- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Surviving customs My experience when shipping through customs you must make sure that you don't say it's "worthless", they think you are lying. I have tried saying "used medical equipment" but they translated that to "medical waste". I ended up with "sterile out of date medical equipment that is composed of stainless steel and plastic". Actually supplying the least amount of information is probably smartest. Try to avoid mention of the "radioactive" or in our case "non-radioactive" word. I suspect that any mention of any form of the "drug" word would also be a stupid. Mentioning that it will be used for educational purposes may have helped. They asked for an itemized list with values of each item. I had included several thousand catheters, needles and injectors and estimated the value of each item as $1 and ended up with the question then "Why aren't you insuring this shipment?" My frustration level was high but the third time for the shipment it made it through. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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Latest Acquisition: Imlac PDS-1D

by vcf＠siconic.com

Here is my latest major acquisition as of the Sunday before last: http://www.siconic.com/computers/Imlac This is an Imlac PDS-1D, a later model of the Imlac PDS-1 circa 1972. It's a 16-bit graphical workstation (pre-Alto!) I'm not sure how much memory this has but it contains two coreplanes, so I'm figuring either 8K or 16K. Unfortunately, it's been stored outside for about 7 years and has suffered some minor corrosion on the PCB solder traces and some light rusting on the ICs. I spent a few days cleaning it up and it looks like it's going to make it. This was a relatively easy retrieval. I started out from the San Francisco bay area about 6am Saturday morning, making it to Long Beach (southern California, LA area) by about 2:30pm, and got back home by 1am Sunday (taking my time along the way). The actual distance was about 800 miles. I was able to fit the main unit in my trunk and the display in my back seat. It normally would have come in a desk configuration, but since it was stored outside, the formica and pressboard table top was warped and unsalvageable, so I left it behind. I did get the legs, so I'll be able to easily reconstruct the tabletop. The cabinet of the computer was rusted around the outside. Not horribly but it will need to be refinished. The inside of the card cage was spared >from any dirt and debris since it was closed pretty tightly. Some corrosion on the logic modules from moisture was still evident. On the other side of the rack, there were leaves stuffed up inside the core memory board section. I imagine some varmint made his nest there for a while. I managed to clean up the core memory boards and the power supply section so far. The core itself was fine, having been protected by a PCB board cover. The leads on the ICs are a bit rusted, but I imagine they will still be OK with some clean up. The solder traces showed some corrosion (oxidation?) from moisture but seem to be OK after having traced out a few with a meter. The CRT is obviously going to need replacing. It looks like I may be able to just remove the front glass panel and then chip off the intermediate glass (plastic?) layer that is all cracked to reveal a clean tube on the inside, but I don't know if this is just an optical illusion (and I don't know if this would be safe :) The tube has a Fairchild sticker on it. Apparently Fairchild made CRTs in the late 60s, early 70s. I wonder if I can just find a replacement? The nice thing about this one is that it came with the programmer's console. And if you'll look at the picture showing the front card cage with the logic modules, the long board in the lower right is a "Long Vector Option", hand-wired by the guy I got it from. It's basically a co-processor board for drawing the vectors on the display. It allowed the system to handle more vectors than the basic configuration. Apparently, if you had too much happening on the display the system would bog down considerably or crash. For comparison to the PDS-1, look here: http://www.blinkenlights.com/classiccmp/imlac/ (This happens to be Doug Salot's excellent web page on the PDS-1, which I now have in my collection...thanks, Doug! :) The display for the PDS-1D is very different from the PDS-1. It's much larger and has a detached keyboard. The computer itself is also very different. The card rack uses different connectors, and the memory is on the other side of the rack instead of plugged into the card cage along with the rest of the logic modules, as with the PDS-1. >From talking to the previous owner, I'd hoped I would be able to just bring it home and fire it up after some TLC with a Variac, but that ain't gonna happen. He never told me he'd stored it outside. Duh. But I think with a bit of work it can be made to function in time for VCF 5.0, in which I hope to include it in an exhibit of early networked video games. One cool aspect of this machine is that it has a diode ROM board that instructs the machine to boot off the serial port. The previous owner wrote some code for his Cromemco that would upload operating software into the Imlac. He also wrote an assembler on the Cromemco so that he could assemble programs and then upload them to the Imlac. Pretty cool. This will be my main restoration project for the time being. My first questions are: 1) What effect does moisture have on solder traces after such long exposure to the elements? Do I need to be worried about cold solder joints and things like that? The last time this thing was fired up was 6-7 years ago, according to the previous owner. 2) What is the chance that the power supply caps and transformers are bad, again, being that it was exposed to the elements for so long? How can I test the caps? I have schematics, so I imagine I could test the transformers knowing the voltages. 3) How can I easily remove the rust from the leads of the ICs? Thanks! Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

25 years, 4 months

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Technico (Re: TI Minicomputer?)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: James B. DiGriz <jbdigriz(a)dragonsweb.org> > >Wish now I had spent a lot more on actual hardware, though. I envy >your collection. I had an advantage, working for NEC micromputers from 79-84, as a product engineer I was able read up on and sometimes required to use/experiment with many CPUs so I could compare them. Allison

25 years, 4 months

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SMS 1000 up for grabs in UK

by kevan＠heydon.org

I have an SMS 1000 (A PDP 11/73) that I no longer want. It is populated with a M8192-YB (11/73 cpu) card and a MSV11-R memory card made by General Robotics Corp. There is an internal harddisk and both a 5 1/4" and 8" floppy drives. It runs RT-11 and has a set of RT-11 manuals including: 1A, 2, 2A, 2B, 2C, 3A, 3B, PDP11 FORTRAN 77 & RT-11 Mini Ref. Manual. It really has to go so I will split up if someone wants only parts from it. The manuals will end up in the paper recycling bins at work if nobody wants them. -- Kevan Collector of old computers: http://www.heydon.org/kevan/collection/

25 years, 4 months

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My Collection

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 13, Jerome Fine wrote: > Does anyone on the list run RT-11 still other than Megan Gentry? > Do you tinker with the operating system code at all? Does anyone > care about the RT-11 Operating System? I care about it; I like it quite a bit. I have a Micro 11/73 running v5.4, and a Kevex X-ray analyzer (an accessory to the electron microscope) that has a pdp11/73 in it that runs RT-11. -Dave McGuire

25 years, 4 months

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Commodore Colt (was Re: My Collection)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> > > As far as I know, the 8bit IDE drives maxed out at 40meg, Mostly due to the 8bit market for them shrinking. My solution is a acculogic 8bit to standard ISA adaptor, works great with a Conner 420mb IDE. Allison

25 years, 4 months

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Technico (Re: TI Minicomputer?)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Eric Chomko <chomko(a)greenbelt.com> > >Whoa! The class I took in microcomputers (two actually) was once a week at 7:00pm. I was a regular full-time day student at that time. However, the class was >populated with many over 30 types and in one class the Prof. was about 60 and the other class the Prof was 28! That would be about right. About the time I'd bought the 9900 I'd be taking a course on data structures in pascal. Allison

25 years, 4 months

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IBM 9370 Mainframe Specs?

by msuttner＠columbus.rr.com

Hello, I worked in Endicott for IBM on the design of what was known internally as the Series-X machine. This later became the S/9370 and AS/400. If you notice in the first announcements that the machines look alike? Both use common building block parts developed for Series-X which was canceled. Both used the same RISC processor. The 9379 has an emulation assist card to help with the S/370 instructions. At any rate I was looking for some information on the processor and IBM had none in their archives. Anyone know where there is information online? I have some marketing materials from when it was released. Mark

25 years, 4 months

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My Collection

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 13, LFessen106(a)aol.com wrote: > So far I've found endless fascination in chips and power transistors. > But, the most unbelievably fascinating thing that I've seen in that > scope was something I thought would be boring...a blown tungsten lamp > filament! I just did some quick scans of some of the > electromicrographs I've done lately. They can be seen at > http://www.neurotica.com/sem/images if you're interested. The blown > tungsten lamp filament pics are filament-1.jpg and filament-2.jpg. > >> > > Dave, > Just out of curiosity, have you found any of that microart burned on I.C.'s yet? Lots of it. Most of it is fairly well-documented though, so I haven't bothered photographing any of it. I've enjoyed hunting around chips to find manufacturers' logos, though. That's always fun. Tooling around with the X and Y stage controls, until a big "W" Westinghouse logo pops up...cool! I'm really hoping to find a dead J11 chipset to decapitate. I have several J11-based boards here but I can't stand the idea of sacrificing one in that manner. If anyone here has a spare J11 chipset or a known-dead board containing one, I'd love to talk deal for it. -Dave McGuire

25 years, 4 months

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My Collection

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

UM, U of M, UMD, it's all alphabet soup to me. I didn't attend the school, so I don't know what the official abbreviation is. :) -Dave McGuire On April 13, Chad Fernandez wrote: > U of M is Michigan :-) I thought Maryland was just UM? > > Chad Fernandez > Michigan, USA > > Dave McGuire wrote: > > > > U of M as in Maryland? I'm in Laurel. :-)

25 years, 4 months

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My Collection

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated Fri, 13 Apr 2001 3:45:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> writes: << U of M as in Maryland? I'm in Laurel. :-) So far I've found endless fascination in chips and power transistors. But, the most unbelievably fascinating thing that I've seen in that scope was something I thought would be boring...a blown tungsten lamp filament! I just did some quick scans of some of the electromicrographs I've done lately. They can be seen at http://www.neurotica.com/sem/images if you're interested. The blown tungsten lamp filament pics are filament-1.jpg and filament-2.jpg. >> Dave, Just out of curiosity, have you found any of that microart burned on I.C.'s yet? -Linc.

