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by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

I am currently fooling about with some HP9000/200 series machines, specifically an HP9816 and an HP9817. The serial ports of these machines are on 50 pin microribbon connectors (like SCSI connectors (!)). They're RS232 levels (1488 anmd 1489 interface chips). I believe the HP98626 RS232 interface card for these machines has the same connector. Needless to say I need to make up adapter cables to DB25 connectors. I assume HP sold said cables at one point, but I can't find the wirelists in any of the obvious manuals on hpmuseum.net (OK, if it's hidden is, say, a printer manual, I'll not have spotted it, but I've read just about every manual for the machines, the interface cards, and the BASIC). I have pinouts for the microribbon connector, so I can work out where most of the wires should go, but there are a few signals that seem to be non-standard (they're driven by I/O port lines inside the machine so what they actually do is software-determined. They're probably not important, but in the interests of compatability I'd like to wire them as HP would have wired them So does anyone have : 1) Wirelists of the original HP cables. I assume there was one going to a DB25-P (male), wires as a DTQ, that would be the most useful to me, but _any_ would be a start 2) The original cables that they can 'buzz out' and produce a wirelist from. 3) A 'spare' cable thet they can sell Thanks in advance for any help -tony

19 years, 1 month

Another IBM 5110 system

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

I just picked-up an IBM 5110 in Las Vegas. It cost me a few hundred, but a nice system (no printer). Unfortunately, I had the leave the giant floppy drive chassis there - too big for the car - I think it weighs around 150 lbs. I will drive out there again in a few weeks (with a bigger vehicle) to bring it back to southern California. Steve. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121

19 years, 1 month

CP-V

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> I see there are source code listings as PDF files there too. > How common is this on bitsavers? If I have code as paper listings, I'll put them under pdf

19 years, 1 month

CP-V

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> I was trying to find a CP-V command set http://bitsavers.org/pdf/sds/sigma/cp-v

19 years, 1 month

Offtopic? ESR's Jargon File

by dm561＠torfree.net

Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:03:28 -0400 From: "Ethan Dicks" <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> Subject: Re: Offtopic? ESR's Jargon File > >> http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/meaning-of-hack.html > > > > Is anyone else seeing broken UTF-8 characters on the Jargon File? I'm > > using Firefox 2.0.0.3 on Ubuntu Feisty. And Firefox 1.5.0.10 (Centos 4.4). So I doubt we are imagining it; the question is, does it look good under _any_ browser? -ethan -------------- FWIW, they look fine in Explorer if I select UTF-8 and local pages stay that way, but any new page reverts to Western ISO. m

19 years, 1 month

Macintosh 128

by marvin＠west.net

Is there any way (besides taking it apart) to find out if my Macintosh 128 is original or if it has been modified/upgraded? It works just fine and has the original Picasso disks and plastic box with it. Thanks!

19 years, 1 month

Wanted: N8202N datasheet

by v.slyngstad＠verizon.net

Hi, I am looking for a datasheet for the N8202N or equivalent. It would have been described in "Digital 8000 series TTL/MSl". It was apparently manufactured by Signetics and equivalents seem to have been available from Motorola and others. I have the pinout for the device. What I'm looking for is whether the clock is edge or level sensitive, which edge or level, and maybe something about setup and hold times, etc. (This is to help design replacements for some hard-to-find old DEC gear.) Thanks! Vince

19 years, 1 month

Floppy disc reader/writer status report

by classiccmp＠memory-alpha.org.uk

Hi, >....But USB has been flaky and an incompatibility nightmare. (The >latter being exactly what hardware makers want, of course, because >it sells *new* hardware.) Amen to that. The biggest problem I've had, outside of (the *VAST* majority of) USB drivers which were so buggy as to cause my machine to BSOD as soon as I tried to use the device, is that every time you change/upgrade your OS you need to wait for the hardware manufacturer to release updated drivers....in most cases I've seen these "updated" drivers provide just the bare minimum of functionality in order to "persuade" you to buy a newer device. HP are a prime example, the 64-bit drivers for my printer/scanner/copier only allow the use of the unit as a printer....and a monochrome, text only one at that! :-( > And, quite aside from that, SCSI is far more backwards-compatible.... >....SCSI goes back to the '80s - and, what's more, it's *compatible* all >the way back to the '80s.... Quite. The only compatibility problems I've ever had with SCSI were caused by a couple of 5.25" full height hard drives which refuse to work if *ANYTHING* else is connected to the SCSI bus at the same time (one is a Siemens drive, the other a Fujitsu - I still have them, LOL). Other than that I've always found SCSI to be quite wonderful.... :-) TTFN - Pete.

