- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

if you hadn't already known this about the PDP-8

by Richard.Sandwell＠roebry.co.uk

I think the IBM S/360 was 'stack challenged' too, iirc //Rich Hi, I found this really interesting: The PDP-8 has no concept of a stack. It does have sub-routines though. Instead of pushing the instruction pointer onto a stack, it's being written at the location to which the call is directed (first address of the subroutine). Then a return is simply an indirect jump to that first address of the subroutine. This is hillarious! Wasn't the notion of a stack arond already before 1965? fun stuff, isn't it?

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OT: RE: Cats around computers

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Do you (or someone you know) have a pet guinea pig? They were originally domesticated and raised as food, in Peru. I must say a good barbequed cuy (which is what they are called there) is quite tasty, though not much meat on them. -----Original Message----- From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:24 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: Cats around computers On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > Rodents *are* chewy... have you never had squirrel? > > > > NO. And I hope I NEVER get that hungry. > > Hey, it's not like I was playing Hannibal Lector to > old Rocket J. himself... Yes, but still...NOT FOOD. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Wierd Things you've found inside... (was Smoking around compu ters)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > I've seen the brown recluse in my home, among several > > other species. Can't always tell which is which but I > > can tell that some are different from others. > > The brown recluse has a very clear fiddle mark on their body. You can't > mistake them for anything else. I've found them in camp showers (eeek). > They are unpleasantly fond of human company. I'll bet you're presbyotic (far-sighted) or have perfect vision, and aren't near-sighted... that or you wear contacts or always wear your glasses.... anything further away than a monitor screen is *usually* a complete blue for me. Plus, isn't the fiddle on their stomach? Should I ask the spider to "present, front and center" so i can check? ;) > The wolf spider is frequently mistaken for a brown recluse even though > they're grey, not brown; they're considerably larger; and they definitely > don't have the fiddle marking. This is unfortunate since people take > shoes and other implements to wolf spiders who are good to have in the > house as they keep insects down to a minimum, and don't bother people. The wolfs are probably what I've got, then... -dq

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Wierd Things you've found inside... (was Smoking around compu ters))

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Boatman on the River of Suck wrote: > > >> > I'll bet you're presbyotic (far-sighted) > > >> > > >> Nit pick time. I think you mean presbyopic. presbyotic would be > > >> someone who can only hear things far away. > > Actually, neither of you are right. Presbyopia is not being able to see > near or far due to lack of accomodative ability caused by age. > Farsightedness is hyperopia. ...and Sridharopia is the desire to hack on a 1GHz PDP11 in a storage locker with an electric heater using an old DOS box as a terminal! :-) There, that was at least *closer* to being on-topic! -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Jeff Hellige wrote: > The unfortunate thing about the brown recluse is that you > likely won't see it before it bites you and the insides of equipment > that has been out in a shed or something similar is a good place for > them. I'm no longer sure what areas they're common in, but the Ozark > mountains of southern Missouri has their share of them. I found two in my basement in Laurel MD, Jeff... -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Wierd Things you've found inside... (was Smoking around compu ters))

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > I'll bet you're presbyotic (far-sighted) > > Nit pick time. I think you mean presbyopic. presbyotic would be > someone who can only hear things far away. I had not a *clue* how to spell it... how funny that the mispelling turned out to be something! > > Plus, isn't the fiddle on their stomach? Should I ask the spider > > to "present, front and center" so i can check? > > Definitely on the back, hence the common name fiddleback spider. hadn't heard that name might explain why I was able to see them when I was younger tho... but I saw all kinds of things in those "paisley days"....

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Wierd Things you've found inside... (was Smoking around computers))

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Roger Merchberger wrote: > And yes, cow's tongue is very good also, when prepared correctly, but I > never did acquire a taste for the pickled pork hocks... I don't "pretend" > what I like, because I like most everything. Well this is very cool...my sense of "gross" is a little oversensitive I think; I know a few people who don't have any at all...I must admit I'm somewhat jealous of them. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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What's with this Lisa?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey H. Ingber [mailto:jhingber@ix.netcom.com] > I have a similar machine which I would call identical except for the > green-screen. All the "prototype" markings that the auction makes > mention of I have seen seen on my Lisa, as well as the only other one > I've seen. I believe these markings to be common, and that the screen > was a replacement job by a 3rd party. Is this guy > misinformed or am I? Well, I don't know whether they actually implied that the machine was a prototype... Just mentioned the markings as making it "unique." (a very slight distinction, anyway) You're right that they (the markings on the boards) might be common, though I certainly haven't seen any Lisas with green CRTs, myself. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Need manual for Everex digital cassette drive

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > > > just off the center of the top of the cassette, and they have > > > two slide > > > tabs to turn write-protection on/off. Otherwise, it > looks just like a > > > regular analog cassette tape. > > No problem, just file a notch in your "analog" cassette. ;) > Is your data really worth that _little_ that it's not worth > buying the > right tape? Well, any data I'd consider storing on such a strange, you-probably-won't-see-another, device would have to be worth very little, or, more likely, backed up onto CD, DAT, or 8MM. :) That, and where do you suggest one should get "digital cassette" these days? > > I'm not sure that would work, but given the improved > resolution, etc, in > > cassette tapes during the last several years, it just may. > I am pretty sure the coercivity of the tape in the 'digital' > cassettes is > considerably high that that of the tape in normal audio cassettes... Well, again, cassettes have gotten better. Depending on the age of this "digital cassette" technology, it might substitute in a pinch. Speaking of which, anyone remember anything about the VHS tape backup devices? Capacity, systems they'd work with, etc? A friend and I were discussing these a few days ago. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Need manual for Everex digital cassette drive

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Maybe, but doubtful. This was more of a tape backup device. It uses > DIGITAL cassettes. If you've never seen one, they have a square notch > just off the center of the top of the cassette, and they have two slide > tabs to turn write-protection on/off. Otherwise, it looks just like a > regular analog cassette tape. Yeah, I've got a drive from an old Burroughs teller machine... Had a bunch of Burroughs stuff I dumped about five years ago, though I still have a direct-wire 1200 baud modem... -dq

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[PDP8-Lovers] if you hadn't already known this about the PDP-8