25 years, 4 months

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Hi Folks - home email speaking

by witchy＠vorbis.demon.co.uk

'ello, I'm subbed from home now and for some reason (probably lack of caffeine) made a bit of an arse of rebuilding the email server at work so it won't accept dialup connections. If anyone's replied to my missives since Thursday afternoon (UK time) would they please either repost or mail direct to me? cheers! PS coming soon - boxed Camputers Lynx :o) adrian/witchy (Adrian Graham) www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the Online Computer Museum 0:OK, 0:1

25 years, 4 months

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TI DS990 Documentation

by root＠diablonet.net

Just to let everyone know, I've been watching the conversation on the list the past few days regarding the TI 990 series of minicomputer systems, and as a result of what appears to be widespread demand, I've begun scanning a number of documents (datasheets, mostly, but also two bound volumes) regarding the TI 990 systems. These are primarily datasheets that my father recieved around twenty years ago when he was purchasing and using these systems as Chrysler Corporation. I think they've been sitting in the basement ever since. They're in pretty good condition, and they make interesting reading. I've got a small page set up as a jumping-off point for accessing datasheets about various models of equipment available at the following URL: http://www.diablonet.net/museum/ds990.html Please excuse my asthetics; some people say it's slightly hard to read. To jump right into the documentation directories, you can just go here: http://www.diablonet.net/museum/ti990 I hope someone out there finds these useful, or at least marginallly interesting! --Sean Caron (root(a)diablonet.net) | http://www.diablonet.net

25 years, 4 months

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My Collection

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

The microscope has a maximum magnification of about 150,000X. -Dave McGuire On April 13, Robert wrote: > What is the magnification? > > Dave McGuire wrote: > > > On April 13, Peter Joules wrote: > > > > http://www.neurotica.com/sem/images if you're interested. The blown > > > > tungsten lamp filament pics are filament-1.jpg and filament-2.jpg. > > > > > > That's amazing. I take it that the crystals had grown on the filament > > > during the life of the bulb had they? Does anyone know the mechanisn for > > > this? > > > > It is my understanding that those crystals grew during the > > "flameout" of the filament. > > > > I spent a solid six hours one night going over that filament. I > > wish Polaroid 550PN film wasn't so damn expensive. I need to build a > > digital imager for my microscope. > > > > -Dave McGuire

25 years, 4 months

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spurious post

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Sorry about that. Pressed the <SEND> button just as the net was going down :( ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

25 years, 4 months

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My Collection

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 13, Peter Joules wrote: > > http://www.neurotica.com/sem/images if you're interested. The blown > > tungsten lamp filament pics are filament-1.jpg and filament-2.jpg. > > That's amazing. I take it that the crystals had grown on the filament > during the life of the bulb had they? Does anyone know the mechanisn for > this? It is my understanding that those crystals grew during the "flameout" of the filament. I spent a solid six hours one night going over that filament. I wish Polaroid 550PN film wasn't so damn expensive. I need to build a digital imager for my microscope. -Dave McGuire

25 years, 4 months

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by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 11:51:56 -0400 (EDT) Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> writes: > On April 13, Jerome Fine wrote: > > Does anyone on the list run RT-11 still other than Megan Gentry? > > Do you tinker with the operating system code at all? Does anyone > > care about the RT-11 Operating System? > > I care about it; I like it quite a bit. I have a Micro 11/73 > running v5.4, and a Kevex X-ray analyzer (an accessory to the > electron > microscope) that has a pdp11/73 in it that runs RT-11. > > > -Dave McGuire ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

25 years, 4 months

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Collection list (just for phun) and wants

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Apr 13, 9:16, Tom Uban wrote: > I see you are looking for a TU56. Do you have a TC11 to control one? Not yet :-) Is that an offer? I've got the tapes for it :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager Dept. of Computer Science University of York

25 years, 4 months

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My Collection

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 13, John Foust wrote: > Isn't it a bit finicky when it comes to vacuum pumps, > cryogenics, etc.? After hanging out on the microscopy list, > I get the impression that even though people seem to be > giving away old electron microscopes as often as people > give away old mainframes, they'd be a bit hard to > maintain for home use. Not at all. Cryo setups are almost never really needed, unless you're running a cold trap on your vacuum system or an Xray detector. And there's nothing finicky about vacuum pumps...get a decent one, turn it on, and it just works. I'd say taht, for the adventurous hobbyist, an SEM at home is a very doable thing. I've had mine for about a year and have learned a great deal and had a huge amount of fun. What microscopy list are you talking about? Sounds like something I ought to be on. -Dave McGuire

25 years, 4 months

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Fw: My Collection

by jos.mar＠bluewin.ch

I'll join in ... SWTPC 6800 with 6809 CPU Zx81 BBC-B . A killer homecomputer, if not for the limited memory.. M68000 SBC ( with a 4MHz 68000...) 2 Mac Plus 2 Compaq Lunchboxes with plasma scrren. PDP8/L , power supply/ transformer dead . Anybody has some numbers on the secondary voltages so i can rewire a new one ?The various pdp8 websites do not have this information... ASR33, needs a clean and some debugging.... PDP8/E with TU56, 2x RK05, IOMEC papertape reader, Facit punch PDP8/F with TU56 and DSD440 PDP8/A with TU56 and RL01 VT100, hacked about to contain an 11/23, with external ST412, runs RX11. Anybody has some RT11 manuals available. Tek4014 in running state Philips P856 16 bit mini, no peripherals, no software... A TTL based 12bit computer of my own design. Plus some spares and various bits&pieces, and no room left... Jos Dreesen

25 years, 4 months

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Zdnn article...

by bpope＠wordstock.com

Check out this article on Zdnn: Computer junk: It's piling up 9:30 AM PT As the number of used machines take up space, computer makers are trying to set up an industrywide scheme to promote recycling before we're buried up to our necks in desktops. Suggestions? http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2707896,00.html <rant> The are so many *USEFUL* things that could be done with this computer equipment. They don't go into that here. Like http://www.newdealinc.com </rant> Bryan

25 years, 4 months

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Arizona trip ( i.e. Classic missiles )

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Classic Missiles My sister lives just down the road from several decommissioned Minuteman Silos, they are all over the middle of Missouri. Most are unmanned. The control center was at Knob Noster, Missouri, right down the road from Whiteman AFB the home of the B-2's. I've seen a few scared cows when a B-2 comes by on a low level run. They were going to blow up the Minuteman Silos but the neighbors complained about damage to the local water table because of waste oil, fluid leakage, lubricants and hydraulic fluid. They eventually demolished them and filled the holes with gravel. I think they wanted to make sure that the Russians didn't think we were going to secretly reactivate them. You could tell where they were by the little windsocks for the helicopter, the electric transformer on a pole and the fenced square with a gravel road leading to them. I've heard rumors that a few cattle had close encounters with the MP's when they walked through/over the fences looking for green grass. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

25 years, 4 months

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My Collection

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

I got motivated and took a few pics of it just a few minutes ago. They can be seen at http://www.neurotica.com/sem if you're interested. SEMs are some of the coolest devices ever put together, in my opinion. -Dave McGuire On April 13, Tony Eros wrote: > You've got an electron microscope? Cool! How small do those things get? > > -- Tony > > At 11:51 AM 4/13/2001 -0400, you wrote: > >On April 13, Jerome Fine wrote: > > > Does anyone on the list run RT-11 still other than Megan Gentry? > > > Do you tinker with the operating system code at all? Does anyone > > > care about the RT-11 Operating System? > > > > I care about it; I like it quite a bit. I have a Micro 11/73 > >running v5.4, and a Kevex X-ray analyzer (an accessory to the electron > >microscope) that has a pdp11/73 in it that runs RT-11. > > > > > > -Dave McGuire

25 years, 4 months

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Collection list (just for phun)

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 01-04-10 21:49:17 EDT, you write: << Quoting THETechnoid(a)home.com: > I'd like to see some of your lists. I bet some of you would be > hard pressedd to list your whole collection in a message that the > list server would accept (too large). >> blech, I'm traveling and can't think of what I all have. check my list at: www.nothingtodo.org/classiccmp/ccidxa2z.htm

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1702A EPROM Programming

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 13, Glenn Roberts wrote: > I've been working with someone who has an old 8080-based single board > computer he's trying to get to work. We're investigating several > possible problems but it's starting to look like there's a problem with > the EPROM. I have the ROM code he needs and will be checking out the > EPROMS, but we may be faced with a need to reprogram one or both of > these. They're the old 256 byte 1702A Intel chips (ceramic). I've only > programmed the 27xx series but have read that the 1702's are "really > difficult" to program. Was wondering if folks in this group could > comment on how to proceed if/when we decide we need to reprogram one of > these. Are there more modern plug compatible alternatives? We may also > need to replace one or both - any sources known other than eBay? > thanks. Wow...the 1702A required a -47V programming pulse, as I recall. Eeeek! -Dave McGuire

25 years, 4 months

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Collection list (looking for)

by jss＠ou.edu

> Another thing I would find interesting is/are lists of what people > are looking for.. I'm always looking for anything having to do with PDP-11s and their peripherals. I'm unsure as to what I'm going to end up with when the summer is over, so I can't be sure about anything specific. I suspect my want list includes (but is not limited to): DEC - Any PDP-11 central processor (especially 40, 45, 70) - RK05 (want 3+) - RP04 (want 1-2) - RA81 - paper-tape reader/punch - ASR33 - VT52 -- Jeffrey S. Sharp jss(a)ou.edu

25 years, 4 months

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SEMI-OT:Trainers, eval, and prototyping kits

by jbdigriz＠dragonsweb.org

My college course in electronic instrumentation had a lab section that used an E&L Instruments ADD 8000 for the experiments. I always wanted to get hold of one for my own use. I felt like the one I used was mine, anyway. They came in kit form, and since we were the first class, we had to assemble them. They were quite unaffordable by a poor student at the time, though. Anybody else familiar with this prototyping system or run across one anywhere? jbdigriz

25 years, 4 months

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My Collection

by musicman38＠mindspring.com

Here's a partial list of my collection. I have many more just not cataloged yet.. My Favorite is the Original Commodore Pet 8K, and Original Osborne 01 Tan case.. All my computers are working with the exception of 2 or 3.. Phil... Apple 2C Mint Monitor, Prtr,Manuals Apple 2GS Mint Prtr,Monitor,Drive Apple II Mint Assorted cards Apple IIe Mint 80 col card Apple IIe Mint DuoDisk,SCSI,Manuals Apple Iie Platinum good Asst Cards Apple II-plus dead Assorted Cards Atari XE Mint Kybrd, lots games Atari 400 Mint Many Extras + Carts Columbia XT Portable Mint 10 Meg Hard Drive Columbia XT Portable Dead Dual Floppy drives Columbia XT Portable Good Dual Floppy Columbia XT Portable Good 20 Mag HD Corona Portable XT VGood Dual Floppy Commodore 128 Mint Mint, Floppy, Printer Commodore 128 Good Missing 2 keys works Commodore 128 Ukwn Not Tested Commodore 16 Mint Box,Cassette,Manuals Commodore 16 Mint Box, Manuals Commodore 64 mint Box,Manuals Commodore 64 Mint Box,Manuals Commodore 64SX Exec Mint Runs great Commodore 64SX Dead Very Clean Commodore 8032 vgood 32K Ram Commodore Amiga 500 Mint Stock Commodore C128D Mint W/Kybd Commodore C128D Dead W/Kybd Commodore Pet Good Commodore Plus/4 Mint Box, Manuals Commodore Plus/4 Vgood Box, Manuals Commodore Plus/4 Mint In Box w/Manual Commodore Vic-20 M1 Mint Box, Manuals Commodore Vic-20 M2 Mint Box, Manuals Compaq Portable XT mint Dual Floppy Compaq Portable XT Mint Dual Floppy Compaq Portable XT Good 10 MB Hard Drive Compaq Portable XT Plus Dead 10 MB Hard Drive Compaq Portable II 286 Mint 20 MB Hard Drive Compaq Portable II 286 Mint 20 MB HD & Modem Franklin Ace 1200 Mint Dual Drive, Manuals IBM PC-Junior Mint Monitor, Expanded IBM PC-Junior Mint Monitor IBM PC-Junior Ukwn IBM PC-Junior Ukwn IBM Portable XT 5155 VGood Hard Drive, Floppy IBM PC-XT VGood Dual Floppy,10MB HD IBM PC-XT Mint Color,HD,20MB Kaypro 1 Vgood Works Perfectly Kaypro 1 Vgood Manuals Software Kaypro 10 Good Bad Hard Drive Kaypro 10 Vgood Works Fine Kaypro 10 Mint Perfect all Books/Sftwre Kaypro 16 Vgood Work Fine Kaypro 16-F Mint Dual Floppy - Rare Kaypro 2 Vgood Manuals, SOftware Kaypro 2X Good Mint CP/M & Manuals Kaypro 4-84 Mint Carrying Case Kaypro II Mint Manuals, Carry Case Kaypro II Good Works OK Laser 128 Vgood Manual Mattel Aquarius Mint Manuals, Cassette Mattel Aquarius Good Manuals Mattel Aquarius Mint Boxed w/All Periferals Osborne 01-A Mint White Screen Osborne 01-A Mint Green screen Osborne 01-A Dead Tech Manuals Osborne 01 Vgood Complete w/Manuals Osborne Executive Mint Manuals, Software Osborne Executive Poor Manuals, Software Radio Shack CoCo 1 Good 4K,Gray,Chicklet keys Radio Shack CoCo 1 Mint 16K, Manuals Radio Shack CoCo 1 Good 16K Ram Radio Shack CoCo 2 Mint 32K Ram, manuals Radio Shack CoCo 2 Good 32K Ram Radio Shack CoCo 2 Mint 64K Ram, Newer Kybd Radio Shack CoCo 3 Mint 64K RAM Radio Shack MC-10 Mint Box, Manuals,PS Radio Shack MC-10 Mint PS Radio Shack Model 1 Dead Radio Shack Model 1 Mint Level II Basic 16K RAM Radio Shack Model 100 Vgood Manual Radio Shack Model 102 Vgood Radio Shack Model 4 Good Radio Shack Model 4P Mint Manuals, Software Radio Shack Model 4P Good Tandy 1200FD Vgood Texas Instruments 99/4A Mint Silver/Blk Texas Instruments 99/4A Mint Beige/Tan Texas Instruments 99/4A Mint Mint in Box, Manual Texas Instruments TI99 Mint Silver/Blk Texas Instruments TI99 Mint Box,Manuals Beige Texas Instruments TI99/4A Good Beige/Tan TI-Expansion good Expansion Box Loaded TI-Expansion & Manuals Mint Manuals, Everything Loaded Timex 1000 poor Works Zenith Z170 Mint Manual, Very Clean Mac SE/30 Mint Clean, HD, SCSI Mac Plus Vgood Clean Mac Plus Vgood Clean Mac II LC Vgood Kybds Mac SE Vgood Clean Mac Laptop Bad Clean Mac 512 Vgood Clean Mac Classic II Mint Clean, SCSI HD

