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Found a Commodore SX-64 but with a strange problem.

by Hans.Franke＠mch20.sbs.de

> OK - So it might not be strange to those experts in Commodore hardware, so > I hope one of them reads this! > This was one of the few missing things in my CBM collection until yesterday. > The system first appeared dead, showing just a blank screen. But then it > worked fine with any of my assorted game cartridges in the cartridge slot. > To test the disk drive, I pulled out a cartridge-based spreadsheet which had > load and save commands and the disk drive worked OK. > The big surprise was when I put in the Simons Basic cartridge and this heavy > old "portable" C64 came up with its normal opening screen "SX-64 Basic" etc > and it loaded and ran a variety of programs from disk without a problem. But > without a cartridge, or with a C64 Super Expander cartridge, just a blank > screen. > Could it be a RAM chip that is faulty, with Simons Basic causing some > relocation of memory that allowed the system to work? Unfortunately, the > insides are not nearly as easy to get at compared to a standard C64. The SX is, beside some minor changes and a complete different layout just a way ordinay 64 - so no special chips - grap another 64 and exchange the chips - basicly everything may be damaged .... except the RAM - RAM errors are quite rare. All relevant chips are socketed. Servus Hasn -- VCF Europa 2.0 am 28./29. April 2001 in Muenchen http://www.vintage.org/vcfe http://www.homecomputer.de/vcfe

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Dallas module battery replacement...

by Ralph.Sobek＠irit.fr

Hi all! Just curious, but are are the prices of these Sun NVRAM timer chips these days? I am looking for a replacement for the old SG Thompson M48T02 chip. Here in France they are on the order of $45-50!! What has happened to last year's $20-28 ? Are the Dallas chips identical to the ST ones, as concerns a Sun? --Ralph -- Dr. Ralph P. Sobek Disclaimer: The above ruminations are my own. Ralph.Sobek @ irit.fr sobek @ irit.fr http://beeline.to/genealogy/ Ph:(+33)[0]561556356 FAX:(+33)[0]561556847 http://www.irit.fr/~Ralph.Sobek/ =============================================================================== Estimates are that one-third to two-thirds of animal and plant species will disappear in forseeable future! AWFUL! SPAMMERS Beware: http://www.irit.fr/~Ralph.Sobek/welcome.shtml#Mail-Warning

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OT? PowerBook 5300

by Marion.Bates＠dartmouth.edu

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found the front half of an Asante ethernet card

by red＠bears.org

I found---completely at random, in a bin of completely unrelated cruft--- the media interface half of an Asante MacCON/30ie (the ethernet card for the Mac IIsi or SE/30 at a recycler's yesterday. I picked it up for $10 because I thought I remembered somebody on the list was looking for specifically this half, but I can't remember who. It has both UTP and AUI interfaces, and all you need is the PDS half and the cable to connect the two. It's a standard IDC ribbon cable. I haven't counted the pins yet, but it looks as if it could be the same width as a ST506 data cable. If you're out there and you still want it (I should've haggled), contact me off list. ok r.

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Obsolete? (Was: Re: Speaking of cubes) (fwd)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> > >Here's an interesting e-mail I got this morning. Obviously these guys >have been monitoring the list. Why would I want to deal with this spamming twit? Allison >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:59:52 +0200 >From: Hesham Yehya <heshameg(a)starnet.com.eg> >Subject: Re: Obsolete? (Was: Re: Speaking of cubes) > >Dear Sirs ; > > It gives us the greatest pleasure to write to you , we are an Egyptian company specialized in the import of obsolete and used computer hardware products , processors , rams , motherboards , cd drives , sound cards , vga cards , and other inexpensive accessories for the egyptian and african markets .

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Found in my inbox

by korpela＠ellie.ssl.berkeley.edu

Although it's not directly classic computer related, I got a kick out of this email I received today. Some of you may enjoy it... Remind me to tell you about the fun I had a few years back with surface mount MIL-SPEC 0 Ohm resistors. (Yes that is a zero). > There is currently a worldwide shortage of very high value ohmite resistors > in the range of 100 - 10,000,000 Mohms (yes, up to 10^13 ohms - they > actually do exist!). The best lead time is ~18-20 weeks. > > If anyone has a resistor of this type, I need the 10^13 ohms value, which I > would borrow for a few tests if possible. Eric

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The DOS 10 Commandments (fwd)

by peter＠joules.org

I assume that as DOS is over 10 yrs old this is on topic ;-) -- Regards Pete ---------- Forwarded message ---------- 1) I am thy DOS, thou shall have no OS before me, unless Bill Gates gets a cut of the profits therefrom. 2) Thy DOS is a character based, single user, single tasking, standalone operating system. Thou shall not attempt to make DOS network, multitask, or display a graphical user interface, for that would be a gross hack . 3) Thy hard disk shall never have more than 1024 sectors. You don't need that much space anyway. 4) Thy application program and data shall all fit in 640K of RAM. After all, it's ten times what you had on a CP/M machine. Keep holy this 640K of RAM, and clutter it not with device drivers, memory managers, or other things that might make thy computer useful. 5) Thou shall use the one true slash character to separate thy directory path. Thou shall learn and love this character, even though it appears on no typewriter keyboard, and is unfamiliar. Standardization on where that character is located on a computer keyboard is right out . 6) Thou shall edit and shuffle the sacred lines of CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT until DOS functions adequately for the likes of you. Giving up in disgust is not allowed. 7) Know in thy heart that DOS shall always maintain backward compatibility to the holy 2.0 version, blindly ignoring opportunities to become compatible with things created in the latter half of this century. But you can still run WordStar 1.0 8) Improve thy memory, for thou shall be required to remember that JD031792.LTR is the letter that you wrote to Jane Doe three years ago regarding the tax deductible contribution that you made to her organization. The IRS Auditor shall be impressed by thy memory as he stands over you demanding proof . 9) Pick carefully the names of thy directories, for renaming them shall be mighty difficult. While you're at it, don't try to relocate branches of the directory tree, either. 10) Learn well the Vulcan Nerve Pinch (ctrl-alt-del) for it shall be thy saviour on many an occasion. Believe in thy heart that everyone reboots their OS to solve problems that shouldn't occur in the first place.

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Obsolete? (Was: Re: Speaking of cubes) (fwd)

by foo＠siconic.com

Here's an interesting e-mail I got this morning. Obviously these guys have been monitoring the list. I wonder if they take Altairs? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:59:52 +0200 From: Hesham Yehya <heshameg(a)starnet.com.eg> Subject: Re: Obsolete? (Was: Re: Speaking of cubes) Dear Sirs ; It gives us the greatest pleasure to write to you , we are an Egyptian company specialized in the import of obsolete and used computer hardware products , processors , rams , motherboards , cd drives , sound cards , vga cards , and other inexpensive accessories for the egyptian and african markets . We are seeking new suppliers for the following items : 1- used and obsolete hard disks up to 10 giga 2-used and obsolete motherboards with processors Pentium II 300 3-used and obsolete rams up to 64 mega 4-used and obsolete CD Drives 5-used Monitors 14 & 15 inches 6- Uesd Floppy disk drives we wiould be very grateful to you if you inform us if you have such stocks available , if so please provide us with the inventory and price lists , we order whole containers . waiting for your kind reply and hoping that this would be a begining for a fruitful business relationship with you , please accept my best personal wishes . yours respectfully Hesham Yehya Attallah General Manager Dragons International Egypt 23 Mohammed Eid Street From Hassanien El Dosoukey Street Hadayek El Maadi Cairo Egypt Tel : 002-010-5857875 Fax : 002-02-5231750 E-Mail : heshameg(a)starnet.com.eg --- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

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Calcomp Drawing Card

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

I just found in the original box, minus software and documentation a "Calcomp Drawing Card". It is a full length ISA card with an attached daughter card that can display 16 or 256 colors of a palette of 4 million colors at 1024 X 768. The ROM chips on the board are all labeled 1987. It says it works with IBM PC AT. Anybody know anything more? I tried a google and altavista search but only hit was for a grayscale version. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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OT? PowerBook 5300

by azog＠azog.org

I inherited a PowerBook 5300. I know nothing about it, so I'm not sure if it fits the catagory "classic". All I have is the book itself - no power adapter. I haven't tried it yet, so I'm looking to glean info on it.

25 years, 7 months

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TRS-80 pocket computer

by azog＠azog.org

I have a catatonic TRS-80 Pocket Computer. I don't know what's wrong with it. I thought it was working fine, until I replaced the batteries. Now the screen just blinks and goes off. Perhaps the wrong kind of batteries, or perhaps they're dead. Anyone interested in this?

25 years, 7 months

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P.O.S.T. issue (was: Looking for Someone with IBM PC (fwd)

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 11:19 AM 3/15/01 -0800, Fred wrote: >Sorry, slipped up on my question. should read: >Just one remaining issue: does anyone know why the P.O.S.T. takes longer >WITH 16K (14 seconds) than it does with 64K (9 seconds)?? > >Why would MORE memory take LESS time? A theory, unfounded in any technical fact: could the RAM probe be performing some kind of time-out or retry when it doesn't encounter RAM? In other words, when it finds RAM, it speeds along. When it doesn't, perhaps some other memory bus fault or characteristic of the POST code makes it take longer. Doesn't the tech ref guide's BIOS listing include the POST routine? - John

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Fwd: Sell Old PCs to the Egyptian and African markets

by jfoust＠threedee.com

From: "Hesham Yehya" <heshameg(a)starnet.com.eg> To: <jfoust(a)threedee.com> Subject: Re: "Old Crap" (was: NEC APC available) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 20:58:42 +0200 : : : : Dear Sirs ; It gives us the greatest pleasure to write to you , we are an Egyptian company specialized in the import of obsolete and used computer hardware products , processors , rams , motherboards , cd drives , sound cards , vga cards , and other inexpensive accessories for the egyptian and african markets . We are seeking new suppliers for the following items : 1- used and obsolete hard disks up to 10 giga 2-used and obsolete motherboards with processors Pentium II 300 3-used and obsolete rams up to 64 mega 4-used and obsolete CD Drives 5-used Monitors 14 & 15 inches 6- Used Floppy disk drives we would be very grateful to you if you inform us if you have such stocks available , if so please provide us with the inventory and price lists , we order whole containers . waiting for your kind reply and hoping that this would be a beginning for a fruitful business relationship with you , please accept my best personal wishes . yours respectfully Hesham Yehya Attallah General Manager Dragons International Egypt 23 Mohammed Eid Street From Hassanien El Dosoukey Street Hadayek El Maadi Cairo Egypt Tel : 002-010-5857875 Fax : 002-02-5231750 E-Mail : heshameg(a)starnet.com.eg

