At 10:34 PM 1/18/2002 -0600, Tothwolf wrote:
>I was recently asked to work on equipment that had tri-wing screws holding
>it together. It was apparent someone had tried to use pliers to remove the
>screws, but was unsuccessful. I don't yet have a set of tri-wing bits, so
>MCM might get some business from me after all.
I've always wanted a bit set that will disassemble the
McDonald's Happy Meal toys. They almost always have a
screw with a triangular hole, perhaps rounded at the bottom.
What are those called? Trilobe?
- John
Tony --
> > That's why I bought the Japanese manuals (there's one for FETs and one
for
>
> Where do you get them from, and how do you order them (given that the
> titles are in Japanese)?
The titles are in Japanese and English. You would have no problem reading
them. Most Japanese trading firms will throw one in if you order $2000
worth of parts ;>) Or, you may order from MCM Electronics. Each book is
USD $19.95.
Glen
0/0
> From: Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com>
>However, it seems like every
>time someone in Japan or other some other parts of the Far east designs a
>circuit, they design or specify a new transistor for it -- a transistor
>that is almost identical to some existing device, but has with some minor,
>often trivial, tweak. I suppose it may save some corporation a fraction
of
>a yen on each of hundreds of thousands of units.
Please note that each number is produced by a specific manufacturer. Only
Sanyo makes the 2SC1308K, and only Sony makes the 2SC867A. The
manufacturer name is in Japanese, in a column on the left side of the entry
(don't have my book handy).
So if Panasonic-Matsushita is desiging a piece of equipment, chances are
that they will initiate a new Matsushita part number rather than buying an
equivalent device from a competitor such as Hitachi or NEC. Thus the many
equivalent devices.
Glen
0/0
Anyone want a mint-condition DEC Rainbow? It's free for cost of shipping
>from Tucson, AZ, USA.
My contact descries it as a DEC Rainbow 1-00+ complete with keyboard and
monitor. On the back it apparently says
PC-100+
PC-100-B2
It has a 12 MByte disk, DOS 2.11 with Fortran and dBase loaded.
Please contact me offlist if you are interested.
GZ
Wait a moment, I'm one of the people of the RCS/RI! I just this minute
returned from our monthly Open House. Let me back up a moment, here,
because I don't get all the RCS/RI's traffic, and I haven't heard of any
of this. We've had several members seriously sick recently, and if
you've been conversing with one them then that's why you haven't heard
back. I will forward this message among the RCS/RI members. Meanwhile,
would the original poster of this traffic please e-mail me with details
so that I can fetch them around inside the RCS/RI so that they don't get
lost again?
-----Original Message-----
From: David Betz <dbetz(a)xlisper.mv.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Saturday, January 19, 2002 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: Symbolics Lisp Machines?
>I was never able to get the people from the Retro-Computing Society of
>RI to reply to email. I may just buy the keyboard and mouse from
>Symbolics now that my company is paying me again.
>
>On Saturday, January 19, 2002, at 05:52 PM, Bob Shannon wrote:
>
>> I thought the the people in Rhode Island were able to help you out
>> there?
>>
>> I thought they needed some mice, which I may have so you can work a
>> trade.
>>
>> Lemme know, you should get that box running!
>>
>> David Betz wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, you did. And to me too! Thanks again.
>>> BTW, I'm still looking for a keyboard and mouse....
>>>
>>> David Betz
>>> dbetz(a)xlisper.mv.com
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 18, 2002, at 07:57 PM, Bob Shannon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Any interest in restoring an original CADR list machine?
>>>>
>>>> (I already gave away the only Symbolics box I had...)
>>>>
>>>> Brian Chase wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, r. 'bear' stricklin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How much you want to pay? You can buy one directly from what's
left
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> Symbolics. Couple thou for an XL1200 and Genera 8.3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Talk to David Schmidt. I can put you in touch if you're
interested.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Otherwise? You get lucky. (;
>>>>>
>>>>> An XL1200 would be great, but it'd be for collector/hobbyist use.
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> not wealthy enough to justify a few grand for the sake of
curiosity--
>>>>> though there are plenty of times I wish I were.
>>>>>
>>>>> -brian.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
Nowadays most small 50/60 Hz transformers have thermal fuses fitted.
It isn't mandatory but it is good practice from a safety point of view.
A lot of "power bricks" have these fuses fitted because it is cheaper
than than a separate fuse holder. If the manufacturer fitted a fuse,
you can guarantee that there is always someone who would bypass it.
Chris
In a message dated 19/01/02 driess94(a)dolfijn.nl writes:
> HEllo, I have bought a Toshiba T3100/20 but it won't start.
Stefan,
This may help, it applies to a Toshiba T3200SX so may be of some use.
If there is a small switch located near the floppy drive, set it to 'B' or
'PRT'.
This switch configures the parallel port for printer or external floppy drive.
If it's set to 'A' the bios goes looking on the parallel port for the A drive.
The machine should now boot from a DOS boot disk.
Bios settings. If the T3100 is anything like the T3200 then it is likely that
there is a default bios setting for the hard drive. Try this setting. If
there isn't
a default setting you will have to open the machine up and see what HDD is
fitted. You'll have to do this anyway to replace the battery.
Getting the case apart. On the top of the case, at the rear, there are two
small covers which slide off to reveal hidden screws. Undo all of the screws
on the underside, take of the rear cover and metal panel and the case should
come apart. The battery is probably stuck onto the back of the floppy drive
chassis with Velcro. (The T3200's only bad feature in my opinion).
If you need to take the display apart, the screws are located under the rubber
'feet' located in the corners and underneath the label marked FDD, HDD etc.
A pair of AAA sized Alkaline cells will do as a temporary replacement CMOS
backup battery. There is enough room under the keyboard for them.
Good Luck
Chris
Please reply to the originator about these items.
Thanks.
- don
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Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:31:47 -0500
From: Jeff Mellor <cjeffmellor(a)aol.com>
Reply-To: mellor(a)utk.edu
To: donm(a)cts.com
Subject: RE: Kaypro 10 for sale
I have a fully functional Kaypro 10 computer (excellent outside physical
condition, all original books, disks, cordura carrying case), Comrex
daisy wheel printer (several wheels) also fully functional), and Tandy
102 (also fully functional, original box, books, plus several other
books) with connecting cord (to input data into Kaypro) for sale at a
fair price. Would you or any of your contacts be interested?
Contact:
Jeff Mellor
4204 Taliluna Avenue
Knoxville, TN 37919-8363
(865) 522-9896
cjeffmellor(a)aol.com
mellor(a)utk.edu
HEllo, I have bought a Toshiba T3100/20 but it won't start.
When I boot it up it start's with an error.
Then you have to press F1 to go to the CMOS Bios or some thing.
Then you have to select the Hard disk and floppy drives and stuff.
Then it will say that floppy drive A isn't installed.
After a wile it start and say's "Put system disk in drive"
What can I do so it start's correctly??
Many thanks.
Stefan Driessen Jr.
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Gratis e-mail en meer: http://www.dolfijn.nl/
ilse weet nu ook alles van muziek! http://ilsemusic.ilse.nl/
Somewhere recently, I'm pretty sure it was on one of these two lists,
someone ribbed me for being "such a pushover" for my cat.
I took this pic earlier...tell me, who could help being a pushover
for this?
http://ti.neurotica.com/adorable-cat.jpg
-Dave
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St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
I have a Diablo 3200 and just about to dump. Have spent a few hours trying
to get it work.
I have boot , diagnostic and some application disks
I am in London England where are you
Gordon
OK, I now know why OS/2 Warp is only seeing 48MB. It's because the
computer things it's has 16MB in each of the three banks when in reality it
has 64MB per bank, for a total of 192MB (in upgrading I discovered that it
didn't have the 48MB I thought was in it, it had 112MB).
According to the manuals this system supports 32MB EDO SIMMs, which is what
I'm using in all three banks. Any idea how to convince it that it has them
instead of 8MB ones (it things it has 1 bank of ECC, and two of EDO).
What can I say, I just got the system recently and it's the first PPro I've
had, and the first system with EDO RAM.