25 years, 4 months

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Newbie dancing hamsters questions

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

I think the idea is that you dress up like a hamster and dance when you are shocked. :) Prepayment is usually required in some fermented beverage. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

25 years, 4 months

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Collection list (just for phun)

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated Tue, 10 Apr 2001 7:16:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, THETechnoid(a)home.com writes: << I'd like to see some of your lists. I bet some of you would be hard pressedd to list your whole collection in a message that the list server would accept (too large). >> I'll give it a shot... Commodore Vic-20 Commodore 16 2 Commodore 64's 3 Commodore 128's Commodore Plus/4 Apple II+ 4 Apple //e's 2 Apple IIc's Apple IIc+ Tandy TRS-80 MC-10 P200MMX PC (Linux) P133 PC (SCO OSRV) 2 HP 9000/730's (HP-UX 10.20) Sparcstation 1 (Linux) Sparcstation 2 (clone - wish I knew who actually made it) (Linux) Sparcstation 20 (Linux) Vaxstation 3100 m38 (NetBSD) 486dx50 (FreeBSD) Decstation 5000/240 (NetBSD) Decstation 5000/125 (NetBSD) 2 Personal Decstation 5000/33's (Maxine's) (NetBSD) 2 Personal Iris 4D/35's (Irix - dunno version yet - haven't installed OS and have 2 to choose from) TRS-80 Model 100 laptop (basic) Toshiba t2400ct laptop (Linux) Compaq Contura 400c laptop (Linux) Compaq lte5100 laptop (Linux)

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FA: Technology books - hurry!

by chomko＠greenbelt.com

Programmer's Intro to IBM 360 Architecture, Instructions Set & Assembly Language (Student Guide) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1228259937 LSI11 PDP11/03 Processor Handbook - Digital http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1228298783 TTY 43 teleprinter Install and Service Guide http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1228307198 Harvard Symposium on Switching Theory 1957 -2 (rare) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1422329175 These end today!

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large load of old (non-PC) microcomputers available!

by west＠tseinc.com

I was contacted by a person in charge of liquidating the assets of an old school. They recently purchesed an old school building for other purposes, and found what they describe as a large amount of old microcomputers in storage there. They don't want them, and want to take offers for them. It sounds like they will take a "token donation" for a system or systems or maybe the whole lot. All I know at this point is that most of the systems are Commodore Pet, Commodore superPet, and TRS-80. I'd be suprised if there wasn't a bunch of apples there too, and lord knows what else. Location is Arizona. So far, they have asked that I be a single point of contact so they don't get innundated with calls. If anyone is interested, Please email me asap or they will wind up on the junk heap. Most importantly, are any interested list members in AZ (brisbane I think was the city) and could thus do a look-see, and maybe organize shipping, etc? Let me know! Jay West

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Technico (Re: TI Minicomputer?)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

No, Pics online. I have to get a camera for that or maybe borrow one. It would be interesting to line all of them up and photograph them. Allison ------Original Message------ From: "James B. DiGriz" <jbdigriz(a)dragonsweb.org> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Sent: April 13, 2001 3:08:56 AM GMT Subject: Re: Technico (Re: TI Minicomputer?) On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, ajp166 wrote: > >On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Eric Chomko wrote: > > > >> A company called 'Technico' put out a TI 9900-based single board mirco > back in > >> the > >> late 70s before TI had the 99/4. I rememebr building one for a class > project in > >> college. In fact, I got one in the attic that I need to frag out of of > these days > > > I have one and it's operational. Bought is back in '77. > > Allison > Do you happen to have a picture of it online anywhere, Allison? jbdigriz

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Places in Denver

by dlw＠trailingedge.com

I'm traveling up to Denver from Houston soon and wanted to see if anyone knew of some places to check out for old systems while I was there? What are the good thrift store chains there? Any other places? Thanks. ----- David Williams - Computer Packrat "When the mind is free of any thought or judgement, then and only then can we know things as they are." dlw(a)trailingedge.com http://www.trailingedge.com

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Newbie dancing hamsters questions

by dogbert＠mindless.com

Just wondering. How many Mhz or MIPS do you need to display dancing hamsters? What's the best way to get this to work using only a 7-segment LED for the display and telegraph sounder for sound output? My boss wants an estimate of how long it will take to implement this with a 4 bit CPU for under $1. Thanks very much in advance. ;) -- Ross

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Collection list (just for phun)

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Lessee, a partial listing of the 'fleet': SS-50: ---------- SwTPc 6800 SwTPc S/09 SSB Chieftain 9512 (in SwTPC cabinet) American Automation AA-570 Commies: --------------------------- VIC (With 64k Video Pak) C-64 (With Z-80 pak) C-128 PC's --------------------------- Brand X 286 test-bed 'Oklahoma' PC's Limited 286 'Utah' DTK 20MHz 386 running NetBSD 'Nevada' Brand X 233MHz AMD 6x86 running FreeBSD 'Missouri' Gateway P-166 Running Windows 95 'Michigan' HP's ---------------------------- HP-9000 model 16 HP-9000/360 'Eugen' HP-9000/375 'Bismark' Data General ---------------------------- AViiON AV-400 'Richlieu' AViiON AV-530 'Voltaire' DEC ---------------------------- PDP-11/23+ 'Hood' PDP-11/73 'Prince_of_Wales' MicroVax II 'Furious' VaxStation 3100m76 'Hermes' Other ---------------------------- H-89 Aquarius Fluke 1720A CoCo III At&t Unixpc 7300 AT&T UnixPC 3b1 ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Contemporary monitor

by wstan＠localhostnl.demon.nl

At some point I will need to replace my old monitor that is growing dim and blurry. I hope to replace it with a new contemporary monitor that is not too expensive. It will need to be multisync, sync on green, and have BNC input. Does anyone have experience with anything along that line? I know Iiyama has a couple models: Pro 410 and Pro 510. Sony is a bit too expensive. Any other brands and models? -Bill

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Technico (Re: TI Minicomputer?)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

For me to build it as a class project I'd have been the professor. I'd been out of school for a while by then. No, I wanted a 9900 based machine to see what was on the non intel track back then. My 9900, ELF, 6800d1 and SC/MP all came from that effort back then. I've had them since before 1979. Allison ------Original Message------ From: Eric Chomko <chomko(a)greenbelt.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Sent: April 13, 2001 4:07:02 AM GMT Subject: Re: Technico (Re: TI Minicomputer?) Did you build it for a class project? Techinco was based out of Columbia, MD. Eric ajp166 wrote: > From: James B. DiGriz <jbdigriz(a)dragonsweb.org> > > >On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Eric Chomko wrote: > > > >> > > >> > >> A company called 'Technico' put out a TI 9900-based single board mirco > back in > >> the > >> late 70s before TI had the 99/4. I rememebr building one for a class > project in > >> college. In fact, I got one in the attic that I need to frag out of of > these days > > I have one and it's operational. Bought is back in '77. > > Allison

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Withdrawn: Offer of system/36 parts (wet bar)

by tony.eros＠machm.org

Maybe it'll work twice -- I'll give it a try! I have an original power cord that was wired into an Altair 8800. I don't really _want_ to use it to hang a potted plant from a hook in my family room, but it looks like I'll have to. Unless, of course, some generous soul would be so kind as to give me the parts I'm missing to restore my power cord to its former complete Altair greatness. :-) -- Tony At 12:21 AM 4/13/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Please do accept our apology. > >I was hoping for a Protect Board for my System/36 and one was offered by a >generous list member. > >In hopes of keeping this system whole, I withdraw my offer of free >components. > >Sincere apologies to anyone concerned. > >Best wishes to all, > >The Technoid > >-- >----------------------------------------------------------- >Jeffrey S. Worley >President >Complete Computer Services, Inc. >30 Greenwood Rd. >Asheville, NC 28803 >828-277-5959 >Visit our website at HTTP://www.Real-Techs.com >THETechnoid(a)home.com >-----------------------------------------------------------

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Arizona trip

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

(Crossposted to CLASSICCMP and the milsurplus list) My mate and I will be visiting friends in Tucson around the end of May. While there, I aim to do some scrounging! I'm less interested in computer hardware (with one notable exception -- specifically, an Intermec bar-code label printer, direct thermal species) than I am in test equipment and radio hardware, both mil-surplus and commercial. In fact, I have need of a good source for used aircraft-type circuit breakers (the pop-button type, both DC and AC) at this time. Suggestions for scrounge stops in the Tucson/Phoenix area would be appreciated. Please keep in mind that I'll only have one day to do this. Thanks much. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77 (Extra class as of June-2K) "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates to me that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Gym Z. Quirk, aka Taki Kogoma).

