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RT 6150 Lives! (Long!)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Doc Shipley [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] > I was able to find archived images of AIX v2.2.1 (which, > interestingly > enough, I may be able to use *legally*. IBM permits their AIX > instructors to run AIX on personal machines for private/non-commercial > machines. I'm NOT gonna call Mr. Wolden and ask....) The archive > includes VRM, BOS and Extended Utilities, all IBM's updates & patches, > the NFS add-ons, man pages (IBM *still* provides the man pages as a > separate product!), TCP/IP, and some GNU stuff. And the all-important > Diags disk set. Any idea what the version overlap (if any) is between RT and RS/6000? In other words, are there any versions that would boot on either machine? This is just curiosity for now. > every IBM I've > ever worked on required the ritual blood sacrifice before booting. Most machines require that occasionally. > You need a "dumb" ISA IDE/floppy controller. It must be set to > secondary IDE and primary floppy. Any serial/parallel/game ports will > probably have to be disabled. The RT will boot from a secondary IDE Heh. :) Maybe for a project you could get the game ports working? ;) > Still to do: > Find vi. I haven't installed the Extended set yet. Please > Gods don't > make me use ed. Until I read that, I was going to suggest that you could just use ed. > Yee-Haw. I now have AIX v2.2.1, toys, tools & updates, on 5.25 > floppy! Congratulations. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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BBC Master keyboard

by CLeyson＠aol.com

Many thanks for the helpful comments from Pete, Tony and Adrian. Lucky for me I discovered that the terminal pins unscrew. ALL of the keyswitch terminal pins have be cleaned with a mild abrasive (Brasso) and then washed in IPA. I had to remove all of the switches to clean the rust from the frame, but what the hell, they're back to original condition. BTW I don't have any WD40 and would never ever use it on any electrical or mechanical parts - never ever ! Also, as the leaf springs in the key switches are gold plated I've left them 'as is' and not used any propriety "switch cleaners". They should work for another 15 years :-) Also, fixed the intermittent dry joint in the PSU and added the composite video colour mod. Found the last one on the Acorn FTP site http://acorn.riscos.com/documents/appnotes/ This was one of my better buys from Ebay. My only complaint is the tatty case - I will have to think about "re-boxing" it. Perhaps in a 1U 19in case, it will make the connectors a little more accessible and support the weight of the Cumana dual disk drives ! Thanks for the help Chris Chris

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Non-profit reselling

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 25, Ian Koller wrote: > Sellam, > > Or is it Sam? > > http://www.classiccmp.org/mail-archive/classiccmp/1998-05/0760.html > > Do you for a minute think I give a shit about what you want > or what you think? Wake up and smell the coffee pal. I actually > consider it a serious possibility your vcf is a front for your > business, and you are just running a scam. So piss the fuck off > asshole. I can FEEL the love around here. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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E-bay sniping.

by vze2mnvr＠verizon.net

Joe, After reading your three messages, it seems you also see the disparity. There is one point that the author of that page about sniping did not seem to consider. If auctions did automatically extend, but in each extension period, the minimum increment doubled, it could autoextend, yet still come to an end fairly quickly. Because of the sniping issue, I feel that eBay can't really be held as a true measure of the value of things. Only in auctions that had a chance to "settle" at the highest price someone was willing to pay for something, would it be valid measurement tool, of that aspect only of an overall market system, also keeping in mind the terms, i.e. untested, "as-is", tested, guaranteed, etc. The on-line auctions run by the GSA use a proxy bidding system, and also have an autoextend feature. Bear in mind that their prices are not a true measure of actual value either, because some of what they sell is broken damaged stuff, and you don't know what is what until you've bought it. They also don't entertain complaints. Joe wrote: > > Ian, > > I don't like sniping but I understand why it's done. Good info, I'm > keeping a permanent copy of it. > > Joe > > At 01:28 PM 1/25/02 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > >Hello Pat, > > > > If you read these links, it gives other "perspectives" on > >the issue of sniping. I guess you don't like sniping, because > >you would like to get the best price you could for your items. > >This we do respect. > > > > > >http://www.geocities.com/phillipcreed/myths.html > > > >http://www.geocities.com/phillipcreed/ > > > >http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/supersniper/ > > > > > > But the ones who complain that they didn't win an item because > >someone sniped them, we have no respect for what so ever. No one > >ever lost an item because someone out bid them. They lost the item > >because they didn't bid the high bid utilizing the "proxy" bidding > >system. Period. These are people that want to blame others for their > >own failures which they themselves brought about. They seem to act > >like the world owes them something, when in reality, their failure > >is brought on because they are too cheap and selfish. They want what > >other people have, but are unwilling to give much of themselves to > >get it. > > > > A note to all. You'll win whatever item you bid on, if you put > >in the high bid while the auction is running, regardless of when > >that bid is placed. > > > > > > As for the ones that complain about prices of goods being > >sold on eBay as being so high, these people have been deemed > >unsuitable for employment in our organization for being too > >ignorant of commerce and economics. It's indicative of serious > >flaws in personality, attitude, and intelligence. Generally > >things on eBay often sell for a third to an eighth ( and > >sometimes even 1/25 ) of what they are actually worth, and > >we have hard data to prove that fact. So any that end up out > >of work, just know, we'll learn more about what you're really > >like by reading the messages you've posted, than we'd ever learn > >in an interview. And we do research prospective applicants > >in this manner. Thanks Google. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Pat Barron wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Ian Koller wrote: > >> > I looked at it, then checked your "me" page, then gave up. > >> > > >> > If you want auctions that automatically extend, you have > >> > that option as a seller on Yahoo. > >> > >> I'm sorry that put you off; I've been thinking about toning down or > >> eliminating that section, but I haven't done anything about it yet because > >> this is a really sore point with me - it's particularly aimed at people > >> who run "outbid-bots", that track auctions and place bids in (literally) > >> the final 15 or 30 seconds of the auction, to ensure that the previous > >> high bidder has no chance to rebid. > >> > >> In a "real" auction, the auction generally continues until activity > >> ceases; if that's doable on Yahoo! Auctions (like the old Onsale.com > >> system, in which a bid in the last 5 minutes of an auction automatically > >> extended it), then that might be a better option for me. Though I haven't > >> listed anything there for a long time, because I've had the impression > >> that very few people use Yahoo! Auctions (as opposed to eBay).... > >> > >> Thanks, > >> --Pat. > >

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RT 6150 Lives! (Long!)

