- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by deckergear＠hotmail.com

I HAVE WHAT U ARE LOOKING FOR. I NEED TO GET DATA FROM 5 1/4 TO WINDOWS MACHINE. ANY SUGGESTIONS? AFTER THAT I WANT TO GET RID OF THE 803. RESPOND ASAP TO SAVE MY BUTT!! THANKS

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TO: Rca systemlink 5 remote codes and how to program this on e?

by bjones＠azvets.com

http://download.rca.com/english/RCA/ACCESSORIES/IB/CRCU100.pdf <http://download.rca.com/english/RCA/ACCESSORIES/IB/CRCU100.pdf>

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Reading data from a CDC Hawk Drive

by kevin＠xpuppy.freeserve.co.uk

As part of an emulator project I need to read data from many CDC Hawk packs. I have a drive and I believe it is an SMD interface. The drive also seems to be known as a DD1600. Does anyone have any details on this drive? Two possible options occured to me:- 1. Obtain (?) an SMD controller card for a PC and try to access the drive using this - and an appropriate amount of C. 2. Use a QBUS SMD controller in my PDP11 and get at the data that way. Any thoughts gratefully received. (BTW The machine I am emulating is an old British minicomputer called the Molecular.) Kevin Murrell ------------- www.ps8computing.co.uk

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Sources for punched cards

by hansp＠aconit.org

OK, I remember readding here some time ago that there were still sources of new punched cards in the states. My searches have come up empty. Can anyone point me at a company that still supplies punched cards. I would prefer one in europe but that would probably be asking too much Regards, -- HBP

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Osborne 1 Keyboard (was RE: Reading non-PC format floppies (+ OT questions :-))

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

I have an Osborne 1 Technical manual which has info on the keyboard and some schematics, as well as a printout of the BIOS source. I'm out of town now, so I'll try to get it (at least keyboard info, as the BIOS source is many pages) to you on Monday. Bob Feldman -----Original Message----- From: wrm(a)ccii.co.za To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Sent: 10/26/01 2:36 AM Subject: Re: Reading non-PC format floppies (+ OT questions :-) <snip> (1) Osborne 1. - Keyboard is shorted internally. Screen reads "insert disk and press Enter" or whatever, then refreshes / redraws all the time. This stops when I unplug the keyboard. I think I know which two pins connect to the Enter key, when I short those two pins same thing happens. I'm suspecting the 8877 FDC chip. Does anyone have: -- Memory (I/O) map -- Schematic (ja sure :-) -- BIOS disassembly -- tips on fixing the keyboard? <Snip> Wouter www.retro.co.za

23 years, 6 months

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IBM 8 Inch Drive

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 10/26/01 2:03:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wmsmith(a)earthlink.net writes: > > Perhaps you mean System 23, in which case the relevant dual > 8 incher would be a model 5246. > You are right I was thinking of the System 23. Hmm, if that drive number is 5246 then this one must be for the Displaywriter. Paxton

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blinkenlights for everybody (?)

by pechter＠ureach.com

---- On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Gooijen H (GOOI(a)oce.nl) wrote: > Hi all. > > Some weeks ago there was a thread about blinkenlights and consoles. > It was mentioned that a simple piece of hardware (just a few > resistors two transistors and 16 LEDs) connected to the printer port > of a PC can be brought to life when you run Ersatz-11. > Well, it took some time for me to decide whether I should go 'public' > with a project I intend to embark on. > In short: a *_full_* console on a PC that runs Ersatz-11. > The reason to announce the project is to get feedback. Am I on the > right track. Have a look, on this page (part of my website) you can > find a small ZIP file that contains the draft document that descibes > it. > > http://home.hetnet.nl/~tshaj/pdpsite/homebrew/startframe.html > > Any comment is appreciated. > > - Henk. > > > > > Great piece of work... I'm going to have to see if I can build one as well. Bill -- Bill Pechter Systems Administrator uReach Technologies 732-335-5432 (Work) 877-661-2126 (Fax)

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blinkenlights for everybody (?)

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

Nice job Henk! It looks like you have a fine idea... --tom At 01:34 PM 10/26/01 +0200, you wrote: > Hi all. > >Some weeks ago there was a thread about blinkenlights and consoles. >It was mentioned that a simple piece of hardware (just a few >resistors two transistors and 16 LEDs) connected to the printer port >of a PC can be brought to life when you run Ersatz-11. >Well, it took some time for me to decide whether I should go 'public' >with a project I intend to embark on. >In short: a *_full_* console on a PC that runs Ersatz-11. >The reason to announce the project is to get feedback. Am I on the >right track. Have a look, on this page (part of my website) you can >find a small ZIP file that contains the draft document that descibes >it. > >http://home.hetnet.nl/~tshaj/pdpsite/homebrew/startframe.html > >Any comment is appreciated. > >- Henk. > > > >

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IBM 8 Inch Drive

by univac2＠earthlink.net

A dual IBM 8" diskette drive is for sale on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1287758038 It looks like the Display Writer drives to me. Will it work with a System/36 5362? The connector on the drive looks like it matches the connector on my 5362.

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Um, SOL50 fell in my lap

by john_boffemmyer_iv＠boff-net.dhs.org

some old guy handed me a SOL50 with teletype, working and a huge box of documentation, boards, etc. also, 2 thinkertoys 750mb external drives for it. no monitor though. nice toy =) -John ---------------------------------------- Founder, Lead Writer, Tech Analyst and Web Designer Boff-Net Technologies http://boff-net.dhs.org/index.html ---------------------------------------

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IBM 8 Inch Drive

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 10/26/01 12:00:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, CAA007216(a)mail.ono.es writes: > > I asked about it sometime ago. It appears to have > one 37 pin standard interface, but it's not clear what > is (or do) the other connector. > I think this is for the System 32 Datamaster. I don't know what the extra plug is for other than you need both to plug into the system. Paxton Astoria, OR

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macintosh analogue board reconditioning

by red＠bears.org

Howdy to the list (and especially to Tony)... I have a Macintosh 512K I would like to use to demonstrate certain UI principles (okay, and also to play Dark Castle). The display hasn't worked properly since I got it though. In an attempt to stabilize the image, I pulled off the insulating fibreboard covering the sweep board, and looked for bad solder joints to fix. The problem is I don't know what a bad solder joint looks like aside >from 'dull', and none of the joints look particularly 'dull' to me. I reflowed a few joints randomly, with no clear sense of what I was doing or where particularly to focus my attentions. Predictably it did not change the behaviour of the image on the display noticeably. I just in the last few minutes switched the machine on to photograph the display for your expert appraisals, and found that its behaviour has changed since it has sat. Now when I switch it on the internal speaker makes a repeated popping. I'm guessing the power supply is resetting itself continuously for whatever unknown reason. I could use some guidance repairing this fault. What's my first step? Tony, I'm a module swapper because that's what I know, and usually the problems I have are in software anyway. I'm handy with a soldering iron, though, and I'm showing a willingness to learn something new. Help! ok r.

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IBM 8 Inch Drive

by CAA007216＠mail.ono.es

We had one of these in our installation connected to one Displaywrite system, if I remember well, and another in the S/390 room. I asked about it sometime ago. It appears to have one 37 pin standard interface, but it's not clear what is (or do) the other connector. Regards Sergio ----- Mensaje Original ----- Remitente: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> Fecha: Jueves, Octubre 25, 2001 7:28 am Asunto: Re: IBM 8 Inch Drive > It looks like a toaster, without the bread slots!! :-) > > What type of controller board does this use? Anybody know? > > Chad Fernandez > Michigan, USA > > Owen Robertson wrote: > > > > A dual IBM 8" diskette drive is for sale on eBay: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.co > > > > It looks like the Display Writer drives to me. Will it work with > a System/36 > > 5362? The connector on the drive looks like it matches the > connector on my > > 5362. >

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[OT] New toy...

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Congrats, Daniel. I am a HAM amateur since 1974, my call is PE1CKF. Just like you I never passed the morse code tests. It is difficult to find the time *each* evening for, let's say 20-30 minutes, listening to morse. But with the latest developments like morse code exam at 5 words per minute or even less (!) perhaps I will one day be able to talk to you on 40 or 20 meters without the morse code study. During the study at the Technical Highschool, in the 3rd year, you work for some companies as part of the education. One semester I had to stay as a guest with some people. In the evening I was alone in my room so I took my rig, an ICOM-211 144-146 MHz all mode, with an HB9CV antenna with me the next week. Could enjoy the local HAMs, but after some 10 minutes participation, the woman came up the stairs. I had to stop immediately whatever I was doing because her electrical organ made very strange sounds as if an old drunk sailor had hidden inside the organ and was mumbling something .... I am pretty sure that many people on this list are HAM. - Henk. > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel A. Seagraves [mailto:DSEAGRAV@toad.xkl.com] > Sent: vrijdag 26 oktober 2001 5:20 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: [OT] New toy... > > > I got a new toy today... The FCC granted me the callsign KC9ALV. > Now not only can I annoy my mom by leaving large computer parts around > the house, I can annoy her by coming over the phone lines and > TV and such. ^_^ > (I'm just kidding... All I have that I can use is an HT, I > didn't pass the Morse > so the HF rig is a paperweight until December, which is the > next time the test > runs around here. But once I get HF access, I may have to > worry! ^_^ And I do > know enough about RFI to know how to stop it, I'm just making > a joke about it.) > > ------- > >

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CP/M Heaven (was HH8899 eecchhoo)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Tony and Sellam, thanks to both of you for the suggestions. I'm going to give Sellam's idea a try first since it's easier to poke a few keys than to open the box ;>) I'll let you know what I find out. The H89 was just one of several computers I've been given recently. Among them were several TS1000s, a ZX80, a TS1500, an Apple ][e with monitor, dual drives, and printer, and more. The CP/M boxes alone include the H89, two Z100s (one with hard drive!), and a Xerox 820 with hard drive and dual 8" drives. As I bring these boxes into action I'm sure I'll have plenty of questions for the CP/M folks out there, and some for the Z80 and S-100 hardware people too ;>) For starters: The Z100 with the hard drive looks good, but I can't format the ZDOS partition. PREP initializes the drive, tests the media (this takes 1.5 hours on a 20 MB drive), and creates the partitions. I can then monkey around with the size of the partitions and their names, etc. However, FORMAT E: /S produces "Invalid media type reading drive E: Abort, retry or fail?" I've swapped three different hard drives into the system, and replaced the hd controller (I don't think I have a spare data separator board). I can successfully initialize and copy files to the CP/M-85 partition (can't make it bootable yet as I don't have complete CP/M-85 system disks for it). And, what are the four adjacent jumpers on the hd controller (not the Format Enable)? Is there any documentation available for this board? I have docs for all the Z100 hardware except the hd controller . . . Any ideas are welcome! Glen 0/0

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What people "should" know

by alan.pearson＠cramer.com

> YEsterday, somebody here (sorry, I can't remember who -- Alan Pearson?) yup, that was me :-) > admit that I don't have a clue about whatever bit of Java he claims people > should understand. Hang on, I'm only moaning about CS graddies who have been taught Java for a year at college :-) java.lang.Object is the base class of everything in Java, if they don't know that after being taught it for a whole year then they know nothing much about Java, IMHO. Probably don't know a great deal about inheritance either. It only annoys me when I end up interviewing them and their CV says "studied Java programming for 1 year, in-depth understanding of language & APIs", when they plainly know jack (in a box). Doesn't mean anyone else should know it, only people who claim to "know Java". > Nor could I make any obvious comments about #include<foo.cpp> . > It doesn't look particularly bad to me. As you say, you're not a programmer. I wouldn't expect you to make any comments. But people who have been taught C++ would recognise that this is not the "done thing". To quote Gordon The Big Engine (sorry, too many kids videos!), "it isn't wrong, but we just don't do it" :-) > Does the above make me clueless. Not at all, if I had 1/10th your hardware knowledge I'd be a very happy chappy :) -al

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Altos 586

by jkaye＠isd.net

I got an Altos 586 from a friend a while ago, with an external 2400 baud modem and a Wyse (50?) terminal. There were no Unix install disks included. I am looking to reinstall the OS, does anyone know where I could get a copy of the Xenix that it uses? -- Joseph Kaye 1989 Lincoln Mark VII LSC 1995 Ford Aerostar XLT -80HP NOS System -Contemplating Nitrous Install... -B&M AOD Shift Kit -4.0 V6 / Electronic 4wd -Addco Swaybars and Koni Struts -ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US

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OT: Re: Periodic rants on eBay

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Fine. How about the original Macintosh that went for close to $1,000 >because it was "signed on the inside of the case by all the original >design team members"? You know, if someone is going to be an excited collector, they should be an EDUCATED collector. ALL macs up thru the Plus and part way thru the SE were signed on the inside by the original design team. Now a 128k that was NOT signed (but that the back case was original)... THAT would be an oddity and possibly of value (but since TTBOMK, there is no such beast, I would have to seriously doubt the authenticity). Things like that make me laugh. (I WISH I could sell one of my 128s for $1000, I would make a point of fixing the two that don't work!... but of course, if it is the signatures they want, I can sell them a platinum Mac Plus that reboots spontaneously) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Altos 586

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I have had several Altos 586s Some ran MPM and some ran a very early version of Xenix. Does your machine boot? Have a hard drive? It has been a long time but I really liked the Altos machines. Paxton Astoria, OR