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Dec 13, 9:26, Mark Crispin wrote: > Unique? Quite a few processors of that time had a store-PC-and-jump type of > subroutine call. The beloved PDP-10 had three (JSR, JSP, JSA/JRA) and > subsequent enhancements added more (JSYS, XPCW); yet it also had stacks from > its inception. > > Contemporary programming languages, such as BASIC and FORTRAN, did not use > stack subroutines. It's possible that modern BASIC and FORTRAN compilers may > permit recursive subroutine calls, but doing so is still prohibited by the > language specification. Now you know why. That's not wholly true; FORTRAN prior to FORTRAN-90 prohibits recursion but it's a required feature in FORTRAN 90. I don't believe it's actually prohibited in BASIC of the mid-to-late 60's. There were certainly inplementations in the early 70s that allowed it, and it's a feature of the modern standards (both de-facto and ANSI). Recursion was also a (required) feature of ALGOL in 1958, and its successors, as was stack-based evaluation. However, in support of Mark, it's worth noting that the main reason there's no recursion allowed in FORTRAN, and it almost was omitted from the original ALGOL spec, was that it was hard for people to understand how it could be implemented across a variety of architectures. Stacks had been around since the mid-50s but lots of machines provided no specific support for them. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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1GHz PDP-11 (Re: Prints for an 11/70)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > I bought a CGA-compatible video cards a few years back > > (80s), that had an incompatible hi-res mode in addition > > to the CGA, and a mouse interface. > > > > The manual kept referring to "the connector of the ten ways". > > This sounded *SO* Zen that I was sure than once I had it > > figured it, it'd be the secret to life. > > > > Finally dawned on me that this was "10-pin connector". > > In the UK (I have no idea if the expression is used in the States), the > term n-way connector is common. It means (of course) an connector with n > indepedant connections. It's often used for things like jack plugs ('phone > plugs' in the States) which don't really have pins. Calling the plug on > the end of a pair of stereo headphones a '3 pin plug' seems strange... Of course, we've some of the same linguistic heritage; but here, that usage's most frequent occurance is in a phrase relating to ways that deviate from each other, i.e. a four-way stop. The four ways all go away from each other. A cable with connectors like that might not be very useful (of course, as soon as I say that I envision an old-style RGB video cable with BNCs each "going their own way." -dq

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Wierd Things you've found inside... (was Smoking around compu ters)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Cameron Kaiser wrote: > > > This is unfortunate since people take shoes and other implements to > > wolf spiders who are good to have in the house as they keep insects > > down to a minimum, and don't bother people. > > Anything in my house with more than four legs dies. It's as simple as > that. So, the beast with two backs never makes itself seen in your home? ;) -dq

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Cats around computers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > My Zoology prof claimed to have eaten just about > > eberything on the planet that people make a regular > > habit of eating... grubs were the first thing he > > mentioned. > > Fear. > > I will never understand the "I am cool because I eat, and pretend to > like, things that gross most people out" mentality. Well, although he was a zoologist, I'd agree it's a stretch (wants to know about animals so eats them), but for all I know, he may have wanted to be an anthropologist. It would be quite appropriate and understandable for one o' them to want to give everything a try... He had cancer back in those days, beat it, but I've no idea whether he's still around or not. We never, ever saw him down in the computer center, even though we had some applications we support for the biology department (bringing us back to classic computers). If he ever took to computers, they'd probably have been Macintoshes... -dq

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Cats around computers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > > > > Rodents *are* chewy... have you never had squirrel? > > > > > > > > > > NO. And I hope I NEVER get that hungry. > > > > > > > > Hey, it's not like I was playing Hannibal Lector to > > > > old Rocket J. himself... > > > > > > Yes, but still...NOT FOOD. ;) > > > > Ok, Ok, you're right, you *won't* find it on the menu > > down at Mickey D's... or Hardups... or Snake n Shake... > > or Food Lion... > > Yes. But I maintain that squirrels are NOT FOOD not because you > won't find them in Food Lion...but you won't find them in Food Lion > because they're NOT FOOD. :) > > > BTW, now that you're _down south_, has anyone turned > > you onto the burgers at Crystal's ? > > I don't believe I've had them yet, no...are they good? > They're sometimes known as "southern sliders"... when you see them, you'll know why... And re: squirrels, lemme tell ya, I wouldn't be alive if they *weren't* food... there were times when squirrel wasn't the usual delicacy, but the only damned thing my ancestors could find to eat. -dq

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Wierd Things you've found inside... (was Smoking around compu ters)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Jeffrey S. Sharp wrote: > > This is unfortunate since people take shoes and other implements to > > wolf spiders who are good to have in the house as they keep insects > > down to a minimum, and don't bother people. > > Anything in my house with more than four legs dies. It's as simple as > that. I with you there, Jeff. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Info-Vax mailing list messages previous to 1981

by spedraja＠ono.com

Hi again. I've checked CRVAX server but I can't locate what I'm searching... Anybody knows a place where could be located the INFO-VAX mailing list messages previous to 17-May-1981 ? This is the date of the first message gatewayed to the Fa.info-vax newsgroup. If I read correctly the info that appears in http://www.firstmonday.dk/issues/issue3_8/chapter10/ , Usenet began in 1979, and the FA.* groups were gatewayed >from mailing lists to the Usenet newsgroups by the long time closed (1994 if the RIP note of one person that I assume was Keith Bostic was correct) UCBVAX server. Do you heard about some kind of backup or so of these early Usenet and/or mailing lists messages ? By the way, a little swinging in the messages of these years is, like Spock could say without any doubt, "fascinating". By example, one reference to one Datamation of 1981 that did a critic about the Unix interface :-) ,,, or one guy that tried in 1981 to do one list of DBMS for Unix. I don't know if somebody knows cause of direct participation some of these hits. Thanks and Greetings Sergio

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Cats around computers

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > > > Rodents *are* chewy... have you never had squirrel? > > > > > > > > NO. And I hope I NEVER get that hungry. > > > > > > Hey, it's not like I was playing Hannibal Lector to > > > old Rocket J. himself... > > > > Yes, but still...NOT FOOD. ;) > > Ok, Ok, you're right, you *won't* find it on the menu > down at Mickey D's... or Hardups... or Snake n Shake... > or Food Lion... Yes. But I maintain that squirrels are NOT FOOD not because you won't find them in Food Lion...but you won't find them in Food Lion because they're NOT FOOD. :) > BTW, now that you're _down south_, has anyone turned > you onto the burgers at Crystal's ? I don't believe I've had them yet, no...are they good? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Cats around computers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > Yes, but still...NOT FOOD. ;) > > > > Anyone watch FoodTV? I think the show was called Xtreme Food.. One section > showed the guys hunting in their backyard.. Shooting some squirrel.. And how > to cook it... It was called "Squirrel Fricasse" This really was on TV.. > HONEST! I think this was in Louisana... My Zoology prof claimed to have eaten just about eberything on the planet that people make a regular habit of eating... grubs were the first thing he mentioned. > But what looked good was the deep-fried wild turkey. Dunno about wild, but Bob&Tom's domestic deep-fry recipie is a big winner around here... > P.S. I wonder what kind of wine goes good with squirrel? A > couple of bottles before it is set down in front of you??! Oh, Ripple, Richard's, MD2020 if you need Kosher... -dq

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Need manual for Everex digital cassette drive