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Collection list (just for phun)

by rachael_＠gmx.net

Here is my small collection Commodore Busness Machines -------------------------- Cbm 8296(i`m missing a 6545 or 6845 crtc IC and a new PSU for it) Cbm 8032sk with comal80 Commodore vic-20 Serveral Commodore 64`s Commodore 128 serveral 1541 and 1541II 8250lp dual floppy drive 8050 dual floppy drive Commodore 500 Commodore 600 Commodore cd32 Commodore 1200 Commodore 3000 (my second work machine) Commodore 4000 (the machine I`m using every day) Commodore pc60II other ----- philips g7000 philips odyssey 2001 Texas ti99/4a 2x zx81 with 16 and 64 memory expansion amstrad cpc464 with 512kb memory expansion Ibm 5160 xt Rc Piccolo (Saddly its broken, have`nt be able to repair it yet) Regards Jacob Dahl Pind -------------------------------------------------- = IF this computer is with us now... = =...It must have been meant to come live with us.= = (Belldandy - Goddess First class) = --------------------------------------------------

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Ohio Scientific PEEK (65) Journals

by dkuhn＠acsworld.net

Cleaning out more of my basement and old computer collection. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1229772880 Does anyone here think I could get anything for a Superboard 2 in a C1P Case with memory expansion/floppy controller board? It is escentially a C1P. If so, I could clean it up a bit and put it on ebay. If not, it will evenutally just get pitched. It is a piece of my history, but there has to come a point where I must let go. Thanks Dave

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Found Fujitsu FANUC/Siemens (CNC?) unit in our basement

by Arno_1983＠gmx.de

Chad Fernandez warned me: >Please don't send attachments to the list. This is bad form, in general, for any list. I think it is >supposed to be worse than off-topic threads :-) OK, now I know it was a good idea to ask first instead of sending 'em straight away... (Such rules should be mentioned in the FAQ or some kind of "Do's and Dont's" section of the classiccmp homepage, or did I just miss it when I was reading?!) As I think I won't have the time for creating a good web page in the near future, I'm rather going for the temporary storage approach, as suggested by Mike Ford: >One mentioned on another list is www.whalemail.com that allows something like 75 MB of free >temporary storage. I'll also be waiting the next few days and only get myself some space if any reply to my post actually caring about the machine arrives - why offer the pics if nobody knows the box and/or wants to have a look at? Arno Kletzander Arno_1983(a)gmx.de -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net

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Collection list (just for phun)

by LFessen106＠aol.com

I have to say that this is one of the most interesting topics that we have discussed lately and it ereminds me why I actually joined the list in the first place! Another thing I would find interesting is/are lists of what people are looking for.. For instance, I would really like to get a hold of a GRiD laptop - one of the 15xx series (386/486's). I have a GRiDcase 3 and really like it but it isn't really a daily useable computer - more of a collectors item. I could squeze Linux or NetBSD on a newer one and have an indestructable workstation. Slightly off topic (not quite 10), but I am also looking for an inexpensive Multia for a project I am working on. Also looking to get a hold of another smaller Vax or two (really like those), and an HP 9000/3xx as well. -Linc Fessenden

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Chicago area sites

by brian.roth＠firstniagarabank.com

I can understand the hard drive issue. I used to live in Kentucky and I used to go to the sale at Ft. Knox every month. It definitely was my favorite DRMO sale behind Columbus. Quite often, the machines I received had "A LOT" of information on them that although not classified, was certainly private. It Brian. was fun rummaging around all the lots of equipment with rounds of ordinance blasting in the distance. I'll never forget on one of my best huals of equipment, I wedged a Penske rental truck under one of the overpass's there. A couple of soldiers help me let the air out of the tires and reinflate them when it was clear. Its hilarious when I think of it now but when it happened...... Brian. Brian Roth Network Services First Niagara Bank (716) 625-7500 X2186 Brian.Roth(a)FirstNiagaraBank.com

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DC area sites

by Demon02554＠aol.com

In a message dated 4/13/01 12:09:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, chomko(a)greenbelt.com writes: << the Penatgon could keep you busy for a whole year! >> im in no mood to go to jail...i was almost detained for asking..ASKING some people at Network Solutions if they had any old hardware that they no longer planned to use

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Technico (Re: TI Minicomputer?)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: James B. DiGriz <jbdigriz(a)dragonsweb.org> >On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Eric Chomko wrote: > >> > >> >> A company called 'Technico' put out a TI 9900-based single board mirco back in >> the >> late 70s before TI had the 99/4. I rememebr building one for a class project in >> college. In fact, I got one in the attic that I need to frag out of of these days I have one and it's operational. Bought is back in '77. Allison

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DC area sites

by Demon02554＠aol.com

anyone know any places where I could find stuff in the suburbs southwest of DC (Fairfax County) whether it be through dumpster diving or second hand stores thanks, Robert Cobbins

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New 1802 (ELF) Emulator, Website

by dave＠ruske.net

First, sorry for that first post in HTML. With luck, I've got that remedied. Bad client, BAD!! Ethan Dicks wrote: > Is there any chance of a revision to emulate the appearance of the TIL311 > displays when in "Elf" mode? Even though they were expensive, I always > like the way they looked (one of the early bugs I mentioned on Bill > Richman's emulator was that there was an extra row of dots in his rendered > TIL311s). Easily done; look for it in the next release. The TIL311 *is* a cool display. My low-budget ELF had to make due with seven segments, but what the heck, now it's in software. It strikes me funny that the size of a bitmap for one digit (8 bit depth) takes up several times the memory of the original 256 byte ELF! Oh the waste of it all... Sellam Ismail wrote: > I created a new section in the VCF Link Library for RCA: Thanks, Sellam, I appreciate it! Dave Ruske dave(a)ruske.net

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Heath/Zenith stuff

by mbg＠world.std.com

I believe the HT-11 distributed by Heath was a modified version of RT-11, but standard RT-11 did and does work on the H-11. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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TI Minicomputer?

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

I think there was an entire line of TI minicomputers that were sold off by TI to HP. I have part of a TI explorer and several TI 1100's and 1500's. These minicomputers are still used by several HMO's in Kansas City for some medical billing application. My local computer surplus has 6-7 of them. There were ASCII TI terminals that went with the system. I seem to remember that there was a terminal emulation application for the TI-99/4's. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu

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Update on dates for VCF East

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> > >It came to my attention that June 23-24 is the nationwide AARL event >weekend so I have decided against holding the VCF on that weekend. I'm >currently looking at the weekend of July 14-15 in Worcester or July 28-29 >in Marlborough. I'd push myself for Marlborough as its real close, likely the cost for the hall is much cheaper too. Allison

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Message for Bruce Lane

by jpl15＠panix.com

Well, Bruce, I've tried to reply privately to your Tucson message from my private and office accounts... both bounce with 'host unknown' errmsgs. I can understand wishing to guard against Colds and Flu, but wearing a spacesuit 24/7 to accomplish that is a little... dare I use the word... obsessive? ;} A shame too, I have contacts in Tucson... O well... "I wanted to join Paranoiacs Anonymous, but when I called for info the guy on the other end asked to know how I got their number, started screaming about just exactly how I knew they were there, and slammed the phone down on me. Next day, when I called back, the number was disconnected." Chz John

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Heath/Zenith stuff

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Bill Gunshannon <bill(a)cs.scranton.edu> >>Your thinking of the Heath H11 which was in fact an LSI-11/02. But it had none DEC hardware peripherals like the console SLU and disk controller. IT was an LSI-11/03. The 03 card had 4kw or ram on it and was quad width where the /02 card was dual width and no ram. >>By the way, they were not the only non-DEC LSI-11 system. The Terak also was an 11/02 with custom console and disk hardware. The list of companies that also shipped the base dec hardware repackaged is rather lone and includes Charles River, ISI, DSD, Tektronix and likely many I missed. DEC sold those boards (cpu and supporting) as peice parts for the embedded systems of the day to people that did NC mills, gas analysers, plant controls to name a few. It's part of the reason why PDP-11 Qbus hardware is so common and still in widespread use. Allison -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves bill(a)cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include <std.disclaimer.h>

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TI Minicomputer?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Eric Dittman <dittman(a)dittman.net> wrote: > > Did the 990's go to HP with the Unix systems, or to Siemens or Fujitsu or > > somebody else, or were they just abandoned? > > I don't know where they went, but my guess is they were just > abandoned. Pretty much so. They did not go to HP with the S1500. Al Kossow has what info he has been able to turn up on his Minicomputer Orphanage web page: <http://www.spies.com/~aek/orphanage.html>. -Frank McConnell

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Tampa Area Sites

by gene＠ehrich.com

At 08:20 AM 4/12/01 -0500, you wrote: >I have still never seen anyone on the list post any info on >good places in the Chicago area to find computer goodies. What about the Tampa Bay area. Any good locations around here?

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VCF East in Worcester

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

I'll batch up my replies into one, sorry for the non-attributions.... >What about facilities for those choosing more reasonable means of long >and short distance transportation, such as train stations and boarding >stables? Trains, yes, an Amtrak station, but as others have pointed out, the route may not be direct. I would suggest calling Amtrak and trying to find out about direct routes. Other than that, you could go to Boston or Providence, and most likely get transport to Worcester from there (by bus, most likely, and it's only about 1hr. from Boston, or 45 min. from Providence by bus/car)... >> By the way, do I get any points for suggesting Worcester? :-) >Yes, as in the points surrounding a bulls-eye painted on you so that >we can keep score when the pieces of buck-shot, or at least peas from >pea-shooters, start heading your way for choosing such an annoyingly >distant location for most people on the east coast - and for >suggesting that the festival be held on the wrong side of the >Mason-Dixon line. :-) HEY! I just suggested it. Sellam chose it! :-) And as I understand it, it was a very scientific method he used to choose the spot. :-) I never even dreamed he was thinking of New England until he mentioned Providence, so I just jumped in. I figured Boston would be WAY too expensive, especially if Providence was... Besides "annoyingly distant" is relative -- as your annoyance goes down, mine goes up :-) >The plus is the Ararat restaurant on Burncoat Street, which is about the >only thing I can think ofto go to Worcester for. The Higgins Armoury >is pretty cool, though. For eats, Eric's La Pattisserie, Shorah's, The Firehouse Cafe, Aku-Aku (not great, but close to the venue), and Cafe Dolce (EXCELLENT coffee/tea/pastries!) come to mind. For entertainment, try these: EcoTarium, Foothills Theater, Mechanics Hall, and the Worcester Art Museum. For shopping, the Worcester Common Outlets are right next door to the Centrum Center (also a decent fast-food food court) There are many more, but I'm of course biased :-) I will admit however that Providence's Federal Hill area trounces most Worcester restaurants, and you might even get a chance to see the resident criminal^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H mayor Buddy Cianci at one :-) Rich B.