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macintosh analogue board reconditioning

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>I just in the last few minutes switched the machine on to photograph the >display for your expert appraisals, and found that its behaviour has >changed since it has sat. Now when I switch it on the internal speaker >makes a repeated popping. I'm guessing the power supply is resetting >itself continuously for whatever unknown reason. In the pre SE analog boards (128, 512, 512ke, Plus... they all used essentially the same board), there were a few common problems. One was a cracked solder joint on the main power feed (?). I think its location was "J1", if I remember correctly. The joint looked broken, in that the pin sticking thru the back side would have a blob of solder around it that would have a crack in it, and possibly be seperated from the board. If I remember right, it was a red cable in a group of cables, located kind of in the center of the board. Another common problem was a bad high freq capacitor. It was a large capacitor located near the top of the analog board. I think it might have been the only large cap up there. Unfortuantly, it didn't tend to show any damage to a visual inspection. I can get specs on the cap and location when I am at work tomorrow. The final common problem was a bad diode near the bottom of the board. When it was bad, the machine would make a "flup flup flup" kind of noise when you try to turn it on (Ah HAH... sounds like what you might have). Again, it showed no signs of damage toa visual inspection, but would test bad. And again, I can get specs on it when I get to work tomorrow. An ever so handy book for fixing these problems is "The Dead Mac Scrolls", but good luck finding a copy, I think it has been out of print for some time (although, there may be an updated version, I just tend to doubt it will cover the old units). I happen to have a copy, and would be more than happy to skim thru it and work with you to find the problems and repair them. I will email again tomorrow with better details of where to check and what to test. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Altos 586

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 10/25/01 2:15:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com writes: > There were Altos' that ran MP/M-II, and others than ran XENIX... ISTR > that the 586 was the squarish-box that ran MP/M-II, while the other > model that had a hi-techish, Datageneralish look to it ran XENIX. > We had both... > > The Z-80 Altos was the 580. This was the same squashed hexagon design used in the 586, 786 etc. Since it was a multiterminal machine each terminal had it's own Z-80 IIRC. These ran CPM and MPM. The 586s were an 8086 16 bit designs. Most of the ones I saw ran Xenix. however I had a couple that ran MPM-II based on a version of Digital Research DOS-86, I can't remember what it was called. Most 586s were of the squashed Hex design that I think Doug is calling DGish. I do seem to remember the first 586s were shipped in a square box, a la the 8XXX series. Of course my memory could be off, it has been a long time and I never saw one of those. Paxton Astoria, OR

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IBM ROM BASIC or lack thereof

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 25, 10:30, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > --- Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > On several occasions I asked for 'An ST506 interface hard disk of about > > 50Mbytes' and had to explain what I meant... > > Yes, but how many heads did it have? Was it an ST506-interface drive > or an ST412-interface drive? It's being pedantic, but there is a > single-line difference. One could imagine a controller that could > handle a real ST-506 but not a real ST-412 drive. AFAIK, by the time > PCs supported the ST-225, it was a moot point, but pre-PeeCee controllers > might not be happy. Or the other way around; IIRC most ST-412 style drives would accept slow step pulses. I have an ST-506 style drive that won't work on almost any controller I have because it can't keep up with fast step pulses that an ST-412 would buffer. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 6 months

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macintosh analogue board reconditioning

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>> that the pin sticking thru the back side would have a blob of solder >> around it that would have a crack in it, and possibly be seperated from >> the board. If I remember right, it was a red cable in a group of cables, >> located kind of in the center of the board. > >In the middle of the board there's J4, which is the cable to the logic >board. I've never had dry joints there. Yes, J4 is what I was thinking of here. This is the one that commonly cracked, and carried the smack the case repair tip from Apple. I am amazed you haven't seen it go, I think every Mac Plus I repaired had signs of that joint having been overheating and arcing (one was so bad, the PCB was eaten out around the connector, and the insulating cover had a hole burned thru it). Most were cracked and needed to be resolded. Of course, mine all would have looked worse, as for quite some time, they were all treated with the case smacking... and many of the staff didn't understand to hit it gently, to jar the connection, not punch it to knock the mac off the desk (I started doing repairs when I came in one day to hear a chorus of *SMACK* &#@&$(@#&*# *SMACK* going up and down the halls... but back then I was part time, so things had to get pretty bad before anyone called me to come in) >> The final common problem was a bad diode near the bottom of the board. > >The component reference for that would be interesting. Maybe one of CR21, >CR20, CR26 (recitifer diodes for the 3 main supply lines)? The one I was thinking of is CR20. (I am almost positive that is the one, I have to base it off my notes unless I am going to actually open one of the repaired macs and have a look) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ...

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

The problem is not the need for an inverter but the right cab kit so it all come out to the right connector. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Thursday, October 25, 2001 1:46 PM Subject: Re: first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ... > >--- Gunther Schadow <gunther(a)aurora.regenstrief.org> wrote: >> - The DMB32 parallel printer is not a Centronics interface. But >> I may actually have a printer to go with it. A BIG thing, not >> heavy but taking up precious space if I put it into my >> basement. > >We used to use an LP25 on our DMF32 (Unibus ancestor of the DMB32). It >was a Dataproduct printer with a DEC badge. I do recall seeing a simple >circuit somewhere involving an inverter or two to attach a Centronics >printer to an LPV11. It shouldn't be a complicated matter to examine >which signals on the DP port are low-true and which ones are low-true >on a "Centronics" port and deduce which handshaking lines need inverted. > >-ethan > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. >http://personals.yahoo.com

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first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ...

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

This is easy... LAV-11 with DMF32 cab kit. The latter is needed for the correct connector. I did this the first time in 1984 after being told you cant connect a LP25 (Dataproducts I/F) to an 11/23... The bet was $1, I won. I still have that LAV-11 and the 11/23. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Thursday, October 25, 2001 5:22 PM Subject: Re: first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ... >> I'm not Antonio or Allison, but I can answer this question. The "Data Products" >> parallel port works with printers with a "Data Products" parallel interface. I've >> used a couple of different printers with this interface. It's been a while so I >> can't remember the official name of the interface. The printers I used were made >> by Data Products and OEMed to other manufacturers (including DEC). > >IIRC, the Data Products interface is pretty similar to Centronics. I am >working from a dim memory here, but it's something like either the strobe >or busy/ready, or both need to be inverted to link a Centronics printer >to a Data Products host interface. You'll have to get the pinouts and >match up signals, of course, but generally it can be got to work with >only a couple of inverters. > >-tony

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IBM ROM BASIC or lack thereof

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> > What's the deal with the BASIC in ROM on these machines? Any other early > > PeeCee's have this feature? > > It's standard Microsoft cassette BASIC. Similar to (say) TRS-80 CoCo > BASIC. > > The true-blue IBM PC. PC/XT (and therefore PortablePC), PC/AT, PCjr, etc > all have BASIC in ROM. I don't think it was ever licensed to clones, and > I don't think any clone company ever wrote a ROM BASIC from scratch. So > pretty much the only place you'll find it is in IBM machines. Tony, I think you are correct as I've never seen a clone mb with BASIC in ROM, but I *have* seen clone boards -- including early Pentium boards -- which would cough up "no rom basic" if they didn't find a bootable device. Oddly enough the text of this message is always displayed in 40-column low-res mode. Doesn't this suggest that part of the ROM BIOS code was "borrowed" from early IBM code? Glen 0/0

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SCSI Tape + MV3100 + VMS

by matt＠knm.yi.org

Hi guys, Dunno if anyone can help here, but I was recently given a Tandberg TDC 3325 and some tapes. The guy who gave this to me had it working in a PC with a SCSI controller running linux. I've not got any documentation for this drive at all, so I'd like to know what the SW1 dipswitch sets (I've worked out 1-3 are SCSI ID) Now I'd like to use this drive in my MV3100 to backup the VMS 5.4 install before I ditch it and start over with VMS 7.x. I put the drive in, and turned on the VAX - so far so good... >>> show dev VMS/VMB ULTRIX ADDR DEVTYP NUMBYTES RM/FX WP DEVNAM REV ------- ------ -------- ------ -------- ----- -- ------ --- ESA0 SE0 08-00-2B-23-3D-21 DKA300 RZ3 A/3/0/00 DISK 121 MB FX RZ23L 252B ...HostID.... A/6 INTR MKB400 TZ12 B/4/0/00 TAPE ........ RM ........... ...HostID.... B/6 INTR >>> It's picking up the drive then (I tried it as MKA400 too - same result) So I start VAX/VMS 5.4 abd login as SYSTEM... $ initialise mkb400: foo %INIT-F-DRVERR, fatal drive error $ It doesn't run the tape at all when I do this, only when you first put the tape in. The activity LED comes on when you put a tape in, and doesn't flicker. I'm at a loss - could it be it's not 512 byte blocks? If so, can anyone tell me how to change it. I tried it on both SCSI channels, so it shouldn't be a termination issue. Any ideas people? --Matt

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Altos 586

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Richard Erlacher stated as follows: > Joseph Kaye sprach thusly: > > I got an Altos 586 from a friend a while ago, with an external 2400 baud > > modem and a Wyse (50?) terminal. There were no Unix install disks > > included. I am looking to reinstall the OS, does anyone know where I > > could get a copy of the Xenix that it uses? > > Are you sure it uses XENIX? I gave one of these to Will Jennings, along with > the companion tape drive, a couple of years back. Perhaps he can help you. There were Altos' that ran MP/M-II, and others than ran XENIX... ISTR that the 586 was the squarish-box that ran MP/M-II, while the other model that had a hi-techish, Datageneralish look to it ran XENIX. We had both... Regards, -dq

23 years, 6 months

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ICL PERQ

by mikem＠open.com.au

Anyone out there own an ICL Perq? Ive got one in storage, working last time I looked. Seem to be interesting beasts, a small mini with a very early Unix (Release 3), bitmapped display, 'puck' pointing device and a primitive graphical interface. Possibly one of the first bitmapped display Unixes? Anyone have more info or history? Cheers. -- Mike McCauley mikem(a)open.com.au Open System Consultants Pty. Ltd Unix, Perl, Motif, C++, WWW 24 Bateman St Hampton, VIC 3188 Australia http://www.open.com.au Phone +61 3 9598-0985 Fax +61 3 9598-0955 Radiator: the most portable, flexible and configurable RADIUS server anywhere. SQL, proxy, DBM, files, LDAP, NIS+, password, NT, Emerald, Platypus, Freeside, TACACS+, PAM, external, Active Directory etc etc on Unix, Win95/8, 2000, NT, MacOS 9, MacOS X

23 years, 6 months

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Periodic rants on eBay

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 10/25/2001 2:12:40 PM Central Daylight Time, ernestls(a)home.com writes: << -----Original Message----- From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Mike Ford Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:09 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Periodic rants on eBay Love it or hate it, eBay is the most credible source of pricing or value that I know of. Last night, really the past week, I have been digging deeply into the purchases I have made in the last few months, and I found a really cool looking box, HP SureStore 12000e. 10 minutes on the HP site, and I knew all about the buttons on the front, but not what the damn thing WAS. 2 minutes on eBay and I knew I had a nice 48 GB DDS tape array storage thing worth $175 or so, that had drivers for windows etc. that I could download for free (and had the links to do so in the eBay ad). Yes, I agree about ebay being a knowledge base as well as a place to sell. I've learned a lot from browsing through the ads, and it's also a good place to see pictures of items that I'm curious about. Sure, most of the photos are terrible but if all you want to do is see what something looks like, then it's helpful. About pricing though, it gives you a general idea of what something is worth on the open market but it's also very much a hit and miss kind of thing. For example, a while back I saw an Apple 3.5 unidisk drive sell for about $100.00. Suddenly, five more drives appear from various sellers who see that they have a hot item, and in essence the market is then flooded. That causes the price to fall on drives offered after that. So what is the value of one of those drives? Also, the more an items is listed (like an Apple IIe) the better the statistical data becomes. Some will say that the value of an item is exactly what someone will pay for it at a particular time, and that's true but you can also say that generally speaking, an item's approximate value is what people will likely pay for it. An Altair will likely sell for more than $1000 but how much more? If I try to sell an Apple II clone on ebay, one day it will go for $30 and the next it might go for $70.00 depending on who sees it. What is it's approximate value? If I start the auction a $1.00, the bidding might end at $100.00 but if I start it at $30.00, the auction might end at $32.00. >> blech, can we not go into ebay arguments again? If anyone wants to rehash it, go back and reread the archives. All I can say is prices vary widely. I've sold similar junk only have something sell for a high price and then something else go for much lower. People get ebay stupid and will overbid on many things.

