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by rcini＠optonline.net

All: I?m trying to build this 32-bit debugger program (using MASM on MSDOS 6) and it doesn?t build anything past the first obj file. I?ve spent a while playing around with this and I can?t readily see what?s wrong ? probably my unfamiliarity with manual MAK files. Can someone take a quick look at this and let me know what?s wrong? Thanks! #make file for the debugger OBJ1=dbisr.obj dbinit.obj dbvid.obj dbcmd.obj dbedit.obj dbdbreg.obj dbmain.obj dbsupt.obj dbint9.obj AINC=dbequ.inc dbstruc.inc dbdat.inc dbpdat.inc dbmac.inc .asm.obj: masm $*; # ASM Sources dbisr.obj: $*.asm $(AINC) dbinit.obj: $*.asm $(AINC) dbvid.obj: $*.asm $(AINC) dbcmd.obj: $*.asm $(AINC) dbedit.obj: $*.asm $(AINC) dbdbreg.obj: $*.asm $(AINC) dbmain.obj: $*.asm $(AINC) dbsupt.obj: $*.asm $(AINC) dbint9.obj: $*.asm $(AINC) # Executable db.exe: $(OBJ1) link @db.lnk Rich -- Rich Cini Collector of Classic Computers Build Master and lead engineer, Altair32 Emulator http://www.altair32.com http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp

19 years, 1 month

Now I need some OS/8 experts...

by bqt＠softjar.se

Charles <charlesmorris at hughes.net> skrev: > Now that OS/8 is running on my 8/A, RL02 system, I find I'm in > need of some more detailed help. Although I'm wading through the > 900+ pages of the "OS/8 Handbook" (and the Device Extensions > document which at least addresses RL01's), I'm having a problem > adding device handlers as follows. > > When I built the OS/8 image, it looks like I added only one RL02 > partition (here is the current BUILD printout): > >> sim> bo rl >> >> .SET SYS NOINIT >> >> .RUN SYS BUILD >> >> $PR >> >> BAT : *BAT >> KL8E: *TTY >> LPSV: *LPT >> RK05: *RKA0 *RKB0 *RKA1 *RKB1 RKA2 RKB2 RKA3 RKB3 >> RX02: *RXA0 *RXA1 >> TD8A: *DTA0 *DTA1 >> R2SY: *SYS *R20A >> >> DSK=R2SY:R20A >> $ > > Doing a DIR shows "118 Files in 2517 Blocks - 1515 Free Blocks", > or ~4000 total blocks on the disk, which is also consistent with > one RL02 partition (A=40%,B=40%,C=20%) of the total 10000 free > blocks. > > The RKB0: Diagnostic Pack has several handlers including: > RL2SY.BH (which is what I am using), and also RL20.BH, RL21.BH, > and RL2E.BH (not sure what that one is). > > But any attempt to LOAD RKB0:RL20.BH (for example) causes SIMH to > stop with a "HALT instruction, PC: 20100 (ISZ 122)" message. I > tried removing R2SY: entirely (after setting SYS to RKA0:) and > still it won't work when trying to install other RL handlers. > > Also when reloading it will only allow n=1 (platter) which I > suppose is correct. This may be why I only have one partition. I > did this over a year ago and don't remember all the details. > ANY ideas how to install the next partitions (R20B and C)? > > Also, since I am planning on adding a second RL02 drive, I will > need (I think) R21A, B, C to appear in the active list. Is it even > possible to add a second RL02 under OS/8? > > The C partitions aren't really necessary and are slow. I doubt I > will ever get close to filling up even the A and B's (8 Mb per > pack).... They way you talk about this makes it sound like you're thinking of RL01 drives here. Are you aware of the fact that the RL02 will appear as five drives to OS/8? RLnA to RLnE? Apart from that, I can't help you at the moment. My PDP8 systems are all offline, and have been for a couple of years now. Although I have a real 8/A with RL02 drives, which do work. Too long for my memory to be fresh on this one. Build have always been a bit magical... :-) Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

19 years, 1 month

hey, a digest reader has an eBay feedback comment!

