- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by nerdware＠ctgonline.org

I've recently come across a Sord IS-11 (I think that was the model number....) with a 64k ram expander, the microcassette drive, and a full set of Eproms. It has all the manuals, but no power supply. Since I haven't heard of one before, and haven't seen on listed on ebay, anyone hear interested? Let me know or it goes in the recycling pile, since I've completely run out of collecting room. Thanks. Paul Braun WD9GCO Cygnus Productions nerdware_nospam(a)laidbak.com "A computer without a Microsoft operating system is like a dog without a bunch of bricks tied to its head."

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WTB: TMS 4060 RAM or Equivalent

by robotron＠ntlworld.com

Hi ... I'm new to this list and I'm not sure if you trade/buy/sell here but I'm looking for some TMS 4060 RAM or Equivalent. Anyone have any or know where I can get some? I need it to repair some 8080 based computers. Thanks in advance .... Dave Langley www.robotron-2084.co.uk

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Does anyone have details about the STC ZEBRA? Tony?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>STC = Stantec = Standard Telephone and Cable. They sold a truly strange >computer called the ZEBRA. It was designed to be cheap (it used a drum >for storage and did arithmetic serially). I used to have two of them... if you are talking about the same Zebra systems I had. I don't know much about them. One of my first duties at this company was to replace them with PCs. They were used to run the "PICK" OS, and in that run an interviewing system called "Oscar". As far as the use I saw them doing, they really were nothing more than a terminal server. They were replaced within weeks with 386 PCs with DigiBoards, and an intel build of PICK and Oscar. IIRC, the Zebra's were based around a Motorola 68000 processor (I think at 16mhz, not sure... this is totally off memory). I do have 2 fairly large manuals for them still (3" binders with an assortment of smaller manuals or "chapters" clipped in them). I might also have a tape backup drive for it, but I think they had tape drives built in, so the external drive I am thinking of may go to my AT&T unix machines. I think I also still have the modem that was used on the Zebras (although, I would guess it is probably nothing more than an fairly standard 300 or 1200 baud modem). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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IBM RT Megapel boards F4COS

by zaft＠azstarnet.com

I have three Megapel video boards for the IBM RT, free for cost of shipping. Preference given to people in the US as it is so much less hassle. I believe them to work but I have no way to test 'em. Contact me offlist if you want one! GZ

23 years, 11 months

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Creating PDF's from scanned image files

by hansp＠aconit.org

I think I have cracked the issue of converting scanned images into PDF using only freeware! First off get the imagemagick toolset from www.imagemagick.org You will also need c42pdf available at http://c42pdf.ffii.org/ c42pdf will create pdf files from group 4 encoded tiff images (only). To get to those images use imagemagick convert : convert -compress group4 <any image file> image.tif c42pdf image.tif will create image.pdf. Read the docs to see how to build multi page PDFs. This has worked for a bunch of files for me so far. -- hbp

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H744 regulator whistle

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> >On Jan 12, 20:14, jpero(a)sympatico.ca wrote: > >> Sounds like PSU is reacting to overloading or medium shorts >> downstream of that PSU outputs. Also can happen with dried >> up capacitors (too high ESR). > >I don't think it's any of those. The regulators all make a similar noise >when I put them on a dummy load drawing 5A, on the bench. And I'm sure >it's not bad caps, as two of them are ones I repaired recently. This is normal for them as well as the older H780. They are very loud and the pitch varies with load as well. That is a side effect of older low voltage, low frequency switch mode PS designs of some 20+ years ago. Allison

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Mac IIci

by tlindner＠ix.netcom.com

> Pat Finnegan wrote: >> I would say about a 386DX, and it'll do about 6MIPS max (one instruction >> per four clock cycles on the 68030 IIRC from my Mac IIsi). (If desired) >> you can put an older verions of MkLinux or linux-m68k on it (I used the >> m68k Debian port). > > How about BSD? I'll probably use the Mac OS, but I wonder about other > options. I remember using BSD on my IIcx. Forget which one though. -- tim lindner tlindner(a)ix.netcom.com "Life. Don't talk to me about life." - Marvin, the android

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H744 regulator whistle

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 12, 20:14, jpero(a)sympatico.ca wrote: > Sounds like PSU is reacting to overloading or medium shorts > downstream of that PSU outputs. Also can happen with dried > up capacitors (too high ESR). I don't think it's any of those. The regulators all make a similar noise when I put them on a dummy load drawing 5A, on the bench. And I'm sure it's not bad caps, as two of them are ones I repaired recently. Maybe I'm just sensitive to that frequency range :-( -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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H744 regulator whistle

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

I have two H744 regulators in my PDP-11/40, along with an H7441, H745, and H754. I also have two spare H744s and one each H745 and H754. All the H744s emit a fairly loud whistle, and it's driving me nuts. I've seen a note somewhere that a loud whistle is caused by the coil de-laminating, but I don't think that's the case. I tried swapping the two original H744s for spares, no difference. I also tried swapping the coil from the spare H745, which runs almost silently, and that made no difference either. I don't think I can just remove (short out) the coil either, as this is a switching regulator and the coil is needed to make it work properly. Any suggestions? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Does anyone have details about the STC ZEBRA? Tony?

by dpeschel＠eskimo.com

STC = Stantec = Standard Telephone and Cable. They sold a truly strange computer called the ZEBRA. It was designed to be cheap (it used a drum for storage and did arithmetic serially). The instruction format is unusual -- 15 function bits (I think each affects a gate) and a 12-bit address of a drum location and a 5-bit address of a "fast store" location (basically a small number of registers). The amount of logic in the machine is small, so the instruction decoding is simple in a sense. But the logic is connected in very subtle ways -- two things can happen independently, or an instruction can set a whole sequence of events in motion. There is an emulator for this machine; I have some of the literature about it too. But I don't have the manual or the schematics, and the literature I have just doesn't make the design "click" into place in my head. The emulator code is not very intuitive either. So that's why I'm hoping someone else has heard of this machine. -- Derek P.S. Tony, I think you would enjoy this design (if you don't already know about it).

23 years, 11 months

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KA655 boot PROM errors

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de wrote: >t 9e lists this codes as: >42 20051269 Check_for_intrs *** >C6 2004D2F0 SSC_powerup ********* >53 2004E8C0 TOY clock repeat_test_250ms_ea Tolerance *** > >TOY clock is OK, as I expect the NiCd akku to be ded. But >"Check_for_intrs" and "SSC_powerup" are not that explanative to me. SSC is the System Support Chip and it sounds as though the diags are finding something wrong with it. I have no docs that detail much about the SSC and nothing that details exactly what the diags are doing. It does sound as though the chip has some sort of serious failure. I *thought* that the SSC provided the console support too - if that's right then it's clearly not completely dead. Did these errors only start when you swapped cards around? Do thigns work when you put things back as they were? Antonio

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H744 regulator whistle

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 13, 2:54, Sipke de Wal wrote: > Sometimes it helps to fasten coils a bit with siliconekit > or araldite, or if a bit of heat is not a problem thermal-glue > Silicone kit has the added benefit of dampening high freq. > vibrations cause it has a somewhat rubbery constitution.... The coils in H7xx regulators are already encapsulated. Sorry, I should have mentioned that. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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KA655 boot PROM errors

by jkunz＠unixag-kl.fh-kl.de

Hi. Every time I switch my MicroVAX 3900 on it says: ----- ?42 2 0C FF 00 0000 P1=2004CBA6 P2=FFFFFF0C P3=00000001 P4=00000000 P5=00000000 P6=00000000 P7=00000000 P8=00000000 P9=00000000 P10=00000000 r0=0000000C r1=00000000 r2=00000042 r3=2014078C r4=20051269 r5=20051096 r6=200550A7 r7=00000000 r8=00000000 ERF=80000000 ?C6 2 01 FF 00 0001 P1=00000000 P2=00000000 P3=00000000 P4=00000000 P5=00000000 P6=00000000 P7=00000000 P8=00000000 P9=00000000 P10=00000000 r0=00000000 r1=00000022 r2=00000080 r3=201407A4 r4=2004D2F0 r5=2004D310 r6=2004D316 r7=00000000 r8=00000000 ERF=80000000 KA655-A V5.3, VMB 2.7 Performing normal system tests. 40..39..38..37..36..35..34..33..32..31.. ?53 2 05 FF 00 0002 P1=00000002 P2=00000028 P3=00000000 P4=00D45577 P5=00000000 P6=FFFFFFFF P7=00000000 P8=00000000 P9=20051BD2 P10=20051CE0 r0=00000001 r1=00000001 r2=00000053 r3=00000000 r4=00000002 r5=2004E8F9 r6=200551A9 r7=00000000 r8=00000000 ERF=82000180 30..29..28..27..26..25.. 24..23..22..21..20..19..18..17..16..15..14..13..12..11..10..09.. 08..07..06..05..04..03.. Normal operation not possible. >>> ----- What does it want to tell me? I get the same if I restart it via the reset button after power up. If it was running for a wile I don't get an error on reset. If I switch the power off for a few secounds I get the error again. NiCd akku? -- tschuess, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz

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3com 3station

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 10:21:25 -0500 (EST) Pat Finnegan <pat(a)purdueriots.com> writes: > By looking at mine, I can tell it uses a VGA monitor, and has 1M of > RAM (upgradable to 5M with SIMMs I have laying around here). Oh yeah, > it looks to be a 20MHz 80286 also. Yeah, that's the later version. I seem to recall that they didn't make too many of those. . . . > > I still have a copy of 3+Share (and 3+Start) around here > > someplace . . . > > That would be nice if you could find it. However, I won't hold my > breath for it. After attempting to hook an old floppy drive up to it's > 34pin connector, I realized it was definately designed for something else > (one orientation froze the box, the other shorted out the power supply > :-( ) Yow! DOes the thing still light up? I never did fighre out what that connector was for. > I'll take that into consideration. Thanks for the help! Sure. Mebbe I'll have to dredge up my copy of 3+Share . . . Jeff ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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OT: DELL SUCKS! Re: PC Gamer, best 50 classic games issue?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>But if you pick the cheapest, you may find they underestimated >what it took to run a profitable company that will survive, and >6 months later are out of business. > >I've seen it. People that bought from cheap local vendors that >offered 5 year, even lifetime, warranties, gone, gone, gone. > >They come and go like sand on the beach. > >If they want a cheap PC, they have probably doomed themselves >to failure from the outset. I agree, but still, my attitude has become (due to years of dealing with windows and the declining quality of PC hardware), that you can spend $3000 on a PC, or you can spend $300 on a PC, and they are both going to work (quality/stability wise) about the same. Either way, you will wind up with problems keeping windows running. Granted 99% of this is due to windows sucking so bad (if you aren't planning on running windows, then this is a totally different situation, but I am only dealing with advise I give to prospective Wintel buyers). As for if a company will be here in 5 years to support the PC, there are no bets that ANY computer company that is here today will still be here 5 years from now. (perfect example of this. A few years ago, my fire department decided to switch from a Mac to a PC since we need to upgrade the computer anyway. The PC people argued that Apple wouldn't be here in 5 years, so don't get a Mac. Us Mac people pointed out that it doesn't matter, because in 5 years the computer will be ready to upgrade anyway. Well, the vote went to get a PC... and to buy a Packard Bell. Well... Apple is still selling Macs... and Packard Bell... well... they are the ones that are gone... so the computer was replaced AGAIN, this time with a Gateway... who now looks to be dying) But I would still support people going to a fly by night, and risk them going under. I don't advise getting long term support contracts anymore, simply because I am so unimpressed with the support you can get. Phone support tends to be luck of the draw. 90% of the time you get a brainless bonehead. On site tends to be just as bad (I might be in one of those "bad contract support" areas for the local "on site" support options... don't know). So why pay 5 times the price to get a "brand name", when it is going to give you the same headaches as the cheaper CompUSA sold, or mom & pop sold PC. At least if you buy from a local vendor (CompUSA, or a mom&pop), you can carry the computer in to them and bitch to a person... you aren't stuck with phone support. And buy going with a cheap mom&pop... you are more likely to get them to fix it. CompUSA will tell you to contact the computer maker. Although, I do hear good things about the local Gateway Country store in doing on the fly repairs on a carry in. But honestly, I just don't recommend Wintel machines AT ALL anymore. I really tell people to look around and find another option. If you want if for games get a console system, if you want it for internet access, get a used PC (I recommend used Win systems over used Macs for an internet only machine, simply because, like it or not, many web sites cater to windows and IE... that and many of the people that ask me about an internet only machine want AOL, and the windows AOL client is much better than the Mac one), and if you want it for general computing, get a Macintosh. Windows blows, and is no longer worth the money and heartache for new machines unless you NEED it for some reason. But that is just my opinion. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Stan Veit's History of the PC Books - Blow Out - $4 Shipped!

