- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 10, 14:30, John Rollins wrote: > >Those would be DEC MMJ ports... > > What's an MMJ? It stands for Modified Modular Jack. DEC took a standard RJ12 plug and moved the position of the latch off to one side. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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OT: halfmast.jpg (non-political)

by lance＠costanzo.net

Like most of you, I sat around most of Tuesday watching/listening to the news, but mostly being unable to concentrate on work. I needed to do something, so I created a small graphic (I'm definitely not a graphic designer, but I got the proportions reasonably correct) of a US flag at half mast and will be using it on my web sites as a remembrance of today's tragedy. If you'd like to do the same: http://www.webhighrise.com/halfmast.jpg

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Administrivia - Billion Second Day

by lance＠costanzo.net

While IBM, HP, Dec, Intel, Microsoft, and a cast of thousands have been duking it out for the past 31-3/4 years, UNIX time() (ref: man 3 time) has been steadily plodding along and has quietly ticked past 1 billion seconds within the last day or so.

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ok, so no explosives

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

The NY police are now denying that the van had any explosives. Still, I can't sleep.

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Administrivia - Billion Second Day

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>So... what are the most outstanding examples of classic systems whose >timekeeping mechanisms have withstood the passage of time (including any >that would have if they were still running today)? Big Ben in London? :-p -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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A great loss, on topic...

by lance＠costanzo.net

That hits home. I had a some email exchanges with Tim a couple of years ago when I discovered his site and sorted through some of the disk images he had online. A great guy, and truly a great loss. At 09:42 PM 9/11/01 -0400, you wrote: >Today Tim Olmstead passed away from a battle with cancer. >A great loss. > >For those less familiar with his efforts for the classic computer >community the _Unofficial CP/M Web_ site is his effort. > >For me I lost a friend and someone that shared the love of a system >he could totally understand to the very hardware and bits that made >it run. > >Allison > > >

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OT: 767 specs

by rhblakeman＠kih.net

In case someone was curious - not sure which model of the 767 was used in each event. http://www.boeing.com/commercial/767family/index.html

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May be of interest for some - list of those alright in each area.

by rhblakeman＠kih.net

Prodigy has this posted for people to be listed as OK. Not sure how accurate it might be but it might help some people. http://okay.prodigy.net/

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Sridhar?

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 09/11/2001 14:25:22, you wrote: >I think he is in Florida with Dave Mcguire and Brian Hechinger rescuing some > >machines. > > Zach yes, they are due back today or tomorrow - hopefully tomorrow.

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3 (!) building next to WTC collapsed seconds ago - (was live on German TV)

by pricomu＠compuserve.de

To all of you over there: I can?t describe what I felt when having heard those bad news an seen the first pictures... Tears are in my and many German eyes feeling with everyone injured or the people who have lost relatives or friends... As my English is not very good I?m not going to try to say more. Words are missings for those feelings... Thomas (from Germany)

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World Trade crash...

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 9/11/2001 11:18:39 AM Central Daylight Time, DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu writes: > > >> >> Of course the intelligence community is busy evacuating their buildings so >> it can't be reached. How they're going to do their jobs is another >> mystery. >> >> >> > > You do know that they have a second HQ hidden in a mountain somewhere... > yea, my brother said mount weather's going to get used now...

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OT: World Trade crash...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

The second plane was confirmed to be a 767, not a 737... Please contact the Red Cross to donate blood... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Chad Fernandez [mailto:fernande@internet1.net] ! Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:00 AM ! To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ! Subject: Re: OT: World Trade crash... ! ! ! How big is a 737? I didn't think an airplane would do that much ! damage. The Empire State building has been hit before, by accident, ! although, it prpbably wasn't a direct hit. ! ! I see it on TV, However. I'm stunned, really. ! ! Chad Fernandez ! Michigan, USA ! ! David Woyciesjes wrote: ! > ! > I take it you all heard about the two 737s (?) hitting the ! world trade ! > buildings... ! > one was possibly a hijacked airliner... each hit a seperate tower, I ! > believe... ! > ! > --- David A Woyciesjes ! > --- C & IS Support Specialist ! > --- Yale University Press ! > --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu ! > --- (203) 432-0953 ! > --- ICQ # - 905818 !

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[alphant] Moderator note RE: Attacks

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Dan (the moderator) is right. All of our prayers go to all those involved and hurt... Let's keep the mailing lists on topic now. I'll keep updating this page as I can. http://pages.cthome.net/squeege/wtrade/updates.html Hit refresh every once in a while... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Dan Schwartz [mailto:Expresso@snip.net] ! Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:00 PM ! To: AlphaNT Mailing List ! Subject: [alphant] Moderator note ! ! ! ! OK, folks, we know what the main details are: One World ! Trade Center tower is ! completely gone, the other is at least half gone ! ! David Woiciesjes up at Yale University Press is ! maintaining a low-bandwidth ! text site with up-to-the-minute info: ! http://pages.cthome.net/squeege/wtrade/updates.html ! ! Let's use the lists for what it's for, OK? ! ! God Bless, ! Dan ! ! ! [DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] This is a posting from the ! AlphaNT Mailing List. To unsubscribe, forward this message ! (Including these lines) to: ! <unsub-AlphaNT(a)lyris.sunbelt-software.com>. List Charter and ! FAQ at: <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/alphant-list_charter.htm> !

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World Trade crash...

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Yuck, > I am already seeing mild racism from people that I run into on the > street, aimed towards people of middle eastern descent (hey look! theres a > terrorist, etc.), this is a tradgedy, and I am not looking forward to how > this country reacts. I encountered a woman with her head covered, as the Muslim women >from the Balkans wear... I smiled and nodded my head, an attempt at demonstrating that at least some Americans retain their civility during such trying times as these... -dq

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recent acquisitions for the House of VAX

by dittman＠dittman.net

> >I asked about PL/I not being included in the Hobbyist licensing program and > >was told that was because Compaq no longer owns PL/I. I guess APL isn't in > >the Hobbyist license set as that hasn't been a deliverable for a long time. > >Does anyone know when it was last included in the ConDist sets? If so I > >can look for it. I have several year's worth of ConDist CDs but have lost > >the paperwork that listed the included products. > > The first disk of every ConDist has the all paperwork on it as postscript > and text files. You can print it out again if you lose it :-) I believe the > '94 and '96 ConDists both have APL on them. Yes, but having someone point to the set saves me having to go through all my sets looking at the first CD. I'll check my '96 set. > >Of course a PAK generator solves the problem of missing PAKs quite nicely. > > Yes it does, however I am dearly afraid that with HP and Compaq doing the > dance that the lore of such things will be permanently lost at some point. > If Compaq would just say "screw it, the next time someone requests a > license give them a non-expiring one." my heart would rest easier... Do you mean you are worried the Hobbyist program will go away? -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Ethusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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Sridhar?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

This is from Sridhar... ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Absurdly Obtuse [mailto:vance@ikickass.org] ! Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:17 PM ! To: David Woyciesjes ! Cc: NetBSD/Vax Mail List (E-mail); NetBSD/Sparc Mail List (E-mail) ! Subject: RE: Sridhar? ! ! ! ! I worked for some years for 3DG in the World Trade Center. I ! left about a ! year ago to join IBM. I have lost friends and colleagues ! there, that I ! know, love, and respect. I lost my former secretary. ! Luckily the office ! hadn't started up operations for the day yet, so the majority ! of the staff ! wasn't there. My brother was in the World Trade Center a ! mere two hours ! before the attack. He was back in midtown at that time. He ! is fine. My ! cousin works at 112 Wall St., and he's also fine. I count my ! blessings. ! I pray for the souls of my absent friends. ! ! Peace... Sridhar ! ! On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, David Woyciesjes wrote: ! ! > ! -----Original Message----- ! > ! From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] ! > ! ! > ! Sridhar I believe worked in a financial capacity somewhere in ! > ! Manhattan. ! > ! I hope I'm wrong. Has anyone heard from him or know if he's OK? ! > ! ! > ! I realize it's probably impossible to get any sort of ! > ! communications in or ! > ! out of that part of the city right now. ! --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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World Trade crash...

by spedraja＠ono.com

Taliban Regime ambassador on Pakistan has said that they don't have any relation with this terrorist act. He told too that Bin Laden it's not implied in the attack. Yasir Arafat, in absolute shock state, has manifested its condenation of the attack and its solidarity with the american people. Hundreds of Palestinians are celebrating the attack in the streets of the Occupied Territories in Palestina/Israel. France are in National Emergency State. Spain has reunited its basic crisis cabinet, compound by the Security Minister, the Defense Minister and the Prime Minister Cabinet Minister. One political analyst here speaks about the impossible capacity of any Medium Orient organization about organize one thing like this. I appoint, by my side, that this matter is equal to the end of the movie "The Fight Club" of David Fincher. And has one strange smell to anti-globalization, appoints another analyst. That's what we know about the matter here in Spain. All my condolences to all the victims, sincerely. Like we know well in my country, ANY terrorism is ansolutely SHIT. Regards Sergio

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Sridhar?

by foo＠siconic.com

Sridhar I believe worked in a financial capacity somewhere in Manhattan. I hope I'm wrong. Has anyone heard from him or know if he's OK? I realize it's probably impossible to get any sort of communications in or out of that part of the city right now. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org

