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by cclist＠sydex.com

Please respond privately if you don't think a 20-year old topic is appropriate for the list. I was wondering if anyone's tried to use a Microsolutions Match Point and/or a Central Point Deluxe option board on a 386/20. I'll be using an old Micronics system (no custom VLSI) if that's any help. I'd like to find out if this works before I get out my screwdriver. Thanks, Chuck

18 years

Semi-OT: recommend a fast, high-capacity sheet-fed scanner?

by listmailgoeshere＠gmail.com

Hi list, I'd like to pick your collective brains, if I may? I have quite a few books here which, though I'd like to keep the content, do take up a lot of space*. I'm looking at some kind of solution for scanning them, and so far "cutting the spines off and loading the pages into a sheet-fed scanner" seems likely to be fastest - I can't afford an automatic book scanner, and whilst there are units like the Mustek OpticBook range, it'd take forever to be there picking the book up, turning the page and replacing it for each scan. This is only semi-OT inasmuch as I know various people on the list need to scan classic-computer-related documentation from time to time, so this info may be useful to others. So - does anyone know of a make/model scanner which has a high (ideally 100 pages or more) sheet-feed capacity, is fast (ideally SCSI, maybe USB2, Firewire is third choice) and produces good results for this sort of thing? New or secondhand is fine. Thanks, Ed. * nothing of any historic or cultural significance - mainly just recipe books. I wouldn't destroy anything rare or important.

18 years

Semi-OT: recommend a fast, high-capacity sheet-fed scanner?

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> So - does anyone know of a make/model scanner which has a high > (ideally 100 pages or more) sheet-feed capacity, is fast (ideally > SCSI, maybe USB2, Firewire is third choice) and produces good results > for this sort of thing? There are many. I'm currently using a Kodak 2500D, which can be found used for a few hundred dollars on eBay.

18 years

Switch settings: Facit 4070 tape punch

by drb＠msu.edu

Hi, Looking for switch setting info for the serial (multi interface?) board in a Facit 4070 tape punch. The stencilled on labels are a little cryptic, and there's no stencil for the big chrome toggle switch on the back. Thanks, De

18 years

VCF Midwest 4.0 on April 26-27 at Purdue University

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

VCF Midwest is happening on April 26-27 at Purdue University in Indiana. Patrick has told me he's going to literally break the legs of any people who are able to come but don't. I've seen Patrick do this and it was not pretty. Please don't piss off Patrick. Start making your plans to attend NOW. http://www.vintage.org/2008/midwest/ Both VCF-MW and VCF Europa are occurring on the same weekend. We are hoping to have some sort of simulcast between the two to the extent possible in overcoming technical challenges and time zone differences. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

18 years

Fwd: [FG] [Fwd: viz, Arthur Clarke]

by rtellason＠verizon.net

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: [FG] [Fwd: viz, Arthur Clarke] Date: Friday 21 March 2008 11:03 From: Gus Gere <gere at sasktel.net> To: "fidoguns at fidoguns.org" <fidoguns at fidoguns.org> Crosspost <http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyimages/1085.jpg> or via http://tinyurl.com/2hlgpu ------------------------------------------------------- -- Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and ablest -- form of life in this section of space, ?a critter that can be killed but can't be tamed. ?--Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters" - Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James M Dakin

18 years

NGEN B26 - CTOS floppy?

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> I would commit an unnatural act to get a set of CTOS system disks. It appears Bear Striklin (typewritten.org) has B2x software, though I've not been able to contact him about it.

18 years

Aurthur C. Clarke has passed

by feldman.r＠comcast.net

Clarke was an early user of KayPro lugables. >From: Randy Dawson <rdawson16 at hotmail.com> >Subject: OT: Aurthur C. Clarke has passed >at home, 90: >http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=4476240

18 years

S100 archive?