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] > Maybe, but doubtful. This was more of a tape backup device. It uses > DIGITAL cassettes. If you've never seen one, they have a square notch > just off the center of the top of the cassette, and they have > two slide > tabs to turn write-protection on/off. Otherwise, it looks just like a > regular analog cassette tape. No problem, just file a notch in your "analog" cassette. ;) I'm not sure that would work, but given the improved resolution, etc, in cassette tapes during the last several years, it just may. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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1GHz PDP-11 (Re: Prints for an 11/70)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On December 12, Richard Erlacher wrote: > > If it topped out at 7 MBps, it was probably because the bus handshake was > > clocked with a CPU clock, in order to ensure the CPU would "see" the > > transitions. > > I am reminded of my favorite piece of broken english, found in a > Taiwanese PeeCee motherboard manual many years ago: > > "If use 387 coprocessor, the clocked by CPU clock." > > No, I made no typos there. :-) I bought a CGA-compatible video cards a few years back (80s), that had an incompatible hi-res mode in addition to the CGA, and a mouse interface. The manual kept referring to "the connector of the ten ways". This sounded *SO* Zen that I was sure than once I had it figured it, it'd be the secret to life. Finally dawned on me that this was "10-pin connector". -dq

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Internet Historical Documents Translation

by spedraja＠ono.com

Hello. A short note to thanks the help about Google Usenet Groups. I probed the &Filter=0 and works :-) I want to begin a project with a large projection in time. I want to translate to spanish language all the historical and classic computer documents I can. I should like to begin with articles, files and documents of relevance about the Internet, but I am thinking in mirror some classic computers websites translating them to my idiom. I don't know if anybody could be interested about it and permit to do the mirror and translation. Thanks and Greetings Sergio

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Cats around computers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > > Rodents *are* chewy... have you never had squirrel? > > > > > > NO. And I hope I NEVER get that hungry. > > > > Hey, it's not like I was playing Hannibal Lector to > > old Rocket J. himself... > > Yes, but still...NOT FOOD. ;) Ok, Ok, you're right, you *won't* find it on the menu down at Mickey D's... or Hardups... or Snake n Shake... or Food Lion... BTW, now that you're _down south_, has anyone turned you onto the burgers at Crystal's ? -dq

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Cats around computers

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! >>! Some people say tape works well to keep them off things ! >>! (sticky side up), but both my cats seem to rather like ! >>! it, and I find they stand on it ! >>! padding at the tape purring happily. ! > ! >They lick the adhesive too? ! ! Not that I have ever seen, they just step and press their ! paws against it ! over and over... kind of like when they are pressing down a pillow to ! sit, or in the case of one of mine, when he is hungry, he jumps on my ! lap, and presses his paws into my sternum over and over until I am ! annoyed (or in enough pain as he does it pretty hard), to get ! up and feed ! him. Well, my 3 1/2 year old cat, Isabelle, like to like tape and pictures. Never figured that one out yet... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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Cats around computers

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > Rodents *are* chewy... have you never had squirrel? > > > > NO. And I hope I NEVER get that hungry. > > Hey, it's not like I was playing Hannibal Lector to > old Rocket J. himself... Yes, but still...NOT FOOD. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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What's with this Lisa?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >You're right that they (the markings on the boards) might be common, though > >I certainly haven't seen any Lisas with green CRTs, myself. > > Now, I've never tried to replace the CRT in something like a > Lisa or other single piece machine, but I wouldn't think that the CRT > would be that difficult to replace? For companies like Zenith that > actually manufactured CRT's, I could see there possibly be a problem > with swapping it out for a different one though but I know that Apple > didn't manufacture the CRT's in the Lisa. Difficult you mean in terms of finding a replacement, I assume... it *is* fairly easy to replace on in a Mac, procedure-wise, but I had a boxed new Apple replacement to drop in... -dq

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Zen and the art of computer collecting (was SuperFast PDP11)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > Both Zen and the English translation of that manual > come from the far east. Somehowe they always talk > like "one lip whispering" over there........... > Joshi and two monks were watching a flag waving atop a flagpole. One monk said "Look, the flag moves." The second monk said "Look, the wind moves." Joshi spoke thus: "Mind moves."

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Prints for an 11/70

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 11, Boatman on the River of Suck wrote: > > Would 200MHz be fast enough ? A lot of the Xilinx fpga's offer 5ns pin to pin > > In a word, no. 8-) Jeeeeezus Sridhar, how fast did you have in mind? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Prints for an 11/70

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Ian Koller wrote: > > That's the only thing I don't like about sbus. You can fill up an > > sbus card with three good-sized chips. Ridiculous. > > They make doubles. They also make double-decker triples. That's not the point. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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RIP: Betty Holberton

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

12 inches for a thousandth of a second sounds a little off...though I'm too lazy to do the math... -Dave On December 12, Geoff Reed wrote: > 12 inch copper wire IIRC for MS > > Packet of cracked pepper for NS > > packet of salt for FemtopSecond > > IIRC.... > > At 11:08 AM 12/12/01 -0800, you wrote: > > > >On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Dave McGuire wrote: > > > > > > > On December 11, jpero(a)sympatico.ca wrote: > > > > > Look to /. > > > > > > > > > > This is one whom coined the bug and debugging I think. :-) > > > > > > > > If you're talking about the terms, that was Rr. Adm. Grace Hopper. > > > > > > > > > > Speaking of whom, do you know where I could obtain a video tape of the > > > talks she used to give? I'm especially interested in the one where she > > > related the anecdote about her needing a wire a nanosecond (pico?) long. > > > > > > g. > > > > > > >She used to pass them out in her presentations, Gene. They were > >approximately 12" long. > > - don > > -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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What's with this Lisa?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Hellige [mailto:jhellige@earthlink.net] > Also, the auction states that the green CRT is easier on the > eyes...isn't that false? I always thought that the paperwhite > displays, such as used on some DEC terminals and monitors such as the > Multisync GS, were easier on the eyes than the green? That depends on the eyes. ;) I certainly prefer the white. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Need manual for Everex digital cassette drive

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Douglas Quebbeman [mailto:dhquebbeman@theestopinalgroup.com] > I remember reading an ancient article about how this wasn't > the case; I'm sure someone less senile can recall the exact > details, but dropouts in particular couldn't be tolerated > by digital systems, where the ear (mind) will just ignore > many audio inconsistencies... I'm sure it could tolerate them fine if it had any decent error-correction mechanisim built in. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Pinouts for Vaxstation 3100 monochrome cable?

