My recent post re BBM manuals has left me with a bit of a
dilemma; I've got several more boxes of various manuals etc.
to dispose of and I'm not sure what's the best way.
On the one hand, it benefits everyone to have them in Al's
hands, who has the means, time and willingness (thanks, Al)
to make them available to us all.
On the other hand, anyone who actually owns the relevant
equipment would probably like to have original documentation.
When I put them up on the list, I'm inevitably going to disappoint
someone; should I just offer it privately to Al and rely on him, or?
Comments?
mike
you can do very well copying manuals and such with a
mini digital cam, if its allowed. Id loan you mine if
interested, no problem.
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<dkelvey at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> ---snip---
> >
> > > A Cat is a machine I would also like, but I am
not
> > > going to find one at a
> > > price I can afford...
> >
> > Mine...$20 US. Plus shipping. Hope is not lost...
> >
>
> Hi
> I've been having fun hacking my Cat ( Canon ). It
was intended
> to be only an appliance machine but one can program
with it as well.
> There is a page on the web that says one can just
use the word
> "see" to decompile words but he must have had a disk
that someone
> typed that definition in with.
> I've been slowly hacking how to decompile and I've
made good
> progress. Still, there is so much to dig into. My
main reason is
> to make a printer driver for my HP 3si.
> I was just doing some searches on Jef Raskin and the
Cat and found
> that the Standford Library has manuals on the Forth
in the Cat.
> Too bad I can't just photo copy them. I do plan on
taking a
> day off soon and sit in their viewing room with a
lot of note paper.
> They also have a lot of information from Jef's
records on the Mac
> and Apple in general. Jef was an interesting fellow.
> The Cat is one of my favorite machines.
> Dwight
>
>
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quoted, two or three issues ago, but I have no idea what that's about ....
So naturally I am feeling curious! Would appreciate if someone could look.
Thanks!
- Evan (Koblentz)
Random thought of the day....
I've seen a few CDs around where the manufacturer has deliberately included
errors on the disc to make piracy more difficult - which is a noble enough
thing to do, but a bit of a pain in the butt when you want to make a
legitimate backup copy of a disc :-(
Has anyone come across tools (Linux preferred, but I could stomach Windows if
I had to!) which can duplicate such discs and produce errors in the output at
the same block as the input? (I assume any software on such
deliberately-crippled media would check for the presence of known errors at
install / run time)
cheers
Jules
Doc Shipley <doc at mdrconsult.com> wrote:
> roosmcd at dds.nl wrote:
> > Citeren Doc Shipley <doc at mdrconsult.com>:
> >> I have one. I'd like to find hardware docs for it. SINIX/Reliant
> >> UNIX install media would be heavenly.
> >
> > I still have a RM-200c, should start that up sometime :). But I have
> > two sets of installation media, 5.43 and 5.45 IIRC. Please let me
> > know if you haven't been able to find it otherwise and I'll see what
> > I can do.
>
> So far, you're the only other person I've found that ever heard of
> these things.
> Mine seems to have an intact SINIX install on it, but it looks like I
> need boot media to get root.
> I'd also like to know a couple of other things, like what EISA and
> ISA adapters are supported, how a mouse attaches, since it has a
> single PS/2 port, and if a CD-ROM is supported, what models work. Any
> help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Doc
Manuals for Siemens RM-Series unix based servers (most even available in English) can be found here:
http://manuals.fujitsu-siemens.com/softbooks/unix/us/rmop.htm
Had to dig up that resource mere weeks ago because the university collection received a Siemens RM600 E.
I'm eager to get some hands-on experience but alas that thing is far back on our priority list...
HTH,
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Mothers Day ..... how did I not realize that????
That leaves June 2/3 and 9/10. If we choose 9/10 then we give people a weekend off after Memorial Day.
But would there be more conflicts with graduations (on either of the June weekends) than with the Dayton event?
I know all about the "you can't please everyone all the time" rule but we're still trying.
All:
For those who might not have been aware, Steve Wozniak was in New York
last night for a book signing at a Barnes & Noble. I attended this
signing and I thought I'd provide a book report of sorts for those who
haven't yet been (the last one was in Philadelphia about a month ago).
I arrived not knowing what to expect and there were only about 25 people
in the gallery at 5:30 (the presentation began at 7pm). This event was
competing with the Christmas tree lighting at Rockefeller Center, so I
figured, hey, it shouldn't be too crowded. Yeah, right.
While I was waiting, I grabbed a copy of iWoz and began reading. My
report on the book itself is at the end.
There were about 150 seats and by 7pm, 175 people were there. I'd say
about 80/20 male/female ratio, from a 9 year old girl with a cello
strapped to her back to about 55. Ethnically, it was a pretty diverse
crowd.
Steve arrived on-time and after a short intro, began his speech. I don't
think he stopped to breathe. He spoke constantly for 45 minutes. In
spite of his stated shyness, he was a very gracious and engaging
speaker. You can tell that his mind is running far ahead of his mouth.
Yet, in his speech, you can hear a boyish quality that conveys such
excitement about computers and amazement as how he, as the "other Steve"
with the engineering brains, created the first color personal computer
that could be connected to the TV, and, by his accounts, lit the rocket
on the nascent personal computing industry (I think he actually said
something like "how we started the industry").
I bet that if the guy from Barnes & Noble didn't keep him to a clock, he
would have told stories until closing at 10pm.