by MTPro＠aol.com

I have a number of brand new copies I'd like to move out. This is a super deal just for classiccmp subscribers. Please e-mail me! For more info on the book, see: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1289515294 Best, David David Greelish Classic Computing www.classiccomputing.com "classiccomputing" on eBay

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Free: 3B2 OS tapes

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got two QIC tapes here: - AT&T 3B2 Operating System Utilities Release 3.2.1 V3 120Mb Tape - Operating System Utilities Rel 3.2.1 V3 Issue 2 (1Q93) Free for the cost of postage. Surely someone has a 3b2 and needs an OS.. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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Available: GXT500 video card from RS/6000

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

I've got a GXT500 video card, pulled (or, will be soon) from an IBM RS/6000 42T for sale or trade. Preferrably trade for more RAM for this machine (it currently has 128meg). Mail me if interested - I dont need the card, as I'm going to run the machine headless. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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Looking for Software/Documentation for a Definicon 68020 board (and / or another Definicon baord)

by Bernd.Kopriva＠t-online.de

Hi, some months ago, i got a Definicon 68020 co-processor board without any software and documentation. Paul Santa-Maria send me some software, but i did not manage to get the board working ... ... maybe the software was not the correct one or the board is defect. As i'm really interested in getting the board running, i'm asking again for any software / documentation. Maybe someone can offer me another board (i'm especially interested in the NS32032 board as well) at a reasonable price. Thanks Bernd Bernd Kopriva Phone: ++49-7195-179452 Weilerstr. 24 E-Mail: bernd(a)kopriva.de D-71397 Leutenbach Germany

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Looking for Software/Documentation for a Definicon 68020 board (and / or another Definicon baord)

by Bernd.Kopriva＠t-online.de

Hi, some months ago, i got a Definicon 68020 co-processor board without any software and documentation. Paul Santa-Maria send me some software, but i did not manage to get the board working ... ... maybe the software was not the correct one or the board is defect. As i'm really interested in getting the board running, i'm asking again for any software / documentation. Maybe someone can offer me another board (i'm especially interested in the NS32032 board as well) at a reasonable price. Thanks Bernd Bernd Kopriva Phone: ++49-7195-179452 Weilerstr. 24 E-Mail: bernd(a)kopriva.de D-71397 Leutenbach Germany

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Ugly Computers (Was: RE: Appropritate comic strip....)

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>maybe the anti-NeXT. The "Before"? >I think it's a moderately ugly design, but I asked my employer to get >me one as I'm curious (though I'm not curious enough to get one for >home). They're happy to oblige, so I'll get a chance to see how durably >the critter is constructed. It does seem like it'd be likely to get >broken. I don't think it will be any more prone to breakage than any other LCD display. The base should be just as durable as any other computer, and the swing arm should be no less fragile than the thousands of lamps that have a similar arm on them. If anything, I would think it is MORE durable than many computers, being that apple has done a good job making very durable iBooks. BUT... like all LCD display's, that portion will be prone to cracking if abused. That shouldn't be much of a problem for the standard home user, but for the K-12 market... I have never thought an LCD display (of any kind, from any maker) was a smart idea. Good old heavy glass CRTs take a much better licking than LCD could ever hope to (in testing, it took me a number of swings with the base of a rolling chair to break thru the glass of a VGA monitor, but my laptop LCD cracked with only mild weight placed on it when I stepped on it) In the long run, it is probably unlikely that too many people from this list will "get it" with the new iMac. The reason being is, the new design is going after the market of people that want a computer to fit around their life style. So they are trying to go after the "its furniture" market. The nature of most of the people on THIS list are ones that like a computer to BE a computer... a nice traditional, boxy, blinking light, noisy COMPUTER. Apple has been moving farther and farther away from that kind of market. This list is full of people who's life works around the computer, and apple wants the market where the computer works around life. I mean really, the target market for the new iMac is certainly not a group of people that tend to rent storage garages just to store their extra PDPs (You aren't going to get a new iMac user group where the people discuss staying warm in their storage shed by sitting on top of a mini while writing code on an old portable and its 5" screen!) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Atari games in limestone cavern

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/11/2002 9:47:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, rhblakeman(a)kih.net writes: << When I got rid of the last of my 2600/7800 carts I sold 25 of them for 10 bucks - we were totally bored with them after playing for many years. It's all in how bad the seller wants to get rid of them. >> depends. carts like combat and football and all those boring atari ones are pennies a dozen. the better ones from activision are more of course, river raid was the best. now, where did i put my atari 2600 power supply..... -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

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Continuing PDP11 saga

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 9, 18:19, Tom Leffingwell wrote: > > I think I finally get the picture on the addressing...However, > that raises two more questions. If my program is trying to talk to a > 22-bit address, and I have 18-bit addressing, will it not work, or will it > be converted? It will be converted. When the CPU is running a program, it only uses 16-bit addresses in the program. The MMU treats anything above 160000 as an access to the I/O page, and remaps it. > Also, if my backplane becomes 22-bit (by replacing it or > adding the jumpers for the other 4 bits) does everything automagically > change to 22-bit, or do you change a jumper on the M8186, or on the MSV11, > or both? It automagically works, except for a very few cases (and I can't even think of an example at the moment). The reason is that most I/O devices actually decode a signal called BBS7 (Bus Bank Select 7) instead of the highest address bits. The signal gets its name from the fact that the original LSI-11 used 16-bit addressing, and bank 7 was the I/O page. It's still only activated for I/O page access, regardless of whether your processor uses 16- 18- or 22-bit addressing. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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OT: Hate to belabour the point...

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 11, Sellam Ismail wrote: > ...but today's San Jose Mercury News has a very timely article on how > Dell's customer support sucks big elephant testicles. Are there such things as *small* elephant testicles? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Atari games in limestone cavern

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Odd subject I know, but sometime last year there was a story of a guy in California (ish) who had 2 million Atari 2600/7800 games in a cavern somewhere and he was selling them for $2 a pop..... Anyone got a link to him? also, anyone got a spare boxed Magnavox Oddysey they'd like to pass on to a UK computer museum? :) I'm talking money here....though donations are always welcome! -- witchy/adrian www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans Linux Powered!

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Ugly Computers (Was: RE: Appropritate comic strip....)

by vaxzilla＠jarai.org

On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > It's looking pretty certain that the Twentieth > Anniversary Mac will be youngest Macintosh that > will *ever* be in my collection... > > Lampintosh? > > Easily-Broken-In-Two-In-Tosh? > > Smackintosh? (what I want to do to it) Well, first we had MacOS X, the revamp of NeXTstep. Then we had the G4 Cube, an obvious though modernized callback to the NeXT Cube design. Now it's like they've tried to create something that's entirely non-NeXT, at least asthetically. Basing the design on a white sphere places it completely opposite the black cube of the NeXT. So I'd call it the notaNeXTintosh, or maybe the anti-NeXT. I think it's a moderately ugly design, but I asked my employer to get me one as I'm curious (though I'm not curious enough to get one for home). They're happy to oblige, so I'll get a chance to see how durably the critter is constructed. It does seem like it'd be likely to get broken. -brian.

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VAX 11/780s - Masscomp - Valid equipment available

by auringer＠tds.net

Mark Tapley wrote: > You are probably way ahead of me on this, but tapes of the O/S's and other > hardware, where available, might be well appreciated by the machines' > ultimate owners - or owners of similar machines. All of the system software is being preserved. The tapes I was referring to are the hundreds of backup tapes that line the walls of the computer rooms (and elsewhere!). > Good luck and thanks very much for all your work! Thanks for the thought. It has been a bit of a headache. > Are there any NeXT or Digital Group (not DEC) or Balcones Microcomputer > systems there? Long shots, I know, but thought I'd ask. None of those, sorry. Later, Jon

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Looking for VMS 5.5-1 CDROM

by vaxman＠earthlink.net

Anybody got one? TK50 would work too, but I'd prefer CDROM.... Contact me off-list, and we can discuss what I'll trade for it... Clint

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What exactly is a MINC-11, and does anyone need one?

by auringer＠tds.net

Hello all, Another item I keep forgetting about is a digital MINC-11. This appears to be a data acquisition system of some sort. The MINC chassis contains only a clock card and an AD card. The chassis is on a cart that also contains a digital RX02 dual 8" floppy drive enclosure. The most curious thing is that there is a label stuck to the front warning that the unit "220VAC/50Hz only". I don't know if this is the only voltage it will run at, or if it is simply set for this voltage. I don't believe we ever used this equipment. I think we acquired it when we purchased some other surplus equipment back in the 1980s. Can anyone use this thing? Later, Jon Jon Auringer auringer(a)tds.net Astronautics Technology Center Madison, WI

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Atari games in limestone cavern

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Odd subject I know, but sometime last year there was a story of a guy in >California (ish) who had 2 million Atari 2600/7800 games in a cavern >somewhere and he was selling them for $2 a pop..... > >Anyone got a link to him? I just threw that link out yesterday! I will try to remember when I get back to work on monday to check my web history and pull it back up (that is, if someone else doesn't offer the link before then) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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IBM System/34...