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

Fred Cisin wrote: > I think you'd have trouble copyrighting a copy of a copyrighted work. It depends. Certainly when Andy Warhol makes a mechanically- assisted reproduction of a Campbell's Soup Can, or 32 of them, he's making original art... just based on a trademarked logo. I know, trademarks are not the same as copyrights. But other artists do montages of newspaper clippings to great effect, and there the originals were protected by copyright. Or look at Blue Man Group's "Project 13". They didn't own the copyrights to the original documents, yet they make a perfectly good statement using them. At the same time I'm sure BMG pays for the clips of Devo and Freebird they use to great effect in their shows :-) His status as a former commercial artist of course has a lot to do with his other art. I bumped up against that specialty several times over my career and have a lot of respect for what they do. I also like Roy Lichtenstein, BTW :-). Others here probably don't like this kind pop-art stuff. But my experience with commercial artists has really made me appreciate mechanical processes as well as the results. Tim.

18 years

Aurthur C. Clarke has passed

by roger.holmes＠microspot.co.uk

>>> It is sad that he has passed on. He was a brilliant, visionary man >>> that, luckily for us, left a legacy of great writings that will >>> live on. >> True. But if I remember authors right, 2001 never did come true. But geostationary communications satellites did. > Nor did 1984 - however, meanwhile, I hear people call Orwell an > optimist. > > Anyway, the old SF visionaries are leaving us. Asimov, Lem, now > Clarke; > the golden times of SF disappear. > > Concerning 2001: I doubt I really want to have a HAL9000. Nothing wrong with the hardware, it had been programmed to be a serial murderer under certain conditions. Deliberate, not even a bug and of course contrary to the laws of robotics. Somewhat like HAL, sadly my father has dementia and likes reciting nursery rhymes (and gets them wrong), which gets under the skin of the other residents of his nursing home and he had a fight with an old lady who broke his glasses and he hit her with his walking stick. The staff took the stick away and later we got a call to say he had had a fall, hardly surprising. Gone slightly off topic there a bit, sorry. Does anyone here have a use for a BROKEN wide format Hewlett Packard ink jet printer? I think we got it in 2000, so not ten years old quite yet but useful for printing schematics if you have the knowledge/patience to repair it. It might even be a current model, things move slowly in the wide format side of things where low volumes force design costs to be recouped over longer periods.

18 years

Parametron PC-1

by cclist＠sydex.com

> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:37:42 -0700 > From: "Marcin Wichary" The parametron computers were late 50's/early 60's, not 70's. CHM has a brochure on the NEC box: http://www.computerhistory.org/brochures/companies.php?alpha=m- p&company=com-42bc20c009b92 A couple of photos here: http://www.math.cs.musashi-tech.ac.jp/~shida/museum/parametron.html This book dedicates a chapter to parametron computers: http://www.i-ise.com/en/lecture/lect_200512b.html Herb Grosch mentions meeting Eiichi Goto in his "Bit Slices" autobio: http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/computer.html If you search on the Kana string for "Parametron", you'll find lots more: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%91%E3%83%A9%E3%83%A1%E3%83%88%E3%8 3%AD%E3%83%B3 Also, these Japanese papers on the PC-1: http://museum.ipsj.or.jp/guide/pdf/prosym/1996prosym_008.pdf http://www.iijlab.net/~ew/pc1/mtac.html Here's a page full of links to various PC-1 resources (many in English): http://www.iijlab.net/~ew/pc1/ ...and there's Eiichi Goto's parameteron patents in the uspto.gov database (I'll leave the search to you; it's pretty easy). Cheers, Chuck

18 years

Plessey PMDD/8b - *ANY* Information available?

by hachti＠hachti.de

Hi folks, I want to get a Plessey PMDD/8b get to work on a PDP-8/e. It is not my system and I currently don't have access to it. So I would be very lucky to get every piece of information about the drive. I think it has a cartdridge. That's where my knowledge ends. And I know that there's no documentation with the machine. So I need the luck that somebody can help me out. Is that drive RK05 compatible and works with RK8-E? Could I hook a RK05 from a 11/23 to an RK8-E controller? Or are there differences? Would be great to be prepared when I arrive at the machine... Many thanks, best wishes, Philipp :-)

18 years

Morrow MD2 - Available in B.C.

by dave06a＠dunfield.com

Forwarding (after confirming with originator) an offer for two MD2 system located in BC. If interested, email me off-list and I will forward to you the email of the originator. Dave ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Subject: Morrow MD2 Date sent: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:21:34 -0700 I have two Morrow MD2 CP/M computers which I would like to get rid of. One, when last checked a couple of years ago, was still working and complete with original software, books, and Lear Siegler terminal. The other was a spare and although it used to work I borrowed a disk drive from it. And I'm not sure about the books and software for this one. I see you already have one of these, but if you are interested please let me know. I'm in BC. ------- End of forwarded message ------- -- dave06a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Collector of vintage computing equipment: http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/index.html