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Meanwhile, back at the ranch.... The IBM RT I was given last weekend turned out to be configured with: Enhanced Advanced 032 processor, which is hardwired with 16MB of RAM. No Advanced Floating-Point Accelerator, drat it all. Extended Monochrome Display adapter (1024x768) w/6155 mono display Ungerman-Bass Baseband [ethernet] adapter Streaming Tape Drive Adapter - RT interface for 6157 1/4 tape drive No tape drive or cable 1 5.25" DSHD floppy drive 3 E70 70MB ESDI hard disks - 2 dead as dirt. 1 SIIG 8-bit Serial/Parallel adapter, c.1998, which prevents booting Keyboard I was able to find archived images of AIX v2.2.1 (which, interestingly enough, I may be able to use *legally*. IBM permits their AIX instructors to run AIX on personal machines for private/non-commercial machines. I'm NOT gonna call Mr. Wolden and ask....) The archive includes VRM, BOS and Extended Utilities, all IBM's updates & patches, the NFS add-ons, man pages (IBM *still* provides the man pages as a separate product!), TCP/IP, and some GNU stuff. And the all-important Diags disk set. NOTE: If you ever have to work on an IBM workstation, as soon as you get the case open, get a paper clip, solder pick, fountain pen, or other not-very-sharp object, and gouge a couple of knuckles with it. Bleeding directly onto the machine is not necessary, but every IBM I've ever worked on required the ritual blood sacrifice before booting. The machine booted to the Diags just fine, after I pulled the serial adapter. There I discovered that the keyboard has several dead keys (well, two, but the Escape key counts triple), that the RT wants <Ctrl>+<Alt>+<Pause> to reboot, and that the display must be powered up before the computer. Everything but the 2 dead E70 drives and the keyboard checked out. There are numerous refernces to the use of IDE drives in the RT newsgroup. Although AIX actually will install in 70MB, it leaves little room to play in. Plus, that one E70 alone was warming my house and whining loudly enough to make my cats cry. Final verdict: they're right, but I saw some glitches I haven't seen documented. You need a "dumb" ISA IDE/floppy controller. It must be set to secondary IDE and primary floppy. Any serial/parallel/game ports will probably have to be disabled. The RT will boot from a secondary IDE controller, if you satisfy the drive specs. On mine, even aftetr removing the ESDI controller, setting the IDE card to primary causes the machine to freeze on boot. Drive specs: A Seagate Medalist IDE drive. Period. Some posts suggest that small Quantum or Conner drives will work, but not boot. The WD, Quantum, and Maxtor drives I tried weren't detected at all. The Conner 340MB was detected and passed, but I haven't tried booting it. The Seagate ST3250A Medalist is booting quite nicely as hd(1,0). I did try an ST32122A 2G, and it installed OK and booted fine once. After that, it drops into maintenance mode on boot, with unrecoverable errors. Mount claims that the filesystem devices don't exist. I'm not convinced that wasn't due to operator error during install. Still to do: Find vi. I haven't installed the Extended set yet. Please Gods don't make me use ed. Set up TCP/IP networking. Just got the TCP/IP set installed last night, and configuration is waiting on vi. I hope. I've been offered a copy of 4.4BSD/Romp for it, which I may try out. I'd like to try AOS, but I can't find the full distribution, just the tools, updates, and diagnostic utilities. Find a mouse. Suck it up, gird my loins, and try repairing the keyboard. I may try using stty to remap the dead keys till I have a backup kbd. Yee-Haw. I now have AIX v2.2.1, toys, tools & updates, on 5.25 floppy! Doc

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Friday's score... [kinda long?]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Well, for those curious, and those whom I said I would inform, here is a list of (100lbs!) Commodore 128 and Atari 800 goodies I got courtesy of Michael Brodt... (This list is for my own inventory purpose, as much as your entertainment.) Commodore 128 --- - 1571 floppy drive - Wico Command Control bat handle joystick - TV connector/adaptor. Atari 800 --- (there's " #043 " rubber-stamped on the model sticker, above the printed No. 472297 Any ideas? Also a sticker with a handwritten "AW458710 1/28") - Atari810 floppy drive - 4 joysticks (one missing the 'stick'. Hey, the Commodore joystick will work on this, won't it?)You know, it would be real easy to turn the busted one into a gamepad, wouldn't it? - Microbits Peripheral Products Parallel Printer interface And software/books/magazines are: (game names are writen exactly as seen on the label. Maybe Michael or someone can say what the misspellings are supposed to be...) *** C=128 *** (this list coming soon...) *** Atari 800 *** ---originals s/w diskettes--- Shamus Case II No:4705 Canyon Climber The Goonies (it has C=64 version on side 2!) with hints... Drelbs No:101210 Alternate Reality: The Dungeon Alternate Reality: The City Atari 810 Master Diskette II Atari 400/800 BASIC cartridge CXL 4002 (priced at $59.95!) Karateka The Incredible Laboratory Realm Of Impossibility Cyclod ---copies--- Starwars Frogger Pogoman Caverns Actionquest (?) Pacman Krazy Defender Galaxian Raiders Miscom (?) Speedway Poype (misspelling on label?) Joust Donkey Kong Nautilis Caverns 2 Montezuma Snokie Sargon Congo Spy Hunter Tutunkahmun Archon Zepplin Slime Mario Brothers Dig Dug Cyclod Spy Huntrcom (?) Spy Sutle (?) War Games Decathlon Starfighter PitFall II Legion Koalapad Jumpman Centioede Wiz Of War Koalapad MTV Zaxxon Zork I (on Cyclod disk-- DigDug Spyhuntrcom Spshutle War Games Decathlon StarFighter PitFall II Legion AtariWriter Krazy Defender Galaxian Raiders Miscom Anticks Centipede --- books --- The Video Master's Guide To Defender -(arcade version) Basic Fun With Graphics The Atari Way AD&D Eye Of The Beholder Clue Book Free Software For your Atari Dr. C Wacko's Miracle Guide To Designing And Programming Your Own Atari Computer Arcade Games Atari Basic - A Self Teaching Guide Atari Games And Recreations Atari Basic Quick Reference Guide Your First Atari Program Atari Sound And Graphics - A Self Teaching Guide Owner's Guide for the 800 and 810 Atari 810 Disk Drive - Introduction To he Disk Operating System Computers For Kids - Atari Edition AtariWriter manual Star Raiders manual Review - A Catalog Of Atari Learning Systems - Fall 83, Vol 1, Issue 1 Antic - The Atari Resource - Feb 1988 Vol 6, #10 Analog Computing - Sep 1987, #57 Atari Explorer - Feb 1985 Atari Connection - The Home Computer Magazine - Summer 1983 Atari Connection - Winter 1984 Atari Connection - Spring 1984 Atari Connection - Summer 1984 APX - Atari Program Exchange Product Catalog - Summer 1983 APX - Fall 1983 Home Applications And Games For The Atari Home Computers Atari 400/800 Basic Reference Manual Atari 400/800 Disk Operating System II Reference Manual --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

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Bell & Howell Apple II update