by classiccmp＠memory-alpha.org.uk

Hi, > On the buying side, I also have a good suggestion - so much of the >buying on eBay these days is facilitated through PayPal (50 % or >better?). As a result, eBay knows when a seller has been paid. So >why not give automatic positive feedback. I mean, what really would >a seller have to say after the buyer pays? I can tell you what a seller might have to say.... I had a case of a US buyer paying immediately for an auction he'd won, but the postage specified was for UK delivery and there was a clear instruction for international buyers to contact me prior to sending payment for postage costs. Needless to say, he refused to pay the extra few pounds for postage. But instead of emailing me to arrange to back out of the deal so I could offer it to the next bidder, he contacts eBay and PayPal and has PayPal freeze my account because I'd allegedly ripped HIM off and didn't have the item I'd auctioned! I got the last laugh though. To get PayPal to reinstate my account I had to provide them with a tracking number for the parcel....the amount I'd charged for postage just barely covered surface mail to his location, which would take 12 weeks to get there....!!!! LMAO! Outside of a couple of non-paying bidders, that was the only time I've been forced to leave negative feedback. But unfortunately, there are some real aholes out there. :-( TTFN - Pete.

19 years, 1 month

1000+ old computer in Canada, for sale

by g-wright＠att.net

Just north of the border. 3+ hours from Seattle with good traffic and border lines. Just loading that much stuff would be a major under taking. I did talk to a local scraper here in Seattle but so far, He is not interested. I also have a complete Canon AS-100 that works. - Jerry -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> > > > > > Are there any listers in Seattle that'd be > > willing to take a drive up > > > > to the warehouse and give us a better look-see > > at the contents? > > How close is this place to Seattle? (<<too lazy to > map it). Transportation is one thing - where are > *y'all* gonna bloody well store all the stuff? He > really should allow people to come in and cherry pick > what they want, he'd make more money that way > undoubtedly. And what's a 1000+ lot of that old stuff > worth anyway? As a bulk deal a few grand... > BUT...if anyone finds a Canon AS-100 in the_pile, > consider it claimed :). My up and coming baby is going > to need some company before too long ;). Man it's been > too long a wait, but the day is approaching... > Oh by the way I could be in Seattle in 5-7 weeks... > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > ____ > Don't pick lemons. > See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. > http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html

19 years, 1 month

Real DEC Keyboard (Was: C.Itoh keyboard repair)

by jzg22＠drexel.edu

Mark Wickens wrote: > Jonathan, > > This is what an LK201 supplied with VT220 terminals looks like on the inside: > > http://www.wickensonline.co.uk/public-gallery/LK201 > > Each key has a 'leafspring' mechanism. Not what I was expecting anyway... > > Mark. > Looking at those pictures, it seems the CIT-220+ keyboard is not all that dissimilar in electrical design from the DEC one. It uses the same kind of leaf switches but mounted in a completely different way, and the leaves themselves don't act as electrical contacts on the CIT one, just as secondary springs to push the thin contact plates. If I remember correctly, the CIT keys look sort of like this if chopped in half down the middle: II-||-II ICLKK I ICLKK I _CLSS _ |C LS | -------- D where C is the contact plate assembly S is the main spring K is the bottom of the key plunger L is the leaf spring _ is the place where the key plastic comes into two halves I is the tab which holds the bottom half onto the top half - is the bottom of the key D is the solder tabs for the contact plate | are the walls of the bottom part of the key The leaf springs look like this if zoomed in, if I remember right: side: | | < \ \ front: _______ |_ _| | | | | |_._| / _ \ |_/ \_| I also worked out the complete key matrix for the CIT keyboard at one point, I'll see if I can find it. Jonathan Gevaryahu jzg22 at drexel.edu

19 years, 1 month

Now I need some OS/8 experts...