19 years, 1 month

DEC Pro380 disk drives

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: DEC Pro380 disk drives > From: Pete Turnbull <pete at dunnington.plus.com> > Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 17:56:02 +0100 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > >On 08/05/2007 15:53, Roger Ivie wrote: >> On Mon, 7 May 2007, Curtis H. Wilbar Jr. wrote: >>> Can the drives be formatted on a VAXstation 2000 and moved to a PRO ? >>> (like you can do from a VS2000 to a PDP-11 (with RQDX3 ?)) >> >> I doubt it. >> >> Folks have been talking about formatting on an RQDX1. The RQDX1 uses a >> different format than that used by the RQDX2 and the VS2000. You can't >> format a disk on an RQDX1 and use it in an RQDX2. >> >> The RQDX2 was built around a single-chip disk controller, SMC's HDC9224. >> The same controller was used in the VS2000. The RQDX1 had a hand-crafted >> disk controller that used a slightly different format. Among other >> things, an RQDX1 can stuff 18 sectors on a track whereas the RQDX2, >> VS2000, and PCs for that matter can only do 17. > >That's incorrect; I suspect you're thinking of the RQDX3. The RQDX2 is >just a modified RQDX1, and it definitely uses the same controller. They >both put 18 sectors per track, and use the same format. You can take a >disk formatted on an RQDX1 and connect it to an RQDX2, though in some >cases the RQDX2 will alter some values on the disk and then it won't be >recognised properly if you move it back to the RQDX1 (depending on the >level of firmware on the two controllers). > >The RQDX3 definitely *is* different, and you have to reformat hard >drives for that (and AFAIR *that's* the same format as VS2000). Pete You have it correct 100%. The RQDX1/2 are the same board and mostly interchageable depending on firmware rev. It's a Quad width board. RQDX3 is a smaller board (dual VS quad) and is fully compatable format wise with VS2000. Allison >-- > >Pete Peter Turnbull > Network Manager > University of York

19 years, 1 month

Info sought

by quapla＠xs4all.nl

Hey all, Anybody familiar with a person called Don Crowther (Maynard, Mass.) His ebay handle is 'doncrow'. I bought an item from him and up to know he did not respond to 2 inquiries for follow up. Thanks, Ed

19 years, 1 month

Old version of Excel for the Mac needed

by rcini＠optonline.net

All: I?m trying to convert some old Mac Excel files I found from college which I think are Excel version 1 files. I have Office 4 for the Mac that I run in Basilisk (under System 7.5.3), but it can?t open the files I have. So, I fired up Mini vMac Plus (with System 7) and tried to run Excel but I get error ?605 which I think is ?memory full? (or insufficient memory). The Mini vMac Plus configuration has 4mb of RAM (with about 3mb free), which should be enough, but I guess not. So, I was wondering if someone has a copy of a slightly later version of Excel (later than 1.0 but before 4.5.2) that can run on a IIci (in Basilisk) that one would be willing to make a DSK/HFV image of? Alternatively, if someone had a copy of the ROM for the Mac SE, I could try that version of Mini vMac. Thanks in advance. Rich -- Rich Cini Collector of Classic Computers Build Master and lead engineer, Altair32 Emulator http://www.altair32.com http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp

19 years, 1 month

Info sought

by fsmith＠ladylinux.com

On Wednesday 09 May 2007 05:14:11 pm cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: --- Ed Groenenberg <quapla at xs4all.nl> wrote: > Hey all, > > Anybody familiar with a person called Don Crowther (Maynard, Mass.) > His ebay handle is 'doncrow'. > > I bought an item from him and up to know he did not respond to > 2 inquiries for follow up. > > Thanks, > > Ed I bought a few things from him also recently. No issues at all. -- Kindest Regards, Francesca Smith "No Problems Only Solutions" Lady Linux Internet Services Baltimore, Maryland 21217

19 years, 1 month

Freecycle stash of Apples found.

by us21090＠yahoo.com

Lots of good suggestions-- Thank you. And many are correct- what to keep depends on what I wish to do with 'em. Sounds like a familiar topic here! I leaning toward a rarer representative/useful machine- A packed II, I guess. I need to determine which cards will work in it and then what maxing it out means in a practical sense. That is, understanding the associated limitations (memory, speed, languages, etc.) I like the idea of a serial card (as a hope to interface with the current world), SCSI (to save on floppy wear and tear), etc, etc. Thanks again. Scott ----- Original Message ---- From: Scott Austin <us21090 at yahoo.com> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2007 4:58:39 PM Subject: Freecycle stash of Apples found. All, About a month ago I picked a nice stash from a freecycler wishing to clean out. The summary list: Partial Apple II, II+, IIe and lots of h/w accessories and software. The fuller list is at the end of this entry. I'm not a big collector (I have a Obtronix Apple Replica and Kim-1 (another 6502 SBC)). But I thought I'd piece together a nice representative Apple 2 and sell off the rest. I haven't tested anything yet. Question 1: Which to keep: II, II+, or IIe? I need to review Apple system hardware history, but I'd figure the IIe has the most capability, but the II is more significant. Question 2: Which accessories are significant to keep (you know, but hate to say it: "VERY R at RE!!!")? Some things may be rare, but I doubt I'd use them. For example, the Switch-A-Slot (see http://tinyurl.com/2m8b3e ) Thanks for any helpful suggestions! Scott Fuller lengthier list (my notes are shoddy in places) ***Systems*** Apple II MN/SN: A2A0016/A2S1-61847 * Manufacture Date (corner of mobo): 7928 * Missing Power supply * Missing Cover (aaargh!!) Apple II+ MN/SN: A2S1016/A2S2-102594 * Ram Card (CSE/KS??) * Disk ][ Interface card * Apple IIe MN/SN: A2S2064/A2S2-D45-055F * Disk ][ Interface card * Mouse interface * Mockingboard * Parallel Card - Precision S/W * RAM Works II ***Other Hardware*** Apple Disk ][ A2M0003 (Qty 3 older style, Qty 1 newer) Transware Accelerator Joystick Koala Pad Numeric Keypad IIe A2M2003 Synch Printer Interface card IRQ Manager - Berkeley Softworks Switch-A-Slot - South Calif. Research Group IEEE-488 Card MPC Peripherals AP-S10 SUP'RMOD VHF Converter Interactive Structres A/D Modem - Applied Engineering Datalink Floppy Drive Controller for IIe 3.5" Drive Disk ][ Interface Card CMS SCSI II Apple Super Serial Card II Apple IIe 80 Col/64K Memory Expansion Sequential Systems Ram80 Silentype Printer A2M0032 Hardrive in enclosure (I didn't open to get model, size) Apple Monitor (I didn't note the model) Commodore Monitor (I didn't note the model) ***Software*** Copy II Plus DOS 3.3 Basics, System Manual MousePaint ProDOS Start Smith's Adventure Construction Set Apple Fortran Apple Pascal GEOS - includes GEOFile, GEOCalc,... Merlin Pro Macro Assembler IIe, IIc No Slot Clock more (if I remember correctly) ***Software on Cassette*** Mastermind Apple Lis'ner, Apple talker RamTest Forte' Music Dynacomp - Poker Party, Teacher's Pet, Games Pack Renumber/Append, Alignment Test Tone MicroUsers Software Exchange (Baltimore) - UDraw, Music Box Apple - Phone List, Brian's Theme Apple - Hopalong Cassidy, Lemonade Apple - Penny Arcade, Finance 1 Speakeasy Bulls & Bears Avalon MicroComp Game - Computer Baseball Strategy ***Books*** A Guide to Programming in AppleSoft (2nd Ed) Apple II Basic Manual, Ref Manual DOS Manual (DOS3.3, I think) SuperSerial Card AppleSoft Basic Programming Reference Manual Apple Machine Language (Don and Kurt Inman) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

19 years, 1 month

Olibetti jacketless floppies...