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/11/2002 9:24:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, out2sea00(a)yahoo.com writes: << >:-0 What a horror story. If I can be of help please let me know. I have no idea about the operating condition of the 5362 arriving next week. If it runs maybe I will be able to do a bit of data recovery through a 5152 emulation. But I don't have any docs at all so I haven't a clue how to hack the login and recover any OS still extant on the system. If you have docs or suggestions to that end, please share them. >> someone in alt.folklore.computers emailed me the instructions on how to crack the login passwoid. i'll see where I put that document. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

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5 inch CRT available

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

clearing more goodies out. such much faster and easier than epay, that's for sure. motorola 5inch display in a small cage with electronics like flyback, etc. has connector on back for interfacing. from a xeroxed paper that's in the box, it says standard CGA resolution and gives pinouts. label sez mod #MD1000-390a. from 1986 and is unused. make an offer which will allow me serveral steak burritos at taco bell and its yours. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

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Musicians (and computer music)

by mranalog＠attbi.com

M H Stein <mhstein(a)usa.net> > Don't I recall correctly that someone (Jay?) tracked him down > in Korea, but that he was going to be back soon? I said that when I talked to Hal Chamberlin in 1999 he was in Korea. When I talked to him last weekend he did not mention where he was, but I don't think he's still in Korea. Someone on the list is currently working on getting more information on the HAL-4096. That information should available soon. > Maybe he's got something to contribute to posterity when he gets > back from Korea. I thought he already had. Regards, --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward @ home in Poulsbo, WA Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog Analogrechner, calculateur analogique, calcolatore analogico, analoogrekenaar, komputer analogowy, analog bilgisayar, kampiutere ghiyasi, analoge computer. =========================================

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IBM System/34...

by out2sea00＠yahoo.com

< ... I need to get my hands on disk images of the microcode, SSP, and RPG II diskettes for an IBM S/34.... > Daniel -- >:-0 What a horror story. If I can be of help please let me know. I have no idea about the operating condition of the 5362 arriving next week. If it runs maybe I will be able to do a bit of data recovery through a 5152 emulation. But I don't have any docs at all so I haven't a clue how to hack the login and recover any OS still extant on the system. If you have docs or suggestions to that end, please share them. Thanks, Colin Eby Senior Consultant CSC Consulting __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

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Ugly Computers (Was: RE: Appropritate comic strip....)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Have a look at this comic strip... (Wednesday's strip) It's looking pretty certain that the Twentieth Anniversary Mac will be youngest Macintosh that will *ever* be in my collection... Lampintosh? Easily-Broken-In-Two-In-Tosh? Smackintosh? (what I want to do to it) <shudder> -dq

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VAX 6000-460 booting saga continues ...

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, after a quick excursion in getting a PDP8/A up and running (as far as that gets without any peripherals other than the programmers console :-), I'm now back to the big toy. The 6460 is still waiting to boot Ultrix. Recap: it's up and running from VMS 7.2 or VMX 5.6 from RA90 disks through KDB50 and KDM70. I don't have any working IP communication because the VMS 5.6 just doesn't have anything and 7.2 has MULTINET which just refuses to run with the old license key, nor with a cheat hack, nor with a hobbyist license key. So I'm now down to transferring files through modemspeed. (I could write a TK70 or 9-track tape at my workplace, but that's a hassle by itself, so I keep that as a last restort.) Luckily I have kermit on the VMS 7.2 so I have a convenient yet slow way of transferring files. I also have a boot tape from Isildur. That's Ultrix 4.1. That version seems to not support the 6400, it boots up until a certain point and then simply halts. I'm very sure it is *not* a tape read error and that the boot process fails somewhere after the VMB is loaded and probably at the point where vmunix is started. I assume it just can't get a hold of the console at that time to put out an error message and just dies. Even the primary ultrixload will dump an error message before it halts. The more recent developments: I also have an Ultrix-4.5 CD. But no CD ROM hooked to the VAX and no other VAX (InfoServer) with CD ROM and so I cannot boot that. I could possibly just write the CD ROM image onto a disk verbatim and fingers crossed boot from it. However, I cannot pump the 178 MB through the 9600 b/s line, or else I have to have that thing up for 2 days and two nights only for something that might just plain not work. Interestingly this CD is not an ISO file system but a simple UFS written to the CD in 10 kB blocks. FreeBSD's mount unfortunately cannot mount that. However, I just dd'ed an image onto disk and vnconfig - mount form there. It's read-only and disklabel doesn't make any sense out of it, but I can read everything just fine. Today's news: So, I decided I make myself a bootable tape from the reverse engineered Ultrix 4.1 boot tape and the new 4.5 files from the CD. The Ultrix boot tape comes with a vmunix that apparently has some sort of standalone memory root file system. Then it supposedly is able to set up a disk and install a dump backup onto that disk. That dump backup contains mkfs, disklabel, ifconfig, rcp, uncompress, and tar, so I have everything to set myself up even if the autoinstaller cannot deal with my hack. The boot tape I could read from VMS. $ MOUNT/FOREIGN/BLOCKSIZE=512/RECORD=512 MUC6 $ COPY MUC6: FILE.00 $ COPY MUC6: FILE.01 $ COPY MUC6: FILE.02 --> ERROR $ DISMOUNT MUC6: $ MOUNT/FOREIGN/BLOCK=10240/RECORD=10240 MUC6 $ SET MAGTAPE /SKIP=FILE:2 $ COPY MUC6: FILE.02 $ COPY MUC6: FILE.03 $ COPY MUC6: FILE.04 $ COPY MUC6: FILE.05 ... and so on. It's got some 40 or so files on it. What there files are we are being told from the ultrixload.c source code. FILE.00 is the ultrixload image, about 18 kB in size. Ultrixload is said to load either vmb.exe or a standalone kernel from a non-file structured device. The layout of the boot device is descibed as: FILE.00 - ultrixload FILE.01 - a combo consisting of - descriptor block 1 512 byte block - vmb.exe (optional) - vmunix (compressed if not a TK50) This magic descriptor block is described as: struct desc { union { char pad[512]; struct { struct exec x; /* a.out image header */ int nblks; /* num of 512 byte blocks on medium */ int vmbblks; /* size of VMB in 512 byte blocks */ int compressed; /* 1 = compressed, 0 = not compressed */ } d } un }; By loading the initial portions of the other files down to my BSD system and using file and stuff, I figured the other files: FILE.02 - the ROOT file system dump FILE.03 - an uncompressed tar of the instctl files (on the CD) FILE.04 - a compressed tar that is called ULTBASE450 on the CD FILE.05 - a compressed tar that is called ULTBIN450 on the CD ... and so on. The instctl tar begins with a file called ULT.image and that is just a list of files beginning with ROOT, ULTBASE, ULTBIN, that apparently correspond with the files on the tape in that order. So, my plan is to fiddle with files 0 and 1 only and keep the rest, as it should be compatible with the 4.5 kernel. That reduces the amount of data to transfer tremendously. Quickly I found that I have no ultrixload on the CD, so the old version will have to do. As I have strong indication that that works, I can leave it at that. Remains to work on file 1, that funny combo of descriptor, vmb.exe and vmunix. The tar file 4 (ULTBASE) contains a vmb.exe as well and so I could compare the two files that came with ultrix 4.1 and 4.5 respectively. They were both the same size and actually both the same. I successfully extracted another exact copy of vmb.exe using dd if=file.01 bs=512 of=vmb.exe skip=1 count=86 So, whatever VMB.EXE is for (sounds like a VMS boot block), I can reuse the old one. Given that I have a standalone vmunix, all I'd need to do is cut and paste that somewhere after block 86 to the end of file 1 with a few cat and dd operations. But here the problem starts. I cannot interpret the descriptor block very well. It tells me that the VMB.EXE is 86 blocks in size and that is exactly 44032 bytes, that corresponds with the actual size of the vmb.exe file from the tar archives. Good, but apparently the vmunix is not a complete piece. Apparently that descriptor block's a.out header slot actually holds the a.out header from the vmunix file and the vmunix file is right after the vmb.exe without it's a.out header. I also see a lot of 0 data in that region. So apparently I will have to fiddle with that a.out header and need to know just where to cut vmunix. That is a problem. I will try to figure that out somehow. My hunch is that the a.out block (which I haven't been fiddling with since I ported Kyoto Common Lisp to 386/BSD 0.1) allows for the executable to actually have some other stuff like that vmb.exe before the actual start of the executable image. I have no idea though what the purpose of this stupid vmb.exe is. All in all I'm optimistic. I'd love to make a boot tape with 4.5 Ultrix that I could then share with my friends (that is you) who also want to get their 6400s converted to Unix. As always I'd be thankful for any helpful ideas you might have. regards, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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Ugly Computers (Was: RE: Appropritate comic strip....)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 11, Brian Chase wrote: > I think it's a moderately ugly design, but I asked my employer to get > me one as I'm curious (though I'm not curious enough to get one for > home). They're happy to oblige, so I'll get a chance to see how durably > the critter is constructed. It does seem like it'd be likely to get > broken. I'm all for quality construction, but this makes me want to ask...just how rough ARE you with your computers? 8| -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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DPC Interface Inquiry

by tarsi＠binhost.com

Got a good one, folks. A friend of mine is trying to use a Spur U.S.A.-1/DPC(7U) box. Spur U.S.A being the model and DPC being sub-model. I guess he knows that U.S.A. stands for Universal Subsystem Adaptor and DPC stands for Data Products C????. It takes input from a 50-pin amp connector and outputs to an IBM Channel Bus & Tag. He knows what the box does and has a Bus & Tag box to use it with, but can't figure out what DPC is or where to find the 50-pin amp connector or the pinouts for it. Anyone help out? Thanks! Tarsi 210 -- ---------------------------------------------- Homepage: http://tarsi.binhost.com binHOST.com: http://www.binhost.com Forever Beyond: http://www.foreverbeyond.org ----------------------------------------------

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eMag Solutions LLC announces end of life plan for open reel ( 9-track) tape

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Aw Geeze.... is this really the end? I would go nuts if I couldn't get 9 > track mag tapes anymore. Pretty much everything in my collection depends on > it. The note says emag is the last manufacturer. Is that in the US, or in > the world? I'm wondering if they will still be available for purchase, but > will originate from overseas manufacturers. I had posted disbelief about this in alt.sys.pdp10... I'd not heard of eMag, but if eMag is EMTEC Magnetics GmbH, then that's BASF! They didn't quite invent magnetic tape, but they claim to have been the first to have commercial success with it. If BASF is abandoning 9-track magtape, then I fear it's true, the end is near... Don Lancaster (yes, *the* Don lancaster) is selling new reels on E-Bay on a regular basis... bought two reels last year. So, I'll be stocking up on new and used tapes, for sure... -dq

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pinging Brian Hechinger...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Is he just off on another trip? I sent him a private message the other day, about some goods for him, and haven't heard a reply yet... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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(fwd) Free Radio Shack Model 100 computers (fwd)

by jpl15＠panix.com

Forwarded from a newsgroup for possible interest: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:51:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: (fwd) Free Radio Shack Model 100 computers -- forwarded message -- From: test2(a)pactec.net (Dave) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.swap,rec.radio.swap Subject: Free Radio Shack Model 100 computers Date: 11 Jan 2002 09:28:49 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ I have 11 Radio Shack Model 100 laptop PCs and 5 associated Chipmunk 3.5" floppy drives sitting in the radio shop at work. We no longer need them and I wanted to offer them free to anyone who might want them before we throw them out. Only one manual. You pay only the shipping. Dave N7BHC (909) 389-1122 -- end of forwarded message --

