- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Hi all I just found 3 packages of Masstor data cartridges. They are cylindrical about 2 1/2 inches in diameter, about 4 inches long and look to be covered with some sort of oxide surface. They are hollow and have a kind of snap in connector on one end. I have examined the Web and the only references I find are for large mass storage devices for supercomputer and particle accelerator labs. I seem to remember, from some movie, some sort of robot arm storage device that picked cylindrical cartridges out of a honeycomb structure and inserted them in to a reader/writer. Very large storage, about 360 GB, late 80's early 90's time frame. Any information would be approciated Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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by netsurfer_x1＠hotmail.com

>Those chips are 256K*1 DRAMs, so the card is a 512K memory card. My >guess >is that it's a close clone of the Tandy 512K RAM card (there >were several >such cards around when the CoCo 3 was in production), >and that it replaces >the standard 128K RAM on the CPU board (look >for 4 empty 18 pin sockets). > >You therefore have a 512K machine. > >-tony Wow!, I thought it to be a RAM expander, but I'd never thought it would be a 512K card. I'll check the sockets & see if they're empty. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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by netsurfer_x1＠hotmail.com

I have just recently picked up a Tandy Color Computer 3 (which I have nicknamed "Spectrum") at a local thrift store. After opening it up, I found an internal card plugged into some connectors on the system board. The card does not look to be a Tandy add-on. The unknown board bears a name of "DISTO CANADA" & has 16 Mitsubishi M5M4256P chips on it. What is this card? Is it some sort of internal RAM expander or internal disk controller card? Any help would be more than welcome. ____________________________________________________________ David Vohs, Digital Archaeologist & Computer Historian. Computer Collection: "Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, Double FDD, GeoRAM 512, Okimate 20. "Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II. "Delorean": TI-99/4A. "Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable. "Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3. ____________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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(OT) Re: Mail servers changes (INFO)

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<> Possibly. But only if you actually have common carrier status, or can <> make a credible claim that you should. Have they passed any law grantin <> such status to ISPs? I'd think that would be big news, and I haven't <> heard of it. Common carrier status is often implied as part fo a generic communications service. I had to deal with this 30 years ago with RCC(radio common carrier) otherwise known as UHF repeaters. We were if anything indirectly responseable for FCC language mandates if not by law certainly by possible civil penelty. So if we had a customer that tended to run a little hard with a seven deadly dirty words it was a risk to us as well. So it was a condition of service or else... Allison

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test

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

test William Roberts Certified TCP/IP Network Analyst ---------------------------------------------- IntelliSTAR(sm) Exclusive Provider of Internet LifeCycle Services(sm) http://www.intellistar.net - mailto:willr@intellistar.net 407-206-0788 - 407-206-0826 FAX Providing Residence for Professionals on the Internet(sm), Est. 1995 ----------------------------------------------

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Mail servers changes (INFO)

by classiccmp＠mrynet.com

Hans Franke wrote: > > > We have recently made changes to our mail servers here that may possibly > > affect some list users. In our ongoing effort to limit SPAM, our mail > > servers were recently configured to utilitize the MAPS RBL, DUL, and RSS > > databases (see www.mail-abuse.org for details). > > [...] (ie. they are "open relays"). [...] > > [...] We really really really dislike spam, and feel that this action is > > wholly appropriate. > > First of all, I realy apreciate your efforts to reduce SPAM, > and I feel that choosing your system was a real good isea. > > Just, I have a bad feeling about droping esential parts of > free networking - the shareing of resources. Only because > some Jerks missuse them. It's like puting an expiration > date on the driver licence and ask for renewal just because > some guys like to drive slow on the left lane. Or to ban > free speech just because some idiots don't know eht hey say ? I wholeheartedly support this MAPS RBL, et al, blocking. The simple fact-of-the-matter is, open relays are wrong. They are the result of bad administration and serve no purpose other than to provide spammers the mechanism to operate anonymously. Performing this SPAM blocking not only protects the subscribers of a list from the resultant abuse of mismanaged mail servers, it forces legitimate operators of mail systems to properly administrate their machines. If a subscriber finds themselves receiving reject responses to their submissions, they should receive within the reject reason a reference to the URL for the service which has listed them or their mail relay as a SPAM source or Open Relay. The submitter should either correct their local problem, or notify their ISP or mail server administration of the issue. The SPAM/anti-relay database servers all provide for quick and fair consideration for removal from these lists once the blocking issue is resolved. To say that this will "ban free speech" is totally unwarranted. There is absolutely no reason for an open relay EXCEPT to facilitate spam. The InterNet is much too sophisticated for any claim of necessity for such a facility. Anonymity is not a factor in Free Speech. I applaud this action, and encourage everyone with the ability to have their mail agents interract with the MAPS RBL, and other databases, to fully support and integrate this spam-blocking service. Respectfully, Scott G. Taylor -- Scott G. Akmentins-Taylor InterNet: staylor(a)mrynet.com MRY Systems staylor(a)mrynet.lv (Skots Gregorijs Akmentins-Teilors -- just call me "Skots") ----- Labak miris neka sarkans -----

26 years, 2 months

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IBM 4381 92E on eBay

by pat＠transarc.ibm.com

See http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=267844859 --Pat.

26 years, 2 months

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Soldering to PCB traces?

by DSEAGRAV＠toad.xkl.com

I have here a perfectly good SCSI device I'd like to use, it's just that the +12V pin in the power connector has broken off. Can I just solder another pin right on the trace on the PCB, or is there some sealer over the traces? (Or anything else I should know about?) -------

26 years, 2 months

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Need docs for Lemark 4033-001 token ring print server

by rhblake＠bigfoot.com

I have 5 Lexmark type 4033-001 print servers for token ring coming to install on a small network for a non-profit group but I don't seem to be able to locate any docs on Lexmark's site. Anyone either know of a URL for a text or PDF file, or have one they could photocopy and mail (with reimbursement of course)??? Russ Blakeman Clarkson, KY

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Nice article in Wired 8.03 on "Retroactivism"

by mgregory＠vantageresearch.com

There's a good article in this month's Wired on what they call "retroactivism" - people using trailing edge computers in preference to the latest Wintel box - for all the reasons we're familiar with: stability, well-understood O/Ses, nostalgia, etc. The VCF gets some mention, and several classiccompers (notably Allison Parent) are quoted. A good, balanced article that doesn't have the faintly mocking tone of that other recent article (in the magazine with Rosie the Robot on the cover). Cheers, Mark.

26 years, 2 months

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Computer/Ham Swapmeets

by pryor＠wi.net

Does anyone know of a site listing upcoming swapmeets? I'm interested mainly in the midwest area. Dayton Hamvention? Trenton Computerfest? thanks... Jim

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FW: MicroVAX II hardware available

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Found on Usenet. Anyone in or near the Czech republic want to do a rescue? (Hey, one never knows!) Reply to sender directly if interested. -=-=- <snip> -=-=- From: "lm" <l.m(a)c.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: MicroVAX II for sale Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:34:54 +0100 Organization: Compaq Computer Corp. Lines: 35 Message-ID: <893c1q$3je$1(a)mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 16.193.136.44 X-Trace: mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com 951399290 3694 16.193.136.44 (24 Feb 2000 13:34:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet(a)mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Feb 2000 13:34:50 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Path: news.jps.net!news-west.eli.net!sdd.hp.com!enews.sgi.com!paloalto-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!newsgate.tandem.com!mailint03.im.hou.compaq.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.jps.net comp.os.vms:8076 Dear Sir, I recieved data from one small company in our region in Czech Rep., which is selling their computers. This computers are eight years old and it`s MicroVAX II with spare part. They are looking for a customer, that wants buy this MicroVAX II or spare parts. Below you can find part numbers of this spare parts : 2 x TU81E-DB 3000 MASS-STORAGE 4 x RA82-ED 3261 RA82 622MB 14 inch SDI-DISKS 1 x KDA50-QA 3452 KDA50 MICROVAX2/PDP11 TO RA-DISKS Q-BUS CONTR. 1 x TK70-AA 3360 TF/K70 296MB, 90KB/S (NON)/DSSI DLT TAPE-DRIVE - 5.25" CARTRIDGE TAPE DRIVE WITH TK5 1 x TQK70-AA 3360 TF/K70 296MB, 90KB/S (NON)/DSSI DLT TAPE-DRIVE - Q22 TMSCP CNTLR FOR TK70-AA,30" CAB 1 x DHQ11-M 5456 DHQ11/ 8 LINE ASYNC COMM CTLR 1 x KA630-AA 2450 MicroVAX II - QUAD Q22 MICROVAX CPU MODULE: CPU,F 1 x MS630-AA 2450 MicroVAX II - 1 MB MEM EXP FOR KA630,DUAL HEIGHT 1 x DELQA-M 5460 DELQA/ COMM CTLR ETH TO Q-BUS - DEC ETHERNET QBUS ADAPTOR If you have interest about this offer, please contact Mr. Holan tel.: ++420-602-239252 or e-mail : DECOMP(a)email.cz or ludek.mrkva(a)compaq.com Best Regards Ludek Mrkva -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies -- kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech [dot] com Web: http://www.bluefeathertech.com "...No matter how we may wish otherwise, our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot possibly define any of them..."