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Collection list (just for phun)

by frustum＠pacbell.net

At 07:13 PM 4/10/01 -0400, THETechnoid wrote: >I'd like to see some of your lists. I bet some of you would be hard >pressedd to list your whole collection in a message that the list server >would accept (too large). I don't have a lot of machines, but I do focus more on quality than quantity after all: - i432 development system - the original 4004 mask set - IBM 5100 prototype - Apple I (qty 6) - EDSAC 1 (re-wired to run off 120V) - CRAY-1 (mint; still in shrinkwrap) - Steve Wozniak (mostly working, but sometimes needs power cycling) - Zuse Z1 (does anybody here have a copy of the boot disk?) - Analytical Engine running MSDOS 1.00 My wife is getting kind of pissed about having all this stuff in the garage, though, so I might start trading this stuff for some calculators or something smaller. ----- Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net

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Early Grid connector cable

by lgwalker＠look.ca

I have a large 5 1/4 Grid fdd, mod# 2022 with 2 50 pin (17-16-17) connectors on the back. It is dated 1982. I also have the cable. Anyone know what model this beast hooked up to and what this connector is called. larry Reply to: lgwalker(a)look.ca

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Crays and i432s (Was: RE: Apple 1's was Re: Collection list (jus t for phun))

by CordaAJ＠nswc.navy.mil

I wonder if the shrinkwrapped Cray-1 has one of those shrinkwrap licenses... i.e. "By opening this package you are agreeing to..." :) BTW, I wouldn't mind getting my hands on an i432... a long time ago ('84?) I actually worked on one for a year or so in an attempt to get it to do something useful. I had some success, but was continually hampered by having to run over to another building to use their VAX as a cross-compiler. Now that I have a VAX sitting on my desk at home I imagine I could probably do quite a bit more! It was a unique architecture (quite a bit ahead of it's time) but hampered by the lack of provision for I/O (usually handled by a 8086 co-processor board) and the lack of a native OS based development package. -al- > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 12:12 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Apple 1's was Re: Collection list (just for phun) > > > > The likelihood of someone having six Apple 1s is similar to that of > having an i432 dev system, the original 4004 mask set, an ibm 5100 > proto, an EDSAC1, or a shrinkwrapped Cray-1. Or even possibly Steve > Wozniak (hopefully in shrinkwrap) etc etc etc. > > -Dave McGuire > > On April 12, Lawrence Walker wrote: > > Was this a typo or do you really have 6 Apple 1's. > > > > larry > > > > > At 07:13 PM 4/10/01 -0400, THETechnoid wrote: > > > >I'd like to see some of your lists. I bet some of you > would be hard > > > >pressedd to list your whole collection in a message that > the list server > > > >would accept (too large). > > > > > > I don't have a lot of machines, but I do focus more on > quality than > > > quantity after all: > > > > > > - i432 development system > > > - the original 4004 mask set > > > - IBM 5100 prototype > > > - Apple I (qty 6) > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > - EDSAC 1 (re-wired to run off 120V) > > > - CRAY-1 (mint; still in shrinkwrap) > > > - Steve Wozniak (mostly working, but sometimes needs > power cycling) > > > - Zuse Z1 (does anybody here have a copy of the boot disk?) > > > - Analytical Engine running MSDOS 1.00 > > > > > > My wife is getting kind of pissed about having all this > stuff in the > > > garage, though, so I might start trading this stuff for > some calculators or > > > something smaller. > > > > > > ----- > > > Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply to: > > lgwalker(a)look.ca >

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GRiDPAD 1910 battery

by bills＠adrenaline.com

I've started messing around with a GRiDPAD 1910 I got a couple of years ago. Works fine on AC using the brick that came with it, but the two battery packs I got with it are dead. They won't take a charge, either in the machine or connected directly to the brick (they have a socket for this). The specs printed on the batteries list 12 volts, 1Ah. I opened one of the packs and the contents look very much like 10 AA batteries. I'm wondering if I can replace the contents of the battery pack with 10 AAs. The specs printed on the AC brick say it produces 17.25 volts at 2A. If I replace the contents of the battery pack with 10 AAs, I figure I'll get around 15 volts. Anybody want to hazard a guess as to whether this will work? Thanks, Bill Sudbrink

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Chicago Area Sites

by brian.roth＠firstniagarabank.com

Bob, I don't know how far it is from Chicago but I used to go to the DRMO salvage sale at Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio. Its been a while since I have been to one but there used to be some good stuff that used to go through that sale. Brian. Brian Roth Network Services First Niagara Bank (716) 625-7500 X2186 Brian.Roth(a)FirstNiagaraBank.com

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Apple 1's was Re: Collection list (just for phun)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

The likelihood of someone having six Apple 1s is similar to that of having an i432 dev system, the original 4004 mask set, an ibm 5100 proto, an EDSAC1, or a shrinkwrapped Cray-1. Or even possibly Steve Wozniak (hopefully in shrinkwrap) etc etc etc. -Dave McGuire On April 12, Lawrence Walker wrote: > Was this a typo or do you really have 6 Apple 1's. > > larry > > > At 07:13 PM 4/10/01 -0400, THETechnoid wrote: > > >I'd like to see some of your lists. I bet some of you would be hard > > >pressedd to list your whole collection in a message that the list server > > >would accept (too large). > > > > I don't have a lot of machines, but I do focus more on quality than > > quantity after all: > > > > - i432 development system > > - the original 4004 mask set > > - IBM 5100 prototype > > - Apple I (qty 6) > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > - EDSAC 1 (re-wired to run off 120V) > > - CRAY-1 (mint; still in shrinkwrap) > > - Steve Wozniak (mostly working, but sometimes needs power cycling) > > - Zuse Z1 (does anybody here have a copy of the boot disk?) > > - Analytical Engine running MSDOS 1.00 > > > > My wife is getting kind of pissed about having all this stuff in the > > garage, though, so I might start trading this stuff for some calculators or > > something smaller. > > > > ----- > > Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net > > > > > > > > Reply to: > lgwalker(a)look.ca

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CDP-1802 Final List

by ewy＠southwind.net

Ok, I'm going to close the list for the 1802s for now. Here are the people I have. If you sent me email about this and I've missed you, let me know. Dave McGuire Alex Knight Peter Turnbull Ethan Dicks Mike Haas Robert Cobbins Tony Eros Mike Cheponis Chandra Bajpai Richard A. Cini, Jr. Jeff Hellige Richard Schauer I'll be in touch with each of you individually by email to confirm that you still want the parts and exchange shipping addresses and so forth. I think that personal checks will probably be the easiest thing for me to handle at this point. Some of you have suggested PayPal, and I'll probably look into that in the future, but if I try to set that up right now it'll just delay things further. Sorry I'm not real quick about all this -- I can do real preemptive multitasking, but I've only got an 8-bit data bus to work with, and I have to keep swapping these clunky 8K blocks in and out of my 16-bit address space. Besides, I've got to do all this to the tune of a 1.87 Mhz clock. But I _do_ have a hardware MUL! That's all to say that I'll get it all done, but it may take me a while. If any of you have a real good reason to want to get some chips fast, let me know and I'll push you on the stack last. JCE -- Joel Ewy mailto:ewy@southwind.net http://www2.southwind.net/~ewy

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Heath/Zenith stuff

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Ineed it was. It was also about one version behind and contained many heath specific drivers such as the DX/DY driver for the floppy. It did run all version of DEC RT-11 as the floppy had a RX01 compatability mode. The serial cards were DL compatable and the punch was PC04 compatable. Allison ------Original Message------ From: Megan <mbg(a)world.std.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Sent: April 12, 2001 12:38:15 PM GMT Subject: Re: Heath/Zenith stuff I believe the HT-11 distributed by Heath was a modified version of RT-11, but standard RT-11 did and does work on the H-11. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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WGBH Video

by brian.roth＠firstniagarabank.com

Ram, Great ! Let me know when you find it and I'll send you postage and some blank tapes. I should have checked with the list first. BTW the sun workstations are going out today priority. Thanks for your patience. Brian. Hi Brian I have a copy of it but the problem is I dont know where I put it :-( Also, I missed a couple of minutes from some of the series (I believe the last one), but other than that, it is a great series. I am currently moving so most of the stuff is boxed up. Once I finish moving, I can make a copy for you. Ram PS: Still waiting for the SUN :-) - Brian Roth Network Services First Niagara Bank (716) 625-7500 X2186 Brian.Roth(a)FirstNiagaraBank.com

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Why Worcester was chosen for VCF East 1.0

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

For those who are griping about the drive, Worcester does have a small airport. Many commuter shuttles and smaller commercial aircraft fly in and out on a regular basis. Hotels abound in Worcester as well... By the way, do I get any points for suggesting Worcester? :-) Rich B.

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WGBH Video

by brian.roth＠firstniagarabank.com

Does anyone have a copy or know where to purchase the video series "The machine that changed the world" that was produced by WGBH for Nova? I remember recording it years ago but have since misplaced it. It hasn't been available for purchase for a while as I understand. Brian. Brian Roth Network Services First Niagara Bank (716) 625-7500 X2186 Brian.Roth(a)FirstNiagaraBank.com

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Hayes Transet 1000

by donm＠cts.com

Today I picked up a Hayes Transet 1000, and I don't know anything about it! It comes in the classic Hayes extruded aluminum case with black plastic caps on either end. It is one of the older products as it uses the 13.5vac wall-wart. The panel at the user end has 8 LED indicators and 3 pushbutton switches. The indicators are numbered and identified from left to right as listed below: 1 PWR 2 RDY 3 MRK 4 RPY 5 A 6 B 7 C 8 D The switches are lettered and identified as follow: X SELECT Y MARK Z REPLAY At the 'business' end there are three D-sub connectors in assition to the 3-pin AC power connector. The D-subs are as follow: 15s PORT P1 9p PORT S1 9s PORT S2 Does anyone have any information about this critter - better yet, documentation - or ever used one? Thanks! - don

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Collection list (just for phun)

by agraham＠ccat.co.uk

> ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:13:54 -0400 > From: THETechnoid(a)home.com > Subject: Collection list (just for phun) > > I'd like to see some of your lists. I bet some of you would be hard > pressedd to list your whole collection in a message that the > list server would accept (too large). Too right - plus I've already listed mine in a Netscape and aIEeeee friendly way, and I'm working on making it Lynx friendly for Tony :) (BTW Tony, I *will* post your MicroProfessor!) It's always fun when you get mentioned in a national Computer paper! Anyway, its at www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk and as of today I've added an Atari Lynx (bought only because it had a DOOM cart :o) and a Sinclair Scientific Calculator with leatherette case, power pack in case and programming cards......I wasn't chuffed at all! Not bad for 5 english pounds. Other machines coming soon are an unboxed Camputers Lynx 96, and hopefully a boxed one if my price is accepted.......they're like buses these things - wait 2 years then 2 come along at once :o) Happy Easter, people. I'm on holiday next week so I'll sub up from home. -- Adrian Graham MCSE/ASE/MCP C CAT Limited Gubbins: http://www.ccat.co.uk (work) <http://www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk> (home) <http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk> (The Online Computer Museum, as featured in Computer Weekly) 0/0