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first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ...

by dittman＠dittman.net

> > > XBI E > > > 1+ DWMBA/B (2107) 000A > > > 3+ DMB32 (0109) 0004 > > > 5+ CIBCA-B (0108) 41C2 > > > 6+ TBK70 (410B) 0307 > > DMB32 8 x Serial for terms. Plus a couple of strange parallel ports on a > single 50(?) pin d connector that I have never > found anything compatible with. Someone suggested it was a "Data Products" > Parallel port x 2, whatever that is. > Antonio or Allison, either of you know what you can use with it? I'm not Antonio or Allison, but I can answer this question. The "Data Products" parallel port works with printers with a "Data Products" parallel interface. I've used a couple of different printers with this interface. It's been a while so I can't remember the official name of the interface. The printers I used were made by Data Products and OEMed to other manufacturers (including DEC). > CIBCA-B for speaking to HSC's or other CI equipped Vaxen. If you don't have > a HSC, pull the cards, as some of your error msgs that are confusing the > issue are coming from there. LEave the cab kit in in case you want to put > them back later if you get something that speaks CI. (Caveat: If you do you > MUST have a Star Coupler as well) The CI will work with HSJ controllers as well. I agree that if you don't have a StarCoupler then you'll want to remove the cards. Also, if you do ever get CI storage, be careful with the CI cables. They can't be bent beyond a certain radius or they'll break. Also, if you do get any CI storage (or another node with CI), you may be tempted to directly connect without a StarCoupler. Some people have gotten this to work, but it is not recommended and can cause damage. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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Periodic rants on eBay

by dittman＠dittman.net

> Love it or hate it, eBay is the most credible source of pricing or value > that I know of. Last night, really the past week, I have been digging > deeply into the purchases I have made in the last few months, and I found a > really cool looking box, HP SureStore 12000e. 10 minutes on the HP site, > and I knew all about the buttons on the front, but not what the damn thing > WAS. 2 minutes on eBay and I knew I had a nice 48 GB DDS tape array storage > thing worth $175 or so, that had drivers for windows etc. that I could > download for free (and had the links to do so in the eBay ad). Love it or hate it? I think love-hate is what most people experience. I've found some great deals on eBay, esp. since they added the BuyItNow option. I got an Intraserver dual channel U2W SCSI controller that had the VMS-enabled ROMs for $75 that way. I also got a TZ867 that I upgraded to a DLT4700 for $250 when the product wouldn't sell due to the seller's shipping costs (the seller is local and I picked the item up; original opening bid was $500). The drive included the library cartridge (usually sell for ~$50.00 alone on eBay and four OpenVMS distributions tapes I added to my library). I also find good deals due to typos or odd categories (such as a TKZ60 drive for $5.00; now all I need is a SCSI 9-track drive to cover the media I need to access). -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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MacOS DHCP Server?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

!> > Chris wrote: !> > > >It's easier to find an ethernet card for a !> > > >Mac II than a localtalk card for a PC !> > > !> !> Peter C. Wallace wrote: !> > > hehehe... I have two of them! (localtalk cards for PCs !> > > that is) :-) ! !I have something better than either or both. A Webster Multiport/LT. !It's an ethernet/Appletalk gateway. !Additionally, it does DHCP for Macs on Appletalk or ethernet. !Speaks IPX, (My Appletalk Macs have access to my Netware box, and the !Netware box !queue serves my Laserwriter IIF to the Macs and PC's) ! IP of course and even appears as a DECNET Node!!! etc etc etc. ! !Came out of a $2 bag of cables someone nabbed at auction, !didn't know what the heck it was, and gave it to me. I didn't !know either, but I soon did. Ever surf the net on a Mac Classic !2 in glorious B&W with Netscape 1.1? ! !According to their website, US$1900+ (and all the management !software is free to download :^) !I'm happy...... ! !Cheers ! !Geoff Roberts That's basically all I'm looking to do... I knew I could've used NetBSD, but I figured I'd keep the routing Mac in pretty much the shape it was (could've been?) sold in. That is, MacOS 7.6.1 or some such. Historical purposes, I guess you could call it. Also hoping to keep this as cheap as possible. My budget for this isn't all that big.. :-/ --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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ArcNet and the Pursuit of Multiple Topologies

by tarsi＠binhost.com

Dear all, I've decided that one of my goals is to run every networking topology possible in my house, regardless if I actually NEED to run them or not. :) My plan is to place 1 linux box running a card from each topology in it and use that to bridge all (or almost all) topologies. I currently have running 10bT ethernet, 10b2 ethernet, Localtalk over PhoneNET and the beginnings of Arcnet. In light of such, I have a series of questions: 1) Who knows some stuff about ArcNet? I've gotten 4 cards (8-bit ISA) and a 16-port active hub. I've read somewhere that cards are either hubbable or not. Any other info on that? 2) Anyone have any (I think it is) 93ohm coax arcnet patch cables that they want to get rid of? 3) Anyone got good resources on ThickNET? (10b5 I think it is?) I know it was run back in the day, and I know some precursory things about it (the funky vampire taps, etc.) Anyone have either resources or hardware on this topology that they'd like to share/sell/etc? :) 4) Any other interesting topologies I should try? I have plans to do: Arcnet, FDDI, Token ring, Localtalk, 10b2, 10b5, 10bT, 10bTX, 10bFiber, and (eventually) 802.11b wireless. Thanks folks! Tarsi 210 -- ---------------------------------------------- Homepage: http://tarsi.binhost.com binHOST.com: http://www.binhost.com Forever Beyond: http://www.foreverbeyond.org ----------------------------------------------

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first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ...

by dittman＠dittman.net

> --- Gunther Schadow <gunther(a)aurora.regenstrief.org> wrote: > > - The DMB32 parallel printer is not a Centronics interface. But > > I may actually have a printer to go with it. A BIG thing, not > > heavy but taking up precious space if I put it into my > > basement. > > We used to use an LP25 on our DMF32 (Unibus ancestor of the DMB32). It > was a Dataproduct printer with a DEC badge. I do recall seeing a simple > circuit somewhere involving an inverter or two to attach a Centronics > printer to an LPV11. It shouldn't be a complicated matter to examine > which signals on the DP port are low-true and which ones are low-true > on a "Centronics" port and deduce which handshaking lines need inverted. I seem to remember there was a converter (sold by Black Box, IIRC), but the chances of finding one is pretty slim. You'd be more likely to find a printer. Building your own converter would be the easiest as Ethan suggests. If you can find the manual on the DMB32 it should have the pinouts for the cable, which will make building a converter even easier. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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Classic cmp

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

-----Original Message----- From: Frederick Scholl [mailto:freds@monarch-info.com] HI, I just subscribed to classiccmp.org, but I'm not sure how to use this. I get mail messages now, but how do I respond on the same thread of conversation? Someone in your thread mentioned LocalTalk cards and I am interested in buying TOPS for the PC if anyone has that. It's quite simple... Just hit the "Reply" button in your e-mail reader, and type away. Make sure the address "classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org" is in the "To:" field. Should be automatic... Someone here once said, "The only stupid question is the one not asked" or something like that... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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What people "should" know

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> There is, I'm sure, a place for one-shots, but they've been abused so > often it's > hard to remember what that might have been. > Power on reset - before the clocks have safely started. PONG, an inspired use of monostables. Watchdog timers, sync fail detectors, three shot lockouts .... Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by Star Internet delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Scanning Service. For further information visit http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp or alternatively call Star Internet for details on the Virus Scanning Service.

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MacOS DHCP Server?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Does anyone know if there is a free/share/money-ware program that can turn a Mac into a DHCP server? For use on an older 68k Mac... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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VLB SCSI?

by dittman＠dittman.net

Does anyone have a VLB system that needs a VLB SCSI controllers? I have an Ultrastor 34F and an Adaptec 2842 free, just pay shipping. Otherwise, I'll just toss them. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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3RCC PERQs (was: ICL PERQ)

by rdd＠smart.net

On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Mike McCauley <mikem(a)open.com.au wrote: > Anyone have more info or history? http://www.rddavis.org/rdd/PERQ.html -- Copyright (C) 2001 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)rddavis.net 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.rddavis.net beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

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MacOS DHCP Server?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>It's easier to find an ethernet card for a >Mac II than a localtalk card for a PC hehehe... I have two of them! (localtalk cards for PCs that is) :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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VLB SCSI?

by dittman＠dittman.net

> Shoot..... I've wanted a VLB SCSI card! The Adaptec would have been > perfect. Tell me, is the 2842 wide or narrow? Both of them were narrow. There wasn't a wide 2842. -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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Reading non-PC format floppies

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Tony, with characteristic modesty, said: >I've written programs, sure, but I don't think they're particularly >well-written or elegant programs. They just do the job I need to do. Tony: MICROS~ has what they call "programmers" and they don't get that far. Do I have to win the Indy 500 before I get to be called a "driver", or is it enough if I just make it to the grocery store and back? I'd go ahead and claim credit, were I you. You might say "...not a professional programmer" or "...don't have a formal degree in programming" or even "...not a serious programmer". But if you're able to read kernel sources in order to learn how to successfully use FDRAWCMD, I'd call you a programmer. Sellam: I humbly suggest that more exact forms of expression, at least in international public forums, might avert misunderstandings. - Mark

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What people "should" know

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Here here! One-shots are fine for pule shortening or stretching so long as it's non-critical. Worst abuse, Altair 8800 front pannel. One of the best designs that use a oneshot was the PERCOM Cassette board, it was a digitial oneshot and predictable. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 9:12 PM Subject: Re: What people "should" know >That's why it's been common practice to fire anyone who uses one-shots >(monostables) for anything. I personally believe it should go beyond that, in >that the perpetartor of such a heinous crim should be barred from asserting his >credentials as a circuit designer for a short period, of, say, 10 decades.

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Reading non-PC format floppies

by jdonogh1＠prodigy.net

Any tools for reading non-PC 5 1/4" HD floppies out there? Tried reading them with DOS DEBUG, get 'Data Error'.

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first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ...