Zane
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I've mentioned my obsession with terminals before and today I had a real
find. I was doing my regular trawl of the skips at work and found a
Lynwood Alpha, which I've not seen for nearly 15 years.
I worked for a year at the UK Atomic Energy Authority at Culham Labs,
Oxon, and used to use a Lynwood Alpha to connect to their Prime minis.
It was only a text terminal (AFAIK), but it was most appealing to me
because you could define soft characters, right from the keyboard.
Lynwood Scientific Developments Ltd. used to make TEMPEST-compliant
equipment for government agencies, but at the time I didn't have a clue
whether these terminals were shielded and had fibre-optic comms outputs
or were ordinary terminals. All I knew was that the screen was very
heavy. Since then, I've never seen one or found any information about
them, so I didn't even know whether the Alpha was completely Lynwood's
product or a shielded version of someone else's terminal. Now I know!
This terminal was used in one of our radar trials vans, presumably
bolted into a big rack, because the top of the monitor case is missing
and it had an extra fan bolted underneath the monitor, blowing up
through the three cards sitting alongside the CRT. As best as I can
tell, it dates from 1981 and is powered by a Zilog Z8001 CPU, which I've
never seen before. The Comms output is either RS232C or 20mA. No sign of
fibre.
The keyboard is huge and heavy, with two long rows of function keys at
the top. Intriguingly, the top row of keys have LEDs built in, with
legends like "Format", "Italics", "Half Intensity", "Rev Video",
"Blink", "Under", "Graphics" and "RAM Ch Gen". I wonder why this was?
You'd expect the host to send codes to change the rendition of
characters, rather than having the user swap at will!
Unfortunately, it has been out in the rain for a week, so I'll have to
dry it thoroughly before attempting to fire it up. There are also two
NiCad cells on one of the boards and they have leaked, so a bit of
cleaning is in order.
It's not very interesting to look at, but I'll take some photos and
stick them on the Web site it anyone would like to see it.
- Paul
PS. Also nosed around a colleague's bookshelf and discovered a User
Manual for Data General DASHER D410 and D460 terminals, containing
programming information, so I'll scan that later.
Last time I went to university savlage, they had a HP model 236 'computer'
laying in the back corner, and I was wondering if it was worth anything to
pick up. It looks like an Apple II with a pair of built-in 5-1/4" floppy
drives and 'integrated' keyboard, a pair of HPIB ports on the back, and
some boxish-looking 14" or so monitor.
What kind of stuff is probably inside, and how old is it? (Proc, possible
memory size, etc...)
-- Pat
>Hello,
>
>GCC has support for the PDP-11, but is anyone using it to (cross)
>compile any code?
I know it, and I even downloaded the support package some time ago.
But, in appeareance, nobody know it, or they have an wrong idea
about what we speak when mention GCC for PDP-11.
Just by the way... What's the status of this package (GCC support
for PDP-11) actually ? What machine requirements are needed
in the PDP-11 side ? It could be a good moment to do a cross
development test.
Greetings
Sergio
Hello, all:
I recently got a //c with the 5-1/4" internal drive and was playing around
with it last night. It doesn't seem to want to boot DOS 3.3 and it seems to
only be able to boot ProDOS disks, which stops after the splash screen
(copyright notice) with a "relocation/configuration error". DOS 3.3 won't
boot at all. I've seen this error before with ProDOS but I don't remember
the reason. This error occurs with both ProDOS 1.1.1 and 1.9 disks, and I
tried multiple working disks.
This is a strange one but since I don't have much experience with the //c I
wanted to throw this problem out to the group. Any thoughts?
Rich
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
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Anyone know of a source for a screwdriver that will turn the security
screws in a N-64. I have one and a child was so thoughtful to try to use
it as a piggy bank... i don't wanna fire it up 'till I get the pennies out
of it...
At 10:34 PM 1/18/02 -0600, you wrote:
>On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Russ Blakeman wrote:
> > On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Tothwolf wrote:
> >
> > > Are there 3 indentations around the edges of the fasteners? If so,
> > > these could be a type of Japanese fastener often found in mid '80s to
> > > early '90s video game systems. Bits that fit those kinds of fasteners
> > > are available, at about $1.50-$2 each, and they come in 2 different
> > > sizes.
> >
> > Or you could check a tool supplier like MCM electronics and just pop for a
> > one-time purchase on a multi-type "security bit" set - I got a nice set
> in a
> > pliable small holder last year with nearly every common security bit for
> > under $30. I thought maybe I'd never use all of t hem but I've used all but
> > maybe 3 of them.
>
>Well, I wouldn't exactly call MCM a tool supplier... The multi-type
>security bit set they sell does not come with bits that fit the Japanese
>fasteners. MCM does sell them separately, tho. In some newer equipment
>that uses these fasteners, those bits are of no use, since the screws are
>to far down in the hole. The Nintendo Game Cube is an example of this kind
>of equipment. Full length Japanese screwdrivers are available that fit
>those things, but after import, they typically cost $20-30 (ouch) each.
>
>I was recently asked to work on equipment that had tri-wing screws holding
>it together. It was apparent someone had tried to use pliers to remove the
>screws, but was unsuccessful. I don't yet have a set of tri-wing bits, so
>MCM might get some business from me after all.
>
>-Toth
Hello,
GCC has support for the PDP-11, but is anyone using it to (cross)
compile any code?
--
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Brinkhoff Consulting http://www.brinkhoff.se/ programming
Does someone have a HP Laserjet III, and want to upgrade it to level 2
Postscript? I saw one being scrapped, and though I cant take the machine
(nor would i want to) I did take out the parts that upgraded it to level
2 Postscript. A "HP Laserjet III PostScript Cartridge Plus" and a 1 Meg
memory card. I see you can get bigger and better memory cards for this
printer on ebay, and the printer has slots for adding 2 memory cards.
If you need it, let me know.
-Lawrence LeMay
lemay(a)cs.umn.edu
I have a cute little Epson Equity IIe and can't find a diagnostic disk for
the girl. Anyone got one out there?
Thanks!
Tarsi
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Someone (Tothwolf ?) was looking for a SSC. There's one on E-Pay with about a day
to go. No bids as yet at $5.00. #1320409375
Not my sale.
Lawrence
Reply to:
lgwalker(a)mts.net
All,
More info about the stylewriter.
1) Desoldered 4 of the 9 suspect transistors. They pass the 1-st order test
Tony suggested (high resistance E to C and C to E, current flows B to E and
B to C but not vice-versa). "Resistance" is not consistent if I change
ranges on my VOM, (I see the same needle movement on different ranges) but
is consistent among transistors and B-C to B-E. I busted two legs off while
trying to pull them out, so I'm definitely in the market for at least 2 and
up to 9 off 2SB1243 transistors (or equivalents). Anybody know a good
source near San Antonio?
2) The markings were indeed "B1243". The only other markings are a pair of
digits that look like "88" under the "43", but the first "8" has too big a
top loop and too little a bottom loop, and both are slightly squared-off
compared to a normal "8".
3) All the transistor Collectors go to wide traces on the ribbon cable via
two pins each on the connector.
4) All the Emitters are ganged together via a wide trace on the PCB. I have
not figured out where that trace ends up. Emitters also have narrow traces
leading into a big array of small surface-mount components with numbers
like "511" or "151" on them (not necessarily those numbers, but numbers
like those).
5) The bases also have narrow traces going off into the small surface-mount
array.
6) The power supply wall-wart does not have any fasteners under the label,
nor any feet. Its recessed fasteners have hemispherical metal heads covered
with some sort of dark anodize-like coating (it can be scratched off with a
sharp tool).
Next project is to pry the seam apart on the power supply, shove in
a screwdriver to hold it open thereby putting some tension on the
fasteners, then take a soldering iron to the fasteners to heat them up and
see what gives. I'll try to do some more circuit-tracing as well, but that
is looking harder.
I'll also check the ribbon cable again. I put that off until I ran
out of time last night, in part because I'm gonna feel really goofy if that
turns out to be the problem after all.
BTW, my VOM runs on a single AA 1.5V battery. Can I toast anything
by trying to check resistance with it? Should I stay out of the "R x 1"
range or something like that?