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>My little U-matic portable (The front says JVC, the service manual says >Hitachi...) has SO239 socket ('UHF') for the composite video input and >output. It's a 625 line PAL machine, of course -- I have no idea what the >NTSC version uses.... My UMatic experience is really limited to just Panasonic and Sony units (dating from mid-late 70's thru my newest Sony is maybe 10 years old now). But interestingly... I was wrong... I HAVE seen the "UHF" connector for composite. I had completely forgotten about the old closed circuit video system I pulled out when I started working at my current job. They had 3 black and white security cameras that used that connector. I know they were composite video, because I remember using an RCA adaptor, and connecting one to a VCR's video line in shortly after pulling them out of service. So yeah... I have actually seen that setup, I had just forgotten about it, as it might have been the only place I have seen that (but also, 90% of my AV experience is from mid 80's to mid-late 90's, so most of what I was exposed to is the "current standards" connectors). That's why I disclaimed that I wasn't saying it didn't exist... just that I hadn't seen it (I have also learned in A/V, if there is a connector out there, odds are, someone, at sometime, used it in their setup) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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BBC Master keyboard

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 25, 10:10, Adrian Graham wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > > Sent: 24 January 2002 23:33 > > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > Subject: Re: BBC Master keyboard > > > > Normally such keyswitches come apart. I am not sure just what type is > > used on the Beeb, but if they have round terminal pins then > > When I was key swapping to get a complete Master keyboard using a scrap > machine I noticed the keyswitches were glued together and not clipped. I > wanted to just swap over the plungers but had to swap over the whole switch > instead. They're different keyswitches. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] > Well, I also collect various printers, monitors, and terminals. I'm > weird. But boring as they are, it's all part of the record, and needs > preserving. Monitors and terminals are a necessity. Printers aren't. That doesn't mean that I won't have printers, but they need to be more impressive. I have a Genicom, for instance, which I've kept due to its unique ability to survive the direct impact of a locomotive. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Bell & Howell Apple II update

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > > I have a 50-75 ohm converter, I believe. I'll need to dig it up. > No, you don't need it (or want it). The monitor's input > impedance will be > 75 ohms as well (it's a standard for composite video). So all > you need is > a piece of 75 ohm cable, a 75 ohm BNC plug for the computer end and > whatever plug fits your monitor's input... Oops. :) I see now. Thanks. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Free software & AT&T 6300+ Docs

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

More office cleaning. Most of the software disks are in unopened packages. Free for postage from Chicago: 1 copy Borland Brief ("The Programmer's Editor"), MS-DOS, Disks & Docs, 3 pounds 1 copy Borland Brief ("The Programmer's Editor"), OS/2, Disks & Docs, 3 pounds (The original packages had both MS-DOS and OS/2 disks. I found 1 set of disks and 2 sets of docs, so I'm making one OS/2 package and one MS-DOS package). 2 copies Borland Quatro Pro 1.0 SE, MS-DOS, Disks & Docs, 3 pounds @ 1 copy WordPerfect 5.2 for Windows, Docs & disks, 8 pounds 1 copy Code Warrior Starter Kit 7, Mac w/68020 & System 7.1, 2 CD's, 1 pound AT&T 6300 Plus (80286 CPU) Docs & Disks (13 pounds in all): MS-DOS User's Guide (sorry, no disks) Getting Started (w/Tutorial, Mouse & Customer Diagnostic disks) Hardware Reference Manual (w/lots of motherboard logic diagrams) Service Manual (w/System Diagnostics disk) Please reply off-list to robert_feldman(a)jdedwards.com. FIFO.

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WTH is this?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Does anyone have any idea what this card is for? <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/mds-80/analog-d.jpg> When I picked it up I thought it was a Multibus card but a closer look reveals that it's (1) too tall, (2) too narrow, (3) The large connector at the bottom has 100 contacts instead of 86, (4) the narrow connector has 40 pins instead of 60 and it sticks down too far. Any ideas? Joe

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WTH is this?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

The rectangular boxes are relays, look like mercury wetted contact relays. The Bus is some sort of lab instrumentation and control. I am not sure what it is called. It is familiar with me too. I have seen quite a few similar cards in the past. Paxton Astoria, OR PS Nice to see you back. Nice MDS you got. What cards?

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I'm Baack!

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> I guess I only thought I'd get out of this hobby. Last week I got this > <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/mds-80/picture.jpg> in the mail. This is from > a deal that I've had working for over a year. I've got it running and it > works nice! My condolences, and here I thought you were going to be an insperation to us all and prove that it is possible to recover from the classic computer addiction! :^( I guess it just goes to prove everyone here is doomed ! Welcome back :^) Zane

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2 BMC CP/M Computers available

by celt＠chisp.net

Got this via email. Contact him at Excel1Star(a)cs.com if you can take them off his hands: >Hi, I have 2 BMC computers from the early 80's. They operate on CPM. >They >were neat in their day (still are). Two different models -- if-800 >based on 5 >inch floppy (has light pen, function keys, integrated printer) and the >other >one based on 8 inch floppy. I have FORTRAN compiler, SUPERCALC and some >other >software. I have boxes of CPM books. And some media too. >Would like to find a good home for them. I would like to make a tax >deductible contribution. Thanks Al Mike Tarnover - The Apple II Repository http://tarnover.org

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IBM 3101 Dip Switches Configuration

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

I have the "IBM 3101 Display Terminal Description" document. It's about 1/2" thick and has the technical specs, functional description, setup and configuration, interface wiring diagrams (not schematics), character maps, etc... Normally, I'd offer it for free but since I'm recently umemployed, the new owner will have to buy me breakfast. $5.00 and it's yours! If anyone wants it, contact me off list. SteveRob >From: Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> >Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: IBM 3101 Dip Switches Configuration >Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 22:30:36 -0600 (CST) > >On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Dave McGuire wrote: > > > On January 24, Doc wrote: > > > If by "normal serial cable" you mean a standard port-to-modem cable, > > > that is most likely your problem. You need to use a null-modem serial > > > cable with a terminal. > > > > That depends *completely* on the terminal. Several even have both > > DTE- and DCE-wired connectors. > > Oops. My mistake. I should have said "You need to use a null-modem >serial cable with an unmodified IBM 3101 terminal" > > Doc > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey S. Sharp [mailto:jss@subatomix.com] > Lawrence LeMay said: > > Cmon, what could possibly be less valuable than an Apple ][+? A C64 > > perhaps... > Old printer ribbons. The United States government. :) (Ok, that was off topic) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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BBC Master keyboard

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > Sent: 24 January 2002 23:33 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: BBC Master keyboard > > Normally such keyswitches come apart. I am not sure just what type is > used on the Beeb, but if they have round terminal pins then When I was key swapping to get a complete Master keyboard using a scrap machine I noticed the keyswitches were glued together and not clipped. I wanted to just swap over the plungers but had to swap over the whole switch instead. a