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

I have a VS3100 m38 also, running NetBSD 1.5 on the built-in mono adaptor. I also have the VR262 19" mono screen to go with it. I can take my cable home tonight, where my multi-meter is. I can double check for you... BTW, are you not going to use color (adaptor) in it? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Doc Shipley [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] ! Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:27 PM ! To: Classic Computers ! Subject: Pinouts for Vaxstation 3100 monochrome cable? ! ! ! Hi, all. ! I have a vaxstation 3100 m38 running NetBSD, and I'd like to be able ! to use the local monochrome display. I've removed the SPX ! color adapter, ! and made up a cable according to the pinouts on Kee's VS3100 page. His ! pinouts are composite on pin 9 and ground on 3 for a BC23K-03 cable. ! However, with the cobbled cable attached, I don't get any output. ! Question 1: Did I miss a jumper on the mainboard? ! Question 2: I assumed that the pins were numbered in the ! same order as ! an AUI ethernet connector. Looking at the female, I have 1-8 ! right-to-left, and 9-15 R-t-L. Is this correct? ! Question 3: I'm using an IBM Power17 display. Multisync, ! separate-sync, ! composite-sync and sync-on-green capable, I would think it would work ! with mono input on the green. It does work fine with the SPX adapter. ! Question 4: I also have a Digital VR160 display, but everything I've ! read implies that it won't do monochrome. Is that true? ! ! Has anybody been successful with a monochrome display on ! this box? Any ! help would be most welcome. ! ! Doc !

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Cats around computers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On December 13, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > Rodents *are* chewy... have you never had squirrel? > > NO. And I hope I NEVER get that hungry. Hey, it's not like I was playing Hannibal Lector to old Rocket J. himself... -dq

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Wierd Things you've found inside... (was Smoking around compu ters)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > I've seen the brown recluse in my home, among several > > other species. Can't always tell which is which but I > > can tell that some are different from others. > > The brown recluse has a very clear fiddle mark on their body. You can't > mistake them for anything else. I've found them in camp showers (eeek). > They are unpleasantly fond of human company. Following up on my last remarks, then I was younger, I could see better, that's when I recalled seeing the fiddle in the house. Plus, I do seem to recall it being on the underside of the thingie... -dq

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Need manual for Everex digital cassette drive

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> No problem, just file a notch in your "analog" cassette. ;) > > I'm not sure that would work, but given the improved resolution, etc, in > cassette tapes during the last several years, it just may. Actually, I remember reading an ancient article about how this wasn't the case; I'm sure someone less senile can recall the exact details, but dropouts in particular couldn't be tolerated by digital systems, where the ear (mind) will just ignore many audio inconsistencies... -dq

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Cats around computers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Eric Dittman wrote: > > > My wife sews (a lot!) and every now and then one of the cats will try to > > eat some thread. One day we heard one of them making strange noises at > > the litterbox. It turns out the cat had eaten a long thread, and it was > > making its way out. We had to pull it out (slowly, to avoid internal > > injuries to the cat and external injuries to us). There was at least a > > foot of thread in there. Eric- Been there, done that, with christmas ribbons... -dq

23 years, 5 months

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1GHz PDP-11 (Re: Prints for an 11/70)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Wright [mailto:dtwright@uiuc.edu] > The manual of the motherboard for the first PC I built had a > statement to the > following effect on the second page: > "This manual has been carefully for errors to make sure correct." It is also vaguely amusing when the author of some software documents in English (which I'm usually very thankful for, since it's my first language), but normally speaks another language. (German and French, (other Latin languages too) are exceptionally prone to this) For instance, I had an old 3d modeler for the POV raytracer whose documentation contained the following (more or less): "PV3D now is a freeware." There are also these from a (very good) Atari Lynx development page: "Thanks to a simple error Atari made. As you (maybe) know, all the Atari-carts have an encrypyed header and a check-sum over the complete rom-image. This checksum is so da?? good that changing a single-bit,the INSERT GAME message causes." (Care to guess the native language? :) >From the same page: "But 65C02-code is compact and even with C are good program possible." I've even in English noticed, that German-speakers tend to their verbs on the end of sentences put. :) (No offense, of course, I don't speak three words of German, myself...) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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if you hadn't already known this about the PDP-8

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Chris Kennedy wrote: > were to do that or not have a machine at all. The big problem > is doing useful things in the absence of a memory mapping and > protection unit of some sort (the Nova grew one early on, but > I'm too ignorant of the PDP-8 family to know if such an option ever > existed). On an 8/e, I believe that'd be the Memory Extension and Timeshare Control board. Among other things it drives the three high-order address bits to go beyond 4KW of core, but if memory serves this is more of a bank-switching scheme than anything else. But hey, it works! :-) PDP8s are Good Food(tm). -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

23 years, 5 months

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1GHz PDP-11 (Re: Prints for an 11/70)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 12, Richard Erlacher wrote: > If it topped out at 7 MBps, it was probably because the bus handshake was > clocked with a CPU clock, in order to ensure the CPU would "see" the > transitions. I am reminded of my favorite piece of broken english, found in a Taiwanese PeeCee motherboard manual many years ago: "If use 387 coprocessor, the clocked by CPU clock." No, I made no typos there. :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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1GHz PDP-11 (Re: Prints for an 11/70)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com] > I am reminded of my favorite piece of broken english, found in a > Taiwanese PeeCee motherboard manual many years ago: > "If use 387 coprocessor, the clocked by CPU clock." > No, I made no typos there. :-) I haven't had so much (documented) cheap imported hardware, but my favorite is from a sound board: "We make 100% sure that this is caused by a M/B bios bug. Please to update the bios of the mainboard with the M/B manufacturer." I was also amused once to see somebody who didn't speak English very well (nor, it appears, know what SCSI stands for) mark some SCSI controllers with a sign that said "SCASI." Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Google and Usenet Archives from 15-May-1981

by CAA007216＠mail.ono.es

Hello. I take five minutes to review one thing that maybe somebody could clear me: I've checked the Usenet Oldnews Archive in http://communication.ucsd.edu/A-News.Archive/ and I saw the time limit that appears in Google (15-May-1981) is applicable there too. But I'm lightly surprised because some Newsgroups like FA.arpa-bboard has MORE threads than the finally displayed in a search. By example, this Usenet Group has 333 Threads but it only show 297 in a search. Can be possible that could exists even more news before 1981-May-15 archived in Google but not available by the moment ? Thanks and Greetings Sergio

23 years, 5 months

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Cats around computers

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! From: Chad Fernandez [mailto:fernande@internet1.net] ! ....... ! ! My parents still have one cat that will eat/chew ribbon.... we have to ! be careful at Christmas. A cat of long ago would eat thread (for ! sewing). My mother pulled about a yard out of him one ! day...... he was ! eating it right off the spool and swallowing it!! Sounds familiar. We can't leave Christmas presents around with bows on them. Isabelle will rip them all off to play with them, and chew them to nothingness... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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What's with this Lisa?