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

OK, the default boot device (a SET option) is either dead or not found. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Gunther Schadow <gunther(a)aurora.regenstrief.org> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 12:19 PM Subject: Re: first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ... >Geoff Roberts wrote: > >> Hmm, Unit 0 has an excellent chance of being a system disk, but possible it >> was >> initialised prior to being retired. What's the exact error msg (console dump >> is good) > >I don't have the console dump on that, but the only error message >I recollect was: > >?3 Device I/O Error (or something very similar.) > >Would that be the appropriate response on an RA90 drive with >wiped-out media? My drive completed all tests, including the >spun-down and the spun-up tests (the latter includes disk >access tests.) > >> Tapes are probably sus. TK70's are the least reliable component of a 6000, >> but are still pretty reliable compared to the TK50. > >yack! > >> > I also have a TU81+ and VMS bootable tape on 9-track, maybe that's more >> reliable? >> >> Very likely, do you have the companion card for the TU81+ (KLESI-B) to go in >> the Vax? >> They TU81+ is not SDI, so it won't even plug in to the KDB50. If all else >> fails I can probably whip >> up a tape for you on ours. > >Instructions on how to write an Ultrix tape from VMS would >be cool. I'm sure I can get VMS up. What is the least >amount of knowledge that I need to get a VMS system up >in single user mode and try a couple of SDI accesses, >try reading a TK and writing to a TU? > > >> Not very familiar with Ultrix though I gather it's also possible to mop boot >> an ultrix box from a vms one, though I don't think it will do vice versa. > >It definitely is as the source code says. I'll use my FreeBSD >laptop as the boot host. Monitoring with tcpdump is a good way >of debugging network booting. > >Attached below you'll find annotated console dumps from my >yesterday's attempts (thanks to xterm :-) > >My comments are lines starting with "GS>" > >GS> I have swapped in another TK70 drive (one that may be less worn) >GS> and now I turn on the machine: > >#123456789 0123456789 0123456789 01234567# > >F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # > A A . A M M M M P P P P P P >TYP > o o . + + + + + + + + + + + >STF > . . . . . . . . E E E E E B >BPD > . . . . . . . . + + + + + + >ETF > . . . . . . . . E E E E E B >BPD > > >. . . . . . . . . + . . + + + . XBI D >+ >. . . . . . . . . + + . + . + . XBI E >+ > > . . . . A4 A3 A2 A1 . . . . . . >ILV > . . . . 128 128 128 128 . . . . . . 512 >Mb > >ROM0 = V4.00 ROM1 = V4.00 EEPROM = 2.03/4.02 SN = AG94408887 > > >>>> SHOW ALL > Type Rev > 1+ KA64A (8082) 000D > 2+ KA64A (8082) 000D > 3+ KA64A (8082) 000D > 4+ KA64A (8082) 000D > 5+ KA64A (8082) 000D > 6+ KA64A (8082) 000D > 7+ MS65A (4001) 0084 > 8+ MS65A (4001) 0084 > 9+ MS65A (4001) 0084 > A+ MS65A (4001) 0084 > B+ KDM70 (0C22) 2811 > D+ DWMBA/A (2001) 0002 > E+ DWMBA/A (2001) 0002 > > XBI D > 1+ DWMBA/B (2107) 000A > 2+ KLESI-B (0103) 0006 > 3+ KDB50 (010E) 142C > 6+ DEBNI (0118) 0400 > > XBI E > 1+ DWMBA/B (2107) 000A > 3+ DMB32 (0109) 0004 > 5+ CIBCA-B (0108) 41C2 > 6+ TBK70 (410B) 0307 > Current Primary: 1 > /NOENABLED- > /NOVECTOR_ENABLED- > /NOPRIMARY- >F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # > . . . . A4 A3 A2 A1 . . . . . . >ILV > . . . . 128 128 128 128 . . . . . . 512 >Mb > /INTERLEAVE:DEFAULT > /SCOPE /SPEED: 9600 /BREAK > English > XMI:D BI:6 08-00-2B-34-A5-CA > DEFAULT /XMI:E /BI:6 CSA1 > TAPE /XMI:E /BI:6 CSA1 > ETH0 /XMI:D /BI:6 ET0 >SHOW DSSI is not yet implemented > >GS> Now I have loaded the VMS 6.1 stand alone backup TK70 and go: > >>>> BOOT /XMI:E /BI:6 CSA1 >Initializing system. > >#123456789 0123456789 0123456789 01234567# > >F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # > A A . A M M M M P P P P P P >TYP > o o . + + + + + + + + + + + >STF > . . . . . . . . E E E E E B >BPD > . . . . . . . . + + + + + + >ETF > . . . . . . . . E E E E E B >BPD > > >. . . . . . . . . + . . + + + . XBI D >+ >. . . . . . . . . + + . + . + . XBI E >+ > > . . . . A4 A3 A2 A1 . . . . . . >ILV > . . . . 128 128 128 128 . . . . . . 512 >Mb > >ROM0 = V4.00 ROM1 = V4.00 EEPROM = 2.03/4.02 SN = AG94408887 > > >Loading system software. > > OpenVMS VAX Version V6.1 Major version id = 1 Minor version id = >0c >PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM) 23-OCT-2001 > >Configuring devices . . . > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 49 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >GS> oops, what is %PAA0? Something is bad, but what? >GS> as you might expect, it gives above error message for each >GS> retry 48, 47, 46, ... will not show those here. But there >GS> is also other stuff, as if I'm already running multi-tasked. > >Now configuring HSC, RF, and MSCP-served devices . . . > >GS> and on with the %PAA0 reinitializations down to 24 > >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 24 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > >Please check the names of the devices which have been configured, >to make sure that ALL remote devices which you intend to use have >been configured. > >If any device does not show up, please take action now to make it >available. > >GS> in a hurry I power up the RA90 hooked to the KDB50 and >spin it up > >Available device MUC6: device type TK70 >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 23 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > >GS> ... > >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 9 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 8 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 7 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 6 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 5 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 4 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 3 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 2 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 1 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is Reinitializing ( 0 Retries Left). Check the Error Log. > >%PAA0, Port Error Bit(s) Set - CNF/PMC/PSR 00000000/00000020/00008280 > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: >%PAA0, Port is going Offline. > > >Enter "YES" when all needed devices are available: yes >%BACKUP-I-IDENT, Stand-alone BACKUP V6.1; the date is 23-OCT-2001 >00:03:52.13 >$ > >GS> yea! a prompt! we made it. But what's next? > >$ help >%CLI-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling > \HELP\ > >GS> ah I give up, I want to see Ultrix up, may be that new >GS> drive did it? Hit the reset button, system initializes >GS> same as above, swap in the Ultrix TK and go: > >>>> BOOT /XMI:E /BI:6 CSA1 >Initializing system. > >#123456789 0123456789 0123456789 01234567# > >F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # > A A . A M M M M P P P P P P >TYP > o o . + + + + + + + + + + + >STF > . . . . . . . . E E E E E B >BPD > . . . . . . . . + + + + + + >ETF > . . . . . . . . E E E E E B >BPD > > >. . . . . . . . . + . . + + + . XBI D >+ >. . . . . . . . . + + . + . + . XBI E >+ > > > . . . . A4 A3 A2 A1 . . . . . . >ILV > . . . . 128 128 128 128 . . . . . . 512 >Mb > >ROM0 = V4.00 ROM1 = V4.00 EEPROM = 2.03/4.02 SN = AG94408887 > > >Loading system software. >%BOOT-F-Insufficient memory for CI >?06 Halt instruction executed in kernel mode. > PC = 0000040Fc > SAVPSL = 041F0600 > ISP = 00000200 > >Bootstrap failed due to previous error. >>>> > > >GS> this is that CI problem. Now I turn off machine again and >GS> remove CI cards. I do have HSC90s to go with it and I definitely >GS> want to run CI, but for now I'll start easy. So, power up >GS> again. Wait for one initialization again, then: > >>>> BOOT /XMI:E /BI:6 CSA1 >Initializing system. > >#123456789 0123456789 0123456789 01234567# > >F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # > A A . A M M M M P P P P P P >TYP > o o . + + + + + + + + + + + >STF > . . . . . . . . E E E E E B >BPD > . . . . . . . . + + + + + + >ETF > . . . . . . . . E E E E E B >BPD > > >. . . . . . . . . + . . + . + . XBI D >+ >. . . . . . . . . + . . + + + . XBI E >+ > > . . . . A4 A3 A2 A1 . . . . . . >ILV > . . . . 128 128 128 128 . . . . . . 512 >Mb > >ROM0 = V4.00 ROM1 = V4.00 EEPROM = 2.03/4.02 SN = AG94408887 > > >Loading system software. > >?06 Halt instruction executed in kernel mode. > PC = 00280200c > SAVPSL = 041F0600 > ISP = 00280000 > >Bootstrap failed due to previous error. >>>> > >GS> here ends my console dump. > >If it weren't for the many heavy items I still have to >shuffle, disassemble, lift and reassemble, I could go mad >about the Ultrix folks who have neglected to put >some explanatory printf into the boot code before >the halt call. It could be so much easier if we knew what >the problem is. > >thanks, >-Gunther > >-- >Gunther_Schadow-------------------------------http://aurora.rg.iupui.edu >Regenstrief Institute for Health Care >1050 Wishard Blvd., Indianapolis IN 46202, Phone: (317) 630 7960 >schadow(a)aurora.rg.iupui.edu------------------#include <usual/disclaimer>

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MacOS DHCP Server?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >At one time, you could download trial versions of the package. > >Additionally, if you hunt around, you'll find the magix needed > >to make the evaluation period last a very, very long time. ;-) > > Although, lots of people use and love Vicom's SoftRouter (I think that is > the name it is going by now)... I would like to point out that last I > knew, it uses its own TCP/IP stack, and not Apple's OpenTransport. The > Vicom stack has been known to provide incompatibility with some software > that wants to use OpenTransport. I have also heard that Vicom's is more > unstable in general (but I guess that might be dependant on what version > of OpenTransport you compare it to, as early versions of OT were very > unstable in their own right). This might have changed by now, but I would > confirm it before buying. Yes, it does use it's own TCP/IP stack, but one which co-exists peacefully with Open Transport... it's not like you've got to drop back down to Classic Networking... We never had any stability problems. However, it does not pass GRE(47) packets, so you can't form a VPN connection through one. > And then just to give a plug to Sustainable Softworks... their > IPNetRouter product does everything Vicom's does (and more I believe), > and is priced pretty much the same ($49 for 68k only, $79 for PPC and > 68k). I don't have any connection with Sustainable Softworks, I am just a > VERY VERY satisfied customer (I put them as the #1 best company I have > ever had to deal with). Nice price, Chris; I'd say, David, go with it! -dq

23 years, 6 months

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More free ISA/VME cards

by pcw＠mesanet.com

Maybe someone would like these for shipping charges. Hate to just toss em. ISA Q DESC 2 D-A cards 2X 12 bit analog out ? 1 D-A ADC card 2x12 bit D-A + maybe 8 chan 12 bit A-D ? 1 localtalk card ? 1 SCSI adapter Adaptec 1522A 2 SCSI adapter Adaptec 1540C 1 SCSI adapter Adaptec 1540B 1 SCSI adapter Adaptec 1542CF VME Q DESC 2 AB Creonics MCC 2 axis servo motor controller 1 Data translation DA -- ADC 12 bit DT1408 1 Teckint opto-isolated I/O card TVM 744 Misc Q DESC 6 OMTI SCSI/MFM disk controller model 310x 1 Columbia Data Products looks like MFM HDC has Z80 + 64K RAM + MFM disk interface PN 10805-D Peter Wallace

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first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ...

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Among all the fanning and blowing and spinning, the disk >seek can be pretty faint. No, I did not hear the disk >seeking and it all went suspiciously quick. I may My recollection of RA9x drives is that when you transition them to RUN (either by hitting the button or as a result of host action) they is a clear "thunk". >not have proper connection between KDB50 and disk. The >disk shows both ports A and B enabled, and I'm connected >only to A. Is there any ordering of the 4 ports on the >KDB50 bulkhead that I need to know to get it right? The order of the 4 KDB50 connections is essentially meaningless. It certainly does not determine device naming or whatever. The A/B port stuff also matters very little. If your KDB50 is connected to port A, then port A needs to be enabled and B is irrelevant. Or vice versa. Antonio

23 years, 6 months

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Adventure in Ersatz-11

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

If I'd seem the message I'd have told you most of the PDP-11 games that eat memory run under the RT-11 SJ monitor. Advent is definately one. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Gooijen H <GOOI(a)oce.nl> To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:32 AM Subject: RE: Adventure in Ersatz-11 >Stupid that I did not think of trying SJ. >With SJ entering .R ADVENT starts Adventure also! >I assumed that VBG was for Virtual BackGround, so >nice to be comfirmed on that. >Indeed, I have E11 running on an 486DX2/66, but I >cannot give an idea of how fast it runs, compared >to a PDP-11. Although E11 can be set to an 11/70, >I have set it to /35-40 because that is also the >*real* hardware I have. Never set it to /34(A) or >to /44. Both those systems I also have running. >Next time that I start the 11/35 I will run ADVENT >on both of them and measure the time until the >welcome message appears on the screen. > >For the "blinkenlights" check out my webpage. >http://home.hetnet.nl/~tshaj/pdpsite/pdpstartpage.html > >then click in the left pane on the link Homebrew 'PDP-11'. >At this moment only the LEDs of the data bus blink. >I hope to add a piece of hardware that 'talks' to Ersatz-11 >so that the address bus LEDs are also active *and* that the >switches function as on the real thing. The goal is that >the hardware design can facilitate *any* real PDP-11 console >that has switches and lights, from an 11/10 to an 11/70. >Of course, this project needs the cooperation of John Wilson, >and I had already some preliminary contacts with him. >He also likes the option to connect a real console to the >demo(!) version of Ersatz-11. > >-Henk. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jerome Fine [mailto:jhfine@idirect.com] >> Sent: woensdag 24 oktober 2001 0:41 >> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >> Subject: Re: Adventure in Ersatz-11 >> >> >> >Gooijen H wrote: >> >> > Yes !! >> >> Jerome Fine replies: >> >> Thank you for the feed back. I was not sure how much memory >> ADVENT requires. You might also try: >> BOOT RT11SJ >> if you wish. >> >> > Thanks very much, Jerome. >> > Booting RT-11FB and then running ADVENT still produces >> > the "Insufficient memory" fatal error. >> > However, VBGEXE works fine ! >> > After the "Welcome to Adventure!! Would you like instructions?" >> > and entering 'YES", it goes: Somewhere nearby is Colossal Cave, >> > etc. >> > This means that I am now going to play Adventure. This has a >> > serious drawback on the expansion of my website ... >> > I am playing it on my "homebrew-PDP" with the BLINKENLIGHTS on!! >> > On my website this project (early phase) has a separate link. >> > BTW. What is VBGEXE, what do the letters stand for? >> > Thanks again, >> > Henk. >> >> "EXEcute Virtual BackGround program" is how I think of the letters >> with the understanding that the word EXEcute is then switched >> to the end. >> >> A few points worth noting. >> >> (a) If FOO.SAV requires any arguments as in: >> "RUN DEV:FOO.SAV arguments" or replace RUN with VBGEXE, >> then they must be on the same line. The alternative is the >> put all three >> parts of the command on separate lines. Otherwise, with just >> "VBGEXE DEV:FOO.SAV" on the first line, somehow the request >> for information expects the arguments to already be there and if not, >> just exits. Entering: >> VBGEXE >> DEV:FOO.SAV >> arguments >> on three separate lines works as well. >> >> (b) The command: >> SRUN VBGEXE.SAV/TERMINAL:n/LEVEL:m/NAME:utility >> also works very well when you want to run a system job at a >> higher priority. >> TERMINAL is only useful with a system that has multi-terminal support >> LEVEL specifies the system job number ( 1=>6 ) >> NAME can be used to automatically select an executable file >> called SY:utility.SAV >> One minor problem is that if name is omitted, then only ONE >> instance of >> VBGEXE can be invoked as a system job since the high memory >> GRCBs (Global >> Region Control Blocks) must all have different names. I have >> a small patch >> with allows the user to do the command: >> SRUN VBGEXE.SAV/TERMINAL:n/LEVEL:m/NAME:VBGEXm >> If that is done, each GRCB is given the name VBGEXm making them all >> different. This means that no program can have the name VBGEX(1=>6), >> a restriction that I assume can be lived with. >> >> I also remember that modifying TECO to be named VMUNG so that >> "VBGEXE VMUNG arguments" >> would work the same as >> "MUNG arguments" >> but use the full 64 KBytes allowed by VBGEXE. >> >> By the way, I assume that you are using E11 on a PC. Which hardware >> and how fast do you find that the code runs compared to any >> real PDP-11 >> hardware. Plus, I can't remember about the "BLINKENLIGHTS" - what >> did you do to have those available? >> >> Sincerely yours, >> >> Jerome Fine >> >> > >

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value of classic DEC machines?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

My understand of PDP-1s is that if there are 10 left it's a lot. the only two I know of was the BCM Machine and one up in Whitehorse {or was it Yellowknife} running Log/wood mill accounting system. Allison -----Original Message----- From: John Allain <allain(a)panix.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:16 AM Subject: Re: value of classic DEC machines? >>> Now a PDP-1 would certainly be worth 100KUS$, > >>..to a collector who had US$100K to throw away and >> absolutely HAS to have the first PDP-1... > >Worth, Costs, Is Valued at... all highly relativistic concepts >don't you think? > >What about history? My book says that only 50 PDP-1's >were produced. Almost certainly 50%++ were scrapped. >Anybody know where all the PDP-1's are? I'd like to see >one (or more). > >John A. > > >BTW, on thread. A good clean runnung PDP-11 with SW >and docs can fetch over $4K, to the original question. > >John A. > >

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electronics/computer surplus in Virginia?