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I need PDP-11/34A Help Again (Suprise Suprise)

by Andreas.Freiherr＠Vishay.com

Owen, still interested in getting your PDP-11/34 to work? - I am just about to reassemble mine after relocation. RUN light off and display 000002 means the processor halted at memory location 2, so it has probably executed a HALT instruction (opcode 000000) from location 0. Try this: while holding the CNTRL button, press BOOT. This should launch the program from your ROM. Depending on which type you have (look for modules labeled M9301 or M9312 in slot 3 or 4, whatever is next to the processor), your milage may vary here. The console terminal should print four numbers in octal, followed by an "@" or a "$" as a prompt in a new line ("Dave, my mind is going..."). Depending on the ROM, you may need to enter either 773000G (standard start address and GO command, pressing the return key is _not_ required here) or a two-letter device code to boot. The bootstrap module may also be wired to boot from a predetermined device without asking. BTW: The DL11-W has 20mA drivers as well as RS-232. (Note the "1488" and "1489" chips being present as well as a number of transistors and other discrete components.) Which set is used depends on the cable: the plug will have some wire connections to code it for either 20mA current loop or RS-232 / V.24. If you have the original cable with the usual DB-25 connector, it should be OK: current loop used a completely different 6-pin "Mate-n-Lock" connector. For the settings at the terminal, I don't know your particular type, but with most DEC lines you should be best prepared if you use XON/XOFF handshake (for "Main Rcv Hndsk" / "Main Xmt Hdsk"). Since at PDP-11 times, the 8th bit was commonly used as a parity bit, set your terminal to ignore this. Otherwise, you may get garbage characters instead of about every second readable character. We may get this straight later, when we know what operating system you have. A RS-232 break signal can sometimes cause a PDP-11 to HALT (depending on settings on the DL11-W board), so you may want to avoid this... (perhaps by choosing an appropriate setting for the "Disconnect" option for now?) So much from memory. If you need more details, let me know, and I'll dig into the docs. Good luck, Andreas -- Andreas Freiherr Vishay Semiconductor GmbH, Heilbronn, Germany http://www.vishay.com

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Friday's score... [kinda long?]

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

At 02:05 PM 1/24/02 -0500, you wrote: >Alternate Reality: The Dungeon >Alternate Reality: The City You lucky Bastage, I loved those games

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OT: Pricing (was RE: Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook")

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

I've done price searches on the 'net for things I want to buy (an airbrush and a portable SW radio, in particular), and found prices ranging from about 50% MSRP to 125% MSRP. Wherever you go, it's still buyer beware (and be aware). Bob -----Original Message----- From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 2:43 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook" <snip> In no way limited to eBay. <snip> I do commonly see construction tools and guns in pawnshops and second-hand stores priced at 125-200% their NEW value. Mostly, it doesn't rot on the shelves, either. The point is, it's worth EXACTLY what gets paid for it. Doc, whose $0.05 is worth more....

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HP87XM

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 24, Wayne M. Smith wrote: > > Also...what are my mass storage options on this machine? It's got > > an HP-IB interface, and I've seen lots of HP-IB drives over the > > years...but what were commonly sold with this machine? > > You need to use drives following the AMIGO protocol. Here are the possibilities: ... > Many of these are regularly available on eBay and do not usually run much over $25. Excellent, Wayne...I will go and check. Thanks! -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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More DELLness & TRON! :D

by bpope＠wordstock.com

Y'all, I am sure you will all be happy to know the following... Dell fields Super Bowl deal Dell Computer announced that it has signed on to be the National Football League's official computer systems provider for the upcoming Super Bowl XXXVI. Dell also signed a deal to be the NFL's hardware supplier for the remainder of 2002. As part of the Super Bowl agreement, the company will provide on-site service and support for computer systems used in Super Bowl operations, which will include some 200 Dell desktops imported to New Orleans from league headquarters. And under the new Dell-NFL hardware agreement, the league will purchase 120 or more PowerEdge 2500 servers and a storage area network. Dell says it has had a sales relationship with the NFL since 1998. --John G. Spooner, ZDNet News And.... TRON Collectors Edition on DVD was released today!! :-D The coolest computer animation of the 80's! Cheers, Bryan Pope

23 years, 10 months

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NCD 88k xterm info anyone?

by claudew＠videotron.ca

Hello from mild and almost snowless Montreal... A recent find for $5. NCD 88k xterm, no keyboard, no ram, no monitor... Very little help on the web about this. I wanna try this out, I am not sure why... Anyways who knows the ram simms specs and where they go in this thing (unit came with no ram) I managed to get some "normal reaction" by putting a 1M simm in the inner most simm socket and 2 X 4M simms in the outter most sockets. I am saying "normal reaction" cause I have still not found a monitor that will produce stable output on this thing. I do see somekinda "unsync-ed" POST and looks like text appearing and scrolling on screen every approx 5 secs, imagine the term is looking to boot from somewhere... Who can tell me more about the video output specs? Looks like mono and my pinout seems ok 15,16,17 R,G,B and 26 TTL Vsync and 18 TTL Hsync from looking at it with a scope... Any help appreciated... Claude http://computer_collector.tripod.com

23 years, 10 months

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AT&T hardware

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Pat, Unless you have a need to control a bunch of 3270-emulating terminals, a 6544 isn't a terrible useful thing to have. It's basically a non-IBM version of a 3174, etc., which is a unit used to hook up many terminals to your 3270-protocol host computer, be it mainframe or minicomputer. I don't know what terminals the thing is meant for, since it beats me if AT&T's terminals support 3270, but they probably do, though I'd imagine it doesn't use coax.. Which, if that is true, might limit you to using AT&T terminals with it, which is kinda crappy.. Hope that helps some Will J _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

23 years, 10 months

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Mastersport 386SX

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Dave Mabry <dmabry(a)mich.com> Pardon the shorthand. I meant wall wart, or external power supply. I figured this would be obvious when asked in reference to a laptop, but, I've been wrong before ;>) > Sorry to be dense, but what is a "wart" in this context? > > Glen Goodwin wrote: > > > > Does anyone have the wart for this Zenith Data Systems laptop? > > > > Or the pinouts for the wart, even? > > > > TIA, > > > > Glen > > 0/0 > > -- > Dave Mabry dmabry(a)mich.com > Dossin Museum Underwater Research Team > NACD #2093

23 years, 10 months

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UofM Property Disposition

by root＠diablonet.net

Hi everyone! I went to the University of Michigan Property Dispotition warehouse today, and I've got a couple of questions and other related things to say. 1. To the couple of people who asked me about the NeXTDimension Cube that was there last month, my apologies, but someone else got to it before I could. 2. I saw a DEC pedestal cabinet there that looked exactly like a VAX 4000 series machine, but it was just labeled "R 4000". I'm assuming this was some sort of VAX, and there seems to have been a thread on the NetBSD/vax mailing list about it a while back, but since their mailing list archive server seems to be down at the moment, can anyone tell me more about this machine? I'm a bit curious as to what it is. 3. There was an interesting looking Evans & Sutherland computer there labeled as an ES-3. I popped the front cover off of it and it looked relatively sophisticated, but I didn't actually pull any boards and get a good look at them since they don't like people doing that sort of thing there at the warehouse. I read somewhere that this box runs UNIX and had some pretty nice graphics capabilities for its time. Does anyone know much about these (e.g. architechture, history, OS specifics, etc)? Does anyone know how they stacked up to SGIs of the era and similar competing machines? The thing's kind of heavy and transportation to and from the warehouse is pretty evil for me, but if its a really nifty machine, I'd like to save it (I've certainly never seen one before). Unfortunately there didn't seem to be any monitor, keyboard, or mouse included with it. Does anyone know any specifics about these either? Hmmm... other oddiments there that were kind of interesting included a dual 8" Data General floppy disk drive, an old SGI POWER SERIES Twin Tower machine, and probably some other stuff that I'm forgetting. Just thought I'd mention them in case someone lived in the area and was interested in taking a look. Kind regards, Sean Caron -- Sean Caron http://www.diablonet.net scaron(a)engin.umich.edu root(a)diablonet.net