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Rather an odd find today, tucked away in a box of printer paper: A pair of "Olivetti Minidisks". The flexible disks are around 2" in diameter, but curiously have no jacket whatsoever - just a cardboard sleeve to protect them when not in use. I've never come across these before; any idea what system(s) they're for? Were they something cheap and cheerful for some sort of word processor machine? cheers Jules

19 years, 1 month

PDP-11 Software (Was: Mentec)

by dm561＠torfree.net

Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 16:32:32 +0200 From: Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> Subject: Re: PDP-11 Software (Was: Mentec) >As for Jay West and Jerome Fine's claims that it's all right just because Mentec haven't set any lawyers on their backs must stand for them. Eh? Funny, I don't recall either of them making those claims; in fact I thought they were pretty well saying the opposite, that it's not just simply "all right", and that this whole discussion was about how to get the issue resolved and do it legitimately. Maybe I need new glasses... -------------- >If Jay West happens to ...have proof that people here are running their software without a license, ... then I think it would be a good thing for him to actually say so... Eh again? He said that too? So you're suggesting what? _If_ there are such people and he has "proof" he should broadcast this over the Internet, right alongside the child molester sites? ------------- >I do notice that noone have yet publicly admitted to violating Mentecs IP rights Does this mean that you have proof that some people are? And if so, that they should shout it out over the Internet? Or what _do_ you mean, exactly? ------------ >No point in arguing. Agreed, but this is CCtalk after all... ;-) m

19 years, 1 month

imac g3 power supply replacement enquiry from belfast

by nicholas.ward＠cs.tcd.ie

Hi Brad, I came across a post you had regarding running an imac with a 24VAC powersupply. I was wondering if you had any success with this? Im in a similar situation and would rather not dump the working DCB if i can supply what it requires. Many thanks for any info you might have, All the best Nicky

19 years, 1 month

PDP-11 Software (Was: Mentec)

by bqt＠softjar.se

To answer a few details in short. PDP-11 licenses (alteast RSX, and I believe all of them) are bound to a specific customer. So they don't transfer along with the hardware. However, DEC did have a license transfer program. It wasn't expensive, and I used it at my end back when DEC still existed. I think it was still possible to transfer licenses after Mentec bought the software and DEC still sold it. What the exact status of this is right now, I don't know. Haven't asked. As for Jay West and Jerome Fine's claims that it's all right just because Mentec haven't set any lawyers on their backs must stand for them. I don't think it's okay, and furthermore, I don't think their claims that it's OK because they think that Mentec knows a lot of things will hold much water if it went to court. But that's just my thoughts. And yes, I do speak with Mentec on business matters from time to time, so I'm not totally unaware of what they do. If Jay West happens to know for a fact that Mentec is aware of the discussions here, and furthermore, have proof that people here are running their software without a license, and choose to not do anything about it, then I think it would be a good thing for him to actually say so, since it actually would strengthen his case against Mentec, if it ever came to that. By playing the "it's not something we're willing to discuss in public" is just idle talk, since it's in fact more supporting of what I'm saying than what he is. But I'll leave it here. No point in arguing. Everyone have to decide for them self. I do notice that noone have yet publicly admitted to violating Mentecs IP rights. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