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by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! -----Original Message----- ! From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] ! ! Sridhar I believe worked in a financial capacity somewhere in ! Manhattan. ! I hope I'm wrong. Has anyone heard from him or know if he's OK? ! ! I realize it's probably impossible to get any sort of ! communications in or ! out of that part of the city right now. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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Vector 3/Teledisk

by mranalog＠home.com

"Bob Stek" <r.stek(a)snet.net> said: > If it provides motivation for one of you hardware types with nothing > better to do, I'd lend my support to requesting an add-in card which > could handle the 10 and 16 hole 5.25" disks and the 32 hole 8 inchers as > well (I have a lot of ProcTech Helios disks). I'm confused (which happens often). Isn't this one of the reasons we keep these old machines running. If I need to read a 10 sector N* disk, I setup a Horizon with a laptop as the terminal. And then using the N* monitor I load a group of blocks from the disk into memory and then dump that memory to the terminal with logging turned on. Dumping 32K at a time, it takes several dumps before I have the whole disk, but it's a whole lot easier then building a special controller. Just one lazy man's solution. --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward @ home in Poulsbo, WA Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://www.best.com/~dcoward/analog =========================================

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OT: World Trade crash...

by dittman＠dittman.net

> >Looks like it hit sideways on edge, taking out that side of the building. a > >B24 hit the ESB, not that much damage. > > Yeah I knew the ESB was hit quite some time ago, A B24 sounds right. I > imagine a B24 would be much smaller. The plane that hit the Empire State Building was a B-25, which is smaller than a B-24. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Ethusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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OT: World Trade crash...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

I do believe it is for the fire sprinkler system. But I'm sure someone else knows better... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Chad Fernandez [mailto:fernande@internet1.net] ! Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:42 PM ! To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ! Subject: Re: OT: World Trade crash... ! ! ! What do they have water tanks on top for? Is that a standard ! thing with ! sky scrapers? Is it for fire fighting, or is it just part of the ! running water system of the buildings? ! ! I'm from West Michigan and we don't have very many tall buildings. ! ! Chad Fernandez ! Michigan, USA ! ! Carlos Murillo wrote: ! ! > I think that the fire finished both towers. When the water ! tanks on top ! > of both towers spilled inside those superheated infernos, ! > the buildings collapsed. ! > ! > carlos. !

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Pin compatibility of 2716, 8316, 9218

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 11, 7:17, Paul Williams wrote: > Pete Turnbull wrote: > > I'd be interested to know which VT100 ROMs you have > > The standard VT100 ROMs are 031 (or 061), 032, 033, and 034, but > > there are lots of variants. > > 061, 032, 033, 034, exactly as the FMPS says. > > > I have images (and original ROMs) of 061, 032, 033, 034 but I'd > > like to get any others to add to the archive. > > They're not online, Pete! No, they're not, because they're copyrighted. But I'll make them available to you. Aside: there was a short discussion a while ago about DEC and copyright and copies and what DEC still sold. I can't remember the conclusion. What was the concensus? And does DEC still sell these ROMs? > I would like a copy of those, please, because > there is a guy on comp.sys.dec who is planning a VT100 front-end to Bob > Supnik's SIMH (thread called "Need VT100 Expert"). I would also like a > copy of the chargen ROM, 23018E2-00, if you've got it. On mine (which is actually a VT131) it's soldered directly to the board, and I'm disinclined to take it off at the moment. > Would you like a copy of the VT320 ROM? I've got that handy. Yes please :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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World Trade crash...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Of course the intelligence community is busy evacuating their buildings so it can't be reached. How they're going to do their jobs is another mystery. You do know that they have a second HQ hidden in a mountain somewhere... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu <mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu> --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

And Camp David, no structures hit, though. THey missed thier target.. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: LFessen106(a)aol.com [mailto:LFessen106@aol.com] ! Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:34 AM ! To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org ! Subject: Re: World Trade crash... ! ! ! In a message dated 9/11/01 10:19:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ! edick(a)idcomm.com writes: ! ! > Yes ... Dubya must have REALLY pissed someone off! Reports ! are that these ! > were ! > specific attacks, and that there was also an apparently ! intentional crash ! on ! > a ! > helipad near the Pentagon ... <sigh> You'd think they'd ! get closer than ! > that ! > ... ! > ! > Dick ! ! For those of you with friends and loved ones in these areas ! my heart and ! prayers are with you. At 10:40am here on the east coast ! there have been 4 ! attacks so far. The world trade center twice, the pentagon, ! and the state ! dept bldg in washington. ! ! -Linc Fessenden ! ! In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right... ! ! Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11. ! !

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World Trade crash...

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

any details on the plane crash south of PGH?

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World Trade crash...

by marino13＠btinternet.com

Yeah I agree wholeheartedly - just a tactless comment. I know everyone here in the UK will join me in sending our best wishes to everyone in the States both directly or indirectly involved. We're all absolutely stunned and sickened :( Shaun > In a message dated 9/11/2001 9:19:47 AM Central Daylight Time, > edick(a)idcomm.com writes: > > > > Yes ... Dubya must have REALLY pissed someone off! Reports are that these > > were > > specific attacks, and that there was also an apparently intentional crash > > on a > > helipad near the Pentagon ... <sigh> You'd think they'd get closer than > > that > > ... > > > > Dick > > > > oh yea, that's a really nice thing to say....

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OT: world trade updates...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Refresh this page, I add news as I get it... http://pages.cthome.net/squeege/wtrade/updates.html My main sources are my local radio, 99.1 WPLR (New Haven CT, clasic rock, www.wplr.com), who is reading the AP wire and monitoring CNN, ABC, MSNBC, and other big networks... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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OT: world trade updates...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

A page, I'll update as I can... http://pages.cthome.net/squeege/wtrade/updates.html a news page copied from cnn.com http://pages.cthome.net/squeege/wtrade/wt.html --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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by cmurillo＠emtelsa.multi.net.co

That was shot down by the USAF before it reached its target. I think that the Pennsylvania one was also shot down. At 11:27 AM 9/11/01 -0400, you wrote: >And Camp David, no structures hit, though. THey missed thier target.. > >--- David A Woyciesjes >--- C & IS Support Specialist >--- Yale University Press >--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu >--- (203) 432-0953 >--- ICQ # - 905818 -------------------------------------------------------------- Carlos E. Murillo-Sanchez carlos_murillo(a)nospammers.ieee.org

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by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 9/11/2001 9:19:47 AM Central Daylight Time, edick(a)idcomm.com writes: > Yes ... Dubya must have REALLY pissed someone off! Reports are that these > were > specific attacks, and that there was also an apparently intentional crash > on a > helipad near the Pentagon ... <sigh> You'd think they'd get closer than > that > ... > > Dick > oh yea, that's a really nice thing to say....

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[mac-nt] Re: OT: World Trade crash updates...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Both towers down now!! --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: stb [mailto:stb@scides.canberra.edu.au] ! Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:30 AM ! To: Mac-NT Mailing List ! Subject: [mac-nt] Re: OT: World Trade crash updates... ! ! ! Absolutely incredible. ! ! any list members involved ? ! ! Jees 2nd tower just collapsed..... ! ! ! Stef ! ! ! [DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] This is a posting from the ! Mac-NT Mailing List. To unsubscribe, forward this message ! (Including these lines) to ! <unsub-mac-nt(a)lyris.sunbelt-software.com>. List Charter and ! FAQ at: ! http://www.sunbelt-software.com/mac-nt-list_charter.htm <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/mac-nt-list_charter.htm>

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World Trade crash...

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Pentagon too... what's next? > -----Original Message----- > From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:23 AM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org (E-mail) > Subject: OT: World Trade crash... > Importance: High > > > I take it you all heard about the two 737s (?) hitting the world trade > buildings... > one was possibly a hijacked airliner... each hit a seperate tower, I > believe... > > --- David A Woyciesjes > --- C & IS Support Specialist > --- Yale University Press > --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu > --- (203) 432-0953 > --- ICQ # - 905818 >

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Scanning (was Re: recent acquisitions for the House of VAX

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

Jim Battle wrote: > At 02:16 PM 9/10/01 -0700, you wrote: > excess. The KA655 TM > >that is on the DFWCUG site appears from the PDF to be 100 > DPI/8 bit (note > >that's 800 bits per inch net and the result is harder to I don't know where 100dpi/8-bit came from - its 600dpi/1-bit (apart from maybe one or two pages which are 600dpi/8-bit). I don't know how to persuade Acrobat to tell me what the underlying resolution is, but I expect it's possible! > I agree that 300 dpi @ 1bpp is superior for text and line art > than 100 dpi > @ 8bpp, but I think your math is askew. You need to compare > the # of bits > per sq in, not inch. So 100 dpi @ 8bpp is 10KB/in^2, while > 300 dpi @ 1bpp > is 11.25 KB/in^2. For text and line art, though, the 1bpp image will > compress a lot better. I make 600dpi/1-bit to be a smidgen under 44KB/sq-in. This is an A4 scan (of a photocopy of an original which is less than A4 in all dimensions IIRC) so thats 8.5x11.5in i.e. anything less than ~4MB/page is compression kicking in! I think the pages average something like 300KB/page. I get PDF direct from the scanner but I don't think it does G4 compression. If anyone has a tool which will take in a PDF and spit out a G4-compressed PDF, I'd be very interested. I think I've seen people claim that 300dpi/1-bit scans run at about 60KB/page so I assume that G4 compression would bring these documents down to about 250KB/page (15-20% smaller). Of course, "perfect" OCR would knock it down a good deal more than that! Antonio > > And if, for some reason, you want to scan line art and text > in gray scale, > 4bpp is plenty enough. Use 8bpp only for continuous-tone images. Possibly true (although almost every page that I use 8-bit for does have a photo of some gubbin or other). But the scanner spits out 1-bit or 8-bit and there are not that many knobs available for tweaking. Antonio

