All:
I?m trying to build this 32-bit debugger program (using MASM on MSDOS 6)
and it doesn?t build anything past the first obj file. I?ve spent a while
playing around with this and I can?t readily see what?s wrong ? probably my
unfamiliarity with manual MAK files.
Can someone take a quick look at this and let me know what?s wrong?
Thanks!
#make file for the debugger
OBJ1=dbisr.obj dbinit.obj dbvid.obj dbcmd.obj dbedit.obj dbdbreg.obj
dbmain.obj dbsupt.obj dbint9.obj
AINC=dbequ.inc dbstruc.inc dbdat.inc dbpdat.inc dbmac.inc
.asm.obj:
masm $*;
# ASM Sources
dbisr.obj: $*.asm $(AINC)
dbinit.obj: $*.asm $(AINC)
dbvid.obj: $*.asm $(AINC)
dbcmd.obj: $*.asm $(AINC)
dbedit.obj: $*.asm $(AINC)
dbdbreg.obj: $*.asm $(AINC)
dbmain.obj: $*.asm $(AINC)
dbsupt.obj: $*.asm $(AINC)
dbint9.obj: $*.asm $(AINC)
# Executable
db.exe: $(OBJ1)
link @db.lnk
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Charles <charlesmorris at hughes.net> skrev:
> Now that OS/8 is running on my 8/A, RL02 system, I find I'm in
> need of some more detailed help. Although I'm wading through the
> 900+ pages of the "OS/8 Handbook" (and the Device Extensions
> document which at least addresses RL01's), I'm having a problem
> adding device handlers as follows.
>
> When I built the OS/8 image, it looks like I added only one RL02
> partition (here is the current BUILD printout):
>
>> sim> bo rl
>>
>> .SET SYS NOINIT
>>
>> .RUN SYS BUILD
>>
>> $PR
>>
>> BAT : *BAT
>> KL8E: *TTY
>> LPSV: *LPT
>> RK05: *RKA0 *RKB0 *RKA1 *RKB1 RKA2 RKB2 RKA3 RKB3
>> RX02: *RXA0 *RXA1
>> TD8A: *DTA0 *DTA1
>> R2SY: *SYS *R20A
>>
>> DSK=R2SY:R20A
>> $
>
> Doing a DIR shows "118 Files in 2517 Blocks - 1515 Free Blocks",
> or ~4000 total blocks on the disk, which is also consistent with
> one RL02 partition (A=40%,B=40%,C=20%) of the total 10000 free
> blocks.
>
> The RKB0: Diagnostic Pack has several handlers including:
> RL2SY.BH (which is what I am using), and also RL20.BH, RL21.BH,
> and RL2E.BH (not sure what that one is).
>
> But any attempt to LOAD RKB0:RL20.BH (for example) causes SIMH to
> stop with a "HALT instruction, PC: 20100 (ISZ 122)" message. I
> tried removing R2SY: entirely (after setting SYS to RKA0:) and
> still it won't work when trying to install other RL handlers.
>
> Also when reloading it will only allow n=1 (platter) which I
> suppose is correct. This may be why I only have one partition. I
> did this over a year ago and don't remember all the details.
> ANY ideas how to install the next partitions (R20B and C)?
>
> Also, since I am planning on adding a second RL02 drive, I will
> need (I think) R21A, B, C to appear in the active list. Is it even
> possible to add a second RL02 under OS/8?
>
> The C partitions aren't really necessary and are slow. I doubt I
> will ever get close to filling up even the A and B's (8 Mb per
> pack)....
They way you talk about this makes it sound like you're thinking of RL01
drives here. Are you aware of the fact that the RL02 will appear as five
drives to OS/8?
RLnA to RLnE?
Apart from that, I can't help you at the moment. My PDP8 systems are all
offline, and have been for a couple of years now. Although I have a real
8/A with RL02 drives, which do work.
Too long for my memory to be fresh on this one. Build have always been a
bit magical... :-)
Johnny
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Hi,
> On the buying side, I also have a good suggestion - so much of the
>buying on eBay these days is facilitated through PayPal (50 % or
>better?). As a result, eBay knows when a seller has been paid. So
>why not give automatic positive feedback. I mean, what really would
>a seller have to say after the buyer pays?
I can tell you what a seller might have to say....
I had a case of a US buyer paying immediately for an auction he'd won, but
the postage specified was for UK delivery and there was a clear instruction
for international buyers to contact me prior to sending payment for postage
costs.
