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by quapla＠xs4all.nl

> > Found during cleanup. > > 1 Microvax maintenance CDrom, contains the diagnostic software. > Complete in caddy and grey storage case. > (Dec partno AG-PCUSE-RE) > > I would like to have $15 for it. > > I found a few more things which are related to the cdrom, a diagnostics manual and a set (11) of 5.25 floppies in plastic case. All 3 items together for $25 + postage.

18 years, 3 months

Word Perfect 3.0?

by cclist＠sydex.com

I've got some document files from 1984 that were created on a PC. Although I'm not certain about the program used to create them, they certainly look internally like Word Perfect (256 bytes of 00, a few binary bits and then a block of FFs, followed by text blocks). My conversion packages (RDocX and WordPort) only go back to WP 4.1 and while they accept the files as Word Perfect, don't convert them properly. Does anyone have a suitable vintage copy of WP for DOS that might handle these things? Thanks, Chuck

18 years, 3 months

TQFP soldering (follow-up)

by cclist＠sydex.com

I tried my hand at soldering a 68 pin TQFP using the "push the blob down" method described on a YouTube video. It worked pretty well, but for one side of the QFP, where there were several solder bridges. The bridges were easy to clean up using a bit of solder wick. About the only thing I'd do differently is to tack down two corners rather than one--it's easy with just one corner tacked to displace the package slightly with just the pressure of the soldering tip. I didn't try the "flood and suck" method. I used the largest chisel tip on my old Weller TC201 iron, a PTC6--a blunt tip suited to soldering #14 wire, but it holds a lot a solder. Thanks all for the suggestions, Chuck

18 years, 3 months

Wanted: 13W3-3BNC cable

by silent700＠gmail.com

Got my SGI Crimson up and running on serial console, and I've got an old SGI monitor sitting around, but I guess I gave away all my cables. Anyone have such a cable in their junk bins? Only ones on ebay now are from the dealer-gougers.

18 years, 3 months

VAX or Alpha in San Francisco east bay area

by compoobah＠valleyimplants.com

> You can get the license for free, but for some reason HP has decided > not to provide downloads. You can buy hobbyist media for $30, but > that's way more than I've spent getting the system itself and I don't > want to wait for the thing to arrive, so I'm hoping somebody has it up > on FTP somewhere. > AFAIK the DEC/CPQ/HP license never allowed that officially. The big unfortunate bit about the hobbyist program is that HP has not approved a v4 hobbyist release with OpenVMS 8.2 yet (been years). There are differences between V7.3-2 and V8.x that make some software unusable. On the good side, the licenses are valid for any version of OVMS you can get your hands on, <OfT>Itanium support has been added to the hobbyist PAKGEN</OfT>, and the program is still alive!

18 years, 3 months

SGI Crimson

by compoobah＠valleyimplants.com

On Jan 5, 2008, at 5:53 PM, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > Is ID 4 essential? I've read conflicting info re: required device IDs > for booting. What is the expected behavior using a different ID? > No- OpenBoot Suns alias the "boot cdrom" command to a specific ID, but SGIs don't. Don't use ID0- that's the HBA on SGIs, other than that anything goes. Default systemdisk is ID1, though, respecting that makes it easier. For a different ID you have to change your "boot" command, that's the only difference.

18 years, 3 months

VAX or Alpha in San Francisco east bay area

by slawmaster＠gmail.com

I've recently been searching for a VMS-capable machine or two in the East Bay area of San Francisco, CA and have been directed to this list. Besides catering to my interest in classic computing, I'm hoping it will also have a few subscribers in my area (Livermore) with a VAX, Alpha, or Itanium to get rid of cheap. If you have one, please drop me a note off-list. I guess I'll also need CDs or CD images of VMS for Alpha if I end up getting one of those... I have VAX images but no Alpha. Oh, one more thing--I have already run VMS on SIMH's VAX emulator, thank you, but I'd like to try it on real hardware. Thanks John -- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

18 years, 3 months

Looking for IMSAI 8080 CP-A Schematic

by mardy＠voysys.com

Does anyone know where I can find the schematic for the IMSAI CP-A (operators panel)? Every source I have looked at just has the assembly and operations manual for the CP-A, but not the actual schematic. I'm trying to bring back an old one from the grave, and having an actual schematic would help a lot! Thanks, -Mardy