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by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

Jim Tuck wrote: > To convert to PDF, I normally use ABBYY FineReader 5.0, a > very nice bit of OCR software. It preserves layout well, does > near-font conversion of readables, and includes images of > whatever is questionable. >From my pov, the most interesting question is how close to 100% correct conversion does it manage to do? Give an A4 (or US Letter) page full of text, how many errors (i.e. incorrect letter or punctuation mark) would you expect to see after proof-reading manually? (Questionable usages where the character is inserted as an image don't really count since there is no "loss" of information ... they don't help reduce the size either though). Does it take PDF wrapped around TIFF as an input? Antonio

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Scanning (was Re: recent acquisitions for the House of VAX

by technos＠nerdland.org

For me, it's usually Kofax Imagecontrols for capture, destripe, deskew, and char rebuild. (I happen to have a nice Fujitsu high- speed document scanner with Kofax accelerator). I have used Photoshop and a series of filters to do the same thing, albeit slower. Gimp works just as well as PS. Photoshop on Macs, Kofax on NT, and Gimp on *nix. To convert to PDF, I normally use ABBYY FineReader 5.0, a very nice bit of OCR software. It preserves layout well, does near-font conversion of readables, and includes images of whatever is questionable. I have also used tif2ps and ps2pdf on *nix, operating on the source tiff. This is usually best if I want near-perfect PDFs >from the source images. I'll be honest; I don't have that much demand for PDF. Most of my work product is either plain ASCII text or multipage TIFF. I'll do an odd PDF once every few months for Marketing, that's it. Other people could comment much better on PDF conversion. Jim On Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:21 AM, Bruce Ray [SMTP:bkr@WildHareComputers.com] wrote: > Jim > > ...so what tools do you find adequate/appropriate for scanning > manuals, > "cleaning" them up, and converting to Adobe .pdf format... and on > what > platform(s).. > > Bruce

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Pin compatibility of 2716, 8316, 9218

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 10, 23:26, Paul Williams wrote: > I'm looking at dumping the ROMs from a VT100 board, but I'm having > trouble finding pinouts of the ROMs. > > The VT100 FMPS says that locations E40, E45, E52 and E56 on the basic > board are 8316E 2Kx8 ROMs. However, the schematics don't show the > designations for all 24 pins. The online Chip Directory doesn't contain > the pinout for the 8316 either. > > My PROM Programmer will handle 2716 EPROMs, which the Chip Dir. does > contain a pinout for, and looks compatible with the 8316. I'd be tempted > to try dumping one of them, were it not for the fact that E45 on my > board is actually labelled "AM9218CPC", the pinout for which is also > absent from the Chip Dir. > > Could anyone please tell me definitively whether the 8316, 9218 and 2716 > are pin-compatible? Nearly, providing you're referring to the 5-volt-only 2716. The polarity of the chip selects is mask-programmable on the 8316. I don't know which way DEC used for the VT100, but the way they usually did it was CS1 and CS2 (pins 18 and 20) active-low with CS3 active high (pin 21, Vpp on a 2716, which is usually at +5V for reading). The alternative is CS1, CS2, and CS3 all active-low. So if you are reading DEC 8316's on a programmer, set it for 2716, and if it reads as if empty, bend out pin 21 and ground it. I'd be interested to know which VT100 ROMs you have, since I collect such things. The number that matters is something like 23-031E2 (23- means ROM, 031 is the code number, and E2 means 16K bit). The standard VT100 ROMs are 031 (or 061), 032, 033, and 034, but there are lots of variants. I have images (and original ROMs) of 061, 032, 033, 034 but I'd like to get any others to add to the archive. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Scanning (was Re: recent acquisitions for the House of VAX

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

Chuck McManis wrote: > This topic has gone over the list a few times, from > experience, the "best" > scans are 600 DPI black and white compressed into PDF files. No problem here. > The KA655 TM that is on the DFWCUG > site appears from the PDF to be 100 > DPI/8 bit (note > that's 800 bits per inch net and the result is harder to > read) The KA655 TM was done at 600dpi ... the source, however, was a none-too-good photocopy. Remember that Acrobat will display however you tell it to and fit-to-page on a 17" monitor looks quite different to the same on a 19" or 21" monitor. Try fit-to-width and see if that helps. > scanning this manual to my list. They don't appear to have > come up with a > 'standard' for their scans. That would help too. I suspect that if they mandated a standard then they might put off people who might otherwise contribute (and I still say that any scan is always better than no scan!). The scans just need to be good enough to be able to be OCRd perfectly 10 years from now (once someone gets around to writing OCR software that works almost perfectly rather than the current crop which seems to fail most of the time). Antonio

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Scanning (was Re: recent acquisitions for the House of VAX

by technos＠nerdland.org

I work in digital imaging for part of my living, and do work for a number of archival projects as well. 600dpi@1bpp is insane. 300dpi is usually fine, if there is a prob increase the image depth. Jim On Monday, September 10, 2001 5:17 PM, Chuck McManis [SMTP:cmcmanis@netapp.com] wrote: > > > This topic has gone over the list a few times, from experience, the > "best" > scans are 600 DPI black and white compressed into PDF files. This > achieves > exactly what is needed, get the data without a lot of excess. The > KA655 TM > that is on the DFWCUG site appears from the PDF to be 100 DPI/8 bit > (note > that's 800 bits per inch net and the result is harder to read) I'll > add > scanning this manual to my list. They don't appear to have come up > with a > 'standard' for their scans. That would help too. > > --Chuck >

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Apple ][ disk controller state machine

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Thanks, dq. I have seen that doc, but it speaks mainly of the > 3.5 drive, which had several enhancements not available on the > 5.25 drive. Was the Apple ][ controller sufficiently similar to > the IIgs and progeny that this documentation is appropriate for > it also? I've never heard the Apple ][ controller chip referred > to as 'IWM' -- is that my ignorance, or was the chip renamed, or > are they (maybe slightly) different beasts? It's my understanding that the single-chip Integrated WOZ Machine replaced and duplicated the function of the discrete-component-based equivalent on the Apple II family... FWIW, the Lisa 1 and the very first non-production Macs used a strange 5.25 inch floppy known as the Twiggy Drive... I can show you photos of Macs that had been retrofitted for the 3.5 inch drives, but those drives are visible through huge 5.25 inch gaping holes... So while I can't say with certainty, I doubt the original circuit has any capability not duplicated in the IWM chips. Regards, -dq

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IEEE-488 interface and Commodore Pet

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Sorry but your wrong. Here in the USA IEEE-488/GPIB cards are considered industrial interfaces and command premium prices. I bought one for a control system and paid $399US!! That was for a cheaper non-dma slow GPIB. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Louis Schulman <louiss(a)gate.net> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:13 PM Subject: Re: IEEE-488 interface and Commodore Pet >On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 19:55:38 +0100 (BST), Tony Duell wrote: > >#> > I don't know if the Brain Box supplied software only works >#> > with their card or any card. >#> >#> The card claims to be compatible with the IBM IEEE card, ># >#Which IBM IEEE card? There are at least 2, and they are totally >#different. I was given an IBM IEEE488 card which uses a pair of 9914 >#chips (one for data transfer, one to send commands, I think). The one in >#the O&A Techref is based round a NEC 7210 chip. > >The information I received from Brain Boxes is that their card uses the NEC 7210 chip. They still have some >of these cards in stock, although they are no longer in production. They sent me a very helpful e-mail. The >only problem is that they want 320 pounds for one card. > >Well, I don't know what things cost in Britain, but out-of-production DOS-based ISA cards generally don't >sell for US $540. Usually, it is more like US $5, maybe new US $50. So, I don't think I will be doing any >business with Brain Boxes. > >Louis >

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recent acquisitions for the House of VAX