25 years, 7 months

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OT-VisualStudio problems

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Sam: The first place that I tried was Microsoft. That's why I asked here :-) A search there turned-up nothing useful. I will try the other link, though. Thanks. Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 11:21 AM To: 'ClassCompList' Subject: Re: OT-VisualStudio problems On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Cini, Richard wrote: > I just got a new laptop - a snazzy Compaq one, with Windowss ME. > I'm trying to reinstall MicroSloth Visual Studio 6 (no SPs). When I > run the IDE after the install, I get an application error that > prevents it from running. Two great resources for troubleshooting technical trouble: http://www.computing.net - I've found the solutions to some very obscure problems on the forums here. In this specific case: http://www.microsoft.com/support Believe it or not, MS usually does have very good trouble reports and fixes documented on their site, if you know where to look. You can use their Knowledge Base or do a search. I bet you'll find something useful in a fraction of the time it would take you to call an MS tech droid. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

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OT-VisualStudio problems

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: This is completely off-topic, but I thought that maybe someone ran into this problem before. I just got a new laptop - a snazzy Compaq one, with Windowss ME. I'm trying to reinstall MicroSloth Visual Studio 6 (no SPs). When I run the IDE after the install, I get an application error that prevents it from running. Not much to go on, but has anyone else installed VS on Windows ME? Rich

25 years, 7 months

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NCD 88k

by JRichardson＠softwright.co.uk

Hi, Does anyone happen to have the video connector pin-outs for an NCD 88k Xterminal (connector is the same size as the 15 pin joystick connector normally found on PCs, but has 3 rows of pins, not two - think it's something like 23-way) I managed to find information on the NCD website about 2 months ago, but it seems to have disappeared now and through my own stupidity I managed to misplace the data which I downloaded back then :-( (I guess I'll still need a boot image though too so hopefully the files I've misplaced will turn up...) cheers Jules

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PC/MS-DOS 1.0?

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Sam: I've heard the same thing. I can check the file dtaes tonight, but as I recall, the dates corresponded to the release date of the PC. Rich -----Original Message----- From: Vintage Computer Festival [mailto:vcf@siconic.com] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 11:07 AM To: Classic Computers Mailing List Subject: PC/MS-DOS 1.0? Is it true that there was never a release of PC/MS-DOS 1.0, and that the first production release was 1.10? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

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Rescue ASR-33 and manual in SC, USA

by jfoust＠threedee.com

From: "Lee" <leeb(a)islc.net> To: "Green Keys" <greenkeys(a)qth.net> Subject: [GreenKeys] Fw: (Green Keys) Cleaning out the garage. Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 18:08:20 -0500 : : : : : I have found in the deep dark corner of the garage, (1) AN/FGC-8 (Kleinschmidt TT-512/FG. I have with it the Army tech manual TM 11-5815-306-12 and -35. Lurking with it, is a model-33 ASR with Teletype Bulletin 273B Vol 1 Tech manual for model 32 and 33 KSR, RO and ASR. I looking for a good home for these machines. I am located in the bottom corner of South Carolina, but will travel a reasonable distance to transfer to your truck. I will be leaving this weekend for a week's trip, so there may be a delay in answering any queries. Lee -- W1WXS

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Moving data to an Apple II

by eweidenh1＠hotmail.com

I have two apple II computers, a IIgs (Rom 0- no operating system)and an Apple IIc. Both have floppies and both have the latest 8 bit apple DOS. Neither have modems or any communication software. I am trying to get software from my PC to the apples using a Mac Classic II as a bridge. I can get Shrinkit and BinCSII to work on the apples but I need .txt files to work with. Unfortunately, somewhere between the PC and the apples, the resource fork designating the file type gets garbled so BinSCII can't recognise the .txt files. Does anybody know where I can find a Macintosh image file of an Apple II disk with Fazz or another attribute changer on it? Does anyone know of another way to get files onto the Apples with the tools I have? Also, where can I find a copy of an early OS for a Rom 0 IIgs? Thanks all, Erich _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

25 years, 7 months

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Atari Portfolio

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/14/01 12:28:48 PM Central Standard Time, jhellige(a)earthlink.net writes: << Also, I've been told that the Portfolio is what was used by John Conner in 'Terminator 2' when he broke into the ATM and the Cyberdine vault...is this true? >> yup, it is. That's what I tell people when they see mine in my collection.

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Need Altos 8600 Software

by epgroot＠ucdavis.edu

Does anyone have a copy of an MP/M, CP/M, or XENIX boot disk for the Altos model 8600-12A? Don Maslin doesn't have what I need. Maybe the archivists at Trailing-edge, or Sellam's VCF archive has something. It has an 8" 20 MB HD and an 8" 512 K FD (SSDD Shugart 80?). Unfortunately it is unable to boot off the HD. I receive a 'record not found' error. I verified that the FD works by borrowing a friend's IMSAI-DOS disk and attempting to boot from it. After reseting and entering the ROM monitor, I found 'IMSAI' in the RAM. I have some 8" SSSD disks I can send to copy the software on. Any other Altos 8600 - related software, such as diagnostics and client software would be much appreciated. This computer, built in 1983 as a server, was much more powerful than the PC or the XT. It has 1 MB of ECC RAM (11 bits per byte), an 8086 CPU, memory protection, 3 - 8089s for interrupts, and several Z-80s for serial I/O. It has expansion ports for 8 serial devices, a parallel device, 2 Multibus units, a tape drive and a hard drive. Damn, this must have cost a lot at the time! I'd like to see how this performs compared to other micros I have. Thanks in advance for your help, Edwin Davis, CA

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[Fwd: Inmos & the transputer - the early years]

by rmeenaks＠olf.com

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Atari Portfolio

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

>> parallel interface. Also, I've been told that the Portfolio is what was >> used by John Conner in 'Terminator 2' when he broke into the ATM and the >> Cyberdine vault...is this true? > >Yes, but you also need the Hollywood Credit Card O' Magic peripheral that >it was interfaced to that actually allows one to crack the PIN codes. I didn't say I was actually going to try and use it for that! I just thought it was one of those interesting footnotes. The scene wouldn't have been quite as effective if he had had to lug a <insert your favorite desktop> along. It was pretty cool. Of course, it didin't provide all the blinking lights to look at that the IMSAI in 'Wargames' had <g> Jeff

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Questions on a couple PDP-11 boards (ABLE/AVIV)

by greg＠ciswired.com

I have an AVIV TFC-825 UNIBUS board, which I believe is a Pertec formatted TS11 interface. I also have an ABLE 10412-0 QBUS board, which I believe is some kind of UNIBUS->QBUS bridge. Naturally I've got absolutely no documentation on either. I've sent email to both AVIV and ABLE but haven't heard anything back. I'd like to use one or the other to help bootstrap a PDP-11/44 that I just got running last night. Plan 1 is to use the AVIV to interface to my existing DigiData 9-track drive. However, the DigiData uses 49-pin ribbon cables while the AVIV seems to want 59-pin cables. Plan 2 is to use the ABLE board to bridge the 11/44s UNIBUS to a QBUS backplane and then use a DigiData QBUS controller to connect to the tape drive. I've got all the hardware, cables, etc. to do this but I'm a little gunshy of just plowing ahead lest I end up letting the smoke out. Thanks, greg Gregory Travis Cornerstone Information Systems ATS greg(a)ciswired.com 812 330 4361 ext. 18

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Garage Sale! So Cal this Sat

by mikeford＠socal.rr.com

Saturday, March 17th the garage of wonders* opens it door to the public. I live in the Old Chapman Townhomes in Orange, CA and about once a year they let us have a garage sale, and This Saturday at 7AM til noon or so is IT. My garage is FULL of neat mac stuff, with a couple 578 all in ones just added today. If you are within driving distance, and need a monitor or any kind of mac netorking or goodie, email me or stop by. I'll will be posting more completely soon, but I wanted to let people know its coming asap.

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Manuals on eBay?

by jss＠ou.edu

Before I bid on some of these PDP-11 manuals on eBay, I thought it would be prudent to inquire about them here. These ones that have initial bids of $15, $19, or more -- is that a good price, or would I be getting ripped off? -- Jeffrey S. Sharp jss(a)ou.edu "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft advertisement "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler

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CC40

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

Well, I got the CC40 RS-232 adaptor and "solid state" cartridges in. Fun stuff, I'm going to write some interfacing stuff between the C128 and the CC40 this evening so the C128 can be its "network file server". -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION! ------------------------------------

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Carter AFB.. he he!

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> >You can drive an old car really fast (perhaps even faster than more modern >cars). Old computers are slow-assed beasts. I'm surprized at you. Many of those old slow machines were faster if byy virtue of not having four tonnes of nastiness grafted to them. Then again, a NS* horizon with static ram and a 10mhz Z80 does get out of its way. >I don't know that you'd necessarily be hot-rodding them, unless of course >you'd be boosting their abilities for better graphics, sound, nice >joysticks, bigger displays, etc. Feh, PCs are good gamers and all but if I want a good solid machine for real work it may be far from my first choice. Better is relative. ;) Allison

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T series adapter card list

by geoffrob＠stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au

I am attempting to compile a list of the Txxx cards commonly found in 6000 class machines. I have info on quite a few, but either sketchy or meaningless descriptions of some and a cryptic name or even nothing for others. I seem to recall an online database of these, but I am unable to find it in any of my bookmarks or even in my email archive. I am currently searching the Digital/Compaq sites, but not finding much of use so far. Several resellers list the cards by number and some even have descriptions, but I was hoping for something more complete. For instance, an XMI 32Mb ram card is a T2014XX where XX is a 2 letter suffix detailing (I think) the speed of the ram and therefore it's suitability for a particular model. A full explanation of what these mean would be good. Any help appreciated, acknowledgements given etc. Cheers Geoff Roberts Computer Systems Manager Saint Mark's College Port Pirie, South Australia geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au netcafe(a)tell.net.au ICQ: 1970476

25 years, 7 months

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Speaking of ProLog equipment....

by r.stek＠snet.net

In the past year I have been down four dead-ends in my search for a manual for a ProLog M822 8080 analyzer. I've been in contact with three former employees and the oldest living former ProLog technician. So.... can anyone on the list help with a copy? I think Jim Willing needs a copy too. (Sellam - have you stumbled across yours?) Bob Stek Saver of Lost Sols