23 years, 10 months

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Apple II boards

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>At the "top" of the spectrum, I got a IIc+ (4MHz CPU, modern serial >connectors (not like a IIc) Anyone have the pinouts for the IIc's modem port's DIN 5? I assume it is a stanard serial port, and that I can just build an adaptor cable for it, and connect it to a hayes modem or similar. Sound right? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 10 months

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Apple II boards

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>http://til.info.apple.com/tilarchive.nsf/artnum/n1419 or, if Apple is >still wanting to know a little too much to access it; I'm using a Mac.com account, so I already promised my first born to apple... so I can safely peruse their TIL at will (now, if I had only bothered to look first) Thanks! -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 10 months

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HP16C

by emu＠ecubics.com

Hi, anybody here has the manuals for it ? cheers & thanks

23 years, 10 months

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Not *ALL* printers are boring... For example, it would be nice to have a printer for my Honeywell... or my Wang.. or.. etc. You get the point. I'd have taken 'em without anything throw in Fred, if I didn't live multiple states away, heh. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

23 years, 10 months

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WTH is this?

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

It could also be a development tool of some sort for the largest device on the board, possibly... Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

23 years, 10 months

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Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I own this handbook, it certainly is not "lame"... Hard as hell to find much detailed Microdata info on the 'net.. Lame would be if he just threw it in the dumpster... Is placing a monetary value on goods lame? I don't think he got the handbook for free.. And I certainly paid more than what the opening bid of his is for mine.. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

23 years, 10 months

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Unisys manuals

by pat＠purdueriots.com

Going through the crap I have in the basement, I ran across a few manuals for an old Unisys unix box I used to have (until my parents moved, and left it behind). If anyone is interested, I'm asking $5 each + actual shipping cost. U5000/20/30/35/40/50 and /55 Systems U5000 Series Operating System -- Installation Guide UP-12693 Rev 1 -- Planning Guide UP-11768 Rev 3 -- Programming Guide UP-11221 -- Installation and Planning Guide UP-12694 Rev 1 -- User Reference Manual Volume 2 UP-11760 Rev 2 Those are all in binders, complete with the black case-thing to make them easy to stack on a book-shelf. All in good condition. Contact me off-list if interested. Thanks -- Pat

23 years, 10 months

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Mastersport 386SX

by dan＠ekoan.com

At 04:30 PM 1/24/02 -0600, you wrote: >This is because these are true power supplies and not a wall-wart. Indeed. >The later generation power supplies are very small >switching power supplies. The 91-56403, which came with my USB ZIP drive, is only 2" x 1.75" x 1" (compared to the 3.5" x 2.25" x 2" of the earliest model) and accepts anything >from 100 to 240 volts. There's even a serial number printed on it. If I were Tony I would already have taken it apart to confirm what's inside... Cheers, Dan

23 years, 10 months

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How much?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Julius Sridhar [mailto:vance@ikickass.org] > How much would you pay for a VAX 7000-650? As much as I could afford to blow on it at the time. I'd love to have a VAX 7000. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

23 years, 10 months

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UofM Property Disposition

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Actually, I know E&S did produce some computers at some point, I can't say I've ever been able to learn very much about them, but they are high-powered graphics computers of some sort, super expensive.. A while back there were a bunch of parts of them on Eoverpay... I think it ought to be rescued but thats just me. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

23 years, 10 months

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A different IBM 3101 question entirely...

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I have an 3101 as the console on one of my IBM minicomputers (8140C92), and I really would love to have the manual... Anyone have one they'd part with? Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

23 years, 10 months

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UofM Property Disposition

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> 2. I saw a DEC pedestal cabinet there that looked exactly like a VAX > 4000 series machine, but it was just labeled "R 4000". I'm assuming > this was some sort of VAX, and there seems to have been a thread on > the NetBSD/vax mailing list about it a while back, but since their > mailing list archive server seems to be down at the moment, can anyone > tell me more about this machine? I'm a bit curious as to what it > is. IIRC it's a DSSI Disk cabinet (might also have Q-Bus slots for Q-Bus expansion). Can't really get to mine to verify what the nameplate says (it's being used as a PDP-8/e stand and is crammed between a wall and and the Neo Geo cabinet). Zane

23 years, 10 months

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IBM 3151 terminals (Which keyboard?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

I've recently received a small pile of IBM 3151 terminals. All seem functional. I also have a pile of IBM keyboards, some of which look like they may fit the terminals. The two keyboard types of interest (IE the ones with modular plugs) are: A model "1397952" -- this one has an 8-wire modular plug. When plugged into one of the terminals, it will say something on the order of "PROBLEM IN KEYBOARD" A keyboard that's not clearly marked at all, but the longest identifier-looking number on the tag is 122RK33S(or 5)-30S(or 5)E-J. This has (I think) a 6-wire modular plug. It has a panel of dip switches near where the cord connects. When plugged in this one reports the (more interesting) error of "PROBLEM IN VIDEO ELEMENT OR KEYBOARD" (My guess it it's in the keyboard...) Both keyboards have 24 "function" keys, and a panel of odd keys to the left of the alpha section. So does anyone know what these particular keyboards actually go with? Can I maybe change the switch settings in the latter keyboard, and get it to work with these terminals? Does anyone know what the switches even do? Why don't the terminals report odd numeric errors? "PROBLEM IN KEYBOARD" is almost understandable ;) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

23 years, 10 months

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IBM 3101 Dip Switches Configuration

by spedraja＠ono.com

Hello. I have one IBM 3101 ascii terminal ready to be used connected with one serial cable to one Linux system that I have by the serial port 2. The inittab has uncommented the line referred to the ttyS1, and appears to be correct because one "ps -ef" shows the "/sbin/agetty ttyS1" line with the "[login]" comment. The problem is that the IBM 3101 don't establish communication with the Linux system. The 3101 show one "Line Check 2" message that talk about the comm.line, I suppose. The cable used is one normal serial cable. The 3101 has some dip switches in the upper of the keyboard. If they are taked, the Line Check 2 message dissapears and the screen is filled with "?" signs continuously. It's clear that some options can be configured with this method. Somebody has some more deep info about this terminal ? Must I use one special serial cable ? Thanks and Greetings Sergio