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Chuck McManis wrote: > > something up for me. Where exactly has the DFWCUG ever indicated that scans >sent to them will be made available to others? If you go to their home page ><http://www.dfwcug.org> there is no mention of it, there are no links to >any scans in their "resources" section, there is nothing at all to indicate >such things will ever become available. I'm guessing you never read John Wisniewski's post in one (or more) DECnotes conferences on the Easynet where he announced the project - several years ago now! I've sent them about 6 CDs worth of stuff (like the uVAX 2K Tech manual and the KA655 tech manual and the TU58 user guide that appeared over the weekend) so it certainly looks to me as though if you send them scans, they'll make them available. A goodly chunk of the stuff has never been through my hands so either others are sending ready made scans (which they have asked for) or they have scanned manuals themselves which others have sent to them (one of the status messages indicated that they have 500lbs of docs waiting to be scanned). AFAIK they had Digital's blessing to do this (John was openly soliciting information within Digital). Don't take my word for it - scan that 11/730 docset and see if it appears or not - the 11/780 one seems to have made it! >Actually a much better link is this one: ><http://208.190.133.201/decimages/moremanuals.htm> OK - I see the problem now. I pointed Bill at a bunch of places when he announced decdocs.org - it's a nice easy URL and I can remember it without having to search (or organise!) my bookmarks. From there you hit the DFWCUG link and end up at http://montagar.com/~patj/dec/hcps.htm . If you go via the DFWCUG site at http://www.dfwcug.org/, hit the Cheshire cat link near the bottom. I cannot find their "mission statement" anywhere there (I'm sure it used to be there!) but a quick search turns up an update: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Patrick+Jankowiak&hl=en&safe=off&rnum=48&s elm=3A6AA429.5241E8F5%40worldnet.att.net >However, someone decided to scan some of the manuals as low resolution 8 >bit grey scale (what a waste of someone's scanning time!) Maybe, I usually resort to greyscale for pages with photographs or fine detail that B&W seems to miss. Greyscale is better than nothing ! Antonio

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Administrivia - Billion Second Day

by cmcmanis＠netapp.com

In california that was : orbit% ./bday Time to roll is Sat Sep 8 18:46:40 2001 orbit% cat bday.c #include <stdio.h> #include <stdlib.h> #include <sys/time.h> int main(int argc, char *argv[]) { unsigned long now; now = 1000000000L; printf("Time to roll is %s\n", ctime(&now)); exit(0); } orbit% At 02:36 PM 9/10/01, you wrote: >While IBM, HP, Dec, Intel, Microsoft, and a cast of thousands have >been duking it out for the past 31-3/4 years, UNIX time() (ref: man 3 time) >has been steadily plodding along and has quietly ticked past 1 billion seconds >within the last day or so.

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Pin compatibility of 2716, 8316, 9218

by celigne＠tinyworld.co.uk

I'm looking at dumping the ROMs from a VT100 board, but I'm having trouble finding pinouts of the ROMs. The VT100 FMPS says that locations E40, E45, E52 and E56 on the basic board are 8316E 2Kx8 ROMs. However, the schematics don't show the designations for all 24 pins. The online Chip Directory doesn't contain the pinout for the 8316 either. My PROM Programmer will handle 2716 EPROMs, which the Chip Dir. does contain a pinout for, and looks compatible with the 8316. I'd be tempted to try dumping one of them, were it not for the fact that E45 on my board is actually labelled "AM9218CPC", the pinout for which is also absent from the Chip Dir. Could anyone please tell me definitively whether the 8316, 9218 and 2716 are pin-compatible? Cheers, Paul

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Vector 3/Teledisk

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Doing it for N* and any other IE: multiple hard sector formats would be a challenge as the structure of the data differed greatly and also the timing. Also most of the hard sector controllers were uniquely dumb. By that I mean they depended on the CPU (even the lowly 8080) to do a great amount of the work. for example stepping the head in or out was usually done by setting a direction bit and timing out a step pulse(s) as needed. Sector read and write were assisted at the byte level with a usually simple FM/MFM/M2FM encode decode and a shift register plus a simple sync recognizer. Of course all of them went about it differently with variations abounding. Me I'd do a ISA to S100 adaptor and write code... ah foo it's easier to use a real ns* and far more productive. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Bob Stek <r.stek(a)snet.net> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, September 10, 2001 1:49 PM Subject: Re: Vector 3/Teledisk >FWIW, I did once correspond with the Catweasel guy and he said it would >do N* 10-hole hard-sectored disks, but he had never had a request or >seen a N* disk. I was supposed to send him some samples but never got a >round tuit. > >And don't forget, it has already been done - the Microsolutions >MatchPoint card allows your PC to read N* disks. Of course, just try to >find one! > >If it provides motivation for one of you hardware types with nothing >better to do, I'd lend my support to requesting an add-in card which >could handle the 10 and 16 hole 5.25" disks and the 32 hole 8 inchers as >well (I have a lot of ProcTech Helios disks). > >Bob Stek >Saver of Lost Sols > > >

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DOS 1.0 copyright string

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

The are several strings embedded in the dos bot in command.com and IBMdos. The bios was uniquely IBM and not a copy. Also there are embedded characters in the code like: code.... move a,h ret DB "D" modecode... push D RET DB "R" and so on, it's spread out a bit. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Cini, Richard <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com> To: ClassCompList (E-mail) <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:18 AM Subject: DOS 1.0 copyright string >Hello, all: > > I was able to get my hands on the two DOS 1.0 disks. So, I spent a >few minutes with Sourcer and a good hex editor in search of the DR copyright >notice. I didn't find it. > > Maybe I misunderstood the timing of the message, but I thought that >the 1.0 version of DOS contained copyright information from Digital Research >and when IBM found out, they compelled MS to expunge it, resulting in the >1.1 version. > > The file dates are as follows: > >c:\>dir a: > Volume in drive A is 3COM53_D1 > Volume Serial Number is 11DC-3A5E > > Directory of A:\ > >07/23/81 12:00a 1,920 IBMBIO.COM *** >08/04/81 12:00a 3,231 COMMAND.COM *** >08/13/81 12:00a 6,400 IBMDOS.COM *** >09/10/01 09:28a 66,235 COMMAND.LST >09/10/01 09:27a 4,374 IBMBIO.SDF >09/10/01 09:28a 143,874 IBMDOS.LST >09/10/01 09:28a 16,231 IBMDOS.SDF >09/10/01 09:27a 25,780 IBMBIO.LST >09/10/01 09:28a 10,141 COMMAND.SDF > 9 File(s) 278,186 bytes > 1,177,088 bytes free > > The files are all dated before the PC's release. I find it >interesting that the file date for DOS proper was one week before the PC >announcement. Microsoft tweaking until the last minute. > > IBMBIO contains only a revision mark and no copyright notice. IBMDOS >contains a header common to all versions of DOS ("M;S<>=~KRAA") and no >copyright notice. COMMAND contains a copyright message which is the one >probably displayed upon execution: > > The IBM Personal Computer DOS > Version 1.00 > (C)Copyright IBM Corp 1981 > Licensed Material - Program Property of IBM > > So, where did I go wrong?? > >Rich > > >========================== >Richard A. Cini, Jr. >Congress Financial Corporation >1133 Avenue of the Americas >30th Floor >New York, NY 10036 >(212) 545-4402 >(212) 840-6259 (facsimile) >

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Scanning (was Re: recent acquisitions for the House of VAX

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> This topic has gone over the list a few times, from experience, the "best" > scans are 600 DPI black and white compressed into PDF files. This achieves > exactly what is needed, get the data without a lot of excess. The KA655 TM I know in my case the max I can manage is 300dpi optical, but that will produce a usable document as long as it doesn't include circuit diagrams. Zane

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Scanning (was Re: recent acquisitions for the House of VAX

by cmcmanis＠netapp.com

This topic has gone over the list a few times, from experience, the "best" scans are 600 DPI black and white compressed into PDF files. This achieves exactly what is needed, get the data without a lot of excess. The KA655 TM that is on the DFWCUG site appears from the PDF to be 100 DPI/8 bit (note that's 800 bits per inch net and the result is harder to read) I'll add scanning this manual to my list. They don't appear to have come up with a 'standard' for their scans. That would help too. --Chuck At 01:01 PM 9/10/01, you wrote: > > However, someone decided to scan some of the manuals as low > > resolution 8 bit grey scale (what a waste of someone's scanning time!) > >Do you mean low or high resolution? There's no need for 48 or even 16 >bit for anything not continuous tone. I got three manuals from DFWCUG >and am very happy with the quality. Perhaps they could look into more >efficient compression, though. > >John A.

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VAX 11/780 documentation requested

by msell＠ontimesupport.com

Hey guys, (and gals) Help! : ) I'm trying to find documentation to help get my 11/780 fully operational. The PDP-11/03 starts the internal self-test, but fails right before actually reading the 8" floppy. There was a diagnostic guide on E-Bay that I really wanted, and bid a pretty decent amount on, but it seems someone else needed that document more than I did. Oh well...... If anyone has spare or unused documentation for the VAX 11/780, please let me know. This is needed to get my 780 back to operation. If you want links to a site showing my 780 for proof that I indeed have one, let me know. I realize that some don't want to give up stuff to those who will just turn around and E-Bay it. - Matthew Sell Matthew Sell Programmer On Time Support, Inc. www.ontimesupport.com (281) 296-6066 Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST! http://www.ontimesupport.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...