19 years, 1 month

Classic Computers and LCD TV's

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: Classic Computers and LCD TV's > From: "dwight elvey" <dkelvey at hotmail.com> > Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 07:57:48 -0700 > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > > > > >>From: Allison <ajp166 at bellatlantic.net> >> >> > >> >Subject: Classic Computers and LCD TV's >> > From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com> >> > Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 17:35:01 -0700 (PDT) >> > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org >> > >> >Does anyone have any experience plugging something like a C-64 into >> >something like this? >> > >> >http://www.cobyusa.com/_en/prod_item.php?item=TFTV561&pcat=tv&pscat=port_tv… >> > >> >I've got a chance to get one, and really the only reason I can see would >>be >> >to hook a classic computer up to it. If I replaced my Commodore 2002 >> >monitor with one of these I'd have room to keep my C64 setup. :^) >> > >> >Zane >> >>I forgot to add I've been on the hunt for a monochrome or color (not >>needed) >>for use instead of the rather old 9" Panasonic I monitor I use. I'm more >>interested in monitor (no tuner) and 12V operation. >> >Hi Allison >It seems like I saw someone else mention the monitors used in head >rest for cars. These mostly use S video or similar signals. >A few months back, I bought two screens, DVD player, two headphones, >video distribution amp, FM to radio and FM to headsets for a little over >$300. >This was on ebay. >Dwight > I'm thinking more like RS170 video and 30-50$.. The rest of that I don't need. ;) Seems anying that installs in the back of the headrest in my Toyota Pickup would be more amusing to the car following me (2 seater cab). My goal is to make some of my CMOS based systems more portable. As their power is low and at least two do video out but even a 12V monitor eats most of the current needed (around 1 amp) making battery operation difficult. Allison

19 years, 1 month

Classic Computers and LCD TV's

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Classic Computers and LCD TV's > From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com> > Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 17:35:01 -0700 (PDT) > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > >Does anyone have any experience plugging something like a C-64 into >something like this? > >http://www.cobyusa.com/_en/prod_item.php?item=TFTV561&pcat=tv&pscat=port_tv… > >I've got a chance to get one, and really the only reason I can see would be >to hook a classic computer up to it. If I replaced my Commodore 2002 >monitor with one of these I'd have room to keep my C64 setup. :^) > >Zane I forgot to add I've been on the hunt for a monochrome or color (not needed) for use instead of the rather old 9" Panasonic I monitor I use. I'm more interested in monitor (no tuner) and 12V operation. Allison

19 years, 1 month

DEC & HP available - a trip to an infrequented collecting spot in

by carol＠compurex.com

Hi- I am looking to purchase older DEC computer hardware. Is this something you have available for sale? Appreciate it. Carol Carol Audlee Director of Business Development Compurex Systems 35 Eastman St. S. Easton, MA 02375 508.230.3700 x250 800.426.5499 x250 508.238.8250 fax www.compurex.com AOL IM: CompurexCarol Independent reseller of Cisco/Compaq/DEC/HP/Nortel/Sun computer systems and peripherals since 1987. This message may contain information that is confidential and or protected by law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are herby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the message. Please note that although we will take all commercially reasonable efforts to prevent viruses from being transmitted from our systems, it is the responsibility of the recipient to check for and prevent adverse action by viruses on its own systems.

19 years, 1 month

FPGA CPU's (was: Re: wonderful assembly language book)

by dkelvey＠hotmail.com

>From: "Dave Caroline" <dave.thearchivist at gmail.com> > >FPGA designs > >Which reminds me back in 1987 or so I bought a NX4 single board >computer that ran Forth was that a FPGA design? it had a Mostek >MKGD02TG as far as I can make out from the picture. It failed some >years ago when I last had a play with it. > >Dave Caroline > >pic at www.archivist.info/computers/nx4.jpg Hi There were several Forth implementations during that time. After the NC4000 was created, many realized how easy it was to create a Forth processor with the newer technology in ASIC or programmable arrays. I wonder what has failed on your board. If it isn't the chip, the rest of the board is relatively standard parts. These Forth board were often used as accelerators for PC systems. Several test that showed that these simple processors could run application more than 10 times faster than similar clocked x86 or 68K machines of the time. The RTX2000's were made RAD hardened and used quite a bit in satellites. Much of the speed was because Forth lends it self to a 3 bus architectures that functionally used at least two of these buss on each instruction. Dwight _________________________________________________________________ Catch suspicious messages before you open them?with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migrati…