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Computer/Ham Swapmeets

by KB9VU＠aol.com

Dayton is May 19, 20 and 21

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Computer/Ham Swapmeets

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Nick Oliviero <oliv555(a)arrl.net> wrote: > Does anyone know when the Foothill (Palo Alto) meet comes off of > its winter hiatus? I'd like to get to the seasons opening event. If past years are any guide, I'd guess it would be 11 March. (2nd Saturday of the month, March through October.) -Frank McConnell

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I found an HP150 (model 45851A?)--how do I make it work?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Peter Pachla" <peter.pachla(a)wintermute.org.uk> wrote: > If that's the one which looks very much like the terminals HP supply with > their HP 3000 series mainframes then I'd very much like to get my hands on > one (not to mention an HP-120 or 125). There are two styles of 150. One is the 150A/B, and in rough outline it looks something like a 120 or 2382 terminal but does have different casework from those. These models have a 9-inch display screen; I think the only differences between A and B are the ROM'd firmware and accompanying MS-DOS version (and I do recall that it was possible to upgrade a 150A to a 150B with a firmware-and-software swap) but someone else may know better. Then there is the 150-II aka 150C aka Touchscreen II. It's in a boxy enclosure with tiltable 12" display screen. I think the 2392 terminal might have similar styling (2393 does not, it uses the 37531A pale green-screen monitor with the terminal logic in a separate box). After HP introduced the Vectra (PC-compatible, at least more so than the 150) and 150 sales dropped off, and ran out of 2647F terminals, HP started shipping 150-IIs as consoles for /68 and /70 systems. (Maybe /64s too.) Unfortunately I have no idea what kind of terminals HP sell these days. 700/9x? I don't think they ever made a 150 that looks like those, although they did make some monochrome VGA monitors in a similarly-styled case. -Frank McConnell

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Thrift store finds...

by af-list＠wfi-inc.com

Book day today...I passed up 15 books I would have liked to have but was too stingy to shell out the $$$ for. What I did pick up is: Electronic data Processing, E. Wainright Martin, 1961. Intel Microprocessor and Peripheral Handbook, vol.2, 1987. 68000 Assembly Language Programming, Kane/Hawkins/Leventhal, 1981. Motorola MC68020 User's Manual, 1984. I also grabbed a couple of genuine Apple mousepads and a Macally clone keyboard for $2. They also had an HP terminal keyboard, but no terminal. I'm keeping my eyes open... Cheers, Aaron

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Computer/Ham Swapmeets

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- James Pryor <pryor(a)wi.net> wrote: > Does anyone know of a site listing upcoming swapmeets? > > I'm interested mainly in the midwest area. The best resource I know is the ARRL - http://www.arrl.com/hamfests.html You can search by region or State. > Dayton Hamvention? http://www.hamvention.org/ > Trenton Computerfest? Dunno... never been. -ethan ===== Infinet has been sold. The domain goes away on 15 March. See http://www.infinet.com/ for details. Please update your address lists to reflect my new address: erd(a)iname.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

26 years, 2 months

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Machines available, Birmingham UK.

by peter.pachla＠wintermute.org.uk

Hi Due to the arrival of an RS/6000 and another MicroVAX II I really need to get rid of the following gear....quickly! Available free, or in exchange for stuff I can use (email me for a copy of the wants list): 3Com 3Station x2 286 based, PC compatible diskless workstations. Acorn BBC Model B Apple file://e CBM +4 Complete system, including tapes and cartridges. CBM C-16 Machine only. CBM PET 4032 (small screen) CBM PET 4032 (large screen) CBM PET 8032 x2 CBM PET 8096 C/W 8050 drives, 8032P printer, software & manuals. DEC DECMate III IBM PC System Units NCR system Integral monitor, printer and tape drive. Tandy CoCo II Complete with a couple of cartridges. There may also be a bunch of other stuff to come too, depending on whether people who previously showed an interest still want it. Email me directly please, let's not clog up the list with this. TTFN - Pete. -- Hardware & Software Engineer. Sound Engineer. Collector of Arcade Machines, Games Consoles & Obsolete Computers (esp DEC) peter.pachla(a)wintermute.org.uk | www.wintermute.org.uk --

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Stuff to trade/stuff I'm looking for

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Aaron Christopher Finney <af-list(a)wfi-inc.com> wrote: [Aaron's looking for:] > A keyboard for my HP2649 terminal > > HP2392, HP2622, or HP2645 terminal. I need one for my 3000 (using a laptop > with an HP term program right now). The 2649 I have is dubious; I get a > screen full of what looks like garbage to me, but then again, I don't have > a keyboard and, in addition, the 2649 is interesting in that it could have > a custom program on it for something other than being a straight terminal. I can't remember whether the terminal would come up without the keyboard (but I think so), and I don't really know for sure what is inside a 2649 though I think it's not too different from a 2641/2645/2648, meaning an 8080 processor...unfortunately my memory's far enough gone that I don't really remember what's inside a 2645 either beyond a bunch of boards. But those boards would be things like a processor card (which I think also has ROM and about 1KB of RAM), a keyboard interface, a datacomm interface, one or more cards for the display, and zero or more memory cards. Some of the cards (but not the memory) would also be joined at their tops by a sort of "frontplane" interconnect board. That said, there's limited interchangeability between 264X terminal keyboards. Once upon a time I swapped keyboards and keyboard interface cards between a 2640B and 2645A just to see if I could, and it mostly worked. Of course, there was the matter that the 2640B keyboard didn't have all the same keys, and its baud rate switch wasn't labeled above 2400. So far as the 3000's concerned, you could also use 262x (for x>1; 2621 will work for character mode but will not support VPLUS block-mode applications), 2382 (which is nice and small but has a 9" display), 239x, or 700/9x terminals. Or an HP150, which pretends to be a 2623A graphics terminal when it's not being a personal computer. BTW, I think you mentioned passing up some HP terminal keyboards, and you might want to stop that, as the keyboards have a habit of becoming detached from the rest of the terminal on their way through the surplus food chain. Once you start thinking about network configuration with NMMGR, a 264X terminal can be a problem as later versions of NMMGR were made to use the terminal's function key display area for some screens, and 264X terminals don't have a function key display area. I have no idea why NMMGR was changed; as near as I can tell it was mostly gratuitous on HP's part and NMMGR will still function correctly, you just have to know which function keys correspond to which functions on those screens. (Guess who was still using a 2645 as the system console and only hardwired terminal on his 3000/58. Fortunately, I did know which buttons to push.) On the other hand, the 2645 will run Space Invaders, and I wouldn't be surprised to find that the 2649 would too. > An HD for my HP3000 that will fit in the bottom rack space. I've gotten > some great info from Joe Rigdon on models and have my eyes open; I need > something big enough so that I can do the initial install of MPE V 3P with > full subsys (it's been estimated that I need at least 100mb or so). A 7958 is about (a little larger than, I think) 100MB and will work and fit in a 3000/37 cabinet. 7958B is faster than 7958A if it matters. I think bigger numbers (e.g. 7959 and 796x) are larger capacities. -Frank McConnell

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CD rom from "Microsoft Access 2.0 How-To CD" book

by jott＠saturn.ee.nd.edu

Hello - I know this doesn't meet the 10 year rule, but it is obsolete. I bought a copy of this book. When I got home I noticed the CD was missing. I called the publisher to buy copy of the CD. They told me the book was out of print and couldn't sell me a CD. I ask if I found one, could I leaglly make a copy. They said yes. I am looking for the cd in order to make a copy. I have a cd burner. Thanks. john -- ************************************************************************ * * * * John Ott * Email: jott(a)saturn.ee.nd.edu * * Dept. Electrical Engineering * * * 275 Fitzpatrick Hall * * * University of Notre Dame * Phone: (219) 631-7752 * * Notre Dame, IN 46556 USA * * * * * ************************************************************************

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OT: Question about GIF optimisation

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>Is there any tool known to optimize GIF files in size ? >It hapened that I just changed some GIFs and without >changeing the content the files did grow. After some >research I found that the editor I used adds some headers >(or whatever) structures, increasing the file size. >Not a big increase, but if a 900 Byte picture grows >to 1100 I'd like to remove the overhead. The best way is to convert the GIF into a "portable" bitmap (i.e. nothing but the bits), then back into a GIF again. I've been doing this for a decade with a package called NetPBM: NetPBM, GRAPHICS, Suite of graphic image format manipulation & conversion pgms Enhanced portable bitmap toolkit. The PBMPLUS toolkit allows conversions between image files of different format. By means of using common intermediate formats, only 2 * N conversion filters are required to support N distinct formats, instead of the N**2 which would be required to convert directly between any one format and any other. The package also includes simple tools for manipulating portable bitmaps. As of the last release I built (early 90's), it was supposedly available at: * wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4), directory /graphics/graphics/packages/NetPBM * ikaros.fysik4.kth.se (130.237.35.2), directory /pub/netpbm. * ftp.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (134.106.1.9). This site also carries binaries for the Amiga. * peipa.essex.ac.uk (155.245.115.161), directory ipa/src/manip * ftp.rahul.net (192.160.13.1), directory /pub/davidsen/source * ftp.cs.ubc.ca, directory /ftp/archive/netpbm What *I* like about NetPBM is that it's a command-line tool, not a "point-and-drool" graphics tool. This means that when I have a few thousand images to convert (as I just did yesterday) that I can do them all with a command script. I especially like it for things like auto-cropping and twiddling colormaps to make backgrounds be "transparent". -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

26 years, 2 months

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HP9114B battery pack

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<It's supposed to be a Panasonic 'block' type battery. A similar battery <was used in the Portable+, and the service manual for that machine <clearly shows an assembly of 3 Cyclon cells. So it looks like either <could be used. The difference is they are both gelled electrolyte lead acid cells, No difference. Therefor the working voltages and charing conditions will be very similar. SCR based chargers like that will not work if the cells are open circuit or sulphated (high resistance failure). Allison

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I found an HP150 (model 45851A?)--how do I make it work?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Peter Pachla" <peter.pachla(a)wintermute.org.uk> wrote: > No, I wasn't suggesting it didn't - just that for some reason all the ones > I've ever seen (at radio rallies mostly) have been without the touch > screen.... By the time of the Touchscreen II, lots of us who had deployed 150A/Bs had concluded that while the 150 wasn't that bad, touch screens were not all that they were cracked up to be. You had to take a hand off the keyboard and reach up and touch the screen, and if you had to do this a lot it resulted in a sort of fatigue that was called "gorilla arm", and there were usually ways to do what you wanted from the keyboard (either a function key or tab around some and then press a function key or Enter). So most users didn't bother with it after the novelty wore off. So when it became an extra-cost option we really couldn't see paying for it. Besides, who wants a bunch of fingertip-sized smudges on the screen? -Frank McConnell

26 years, 2 months

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Diode help... HELP!