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Compukit UK101

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > Sent: 10 January 2002 19:43 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Compukit UK101 > > Well, FWIW, the articles I have say time and again that if > the machine > ever fails to respond to the keyboard, the first thing to > check is that > Shift Lock is down :-) > And guess what! Working system.....grr....:) Now to attempt repair on the other one and maybe try and work out what all the spare boards I've got do! One is supposed to be a colour display, there's one with a Big Speaker on (hmm :) plus half a dozen others. l8r a

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Reading PET tapes (was Re: Apple disk -> MSDOS)

by mhstein＠usa.net

Some questions for the CBM experts: CBM->PC seems pretty trivial through a Parallel or Serial adapter (although ML might be tricky 'cause you can't just list it), but how do you get it back to a CBM? If you're just archiving, couldn't you just connect the CBM cassette port to the PC sound card line in&out, with _maybe_ a little padding and/or shaping since I think CBM, unlike most folks of that era, squared up the audio a little in the datasette (although ISTR that it usually worked OK with a normal recorder, and presumably you could set the levels with the PC volume controls)? Especially if there's an app that can decode the .wav files, what else do ya need? Reminds me of the days when I "networked" my PETs with a 40' cassette "Null modem" cable. Where could I find that cassette reader & .wav decoder, BTW? Tell us more! F'rinstance, I see someone elsewhere on the list looking for Phuzzy-Wuzzy; I remember it well and probably have it somewhere (although I didn't find it either in the Cursor tape index). So, if I do find it and this person wants it, how, specifically, could I email it to him/her in a format that he/she could load into the PET without having to build anything complicated (or mailing the actual tape)? Seems to me this goes on all the time in the amazingly active CBM community, I'm just not sure of the exact details (cable pinouts, required software, etc.) BTW, need a chiclet keyboard? Just recently tossed my small KB 2001 (yes, working - I can hear the curses...) but I think I've got at least two almost new chiclet keyboards (no worn-off legends, protective plastic still on most keys) left >from the days when we were replacing them with the full-size ones (that's me, toss the good stuff & keep the junk). Mind you, you might have to take the case with it, along with the funky chopped-up datasette. Also have a 2001 motherboard, maybe 2. BTW, speaking of CBM, I recall a recent discussion abt using a US 8032 in the UK and problems with a wavy screen (not to mention learning a lot about magnetic shielding); I wasn't positive at the time, but from what I've read there definitely (as definite as the printed word gets) was a different ROM for 50Hz operation to avoid that problem. mike ---------------------Original Message----------------------- From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Reading PET tapes (was Re: Apple disk -> MSDOS) - --- Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > > My X1541 cable also has a 6-pin C= cassette port on it. I have read > > many PET tapes directly from DOS with a real C2N tape recorder. > > How is the cassette data read by the PC? Does it decode the audio? Not audio (though there is an app that will decode .WAV files of PET tapes). Someone wrote a DOS app that reads the parallel port bits and converts them into a .T64 file directly. For alignment/phase, there's a graphical mode that scrolls the data up the screen along with "guard bands" that show where the app thinks a 0 and a 1 are. You use the cursor keys to align the data from the tape drive and the guard bands for optimal data parsing. Once you have an offset >from this process, you can use it as a command-line parameter for bulk reading. It works well enough, but I really wish the source were available (it never seems to be for DOS programs, unlike Unix and Amiga software). I have a small pile of PET Rabbit-format tapes that I want to extract from. My BASIC 2.0 PET needs repair (keyboard problems), so I can't just read the data and save it to disk. I have plenty of 8032s, but only one 2001 (got the 80-col PETs from university surplus for $10 a few years ago; we got the 40-col, 32K PET when I was grade-school for $1175). - -ethan

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pinging Brian Hechinger...

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Okay, thanks. Well, if anyone has another way to gat ahold of him, the VAX 4000 he's buying from us will be ready for pickup next week. Also wondering if the 2 4d/35's he offered are still available... He can call my work phone number... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 ! -----Original Message----- ! From: Matt London [mailto:classiccmp@knm.yi.org] ! ! ! Hi, ! ! On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote: ! ! > Is he just off on another trip? I sent him a private message the ! > other day, about some goods for him, and haven't heard a ! reply yet... ! ! He's waiting for his frame relay line to be installed and is ! without email ! for the moment. ! ! Hopefully not for long :&) ! ! -- Matt ! ! --- ! Web Page: ! http://knm.org.uk/ ! http://pkl.net/~matt/ !

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Old TV show

by mhstein＠usa.net

Just curious: anybody here ever see a TV show back in the 80's called Bits and Bytes, exploring the PETs, Apples, TI99's etc. of the day and starring Billy Van (Laugh-In) and Luba Goy (Cdn Air Farce)? mike

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(fwd) FS: Dauphin DTR-1 computer (fwd)

by jpl15＠panix.com

Forwarded from a newsgroup for any possible interest: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:52:06 -0500 (EST) From: John Lawson <jpl15(a)panix.com> Subject: (fwd) FS: Dauphin DTR-1 computer -- forwarded message -- From: test2(a)pactec.net (Dave) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.swap,rec.radio.swap Subject: FS: Dauphin DTR-1 computer Date: 11 Jan 2002 09:32:23 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ FS: Dauphin DTR-1 pen/tablet computer. 486SLC processor. $50. Dave N7BHC (909) 389-1122 -- end of forwarded message --

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VAX 6400 booting saga: barred from using MULTINET (sigh!)

by mrfusion＠uranium.club.cc.cmu.edu

you could also try to install CMU-IP. what version of VMS is this? it was once a popular free tcpip for VMS.. it should still be findable around here somewhere in some dusty directory on an ftp server.. On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Gunther Schadow wrote: > - Screw multinet and find some DECnet implementation for FreeBSD. > Heck, obviously Linux has a DECnet support, so why don't we? > The serial port is just not an option to move the several > hundred MB of ULTRIX data over. Also, an ultrix box has decnet support as well. Isildur

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HP-125 CPM computer for sale

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I spotted this on E-bay and thought some of you might be interested. Don Maslin has SW for this. I own a 125 and I can tell anything that you need to know about them. E-mail directly since I'm not on the list any more. <http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1318084983> Joe

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Wyse WY-50

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I went to university salvage today, and along with a bunch of WY-60's they had one lone WY-50. If anyone is interested, I'm willing to ship it for what ever it costs me plut $5. Best guess, it'll cost $5 to purchase, but I have no clue how much to ship. I should be able to find packing material and a box around here for free, though. It it's wanted, I'll go Tuesday to pick it up. -- Pat West Lafayette, IN 47906

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3com 3station

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

The 3Station was an early IBM compatible diskless workstation. They used a 12Mhz 80286 IIRC. The network boot protocol was proprietary to 3COM, but once you were linked to a disk image on a Server running 3+Share (and 3+Start) you could use any protocol that had drivers for the NIC on the 3Station. There were two version of the 3Station; the main differences being Video and maximum memory size. It seems like there were ROM's available that allowed you to use it on a Novell network, but I don't remember the details. I don't think using it as an X-Station is a good idea-- I strongly suspect you'll need a bit more muscle to do X. Besides, if it's the earlier model 3c1100 (very likely) it can only do EGA, MDA or (yeek) CGA. I still have a copy of 3+Share (and 3+Start) around here someplace . . . That remark about the 3Server needing constant attention was right on the mark. I lost quite a few nights sleep maintaining one of these beasties (my first SYSADMIN job). I could almost run the diags in my sleep after awhile. The backup system almost never worked. Jeff On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:06:55 -0600 Jon Auringer <auringer(a)tds.net> writes: > Hey Pat, > > Pat Finnegan wrote: > > > I just picked up a 3com 3station for a few $$ at university > salvage today. > > It seems to be a rather neat little system. Inside it has a > header (J9) > > that appears to be a floppy disk connector (34pin header). Does > anyone > > know anymore about these things or have software for it (it'd be > nice to > > use it as an Xterminal, but who knows if that'll ever work...) > > I don't have direct information on the 3station, but I do have a > 3server. The 3server is based on a 80186 processor. Luckily it was > pulled from service here before I took over. I recall that is was in > need of almost constant attention. I will see if the documentation I > have includes the 3station or any other pertinent information. Time > permitting, of course. :) > > Later, > Jon > > Jon Auringer > auringer(a)tds.net ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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More transputer auctions...

by rmeenaks＠olf.com

Hi, Check out the following transputer-based auctions running on Yahoo! I am NOT associated with this auction, contact the buyer for any details: Inmos B404 processing TRAM, this is a T800 transputer, 2MB dram with some static ram. http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/uk/auction/59758007 Processing TRAM, single size, with T425 transputer and 1MB DRAM, http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/uk/auction/59758028 Inmos B008 10 TRAM 16 bit ISA transputer motherboard for PC http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/uk/auction/59758052 Transtech TMB16 10 TRAM 16 bit ISA transputer motherboard for PC http://page.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/uk/auction/59758161 Cheers, Ram -- ,,,, /'^'\ ( o o ) -oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------- | Ram Meenakshisundaram | | Senior Software Engineer | | OpenLink Financial Inc | | .oooO Phone: (516) 227-6600 x267 | | ( ) Oooo. Email: rmeenaks(a)olf.com | ---\ (----( )-------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/

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Reading PET tapes (was Re: Apple disk -> MSDOS)

by mhstein＠usa.net

As asked elsewhere: If I find it & Sellam doesn't, how would I get it to ya in a useful format? mike ------------------Original Message---------------- From: Bryan Pope <bpope(a)wordstock.com> Subject: Re: Reading PET tapes (was Re: Apple disk -> MSDOS) Ok then... Do you have "Phuzzy and Wuzzy go to the Moon"? It was a short "movie" for the PET. Bryan

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IBM System/34...

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> my DEC Rainbow, miscellaneous PDP-10,PDP-11 and IBM manuals, and miscellaneous > office equipment. Then, after depositing the remains in the dumpster, they > called us out to observe their handiwork and ridicule us.) I don't know what I'd have done had this happened to me. But I recently saw the following .sig line that expresses an almost appropriate opinion: > W > . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because > \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est > ---^----^--------------------------------------------------------------- Grrr.... -dq

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What to do with an empty BA23

by classiccmp＠knm.yi.org

Hi guys, I'm sat here wondering what I should do with this empty BA23 I've got. I'd like to get another machine up and running, either VAX or PDP, but I don't have the bits :&) If anyone in the UK has any spare bits kicking about, I'd be intrested, if not, I might be able to arrange shipping from the US. If all else fails, anyone think of an alternative use for a BA23? :&) Otherwise it's just going to carry on what it's been doing so far - sat on the side gathering dust :&/ On another note - anyone in the UK with a spare QBus ethernet card (DELQA or such) they're willing to part with? I'd love to get my MVII on the network here :&) -- Matt --- Web Page: http://knm.org.uk/ http://pkl.net/~matt/

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Apple disk -> MSDOS

by mhstein＠usa.net

Very useful indeed, although I do prefer an external P-S converter; cheap, nothing to build, and plugs into anything with a serial port. Also love those KB converters for an easy way to get contact closures or serial data into unfriendly PC apps. On a semi-related note, does anyone know of a program that can read a text file and send it to a Windows app as keyboard input like the DOS keyboard emulators of old? Or can I do that with the Win Scripting Host? mike -----------------Original Message-------------------- From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Subject: Re: Apple disk -> MSDOS A fairly useful thing to have/build is a computer with a parallel 'printer' input. <snip>

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Musicians (and computer music)

by mhstein＠usa.net

Don't I recall correctly that someone (Jay?) tracked him down in Korea, but that he was going to be back soon? mike -----------------Original Message-------------------- From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Musicians (and computer music) <snip> >>Hal Chamberlin <snip> >> Maybe he's got something to contribute to posterity when he gets >> back from Korea. >Korea?