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

Does anyone know of any electronics / computer surplus and/or computer / electronics recycling companies in the greater Portsmouth - Norfolk - Virginia Beach - Suffolk - Chesapeake, Virginia area? Thanks, Brian =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _| _| _| Brian Knittel / Quarterbyte Systems, Inc. _| _| _| Tel: 1-510-559-7930 Fax: 1-510-525-6889 _| _| _| Email: brian(a)quarterbyte.com _| _| _| http://www.quarterbyte.com

23 years, 6 months

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Caddy for one DEC-RDD40 external cdrom unit

by CAA007216＠mail.ono.es

Hello. Do anyone has one Caddy for one DEC-RDD40 external cdrom unit ? Mine starts and is detected but need this item to work. Thanks Sergio Pedraja

23 years, 6 months

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John Boffemmyer's SOL

by vance＠ikickass.org

It's a SOL-20. I just checked. (His SOL is in my storage locker.) Peace... Sridhar

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Ken Slusser

by aek＠spies.com

> > Dear Sir > > I have a 1000 sq. ft warehouse full of used DEC pdp and pre IBM p.c. > > equipment / manuals / spares etc. > > I need someone to help me get rid of all of it. I realize it has some > > value on Ebay but my lease has run out and I need to recover some of my > > costs ASAP. > > I am in California on the central coast. > > Any suggestions. -- I talked to Ken this afternoon. He needs 3-4K to cover the back rent on the storage and is looking for someone to take all this stuff and sell it on eBay for him. He thinks it's worth $100000 I may go down there on Friday to see what's there assuming he can find the item that he says he has that I'm looking for.

23 years, 6 months

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QD21 ESDI

by matt＠knm.yi.org

Hi, I just got an Emulex QD21 (thanks iseldure! I've got $10 here for you for postage) and I've been playing with it, with some Maxtor XT-4380E drives. I'm managing alright to a point. I downloaded docs for the QD21, set dip switches and I can get into the controller's firmware. The problem arises when it comes to do things with the disks. If I tell the controller the disk is type 2, then it picks up settings from the drive fine (and they even co-relate with the drive), but any operations I perform on the drive after that (even "Show known devices") times out. I tried selecting the format option. If I set the drive as type 2 and let it pick up setting from the drive, it times out the operation before reading the media defect list. If I set the drive as type 1, and punch in the settings from the QD21 docs for the Maxtor XT-4380E, then it starts formatting, then after a couple of minutes of activity, the drive makes some noises (which I don't think sound healthy) then times out again. I only have one data cable, and if I just use the one drive (which appears to be terminated) then nothing appears to work - things just time out. If I hook up another drive and change drive IDs, then I can perform the format operation as defined above. Needless to say, I'm a little stumped. The controller is in an MV3300, but I've not got VMS working on there ATM, so I'm not sure about configuring an interupt vector for it. If it's any help to people, I can get listings from the console, it's just not particularly easy as I don't have a serial cable to hook the vax to my PC with me, only the vt420. I don't really know ESDI, and I'm not that familiar with QBus - only some details, ordering of cards, etc. Any thoughts welcome :&) --Matt

23 years, 6 months

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MacOS DHCP Server?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

David A Woyciesjes was found to ask thusly: > > Does anyone know if there is a free/share/money-ware program that > can turn a Mac into a DHCP server? For use on an older 68k Mac... Yeah, sort-of, if you can find it. Vicom Technologies (www.vicomtech.com) has a product that's undergone a few name changes and feature orgies. Originally named "Vicom Internet Gateway", then "Vicom Soft Router", and maybe back to the original name... it's a software-based NAT router. It includes a built-in DHCP server. It wasn't expensive... it came bundled with Applshare IP 5.0, and when we finally purchased a cross-platform upgrade, that was either US$29 or US$79. At one time, you could download trial versions of the package. Additionally, if you hunt around, you'll find the magix needed to make the evaluation period last a very, very long time. ;-) hth, -doug q

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first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ...

by pjschilling＠gcstech.net

Gunther, Appreciate the info, get my end done and hope the electricians aren't too far off for moving the 220's to where I need them. Thanks again. Phil -----Original Message----- From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Gunther Schadow Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:37 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ... Phil, I did convert to 220 single. I made my own reference along the way. Here goes: http://aurora.rg.iupui.edu/~schadow/VAX/power.txt regards, -Gunther Phil Schilling wrote: > > Gunther, > Slightly off your topic, but did you convert the power to 220 single phase > on your 6000? If so exactly which reference did you follow. I need to set > up both my 6000 and the drive array for single phase so I can get them fired > up. Thanks > > Phil Schilling > GCS Tech > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Gunther Schadow > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:02 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org; port-vax(a)netbsd.org > Subject: first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ... > > Hi, > > after my pretty good VAX treck last weekend (more details coming > up on my project web site at a later time) I finally have SDI disks. > I hooked one up last night and did all the checking as per the > RA9x manual (yes I have one plus many more, will scan those at > some time...) and it seems to be O.K. (even though it was pretty > messed up stored in a barn among lots of birds for many years). > > Here is one para about where I am at and then I have some > specific questions for Geoff Roberts or Ragge or anyone who > has had experienced any luck with getting a 6000 up to operation. > > I have bootable tape for Ultrix 4.1 and VMS 5.3 both TK50. None > of them work. I seem to have no luck with the TK70 and I have > no way finding out what's wrong. I tried to boot from that RA90 > disk, even though I don't know what's on it. It has unit #0, so > I thought it might be a system disk. But that too failed with > some I/O error very early in the process. I also have a TU81+ and > VMS bootable tape on 9-track, maybe that's more reliable? Tonight's > project is to move the TU81+ into the basement and hook it up. > I'm afraid I'll get stuck there too and what then? Network > booting? > > Here's some more detail and questions: > > The TK50 boot proceeds for quite a while, although it never shows > any message on the console about where it is at before it halts > due to some unspecified error. However, about one or two minutes > into the tape running the system-panel's FAULT light comes on and > at the same time both yellow and green LEDs on the TKB70 board > extinguish. That's for about a second or two. Then the lights > go back to normal and the fault light turned off. Another 30 > seconds to a minute tape streaming and the same light-spiel happens > again: fault on, TKB70 LEDs off, and back to normal. Now a shorter > time (like 10 seconds) of tape streaming and again. From now on that > repeats for about 4 or 5 more cycles and finally the system is > halted and console says: system halted due to previous error. > However, no error message is being printed. I have no idea where > I am in the process. > > I have tried cleaning the TK70 read/write head of course. I have > tried a different copy of that Ultrix tape. It's always the same. > > Is this bliking of fault and shutting off of both TBK70 LEDs > normal for media read errors or does it indicate something more > serious? How can I tell where in the process I am? Is there an > error flag somewhere in memory that I could EXAMINE to find out > what is wrong? > > BTW: at first I had my CIBCA cards in and the boot process would > halt earlier: system would say "insufficient memory for CI" and > "10% or more of the memory is bad". Who is checking memory there? > I could not find anything in Ultrix 4.2 sources that would generate > such a message. And why would it anyway, because my system check > tells me that I have 512 MB of memory OK. Or does it speak of > 10% of the CIBCA's internal memory? > > Is there a boot flag that I could turn on that would cause the > loader etc. to be more verbose? > > Has anyone tried booting Ultrix over the network? I am going to > try that but all I have is Ultrix on TK50 (that doesn't work) > and sources without any VAX running to compile them on. Is there > a cross compiler suite? I'd like to compile with the DEBUG > flag set. > > Thanks for your suggestions, > -Gunther > > -- > Gunther_Schadow-------------------------------http://aurora.rg.iupui.edu > Regenstrief Institute for Health Care > 1050 Wishard Blvd., Indianapolis IN 46202, Phone: (317) 630 7960 > schadow(a)aurora.rg.iupui.edu------------------#include <usual/disclaimer> -- Gunther_Schadow-------------------------------http://aurora.rg.iupui.edu Regenstrief Institute for Health Care 1050 Wishard Blvd., Indianapolis IN 46202, Phone: (317) 630 7960 schadow(a)aurora.rg.iupui.edu------------------#include <usual/disclaimer>

23 years, 6 months

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MacOS DHCP Server?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Yeah, sort-of, if you can find it. > >Vicom Technologies (www.vicomtech.com) has a product that's >undergone a few name changes and feature orgies. Originally >named "Vicom Internet Gateway", then "Vicom Soft Router", and >maybe back to the original name... it's a software-based NAT >router. It includes a built-in DHCP server. > >It wasn't expensive... it came bundled with Applshare IP 5.0, >and when we finally purchased a cross-platform upgrade, that >was either US$29 or US$79. > >At one time, you could download trial versions of the package. >Additionally, if you hunt around, you'll find the magix needed >to make the evaluation period last a very, very long time. ;-) Although, lots of people use and love Vicom's SoftRouter (I think that is the name it is going by now)... I would like to point out that last I knew, it uses its own TCP/IP stack, and not Apple's OpenTransport. The Vicom stack has been known to provide incompatibility with some software that wants to use OpenTransport. I have also heard that Vicom's is more unstable in general (but I guess that might be dependant on what version of OpenTransport you compare it to, as early versions of OT were very unstable in their own right). This might have changed by now, but I would confirm it before buying. And then just to give a plug to Sustainable Softworks... their IPNetRouter product does everything Vicom's does (and more I believe), and is priced pretty much the same ($49 for 68k only, $79 for PPC and 68k). I don't have any connection with Sustainable Softworks, I am just a VERY VERY satisfied customer (I put them as the #1 best company I have ever had to deal with). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 6 months

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kalpana

by freds＠monarch-info.com

I am looking for a Kalpana etherswitch, model EPS-700. Anyone know where to get this? Fred Scholl

23 years, 6 months

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List Maintenance

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 23, 16:35, Iggy Drougge wrote: > Mike Ford skrev: > >Just for laughs I made a search just now of my email address > >mikeford(a)socal.rr.com, and I got 233 hits via the Google usenet group > >search. I really honestly only get maybe 5 bits of spam a day, and 80% of > >those I know I foolishly signed up for at some time recently. Have you > >spamphobs ever considered that maybe you get a lot of spam because you mung > >your email address, or that you don't have a profile in any spam databanks? > I did a Google Groups search as well, and got over 10 000 hits on my address. > Perhaps is one subjected to spam because one is an active netizen? Well, I just tried a Google Groups search, for comparison, and got 14 hits. I got 1020 from a straight Google (web) search, the majority from ClassicCmp (at least amongst the first few screenfuls). I don't especially like munged addresses either, but providing it's obvious (and obvious how to undo the obfuscation) I think it may be a necessary evil at times. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ...

by pjschilling＠gcstech.net

Gunther, Slightly off your topic, but did you convert the power to 220 single phase on your 6000? If so exactly which reference did you follow. I need to set up both my 6000 and the drive array for single phase so I can get them fired up. Thanks Phil Schilling GCS Tech -----Original Message----- From: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:owner-classiccmp@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Gunther Schadow Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:02 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org; port-vax(a)netbsd.org Subject: first step getting VAX 6000-400 booted ... Hi, after my pretty good VAX treck last weekend (more details coming up on my project web site at a later time) I finally have SDI disks. I hooked one up last night and did all the checking as per the RA9x manual (yes I have one plus many more, will scan those at some time...) and it seems to be O.K. (even though it was pretty messed up stored in a barn among lots of birds for many years). Here is one para about where I am at and then I have some specific questions for Geoff Roberts or Ragge or anyone who has had experienced any luck with getting a 6000 up to operation. I have bootable tape for Ultrix 4.1 and VMS 5.3 both TK50. None of them work. I seem to have no luck with the TK70 and I have no way finding out what's wrong. I tried to boot from that RA90 disk, even though I don't know what's on it. It has unit #0, so I thought it might be a system disk. But that too failed with some I/O error very early in the process. I also have a TU81+ and VMS bootable tape on 9-track, maybe that's more reliable? Tonight's project is to move the TU81+ into the basement and hook it up. I'm afraid I'll get stuck there too and what then? Network booting? Here's some more detail and questions: The TK50 boot proceeds for quite a while, although it never shows any message on the console about where it is at before it halts due to some unspecified error. However, about one or two minutes into the tape running the system-panel's FAULT light comes on and at the same time both yellow and green LEDs on the TKB70 board extinguish. That's for about a second or two. Then the lights go back to normal and the fault light turned off. Another 30 seconds to a minute tape streaming and the same light-spiel happens again: fault on, TKB70 LEDs off, and back to normal. Now a shorter time (like 10 seconds) of tape streaming and again. From now on that repeats for about 4 or 5 more cycles and finally the system is halted and console says: system halted due to previous error. However, no error message is being printed. I have no idea where I am in the process. I have tried cleaning the TK70 read/write head of course. I have tried a different copy of that Ultrix tape. It's always the same. Is this bliking of fault and shutting off of both TBK70 LEDs normal for media read errors or does it indicate something more serious? How can I tell where in the process I am? Is there an error flag somewhere in memory that I could EXAMINE to find out what is wrong? BTW: at first I had my CIBCA cards in and the boot process would halt earlier: system would say "insufficient memory for CI" and "10% or more of the memory is bad". Who is checking memory there? I could not find anything in Ultrix 4.2 sources that would generate such a message. And why would it anyway, because my system check tells me that I have 512 MB of memory OK. Or does it speak of 10% of the CIBCA's internal memory? Is there a boot flag that I could turn on that would cause the loader etc. to be more verbose? Has anyone tried booting Ultrix over the network? I am going to try that but all I have is Ultrix on TK50 (that doesn't work) and sources without any VAX running to compile them on. Is there a cross compiler suite? I'd like to compile with the DEBUG flag set. Thanks for your suggestions, -Gunther -- Gunther_Schadow-------------------------------http://aurora.rg.iupui.edu Regenstrief Institute for Health Care 1050 Wishard Blvd., Indianapolis IN 46202, Phone: (317) 630 7960 schadow(a)aurora.rg.iupui.edu------------------#include <usual/disclaimer>