- Mark
Hi. I've got a Convergent Technologies 68020 (typically a MitiFrame) in
a MiniFrame (typically a 68010) case, that needs a new home.
This is a pretty complete machine: it's got 2 MB of RAM (I think), 2
MFM hard disks (I don't remember capacity, but I believe that one is
147 MB and the other is smaller), and a tape drive (DC-600, I think).
It has an ethernet card, and runs CTIX (I forget the version; this is
Convergent Technologies' implmentation of System V, R2 (maybe R3) UNIX).
I have lots of documentation, as well as distribution media for this machine.
I am not interested in shipping this. I am located in Denver, CO, and
would be delighted if someone would tell me "I want this," and then
come pick it up. It would fit easily in a car. It booted just fine
about a week ago, but I did no extensive testing.
PB Schechter
> > Like you don't have your own VMS systems... :-)
>
> Too true...but none quite that beefy. :)
>
> -Dave
Get a nice semi-Modern Alpha instead, your electric bill will thank you, and
you have software available that won't run on a VAX.
Zane
On January 18, Zane H. Healy wrote:
> > > Like you don't have your own VMS systems... :-)
> >
> > Too true...but none quite that beefy. :)
>
> Get a nice semi-Modern Alpha instead, your electric bill will thank you, and
> you have software available that won't run on a VAX.
I've got modern Alphas. Crays too. That's not the point. :)
-Dave
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St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
I have a Mac SE that while attempting to remove the motherboard to replace
bad memory, I smacked my hand into the CRT filament/plates socket, and
cracked the CRT. (ouch!) I want to try and salvage the system, and was
wondering:
1) Does anyone have a CRT for it that I could get for less than the price
of another SE + shipping?
or
2) Is it possible to modify it to use a standard Mac (15 pin) monitor?
Thanks!
-- Pat
! From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com]
!
!
! On January 17, Eric Dittman wrote:
! > I've seen MV2000 around, and they pop up on eBay a lot. As to
! > owning a real VAX at your house, there are so many cheap VAX
! > systems that pop up on eBay all the time that that statement
! > is truly false.
!
! I agree. I think everyone that I associate with has at least one
! VAX at home, except for my mom. I think I might get her one just for
! the hell of it. :-)
!
! -Dave
Yeah, if I see one for cheap enough, I'll let you know ;-) Then we
can set her up with (some OS) running Xwindows... Make that when, not if.
I got my first, and so far only, VAX for $25.00 from here at work.
It doesn't seem hard to find a cheap one, for now at least...
BTW, does anyone know of an empty VAX cabinet, something like the
11/780 VAXbar size, that's in need of dispo? In the CT (or VT, vacation
house up there) area.
Some other similar classic computer cabinet would suffice, but a VAX
would be nice, for name recognition. I am honestly thinking on making my own
VAXbar for my computer-room/lounge in my house... Maybe some other
conversion. Add in a keg-erator?
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On January 18, Eric Dittman wrote:
> > > > > How much would you pay for a VAX 7000-650?
> > > >
> > > > As much as I could afford to blow on it at the time. I'd love to have a VAX 7000. :)
> > >
> > > Well, the question's kinda moot, since I've decided not to sell it.
> >
> > Excellent! Now maybe I can get an account on it! 8-)
> >
> > (Just pickin' on you, Sridhar!)
>
> Like you don't have your own VMS systems... :-)
Too true...but none quite that beefy. :)
-Dave
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St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
On January 18, Jochen Kunz wrote:
> > How much would you pay for a VAX 7000-650?
> My mother? ;-)
Is she cute? ;)
(sorry, it HAD to be said!!)
-Dave
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St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
This is OT, but could be important if you use the US mail to send components
(especially compact flash cards), which can be permanently damaged by the
system the USPS is starting to use to guard against anthrax, etc:
<http://www.compactflash.org/pr/020107b.pdf>
>It's not all that hard to do... I guess I've done it 0.5% of the times
>I've worked on a classic Mac. :-(
I've opened and worked on countless classic Macs, and I've NEVER broken
the CRT. But from the sounds of others, I have just been really lucky.
Of course, now that I have said it, I bet I bust the next one I work on.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Does anyone know how the Toshiba T3200 and T5200 external drives work ?
Anyone have a circuit diagram or interface spec ? They interface to the
printer
port, so I guess data transfers will be 8-bit.
Chris
Hey gang,
Went shopping this weekend to one of my secret hideaways and found 3 racks
of HP1000/E stuff. Good thing I have a big truck or I'd have top make
several trips.
None of those system has a hard drive but, each one does have a 9885 floppy
drive. Since I'm just getting started with the 1000s, I've got a couple of
newbie questions.
1.) Does the 9885 require special disks or will generic 8" floppies work?
What is the format for the disks?
2) Can RTE be run from a floppy system?
3.) And of course... Does anyone have a copy of RTE or any other OS on
compatible floppy they'd be willing to share?
TIA, SteveRob
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com]
> Somewhere recently, I'm pretty sure it was on one of these
> two lists,
> someone ribbed me for being "such a pushover" for my cat.
> I took this pic earlier...tell me, who could help being a pushover
> for this?
Well, she has good taste in computers.
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
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print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris [mailto:mythtech@Mac.com]
> Things I have that *might* make my life easier: Super Serial card for
> II+/IIe, A IIgs with both 5.25 and 3.5 drives, A IIe Emulator
> for the Mac
> LC and a 5.25 drive for it. As well as a few II+, IIe, IIc, and IIgs
> machines.
I would go with the IIGS method, myself. Remember that the IIGS supports localtalk networking, and chances are you could get it to image a disk onto a "remote" macintosh disk somewhere, given the proper software. (Note that I don't know if such software exists...)
I seem to remember there may be a "disk copy" like app for IIGS, but I couldn't tell you where I've seen it.
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
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'
I have a Bondwell B310 Laptop. It is in excellent condition with no visual
damage to the case, LCD, or keyboard. I do not have the power supply, so I
have not been able to boot it and test.
My company is getting ready to move to a new building and we found the
laptop in a storage closet. No one wanted it and I thought that it could go
to a good home.
If interested, please let me know and make an offer.
Thanks,
Bill Smith
wjs82(a)hotmail.com
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On January 18, Rumi Szabolcs wrote:
> >I already own the system. I'm just seeing how much I should be asking for
> >ballpark from a reseller. FYI, I paid $1300 for the whole shabang.
>
> If you got a 7650 for $1300 then it was a gift from the Lord.
> I'd never sell such a gift...
Well actually that deal was a gift from ME, and if he sells it, I
want a cut of the take! ;) It took quite a bit of negotiating to get
that deal.
-Dave
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On January 18, Tom Uban wrote:
> Excellent cat picture! I think that the fact that there are computers
> in the picture keeps it on topic. What is the VR01 plasma display hooked
> up to?
Ahh, good catch! :-) It's attached to a VT1000 X-terminal that I've
been using primarily as a dual-port serial terminal.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
Hello all,
Picked up a Vaxstation 4000/90 the other day and am looking for a couple
of parts for it. Does anyone here have a spare cdrom sled and the open
front panel piece for the case? I'd like to take my cdrom out of the
external case and mount it internally to free up precious physical
desktop space.
Thanks,
William
--
You better watch out What you wish for;
It better be worth it So much to die for.
Courtney Love
I am thinking about get one BULL DPX/2 system (Motorola 68020 processor)
but the system don't have OS installed. Could it be possible to obtain
a copy ? The system has one 350 SCSI Hard Disk and one QIC tape.
Thanks and Greetings
Sergio
On January 18, Julius Sridhar wrote:
> > > > > How much would you pay for a VAX 7000-650?
> > > > My mother? ;-)
> > >
> > > Seriously. I'm thinking of selling mine.
> >
> > Yes, but what would your father have to say about that? ;)
>
> Did I ever tell you you're a bastard? 8-)
Muahahahha!!!
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
On January 18, Julius Sridhar wrote:
> > > How much would you pay for a VAX 7000-650?
> > My mother? ;-)
>
> Seriously. I'm thinking of selling mine.