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Well, the obvious chip to use for this application would be an 8-input <priority encoder like the 74x148. I have no idea if there was ever a 3.3V <version of this chip, though. No there wasn't, t was never that commonly used. As to a chip to do what a simple diode encoder can do is beyond me. Allison

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Diode help... HELP!

by edick＠idcomm.com

I'll bet you've gained a real appreciation for DIP or SIP packaged DIODES! Dick -----Original Message----- From: Bill Sudbrink <bill(a)chipware.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 8:10 AM Subject: RE: Diode help... HELP! >Well... Here's what happens when you make assumptions >and start to panic. > >Turns out the problem was simple. The pins were being >pulled up to 3.3 not down to ground. All my diodes >were backwards. Reverse the diodes, problem solved. > >Thanks everybody for the help. > >Bill >

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11/785 available - contact original author

by mbg＠world.std.com

- - - - - Are they any web sites or companies that might be interested in buying or taking away (for free) a 11/785 that is getting ready to be unplugged? tia Shale(a)sclay.com - - - - -

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Archive Viper Data Cartridge Drive - Available for cost of shippi ng

by jdykstra＠nortelnetworks.com

I've got an Archive "Viper" 150 MB. data cartridge drive with SCSI interface, model 2150S, available to the first responder for the cost of shipping. The drive worked the last time I used it (several years ago), but there's no warranty. The belt, heads and capstan are unworn and appear in good condition. This is the drive only--no enclosure or power supply. If you want them, I also have seven data cartridges. Althrough they physically fit this drive, they may not all be accepted by the drive's firmware--I have a half memory that certain drives only worked with certain cartridges. If you want this drive and the cartridges, email me your address, desired method of shipping, and whether you want the cartridges. If I don't hear anything by Wednesday, it goes up on eBay. ---- John Dykstra jdykstra(a)nortelnetworks.com Principal Software Architect voice: +1 651 415-1604 Nortel Networks fax: +1 612 932-8549

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11/785 available

by Jgzabol＠aol.com

In einer eMail vom 2/23/100 3:39:04AM, schreiben Sie: << Uh, you don't think they'd let me take this on the plane as carry-on luggage, huh? I'm going to be in SF on Monday for work... >> According to my experience, shipping this beast would be around US$ 1000,- (within US or to Europe, not counting forwarding within Europe). Not too bad for a solid item like this, I believe. John G. Zabolitzy Munich, Germany

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Two VMS software tapes available

by af-list＠wfi-inc.com

I finally built a rack for my 9track tapes and went through them all. In addition to what looks like an entire software distribution for my (still dead) Cadnetix system, I found two VMS tapes, available to anyone interested: XDS-11 Base Package Signetics' Amaze Rev.C Binary (must be an *ancient* version of this, marked 1985) Cheers, Aaron

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Diode help... HELP!

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Sounds like a job for an IC, like 8 bit parallel to serial using one dip <switch input for serial data perhaps clocked by sequential reads. Maybe a <bit binary to octal? 8 bit multiplexer? He wants to do a diode encode for three switches 8 possible states. The reverse would be to decode two bits to sense the state of three switches to be read on a single bit port. <Sheesh, I shudder to think how many pens are busy on the backs of envelope <right now. Only to show what's in my memory. :) That is a textbook circuit. Allison

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Diode help... HELP!

by mcquiggi＠sfu.ca

Tell the group what you're trying to do, based on your requirements there are several alternatives! What type of application is this for? Kevin On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:06:49 -0500 classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org wrote: > Hi, > > Once again demonstrating my vast quantities of ignorance... > I need a diode which completely blocks current in one direction > and presents as little resistance in the other direction > as possible. I bought a fist full of little glass ones at > Radio Shack for 50 cents. On my Ohm meter, they show no > conductance in one direction and 1400KOhm the other way. > What do I need to get? RS (which is the only resource I > have available, I need them like _NOW_) has many different > kinds of diodes, ranging up to two dollars per pair. > > Thanks, > Bill Sudbrink

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11/785 available

by oliv555＠arrl.net

For anyone that may be interested, a posting just came up on comp.sys.dec.micro offering (free) a VAX11/785. No location specified. Did'nt copy over his text as im not sure if its 'kosher' to do so without posters permission. Good luck, Nick

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Some h/w free for shipping and some s/w FS.

by kstumpf＠unusual.on.ca

Still trying to empty free-up space in my "ware"house. If you would like an HP-IB cable or the tilt/swivel base for the original IBM PC monitor, please send your mailing address to me in a private message. First come first served. I'll confirm things with you and tell you the shipping costs. Also have a complete copy of PC Tools Version 6 for US$8 plus shipping, and something called Software Carousel (1987) for US$5 plus shipping. Please send a private message to me if you are interested. Yours in good faith. Kevin Stumpf - The Nostalgic Technophile www.unusual.on.ca - 519.744.2900 EST/EDT (GMT - 5) Author & Publisher of The Guide to Collecting Computers and Computer Collectibles: History, Practice, and Technique

26 years, 2 months

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TI DS990/1

by aek＠spies.com

there is a dissassembly of the boot rom for the 990/4 up at www.spies.com/aek/orphan.html now, along with one for the 990/12. If you have a way to dump the boot proms, it would be interesting to see how similar they were. If you have a way to take pictures of the boards, I'd be curious to see what the I/O cards look like, esp the floppy controller board.

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How many Vaxes?

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dan Kolb <daniel.kolb(a)corpus-christi.oxford.ac.uk> > To: <port-vax(a)netbsd.org> > Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2000 5:20 > Subject: Re: How many Vaxes? > > > On a semi-related note, what sort of Vaxen do people on this list My list of personal VAXen: 1 MicroVAX-II in BA-123 w/9MB & RD54 (154MB), TQK50 and TU80 (Dilog controller), SRC COMBOARD-Q, DZV-11, uninstalled KDA50, running VMS 6.1 1 MicroVAX-II in BA-23 w/9MB & RD54, KDA50, DZV-11 and DEQNA, running VMS 5.5 1 MicroVAX-I in BA-23 w/4Mb & RD52, DZV-11 running MicroVMS 4.2 1 MicroVAX-I parts machine 1 VAX 8300 w/16Mb & RA81 (450Mb), 3rd party SDI-to-ESDI bridge w/two 1.2GB ESDI disks, KDB50, unresponsive DEBNT (cable problems?) running VMS 5.5 1 MicroVAX 2000 w/10Mb? & RD54, DHT32 8-port expander, TK50Z-FA 1 MicroVAX 2000 untested w/external RD54 box 3 VAXstation 2000 untested w/mice, keyboards, mono monitors. 1 VAX-11/750 w/8Mb & RA81 w/DMF-32, Massbus interface (TU78 is 220V and was not moved with CPU), SI9900 disk interface w/Fuji 160Mb+Eagle disks, multiple Emulex 16-port serial cards, UDA-50, 56K DEC sync card for DDCMP, RUX50 interface, TU80 interface, LP11 interface, s/n BT000354, running VMS 4.5 1 VAX-11/750 w/14Mb, multiple DZ-11, TS-11 controller, Massbus controller, SI 9900 controller, Fuji Eagles and RM03s not moved with CPU due to transportation problems. 1 VAX-11/730 w/5Mb & RB80 (121Mb), DMF-32, VMS 5.4 With all of that, only one MicroVAX-II, one MicroVAX 2000 and the VAX 8300 have been powered on in the past year. The Unibus VAXen are in deep storage. On the way is a VAXstation 3100-90 w/64MB and 1.5GB disk, TLZ30 and TK50Z-GA, but no ETA as of yet. :-( -ethan ===== Infinet has been sold. The domain is going away in February. Please send all replies to erd(a)iname.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

26 years, 2 months

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Diode help... HELP!

by bill＠chipware.com

Hi, Once again demonstrating my vast quantities of ignorance... I need a diode which completely blocks current in one direction and presents as little resistance in the other direction as possible. I bought a fist full of little glass ones at Radio Shack for 50 cents. On my Ohm meter, they show no conductance in one direction and 1400KOhm the other way. What do I need to get? RS (which is the only resource I have available, I need them like _NOW_) has many different kinds of diodes, ranging up to two dollars per pair. Thanks, Bill Sudbrink

26 years, 2 months

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TI DS990/1

by jbdigriz＠dragonsweb.org

Today's acqisition here is a TI DS990 Model 1 Intelligent Terminal. This designation appears to be a complete misnomer as it is in fact a full microcomputer. The case appears to be laid up in fiberglass from the same mold as a TI 820 KSR, and the logic bus has 86 pins, which I recall >from other terminals of the late '70s, but it has a 3 Mhz TMS9900 processor (nice BIG white ceramic JDL part with gold pins), 64K of ram (4116's, plus parity), a TMS9900 based I/O controller board, 2 asych serial cards, floppy disk controller, and a VDU controller. Going by the configuration table on the back of the case there were other options available as well, including "GPH", which I am wondering whether might be some sort of bit-mapped graphics display. The backplane has a total of 12 slots, 7 occupied. There are what appear to be 3 serial connectors on the back of the case, but they do not connect directly to the serial cards. They go through the bus apparently. I've never had my hands on an 820, but I don't think they're this elaborate, and the 911 VDT's I have certainly aren't. Nice hefty modular 200W linear power supply with its own bus, too. This particular unit has seen some rough handling at some point, and is missing a few keycaps, but it is clean, and powers up. There's a nice raster on the screen, but no cursor. Apparently it must boot off a disk. There's a 25 pin connector on the back of the case which must be for a cable to a FD800/1000 dual 8" drive (which I don't have yet). The "IDLE" and "EXEC" lights on what amounts to a minimal front panel on the keyboard light up, but that's it. No "ERR", anyway. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, so I can track down the problem. In actual use, from what I was told, it was probably hooked up by modem to Tymshare, the predecessor of Tymnet, and thence to a central facility. It has lttle bezels on the front shoulders of the case that identify it as a Tymshare Travel Business System BS2000. As an aside, I did a little searching, and apparently MCI/Worldcom is still running Tymnet, now on rackmount Sparc-based nodes rather than the earlier PDP-10's.and M68K's (I preferred Telenet for X.25; they were always a year or two ahead on dial-in speeds where I was.) Anyway, if anyone has manuals or software, in particular a bootable system disk, for this machine, I'm all ears. Likewise, if anyone has any questions about it, I'll do my best to answer them. jbdigriz -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- DragonsWeb Labs - Custom R&D, Software, & Hardware ---------------------------------------------------------------- Tagline for Tuesday, February 22, 2000 If rabbits feet are so lucky, what happened to the rabbit? ---------------------------------------------------------------- James B. DiGriz - jbdigriz(a)dragonsweb.org - (912) 653-5139 ----------------------------------------------------------------

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Information still needed for Infotron IF/65 Development System II for 65XX microprocessors and CUBIT EPROM Programming board - AIM-65 or KIM ?

by elvey＠hal.com

Hi All I just made a mistake in sending to the group. I only meant to send to Bill. As it turns out, ther was no issue. Bill had borrowed the picture. I hope no one takes it against hxho(a)pacbell.net. He only loaned the picture and I was just checking the double match. Please forgive me Dwight

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Diode help... HELP!