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HP 3000 (Micro 3000) free in New Jersey

by sieler＠allegro.com

Hi, Is anyone is interested in a free, working Micro 3000 XE (desktop size Classic HP 3000), complete with disks, tape drive ... and is willing to pick it up (or pay to have it picked up), please contact me soon. Disk drives: HP 7958, and HP 7936. Tape drive: HP 35401 (9144 cartridge tape auto changer) MPE Version is V-Delta 5. It's in Lebanon, New Jersey, off of Route 78. thanks, Stan (cc: Gunther, who knows someone driving to New Jersey soon :) Stan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.html www.allegro.com/sieler

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VMS Licenses (was Re: recent acquisitions for the House of VA X

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Chuck McManis wrote: > >Something to note is that the VMS licenses from the Hobbyist program will >work on VMS 5.x and beyond, they will _not_ work on VMS 4.x (the LMF >changed significantly between 4.x and 5.x). However, since most "classic" The most significant change being that it sprang into existence with V5.0 :-) Before that VAX/VMS, DECnet and Clustering (and some other SIPs I forget) were enabled or enhanced using patches. I *think* that these patches were being collected in order to be made available on some future Freeware CD but I may be wrong about that. Antonio

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VAX 11/780 documentation requested

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Matthew Sell wrote: > >I'm trying to find documentation to help get my 11/780 fully operational. As of last weekend you'll find a set of six technical manuals over at: http://208.190.133.201/decimages/moremanuals.htm They're all technical manuals rather than user guides and maintenance guides but that's all I was sent. The HW user guide may well be on its way sometime ... if it turns up I'll scan it and let you know. I've seen people on this list state before now that they have the printsets so maybe they'll appear one day. >There was a diagnostic guide on E-Bay that I really wanted, and bid a >pretty decent amount on, but it seems someone else needed that document >more than I did. Oh well...... Eighty odd dollars! You could try the seller to see if it was a duplicate and/or you could try the buyer to see if he can either help out or scan it for you. >me know. This is needed to get my 780 back to operation. If you want links >to a site showing my 780 for proof that I indeed have one, let me know. I Links would be nice anyway ... I for one would like to see a VAX-11/780 again! Antonio

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Introductory Electronics Book?

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote: > >The book you _must_ get is 'The Art of Electronics' by Paul Horowitz and >Winfield Hill. Seconded and thirded :-) I also like A Practical Introduction to Electronic Circuits by Martin Hartley Jones. Electronics for Engineers by Ahmed and Spreadbury is quite good too. Antonio

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DOS 1.0 copyright string

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: I was able to get my hands on the two DOS 1.0 disks. So, I spent a few minutes with Sourcer and a good hex editor in search of the DR copyright notice. I didn't find it. Maybe I misunderstood the timing of the message, but I thought that the 1.0 version of DOS contained copyright information from Digital Research and when IBM found out, they compelled MS to expunge it, resulting in the 1.1 version. The file dates are as follows: c:\>dir a: Volume in drive A is 3COM53_D1 Volume Serial Number is 11DC-3A5E Directory of A:\ 07/23/81 12:00a 1,920 IBMBIO.COM *** 08/04/81 12:00a 3,231 COMMAND.COM *** 08/13/81 12:00a 6,400 IBMDOS.COM *** 09/10/01 09:28a 66,235 COMMAND.LST 09/10/01 09:27a 4,374 IBMBIO.SDF 09/10/01 09:28a 143,874 IBMDOS.LST 09/10/01 09:28a 16,231 IBMDOS.SDF 09/10/01 09:27a 25,780 IBMBIO.LST 09/10/01 09:28a 10,141 COMMAND.SDF 9 File(s) 278,186 bytes 1,177,088 bytes free The files are all dated before the PC's release. I find it interesting that the file date for DOS proper was one week before the PC announcement. Microsoft tweaking until the last minute. IBMBIO contains only a revision mark and no copyright notice. IBMDOS contains a header common to all versions of DOS ("M;S<>=~KRAA") and no copyright notice. COMMAND contains a copyright message which is the one probably displayed upon execution: The IBM Personal Computer DOS Version 1.00 (C)Copyright IBM Corp 1981 Licensed Material - Program Property of IBM So, where did I go wrong?? Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile)

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Introductory Electronics Book?

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

I'd like to get some recommendations from the list for a good introductory electronics book for my 14 year-old son. He's interested in building an intercom system (and other circuits) that he got off the Web, and I would like something for him to read that will give him a good understanding of how the circuit works. (For example, it uses the primary windings of a 120V:12V transformer as a coil.) TIA.

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Vector 3/Teledisk

by r.stek＠snet.net

FWIW, I did once correspond with the Catweasel guy and he said it would do N* 10-hole hard-sectored disks, but he had never had a request or seen a N* disk. I was supposed to send him some samples but never got a round tuit. And don't forget, it has already been done - the Microsolutions MatchPoint card allows your PC to read N* disks. Of course, just try to find one! If it provides motivation for one of you hardware types with nothing better to do, I'd lend my support to requesting an add-in card which could handle the 10 and 16 hole 5.25" disks and the 32 hole 8 inchers as well (I have a lot of ProcTech Helios disks). Bob Stek Saver of Lost Sols

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VMS Licenses (was Re: recent acquisitions for the House of VAX

by dittman＠dittman.net

> >>Hello- > >>I have been pursuuing the OpenVMS license and media for > >>about 6 months with no success. > >>i.e. > >>http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/freeware/ > >>http://www.montagar.com/dfwlug/openvms-faq.html > >>I have an AlphaStation 200/233 that I would like to install > >>OpenVMS to. > >>Do you have any ideas on how I get a copy through legal > >>or hobbiest channels? > > > Something to note is that the VMS licenses from the Hobbyist program will > work on VMS 5.x and beyond, they will _not_ work on VMS 4.x (the LMF > changed significantly between 4.x and 5.x). However, since most "classic" > folks will want to use VMS 5.5x (all MicroVAXen before the 4000 series) or > 6.x (includes the 4000s) that should be fine. Also the older ConDists sell > for reasonable amounts on Ebay. Further, there is nothing particularly > "special" about the ConDist and they can be copied using a modern CD burner > on a PC using an image copy and work just fine (this was how I got my first > ConDist) LMF was introduced with VMS 5.0. Before that the licenses were actuall patch files. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Ethusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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Recent finds

by optimus＠canit.se

It's been a wet week in Stockholm, but nevertheless, thanks to the waste management of the technical university, we've managed to scrounge together some interesting pieces. A lot of HP things, mainly HIL mice and keyboards, much to my joy, since I can now use my 9000/380. But what does a HIL ID module do? We also found a more or less complete 9000/425 system (no hard drives, but a monitor and two tape drives which were buried too deep for us to get at). Then we found an Apple II clone by Copam, which I've previously thought was just a soul-less PC clone manufacturer. Now it turns out that they were once a soul-less Apple clone manufacturer as well. =) The unit is called the Base-64A, which sounds supiciously like a MIME encoding, and it's got a floppy drive, too. The Base-64 was perched atop some old cabinet with a lot of rain in it and warning labels about the Winchester drive, which is a hulking full-height fourteen-inch unit. I found a card outside the cabinet which looked like a full- height QBus card. It's got two AMD 2901s, which is a bit-slice processor. Another (half-height) card was left inside the cabinet, it, too, featuring a pair of 2901s. Because we were already loaded, and because of the rain and the size of the thing, we decided to leave it behind, but I took the card I'd found with me for further identification. The card and the cabinet are made by Plessey Peripheral Systems, and my quick research indicates that this is some PDP-11 (or should it be an LSI-11?) clone. Will those two cards we found really suffice for a functioning system? Four 2901s should only add up to four bits according to my calculations... There was a lot of old terminals there as well, but I've got enough of those already. It was rather interesting to see an old Tandberg terminal of ours, though, only branded with the Norsk Data label andfeaturing an orange colour scheme instead of Tandberg's brown/beige. I suppose it's been hooked up to some Nord mini once upon a time. -- En ligne avec Thor 2.6a. "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive music." David McMinn

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Any Tektronix 4051, 5042, 4054, or 4662s or IBM 5100s out the re?

by monty.mcgraw＠rlxtechnologies.com

I was successful in finding not only a 4052 with 4662 multipen plotter and 4631 hard copy unit (lots of internet searching) - but also a 4054 on EBAY! I got the 4052 working after repairing the tape drive board and cleaning the tape heads. The 4631 needed new paper and one of the toothed belts - got both and it works fine. The 4054 repair consisted of replacing one of the 16k bit DRAMs! I have also added two Tektronix 4041 GPIB controllers with one line LED displays and built in thermal printers. I now have quite a collection of 4050 and 4041 series tapes - some with my old programs from the late 70's in the USAF, some including the Tek System Tapes and some game tapes, also some of the 4052 cartridges. Sorry, at this point I'm interested in keeping my collection. Contact me direct if you are interested in any tapes, though. Monty McGraw Spring, TX (near Houston)

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HP 3000 (Micro 3000) free in New Jersey

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 9/10/01 2:02:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sieler(a)allegro.com writes: > Hi, > > Is anyone is interested in a free, > working Micro 3000 XE (desktop size Classic > HP 3000), complete with disks, tape drive > ... and is willing to pick it up (or pay to have it picked up), > please contact me soon. > > Disk drives: HP 7958, and HP 7936. > Tape drive: HP 35401 (9144 cartridge tape auto changer) > MPE Version is V-Delta 5. > > It's in Lebanon, New Jersey, off of Route 78. > > thanks, > > Stan I would be interested possibly. I dont know a thing about them though. I live right off of 78 in Easton PA. -Linc Fessenden In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right... Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.

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Guide to Collecting Computers - on-line edition.