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Continuing PDP11 saga

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 9, 20:54, Tom Leffingwell wrote: > Besides being able to map memory up to 2MW, is there any advantage > to being 22-bit over 18-bit? Not that I can think of. > Also, can you think of any cheaply available Q-bus module that I > could set the address of to match the ADV11? I called 3 surplus places, > all of whom wanted $750 - $1,000 for their ADV11's! I talked one guy down > to $350 for one with a bad A-D converter, but was still addressable. > That's still a lot, especially for a broken board. Ouch! Sorry, I can't think of anything else offhand. Besides, if the software is checking for the presence of the board, it might write some initialisation value to it and try to read its status back. That would most likely fail if you had the wrong device at that address. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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What to do with an empty BA23

by spedraja＠ono.com

Somebidy has one unused rackable BA23 for sale/trade/donate ? (Whispering) Greetings Sergio -----Mensaje original----- De: Matt London <classiccmp(a)knm.yi.org> Para: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Fecha: viernes, 11 de enero de 2002 0:07 Asunto: Re: What to do with an empty BA23 >Hi, > >> > If all else fails, anyone think of >> > an alternative use for a BA23? :&) >> According to: http://world.std.com/~bdc/projects/vaxen/vaxgeektop10.html >> Is it the blank rackmountable case, or do you have the plastic revetment >> with foor stand? If yes put a pillow on it and you have a nice seat. >> That was what I used my BA23 for at the LinuxTag 2000. I had a MV II in >> it running 4.3BSD-Tahoe. Quite funny. Especially as it attracted other >> geeks. (Including a bearded man with a RedHat... :-) ) > >Nah - it's rackmount :&) > >I met / chatted to a bearded man with a RedHat after Linux Expo 2000 in a >pub - it was Alan Cox :&) > >-- Matt > >--- >Web Page: > http://knm.org.uk/ > http://pkl.net/~matt/ >

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"Locking Connector Kits" for LocalTalk

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

Today, I received my neat-o thing for the week, an ISA card for LocalTalk, the software, and an Apple LocalTalk Locking Connector Kit for DB-9 (don't beat on me for calling DB-9, that's what the package sez, 'k? :-). Elation rapidly turned to consternation when I realised the connector box doesn't take the PhoneNET wiring, of which I have scads, but rather the annoying Apple four-conductor locking-style cables. Anyone out there have some converter box that will allow me to plug my existing PhoneNET wiring into this? I'd like to get the PC speaking LocalTalk to the apartment LocalTalk segment, and if possible, I'd like to get the Commodore on it also with this (being ignorant of the major differences, the Commodore's SwiftLink has a regular RS-232 9-pin DE-9 on the end ... could the Apple "DB-9" kit plug directly into that?). -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- FORTUNE: Don't abandon hope: your Tom Mix decoder ring arrives tomorrow. ---

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test

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

please ignore

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Convergent Technologies Workstation password recovery/reset

by celt＠chisp.net

Picked up this beast at thrift store this morning. It's a Convergent Technologies Workstation made by Unisys. Powering it up produces the following (my added comments in parentheses): T *************** L (hard disk activity begins here, LED '1' lights up) ................................... ................................... ................................... ................................... ..... (screen clears) a240MstrpMP-9.1/00 (screen clears) SysInit 9.15 There will be a momentary delay as the system now begins loading $JOB Sysinit,, Execution begun: Sat Mar 1, 1952 12:00M $RUN [d0]<sys>InstallQMgr.run Termination status code: 0 $RUN [d0]<sys>InstallSPL.run Termination status code: 0 $Run [Sys]<Sys>SPrint.run (4 beeps here) Termination status code: 0 $END Execution ended: Sat Mar 1, 1952 12:00M (screen clears) SysInit 9.15 LUTHERAN SOCIAL SERVICES OF CO System Signon User Name Password Date/Time ----- There's a reference to a company in Minnesota called Service Information Systems, but their number has been disconnected. Probably dead or bought out and absorbed years ago. A Unisys Service Identification tag on the back of the CRT has: Service Number TP-191050 Style Number OM-1001 ZZ and a tag at the base of the unit has: Convergent Technologies Workstation Product Number 99-01640 Serial Number A-26671 This is mounted next to a tag stating 'No User Servicable Parts' (along with dire warnings about voiding your warranty, burning your extended family at the stake, and having your knees broken with baseball bats by guys with crooked noses named 'Vinny', should you dare to open the case.) I'd like to be able to clear the original owners' information off the drive and start over, but I'm unfamiliar with the OS and haven't had any luck getting past the login. Unisys has remade itself as an e-Business Solutions Provider, and their website has no useful information; a call to their tech support produced responses of 'Uhhh...' and 'You have a what?' along with muffled laughter. I think the 'a240MstrpMP-9.1/00' means that it's running CTOS 9.1, but I haven't been able to dig up any useful info on the unit itself, or the OS. Any ideas? Mike http://tarnover.org The Apple II Repository

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OT: DELL SUCKS! Re: PC Gamer, best 50 classic games issue?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>We have a local computer shop that (last week) had as-is 3c589 NICs >for $5, but no dongle. I bought a couple spares, and a Xircom PS-CEM-28 >(also no dongles). Hopefully the 10BaseT dongle I have for another >Xircom card will work (the 100BaseT dongles _are_ different). I saw some generic dongles down at the CompUSA a little while back. They were $25. The blister pack said it worked with 3com and other PCMCIA cards. I used it successfully with a XIRCOM 10bt/56k modem card (only with the Ethernet half... modem used a different connection, but that looked similar to the one that fit in my old ActionTec modem, I just never got around to trying it). The dongle also said it worked with 10/100 ethernet. There are no markings on the dongle of value (it is here in front of me) so I can't tell you the brand, but I do know for sure I bought it at CompUSA -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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ENIAC [Was: Re: Appropritate comic strip....]

by msell＠ontimesupport.com

Has anyone ever attempted to recreate all or part of the ENIAC? Maybe as part of a CS project or museum? Just curious..... - Matt At 11:45 AM 1/10/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Have a look at this comic strip... (Wednesday's strip) > >http://www.rockwoodcomic.com/ > >--- David A Woyciesjes >--- C & IS Support Specialist >--- Yale University Press >--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu >--- (203) 432-0953 >--- ICQ # - 905818 Matthew Sell Programmer On Time Support, Inc. www.ontimesupport.com (281) 296-6066 Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST! http://www.ontimesupport.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...

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OT: DELL SUCKS! Re: PC Gamer, best 50 classic games issue?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>I really think the cheaper the hardware is, statistically >speaking, the more problematic it will be. Lower selling >cost goes hand in hand with less competent and lower paid >designers, programmers ( for device drivers ), smaller >support staff, less design and testing time alloted, minimalized >QC, etc. Agreed 100%, but when you factor in that 99% of the problems with a windows PC is caused by windows, then the lower quality hardware starts to not matter. If I was building an "intel" PC for use with something other than windows (or with something that quality makes a difference, like a mission critical server), then I would advise quality parts. I also take a totally different stance when it comes to buying a "business grade" PC. My advice points are strictly geared towards the consumer level, home PC, running the latest home user version of windows. For the average joe consumer, that can't understand what right-click means... then the cost invested in higher quality parts is a waste of money in my book. The only parts that I avoid like the plague are motherboards made by PC Chips. I have found them to be highly unreliable. But even with those, almost always, the problems occur out of the box, so the problems will appear within days of buying the machine, so since it was bought local (one of my stipulations for the average joe consumer), they can take it back and usually get it worked out. Also, when it comes to MY windows PCs, I use certain brands that I have had good luck with. I pay a bit more for certain things, to eliminate some possible headaches. But I know enough to build my own (something I recommend others do if they want a windows PC... right after I tell them to buy a Macintosh). By learning how to build it themselves... then they can track down better parts, and when things go wrong, won't be so helpless to getting them fixed. It will also translate to more stable systems as they have a better idea of what to do and what not to do. (my home PC cost me next to nothing, has decent quality parts, with money spent where it matters, and is rock solid running windows ME, which is almost an amazing thing in its own right) >I've often said, windows is a pretty good operating system, >until you put some programs on it. Is it the fault of windows >itself, or is it less than perfect programming on the part >of the third party companies that write the additional programs, >the device drivers, etc that we use, to write their software >to be rock solid running over windows? Ok, you are right, I think most of the windows problems are due to the applications and not the actual OS. But again, to the average consumer, there is no difference between it being an OS problem and an application problem. It just isn't working. >I have a feeling that if one >were to set up a windows machine with the best quality hardware >they could get, and use primarily only microsoft operating >systems and applications, they won't have near as many problems >with it. I have computers built with high quality hardware and ones with the cheapest crap I could find (including in many cases things I pulled from someone's trash). For the machines that run only windows, and MS applications... I have seen no noticable difference in stability. And actually, I find MS applications to be one of the LARGER offenders of crashing windows. It is not unusual for me to see MS Office being the only app installed on one of my Windows boxes, and see it crash all by itself. I have also had many problems with exchange crashing right after a default install... and problems with other MS software screwing up windows. I just chalk that up to painful irony (but at least you can't say MS is withholding info so that other apps crash, forcing everyone to use MS apps as the only stable apps... since theirs are just as, or more so, unstable than many 3rd party apps). >I find the motherboard is the heart of the system. I only >consider a mainboard from a company that has a web site >with docs, bios updates, etc online. Usually better quality >productions. I used to see the booklets that came with a mobo >that didn't even say what company produced them. We called >them ROCs, as in made in Taiwan, Republic of China. But >actually they started producing some very good quality stuff >in Taiwan, but then when we got more friendly with China, >some manufacturing moved there, to again lower the costs. >I avoid computer components made in China like the plague. I have found an amazing number of these cheap unlabeled mobos to be tracked back to PC Chips. I think at my last count, they were selling under something like 16 different names. And all of them were the same, crappy ass motherboard. I personally have found ASUS to be decent for the price, and so far have had fairly good luck with them (now that I said it, they are all going to blow up tomorrow... I just know it!). Alas, crappy MBs are a risk in cheap PCs... but at least in my experience, all the bad cheap ones I have dealt with, died very early on... so again, it is something that can get ironed out with the dealer. I think my point boils down to this: if you are going to buy a Windows PC, you are in for a long run of headaches and problems. So do you want them to be $2000 headaches, or $500 headaches? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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IBM System/34...