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Found Fujitsu FANUC/Siemens (CNC?) unit in our basement

by Arno_1983＠gmx.de

Hi folks (especially fellow kids) out there, using your easter holidays to dig through stuff in your parents' basement can be fun...I ended up yesterday with a long-forgotten Fujitsu FANUC/Siemens 19" unit (in a cardboard box with lotsa connectors, replacement fuses and even some paperwork for it) which gives me the general impression of once having been used to control some kind of NC drilling/milling/whatsoever machine. As I'm not very good at describing stuff, I called a friend and we took some shots with his digicam. I can't offer them on a homepage like all the others (haven't got one yet); will it work if I simply send them to the list as an attachment to one of my posts? The thing consists of a metal frame with a PSU as the base unit, a keyboard PCB directly behind the front panel, a bus board (also upright-standing) behind that, and three PCBs plugging into it from the back side. Two cooling fans blow into the casing from the left side. The back side of the PSU held a 4.5V memory backup battery that made a gigantic mess by losing some of its contents while in storage, creating bluish-white crusts on the frame and inside the cardboard box...Except for one corner of the PSU regulator board, the electronics were apparently not affected. There is no front label telling the model or anything (Inside the machine, there is a metal Siemens type label with the number 321/22113 on it), but I remember seeing the thing together with a monitor (also 19" form factor) labeled "SIEMENS Sinumerik ..."; I'm afraid my parents eventually tossed that some time ago. Why didn't I always care about Vintage Computers the way I do nowadays...? The included documentation is: -A4 "Siemens Sinumerik logbook" (empty) -A3 "FANUC mate TG Maintenance Drawing" (from 1979, with notes both in English and Japanese) -A4 "FANUC Customer's Maintenance Instruction (for ulti-mate TG)" -A4 "FANUC MATE TG Data sheet" The last one gives a model (A03B-0402-B001) and a serial number (1883815), October 1980 as date of manufacture, and Siemens AG as customer. According to the rule that the processor "always is the big socketed IC", in this case we deal with an MB8861H, a 40-pin DIL IC in a white ceramic housing. The schematics call it the MPU (=Main Processing Unit?). I am looking forward to your replies, especially as I hope to get a hint on what the system is capable of. Perhaps even enough to persuade my parents into keeping it and looking for a monitor somewhere... Arno Kletzander Arno_1983(a)gmx.de -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net

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Collection list (just for phun)

by kapteynr＠cboe.com

I have been lurking here for a while, thinking about getting into the field. None of you seem to be in and around Chicago ?? Anyway, I have a nice start with the computers that I bought when they were new. MITS Altair 8800 (early model with the short panel switches) -- this includes a number of hand-made wire-wrapped gadgets, original box (very tattered), original MITS invoices, original assembly manuals (for the kit), and Microsoft's first version of Altair BASIC on paper-tape with the original manual. It all worked about 15 years ago. Fortune Systems 32:16. Fortune attempted to mass-market a 68000-based unix box. A great machine -- but it was introduced a few months before the the IBM PC -- which doomed it. I also have a lot of mac stuff, including an early Mac II; a PowerMac 6100/60, various PCs. I also have a number of old industrial PLCs -- Modicon, Allen Bradley, GE Series One.

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Collection list (just for phun)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 10, THETechnoid(a)home.com wrote: > I'd like to see some of your lists. I bet some of you would be hard > pressedd to list your whole collection in a message that the list server > would accept (too large). Hmm. This is from memory, and some of the items here aren't ten years old yet, while others are still in production use here. This is simply all of the "older" systems here that I have stuck in my head. DEC PDP ------- PDP8/e (two) PDP8/m PDP11/03, /05, /23, /24, /34a, /53, /73 (several) Pro350, 380 (several) SBC11/21 PDT11/150 MINC-11 DEC VAX ------- MicroVAX-I MicroVAX-II (several) VAXstation-II (several) MicroVAX-2000 (several) VAXstation-2000 (several) MicroVAX-3000 series (several) MicroVAX 3100 VAXstation 3100 (several, various models) VAXstation 3540 VAXstation 4000/60, /90 VAX4000-200, -300, -400 (two), -700A VAX8350 VAX8700 DEC RISC -------- DECstation 2100, 3100 (several) DECstation 5000/120, /125, /133 (several) DECstation 5000/200, /240 (several) DECsystem 5810 DECsystem 5900 Cray ---- YMP/EL94 (not quite ten years old) YMP/EL98 (ditto) Sun --- Sun 2/120 Sun 3/50 (several) Sun 3/60 (several) Sun 3/110, 3/160 Sun 3/260 Sun 4/110 (several), 4/150, 4/260, 4/330, 4/470 Sun 4/630MP, 4/670MP SPARCstation-1/1+/2 SPARCstation-SLC/ELC SPARCclassic (several) SPARCstation-LX (several) Older SGI --------- Crimson Jurassic Classic NeXT ---- NeXT '030 cube NeXT '040 cube (several) NeXT '040 turbo cube NeXTstation NeXTstation turbo NeXTstation turbo color (several) HP -- HP-85 HP-87XM HP-71D HP-75C HP-75D HP9000/340 HP9000/715 (several) HP9000/735 (several) HP Calculators -------------- HP10C HP11C HP12C (several) HP25C HP28C HP28S HP29C HP35 HP45 (several) HP41C HP41CV (several) HP41CX HP48SX HP65 HP67 (several) HP80 HP97 (several) Micros ------ IMSAI 8080 TRS-80 Model 4 TRS-80 Pocket Computer I Timex/Sinclair 1000 AT&T ---- UnixPC 7300 (several) 3B1 (several) 3B2/300 SBCs/eval boards ---------------- Intel SDK-85 HP 8085 briefcase trainer various 8080 trainers various 6800 trainers Heathkit ET-3400 6802 trainer (several) AMD Am2901 eval board MIPS R3000 eval board

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Why Worcester was chosen for VCF East 1.0

by mbg＠world.std.com

>Wanna provide 2-meter talk in? I know there are a bunch of good local repeaters... a few are run by the group at WPI... Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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vt100 & graphics

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> >On April 8, emanuel stiebler wrote: >> In the beginning of the '80 I was sitting on a VT100 with an >> additional/optional >> "selenar graphics board" >> >> Anybody out here, ever heard of such beast or has one ? >> >> As far as I remember, it had an z80 on it, and was emulating an >> Tektronix 4010 or something similar. I dont recall it being 401x anything. It was SIXEL or Regis. > Now, though, I have two VT100s with the VT125 graphics option >installed. They're neat! Best viewed with Barco Color monitor attached. Allison

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Source for GRiD parts

by paul＠orchard.wccnet.org

http://www.primelec.com/grid.html Paul R. Santa-Maria

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Looking for Dongleville

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated Thu, 5 Apr 2001 6:28:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> writes: << >> Noteworthy SCSI II adapter, NWSCSI01 >> 3Com EtherLink 10bt, 3C589D >> Xircom Netwave Adapter, CNW > >I believe www.computersurplusoutlet.com had some 3com dongles >at $7.00 -- but I don't know if they're for that model. 3Com I don't sweat, fairly common, I "may" even have one, and one style of dongle fits a bunch of 3Com cards. I mention it mostly on the chance that some member of the list is the grand dragon of dongle collecting, sitting on a huge hoard of dongles. >> 3c589d needs the 10b2/10bT dongle - or at least mine does :-) -Linc Fessenden

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Why Worcester was chosen for VCF East 1.0

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Bill Pechter <pechter(a)pechter.dyndns.org> >> Megan Gentry >> Former RT-11 Developer > >Wanna provide 2-meter talk in? > >Bill >N2RDI If she dont I can. ;) There are a potload of repeaters in the region wil excellent coverage too. Allison KB1GMX ---- and the gimmics are all mine----

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Henk Gooijen's PDP-11 prints online

by djg＠drs-esg.com

> From: John Foust <jfoust(a)threedee.com> > At 10:35 PM 4/10/01 -0400, David Gesswein wrote: > >The software I use to make my tiff files available as PDF will convert > >them. > >ftp://ftp.pdp8.net/software/c42pdf/ > > So this tool just creates a simple PDF containing all the G4 TIFFs? > Yes > This morning I was looking at the 20K+ scanned pages of documents > I received recently. They're all G4 TIFF, about 800 megs worth. > The scans are quite clean, but it's just directories of loose files, > page0001.tif, page0002.tif, etc. > The tiffcp program I use with it will combine separate tiff pages into one document. > TIFF-based multi-page single-linked PDFs would be good, but > OCR'd and searchable in conjunction with the bitmap would be even better. > > I've got Acrobat 4.0 for my Mac G4, but that doesn't OCR, does it? > I played with OCR a while ago and none were accurate enough that you didn't need to spend a lot of time cleaning up if you were only using the OCR output. They also had problems maintaining format but did pretty good if you went to PDF. PDF does have an ability to store documents with both the bitmap for viewing/printing and OCR text to allow searching etc. Adobe capture is the big one for that but expensive. Pagis used to support it and was inexpensive but dropped that capability. Links from when I was looking. Since I still had/have lots of documents left to scan I decided fancy features which take time can wait. http://web3.humboldt1.com/~jiva/ocr/_ocr_resource.htm http://cpdf.adobe.com/index.pl/4224310545.38939?BP=NS http://www.pdfzone.com/ Let me know what you find that you like. David Gesswein http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Run an old computer with blinkenlights

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USR Sportster 56k x2

by catman＠dia.net

Howdy, Yesterday I went to a couple of secondhand stores in town. I was excited to find a U.S. Robotics 56k x2 Sportster Modem with the original box (for a Macintosh) for one dollar! I have an identical one that I use & I was glad to get another one to upgrade my Mom's Mac from 33.6k to 56k. I figured it would be easy to update it to v.90 with the USR Update Wizard because that's what I did to mine a couple of years ago. WRONG! The server that the Wizard dialed has a busy signal. After searching on the web for half an hour, I finally tried calling U.S. Robotics. After sitting on hold for 20 minutes & being asked stupid questions for another 10, I finally got my answer. That update server has been down for 4 months ever since USR & 3Com split the sheets. So I asked if I could get a disk to use (the updater can update via phone or disk). NO! Unavailable! So imagine my chagrin now when my bargain modem is hobbled at 56k x2. I think it is only connecting at 33.6k, but Remote Access reports "unknown speed". Would anybody have the disk that the Update Wizard needs to bring me to v.90. Also, I found a Amstrad PC1512 & a Visual Commuter Computer. Are these collectible or just more ordinary PC clones? Thanks, Steve C. Williston, ND

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Where to find 44pin edge cards/ 6502 d/l freeware

by dogbert＠mindless.com

Used to be, you could go to Radio Shock and purchase one of those solder-yourself 44-pin edgecards that mate with the KIM-4 expansion board. I'm thinking one way around my dead keyboard issue which also solves my desire for expansion would be to add a CPLD decoder, 32K SRAM, 32K ROM (with holes around the 6530s and remapping new patched monitor into $1800-$1FFF), and 6551 UART/MAX232 combo to input code and d/l intel hex. (The cassette interface on poor KIM is dead, too.) By the way, if anyone's interested, I have a generic 6502 Intel Hex program downloader program that allows you to assemble and directly download programs from the development PC into your SBC. It's freeware so have at it if anyone finds it useful. It's at: http://www.6502.org/source/monitors/intelhex/intelhex.htm