by charlesmorris＠hughes.net

Now that OS/8 is running on my 8/A, RL02 system, I find I'm in need of some more detailed help. Although I'm wading through the 900+ pages of the "OS/8 Handbook" (and the Device Extensions document which at least addresses RL01's), I'm having a problem adding device handlers as follows. When I built the OS/8 image, it looks like I added only one RL02 partition (here is the current BUILD printout): >sim> bo rl > >.SET SYS NOINIT > >.RUN SYS BUILD > >$PR > >BAT : *BAT >KL8E: *TTY >LPSV: *LPT >RK05: *RKA0 *RKB0 *RKA1 *RKB1 RKA2 RKB2 RKA3 RKB3 >RX02: *RXA0 *RXA1 >TD8A: *DTA0 *DTA1 >R2SY: *SYS *R20A > >DSK=R2SY:R20A >$ Doing a DIR shows "118 Files in 2517 Blocks - 1515 Free Blocks", or ~4000 total blocks on the disk, which is also consistent with one RL02 partition (A=40%,B=40%,C=20%) of the total 10000 free blocks. The RKB0: Diagnostic Pack has several handlers including: RL2SY.BH (which is what I am using), and also RL20.BH, RL21.BH, and RL2E.BH (not sure what that one is). But any attempt to LOAD RKB0:RL20.BH (for example) causes SIMH to stop with a "HALT instruction, PC: 20100 (ISZ 122)" message. I tried removing R2SY: entirely (after setting SYS to RKA0:) and still it won't work when trying to install other RL handlers. Also when reloading it will only allow n=1 (platter) which I suppose is correct. This may be why I only have one partition. I did this over a year ago and don't remember all the details. ANY ideas how to install the next partitions (R20B and C)? Also, since I am planning on adding a second RL02 drive, I will need (I think) R21A, B, C to appear in the active list. Is it even possible to add a second RL02 under OS/8? The C partitions aren't really necessary and are slow. I doubt I will ever get close to filling up even the A and B's (8 Mb per pack).... Thanks for any help. -Charles

19 years, 1 month

Dolch Ruggedized laptop Power Plug?

by shumaker＠att.net

Have you looked at something like Digikey.com? They list a bunch of pigtailed power connectors with ID and ODs specified. largest seems to be 2.5mm ID and 5.5mm OD. Page 409 of the online Digikey catalog. s shumaker you wrote: >On 5/24/07, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon at gjcp.net> wrote: >>On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 09:22 -0400, Ethan Dicks wrote: >> > On 5/24/07, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon at gjcp.net> wrote: >> > > Maplin do these, but they're just described as "Power Connector". Is it >> > > the same size as the ones used on Toshiba laptops? >> > >> > I think it's larger than that. I have what I thought was a large-bore >> > power connector, but it doesn't come close to fitting. I'm just >> >>The centre pin on Toshiba laptop power connectors is about 3mm, way >>bigger than the normal "fat" power connectors. The outside is the same. > >Hmm... I could believe it's a full 3mm. I'll do some digging on that. >If Toshiba's have a 19V 3A brick, that'd probably do the trick. >Targus sells various laptop adapter kits, but they cost more than the >laptop (as do just Dolch drive bays, but fortunately, mine has one). > >Thanks, > >-ethan

19 years, 1 month

hey, a digest reader has an eBay feedback comment!

by mkath＠charter.net

I'm compelled to comment on the eBay topic. First, I have to say that while it isn't bits and bytes, it is relevant to the group. A lot of collectors of classic gear actually get that gear from eBay. Every one of my 20 or so classic systems came from eBay... Anyway, I recently bought an item and received this in a form e-mail >from the seller: 3)Am I going to receive a feedback from you since I paid immediately. Due to overwhelming feedback request(we are all feedback junkies), I set my system to Automatically leave POSITIVE feedback to buyer when the following TWO conditions are met: i) item is paid. AND ii) Buyer left me a positive feedback. Of course, I was steamed about this. It's just not in the spirit of how eBay is supposed to work. I actually went to eBay to try to find a policy about this, stumbled into the discussion forums and quickly realized that eBay, like Chuck said, has all the integrity of "open-air bazaar in Marrakesh". Tony's suggestion of keeping feedback private until both parties submit feedback seems like a workable idea. On the buying side, I also have a good suggestion - so much of the buying on eBay these days is facilitated through PayPal (50 % or better?). As a result, eBay knows when a seller has been paid. So why not give automatic positive feedback. I mean, what really would a seller have to say after the buyer pays? It's amazing that in their recent revamp of the feedback system, what they delivered is the best they could do. -Matt