by DSEAGRAV＠toad.xkl.com

I need to get my hands on disk images of the microcode, SSP, and RPG II diskettes for an IBM S/34. I have the diskettes and a running PDP-11 with an RX02, but the S/34 uses a funny sector size and so the RX02 cannot read them. SSP version 8 would be nice but any version will work. My intentions are to write a software emulator to replace the System/34 that was maliciously destroyed in December by SSI Inc. (Long story there, short version: Hostile corporate takeover, hostile management forces old management out, uses building maintenance to gain access to a private storage area used by the old management and myself, and destroyed all equipment and data stored there, which included a S/36 and S/34, both in perfect running condition, my DEC Rainbow, miscellaneous PDP-10,PDP-11 and IBM manuals, and miscellaneous office equipment. Then, after depositing the remains in the dumpster, they called us out to observe their handiwork and ridicule us.) If anyone can either generate disk images on their own, or somehow read the disks I have (Or even better, tell me how to read them with my RX02) I would be very grateful. I am well-armed with documentation for the emulation project, I have system logic diagrams, descriptions of the micromachine, circuit prints, and all sorts of IBM manuals that I am probably not supposed to have. ^_^ Please mail dseagrav(a)lunar-tokyo.net with responses as I am not able to check this email address very often. Also, I will say now that I am unemployed and cannot pay for commerical data-conversion services. -------

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Bought an IBM 5362 -- so now what do I do with this thing?

by out2sea00＠yahoo.com

Dave, Charles and Folks -- Let me share what little I do know in case you haven't seen this yet. IBM makes very little reference to these systems. System/36 is mentioned on their corporate history page. It's a direct ancestor of the AS/400 series. The only specific information they have comes from their sales manual. * Search: http://www.ibmlink.ibm.com/ussman&parms= Our models are described this way (cribbed from above) : 5360 Multiple workstation system with multiprogramming capability. o 30 - 1432MB HDD o 128K - 7Mb RAM o 8 inch 1.2MB diskette o 36 - 72 local workstations 5362 System unit o 256K - 2MB RAM o 30 - 660MB HDD o 8 inch 1.2MB diskette o 28 local workstations o 64 remote workstations 5363 System/36 and Application Systems/Entry System Unit Compact, low-cost, floor-standing system that runs existing System/36 application programs without recompilation. o 1.0 - 2.0Mb RAM o 5.25 1.2Mb diskette o 65 - 1256Mb HDD o 28 local worstations o 64 remote worstations 5364 S/36 PC is a combination of the 5364 System Unit and a directly-attached IBM PC. The 5364 System Unit is a smaller, lower cost, floor standing or desk-top system that will run existing S/36 application programs without recompilation. The personal computer can run personal computer programs as well as act as the first S/36 workstation. o 256K - 1.0MB RAM o 5.25 inch 1.2Mb diskette o 40, 65, 80 or 130MB HDD o 6-9 local workstations (later upgraded to 16) The 5360 family has a multiple processor architecture. The main storage processor is an enhanced S/34 instruction processor. A control storage processor operates in parallel with the main storage processor, and provides microcoded control function for the I/O processors and interfaces. The processors use LSI (Large Scale Integration) for the logic circuitry. Storage technology is MOSFET (Metal Oxide semiconductor Field Effect Transistor). Data and instructions are stored as EBCDIC characters. Each EBCDIC character is stored in an 8-bit byte. ECC (Error Correction Code) is maintained in main storage. Single-bit error correction and double-bit error detection is performed on every two bytes. Parity is added for all data transfers to and from main storage. Now you know all I know. Help! Anything else would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Colin Eby Senior Consultant CSC Consulting __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

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PS/2 Model 70 Portable

by out2sea00＠yahoo.com

>...Okay, I've decided that I'm not going to fool around with this PS/2 any more, as it really isn't the type of thing I collect. Is anyone interested in it for $20+shipping? - -- Eric Dittman ...< Eric -- Abso-blinking-lutely. I've been watching out for one of those. I have this perverse fantasy about using one for a 5250 emulator. Email me off list and I'll make whatever arrangement you need. Thanks, Colin Eby Senior Consultant CSC Consulting __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

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3com 3station

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I just picked up a 3com 3station for a few $$ at university salvage today. It seems to be a rather neat little system. Inside it has a header (J9) that appears to be a floppy disk connector (34pin header). Does anyone know anymore about these things or have software for it (it'd be nice to use it as an Xterminal, but who knows if that'll ever work...) Thanks much! -- Pat

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VAX 11/780s - Masscomp - Valid equipment available

by auringer＠tds.net

> From: "Merle K. Peirce" <at258(a)osfn.org> > Well we might very well be interested in a ZS-1. Do you have some idea of how and when? As I mentioned before, I would need to have a commitment fairly quick to keep the machines intact. Later, Jon Jon Auringer auringer(a)tds.net

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Starship simulator (was: VAX 11/780s...)

by vze2mnvr＠verizon.net

Ben, I wish we had it all today too. I'm sure we would have been much further along if they hadn't cut the budget back so severely after the apollo program wrapped up. But the shuttle is a good working vehicle. Launches of the shuttle are so common now, you only hear a blurb on it on the news. In addition to flying Glenn back into space, I wish they would take Yeager up one time too, just to thank him for the contributions he also made. There are some small private outfits trying to develop their own programs too, either in CA or somewhere out west. But it still takes a lot of money, just not as much as NASA requires. On CNN this morn, I believe there was mention of a launch, but the vehicle was still a $500,000 vehicle. I bet if you searched google, you might find one of the private projects, that you might even be able to contribute help to. One concern I have though is that until there is actually a good destination to go to ( where there is air and water, even if it has to be extracted ) there may not be enough of a reason to make it commercially viable. Short hops to get halfway around the globe in record time would be good, but true deep space travel may need a destination that will support life. I liken it to sailing. Some people like to take their boat out just to go sailing, but I kind of always wanted a destination to sail to. Sailing halfway out into the Atlantic, just to see it, and coming back just never excited me. If Columbus hadn't found the "New World" how many would have continued to voyage out across the atlantic. Ian Ben Franchuk wrote: > > Ian Koller wrote: > > > > Hello Ben, > > > > > I say dump this simulation idea and build the real thing! > > > > I doubt you'd want to, or be able to, commit the real level > > of resources necessary for this. > > It is not a easy project, and definitely a team effort, but you > still need one man/woman with a vision. Right now space travel > in same field as computers in the early 1960's. They still would > be mainframes on punch cards today had not the PDP-1 and PDP-5 > and PDP-11 been designed by a small team of people. > > > That's not the sole motivation there. I do not doubt that > > large aerospace lobbying has some influence on project > > funding, but the real reason their projects cost what they > > do is the fact that they are held to very high standards. > > People's lives and the taxpayers' money are at stake, > > accountability to the US government and the american taxpayers, > > etc. won't allow them to work like hobbyists or shadetree mechanics. > > Ha-Ha -- accountable that is funny. Too much red tape and kickbacks > I bet to make it easy for a team of people to develop something. > A hobbyist is somebody who does something with out getting paid > for it. Talent is not == money. Since I don't have talent in that > field of rocket hardware I may not design a warp drive :) but still > could help out in other fields. The point is nobody wants to go into > space if they have to do a little work. > > > > > > > a simple-reusable space craft > > > > I doubt that such a thing would ever really be "simple" > > > > I really hope that you were actually joking. This analysis > > of the requirements is very innocent in it's point of view. > > Much like a child's view of the world. And note that I'm > > not calling you childish, just that simplistic statement > > of the requirements for projects of this scope. > > NO joke! > A space craft is hard to design because so many variables > change exponentially. A 5% factor could cross a threshold > wipe out this whole design. Simple is a relative term here. > I like a simple two stage space-plane rail launched with > only the 1st stage manned ( single pilot ). The second stage > would fly to dock with a low orbit space station. Re-entry > still needs more thought but one idea is dismantling the 2nd stage > and having a return shuttle take down the peaces. > > > > > > putting ORDANARY people in space! > > > > This will happen someday soon though. Maybe another 30 to > > 50 years? > > I am 42 come spring. I can't wait another 30 years. :) > One view I have is since space travel is 10x harder than > flying I expect payloads to be 1/10 of the what flying is. > This is in the scale of 500 to 2000 LBS payloads. > You have NASA's plan -- big projects done by a army of > people -- my plan ordinary people on average wages bootstrapping > themselves into space. Think small you can build big projects. > Think big and you get small projects like NASA seems to be doing. > > > > Seeing the work Henk has done, I'm sure that he has invested > > a lot of time, and a fair amount of money, just in creating > > such a well done simulator project of that scope. > > True. But then if he decides he wants to build a console > for space craft to say MARS could he do it with out political > problems. > -- > Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu * > www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html

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"Locking Connector Kits" for LocalTalk

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>First, I've never found a female DIN-8 >port for sale (and not for lack of looking) Not that it will matter, as you don't plan to build it anyway... but for reference... MCM Electronics (www.mcm-electronics.com) sells Female Din-8 (although, isn't that size really a mini-din?). Mini-Din, Din, either way, I know they sell them, as I bought a few a while back to replace the broken off serial ports on a PowerBook 160. The ones I bought were solder type, and meant to be used with a cable (so now my Powerbook has two short cables sticking out the back for the serial ports... no matter, it sits on a shelf acting as a nat router and backup mail server these days) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Another reason why Dell sucks

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

Even though their Optiplex PCs seem to be standard ATX form factor, their power supply does not meet the standard. Putting in a generic ATX power supply will not work. Something about the wiring being changed slightly on the power plug. perhaps someone else has details about that. --

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quest for pictures

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] ! ! ! > ! > At the bare minimum, I want real lens interchangeability. ! > I'd prefer a ! > Leica screw mount (just so I can use what I have), but ! > realistically, a C ! > mount (or even D) would be more practical. But ANY MOUNT! ! ! I wonder how many people on this list actually know what C ! and D mounts ! are, and what they were first associated with. Not me really, but it does have to do with cameras... ! I prefer screw-in lens mounts to bayonet. For one very good reason. I ! don't need speed of lens changing, but I do like to make my ! own add-ons. ! I can cut the screw threads in the lathe without problems (I ! made my own ! C mount lens and body caps when I discovered that the ! 'official' ones had ! to be ordered from Switzerland and were over \pounds 35.00 ! each). Making ! a bayonet mount is a lot harder. Don't they have adapters? Or can you cut something down and slap it on the lathe to make an adaptor? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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More Deluxe Option Board software

by mark_k＠totalise.co.uk

Hi, Some of you might remember that I uploaded version 5.4 of the Central Point Deluxe Option Board software a while ago. I recently received another Option Board, which came with a slightly earlier version of the software, as well as Copy II PC 6.0. None of the disks seem to have been written to since new. Both Option Board software versions are 5.4 according to the disk labels and READ.ME files. The disks I uploaded a while ago contain version 5.5 of MCP.EXE, compared with 5.4 for the version I just uploaded (see URL below). So these earlier disks may not be of much interest. Copy II PC 6.0 is a program for backing up copy-protected PC disks. Dated 1990, it probably doesn't handle protected high density disks (neither does the Deluxe Option Board software). It might work better in conjunction with a Deluxe Option Board card; I have not tested that. Anyway, I have uploaded disk images of this too. http://www.btinternet.com/~mark_k/Deluxe_Option_Board/ Instructions: download files and decompress using gzip. Use your favourite disk-image-writing program to write the disk images to floppy disks. (For example IBM's LOADDSKF for MS-DOS, WinImage for Windows, dd under UNIX-like OSes.) -- Mark