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Why Worcester was chosen for VCF East 1.0

by vcf＠siconic.com

I've gotten some griping about my selection for the location of the first VCF East. No doubt, a good majority of folks will be quite happy with the selection. This is no accident. The site was chosen based on the demographics I collected. Most of the attendees will be coming from Massachusetts and surrounding areas. As with any sensible business decision, it was based on what will hopefully bring as many attendees to the event, which in turn means I will be able to recoup expenses and will therefore want to continue to do Festivals on the east coast. I received over 150 responses to the VCF East survey. Here is a summary of the results: This chart shows the number of responses received from each state, sorted by number of attendees in descending order. State Count ----- ----- MA 27 NY 15 PA 12 NH 8 MD 7 OH 5 NJ 4 FL 4 CT 3 VT 3 GA 3 RI 2 VA 2 NC 2 IN 2 IL 2 MN 2 ME 1 WV 1 MI 1 WI 1 IA 1 MO 1 TX 1 - Nearly 25% of potential attendees will be coming from MA alone - 40% of potential attendees will be coming from the New England area - If you include NY, PA and NJ with New England, nearly 70% will be coming from this combined northeast region There was also a strong desire to keep the event close to the Rhodes Island Computer Museum and the Retro-Computing Society of Rhodes Island so that tours to those facilities could be organized. Providence is only about 45 minutes from Worcester. There are also several other museums that I hope to get involved with the event, including the MIT and Harvard museums and the Computer Museum in Boston. Worcester is still within only a few hours of where most of the potential attendees will be coming from. I don't know how you east coast folks perceive distance, but I've lived in California all my life and a 6-hour drive from the San Francisco bay area to the Los Angeles area is no big deal to me. I made the round-trip in one day a couple weekends ago to pick up an old computer. Driving a couple to three hundred miles should not be a major ordeal for most folks. So there you have it, the reasoning behind the selection of the location for VCF East 1.0. I know it won't please everyone, but the unhappy folks need to realize it has to be held where it makes the most sense. I really look forward to VCF East, and I hope you easterly folks do too :) Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

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A couple of Trade Items

by dittman＠dittman.net

I have a Macintosh IIfx and a Macintosh Powerbook 100 that I'm removing from my collection (I'm trying to be a little more focused). Does anyone have any DEC items for trade? My biggest need is a replacement Pro380 mainboard. I have the external floppy for the PB100, but the battery is dead. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net

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Why Worcester was chosen for VCF East 1.0

by mbg＠world.std.com

I also am a WPI alum. 1974-1978... Although that weekend is the same as the ARRL field day, I will take some time to attend (and maybe even show some stuff)... Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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OT somewhat. China, our aircraft, delays.

by CARL.P.HIRSCH＠sargentlundy.com

Speaking as a USian anarchist, I can say with a high level of confidence that the United States sucks the most. Bar none. The US is by far the most powerful corporate imperial force on the planet today, and as folks way back in this dead horse of a thread were saying, our government is very much beholden to various corporate interests. The last few months of the Bush II administration (i.e., repealing clean air regs, 86-ing workplace safety laws, etc.) must be a very explicit illustration to the rest of the world just how much corporations (and to a lesser extent the Religious Right) run the show . -carl hirsch holler defense committee midwest soyproduct autonomous zone "Russ Blakeman" <rhblake(a)bigfoot.com> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent by: cc: owner-classiccmp@clas Subject: RE: OT somewhat. China, our siccmp.org aircraft, delays. 04/11/01 09:47 AM Please respond to classiccmp And I can add (by experience) that Iceland sucks even more. > > > It seems to me that the US is singled out quite a bit as being > > >somehow bad, and offensive. > > > > You're right, we should pick on every country evenly, just to please > > the anarchists and libertarians. > > I'll start. Afghanistan sucks. > > -- > ----------------------------- personal page: > http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- > Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * > ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu > -- Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. -- Euripedes > ----------------

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Collection list (just for phun)

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:17:08 -0400 (edt) Bryan Pope <bpope(a)wordstock.com> writes: > > > > > > Lessee, a partial listing of the 'fleet': > > > > > > Commies: > > --------------------------- > > VIC (With 64k Video Pak) > What is a ------^^^^^^^^^? What does it do for your VIC-20? It is a product put out by DATA-20, an outfit that used to be in the L.A. area. It does three things: Firstly, it adds 64 k of *paged* ram to the VIC! It gives the VIC a 40 or 80-column mono display, and the VideoPAK also has firmware that will turn the VIC into a data terminal. It's a cool item, alas, it no longer works (only works in 40 column mode now). It cost big bucks in 1982 when I bought it (something like $300). It came with a word processing program, and a spreadsheet. My then-future wife used it in the lab were I worked for billing, letters, etc. It's the only one like it I've ever seen. The other ones I've seen were the 32k model. These guys also made an 80-column cart for the c-64 (along with a CP/M cart). Jeff ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

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Subject: Re: Collection list (just for phun)

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Here's my list ... Briefer than most, but not bad for only 1+ year... Televideo TS-803 Northstar Advantage 8/16 Zenith Z-120 Commodore 64, and 64C (with CP/M cartridge) Commodore 128 (dual 1571s, shared with the 64) Texas Instruments TI-99/4A w/ PEB (dual drives) Texas Instruments CC-40 Tandy 102 (w/ cassette recorder and acoustic coupler) ICOM Attache Apple IIc, w/ external 5.25" drive Memodyne M-80 Kaypro 4-84 VAXStation II/GPX A nice Multibus-based 8080 emulator (forget the manufacturer) National Semiconductor 19" rack mount Multibus system based on BLC 80-20/4 Various Multibus boards, card cages, and an Intel 310 chassis Various S-100 boards, motherboards, power supplies, etc. 7 Shugart 8" floppy drives (850s if I recall correctly) MANY 360KB 5.25" drives, various manufacturers Heathkit ET-3400 trainer Components up the wazoo (that's a technical term) -- CPUs, Memory, Support chips, etc... Several other SBCs, Many docs, manuals, software, etc. for Multibus and CP/M and S-100 machines I think that's it ... I'm moving at the end of May, so some of this may come up as free/low cost on this list, since I really need to focus in on a few specialties. With two small (1.5 years and 4.5 years) kids and a life :-), it's next to impossible even just to keep this small bit going... I'll let you all know... Rich B.

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Collection list (just for phun)

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Jim Battle wrote: >- - Steve Wozniak (mostly working, but sometimes needs power cycling) LOL. Nice work, Jim! Y'all can laugh at my collection, too, for different reasons: - Mac Plus (MacOS 6.0.8, 7.0, 7.0.1, ElfArmor, 16MHz upgrade sometimes works) - Mac SE30 (working, details hazy) - DEC Rainbow PC100A (MS-DOS 3.10b, CP/M 80-86, 8087 copro, 832k RAM) = AT&T UnixPC (2, working, details hazy) - NeXT 040 Cube (NS 3.3, OD, floppy, dreams of finding a Dimension in the tip) The VAX 4000 VLC is off-topic until next year, right? A lot of its chips say 1992... leaves 6 count 'em 6 legit entries. .... woo hoo, we're number last! Can I count my TI-59 if I rebuild the battery pack and clean its keyboard pads? - Mark

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Heath/Zenith stuff

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

I actually don't have any heath/zenith stuff, I was just trying to organize an excuse for a road trip to St. Louis. If I say I'm going after computers the rest of the family will decide to stay home, otherwise they will all want to come and visit/shop/eat. I'm just after computers. Mike mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu >What H8 stuff do you have? Are you intersted in parting with any of it? > >I have an h8 that I have no s/w, no schematics, no docs or anything else for. > >thanks. > >- -Bob > >Hi Mike, >Your in KC? I'm in Grandview and I have the software, full schematics etc >for the H8. > >Bill >elecdata1 > >"McFadden, Mike" wrote: > > > If there is enough interest I might make a trip from Kansas City to St. > > Louis to visit some friends and pick up the load. I bet I could take my > > wife's Ford Aerostar extended cab. > >

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by M.Tekeste＠Bradford.ac.uk

Can Any one help me please? i am trying to interface a bar code reader to PCI Bus via a 82C51 (UART), and i wrote a code to support my hardware design but the software it seem wrong. Here is the code: #include <conio.h> #include <stdio.h> #include <dos.h> /* Type Definitions */ typedef unsigned char UBYTE; /* Old habbit... */ /* Serial Port Definitions */ #define STATUS 0x308 /* Status Base Address */ #define CONTROL 0x300 /* Control Base Address */ #define TXREG 0x30C /* Transmit Base Address */ #define RXREG 0x304 /* Receive Base Address */ #define TRUE 1 /* Function Prototypes */ void InitUSART(void); /* Initialize USART */ void TxData(UBYTE); /* Transmit Data */ UBYTE RxData(void); /* Receive Data */ /* InitUSART() - Initialize USART to 153600, 8 Data Bits, No Parity, 1 Stop Bit */ void InitUSART(void) { outp(CONTROL, 0x40); // Reset UART outp(CONTROL, 0x4E); // Stop, no parity, 8-bit, %16 baud outp(CONTROL, 0x05); // UART now ready } /* TxData() - Send Data to Serial Port Entry: data = Data to transmit */ void TxData(UBYTE data) { UBYTE x; /* Check for Tx Buffer Empty */ do { x = inp(STATUS); x &= 0x01; } while(x == 0); outp(TXREG, data); /* Send Data */ } /* RxData() - Receive Data from the Serial Port Exit: data = Rx Data byte */ UBYTE RxData(void) { UBYTE x; UBYTE data = 0; while(TRUE) /* Check for Rx Data */ { x = inp(STATUS); x &= 0x02; if(x == 0x02) { data = inp(RXREG); /* Get Data */ break; } /* Optional. Aborts if keypress */ if(kbhit()) /* Abort if Keypress */ { getch(); printf("\n"); break; } } return(data); } void main(void) { InitUSART(); while(TRUE) putch(RxData()); }

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Documentary on ZDF

by optimus＠canit.se

Last night, around midnight, there was a documentary about the evolution of computer games on ZDF. Often incorrect, very much trying to prove how everything we use now is the apex of computer evolution, but also quite interesting. Among the most interesting pieces displayed was an East-german arcade game, called "Polyplay". Apparently, there is only one machine left, but the MAME project seems to be developing emulation support. The games really didn't seem like much fun, though.

