- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by dastar＠wco.com

You know, I used to be guilty of this same thing, and feel like a total putz for having to say this, but John, it is not necessary to report to us every single item you pick up. We all get stuff and, quite frankly, if everyone here simply posted what they found and didn't actually talk about it, you'd have one HELL of a boring discussion. So, thanks but no thanks for the updates. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details! On Wed, 31 Dec 1969, John R. Keys Jr. wrote: > Well today made up for a slow week, got the following items: > Tandy 1400 LT > 2-IBM 8573 386 portables one works the other is for parts > NCR model 1002-6000 computer > HP 83 and a 85 > Corona luggable model PPC-21 > Informer model 207 with carrying case > Fluke 8088 interface POD model 900A-8088 > Logical QUV-T8 UV EPROM ERASER > Black Bell & Howell apple > Sun 4/110 > Atari XE system > SuperBrain II QD > CPT notebook model OC 1000 008 anyone have info on this one ???? > IBM 5322 with two 8" floppies built-in > IBM 3274-31C with 8" diskettes sofeware > Paper tape for PDP8 box says MAG TAPE ROUTINES (Diagnostic) and other paper > tape for the PDP8 and about 10 manuals. > GTEK model 7128 EPROM Programmer. > > It was a good rescue day. Keep computing !! > >

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Sphere papers gone

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<I am not saying that the Sphere papers are of real historical significance <- the company simply did not last very long, and in my opinion, was a <producer of junk - but anything Sphere is very rare. Sphere was an example of some of the shadier companies, all flash and very little fire. At the time I'd wondered if they had shipped anything at all. In all I think they represented less than a 8month piece of the industry that had some con artists as well as serious vendors. <> I guess it's time for one of those questions I still don't have a good <> answer for. Where the foo has all the SS-50 stuff gone? Or is it still <> hiding? Or is it just not here in Sillycon Valley? SS50 was fairly popular and tended to build up into solid systems. The people that used them were not hardware hacks and tended more towards software and applications for their box. I have no idea where they went save for if I tripped over one I'd keep it as they were good machines. <I have seen very little as well. That says something, as the boards tend <to really stick out in the crowd. They never reached the popularity of the <S-100 stuff, and was probably made in quantities much smaller than just <about every other bus. I don't know. S100 was bigger, no question. SS50 was actually better early on. The problem with SS50 generally was it was 6800 cpu and that was not fast nor was it easy to plug non motorola cpus in to the bus. SS50 went >from 6800 to 6809 and prety much died there. the 6502 and the 68k were two others that would interface to that bus(more or less) but any of the 8080/8085/z80/8088 types had bus timing and signals that were radically different. S100 was less tied to the CPU despite it originating with 8080. Early on 6800 cpu was easy to get into as Moto had the big book for $25 and it had every bit of hardware and software info you could want. It's limitation was the fastest 6800 was 2mhz and you either liked it or didn't. Also I feel motos lack of timly follow on in the form of faster 6800s and far later 6809 and later still 68000 didn't help. Some of the AMI SBCs were pretty nice and the 6800 market had a greater selection of SBCs at attractive prices including the moto 6800d1/d2 kits. The other s100 cpus of the time were 9900, T-11(marinechip systems s100 pdp-11), 1802, sc/mp(1&II), Alpha micro(wd13 chipset), 6809, 68008/68000, 8088/6, 80188/6, 80286, z8000, NS16016(32032). I've also seen 8049, 8051 and 2900 bit slice used for s100 cpus. This diversity kept s100 going longer and offered choices that could please those that asprired to one cpu over another. Also other popular machines had companies offering s100 adators, KIM, TRS80 being two I remember. It backed up the idea that no one manufacturer could supply the diverse demand for interfaces to their systems that having a common bus(s100) could supply. I may add that S100 went beyond cpu, memory, serial, parallel and disks. The availability of prom/eprom/pal programmers, A/D, D/A, opto and relay I/Os, Voice, display, networks was extensive. This al la carte offering made pure one manufacturer s100 systems rare as multiple vendor systems integration was common. I may add you also had the <at least> three commercial busses STD(z80), multibus intel processors(and z80) and VME bus which was motorola cpus. It highlights the fundemental differences between the motorola and intel designs. The 6502 is fundamentally motorola interface and bus FYI. The Apple by default also created an aftermarket bus standard for the slots it had. Other busses that lasted a moment: Altair 680 (6800 based), digital group, ti99/4a expansion. There were others I'm sure. Allison

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VAX Unix Question + Thanks

by rcini＠classic.msn.com

Thanks to all who provided info on the Sun 3/50. I can't wait to get it working. I have another question. I finally got a working replacement RD52 drive for my uVAX. The drive passes all tests that I run on it, and was in service previously. Now, what steps do I need to take to get it to be seen by Unix? I tried to "mount" it, but I keep getting some bizarre error that I can't remember at this time. TIA! Rich Cini/WUGNET rcini(a)msn.com ClubWin! charter member (6) MCP Windows 95 and Windows Networking

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Help needed

by CharlesII＠nwohio.nwohio.com

I have an old NCR machine that I would like to get up and running. While I have everything intact what I really need is some way of interfacing it. There are numerous amounts of low density DB15 ports that I think have nothing to do with Ethernet since the spot that is labeled Ethernet is covered up with nothing behind the cover. What can I use to find out what is on this thing. The numbers on the data sticker are: class 3470-MSTD model 0202 serial 36-18259367 tracer 36-002591 Any ideas? I would also like to know where I can find a power supply for an Amiga A500. Charles Oblender

28 years, 6 months

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finally found: Your Computer

by mhop＠mail.snip.net

I'm overwhelmed at how many want this computer. I just wanted to let you all know that I am still trying to decide who gets it, and I'm slow at making decisions like that, so hang on guys. mhop(a)snip.net

28 years, 6 months

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Temple Univ. haul

by rcini＠classic.msn.com

Well, I made another trip to Temple Univ. this weekend to pick-up more equipment. Alas, I did not get to the "records room" again because my contact was gone for the weekend and none of his co-workers knew where the file cabinets were. Oh well, I'll go back in December. Here's what I did get, though: 2-RD52 drives for the uVAX A copy of VisiCalc for the PC, version 1.2 A Sun 3/50 workstation (I need help with this one). I also saw a Chinese knock-off of an Apple II. Nothing on it said Apple, but the board was identical. It had a cheap plastic case and a metal base plate. I stashed it, so maybe I'll get it when I go down next. Regarding the Sun machine, it's a workstation-style case with a 17" (or 19"??) monitor attached to a base. It has an Ethernet port, 2 serial ports, and a SCSI port. The monitor has a DB9 connection, and the keyboard is a DB15. Unfortunately, there was no keyboard/mouse and no monitor cable. Can anyone help me out with these parts? More to come... Rich Cini/WUGNET rcini(a)msn.com ClubWin! charter member (6) MCP Windows 95 and Windows Networking

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Sphere papers gone

by william＠ans.net

Those two M6800 Programmers Reference Cards from Sphere that I posted here a week or so back are now spoken for. Apparently there is not much call for ancient M6800 micro stuff, as I only got one response. I suppose if they were from the 8080 side of the fence, things would be different. William Donzelli william(a)ans.net

28 years, 6 months

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The Seattle Thrift Store Scene

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 97-10-04 01:07:53 EDT, you write: << On Fri, 3 Oct 1997, Glenn Roberts wrote: > curious if you noticed any difference between "brand name thrift" (e.g. > Salvation Army & Goodwill) vs. small time shops? others here have > suggested that the latter is where all the "good stuff" is to be found. >> the small time shops here in nc don't have much, although i did find an apple rgb monitor for a gs there. there's one goodwill close to me that used to get plenty of old computers there, and even recent items, like an ncr ps/2 clone and vga monitor for$30! they usually priced computers and monitors there for $10 each, but they've raised the prices, probably because i'd go in there every week and buy what i found interesting. they had a ps2 8580 in there a while back for $75! i think some idiot actually bought it... david

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finally found: Your Computer

by thedm＠sunflower.com

I'll take it ---------- > From: mhop <mhop(a)mail.snip.net> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: finally found: Your Computer > Date: Friday, October 03, 1997 8:30 PM > > A long time ago I told everyone here that I had a computer in my closet > somewhere, and someone asked me to let them know when I found it. > > "Your Computer" > with sound and music > for family, business, educational and entertainment use > > It's rubber keybad seems identical to the Timex Sinclair, well, not that black > Sinclair with the membrane keyboard, but the other one. It's housed in white > plastic, green rubber keys and... > > Japaneese intructions - except for the BASic listed programs inside. > > Z80A CPU > Expandable to 16k ram or 32 k ram > 42 Keys Keyboard > programmable speaker output > Direct drive a thermal printer > 24 rows by 32 characters video display using either home tv or monitor > 22 graphic symbol available > Reverse video characters available > Built in cassette interface (I don't know *what this might be..) > High resolution graphics capability > Automatic repeat on space bar insert, delete and cursor control keys > Programmable slow mode and fast mode > > .. and least that is what is says on the box. It's in its original box and > styrophome. > > Who wants it? It'll cost you the postage to send it. I live in Somerdale, > NJ. > > mhop(a)snip.net

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ATARI 1450XLD

by mhop＠mail.snip.net

> HELP! HELP! > Looking for a 1450XLD! > > Mike It will be hard to find. I think only a few prototypes were made by Atari.

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finally found: Your Computer

by mhop＠mail.snip.net

A long time ago I told everyone here that I had a computer in my closet somewhere, and someone asked me to let them know when I found it. "Your Computer" with sound and music for family, business, educational and entertainment use It's rubber keybad seems identical to the Timex Sinclair, well, not that black Sinclair with the membrane keyboard, but the other one. It's housed in white plastic, green rubber keys and... Japaneese intructions - except for the BASic listed programs inside. Z80A CPU Expandable to 16k ram or 32 k ram 42 Keys Keyboard programmable speaker output Direct drive a thermal printer 24 rows by 32 characters video display using either home tv or monitor 22 graphic symbol available Reverse video characters available Built in cassette interface (I don't know *what this might be..) High resolution graphics capability Automatic repeat on space bar insert, delete and cursor control keys Programmable slow mode and fast mode .. and least that is what is says on the box. It's in its original box and styrophome. Who wants it? It'll cost you the postage to send it. I live in Somerdale, NJ. mhop(a)snip.net

28 years, 6 months

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IBM powerstation, the answer here!

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

I asked one of the old IBMers at work what this powerstation 550e i had was. turns out it is indeed part of the RISC6000 family. I guess what i have is just a workstation that ran batch jobs or something like that, not too useful by itself it seems. I presume it runs/ran AIX. it was difficult to find any info it. web search didnt bring up anything, and 800-IBM-SERV handles the RISC6K family, but they referred me elsewhere for this 550e, since they didnt know what it was. it only cost $5, and it is an interesting addtion to my ever growing esoteric collection of ibm machines. now, if i could just get this powerstation to run with my PC RT... david

28 years, 6 months

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The Seattle Thrift Store Scene

by jrbrady＠delphi.com

Greetings All, I've been making the rounds of Seattle-area thrift stores. Not much CP/M stuff, mostly PC compatible. Found several XT's with hard drives and full of cards for $5 each. Most ISA boards such as Mono, serial, parallel go for $1. B&W and CGA monitors go for $3-10. 5-1/4" DSDD floppy drives go for around $2 each. There's one store that has a Televideo system for $60. Rather steep, but they have a 1/2 price sale Sunday and I'll probably grab it then - good companion to the 803H in my collection. There's a huge IBM Selectric Memory typewriter for $10, which I'll also grab at the 1/2 price sale. I recently found two Kaypro-II's for $5 each. Not much Apple hardware. How does this compare to thrift stores in other areas of the country? Regards, Jason Brady jrbrady(a)delphi.com Seattle, WA

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YES!!!

by dastar＠crl.com

I AM FINALLY FREE FROM crl, THE PIMPLE ON THE ASS OF THE INTERNET! My new primary e-mail address is dastar(a)wco.com. Please do not ever even consider to consider using crl.com or I will find you and kill you to save you from the misery. I can also be e-mailed at dastar(a)siconic.com. All mail to dastar(a)crl.com will be forwarded automatically, but please update your address books. Thank you. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

28 years, 6 months

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DISTRIBUTED SYSTEMS CQ2010.