Needless to say, he refused to pay the extra few pounds for postage. But
instead of emailing me to arrange to back out of the deal so I could offer
it to the next bidder, he contacts eBay and PayPal and has PayPal freeze my
account because I'd allegedly ripped HIM off and didn't have the item I'd
auctioned!
I got the last laugh though. To get PayPal to reinstate my account I had to
provide them with a tracking number for the parcel....the amount I'd charged
for postage just barely covered surface mail to his location, which would
take 12 weeks to get there....!!!! LMAO!
Outside of a couple of non-paying bidders, that was the only time I've been
forced to leave negative feedback. But unfortunately, there are some real
aholes out there. :-(
TTFN - Pete.
Just north of the border. 3+ hours from Seattle with
good traffic and border lines. Just loading that much
stuff would be a major under taking. I did talk to a
local scraper here in Seattle but so far, He is not
interested.
I also have a complete Canon AS-100 that works.
- Jerry
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
>
> > > > Are there any listers in Seattle that'd be
> > willing to take a drive up
> > > > to the warehouse and give us a better look-see
> > at the contents?
>
> How close is this place to Seattle? (<<too lazy to
> map it). Transportation is one thing - where are
> *y'all* gonna bloody well store all the stuff? He
> really should allow people to come in and cherry pick
> what they want, he'd make more money that way
> undoubtedly. And what's a 1000+ lot of that old stuff
> worth anyway? As a bulk deal a few grand...
> BUT...if anyone finds a Canon AS-100 in the_pile,
> consider it claimed :). My up and coming baby is going
> to need some company before too long ;). Man it's been
> too long a wait, but the day is approaching...
> Oh by the way I could be in Seattle in 5-7 weeks...
>
>
>
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Mark Wickens wrote:
> Jonathan,
>
> This is what an LK201 supplied with VT220 terminals looks like on the inside:
>
> http://www.wickensonline.co.uk/public-gallery/LK201
>
> Each key has a 'leafspring' mechanism. Not what I was expecting anyway...
>
> Mark.
>
Looking at those pictures, it seems the CIT-220+ keyboard is not all
that dissimilar in electrical design from the DEC one. It uses the same
kind of leaf switches but mounted in a completely different way, and the
leaves themselves don't act as electrical contacts on the CIT one, just
as secondary springs to push the thin contact plates.
If I remember correctly, the CIT keys look sort of like this if chopped
in half down the middle:
II-||-II
ICLKK I
ICLKK I
_CLSS _
|C LS |
--------
D
where C is the contact plate assembly
S is the main spring
K is the bottom of the key plunger
L is the leaf spring
_ is the place where the key plastic comes into two halves
I is the tab which holds the bottom half onto the top half
- is the bottom of the key
D is the solder tabs for the contact plate
| are the walls of the bottom part of the key
The leaf springs look like this if zoomed in, if I remember right:
side:
|
|
<
\
\
front:
_______
|_ _|
| |
| |
|_._|
/ _ \
|_/ \_|
I also worked out the complete key matrix for the CIT keyboard at one
point, I'll see if I can find it.
Jonathan Gevaryahu
jzg22 at drexel.edu
Now that OS/8 is running on my 8/A, RL02 system, I find I'm in
need of some more detailed help. Although I'm wading through the
900+ pages of the "OS/8 Handbook" (and the Device Extensions
document which at least addresses RL01's), I'm having a problem
adding device handlers as follows.
When I built the OS/8 image, it looks like I added only one RL02
partition (here is the current BUILD printout):
>sim> bo rl
>
>.SET SYS NOINIT
>
>.RUN SYS BUILD
>
>$PR
>
>BAT : *BAT
>KL8E: *TTY
>LPSV: *LPT
>RK05: *RKA0 *RKB0 *RKA1 *RKB1 RKA2 RKB2 RKA3 RKB3
>RX02: *RXA0 *RXA1
>TD8A: *DTA0 *DTA1
>R2SY: *SYS *R20A
>
>DSK=R2SY:R20A
>$
Doing a DIR shows "118 Files in 2517 Blocks - 1515 Free Blocks",
or ~4000 total blocks on the disk, which is also consistent with
one RL02 partition (A=40%,B=40%,C=20%) of the total 10000 free
blocks.
The RKB0: Diagnostic Pack has several handlers including:
RL2SY.BH (which is what I am using), and also RL20.BH, RL21.BH,
and RL2E.BH (not sure what that one is).