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Vintage DOS PC circa 1985 Honeywell available (fwd)

by vcf＠siconic.com

Here's someone with an old Honeywell PC clone looking for a new home. Please reply to the original sender. Reply-to: earlbabt(a)mninter.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:03:19 -0600 From: Earl Thomas <earlbabt(a)mninter.net> Subject: Vintage DOS PC circa 1985 Honeywell available I have a vintage personal computer in working condition with all cables, a keyboard, display and impact printer all from the same period and bought to work together. The CPU is an IBM clone manufactured for sale through Honeywell Information Systems (naturally Honeywell would not utilize IBM since they were in direct competition with IBM for mainframe sales. If your group has an interest in this machine I would donate the entire set. For more information,I can be contacted by telephone at (952) 835-2628. My email address is earlbabt(a)mninter.net I look forward to your reply. Earl Thomas --- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

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IBM PC & DOS 1.0

by dlw＠trailingedge.com

I've been contacted by someone writing an article about the PC and DOS 1.0. He wants someone with the PC and DOS 1.0 to answer some questions and try out some tests for him. I have the PC but don't have DOS 1.0. With the recent talk of DOS 1.0 going on around here I offered to see if someone here had both and might be interested in helping him out. If so email me off list and I'll give you his contact info. Or you can send me a copy of DOS 1.0 and I'll try it. Anyone here who can help out? ----- David Williams - Computer Packrat You can learn to like the life you live or live the life you like. dlw(a)trailingedge.com http://www.trailingedge.com

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Dunno what was wrong - but it works now! (And Vax question)

by zmerch＠30below.com

Just for folks that wanna hear what went on: The mailing list stopped sending me mail - I just thought it was another list fubar, and the xmas holidays were *way**beyond**stressful* for me, so I didn't have a chance to check things out until yesterday. I have a secondary email address at 30below.com, so I subbed that mail - it still didn't help. Finally, I subbed my yahoo.com email account that I never use, so I figured at least some mail beats no mail... and guess what? The list started sending me *triples* - my regular email account, my secondary local account, and my yahoo.com account all started working again! Now is that crazy, or what? Now for my question: I'm looking to install NetBSD 1.5 on my vax at home (no, I'm not wiping VMS - I have a secondary drive) because as of right now, I have no VMS documentation. I have the documentation CD, but AFAICT, nothing but Vax/VMS can read the darned thing! :-( Can the dox CD be read under NetBSD 1.5 for Vax? (So finally, I can actually start *using* my uVax 3100/m38)... [[ a catchup for my problem: I have the 2Mbyte 8-plane gfx board & 19-inch monitor (which is sweet) but now VMS doesn't know kind of terminal it's running (IIRC, it thinks it's an LA36, but don't quote me) and most utilities (including every text editor I've tried) won't run because of the non-standard termtype... ]] Anywho, glad I'm back & hope everyone had a happy set of holidayz whilst I was incommunicado... Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

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Transputer ... ?

by mapr0003＠stud.uni-sb.de

Hi, may be an obscure question, but I wonder why the transputer died without anybody missing it ? Mario

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PC/MS-DOS 1.00?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/13/01 12:14:03 PM Central Standard Time, marvin(a)rain.org writes: << I've been curious for many years but haven't received any info; did IBM ever release a cassette with the IBM name on it? >> I actually have a diagnostic cassette I found once whilst digging through a computer junk heap at a thrift store. Have not checked to see if it works yet, though.

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Free to a good home

by bill＠cs.scranton.edu

I have a GEAC 8775 SMD Disk. It is large and heavy and it is free to anyone who can come and get it. I need the floor space in the computer room. Sadly, if I get no takers this disk will be dismantled and thrown in a dumpster piece by piece, but my boss wants the space back for more usable equipment. It is located in Scranton, PA. Any takers?? bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves bill(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>

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Dumpster find SUN Solaris Sparc Compiler C++ ver 4.0

by ip500＠home.com

A little off topic but: Found several of these SPARCompiler C++ ver 3.0 & 4.0 today in the dumpster of a defunct local technology Co. Brand new in the box w/instal manual and the CD is still shrink wrapped. Trash or treasure? Can they be installed and/or used without a license agreement? Thanks for any info, Craig

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VESA SCSI

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

>What sort of a system used EISA? It was an attempt by a number of manufacturers, including Tandy and Compaq, to extend the ISA bus out to 32bits while maintaining some form of backwards compatability and without using IBM's MCA bus. I believe it was used mostly in servers and other high-performance applications. Jeff

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SCSI connectivity

by bobcaar＠softhome.net

I have a HP parallel to SCSI box also, haven't tried it, or even looked for the drivers yet, but...it's there. I also have a parallel to IDE convertor which I use with a 2x CD-RW. The only drivers/software available for the interface/drive combo (in write mode) are for x86 *nix, and Windows 9x/NT4 and above. I have used it successfully at 2x on a Am486/40Mhz running 95b, so it is possible given the speed of the port/machine (at least a bidirectional mode supporting port is required; damn windows overhead). And all those companies officially selling parallel port writers (older microsolutions and HP drives come to mind) tell you they require minimum Pentium 133.....pah. I've seen up to 4x parallel port writers but I doubt my 486/the port would handle that speed (at least in bidirectional mode), as reading from the drive tops out at about 4x. I'd like to try the faster speed (4x), with a faster mode port, ECP maybe? and/or more ram (I'd like to max this machine out at 128MB, but 16MB 30pin SIMMs are expensive). I'd also like to try on linux (also on this machine), but, alas, I blew the parallel port while playing with the parallelport to ide driver-module, the daisychain was drawing too much power. I hate how everthing now is LSI, I don't want to get rid of the card (as it has fast VLB IDE), but LSI is impossible to repair. The chain was fine with CDRW, SyQuest cartridge drive, scanner, and printer, but adding a Xircom PEII NIC was too much. Oh well, still haven't found a replacement card after a couple of years.... T.H.x. Devon >Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:56:42 -0500 >From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> >Subject: SCSI connectivity > > This isn't quite on topic but the info might help those who >need or want to connect SCSI items to older PC's. A few weeks back I >picked up a used Philips Omniwriter 26 CDRW to replace my flakey >Philips CDD2000. With it came quite an interesting looking cable >that allowed a standard SCSI peripheral to be connected to a parallel >port and the driver disks for Win 3.1, Win95, NT and 2000. Drivers >are also available for DOS and OS/2 and the cable provides for a >printer pass-thru so that a printer can remain plugged up to it as >well. It's called the 'Shuttle Connection'. It is an OEM item and >actually produced by SCM Microsystems. They do provide drivers for >it on thier website though it looks like it's one of thier older >items that may not be available any longer. > > Has anyone used one of these before? Granted the speed is >going to be limited by going through the parallel port, but it's an >easier solution than finding and installing an ISA/EISA/MCA SCSI card >for occasional use of a SCSI CD-ROM or some such item. > > Jeff > > >- -- > Collector of Classic Microcomputers and Video Game Systems: > Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File > http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757 > ----------------------------------------- bobcaar(a)cyberdude.com is going away soon. Please use bobcaar(a)softhome.net

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classiccmp-digest V1 #538

by SPEDRAJA＠mail.ono.es

Hello. I'm searching a copy of IBM Topview (or the original program) to take or even buy. I have too one PDP-11/23 with this boards installed: * KDF11-B 5014313C M8189/DIGITAL * Q-BusMosMemory 5014500C M8067/DIGITAL * DQ614S153040 Rev F/DILOG * System Interface 11/03/ESI * 808836-05 Rev K/Datasystems Design I'd like to locate one PDP-11/23 mounting rack, some RL02 drive (and controller, I suppose), one old terminal like vt100 or similar, and the floppy stuff... but I suppose that could put it in motion with some more modern stuff like mfm disks, etc. I sincerelly like to hear some opinion or suggestion about this item, here in this mailing list or directly to my e-mail address. Thank you and Best Regards Sergio Pedraja

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Is this thing still alive? (testing...)

by zmerch＠30below.com

I haven't received any messages from this list since 2 Nov 00, and I've tried re-upping a few times, but it says that I'm already subbed. Did the list just die, or what? Lemme know via regular email, zmerch(a)30below.com Thanks, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

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OT: New Subscription addresss... :-/

by zmerch＠30below.com

More testing - new address. Sorry for the wasted bandwidth, just trying to figure this out - haven't had a classiccmp fix in 4 months... :-( "Merch" -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

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OT: testing again...

by zmerch＠30below.com

Testing again... -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

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Plus HardCard II

by red＠bears.org

I'm looking for a copy of the setup/install disk for a Plus HardCard II (80 MB if it makes a difference) or at least 'atdoshc2.sys' so I can use one of these two hardcards I've got in a system. 'atdoshc2.sys' no longer seems available from Quantum's site. Can anybody help? ok r.

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PC/MS-DOS 1.0?

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

At 10:03 AM 3/12/01 -0800, you wrote: >On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Gene Buckle wrote: >> The earliest I've seen is 1.25 for the Sumicom System 330, but the machine >> wasn't 100% IBM compatible. It was a pretty neat machine though - I wish >> I could remember what I did with it. :) > >MS-DOS 1.25 appears to be the same as PC-DOS 1.10 > >Did ANY of the OEMS release MS-DOS 1.10? Yes, I think Zenith did for the Z-100. I think I have some of those disks here. IBM definitely relased DOS 1.10. I have the docs and disk for that. Joe

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Looking for--data on ProLog SBCs

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: I came across a small 4-slot cage with three STD BUS boards. One is an 8085-based SBC (#7805), an I/O board of some sort (#7604). The other is a PIO board from another manufacturer. Anyway, does anyone have any data on these boards? The Motorola Web site (new owners of ProLog) doesn't mention these boards (probably because of their age). Thanks. Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile)

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Need external floppy drive for a Grid

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I finally got my Grid 1535 working. Nice machine but it doesn't have a build in floppy drive. So I'm looking for an external floppy drive for it. Does anyone have anything like that laying around that they will part with? Or does anyone know if it's possible to wire up a standard floppy drive to the peripheral port on Grid. I took a guick look at the pinout and it looks like it won't be too difficult. I prefer a 1.44Mb drive but I'll take anything that I can get. Joe

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Transputer ... ?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 12, Mario Premke wrote: > > Eh? Mine works just fine. ;) > > What kind of transputer is it - are there any good general links on this > topic ?? Mine is a T414-based ISA board. Take a look at http://members.nbci.com/transputer for lots of info. -Dave McGuire

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Transputer ... ?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 12, Mario Premke wrote: > may be an obscure question, but I wonder why the transputer died without > anybody missing it ? Eh? Mine works just fine. ;) -Dave McGuire

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REt: Transputer ... ?