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

That's what that card was. What is it? Anyone know?

28 years, 6 months

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What is a Control Data QC2010?

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

It's a Qbus or Unibus quad-height module with what looks like a SCSI connector on it. Anyone know what it is? The number may be wrong, it may be 1020.

28 years, 6 months

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Need Apple IIGS software

by manney＠nwohio.com

A church with which I work was recently given an Apple IIGS (with "Woz" signature on the front, I notice). Does anyone have any children's educational software for Apple that he/she would be willing to donate or sell cheaply? You can get tax credit if you want. Please e-mail me -- manney(a)nwohio.com -- or contact the church directly: Pastor Leo Stewart Union Avenue Alliance Church 12700 Union Ave. Cleveland OH 44104 (216) 752-6184 Thanks -- you'll be doing inner city kids a great favor. P Manney "Un sot trouve toujours un plus sot qui l'admire."

28 years, 6 months

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CC> Bill Whitson operates this list

by dastar＠crl.com

I have no idea why people think I am the list-op of classiccmp, and I don't know how popular this opinion is, but I am, in fact, NOT the list-op. Bill Whitson is and any list related questions should go to him. This is the second time I've received a list related request. Go figure. Please update the cell in your brain which stores this information. Thank you. Now someone help this poor guy. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 04:35:10 -0500 From: Mark W Kuefel <kuefel(a)sky.net> To: dastar(a)crl.com Subject: A DIRECT PLEA TO ISMAIL FOR HELP (and kuefel somehow finds the shift key, details below) Sam I know this is pretty stupid but I need your help if possible. The classic computer list is generating far too many messages in the firehose mode for me to possibly keep up with. I'd like to go to digest, if available or, if necessary, unsubscribe for a while (I've been ill lately and sometimes lack the energy to even log in.) Now the stupid problem. I seem to have "misplaced" my subscriber info. I know that's dumb and, generally, I'm pretty good at keeping the email message as well as a hardcopy printout. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

28 years, 6 months

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Slow day

by FAIAZMC＠hsd.utc.com

There's still plenty of them around. Most companies that had a S/36 have upgraded to its replacement, the A/S 400. ---------- From: John R. Keys Jr. To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: Slow day Date: Wednesday, December 31, 1969 7:00PM Found a HP vectra QS/16 complete monitor,kb, and computer it will go into storage for now. Only other find today was 5 plastic bags at a thrift with S/36 System Support Programs, RPG, COBOL, utilities, and microcode from 1983 there a total of 45 - 8" diskettes. Each bag was $1.40 plus tax. Now were do I find a S/36. Keep computing!

28 years, 6 months

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Person needs help fixing 8" PerSci

by dlw＠neosoft.com

I just passing this along, can anyone help him repair his drives? Reply to him, Loufer(a)aol.com, not me. Thanks. ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:24:51 -0700 To: dlw(a)neosoft.com From: Loufer(a)aol.com Subject: http://www.neosoft.com/~dlw/comp/comphave.htmlCromemco Z2D Dave, I have an entire Cromemco Z2D system that I purchased at an auction several years ago. It was completely disassembled, and was noted as 'computer junk' and sold as a lot. Assembled, it had two monitors, two 5-1/4 drives, two 8" (wood cabinet) drives and many extra S100 cards. There's an analog-digital IO card, 3 64K mem, 6 16K mem, Dazzler (still new and unassembled), set of joysticks, and other misc hardware. Although I'm not interested in selling it (it WAS my first computer after all), but I sure could use some help finding someone to repair one of the paired 8 inch PerSci drives. Michael --------------- End of Forwarded Message ----------- ----- David Williams - Computer Packrat dlw(a)neosoft.com http://www.neosoft.com/~dlw

28 years, 6 months

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HP 9100 programming questions

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Tony Duell <ard(a)odin.phy.bris.ac.uk> wrote: > Have you tried pulling out the quick-ref card at the front? Assuming it's > still there (which it should be - it's not easy to remove), it will list > all the programming instructions. I completely missed this. Thanks for pointing it out. <gulp> I think I am going to have to turn in my Master of the Obvious card for this. > I think so. The idea of -ve program steps seems to be in the back of my > mind, but that may have been fast gotos (like the 67, etc) or something. Yes. There are two banks of memory on the 9100B, + and -. > No. The opcodes aren't really related to the key layout IIRC. They are > listed on that pull-out card, though. Yes they are. > > Can I use the STEP PRGM key to single-step forward non-destructively > > in program mode? How can I move backward, or to a given location in > > program mode? > > I think so, but could somebody else confirm this before you wipe you're > program... It's on the quick-ref card. This works as I expected. If I want to go back or go to an absolute location, I have to switch to RUN mode and do a GOTO from there, then switch back to PROGRAM mode. -Frank McConnell

28 years, 6 months

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HP 9100 programming questions

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Howdy, I am fooling with a 9100B calculator that used to be on exhibit, I'm guessing in the electronics museum that used to be at Foothill College. Toward that end it was hacked: a plexiglas strip was screwed to it above the switches, with cutouts for the switch handles that only let you move the power switch -- program/run, fixed/floating, and degrees/radians were all stuck on run, fixed, radians respectively. Well, I've removed that because I want to find out what if any programs were in its memory (core remembers things long after they're better forgotten), and so I want to flip the program/run switch over to PROGRAM. But I'm a little confused about the 9100's program mode, and unfortunately I don't have the manuals handy. When I flip the switch to PROGRAM, the display changes to what I am guessing is this: <step> <instruction> <Y mantissa> <Y exponent> <X mantissa> <X exponent> <step> seems to be represented as <hex digit>.<hex digit>. True? (And does this mean there are only 256 program steps?) Are <instruction> values 00-09 the keypad switches 0-9, and others in <column><row> form? And if so, where's <0><0> for the <column><row> form? Can I use the STEP PRGM key to single-step forward non-destructively in program mode? How can I move backward, or to a given location in program mode? Can y'all tell I'm spoiled rotten from having learned programmable calculators about 15 years later? -Frank McConnell

28 years, 6 months

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Apple II hard drive??

by bpvh＠primenet.com

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28 years, 6 months

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DEC-10 comparative power

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

About how fast is a DECsystem-ten compared to a Pentium or something? A friend and I got into a "whose computer is faster" fight. I have the 11/23, he has a Vaxserver 3100. I have the 44, he has his Pentium/something.(133 or 150?). I have a shell into a DEC-10, does that beat him, or do I lose? (I think it does, does anyone have the numbers?)

28 years, 6 months

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HP-150 disks...

by manney＠nwohio.com

If any is a DOS disk, there was a post recently... bcumming(a)mail.island.net wants DOS 3.2 or might be interested in some disks. manney >I just picked up 34 'Hewlett Packard 150' diskettes; except for one >they are all user labeled (Well I THINK they are all HP-150 disks, the >disk type and labeling are very similar.) I am not certain if the 150 >is in the "Classic" arena but I am assuming so by a pic I found on the >web, if not sorry on printing an off-topic post. > > So, if there is anyone here that is interested in 34 assorted HP-150 >disks, lemme know. > > Larry Anderson >-- >-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > Visit our web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/ >Call our BBS (Silicon Realms BBS 300-2400 baud) at: (209) 754-1363 >-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > >

28 years, 6 months

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Advanced Integration Research Motherboard

by manney＠nwohio.com

Normally, 486 motherboards are set entirely in the CMOS setup program. Jumpers, etc. typically control speed and processor type. Are you having trouble getting it to come up? manney(a)nwohio.com >I have a 486lc motherboard and need to know about any of the settings >(i.e. jumpers and dip switch) and what the memory config is. thanks

28 years, 6 months

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New update on Comprehensive Computer Catalogue

by hans1＠filan00.grenoble.hp.com

Today I place the new version of the CCC online. Now listing 3806 computers. In this revision I have set up the infra structure to link each system to its own page. The intent is to provide information and links for each system. See the entry for the Sperry SPEEDAC computer. BTW anyone heard of the ULTRAMAC computer built in the mid fifties? -- Hans B. Pufal : <mailto:hansp@digiweb.com> Comprehensive Computer Catalogue : <http://www.digiweb.com/~hansp/ccc/> _-_-__-___--_-____-_--_-_-____--_---_-_---_--__--_--_--____---_--_--__--_

28 years, 6 months

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HP-150 disks...

by adam＠merlin.net.au

>It could make "Classic" tenuously on either one and, given both, has NO >problem. Now -- what I keep wondering about is an Atari Portfolio (1989).... I have added it to my web site, based on a) being obsolete, b) being a new concept for its time (first MS-DOS palmtop?), and, of course, c) being really keen. Anyway, 1989 is even starting to get old in computing terms. Adam.

28 years, 6 months

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[Fwd: Paper tape reader in Seattle anyone?]

by hans1＠filan00.grenoble.hp.com

Found on Usenet, can anyone help out? -- Hans B. Pufal : <mailto:hansp@digiweb.com> Comprehensive Computer Catalogue : <http://www.digiweb.com/~hansp/ccc/> _-_-__-___--_-____-_--_-_-____--_---_-_---_--__--_--_--____---_--_--__--_

28 years, 6 months

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HP-150 disks...

by engine＠chac.org

At 19:38 10/1/97 -0800, you wrote: >....I am not certain if the 150 >is in the "Classic" arena but I am assuming so by a pic I found on the >web, if not sorry on printing an off-topic post. The HP-150 is: 1) vintage 1984, and 2) absolutely fascinating. It could make "Classic" tenuously on either one and, given both, has NO problem. Now -- what I keep wondering about is an Atari Portfolio (1989).... __________________________________________ Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org http://www.chac.org/index.html Computer History Association of California

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HP-150 disks...

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

I just picked up 34 'Hewlett Packard 150' diskettes; except for one they are all user labeled (Well I THINK they are all HP-150 disks, the disk type and labeling are very similar.) I am not certain if the 150 is in the "Classic" arena but I am assuming so by a pic I found on the web, if not sorry on printing an off-topic post. So, if there is anyone here that is interested in 34 assorted HP-150 disks, lemme know. Larry Anderson -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Visit our web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/ Call our BBS (Silicon Realms BBS 300-2400 baud) at: (209) 754-1363 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

28 years, 6 months

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Unisys / Convergent Technologies X-bus CTOS/BTOS units in Thrift

by MPritchard＠EnsembleStudios.com

While dropping by a local thrift (where classic game cartridges were last seen 1 and half years ago) I spotted at least 3 square modules which I recognized to be Unisys or Convergent Technologies machines which ran BTOS/CTOS. As I recall these modules snapped together along a bus (X-bus?) that ran along the bottom of each module. I didn't take a closer look to see what they were, but if anyone in the list is interested, I could go back for them to determine what is there and what price is wanted (yes, I'm offering to pick up and ship for a nominal fee - I'm just a nice guy..) Matt Pritchard matthewp(a)netcom.com mpritchard(a)ensemblestudios.com

28 years, 6 months

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Star Trek for CompuColor II

by MPritchard＠EnsembleStudios.com

I played it about 5 years ago. I let the machine slip through my fingers though (thru neglect of interest). Still a chance it can be dug up... -Matt Pritchard > -----Original Message----- > From: Kai Kaltenbach [SMTP:kaikal@MICROSOFT.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 1997 7:49 PM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: Star Trek for CompuColor II > > Anyone have a copy of this gem? > > thanks > > Kai

28 years, 6 months

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Nicolet 290 needs home

by kmar＠lle.rochester.edu

At 06:14 AM 9/27/97 +0000, you wrote: >Found this on alt.folklore.computers > > We have a working (or at least it was) Nicolet 290 computer. that > need to vacate the room its been taking up for the last 20+ years. >This system is rigged up as a test bench for an MRI system (that's >all still there too) and we have all the manuals, disk packs, paper >tape programs, banks of core memory etc etc.. I plan to do a small >inventory of the parts and pieces but if I don't find it a home soon >it'll get smashed up. > Does anyone know anything about these computers? I have no idea what >else they may have been used for or how rare this thing is. Anything >anyone knows about it could be helpful towards finding it a proper >home. BTW.. Size wise you're looking at a large console with a plotter >built in and a short 19 inch rack plus many boxes of disk packs >(Diablo) and manuals. > > Ken Montgomery > CSU Sacramento > kenm(a)csus.edu (Ken Montgomery) > >I've never heard of a Nicolet 290... What is it? > >Ken Harbit >krh03(a)cvip.fresno.com > The Nioclet 290 is a dedicated instrument controller and data acquisition computer made by Nicolet Instrument Corp. in Madison, Wisconsin. Nicolet is a major manufacturer of Fourier transform (FT) infrared spectrometers, and at one time also manufactured FT Nuclear Magnetic Resonance spectrometers. I have one of the 290's great-grandchildren, the NIC 660, still operating a FTIR spectrometer in my lab. My system was purchased new in 1986, and is still running reasonably well. I don't know a lot about the 290, but what I can tell you about these computers in general is that they are essentially totally proprietary platforms that were designed and built from the ground up to control FTIR and FT NMR instrumentation and process spectral data. The design of the systems were optimized to handle fast Fourier transformation of spectoscopy data "on-the-fly" as it came off of the spectrometer. These computers use a proprietary operating system written by Nicolet (NICOS) which is somewhat Forth-like but has a user shell running on top. The user shell bears some resemblance to Unix. The 660 system I have has applications software for IR spectroscopy, some text editors, and compilers for Fortran, Basic, and Pascal. Nicolet stopped manufacturing these computers and switched over to PC's about 3-5 years ago, but still maintains some limited support (ie, parts and supplies) for these proprietary machines.