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> >I always wondered why the 2 existed in the first place, > since without a hard > >drive and only .5mb of memory it was useless for anything other than > >MacWorks. > > Once you take a look at your's, since you said it started > life as a '2' and you upgraded it to a 2/5, would you mind sending > me the model/serial/date numbers off of it? No problem - I'll check it tonight and mail you on-list since it might be of interest to others...... cheers -- Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)

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Cats around computers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On December 13, Chad Fernandez wrote: > > I had a cat lick pictures once. They'll eat/chew on the darndest things > > if you let them. I think it is the taste..... something about the > > chemicals must be salty tasting or something. It's not like cats are > > chewy like dogs or rodents. > > Did anyone beside me read this wrong and laugh hysterically? Rodents *are* chewy... have you never had squirrel? -dq

23 years, 5 months

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VAX 8650 want a good home ...

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, I know where there are probably several VAX 8600s and 8650s and a good deal more stuff. My plan is to organize a treck that runs from south-central US through mid-west to NY. So, if you live along the way and dream of some big iron, here is your chance. The thing would not be for the taking, but presumably $200-$400 (just a bit above scrap value) would be it. regards, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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What's with this Lisa?

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> >I'm going to have to check mine now, since it was originally > a stock Lisa 2 > >before I upgraded it to a 2/5 - it definitely has the drive > access light > >window, so maybe they were going to add in a LED on the floppy drive? > > The drive access light window is well above the floppy > though, more inline with where the Widget drive is normally mounted. > It would appear that they already had the 2/10 in the works when the > 2 and 2/5 were released, using them as just a modified stopgap > machine. I always wondered why the 2 existed in the first place, since without a hard drive and only .5mb of memory it was useless for anything other than MacWorks. -- Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)

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Prints for an 11/70

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 12, Boatman on the River of Suck wrote: > > Are you wanting this to go in big, hex-width cards like old UNIBUS cards, > > or will you be defining a new form factor, connector (compact UNIBUS?), > > backplane, and card mounting system for your new UNIBUS (UNewBUS?)? > > Old style. Cool. Cards that you can actually FIT SOME COMPONENTS ON. What a concept. That's the only thing I don't like about sbus. You can fill up an sbus card with three good-sized chips. Ridiculous. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

23 years, 5 months

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USENET from 1981 to present on google

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> The earliest post of mine in there is from late 1994. To be fair, I wasn't > around much earlier than that, but there are still gaps even after the > Renaming. *REplies* to my first posts are there, but not the posts themselves... -dq

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tektronix phaser

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On December 12, Dan Wright wrote: > > I agree...it's a great print process. I think it has much nicer looking > > output then color laser, personally...more photo-like with the glossiness and > > all :) > > It's targeted at an entirely different market than color lasers, so > that's not really a valid comparison. But yes, the Phaser III output > is *really* impressive. And if you get hungry, it's the only printer on the market with edible inks... Plus, if you run out, all you have to do is run down to WallyWorld and get a box of Crayolas... Just kidding of course; we dumped a Phaser 550 that was a toner-based laserprinter this year in favor of two Phase 850s, which use the wax-based inks. The prints do not fair well, however, in *any* form of currently produced page protectors. Even those ones they came out with for toner-prints don't work, the wax just melts onto the plastic. Perhaps glassine envelopes? -dq

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What's with this Lisa?

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> Mine has the 'PTA Prototype' markings on the inside of the > front cover as well. From talking with other's it would appear that > those markings aren't uncommon. The thing I always found interesting > was that even though earlier Lisa 2 and 2/5's weren't intended to use > the internal Widget hard disk due to the lack of internal connector > for it, the faceplate still has the drive access light window for it. I'm going to have to check mine now, since it was originally a stock Lisa 2 before I upgraded it to a 2/5 - it definitely has the drive access light window, so maybe they were going to add in a LED on the floppy drive? cheers -- Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)

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Smoking around computers

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> > > > I wouldn't want anybody smoking near my computers! > > I've been chain-smoking around computers of various sorts for 20 years, and > I've never seen any evidence of smoke-related problems. I prefer that > computers don't smoke around me, however ;>) > > OTOH, audio gear seems to be very susceptible to my smoke, and I have to > clean all the switches and pots every three months or so. The early CDC disk drives (like many others I'm sure) has so much room between platters you could stick your hand in there, and enough room between the flying heads and the platter that neither smoke nor dust was a problem. One CDC engineer remarked to me about how they usually be smoking a cigarette while they were *polishing* the platters (yes, I know about the stiction cure joke, Lemon Pledge and all that). Which reminds me of an MPEG that Elsa included with the Winner3000 drivers... you watch this video, you'll think it's cigarettes that they're selling... -dq

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RIP: Betty Holberton

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Right. The speed of light is 30 cm/ns. The thing to remember is "one foot per nanosecond". Much easier not to forget that one! Antonio

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What's with this Lisa?

by jhingber＠ix.netcom.com

Please see this item and read the description: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1309308140 I have a similar machine which I would call identical except for the green-screen. All the "prototype" markings that the auction makes mention of I have seen seen on my Lisa, as well as the only other one I've seen. I believe these markings to be common, and that the screen was a replacement job by a 3rd party. Is this guy misinformed or am I? Thanks, Jeffrey H. Ingber (jhingber _at_ ix.netcom.com)

23 years, 5 months

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List of HP-PB adapters ?

by jarkko.teppo＠er-grp.com

The subject says it all, does anyone have a handy list of HP-PB adapters supported in the Nova series ? (I realize this might be *just* short of the ten year rule). Looking to add some IO to my H50. btw. I love google. I love google. Google rocks. I'm busy downloading every single message with a mention of 9000/500-series. Did I mention that google rocks ? Thanks, -- jht

23 years, 5 months

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Cats around computers

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Chad Fernandez wrote: > I had a cat lick pictures once. They'll eat/chew on the darndest things > if you let them. I think it is the taste..... something about the > chemicals must be salty tasting or something. It's not like cats are > chewy like dogs or rodents. Did anyone beside me read this wrong and laugh hysterically? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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pleH!