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value of classic DEC machines?

by spedraja＠ono.com

>> BTW, on thread. A good clean runnung PDP-11 with SW >> and docs can fetch over $4K, to the original question. I ever wanted to get one VAX/11 730 like one that we had in my old Computing Courses school and, related with it, a couple of PDP systems, compounding all of them a little network. My hope was that these machines some day could be only trash stuff and this could be the way to get one. In the actual day I only have one PDP-11/23 PLUS that works but only has 256 Kb. of memory, and a diverse stuff that can be connected to it but needs some more additional stuff like a rack support, some boards and cables. Almost everything I need mustbe purchased. A few months ago this appears to be cheap and quick, but not now. And some items destinated to enhance the machine appears very far and expensive, like one expansion memory of 4 megabytes, or one good SCSI board. Of course, I try to don't think anymore in obtain one VAX/11 in any way, or one PDP/11 70 or 44. Even one that I could obtain in UK was cancelled because any transport agency wanted to transport it to my country. And my city even have one regular ferry line with the UK every week !! (this was bad luck, I recognize). In this context, one cause or another can do that one machine like one PDP-11/70 grows in its value until incredible limits. In fact, I check the eBay bidders many times and I see a lot of auctions are bidded and even winned by people with very few (or 0) feedback. Computer collectors matures ? I don't think so. Greetings Sergio

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Caddy for one DEC-RDD40 external cdrom unit

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> SP [mailto:spedraja@ono.com] > I'm in Spain, Antonio, in the North (Santander). > > Thanks. Your option appears to be the better and less > expensive, if you permit to me the comment :-) > I'll pack one up and try and work out postage on Monday (I'm away from the office after today). I'll let you know how much it is then, if you're still keen and noone else finds one nearer to you. If you can supply a working email address (the one above just bounced ...) then I can talk to you without bothering the rest of the list :-) Antonio arcarlini(a)iee.org

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ISA cards for free...

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

>Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:13:58 -0700 >From: Geoff Reed <geoffr(a)zipcon.net> >Subject: Re: ISA cards for free... >At 09:21 AM 10/23/01 -0400, you wrote: >>Hello all, >> >>Cleanout time again... I have the following ISA cards available for cost of >>postage only. These cards were part of a lot I picked up just for the two >>Compaticard II cards that were in the pile :-). > >You lucky bastige :) Yup, but it's the law of affinity. I bought a nice Compaticard IV (thanks Don!), but have yet to get it working with my 8" drives (no tech problems, just too busy). Then I found a Compaticard II on eBay for a decent price, then I found these two in another lot from eBay. One of them is odd in the sense that it has a D-connector out the back (37 pin, I think), but no internal 34-pin header for a floppy cable. It doesn't look modified, so I think it came from the factory that way.... Weird. Also, EVERYONE wants the SCSI cards, so I'll be putting names in a hat... I'll wait a day and then draw straws :-) Rich B.

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Caddy for one DEC-RDD40 external cdrom unit

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Indeed, caddies for the RRD40 are not easy to find. At least over here in The Netherlands. I have a DECstation 3100 with Storage Expansion and RRD40, but I am also still looking for at least one caddy as I do not have any (yet). - Henk.

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Caddy for one DEC-RDD40 external cdrom unit

by spedraja＠ono.com

I'm in Spain, Antonio, in the North (Santander). Thanks. Your option appears to be the better and less expensive, if you permit to me the comment :-) Greetings Sergio -----Mensaje original----- De: Carlini, Antonio <Antonio.Carlini(a)riverstonenet.com> Para: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Fecha: mi?rcoles, 24 de octubre de 2001 16:57 Asunto: RE: Caddy for one DEC-RDD40 external cdrom unit >John Allain [mailto:allain@panix.com] >> I have spares for the '42. if they're the same as the '40 you >> can have one. I think they're Very common. I don't think >> I've seen a caddied CDROM drive that Doesn't use this >> type of caddy. > >The RRD42 is (IIRC) a Sony unit (possibly >with modified firmware). It takes >a "standard" caddy. > >The RRD40 is a much older Philips(?) >CD-ROM (1x) and it takes a caompletely >different form of CD holder (often >referred to as "antlers"). > >FWIW: the RRD43 is a tray-loader and >the RRD44 is back to a caddy. The >first DEC CDROM drive was the RRD50, which >was essentially a tabletop, caddyless >(flip open the top and load CD) >RRD40 (except, I believe, *slower*!!). > >I have at least one RRD40 CD holder, >which I can supply if noone nearer >can dig one up (I'm in the UK). > > >Antonio

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Caddy for one DEC-RDD40 external cdrom unit

by spedraja＠ono.com

>> Do anyone has one Caddy for one DEC-RDD40 external >> cdrom unit ? > >I have spares for the '42. if they're the same as the '40 you >can have one. I think they're Very common. I don't think >I've seen a caddied CDROM drive that Doesn't use this >type of caddy. This caddy don't appears to be the usual caddy that most common CDROM's used. I have one of these and don't go well. The entry ranure of the CD device is more THIN than the others, and this don't work. It can be too a problem of my caddies: I have two NEC caddies to probe, and any of it works. Greetings Sergio

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Adventure in Ersatz-11

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Stupid that I did not think of trying SJ. With SJ entering .R ADVENT starts Adventure also! I assumed that VBG was for Virtual BackGround, so nice to be comfirmed on that. Indeed, I have E11 running on an 486DX2/66, but I cannot give an idea of how fast it runs, compared to a PDP-11. Although E11 can be set to an 11/70, I have set it to /35-40 because that is also the *real* hardware I have. Never set it to /34(A) or to /44. Both those systems I also have running. Next time that I start the 11/35 I will run ADVENT on both of them and measure the time until the welcome message appears on the screen. For the "blinkenlights" check out my webpage. http://home.hetnet.nl/~tshaj/pdpsite/pdpstartpage.html then click in the left pane on the link Homebrew 'PDP-11'. At this moment only the LEDs of the data bus blink. I hope to add a piece of hardware that 'talks' to Ersatz-11 so that the address bus LEDs are also active *and* that the switches function as on the real thing. The goal is that the hardware design can facilitate *any* real PDP-11 console that has switches and lights, from an 11/10 to an 11/70. Of course, this project needs the cooperation of John Wilson, and I had already some preliminary contacts with him. He also likes the option to connect a real console to the demo(!) version of Ersatz-11. -Henk. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerome Fine [mailto:jhfine@idirect.com] > Sent: woensdag 24 oktober 2001 0:41 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Adventure in Ersatz-11 > > > >Gooijen H wrote: > > > Yes !! > > Jerome Fine replies: > > Thank you for the feed back. I was not sure how much memory > ADVENT requires. You might also try: > BOOT RT11SJ > if you wish. > > > Thanks very much, Jerome. > > Booting RT-11FB and then running ADVENT still produces > > the "Insufficient memory" fatal error. > > However, VBGEXE works fine ! > > After the "Welcome to Adventure!! Would you like instructions?" > > and entering 'YES", it goes: Somewhere nearby is Colossal Cave, > > etc. > > This means that I am now going to play Adventure. This has a > > serious drawback on the expansion of my website ... > > I am playing it on my "homebrew-PDP" with the BLINKENLIGHTS on!! > > On my website this project (early phase) has a separate link. > > BTW. What is VBGEXE, what do the letters stand for? > > Thanks again, > > Henk. > > "EXEcute Virtual BackGround program" is how I think of the letters > with the understanding that the word EXEcute is then switched > to the end. > > A few points worth noting. > > (a) If FOO.SAV requires any arguments as in: > "RUN DEV:FOO.SAV arguments" or replace RUN with VBGEXE, > then they must be on the same line. The alternative is the > put all three > parts of the command on separate lines. Otherwise, with just > "VBGEXE DEV:FOO.SAV" on the first line, somehow the request > for information expects the arguments to already be there and if not, > just exits. Entering: > VBGEXE > DEV:FOO.SAV > arguments > on three separate lines works as well. > > (b) The command: > SRUN VBGEXE.SAV/TERMINAL:n/LEVEL:m/NAME:utility > also works very well when you want to run a system job at a > higher priority. > TERMINAL is only useful with a system that has multi-terminal support > LEVEL specifies the system job number ( 1=>6 ) > NAME can be used to automatically select an executable file > called SY:utility.SAV > One minor problem is that if name is omitted, then only ONE > instance of > VBGEXE can be invoked as a system job since the high memory > GRCBs (Global > Region Control Blocks) must all have different names. I have > a small patch > with allows the user to do the command: > SRUN VBGEXE.SAV/TERMINAL:n/LEVEL:m/NAME:VBGEXm > If that is done, each GRCB is given the name VBGEXm making them all > different. This means that no program can have the name VBGEX(1=>6), > a restriction that I assume can be lived with. > > I also remember that modifying TECO to be named VMUNG so that > "VBGEXE VMUNG arguments" > would work the same as > "MUNG arguments" > but use the full 64 KBytes allowed by VBGEXE. > > By the way, I assume that you are using E11 on a PC. Which hardware > and how fast do you find that the code runs compared to any > real PDP-11 > hardware. Plus, I can't remember about the "BLINKENLIGHTS" - what > did you do to have those available? > > Sincerely yours, > > Jerome Fine > >

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Caddy for one DEC-RDD40 external cdrom unit

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

John Allain [mailto:allain@panix.com] > I have spares for the '42. if they're the same as the '40 you > can have one. I think they're Very common. I don't think > I've seen a caddied CDROM drive that Doesn't use this > type of caddy. The RRD42 is (IIRC) a Sony unit (possibly with modified firmware). It takes a "standard" caddy. The RRD40 is a much older Philips(?) CD-ROM (1x) and it takes a caompletely different form of CD holder (often referred to as "antlers"). FWIW: the RRD43 is a tray-loader and the RRD44 is back to a caddy. The first DEC CDROM drive was the RRD50, which was essentially a tabletop, caddyless (flip open the top and load CD) RRD40 (except, I believe, *slower*!!). I have at least one RRD40 CD holder, which I can supply if noone nearer can dig one up (I'm in the UK). Antonio

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CoCo 3 hot or hmmm

by tlindner＠ix.netcom.com

> One of my swapmeet friends showed up today with Radio Shack Color Computer > 3 in the original box, is it worth anything? (no clue on condition or > completeness etc., but I could look next time). I think they are cool. But then I have been acquiring CoCo stuff for the last twenty-one years! A 128K CoCo 3 with box and manuals is probably worth $25.00. -- tim lindner tlindner(a)ix.netcom.com "Life. Don't talk to me about life." - Marvin, the android

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value of classic DEC machines?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Heinz Wolter wrote: > Glen Goodwin wrote : > > > I talked to Ken this afternoon. > > > He needs 3-4K to cover the back rent on the storage > > > and is looking for someone to take all this stuff and > > > sell it on eBay for him. He thinks it's worth $100000 > > > > Well, hey, if a CoCo is worth $2500 . . . > > We'll if there's a complete working PDP-10 (KL10), with > disks, it might have a collector value of 20-30K$US, > but you'd have to search carefully to find a rich buyer... I know of three in private hands, and I think they were each acquired at not cost. > Now a PDP-1 would certainly be worth 100KUS$, > as might a KA10 or KI10. If all that was needed to > cover back-rent was 3-4KUS$, then a couple of PDP-8s > or early PDP-11s should do the trick. The PDP-1, working, complete, might well be worth US$10K, but it's unlikely he's got one. Probably a boatload of Vaxen & -11 stuff. Or maybe even Alpha. > There are collectors out there like Mr. Allen paying > big dollars for not so rare machines...I've even heard > of unscrupulous "museum" collectors selling off machines > that were donated to so called ~not-for-profit~ organizations. > I don't think paying the rent is a bad idea, but selling off > donated valuable items for huge personal profit is wrong, > unless of course, you paid for or removed the machines, > made no misrepresentations, and it's a legitimate business. The Bostom Computer Museum was trying to support itself by selling modules from systems that weren't complete. > Still no matter what the source, it would bet better for these > machines to find good homes (even in eccentric millionaire's > collections) than to end up in the scrap heap or raped for their > gold plating. On this, we agree... > I wonder what item Al K. is looking for that could be worth > any good part of 100KUS$, or 3KUS$ ;) I don't think anything that expensive is in Al's budget... Though wouldn't we all love to have a sugardaddy like that! -dq

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Univac I Graphic Simulator Aid

by CAA007216＠mail.ono.es

Hello. I just begin the development of the Univac I simulator. By the moment I am doing one simple prototype of the CPU with all the Instruction Set and the Registers, plus ten simulated Uniservos in form of ten plain ascii files. I don't try to reproduce by the moment the timings or the exact cycle of the data and/or instructions along the system. In a later issue I have the intention to convert the simulator in one Bob Supnik's Simh compatible. And, finally, I shall try to develop one GUI for the Sim, and here is where I need some kind of help. All the photographs I have are in black and white, and I need some help about the real color of the Univac I components. I am working actually with the Supervisory Control (the Huge Console of the Univac I) and I need to know if somebody knows its exact colors: that is, of the Metallic components, and the light and blinking colors too. All help should be agreed. Thanks and Best Regards Sergio Pedraja

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ISA cards for free...