by edick＠idcomm.com

Actually, germanium diodes, e.g. 1N43A, 1N270, etc, have a forward voltage on the order of 0.32 volts. There are numerous SCHOTTKY diodes with considerably lower forward voltage. Check the DigiKey catalog for possible candidates. Their catalog lists forward voltage as a characteristic. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Jack Noble <apple(a)cmc.net> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 3:39 PM Subject: Re: Diode help... HELP! >Germanium diodes have the least amount of voltage drop while conducting >(about .06 volts I think) and a popular one that should be readily available >is the 1N34 or 1N34A. The reason that diodes seem to act funny on an >ohmmeter is because of the fwd voltage drop while conducting. The silicon >diodes that you probably got at radio shack have a fwd drop of more than .5 >volts and will appear as a high resistance to your meter even though they >are conducting. Hope this helps > >Noble >-----Original Message----- >From: Bill Sudbrink <bill(a)chipware.com> >To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 1:44 PM >Subject: Diode help... HELP! > > >>Hi, >> >>Once again demonstrating my vast quantities of ignorance... >>I need a diode which completely blocks current in one direction >>and presents as little resistance in the other direction >>as possible. I bought a fist full of little glass ones at >>Radio Shack for 50 cents. On my Ohm meter, they show no >>conductance in one direction and 1400KOhm the other way. >>What do I need to get? RS (which is the only resource I >>have available, I need them like _NOW_) has many different >>kinds of diodes, ranging up to two dollars per pair. >> >>Thanks, >>Bill Sudbrink >

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More on the HP9114B

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

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Information still needed for Infotron IF/65 Development System II for 65XX microprocessors and CUBIT EPROM Programming board - AIM-65 or KIM ?

by whdawson＠mlynk.com

Hello to all, I'm still looking for information for these items: Firstly, an Infotron IF/65 Development System II. It appears to connect via RS-232 to a dumb terminal for its output of such things as address and data, and perhaps input of some parameters such as uP clock rate; baud rate is selectable from a thumbwheel. This system also appears to have the capability of single stepping the program contained in the device in the ZIF. It has a 28 pin ZIF socket for the targets EPROM/PROM/ROM. There is a standard ribbon cable that connects to a pod, and the pod has a braided ribbon cable that terminates at a 40 pin dip header, most likely to attach to the target in place of the uP. Trap conditions are selectable via four 0 to F thumbwheels, and conditions to be triggered on can be selected as memory data read, memory data written, and/or op-code. Any information would be greatly appreciated, a source of a manual or instructions for use would be fantastic. This equipment can be viewed at http://www.wpic.com/whdawson/Pics/infotron.gif and secondly: A CUBIT EPROM programming board for the AIM-65. It is not an RM65 board, the connector will plug right onto the expansion connector on an AIM, but can also be attached with an appropriate 1-to-1 ribbon cable. Here is the description: Measures 4-7/16 (4.4375)inches wide by 6-1/2 (6.5) inches long, including edge connector, lengthwise insertion. 44 pin gold plated edge connector with a 44 pin socket mounted immediately behind and parallel to the edge connector, on the component side of the PCB. 24 pin ZIF connector in the upper LH corner, viewing with the edge connector facing me (all descriptions below assume this position). 10 position DIP switch immediately to the right of the ZIF socket (no labeling), and another 10 position dip switch about halfway up the RHS, labeled 1 to 7 and B, C, D (probably address selection since one row of pins is all tied common and most of the pins on the other side of it go to a 74LS154). One LED, immediately to the right of the first 10 position DIP switch mentioned above, at the edge of the board. Two trimpots about center of the far edge of the board, to the right of the LED. Two jumper blocks, one with 2 pins, labeled W1, and one with 3 pins, labeled RO and RA. Two Toshiba 24 pin TMM2016P-1 RAMs left of center in second row of DIPs on the board. One 2516-45 EPROM to the left of the RAMS, with a label on top "6517A". On the solder side the only markings (in etch) are CUBIT INC, 1981 and the numbers 10362 and 6583. Most of the date codes on the ICs are between 8037 and 8203. There is no other model number, manufacturer, or other ID marking on this board. This programmer can be viewed at http://www.wpic.com/whdawson/Pics/cubit.jpg Thanks, Bill whdawson(a)mlynk.com

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Diode help... HELP!

by apple＠cmc.net

Germanium diodes have the least amount of voltage drop while conducting (about .06 volts I think) and a popular one that should be readily available is the 1N34 or 1N34A. The reason that diodes seem to act funny on an ohmmeter is because of the fwd voltage drop while conducting. The silicon diodes that you probably got at radio shack have a fwd drop of more than .5 volts and will appear as a high resistance to your meter even though they are conducting. Hope this helps Noble -----Original Message----- From: Bill Sudbrink <bill(a)chipware.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 1:44 PM Subject: Diode help... HELP! >Hi, > >Once again demonstrating my vast quantities of ignorance... >I need a diode which completely blocks current in one direction >and presents as little resistance in the other direction >as possible. I bought a fist full of little glass ones at >Radio Shack for 50 cents. On my Ohm meter, they show no >conductance in one direction and 1400KOhm the other way. >What do I need to get? RS (which is the only resource I >have available, I need them like _NOW_) has many different >kinds of diodes, ranging up to two dollars per pair. > >Thanks, >Bill Sudbrink

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Diode help... HELP!

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Bill: You should test your diodes with an OHM Meter that has a high enough test voltage to overcome the barrier potential of approx 700mV for a silicon, and about 300mV for a germanium device. What sort of application are you looking use it for? For high current/voltage applications, silicon is pretty much your only choice, as they can be made with very high PRV (peak reverse voltage), and higher power rating. For small-signal use, germanium diodes work best; they have low barrier potential and lower 'ON' resistance (sounds like this is what you want). Used to be, the glass diodes RS used to sell were a mixture of both types. You can tell the difference with a DMM that has a 'diode' test range; the DMM will put enough voltage across the device to foreward bias it (turn it 'on') and display the apparent resistance of the device. Germanuim devices will have a lower apparent resistance. Another way would be to apply a (low) voltage across the device with a resistor in series, and measure the voltage across the device. Of course, all diodes have some reverse leakage current, and all diodes exhibit this 'barrier potential' phenomena; the trick is to find one with a low enough 'on' resistance that will satisfy your requirements. I used to get diodes from RS to make crystal sets; in those days, I found the best ones by wiring it into the set to test it! Jeff On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:06:49 -0500 "Bill Sudbrink" <bill(a)chipware.com> writes: > Hi, > > Once again demonstrating my vast quantities of ignorance... > I need a diode which completely blocks current in one direction > and presents as little resistance in the other direction > as possible. I bought a fist full of little glass ones at > Radio Shack for 50 cents. On my Ohm meter, they show no > conductance in one direction and 1400KOhm the other way. > What do I need to get? RS (which is the only resource I > have available, I need them like _NOW_) has many different > kinds of diodes, ranging up to two dollars per pair. > > Thanks, > Bill Sudbrink > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

26 years, 2 months

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Diode help... HELP!

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 22, Bill Sudbrink wrote: > Once again demonstrating my vast quantities of ignorance... > I need a diode which completely blocks current in one direction > and presents as little resistance in the other direction > as possible. I bought a fist full of little glass ones at > Radio Shack for 50 cents. On my Ohm meter, they show no > conductance in one direction and 1400KOhm the other way. > What do I need to get? RS (which is the only resource I > have available, I need them like _NOW_) has many different > kinds of diodes, ranging up to two dollars per pair. Hmm...keep in mind that all semiconductor diodes exhibit a forward voltage drop...0.3v for germanium and 0.7v for silicon diodes. If your multimeter isn't using more than that forward voltage drop to measure that "conducting-mode" resistance, you won't get anywhere with that measurement method. -Dave McGuire

26 years, 2 months

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Rejuvenating VT320 monitors?

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>> issue of _Processor_ and you'll find dozens of places that sell >> replacement CRT's for terminals of just about every make. >You're lucky!. Monochrome CRTs are almost impossible to obtain in the UK >-- most places that I've tried tell me that it's not worth replacing >them. This is probably correct if the unit in question is a \pounds 50.00 >portable TV. As long as we're on this subject - are B&W TV's with screens larger than 5 inches or so still common in the UK, Europe, Russia, anywhere? It's been at least 15 years since B&W TV's with 12" or larger screens were available here in the US. You *can* still find new composite-input B&W video monitors up into the 9" or 12" size range, but these are marketed towards closed-circuit TV (i.e. security) installations and tend to be more expensive than color TV's of the same size. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

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Information still needed for Infotron IF/65 Development System II for 65XX microprocessors and CUBIT EPROM Programming board - AIM-65 or KIM ?

by aek＠spies.com

Infotron made intellegent multiplexers, this might be a test set for that. They also made erzatz DH-11's a LONG time ago.

26 years, 2 months

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The tandy TRS 80 with 4 drives (fwd)

by vcf＠siconic.com

This person has a TRS 80 that needs a new home. Unfortunately I don't know too much about it. Please contact the original sender for details. Reply-to: WADDL(a)aol.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:10:11 EST From: WADDL(a)aol.com To: vcf(a)siconic.com Subject: The tandy TRS 80 with 4 drives As far I know it is in good working order. I am in Corpus Christi, Texas Are you interested in it? Walter Dillard Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for a six in a pile of nines... VCF Europe: April 29th & 30th, Munich, Germany VCF Los Angeles: Summer 2000 (*TENTATIVE*) VCF East: Planning in Progress See http://www.vintage.org for details!

26 years, 2 months

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Simon Construction

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/21/2000 9:33:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, jpl15(a)netcom.com writes: > If you have any Sense of Adventure, you might consider using > electrical distribution substation switchgear for the logic. It > would take up a little more space (maybe two acres) and use more > power, but... think of the kewl noise it would make! > My scrapper has been buying all of the electrical scrap from BPA (Bonneville Power Administration) in Vancouver, Washington for the last 10 years. If someone wanted to use electrical distribution substation switchgear for the logic it could be possible. He is shipping a container of it this week. Any interest? Paxton

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HP9114B battery pack

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

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Sams Photofacts

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

I have noticed that the earlier Sams are available now on CD-ROM. Don't remember if they are direct from Howard Sams or through third-party. I'm lucky, as there are complete libraries of Photofacts available at both the downtown KC library and in Independence. Even had them in Tacoma, WA so check your local library for availability. Might be able to get them through interlibrary loan. Gary Hildebrand Amigaphile and boatanchor collector

26 years, 2 months

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T.D. Systems TDL-12

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:22:01 -0500 "Daniel T. Burrows" <dburrows(a)netpath.net> writes: > Good - That is the only one I have info on that is handy. Both > jumpers out (A&B) it will respond at CSR174420 vec164 The alternate add is CSR > 174400 CSR 160 with Jumper A installed. > I have had one for some time but have not taken the time to play with it. > It is SCSI but it responds at an RL add. Okay, so it emulates an RL-0x drive then. If you wanted to use an entire SCSI device as a single volume, though, you'd need a special driver for O/S you're using, right? Jeff ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

26 years, 2 months

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T.D. Systems TDL-12

by dburrows＠netpath.net

Good - That is the only one I have info on that is handy. Both jumpers out (A&B) it will respond at CSR174420 vec164 The alternate add is CSR 174400 CSR 160 with Jumper A installed. I have had one for some time but have not taken the time to play with it. It is SCSI but it responds at an RL add. Dan >The one removable PAL says TDL-13 . . . > >On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 22:25:06 -0500 "Daniel T. Burrows" ><dburrows(a)netpath.net> writes: >>Yes it is SCSI. I have a little info I will try to dig up for you. >>They >>will do MSCP and a few other emulation's. (RL also IIRC) It all >>depends on >>the PAL that is installed. Look for what is stamped on the PAL. >>Dan

26 years, 2 months

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How many Vaxes?