19 years, 1 month

new ebay feedback

by legalize＠xmission.com

They now let you grade description, email responsiveness of seller, etc. Hopefully this will improve the feedback score to a more meaningful metric, but it will probably take a while to accumulate. Particularly since the fine-grained feedback is optional. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

19 years, 1 month

VTserver : update

by charlesmorris＠hughes.net

I have found, by scoping the data lines in and out of the laptop, that the endless loop on the laptop is only an internal display glitch - i.e. even though when I type characters they echo endlessly on the screen until another key is pressed, only the one (correct) character is sent to the PDP-11 at each keypress. Similarly, when ODT sends a single "@", continuous "@@@@@@@..." echoes on the display. Who knows why. It's annoying but apparently does not affect the functioning of VTserver. Then there was some more learning to interpret the cryptic messages for input and output devices. Although I thought the program was supposed to send my OS/8 image automatically from the "virtual tape" (and its name is in the .vtrc file with 0 = copy bootstrap, 1 = image file), I eventually learned that entering "vt(1,0,0)" (or maybe it was "0,0,1") would accept the OS/8 image file for input. Not sure if my output device command is correct though. I'm trying to write to my second RL02 drive (RL1: on the PDP-11/23+ with a "1" key) and the only output device string that would work is rl(0,1,0). The program does not explain the significance of the (n,n,n) fields, although it does prompt for a string in that format. It did display a confirmation each 100Kb, and did write the entire 2.5 Mb file to the RL drive! Although it's anyone's guess as to whether I did this correctly. When I put the pack in the RL02 attached to my 8/A and press Load, the "Ready" light does not come on, which I believe means the heads have not locked on the servo track. Which is strange because even if I wrote to the wrong places on the disk, it still should be able to sync up. AFAIK it is not possible to overwrite the servo tracks by writing blocks to the disk through a controller card? Or maybe the light is burnt out... or the pack I used is bad... Please also explain to me the limitation for the size of each partition under OS/8 again? 2500 Kb is less than 2 Mw at 12 bits per word? thanks -Charles On Thu, 24 May 2007 08:15:14 -0700, you wrote: >On 5/24/07, Charles <charlesmorris at hughes.net> wrote: >> yep, Win XP Pro. >> I don't want to go backwards to 98 though :) >> Anything else you could recommend? >> >> -Charles >> > >I wouldn't want to install Windows 98 on a system I was currently >using either. I just happened to have an old Windows 98 system around >that I could use. > >I didn't spend any time trying to figure out what the problem might be >on Windows XP. That would probably be a good thing to do if it might >help other people in the future. I had the VTServer source code and >could try working on it. Maybe I can find some time this weekend to >take a look again. > >-Glen

19 years, 1 month

O YEAH! What a deal!!!

by jba＠sdf.lonestar.org

While $89.93 is quite an oddball price, I wouldn't say its outrageous. This graphics card is for sale in an eBay store, not on an auction, so it will just site there until someone buys it. Its conceivable that there is a Rainbow or two left somewhere in some forgotten industrial application where replacement is not an option without some extreme costs related to it. I've seen Rainbow parts on sale for much higher, mostly from DEC resellers. I still use a Rainbow, and there was a time when my stock of parts was much lower that I may have considered purchasing this card at this price. You have to remember that there is some cost to maintaining a stock of obscure parts that probably only a handful of people in the world would even ever consider purchasing. If he sells it for that price, though, then I think i'll consider getting into the used Rainbow parts business ;-). Jeff Armstrong jba at sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org

19 years, 1 month

CiTOH terminals (was Re: Well, now I've gone and done it... Dragged home more big(ish) iron...)

