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Looking for AT&T 3B1/UNIXPC/PC7300 software

by rescue＠hawkmountain.net

Looking for diskette images of the OS, development, tcp/ip/ethernet, diagnostic diskette, etc.... -- Curt

17 years, 6 months

"scrap" auction...

by Nick.Jarmany＠quixant.co.uk

>> Anybody recognize the board in this lot: >> >> 120314777595 >> >> transputer maybe? I hope the bidder isn't really going >> to reclaim the obvious "pounds" of gold on it. > >The logo on top of each post looks like the Fairchild logo. The numbers >suggest a date of 1976, but it looks *very* high tech for something of that >vintage. > >Alexis. I'm certainly no expert on mainframes, but I do recognise a Fujitsu logo when I see one. So, my money is on this being a board out of a Fujitsu mainframe computer. Chips like that, with cooling towers etc.... Maybe ECL logic? I remember many years ago visiting Fujitsu's main development location. The whole of the basement was constructed as a museum of all Fujitsu major products over the years, including tons of computer stuff. I remember marvelling at PCBs with 20+ signal layers and integral fluid cooling etc, in the days when most PCBs were only double sided or 4 layers at best. Fascinating stuff! I suspect the winner of the auction has got himself something that would have cost major $$$ when new. Nick Jarmany

17 years, 6 months

Seeking SunOS 4.1.4

by jeffj＠panix.com

replying to > From: Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> > Subject: Re: Seeking SunOS 4.1.4 A friend had a beowulf cluster of IPXs but all running BSD. > I share your IPX affinity. I had one on my desk for a very long > time, when they were state of the art. Wonderful little machine. > And amazingly zippy, from a time when software wasn't so poorly- > written and bloated. I too was very satisfied with the Sun IPX when it was new, particularly with Sun's Answerbook (far better than any other online manual system I used at that time) and programmer's workbench development system. I got to know and like the S-Bus when writing a device driver for an SDLC card. I still remember the phonecall requesting assistance with my device driver. It wouldn't work on the Sun 4m processor. It turns out the processor delays bus writes in order to share the bus with other processors, so I had to add a magic .asm spell to flush the writes. I would've figured that mapping the I/O registers into the memory map would've implied write-thru. -- jeffj

17 years, 6 months

Tektronix 4108 terminal?

by legalize＠xmission.com

Hi, I recently got a Tektronix 4170 and terminal from ebay. The terminal is a 4108, which I can't find in the 1985 catalog that introduces the 4170. The next catalog I have is 1989 and that lists no 41xx products. The enclosure for the terminal is very similar to a 4105, except that the finish is black and not that green-gray that is on most Tektronix gear of the period. The 4105 has a small cover on the back where you can add ROM to the terminal to enhance its functions. In this 4108, there is a cover in a similar area of the case, but it covers a set of 4 expansion slots. In my terminal, two of the slots are occupied. One looks to be memory and the other looks to be control. Had the tektronix terminal "mainframe" evolved by this time to be a substrate into which processing and memory cards were inserted to round out the system? I haven't opened the monitor case to look at it in detail. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

17 years, 6 months

"scrap" aution...

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> 120314777595 Looks like Amdahl 470 style packaging.

17 years, 6 months

"scrap" auction...

by tonym＠compusource.net

>-----Original Message----- >From: Paxton Hoag innfoclassics at gmail.com >Sent 10/13/2008 4:23:32 PM >To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk at classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: "scrap" auction... > > Anybody recognize the board in this lot: > > [ebay item #] 120314777595 > Question of the day: Why is it listed under "Harley-Davidson" collectibles ?

17 years, 6 months

Need help with dead 11/23+, FIXED :)

by tiggerlasv＠aim.com

2048KW Start? That must be a really old set of proms on that 11/23+ The newer 11/23+ proms will give you a 9-step memory test, and a much more interactive menu. Or do you have an MXV11 or BDV11 that you're using instead of the on-board boot proms? T

17 years, 6 months

Looking for AT&T 3B1/UNIXPC/PC7300 software

by mtapley＠swri.edu

At 1:59 -0500 10/10/08, Curt wrote: >Looking for diskette images of the OS, development, >tcp/ip/ethernet, diagnostic diskette, etc.... > >-- Curt I have one, with a fair amount of stuff on its hard drive. It's buried and I won't be able to get to it for at least a month, probably after Christmas. Please ping me again in December, and I'll try to bump it up the priority. I'm going to feel very stupid if the hard drive won't come up when I get to it... -- - Mark 210-379-4635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Asteroids headed toward planets inhabited by beings that don't have technology adequate to stop them: Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.