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CC> Who's on the list?

by mhop＠mail.snip.net

> > Hi, > > Is it possible to find out if someone is still subscribed to the list > other than sending a message to them through the list? What I really > want to know is: is there a way to get a list of the subscribers > from the listproc? Send mail to the List processor with: recipients classiccmp ..that should do it. If you send "help", it will send back an almost complete list of commands.

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CC> Victor 9000 down the hall

by dastar＠crl.com

How funny. For the past several days, everytime I walk down the hall of my office to go to the loo, I notice this odd looking computer in another company's suite. I can only see the back of it, but I can tell it is not a PC because it seems to have centronics ports on the back, although I only catch quick glimpses because I'm walking by at my usual energetic clip. Well tonight I stopped to gawk at it while the cleaning person had their door open and sure enough its a Victor 9000. I look across the desk to another computer and see a monitor with the "Victor" nameplate on it as well. What a trip. Someone in my building is actually still using a computer which I consider part of my vintage computer collection. I'm going to talk to them and see what they are using on it. Must be some old accounting or insurance or real estate or something application. I don't know what their business is because their name is "Vanier & Associates" so it could be a front company for an international arms smuggling operation for all I know. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

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CC> Victor 9000 down the hall

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 11:55 PM 9/30/97 -0700, you wrote: >door open and sure enough its a Victor 9000. I look across the desk to >another computer and see a monitor with the "Victor" nameplate on it as >well. What a trip. Someone in my building is actually still using a >computer which I consider part of my vintage computer collection. I'm >going to talk to them and see what they are using on it. Must be some old Please post (or at least e-mail me) with what you find out. The Vic9k has a special place in my heart (and my collection!) as my folks were considering purchasing one very early on and I remember being very impressed with its specs. They also had Victor adding machines (My dad was a CPA.) >it could be a front company for an international arms smuggling operation Well, if it is, don't worry about being sued; they probably wouldn't have a leg to stand on. 8^) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Dead HP-97 calculator

by fmc＠reanimators.org

[Note: I saw Hans' message on comp.sys.hp.misc and replied privately, but figure there might be some other folks here who want to know this stuff.] Hans Pufal <hans1(a)filan00.grenoble.hp.com> wrote: > When I got it home I found that it rattled, so I dismantled it and found > two large burnt out resistors on the keyboard PCB. The rattle was caused > by pieces of these resistors in the case. > > Does anyone have docs sufficient to determine the replacement parts for > these resistors? Time for some copying from the service manual. Useful information below is from the HP-97 Programmable Printing Calculator Service Manual, HP part number 00097-90130, dated August 1976. Table 4-9. Keyboard Printed-Circuit Assembly A2A1 (00097-60002) Replaceable Parts Ref HP p/n Description R1 0683-4715 RESISTOR, fxd, 470 ohm R2* 0683-2045 RESISTOR, fxd, 200K R2* 0684-3341 RESISTOR, fxd, 330K R3 0812-0058 RESISTOR, fxd, 8.2 ohm, 2W R4 0811-1674 RESISTOR, fxd, 4.7 ohm, 2W R5 0698-8691 RESISTOR, fxd, 4.0 ohm, 1% R6 0683-1835 RESISTOR, fxd, 18K, 5%, 1/4W R7 0683-3915 RESISTOR, fxd, 390 ohm CR1 1990-0450 LED, low battery indicator Q1 1853-0393 TRANSISTOR, PNP Q2 1853-0401 TRANSISTOR, PNP Q3 1853-0374 TRANSISTOR, PNP Q4 1854-0071 TRANSISTOR, NPN U1 1820-1629 INTEGRATED CIRCUIT, cathode driver U2 1990-0595 DISPLAY, numeric U3, 4 1858-0044 INTEGRATED CIRCUIT, quad transistors U5 1810-0252 INTEGRATED CIRCUIT, resistor network P1, 2 1251-3955 CONNECTOR, 9-pin W1 8120-2206 CABLE, 24-conductor 00097-80002 BOARD, etched R2 is marked with a * because it is selected based on the cathode driver IC U1. I don't completely get this, but there is a chart (Table 4-8, Cathode Driver Resistor Selection Chart): U1 Category: I J R2: 200K 330K Given that you say the burned out resistors are "large" I am going to guess that you are looking for R3 and R4. Here's the layout toward the rear of the board if that helps. Q4 R7 R5 Q2 R6 Q3 R2 ---U5--- R1 ---U4--- ---U3--- -------- -------- ---U1--- -------- -----------J1----------- Q1 R3 R4 > What is the power input requirements for the HP-97? 12.8VAC (from paragraph 2-42). Actually there is a flowchart that includes a test for the AC adapter. For approximately 115VAC input, the output should be between V(in)/10.55 and V(in)/7.82; for 230VAC input, the output should be between V(in)/21.1 and V(in)/15.65. The next part of the test is to connect a 10 Ohm +/- 5% 5W load across the output of the AC adapter and measure the voltage across the load; it should be between 6.2 and 7.4VAC. Hope this helps! NB- I read your message in comp.sys.hp.misc. It looks like you might have posted it to classiccmp too. I am a bit behind reading that. Feel free to repost this there. -Frank McConnell

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what is this? IBM powerstation

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

> I've started collecting old IBM machines, (brand loyalty) and today came > across a machine called an IBM powerstation 550e. it looks very much like an > apple /// except it has two floppy drives, a db9, rj11,.and 3 db25 ports on > the back. i havent powered it up yet as i'm still trying to figure out how to > open it. I'm off work this week, so I cant ask any of the old IBMers what > this is. anyone know? Rather than merely endorsing William D's comments, I think I have one or two things to add... 1. The keyboards on our RS/6000s at work look exactly like PS/2 keyboards except there is an ID number printed in the margin of the Num Lock lamp sticker. It does not have the huge quantity of extra keys found on the 3270 workstations that I used to work with. 2. The RS/6000 are not very closely related physically to the 6150 (RT PC) family. Certainly neither our model 320 nor 375 have ISA slots - the slots are much more like the ones you describe. 3. However, I am puzzled by your physical description. I too expected a large tower for a 500 series powerstation. In fact I cannot think of any IBM product that looked like an Apple /// except possibly the Datamaster. Could the name Powerstation have been used for something other than RS/6000s? Philip.

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CC> Victor 9000 down the hall

by Eros＠mail.dec.com

Geez, I remember that one. A office equipment company I used to work for sold those, along with some Xerox DOS box (800, maybe?), CPT word processing stations and CADO multiuser systems. My first foray into investments was buying 100 shares of Victor Technologies stock at $3/share. <<flush!>> :-) -- Tony Eros Digital Equipment Corporation ---------- From: Sam Ismail[SMTP:dastar@crl.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 1997 2:55 AM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: CC> Victor 9000 down the hall How funny. For the past several days, everytime I walk down the hall of my office to go to the loo, I notice this odd looking computer in another company's suite. I can only see the back of it, but I can tell it is not a PC because it seems to have centronics ports on the back, although I only catch quick glimpses because I'm walking by at my usual energetic clip. Well tonight I stopped to gawk at it while the cleaning person had their door open and sure enough its a Victor 9000. I look across the desk to another computer and see a monitor with the "Victor" nameplate on it as well. What a trip. Someone in my building is actually still using a computer which I consider part of my vintage computer collection. I'm going to talk to them and see what they are using on it. Must be some old accounting or insurance or real estate or something application. I don't know what their business is because their name is "Vanier & Associates" so it could be a front company for an international arms smuggling operation for all I know. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

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Nicolet 290 needs home

by krh03＠csufresno.edu

Found this on alt.folklore.computers We have a working (or at least it was) Nicolet 290 computer. that need to vacate the room its been taking up for the last 20+ years. This system is rigged up as a test bench for an MRI system (that's all still there too) and we have all the manuals, disk packs, paper tape programs, banks of core memory etc etc.. I plan to do a small inventory of the parts and pieces but if I don't find it a home soon it'll get smashed up. Does anyone know anything about these computers? I have no idea what else they may have been used for or how rare this thing is. Anything anyone knows about it could be helpful towards finding it a proper home. BTW.. Size wise you're looking at a large console with a plotter built in and a short 19 inch rack plus many boxes of disk packs (Diablo) and manuals. Ken Montgomery CSU Sacramento kenm(a)csus.edu (Ken Montgomery) I've never heard of a Nicolet 290... What is it? Ken Harbit krh03(a)cvip.fresno.com

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Calling all Seattle and area readers

by hans1＠filan00.grenoble.hp.com

Hi there, I will be in Bellevue WA for a week, arriving Saturday 4th Oct, leaving Fri 10 Oct. Anything going on that I would kick myself for missing? Regards, Hans B Pufal

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what is this? IBM powerstation

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

concerning this powerstation, i doubt its a risc machine; i have an IBM PC RT which i will post about later, and that is entirely different from this box. i cannot see the main board because of the two floppy drives which are tilted up. there is 4 card slots, but they're not ISA. they look like long continuous ISA slots, about 6-7 inches long with a disk controller installed. the machine "posts" but i've no floppy and no video (yet) this machine also didnt have a key. just some latches which were pulled and the top came off. In a message dated 97-09-30 21:16:02 EDT, you write: << It is probably an older RS/6000 - however, I have never heard of a 550e (then again, IBM makes a lot of weird stuff). The 500 series RS/6000s are largish deskside towers. The desktop machines are the 200 and 300 series. Open the thing up! If it is an old RS/6000, it will have a processor board with eight or so big nasty looking chips - the Power RISC processor. The only thing that may give you trouble is that the key (if it has one) must be in the service position to get the cover off. >>

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generic 386 motherboard and processor available...

by manney＠nwohio.com

Sure. How much do you want? (uh...is it over 10 yrs old? This is *classic* computers, remember!) Is it an SX or DX? What MHz? Any RAM? manney(a)nwohio.com >Someplace around here, I've got a 386 motherboard and processor, that >replaced an >old DEC 33 mhz unit.. No clue (off the top of my head) who made it.. >Anybody want >the thing?