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Boatman on the River of Suck wrote: > !07/11 PDP a ni deppart m'I !pleH Go to sleep, Sridhar. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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pleH!

by vance＠ikickass.org

!07/11 PDP a ni deppart m'I !pleH Peace... Sridhar

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CPT 9000

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Hi everybody, I remember somebody mentioning the CPT 9000 on this list recently. Since I just happen to be working on one, I thought I'd post this question here. Does anyone know where I can get some of the original software that might take advantage of the full screen-height? I have a copy of ventura publisher that was pre-installed, but I assume that its CPT9000 driver is corrupt. It works with the Herc ega driver, but with the CPT9000 driver, I just get some strange text-mode blocks. I also wonder whether anyone's tried Minix on it, and whether that might address the whole monitor? Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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1GHz PDP-11 (Re: Prints for an 11/70)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 12, Jeffrey S. Sharp wrote: > What little I've read about UNIBUS told me that UNIBUS has no set clock > rate, and that the speed of communication between two devices would be the > the highest rate that both devices could handle. If you've got nothing > but Sridhar-made fast devices on the bus, what stops you from having a > UNIBUS operating at say, 33MHz to 100MHz on average? I don't recall the specifics of Unibus...but its bandwidth is commonly stated as being about 7MB/sec. If that's the case, then it's unlikely that it's asynchronous. But perhaps it is asynchronous, and 7MB/sec was just the maximum. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Nanoseconds per foot (RE: RIP: Betty Holberton)

by CLeyson＠aol.com

For coax or twisted pair the delay per unit length is given by:- Delay (Secs/unit length) = Root( (C/unit length)*(L/unit length) ) Example: For RG58-U coax, C=100pF/m and L=250nH/m Delay = root(250E-9*100E-12) = 5E-9 sec/m or 5ns/m A pulse will travel 66% slower in RG-58 cable than free space. If anyone needs to lay out high speed PCB's the following book is highly recommended: "High Speed Digital Design - A Handbook of Black Magic" Howard W Johnson and Martin Graham ISBN 0-13-395724-1 Chris Leyson

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Smoking around computers

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: charles hobbs [mailto:chobbs@socal.rr.com] > Speaking of which, ever open a machine formerly owned by a > dog/cat owner? I have. Being a cat owner, I find that I need to clean my systems of cat-hair on a regular basis. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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I've discovered a new pleasure.

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 11, Boatman on the River of Suck wrote: > > > I am pretty sure that I will be bringing one of my IBM S/390 G1's to VCF > > > East next year with VM, MVS, and Linux running. If anyone else brings > > > machines capable of SNA, FDDI, Ethernet or ATM, you'll be welcome to hook > > > up to me. > > > > Eh? The G1 isn't 10 years old, is it? > > It is indeed. Both of mine have manufacture dates in 1991. Ahh, I thought the G1 came out in 1994 or so. I stand corrected. :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

23 years, 5 months

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Burroughs - any information?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> This is a page about a B205. I'll eventually get a page up about my > G20M/200. Oh shit he's got the Jupter II helm! Talk about your unobtainium... -dq

23 years, 5 months

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if you hadn't already known this about the PDP-8

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Cameron Kaiser wrote: > > But yes, I agree...Linux can be made to work well on machines with > > small quantities of memory. It's actually pretty good at it. > > Hey! Don't forget about ... *waves NetBSD flag frantically* Oh yes, most definitely...I run NetBSD in production at a number of sites, and it's wonderful. I only mentioned Linux specifically because we were specifically discussing Linux. While I like Linux a LOT, I don't consider it production-ready enough to bet my dinner on it. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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if you hadn't already known this about the PDP-8

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> But I ask the question is bigger always better? I am the guy who still > uses 640x480 cause this way he can read the screen and the menus at > the same time. I suspect the wheel of computer design will turn again > towards 'smaller' CISC (pdp8-style?) machines as the interconnect > in chips between modules is becoming larger compared to the the gate > speeds. I never understand this- why not kick it up to 1027x768 and use the Windows Appearance controls to make the menus and screen fonts larger? That way graphics look nice and text is still readable and things you have to click on (buttons can be made bigger too) are bigger targets... It's the best of both worlds, instead of being limited to one... Regards, -dq

23 years, 5 months

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Tape drives (which one to look for?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Hi everybody, For those of you who've read my notes on the MIPS RISComputers I'm trying to get going, I ask this because I may want to replace the QIC-120 drive that's missing from one of them with a different model. I'd like some opinions on tape drives. The drive would need to plug into a SCSI interface, and I'd like it to fit in a 5.25" half-height bay. That's pretty much all I'd require from it. It would be nice if the drive held at least as much as a QIC-120 (about 120MB, it so happens ;), and was inexpensive and easy to get used. Any suggestions? What's the going price on DDS-1 these days? Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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RIP: Betty Holberton

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 12, Eric J. Korpela wrote: > Not to disparage the Admiral, but I'm fairly sure the term "bug" referring > to problems with a mechanism was in general use well before electronic > computers existed. Most literature that I've seen gives Hopper that distinction...however John Lawson mentioned a book that seems to prove otherwise. Scans of that would be very cool to have. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

23 years, 5 months

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OT: tektronix phaser

by dtwright＠uiuc.edu

I have a tektronix phaser 340 (which I think is rather less then 10 years old, but I'm not certain...) that has started saying "Fault 05,000.42:8178". I was wondering if anyone here is familiar with these printers and/or knows where I can get a fault code reference for them, because I really don't want to pay xerox to fix my printer. I have a feeling this is something pretty simple -- the printer was off for a while (like about 3 months) and then just started doing this last night. any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Dan - Dan Wright (dtwright(a)uiuc.edu) (http://www.uiuc.edu/~dtwright) -] ------------------------------ [-] -------------------------------- [- ``Weave a circle round him thrice, / And close your eyes with holy dread, For he on honeydew hath fed, / and drunk the milk of Paradise.'' Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Kubla Khan

23 years, 5 months

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Need manual for Everex digital cassette drive

by vcf＠vintage.org

Does anyone have a manual, or know how to operate, an Everex digital cassette drive? The one I have is all black, and has a DC-37 connector on the back that I assume connects to an old-style IBM PC drive interface. If this is the case, I assume I still need drivers to run this thing? And maybe some operating software? Does anyone know what the hell I'm talking about? Please help if you can. Many brownie points await ye. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 5 months

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Need Xpress Librarian software

by vcf＠vintage.org

Ok, after a quick web search, it looks like I may be able to use a program called Xpress Librarian to access this drive. Anybody got it? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 5 months

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Terminal Server

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I just picked up an Encore Corp. Annex Terminal server from my university's salvage. It seems to power up ok and I can get it to have a link to my network. I can even set an ip address to it. However I can't ping it. It seems to want to net boot (as far as i can tell). Anyone have the boot software for these or have a resource to point me towards? The manufacturer's site seems to be of no help, and neither is google. Here's the specifics: Encore Computer Corp. Annex Model # ANN-01 (Cant really read first char, can be different) >From starting it with the switch in 'diag mode' i can get it to spit out the following: Board ID 11 - Serial Number 87 REV ROM: Maj Rev 3 Min Rev 1 ROM Software Rev # 0305 Thanks to anyone that has any ideas. -- Pat

23 years, 5 months

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Free Stuff fo pickup in SF bay area

by pcw＠mesanet.com

2 Tektronix 4051 manual 1 Tektronix 4051 ROM expansion unit (W binary loader ROM and GPIO) 1 4051 ROM expansion unit manual 1 Morrow MicroDecision computer W/manuals and disks 1 DEC Alpha 2100 4 misc HP700 HPPA series (720,735) Peter Wallace Mesa Electronics

23 years, 5 months

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Smoking around computers

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Ok, I give up -- how do you train a cat? :) Water spray bottle works wonders. 3 spritz later and one of my cats has stopped popping the hampster cage open and carrying the hampster around the house. Some people say tape works well to keep them off things (sticky side up), but both my cats seem to rather like it, and I find they stand on it padding at the tape purring happily. -c

23 years, 5 months

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Hardrive.sys for HardCard ?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

> Thanks but Arlen Michaels send me the files. They were for a 40 Mb hard >card but the driver (Plusdrv.sys) seems to work fine. Any chance you can forward those drivers my way? I have a 40mb HardCard that I would like to see if I can get working. Thanks -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 5 months

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USENET from 1981 to present on google

by jpdavis＠gorge.net

Google claims to have recovered the USENET archives from 1981 to present. Makes for some really fun reading. Birth of the web, linux, all the old machines we love. Jim Davis.