Yes, but what would your father have to say about that? ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
In a message dated 1/16/02 12:29:00 PM Pacific Standard Time,
vze2wsvr(a)verizon.net writes:
> It is an ISA-16 card. It has a 68000, w/2 27128 EEPROMs, 16 1259-15 RAM
> chips
> and Intel
> chips, 82586 and 8253-5. The rest looks to be TTL, a couple of connectors
> and
> couple of
> crystals, 16 and 20 MHz.
>
> It was made by Bridge Communications, USA, in 1987. And it has a D-shell
> 15
> pin (like a
> Mac video -2 rows of pins) female connector on the back.
>
>
Could be an early AUI ethernet controller. The 82586 was intel's ethernet
co-processor. It worked with a CPU chip. Ungerman Bass used an 80186 with the
82586 in their ethernet ISA cards.
Bridge Communications also made boxes for bridging different systems and
standards.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
On January 17, Heinz Wolter wrote:
> just thought someone in the group might be interested
> in this find - only 64 megs of ram :( location SF, CA
That's respectable for an ES/9000...and that's only primary
storage..
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
Having just looked at the Apple II Compact Flash interface link, it
suddenly dawned on me... I have stacks of Apple II disks that may be (or
heaven forbid already) passing their shelf life.
So, I figured the best place to start my quest for the best way to long
term store these disks, would be to ask the place most likely to have
people that have conquered this issue.
I have recently begun this project for all my old Mac disks (having just
come across a batch that have aged away). The Mac is WAY easier, I am
just making Disk Copy disk images, dumping those across the network, and
burning to CD.
What is the popular opinion on the best way to store Apple II disks long
term? Is there something similar to Disk Copy to make images? If so, what
is the best way to transfer those to a Mac or PC for burning to CD?
Things I have that *might* make my life easier: Super Serial card for
II+/IIe, A IIgs with both 5.25 and 3.5 drives, A IIe Emulator for the Mac
LC and a 5.25 drive for it. As well as a few II+, IIe, IIc, and IIgs
machines.
Any hints (or "this is the best way" instructions) greatly appreciated.
Be kind, my Apple II knowledge is rusty, it has been years since I used
them.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
On January 17, Eric Dittman wrote:
> I've seen MV2000 around, and they pop up on eBay a lot. As to
> owning a real VAX at your house, there are so many cheap VAX
> systems that pop up on eBay all the time that that statement
> is truly false.
I agree. I think everyone that I associate with has at least one
VAX at home, except for my mom. I think I might get her one just for
the hell of it. :-)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
In a message dated 1/17/2002 6:38:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lgwalker(a)mts.net writes:
<< > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Tothwolf wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Russ Blakeman wrote:
> > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Julius Sridhar wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Tothwolf wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Right, I didn't even think about the ISA machines. I've seen so
many of
> > > > > the microchannel systems that I often forget about the others. As I
> > > > > think about it, I might actually have several model 25s instead of
50s.
> > > > > Guess I'll find out once I uncover them.
> > > >
> > > > It's hard to confuse them. The 25 is an all-in-one. The easier
ones to
> > > > confuse are the 30 and the 55SX, as they came in the same case.
> > >
> > > Model 40 and below are ISA, 50 series and above are microchannel. The
> > > 30-286 and 55SX used the same case but the 30 (8086) had a similar but
> > > plastic beige/brown (as opposed to all beige steel) case.
> >
> > Well, at least I've got a general idea what I've got stored away now. I
> > may have to go unbury them tonight, just to satisfy my curiosity.
>
> I uncovered the stack of machines. All of them are in fair to good
> condition, but missing their hard drives. They seem to be intact
> otherwise.
>
> 2 - Model 55SX (8555)
> 1 - Model 30 286 (8530)
> 1 - Model 30 (8530)
> 1 - Model 50 (8550)
>
> Does anyone know why IBM choose to use the same part number for the Model
> 30 and Model 30 286?
>
> -Toth
>
: Do you mean the SN # ? Don't have a 30 286 to check but most
:IBMs had a model subset that better described it like the 8580-111
:8580-Axx or in the PS/1s for example the 2133-011. Mueller has
:most listed in his 3rd edition but not the SN #s. >>
All PS/2 models start with 85 or 95 for the model number. Serial numbers
starting with 23 were built in RTP, NC. numbers starting with 78 were born in
Greenock, I think.
--
Antique Computer Virtual Museum
www.nothingtodo.org
Anyone know about these? It's about 5.75" X 6.75", with a 100 position (50
each side) card-edge connector, and ejection levers on the front. 64K ram,
1x 2716 EPROM with a handwritten label `Satrom 0942 24 Mar 81' over the
window. A little googling reveals that 20002 is the zip code for DC and not
much else so far. :(
Thanks!
Bob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Allain [mailto:allain@panix.com]
> Personally I have seen only one mV2000 in 10 years,
> outside of eBay, so I'd say he's right.
Well, I have one friend who's looking for a MicroVAX (or VAXStation) 2000, who's ahead of you in line, but I'll post the next one I find _after_ this one to the list. ;)
I do know where to find one, since another guy I know has one he's not going to do anything with. It's just a matter of talking him into digging it up.
Otherwise, I had all kinds of trouble finding these things until I bought my first VAXStation 2000 (eBay, believe it or not...), and then they just started popping up everywhere. Maybe you should try that?
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
I forward them all...
- John
>From: "jkd1932" <jkd1932(a)starpower.net>
>To: <jfoust(a)foust.org>
>Subject: IBM PC'S
>Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 20:12:20 -0500
>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400
>
>Mr. Foust, the organization I work with has two IBM PS/2, 286, PC's to give to anyone who wants them. I am in the Washington,DC/Baltimore,MD area. I have tried re-cycling groups, but they don't want them. Then I thought there would be a collector who would interested. Both systems are in excellent condition. I would appreciate your advice. I have looked at the "Classic Computer Rescue List", but did not find anyone who would be interested.
>
>Ken Diggs, Damascus,MD
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Merle K. Peirce [mailto:at258@osfn.org]
> We seem to have a surfeit of Decwriters. Would anyone be
> interested in one?
Interested, yes -- those are teletypes, right? ... but how big are they? I certainly can't make it to RI right now to pick one up. :) (really too bad...)
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
>I have a Mac SE that while attempting to remove the motherboard to replace
>bad memory, I smacked my hand into the CRT filament/plates socket, and
>cracked the CRT.
How hard did you hit the thing?!? (let me guess, pulling the power cable
off the mobo, it was stuck, and you pulled a little too hard to free it)
>1) Does anyone have a CRT for it that I could get for less than the price
>of another SE + shipping?
Check the LEM swap list (www.lowendmac.com), you can probably find an SE
for free (plus shipping).
If you had two forevers to wait, someplace I have two SEs with fried
motherboards, and would happily part with one... but I admit that it will
be some time before I get the chance to search for them (they are in one
of 3 locations, and I don't know WHICH of the SEs at those locations are
the ones that are dead).
>2) Is it possible to modify it to use a standard Mac (15 pin) monitor?
I don't think so, but there are some 3rd party external video cards for
the SE... but I suspect you will need to get it up and running before you
can activate the external video card. Does it currently even power up?
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
On eBay someone has a MV2000 for a BIN price of $25.00. That's
very reasonable. What is not reasonable is they describe it as
"RARE!" and say "This is as close as you'll get to owning a real
VAX at your house!".
Some eBay sellers must never run a search on current and completed
items for things they are selling.
--
Eric Dittman
dittman(a)dittman.net
Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/
Rumor has it that Tothwolf may have mentioned these words:
>2 - Model 55SX (8555)
>1 - Model 30 286 (8530)
>1 - Model 30 (8530)
>1 - Model 50 (8550)
>
>Does anyone know why IBM choose to use the same part number for the Model
>30 and Model 30 286?
Because they're both Model 30's??? ;-)
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
--
Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an *older* .sig.
(circa 1997!) Why does Hershey's put nutritional information on
their candy bar wrappers when there's no nutritional value within?
In a message dated 1/17/2002 3:13:58 PM Central Standard Time,
doc(a)mdrconsult.com writes:
> On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Julius Sridhar wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Russ Blakeman wrote:
> >
> > > There aren't a lot of those around either...