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what is this? IBM powerstation

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

I've started collecting old IBM machines, (brand loyalty) and today came across a machine called an IBM powerstation 550e. it looks very much like an apple /// except it has two floppy drives, a db9, rj11,.and 3 db25 ports on the back. i havent powered it up yet as i'm still trying to figure out how to open it. I'm off work this week, so I cant ask any of the old IBMers what this is. anyone know? david

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what is this? IBM powerstation

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

Well, the physical description sounds a bit odd, but from the model number I believe you've got one of the early, pre-PowerPC RS/6000 RISC boxes. Hope it came with a keyboard... although they have standard-looking PS/2-style keyboard connectors, the RS/6000 boxes require a specific keyboard that looks kind of like a PC/3270 keyboard, with a built-in speaker. I've been looking for a keyboard for a friend of mine's machine for quite a while. Kai > -----Original Message----- > From: SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com [SMTP:SUPRDAVE@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 1997 4:46 PM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: what is this? IBM powerstation > > I've started collecting old IBM machines, (brand loyalty) and today > came > across a machine called an IBM powerstation 550e. it looks very much > like an > apple /// except it has two floppy drives, a db9, rj11,.and 3 db25 > ports on > the back. i havent powered it up yet as i'm still trying to figure out > how to > open it. I'm off work this week, so I cant ask any of the old IBMers > what > this is. anyone know? > > david

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CC> AT&T terminal

by dastar＠crl.com

I've seen two interesting AT&T terminals lately. Both of them are the same. The screen is rather larger and squarish (about 10" both dimensions). The most interesting thing is it has what seems to be a carthridge slot on the side. There is a long white flap on the base unit that pushes in to reveal an card socket. Anyone have any ideas what the slot is for? Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

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Advanced Integration Research Motherboard

by lddgibson＠erols.com

I have a 486lc motherboard and need to know about any of the settings (i.e. jumpers and dip switch) and what the memory config is. thanks

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F100K

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

Several days ago, William Donzelli wrote: > Was any machine (most likely mainframe class) ever built using F100K ECL > (the super fast stuff - even today)? The family is small but well thought > out, and includes some rather bizarre functions. When I went to Munich to visit my German pen friend 4+/-1 years ago, the Technical University of Munich had just thrown one out. It was made by Control Data Corp., and had a model number like 220 or something. Bernhard was then a student there, and got some bits as souvenirs. I did some swapping and ended up with 4M 18-bit words of 40 and 45 ns static RAM for possible use in one of my systems (I haven't yet!) and, as a museum piece, a card from the CPU. This CPU card was covered on one side in surface mounted 100000 series ECL, which I believe is the same as F100K. The other side of the card had a thin layer of insulator and a thick layer of steel - presumably to interface thermally to a cooling system. Philip.

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[Fwd: North Star Horizons For Sale]

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

A possible opportunity for someone... See attached message -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174 [ Part 2: "Included Message" ] Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 18:09:09 GMT From: Mike Stute <lilthug(a)metronet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.northstar, dfw.forsale Subject: North Star Horizons For Sale I have 2 North Star Horizons and an Imsai 8080 that need a new home. I'm in the Dallas area. Make Offer. Mike (972) 242-1271

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Apple II hard drive??

by thedm＠sunflower.com

GS/OS 6.01 you have to have a ROM01 motherboard and you can't make your partitions larger than 32megs each, thats the max for prodos. I made four 25meg partitions. Use one for system and apps. one for games, one for testing and one for downloads/temp etc ---------- > From: John R. Keys Jr. <jrkeys(a)concentric.net> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: Apple II hard drive?? > Date: Wednesday, December 31, 1969 6:00 PM > > What OS version are you running, I could not get a 80 meg drive to work on > the GS using Apple brand SCSI card. > At 12:28 PM 9/29/97 -0500, you wrote: > >go scsi, www.allelec.com I have a 100meg scsi on my GS > > > >---------- > >> From: Richard A. Cini, Jr. <rcini(a)classic.msn.com> > >> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > ><classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > >> Subject: Apple II hard drive?? > >> Date: Monday, September 29, 1997 12:06 PM > >> > >> > >> What's the best solution for attaching some form of mass-storage to an > >Apple > >> II+? > >> > >> > >> > >> Rich Cini/WUGNET > >> <rcini(a)msn.com> > > > >

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IBM System/34 available for collection. Free to a good home.

by zmerch＠northernway.net

Due to massive amounts of caffeine & sleep deprivation, Daniel A. Seagraves said: >At the place where I keep my 11/44, the owner has an IBM System/34. It's >a largish beige brick. Chances are good I'll never get it (Can't store >it), and it can't be left there. All the owner (Murrel) wants is to avoid >paying to have it removed. I thought he wanted money for it, but he >doesn't. It has all sorts of disks & stuff, and I think it's running (Not >sure how to start it, so I can't check.) Tell me how and I may be able >to. It runs RPG-II. It takes 8" floppies. I know it powers on, that's >about all I know. Well, can't help you with the operating info, but where's it located? I have a largish (very dry) basement which would house it nicely, but Californee's a bit out of my way. Northern Wisconsin or Northern Michigan perhaps... Thanks, "Merch" -- Roger Merchberger | Why does Hershey's put nutritional Programmer, NorthernWay | information on their candy bar wrappers zmerch(a)northernway.net | when there's no nutritional value within?

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IBM System/34 available for collection. Free to a good home.

by dseagrav＠bsdserver.tek-star.net

At the place where I keep my 11/44, the owner has an IBM System/34. It's a largish beige brick. Chances are good I'll never get it (Can't store it), and it can't be left there. All the owner (Murrel) wants is to avoid paying to have it removed. I thought he wanted money for it, but he doesn't. It has all sorts of disks & stuff, and I think it's running (Not sure how to start it, so I can't check.) Tell me how and I may be able to. It runs RPG-II. It takes 8" floppies. I know it powers on, that's about all I know.

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Laser?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

I've had several laser machines, which seemed to be of decent quality. in fact, my first computer was a laser 386sxe bought back in 1989 for $800 and still works today. it has a nonstandard power supply, but I found one for sale 3 years ago for $4 which i'm keeping for a spare. I also had the laser xtsl, which was a small 10mhz xt with dual 720k floppy drives. I wish I still had that one. Nowadays, I just have two laser 128 models and two external drives made by them, one for the laser/2c, and one that works on the disk ][ controller. I believe they also made pc compatibles in an apple //c -like form factor. david In a message dated 97-09-30 03:32:27 EDT, J Keys put forth: << Yes they made PC clones as well as Apples, they also made ext drives for PC's, Apples and Commodores. At 01:13 AM 9/29/97 -0500, you wrote: >I knew that Laser made Apple ][ clones - I've seen a few in thrift stores, >but never bought one. But a friend of mine just appeared with a Laser 286/2 - >it's definitely the same logo. Did they make other PC clones? He's from >Toronto - did they sell their PC clones in the US as well? > >Thanks, >>

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CC> Electronic versions of DDJ

by dastar＠crl.com

Does anyone know where I can score digital versions of Dr. Dobbs Journal all the way back to the first issue? Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

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Laser?

by manney＠nwohio.com

>I knew that Laser made Apple ][ clones - I've seen a few in thrift stores, >but never bought one. But a friend of mine just appeared with a Laser 286/2 - >it's definitely the same logo. Did they make other PC clones? He's from >Toronto - did they sell their PC clones in the US as well? Yes. I have a Laser XT clone (slightly peculiar data cables and -- IIRC -- nonstandard motherboard switch, but a nice, fast "turbo" (8 MHz) XT. Very well built. The keyboard is XT/AT switchable, so I still use it.

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FS: IBM 5100

by manney＠nwohio.com

Thanks to all who showed interest in the 5100... it looks as if the deal is struck. manney(a)nwohio.com

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FS: TRS-80's

by manney＠nwohio.com

A Customer has (4) TRS-80 model 4. All have seen office use, and are not pristine. Some software, WP and database apps. Any interest? manney(a)nwohio.com

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[Fwd: Re: Altair 8800]

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

>From: Eric Chomko <chomko(a)IDT.NET> >Newsgroups: alt.folklore.computers >Subject: Re: Altair 8800 >Date: 19 Sep 1997 03:47:25 GMT > >Tim Shoppa <shoppa(a)alph02.triumf.ca> wrote: >: In article <341776C1.426ED8F0(a)odyssee.net>, DAN <dlessard(a)odyssee.net> wrote: >: >Once someone loaded the Micro-Soft Basic into the Altair via switches, >: >paper tape or disk, how did they enter the program? Also through paper >: >tape or did they have a keyboard to write a simple program? > >: Typically they had a Teletype or some other sort of terminal to >: run Basic on. Often, the paper tape reader was part of the teletype. > >TTYs and Altair did not mix. Their 20 milliamp current loop interface was >for shit if I remember correctly. If theyever had one. Can an Altair owner >with a TTY make me a liar? Um, yes. (having a few Altairs and TTYs which I still run) The Altair (MITS) serial cards and 20mil TTYs got along just fine, once you resolved one minor issue. The 20mil drivers on the MITS cards were fine, with the exception that they *did not source the receive (keyboard) loop* ! This was not properly documented anywhere, and caused many a person endless grief trying to get it to run... It would appear that MITS was not the first to approach the issue in this manner (so who knew just what voltage you needed to run??? considering line length and all) since the problem was easily (once you knew the secret) resolved by installing one jumper *in the TTY* which existed for just such a purpose (and was documented in the Teletype manuals). -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174

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Coming up for sale soon: Atari ST stuff + Northstar

by PeterN＠datacom.co.nz

My Father-in-law has finally managed to convince his wife to part with the Atari ST they have. In the process, he'll be disposing a sizeable collection of Atari ST bits and pieces, plus a (as far as I know) a working North Star s-100 CPM box. The catch is that all of this stuff is in New Zealand... I do know he has the following: Atari 1040ST expanded internally to 4MB ICS SCSI interface w/ RTC in external cabinet w/ power supply and broken Syquest 44MB Removable drive Grey scale Hand scanner Video Recored based Backup system Calamus Desktop Publishing software Color monitor (working) Monochrome Monitor (working) Monochrome Monitor (not working) External Floppy Drive Atari 520ST (two of, one working definitely working) various other bits of software. North Star with terminal and 2 360kB FDD, 64Kb RAM (I think) I'll make a second posting once he has inventoried it all, and I'll give his e-mail address as well. I would have taken the stuff myself, but I already have a TRS-80 Model 1 clone sitting around doing very little (apart from taking up room)(and I intend to keep this - my project is to 1. Find Time to do something. 2. Upgrade the FDD interface to High Density. Add a SCSI interface, alter NEWDOS or LDOS to use it. Someday... The ICS SCSI interface lets you hook up just about any sized hard drive - I tried it with a 512MB SCSI drive so far, that seemed to work fine (it flew), but you could hook up a CD-ROM (I think) with the appropriate driver software (the ICS interface comes with a setup disk - I can't remember if that has the CD-ROM driver SW on it). The Atari 1040ST could do with the TOS 1.4(?) or 2.0 TOS upgrade. The 3MB RAM expansion is a little flakey (runs OK 99.99% of the time) Peter Nield, Network Administrator, Fletcher Challenge Limited mailto:petern@fcl.co.nz

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CC> Management suggestion

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 10:31 PM 9/26/97 -0700, you wrote: >I only average about 30 - 50 messages/day and it only takes minutes to look >at them. My sort routine consists of read followed by a manual trash or >classify ... or put the decision off :). At what point (as far as >messages/day) does it make sense to use a filter to sort? I get about 100-150 per day and haven't gotten around to installing Eudora Pro (which includes filtering) yet. Still, one of these days, I'll get around to it. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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Apple II hard drive??

by rcini＠classic.msn.com

What's the best solution for attaching some form of mass-storage to an Apple II+? Rich Cini/WUGNET <rcini(a)msn.com>

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Intel 8231A & 8232 Math Co-processor Chips

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<I called Intel Customer Service directly - they have no information on thi <chip in their database. Not surprizing, they have lousy memories. My '82 and '83 data books list them. They are preliminary in the '82book. At that time I'd seem them in the flesh and they were about $150 each. The actual chips were a mask trade with AMD for some of intels parts. I don't think intel ever acually made them as the ones I'd seen though intel branded were AMD foundry marks on the die! That was common practice then and likely now. <Obtaining one of these chips is a nice-to-have, not critical, so I'll proba <let this die for now. But thank you, gentlemen, for your assistance! last I'd seen either they were far from cheap! I's suspect if your can find them they will either go cheap of if they sellers know their limited availability real expensive. Also since the sourcing of them was at best questionable many designers stayed away from them. FYI: I looked at them and while they appeared faster than general math routines on a z80 bytime you did the IO to them and all they could be much slower than a good asm coded routine. Allison