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OT: RE: quest for pictures

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

I have a couple of Olympus OM-1's that I use (vintage 1975, so they meet the 10-year rule). If the battery ever goes bad, the camera is still fully functional (except no built-in light meter). I can always use the f:16 rule in sunlight (exposure = f:16 at 1/[the ASA film speed]; e.g., f:16 @ 1/125 sec for ASA 100 film) or guess the exposure in other conditions. Bob -----Original Message----- From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:56 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: quest for pictures <snip> I personnaly prefer old, mechanical cameras. I can understand them, I can fix them (as you might have guessed by now, I like tinkering with _all_ types of machinery). Actually, I probably prefer fixing cameras to taking photographs. <snip> Electronically controlled film cammeras are just not eccentric enough to be interesting :-) -tony

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ENIAC [Was: Re: Appropritate comic strip....]

by msell＠ontimesupport.com

Chris, I probably should have mentioned that, huh? : ) I'm in Texas. We've got plenty of valves here, but they all have oil in them...... Vacuum tubes. That's what I meant to say. No, really, I did!!! - Matt At 03:16 PM 1/10/2002 -0600, you wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matthew Sell [mailto:msell@ontimesupport.com] > > > Over here, on this side of the Atlantic, they're called tubes. > >What side of the Atlantic is that? I'm in mid-Illinois. ;) > >Christopher Smith, Perl Developer >Amdocs - Champaign, IL > >/usr/bin/perl -e ' >print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); >' > Matthew Sell Programmer On Time Support, Inc. www.ontimesupport.com (281) 296-6066 Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST! http://www.ontimesupport.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...

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ENIAC [Was: Re: Appropritate comic strip....]

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Sell [mailto:msell@ontimesupport.com] > Over here, on this side of the Atlantic, they're called tubes. What side of the Atlantic is that? I'm in mid-Illinois. ;) Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Musicians (and computer music)

by mhstein＠usa.net

You do know that Hal Chamberlin (who came up with that mini-mini) was THE MAN as far as PET music was concerned in those days? Maybe he's got something to contribute to posterity when he gets back from Korea. mike -------------------------Original Message-------------------- From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Musicians (and computer music) (was RE: Trailing-edge compute farm seeks gainful employment) ObClassic: Does anyone have any software for making music on the PET with *other* than CB2 sound? I had a buddy with a clip-on user port music card - it was an 8-bit D-to-A like a Disney Sound Source. The PET shoved bytes out the user port and they appoximated music. I can't remember what it was called.

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ENIAC [Was: Re: Appropritate comic strip....]

by msell＠ontimesupport.com

Chris, Ahem..... Over here, on this side of the Atlantic, they're called tubes. : ) Just ribbing you.... - Matt >Yes, I think there was an ENIAC on a chip project that was successful. I >don't know much about it though. > > -- or did you mean in original scale, with valves? :) > >Regards, > >Chris > > >Christopher Smith, Perl Developer >Amdocs - Champaign, IL > >/usr/bin/perl -e ' >print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); >' > Matthew Sell Programmer On Time Support, Inc. www.ontimesupport.com (281) 296-6066 Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST! http://www.ontimesupport.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...

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Apple disk -> MSDOS

by mhstein＠usa.net

Do I gather from previous discussions that it's a problem reading an Apple II floppy disk on a PC? I'm about to get rid of my last Apple II clone (No, Ernest, I haven't forgotten you) but there are some Basic programs on Apple diskettes that I might want to port to GW-Basic some day. Trouble is, the Apple has no parallel or serial cards and I don't feel like copying them off the screen by hand. I think with a little software I could transfer it to one of my PETs via the cassette port, and from there it would be trivial to get to a PC, but I'm hoping there's an easier way. I have a CompatiCard I and Uniform, and I still have the T300 that no one wanted which can do 96TPI 640K MS-DOS diskettes as well as the usual MS-DOS 5.25 formats, if that's of any use. Any ideas? mike

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Compukit UK101

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > Sent: 09 January 2002 21:18 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Compukit UK101 > > Sounds good so far. IIRC the UK101 will display 'garbage' at > switch-on. > Just the random contents of the video memory (the video > display circuitry > doesn't need to be configured by software, so it'll display > this even if > the CPU isn't doing anything). <excellent troubleshooting snippage> Thanks Tony! Star man once again :) I'll be annoyed if I've been defeated by a caps lock key! I know what I'm doing tonight now....... -- Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)

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Apple disk -> MSDOS

by mhstein＠usa.net

CBM -> PC isn't the problem; I've got a couple of CmC ADA IEEE-> S/P converters as well. The Cassette to Serial adapter sounds neat though. Getting from the Apple to the CBM is the problem; I think I've got software somewhere that'll connect the two cassette ports, but it'd take till next Xmas/Kwanzaa/Chanukah to find it. Was just hoping there was a quick & easy direct way, but assuming Ernest is going to take the clone, I'm going to include it and ask him to transfer the file(s) & email them back to me since he does have serial capability. Thanks anyway, guys. Always interesting and often very informative & helpful. mike ------------------------Original Message---------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 12:58:42 -0800 (PST) From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Apple disk -> MSDOS - --- "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> wrote: > > I think with a little software I could transfer it > > to one of my PETs via the cassette port, and from there > > it would be trivial to get to a PC... > > Really? The PC can't do PET disks, either. But you MIGHT be able to > interface one of the aftermarket IEEE488 drives to the Pet with some > trivial hardware, and then interface it to the PC, and just write a file > system for it. An XE1541 cable is an easy enough item to build. If you have a 4040 or 2031 drive on your PET, you could hook a 1541 to the PC, the IEEE drive to the PET and sneaker-net stuff over. Marko Makela has a cool device that's about to hit the world - a cassette port dongle for all CBM machines that speaks to a "modern" machine over serial - you save to "cassette" from your PET, B500, C64, VIC-20, whatever, and run a virtual server on a serial line on a modern machine to scoop up the data. No funny software required on the CBM side. He has a prototype and pictures, but it's not quite available yet. I know there have been some projects to emulate an IEEE port from a PeeCee parallel port - enough to drive a 4040 floppy unit. If the software were there, it'd be easy enough to turn the PeeCee into a virtual disk drive. I think you could find the stuff already done. I don't think you'd have to roll your own code to do this. My X1541 cable also has a 6-pin C= cassette port on it. I have read many PET tapes directly from DOS with a real C2N tape recorder. It's not as reliable as floppies (especially if there's a head alignment problem), but it does work. Slow as molasses in January, though. Personally, the 170K floppy shuffle is the easiest way with the most common hardware. It does require that you have a couple of Commodore devices, but they aren't uncommon. Serial ports on PETs *are* (but I have a couple of IEEE<->RS-232 boxes from "TNW" and one ROM socket ACIA board. Still doesn't make them "common" though). - -ethan

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PS/2 Model 70 Portable

by dittman＠dittman.net

Okay, I've decided that I'm not going to fool around with this PS/2 any more, as it really isn't the type of thing I collect. Is anyone interested in it for $20+shipping? -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

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Tek scope service manuals

by CLeyson＠aol.com

In a message dated 09/01/02 edick(a)idcomm.com writes: > Well ... it must be asleep. I wasn't even able to find a reference to it, > though, so something's amiss. > > Dick > Type 2430 into the search engine under Model No. I know their search engine leaves a bit to be desired but I used them to buy an HP service manual. The best I could get in Europe was a photocopy AND it cost more than the originals from ManualsPlus. Try http://www.big-list.com/usedmanu.html. It's a comprehesive list of service manual dealers. Good Luck Chris

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ENIAC [Was: Re: Appropritate comic strip....]

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Sell [mailto:msell@ontimesupport.com] > Has anyone ever attempted to recreate all or part of the > ENIAC? Maybe as > part of a CS project or museum? Yes, I think there was an ENIAC on a chip project that was successful. I don't know much about it though. -- or did you mean in original scale, with valves? :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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ENIAC [Was: Re: Appropritate comic strip....]

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 10, Matthew Sell wrote: > Has anyone ever attempted to recreate all or part of the ENIAC? Maybe as > part of a CS project or museum? > > Just curious..... I thought this was neat..These folks implemented the ENIAC architecture on a chip some time ago: http://www.ee.upenn.edu/~jan/eniacproj.html -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Appropritate comic strip....

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Have a look at this comic strip... (Wednesday's strip) http://www.rockwoodcomic.com/ --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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What to do with an empty BA23

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! Hi guys, ! I'm sat here wondering what I should do with this empty ! BA23 I've got.... ! ... If all else ! fails, anyone think of an alternative use for a BA23? :&) Didn't somebody turn one into a keg-erator? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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Starship simulator (was: VAX 11/780s...)

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Ok, I read all comments, but I think this thread is not completely for CC... If you read the starship website, you know my name, Henk. I reply to give some more information on my project. The Starship project started in 1982, AFAIRemember. However, as a young boy, I went to the attick and play with some switches, batteries and lamps after seeing an episode of "The Thunderbirds". So, I wished I had more free time. I have many ideas to implement but *lack* the time to do it. Indeed, one of the ideas is mounting everything on a sort of X-Y table so that it can shake a little. When you have no visual contact with you surroundings, a little shake can fool you brain quite good. I have mounted a bass loudspeaker to the rear of the car seat, the "captain's chair", and feeding it sub-audible tones you feel vibration as an add-on effect/experience. I must admit that dreaming/thinking about it is fun. Realising some of it in the end gives me a 'good' feeling, as does all comment on this website. I enjoy reading other people's comment on my starship project. It 'fuels' me to put effort in expanding the website and adding more pictures to it. And of course expanding my starship! With last Xmas I got a Nikon Coolpix 885, so expect additions to the site the coming months. I will add a link to tell about new additions. For more questions/remarks, don't hesitate to write to me. That is henk.gooijen(a)12move.nl or gooi(a)oce.nl > Look for the book Star Ship Simulation by Roger Garrett That's what got me infected! > [snip] > but now it would be nearly a cake walk. I wouldn't agree on that. The longer you think about it, and work out more detail (hardware, switches, meters, etc.) the more elaborate/complex things become. Live long and prosper, - Henk.