But any attempt to LOAD RKB0:RL20.BH (for example) causes SIMH to
stop with a "HALT instruction, PC: 20100 (ISZ 122)" message. I
tried removing R2SY: entirely (after setting SYS to RKA0:) and
still it won't work when trying to install other RL handlers.
Also when reloading it will only allow n=1 (platter) which I
suppose is correct. This may be why I only have one partition. I
did this over a year ago and don't remember all the details.
ANY ideas how to install the next partitions (R20B and C)?
Also, since I am planning on adding a second RL02 drive, I will
need (I think) R21A, B, C to appear in the active list. Is it even
possible to add a second RL02 under OS/8?
The C partitions aren't really necessary and are slow. I doubt I
will ever get close to filling up even the A and B's (8 Mb per
pack)....
Thanks for any help.
-Charles
Have you looked at something like Digikey.com?
They list a bunch of pigtailed power connectors with ID and ODs
specified. largest seems to be 2.5mm ID and 5.5mm OD. Page 409 of
the online Digikey catalog.
s shumaker
you wrote:
>On 5/24/07, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon at gjcp.net> wrote:
>>On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 09:22 -0400, Ethan Dicks wrote:
>> > On 5/24/07, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon at gjcp.net> wrote:
>> > > Maplin do these, but they're just described as "Power Connector". Is it
>> > > the same size as the ones used on Toshiba laptops?
>> >
>> > I think it's larger than that. I have what I thought was a large-bore
>> > power connector, but it doesn't come close to fitting. I'm just
>>
>>The centre pin on Toshiba laptop power connectors is about 3mm, way
>>bigger than the normal "fat" power connectors. The outside is the same.
>
>Hmm... I could believe it's a full 3mm. I'll do some digging on that.
>If Toshiba's have a 19V 3A brick, that'd probably do the trick.
>Targus sells various laptop adapter kits, but they cost more than the
>laptop (as do just Dolch drive bays, but fortunately, mine has one).
>
>Thanks,
>
>-ethan
I'm compelled to comment on the eBay topic.
First, I have to say that while it isn't bits and bytes, it is
relevant to the group. A lot of collectors of classic gear actually
get that gear from eBay. Every one of my 20 or so classic systems
came from eBay...
Anyway, I recently bought an item and received this in a form e-mail
>from the seller:
3)Am I going to receive a feedback from you since I paid immediately.
Due to overwhelming feedback request(we are all feedback junkies), I set
my system to Automatically leave POSITIVE feedback to buyer when the
following
TWO conditions are met:
i) item is paid. AND
ii) Buyer left me a positive feedback.
Of course, I was steamed about this. It's just not in the spirit of
how eBay is supposed to work.
I actually went to eBay to try to find a policy about this, stumbled
into the discussion forums and quickly realized that eBay, like Chuck
said, has all the integrity of "open-air bazaar in Marrakesh".
Tony's suggestion of keeping feedback private until both parties
submit feedback seems like a workable idea.
On the buying side, I also have a good suggestion - so much of the
buying on eBay these days is facilitated through PayPal (50 % or
better?). As a result, eBay knows when a seller has been paid. So
why not give automatic positive feedback. I mean, what really would
a seller have to say after the buyer pays?
It's amazing that in their recent revamp of the feedback system, what
they delivered is the best they could do.
-Matt
They now let you grade description, email responsiveness of seller,
etc. Hopefully this will improve the feedback score to a more
meaningful metric, but it will probably take a while to accumulate.
Particularly since the fine-grained feedback is optional.
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I have found, by scoping the data lines in and out of the laptop,
that the endless loop on the laptop is only an internal display
glitch - i.e. even though when I type characters they echo
endlessly on the screen until another key is pressed, only the one
(correct) character is sent to the PDP-11 at each keypress.
Similarly, when ODT sends a single "@", continuous "@@@@@@@..."
echoes on the display. Who knows why. It's annoying but apparently
does not affect the functioning of VTserver.
Then there was some more learning to interpret the cryptic
messages for input and output devices. Although I thought the
program was supposed to send my OS/8 image automatically from the
"virtual tape" (and its name is in the .vtrc file with 0 = copy
bootstrap, 1 = image file), I eventually learned that entering
"vt(1,0,0)" (or maybe it was "0,0,1") would accept the OS/8 image
file for input.
Not sure if my output device command is correct though. I'm trying
to write to my second RL02 drive (RL1: on the PDP-11/23+ with a
"1" key) and the only output device string that would work is
rl(0,1,0). The program does not explain the significance of the
(n,n,n) fields, although it does prompt for a string in that
format. It did display a confirmation each 100Kb, and did write
the entire 2.5 Mb file to the RL drive!