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On September 5, Absurdly Obtuse wrote: > > In 1998 the book, A Guide to Collecting Computers and Computer Collectibles: > > History, Technique, and Practice was published. An abridged edition is now > > available at: www.unusual.on.ca/guidecollectcomputer > > > > Your comments are invited as are any hints where I might find a complete > > 370/165 or 168. I'm forever hoping. > > What kind of systems are these? I will keep my eyes open. If you are > talking IBM big-iron, that can be arranged. *evil grin* I saw a 370/168 once. I'd swear it was the single largest computer I've ever seen. The building it was in had a disk drive *floor*. I had to use bleach on that underwear. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Laurel, MD

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by dittman＠dittman.net

> > you should really dump the license PAK's and print them out! > > I don't get this. Isn't this like walking up to a combination lock > and saying "SHOW COMBINATION". Shouldn't be possible, > should it? No, this isn't the same. These are licenses, not locks. If anyone is curious, the command is "LICENSE ISSUE xxx", and issuing the license disables it, so you have to "LICENSE ENABLE xxx" to reenable. Also, I'd recommend using the /OUTPUT qualifier if you are going to print the licenses and using both /OUTPUT and /PROCEDURE if you want a copy that you can easily reload later. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Ethusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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Recent finds

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On September 10, Iggy Drougge wrote: > research indicates that this is some PDP-11 (or should it be an LSI-11?) > clone. > Will those two cards we found really suffice for a functioning system? Four > 2901s should only add up to four bits according to my calculations... The 2901 is four bits wide. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Laurel, MD

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DOS 1.0 copyright string

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Hello, all: > > I was able to get my hands on the two DOS 1.0 disks. So, I spent a > few minutes with Sourcer and a good hex editor in search of the DR copyright > notice. I didn't find it. > > Maybe I misunderstood the timing of the message, but I thought that > the 1.0 version of DOS contained copyright information from Digital Research > and when IBM found out, they compelled MS to expunge it, resulting in the > 1.1 version. My recollection (often wrong) was that there was a sequence of code (load register, move to another register, do a call, etc) that was taken verbatim from CP/M and used in DOS; not an ASCII string containing a copyright notice. Regards, -doug q

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Free PDP 11/34 complete setup - Littlerock, CA

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Surely someone in CA can help rescue this system. Info below (I got this @ my pdp11.org address). Please email Kristina directly. pdp11/34 with rsts/e software up for grabs Hello, I have a pdp11/34 with rsts/e software up for grabs. It was my fathers, Bill Ramsey, and it needs a good home since he passed away. There are modems,books, software, tape decks, peripherial equiptment (monitors and computers) and spare PCB's. Just give us a call at 661-944-9550 or email us back at kaesplace(a)aol.com. We are located in Littlerock,CA. Thank you for your time. Sincerly, Kristina Roberts Hello Bill, the PDP11 and associated components roughly occupies the equivilant of 3 refrigerators. There is the main unit, about 8ft tall and width of a filing cabinet, the isolation transformers, the same width and 5ft tall, and then a dozen or so boxes of software, spare boards and literature, as well as a printer and the monitor, plus 2 remote processors. You may be able to get it all into a pickup truck with a large capacity bed. We live in Southern california 60 miles NE of L.A. regards Charles and Kristina Roberts. -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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by dittman＠dittman.net

> > No, this isn't the same. These are licenses, not locks. > > No argument from me. I've been checking the document > archives and I used to know this, but how do you display > the system ID? There was a GetSYI parameter or some > such... I imagine the number can be displayed from the > console as well without an OS booted or even present. > > And... is this a number that Encompass will accept? Do you mean the hardware ID? If so, either enter the serial number or you can make one up. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Ethusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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HP & Compaq

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! I've brought in consultants offering to do everything from a ! similar temporary fix to a complete re-wire.... but there's ! no acknowledgement on the part of said former supervisor ! who is also the closet thing we have to a comptroller that we ! actually have a problem. He said to drop it until I could ! PROVE the wiring wss the problem, and however that might be ! done would likely require resources I don't have. Sounds like you need to borrow cable testing equipment, and show him the results of your cables, compared to the results of a building wired properly... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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2.9BSD UNIX available for PDP-11/23 with MSCP

by engdahl＠cle.ab.com

A version of 2.9BSD UNIX which runs on a PDP-11/23 with MSCP hard drives is now available at: http://www.tuhs.org/Archive/PDP-11/Distributions/ucb/2.9BSD-MSCP/ I tested this on a PDP-11/23 consisting of a KDF11-A CPU, 256 Kb RAM, Andromeda UCD11, SLU card, and a 20 megabyte Seagate ST-225 hard drive. UNIX can be recompiled on this machine. Support for loading 2.9BSD via VTserver from a PC is also included. You have to have a UNIX license before you can access the files. You can get this for free starting here: http://minnie.tuhs.org/PUPS/ -- Jonathan Engdahl???????????????? Rockwell Automation Principal Research Engineer????? 24800 Tungsten Road Advanced Technology????????????? Euclid, OH 44117, USA Euclid Labs????????????????????? engdahl(a)cle.ab.com 216-266-6409

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by dittman＠dittman.net

> > >Of course a PAK generator solves the problem of missing PAKs > > quite nicely. > > > > Yes it does, however I am dearly afraid that with HP and > > Compaq doing the > > dance that the lore of such things will be permanently lost > > at some point. > > AFAIK, the PAKGEN program that third parties > were allowed to purchase would only > generate PAKs in the name of that > third party. So simply having PAKGEN > would not allow you to generate DEC PAKs! True, and PAKGEN was only available to run on a VAX, not an Alpha, so you had to keep a VAX around. > OTOH several people reverse-engineered > the PAK checksum and at least one > company were selling a PAKGEN-like service > until they were "leaned on". Reverse engineering is what most people did. I know of one company still selling a PAK generator, but like PAKGEN it only lets you generate PAKs for your own products. Was the company that was stopped selling a PAK generator or were they selling generated PAKs? If they were selling a PAK generator I don't see how they could be stopped. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Ethusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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Anyone want an 11/750 & 11/730 out of New Jersey?

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 9/9/01 11:21:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gunther(a)aurora.regenstrief.org writes: > Hi, > > I have a contact who needs to get rid of a VAX 11/750 and an > 11/730 real soon and they are in Sommerset County, New Jersey. > A picker-upper would be preferred. There is also an HP 3000/48. > Let me know who wants them and can pick up. If there is contention, > I think one should try sharing, so let me know which one you > really really badly want if you have to choose. Please let me know. Would love to get a hold of a 750 :-) I can find homes for the others as well if nobody else shows an interest here. I am also fairly close by in eastern PA. -Linc Fessenden In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right... Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.

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by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

Chuck McManis wrote: > At 10:41 AM 9/8/01 -0500, Eric wrote: > >Of course a PAK generator solves the problem of missing PAKs > quite nicely. > > Yes it does, however I am dearly afraid that with HP and > Compaq doing the > dance that the lore of such things will be permanently lost > at some point. AFAIK, the PAKGEN program that third parties were allowed to purchase would only generate PAKs in the name of that third party. So simply having PAKGEN would not allow you to generate DEC PAKs! OTOH several people reverse-engineered the PAK checksum and at least one company were selling a PAKGEN-like service until they were "leaned on". Antonio

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by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

Chuck McManis wrote: > A VAXServer 3100/M48 (yet another one I didn't have > yet.) with all the option cards (multi-serial, DMF32, > etc) I don't think a DMF-32 will even physically fit in a VAXserver/VAXstation 3100: it's a UNIBUS card! You probably have a DSH32 and/or DST32. > A bunch of manuals, including the VT103 users guide > and a bunch of VAX 11/730 manuals (including the CPU > technical manual!) It would be nice to see this scanned and made available (especially the VAX-11/730 stuff). Antonio

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Anyone want an 11/750 & 11/730 out of New Jersey?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>I have a contact who needs to get rid of a VAX 11/750 and an >11/730 real soon and they are in Sommerset County, New Jersey. >A picker-upper would be preferred. There is also an HP 3000/48. >Let me know who wants them and can pick up. If there is contention, >I think one should try sharing, so let me know which one you >really really badly want if you have to choose. I am in NJ, and am always interested in playing with computers and computer parts. If no one else wants them, I would be happy to pick them up and play (um, are they free?). But I have to admit, I don't know what to do with either, so I would only take them if it was me or the dumpster. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Not really, Since the combination is keyed and limited to that sytem (or systems) it's intended for. they are also partially encrypted and that part has the "key". Allison -----Original Message----- From: John Allain <allain(a)panix.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Sunday, September 09, 2001 10:37 PM Subject: Re: recent acquisitions for the House of VAX >> you should really dump the license PAK's and print them out! > >I don't get this. Isn't this like walking up to a combination lock >and saying "SHOW COMBINATION". Shouldn't be possible, >should it? > >John A. >

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Fujitsu drives (was Re: Service does still exist....)

by Gary.Messick＠itt.com

Didn't Fujitsu just (within the last week) exit the hard disk market? Or was it just desktop (IDE) drives? > -----Original Message----- > From: Master of all that Sucks [mailto:vance@ikickass.org] > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 10:48 PM > To: Glenatacme(a)aol.com > Cc: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Fujitsu drives (was Re: Service does still exist....) > > > > Well, it usually the large-capacity (4.5+ GB) older > workstation drives. > One good way to find out is to ask Fujitsu. It's the path I normally > take. > > Peace... Sridhar > > On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 Glenatacme(a)aol.com wrote: > > > More information about this, please? If I find a Fujitsu > drive how can I > > tell if the lifetime warranty applies to that drive? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Glen > > 0/0 > > >

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Font used in d|i|g|i|t|a|l logo?

by mranalog＠home.com

When is someone going to recreate the I [heart] d|i|g|i|t|a|l bumper sticker? I had one of those on my rear bumper until I junked the car about 10 years ago. It was just too hard to cut it out of the bumper. --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward @ home in Poulsbo, WA Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://www.best.com/~dcoward/analog =========================================

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ebay: posted more microchannel stuff today

by rhblakeman＠kih.net

Posted 2 Kingston 286 type memory cards, 2 Kingston 386 memory cards and 3 Arco IDE controllers...use ebay's search for my auctions with the seller's username of "rhblake" to see them. Sorry for the OT but I know there plenty of people with NCR and IBM microchannel machines that want these things - I'm doing a major reduction in "stuff" and there will be machines, cards, drives, etc from now until around the first of 2002...