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Nick Oliviero <oliv555(a)arrl.net> wrote: > My modest home collection: > MicroVaxII, BA123. Trying to accumulate necessary parts for installation > of RA73s. Last summer I receieved a wad of SDI parts including at least one KDA-50, two RA70s and a front panel for the drives. I'm hoping to somehow stuff them into my BA123 for the uVAX-II. I plan to use this machine to begin to process my wad of 9-track tapes (at least the 1600bpi ones - I do not own a 6250 bpi drive) > My VAX population will soon take a drastic decrease as I just don't > have the time to devote to hobby. With change of season, time-on-hobby > will decrease further as time-on-tractor increases. I heard that. I have a 1949 Ford 8N, myself. -ethan ===== Infinet has been sold. The domain is going away in February. Please send all replies to erd(a)iname.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

26 years, 2 months

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I found an HP150 (model 45851A?)--how do I make it work?

by peter.pachla＠wintermute.org.uk

Hi Kevin, >....I picked up a lot of cool stuff, but the real prize was an >HP model 45851A (I think) 'Touchscreen II,' a.k.a HP 150C. Nice find. >....But I don't think anyone in the company still has the disk >media. I can't imagine there being any other options besides >the HP version of MS-DOS that it shipped with.... I can send you a Teledisk image of the DOS disc if you need one. Other than that I have no software for the machine. Hardware options included several different RAM boards, one with built in HP-IL interface, various floppy/hard drive units and the touch screen itself (I've NEVER seen a machine with the touch screen BTW). Do you have some form of drive unit for the machine? Without one all you have is a dumb terminal.... TTFN - Pete. -- Hardware & Software Engineer. Sound Engineer. Collector of Arcade Machines, Games Consoles & Obsolete Computers (esp DEC) peter.pachla(a)wintermute.org.uk | www.wintermute.org.uk --

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VCF 1.0e - VCF Europa in Munich, Germany!

by Jgzabol＠aol.com

For those of you who might be planning a more extended trip to Germany: There is also an International Conference on the History of Computing Heinz Nixdorf Museums-Forum, Paderborn, Germany April 5-7 http://www.hnf.de/ICHC2000/ which will focus on Mapping the History of Computing: Software Issues We surely could also provide a list of other interesting classiccmp-style places to visit, if there were any interest ... just to keep anyone busy during April. John G. Zabolitzky Munich, Germany

26 years, 2 months

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Sams Photofacts (Was: Re: Rejuvenating VT320 monitors?)

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

John Wilson <wilson(a)dbit.dbit.com> wrote: > BTW, do Sams Photofacts still exist, and if so can they be ordered on-line? > Our old VCR has been getting picky about what channels it will and won't > receive, but I'm probably too dense to repair a tuner even *with* schematics, > let alone without. But the only real electronics shop in the area can't get > Photofacts any more... I honestly don't know it they do exist anymore, haven't had a need in years. The last time I saw a current Photofact, it was nothing more than a reprint of the manufacturer's material. It was not the Photofacts of old so I just sort of forgot about them. I think I bought my last one aroung 1976. It so happens that my first electronics job was with Sams PhotoFacts. That was about 30 years ago. At that time they actually acquired one of each model and tore it down to produce the photos and schematics. My job consisted of unpacking the TV, then setting it up with a mess of sensors attached to critical components to measure various parameters. I also disassembled the TV and wrote the disassembly instructions, did the chassis overview drawing, and chassis overview photos calling out the major controls and components. After that the cabinet and CRT were stored and the chassis sent down the 'line' for schematics to be drawn and parts lists produced. That process took 6-8 weeks. The fun part was after that, the set had to be reassembled and restored to working order. During the time on the line, the chassis would be handled by dozens, dropped, kicked, spilled on, and who knows what else. It was a nightmare sometimes to get a set working again, but I learned a lot. Fortunately, it was not my job to reassemble all of them, just something we all did when lacking for something to do or in need of a change. Some of the perks were nice, like a free subscription to Photofact of the Month. The was a file room where 50 or so copies of each individual Photofact were archived. You were free to go there and pull anything you needed. If it was not there, then tell the secretary and she would order it from other archives. One time I needed a Photofact for what at the time was considered an antique radio. I told the secretary and the next day she brought the complete folder, #47 as I recall. I have long since forgot the original issue date on that one. The other neat thing was the quarterly employee book sale. Needless to say, I have my share of Sams books, the paperbacks all bought for a quarter each. It pained me in later years to have to pay full price. I remember even back then that they were cutting back there 'coverage' of things like clock radios and the less expensive TV's. I guess you can call it the dawn of the age of 'discarding'. So I have to wonder what kind of coverage they provided for VCR's. Forgive me, John (et al), for not really answering your question. I had not even though about Sams in years and your posting prompted me to share. Excuse the rambling about old times. Mike

26 years, 2 months

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HP9114B battery pack

by cem14＠cornell.edu

I know, bad form to reply to my own post, but I just discovered that my brain was fried last night :-) At 12:59 AM 02/22/2000 -0500, you wrote: >>However, it appears that 3 off 2.5Ah Cyclon cells would fit in the >>housing. Has this ever been tried, and does the HP charger PCB charge >>these correctly without damage? > >The 1.5 V difference is big enough that the charger may actually >damage them. Low duty lead-acid batteries are supposed >to be charged using constant voltage (with initial current limiting, >one amp for the ones in question). For standby use the charging >voltage for these is 6.9V; for cycle use the charging voltage >is 7.3V . Both are way too high for a 4.5V nominal pack. And >I think that 4.5V is probably too low for the hp9114. It should work -- 3 cyclon cells = 6V, the required nominal voltage. But I would still try to get the LCR062R4PU's. Carlos.

26 years, 2 months

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IBM 3363 optical drive Technical Reference Manual wanted

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

> As the subject says, I would like to get hold of a Technical Reference Manual > for the IBM 3363 WORM drive. > > Any ideas where I might find one? (And an ISA adapter card for the 3363 too.) I thought I had this manual, but alas, no luck. What I have is the Guide to Operations. A pretty lusing manual, all told, but there is some useful info to be gleaned, like the switch settings for the ISA card. (I don't have the card - sorry). The manual also comes with about half a dozen disks of drivers and software - I think it's Drivers for ISA on 5.25 in; drivers for ISA on 3.5 in; and drivers for microchannel on 3.5in - two disks each or thereabouts. Details of the utility programs can be found in the manual. I haven't read it in detail, so I don't know how good an API you get with this. If you want this, shipping to USA is between 8 and 9 dollars (haven't got an exact figure - I just shoved the manual and one Jiffy bag on the scales in the post room), so I'll send it for $10 US. If you are not as far away from the UK as that, or want me to send it without the binder (a shame, since this is original and in good condition), the price can come down. Please e-mail me privately if you want this, and we can exchange addresses, etc. Philip. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Power Technology Centre, Ratcliffe-on-Soar, Nottingham, NG11 0EE, UK Tel: +44 (0)115 936 2000 http://www.powertech.co.uk **********************************************************************

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VCF 1.0e - VCF Europa in Munich, Germany!

by dastar＠siconic.com

I'm very proud to announce the first version of the Vintage Computer Festival in Europe! VCF 1.0e is scheduled for April 29-30 in Munich, Germany. Our beloved Hans Franke is the primary organizer of the event. I will be attending the event as well so I look forward to (hopefully) meeting a lot of you European computer collectors. The initial web site for VCF 1.0e is up but is currently only implemented in German. Complain to Hans. http://www.vintage.org/europa I hope Hans will find the time in his busy schedule to translate the site to about 7 other languages, but maybe someone can help him out. I think you silly Europeans should just adopt English already but I guess that's a flame war waiting to explode so I won't say anything (ooops :) Please send all flames and offers of assistance to Hans Franke at <hans.franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>. Unfortunately I know little about the event with regards to location, admission, etc. Hans has been doing all of the organization and we haven't been coordinating very well. All that information is on the website but I can't read much German yet unfortunately. My end of the bargain is to learn German fluently enough to give a 45 minute talk at the event. So at some point I should be able to read the pages. For now I remain an Ugly American. Oh well. I hope to see you there! It will be a BLAST! Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for a six in a pile of nines... VCF Europe: April 29th & 30th, Munich, Germany VCF Los Angeles: Summer 2000 (*TENTATIVE*) VCF East: Planning in Progress See http://www.vintage.org for details!

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T.D. Systems TDL-12

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

The one removable PAL says TDL-13 . . . On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 22:25:06 -0500 "Daniel T. Burrows" <dburrows(a)netpath.net> writes: >Yes it is SCSI. I have a little info I will try to dig up for you. >They >will do MSCP and a few other emulation's. (RL also IIRC) It all >depends on >the PAL that is installed. Look for what is stamped on the PAL. >Dan >-----Original Message----- >From: jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com <jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com> >To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 2:36 PM >Subject: T.D. Systems TDL-12 > > >> >>Guys: >> >>Anybody know what this is? I'm almost certain it is a >>Q-BUS SCSI adaptor, but is it for disk, tape, or ??? >> >>Is is MSCP? Does it emulate RK-0x's, or what? ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

26 years, 2 months

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IBM 4381 Avbl in South Australia

by geoffrob＠stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au

Anyone able to tell me something about this type of system? It's about 300 miles north of me, and I'm considering submitting a tender for it. Some idea of it's value, probably as scrap (since that's who I'd probably be bidding against) would be good. FWIW, I personally feel it is historically significant in view of the job it did and worthy of preservation. The system is from the (now closed) Joint US/Australian Space Defense facility at Nurrungar, near Woomera. ('Way out in the desert of northern South Australia.) The entire place is up for sale by tender, houses, buildings, radomes, dishes, power & AC plant etc - plus the IBM Mainframe that did all the data processing. Quote: "The Data Reduction Centre used the IBM 4381 Computer System to process and record infrared data detected by satellite and transmitted by the Satellite Tracking Station (SRS). The raw Satellite data was relayed through a variety of computers and electronic equipment and finally to the DRC's IBM 4381 mainframe computers. The mainframe computers each had dual processors: a support processor and an instruction processor. The processors filtered out any spurious data by comparing the data against pre programmed event criteria. Data that were not needed were discardedwhile data that met certain criteria were formatted and sent to the SOC for further evaluation, this time by human beings." End quote. There are numerous pics of the the system at:- http://www.evansclarke.com.au/megatender/usaf_ibm_4381/index.htm If you click on one of the thumbnails it will show a large version of the pic with a next button to go through all of them. If you want to see the other stuff that's on offer take a look at :- http://www.evansclarke.com.au/megatender/index.html Cheers Geoff Roberts Computer Systems Manager Saint Mark's College Port Pirie, South Australia. Email: geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au ICQ #: 1970476