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OT: DELL SUCKS! Re: PC Gamer, best 50 classic games issue?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>> It would seem the majority of people I confer with have nothing but pain >> and anguish leading to murderous thoughts when dealing with Dell. >> >> F Dell and it's namesake! > >I wonder why the disparity exists? Maybe because once upon a time, Dell's were actually good. For some time, I had recommended them. Their PCs were tanks. You could beat the hell out of them, and they kept working. And they were good solid components that worked with default installs of windows 95 and NT 4. Support was even once great (knowledgeable, polite, fast). And then they grew... and cut costs to stay in business... and went into the crapper like just about every other consumer PC company. Now, when people tell me they are going to buy a PC, and ask who I recommend... I tell them with a straight honest face... I recommend NO ONE for home use. I can't honestly think of a single good company building consumer level windows boxes. Between them all putting in cheaper and cheaper parts, and MS making windows... well more windows like, I can't think of any company that can get it right, and get it right consistently. So now I ask people WHY they are buying a windows PC. Everyone seems to have one of two answers. 1: to play games (I tell them to buy a Playstation 2), or 2: to get online (I tell them to buy a cheap used low end PII and throw a ton of ram into it). Everyone that doesn't fit one of those two... I tell them to learn enough to build their own, or just go with a cheap LOCAL vendor (so you have someone you can throw the machine at when it craps out for the 100th time), or buy a Macintosh. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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VAX 11/780s - Masscomp - Valid equipment available

by auringer＠tds.net

Hello all, Along with the Astronautics ZS-1 machines I posted about earlier, we have some other equipment available. I have someone interested in one of the 11/780 machines and possible others. As with the ZS-1 machines, the time frame isn't very long. Again, we are closing this facility and the equipment will be scrapped if not rescued. 1 DEC 11/780 (3 wide cabinet) currently up and running 4.2 BSD 3rd cabinet has a Ven-tel plugin modem rack w/~10 modems 1 rack containing 4 Fujitsu Eagle drives (one drive is off-line due to increasing errors) 1 Fujitsu 9-track tape drive in 2 wide cabinet (not quite as tall as the VAX cabinet)(This is a nice auto loading drive, there is a second one available with two drives from a non-VAX system) 1 DEC TE16 9-track tape drive (1 wide cabinet) 1 Fujitsu line printer 1 DECWRITER III printing terminal as console 1 DEC 11/780 (3 wide cabinet) currently down but was running fine when turned off (VMS) 3 DEC RP07 drives (each the size of a washing machine on steroids!) 1 DEC TU78 9-track tape drive 1 Scicards design station (This is a dedicated color graphics terminal used for printed circuit board (PCB) layout) I am told the tube was a little on the fuzzy side. 1 Benson photo plotter (we used this exclusively to print out PCB artwork for checking) 1 Dataproducts line printer 1 DECWRITER III printing terminal as console 3 Valid Systems m68k based Multibus systems. Each system has several dedicated mono graphics cards to drive multiple design stations. Each system is in a half-height rack which contains the Multibus rack, an 8" Fujitsu fixed disk drive and the slot loading 9-track tape drive. I am unsure of the status of these systems. I believe they were running when shut down, but I have doubts about the drives. 6 or more of the Valid Scaldstation design stations. Each includes a table with built-in digitizer and a 19" green monochrome graphics monitor. These systems were used primarily for schematic capture, but ran a full blown UNIX, so I always enjoyed reading news on the "big screen". :) 1 Masscomp m68k based system This system is also Multibus based and resides in a pair of 5' high racks. One rack contains the multibus chassis and a pair of Fujitsu drives. The second rack houses the 9-track tape drive and a third 8" Fujitsu drive. This machine was only lightly used when I signed on in 1989, and shut down shortly thereafter. I have gotten it up and running RTU on its ST-506 boot drive, but haven't managed to get the Fujitsus online. 7 Masscomp MC-500 deskside chassis These are also Multibus based m68k systems. These run the same OS as systems above. They have an internal 5-1/4" floppy and ST-506 fixed drive. There are a bunch of the monochrome graphics tubes that go along with these units. Actually, it appears like each chassis is designed to drive a pair of the graphics terminals. I have one of these boxes that I did a clean install of the RTU OS. The other 6 are in varying states of repair. I think there are enough bits to assemble at least 3 more complete systems. 2 DEC MicroVax II in a 19" There is also a rack mounted chassis with a pair of SMD drives. Each of the MVII has a SMD controller card. Both of the boot drives are dead and I don't have a way to format replacements. I would like to hang on to these if I can manage to get them home without doing myself harm. 1 Tek 4014-1 graphics terminal w/hard copy unit. The terminal works fine, but I haven't had a chance to test the hard copy unit. I would like to hang on to this unit, but moving it is definately a two person and a truck kind of thing. So I may have to let it go. :( ? StorageTek 9-Track drives. 110V operation. How many of these I have depends on the fate of the ZS-1 machines. I have a couple now, and will have several more if the ZS machines are scrapped. Large quantities of documentation. Over a dozen UNIX programmers manuals in metal desktop racks. Complete documentation sets for VMS, gray and orange binders. I have a box with complete unopened docs for a later version (don't remember off-hand which version) of VMS than we had ever installed. Documentation for several revisions of SunOS4. If I were to walk through the building, I could easily double this list. Basically we have just about everything! Thanks for listening, Jon Jon Auringer auringer(a)tds.net

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Starship simulator (was: VAX 11/780s...)

by foxnhare＠bigvalley.net

Look for the book Star Ship Simulation by Roger Garrett - Dilithium press, it is a very well thought out full-fledged simulation idea (no real code, just a complete (I think) system structure for all the 'stations') Back then it would have been a monumental task to get all the computers and newtworking worked out but now it would be nearly a cake walk. > Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 15:37:12 -0600 (CST) > From: Jeffrey S. Sharp <jss(a)subatomix.com> > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Starship simulator (was: VAX 11/780s...) > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Ben Franchuk wrote: > > > http://home.hetnet.nl/~tshaj/ > > Click in the 'star screen' for a real star-ship bridge. > > Yeah, that's what gave me the idea. I would add a few improvements: > > * It will require a group of people. This will encourage teamwork and > role-playing among the players. > > * It will be much bigger. Think NCC-1701-D bridge. > > * Things will move, shake, and explode. Yes, you'll have to sign > a waiver. No, it won't be handicapped-accessible. That said, risk of > injury should be minimal. > > * An entire colleciton of classicmp hardware running most of it. -- 01000011 01001111 01001101 01001101 01001111 01000100 01001111 01010010 01000101 Larry Anderson - Sysop of Silicon Realms BBS (209) 754-1363 300-14.4k bps Set your 8-bit C= rigs to sail for http://www.portcommodore.com/ 01000011 01001111 01001101 01010000 01010101 01010100 01000101 01010010 01010011

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OT: DELL SUCKS! Re: PC Gamer, best 50 classic games issue?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Sellam- Thet was Eric Dittman, not me! But I *did* write the "DELL RULES" one... ;) > -----Original Message----- > From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 5:43 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: OT: DELL SUCKS! Re: PC Gamer, best 50 classic > games issue? > > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Eric Dittman wrote: > > > No, I've had the miniPCI MODEM replaced as my system was > shipped with > > the Actiontec and I had specified the 3Com, so Dell sent a tech to > > swap the card. I also had the SXGA+ screen replaced twice. > The first > > screen developed a flicker, so they sent a tech to replace > the screen. > > I didn't the the second screen looked even, so they had a second > > screen replacement installed. I didn't have to make up any > excuse, I > > just told tech support I was unhappy with the way the LCD looked. > > Finally, I had a problem with the mouse developing a mind > of its own. > > The keyboard (with built-in eraser-head pointer) was replaced, and > > when the problem reoccurred they sent a new palmrest (which has the > > touchpad built-in), which fixed the problem. > > So, in other words, your laptop basically sucked as far as > quality goes? > :) > > > Each time the techs arrived the next day, with the replacement part > > and tools, and the techs (I've had three different techs) all knew > > what they were doing. > > Dell on-site tech support is subbed out to local contractors who are > supposed to be "Dell certified" or whatever. So that > explains why some > people may have good service, and others lousy, when it comes > to on-site > support. It depends on the local contractor. > > > So yes, I've had problems, and yes, Dell did give me outstanding > > support and service. > > Again, you got lucky. > > Sellam Ismail Vintage > Computer Festival > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- > International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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imsai for sale

by doc＠medhealth.com

I have an IMSAI box with a S100 bus, front panel and power suppy that I would like to sell. Can you direct me to the right site or group to attempt a sale? Thanks Tom C

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Bought an IBM 5362 -- so now what do I do with this thing?

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/9/2002 7:41:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, out2sea00(a)yahoo.com writes: << I'm trying to track down resources for IBM System/36 and the model 5362. I just Ebay'd one (momentary insanity) and I need to start putting together all the apocrypha to go with it. All I'm getting is the system unit. I need to try and track down software, manuals and a display station first. Any pointers or assistance would be just lovely, and greatly appreciated. Thanks, Colin Eby Senior Consultant CSC Consulting >> I've a 5364, probably the same. anybody else got one? Mine's a desktop form factor and was lucky to get the dual floppy 5150 pc that seems to control it. I use the 5150 to IPL the 5364 and takes about 5 minutes. eventually I get a passwoid prompt and I dont know what it is. I'm not sure how the menus work. also got with it a 3194 twinax terminal but no keyboard so I can't use that right now. both units came with disks in their drives but not sure what their content is. I really should make a writeup about this beast on my collection site. It's really quite impressive. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

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Tek scope service manuals

by CLeyson＠aol.com

>Does anyone know of a source for Tek scope service manuals? >Of specific interest are: 2246A and 2430A Try www.manualsplus.com. They have a good stock of HP and TEK manuals. Chris

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OT: DELL RULES! (RE: DELL SUCKS! Re: PC Gamer, best 50 classic ga mes issue?)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Eric Dittman wrote: > > > > > Huh?! That was the last piece of business I'll EVER do with Dell. > > > > > > Dell service sucks donkey cock. Computers: good. Service: very bad. > > > > > > F Dell! > > > > I have a Dell Inspiron 8000 that works very well. I've had > > excellent results when I've had to call in for service. > > It would seem the majority of people I confer with have nothing but pain > and anguish leading to murderous thoughts when dealing with Dell. > > F Dell and it's namesake! Dell Sales sucks... Dell technical support sucks... Dell customer service sucks... But Dell peecees are the most stable peecees I've ever seen. Their notebooks are the same Acers everyone else sells. Just had to toss in a contrary viewpoint... ;) -dq

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Tek scope service manuals

by mhstein＠usa.net

Me three! For a 310A, definitely a classic spaceheater. BTW, I have a service manual for the 4006-1 Computer Display Terminal, if anybody needs any info on this fine piece. mike ------------------Original Message-------------------- From: "Charles E. Fox" <foxvideo(a)wincom.net> Subject: Re: Tek scope service manuals At 03:44 PM 09/01/2002 -0600, you wrote: >Does anyone know of a source for Tek scope service manuals? > >Of specific interest are: 2246A and 2430A > >--tnx >--tom Me too, if anyone turns up info on the 604.

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I love that ole "blue box" stuff

by dmabry＠mich.com

Someone has an Intel UPP on e-bay. I'm not sure how it could "appear to be functional", but maybe. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1320319997 -- Dave Mabry dmabry(a)mich.com Dossin Museum Underwater Research Team NACD #2093

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Apple disk -> MSDOS

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/9/2002 9:14:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, lgwalker(a)mts.net writes: << As an aside there was a surplus dealer on the net that seemed to have a ream of Diamond Trackstar cards going for $30 up to at least a year ago when last I checked him and debated buying one. Lawrence >> i've a trackstar in a PS/2 model 30 as well as a mac LC with the //e option (and the cable too!) so I guess I have it easy doing transfers back and forth but just havent gotten a round tuit. (tm) -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

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