17 years, 6 months

Unusual software carriers. (Was :Vinyl Data- Classic Computers )

by RodSmallwood＠mail.ediconsulting.co.uk

I remember taking the first Apple Lisa in the UK to be demonstrated on Tomorrows World. They had me in the studio as the program went out live. I sat on an unused display block about three feet off camera in case of problems. Presenters: Kiren Prendeville (photographic memory), Maggie Philbin (very nervous), Judith Hann( Nice lady - brought me a coffee!!) Rod Smallwood -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Pete Turnbull Sent: 08 October 2008 08:22 To: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Unusual software carriers. (Was :Vinyl Data- Classic Computers ) On 08/10/2008 01:47, Andrew Burton wrote: > I remember Tomorrows World (and various presenters... Philippa > Forrester, Judith someone, Howard Stableford etc.) and having various > things demonstrated on it. Judith Hann. I don't remember Philippa Forrester being on it but I do remember Maggie Philbin. Perhaps the flashing-square software was in the earlier era of Raymond Baxter and James Burke (which I also remember). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

17 years, 6 months

Mona Lisa

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> Does anyone here have the source code for the program (FORTRAN?) which > produced the large Mona Lisa printout on the 1403? I may have it on a couple of tapes with line printer art that have been given to me. The one I'm looking for is the one with Spock holding a model of the Enterprise...

17 years, 6 months

Need help with dead 11/23+, FIXED :)

by charlesmorris800＠centurytel.net

I found the table to interpret the LEDs, buried around page 256 of the KDF11-BA manual. It told me that 0011 is: waiting for SLU Transmit. Odd, since there's no handshaking on the console lines :) That pointed me immediately to the console serial port, since I already knew the VT220 and cable were working via the loopback test. It didn't take long to discover (with my trusty Tek 545) that there was no clock on either UART in transmit or receive. The 5.0688 MHz oscillator was working (surprisingly - I figured the recent move had broken the crystal), and its signal appeared normal at jumper J21/20. But there was barely a wiggle on the two gates that it connected to. Poor continuity also, which improved when pushing sideways on wirewrap pin J21. Close visual inspection with bright light and magnifying glass didn't show much. I resoldered the pins and voila - RUN light on, startup message on terminal, booted from DL0: etc. So it was just a bad factory solder joint from the 1980's... Sorry I panicked :) -Charles

17 years, 6 months

form feed tapes on printers (was Re: Mona Lisa)

by jeffj＠panix.com

replying to: > From: Tom Watson <tsw-cc at johana.com> > Subject: Re: form feed tapes on printers (was Re: Mona Lisa) >> Probably IBM--maybe 1620 SPS II printer mnemonics? > Why right you are. For those of you who aren't reading at home, > these mnemonics mean: > SPIM: Space immediate (1-3 lines) > SKIP: Skip immediate (to carriage control channel) > SKAP: Skip after printing (carriage control) > SPAP: Space after printing (1-3 lines) I can't top that, my Autocoder mnemonics page is out of reach :-( > All of these were control instructions that referenced the printer > (unit #9). The carriage control tape was a standard 12 channel one > (IBM used them on LOTS of printers like 407's and 1403's). And re-used the carriage mechanisms in later machines. The tractor feed and carriage control tape from the 1132 printer was recycled from earlier accounting machines. > You could access any one of the 12 channels. > The 1620 had two indicators for "summary line" (channel 9) > and "end of printable page" (channel 12), > which if you have a hard copy impact printer are probably still there. RPG has program flags triggered by that for subtotals, totals, page footers, etc. They were triggered virtually if the printer was not real-time. I don't recall the model number, but the IBM RJE terminal my high school had around 1976 didn't have a carriage control tape but was programmed with perhaps 4 "jobs" that defined the page size, carriage control stops, horizontal tabs, etc. It was a nice sit-down console with keyboard, chain printer and cabinet on the left with a 8" floppy drive. > Yes, if you skipped to a channel that WASN'T punched, > you fed lots of paper, which is why (if you were smart) > you punched the unused channels on the same line > as the "end of paper" channel (12). I punched them all for top of page. Sigh, I wish I had taken photos of my college's IBM 1130s and all the little things like the bottle of genuine IBM mucilage for gluing the carriage control tape into a loop. I still have a pad of IBM forms for planning printouts, with the carriage control tape along the edge to indicate where to punch the holes. > Oh, standard Fortran: > blank, single space; 1, top of form; 0, double space; > +, overprint (not supported everywhere). and - for triple space. It took me a while to realize that there was nothing magic about the first character as carriage control, so instead of format (" ","and more") I evolved to format (" and more") > One of these days I'll dig out the computer pic I made back > in the late 60's using a video camera connected to an 1130. > 16 levels of gray, and 200x160 or so resolution. Cool for the day! Wow! How was that interfaced? I'm trying to find ANYONE who modded their 1130s, particularly with a SAC (storage access channel) interface. -- jeffj