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

On 5/22/07, Mr Ian Primus <ian_primus at yahoo.com> wrote: > > > The 101 is the model shaped and colored much like a > > VT100. The keyboard looks similar... but > > its protocol is _not_ compatible with the VT100. > > Good thing I didn't buy the one on eBay a couple > months ago. There was a 101 there, and cheap too, but > it had no keyboard. I may haev a few CiTOH terminals to drag to VCFmw if there's any interest. Closer to the event, I'll inventory what I have and see if I kept any spare keyboards "just in case", if anyone out there already has a terminal, but can't figure out why their VT100 keyboard doesn't work with it. I remember back in the day, since we had dozens of CiTOH and DEC terminals, looking over the available schematics for both and not being able to figure out how the keyboard works. I think it was a matter of inadequate/fuzzy docs more than anything else. Does anyone know of a good printset to pore over to see the nuts-and-bolts of a VT100-era keyboard? ISTR the crux of it was a 6402-type UART squeezing out the keystrokes at some slow baud rate, but I can't recall any essential details right now. I'm just curious if it's possible to swap a crystal or make a simple, switched change to allow one keyboard to work across both vendor's product lines. We used to have lots of dead keyboard when there was one or two terminals on everyone's desk. Since the company was shrinking at that stage, we never bothered fixing them - we just pulled one off a vacant desk and kept working. The number of working keyboards never shrank below the steadily decreasing size of the staff, so economically, it made sense. I think I only saved working keyboards in that set of 4 van loads, but it's entirely possible I picked up one or two dead ones. Right now, I have to search the pile for a VT100 keyboard to get my DECmate I back up and running so I can press it into service as an RX01/RX02 image archiver and finally whittle down my cartons of floppies. -ethan

19 years, 1 month

Microvax II

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

um, I've had this thing for a while now. It's pretty shabby. The front plastic bezel thing fell off (prolly cause SOMEONE keeps pushing the Honda against it). Other parts and pieces are strewn around the yard. I resisted the urge to send all that crap out for the metal pickup (oh anyone want a rusty 1914 Dalton lathe - only $75 if you pick it up. Real nice babbitt spindle bearings ;). So what to do? Should I actually turn it on? Some board fell out of it not long after I pulled in the driveway 2 winters ago. What's it good for anyway? I hate to just chuck it. At one time these things were going for a G+ on duh bay. Not this puppy though. I'm totally open to suggestions. If anyone has a clean doner (or parts) I could very well be interested. I can't say I have much in the way for a trade though... ____________________________________________________________________________________You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_html.html

19 years, 1 month

O YEAH! What a deal!!!

by jba＠sdf.lonestar.org

--- ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote: > Yes, but most of the 'IBM incompatibles' had 1 bit per pixel, just on/off >monochrome grpahics. The 'Bow had a CLUT and up to 4 bits per pixel I think. The Rainbow could do 4 colors from a pallette of 4096 in hi-res (800x240) and 16 from a pallette of 4096 in low-res (384x240). The fact that the pallette was not fixed was a major selling point with some because, in low-res, properly dithered photographic pictures would look far better than on the fixed-pallete IBM PC modes (CGA, EGA). What's a CLUT, by the way? Not familiar with that acronym... -Jeff Armstrong jba at sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org

19 years, 1 month

Oi which Amstrads were available in the US?

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

Here goes another guessing game. I'm aware of the PC 1512 (8086), but something tells me this is an earlier unit w/o an integrated monitor and such. Could be a 1512 though cuz the dude has "1000 games". ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097

19 years, 1 month

govliq: Would anyone near Norfolk "relay" Rolms to me?

by erik＠baigar.de

Hi there! In Norfolk there are quite often Rolms 1666B for auction, which can readily be exported to Germany since they do not require demil. Is there any vintage compunter freak out there who would pick up such a lot and send them to me? A commercial carrier charges wants $750 to $1200 for this task. I am not willing to pay that much money since this is only a hobby for me. Maybe one of you is there by occasion??? Does anyone know a cheaper way for shipping of govliq lots? Best regards, Erik.