Although it's anyone's guess as to whether I did this correctly.
When I put the pack in the RL02 attached to my 8/A and press Load,
the "Ready" light does not come on, which I believe means the
heads have not locked on the servo track. Which is strange because
even if I wrote to the wrong places on the disk, it still should
be able to sync up. AFAIK it is not possible to overwrite the
servo tracks by writing blocks to the disk through a controller
card? Or maybe the light is burnt out... or the pack I used is
bad...
Please also explain to me the limitation for the size of each
partition under OS/8 again? 2500 Kb is less than 2 Mw at 12 bits
per word?
thanks
-Charles
On Thu, 24 May 2007 08:15:14 -0700, you wrote:
>On 5/24/07, Charles <charlesmorris at hughes.net> wrote:
>> yep, Win XP Pro.
>> I don't want to go backwards to 98 though :)
>> Anything else you could recommend?
>>
>> -Charles
>>
>
>I wouldn't want to install Windows 98 on a system I was currently
>using either. I just happened to have an old Windows 98 system around
>that I could use.
>
>I didn't spend any time trying to figure out what the problem might be
>on Windows XP. That would probably be a good thing to do if it might
>help other people in the future. I had the VTServer source code and
>could try working on it. Maybe I can find some time this weekend to
>take a look again.
>
>-Glen
While $89.93 is quite an oddball price, I wouldn't say its outrageous.
This graphics card is for sale in an eBay store, not on an auction, so it
will just site there until someone buys it. Its conceivable that there is
a Rainbow or two left somewhere in some forgotten industrial application
where replacement is not an option without some extreme costs related to
it. I've seen Rainbow parts on sale for much higher, mostly from DEC
resellers.
I still use a Rainbow, and there was a time when my stock of parts was
much lower that I may have considered purchasing this card at this price.
You have to remember that there is some cost to maintaining a stock of
obscure parts that probably only a handful of people in the world would
even ever consider purchasing.
If he sells it for that price, though, then I think i'll consider getting
into the used Rainbow parts business ;-).
Jeff Armstrong
jba at sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
On 5/22/07, Mr Ian Primus <ian_primus at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > The 101 is the model shaped and colored much like a
> > VT100. The keyboard looks similar... but
> > its protocol is _not_ compatible with the VT100.
>
> Good thing I didn't buy the one on eBay a couple
> months ago. There was a 101 there, and cheap too, but
> it had no keyboard.
I may haev a few CiTOH terminals to drag to VCFmw if there's any
interest. Closer to the event, I'll inventory what I have and see if
I kept any spare keyboards "just in case", if anyone out there already
has a terminal, but can't figure out why their VT100 keyboard doesn't
work with it.
I remember back in the day, since we had dozens of CiTOH and DEC
terminals, looking over the available schematics for both and not
being able to figure out how the keyboard works. I think it was a
matter of inadequate/fuzzy docs more than anything else. Does anyone
know of a good printset to pore over to see the nuts-and-bolts of a
VT100-era keyboard? ISTR the crux of it was a 6402-type UART
squeezing out the keystrokes at some slow baud rate, but I can't
recall any essential details right now. I'm just curious if it's
possible to swap a crystal or make a simple, switched change to allow
one keyboard to work across both vendor's product lines.
We used to have lots of dead keyboard when there was one or two
terminals on everyone's desk. Since the company was shrinking at that
stage, we never bothered fixing them - we just pulled one off a vacant
desk and kept working. The number of working keyboards never shrank
below the steadily decreasing size of the staff, so economically, it
made sense. I think I only saved working keyboards in that set of 4
van loads, but it's entirely possible I picked up one or two dead
ones. Right now, I have to search the pile for a VT100 keyboard to
get my DECmate I back up and running so I can press it into service as
an RX01/RX02 image archiver and finally whittle down my cartons of
floppies.
-ethan
um, I've had this thing for a while now. It's pretty
shabby. The front plastic bezel thing fell off (prolly
cause SOMEONE keeps pushing the Honda against it).
Other parts and pieces are strewn around the yard. I
resisted the urge to send all that crap out for the
metal pickup (oh anyone want a rusty 1914 Dalton lathe
- only $75 if you pick it up. Real nice babbitt
spindle bearings ;). So what to do? Should I actually
turn it on? Some board fell out of it not long after I
pulled in the driveway 2 winters ago. What's it good
for anyway? I hate to just chuck it. At one time these
things were going for a G+ on duh bay. Not this puppy
though. I'm totally open to suggestions.