28 years, 6 months

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Intel 8231A & 8232 Math Co-processor Chips

by jrbrady＠delphi.com

On Fri, 26 Sep 1997 23:13:05, Kip Crosby <engine(a)chac.org> wrote: >I called a guy who was a logic designer at Intel during the period and who >has samples of most of the pertinent Intel chips from, say, the 8048 to >current. He has no 8232 and claims never to have seen one or a data sheet >for it. It was so lackadaisically marketed by Intel that he suspects it >was a cross-license from AMD and that someone at Intel objected to the >architecture. I called Intel Customer Service directly - they have no information on this chip in their database. On Fri, 26 Sep 1997 21:49:24, William Donzelli <william(a)ans.net> wrote: >Are both of those chips even still in production? If not, that might be a >real challenge. I remember trying to get one of AMD super neat database >coprocessors, but really felt a great deal of resistance by the sales >people and the distributors. > >One note: many sales offices are decent (Motorola), and will look up (and >copy) data for long gone chips. According to Intel, the 8231A was discontinued in 1996. They mentioned Rochester Electronics as a possible second-source. I accessed Rochester's web site but was unable to locate any reference using their search feature. Obtaining one of these chips is a nice-to-have, not critical, so I'll probably let this die for now. But thank you, gentlemen, for your assistance! Regards, Jason Brady jrbrady(a)delphi.com Seattle, WA

28 years, 6 months

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Apple II hard drive??

by thedm＠sunflower.com

go scsi, www.allelec.com I have a 100meg scsi on my GS ---------- > From: Richard A. Cini, Jr. <rcini(a)classic.msn.com> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Apple II hard drive?? > Date: Monday, September 29, 1997 12:06 PM > > > What's the best solution for attaching some form of mass-storage to an Apple > II+? > > > > Rich Cini/WUGNET > <rcini(a)msn.com>

28 years, 6 months

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Laser?

by COAKLEY＠AC.GRIN.EDU

> I don't know if it is the same company or not, but Laser PC's are very > common in Australia - although the 286's which I knew tended to have > problems with their hard drives. This one sure does - it seems to have ritually destroyed its FAT. > There are also PC/XT's, and 386's. There > were also a couple of Laser laptop/palmtops, along the lines of the Tandy > 100 and Amstrad NC-100. They show up on the second hand market all the > time, and I keep meaning to pick up a couple. Very neat. I'd love to see a scan of one of these. Does anybody know of a source? Thanks for the info, -- Ben Coakley coakley(a)ac.grin.edu Station Manager, KDIC 88.5 FM CBEL: Xavier OH http://www.math.grin.edu/~coakley

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Laser?

by thedm＠sunflower.com

Yes it is the one and the same company, in my younger days, I sold computers at Sears, who carried the Laser line. They sold both PC and Apple][ compatables. ---------- > From: Adam Jenkins <adam(a)merlin.net.au> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: Laser? > Date: Monday, September 29, 1997 5:36 AM > > >I knew that Laser made Apple ][ clones - I've seen a few in thrift stores, > >but never bought one. But a friend of mine just appeared with a Laser 286/2 - > >it's definitely the same logo. Did they make other PC clones? He's from > >Toronto - did they sell their PC clones in the US as well? > > I don't know if it is the same company or not, but Laser PC's are very > common in Australia - although the 286's which I knew tended to have > problems with their hard drives. There are also PC/XT's, and 386's. There > were also a couple of Laser laptop/palmtops, along the lines of the Tandy > 100 and Amstrad NC-100. They show up on the second hand market all the > time, and I keep meaning to pick up a couple. > > Adam. >

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Laser?

by adam＠merlin.net.au

>I knew that Laser made Apple ][ clones - I've seen a few in thrift stores, >but never bought one. But a friend of mine just appeared with a Laser 286/2 - >it's definitely the same logo. Did they make other PC clones? He's from >Toronto - did they sell their PC clones in the US as well? I don't know if it is the same company or not, but Laser PC's are very common in Australia - although the 286's which I knew tended to have problems with their hard drives. There are also PC/XT's, and 386's. There were also a couple of Laser laptop/palmtops, along the lines of the Tandy 100 and Amstrad NC-100. They show up on the second hand market all the time, and I keep meaning to pick up a couple. Adam.

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Laser?

by COAKLEY＠AC.GRIN.EDU

I knew that Laser made Apple ][ clones - I've seen a few in thrift stores, but never bought one. But a friend of mine just appeared with a Laser 286/2 - it's definitely the same logo. Did they make other PC clones? He's from Toronto - did they sell their PC clones in the US as well? Thanks, -- Ben Coakley coakley(a)ac.grin.edu Station Manager, KDIC 88.5 FM CBEL: Xavier OH http://www.math.grin.edu/~coakley

28 years, 6 months

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Dead HP-97 calculator

by hans1＠filan00.grenoble.hp.com

This weekend I acquired an HP-97 calculator dating from 1967! It includes a thermal printer and mag card reader. When I got it home I found that it rattled, so I dismantled it and found two large burnt out resistors on the keyboard PCB. The rattle was caused by pieces of these resistors in the case. Does anyone have docs sufficient to determine the replacement parts for these resistors? What is the power input requirements for the HP-97? Regards, Hans B Pufal Comprehensive Computer Catalogue <http://www.digiweb.com/~hansp/ccc/> <mailto:hansp@digiweb.com>

28 years, 6 months

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HP 150 II and MS-DOS 3.2 (fwd)

by more＠camlaw.rutgers.edu

OK. Thanks to you guys, she was able to get the HP 150 II up and running but now needs a copy of DOS 3.2 which supposedly works with this machine. If anyone can help her out, again, please e-mail her! THANKS! LeS ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 01:49:52 -0700 From: Brigid Cumming <bcumming(a)island.net> To: more(a)camlaw.Rutgers.EDU Subject: MS-DOS 3.2 Thanks to help from your mail list, we've got the HP-150 II up & running. By dint of reading the manuals & the FAQ a kind classic computer buff directed us too, we've found we need MS-DOS 3.2 for the HP-150 II to really work. Right now it's running MS-DOS 2.11, the OS for the HP-150, but has a 20 MB hard drive. Do you have a copy of MS-DOS 3.2? Or could your mail list could suggest a source? Yours gratefully, Brigid & John Cumming bcumming(a)island.net

28 years, 6 months

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386 motherboard

by wpe＠interserv.com

This has been tentatively adopted..... Will -- Sorry to have to resort to this, but, due to the myriad of automatic e-mail advertising ("SPAMming") programs out there, I've been forced to modify my "reply to" address. To reply to this message, you must remove the .spamfree from the reply-to address. To those friends, and folks who are trying to contact me with info that I will likely be happy to receive, I apologze for this inconvienence. To those out there, sending all these annoying "junk mail" messages, I say "Oh well...." Will

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This weekend's haul

by Eros＠mail.dec.com

I picked up a complete HP-86B system this weekend. System box, monitor, two dual floppy drives, printer, plotter, documentation, three shoeboxes full of Basic, CP/M and UCSD p-System software and a slew of expansion carts, including: (4) 128K RAM Memory Expansion (2) ROM Expansion w/ Assembler, Matrix, Printer, Plotter ROMS System Monitor Auxiliary Processor HPIB Interface CP/M System Voice Synthesizer Four-slot Extender Interface I'd written software for the HP-85 years ago and picked one up a few months back, so this is a veritable gold mine of Series 80 goodies. Two wannas: Does anyone have a spare Sun monitor that would work with a 3/80? About 10 days ago, I picked up a Lisa 2 with a ProFile drive, but no connector cable. Any leads on where I might snag a cable? -- Tony Eros ---------- From: John R. Keys Jr.[SMTP:jrkeys@concentric.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 1969 7:00 PM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: Good weekend Well Saturday made up for a slow week of finds. In that one day I was able to pick up and save the following: Commodore 1902 monitor, 2-Mac 128's one with KB & mouse, Platinum Mac Plus with KB & mouse, Apple IIgs with RGB monitor & ext 3.5 & 51/4 drives,Epson FX80 printer, 4-Kraft joysticks new in box, Applecolor Composite monitor, Mac numpad/trackball combo by Assimilation, SB midi kit, and BluePrint C64 cartridge. Also during the week picked up a Okidata OL400 laser for $5 and Radius Powerview $8 both from Goodwill. From Savers got a new in box Softstrip System Reader by Cauzin. That was my week for the most part other manuals and software that I got. I should have enough Mac's to fill the request I have from some of you by the end of next week. Keep computing!

28 years, 6 months

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an interesting round-up

by dastar＠crl.com

Ok, here's some of what I arrested into the custody of my collection yesterday. A zero-emission Mac 512K. This is truly bizarre. Its a normal looking Mac 512K until you look closer and notice there is a second built-in floppy on the right-hand side, oriented vertically. The brightness knob is missing from the front and replaced with a little square that is the same color and texture as the rest of the case. It was moved to the back. The power cord is not detachable like on a normal Mac but is instead permanently attached. The external disk drive connector is gone, and so is the slot where you can insert a security cable; its covered over. Opening this thing is half-past a bitch and a quarter till a pain in the ass. I finally get it open by removing all the screws on the DB-9 connectors on the back and find a totally shielded interior. The disk drives and motherboard are encased in aluminum. The monitor has a gold foil pasted to its entire exterior. The video cable is shielded inside a heavy duty stranded shielding, as well as the cable going to the second disk drive. Even the DB-9 connectors have extra shielding around them. It was made by a company called Systematics General in Sterling, Virginia. Anyone know anything about these? I also collected several DEC boards I am assuming go to a PDP-11. Someone help me identify these: DEC M8045 - 32K 18 BIT MOS MEM (guess that one is pretty obvious) (note: I have two of these. On the board they have M8045 but on the front tab one says M8044 DF and the other M8044DB) M7949 M7957 - ASYN MUX M7551-CA - Definitely looks like a memory board M7136 - LPWR GS-2 (?) This one has a busted chip but upon close examination it looks like the IC is still intact with the spider-web fine wires still attached to the wafer. Half the silicon is missing but I can still see its an AMD chip. Looking at the front of the card with the edge connectors down, its on the bottom row of chips, third chip from the left. Looks like it starts with AMPALI5R?? Next row of numbers is 84H90 maybe? M8013 - RLV11 DISK CONTROL Can't find the part number on this next one but its clearly labelled RDRX DISK CONTROLLER. M7135 - ??? This one has five 24 pin chips with lots of gold with a big square chip next to them. A scrappers dream with all the gold on this sucker. USDC (this is what is stamped on the board). All I can see of this board is 10-1108-02, with the 02 being scrawled into a solder pad. Has an AMD 8418 and what looks to be a Fairchild MBL8086-2 (CPU?) on it. I only say Farichild because it has an F with a line above and below it. Also has a couple 64K EPROMS. Finally, it has a 50 pin connector on the top (don't know what its type is called but it looks like ::::::::::::::::::). These boards were sitting in a scrap bin and some are pretty scuffed up. I don't even know if they work. Some need some solder repair work. All are pretty much in tact. The only major damage is that one broken PAL. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

28 years, 6 months

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Apple Stuff on AuctionWeb

by gmast＠polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu

I just listed some Apple parts on AuctionWeb. Also some old mac software and a RS Model 100. See the links below for more info and to bid. Bidding seems to be down overall so there are some good deals to be had. I just want to clear out this stuff. Also have a couple Apple IIGS computers not on the auction I need to sell if anyone is interested. Radio Shack Model 100 Laptop Computer (photo) Current bid: $70.38 Auction ends on: 09/28/97, 14:36:03 PDT http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=511656 Lot of OLD Mac Game Software (128/512/Plus) Current bid: $8.00 Auction ends on: 10/03/97, 22:39:08 PDT http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=646295 Lot 2 of OLD Mac Game Software (128/512/Plus) Current bid: $9.50 Auction ends on: 10/03/97, 22:47:11 PDT http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=646404 Lot 3 of OLD Mac Game/SW Disks (128/512/Plus) Current bid: $8.00 Auction ends on: 10/03/97, 23:27:50 PDT http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=646683 Apple Laserwriter II DC Power Supply Bidding starts at: $1.00 Auction ends on: 10/04/97, 14:36:31 PDT http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=658085 Apple Imagewriter II CPU Board - New in Box Bidding starts at: $1.00 Auction ends on: 10/04/97, 14:41:50 PDT http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=658185 Mac SE Main Logic Board FDHD Current bid: $1.00 Auction ends on: 10/04/97, 14:53:36 PDT http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=658461 Apple IIc Factory Replacement Floppy - New! Bidding starts at: $1.00 Auction ends on: 10/04/97, 14:56:51 PDT http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=658535 Lot of Apple Service Parts, in Boxes! Bidding starts at: $1.00 Auction ends on: 10/04/97, 15:09:16 PDT http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=658806 Apple IIc Main Logic Board - New in Box! Bidding starts at: $1.00 Auction ends on: 10/04/97, 15:13:08 PDT http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=658909 Mac II Power Supply Bidding starts at: $1.00 Auction ends on: 10/04/97, 15:17:14 PDT http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=659010 Apple Imagewriter II Printer Current bid: $3.00 Auction ends on: 10/04/97, 17:52:19 PDT http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=663059 Apple IIC Computer (Photo) Current bid: $3.00 Auction ends on: 10/04/97, 17:55:49 PDT http://komodo.ebay2.com/aw-cgi/ItemISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=663175 Thanks for reading!.....Greg

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Good weekend

by marvin＠rain.org

John R. Keys Jr. wrote: > Well Saturday made up for a slow week of finds. In that one day I was able > > to pick up and save the following: Commodore 1902 monitor, 2-Mac 128's one > > with KB & mouse, Platinum Mac Plus with KB & mouse, Apple IIgs with RGB Subject: Good weekend Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:00:00 -0500 From: "John R. Keys Jr." <jrkeys(a)concentric.net> Reply-To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers" <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Well Saturday made up for a slow week of finds. In that one day I was able to pick up and save the following: Commodore 1902 monitor, 2-Mac 128's one Can you loan me your time machine and show me how to set it to about 1976? Notice the date of your message :). Nice finds!