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Our application for the transputer was switched over to DSP boards which were at the time more powerful. TI was pushing the DSP's and the ultrasound machines already used DSP's for signal processing. There was also a long delay between the earliest transputers and the more powerful ones. Our setup used 25MHz transputers. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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Carter AFB.. he he!

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

>I owned a couple of Corvairs back in the sixties, but I don't recall >either being equipped with Weber carburetors. Bein a GM product, >Rochesters seem infinitely more likely. I stand corrected...I gave up cars to get into computers, so it's been a while. I think I still have the factory shop manual for the AMC Rebel at home though, as well as enough Motor and Chiltons manuals to cover most anything between 1954 and 1973. Jeff

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New 'puter joins the collection

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 12, 10:08, Mike wrote: > From: Jim Battle <frustum(a)pacbell.net> > > Do you know if you have the original, or the Sorcerer II? > What's the difference between the two models? Externally, practically nothing. Internally, the Sorcerer II has somewhat different memory decoding, to accomodate 3 rows of 4116's instead of 2, and they're all socketed. There's a DIP switch to select type and number of banks, which was done by solder links on the original. The video timing is also different, and it's easier to get a stable picture at 50Hz on the Mk.II; one of the poles on the 4-way DIP switch controls US/UK setting. Some of the signals on the 50-way expansion interface are slightly different. There's an MEMORY OFF input so an external device can switch off the internal RAM. The RSET signal is derived slightly differently, too. The Mk.II has fixed the hardware bug in the RS232 (on the Mk.1, the gate signal to switch from cassette to RS232 was wrongly applied so the RS232 was forced to the wrong logic level when the cassette was selected). Some of the layout is a little different to accomadate the changes, the IC number has changed of course, and a few parts of the circuit are done with (parts of) different ICs. They're still the same clock speed (2.106 MHz), and (apart from the differences above) the same machine. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Fwd: Dilog D0686 ESDI controller board

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

Here's a message I figured someone on the list might be able to help with. I have a Dilog board in my MicroVAX II but don't know enough about it to answer his question. Jeff >Sender: root(a)dd.vaz.tlt.ru >Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:27:49 +0400 >From: TOSA <cav(a)b3339.dd.vaz.tlt.ru> >Reply-To: cav(a)b3339.dd.vaz.tlt.ru >X-Accept-Language: en >To: jhellige(a)earthlink.net >Subject: Dilog D0686 ESDI controller board > >WE HAVE Dilog D0686 ESDI controller board > > HOW LOAD FIRMWARE RESIDENT FORMATTER/DIAGNOSTICS UTILITY ? > > >Thanks -- Collector of Classic Microcomputers and Video Game Systems: Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757

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PC/MS-DOS 1.0?

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

Here's what I have as far as OEM and IBM DOS versions, part numbers and release dates when known: MS-DOS 1.17H for Sanyo MBC-555 MS-DOS 1.25 Release J for Corona (700055) MS-DOS 2.11 Release 1 for Corona (3/28/85) MS-DOS 2.11 Release 4 for Corona (700500) PC-DOS 1.10 (IBM, 5/7/82) PC-DOS 2.00 (IBM, 3/8/83) PC-DOS 2.10 (IBM, 10/20/83) PC-DOS 3.10 (IBM, 3/7/85) >On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Gene Buckle wrote: >> The earliest I've seen is 1.25 for the Sumicom System 330, but the machine >> wasn't 100% IBM compatible. It was a pretty neat machine though - I wish >> I could remember what I did with it. :) > >MS-DOS 1.25 appears to be the same as PC-DOS 1.10 > >Did ANY of the OEMS release MS-DOS 1.10? > >Which clones had single sided drives (and presumably preceded 1.10/1.25)? > >-- >Fred Cisin cisin(a)xenosoft.com >XenoSoft http://www.xenosoft.com >PO Box 1236 (510) 558-9366 >Berkeley, CA 94701-1236 >

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Carter AFB.. he he!

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

If I recall the models correctly, all but the Monza had just two of the Webbers, including the turbo-charged version. I believe the Monza was the model with the 4 carbs and there were problems keeping them synced but it was still a very nice engine. Sturdy, compact and lightweight. The gearbox was a bit of an oddity though. If I had the space for one, I wouldn't mind having another, as I had a '60 model. Jeff >Well, in the pre-Nader days, or shortly after his rise to prominence, I had a >Corvair, and if my experience is any indication at all, they're not a major >source of trouble. > >Dick > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jeff Hellige" <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> >To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 3:32 AM >Subject: Re: Carter AFB.. he he! > > >> > OT: From my street-racing days: the Javelin was not a bad little ride, >> >properly set up, and I drove a few of them competitively. Holleys were >> >always my first carb choice, Carters being 'okay' jugs, and then there >> >Rochesters... yuck, poo! >> >> Then you had the Corvair's with thier 2-4 single barrel >> Webbers...nice but tempermental to keep working right. >> >> Jeff >> --

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SCSI connectivity

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> >That's true, but you aren't using the full capacity of the slot. I Maybe, likely it's not a fast machine anyway. >suppose if you already have an ISA card, and don't really want to spend >anymore it's fine. I have a setup like that. I have a VLB slot with a The other side is even if you want to spend there are few NOS boards out there and fewer have much performance. >ISA 1542B installed. I haven't actually gotten the computer up yet.... >still have some IRQ/DMA conflicts, I think. Likely. Then again I set those things up in my sleep. >SCSI is backwards compatible as long as you keep Single Ended and >Differential separate. Thanks for the info... I only work with them for a lving. ;) >I would think any high end 486 class machine >would benefit from wide scsi. Remember SCSI doesn't rely on the CPU >like IDE does. No. No. I retired an old P133 server that had a Wide SCSI card in it.. With the 33mhz FSB there was little hope of using all the performance of the SCSI-W nor the really fast disk 7200rpm disk hooked to it. With VLB or EISA your likely talking a 486DX4/133 maximum and they are even slower. I know I have a 5x86/133 with VESA and the best I see on that one is maybe 30mb/sec and that the burst rate not an average. >I actually have a pair of 8-bit SCSI cards, a Seagate, and an NCR. I >have used the Seagate, unfortunately it didn't see more than 2xx of the >300megs of my HD, after I repartitioned the HD on that controller. I That and the best data rate will be 8-10mb/sec. ISA isn't fast. Win95 if you have the OEM disk has drivers for some pretty old and oddball stuff. Maybe the point I'm making is just getting them going is often all that can be asked. Trying to go for maximum smpoke is often not worth it as recent hardware is cheap and far faster. Allison

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Looking for--data on ProLog SBCs

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

Rich, I have a s***load of STD BUS boards and DOCS including 4 or 5 complete systems with 8" disks. Alas, no hard drive based systems. If there's any specific info, you're looking for, I'd be glad to look it up for you? Unfortunately, I don't have a scanner or digital camera so bear with me :-( The 7805 is a SBC that may or may not need any additional support cards. They were mostly used in industrial or dedicated controllers and in fact many are still in use today. Most of those boards (although not all) have the processor, serial I/O, RAM, ROM, and timing circuitry all on one board. Being controllers, there were a wide range of IO options available. Everything from ADC/DAC converters, 16, 32, 48, 64 bit parallel interfaces, OPTO 22 and relay drivers, temperature sensors, DISK controllers, etc... Certainly the two additional cards that you have fit that category. With all the IO options, they make great platforms for home automation projects. Most of the external cards have jumpers that can be used to configure the address range (ports) for the cards. Most cards would work with any ports as long as there wasn't an addressing conflict. With a range of 255 ports, the system was very flexible. I don't recall for sure but, I think STD standard only requires GND, +5, +12, and -12 volts. If that's the case, you should be able to wire a regular PC power supply to the backplane. A full rack which could be 20 or more cards will certainly suck some power but the few cards that you have would be well within the capacity of a small PS. If you trace the lines from the 1488 and 1489 chips to the header connector, you should be able with a little experimentation figure out how to connect a dumb terminal. If not, I'll look it up for you. As far as software, most of the controllers either had the application burned in ROM or they would boot from an external disk (often CPM). The BIOSs may be specific to a particular variant of the OS so, not all of them will work together. IE: A microsys BIOS will probably not work with a DEC version CPM. A prolog BIOS may not work with a microsys boot disk, etc... Let me know what specific info you need. See ya, Steve >From: "Cini, Richard" <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com> >Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >To: "'ClassCompList'" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Subject: Looking for--data on ProLog SBCs >Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:46:30 -0500 > >Hello, all: > > I came across a small 4-slot cage with three STD BUS boards. One is >an 8085-based SBC (#7805), an I/O board of some sort (#7604). The other is >a >PIO board from another manufacturer. > > Anyway, does anyone have any data on these boards? The Motorola Web >site (new owners of ProLog) doesn't mention these boards (probably because >of their age). > > Thanks. > >Rich _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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SCSI connectivity

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

>Well, you've had better luck that I've had with ADAPTEC PCI products. I just >recently threw out a box of 18 or so 2940AU's none having been used for more >than three months and all dead. With that kind of failure rate, one has to wonder if there's some kind of underlying problem other than the Adaptec boards. Jeff

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New 'puter joins the collection

by dlw＠trailingedge.com

I'd have to go back and check the tech manuals to be sure but I believe the main difference was the amount of memory on the main board. There were a few other minor differences in the boards but nothing really major as I recall. I have a bunch of new manual scans I just need to finish cleaning up and then I'll place them on my Exidy site. http://www.trailingedge.com/exidy/ Now if I could just find the S100 expansion box and some drives. *wishing hard* :) On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Mike wrote: > From: Jim Battle <frustum(a)pacbell.net> > > > Do you know if you have the original, or the Sorcerer II? > > > What's the difference between the two models? ----- David Williams - Computer Packrat http://www.trailingedge.com

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And someone has one... Re: Virus Alert !!!