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TI Stuff for Sale

by gehrich＠tampabay.rr.com

At 10:34 AM 8/28/01 -0400, you wrote: >Hello all, > >I have the following TI stuff available. Please see my previous note about >Apple II stuff for all terms/conditions.... > >TI RF Modulator -- Qty. 5, untested, $2.00 EACH I would like to have the TI modulators. If not already spoken for how much for postage and where do I send the check? P.O. Box 3365, Spring Hill Florida 34611-3365

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se scsi from ex8200

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Would the person who wanted the Single Ended SCSI card out of the Exabyte 8200 please resend me a message. I've lost your mail. Thanks, --Chuck

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37 pin connector on VAXServer

by dittman＠dittman.net

> I've found that the 37 pin connector on the back of the VAXServer 3100 is a > DECNet connector. Depending on the pigtail it connects to either a V35 plug > (big square thing) or a DB25 that connected to a DEC synchronous modem. It sounds like a synchronous serial adapter that can be used for DECnet, not a DECnet-only adapter. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Ethusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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by dittman＠dittman.net

> At 12:51 PM 9/8/01 -0500, Eric wrote: > >Do you mean you are worried the Hobbyist program will go away? > >Eric Dittman > > No, I _know_ the Hobbyist program will go away. People like HP and Compaq > are starting to layoff people who they actually still have a use for in > order to cut costs. What's the ROI on the Hobbyist program? Zilch! So it > gives them some good press but it also causes their operations folks to get > calls from folks who are trying to find spares for machines they never > heard of. So they will kill it, I just hope they give out lifetime PAKs > before they do. Compaq authorizes the Hobbyist program, but they don't do much else. They don't pay to maintain the program, they don't give away the distributions, they don't provide the PAKs. I don't think the Hobbyist program costs Compaq more than a minimal amount. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Ethusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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37 pin connector on VAXServer

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

I've found that the 37 pin connector on the back of the VAXServer 3100 is a DECNet connector. Depending on the pigtail it connects to either a V35 plug (big square thing) or a DB25 that connected to a DEC synchronous modem. --Chuck

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by dittman＠dittman.net

> >> Yes it does, however I am dearly afraid that with HP and Compaq doing the > >> dance that the lore of such things will be permanently lost at some point. > >> If Compaq would just say "screw it, the next time someone requests a > >> license give them a non-expiring one." my heart would rest easier... > > > >Do you mean you are worried the Hobbyist program will go away? > > I've been worried about it for several years. What ticks me off is you can > buy a Hobbyist package from Compaq for Tru64, and it has non-expiring > packs, and CD's. Why can't they do that for OpenVMS? I'd gladly pay > $200-300 for that! Which is a lot more than the $99 for Tru64. The real > joke being the Tru64 hobbyist shipped for the first couple weeks with an > OpenVMS Condist bundled in (someone made a major mistake)! Unfortunatly I > wasn't lucky enough to get one, but a friend did. I was one of the lucky ones to get the OpenVMS ConDist after ordering the Tru64 Hobbyist package. The package wasn't just the ConDist, it also included PAKs. The package was for people in the developer's program. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Ethusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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IEEE-488 interface and Commodore Pet

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 8, 13:51, Louis Schulman wrote: > I have done some research, and since this subject seems to only interest me, I will respond to myself. > I see no alternate but to appeal to my British brethren regarding any such card they may find in > their travels. Tony, Pete, et al, I beseech you! To each of you I say, "Hast thou a response?" Not a very helpful one, I'm afraid. I actually visited Brain Boxes not long after they moved to Wavertree Technology Park, and at that time they had a respectable portfolio of IEEE-488 devices, and I noticed a few PETs and other machines around. That was over ten years ago and even then they were looking at other product areas. I've never had any contact with them since, so unless you can get any response from them direct, I haven't any suggestions. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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by dittman＠dittman.net

> I got a great bunch of artifacts recently from an ex-Digit (DEC Employee) > who was finally not going to use his VAX for anything else any more. They are a good source of interesting stuff. I got Autocad for VMS that way. > These included: > A set a PAKs that rivals the Hobbyist offering > and exceeds it in that it has a PL/I and APL PAK. I asked about PL/I not being included in the Hobbyist licensing program and was told that was because Compaq no longer owns PL/I. I guess APL isn't in the Hobbyist license set as that hasn't been a deliverable for a long time. Does anyone know when it was last included in the ConDist sets? If so I can look for it. I have several year's worth of ConDist CDs but have lost the paperwork that listed the included products. Of course a PAK generator solves the problem of missing PAKs quite nicely. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Ethusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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HP & Compaq

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Have you brought up an interim fix - either clip the ties and support the > cat5 bundle off the conduits? OR untie it, wrap the bundles with common > aluminum foil (yeah it works) and then retie them using looser cable ties? > Might be a nice way to pick up a few extra bucks on a weekend and make them > happy at the same time. I've brought in consultants offering to do everything from a similar temporary fix to a complete re-wire.... but there's no acknowledgement on the part of said former supervisor who is also the closet thing we have to a comptroller that we actually have a problem. He said to drop it until I could PROVE the wiring wss the problem, and however that might be done would likely require resources I don't have. Said former supervisor and the 30% co-owner make all final determinations as to what $$$ can be spent purely on cash-flow and profitability... ideas such as IT-spending-as-investment are total anathema. Most IT spending gets done during the end-of-year-write-it- off-as-supplies spending orgy. -dq

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CoCo Xpndr1 (was: RE: Keep or assemble???

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>A) Anybody know anything about the company that marketed these, as I don't >want to intentionally break any copyright laws; but with no info on the >internet & the extreme possibility of the company no longer existing, does >anyone think I'll be in trouble with the law WRT copyright laws? I'm mainly >just using the original as a pattern for (1) the signal names & pinouts, >and (2) the dimensions of the connectors & pins (I didn't have anything >else that had the ground pegs on either side of the connector). If you are redesigning for YOUR use only, then at least in the US, there is no copyright problem any which way (it falls under Fair Use). >The designs (when they get closer to completion) I will have on my website >for free, but if I make several cards and someone else is dumb^H^H^H^H bold >enough to purchase one I would sell them for a small profit... This is where you can get in trouble. If you make your mods available to the public (even if for free), you can be seen as infringing upon the owners rights. However, if the company has gone out of business, you probably wont get in any trouble. But do NOT confuse out of business with public domain, they are not one in the same, just because the company is out of business or isn't selling the item any more, does NOT mean that the item is public domain. They still have the rights to it, and can choose how and where it can be made available. I personally still don't think you will have a problem, but you will most likely technically be breaking the law. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Some new stuff. What is it?

by kd7bcy＠teleport.com

OK, maybe it's not... I found the power supply. No smoke or flames. Not much of anything. The green LED turns on when I plug in the power, but the entire thing(including my power cube) goes dead when I plug in the monitor. It might need a special monitor. It DOES, however, respond to the keyboard. Caps, num and scroll locks all function and those lights blink twice when the power is turned on and then it bleeps at me. I guess the next step is to plug a printer into it and see what happens, but I probably won't get around to digging out a parallel printer until next week. BTW, my power supply is getting worse. The 7.5v setting puts out 12.5, and the 12v setting puts out 22!!! Ouch! I'm thinking it's time to get another one. Or better, make one. A nice regulated supply. I don't think it harmed the box though, since it has a voltage regulator right inside. -- /------------------------------------\ | http://jrollins.tripod.com/ | | KD7BCY kd7bcy(a)teleport.com | \------------------------------------/

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Font used in d|i|g|i|t|a|l logo?

by jeremy.barker＠btinternet.com

The Digital logo does not use any known font because it was hand drawn by a graphic artist. It looks very similar to the Helvetica/Univers "Swiss" type fonts but is not identical to any of them. As someone else has noted there is a PostScript version of the logo. IIRC it was produced by digitising a large film master which revealed some interesting things - for example, the two i characters aren't identical. For producing print copy before the age of PostScript Digital used dry transfer sheets that were custom made in a variety of sizes. I'm afraid that I cannot help on the other font(s) used in the pdp logos and on cabinet panels. jb - London, UK