28 years, 6 months

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Fellow needs a VAX: Anyone?

by kyrrin2＠wizards.net

Found this while poking around on Usenet. If someone would be kind enough to forward the author any info on VAXen that may need rescue, I'm sure he'd appreciate it. -=-=- <snip> -=-=- I am looking for a VAX system, any one will do, it will be basically used as a learning system for college students. Please contact me at ashwood(a)email.msn.com with any offers Joseph Ashwood ashwood(a)email.msn.com -=-=- <snip> -=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL SUBJECT TO $500.00 PROOFREADING FEE PER ITEM SENT. SENDING ME SUCH UNSOLICITED ITEMS CONSTITUTES UNDERSTANDING AND ACCEPTANCE OF THESE TERMS. Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave (Fido 1:343/272) http://www.wizards.net/technoid -- kyrrin2-At-Wizards-Dot-Net "...Spam is bad. Spam wastes resources. Spam is theft of service. Don't spam, period..."

28 years, 6 months

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TRS-80 Disk/Video Interface

by healyzh＠ix.netcom.com

Hi All, Pardon my stupid question, I know nothing about Trash 80's. OK, the question of the day is what is this? It looks like you are supposed to plug a ribbon cable into the bottom, and connect it to a computer. I've been looking for TRS-80 stuff to add to my collection, so far I've only got a CoCo2, so when I saw this for $8 I grabbed it. It's got one 5 1/4" drive in it, and a spot to stick another. On the back is a plug for TV, and another for a monitor (they both look the same). Which TRS-80 was this for? Thanks, Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. | | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |

28 years, 6 months

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generic 386 motherboard and processor available...

by wpe＠interserv.com

Someplace around here, I've got a 386 motherboard and processor, that replaced an old DEC 33 mhz unit.. No clue (off the top of my head) who made it.. Anybody want the thing? Will -- Sorry to have to resort to this, but, due to the myriad of automatic e-mail advertising ("SPAMming") programs out there, I've been forced to modify my "reply to" address. To reply to this message, you must remove the .spamfree from the reply-to address. To those friends, and folks who are trying to contact me with info that I will likely be happy to receive, I apologze for this inconvienence. To those out there, sending all these annoying "junk mail" messages, I say "Oh well...." Will

28 years, 6 months

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Hoo, boy...

by kyrrin2＠wizards.net

Is it just me, or does anyone else on the list think this fellow's going to be owning the stuff he's plugging a -long- time at his prices? -=-=- <snip> -=-=- How can I add my name to receive this list? c-bristol(a)usa.net TABLE OF CONTENTS: 1. SOUND EQUIPMENT 2. COMPUTER ANTIQUES (CORE memory, etc.) 3. COMPUTER EQUIPMENT (IBM style; non-IBM style) 4. OFFICE EQUIPMENT and FURNITURE (Fireproof Cab) 5. MISC. (Tools, Elec.Test Equip.,Bikes,Backpack) 6. BUILDING MATERIALS and TOOLS 7. THINGS I WANT TO BUY / TRADE FOR <remainder read, many prices laughed at, then snipped> -=-=- <snip> -=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Sysop, The Dragon's Cave BBS (Fidonet 1:343/272) (Hamateur: WD6EOS) (E-mail: kyrrin2(a)wizards.net) http://www.wizards.net/technoid "Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."

28 years, 6 months

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Spare Discrete Components?

by jrbrady＠delphi.com

Many collectors have multiple systems and peripherals that can be cannibalized for parts if anything in their primary machine fails, but what about maintaining an inventory of discrete components such as ICs or those 150,000 Mfd filter capacitors? I reviewed the availability of parts for many of my systems and found that most components are readily available. Others were more difficult to locate or were listed under another industry part number (e.g., a "25LS2521" is actually a "74LS688"). Do you think it's worth the effort to purchase spare discrete components? Are there any specific categories of devices or parts that are prone to damage, failure, or extinction? Regards, Jason Brady jrbrady(a)delphi.com Seattle, WA

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Prices (Re: DEC PDP-11's, Peripherals, Docs, Unix, etc. for sale; L.A.,CA.)

by c-bristol＠usa.net

I'm sorry, I don't know what this stuff is worth. I bought my PDP-11 stuff when it was still worth something. I paid $5,000 for the 11/45, and $1,000 for the Emulex SC21/B1, to make a home Unix system in 1983. Just ignore my prices and make any offer. Did I hear an offer of $30 + shipping for the SC21/B1? ?? Buy the way, I already sold about 15 items (mostly stereo stuff) from this list at almost the prices I asked. So on the computer stuff, please ignore my prices, but try to pay me enough to crate it up if you are not able to pick it up in L.A. ---------- From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Subject: Re: DEC PDP-11's, Peripherals, Docs, Unix, etc. for sale; L.A.,CA. Date: Friday, September 26, 1997 10:26 PM >> FLOPPY DISK DRIVE, DSD, 2 8" floppies in 10" rack box, runs a=20 >> PDP-11, copy of DEC RX01, $95. Optional: RT-11 set, source, > ^^^^^^^ >> XXDP Diagnostics, on floppies > >If Mentec gets wind that you're selling the source to a still-supported >operating system like RT-11, you better get a lawyer - and a good one! Well he did say he was planning on leaving the country! :^) Actually he's been trying to sell this stuff for quite some time, I first saw this when I was doing a search on 19" racks and DejaNews pulled it up, I think that was in July. Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Mac Programmer | +----------------------------------+---------------------------+ | For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. | | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |

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Apple III+ questions

by engine＠chac.org

At 08:41 9/27/97 -0500, you wrote: >I have alot of original software and docs for the ///, but not the ///+, >but if I know my history right, they ///+ was just basically the version >that worked :) I'm researching that now, and, not quite. The original, buggy /// started shipping in September 1980. There was a revised, mostly fixed version also called the /// that was introduced in December 1981. The ///+ didn't appear till December 1983 and both models were discontinued in April 1984....so that's why most of us don't have a ///+. __________________________________________ Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org http://www.chac.org/index.html Computer History Association of California

28 years, 6 months

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Nicolet 290 needs home

by engine＠chac.org

At 06:14 9/27/97 +0000, Ken Harbit wrote: >> We have a working (or at least it was) Nicolet 290 computer.... > Does anyone know anything about these computers? I have no idea what >else they may have been used for or how rare this thing is.... > >I've never heard of a Nicolet 290... What is it? I have a funny feeling it has something to do with http://www.nicimg.com , which is what you get if you stuff +"Nicolet" into AltaVista. And since they're in San Diego, this computer may be on my turf, oh joy. __________________________________________ Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org http://www.chac.org/index.html Computer History Association of California

28 years, 6 months

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Apple III+ questions

by MicroAge97＠aol.com

hello, My friend say the apple/// should be able to boot off the profile.... but he hasn't used one on an aplle ///, just lisa's. dave

28 years, 6 months

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Apple III+ questions

by thedm＠sunflower.com

Okay, where to begin: I have several ///'s but no plus, so needless to say, im jealous:) The AA's are factory, they go to the clock circuit to retain the time, some later regular ///'s had this as well. {clone pc's use this method as well, like old DTK's} The profile drive is more tricky, I have one too and it works. It is not a bootable device, you need a "catalyst" disk, that's the disk that runs the card and initialized the drive. It has some kind of menu system you edit to bring up like a dosshell kinda of thing to select items, This I havent figured out yet, when I go into the "catalyst editor" i get a file now found. Mine came loaded and working. I have alot of original software and docs for the ///, but not the ///+, but if I know my history right, they ///+ was just basically the version that worked :) ---------- > From: Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Apple III+ questions > Date: Saturday, September 27, 1997 12:01 AM > > Hi, > Got a Apple III+ yesterday, not sure if it works, haven't powered it up > yet, it was such a mess that I'm working on cleaning it up first. > > I just cracked the case open and notice that it has three AA batteries in a > battery holder between the floppy drive and the power supply. They're in > front of where the cards go. Finding AA's strike me as more than a little > odd! Is this a user modification? > > Also I've been lucky enough to get a Profile drive with it, and the > controller card is in the computer. As I've said, I've not powered the > system up yet, is there anything here I should be aware of. Does it boot > off of the HD or just the floppy? I do have a boot floppy, but I've no > idea if it's any good. > > Zane > > > | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | > | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | > | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Mac Programmer | > +----------------------------------+---------------------------+ > | For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | > | and the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. | > | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ | >

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FS: IBM 5100 & need Apple FDD

by manney＠nwohio.com

$500 is the top offer so far. (that was more than I'd hoped to get). Manney -----Original Message----- From: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> To: Manney <Manney> Date: Friday, September 26, 1997 1:16 PM Subject: Re: FS: IBM 5100 & need Apple FDD >On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, PG Manney wrote: > >> I have a complete IBM 5100 system available (CPU, external drives, printer, >> all documentation). Works fine, so far as I know. >> >> Unfortunately, the guy has some money into it, and wants some for it. >> >> It is in Northwestern Ohio. >> >> Offers? > >$100? > >> p.s. I need an Apple disk drive...anyone have one? Is any one out there an >> Apple expert and is interested in answering questions? If so, please e-mail >> me. > >Ask away. I grew up on Apple. I also have several disk drives >available, plus controller cards, and other stuff. What did you need? > >Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- >Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass > > Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival > See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details! > > > >

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CLASSICCMP digest 187

by gmast＠polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu

Hey Sam, I told the last guy, they want $10, $10 for my pain + shipping (cheap for you, he was in Chicago). Get back to me ASAP! Greg Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 22:21:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)crl.com> To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu Subject: Re: Goodwill Stuff Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970926222040.17970F-100000(a)crl4.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 26 Sep 1997, Greg Mast wrote: > TI 99/4 Expansion Module. Big heavy sucker. Has a floppy in it and an > interface cable. Hey Greg, I'm interested in this. If no one else has jumped on it please grab it for me. How much is it? Thanks. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------- Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!

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Goodwill Stuff

by gmast＠polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu

I was at the Goodwill today and came across a couple interesting finds. The problem is that I'm trying not to accumulate any more of this stuff. If someone is interested in one of these, maybe we can work it out. I am in Central CA so shipping is kind of a pain for me. I guess you could make me an offer then I'll see if I can get it, then we'll do a deal. I'd just like to make it worth my trouble. I didn't buy these so if you're interested, send me an offer I guess. I'll cruise over there tomorrow and see if they're still around. Hate to see them get tossed. Email me before 9 AM PDT tomorrow or I doubt if I'll get over there again until middle of next week. TI 99/4 Expansion Module. Big heavy sucker. Has a floppy in it and an interface cable. Osborne Executive portable, works, KB, 5" (or so) amber monitor.