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New 1802 (ELF) Emulator, Website

by dave＠ruske.net

I've been following this list for a little while, and compared to some folks I guess I'm not much of a collector. Honestly, I've never had to give any thought as to whether the joists in my house would support a computer! But a few weeks back I started cleaning my basement, and I came across some lovingly wrapped circuit boards and stacks of papers and newsletters dating back to my high school days. My old 1802-based Netronics ELF II and the ACE (Association of Computer Experimenters) 1802 system that followed it survived the years; they still run fine. It occurred to me that in the twenty-some years since I built those systems, I've seldom had more fun with a computer. Meanwhile I'd been looking for an excuse to learn a little about programming for the Palm OS, and a funny idea struck me. The result was TinyELF, an ELF emulator for Palm handhelds. Naturally, I thought if I released such a thing through PalmGear.com people would have questions, and a website would be a natural way to deal with them. So I threw together a website, http://www.cosmacelf.com My little idea taught me a bit about the Palm OS, but at this point I've put enough "spare" time and energy into this project to really appreciate my wife's patient good humor. That basement *still* isn't clean! Oh well, judging by the posts on this list, I know I don't have to give a lengthy explanation as to why I did this --- you guys get it. I'm posting to this list for two reasons. First, while I have some knowledge and literature on the original Popular Electronics ELF, the Netronics ELF II and the RCA VP-111, I know substantially less about RCA's VP 3301, the Quest Electronics (Super?) ELF, the DREAM 6800, the ETI-660 and the Comx 35... all 1802-based machines as I understand. If anyone could give me some accurate summary information of these machines and what made them unique, I'd be quite grateful. If you browse through the History section of cosmacelf.com you'll see that I'm looking for a more complete description of these 1802 micros. I'd also appreciate email if you notice that I've blown any details in my history or left out any links of merit. Second, I thought that perhaps someone on this list might be interested in playing with the TinyELF emulator itself. It's not nearly as lovely as Bill Richman's ray-traced gem for the desktop, but for the Palm platform I'm fairly happy with it. You can download the emulator for free at http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID=13929 Thanks, and enjoy! Dave Ruske dave(a)ruske.net

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OT somewhat. China, our aircraft, delays.

by blacklord＠telstra.com

----- Original Message ----- From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> Date: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 10:04 am Subject: Re: OT somewhat. China, our aircraft, delays. >> > Dude your are really mad, and need to cool off. It's not that big a > deal. Look at how many people are actually taking part in the > thread. > If people objected that much to it, I don't think they would be > activelyparticipating. > For some of us, it actually costs money to d/load this crud, for instance, where I am (rural remote in Oz for example) there are no local ISP's, my nearest is an STD call away & they charge $3.79 an hour for access, so I need to be in & out as quickly as possible. Ax aresult, I'm very picky about what I subscribe too. I did *not* subscribe to Classic Computers for this sort of patriotic nationalistic US rubbish that has developed in this particular thread. ---------------- Powered by telstra.com

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Henk Gooijen's PDP-11 prints online

by djg＠drs-esg.com

> From: healyzh(a)aracnet.com > Chris Kennedy wrote: > > Yesterday's post brought four CDs filled with TIFFs of PDP-11 > > (and related) prints. They're available at: > > > > http://www.mainecoon.com/classiccmp > > Wow!!! Does anyone know of software to read these on UNIX or easily convert > them to PDF files? > The software I use to make my tiff files available as PDF will convert them. ftp://ftp.pdp8.net/software/c42pdf/ See readme file in the directory for how to convert. Redhat 6.1 binary is provided in tar in src directory. If you are using the binary you shouldn't need the pdflib files. I haven't found any Unix tiff readers that handle multipage files well. David Gesswein http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Run an old computer with blinkenlights

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The NeXT's have been saved!!!

by amichael＠nortelnetworks.com

Great work, Curt. If there are any odd parts left over I still need a couple of internal hard drive brackets, 3 mice (non-ADB), and 2 mono monitor cables for the slabs I'm restoring. Regards, Arlen Michaels > -----Original Message----- > From: Curt Vendel [SMTP:curt@atari-history.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 2:16 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: The NeXT's have been saved!!! > > Hi Everyone, > > Just got back from Philly about 10 mins ago, the SUV is loaded to the > gills with Next Turbo slabs, some laser printers, monitors, keyboard, > mice, etc.... I have to sort through everything, and get everything > matched up and organized. <>

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New find: Headstart Explorer

by amichael＠nortelnetworks.com

Somewhere I've got a ram card that's labelled Headstart Explorer. It's got a plastic cover over it so it looks kind of like a memory cartridge. Do you see a slot where it would plug in? Let me know if you need it. Arlen Michaels > -----Original Message----- > From: bill claussen [SMTP:elecdata@kcinter.net] > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 12:22 AM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: New find: Headstart Explorer > > Evening! We used to be a service center for Vendex. I'll look around the > shop > tomorrow and see what info and programs I have for it and let the list > know. > > Bill Claussen > elecdata1 > > Chad Fernandez wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I used to know some people that owned one. They loved it, and used it > > up into the mid 90s. The mom really liked the gui, and sort of prided > > herself in owning such an old pre-win95 computer that had a gui. I > > guess I can agree with her on that part, but I thought the GUI was kind > > of dorky :-) > > > > As far as surplus stores not keeping stuff together goes.... I can't > > agree with you more. I am always finding stuff scattered at Goodwill. > > If someone doesn't buy something in the first few days, people rip it > > apart and scatter it! > > > > Chad Fernandez > > Michigan, USA > > > > Mark Gregory wrote: > > > > > > I came across a neat little PC/XT clone on the weekend, a Headstart > > > Explorer (made by Vendex according to some Web info I found). It's an > 8088, > > > with an unusual level of integration: mono/CGA video card, modem (300 > > > bps?), serial port, parallel port and external disk drive port all on > the > > > motherboard. There's an internal 720K 3.5" drive, and a bay for an MFM > > > drive. Comes in an unusual pseudo-portable case, where the hinged > keyboard > > > folds up and stores upside down on top of the case. There's a single > ISA > > > slot under a cover on top. Apparently, there was a monitor available > that > > > came with a custom stand that fit neatly over the desktop case. > > > > > > It has several features I've not seen before: the folding keyboard, a > > > mono/colour switch on the video output, and the PS/2 style mouse and > heavy > > > integration on a clone of this vintage. Also, as far as I could tell, > there > > > was no trace of the manufacturers name anywhere. I had to take the > system > > > to pieces to find the Headstart Explorer name on the PCB, and the name > > > Vendex wasn't on it anywhere. > > > > > > Does anybody have the custom version of DOS that came with this thing, > that > > > supposedly included a very annoying shell program, or any additional > info > > > about this beast? I didn't get any manuals or docs with it (why oh why > do > > > thrift stores never keep system components together?) > > > and the HD was missing. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Mark Gregory >

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EDO Dimms for older compaq equipment.

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

anyone here have need of said beasts, I have 3 EDO dimms from a compaq system, I think it was wither a 3000 or 5000 Ppro server that they came from.

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Collection list (just for phun)

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

Let's see... As far as complete systems About 10 or 12 games systems. Including Commodores, TI 99s, and Ataris. About 12 or 15 portables. Including several each Compaqs, Kaypros, Osbournes, and Panasonics. Several generic S100 crates Numerous STD bus systems with spares Misc Keithley and OPTO 22 controllers IBM /36 with 2 terminals and printer HP 3000/42 mini HP 3000/37 mini HP 9000/832 mini (2 of these) HP 9000/842S mini (space heater) 7 short racks of HPIB drives for above minis 2 HP 9 track tape drives 2 HP large HPIB drives with removable media (forgot nomenclature) 2 HP 85s and 3 other HP desktops (forgot nomenclature) 2 HP cabinets with HPIB tape/disk combos (forgot nomenclature) 72" rack with 8 PCs (486s and 586s). 10 or 12 HP, Televideo, and Link terminals. Numerous generic PCs Plus one bedroom and an entire garage FULL of incomplete systems and assorted "stuff". Steve PS: I'm pretty sure Joe has more than that just on his back porch! >Amiga 500 (several) >Amiga 2000A >Atari 520STM (several) >Atari 520STFM (several) >Atari 1040STFM (several) >Atari 520STE (upgraded to 4 MB) >Commodore 64 (several different models) >Commodore 128 >Commodore 128D (several) >Dragon 32 >Goldstar HC-200 MSX (broken) >Spectravideo 728 MSX >Sinclair ZX Spectrum >DECstation 5000/200 >Personal DECsystem 5000/25 (broken) >Atari 2600 (several, different models) >2600 clone, 32 built-in games >Mattel Intellivison 3 >Philips G7000 >SEGA Mastersystem >Nintendo NES =) >SEGA Megadrive >Pong "PC5" consoles (several, different models) > >I really think that's it. > >If anyone's interested in any trades or would like to bestow equipment >upon me, please mail. =) > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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Collection list (just for phun)

by cmurillo＠emtelsa.multi.net.co

Wow, I can't believe that I left off the Mac side of my collection in my previous message. -SE/30 -Classic -Classic II -IIci w. 40MHx 68040 accelerator -8100 I have several interesting NB boards, such as LAB-NB from Natl. Instruments w. Labview 2.11, Rasterops card, DT2255 capture card, and a few DSP development systems. -------------------------------------------------------------- Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org

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Collection list (just for phun)

by cmurillo＠emtelsa.multi.net.co

I am not sure if this got through; the pop connection died while sending it the first time. ---------------------------------------------------------- I'll give it a try; I think that this is all that remains after the "great sell off/giveaway of '2000", which I had to do in preparation to moving overseas; my collection was decimated. You'll notice that I tried to keep one of each thing that interested me. -Vaxstation 2000 (6MB, 53MB, no monitor, no OS yet; want more memory, HD and a better understanding of VMS so I can boot it off the Vaxstation 4000/60) -Vaxstation 4000/60 (24MB, 1GB, OpenVMS 7.2, GDM16, tkz50, rrd42) -vt340 -2 x Sparcstation IPX (64MB, 2GB, monitors, Solaris 2.7) -Sparcstation 5 (144MB, 9.1GB, turbogx, GDM16, Solaris 2.7) -HP9000/735 (240MB, 20GB FWSCSI, 21" A40xx?, HPUX 10.2) -HP9000/380 (64MB, 9.1GB scsi w. netbsd, and three 330MB HPIB w. HPUX) -Decstation 5000/133 (64MB I think, 3 x RZ58 w. netBSD) -HP85B w. 128K module, HPIB, GPIO, several ROMs -HP9121B -2 x HP9114B -HP9133 -4 x HP71B (these are more of a computer than a calculator). Got lots of stuff for these, including several each of 128K, 96K, 64K, 32 and 4K RAM modules; Forth/Assembler, Mathpac, Data acquisition, text editor, surveying, AC analysis, curve fitting, 32K EPROM, and other ROM modules; plus HP82161, HP82164, HP82165, HP82166C, HP82169, several HP82400, ...) -HP75C -HP75D w. 128K pod -FSI HPIL modem and bar code reader -HPIB and HPIL versions of 2225 inkjet printer -Several HP calcs including 41C, 41CV, 67, 48SX.... -166MHz Pentium wintel, 128MB, 24GB SCSI :-( . This machine. -Bunch of smaller clones (486DX2 66 and below), some w. Linux, others w. DOS for legacy stuff, such as my HP82321C viper cards, HP82335 HPIB cards, HP-IL cards and such. Mostly used for instrumentation. Many of them lack a case and are assembled on demand on top of a table :-) . And about 150 lb of mainboards, i/o cards, pwr supplies etc. I am sure that I'm forgetting stuff... Then there is the DSP and microcontroller side of my collection, plus my test gear. I won't list them, but I concentrate on the 68HC11, 68HC16, MCS96, 56000 and TMS320C25. Carlos. -------------------------------------------------------------- Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org

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