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symphony for dot matrix printers

by dittman＠dittman.net

> >From what I've been told, the system was designed by Tony Pepin. This is > >kind of neat for me since at one time I owned (and may still, I'm not sure > >*grin*) a Model I that had his name, address and phone # engraved on the > >case. (I also owned a Model I that at one time was the personal machine > >of the editor of 80 US Micro - that was pretty cool too. *laughs*) > > That's cool...it's always neat to know any specific history > of a machine like that. One of my Model 2000's was gotten from Roy > Soltoff of Misosys. He had bought it to get into software > development for the 2000 but then ended up never using it when the > market never materialized. Indeed. I am fortunate to have the Dennis Bathory-Kitsz's personal LNW-80. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Ethusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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Updated: DEC PDP-10 Emulation Web Page

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I think I forgot to announce the webpage here a month or so when I did it up. Anyway I've just updated it to reflect that beta's of simh 2.7 are available now, AND more importantly that a ITS distribution is now available! It can be accessed at http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/pdp10emu.html The webpage details where to get an emulator (including links to Windows binaries), the installation documents for your OS of choice (TOPS-10, TOPS-20, or ITS), your OS of choice (well, at least the versions that are supported), and any doc's that are available online for the OS. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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symphony for dot matrix printers

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Jim Tuck <technos(a)nerdland.org> >D'ya know if they ever fixed the mid-bitstream problem that was common >early with the >Trash and later with the Atari and their MPI over cassette interface? I >had one of the >Atari setups, nice so long as you were only using it like a multi-cable >PtP setup. Yes. One fix for the cload TRS80 problem was an internal counter based oneshot that would clear the RS flop at the ttl end of the CLOAD read hardware. The interface depended on the transistion detector being reset by software and sometimes that didnt happen and it would get lost. The other problem was if you were doing back to back (cpu to cpu) CLOAD CSAVE the clock on one could be way off and after a minute or so of data transfer the recieving system would get behind. Allison

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FSOT 3

by allain＠panix.com

My community is having a mass tag sale around me so kinda getting into the spirit. Free for Postage else TOSS! Bubbl-tec Bubbl-Machine literature pack. Sheets for DEC LSI-11, SBC-80, Multibus Bubble memory Wyse Literature Pages on the WY-30,50,60,85,99GT terminals AT&T 6386 WGS sales specifications card. Four Best offers takes: DEC "Microcomputer Processors" 1978-79 Reference manual on the LSI-11. Softbound, 250 or so pages. John A. There's a few computer related items on my lawn too to test the waters.

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HP & Compaq

by technos＠nerdland.org

On Friday, September 07, 2001 11:19 PM, Megan [SMTP:mbg@world.std.com] wrote: > > If this goes through, it means I will have worked for three > separate companies in five years time, and not had to move > my office once... > > Megan Gentry I've worked for five in just over three. Granted, I've moved my cube, but that was solely motivated by my ambition to gradually get 1) Closer to a coffee pot 2) A window 3) A convenient exit for those 'late days'. through exploiting my co-workers temporary vacancies, and not because I had to. Jim

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[Fwd: Undeliverable Mail]

by RHudson＠esprit.com

Well several of my replys were rejected by classicomp email system so here they all are together... :^) Ethan Dicks wrote: > --- Ron Hudson <rhudson(a)cnonline.net> wrote: > >> I was going to write a simulator for Bell Labs "Cardiac" (cardboard >> slide the slides and move bits be the cpu your self) computer, but >> all I >> can find is the Instruction Set... > > > Do you _have_ a CARDIAC? Do you want one? > > -ethan > > > > __________________________________________________ I don't have one, but the instruction set was listed on the Internet once or twice, 0,input ... What I don't have is the "Wireing" that graphic on the "cpu" side that controlls operation, and there are part that change with the instructions. Yes I would like a cardiac, any donations? (will trade for C coded emulator :^) [ will code for toys?? ] ) I went on to "design" the 8 bit machine described because cardiac won't handle character data, only 3 digit numbers. I also wanted to make use of the a whole 8 bits, and have each instruction use only 8 bits (well some of them do read the next byte via indirect of the PC) Also I think the flag testing at for each instruction is um clever, what do you think. will repost instruction set if desired. I really wanted some of you to look over the instruction set and theory to see if I was obvously missing somthing. Reply to Zane... Thanks for the pointer to the TOPS-10 emulator I will see what I can do with it...

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IBM DOS 3.0, MS-DOS 5.x etc

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

I've got some copies of DOS. I know, I know. Does anyone want them? I've got PC-DOS 3.0 in the original IBM slipcase I've got two copies of MS-DOS 5, one is still shrinkwrapped I think I have PC-DOS 3.2 anyway they are available for postage or free if you come to sunnyvale to get them. --Chuck

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Some new stuff. What is it?

by kd7bcy＠teleport.com

For those of you in Portland, OR, the Wacky Willy's on NW Vaughn St. has a LOT of cool stuff. A bunch of Macs and PC's(including several large Compaq servers with either 486 or 586 and lots of HD's... Might go back and get one myself for $100) and TONS of furniture of the odd kind. Seems that OHSU has turned the place into their new dumping grounds. Sadly, the Macs were all missing the hard drive, and most of the PC's have either been wiped or stripped of drives also. Lots of Compaqs! Anyway, I picked up some odd parts as well as an Epson HX-20 with an expansion unit and micro-cassette drive cartridge and a cute plastic carrying case. I should be able to figure it out easily, and my PX-8 finally has a companion! The item that really stumps me appears to be a terminal of some sort. It's in a very small box (6x8x1) and has a Z180 in it, next to a large(160 pin) unmarked chip. It has VGA video, DIN-5 keyboard, parallel printer, and two RJ-style(6 pins, and an offset clip) COM ports. It needs a small headphone plug for power with 12v, so I need to dig out my crappy universal power supply and see what blows up(I've noticed that it tends to put out a few extra volts... 12v setting is usually 18v with no load and closer to 13-15 with small loads) The only markings are on the edge of the board and on the EPROMs. The board says "01000117 REV.01 MAGPIE SSPC" and the EPROMs say "6086 7/6 1600 EL 0" and "EL 1" for the next chip. As soon as I can find my power wart I'll post an update about the size of the flames spitting out of it ;-) (NOOooooo! Come back magic smoke!!!) -- /------------------------------------\ | http://jrollins.tripod.com/ | | KD7BCY kd7bcy(a)teleport.com | \------------------------------------/

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VCB02 pinout?

by root＠diablonet.net

Hi! Thanks to the generosity of one list member, I now have a VCB02 boardset to play around with. Unfortunately, I don't have the bulkhead panel for it. Does anyone know what the connector and pinout was for this? On a related note, can the cable used to hook up a keyboard/mouse/monitor on a VAXstation 2000 also be used to connect a keyboard/mouse/monitor to the VCB02 subsystem? It sounds like they're pretty much identical. Thanks, Sean -- Sean Caron http://www.diablonet.net scaron(a)engin.umich.edu root(a)diablonet.net

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symphony for dot matrix printers

by technos＠nerdland.org

On Friday, September 07, 2001 7:04 PM, Jeff Hellige [SMTP:jhellige@earthlink.net] wrote: > saving stuff from the slave machines. It worked pretty well though. > Anyone know just what additional stuff was needed to do it? > > Jeff I played with one of these early on. To load and save files from the slaves? There was just a little third-party bit of 'repeater' software that tried to emulate a CLOAD. Couldn't do anything other than save, tho. The hardware itself was just a pair of RC pairs and a single transistor amp. Think there was some TTL glue, but I can't see it as being terribly important. D'ya know if they ever fixed the mid-bitstream problem that was common early with the Trash and later with the Atari and their MPI over cassette interface? I had one of the Atari setups, nice so long as you were only using it like a multi-cable PtP setup. Jim.

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HP & Compaq

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Russ Blakeman <rhblakeman(a)kih.net> > I never have a problem with the business line of HP PCs' (Kayak, Brio and > Vectra) - the Pavilion line keeps me going with warranty repairs at $65 per > inshop repair and $30 per "exchange unit". I was specifically referring to the Pavilions. The Vectras were especially well-made. > I only get one of every 50 or 60 > owners that have the Compaq owner's attitude about HP's machines. Not too sure what you're saying here. > If you contact customer support at HP they can either ship a free restore > set if it's under warranty and you tell them it's there but not loading. If > you've lost it, in or out of warranty, they can sell you a replacemant if > you supply the unit serial number. Problem is the customers often won't wait. We're famous for <= 2-day-turnaround ;>) > Packard Bell wasn't bad near the end of their reign of terror. They got real > too late and were already on a downward spiral fast towards earth. Yeah, their P-II boxes were *almost* standard ATX. > I don't know why anyone feels the HP restore is bloated...it's all > MicroSteal for the most part. All windows 98, NT, ME and 2k stuff is huge > and you need a broadband connection to download it. I just popped $20 for > the Win NT 4.0 service pack 6.0a rather than sit for 2 days downloading it. I never download any MS stuff. I'm referring to the device drivers for goodies like the Riptide sound/modem combo. The drivers posted at hp.com are > 9MB. The *real* fun begins when, after the download, the installation program pukes up a message: "Cannot find original driver files -- update terminated" or something to that effect. Why aren't the originals available on their site??? And what sort of code, exactly, is in a > 14 MB video driver??? When I was writing C for a living, if I had ever produced an executable -- never mind a device driver -- which occupied 14 MB of disk space I would have been sent packing. Sheesh. Glen 0/0

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