18 years, 3 months

Looking for IMSAI 8080 CP-A Schematic

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: Looking for IMSAI 8080 CP-A Schematic > From: "Marden P. Marshall" <mardy at voysys.com> > Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:02:40 -0500 > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > > >On Jan 5, 2008, at 12:39 PM, Roy J. Tellason wrote: > >> On Saturday 05 January 2008 03:50, David Griffith wrote: >>> On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, Marden P. Marshall wrote: >>>> Does anyone know where I can find the schematic for the IMSAI CP-A >>>> (operators panel)? Every source I have looked at just has the >>>> assembly and operations manual for the CP-A, but not the actual >>>> schematic. I'm trying to bring back an old one from the grave, and >>>> having an actual schematic would help a lot! >>> >>> I have an original documentation binder that I'll check out and >>> photocopy >>> if it has the schematics. >> >> I do too, someplace. It's hiding though. I don't recall if it >> includes that >> information or not. If you end up making that info available in >> electronic >> form, I'd be interested in having a copy as well. >> >> And while we're on the subject of Imsai, does anybody have part >> numbers handy >> for those switches? I have several that are broken to replace. > >They are made by C & K. The 2-position ones are P/N 7101 and the >momentary are P/N 7105. You can order them from www.IMSAI.net for >between $11.00 and 12.00 a piece. That's anywhere from $3-5 more than Digikey and they are an expensive source! I usually get them for under $7 in unit lots. NOTE: the suffix for those switches is important as they come in differnt mountings and with differing solder posts. Allison > >> >> >> -- >> Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and >> ablest -- form of life in this section of space, a critter that can >> be killed but can't be tamed. --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet >> Masters" >> - >> Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by >> lies. --James >> M Dakin >> >>

18 years, 3 months

free strongarm sa1100 devel system kit

by brad＠heeltoe.com

I have a strongarm (sa1100) development board I'm about to pitch and I thought maybe someone here would want it. It's an "Assabet" board I think. It once booted linux. I have some of the original cdrom's also and the serial cable and power supply. The devel board has ethernet, usb, lcd and sound. It seems like it's 10 years old anyway :-) I believe the part has been EOL'd. If you want it, send me you address and paypal postage. The box weighs 5lbs (.3 stone? :-) -brad Brad Parker Heeltoe Consulting +1-781-483-3101 http://www.heeltoe.com

18 years, 3 months

LIST ADMIN - new temporary list

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Fellow Listmembers; I've procrastinated ad-nauseam on this till it's way past time to address the issue.... the Classiccmp server is in need of a hardware upgrade and/or replacement. The main (but not only) issue: disc space and thus chassis space. This produces a cascading set of dependencies :) I realize the upgrade is not entirely due to the classiccmp list, some of it is due to all the classiccmp related websites & ftp sites I have agreed to host gratis for listmembers. I feel these provide a service to our community and are worth providing the facilities for - but I want to make sure that is all clear to everyone. As a side note, we're looking to do a substantial bandwidth upgrade at the datacenter too - no doubt that will help traffic matters on the classiccmp server. I do not want to clutter up the normal list traffic with discussion of this topic. Some here won't care about it and/or will be annoyed by all the PeeCee hardware talk. Others will no doubt pull it into other unrelated topics ;) As a result, I've created a new temporary list (newserver at classiccmp.org) for this discussion. If anyone is interested in participating in the hardware discussion about what to upgrade to, how best to do it, etc. please join that list as soon as possible. Yes, I'm completely capable of coming up with a configuration and putting it into production without input... but there are various subjective things I'd like others advice on besides just my own. Not to mention these upgrades have usually been mostly funded through member donations so it's certainly appropriate to get input from as many as possible who wish to talk about it. My plan is to wait a week for anyone interested to get on the newserver list. After that time, I will start the discussion by posting a detailed list of exactly what is in the server, what issues I see with it, what I was thinking as to solutions, etc. Then we can all discuss there. Once we come down to how to proceed, perhaps we will post back to the main list for everyone to be aware of - or should we just assume the interested parties participated in the other list and just go with it? Don't answer that here, it's a question for the other list traffic :) Once a decision is reached, the temporary list will be decomissioned. I very sincerely appreciate the input anyone may have there with regards to server upgrade choices. Best regards, Jay West

18 years, 3 months

DEC Station 5000/25

by technobug＠comcast.net

If anyone is interested in the subject beast, contact me off list. Location 85704 USA. CRC