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Amiga and BSD o/s

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Gary Hildebrand <ghldbrd(a)ccp.com> wrote: > Hello, all you guys out there > > I'm wanting to try out one (or both) of Open BSD and NetBSD on my lil' ol' > Amiga -- I really need someone who has gone through the teething process of > formatting drives and instaling necessary files, etc. I haven't installed either on an Amiga myself, but I would recommend Open BSD (http://www.openbsd.org/amiga.html) for one important reason: drivers for my card, the GG2 Bus+ Zorro-to-ISA bridge, are included! Completely self- serving, I know, but there it is. For the curious Amiga owner, the GG2 Bus+ web page is at http://penguincentral.com/GG2/ -ethan ===== Infinet has been sold. The domain is going away in February. Please send all replies to erd(a)iname.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

26 years, 2 months

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Top 10: Best laptop keyboard

by allisonp＠world.std.com

=:The VT100 keyboard mechanism was used on all sorts of machines (or =: =:VT100 =:Some HP terminals =:TRS-80 Model 1 (older version keyboard) =:Zenith/Heathkit Z19/H88/H89/Z90 =:TI 99/4a (I think) Yes on the TI99/4a Also kaypro, some not all I have two different keyboards. NS* advantage Haziltine 1500 and 1400 series. and like you said a who raft of others. Allison

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T.D. Systems TDL-12

by dburrows＠netpath.net

Yes it is SCSI. I have a little info I will try to dig up for you. They will do MSCP and a few other emulation's. (RL also IIRC) It all depends on the PAL that is installed. Look for what is stamped on the PAL. Dan -----Original Message----- From: jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com <jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 2:36 PM Subject: T.D. Systems TDL-12 > >Guys: > >Anybody know what this is? I'm almost certain it is a >Q-BUS SCSI adaptor, but is it for disk, tape, or ??? > >Is is MSCP? Does it emulate RK-0x's, or what? > > > >Thanks! > > >Jeff >________________________________________________________________ >YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! >Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! >Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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How many Vaxes?

by geoffrob＠stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au

----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Kolb <daniel.kolb(a)corpus-christi.oxford.ac.uk> To: <port-vax(a)netbsd.org> Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2000 5:20 Subject: Re: How many Vaxes? > On a semi-related note, what sort of Vaxen do people on this list Ok here goes. At home. 1 Microvax II with 6mb & 85mb HDD TK50 running VMS 5.5 1 Microvax 3400 TK50 with 20Mb RAM, DSSI, SCSI, Pertec controller, no drives yet. 1 Vax 6000-430 TK70 256mb SCSI,DSSI,CI & SDI/STI & 6 x RA90's running VMS 6.2/UCX/DECNET etc. 1 HSC50 & Star Coupler (not in use - the 6k has a KDB50) 1 x TA78 (PSU faulty) 1 TU78 (Slaved from the TA78) 2 x TA79 (working - sometimes used on the 6430) 3 VS3100's 8mb RZ23's. 1 currently running cut down NetBSD. 1 Decstation 3100 with 32mb & 500mb drive (non-dec) running (sorta) NetBSD. 1 Vax 6000-260 with 64mb (not running anything yet) couple of partly dismembered 6000 cabinets for spares etc. 1 6000-320 minus ram and most of the cards (they're all in the 430) and a faulty 5v supply. (To be fixed later) 1 Microvax 2000 in bits not going. (Might be ok when I put it together) 1 Decmate in bits not going. (Floppy Drives u/s it seems) 16 RA70's in 4 x SA70 enclosures. Sa550 Cabinet(s) 1 Vax 8530 20mb ram - with CIBCI cabinet & Pro380 console. (Would be going, but I lack the console to Vax cable) At work 1 Vax 6000-440 TK70 256mb 3 x RA72 5 x RA70 6 x RA92 served from HSC70. 1 SCSI cd on a CMD controller 1 x TU81+ Running VMS6.0, Vaxcluster, Multinet 3.2 Rev B, MX Mail 5.1, IUPOP3, WASD Web/Proxy Server, Madgoat FTP. 1 VS4000-90 32Mb RAM numerous SCSI drives & Sony CDROM. 2.88 mb FDD. VMS 6.2 & UCX + Vaxcluster. (The 4000-90 is actually mine, I just use it at work) Cheers Geoff Roberts Computer Systems Manager Saint Mark's College Port Pirie, South Australia. Email: geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au ICQ #: 1970476

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Schematic capture/PCB design software

by edick＠idcomm.com

IIRC there's a free/demo package from IVEX that might do, though I don't know whether it's time limited or not. I am unfamiliar with it because I felt that it was missing about 99.99% of the library component symbols and models I expected to see. It's not missing too much from their viewpoint, but The first five or six components I tried to use in their demo software were absent, so I ditched it. I'm not even sure that IVEX isn't the vendor of the Windraft, etc packages which I seem to recall it is, but they seem to reflect the same problems. There's a PD add-on for AutoCad, which isn't free, that is claimed to work well, though I haven't tried it. What I use for the bread-and-butter stuff myself is the classic DOS-based OrCAD v3.22 which works, I find, much better than the more recent GUI-based versions. OrCAD has recently come out with a schematic capture package for which there is supposed to be a route editor as well, accessible over the web only. That might meet your short-term needs. If you like the EAGLE stuff well enough, it's not terribly expensive, and certainly costs in the range from 1..10% of what the OrCAD which does from 1..10% of Eagle will do, costs. If you plan to integratge shcematic capture and PCB routing with other packages, you should look at VIEWLOGIC despite its higher cost, because it's the package now most-used to support entry on the low-cost CPLD/FPGA verndors' software. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Peter Pachla <peter.pachla(a)wintermute.org.uk> To: Classic Computer <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 10:45 AM Subject: Schematic capture/PCB design software >Sometime last month there was a discussion here about members' preferred PCB >layout software - most of which I appear to have missed thanks to my ISP >having problems.... > >Anyway, what came of that discussion and what were the recommendations for a >good free package? > > >Personally I've been using the DOS based "Easy PCB" for about 10 years now >(does that make this on topic? <grin>) but would "prefer" to switch to a >Win95 based package since I don't have a Linux box up and running yet. I've >got "Eagle CAD v3.55r3" which is great, but the limitation on board size >makes it impossible for me to use it for the project I'm playing with at the >moment. :-( > > > TTFN - Pete. > >-- >Hardware & Software Engineer. Sound Engineer. >Collector of Arcade Machines, Games Consoles & Obsolete Computers (esp DEC) > >peter.pachla(a)wintermute.org.uk | www.wintermute.org.uk >-- > > >

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Schematic capture/PCB design software

by peter.pachla＠wintermute.org.uk

Sometime last month there was a discussion here about members' preferred PCB layout software - most of which I appear to have missed thanks to my ISP having problems.... Anyway, what came of that discussion and what were the recommendations for a good free package? Personally I've been using the DOS based "Easy PCB" for about 10 years now (does that make this on topic? <grin>) but would "prefer" to switch to a Win95 based package since I don't have a Linux box up and running yet. I've got "Eagle CAD v3.55r3" which is great, but the limitation on board size makes it impossible for me to use it for the project I'm playing with at the moment. :-( TTFN - Pete. -- Hardware & Software Engineer. Sound Engineer. Collector of Arcade Machines, Games Consoles & Obsolete Computers (esp DEC) peter.pachla(a)wintermute.org.uk | www.wintermute.org.uk --

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Top 10: Best laptop keyboard

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

> Here's a new discussion for ya': a top ten list of the best laptop > kayboards! I already know who's going to be number 1, but, just the same, > here are my picks for the list: OK, I'll be controversial. 1. Epson HX20 2. Tandy TRS-80 model 100 3.... I've never used any other laptops with decent keyboards. In fact, I've used very few pcs with decent keyboards. I have a PS/2 keyboard on my machine at work - it has followed me through at least three machines now... Philip. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Power Technology Centre, Ratcliffe-on-Soar, Nottingham, NG11 0EE, UK Tel: +44 (0)115 936 2000 http://www.powertech.co.uk **********************************************************************

26 years, 2 months

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Goodies

by broth＠heathers.stdio.com

Just picked up some interesting goodies this weekend. How about a UNIVAC 1610 card punch station. Its in great shape and I think it'll work with a good degrunging. Also got a whole boatload of DEC manuals and handbooks including the original handbook for the classic 8 including a software reference and price list. I also received a VAXstation II that had a card by CMD in it. It may be wishful thinking but it has a 50 pin header on it with three resistor packs like a SCSI. The model is CQD-220/M. Anyone heard of this one? Brian.

26 years, 2 months

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Test/Machines available

by peter.pachla＠wintermute.org.uk

This message is something of a test message since it appears my last few messages haven't made it through to the list. :-( Anyway, I've a few machines I want rid of: Apple II Europlus Apple //e Psion Organiser II, CM Available free or in exchange for any interesting DEC/HP or IBM PS/2 bits (I *NEED* case parts etc for a 9595 I'm trying to restore). I'm located in the UK (Birmingham) in case anyone doesn't already know. TTFN - Pete. -- Hardware & Software Engineer. Sound Engineer. Collector of Arcade Machines, Games Consoles & Obsolete Computers (esp DEC) peter.pachla(a)wintermute.org.uk | www.wintermute.org.uk --

26 years, 2 months

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Great finds today

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Went to the local thrift and came away with the following: 1. Grid model 2260 without power supply and pen for $1 2. Vtech child see-through laptop with mouse for $5 3. A complete early model sega unit with lots of cartridges for $1 4 A box of 2600 cartridges for $1 5. A 7800 unit with cartridges for $1 6. A large box full of Mac software ( 11 boxes) for $1 7. A Mattel unit with lots of extras for $1 Those were the highlights the many other items will be list another day. Keep computing John

26 years, 2 months

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SVR4.0 'mdevice' file entry needed...

by msg＠waste.org

Greetings, Would those of you with access to a SysV R4.0 system (eg. SysV/386 R4.0) please inspect /etc/conf/cf.d/mdevice for the entry beginning with 'klm' and report the results to me? If you find it could you also grab the 'space.c' files in /etc/conf/pack.d/klm and /etc/conf/pack.d/nfs directories (very small files). We're trying to fix nfs on an old box and would really appreciate your help. Thanks, Michael Grigoni Cybertheque Museum

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Keyboards / Simon relay computer?

by kla＠helios.augustana.edu

A quick statement and a question: (1) I seem to recall that the keyboard used on the original Kaypro luggable computer was labeled as the "IBM Selectric" keyboard. I had been a user of the IBM Selectric typewriter at the time of using my first Kaypro computer, and recall the look and feel to be identical (or at least similar enough) in the key shapes and layout. When you folks mention the VT100 keyboard, you are talking about a different animal, right? (Also a nice keyboard....) (2) Would someone please repost the URL for the Simon relay computer. Thanks. Cheers. Kevin Anderson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Kevin L. Anderson Ph.D., Geography Department, Augustana College Rock Island, Illinois 61201-2296, USA phone: (309) 794-7325 e-mail: kla(a)helios.augustana.edu -or- gganderson(a)augustana.edu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Opinions expressed here are my own and do not represent the administration of Augustana College.