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, Cleanout time again... I have the following ISA cards available for cost of postage only. These cards were part of a lot I picked up just for the two Compaticard II cards that were in the pile :-). Let me know what you want. In fairness to international and digest readers, if I get more offers than I have of a certain card, then I will throw names into a hat and pick. These should be fairly cheap to ship, as they all are light... Also, they are UNTESTED, and given to you AS-IS... Here we go: Boards from Zenith Z-150 - CPU Board 85-2889-1 -- 8088, keyboard port, ROMs, etc - Disk Controller Board 85-2890-1 -- 2 WD 8250, i8272, external ports - Memory Board 85-2891-1 -- 5 banks of 9 4164 chips - Video Board 85-2945-1 -- 6845, 2732 ROM, D9 and RCA outputs - 8-slot backplane board 85-2964-1 -- 8 8-bit ISA slots, power connector Qty. 3 8-bit ISA VGA cards -- Paradise chipset, 8 MB81464-12 memory chips Qty. 1 8-bit ISA VGA card, renaissance chipset, 8 D41464C-10 memory chips Qty. 3 8-bit Seagate ISA cards, SCSI??, EPROM marked Seagate ST01/02 BIOS, TI CF61891FN, 50-pin header Qty. 1 8-bit ISA card, marked "UPS Monitoring Board, Copyright 89 APCC" Switch settings silkscreened on board Qty. 2 8-bit ISA cards, marked "ASYNC CARD 1501485APS" -- INS 8250, 25-pin male connector Qty. 1 8-bit Everex ISA card, I believe SCSI controller -- PWA-00081-0002 EV-833, 50-pin header, 62-pin high-density connector out the back, 8085AP-2, 8257C, 6116, 27C64, TI CF60128N, Everex custom chip Qty. 1 16-bit ISA SCSI card, Adaptec AHA-1542B, w/ 50-pin ribbon cable Qty. 1 16-bit full-length ISA SCSI card, board marked AHA-1542A, custom chip marked AHA-1540A -- No floppy connector, 50-pin SCSI connector, no connector out the back. -- 50-pin header has some bent pins. Qty. 4 8-bit 3/4 length ISA floppy controller -- 37-pin D connector out the back, 34-pin edge connector along the front edge of the card. No obvious manufacturer's markings. Three have the i8272 chip, one has an NEC 765. Qty. 6 8-bit 1/2 length ISA floppy controller card. One uses the NEC 765, Two use the Zilog Z0765A08PSC, and three use the i8272. All have no connector out the back, and a 34-pin edge connector along the front edge of the card. One is marked "Kouwell KF-503C" "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin

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ASSORTED COMPUTER PARTS!! L@@K HERE!!

by tonyfz＠lycos.com

If you are interested in any items let me know and I'll forward you an image of the part. Here's the list: IBM PS/2 LX 40 Laptop (complete, including powersupply, battery and modem - Needs CMOS battery replaced) Compaq LTE 286 Laptop parts: -Battery pack -Floppy drive -Harddrive -Motherboard -Memory expansion card Compaq LTE 386 s/20 Laptop parts: -Battery pack -Floppy drive -Harddrive -Modem -Power supply board (?) Apple Computers: * Power Macintosh 6100/66 DOS Compatible 6100 DOS compatible. Card includes a 66 MHz 486DX2 CPU, SVGA output, and a single SIMM slot supporting up to 32 MB RAM * Apple Desktob Bus Mouse II * Assorted apple cables One monitor/printer cable One 8-pin keyboard (?) cable * Apple OneScanner w/ 2 SCSI Ports + cable * Apple Multiple Scan 15 Display 15" monitor w/15-pin plug * Two Apple Keyboard II units * Apple ImageWriter II Color Printer with Paper Tray Feeder MONITORS/Serial Terminals: * Wyse technologies Monitor/terminal w/parallell/phone line ports (15") * NCD Monitor/Terminal w/parallell/thin/serial ports(15"-color) * Seiko Instruments 15" Monitor (color) I also have the following motherboards available: * Compaq Motherboard for 486 processor w/4 Slot ISA Riser board and 4 72-pin memory bays (Copyright 1992, 93,94) Built in Mouse, keyboard, graphics card, and paralell ports Board # 03433-001 * Dual processor motherboard for 486 and 386 processors w/8 ISA Slots Unknown board brand, copyright 1992 8 30-pin SIMM memory bays AMI BIOS // American Megatrends/Symphony chips S/N 58000 * Dual processor motherboard for 386 and 286 (?) processors w/8 ISA Slots Unknown board brand, copyright 1986-1990 8 30-pin SIMM memory bays AMI BIOS // American Megatrends/Symphony/Twinhead chips FM-SC386 * DELL Computer Corp. motherboard for 486 processor w/3 Slot ISA Riser board and 4 72-pin memory bays,copyright 1991 Built in Mouse, keyboard, graphics card, and paralell ports 16577 A7 0141 WS(?) * Micronics Computers Inc. Dual processor motherboard for 486 and 386 (?) processors w/8 ISA slots and 8 30-pin SIMM memory bays Phoenix BIOS // Intel Copyright 1977 /CHIPS on-board chips * Micronics Computers Inc. (??) Dual processor motherboard for two 486 processors w/8 ISA slots and 4 72-pin memory bays and cache slot Copyright 1993 Phoenix BIOS // FLASH/CHIPS/Micronics on-board chips * Dtk Dual processor motherboard for 386 and 286 (?) processors w/8 assorted length ISA slots Copyright 1987 Dallas/Texas Instruments/Mitsubish/Citizen/VLSI on- board chips (All boards are working as far as I know, they were pulled out of working computers) I also have several 5.25" floppy drives (TEAC, EPSON, Others) I have older Miniscribe and Epson harddrives I have one tower and two boxes w/power supply ready for assembly Also, several older graphics cards, IDE expansion cards, SCSI cards, serial port cards, and many other older components of the like. Power supply. Numerous sizes and options Additionally, I have several sets of 30-PIN SIMM Memory cards and one Cache (256K) card Please let me know if you or anyone else you know is interested in acquiring any of this hardware. Feel free to email me for further info. Sincerely, H. Sven Fernandez Hattiesburg, Mississippi Make a difference, help support the relief efforts in the U.S. http://clubs.lycos.com/live/events/september11.asp

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CoCo I (gilded, maybe?) was Re: CoCo 3 hot or hmmm

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Does any on know what eBay gets for his folly? When it doesn't sell, he will be able to reprice it and relist for free, if it doesn't sell the 2nd time, he will owe ebay $3.30 Not a bad loss to test the waters for a sucker -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Mentor Graphics Storage unit 6000

by KenzieM＠sympatico.ca

What is it? It says Mentor Graphics Storage Unit 6000 on the front panel HP C2213d.... class 1 laser... on the back I was told it was an external SCSI drive. Collector of Vintage Computers (www.ncf.ca/~ba600)

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PDP11 tapes

by rcini＠optonline.net

Hello, all: Someone from the Netherlands contacted me about obtaining images of the LPS11 test tapes. Before I go through the trouble of sending the tapes overseas, does anyone on the list have images of the tapes already prepared? Rich Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

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Adventure in Ersatz-11

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Yes !! Thanks very much, Jerome. Booting RT-11FB and then running ADVENT still produces the "Insufficient memory" fatal error. However, VBGEXE works fine ! After the "Welcome to Adventure!! Would you like instructions?" and entering 'YES", it goes: Somewhere nearby is Colossal Cave, etc. This means that I am now going to play Adventure. This has a serious drawback on the expansion of my website ... I am playing it on my "homebrew-PDP" with the BLINKENLIGHTS on!! On my website this project (early phase) has a separate link. BTW. What is VBGEXE, what do the letters stand for? Thanks again, Henk. > -----Original Message----- (snipped to save bandwidth)

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List Maintenance

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 23, 14:35, John Foust wrote: > At 12:22 PM 10/23/01 -0700, you wrote: > >Is there an assumption that spam address harvesters would be incapable of > >replacing all occurences of 'DOT' with '.' and 'AT' with '@' ? > > If I were writing an e-mail harvester, I'm sure > I'd have quite an extensive subroutine that looked > for known patterns of spam-avoidance, and how to > undo them. I can't fathom why otherwise smart people > assume that other smart but nasty people won't think > of the same things they did, and be able to undo them. I'm sure you could/would -- but I'm also sure a lot don't. So trivial obfuscations probbly work to some extent, more especially in the context of trawling web pages, where there is no mandatory header labelled "From:" or whatever. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Reading non-PC format floppies

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

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Reading non-PC format floppies

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

What about PUTR and about a slew of other programs that know alternate formats? Allison -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:25 PM Subject: Re: Reading non-PC format floppies >On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Jim Donoghue wrote: >> Any tools for reading non-PC 5 1/4" HD floppies out there? Tried reading them >> with DOS DEBUG, get 'Data Error'. > >DEBUG can only read legitimate MS-DOS disks. > > >For low-density ("360k"), Trakcess on the TRS-80 model III. > >Central point option board, TE program. > >Morgan Computing's Disk Toolkit (only for 512 byte per sector) > >XenoCopy-PC > >INT 13h > >programming the FDC directly. > >-- >Fred Cisin cisin(a)xenosoft.com >XenoSoft http://www.xenosoft.com >PO Box 1236 (510) 558-9366 >Berkeley, CA 94701-1236 >

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PDP-11 stuff in California

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Guy has some PDP-11 stuff he needs to clear out. Contact: Ken Slusser <termtech(a)digitalputty.com> > On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 01:00:26PM -0700, Termtech wrote: > > Dear Sir > > I have a 1000 sq. ft warehouse full of used DEC pdp and pre IBM p.c. > > equipment / manuals / spares etc. > > I need someone to help me get rid of all of it. I realize it has some > > value on Ebay but my lease has run out and I need to recover some of my > > costs ASAP. > > I am in California on the central coast. > > Any suggestions. > > Thank You > > Ken Slusser > > TTi > > Termtech(a)digitalputty.com Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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DEC Lab 11/40

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 23, 18:46, Tony Duell wrote: > > On Oct 22, 19:48, Tony Duell wrote: > > > > > On the output duct from the prefilter > Did I really say 'prefilter' there? I must be going senile. I meant > 'absolute filter' of course. The prefilter is the foam pad at the back of > the logic cage, and is not essentialy to the operation of the drive. I realised out what you meant :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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TU-58 Tape Drive Problems

by dec.parts＠verizon.net

Hello Michael, Don't know if this would help you out or not, but Bob Armstrong developed a TU58 emulator at ... http://www.SpareTimeGizmos.com/Hardware/TU58_Emulator.htm Sincerely, Bennett > Hello to all VAXenfolks, > > i do have a problem with a VAX-11/730 that i have reconstructed > (cleaned, > resoldered, replaced cable, everything. Pictures on www.vaxcluster.de. > Yes, > i am a bit proud of it... But sorry for the bad web-page design!) over > the > last few months. > It is now willing to boot and tries to load it's microcode tape from the > TU-58 drives. I even have a microcode tape which looks like it could be > still readable. > But the TU-58's are so battered that i have not been able to read the > tape. > I have repaced the rubber rollers, but the read/write-heads look, ummm, > bad! > > I have found somewhere some TU-58 simulator software for DOS which looks > like a promising alternative; i would place a mini-DOS-computer inside a > VT-102 and route some additional cables to the VAX and bee fine. > > BUT: How do i get the contents of the microcode tape of the tape, into a > DOS file without access to a working TU-58? > > Is someone on this list able to read the tape? > Has someone already made a tape image i could just use? I mean, i have > a original DEC tape, with serial number and all. I might even come up > with a license document, if i search long enough... > > Any help would be greatly welcomed. This old lady is just to beautifull > to use it as an electric heater only... > > Thank you > > ms > > -- > Michael Schneider email: ms(a)silke.rt.schwaben.de > Germany http://www.vaxcluster.de > > People disagree with me. I just ignore them. > (Linus Torvalds)