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

> > ever heard of any Linux billionaires? > >Yes, but that was last year when RHAT had a $20B market cap. Now they're >just millionaires like you and me. > >Cheers, >Doug > Oh... The Robin hoods of the software world and friends to software engineers everywhere. Wonder how much their developers get paid... Oh that's right, they don't get paid anything. The software is built by well intending engineers and given to them for free... DOH! Makes Bill Gates look like a prince. At least he pays his engineers. Steve Robertson _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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TOPS-10 v7.03 Install Proceedure

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I just finished posting the following to, alt.sys.pdp10, and I figure some others here might be interested in the instructions on how setup the emulator. Note, at this time ts10 works best under Linux. Work is being done to get it working on other UNIX varients, but at this time Linux is your best bet. The following is a *Rough Draft*, but it should be enought to get a system setup. Zane Installation of TOPS-10 v7.03 I'm guessing this might be of use to some people, and it can serve as a starting point to a better document. I'm sure it's in need of corrections, as I've doubts as to wether or not the system is coming up right. The following procedure is mainly based on stuff Greg Satz, Parag Patel, and Timothy Stark have posted. I'd figured out a lot of this, but this looks a lot better than what I'd done :^) Based on Mark Hittinger's comments about the RIB errors which I'd noticed in my first install, I've used 1990 as the year in the following and it seems to have not had any problem. I believe others have done this giving the correct date without any problem though. STEP 1. First get the following tapes from http://pdp-10.trailing-edge.com > BB-X138B-BB KS Bootable TOPS-10 v7.03 tape > BB-X140B-SB TOPS-10 v7.03 Monitor sources > BB-X128B-SB TOPS-10 v7.03 w/sources #1 > BB-FP63A-SB TOPS-10 v7.03 w/sources #2 > BB-FP64A-SB TOPS-10 v7.03 Tools w/sources > BB-X130B-SB CUSP w/sources You can also get the sources for the ts10 emulator here. STEP 2. Apply the following patch. diff -c -r1.1 system.c *** pdp10/system.c 2001/02/27 14:17:06 1.1 --- pdp10/system.c 2001/03/11 22:01:50 *************** *** 120,126 **** } text7[p] = 0; ! sprintf(text, "%012Lo ('%s' '%s')", data, text6, text7); return text; } --- 120,126 ---- } text7[p] = 0; ! sprintf(text, "%012qo ('%s' '%s')", data, text6, text7); return text; } *************** *** 348,355 **** // int reqBoot = FE_P0_MONITOR_PREBOOT; // int reqBoot = FE_P0_DIAGNOSTIC_PREBOOT; // int reqBoot = FE_P0_BOOTCHECK2_PREBOOT; ! uint8 inBuffer[0777 * 5]; ! int36 inBlock[0777]; int36 idHom = util_PackedASCII6("HOM"); int36 dAddr36; int36 data36; --- 348,355 ---- // int reqBoot = FE_P0_MONITOR_PREBOOT; // int reqBoot = FE_P0_DIAGNOSTIC_PREBOOT; // int reqBoot = FE_P0_BOOTCHECK2_PREBOOT; ! uint8 inBuffer[01000 * 5]; ! int36 inBlock[01000]; int36 idHom = util_PackedASCII6("HOM"); int36 dAddr36; int36 data36; STEP 3. Startup the emulator. [healyzh@ts10 ts10]$ ./ks10 -f ks10.cfg Welcome to TS10 Emulator v0.7 (Alpha) Unit uba: had been created. Addr=776700 Mask=000077 IntBR=6 IntVec=254 Addr=772440 Mask=000037 IntBR=6 IntVec=224 Device RPA0: had been created. Device RPA1: had been created. Device MTA: had been created. Device MTA0: had been created. Device MTA1: had been created. Device MTB: had been created. Device MTB0: had been created. Device MTB1: had been created. Unit rha0 had been initialized. Unit rpa0 had been initialized. Unit rha1 had been initialized. Unit mta had been initialized. Unit mtb had been initialized. Unit 0 dType RP06 Unit rpa0 had been attached with 'tops10_703.dsk' file. Unit 0 dType TU45 Unit mta0 had been attached with 'tops10_703_ksbootable_bb-x138b-bb.tap' file. TS10> boot mta0: Booting MTA0... Now running... BOOTM V6(37) BTM>/tm02 KS10 03-19-86 Why reload: new Date: 11-mar-90 Time: 11:00 Startup option: destroy % WARNING: All structures will be refreshed. All disk files will be destroyed. All information on currently spinning packs will be lost. Do not proceed unless you are positive that you want to do this. Proceed? (Y or <CR>)y HOME blocks written on all units RPA0 first BAT block consistency error RPA0 second BAT block consistency error Both BAT blocks are bad. Do you want to initialize the BAT blocks on this unit? y Not normally done, are you sure? y Initializing BAT blocks Start system? (Y or <CR>)y Disk file structures: DSKB:RPA0(ONC403) To automatically log-in under [1,2] type "LOGIN" KS10 11:00:10 . LOGIN .ASSIGN MTA0: TAPE: MTA000 assigned .GET TAPE:BACKUP Job setup .SAVE BACKUP BACKUP saved .RUN BACKUP /TAPE TAPE: /SUPERSEDE ALWAYS /INTERCHANGE /FILES /RESTORE SYS:=*.* ! SYSTEM EXE "Done /RESTORE DEC:=*.* ! SMFILE EXE SMFILE HLP SMFILE TXT T10KL ULD KSBOOT EXE BOOTM RDI T10KL RAM "Done /EXIT [^E pressed] .TS10> attach mta0: cuspmar86binsrc_1of2_bb-x128b-sb.tap Unit 0 dType TU45 Unit mta0 had been attached with 'cuspmar86binsrc_1of2_bb-x128b-sb.tap' file. TS10> continue Running now... .RUN BACKUP /TAPE TAPE: /INTERCHANGE /SUPERSEDE ALWAYS /PROTECTION 055 /FILES /RESTORE DSKB: [a lot of filenames print out] $BKPEOT Reached EOT--mount new tape then type "GO" [^E Pressed] /TS10> attach mta0: cuspmar86binsrc_2of2_bb-fp63a-sb.tap Unit 0 dType TU45 Unit mta0 had been attached with 'cuspmar86binsrc_2of2_bb-fp63a-sb.tap' file. TS10> continue Running now... GO [a lot more filenames print out] "Done [^E pressed] .TS10> attach mta0: cuspmar86binsrc_1of2_bb-x128b-sb.tap Unit 0 dType TU45 Unit mta0 had been attached with 'cuspmar86binsrc_1of2_bb-x128b-sb.tap' file. TS10> continue .RUN BACKUP /TAPE TAPE: /INTERCHANGE /SUPERSEDE ALWAYS /PROTECTION 055 /FILES /@dskb:[10,7,build]cusps.rst [You'll need to change to the second tape when it wants you to. When this is done, make the disk bootable.] .RUN DEC:SMFILE DECSYSTEM 2020 DIAGNOSTICS FE-FILE PROGRAM VERSION 2.5, TOPS-10, KS10, CPU#=5000 [FOR HELP TYPE "HELP"] SMFILE>WRITE SETUP DSKB:[1,5\5\4] SMFILE>WRITE RESET SMFILE>READ DEC:T10KL.ULD SMFILE>WRITE CRAM SMFILE>WRITE BOOT DEC:KSBOOT.EXE SMFILE>WRITE DONE SMFILE>EXIT EXIT .R CREDIR Create directory: ACT: [^E pressed] TS10> quit STEP 4. Now you should be ready to startup your system from disk. [healyzh@ts10 ts10]$ ./ks10 -f ks10.cfg Welcome to TS10 Emulator v0.7 (Alpha) Unit uba: had been created. Addr=776700 Mask=000077 IntBR=6 IntVec=254 Addr=772440 Mask=000037 IntBR=6 IntVec=224 Device RPA0: had been created. Device RPA1: had been created. Device MTA: had been created. Device MTA0: had been created. Device MTA1: had been created. Device MTB: had been created. Device MTB0: had been created. Device MTB1: had been created. Unit rha0 had been initialized. Unit rpa0 had been initialized. Unit rha1 had been initialized. Unit mta had been initialized. Unit mtb had been initialized. Unit 0 dType RP06 Unit rpa0 had been attached with 'tops10_703.dsk' file. Unit 0 dType TU45 Unit mta0 had been attached with 'tops10_703_ksbootable_bb-x138b-bb.tap' file. TS10> boot rpa0: Booting RPA0... [Reading first HOM block...] [Reading FE-FILE Page 0 at C 213 T 11 S 1] [Reading Monitor Pre-boot at C 213 T 13 S 13] Now running... BOOT V3(47) BOOT> [Loading from DSKB:SYSTEM.EXE[1,4]] KS10 03-19-86 Why reload: sched Date: 11-mar-90 Time: 19:36 Startup option: go [Rebuilding the system search list from the HOMe blocks] [Rebuilding the active swapping list from the HOMe blocks] [Rebuilding the system dump list from the HOMe blocks] KS10 19:36:01 CTY system 5000 Connected to Node (0) Line # 42 .LOGIN 1,2 .R OPSER [OPRPAF Processing auto command file] ?OPRALF LOOKUP failure 0 * [CCPWFD Waiting for file daemon to start] %%TTY STOMPER - Starting *^C .R LOGOUT [LGTOUL Other users logged-in under [1,2]] Job 2 User OPSER [1,2] Logged-off CTY at 19:36:42 on 11-Mar-90 Runtime: 0:00:01, KCS:10, Connect time: 0:00:41 Disk Reads:126, Writes:0, Blocks saved:0 .LOGIN 1,2 Job 2 KS10 CTY [LGNJSP Other jobs same PPN] [LGNLAS Last access to [1,2] succeeded on 4-Mar-86:17:48:53] 19:36 11-Mar-90 Sunday . SYSTAT Status of KS10 at 19:49:53 on 11-Mar-90 Uptime 13:52, 117% Null time = 117% Idle + 0% Lost, 0% Overhead 12 Jobs in use out of 35. 12 logged in, 10 detached. Job Who Line# What Size(P) State Run Time 1 [OPR] DET41 STOMPR 7+8 SL 1 01 2 [OPR] CTY SYSTAT 21+SPY RN 1 4 [OPR] DET41 ACTDAE 180+39 SL 4 5 [OPR] DET41 DAEMON 20+SPY SL 1 6 [OPR] DET41 FILDAE 17 HB 0 7 [OPR] DET41 QUASAR 108+39 SL 2 8 [OPR] DET41 PULSAR 65+39 HB 1 9 [OPR] DET41 CATLOG 30+39 HB 1 10 [OPR] DET41 ORION 96+39 SL 2 11 [OPR] 41 4 ^C 0 17 [OPR] DET41 BATCON 38+39 SL 1 29 [OPR] DET41 LPTSPL 58+39 HB 1 n means job runs in HPQ n High Segments: Program Device Owner High(P) Users INITIA DSKB [SYS] 8 1 GLXLIB DSKB [SYS] 39 7 Swapping space used = 655/2000 = 33% Virt. Core used = 691/2000 = 35% 84P Core left Active swapping ratio = 21/775 = .02 Virt. Core saved by sharing = 234/(234+691) = 25% Average job size =644/12 = 53.6P+281/12 = 23.4P Total=925/12 = 77.0P No busy devices System File Structures: Name Free Mount DSKB 213910 2 Total Free 213910 . -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

25 years, 7 months

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Found a Commodore SX-64 but with a strange problem.