> >
> > I have one. Along with an N51SX, and one of my prized possessions, a
> > CL57SX. I want to get the Thinkpad 700 (some models were also
> > Microchannel, if not all) and the Thinkpad Power Seried 830.
>
> Why not the TP 860? That's the REAL Holy Grail of RS/6000s....
>
>
Too bad they never finished the PPC version of OS/2 to run on it. 8-[
--
Christine Finn, the Oxford Archaeolgist author of "Artifacts: An
Archaeologist's Year in Silicon Valley"
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0262062240/
will be in Seattle for a reading at the University Bookstore 7pm Thurs,
Jan 17:
http://www.bookstore.washington.edu/ubs/main.taf?area=events&page=events&ca…
and then plans to hang out with and interview random computer collectors
for her next book. I'll be hosting her at my Bainbridge Island place
during her stay, so send me a note if you'd like to hang out with us on
the island, or send her a note if you'd like to arrange a meeting
elsewhere in the Seattle area:
Christine Finn <christine.finn(a)archaeology.oxford.ac.uk>
Cheers,
Doug
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Dittman [mailto:dittman@dittman.net]
> On eBay someone has a MV2000 for a BIN price of $25.00. That's
> very reasonable. What is not reasonable is they describe it as
> "RARE!" and say "This is as close as you'll get to owning a real
> VAX at your house!".
Well, I have a few problems with that statement, myself.
The MicroVAX 2000 _is_ a real VAX. :)
So are the four VAXen I have which aren't MicroVAX 2000s, and which are also not "RARE!"
There are 8 VAXen (does that make a whole heard?) "at my house," two of which aren't mine.
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
On Jan 16, 22:54, Bill Bradford wrote:
> Anybody know what DEC item these are from? I got a bunch of them
> (at the time, in a little foam "holder" in a box) a few months ago
> with a big batch of PDP-11 stuff, but my dog got ahold of it and
> they're now all over a section of the carpet in my garage..
>
> http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/bulbs.jpg
They look like the panel bulbs for a PDP-8, which are the same as for
things like a DX11 or RK05 drives. Did the earliest Unibus machines also
use bulbs or were they always LEDs? Anyway, they're worth saving. The
correct bulbs are hard to get now (the types I've found available are
higher current than the correct ones).
Bi-pin fuses are about the same size but don't have the glass, er, bulb, on
top :-)
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
How important is it to keep old catalogs, cross-reference data,
component buyers guides, data books, data sheets, etc.??? I've collected
a LOT of the above from about the mid 70's and while not ready to
dispose of it yet, I am really curious what others on this list think
about keeping such stuff. As for some examples:
RCA SK Cross Reference/Replacement Catalog
1974 IC Master
1976 C&K Switch Catalog
Printouts of instructions for CP/M utilities, programs, etc.
And on the topic of getting rid of stuff, I had been in contact with
some list members last year about IIRC HP tapes, OS/2 something, etc. A
lot of that stuff got packed away (we had company) and I am just
starting to dig stuff out again. I can't remember who wanted this stuff,
so if you will email me with what we had discussed, I'll keep my eyes
open for the stuff and get back to you as I find it. Thanks.
>Yes, and the 80186 -- 68010.
>Both existed but were not popular in many systems. Both equally
>quite rare in that regard.
Not entirely true.
Clearly the 68010 was quickly eclipsed by the 68020 and thus showed up in
relatively few systems. This is different, BTW, than not being popular.
OTOH, the 80186 (including the AMD Am186 line) was a wildly successful chip
in the embedded systems world. Vast numbers of devices based on the '186
are out there, often because one could use the IBM PC and follow-ons,
hardware & software, as development platforms on the (relative) cheap.
Ken
On January 17, Eric Chomko wrote:
> Wasn't the 3270 emulator a dual card setup?
Are you thinking of the 370 emulator? I have a few 3270 boards from
various manufacturers here, and they're all on single boards. I've
never seen one of those neat 370 emulators but I wouldn't be surprised
if they're multiple-board units.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
Yeah, they do _look_ like fuses from a SparcStation 1 and 1+...
--- David A Woyciesjes
--- C & IS Support Specialist
--- Yale University Press
--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
--- (203) 432-0953
--- ICQ # - 905818
! -----Original Message-----
! From: Eric Dittman [mailto:dittman@dittman.net]
! Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:49 AM
! To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
! Subject: Re: What DEC item are these from?
!
!
! > On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 11:03:09PM -0600, Eric Dittman wrote:
! > > It's hard to tell from the picture. These could be bulbs, or they
! > > could be fuses. Is the clear part plastic, and does it
! have a flat
! > > top?
! >
! > Look at the url - bulbs.jpg. 8-)
! >
! > Round top on the clear part.
!
! The fuses I'm thinking of look kind of like bulbs, and some of
! them in the picture looked like they might have flat tops, so
! I figured I'd make sure.
! --
! Eric Dittman
! dittman(a)dittman.net
! Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/
!
On January 17, Christopher Smith wrote:
> > We seem to have a surfeit of Decwriters. Would anyone be
> > interested in one?
>
> Interested, yes -- those are teletypes, right? ... but how big are they? I certainly can't make it to RI right now to pick one up. :) (really too bad...)
Uhh...DECwriter != Teletype. First of all, DECwriters made by
DEC, and Teletypes aren't. :)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
! From: Eric Dittman [mailto:dittman@dittman.net]
!
!
! > The HP 3000/922 is a PA-RISC system, running MPE/iX. It
! > isn't supported
! > by the PuffinGroup port of Linux. Just the computer is
! > about the size
! > of a 2-drawer file cabinet.
!
! Too big for me, and I'm not close, but I was told by an HP
! engineer that the PA-RISC HP3000 systems can be converted
! to the equivalent PA-RISC HP9000 by twiddling the firmware
! on the CPU card.
Now why isn't there any fun medium-sized hardware like that pop up
around here in CT? Does anyone know of any scrappers in this area?
--- David A Woyciesjes
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--- Yale University Press
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John ---
I'm forwardeding this to the ClassicCmp.org mail list for you. Maybe
someone there can help...
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! -----Original Message-----
! From: John Maier
!
!
! I have in my grubby hands, a uVAX III (KA650) CPU board but
! the memory board (alas) was
! physically damaged by the original owner...
!
! Doing so research at http://vaxarchive.sevensages.org/hw/
! they mention...
!
! uVAX II --
! Do not try to use LMI memory modules intended for later
! MicroVAX systems (modules like the
! MS650-series, etc)!
!
! uVAX III --
! ...or you can use LMI MicroVAX III memory modules. Do not try
! to use LMI memory modules
! intended for earlier MicroVAX systems (modules of the
! MS630-series, etc)!
!
! Why? I would love to upgrade my uVAX II/GPX from it's 0.9
! VUP lumber to a spry 3.0 VUP..
! :-)
!
! Additionally if I ever can find a 64Meg QBus memeory
! card...<john dreams>
!
! John Maier - Administrator
! Midamerica Internet Services
! 573-446-8881
! http://www.midamerica.net
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On January 16, Bill Bradford wrote:
> Anybody know what DEC item these are from? I got a bunch of them
> (at the time, in a little foam "holder" in a box) a few months ago
> with a big batch of PDP-11 stuff, but my dog got ahold of it and
> they're now all over a section of the carpet in my garage..
>
> http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/bulbs.jpg
>
> Are they worth picking up and saving, or should I just get out the
> vaccuum?
These are PDP8 front-panel bulbs...also used in RK05s and many other
things. Definitely save them.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
Hi, gang,
I may not be on the list any more, but I still get the occasional offer of old hardware.
I've got two this week that one or more of you may be interested in. Please note the attached message, and PLEASE RESPOND DIRECTLY TO THE ORIGINAL SENDER!!! I don't have the equipment, and I am in no position to act as a go-between.
Here's the first one.
*********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE ***********
On 16-Jan-02 at 08:12 Debra Voeller <debbily(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>I have a working (?) pdp 11/03, RX02-dual floppy drives, oodles of books,
>installation software, original 'printsets', VT320, VT100 and LA180
>impact printer that needs a new home.
>I can't get a prompt but everything powers up....could be that the monitor
>is not set right.