18 years, 3 months

cctalk Digest, Vol 53, Issue 10

by ball.of.john＠gmail.com

Message: 8 Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 11:25:29 -0600 From: "Jason T" <silent700 at gmail.com> Subject: SGI Crimson (was:13W3-3BNC cable) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <51ea77730801050925n2a68cd01wcbfb2a0bd2af23c5 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Jan 5, 2008 10:46 AM, Scott Quinn <compoobah at valleyimplants.com> wrote: >So since mine says "Server" yet has a 13W3 gfx board (haven't opened >it up to ID it yet, and can't get into the OS to do a gfxinfo) it was >probably a field-upgrade? I do have the "Elan" badge as well, and the >owner only had one Crimson, so I'm assuming that's where it came from. The only way to be positive is if you open the case. the 13W3 connection was the standard monitor connector for SGI's for almost a decade. >"Pimp my SGI," I guess, and just make use of the nicer gfx board >before the dead Iris gets scrapped. Just part it out and sell it on nekochan.net if you are going to scrap it. >I got an internal cdrom recogzined last night. The only Irix distro I >have now is 6.5. Will the Crimson at least load fx from that? It was >acting like it couldn't even find the file, though, giving some scsi >errors if I booted into the hdd's fx and tried 'ls dksc(....)" on the >CD. I tried an Apple CD600i and a Toshiba model which was listed in >the SGI cdrom survey. Of course, they could be bad drives, who knows. > Too many variables! > >Next method will be to attach the boot drive to another SGI and edit >/etc/passwd from there. > >Thanks for all the helps Most of the older PROM style systems had an issue booting from a cd drive. You can't just use any with them. Many people report that Plextor drives are some of the best and Toshiba drive are right behind. Don't forget also that the cd drive must be ID 4 and be set for 512 byte sectors (not 1024 or 2048). I personally have never tried booting my crimson with my 6.5 cd's but if you just use FX from an Irix 5.3 cd you should be fine.

18 years, 3 months

Crimson boards and parts

by ball.of.john＠gmail.com

Well since I see someone else here is chatting about their red box it might be nice to ask questions too. My Crimson was given to me by a person who originally got several desksides at a Boeing sale. When I got the system it had a ruined RM4 (raster manager) board and was missing it's GE8 (Geometry Engine) board. Turns out that the GE8 was accidentally sold and the RM4...well....I guess that is what you get when you grab a random RM4 off a pile of boards and install it before inspecting it. The system is otherwise fine (aside from the lower side skirts missing, no drive sleds, a dead fan tray and not much ram) however it would be nice to find another GE8 board and see the Reality Engine, the best graphics option for the system, come back to life with another RM4. Who here has some spare trays and/or a GE8 board they are not using? It might also be nice to get more ram also.

18 years, 3 months

Amplifier manuals

by kcox155＠earthlink.net

Chris, I know this is an old thread I am looking at, but if you still have a copy of Realistic MPA-100 owners manual, I would appreciate it. Thanks, Kenny

18 years, 3 months

RX02 / DSD440 / SA801 problem

by djg＠pdp8.net

Manual is at http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dsd/

18 years, 3 months

Replacing SCSI with flash?

by jrr＠flippers.com

I'm assuming that this is on-topic as the equipment I wish to use this in is microprocessor controlled (68000) piece of test equipment - the Fluke 9100 series of microprocessor test fixtures. What my group of friends (Tech Tools Mail List) are looking for is a cost effective replacement for the ancient SCSI drives with flash being an optimum solution, but trying to find the most cost effective solution... I've only found one solution (Adtron S35FA) on line with a bit of hunting, but not reading the current magazines I'm probably overlooking a number of possibilities. Anyone have suggestions? Thanks, John :-#)# -- John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9 Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, VideoGames) www.flippers.com "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out"

18 years, 3 months

Wanted: 13W3-3BNC cable

by compoobah＠valleyimplants.com

On Jan 5, 2008, at 8:20 AM, Jochen wrote: > May it be possible that the Crimson uses High Voltage Differential SCSI > for its disks like some HP9000 server class machines? In that case a > Single Ended device will look up the bus completely. Check the model > designator on the disks if they are SE or HVD... > -- The base I/O on 4D-series (including Crimson) machines was SE SCSI-I (WD 33c93) on the IO3B. HVD can be installed through VME options, but was not standard (as it was in the later Onyx/Challenge). The OP may want to look at Gerhard's page about the Crimson (http://sgistuff.g-lenerz.de/hardware/machines/crimson.php), which gives more details about the SCSI configuration.