I spent only a few minutes with Woz. He signed my Woz book, an original
instruction manual from my Apple II (which he pawed over, not having
seen one in years), and we talked momentarily about my Altair Emulator
project. There were people there who brought old computers for him to
sign (which he did). Most people just had their books signed.
Now, onto the book itself. While I was waiting for the presentation to
start, I began reading around the middle of the book and in an hour and
20 minutes time, read almost 100 pages. The book is an easy read and is
in a conversational style that after hearing Woz speak, one can easily
see how the book was created...he told the stories and Gina Smith, the
co-author, wrote them down, preserving his familiar, conversational
style. This isn't fine literature, and Steve readily admitted that he's
not much of an author. But, if you think of it more as you and Steve
sitting at a bar talking about old times, you will enjoy it.
Since I began in the middle at a random spot, I didn't read about
Steve's early years. He did allude to his childhood in his presentation,
and this is where most people will discover the "I didn't know that."
facts about Woz.
I picked-up the story around the time of Steve creating the Breakout
game for Atari. The back-half of the book is filled with common Woz
stories about Breakout, the 500 machine purchase from The Byte Shop, his
drive for elegance in design (and reduced parts count), and hacking a
Shugart floppy drive to make a very elegant floppy controller system.
There were some brief mentions of fights with Jobs, like over the number
of slots to put in the Apple ][ and the failure of the Apple ///, but
any disagreements with the other Steve were treated gingerly.
I'm sure there are kernels of rare or never-heard Woz stories in there,
but in the pages I read, I didn't really see any.
Rich
>Speaking of 5620s... I've got a bunch of the terminals, but only one
>keyboard for the bunch.
>
I have one terminal missing the red mouse. If anybody has a spare I am
looking for one for sale/trade.
Couldn't find a good picture, the best is on this page obscured by the
hand.
http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/ms/departments/sia/video-library/dyndisp85.html
--- arcarlini at iee.org wrote:
>
> Amstrad produced a 386 PC with a built-in Megadriv
e.
> So that's three.
> Four if you count the keyboard :-)
>
> Antonio
>
They did?! I don't suppose you know of any
pics online somewhere?
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
--- Adrian Burgess <classiccmp at discordance.org.uk>
wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 09:22:02AM -0500, Bryan Po
pe
> wrote:
> >
> > Speaking of game consoles, there are also quite
a
> few arcade boards
> > that use multiple CPUs.
> >
>
> As far as games consoles with multiple CPUs the Se
ga
> Saturn has quite a few -
> 2xHitachi SH2, 1xHitachi SH1 (CD controller),
> 1x68000 (sound controller),
> and a couple of DSPs (no idea how accessible to th
e
> developer these are) -
> this ended up in the arcades as the Sega ST-V boar
d.
>
SH1 was the CD controller? I thought it handled
the sprites?
The SH2's handled the polygon output (250,000
each) of 500,000 polygons per second.
The board was nicknamed the "Titan" board
and was still used well into the late 90's
despite being superceded graphically by all
of Sega's Model 1 & 2 boards (and Model 3
board in 1998/9).
However, due to it's mastery of 2D and 3D
it was used on many arcade games (sorry,
can't name any now, been too long since I
last spoke about this board).
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
Hey everyone,
I've been in touch with someone on the East Coast (of the U.S.) who has about
ten DECstation 3100s, a few DECstation 5000/200s, and some Sun 3/50s and 3/60s
available for the cost of shipping. He just doesn't want them to end up in a
landfill.
I've snagged two DECstation 3100s and two DECstation 5000s, but that's about
all I can do right now. If anyone is interested in any of the remaining stuff,
please contact me off-list and I will forward your contact information to him.
-Seth
I finally got my 11/44 going and in the process of getting it to boot
>from the tu58 port. It does boot from the TA80 drives.
The switch options of coarse are many so I need to know what its trying
to tell me. If I do a " B DD it comes back with "console 177777707 sp
173416" . the Tu58 software does see the machine being turned off or on.
I have check the cabling (lines 2 and 3) and most of the switch positions.
thanks, Jerry
Jerry Wright
JLC inc
Re: "This isn't official yet, but we're aiming for Saturday, May 19 next
year. We might add Sunday, May 20 as well"
Bad dates. You are selecting the same weekend as the Dayton Hamfest. Not a
good move.
supported by what? Curious if it uses the same 6845 as
in the pc version. Not common in the US, but MSX units
are all graphical, and likely better supported
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Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:35:42 -0600
From: Jules Richardson <julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: multiple cpu machines Re: rogues galleries
--------------------Original Message:
<snip>
>Ahh, I was originally asking after systems with different CPUs though, not
>several of the same type - mainly to rule out lots of posts about parallel
>machines (as I was curious as to how many manufacturers managed to make a go
>of selling 'average' systems with a mixture of CPU types - parallel machines
>tend to be in a different league)
---------
Cromemco DPU? Z80 and 68000 on one S-100 card; add an IOP Serial I/O
card, and you've got another Z80...
mike
Citeren Doc Shipley <doc at mdrconsult.com>:
> I have one. I'd like to find hardware docs for it. SINIX/Reliant
> UNIX install media would be heavenly.
I still have a RM-200c, should start that up sometime :). But I have two sets
of installation media, 5.43 and 5.45 IIRC. Please let me know if you haven't
been able to find it otherwise and I'll see what I can do.
greetings,
Michiel