23 years, 5 months

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Hardrive.sys for HardCard ?

by spedraja＠ono.com

I'll agree a lot to obtain one copy of this driver because I have another Hardcard of 105 Mb in my IBM XT-286 and it appears to have some working problems with its actual driver. Thanks in advance and Greetings Sergio -----Mensaje original----- De: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net> Para: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Fecha: jueves, 13 de diciembre de 2001 0:21 Asunto: Re: Hardrive.sys for HardCard ? >Gary, > > Thanks but Arlen Michaels send me the files. They were for a 40 Mb hard >card but the driver (Plusdrv.sys) seems to work fine. > > Joe > >At 03:12 PM 12/11/01 -0600, you wrote: >>Joe wrote: >>> >>> Anybody know where I can download a copy of "hardrive.sys" for a 105Mb hard >>> card? >>> >>> Joe >> >> >>I think I have a copy of the software with mine . . . gotta look first. >>I know I have 5 1/4 media, and there shouold be 3.5 as well. >> >>Gary HIldebrand >> >

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Prints for an 11/70

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Wright [mailto:dtwright@uiuc.edu] > Christopher Smith said: > > I've had no problem with them -- they stick a little > sometimes, but that's > > not too much trouble. I'd rather that than have them fall out. :) > In particular, I've had some stubborn cards (the worst was a > cisco dual-width > FDDI board) leap out and stab me with those little stubby > pins that protrude > from the top of the connector's solder points...the problem > is that applying > enough force to dislodge the damn card also jammed it up into > the sides of my > thumbs. it hurts, especially when it's the third time that's > happened in 5 > minutes... Ahh, but without the blood-sacrifice, the systems wouldn't run nearly as well ;) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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What is the difference?

by vance＠ikickass.org

What is the difference between MultiNet and TCPWare on the VAX? Peace... Sridhar

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RIP: Betty Holberton

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

If the speed of an electron in a wire is equal to the speed of light (IIRC, it's slower than light), then an electron will travel about 11.80 inches in one nanosecond, which is the point Hooper was trying to illustrate. -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Reed [mailto:geoffr@zipcon.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:45 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: RIP: Betty Holberton 12 inch copper wire IIRC for MS <snip>

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RIP: Betty Holberton

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 12, Marvin Johnston wrote: > I was at an Orienteering meet this past weekend and got to talking with > a woman I met a year or two ago. Turns out she was also a programmer and > I think she said she had also worked with the Eniac. She is coming up > either today or tomorrow. Seems like a good time to "cross examine" her > :). I have found several people who had worked on the older computers, > usually after they have died :(. Befriend this person while she's still around, man! I'll be she's got GREAT stories to tell! 8-) It wouldn't hurt to thank her for her efforts too, at the risk of sounding weird...I, for one, would likely have a very boring life if it weren't for the work of those early pioneers. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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DECnet License

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 13, Geoff Roberts wrote: > > > like anything other than VMS, though some of the file and > > > directory privs > > > are suggestive of Netware. > > > > Rather, some of the netware privs are suggestive of VMS. ;) > > Either or, but probably a better description as I suspect VMS predates > netware. By quite a while, yes. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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Hardrive.sys for HardCard ?

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

Anybody know where I can download a copy of "hardrive.sys" for a 105Mb hard card? Joe

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DECnet License

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Geoff Roberts [mailto:geoffrob@stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au] > like anything other than VMS, though some of the file and > directory privs > are suggestive of Netware. Rather, some of the netware privs are suggestive of VMS. ;) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > If the speed of an electron in a wire is equal to the speed of light (IIRC, > > it's slower than light), then an electron will travel about 11.80 inches in > > one nanosecond, which is the point Hooper was trying to illustrate. > > It's the electric field that propogates, moving electrons are a side effect. > The average speed free electrons in wire is such that they essentially never > get from one end to the other. Wait a doggone minute, I know that's not right, I distinctly recall seeing a film in school of a wire as a pipe and ball- bearings as electrons... they go in one end, they come out the other... ...and they're blue.

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Apple II C Plus ---> modern monitor?

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

Hi! Is there any way to connect an apple IIC Plus to a "modern" monitor? It has a 15 pin connector that has a strange pin out - and a composit video out on an RCA plug. I currently use an apple monochrome (tilt-y tube) monitor to see 80 col text and a Panasonic monitor to see the color modes. I have to lug to switch them.

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Prints for an 11/70

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

I didn't see the original. Philip Freidin (www.fliptronics.com) is a friend of mine who is doing a 3.2Ghz FPGA. Yes, it takes a level of skill most of us don't posses but I've seen it protos running on his work bench. Doing 1Ghz for him would probably be rather straight forward. --Chuck At 11:08 AM 12/12/01, you wrote: >On Wed, 12 Dec 2001, Jochen Kunz wrote: > > > > > Jeeeeezus Sridhar, how fast did you have in mind? > > > I was thinking somewhere in the range of a gigahertz. > > Ahhh, there are two possibilities: > > 1. Sridhar is making a joke. > > 2. Sridhar has no clue about digital logic circuit design. * > > Get one of those fancy FPGAs and be satisfied with 200MHz. > > It will be faster than everything else you can get for less than > $$$$$$$. :-) > >Neither, actually. I was thinking somewhere in the $250,000 range. > >Peace... Sridhar

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What is the difference?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 12, Curt Vendel wrote: > Wasn't Multinet done by TRW or some 3rd company as part of their all around > multi-protocol networking package? TGV. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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CPT 9000