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

> This was one of the few missing things in my CBM collection until yesterday. > The system first appeared dead, showing just a blank screen. But then it > worked fine with any of my assorted game cartridges in the cartridge slot. > To test the disk drive, I pulled out a cartridge-based spreadsheet which had > load and save commands and the disk drive worked OK. > > The big surprise was when I put in the Simons Basic cartridge and this heavy > old "portable" C64 came up with its normal opening screen "SX-64 Basic" etc > and it loaded and ran a variety of programs from disk without a problem. But > without a cartridge, or with a C64 Super Expander cartridge, just a blank > screen. Differential diagnosis of a blank screen on a Commodore (I'm a med student :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ If the screen is *black* your first suspects, in order, are the PLA and then the VIC-II. Also, as always, check the fuse. I'm guessing that the blank screen you get is a *white* screen and possibly a cyan border? If cartridges work, as they do in yours, the problem is clearly one of the ROMs. Since the disk drive is operational my first guess is the BASIC ROM, which is fortunate for you because the Kernal ROM is unique to the SX :-) I don't remember the number on it, though, but the SX Kernal should be labelled 251104 with possibly a revision number (-04?). DON'T swap that one out. The BASIC ROM is probably labelled 901226 but that's in the breadbox systems. You can take that from any regular C64, and it should work fine. If both ROMs are shot, all is not lost if you have an EPROM burner -- see this wonderful archive: http://www.funet.fi/pub/cbm/firmware/computers/c64/index.html Just my $0.02! (You adjust for AUS$.) -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- Mickey Mouse wears a Spiro Agnew watch. ------------------------------------

25 years, 7 months

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Found a Commodore SX-64 but with a strange problem.

by rhblake＠bigfoot.com

Hmmm it doesn't sound normal. The SX model usually has problems with the keyboard cable for the most part. -----Original Message----- From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Phil Guerney Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2025 5:01 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Found a Commodore SX-64 but with a strange problem. OK - So it might not be strange to those experts in Commodore hardware, so I hope one of them reads this! This was one of the few missing things in my CBM collection until yesterday. The system first appeared dead, showing just a blank screen. But then it worked fine with any of my assorted game cartridges in the cartridge slot.

25 years, 7 months

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Found a Commodore SX-64 but with a strange problem.

by claudew＠videotron.ca

Hi Lucky guy a SX64,,,but it depends how much you paid...I was offered one for $500CAN not too long ago....sure I am crazy... I would check all chips on the boards and push on all of the socketed ones...specially the ROMs.... By the way, I have been told that 5000 of these SX64 were made...does that sound right or can someone confirm this? Claude ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Guerney <guerney(a)bigpond.com> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2025 6:00 AM Subject: Found a Commodore SX-64 but with a strange problem. > OK - So it might not be strange to those experts in Commodore hardware, so > I hope one of them reads this! > > This was one of the few missing things in my CBM collection until yesterday. > The system first appeared dead, showing just a blank screen. But then it > worked fine with any of my assorted game cartridges in the cartridge slot. > To test the disk drive, I pulled out a cartridge-based spreadsheet which had > load and save commands and the disk drive worked OK. > > The big surprise was when I put in the Simons Basic cartridge and this heavy > old "portable" C64 came up with its normal opening screen "SX-64 Basic" etc > and it loaded and ran a variety of programs from disk without a problem. But > without a cartridge, or with a C64 Super Expander cartridge, just a blank > screen. > > Could it be a RAM chip that is faulty, with Simons Basic causing some > relocation of memory that allowed the system to work? Unfortunately, the > insides are not nearly as easy to get at compared to a standard C64. > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > Phil > (Brisbane, Australia) > >

25 years, 7 months

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SCSI connectivity

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> > >EISA won't go into an ISA system, either. Yes, but most ISA-8 or and ISA-16 cards do fit EISA and VESA bus machines as they generally provide ISA. I know that as I have a boat load of antiques at work still running. >I don't think any wide scsi >ISA cards exist. Ebay, again, is the best source for an EISA scsi card. Most wide SCSI drives work just fine with narrow. It's not as if the machine is likely to be fast enough to really use wide SCSI performance. I generally use a ISA card from ADAPTEC as I have a 1542 and a 2906 (PCI) handy. That works in everything but the XT class boxen and MCA. Allison

25 years, 7 months

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new additions: IBM S36, kaypro and more

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

it's been quite some time since Ive picked up anything new. I've reached critical mass and have had to pass by on machines which I already own except for IBM PS/2s which I salvage for adaptor cards. anyway, just this past week, I beat out several others and responded to an email about a free kaypro 10. Its in great shape and will get the disks for it later hopefully. also got an amstrad PC20 with second floppy drive and the special mouse, two mac quadra 630 and just today got an IBM 5364 which is a S/36 PC complete with the display unit and funky cables. didnt get the keyboard though. Anyone have a keyboard for an IBM 3196? Later, I discovered I left behind the host IBM PC 5150 that was there too so i returned for that. It even has the S36 boot floppy still in the drive with dust on it. Can't do an IPL though, probably because the S36 keyboard is missing. Not much info can be found on the 5364, but will make a good addition to my IBM PC RT 6150. DB Young Team OS/2 antique computer collection, hot rod pinto, and more at: http://www.nothingtodo.org

25 years, 7 months

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SCSI connectivity

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> > >What is DRivX? Is that a Linux program or is it Windows or DOS? Somthing I fond on a bbs about 9 years ago. Runs under dos but doesnt actually use dos IO. >Well yes, I know it won't be fast, but this is for an XT class system >:-) Expect less. ;) > >Cool, I get board with a perfectly working computer with nothing for it >to do. Some of them run the same apps I've used for years...sometimes for profit. I do remember the not so boring years with them. Then I find another and start over. >I get frustrated with PCs as well. I hate it when stuff won't fit >together, correctly, for instance. Unfortunetly, PCs are about all I >have, until I pick up my PDP11/53 Monday or Tuesday :-) Ah a late model Qbus machine. The PDP-11 collection inculeds: LSI-11/03 PDP-11/23 PDP-11/23B PDP-11/73 Also a PDT-11/130 Pro350 Pro380 An ex digit (DEC employee). Allison

25 years, 7 months

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SCSI connectivity

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Eric J. Korpela <korpela(a)ellie.ssl.berkeley.edu> >The classic-cmp question I have is at what point is a machine too slow for >SCSI, and how do things degrade as a machine gets slower. My Apple IIgs Well expereince is that there is no too slow. I have SCSI on a 4mhz Z80 and it's decently fast compared to the MFM bridge controllers. > But I assume there is a point at which things >break if bytes don't move fast enough. Anyone know what that point is? I've No such point. I've run SCSI on said same z80 at 1mhz clock (testing something else). SCSI does not have a minimum speed. >been thinking about sticking an 8 bit SCSI card in my old Epson PC which, >because of brain damaged bus design can only pull 150 kB/s off of its drives. >Think it will work? Yes. Likely it will be faster. Most of the "slow" older PCs were due to the limited buffers on the then current disk controllers. My Leading Edge D running the 8088 (4.77mhz) ran much faster with the 8bit IDE adaptor (acculogic) and a WD420mb IDE. Allison

25 years, 7 months

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carter afb

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: <many echos> >> I have a 1969 AMC Javelin SST - 343 with a Carter AFB Carb - my Likely it was a bug, aka Outlook virus that echoed an Email and the attachment was likely the bugs pass along. Allison

25 years, 7 months

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SCSI connectivity

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> >>In general, I'd say that if you can find an alternative to ADAPTEC, at least >>with their PCI products, I'd use the alternative. > > I've never had any problems with the 2930U with CD-R's, >scanners and hard disks. I've not used the 2940U2B enough to make a >judgement yet. I'll likely be running both in the same machine soon >though so that I don't have to try and mix the LVD and SCSI-2 stuff >on the same bus. The 2930U would be just for legacy stuff I don't >feel like upgrading anyway, such as my scanner. Same here. the 2930 series (most are U but I have a u2B)is a good board that seems to be unbreakable. I must have at least 6 in use plus another here at home. Two of those were installed to support Plextor CDwriters exclusively on systems with IDE disks. Mixing drive interface types on SCSI busses is somthing I DO NOT do, two many performance impacts. Allison

25 years, 7 months

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Ack! Where did all the VCF4 go??