>
>I tripped over your homepage and thought you might be interested. I'm in
>Washington state (Pierce County). Do you know anyone interested in buying
>this?
*********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE ***********
FWIW, her description puts her near Tacoma, WA. She did send me a .jpg of the system which I will E-mail to anyone who requests that I do so.
The second item is a mid-to-late 80's vintage minicomputer in a nice three-foot high tabletop rack. It is currently at Connector World Supply just north of Seattle. It was working fine the last time it was powered on less than a year ago, and as far as I know is a freebie, available to whoever makes arrangements to pick it up first.
Contact: Connie Richard, (206) 789-7525 during normal business hours. Tell her I sent you.
Thanks much.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy,
Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com
ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
"I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior
to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)
On Jan 16, 21:25, Marvin Johnston wrote:
>
> How important is it to keep old catalogs, cross-reference data,
> component buyers guides, data books, data sheets, etc.??? I've collected
> a LOT of the above from about the mid 70's and while not ready to
> dispose of it yet, I am really curious what others on this list think
> about keeping such stuff. As for some examples:
>
> RCA SK Cross Reference/Replacement Catalog
> 1974 IC Master
Those are definitely worth keeping, if you do repairs or build your own
hardware.
> 1976 C&K Switch Catalog
Probably.
> Printouts of instructions for CP/M utilities, programs, etc.
Depends on the programs. The common ones aren't hard to find docs for on
the net. If you have the software, keep the printouts.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
With all this talk about 286 PCs, anybody interested
in an ALL Chargecard hardware memory manager to turn
your PS/2 50, 60, or 30/286 into a 386 (sort of)?
Only fits PGA, no LCC or PLCC adapters; brand new,
never tested (didn't/don't have a PGA 286 board).
mike
Anybody know what DEC item these are from? I got a bunch of them
(at the time, in a little foam "holder" in a box) a few months ago
with a big batch of PDP-11 stuff, but my dog got ahold of it and
they're now all over a section of the carpet in my garage..
http://www.mrbill.net/~mrbill/bulbs.jpg
Are they worth picking up and saving, or should I just get out the
vaccuum?
Bill
--
Bill Bradford
mrbill(a)mrbill.net
Austin, TX
In a message dated 1/16/2002 11:13:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,
vance(a)ikickass.org writes:
<< On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, bill pointon wrote:
> there is also the 30 with the 80186 - also isa -- billp
I know. He had made the observation that all Models 40 and below were
ISA, and I was pointing out the oddball exception. The PS/2 L40SX is
Microchannel.
Peace... Sridhar >>
well don't forget that neat little PS/2E ISA machine. I lucked out and got
two cheaply in their boxes simply because the person that had them didnt
understand MCA error codes. You can get lots of PS/2s cheaply that way.
--
Antique Computer Virtual Museum
www.nothingtodo.org
In a message dated 1/16/2002 9:38:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rcini(a)optonline.net writes:
<< I know that this is going to sound silly, but what version of DOS/ProDOS is
designed to work with the //c? Or, should I ask if there was a special
system disk for the //c? I have ready access to DOS 3.3, ProDOS 1.9 and
2.something. >>
any of them will work. Prodos will give you a /RAM volume since the computer
has 128k.
--
Antique Computer Virtual Museum
www.nothingtodo.org
I know that this is going to sound silly, but what version of DOS/ProDOS is
designed to work with the //c? Or, should I ask if there was a special
system disk for the //c? I have ready access to DOS 3.3, ProDOS 1.9 and
2.something.
Thanks.
Rich
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
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I got my first invoice from Earthlink yesterday for two months
worth of service. The only problem was I didn't have the modem
for the first two weeks of it, so I thought I shouldn't have
to pay for it.
I sent an EMail to Earthlink explaining the situation, and
requested a credit of $12.99 for the unused portion of the
month, and they replied today with the information $13.00
had been creditted to my account, and an apology for the
inconvience it caused.
<WOW>
Clint is happy today...
PS If anyone wants to switch to earthlink, mention my email
address and I get a referral bonus, to be repaid in spare
bits of junk er um antique computer parts :)
On January 16, Colin Eby wrote:
> I appreciate you're coveting... but the system's not
> mine to give. It belongs to CSC, and was left-over
> from our Y2K group. They had just stuck it in a closet
> and forgotten it. As the resident UNIX guru at the
> time it was on my inventory. When I moved out into the
> field I claimed it as a workstation. Since nobody knew
> it existed, and since it was way past the 3-year
> depreciation cycle, there weren't any objections.
> Unforunately CSC doesn't allow for any internal
> purchasing because of liability issues. So I couldn't
> buy it off them.
Bummer. :-( It's cool that you get to hack on it, though!
> I too would like to get a hold of a board. The system
> here at the office is the 591. That's the earlier
> board design. There are three different versions. I'd
> love to get a hold of an MCA board like this one
> because I have equivalent RS6000 hardware in my
> private collection. I could easily host such a thing.
> The later boards are, I believe, PCI, and in two
> differnt versions. I've never seen the board appear on
> auction sites -- and I'm worried that anyone who did
> have one, might not know it, since it just sits in
> otherwise ordinary gear. The best I can tell you is
> watch out for specific models of hardware and hassle
> the seller to see if they omitted the board. The
> models are the PC330 and PC500 intel systems. And in
> RS6000 they've used F50, 591 and a few 390 systems.
I've seen a few go on eBay. They get...expensive. Painfully
expensive.
> >From what I've learned so far -- you won't hear much
> about these systems in the open systems community. If
> you go trolling through vendor and support
> organization sites, stick to the mainframe folks. I'm
> afraid that's as much of a brain dump as I've got on
> sourcing these boards. If you do find a source, please
> pass the information on. I'd love to add one to my
> collection. Until then I'll have to deal with
> Hercules. Not that this is a bad thing. Hercules on a
> decent piece of hardware is considerably faster then a
> P390 board. The one I've got is all of 72mHz clock
> speed and 128MB RAM. You could build a much more
> substantial LINUX based system to host a mainframe
> operating system.
Yes but then I'd have to deal with a PeeCee. And Linux. Thanks for
the info though. :-)
As I mentioned in other mail, I have a P/390 here (PCI version) that I
haven't gotten running yet. The PeeCee hardware is doing what it does
best...being an inconsistent pile of monkey turds. I hate PeeCees. I
think I'm just gonna have to get an S/390 and deal with the electric
bill. Might as well do it right.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
I am forwarding this interesting bit of news from the PDP-8 newsgroup
that John has to say.
John Curnow wrote:
>
> Anyone interested in buying my PDP-8/S?
>
> I only have the computer itself, with no peripherals.
> It is complete and seems to work. I did toggle a small program into it about
> ten years ago and it worked fine. It is circa 1966 and the serial number is
> 127.
>
> Contact me by email if you are interested. I can send you some pictures and
> more details.
>
> Cheers,
> John Curnow
> jcurnow(a)mondenet.com
On January 16, Boatman on the River of Suck wrote:
> And you would have to deal with the lack of I/O and Memory bandwidth of a
> PC. A P/390 will *stomp* a PC running Hercules for most of the popular
> mainframe applications (eg. DB2, CICS, COBOL, etc.).
What he said. :)
> Or you could get yourself a PCI-based RS/6000 and not have to deal with
> any of the PC bullshit.
That's what I'd really like to do, but I can't afford one right
now... :-(
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
On January 16, Boatman on the River of Suck wrote:
> > > As I mentioned in other mail, I have a P/390 here (PCI version) that I
> > > haven't gotten running yet. The PeeCee hardware is doing what it does
> > > best...being an inconsistent pile of monkey turds. I hate PeeCees. I
> > > think I'm just gonna have to get an S/390 and deal with the electric
> > > bill. Might as well do it right.
> >
> > Well, if you decide to dump the P/390, I would like to buy it.
>
> Get in line. 8-)
Hey, no fair, I GOT the darned thing from you! ;)
-Dave
--
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On January 16, Eric Dittman wrote:
> > As I mentioned in other mail, I have a P/390 here (PCI version) that I
> > haven't gotten running yet. The PeeCee hardware is doing what it does
> > best...being an inconsistent pile of monkey turds. I hate PeeCees. I
> > think I'm just gonna have to get an S/390 and deal with the electric
> > bill. Might as well do it right.