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: UberTechnoid(a)home.com [mailto:UberTechnoid@home.com] > I recall having backup disks of the cpt provided packages. > I'll look and > see if the disks are still where I think they are. Next time > I'm at my > storage place. > BTW The CPT box I saw ran CP/M 2.2? Unfortunately, I think this one is MS-DOS. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Internal Data Specifications for HP71 needed

by vcf＠vintage.org

This person needs the Internal Data Specifications for the HP71. He's writing a multitasking OS for the HP71. Can you help him? Reply-to: stephane.cocquereaumont-coframi(a)transport.alstom.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:22:11 +0100 From: stephane.cocquereaumont-coframi(a)transport.alstom.com To: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)vintage.org> Subject: [iso-8859-1] Réf. : Re: HP71 IDS Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)vintage.org> le 22/11/2001 22:13:20 Pour : stephane.cocquereaumont-coframi(a)transport.alstom.com cc : Objet : Re: HP71 IDS On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 stephane.cocquereaumont-coframi(a)transport.alstom.com wrote: > Do you have any of the marvellous HP71 IDS in your archive ? > > It can be a great help for me. >I do indeed have an HP71 but I'm not familiar with the IDS. What is that >exactly? IDS is three volumes of Internal Design Specifications. All about the hardware and software, including the OS listing. >What would you be needing this for? The HP71 processor is used on other calcs, like the HP48, and I'am developing a multitasking OS for this calc. I think there was some interesting software in the HP71, the Fort/Assembler pack for example. This can be a great help. Thanks for your reply. -- Stephane Cocquereaumont -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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tektronix phaser

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 12, Dan Wright wrote: > I agree...it's a great print process. I think it has much nicer looking > output then color laser, personally...more photo-like with the glossiness and > all :) It's targeted at an entirely different market than color lasers, so that's not really a valid comparison. But yes, the Phaser III output is *really* impressive. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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tektronix phaser

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Wright [mailto:dtwright@uiuc.edu] > I have a tektronix phaser 340 (which I think is rather less > then 10 years > old, but I'm not certain...) that has started saying "Fault > 05,000.42:8178". > I was wondering if anyone here is familiar with these > printers and/or knows > where I can get a fault code reference for them, because I > really don't want > to pay xerox to fix my printer. I have a feeling this is > something pretty > simple -- the printer was off for a while (like about 3 > months) and then just > started doing this last night. any help would be much appreciated. Well, I had some exposure to a Phaser III, but it's been a while, and I don't think I've ever seen anything like the above message. I suppose you've gone through the whole "check the cables, make sure nothing's stuck, check for grilled cheese in the ink-wells" thing? (The one I used, at least, was a thermal transfer printer. Very nice.) I might also suggest removing the cables, and if there's a NIC, pulling it to see if that's the fault location. Otherwise, it's unfortunate that most people/institutions don't have the good taste to purchase such printers ;) I'd have liked to have more exposure to them. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Smoking around computers

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! > I can't blame her, I got her as a stray, so rodents were ! > probably her main source of food (that and it seems ! > Wendy's french fries since she will claw your eyes out ! > to get to them)... ! ! My wife and I have a cat that we adopted as a kitten. One ! day we stopped by Wendy's on the way home and bought some ! dinner to go. I usually get a Wendy's double, and I had it ! on the kitchen table with the top bun off to add some ! ketchup. Quicker than a bolt of lightning, the kitten ! jumped on the table, grabbed the top slice of meat in her ! mouth, and ran for it. I caught her just before she made ! it off the table, but I did give her (and the rest of the ! cats) the slice she stole. ! -- ! Eric Dittman Just don't leave creamed corn out for my Isabelle. She'll drink all the juice right down... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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Prints for an 11/70

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Wright [mailto:dtwright@uiuc.edu] > Dave McGuire said: > > That's the only thing I don't like about sbus. You can fill up an > > sbus card with three good-sized chips. Ridiculous. > that, and the connectors are evil... I've had no problem with them -- they stick a little sometimes, but that's not too much trouble. I'd rather that than have them fall out. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Linus's first announcement

by gwynp＠artware.qc.ca

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1991Oct5.054106.4647%40klaava.Helsinki .FI This post is over 10 years old so it's a classic. Note the line that goes "Hurd will be out in a year (or two, or next month, who knows)[...]" and giggle. -Philip

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Smoking around computers

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! ... I just wish she would start ! catching the damn mice... its getting cold out, I don't want ! to have to keep pissing on the outside of the house to lower ! the mouse input (yes, that actually works, I realized that ! the spray I was using was simply fox pee, so I decided one ! day to try MY pee, and it works just as well, just ! doesn't last quite as long since it isn't cut with oil to help it ! stick... saves me the $10 a bottle, but I have to re-"spray" ! every few days instead of every week or so... side effect, ! my wife's flower bed has never looked better!) What about just botteling it? And cut it with what ever oil they use too? ! and now this has moved WAY off topic. You could say that. Unless, someone figures out a computerized (like, using a Vax 9000?) tracking and pee-spraying system... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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Smoking around computers

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>This sounds interesting. I'm surprised the cat didn't kill the hamster >playing with it. I think if I hadn't gotten to the cat fast enough, she would have... fortuantly, the cage makes a LOT of noise when the cat would pop it open, and after the 2nd time, I started using the water bottle. I can't blame her, I got her as a stray, so rodents were probably her main source of food (that and it seems Wendy's french fries since she will claw your eyes out to get to them). I just wish she would start catching the damn mice... its getting cold out, I don't want to have to keep pissing on the outside of the house to lower the mouse input (yes, that actually works, I realized that the spray I was using was simply fox pee, so I decided one day to try MY pee, and it works just as well, just doesn't last quite as long since it isn't cut with oil to help it stick... saves me the $10 a bottle, but I have to re-"spray" every few days instead of every week or so... side effect, my wife's flower bed has never looked better!) and now this has moved WAY off topic. -c

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RIP: Betty Holberton

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > My recollection from one of her presentations some years ago was that > > she claimed to have found the first computer bug in the Eniac - a moth > > IIRC - and debugged it by removing said moth. > > > > She was a pretty level headed and down to earth lady. > > ...in spite of the whole COBOL thing. 8-| Crass Obnoxious Bullsh*t- Oriented Language -dq

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Smoking around computers

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 12, Chris wrote: > catching the damn mice... its getting cold out, I don't want to have to > keep pissing on the outside of the house to lower the mouse input (yes, > that actually works, I realized that the spray I was using was simply fox > pee, so I decided one day to try MY pee, and it works just as well, just > doesn't last quite as long since it isn't cut with oil to help it > stick... saves me the $10 a bottle, but I have to re-"spray" every few > days instead of every week or so... side effect, my wife's flower bed has > never looked better!) Admit it, Chris...you just like peeing outside. ;) -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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HP HDSP-2490

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On December 12, Ken Seefried wrote: > Perhaps slightly off-topic (other than being a resonably old part), but > would anyone around here have a datasheet (or, at least, a pin-out) for an > HP HDSP-2490? This is an odd, 4-digit, 5x7 led matrix display. It's in a > 28-pin dip, and looks to have some intellegence built in. > > The answer from HP (nee Agilent) is "long since obsolete, we know nothing". Yeah, after all, NOBODY uses displays anymore. GOD I hate suits. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL

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