18 years

BBC Micro reunion TONIGHT at Science Museum in London

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

Hopefully this gets out in time for those that may be able to attend: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7303288.stm -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

18 years

S100 archive?

by dm561＠torfree.net

Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 12:06:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> Subject: Re: S100 archive? On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, M H Stein wrote: >> I wouldn't call a scan or photocopy of a manual "intellectual property." >I'd be interested in hearing more of your definition of "intellectual >property". It seems to be different from that used by the USA legal >system, in which a copyrighted manual IS an embodiment of intellectual >property, as is any reproduction, particularly scan or photocopy. ------ My point exactly; a manual, and especially a scan or copy are the embodiment, not the IP itself; I think you'd have trouble copyrighting a copy of a copyrighted work. We were talking about "attribution;" if I were to quote one of Mark Twain's many witticisms it would still be attributed to him, not me. So "attribution" of a copy to one of several other copies of the same thing seems rather meaningless except as a matter of courtesy and I don't understand why some people seem to think it's useful and important information. But, having said that, you're absolutely right: the purpose of the Internet these days is indeed largely "the free sharing and exchange of other people's intellectual property," and a large part of that IP is specifically meant to be shared and exchanged. m

18 years

NGEN B26 - CTOS floppy? Was Convergence Technologies Series 186

by Michael.Elrick＠telecom.co.nz

Hi, Your posting was from quite a while a go but I thought I'd try dropping you a line. I was looking for some information related to the B26 hardware but there's not too much. I wondered how you got on with your one? I recently picked one up but I suspect that the floppy/HD card and perhaps the HD to be faulty so I can get to the 'L' prompt where it stops. The 'L' is where is checks for a floppy drive. I have changed what I can eg cables, floppy drive, cleaned it out etc but it does not want to go further. I picked it up with a pile of manuals, software and system disks. Did you ever get yours going? Any idea where I could source spares? If all else fails do you know someone who has an interest in the B26 and BTOS or CTOS? Michael Elrick.

18 years

PDP-11/05 core questions

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Ok, I decided to dive into the PDP-11/05 a bit tonight. First I'm trying to make sure I have all the right boards for when the time comes to assemble the system. I have the two CPU boards (M7260 and M7261, actually three of the latter!), the M9970A SCL connector board, and two M930 terminators...so now I need some memory. The stamped silver tag on the side of the chassis says "11/05 SC" which I assume means it's got an 11/05S backplane in it. This assumption is supported by the board location sticker inside the card cage, which is labeled for a 16K core subsystem (H217, G114, G235, M8293). The problem is, I don't have that core subsystem...I have enough boards (in multiple copies) to put together an 8K subsystem, using H214 (or H215?), G213, and G110 boards. My question is, will this subsystem function in this backplane, or is the 11/05S backplane only compatible with the higher-density core subsystem? There's one other problem...The circuit breaker on the rear of the chassis is physically damaged. Does anyone have a spare one kicking around, or know of a currently-available replacement that I can order >from a component distributor? Thanks, -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL

18 years

Parametron/PC-1?

by mwichary＠gmail.com

Does anyone have any information (especially photos) of the Japanese Parametron/PC-1 machine, or any book/periodical sources where I can find some? Here are some links I found, but I was hoping for more: ? http://www.thocp.net/hardware/parametron.htm ? http://www.ipsj.or.jp/katsudou/museum/computer/0080_e.html ? http://www.ipsj.or.jp/katsudou/museum/computer/0180_e.html -- Marcin Wichary Sr. user experience designer, Google Graphical User Interface gallery >> www.guidebookgallery.org

18 years

Decmate

by djg＠pdp8.net

>The DECmate II (VT100 housing) has the ability to download code into >the PDP-8 through the terminal port via a special control sequence. I >haven't tried it on mine yet. > Do you know what the control sequence and data format is and/or what manual documents it? I though the sequence went VT78 (in VT52), DECmate/VT278 (in VT100), DECmate II (in big PC like case), DECmate III (in little PC like case), DECmate III+ (same)