>
> Well, if you decide to dump the P/390, I would like to buy it.
Ahh, thanks for the offer, but I've gotta keep this one. :-)
-Dave
--
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St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
On Jan 16, 21:12, Tony Duell wrote:
> > Towers is excellent, and I'd not be without my well-thumbed copy. I
>
> Agreed. I also have the FET/MOSpower (==MOSFET) one, and the
> op-amps/comparators one. All are very useful. I once saw the
> microprocessor Towers book, but I didn't think that was very useful -- it
> didn't give pinouts for the devices, for example.
I only have the transistors and the micros ones. I do find the latter
quite useful, as I can often look up the pinouts somewhere else, or
sometimes I just want to know what type of device some chip is.
> Where do you get them from, and how do you order them (given that the
> titles are in Japanese)?
They were either 99p or 199p each from CPC. IIRC they were on one of their
special offer sheets that they send out to account customers every weekend,
about 18 monthsor a couple of years ago. Probably a one-off special as I
don't see them in the catalogue :-(
The transistor one is about 5/8" thick, 8.3" wide x 5.8" high, and it says
"'97 The Transistor Manual" on the front in Eglish, and something in
Japanese underneath. On the back it has two barcodes (one EAN, the other
JAN?) 978478983614 and 1923055013001, and "ISBN 4-7898-4361-0 C3055
Y1300E" (the 'Y' is actually a Yen symbol, but in deference to the
ISO-8859-impaired I've approximated :-))
The other two are obviously part of the same set.
> I tend to wait for a new one to come out and then hunt around for a
> bookshop selling off the old ones at a much-reduced price. OK, so I'm a
> little out of date, but that's not too much of a problem most of the time
> (after all, much of the stuff I work on is out of date too).
York isn't blessed with many of the right sort of bookshop, but that seems
like a good way to get them. Mine are pretty old, around 1980.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Jan 16, 17:25, Arlen Michaels wrote:
> BTW, does anyone know if there's an internal adjustment to brighten these
> up? It seems that a lot of the surviving NeXT mono screens have gone
quite
> dim.
The cathode in the CRT used in the 4000A loses its emission ability over
time. There's nothing you can do about it. The usual techniques for tube
rejuvenation don't seem to work.
The later 4000B monitors use a different tube which doesn't seem to suffer
in the same way.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Got some misc stuff I don't want.
A few boards pulled from an old PBX:
One marked `LC 96B V 1' and `SYSTEM CONTROL', one marked `LC 78B V 1' &
`PROCESSOR' (AMD 8080A CPU!) & one marked `LC 95C V 4' & `MEMORY 1' (two
banks of 9x uhhhh 1484?, one bank of 8 wide ceramic 24 pin DIPs). The dang
thing weighed a ton, so I couldn't get the whole chassis, but I pulled the
more interesting cards.
One Sperry PC 384KB memory upgrade, new in box, (handwritten) serial #
47y791.
Yours for shipping from zip 43211, or it goes to the trash.
ja ne!
Bob
>BTW, does anyone know if there's an internal adjustment to brighten these
>up? It seems that a lot of the surviving NeXT mono screens have gone quite
>dim.
>
>Thanks,
>Arlen Michaels
I believe that there *is* a pot inside that can brighten the monitor,
but I also believe that this is a common and well-known (at least on
the NeXT news groups) problem with the original monitors: they
eventually get very dim--more or less too dim to use. This happens, I
seem to remember, after only about 5,000 hours or so. It is a function
of the phosphor, it is not prevented by dimming the monitor, and it was
rectified in later versions of the monitor. (The details behind all of
that information escape me. I suspect you could post a request at
comp.sys.next.hardware, and you'd get a reply from someone who knows it
all right off the top of his or her head.)
Good luck!
PB Schechter
Hi,
Seen on another list...
The HP 3000/922 is a PA-RISC system, running MPE/iX. It isn't supported
by the PuffinGroup port of Linux. Just the computer is about the size
of a 2-drawer file cabinet.
------- Forwarded message follows -------
Subject: [HP3000-L] HP3000 Equipment
From: Dave Frandrup <dfrandrup(a)CO.BARRON.WI.US>
Barron County has an old HP3000/922RX with one 571MB Disk Drive and three
670MB Disk Drives and 48MB memory. Two 2563 line printers and one 2564
line printer. If interested in any or all of the equipment, please call
Dave Frandrup (715) 537-6314 or email davef(a)co.barron.wi.us.
Dave Frandrup
Dir Technology Mgmt Ctr
Barron, WI 54812
------- End of forwarded message -------Stan Sieler
sieler(a)allegro.com
www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.htmlwww.allegro.com/sieler
Since there are a few people into the NeXT machines on here,
I wanted to offer this here. I've got an extra N4000A monochrome
monitor that I wish to get rid of...and it's FREE! The only problem
with it is that it is dim. Otherwise it works great. I've got
another N4000A and a N4001, so don't need this additional monitor.
Drop me a line if interested. It's just outside of Washington D.C.
I'd hate to just dispose of it if nobody wants it but I don't have
room enough for all the machines I want, much less extra monitors for
all of them.
Jeff
--
Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File
http://www.cchaven.comhttp://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757
Indeed, the 68000 and 68010 pushed the same amount of data onto the stack,
but the 68010 produced more different types of stack-frames than the 68000.
If you wanted to speed up the ATARI-ST you could replace the 68000 with an
68010, but you needed to patch TOS. Otherwise the O.S. crashed.
Nice was the fact that the 68000 and the 68010 are *pin-compatible*.
I know, because my StarShip first ran on a 6802, then a 68000 and then on
a 68010. I had to re-write a small part of the embedded OS that handles the
stack-frame processing. Tight-loops (2 instruction) are cached.
[My StarShip runs on a 68020 at 30 MHz. now]
- Henk.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ethan Dicks [mailto:erd_6502@yahoo.com]
> Sent: dinsdag 15 januari 2002 21:20
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: 68010 (was Re: Mac IIci)
>
>
>
> --- Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 14, 14:56, Bruce Robertson wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, I seem to remember that with the 68000, there was an
> interaction
> > > with the Bus Fault signal... something to do with what
> state got saved
> > > on the stack; I don't remember the exact details
>
> After a bus fault, there was not enough information on the stack to
> properly do an instruction restart from where the bus-fault occured.
>
> > Oops, I forgot about that. You're right; the 68010 saves
> slightly more
> > state on the stack than the early 68000. I have a feeling
> that was fixed
> > in later 68000; some traps save more state than others.
>
> Not as far as I know... the quantity of bytes pushed on the
> stack should
> be constant for a given member of the 68K family. A lot of
> older software
> for the Amiga that did things with the stack (debugging
> tools, mostly)
> assumed certain things relating to the stack - it became confused on
> the '010 and up because the number of bytes did change for certain
> traps (like bus error). I have the details at home, not with
> me, in my
> Motorola books, or I'd post them here. Eventually, people learned to
> ask the OS what was going on, rather than paw through the stack
> indescriminantly, kinda like when people got burned on the
> first Fatter
> Agnus Amigas - 1Mb of CHIP and 0Mb of FAST RAM - broke all kinds of
> software that asked for a buffer of FAST RAM instead of
> "fastest available
> RAM".
>
> > You can't get 68010s any more, unless you can find old
> stock somewhere
> > :-(
> > You can still get 68000s and 68020s.
>
> That's not surprising. Even when they were current, we had a
> hard time
> getting 68010 chips for our products. We paid $45 each for them at a
> time when the 68000P8 was about $3 (eventually, I found them at a
> surplus/overstock electronics dealer for $10).
>
> At the moment, I have dozens of 68000L8s and one tube of 68010P10s. I
> hope I never have to look for any more 68010s.
>
> -ethan
>
>
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Is anybody able or willing to help them?
Where does Qatar stand in current politics? (what do they want to do with
that disk???)