23 years, 10 months

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FreeVMS

by msell＠ontimesupport.com

I know I'm going to open up a can of worms on this post, but my curiosity is killing me.... Now that I have OpenVMS 6.1 running on my VAX 4000, I'm curious about the status of the various "FreeVMS" projects that are in progress (or so it would seem....). Are any of these projects really in active development? Which projects have the greatest potential for operation? I checked several sites related to "FreeVMS", which actually seems to be a common name for several different projects with different goals. I'd love to "cut my teeth" with kernel development after working with Linux for several years. I personally think it would be neat to have an accurate version of FreeVMS that would work on VAX, AXP, and i386 (gulp!). When I say accurate, I mean that FreeVMS would respond the same as VMS would for the various commands and peripherals. Some of you probably think it would be silly to take an i386 version of FreeVMS and port it "back" to VAX and AXP, but it would be a neat way to use FreeVMS, especially if the OpenVMS hobbyist program (or OpenVMS) were to go away. Nuts? Probably. Neat? Yes! Here are links to the various FreeVMS projects I have visited: http://www.panix.com/~kingdon/free-vms.html http://www.freevms.org/ http://www.djesys.com/vms/freevms/ - Matt Matthew Sell Programmer On Time Support, Inc. www.ontimesupport.com (281) 296-6066 Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST! http://www.ontimesupport.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...

23 years, 10 months

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BBC Master keyboard

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 24, 15:50, CLeyson(a)aol.com wrote: > Just got myself an old BBC for 6502 assembler. My problem is that > some of the key contacts need cleaning. My question is - > > Am I correct in thinking that all the keys need to unsoldered from the PCB, > and are the key contacts easy to get at and clean ? Whether you need to unsolder all the keyswitches depends on the keyboard -- there were 4 types, but only one -- fortunately the least common type -- needs much work. The best, and original, was the type using Futaba keyswitches, which have a white body. These are easy to remove, one at a time (desolder the connections, then release the clips which hold the keyswitch in the frame). I've seen a couple of pictures on the web showing the different types but I can't seem to find one right now :-( The normal way to fix faulty ones was to replace them. You can still sometimes find switches available from people who've dismantled machines. If not, I'd try removing the faulty keyswitches and cleaning them by swishing them in a small bowl of iso-propyl alcohol, or squirting IPA followed by switch cleaner through them. Finish with a good-quality low-residue switch cleaner. These are generally based on IPA with small amounts of very light oil (not usually silicone, as it creeps too much and gets into everything). Do not use anything like WD40! -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 10 months

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Mastersport 386SX

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Does anyone have the wart for this Zenith Data Systems laptop? Or the pinouts for the wart, even? TIA, Glen 0/0

23 years, 10 months

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HP 1631D logic analyzer help

by caribe＠candcsolution.com

Hello, I recently got an HP1631D logic analyzer and it won't remember the date or any of the internal settings. Is there a battery in it somewhere that I can replace to fix this? Thanks in advance for your replies! ~Caribe ========= Caribe Schreiber IT Engineer C&C Solutions, Inc 519 Russell Av N Mpls, MN 55405-1037 caribe(a)candcsolution.com Quote of the week: "The three levels of education explained: B.S. -Self-explanatory M.S. - More of the Same Ph.D. - Piled-higher and Deeper. -Anonymous"

23 years, 10 months

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/24/02 1:56:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, jss(a)subatomix.com writes: > > Cmon, what could possibly be less valuable than an Apple ][+? A C64 Proprinters

23 years, 10 months

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Bell & Howell Apple II update

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>I didn't work in the video industry, John, but I did work with computers all >the while. Monitors of the time, at least of the NTSC-compatible type, were >typically equipped with PL-259 connectors on the rear. The only video >monitors I encountered with BNC connectors on them were the high-frequency, >then-mono, types, from Motorola, intended for use as "page" monitors. I think it might have had more to do with what kind of single was being sent. (at least in the video industry) My old UMatic decks from the 70s have either "UHF" connectors (PL-259), or F connectors (depending on age) for all the modulated signals (connects to a TV shows on either channel 3/4 or 6), but all the ones that have composite signals (non-modulated, needs a "line in") have either BNC or RCA (depending on quality, doesn't seem to have bearing on age... higher quality decks have the BNC for video, RCA for audio, and lower quality have the RCA for video and audio). I don't think I have ever seen a "UHF" (PL-259) or F connector on a non modulated composite signal (not saying they don't exist, just I have never seen them), same with I don't think I have ever seen a BNC or RCA on a modulated signal. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 10 months

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Mastersport 386SX

by dan＠ekoan.com

At 02:12 PM 1/24/02 -0500, you wrote: >On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote: > > > Zip drives use one that is 5 VDC. Do they really need 5? > >IIRC, the Zip-Drive 'wall wart' is actually a complete regulated power >supply. So to operate the logic, it DOES need to be 5VDC. All of this is off-topic, but I've got three different types of Iomega ZIP drive "wall warts" here (all voltages unloaded, measured from my Fluke 8020A): 57DR-5-1500(A) outputs 5.21 volts DC 48DR-5-1000 outputs 5.11 VDC 91-56403 outputs 5.15 VDC Much closer to spec than most wall warts. Cheers, Dan

23 years, 10 months

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BBC Master keyboard

by CLeyson＠aol.com

In a message dated 24/01/02, pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com writes: > Whether you need to unsolder all the keyswitches depends on the keyboard -- > there were 4 types, but only one -- fortunately the least common type -- > needs much work. The best, and original, was the type using Futaba > keyswitches, which have a white body. These are easy to remove, one at a > time (desolder the connections, then release the clips which hold the > keyswitch in the frame). I've seen a couple of pictures on the web showing > the different types but I can't seem to find one right now :-( > > The normal way to fix faulty ones was to replace them. You can still > sometimes find switches available from people who've dismantled machines. > If not, I'd try removing the faulty keyswitches and cleaning them by > swishing them in a small bowl of iso-propyl alcohol, or squirting IPA > followed by switch cleaner through them. Finish with a good-quality > low-residue switch cleaner. These are generally based on IPA with small > amounts of very light oil (not usually silicone, as it creeps too much and > gets into everything). Do not use anything like WD40! >Pete Peter Turnbull > Network Manager > University of York Great, thanks for the advice Pete. Did a quick search with Goolge and found a few tips on BBC keyboard repair. It seems I have a type I keyboard with Futaba keyswitches fitted. They come out of the frame one at a time. After a bit of fiddling I discovered that the keyswitch body is held together by a small plastic clip and two screws. The terminal pins are the screws and can be removed by gently rotating with a pair of pliers. Terminal pins are silver plated and show signs of tarnishing on the faulty keyswitches. The contact leaf springs appear to be OK. A mild abrasive and some IPA should do the trick :-) Just wish I'd kept that Cherry keyboard form years ago with the Hall effect switches. Chris

23 years, 10 months

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QFP soldering

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: I am finally getting around to building the P112 Z180-based SBC from Dave Brooks (I got one of his last unpopulated boards). It has two 100-pin QFP chips (the Z180 and an SMC Super I/O chip), so, I bought the blade-like SMD soldering iron tip for my iron. So, here's the stupid question...how do I solder these things? Do I hold the iron parallel or perpendicular to the package leads? The board is pre-tinned, but I should I also tin the QFP leads? Any help appreciated. Rich