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

Did someone preserve the pictures from VCF4? Curt's excellent retrospective on AtariHistory.com doesn't work anymore :-/ http://www.atari-history.com/vcf4/vcf4.html Clicking on the pictures (except vendor2.html) just gives 404s. -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail. -- Gore Vidal ---------------

25 years, 7 months

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2 more Finds for the musuem

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Well today I hit a small jackpot in that I got a almost complete HP 200LX palmtop PC with 1MB ram, leather carrying case, 3 manuals and other papers, a set of four connectors all new and still wrapped in plastic unopened. It's missing the cable for connecting it to a desktop unit. My other find is a complete Brainiac toy computer from the 1950's. This unit is in it original box with all the parts for building your own wooden computer that really works for doing math and other small task. One of the light bulbs is broken and will need a replacement. The manual is there and seems to be complete also but is showing it's age. Now if I can just find a Geniac toy computer also ??? John Keys

25 years, 7 months

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SCSI connectivity

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> >> >SCSI is backwards compatible as long as you keep Single Ended and >> >Differential separate. >> >> Thanks for the info... I only work with them for a lving. ;) > >You work with Differential (not LVD) every day? What do you do? Work with LVD too. MIS/magician/systems engineer for small company 40+ clients 5 servers. Not to mention various standalone dedicated systems. >How did you get 30mb/sec out of a 20mb/sec capable hardware setup? Lean to the left and pray, the drive was 7200rpm baracuda running wide. Would have gotten the rated 40 but the system was the limit. Testing was under Linux and only to test hardware tuning. That system runs NT4. >Narrow is 5, 8, or 10, ultra narrow is 20, wide is 20, ultra wide is 40 >and U2W is 80, and U3W (U160) is 160. What VLB card is wide? I don't >think Adaptec has one, do they? I would like to get a VLB wide scsi >card for the computer mentioned above. Knock yourself out and good luck. >What do you use for drive benchmark testing? I use Snooper, but I never Norton, Snooper, DRivX and a few others. Generally if I needs speed IDE does it well enough. SCSI is nice as I can hang a Raid disk farm on it. >I need to rephrase that, the cards are 8-bit ISA, not 8-bit SCSI. Still isn't going to be fast. ISA poops out at 8-10mhz. >I am not trying to be rude, or make enemies, but why are you on a >classic computer list? Your rude. ;) I am an original Altair owner and have a list of classics including things like PDP-8F, PDP-11, Northstar, KIM-1, ELF, TI99/4 and a raft of CP/M systems based on S100. I can even say that most systems are operational with a bunch of the oldies still cranking real work. I've always pushed the hardware for just a bit more. PCs however tend to raise my contempt as not all are quality hardware. I have PCs too but few are "classic" to me despite their age. I consider the PS/2 50Z and my Leading Edge model D to be good examples of PC hardware. This is not to say I'm not skilled at getting all of the performance a PC can deliver. >Sure I want my old computers to run, but I want it to be a fast as I can get >it, while maintaining reliably. ;) and thats something new? Allison

25 years, 7 months

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SCSI connectivity

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> >What I want it one of the later 1542 cards that isn't plug an play, but >will handle drives over 1 gig. Both my 1542s have the earlier bios and >won't go over 1 gig :-( > ???? The 1542 in the domain server (an old P100) has a 2.7 gb drive in a single partition. You have a bios problem not an interface problem. Allison

25 years, 7 months

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Keeper needed for RSTS and other stuff

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Fellow CLASSICCMP'ers, As you may remember, my interests are shifting away from computing and back to ham radio. As a result, I'm in the process of going through my stuff and clearing out what I don't want to keep. Part of my accumulation is a library of RSTS/E releases on 9-track tape. The library covers a range of 7.2 to 9.0, and there are also numerous other reels of miscellany, all on their own floorstand rack about four feet high. I need to find a keeper, or librarian for this. It would be difficult to ship, so I would like to find someone local (WA State, near Seattle) to pick them up and give them a good home, and be ready to, say, copy a distro if someone needed it. Please contact me off-list if you're willing to be the "RSTS/E Archivist." More posts coming up for more goodies. Thanks. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K) "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).

25 years, 7 months

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Found a Commodore SX-64 but with a strange problem.

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

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25 years, 7 months

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Keeper needed for RSTS and other stuff

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Bruce Lane <kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com> > As you may remember, my interests are shifting away from computing and >back to ham radio. As a result, I'm in the process of going through my >stuff and clearing out what I don't want to keep. Hi Hi, I"m working on getting my ticket too. I've had the commercial ticket for 31 years but it's time for the HAM. Radio is my second love. Allison

25 years, 7 months

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Stuff Available (WA state)

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

(CC to classiccmp and port-vax) I have a MicroVAX II, complete, in a four-foot mini-rack with a Fujitsu 'Super Eagle' disk drive and Cipher 880 tape drive. Everything worked the last time I had it powered (about a year ago). I want it to have a good home, but I also have some time and cleanup effort invested in it, so I'd like to ask for $50.00 or best offer. LOCAL PICKUP ONLY. It's too bulky for me to ship. (Kent, WA, southeast of Seattle). Also available: -- Two complete VCB02 video subsystems for the MicroVAX II/III. We're talking boards, cables, cab kit, mice, KB's and monitors. MAKE ME AN OFFER. -- At least one, possibly two, BA23 enclosures with hardware and panels (hardware may require some digging to find). -- Spare boards! MV-II CPU's, memory, etc. I know I have some Dilog ESDI/Q-bus controllers, and there's probably some SMD boards in there as well. Prices to be determined, probably best to make me an offer depending on what you need and what I have. -- Seagate 'Saber' SMD drives, 850MB. These are nice units in their own trays, with power supply and LCD display diagnostics front panel. I have at least two left, possibly three. $25.00 each. -- PDP-11/73: I know I have at least one. Help me dig it out and we'll see! ;-) Lord only knows what else I've got in there... I have yet to go through numerous crates of stuff, but my plan is to clear out pretty much anything that I won't need to keep our server farm/Internet presence intact and healthy. This means most of my DEC stuff. Thanks in advance. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K) "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).

25 years, 7 months

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Identifying parts on a VT100 logic board

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 10, 15:18, Paul Williams wrote: > Pete Turnbull wrote: > > They're the VT1xx code ROMs. [...] > Thank you Pete, that was swift and comprehensive! Is this list on the > web anywhere, or do you just happen to keep schematics to hand? Neither; it's from a chart I typed into one of my machines years ago. To be honest, I can't remember where it came from. It may have been gleaned >from assorted sources. Anyway, you just happed to be lucky that I was sitting right beside the relevant machine and online to the time. > Both boards have 23061-E2, 23032-E2, 23033-E2 and 23034-E2, and fifth > ROM elsewhere labelled 23018-E2 (soldered, unfortunately). I'm not sure what 23018-E2 is. Might be a character generator. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

25 years, 7 months

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Looking for a PDP8e/trade

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 10, 18:42, Brian Roth wrote: > I am looking for a complete PDP8e. It doesn't have to win any beauty > pagents but I would like it functional. I have many items to trade or a > combination trade and money. I have a variety of workstations, servers, > SUN, APPLE, COMPAQ , DAT drives,etc. Well, that makes at least (!) two of us :-) I've been looking for one for years :-( -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

25 years, 7 months

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new additions: amstrad, S/36 PC and more

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

it's been quite some time since Ive picked up anything new. I've reached critical mass and have had to pass by on machines which I already own except for IBM PS/2s which I salvage for adaptor cards. anyway, just this past week, I beat out several others and responded to an email about a free kaypro 10. Its in great shape and will get the disks for it later hopefully. also got an amstrad PC20 with second floppy drive and the special mouse, two mac quadra 630 and just today got an IBM 5364 which is a S/36 PC complete with the display unit and funky cables. didnt get the keyboard though. Later, I discovered I should''ve gotten the host IBM PC 5150 that was there too since it had a special card in it. I will try to go back and rescue that. Not much info can be found on the 5364, but will make a good addition to my IBM PC RT 6150. -- DB Young Team OS/2 old computers, hot rod pinto and more at: www.nothingtodo.org

25 years, 7 months

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rk611 controller available

by William.King＠dadaboom.com

I have a mostly complete, untested rk611 controller available for sale or trade. No reasonable offer refused. As a matter of fact, if you have a 5.25 inch DEC style filler panel or the jumpers that connect a 11/34 CPU to a FPP, I'll trade you for that. The controller includes M7900, M7901, M7902, M7903 modules (one module missing) and the RK611 backplane. Oh yea, buyer pays shipping. Thanks, Bill

25 years, 7 months

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Wanted VAX 750

by azog＠azog.org

Still looking for a hopefully working VAX 750 in NJ area... perhaps stuff to trade, mostly PC stuff tho.

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Looking for a PDP8e/trade

by broth＠heathers.stdio.com

I am looking for a complete PDP8e. It doesn't have to win any beauty pagents but I would like it functional. I have many items to trade or a combination trade and money. I have a variety of workstations, servers, SUN, APPLE, COMPAQ , DAT drives,etc. Please reply off list. Brian.

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Identifying parts on a VT100 logic board

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 10, 12:41, Paul Williams wrote: > There are four socketed chips together, labelled E40, E45, E52 and E56. > Does anyone have the schematics and know what these contain? They're the VT1xx code ROMs. In a VT100, they are contain ROMs with part numbers 23031-E2, 23032-E2, 23033-E2, and (surprise, surprise) 23034-E2. In a VT100-WC, -WK, or -AC, they contain 23095-E2, 23096-E2, 23139-E2, 23140-E2; the -WC and -WK variants also have an extra character ROM, 23094-E2. A VT125 or VT105 should have the same as a plain VT100 except that the 23031-E2 is replaced with a 23061-E2. > The fourth chip, E45, is labelled differently on the two boards > > Board 1. Signetics K8340 / CN7295N / 23-033E2-00 / (c) DEC 1978 > Board 2. [logo S] 8015E / C48008 / 23033E2 > > I assume that 23033E2 is DEC's part number, but I can't find references > for either 8340 or 8015. Is this another ROM? Yes, 23 means a mask ROM, the next three digits are the ROM code number, and the E2 is the size (2K in this case; E3 is 4K, E4 is 8K, etc). 8340 and 8015 are probably the date of manufacture. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Identifying parts on a VT100 logic board

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 10, 14:16, Lawrence LeMay wrote: Yep, those rows are in my table too. Now I know where I got it :-) I've also got a table of ROMs for the AVO board. Is that from the same place? Any more? To save Paul some retyping, if he wants to put it on a web site, here's the file: VT100 Series ROMS ================= Terminal Board -------------- ROM0 ROM1 ROM2 ROM3 Chargen VT100 031 032 033 034 - or 061 - - - - VT100-WC,-WK 095 096 139 140 094 VT100,VT1xx-AC 095 096 139 140 - VT132 095 096 097 098 - or 180 181 182 183 - VT125, VT105 061 032 033 034 - Advanced Video Option Board --------------------------- A B C D VT100 - - - - VT100-WA,-WB 069 - - - VT100-WC,-WK 152 - - - VT1xx-AC 284 185 - - or 186 187 - - VT132 099 100 - - or 236 237 238 239 or 224 225 226 227 VT125,VT105 - - - - -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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Identifying parts on a VT100 logic board

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 10, 14:16, Lawrence LeMay wrote: > And the VT132 has either 23095E2, 23096E2, 29097E2, 29098E2, OR > 23180E2, 23181E2, 23183E2, 23183E2 > > Now you have all the information from Table 5-7, from page 5-68 of > the VT100 Series Video Terminal Technical Manual ;) Yep, those rows are in my table too. Now I know where I got it :-) I've also got a table of ROMs for the AVO board. Is that from the same place? Any more? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