18 years, 3 months

Wanted: 13W3-3BNC cable

by compoobah＠valleyimplants.com

On Jan 5, 2008, at 8:20 AM, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org Richard wrote: > Oh, a VGXT. I've wanted one of those in my collection as its the > first SGI machine with hardware texture. I'm still fuzzy on what the > difference is between a Crimson and a VGXT, aside from the graphics > bits. Crimson is the base machine, VGXT is the graphics set - similar to what you get with smaller boxes (i.e. you can have an Indigo2 in XL, EXtreme, IMPACT, etc.). VGXT is the 3rd generation high end SGI graphics (1st - IRIS graphics, 2nd - GTX, 3rd - VGX(T), 4th - Reality) Jason T wrote: > I believe the > Server had no gfx at all? Now inside the door I also found an "Elan" > tag with the glue worn off, so I'm guessing it may have gotten a field > upgrade, video card and label. > > I've got a dead Iris 410/VGXT downstairs. Wonder if I can transplant > the gfx board from that into the Crimson? Servers (S) didn't come with graphics. Later SGI separated out their server lines even more with a different base name (Challenge/Origin), but during the late '80s the base model was the same. Regarding the gfx upgrade: You can, but SGI never wrote a good OpenGL implementation for the PowerVision VGX/VGXTgraphics hardware, so much of the work is done by the main CPU (IRIS GL is fully supported). So, it depends on what you want to do with it... > > Anyone tried to use external SCSI on a Crimson (or Iris?) Mine has > all the drive bays full (3 HDD and a 150mb tape) and I'm trying to get > a CDROM hooked up temporarily so I can reset the root pw on the drive. > There are two external SCSI connectors. If I attach to the left > one, I lose my hard drives (and still no cdrom seen in 'hinv.') If I > attach to the right one, nothing. It should be the one on the cardcage (make sure termination is good). If that doesn't work, you can loop it in the two connectors on the bottom right (one cable from lower connector to CD-ROM, one cable from CD-ROM to top connector). Is the jumper present? There should be a short cable between the two, and you might have oddities if this isn't there (such as the cardcage connector not functioning). One possible gotcha- IRIX 6.2 fx for the Crimson is broken, so you'll need to fx with either an earlier IRIX (4.0.5-5.3) or fx on a different SGI. All of this is per the SGI hardware developer's handbook, I don't have a Crimson.

18 years, 3 months

cctalk Digest, Vol 53, Issue 9

by compoobah＠valleyimplants.com

On Jan 5, 2008, at 8:20 AM, Jason T. wrote: > I did see the Sun cable with the 4 BNC on US ebay and thought the > same. I'm not sure if that fourth lead is relevant. > Nope - unconnected it's just floating, the same as if it wasn't there. SGI 4Ds have always used sync-on-green, so connect your x BNC -> 13W3 up and connect the RGB leads, ignoring the other ones. You do need to have a SOG-capable monitor.

18 years, 3 months

accessing a DEC TSZ07 from a PC

by mkath＠charter.net

A few years ago I picked up a DEC TSZ07 and would like to access it >from my PC. The DEC TSZ07 is a tabletop 9-track tape drive with a SCSI-1 interface. Apparently it was originally manufactured by Cipher Data, model 955-S. I'd just like to write some files out to tape and then read them back. I don't have to recover/restore any data from an old tape. Ideally >from a Windows machine. Has anyone tried this? Is there any software available? Matt Roswell, Georgia

18 years, 3 months

Replacing SCSI with flash?

by trag＠io.com

> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 12:27:57 +0000 > From: Stroller <classiccmp.org at stellar.eclipse.co.uk> > > On 3 Jan 2008, at 18:35, John Robertson wrote: >> ... >> What my group of friends (Tech Tools Mail List) are looking for is >> a cost effective replacement for the ancient SCSI drives with flash >> being an optimum solution, but trying to find the most cost >> effective solution... >> >> I've only found one solution (Adtron S35FA) on line ... > > I'm not immediately able to find pricing on the Adtron product, but > IDE-SCSI adaptors - to allow you to connact an (E)IDE hard-drive to a > SCSI bus are readily available. CF flash memory cards "talk EIDE" and > again simple pin-out convertors are readily available - and also very > cheap - or you can make your own. To get specific with part numbers... Acard makes the Acard 7720 in a few varieties. In this case you'd want the 7720U probably for its narrow interface (7720UW has 68 pin interface and there are LVDS flavors as well). This has a narrow (50 pin) single ended SCSI interface on the upstream side and a regular 3.5" IDE (as opposed to notebook drive) interface on the downstream side. It retails for about $70, but there's a fellow selling a boat-load of used ones on Ebay for $30 each. I have some new ones I'm selling for $39 which include the little power splitter/adapter and a nice instruction sheet. :-) Once you have the 7720U, you have two directions you can go. Go as you planned and get any of the inexpensive IDE<=>CF Card adapters, which typically cost well under $10. Geeks.com has an assortment for $5 each with a dual CF card adapter for $7.50 in their "controllers/adapters" section. The other direction you could go is to get a 2.5" to 3.5" drive adapter for about $5 (again at geeks.com, there's a cheaper one, but the $5 one comes with rails as well as circuit board) and add any of the 2.5" IDE hard drives you can find littering the ground. There can be gotchas depending on your equipment. One resourceful fellow in Australia used an IDE to CF card adapter in the PowerBook 150, IIRC, only to find that the IDE in the PB150 interpreted the device ID of CF improperly (built before or around time spec was finalized) and would not recognize it. His solution was to build an adapter board to recognize and intercept the ID transaction and then let all other transactions pass. As I mentioned, a resourceful fellow. The point being, there are possible compatibility problems depending on the equipment being used. Jeff Walther