19 years, 1 month

Dolch Ruggedized laptop Power Plug?

by shumaker＠att.net

ahh sorry... definitely drawing a blank at 4 sources for anything over 2.5. s shumaker At 09:19 AM 5/24/2007, you wrote: >On 5/24/07, Steve Shumaker <shumaker at att.net> wrote: >>Have you looked at something like Digikey.com? >> >>They list a bunch of pigtailed power connectors with ID and ODs >>specified. largest seems to be 2.5mm ID and 5.5mm OD. Page 409 of >>the online Digikey catalog. > >That is assuredly too small. I have plenty of 2.5mm ID plugs. This >is much larger. > >Thanks, > >-ethan

19 years, 1 month

FOG DOS discs

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> Just looking at the directory, and FOGMIS.019.imd Thanks for noticing. I missed one that was unreadable.

19 years, 1 month

TIL308

by Eberhard.Hewicker＠serco.de

do you by chance have some TIL308 left? I would need about 10 ea. 306 or 311 would also do fine. Or do you know a replacemant for those TI-Displays? Thank you mit freundlichem Gru? Eberhard Hewicker Germany dk3he at web.de __________________________________________________________________________________________________

19 years, 1 month

govliq: 2 Rolm UYK-64(V) computers (Norfolk, VA)

by legalize＠xmission.com

<http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=1212774&convertTo=USD> Manual: <http://www.tpub.com/content/computerequipment/TM-11-7021-202-12/> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

19 years, 1 month

Univac 1219 sales brochure on vintagecomputer.net

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

I have made electronic copies of the Univac 1219 Miltary Computer (mid 60's) sales brochure, and posted on my web site vintagecomputer.net. Also included is a short narrative / interview from a system programmer of the era. Not included on my site is what I believe to be the bi-octal program that will type out the 1478 addresses that are loaded by bootstrap, should someone have a working 1219 in their living room and need a copy. -Bill D

19 years, 1 month

MicroVAX I console port pinout

by hoelscher-kirchbrak＠freenet.de

Hi, I'm currently building a MicroVAX I (slowest VAX ever) from parts. I've already got the BA23 box, CPU (2 boards), memory, disk and ethernet controllers. But unfortunately the MicroVAX I console patch panel is missing. Has anyone got a spare one to give away or swap? Or does anyone know the pinout for the console port on the M7135 MicroVAX I DAP module? There are two connectors which look like this: |-----------| | o o o o o | | o o o o | |-----------| The connectors are identical to e.g. those on a DLV11-J serial interface. I guess one is for the console connection and the other one for the baud rate selection. Another interesting question is: What are the two switch blocks on the M7135 DAP module good for? Anyone who knows about that? Any help is very much appreciated! Regards Ulli

19 years, 1 month

PDP-11/84, PMI and Q-bus

by RodSmallwood＠mail.ediconsulting.co.uk

Revise to: KDJ11-BF (M8190-AE) Goes in slot 1 KDJ11-Bx MSV11-JE M8637-EA Slot 2 Slot 2 MSV11-JE M8637-EA Slot 3 Rod -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Pete Turnbull Sent: 23 May 2007 22:58 To: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: PDP-11/84, PMI and Q-bus On 23/05/2007 21:21, Rod Smallwood wrote: > So in order of preference: > KDJ11-BF (M8190-AE) Goes in slot 1 > KDJ11-Bx > > > MSV11-JD Slot 2 > MSV11-JD Slot 3 Oops! I'm sorry, but -JD was a typo on my part. I meant to write MSV11-JE, M8637-EA, which is the higher-capacity version: a pair would give you the full 4MB that a PDP-11 can address. The -JD is half the size. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

19 years, 1 month

govliq: 6 VAX-11/780 power supplies new (Jacksonville, FL)

by legalize＠xmission.com

<http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=1207011&convertTo=USD> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

19 years, 1 month

1 or 2 Tandy 2000's for trade

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

I'm continually thinning this accumulation of mine. Anyone have anything to trade for a Tandy 2000 sans monitor (but all of mine have the color graphics option). ____________________________________________________________________________________Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/

19 years, 1 month

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