If anyone has a clean doner (or parts) I could very
well be interested. I can't say I have much in the way
for a trade though...
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--- ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote:
> Yes, but most of the 'IBM incompatibles' had 1 bit per pixel, just
on/off
>monochrome grpahics. The 'Bow had a CLUT and up to 4 bits per pixel I
think.
The Rainbow could do 4 colors from a pallette of 4096 in hi-res (800x240)
and 16 from a pallette of 4096 in low-res (384x240). The fact that the
pallette was not fixed was a major selling point with some because, in
low-res, properly dithered photographic pictures would look far better
than on the fixed-pallete IBM PC modes (CGA, EGA).
What's a CLUT, by the way? Not familiar with that acronym...
-Jeff Armstrong
jba at sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
Here goes another guessing game. I'm aware of the PC
1512 (8086), but something tells me this is an earlier
unit w/o an integrated monitor and such. Could be a
1512 though cuz the dude has "1000 games".
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Hi there!
In Norfolk there are quite often Rolms 1666B for
auction, which can readily be exported to Germany
since they do not require demil.
Is there any vintage compunter freak out there
who would pick up such a lot and send them to me?
A commercial carrier charges wants $750 to $1200
for this task. I am not willing to pay that
much money since this is only a hobby for me.
Maybe one of you is there by occasion???
Does anyone know a cheaper way for shipping of
govliq lots?
Best regards,
Erik.
ahh sorry... definitely drawing a blank at 4 sources for anything over 2.5.
s shumaker
At 09:19 AM 5/24/2007, you wrote:
>On 5/24/07, Steve Shumaker <shumaker at att.net> wrote:
>>Have you looked at something like Digikey.com?
>>
>>They list a bunch of pigtailed power connectors with ID and ODs
>>specified. largest seems to be 2.5mm ID and 5.5mm OD. Page 409 of
>>the online Digikey catalog.
>
>That is assuredly too small. I have plenty of 2.5mm ID plugs. This
>is much larger.
>
>Thanks,
>
>-ethan
do you by chance have some TIL308 left? I would need about 10 ea.
306 or 311 would also do fine.
Or do you know a replacemant for those TI-Displays?
Thank you
mit freundlichem Gru?
Eberhard Hewicker
Germany
dk3he at web.de
__________________________________________________________________________________________________
I have made electronic copies of the Univac 1219 Miltary Computer (mid
60's) sales brochure, and posted on my web site vintagecomputer.net. Also
included is a short narrative / interview from a system programmer of the
era. Not included on my site is what I believe to be the bi-octal program
that will type out the 1478 addresses that are loaded by bootstrap, should
someone have a working 1219 in their living room and need a copy.
-Bill D
Hi,
I'm currently building a MicroVAX I (slowest VAX ever) from parts.
I've already got the BA23 box, CPU (2 boards), memory, disk and ethernet controllers.
But unfortunately the MicroVAX I console patch panel is missing.
Has anyone got a spare one to give away or swap?
Or does anyone know the pinout for the console port on the M7135 MicroVAX I DAP module?
There are two connectors which look like this:
|-----------|
| o o o o o |
| o o o o |
|-----------|
The connectors are identical to e.g. those on a DLV11-J serial interface.
I guess one is for the console connection and the other one for the baud rate selection.
Another interesting question is: What are the two switch blocks on the M7135 DAP module good for?
Anyone who knows about that?
Any help is very much appreciated!
Regards
Ulli
Revise to:
KDJ11-BF (M8190-AE) Goes in slot 1
KDJ11-Bx
MSV11-JE M8637-EA Slot 2
Slot 2
MSV11-JE M8637-EA Slot 3
Rod
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Pete Turnbull
Sent: 23 May 2007 22:58
To: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: PDP-11/84, PMI and Q-bus
On 23/05/2007 21:21, Rod Smallwood wrote:
> So in order of preference:
> KDJ11-BF (M8190-AE) Goes in slot 1
> KDJ11-Bx
>
>
> MSV11-JD Slot 2
> MSV11-JD Slot 3
Oops! I'm sorry, but -JD was a typo on my part. I meant to write
MSV11-JE, M8637-EA, which is the higher-capacity version: a pair would
give you the full 4MB that a PDP-11 can address. The -JD is half the
size.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
I'm continually thinning this accumulation of mine.
Anyone have anything to trade for a Tandy 2000 sans
monitor (but all of mine have the color graphics option).
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