18 years, 3 months

SGI Crimson (was: need 13W3 cable)

by silent700＠gmail.com

On Jan 4, 2008 4:47 PM, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote: > Is yours marked "Jurassic Classic"? Mine is :-) Nope :( This one was meant to be a no-gfx server, I guess. Even the hostname on the installed Irix 6.2 is "webserver." > Is it possible that the SCSI device IDs are fixed and that's why > connecting an external device makes your HD disappear? The hdd sleds all have external pushbutton-selectable IDs. Not sure about the tape drive. My next step is to take one of the non-boot drives out of its sled and put a (hopefully compatable) CD-Rom drive in there. I want to see what's on these drives!

18 years, 3 months

RX02 / DSD440 / SA801 problem

by Dominic.Romaguera＠LeTigre.com

Tom: In reference to problems listed below...if you can fax or email complete LED-decoding, it would be GREATLY appreciated... Dominic 281-320-7525FAX On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Jos Dreesen wrote: > 6 and 8 on : "indeterminate density" . > Maybe the floppydisc itself is marginal ? There's nothing in the drive when this is happening. Maybe when it tries to move, its checking for density? > 5, 6 and 8 : "invalid drive status during seek" > > Give me a fax number off-list and I'll fax you the complete LED-decoding > list. Cool, thanks! -Tom {\rtf1\mac\ansicpg10000\cocoartf824\cocoasubrtf420 {\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset77 Helvetica;} {\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;} \margl1440\margr1440\vieww13240\viewh11000\viewkind0 \pard\tx720\tx1440\tx2160\tx2880\tx3600\tx4320\tx5040\tx5760\tx6480\tx7200\tx7920\tx8640\ql\qnatural\pardirnatural \f0\fs24 \cf0 ________________________________________________________________________________\ \ LeTigre Solutions, Inc.\ \ This message, as well as any attached document, contains information\ >from LeTigre Solutions, Inc. that is confidential and/or privileged. The\ information is intended only for the use of the addressee named above.\ \ If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any\ disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in\ reliance on the contents of this message or its attachments is strictly\ prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in\ error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its\ attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created,\ without disclosing the contents, and notify the sender immediately.\ \ Unless expressly stated otherwise, nothing contained in this message\ should be construed as a digital or electronic signature, nor is it\ intended to reflect an intention to make an agreement by electronic\ means. \ \ \ }

18 years, 3 months

offer - VAX 4000/500 cluster

by Mark＠Misty.com

Hi, Due to lack of space, I've got to part with my VAX 4000/500 cluster. It consists of a pair of VAX 4000/500 servers, and a third identical-looking DSSI BA disk cabinet. I was last using this as a single system, and had moved a memory board from one node to the other, but as far as I know all works. I'm including the DSSI cables. This includes quite a few DSSI disks. This also includes a KZQSA SCSI card, external SCSI cdrom drive, and OpenVMS VAX media. This also includes several HSD30 DSSI RAID controllers, for connecting SCSI disks, though I have neither the SCSI cables nor disks to go with these. I don't think this is worth a lot, but was hoping for something useful but smaller in trade. Of interest would be an IBM p Series server, *recent* Sun or Cisco gear, or possibly PDP8/e printed service manuals and/or spare cards. This is available for local pickup only, near Plymouth Meeting, PA, USA. Please e-mail me if interested. Mark -- Mark G. Thomas (Mark at Misty.com) voice: 215-591-3695 http://mail-cleaner.com/

18 years, 3 months

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