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CC> Management suggestion

by engine＠chac.org

Since I've been on the list for a few days now, I'm getting used to the volume of the traffic, but I have a suggestion to make managing it a bit easier. Like most of us, I suspect, I like to segregate the received traffic so I can archive it. Why don't we take a leaf from CYHIST's playbook and start putting a flag at the front of the Subject: (as I did above) to make it easier to sort? This would be especially valuable for me since I receive both list and non-list mail from a few people. TIA, __________________________________________ Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org http://www.chac.org/index.html Computer History Association of California

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DEC PDP-11's, Peripherals, Docs, Unix, etc. for sale; L.A., CA.

by c-bristol＠usa.net

How can I add my name to receive this list? c-bristol(a)usa.net TABLE OF CONTENTS: 1. SOUND EQUIPMENT 2. COMPUTER ANTIQUES (CORE memory, etc.) 3. COMPUTER EQUIPMENT (IBM style; non-IBM style) 4. OFFICE EQUIPMENT and FURNITURE (Fireproof Cab) 5. MISC. (Tools, Elec.Test Equip.,Bikes,Backpack) 6. BUILDING MATERIALS and TOOLS 7. THINGS I WANT TO BUY / TRADE FOR REPLY TO: c-bristol(a)usa.net From: Chris Bristol, a private party. All items are in Los Angeles, CA, USA. Reason for sale: moving overseas. All prices are very negotiable, and trades possible. ** COMPUTER ANTIQUES for your desktop or office wall, *********** ****************************** "an emerging collectable" ******** CORE MEMORY BOARDS: These are very pretty after you open the covers and show off the core planes. This type of memory was invented by Jay Forester of MIT in about 1955. Some of my boards are from MIT from my college days. The "1" or "0" is stored in little donut about 1 to 2mm in diameter--one donut per bit. Each donut is threaded by hand with two wires, one in the X axis, and one in the Y axis. This makes something that looks like a weird SciFi fabric. Then the fabric "planes" are stacked about 1/2 deep total. The thousands of hair-thin wires were hand assembled, generally by oriental women. Each wire connects to driver IC's and transistors, and control logic. This memory was non-volatile. These boards are mostly 16Kbytes, some 32Kbytes. They have pretty gold contacts, from the days before about 1968 when gold was thick and fixed at $20 per ounce. They were made for the PDP-11. Many of them work fine, if you have a PDP-11. Hang it on your wall in a glass case, to show you are not wet behind the ears in the computer business. Every computer museum should have one. $50 per board. HUGE FLOPPY DISKS, 8", Drive for this (DSD RX01) is below at $95. Put one or two of these 8" floppies on your wall, adding a 5 1/4" (also available) and 3 1/2" next to it. 8" floppies for $9 each, light to mail. PAPER TAPE: I have two paper tape readers, both work I think. I got one while at MIT, and it was built by an MIT company back in around 1960. It is all aluminum and stainless steel, very pretty. The other is a more normal factory made unit. I also have some fan-fold paper tape for these. My paper tape is software and diagnostics for DEC PDP-11's. $25. IBM CARDS: "Do not fold, spindle, or mutilate" they used to say. These have Fortran and other programs and data on them. Some cards have UCLA logo. $25. VERY BIG TAPE DRIVES, like you see in the movies. $130 for two, see listing under "PERTEC" below. Also, see below "DECTAPE", a very funny tape drive. In operation, both move back and forth all the time. The perfect atmosphere for your Cyber Caf?. Or buy a whole PDP-11 and display it, and maybe operate it. **** COMPUTER EQUIPMENT: ************************************** *IBM STYLE OR CAN BE USED WITH IBM: **************************** TAPE CARTIDGES, have about 30, $110 all obo, 3M DC-600, DC-300, DC-300A, 80 MB capacity, large 5" wide cartridges, many new shrink wrapped. IBM AT clone, Intel 80286 CPU, 12 SLOTS (ISA) good for hobbyist (normal is more like 6 slots or less), 1 MB Ram, Serial, Parallel, 40MB Seagate HDD, 2 5 1/4" floppies - one 1.2MB, Monochrome Monitor (orange phosphor) plugged into Hercules /CGA/MGA compatible display card, DOS 3.2, Framework, etc. software included, word processing, $100 all obo. DISK DRIVE, 5 1/4 inch style, 40MB IDE from an IBM AT compatible, 2 of them, $25 each FLOPPY DRIVE, 3 1/2", in its own cute stand-alone case that includes a power supply, $25 PRINTER, Diablo daisy wheel, built in stand on casters, with keyboard (this is a "printing terminal", about 30 characters per second, fully formed. Have 3 identical printers, $35 each. PRINTER, DEC LA36 Decwriter II, with its own stand, with keyboard (this is a "printing terminal"), about 30 characters per second, dot matrix, work horse, can print carbon multipart forms on 14" wide paper, tractor feed, $50. PRINTING portable terminal, Texas Instruments "Silent 700" thermal paper printer, built in acoustic modem (300BPS)and keyboard. $30 *** THE OTHER COMPUTER EQUIPMENT IS NOT IBM STYLE, ********* * MOSTLY OLD DEC PDP-11 STYLE: ****************************** DEC PDP-11/34A with BIG Tape and Disk (6 ft high 1978 computer, cost $25,000) with RT-11 & optional Unix SW, working, $300 DEC PDP 11/45 w BIG tape & disc, 1973 6ft high computer, cost $40,000, w/RT-11 & UNIX software/UNIX license, 16 timeshare ports (DH11), $300 EMULEX disk controller board for DEC-11 or VAX, model SC21/B1, new $4,500, still unused in box, with SMD cables, $300 COMPUTER TERMINAL, "dumb terminal", nice black and white display, high resolution, VT-100 emulation. (This is not a monitor, and not IBM or Mac compatible.) Detached keyboard, from 1985, pretty, with manuals, $80. DISK DRIVE, old removable, model CDC 9762, 80MB "hatbox" disk pack included, pack cleaned and tested, with two sets of SMD cables if you want, a little smaller than a washing machine, works with Emulex above, $150 DISK DRIVE, DEC RK05 removable 2.5MB, with about 5 or 10 cartridges that have been stored nicely in my closet, about 80 lbs, $200 with disk packs. DISK DRIVE, BALL 160 (fixed, 160MB SMD interf, about 80 lbs),$50. DISK DRIVE, WANGCO 5MB top load, rack mount 10" high, 70 lbs, with about 8 disk packs that were well stored, compatible with DEC RL01, $80 with packs FLOPPY DISK DRIVE, DSD, 2 8" floppies in 10" rack box, runs a PDP-11, copy of DEC RX01, $95. Optional: RT-11 set, source, XXDP Diagnostics, on floppies TAPE DRIVES, PERTEC 8640?, 800/1600 PE 10" reel to reel, 9-track, 100 lbs, Pertec unformatted interface, have 2 of them, $130 both TAPE CONTROLLERS, for above to PDP 11, imitate DEC TM11, Complete and worked: Western Peripherals 130, $50, not working: Plessy and another WP copies of TM11. About 8 lbs each for board set, system unit, cables. DH11 16 RS232 port DMA interface for PDP-11, made by DEC, $100 DECTAPE, bracelet size tape reels, hold only 256KB, two drives w/ctrl, big, museum piece, $150. RACKS, DEC H960 general purpose 19" "relay racks", with sides, back, fans, power box, 6'H 21"W 30"D, with rear rails. Start an ISP full of modems or put your stereo in a rack, have 3, $90each RACK, open 19" relay rack, just front frame, on base with casters, 6'H, 20"W, 25"D base on casters, $50 MULTIBUS SYSTEM, disassembled. Ran UNIX, 68000 CPU card, Tashio HDD/floppy controller, HDD (80MB?), Floppy (1.6MB?), Cardcage, RAM, software. $90. DEC Expansion Cabinets (you add controllers and RAM in these boxes, which plug into 120VAC): BA11ES, BA11L, etc. about $60ea DEC MODULES: DL11 serials, M930, Unibus Cables, Printer interface, boxes of misc. boards for PDP-11's, black plastic "bezels", etc. MODEMS: external 1200BPS and 2400BPS. Fancy for their day, 2400 does nice auto dial monitoring. RS-232. $15, $25. DOCUMENTATION: SOFTWARE: UNIX: full sets of docs for v.6, v.7, 4.1BSD, 4.2BSD, 4.3BSD, SUN OS2, SUN OS3, SunView. About 3 big file boxes of UNIX docs. Also have distribution tape of 2.9BSD for PDP-11 licensed to me from SCO (Santa Cruz Operation) and the PDP11 hardware it is licensed for. Cheap! DOCUMENTATION: SOFTWARE: DEC OS: Full set, RT-11 v2, v3, v4, partial RSX-11. Also have the software on floppy and RK05, and the PDP-11's that are licensed to run it. Cheap! Also Heathkit H-11 paper tape operating system, media and docs, new. DOCUMENTATION: HARDWARE: most all DEC PDP-11 docs from 1970-1985. Paper and microfiche. Also docs on compatibles from Plessy, Western Peripherals, Wangco, etc. Set of "Processor Handbooks" and "Perhipheral Handbooks". VIC-20 Commodore computer with tape deck, books, games, works, $75 **** SOUND EQUIPMENT: ***************************************** SPEAKERS, ACOUSTAT II, Audiophile full range electrostatic speakers, 5'H, 2'W, 6"D (thin), each plugs into 120VAC and to your amplifier, uses 4000 volts and no magnets to move silvered plastic film diaphragm, about 1/10 the distortion of conventional magnetic speakers, beautiful "reach out and touch it" realism of mid-range and high end, perfect for classical, simply-mixed vocals and acoustic instruments; appreciated by musicians. Like new with original boxes, black and walnut, new cost $2,200, sell $950 pair. Someone's comments on electrostatic speakers: http://www.digitaltheater.com/reviews/speaker21.html SPEAKERS: JANZEN Z-410 hybrid electrostatic speakers for audiophile. Uses 4 electrostatic panels, each 6" x 6", for mid-range and treble, blended with a conventional magnetic 10" woofer, all in a conventional large bookshelf type case of 15"W x 15"D x 28"H. Good compromise of electrostatic sound and conventional woofer; $500 the pair. TUBE FM TUNER, made by SHERWOOD, white front with gold color trim, brown steel rear case, uses green-glow tuning meter tube, works OK, cool looking, $110. CD PLAYER DECK, PHILLIPS (Netherlands) original CD player, top load, uses real blue-green gas laser (not cheap red LED laser like new players). Good for audiophile.(For your stereo, no amp or speakers included,) Works OK. $75. CASSETTE DECK; TEAC AN360S; High end deck from about 1980. Dolby, CR02 and all that, $65. TURNTABLE: PHILLIPS (Netherlands) 212A audiophile turntable with green touch-light switches for 33 and 45, straight fly-weight arm in integrated floating mount, including top of line Shure V15 type III cartridge, and spare cartridge of same type. Nice sound. $70 RECORD COLLECTION, mostly classic vinyl, a little audiophile. DOLBY B outboard processor, fancy unit made by Dolby labs with 2 huge 5" meters, 5"Hx18"Wx12"D front controls. $50. MXR 10-band stereo equalizer. For musician or home stereo or recording technician. Smaller than a cigar case, no display, only sliders. For portable use. RCA line ins/outs. $85. MIXER, TAPCO 6 in / 1 out mike mixer with 1/4" phone and XLR inputs and mechanical spring reverb. About 30 rotating controls. Condition: is beat up (I bought it used). $80 MICs and STANDS, assorted. POP and CLICK filter processor for LP records **** OFFICE EQUIPMENT AND FURNATURE: ************************** FIREPROOF safe-file cabinets w/S & G combo lock, (changeable), 2 drawer file, weighs about 250 lbs, one hr fire rated, very pro, letter size, 14"W x 33"D x 30"H, have 3, cost $1700 ea., sell $200 each FIREPROOF safe-file cabinet w S & G combo lock, (changeable), 4 drawer file, weighs about 500 lbs, one hr fire rated, very pro, letter size, 14"W x 33"D x 60"H, cost $2600, sell $350 TOOL CABINETS, steel, HD, 10 very deep drawers, for tools or parts, 29"H x 24"W x 30"D, have 2, $50 each TOOL CABINETS, tall, steel, HD, 20 very deep drawers, large, for tools or parts, 59"H x 24"W x 30"D, have 2, originally for IBM cards, $70 each STATIONARY CABINET, steel, 65"H x 30"W x 16"D, black, medium condition, $40 SHELVING, Industrial/warehouse steel type, 10 "units" for 7'H 4'W 3'D shelves, each unit 5 shelves, heavy angle iron verticals, nuts and bolts, most of shelves reinforced front and back, good for about 250 lbs per shelf. Also two units 7'H x 3'W x 3'D. Cost about $1900. Sell $400 all. **** MISC ****************************************************** OSCILOSCOPE, TEKTRONICS RM-31 (rack mount version of 531),Dual-trace 20 MHz, with probes, CA plug in, works well, about 35 lbs, $250. AUDIO SIGNAL GENERATOR, HP, rack mount, 19"W x 8" H x 9" D, 20Hz~20,000Hz, works OK, $50. FLOOR JACK for cars, 2 ton, consumer grade, with 2 jack-stands,$30. BLOCK AND TACKLE, large, 3/4" mannila rope, old, strong, $45 FLASH ATTACHMENT, HONEYWELL STROBONAR, used by professional newspaper photographers because puts out a lot of light, enabling shooting 80 feet away, rechargeable, $55. TELEPHONES: Small business telephones, 3 telephones each with 5 lines and hold button, Automatic Electric old style, but touch tone. No controller. All 3 for $75 BSR X-10 Home Automation hardware. A lot of it. 2 radio trasmitters, telephone controller, ultrasonic controller, 3-wire built in outlets, built in dimmer switches, appliance and lamp modules. CASSETTE RECORDER, portable, bigger than a cigar box, GE special variable speed, separately variable pitch using fancy chips, from 50% to 200% speed and no donald duck voice. For speech. AC/DC, cost $275, sell $100. CASSETTE RECORDER, portable, pocket size (walkman size), for dictation, standard cassettes, rechargeable, with extra bat. pack and extra charger, cost $200, sell $85. CASSETTE RECORDER, Sony TC-45, equal to size of a cigar box, with AC adapter, for dictation, good cond, $50. BACKPACK, green, external aluminum frame, med-lrg size, ex comd $20 BICYCLE #1, RALIEGH SUPER COURSE, 10-speed touring bike, top model, Reynolds 531 alum. Frame, alum. Rims, quick release hubs, Heret derailer/shifts, 25.5" frame, made in England, brown, when new was $500, $175. BICYCLE #2, RALIEGH GRAND PRIX, 10-speed touring bike, middle quality model, made in England, Campagnolo (Italy) derailer, 23.5" frame, green, when new was $275, $80. SHEEPSKIN CAR SEAT COVERS, for tall back one-piece with headrest, brand new and NEVER installed, high quality, black color (yes, black, or rather charcoal), cost $150, sell $45 the pair. VACUUM CLEANER, Hoover Dial-a-matic, best home upright ever made, very powerful, good beater brush, with full set of attachments (hose, drapes tool, big and small crevice tool, etc.), hard case, green, $75. VACUUM CLEANER, Kenmore, very old-1950, powerful, tank type, shaped like a big bullet (rotated ellipse cut flat at back) a little art deco, also will attach air to exhaust to become a blower, with attachments and extra paper bags and cloth bag. $50 MIMEOGRAPH PRINTING PRESS, AB DICK, electric, with auto counter shut off, paste ink comes through stencil wrapped on drum onto paper, lowest cost per copy ever (basically cost of the paper), loads 500 sheets at a time, 1 second per copy, popular with SciFi small volume self-publishers, very good condition, used it myself, $80. SO you don't smoke or drink; you're a man with no vices? Buy a.... VICE, large bench vice, maybe 25 lbs, $20 COMPRESSOR and SPRAY PAINT GUN, small cheap kind, 20' air hose, for painting cars, 1 pint gun capacity, can also use for filling car tires, but not enough air volume for most power tools. $50 AIR TANK, portable, looks like 20" high propane tank, stick pressure meter, for taking air to your car and such, $25; optional fancy blow-clean gun with tip set, $15. CHAIR, judge style, 4 casters, swivel and tilt, finished wood base and arm supports, black naugahyde (vinyl) back and armrests, black cloth bottom. $40. CHAIR, office type, low, black vinyl back and arm rests, black cloth bottom, chrome swivel and casters, so-so condition, $15 NIKON camera, model:NIKORMAT, contains meter, twist f-stop setting, with standard lense, about 1975 or earlier, non-AI mount fully manual, non-electric shutter, $125. TV, 12", AC, Black and White, $30. TV, 5", AC/DC (9 x "D" cell), Black and White, $25. TV, 19" color "portable", with remote, little used, $130. CAR REPAIR MANUALS: BMW 2002, 2x 3" looseleaf binders, orig. factory fancy manual, costs about $150, sell $45, also Haynes for 2002 thrown in // Chiltons for Toyota 4x4 pickup circa 1984 // Honda 600 factory looseleaf and Haynes both $35. ANSWERING MACHINES for telephone, older style, have two, both use two cassettes, simple Sanyo $30; Fancy Tandy 150 solinoid mech. and date/time digitally on tape, $55. DESK LAMPS, Flourescent (2 long tubes) adjustable arm clamp on type, old, have 3 of them, $15 each. **** BUILDING MATERIALS / TOOLS: ***************************** 12 AWG Wire for house wiring, solid, single conductor (for pulling) THNN, White, 2 500 foot spools, new, $20 both. SNAKE for pulling above wire, about 30 foot, used once, in yellow plastic $15. TAR PAPER, 1 roll, about 3' x 100' $15 FLOORING, 6' x 6' fake-wood parquet vinyl, Armstrong thick no-glue type, $12 **** THINGS I WANT TO BUY OR WILL TAKE IN TRADE FOR THE ABOVE **** DBX 4, DBX 3, or other COMPANDER (compressor-expander). This is a stereo sound processing box. Will also consider a peak limiter. POWER AMPLIFIER, stereo, at least 200 watts per channel, prefer MOSFET like products of David Hafler. COMPUTER STUFF, will not buy these, but will take in trade for things I am selling: any parts for Pentium style system, including VGA or SVGA monitor, color ink jet printer. PARTS FOR MY AUDIO AMPLIFIER: some very large capacitors, >50,000 Mfd, >125 WVDC / Transformer to build 105VDC 500Watt amplifier power supply (about 78 VAC RMS or 157 center-tap, over 6 Amps). CONVERSION of my 1/2" 9 Track big reel computer tapes to TR-3 or CD-ROM wanted. My 1/2" tapes are Unix Tar format. **** END OF LIST REPLY TO: c-bristol(a)usa.net I am a private party in Los Angeles, CA, USA.