19 years, 1 month

Mentec

by bqt＠softjar.se

"Jay West" <jwest at classiccmp.org> skrev: Johnny wrote... > > Jerome makes some interesting, if strange and faulty assumptions. > > Such as assuming that since Mentec hasn't complained although people > > "appear" to have been using and posting about RT-11 on classiccmp list > > for a long time. ...and... > > So I would somewhat ignore Jeromes view on the legality of things. > No, actually, Jerome's points are valid and his views are worth far more > than an admonishment to ignore them. I don't agree in this case. While I usually don't bother, since he's mostly into RT-11, which I haven't used, we're in rather separate worlds. But his assumptions about Mentec are just assumptions. > I should point out something that you dont seem to be aware of (at least > based on your statement above) - a demonstrable pattern of non-enforcement > of license does in fact weaken the ability to enforce it. That is why often > a company will act to notify, issue a cease & desist, etc. an infringing > entity about an infraction of license that they actually in fact don't > really care about - because it can then be argued that they didn't enforce > it in case xyz, so how can they selectively enforce it in another instance. Yes, but this is all based on the assumption that the company is aware. Otherwise it's not a point at all. So you should then first of all demostrate that the company *is* aware, and haven't bother taking action. I haven't seen that proven yet, and I'm pretty sure you haven't either... For the company to be aware two criteria must be fulfilled: 1) Mentec must know of this list, and monitor it. 2) People on this list must in no unclear terms make it clear that they are breaking the license agreements or violating Mentecs rights. And as I said before, I haven't seen either of these two proven yet. But to make it easier for Mentec (in case they are looking), how about a head count. Anyone who is using Mentec software without having a correct license: let us all know. Make a public reply to this. That will atleast fulfill one of the two requirements (if anyone will reply to this call out.) > This is also one of several reasons that some - not all - companies are wary > of creating a hobbyist license, because there is some amount of perception > that it will put their ability to enforce a license at peril - or at the > least possibly cloud the issue. Yes. That is true. > On a separate and unrelated point, I believe Johnny (or someone) questioned > whether Mentec is aware of this list, various archives, etc. I can assure > you that they are, just as Jerome intoned. Really? And how do you know this? Just because one ex-Mentec employee occasionally post here, do you think that Mentec knows about it? For all that I wish that a hobbyist program was available, none exist at the moment, and actions and false beliefs like this is likely going to keep preventing it from ever happening... Call me Mr. Negative if you like. I just try to point out things as I see them. You may all disagree. Can't help that. Atleast I got valid licenses. And you can have that too, if you pay for it. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

19 years, 1 month

FPGA CPU's (was: Re: wonderful assembly language book)

by dave.thearchivist＠gmail.com

FPGA designs Which reminds me back in 1987 or so I bought a NX4 single board computer that ran Forth was that a FPGA design? it had a Mostek MKGD02TG as far as I can make out from the picture. It failed some years ago when I last had a play with it. Dave Caroline pic at www.archivist.info/computers/nx4.jpg

19 years, 1 month

WANTED: Mac SE/30

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

Does anyone here have a Mac SE/30 in good working order? I'd prefer one with little to no yellowing, keyboard, mouse, a good crt, and good floppy. Hard drive is unimportant as I have plenty of suitable SCSI drives. Extra memory would be nice too. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

19 years, 1 month

value of IBM 5110?

by wayne.smith＠charter.net

> -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Smith [mailto:wayne.smith at charter.net] > Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 10:00 PM > To: 'cctalk at classiccmp.org' > Subject: Re: value of IBM 5110? > > > This system isn't in Europe, and as much as everyone would > like to believe that old iron should be virtually free, the > reality is that it isn't - at least not on this side of the > pond. The 5110 unit alone will sell for at least $500 if > posted on Ebay - some have gone for much more. If it is an > APL/BASIC unit - something that isn't apparent from the > listing - it will go for over $1000. Well, from the listing it probably is a BASIC only unit, but $600 is still a good price.

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