23 years, 10 months

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OT? Apple Stylewriter problems (PS progress)

by mtapley＠swri.edu

>From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) >Do these tap into the plastic of the case, or into brass inserts, or what? They go into pre-drilled cylindrical studs that extend from the back of the case (the side that doesn't plug into the wall) toward the front. There were matching cylindrical recess barrels from the front that extended toward the back and had holes in their circular bottoms large enough for the screw threads to pass through. Those barrels were what melted. >Are they machine screws, self-stripping screws (OK, self-tapping screws >:-))? If they're machine screws, they're likely to be metric sizes.... Self-stripping :-) which is what I'll therefore replace them with. >Ignoring the ceramics (likely to be for RFI suppression), it would appear >you're describing this circuit : > > >o-----)|| +---------------+------------o +ve output > )||(------>|----+ | > )||( | ===== > )||(--o\o-------)----+ ----- > )||( | | | > )||(------>|----+ +----------+-------------o -ve output >o-----)|| > >A very standard PSU circuit using a 'bi-phase' full wave rectifier. I think that's it. Why did I see a small voltage when I tested it *after* the fuse blew? The - side doesn't connect to *anything* - I'd think it'd float right up to the voltage of the positive side (charging through my VOM meter, if no other way). Or is there some effective resistance through the electrolytic? >Is there room to insert a normal fuseholder (maybe a 20mm one), then you >could use a fuse without pigtails... Hm. Maybe. I actually have a small fuseholder (one of the few parts I have in my box). I'll see whether I can make it fit. It would mount in among caps and diodes with not much room to spare on a small circuit board, though, so I may be stuck with a pigtail version. - Mark

23 years, 10 months

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Bell & Howell Apple II update

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > You do realise that BNC connectors were used for RF and video Well, it stands to reason, I suppose. > applications long before there was any form of ethernet, I > take it. The > video ones are likely to be '75 Ohm' characterisic impedance, > so you'd > have to get the right plugs to fit them. 50 Ohm plugs will > fit, but the > larger centre pin will spread out the contacts on the socket. > And anyway > you'll have an impedance mismatch. I doubt you'd notice the slight > ringing from that on the screen, but it never hurts to do > things right. I have a 50-75 ohm converter, I believe. I'll need to dig it up. > it's separate outputs for the standard (40 column) video from the > motherboard and for video from an 80 column expansion card. Hadn't thought of that. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

23 years, 10 months

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Bell & Howell Apple II update

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > There're a lot of different connectors that get used for composite > monitors. For school use, they want one that can withstand > some abuse, > and will stay on. (When somebody trips over the cord, it > should be strong > enough to pull the entire machine off of the table.) Heh. That was my first guess too -- but I've never seen this particular thing used on a composite video signal before. (Well, maybe the L+sync used on b&w monitors...) My assumption will be (until I can check it out) that these are simply split off of the original apple RCA plug on the mainboard, and carry the same signal. (I hope this is the case, since it would be a simple matter of fabricating an adaptor (for which I may have the parts...). > an unusual connector, with a hollow cylindrical plug a few > inches long, > with a pin in the center. I had to check out a cable each Got pictures of this thing? > time to use it, > until Electronics Etc (R.I.P.) came up with an adapter of that plug to > BNC. > OB_CC: My TRS-80 model 1 was quite happy sending signal to > half a dozen > giant overhead monitors. I don't see why it wouldn't be. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

23 years, 10 months

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TSU05 Docs?

by Andreas.Freiherr＠Vishay.com

Does anybody out there have the docs available for the TSU05 controller board used in PDP-11s or VAXes with UNIBUS to connect to the DEC variant of the Cipher F880? The board is M7455, and I am looking for the meanings of the DIP switches. There must be CSR address and interrupt vector, each made up by several individual switches, but in addition to that, an "extended features" switch and one for "buffering". And, no, I am certain that I did not confuse this with the TSV05 (M7196) for Qbus. Thanks in advance! Andreas -- Andreas Freiherr Vishay Semiconductor GmbH, Heilbronn, Germany http://www.vishay.com

23 years, 10 months

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boot sector

by Golemancd＠aol.com

o yeah thanks. After about 10 minutes i figured out that there is a loop at the top. i just add the jump to the enty code. thanks. joe

23 years, 10 months

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I need PDP-11/34A Help Again (Suprise Suprise)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 24, Andreas Freiherr wrote: [pdp11/34] > Try this: enter 773000, load this address, and then press START. Since > 773000 is the standard start address for a bootstrap ROM, this should > get you a response on the console terminal attached to the DL-11W. > (Don't remember which, but I think it should ask for a two-letter device > code to boot.) It'll print the contents of R0, R4, R6, and R7, then give you a "@" prompt on the next line, at which you'd type a two letter device name to boot from. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

23 years, 10 months

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Looking for a boot disk for OS/9 for a CoCo 3

by vze2wsvr＠verizon.net

Checked on eBay, none available. Anyone have such a thing? Original preferred but will accept a permanent offsite backup as well. Let me know how much you want for it. TIA, Eric

23 years, 10 months

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I need PDP-11/34A Help Again (Suprise Suprise)

by Andreas.Freiherr＠Vishay.com

Owen, still interested in getting your PDP-11/34 to work? - I am just about to reassemble mine after relocation. RUN light off and display 000002 means the processor halted at memory location 2, so it has probably executed a HALT instruction (opcode 000000) from location 0. Try this: enter 773000, load this address, and then press START. Since 773000 is the standard start address for a bootstrap ROM, this should get you a response on the console terminal attached to the DL-11W. (Don't remember which, but I think it should ask for a two-letter device code to boot.) BTW: The DL11-W has a 20mA interface as well as RS-232. (Note the "1488" and "1489" chips being present as well as a number of transistors and other discrete components.) Which on is used depends on the cable: the plug will have some wire connections to code it for either 20mA current loop or RS-232 / V.24. If you have an original cable with the usual DB-25 connector, it should be OK: current loop used a completely different 6-pin connector. For the settings at the terminal, I don't know this particular type, but with most DEC lines you should be best prepared if you use XON/XOFF handshake ("Main Rcv Hndsk" / "Main Xmt Hdsk"). Since at PDP-11 times, the 8th bit was commonly used as a parity bit, set your terminal to ignore this. Otherwise, you may get garbage characters instead of about every second readable character. A RS-232 break signal (certain voltage level applied for a certain time, not a sequence of bits!) can sometimes cause a PDP-11 to HALT (depending on settings on the interface board), so you may want to avoid this... (perhaps by choosing an appropriate setting for the "Disconnect" option for now?) So much from memory. If you need more details, let me know, and I'll dig into the docs. Good luck, Andreas -- Andreas Freiherr Vishay Semiconductor GmbH, Heilbronn, Germany http://www.vishay.com

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BBC Master keyboard

by CLeyson＠aol.com

Just got myself an old BBC for 6502 assembler. My problem is that some of the key contacts need cleaning. My question is - Am I correct in thinking that all the keys need to unsoldered from the PCB, and are the key contacts easy to get at and clean ? Chris

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by thilo.schmidt＠unix-ag.org

Hi, On 24-Jan-2002 Bryan Pope wrote: > Are there any companies out there still making dot-matrix tractor-feed > printers? Look at http://www.psi-si.de I've seen some of their printers in action, quite impressive ;-) bye -- Sanity is the trademark of a weak mind. -- Mark Harrold

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I'm Baack!