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Apple III+ questions

by healyzh＠ix.netcom.com

Hi, Got a Apple III+ yesterday, not sure if it works, haven't powered it up yet, it was such a mess that I'm working on cleaning it up first. I just cracked the case open and notice that it has three AA batteries in a battery holder between the floppy drive and the power supply. They're in front of where the cards go. Finding AA's strike me as more than a little odd! Is this a user modification? Also I've been lucky enough to get a Profile drive with it, and the controller card is in the computer. As I've said, I've not powered the system up yet, is there anything here I should be aware of. Does it boot off of the HD or just the floppy? I do have a boot floppy, but I've no idea if it's any good. Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Mac Programmer | +----------------------------------+---------------------------+ | For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. | | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |

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Restoration questions.

by adam＠merlin.net.au

> I've got an Apple-I that I'm going to take out of a box in the attic and >try to set back up for showing/playing. Oooh. You have no idea what I would do just to see one of them, much less what I would do to own one. :) >I've seen several postings about what components "should" or "shouldn't" >be in a vintage system. What's the feeling on replacing TTL chips, voltage >regulators, etc? Should I scour the land to find "vintage" parts or can I >buy stuff from regular electronics stores? (I don't actually KNOW that I >need to replace anything yet, just asking) I also suggest that you try to be original, and document everything. And if you can avoid replacment, do so. The Apple I is a genuine collectable computer, and as such should be treated as per any genuine collectable - the more original it is, the more valuable it will be. >On a similar note: The Apple-I was a kit. Mine's just a bare board mounted >inside a plain aluminum box. Was there ever a case made for these? Or did >everyone just do what the guy who put mine together did? Apple sold them to "The Byte Shop" with no case, power supply or keyboard (all available seperatly), but in order to increase the sales the store commisioned cases from a local cabinetmaker. These were made of koa wood, and look extremly nice (to my tastes). I've always thought it would be keen to have a computer in a wooden case, but apple clearly beat me to it. Anyway, I believe I have a small gif around here somewhere of the Apple I in it's koa wood case - would you like me to send it along to you as an attachment? Adam.

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Spare Discrete Components?

by jrbrady＠delphi.com

On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 William Donzelli <william(a)ans.net> wrote: >It really depends on you. Many of us are packrats that keep just about >anything more useful than a burnt out light bulb. Others do not want to Uh, that's me -- much to the chagrin of my better half. >By all means, use this list for parts requests! Unless what you need is >truely exotic, I think (hope) most of us would sell the spare for the Ok, how about a 9511A or 9512 math co-processor chip (Intel 8231A or 8232)? The Intel web site has info on the 8231A only. Jameco, JDR Microdevices, and about 10 other catalogs make no mention of them. Thanks, Jason Brady jrbrady(a)delphi.com Seattle, WA

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Spare Discrete Components?

by jrbrady＠delphi.com

On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 Tim Shoppa <shoppa(a)alph02.triumf.ca> wrote: > :-). You've been looking at Compupro boards, haven't you? Tim, how'dja guess that? ;-) >I've got a small number of spare 25LS2521/74LS688's available if you >need them. (For those not in the know, these are address comparators >used on Compupro's S-100 boards.) That's okay, I have spares. >It is very worthwhile to have "backup" (i.e. paper and/or magnetic >media versions) of EPROM's and PAL's. Uh, oh. Compupro had a love affair with PALs. At least I have a programmer for the EPROMs. PALs are new to me - is stability an issue with these devices? > The most commonly blown parts >are line drivers, I find - and these are commodity parts most >of the time (i.e. 1488's/1489's). And the tantalum capacitors. Regards, Jason Brady jrbrady(a)delphi.com Seattle, WA

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HP 150 II (fwd)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Tony Duell <ard(a)odin.phy.bris.ac.uk> writes: > 1) Touchscreen is an user-installable option

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Spare Discrete Components?

by jrbrady＠delphi.com

On Fri, 26 Sep 1997 Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >Indeed. Sorting out things like that (and noting it in the service >manual) is a pleasant morning's work with a pile of data books. It helps >if you already know the TTL and standard EPROM pinouts. Working with electronics is a hobby, not my profession, so I don't mind doing a fair amount of research. For me it's the best way to learn, and I enjoy the challenge. [It helps repair the damage to my brain done during the day by my regular job!] Regards, Jason Brady jrbrady(a)delphi.com Seattle, WA

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FS: IBM 5100 & need Apple FDD

by manney＠nwohio.com

I have a complete IBM 5100 system available (CPU, external drives, printer, all documentation). Works fine, so far as I know. Unfortunately, the guy has some money into it, and wants some for it. It is in Northwestern Ohio. Offers? manney(a)nwohio.com p.s. I need an Apple disk drive...anyone have one? Is any one out there an Apple expert and is interested in answering questions? If so, please e-mail me.

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Trs80 model 4

by thedm＠sunflower.com

Nope, didn't know it was there. About all I know is how to format and copy. I'll have to look at that, thanks. ---------- > From: Charles E. Fox <foxvideo(a)wincom.net> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: Trs80 model 4 > Date: Friday, September 26, 1997 11:26 AM > > At 02:35 PM 9/25/97 -0500, you wrote: > >Anyone have a term program for this machine? Preferably on a disk that > >TRSDOS62 will read? > > > > > > > Have you checked out the "comm" utility program that is supposed to be > included in TRSDOS6? In my manual it is listed as "a communications package > for use with the RS-232C hardware".

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Computers in Movies (was: War Games)

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 09:48 AM 9/24/97 -0400, you wrote: >Do you remember what the palm top was in T2? Atari Portfolio (with the rare ATM interface kit (aka, the Tramiel special)) 8^) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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