17 years, 6 months

Looking for AT&T 3B1/UNIXPC/PC7300 software

by labomb_s＠yahoo.com

> Seems odd - if other formats commonly used on this machine use > standard enough encoding, headers and marks for a PC controller > to read, I wonder why they went with a different format for the > 8-sector variety. Is the 8-sector type older? (ie: perhaps the > changed to a more standard format somewhere along the way?) > It's been many years since I've used my 3b1's, but I seem to recall that while some of the distribution disks are indeed formatted (and I believe that the 3b1 used a 10 sector-per-track format) and can be mounted as per usual, I think that most of the factory distribution disks actually contained raw data created by the Unix cpio utility. These diskettes are essentially a backup set, and cpio treated the drive as a raw character device. Again it's been years, but I don't even recall having to format the disks prior to using cpio to back up data... Scott

17 years, 6 months

some odds and ends to get rid of

by dgahling＠hotmail.com

I have some more stuff I need to clear out. there' s the PDP-11 no one has asked for yet, And I just found an old Xyplex switch *8 slot* I believe, loaded. was working last I checked it (many years ago), has BGP also and some others: cisco 1721 (2 of these) cisco 2501 cisco 2505 I'm moving in a few weeks and they need to be gone by then. In in scarbough (part of Toronto, Canada) if I get no response, it's all going to the scrap dealer. Dan. _________________________________________________________________

17 years, 6 months

Looking for AT&T 3B1/UNIXPC/PC7300 software

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> David, do you know whether ImageDisk will image them correctly? It appears ImageDisk doesn't work with 8 sector ones. The 3.51 utilities disks were copied OK with ImageDisk, except for the VDI disk, which apparently is 8 sector.

17 years, 6 months

dec (digital) wirewrap module sockets (greenblocks)

by pjhurst46＠hotmail.com

Are DEC Greenblocks (wirewrap module sockets H803 or similar) available from any source -- Besides the obvious route of unwrapping an existing backplane which is tedious and destroys the device. _________________________________________________________________ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn ?10 hidden secrets? from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!5…

17 years, 6 months

Seeking SunOS 4.1.4

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

This is my periodic query for original install media for SunOS 4.1.4. I have a special affinity for the Sun IPX and I'd like to get mine working with SunOS. By the way, has anyone here successfully attached an LCD monitor to an older Sun? -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

17 years, 6 months

Looking for WD2010 chip

by rescue＠hawkmountain.net

Anyone have one available ? -- Curt

17 years, 6 months

USENET via TV broadcast

by jeffj＠panix.com

> In the early 80s, I think there were some very low-speed data stream > systems via teletext ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletext ) > that could send the stream out RS-232. Is my memory correct? Perhaps. In the mid 80s, many technologies were attempted with similar (and often re-used) names 1) Reading the wiki entry, I was confusing Teletext with "Teletex" and perhaps something else http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletex I remember entering a contest, suggesting how a computer interface to the TV subtitles could allow linking things together (such as capturing phone numbers, URL, etc). My TV /still/ has no PC interface: USB or otherwise. (I think Sega's Dreamcast system received games via the cable TV channel). I remember attending trade shows in the late 80s where "smart phones" (desk sets with tiny terminals) and Teletex were touted as "the next big thing". Compared to Sears/IBM Prodigy, perhaps, but nothing compared to the Internet with hypertext browsing, multimedia and other new formats. In a way, today's cellular phones have replaced the landline "smart phones" since they allow texting and internet access. But here in the USA, teletext was just a terminal standard for low-res graphics, and it still used a modem via phone lines. The surplus terminals were often from France (obvious from the keyboard) since it was wildly popular there. 2) I'm unsure if it used the same technology as today's DSL, but AT&T used to offer employees "CO-LAN": piggybacking a dedicated serial line over the existing phone line. 3) Google finds nothing, but I remember project "Stargate" where USENET newsgroups were transmitted during the vertical blanking interval of the TV broadcast. I forgot if that was via satellite or cable.

17 years, 6 months

Did anyone archive the old Everex FTP before it went down?