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 18:49:20 +0300
From: MICROSERVE <microgrp(a)qatar.net.qa>
To: info(a)xenosoft.com
Subject: Please Help
Dear Sir,
I have very important 8" Floppy Disk and I need to make 20 copies
Duplicate the floppy have very
Old System used in Alpha LSI Naked Mini (4/90) Manufacture by Computer
Automation in 1976
And this system used for Training Shooting Range
Please inform me if possible for any cost?
Best regards,
Adnan Khanfer
MICROSERE
Doha - Qatar,
Po Box 22904
Tel: + 974 4438779 - 4438767
Fax: + 974 4438710
Email: microgrp(a)qatar.net.qa
Dave --
I appreciate you're coveting... but the system's not
mine to give. It belongs to CSC, and was left-over
>from our Y2K group. They had just stuck it in a closet
and forgotten it. As the resident UNIX guru at the
time it was on my inventory. When I moved out into the
field I claimed it as a workstation. Since nobody knew
it existed, and since it was way past the 3-year
depreciation cycle, there weren't any objections.
Unforunately CSC doesn't allow for any internal
purchasing because of liability issues. So I couldn't
buy it off them.
I too would like to get a hold of a board. The system
here at the office is the 591. That's the earlier
board design. There are three different versions. I'd
love to get a hold of an MCA board like this one
because I have equivalent RS6000 hardware in my
private collection. I could easily host such a thing.
The later boards are, I believe, PCI, and in two
differnt versions. I've never seen the board appear on
auction sites -- and I'm worried that anyone who did
have one, might not know it, since it just sits in
otherwise ordinary gear. The best I can tell you is
watch out for specific models of hardware and hassle
the seller to see if they omitted the board. The
models are the PC330 and PC500 intel systems. And in
RS6000 they've used F50, 591 and a few 390 systems.
>From what I've learned so far -- you won't hear much
about these systems in the open systems community. If
you go trolling through vendor and support
organization sites, stick to the mainframe folks. I'm
afraid that's as much of a brain dump as I've got on
sourcing these boards. If you do find a source, please
pass the information on. I'd love to add one to my
collection. Until then I'll have to deal with
Hercules. Not that this is a bad thing. Hercules on a
decent piece of hardware is considerably faster then a
P390 board. The one I've got is all of 72mHz clock
speed and 128MB RAM. You could build a much more
substantial LINUX based system to host a mainframe
operating system.
Best wishes,
Colin Eby
Senior Consultant
CSC Consulting
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Eric Chomko <vze2wsvr(a)verizon.net> wrote:
> It is an ISA-16 card. It has a 68000, w/2 27128 EEPROMs, 16 1259-15
> RAM chips and Intel chips, 82586 and 8253-5. The rest looks to be
> TTL, a couple of connectors and couple of crystals, 16 and 20 MHz.
> It was made by Bridge Communications, USA, in 1987. And it has a
> D-shell 15 pin (like a Mac video -2 rows of pins) female connector
> on the back.
Intel 82586 is an Ethernet controller, DA15S is the right connector
for an Ethernet transceiver, and Bridge Communications got bought by
3Com in 1987. I think you've got an intelligent Ethernet interface of
some sort.
-Frank McConnell
On Jan 15, 22:54, Tony Duell wrote:
> > >Read that as 2SB1243 -- which is not in 'Towers International
Transistor
> > >Selector'. Can you check that number, please. In fact, please post all
> > >markings on the original transistors.
> >
> > I thought I did, unless there are more markings on the side against the
PC
> > board? I'll look again.
>
> Peter has already posted some info on this transistor. My 'Towers',
> normally a good reference for obscure transistors, has let me down... OK,
> it's not a particularly recent edition...
Towers is excellent, and I'd not be without my well-thumbed copy. I
suppose I should buy a newer one some day. However, it seems like every
time someone in Japan or other some other parts of the Far east designs a
circuit, they design or specify a new transistor for it -- a transistor
that is almost identical to some existing device, but has with some minor,
often trivial, tweak. I suppose it may save some corporation a fraction of
a yen on each of hundreds of thousands of units. Or perhaps the way it
works is that a designer says "I need a transistor with the following
parameters..." and someone makes a batch to order rather than using an
existing design (for which they have no stock, because of just-in-time
stocking) and the made-to-order gets a unique number, more like a batch
number than a type number.
That's why I bought the Japanese manuals (there's one for FETs and one for
diodes as well as the transistor one), and more particularly, why I posted
the main operating parameters. There are probably dozens of relatively
common types that could be used as substitutes for a 2SB1243. If you need
one, it's just a question of looking in your favourite sales catalogue and
going down the list until you see something close enough.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Help!
I just moved from West Haven to Hamden, but my SNET ADSL service
didn't, err, can't.
SO....
I have the ADSL equipment for sale: Efficient Networks (?)
SpeedStream ADSL modem, and a filter/splitter that connects at the phone
block in your basement! No need for filters at each phone...
I would prefer to trade for a cable modem setup, (Comcast cable
service); but won't turn down cash either ;-)
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--- Norm Aleks <norm(a)docnorm.com> wrote:
> Hi, Colin. I'm trying to get a more-current MVS to
> experiment with on
> Hercules. Is that what you found, or was it just
> the AIX? Was it on
> p390.ibm.com?
Norm --
You're right about the site. It's ftp://p390.ibm.com.
The site covers all the multi-platform systems, and
not just the AIX variant. And what I was after were
the "support files". In other words the IO channel
drivers. IBM doesn't publish iso's for the Application
Development MVS there. And I'm guessing mine is as old
as yours -- Jan 1997. For me, as a mainframe newbie
crossing over from open systems, the version's
irrelevant. But good luck locating images.
Thanks,
Colin Eby
Senior Consultant
CSC Consulting
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Sorry, a little overwhelmed by all this at the moment; will get back to ya.
Ethan, AIM65 stuff is ready to go.
John, still waiting to hear what you need for the Cromemcos.
Will be off 'Net till Monday.
mike
---------------Original Message-----------------
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:32:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Punch cards, punch & mag tapes (Toronto)
- --- "John R. Keys Jr." <jrkeys(a)concentric.net> wrote:
> Has anyone claimed these yet ? If not I will take them.
I tried to. Haven't heard back. Don't know who the lucky winner is,
but I suspect several people expressed interest.
- -ethan
Uhh, what? I sell stuff on eBay all the time, and I love it dearly.
I think you're thinking of someone else. I've been the [perhaps lone]
person *defending* eBay through many of those flame wars.
When I'm being an "outspoken critic", it's usually about "suits" and
how they've ruined my industry and are working on destroying society.
Or about Microsoft and their crappy products that everyone seems to
think are so great. Never eBay though, because I *like* it. :-)
-Dave
On January 16, Ian Koller wrote:
>
>
>
> Is this going to be another one of those ridiculously
> overpriced eBay items you are such a regular outspoken
> critic of? Or is this one different, because it's you
> selling this time?
>
>
>
> Dave McGuire wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks. Sorry for the off-topic crosspost, but I figure there
> > might be some interest here.
> >
> > I have a Metcal model PHAP-01 hot-air soldering system here, in
> > near-mint condition, that I'd like to sell. I figure I'd mention it
> > here before going to eBay. I'm looking to get maybe $350-400 for it.
> > Anyone interested?
> >
> > -Dave
> >
> > --
> > Dave McGuire
> > St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
>
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
Hi folks. Sorry for the off-topic crosspost, but I figure there
might be some interest here.
I have a Metcal model PHAP-01 hot-air soldering system here, in
near-mint condition, that I'd like to sell. I figure I'd mention it
here before going to eBay. I'm looking to get maybe $350-400 for it.
Anyone interested?
-Dave
--
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St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
Ok, it's not quite on topic, but It's very funny...
http://www.pueyrredon.com.ar/irix.htm
Regards,
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
>DVD-ROM drives are cheap these days, and many of them allow you to
>change the region at least once. I've been tempted to buy one or two
>extras and set each one to a different region...
Humm... thats an idea. Get two $40 DVD-Rom drives, set one to Region 1
and one to Region 2, install them both, and just use the right one for a
given movie (most video cards will decode both PAL and NTSC, and usually
do a far better job than a cheap external converter will).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>TRON was a Big project, costing over $18 million
Man how times change... $18m for a movie... that might just cover Jeff
Bridges pay these days.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>