26 years, 2 months

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T.D. Systems TDL-12

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Guys: Anybody know what this is? I'm almost certain it is a Q-BUS SCSI adaptor, but is it for disk, tape, or ??? Is is MSCP? Does it emulate RK-0x's, or what? Thanks! Jeff ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

26 years, 2 months

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MPE Update was "Stuff to trade"

by steverob＠hotoffice.com

> > An HD for my HP3000 that will fit in the bottom rack space. I've gotten > some great info from Joe Rigdon on models and have my eyes open; I need > something big enough so that I can do the initial install of MPE V 3P with > full subsys (it's been estimated that I need at least 100mb or so). Received my MPE tapes on Friday and installed the OS and patches over the weekend. Everything worked out just fine. It's really nice having *ALL* the subsystems again :-) Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>

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Stuff to trade/stuff I'm looking for

by af-list＠wfi-inc.com

While I'm thinking about it, I thought I'd do a quick troll for stuff I've been looking for. I'd rather trade around for stuff, but I'd be willing to pay real money (gasp) for some stuff: A keyboard for my HP2649 terminal HP2392, HP2622, or HP2645 terminal. I need one for my 3000 (using a laptop with an HP term program right now). The 2649 I have is dubious; I get a screen full of what looks like garbage to me, but then again, I don't have a keyboard and, in addition, the 2649 is interesting in that it could have a custom program on it for something other than being a straight terminal. An HD for my HP3000 that will fit in the bottom rack space. I've gotten some great info from Joe Rigdon on models and have my eyes open; I need something big enough so that I can do the initial install of MPE V 3P with full subsys (it's been estimated that I need at least 100mb or so). Qbus ethernet card (for my 11/23 compat) Qbus scsi controller card Qbus MFM controller card A scsi interface for the Atari ST (like an ICD/etc). A Hayes Smartmodem 2400 w/ps. What I currently have to trade: Sparcprinter w/LP sbus interface card/required cables Sparc 1 w/24megs ram (If you want both, I'll give you the lpviio.h header file for Ghostscript and you could use linux to make a printer server - i.e., cheap networked laser printer for Mac/Windows/Unix machines) SunOS 4.1 System Manual, volumes I - III SunOS 4.0 Network Administrator's Guide SunView Programmers Guide I'm sure there's a couple others (all 3-ring binders) Cables, cables, cables. DB25 and DB9 serial, AT keyboard extenders, other misc, lots of them. Cat5 patch bay, 24 ports. (warning: not yet classic in the list sense) 486 laptops in various states. A bunch of working Epson Action Note 650's, a working Epson Action Note 895c (color, Cyrix DX4-100). Pentium laptops, mostly pieces. Retired for cracked screens/non operational. Some of the Dell P-75 bases work fine (cracked screens). I'd gladly entertain interesting trades for any of this stuff, with one caveat: I am the world's worst shipper. It takes me a long time to do it, and I hate it with a passion. As a general rule, I really won't ship anything that weighs more than 20 pounds total. Also, I mostly got this stuff for free/trades, so I don't really want to "sell" any of it... I'll be at TRW this month, so I'd be happy to bring anything down there with me...just let me know if you want any of it! Cheers, Aaron

26 years, 2 months

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Archive Viper and TEAC data cassette drives are spoken for

by jdykstra＠nortelnetworks.com

And sorry for the HTML. If Outlook 97 has an option to send plain text, they've got it well hidden. ---- John Dykstra jdykstra(a)nortelnetworks.com Principal Software Architect voice: ESN 454-1604 Carrier Packet Solutions fax: ESN 667-8549

26 years, 2 months

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free Tektronix 7603 manual for shipping costs

by jdarren＠ala.net

I would like to find a home for a Tektronix 7603 / R7603 Oscilloscope Service Manual and will give it for the cost of shipping. The shipping will be $3.20 for USPS Priority Mail. I will send to first person to contact. Thanks.

26 years, 2 months

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free Tektronix 7A26 manual for shipping costs

by jdarren＠ala.net

I would like to find a home for a Tektronix 7A26 Dual Trace Amplifier Instruction Manual and will give it for the cost of shipping. The shipping will be $3.20 for USPS Priority Mail. I will send to first person to contact. Thanks.

26 years, 2 months

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Rejuvenating VT320 monitors?

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>I got a couple of "free" VT320 terminals with a system I picked up and they >both work but they are both pretty dim. (one is reasonably bright after a >30 - 40 minute warm up). Now in the video game market there are kits to >rejuvenate a tube but I don't know what the equivalent would be for a >VT320. Tony? Anyone? Is there anything I can do? As a very first pass, on most terminals you can crank an internal pot to increase the maximum brightness. You will almost certainly find that there's some interaction with the focus. In *my* opinion, using my current price/performance/effort/time tradeoff matrix, if tweaking the pot doesn't yield a satisfactory display, the right thing to do is get a new CRT for the terminal. Open up an issue of _Processor_ and you'll find dozens of places that sell replacement CRT's for terminals of just about every make. Why go the new CRT route? Yes, it's expensive, but if you're going to be using the terminal into the future (and it'll be just as usable fifteen years from now as it was when it was new) it's the right thing to do. -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

26 years, 2 months

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IIgs stuff update

by nerdware＠laidbak.com

Hello, boys and girls. I got four responses right off the bat, so I'm going to sort out who wants what and then I'll post what's left in a couple of days. Thanks to those who responded so far. I'm glad they're going to go to classiccmp people....I've gotten a few orphans that way, so I'm glad to be able to give something back. Paul Braun NerdWare -- The History of the PC and the Nerds who brought it to you. nerdware(a)laidbak.com www.laidbak.com/nerdware

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TEAC Data Cassette Drive - Available for cost of shipping

by jdykstra＠nortelnetworks.com

I've got an TEAC data cassette drive with SCSI interface, model MT-2ST/N50, available to the first responder for the cost of shipping. The drive works, but there's no warranty. It has had light usage and is in good condition, but I have no idea how much life is left on the heads. This is the drive only--no enclosure or power supply. I also have twelve data cassettes that fit this drive. The "buyer" of the drive has first dibs on these, but if s/he doesn't want them, I'll make them available separately. As far as I know, there's no commercial source for these any more. If you want this drive and/or cassettes, email me your address and desired method of shipping. If I don't hear anything by Wednesday, they go up on eBay. ---- John Dykstra jdykstra(a)nortelnetworks.com Principal Software Architect voice: +1 651 415-1604 Nortel Networks fax: +1 612 932-8549

26 years, 2 months

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Ham population stats

by jpl15＠netcom.com

So far: 23 respondents to my "Who's a Ham" question; not counting the several commercial licensees among us. Off Topic: I am hoping that the recent US FCC relaxing of the license requirements will breathe a little New Life into the bands in this country... the average age of the Ham population is now in the late 50s or something. There was a time when our communication system in this country, and especially emergency communication, was augmented positively by Hams... but there was a time when computers were as big as the ones in my living room... times have changed. To all who grouse about having had to learn 13WPM (Im a General Class) or 20 WPM (for Extra Class) I say this: It's only a hobby, and a great, though dying one... I welcome all the new hams to come... 5WPM will still be a good "sincerity" filter, and c'mon, people.... it's only *one* character every *two* freakin seconds!! [you do the math: 5 WPM, 5 letters/word avg... 25 char in 60 secs avg] On Topic: I want to use the PDP 11/44 to talk to my (vintage) AEA PK232 Multi-Mode terminal node controller... but even more I want to lash up an RTTY program for the PDP, to send and recieve Baudot in real time. This is in addition to the vintage 60's RTTY station I am assembling... just looking for a good Transmitter. Major components are Model 19, Collins R-388 (51-J) [serial number 235..!] and Irv Hoff TU made homebrew from 60s QST articles. And now back to your originally scheduled Classic Computer Collector's List already in progress.. Cheers John

26 years, 2 months

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11/03 WCS?