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Sterling Cypher IV 8073 board info

by rcini＠optonline.net

Hello, all: I mentioned a while ago that I got these boards, and I actually received them last week. To do a refresh, this board is an INS8073-based SBC with lots of I/O in a compact 4x5 size. Someone mentioned that they may have access to the manual but I can't find that message. I need some info on these more than I thought. The kit comes with the board and parts and nothing more. The silk screen on the board only has parts designations (i.e., R1, C1, U1) but not the values. Some I can guess at but not enough to make it work. The only info that I have is on the 8073 specifically and not the board itself. A search doesn't turn up much. Any help appreciated. Rich Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

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OT: power & ground for wirewrap boards

by mythtech＠Mac.com

> For the power and ground connections for each chip, a friend suggested I >should solder 16-gauge wire from a tie point or the power connector >straight to each chip and/or its bypass cap. The only 16-gauge wire I have >is stranded, and it's a mess to work with -- too large to work with easily >and the strands mean it won't really bend and stay on the tie point or pin. What kind of juice do those chips need? 16 gauge seems awfully heavy for any ICs I have worked with. I assume you know guages, but 16-18 guage is standard lamp cord and will let you draw 5-10 amps on 110 volt. This sounds good for a main power input to a transformer, but all ICs I have worked with only pull at max a few amps at much lower voltages, so you should be able to use much thinner wire. I would check your amp requirements, and move to an 18 or 20 guage solid or even higher if you can... phone station cord is usually 24 guage, but don't mix it up with the 26 guage multipair cord... the usual obvious difference is, station cord is 4 colors red/green/yellow/black.... multipair cord is 2 (or more) pairs of striped wire (blue, orange, green, brown, slate all striped with white for the first 6 pairs) But that aside, if you strip the standed cord, tiwst the strands in your finger, and then tin the end with your solder iron (heat the end, and let it draw solder into it, until it has a nice coat), it will be MUCH more managable (although it still in general won't stay where you bend it, other than the tinned end, lightweight alligator clips work wonders for holding things in place). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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DEC Lab 11/40

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 22, 19:48, Tony Duell wrote: > On the output duct from the prefilter (the trapezium-shaped thing on the > left of the spindle) there's another foam ring. This one is critical -- > it's in the clean air path from the filter to the cartridge. I am told > that draught excluder tape works here. I wondered about that. OK, it has to go, too. > Also, on top of the RK05 PSU there's a NiCd battery pack. It's there to > retract (and lift) the heads if the mains fails. It's nearly always dead > in old drives. Replace it. Fortunately it's the same as a common cordless > phone battery pack, so it's not hard to get a new one. I knew about that one; I didn't mention it before because I just took it as read that I'd need to replace it :-) Thanks again for the advice. Now all I need is time to get at it -- maybe this coming weekend. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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DEC Lab 11/40

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 23, 8:15, John Foust wrote: > So Pete, are you going to tell us the story behind > this find? There's not much to tell, really. It originally belonged to the University's Psychology Department, which has moved between buildings a few times, and it was left in a small storeroom at the back of a building they left some time ago. I bought something from a postgrad in the building, and whilst chatting he mentioned that the AV technician was also into oold computers, so I paid him a visit. In the course of *that* conversation, he mentioned there was a disused PDP-11 that would need moved in time for a forthcoming building refurbishment, and the rest, is, as they say, history. I try to make sure that people around the campus know I'm interested in old machines, and from time to time something interesting turns up :-) I probably won't have much time to do anything other than gaze at it every time I walk past, until the weekend, but I'll let you know how I get on. I'm also trying to sort out the 6000VA UPS (unrelated acquisition) I got last week, and mentioned on the list. I've got as far as getting it powered up without tripping the 32A circuit breaker, getting the diagnostics and status out of the serial port, and have figured out why it doesn't like the batteries: the two sets of ten 12V lead-acid batteries are all flat. None reads more than 0.2V :-( I presently have a pulse generator/charger on some of them, to see if I can get any life out of a few. It looks moderately hopeful. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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List Maintenance

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 22, 18:09, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > OTOH, it's possible that my additional spam collection has come from Usenet > > trawling rather than list archives, I suppose. > > You blame the list for additional spam, when you've been using the same > e-mail address on usenet ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Don't be ridiculous! I hardly ever use Usenet from this domain now that my ISP's news server seems to be unmanaged and uncared for. I usually post >from work (different address, and munged). And I *always* mung the address on Usenet. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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List Maintenance

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

!-----Original Message----- !From: pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com [mailto:pete@dunnington.u-net.com] !Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 8:54 PM !To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org !Subject: Re: List Maintenance ! ! !On Oct 22, 12:39, Sellam Ismail wrote: ! !> But for people using the archives for research it would be nice to be !> able !> to e-mail the original poster (unless the address obscuring !> we're talking !> about will not completely remove the e-mail address from the !> message). ! !I agree; it's been useful to me on a number of occasions, both !when I've !searched for something and when someone else has found me !through the list. ! I wouldn't want my address removed, just altered enough so automatic !spambots won't get my address too often. ! !....... !-- !Pete One good way I've seen to munch the address is... change "computer.geek(a)computer.com" to "computerDOTgeekATcomputerDOTcom" --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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List Maintenance

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 20, 21:22, Jay West wrote: > Thanks for your patience & understanding as we improve our infrastructure. This is perhaps an opportune moment to thank you for all the time, effort and resources you have put into hosting the list and the archive. Some time ago, there was a discussion about address munging. I've noticed recently (ie the last few months) a large increase in spam arriving here, possibly correlated to my postings to the list. It not a really big deal, but I wondered if it's possible to anti-spamify my email address in list postings? > We will also be updating the software that > pulls all the classiccmp posts into the archive at www.classiccmp.org > and I think the new version has a search function built in. That would be nice! -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Adventure in Ersatz-11

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Hi all. I have a problem when I try to run Advent in Ersatz-11. I guess it is trivial, but I am in the learning phase... Running RT-11, when entering "run advent", I get the response: ?KMON-F-Insufficient memory. For information here are some screen "dumps" of entered commands. .SH MEM ------- Extended Memory ------- Address Module Words Type ------- ------ ----- ---- 17760000 IOPAGE 4096. HDW 00760000 MEMTOP 00166200 ...... 96704. 00160000 SL 1600. PVT ------ Low Memory ------- Address Module Words ------- ------ ----- 155434 DL 626. 122216 RMON 6983. 111154 USR 2321. 001000 ..BG.. 18486. .SHOW CONF RT-11XM (S) V05.03 Booted from DL0:RT11XM USR is set NOSWAP EXIT is set SWAP KMON is set NOIND TT is set NOQUIET ERROR is set ERROR SL is set OFF EDIT is set KEX KMON nesting depth is 3 Global .SCCA flag is disabled PDP 11/35,40 Processor 248KB of memory Extended Instruction Set (EIS) Memory Management Unit 50 Cycle System Clock Device I/O time-out support FPU support

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DEC Lab 11/40

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Thursday I took possession of a DEC Lab 11/40 system. I've not had time to clean it up and check it out yet, but it was reputedly working when last used (well, I suppose it would have been, wouldn't it?). Actually, that's not quite true, as I'm told someone plugged a terminal in the wrong way, apparently blew something up, and got no output -- I hope they mean something simple like the RS232 line drivers have gone. The system consists of two racks about 4' high. One contains the 11/40 in a 12U box, with a power controller below and an LPS11 above. The other contains a pair of RK05 drives and power controller. There's a GT11 display on the top of the 11/40 rack, and a TS03 magtape unit on the other. The system came with stacks of documentation but only one RK05 pack. I've not had time to make a thorough inventory of the docs yet, but they seem to include most of the processor/memory/interface engineering drawings and maintenance manuals, and something like four complete or almost complete sets of RT-11 manuals, for various vintages from 2.0 to 4.0. Also a pile of printed MAINDEC listings (no microfiche, sadly. Anybody got any microfiche they want to pass on?) I've not had time to do anything yet, apart from check the boards in the 11/40 (pretty standard, with EIS but not FIS, no stack limit register or MMU, no KM11, but it does have the KW11-L programmable LTC). It has a DL11-A (20mA interface for console) and a DL11-something (RS232), 2 x 16KW core sets in one backplane, a DUP11-A synchronous interface (what can I use this for?), a TMB11 tape controller, and an RK11-D controller for the drives. The last backplane in the box contains cards not listed in the Field Guide (neither are the memory cards in this machine, so I'll send Megan an update) but I think they're for the GT11: M7014-YA, A320, and M7013, all hex-height. I've had a very cursory look over the machine, and the only things I notice that want some attention before I think about powering it up are a section of frayed insulation on the power loom to the BA-11 box, a lot of dust everywhere (how surprising!), and some kinks in the unibus cable that connects to the RK05s. I plan to vacuum out the dust, ix the insulation, and check the PSUs before I do anything else. I'm no Unibus or RK05 expert; most of my -11s are Q-bus. What else should I look for before I go too far? I mentioned I only got one disk pack -- it's an original RT-11 distribution and I don't want to risk that in an unknown drive. Anyway, I know for a fact it's been dropped (the owner told me). I have since acquired 4 more packs, three of which came from the same machine originally. Anything I should look out for before trying them? I thought it might be wise to check the RK05 heads and perhaps clena them with IPA before I do anything else. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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List Maintenance

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Some time ago, there was a discussion about address munging. I've noticed >recently (ie the last few months) a large increase in spam arriving here, >possibly correlated to my postings to the list. It not a really big deal, >but I wondered if it's possible to anti-spamify my email address in list >postings? This (mine) email address is ONLY used for list subscriptions. I recieve NO outside spam to this address. That tells me that no one has harvested addresses from the list (or any list I am on). HOWEVER... I do recieve >from time to time spam addressed TO the list (and thus it ends up at this address). No amount of address obscuring to solve that, as it isn't addressed to "you" but to the list, and thus proxied to you. Not that I am against address obscuring (since this list replies to the list, and not to the person, so it doesn't become an annoyance). Just thought I would mention my findings on the topic. Unsubscribing the spammer might slow them down a bit (at least then, their messages would be bounced first) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Tektronix 4041 GPIB controller

by mikem＠open.com.au

There were a number of posts on this list over the last year on the topic of the Tek 4041 GPIB controller. Ive got one of these suckers now, plus a number of Tek plugins with GPIB interfaces, and Im interested in making them all play together. I havent got a keyboard, and I recall some posts from Joe Rigdon? saying keyboards are very hard to find. In the meantime, Ive figured out the keyboard electrical interface characteristics and made a rs232-keyboard converter. So I can talk to it now, and give it little BASIC commands, and see the results on the LED display Ive figured out much of the BASIC dialect it speaks, but I cant yet figure out how to open the printer, serial port or tape for IO, nor have I got the docs yet. Can anyone shed some light on the exact syntax for the BASIC open call used by the 4041 and the get() function for reading GPIB devices? Cheers.

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Sterling Cypher IV 8073 board info

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Rich, I have data on the NS version of the 8073 board and the chip itself. However I have to dig for it. the sterling Cypher is different than the NS board though the chip (8073) is fairly standard in what it expects in that regard. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Richard A. Cini, Jr. <rcini(a)optonline.net> To: ClassCompList <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, October 22, 2001 11:11 PM Subject: Sterling Cypher IV 8073 board info Hello, all: I mentioned a while ago that I got these boards, and I actually received them last week. To do a refresh, this board is an INS8073-based SBC with lots of I/O in a compact 4x5 size. Someone mentioned that they may have access to the manual but I can't find that message. I need some info on these more than I thought. The kit comes with the board and parts and nothing more. The silk screen on the board only has parts designations (i.e., R1, C1, U1) but not the values. Some I can guess at but not enough to make it work. The only info that I have is on the 8073 specifically and not the board itself. A search doesn't turn up much. Any help appreciated. Rich Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

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65816/65802 cpu programming books offer

by claudew＠videotron.ca

Hi I found these sorting out stuff today. Programming the 65816 (W.Libiak, Sybex) 65816/65802 Ass. Lang. Programming (M.Fischer, McGraw/Hill) Both very clean. Trades and offers welcome or dumpster for these... Thanks Claude http://computer_collector.tripod.com

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klesi / rc25 question

by oliv555＠arrl.net

I'm trying to get this combo running on a mvIII+ (ba23) I just put together. /sho dev/ picks it up as UQSSP Tape Controller 0 (774500). I know this can also be used as a tape controller but is there any jumpering required for use with the rc25? (no other mscp devs present) Also, the person who wanted the mvII boards from my recent "garagesale" changed his mind. So 2-M7606 1-M7608 and 2-M7609s are still avail (free - U pay postage). All bds just tested good. -nick

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RS6000 7012-320H

by pechter＠ureach.com

---- On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, r. 'bear' stricklin (red(a)bears.org) wrote: > On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, One Without Reason wrote: > > > OS/2 JFS is AIX JFS. They are the same. > > When did OS/2 start supporting JFS? It was still all HPFS as of Warp > 3.0 > > ok > r. > > > > The OS/2 Warp Server 4.x (IIRC) had HPFS support and JFS support. -- Bill Pechter Systems Administrator uReach Technologies 732-335-5432 (Work) 877-661-2126 (Fax)

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