18 years

A. C. Clarke has passed -> 2ost century visionary

by c.murray.mccullough＠gmail.com

I agree to some extent with Rick. Nevertheless I think no matter what came to past or didn't the masses have come to accept, sometimes reluctantly, the technocracy we live in today. Even those in the developing world are being engaged in the communications and technical revolution. A. C. Clarke showed us that we need not fear the unknown. Murray McCullough Message: 28 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:12:55 -0600 From: woodelf <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> Subject: Re: Aurthur C. Clarke has passed To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org> <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <47E12D77.5080206 at jetnet.ab.ca> <47E12D77.5080206 at jetnet.ab.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Rick Bensene wrote: > It is sad that he has passed on. He was a brilliant, visionary man > that, luckily for us, left a legacy of great writings that will live on. True. But if I remember authors right, 2001 never did come true. > Rick Bensene > > > .

18 years

Expanding RAM on Data I/O 29B

by mardy＠voysys.com

I have a working Data I/O 29B with a 128K RAM module which only had half of the DRAM sockets populated. From looking at the schematic, it seemed that by simply populating the remaining DRAM sockets that I would bring the module up to the full 128K. I tried that, but the 29B still only reports 64K of RAM. What did I miss? -Mardy

18 years

FTGH: SGI 14" monitor (yes, really) - Yorks UK

by listmailgoeshere＠gmail.com

Hi cctech'ers, I have an SGI 14" monitor here which needs a new home. Yes, it really is a 13W3 monitor this small. Type number is Wyse WY-851, and it has the "old style" SGI logo plus the "Silicon Graphics" wording on the front. I can ship this anywhere in the UK (except highlands, islands and NI) for 8 GBP, you pay PayPal fees. I'll ship internationally if anyone is desperate for it, but it's likely to cost you more than $100US, so you'd have to be pretty keen. If it's not gone fairly soon it'll end up going to the recycler. Please drop me a mail if you'd like it. Ed.

18 years

Pantone or RAL reference for the blue color of the IMSAI

by c_habib＠bluewin.ch

Thanks for all the interesting anectodes and tips in answer to my question. As i am restoring an Imsai, before asking my local car paint shop to repaint the cover, i was hoping to get the exact color reference from someone of our group. Just for the sake of exactitude of the restoration. It would be marvelous if Sellam Ismail would give us beside the address of his friend the reference of the paint he used, or was it a "decorative" paint far away from the IMSAI blue? Living in Switzerland sending the cover to California would be a rather expensive exercice! Incidentally yes i tend to agree that the original paint was powder coated (at least on on my cover). Kindest regards Charles

18 years

S100 archive?

by dm561＠torfree.net

Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:39:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> Subject: Re: S100 archive? >On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Alexandre Souza wrote: <snip> >> Hey people, why do you do the work? For personal promotion or to help >> people like you who needed this info sometime and didn't found it? >"The purpose of the internet is for the free sharing and exchange of other >people's intellectual property." ? <snip> I wouldn't call a scan or photocopy of a manual "intellectual property." How about: "One of the goals of the Classic Computer community is the preservation and free sharing and exchange of documentation and media related to obsolete computer systems, with the assumed or explicit permission of the original owner of the intellectual property." m

18 years

Z80 emulator in perl

by david＠cantrell.org.uk

Dunno if this will be considered on-topic or not, as it's not about real hardware - if not, my humble apologies. Last night I released a Z80 emulator written in perl to the CPAN. You can download it from: http://search.cpan.org/~dcantrell/CPU-Emulator-Z80-0.9/ and the source is in CVS on sourceforget: http://drhyde.cvs.sourceforge.net/drhyde/perlmodules/CPU-Emulator-Z80/ It emulates almost all of the "undocumented" instructions, I/O, and interrupt mode 1. I am very grateful to the author of FUSE for licencing it in such a way that I could use his comprehensive suite of tests. Now I have to write an assembler, and have the fun of writing an operating system :-) -- David Cantrell | A machine for turning tea into grumpiness On the bright side, if sendmail is tied up routing spam and pointless uknot posts, it's not waving its arse around saying "root me!" -- Peter Corlett, in uknot

18 years

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