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<I have an 11/03 module (M7270) with all of its sockets filled, does that <mean it has the WCS option or is it simply FP + EIS ? Thats an 11/2 and no. The full set is likely FIS. the wcs is a quad width card with a cable to the 5th socket. Allison

26 years, 2 months

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Anyone need a MicroVAX II CPU + memory?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

I've got several spare sets of KA630 and MS630-BB (4MB) boards now. If someone wants a set here is a chance to get one. I'm offering the following: 1 KA630 CPU (MicroVAX II w/ 1MB of RAM on board) 2 MS640-BB 4MB Parity Memory boards 1 3 board Memory buss ribbon cable connector. Their $20 shipping included to anywhere in the US. Outside the US it'll be $15 + whatever postage costs. --Chuck

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11/03 WCS?

by mbg＠world.std.com

>I have an 11/03 module (M7270) with all of its sockets filled, does that >mean it has the WCS option or is it simply FP + EIS ? The WCS option was an entire separate (quad) *board*, not a chip. What you probably have is the 11/03, 11/2 chipset +EIS/FIS. Also, please note FIS != FPP/FPU/FPA. It is FADD, FSUB, FMUL, FDIV. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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new finds

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

hit the thrift stores today and found a few neat things like: IBM PS/2 3511 which is a 9595 server SCSI enclosure. apple II business graphics application still in original packaging. PS/2 model 25 with original box that neighbor gave to me for free. some macintosh books and original disks including a cassette tape thats a guided tour of macwrite and macpaint. found an atari 1200xl in box but no power supply. the person says they will check next week to see if they have it. all in all, not a bad weekend. DB Young ICQ: 29427634 view the computers of yesteryear at http://members.aol.com/suprdave/classiccmp/museum.htm --You can lead a whore to Vassar, but you can't make her think--

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11/03 WCS?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

I have an 11/03 module (M7270) with all of its sockets filled, does that mean it has the WCS option or is it simply FP + EIS ? --Chuck

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Qume QVT103 terminal

by dburrows＠netpath.net

It is a terminal. There are a few listed in the DDA. Contact me off list and I will give you the dealers that have them and their asking prices. That is if all else fails for a list member having one for real cheap. Dealer asking prices are in the $50 to $100 area. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Peter Joules <peter(a)joules0.demon.co.uk> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Saturday, February 19, 2000 6:45 PM Subject: Qume QVT103 terminal >Does anyone know what the above is? I have been offered 2 Suns and a >DECSystem 5000 by someone who is looking for one or anything else which >will connect to a Stride 460 running UCSD p-system. Obvoiusly I would >like to help him if possible. Does anyone know of any software which >will emulate the above? > >He contacted me through the Computer Rescue web page so it works ;-) >-- >Regards >Pete

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scroungers -- a new chalenge

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

Hello, all you dumpster divers . . . . I am on the lookout for: a --->> 44pin IDE <<--- cable about an inch or less long to attach a 2.5" harddrive into an Amiga 1200. I've had people try to sell me adapters to the standard 40 pin. The pitch is slightly less than .100 -- think it's about .080. Female to female connectors. Also looking for a good sorce or supply of Syquest 5 1/4" catridges in either 88 Mb or 200 Mb capacities. I have one of all of these drives -- 44/88/200 and the new prices are worse than the price of gasoline these days. I have a used 44 meg Syquest drive with two carts that I'd part with QUITE CHEAPLY. Also to remind all you Amigalphiles out there -- the Gateway Amiga show is in St. Louis again on April 1-2 at the Henry VIII Hotel on Lindbergh Boulevard near the airport. Gary Hildebrand loyal Amigaphile and boatanchor collector

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Finds at the local university salvage

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

Last week I finally took an afternoon to peruse the surplus depot at my local university. I had to make two trips because they don't take cash, only checks and money orders. As a result of leaving, I missed out on a VAXstation 3100-42 for $10, but the guy left the two disk boxes behind (total of three RZ-57 drives). They have a wad of Macs of various models in various states. I picked up a Mac IIci for $5 with an Apple video card, 8Mb RAM, 230Mb disk and Asante Ethernet; and a Mac IIcx with only a video card for another $5 (mostly for a spare PSU) I've been looking for a IIci for a while because I was using my brother's old one when it died on me. Now I can return it to him in working condition. If I really felt like it, they had a couple of Quadra 605s for $25, one with memory and disk, one without. Neither had ethernet so I left them behind. -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

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Qume QVT103 terminal

by peter＠joules0.demon.co.uk

Does anyone know what the above is? I have been offered 2 Suns and a DECSystem 5000 by someone who is looking for one or anything else which will connect to a Stride 460 running UCSD p-system. Obvoiusly I would like to help him if possible. Does anyone know of any software which will emulate the above? He contacted me through the Computer Rescue web page so it works ;-) -- Regards Pete

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ham radio?

by CordaAJ＠nswc.navy.mil

Wouff-Hong (sp?) Boy, that's an obscure reference. When I was in high-school, (back in the 70's) I picked up a couple of big boxes of QST magazines at a ham auction. Most of 'em were from the 1940's and 50's, but they were _very_ interesting reading, especially if you were into tinkering with old world-war II receivers (like the ARC-5 series...) I ran across a number of articles that mentioned the Wouff-Hong. From what I can remember, it was a wierdly-shaped piece of wood with a couple of rusty bits of metal hanging from it (probably was a fragment of an old cart hitch or something along those lines) From what I can remember, someone at ARRL headquarters found this item lying around somewhere in a storage area, and hung it on the wall just for grins. Nobody knew what it actually was, but it became kind of a joke to threaten to use it on someone as a punishment instrument if they did something against the ham ethic. I haven't heard a reference to it since high-school reading foray into the ham-past. (until now, that is :-) -al- (KD4TTQ) -acorda(a)geocities.com > -----Original Message----- > From: John Wilson [mailto:wilson@dbit.dbit.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 10:11 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: ham radio? > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 06:49:55PM -0600, jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com wrote: > > I think someone hit him with the Wouff-hong. > > Geez, it's been waaaay too long, what's that again? And I forget what > a Wollongong (sp?) is too... > > John Wilson KC1P (formerly KA1BNJ from Sep '78 -- Bad News John!) > D Bit >

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suggestions on looking for warehouse space?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/19/2000 4:12:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, jrkeys(a)concentric.net writes: > > Anyone in Minneapolis area know were I can get a warehouse over 2000 sq. feet > for real cheap ? > >From many years of looking I suggest that you check out basement space in the older industrial district. You want to make sure that it has a freight elevator that works and big enough for full size racks. You also want to make sure that it is dry and has a good floor that a pallet jack will roll around on. Basements are warmer in the winter and cooler in the summer. They are usually the cheapest space around. Sometimes a business real estate rental agent can be a help. Sometimes you can rent partial bays but they may not be secure. Good luck. Paxton

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MSCP Patent

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

FWIW, the patent on MSCP, the DEC Mass Storage Control Protocol is #4,449,182. I found it and looked it up at www.uspto.gov. It was issued in May 1984 so should expire in May 2004 (given the revieed 20 yr rule) --Chuck

26 years, 2 months

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Apple IIgs stuff for FREE!!!

by nerdware＠laidbak.com

Well, you need to pay for boxing and shipping, but other than that.... Here's what I have. I already have two full IIgs systems and my wife is getting a mite touchy about the decreasing free space in the basement.....I'd rather these go to a good, warm, loving home than put 'em on ebay. 4 cpu's All boot through the roms, at least. 4 AppleColor RGB monitors All work 1 Apple HiRes monochrome display (13") 2 5-1/4" floppy drives 2 Imagewriter II's Assume they work, haven't tested 'em. Fairly clean. I'm in the NW Indiana/Chicago area if you want to swing by and pick 'em up and save some shipping. If you want part, fine. If you want the entire pile, better. Just let me know ASAP. I need the space..... Thanks. Paul Braun NerdWare -- The History of the PC and the Nerds who brought it to you. nerdware(a)laidbak.com www.laidbak.com/nerdware

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Finds during down time

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

1. Picked up most of the manuals for Windows 1.0 at the thrift for 10 cents each. 2. about 56 more books 3. Gridcase 386 does no power up but cost 10 dollars at Goodwill. 4. IBM 7208-001 tape unit for my RS6000 box 5. Tandy 600 power supply 6. about 20 mouse pads for my collection 7. Data General 66824 terminal working for 3.95 8. 20 cartridges some coleco and atari 2600's 9. working TRS80 model 100 in nice case for 5 dollars at Goodwill. 10. lots of cables I will to test and figure out what they go to. 11. lots of other items but most are not under the 10 year rule. Anyone in Minneapolis area know were I can get a warehouse over 2000 sq feet for real cheap ?

26 years, 2 months

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IBM 3363 optical drive Technical Reference Manual wanted

by mark_k＠iname.com

Hi, As the subject says, I would like to get hold of a Technical Reference Manual for the IBM 3363 WORM drive. Any ideas where I might find one? (And an ISA adapter card for the 3363 too.) Regards, -- Mark

26 years, 2 months

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Past Bytes issues

by rmeenaks＠olf.com

Hi, I looking for the following Byte issues. I dont need the whole magazine, just scans of the following articles. TIFF files would be the best as I can run an OCR to convert it to text. Also clear scans of the figures, etc is needed as well. 1. Pountain, Dick. Microprocessor design: the transputer and its special language, Occam. BYTE, August 1984, page 361. 2. Walker, Paul. The transputer: a building block for parallel processing. BYTE, May 1985, page 219. 3. Wilson, Pete. Floating-point survival kit. BYTE, Volume 13, Number 3, March 1988, page 217. Thanks. Ram

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scroungers -- a new chalenge

by edick＠idcomm.com

Yes, I've bought a few of the "real" tools on behalf of one client or another. They're expensive, but it seems that their expense comes mainly >from making it difficult to use them with other manufacturers' connectors. My version came from Gateway Electronics, but I've seen them for sale in the same blister-pack elsewhere. I'll phone up the guys at Gateway (St.Louis, Denver, Houston, SanDiego, not all of which are open any longer and none of which are associated with Gateway Computers) since it's Saturday. IF all else fails, I suppose you could call them in Denver at (303) 458-5444. Ask for Mike, and he'll know which crimping tool you want. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Friday, February 18, 2000 9:38 PM Subject: Re: scroungers -- a new chalenge >Dick, > > Where do you buy such a wonder? I worked on some of the first 8085 >computers in the mid 70s and we bought a press that was made for putting on >ICD connectors and I remember that it cost about $450! Personally, I use a >vice and have no trouble with it. > > Joe > >At 08:49 PM 2/18/00 -0700, you wrote: >>There's a tool made specifically for attaching ICD connectors that costs >>only $15-16. That's quite a bit less than what the fixe-grips cost. >>They're a parallel-jawed arrangement made of cleverly formed black sheet >>metal with a yellow plastic seat that fits in the jaws, hinged at the end, >>like a nutcracker, and which works MUCH better, faster, and more easily than >>a vise, plier, even a parallel-jawed pair, as they're usually too small. >>That seat is almost perfect, but it has a relief for the index tab in the >>middle of the odd-numbered side of most IDC connectors, but it won't take >>the ones with two such tabs. I've never seen one of these blister-packed >>wonders cost more than $19.95, and bought mine for $15 or so. >> >>Dick >>-----Original Message----- >>From: John Wilson <wilson(a)dbit.dbit.com> >>To: classiccmp <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >>Date: Friday, February 18, 2000 7:28 PM >>Subject: Re: scroungers -- a new chalenge >> >> >>>On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 06:00:51PM -0700, Clint Wolff (VAX collector) >>wrote: >>>> IDC cables are pretty easy to crimp with a panavise, or bench vise and >>>> nylon jaws. >>> >>>Or a "duckbill" vice grip, available at welding supply shops and some auto >>>parts shops. Works nicely, and not too strong... A vice is OK but you >>>have to be really careful to listen for the clicks, the first one is the >>>connector seating, the second one is the connector shattering! >>> >>>John Wilson >>>D Bit >> >> >

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