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

In one of the forums I belong to someone is looking for the EISA configuration files and drivers for a Everex Step VL/E type 18210 EISA motherboard (EISA config. utility !EVX1698.CFG). I figured that company was popular in the early 90's and somebody might have mirrored the FTP here (we are all packrats I would think). Thanks TZ P.S. I wish archive.org would do FTP sites as well as HTTP.

17 years, 6 months

Anyone know of a 1970s-style dot matrix "computer photo" generator/converter?

by aek＠bitsavers.org

http://aa-project.sourceforge.net/

17 years, 6 months

form feed tapes on printers (was Re: Mona Lisa)

by tsw-cc＠johana.com

On 08 Oct 2008 22:28:12, Chuck Guzis wrote: >On 9 Oct 2008 at 1:12, Dennis Boone wrote: > >> > Some funny words just came into my head in >connection with printers: >> > SPIM, SKIP, SKAP, SPAP. Can't remember the system >or language they >> > were associated with--although I'm certain it wasn't >CDC. > >No, I don't think so. Probably IBM--maybe 1620 SPS II >printer >mnemonics? > >Cheers, >Chuck > Why right you are. For those of you who aren't reading at home, these mnemonics mean: SPIM: Space immediate (1-3 lines) SKIP: Skip immediate (to carriage control channel) SKAP: Skip after printing (carriage control) SPAP: Space after printing (1-3 lines) All of these were control instructions that referenced the printer (unit #9). The carriage control tape was a standard 12 channel one (IBM used them on LOTS of printers like 407's and 1403's). You could access any one of the 12 channels. The 1620 had two indicators for "summary line" (channel 9) and "end of printable page" (channel 12), which if you have a hard copy impact printer are probably still there. Yes, if you skipped to a channel that WASN'T punched, you fed lots of paper, which is why (if you were smart) you punched the unused channels on the same line as the "end of paper" channel (12). Oh, standard Fortran: blank, single space; 1, top of form; 0, double space; +, overprint (not supported everywhere). Feel free to consult your friendly Unix man page for the program 'asa' for further reference. One of these days I'll dig out the computer pic I made back in the late 60's using a video camera connected to an 1130. 16 levels of gray, and 200x160 or so resolution. Cool for the day!

17 years, 6 months

Mona Lisa

by roger.holmes＠microspot.co.uk

> From: Mike Loewen <mloewen at cpumagic.scol.pa.us> > > > Does anyone here have the source code for the program (FORTRAN?) > which > produced the large Mona Lisa printout on the 1403? The one I > remember had > 3 or 4 printouts taped together. Have any of the card decks survived? I don't have it in Fortran nor for IBM but I think I have a deck of cards for my ICT 1301 which produces a two or three page printout, printing across the perforations. At the moment, I don't have a 100% working card reader and I'm in the process of selling my spare 1301 so all my 'spare' time is used up trying to put back together a 5 ton jig- saw I dismantled over 30 years ago. At least I have an assembled one for reference but I keep finding differences between the two machines, one being the first one to leave the factory and the other probably being one of the last. I hope to make all my 1301 software, including the Mona Lisa, Snoopy, the lady on a stool etc available online sometime together with some of my many manuals and a simulator which will run on a Mac. Will need to find someone to host the archive in perpituity, maybe BitSavers would be willing to do it, but I haven't got the data off the Ampex ten track tapes yet. Roger Holmes ICT 1301 S/N 006 and a cut and shut of 075 and 159.

17 years, 6 months

NEC SX-4B on Ebay

by mtapley＠swri.edu

At 8:50 -0500 10/9/08, Chris M wrote: >But what are the practical applications that this thing could be set >to use from the get-go? 1.) Wrong group to ask that question. 1.5 tonne paperweights are OK here, if the kewl factor is high enough. One that says "supercomputer" on the side is OK on kewl factor. (But it sounds like Dave actually has an answer, which is even better.) 2.) http://www.distributed.net/ Drool! (I still want to get a Mac OS 6.0.8 client going so I can put my Mac Plus on the stats chart...then on to the Color Computer and NitrOS9! :-) ) -- - Mark 210-379-4635 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Large Asteroids headed toward planets inhabited by beings that don't have technology adequate to stop them: Think of it as Evolution in Fast-Forward.

17 years, 6 months

Stuff I need rid of, ASAP...

by gordonjcp＠gjcp.net

DEC LA-36 and some spare ribbons Tektronix Phaser 560 colour laser printer Two not-entirely-working Superbrains a Sanyo CP/M-86 machine (MBC-4050? possibly) In Glasgow I can hang onto them for a couple of days, but not much more than that. Gordon

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