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HP9877 External Tape Memory

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

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SCSI connectivity

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> Has anyone used one of these before? Granted the speed is >going to be limited by going through the parallel port, but it's an >easier solution than finding and installing an ISA/EISA/MCA SCSI card >for occasional use of a SCSI CD-ROM or some such item. > Jeff It will likely not be fast enough for a CDwriter. The only SCSI interface thats hard to find is the MCA as ISA/EISA is the same board and generally available cheap (under 60$) if you dont need a bootable model. Allison

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Now we are into cars and planes

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Mark Gregory <gregorym(a)cadvision.com> >I seem to recall Stephen Coonts mentioning the A-6's nav system computers in >"Flight of the Intruder". IIRC, there's a passage where the navigator resets >the computer, and its mentioned that it uses rotating drum memory. That Your memory is correct. Also trying to "reset" it harder to unjam the drum. >would make sense for early versions of the A-6, since they were designed in >the late 1950's. Because of the A-6's extraordinarily long service life, it >wouldn't surprise me if it hadn't been fitted with every generation of >computer technology from drums to microchips during its many avionics >overhauls. At least 3 possibly 4 generations with the "Wild Weasels" EA-6s being in the more recent group with ARM, ECM and high altitude radar tracking platform. Early aircraft computers (pre 1980 as they generally had a 2-10 year lead over commercial) would be an area of interest here. Allison >Cheers, >Mark. >

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'Metric' Time (was: New Here)

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:56:44 -0800 (PST) Ethan Dicks <ethan_dicks(a)yahoo.com> writes: > --- Tony Eros <tony.eros(a)machm.org> wrote: > > Yeah, let's get rid of all those stupid non-metric > > measurements. Especially those pesky units of time. I mean, what > idiot > > came up with "seconds", "minutes" and "hours", anyway? The > "hours" even > > repeat twice every "day" -- how stupid is that! > > Hopefully this is meant humorously. The second _is_ a metric unit > of time, even though minutes/hours/etc are not reckoned in decimal > intervals. Actually, this idea of 'metric' time is nothing new. There exists watches from the late 18th and early 19th centuries, whose dials read *ten* hours, divided up into 100 minutes of 100 seconds each. Most of these came from France, as a government decree made them necessary, as per this quote from: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rkeulen/watch/metric.html "During the Revolution, the French tried to reenforce the 12 months/ 360 days - year, using a decimal timescale, adding 5 days of festivities at the end of the year. A day consisted of 10 hours of 100 minutes. Minutes were devided in 100 seconds. 10 days made a "week", called a "dekade". There were 30 days in a month. The republican calendar was not a succes and lasted only from 1793 till 1805." It appears that 'metric' timekeepers (and timekeeping) were unpopular even in their own day. (Aren't you glad?) OB Classic (to keep this even remotely n topic): The Jacquard Loom was developed at the end of this period, the worlds first programable piece of manufacturing equipment. (Perhaps those 9-day work-dekades were beginning to piss him off . . . .). ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Now we are into cars and planes

by gregorym＠cadvision.com

-----Original Message----- From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Friday, March 09, 2001 8:12 PM Subject: Re: Now we are into cars and planes >At 07:09 PM 3/9/01 -0500, Alison wrote: >>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> >>>> >>>>The A6 intruders during the Veitnam era were serial based on >>>>a fixed disk. It was part of the nav and targeting system and >>>>not fly by wire. >>>> >>>>Allison >>> >>> I recently had a memory unit for an EA-6. It used core memory. It >>was >>>SN 001 and the ICs dated from 1966 if I remember right. Of course, there >>>was probably more than memory in the EA-6. I sold the unit but I can dig >>>out the description and pictures if anyone's interested. >> >> >>EA-6 is later and used updated hardware. > > It's hard to think of core memory as "updated" hardware. :-) I hate to >imagine what an *earlier* fixed disk looked like! > > Joe > I seem to recall Stephen Coonts mentioning the A-6's nav system computers in "Flight of the Intruder". IIRC, there's a passage where the navigator resets the computer, and its mentioned that it uses rotating drum memory. That would make sense for early versions of the A-6, since they were designed in the late 1950's. Because of the A-6's extraordinarily long service life, it wouldn't surprise me if it hadn't been fitted with every generation of computer technology from drums to microchips during its many avionics overhauls. Cheers, Mark.

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Need docs on Dataproducts Typhoon 20 printer

by rhblake＠bigfoot.com

While the printer isn't 10 yrs old it is semi-obsolete by industry standards for commercial machines. I have obtained a Dataproducts Typhoon 20 in great condition and need documentation for it and Dataproducts has none on their site. They do have software but the Win98SE drivers are actually better. The printer is essentially the same as a Xerox 4520/4520mp or a Compaq PageMarq 20 with differences being mostly in the electronics (logic board). Otherwise all three printers are same-o, same-o. If anyone has a manual they don't need and want to sell/trade for or know of an electronic copy somewhere I could download it would be appreciated.

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Identifying parts on a VT100 logic board

by flo＠rdel.co.uk

I've just received some VT100 boards and I have several questions. I have a VT125 case containing monitor and PSU, but with an empty card cage. Can I just plug in a board and fire it up? (Assuming that the PSU is OK, since I wouldn't know how to load it in order to test it.) There are four socketed chips together, labelled E40, E45, E52 and E56. Does anyone have the schematics and know what these contain? Three of these (E40, E52 and E56) contain AM9218 2Kx8 ROMs, but I can't find a pinout of this. Is there a pin-compatible EPROM (2716?) that I could set my PROM programmer to, in order to upload these? The fourth chip, E45, is labelled differently on the two boards Board 1. Signetics K8340 / CN7295N / 23-033E2-00 / (c) DEC 1978 Board 2. [logo S] 8015E / C48008 / 23033E2 I assume that 23033E2 is DEC's part number, but I can't find references for either 8340 or 8015. Is this another ROM? Paul

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RFC: ROM dump archive

by optimus＠canit.se

Since I've got myself a pretty little EPROM burner, and seem to have a lot of ROMs and ROM sockets around, I thought that it should be worthwhile to create a central repository for all those ROMs which are so difficult to get nowadays. Is this a good idea, or has somebody already done it? I don't care much about copyrights, though I wouldn't want to go against the wishes of the actual owners of the software contained. Any thoughts? -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6. VIRGO (Aug 23 - Sept 22) You are the logical type and hate disorder. This nitpicking is sickening to your friends. You are cold and unemotional and sometimes fall asleep while making love. Virgos make good bus drivers.

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by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> >> >>The A6 intruders during the Veitnam era were serial based on >>a fixed disk. It was part of the nav and targeting system and >>not fly by wire. >> >>Allison > > I recently had a memory unit for an EA-6. It used core memory. It was >SN 001 and the ICs dated from 1966 if I remember right. Of course, there >was probably more than memory in the EA-6. I sold the unit but I can dig >out the description and pictures if anyone's interested. EA-6 is later and used updated hardware. > I've got a Lantirn targeting computer right now but I haven't opened it >up yet to see what's inside. I've also got a largeish aircraft navigation >computer but I don't know what it came out of and I haven't opened it up >yet either. Interesting, some were generally known machines majorly repackaged or standard hardware special boxes. Allison

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by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> >>EA-6 is later and used updated hardware. > > It's hard to think of core memory as "updated" hardware. :-) I hate to >imagine what an *earlier* fixed disk looked like! > It's my understanding that the first version was of the same general design as Minuteman-1 missle computer and similar transistor machines of the early 60s. Even the Accumulator was a "track" on the multi headed disk. Allison

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Old complete terminal in a keyboard found...Synertek System Corp KTM-3..odd?

by LFessen106＠aol.com

<< Is it fully populated or are there some empty places. It came in two versions. 40 and 80 column. The 40 was missing a number of chips. If it is a real 80 column, I'm looking for one. I already have two 40 column ones. I also have schematics for these on blue print paper. I could make copies for anyone that needed them. Dwight PS It is composite video. You just need the screen to make a full keyboard/monitor. >> That is just too cool! I have to have one.... What kind of terminals are they, and does anyone have a spare they would like to get rid of? -Linc.

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Old complete terminal in a keyboard found...Synertek System Corp KTM-3..odd?

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated Fri, 9 Mar 2001 8:03:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, Claude <claudew(a)videotron.ca> writes: << Hi Well for me too things have been pretty slow my collection is growing and it is now tougher and tougher to find new stuff... Oh yes, I am still hunting for these things : Next box Claude -- The Canuck Computer Collector http://computer_collector.tripod.com >> Claude, I have a friend that has *PILES* of NeXT boxen, their monitors and printers as well. He wishes to sell them very reasonably. The only caveat is he has no cables for them... Anyhow you (or anyone else looking for one) can contact Dave McGuire by email at mcguire(a)neurotica.com Please do me a favor and tell him that Linc sent ya. BTW, for those of you who like to trade equipment, he likes older DEC equipment. -Linc. P.S. If any of you have any NeXT cables, please let me know - I am looking for a mono cable (DB15?) and can't find any anywhere!

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Old complete terminal in a keyboard found...Synertek System Corp KTM-3..odd?

by claudew＠videotron.ca

Hi Well for me too things have been pretty slow my collection is growing and it is now tougher and tougher to find new stuff... I found an older terminal in a keyboard from a company called: KTM-3/80 from Synertek Systems Corporation Production date : 3/24/81 Looks like a self-contained terminal in a keyboard with a composite video out (or rf?). Very odd looking for me and I dont recall seeing a lot of these things way back. I have not tested it yet but if anybody is interested, Ill take a picture and post the link here. The thing has a flat cable with a db25 sticking out from it. Its just slightly thicker than an "ordinary" keyboard... On/Off switch, P.S. jack, RCA jack and someone (thanks!) stuck a piece of paper that gives the DIP SW settings for the baud rate etc under the keyboard... Ill check the P.S. requirements and test the thing eventually. If anybody collects terminals, I might be tempted to trade or giveaway this thing...After all original collecting was supposed to be Apple computers only...now includes all micros 197x-198x...I dont wanna start collecting terminals... Oh yes, I am still hunting for these things : Next box, LC575 or Color Classic board (my color classic is missing one), anything micros 197x-198x...Always interested in trades (I dont sell stuff) see my site... Claude -- The Canuck Computer Collector http://computer_collector.tripod.com

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