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I guess I only thought I'd get out of this hobby. Last week I got this <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/mds-80/picture.jpg> in the mail. This is from a deal that I've had working for over a year. I've got it running and it works nice! So has any body got any MDS manuals, SW or parts that they'd like to part with? Joe

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WTH is this?

by CLeyson＠aol.com

Looks like an Analog Devices measurement card of some sort. Try asking Analog Devices: URL www.analog.com or mailto: wwwcustomer.service(a)analog.com. Chris

23 years, 10 months

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Z-100 serial ports

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Although I have (I believe) all of the manuals for the Zenith Z-100 (not Z-100 pc), I cannot find any reference to the serial ports on this box. What are the addresses of the DTE and DCE ports? I'd like to write some assembly code to access these devices (under CP/M-86) but want to control them at the hardware level instead of making BDOS calls. Any help out there? TIA, Glen 0/0

23 years, 10 months

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Mystical Ugly Computers (Was: RE: Appropritate comic strip....)

by mythtech＠Mac.com

> > This comes from a person that bought a G4 cube the day they announced > > it would be discontinued. I wanted to insure that we got one for my > > little collection. > > You could have waited several years and got it for the fraction of the > cost, either online or at a thrift store ;) >From what I have heard about the plastics on the cube... they might not last long enough to make it to the thrift stores. I was under the impression, they were fairly fragile. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Ugly Computers (Was: RE: Appropritate comic strip....)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > [...] As for the new iMac, I think that, like > the original iMac, it's meant to demystify computers for those that > have no interest in them for the most part and who don't want a plain > beige box taking up space. Like it or not, it's hard to ignore and > it does make a statement. Demystify? I don't know, I expect my mother is as mystified about her spiffy new 2001 iMac as she is about her 1988 Mac Plus. She just expects me to understand, and hopes she can figure it out before she has to resort to calling me. On the other hand, it does simplify computers! 2001's iMac came with a sheet of setup instructions. Six numbered pictures, no words, and step 6 is pressing the power switch. It's real simple, just connect keyboard to computer, mouse to keyboard, phone or ethernet to computer, computer to power, and then press the power switch. No need to fuss with monitor or speakers, they're built-in. What was real fun about this upgrade was getting the files from the Mac Plus to the iMac. The Mac Plus can write 800KB stiffies, SCSI, and serial; and the iMac can read CD-ROM, USB, Ethernet, modem, and Firewire. Note what they have in common: nothing. I did a dry run using an iBook and my old Mac Plus. First I got a Belkin USB-to-SCSI doohickey and installed that on the iBook. Then I connected the Mac Plus' hard disk to the SCSI doohickey and booted MacOS 9.2. It asked me whether I wanted to initialize the unrecognized volume, and I told it no. So much for that idea, and a good thing it wasn't listening for spoken commands as I'd probably have turned its ears blue. The next try was with Basilisk II running on a Windows Me Harder notebook, emulating a Quadra 650 and running System 7.5.3. This worked better: I was able to connect the Plus' hard disk via an Adaptec SlimSCSI PCMCIA interface and mount it and copy the files over. Then I was able to use Appletalk to share the volume over the notebook's Ethernet interface and mount it from the iBook. So the WinMe notebook went back east with me. There I found that Mom's Mac Plus' hard disk is a Jasmine, and there's something about it that doesn't work with Basilisk II running System 7.5.3. If it's on the SCSI bus, the simulated Mac hangs when it tries to mount the disk. After three days of fussing with this I punted, used Stuffit on Mom's Mac Plus to make archives of all her stuff (all 8MB of it!) and Mac Kermit to transfer the archives over serial cabling to the simulated Mac. That took a couple of multiple-hour sessions so let's say a day. Then I unpacked the archives on the simulated Mac and did the Appletalk share so the iMac could copy the files over. And y'know what? AppleWorks 6.1.2 knows how to read ClarisWorks 1.0 files. One of my co-workers was the QA lead for ClarisWorks 1.0, and he is very happy to know not only that a little old lady in Maryland was using it for most of the last decade, but that her bits are safe. I'm very happy too. -Frank McConnell

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More HP1000's

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

BTW: Was thinking about getting a camera and taking some pictures of the 1000s. If I take pictures, does anyone have the bandwidth and willingness to host them? SteveRob _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

23 years, 10 months

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OT? Yahoo Free Listing Day

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Cameron Kaiser [mailto:spectre@stockholm.ptloma.edu] > > > Now where all the female programer types when you want them? :) > > Very difficult to find. > So what does that make Megan and Allison? :-P @@R@RE!!@!@!@! I guess... Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

23 years, 10 months

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Tall Trees Jlaser documentation needed

by mercuriusint＠earthlink.net

I need documentation for a Tall Trees Jlaser-3 (with JRAM AT3-P) and Jlaser-5 board. I need to change some on-board switches. Can anyone help? Ron Pierce -- Ron Pierce Mercurius International (831) 659-5622 http://www.termslink.com/

23 years, 10 months

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Fate of the Astronautics ZS-1 systems

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Jon Auringer > > Hello all, > ...... > After negotiating with my company (Astronautics) for the release of the > four remaining complete systems that sit at our Technology Center in > Madison Wisconsin, we were able to secure one of the machines for the > Rhode Island Computer Museum. The company is not the least bit > interested in preserving the other three. They are destined to be > scrapped. We tried. :( ...... ======== That's a bummer. Can you at least rip parts out of them, for spares for the R.I.C.M? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818

23 years, 10 months

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OT? Yahoo Free Listing Day

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] > > Now where all the female programer types when you want them? :) > I Seem To Recall, from a thread last month, that Chris has > scored the > only known prototype.... Heh. Maybe with enough tinkering you could make a workable one out of a stock model? I would offer detailed technical information, but I'm not sure how long I can get her to hold leads from an oscilloscope. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

23 years, 10 months

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Bell & Howell Apple II update

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > In the UK it's even used on reasonoable-grade consumer video > equipment. > Are you saying it's not common in the States? Not so much. All consumer equipment that I've seen only has "RCA" plugs. I guess it's kind of common on ethernet adaptors ;) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

23 years, 10 months

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Fate of the Astronautics ZS-1 systems

by auringer＠tds.net

Hello all, I had promised to post an update when the fate of the ZS-1 systems had been decided. Here it is. After negotiating with my company (Astronautics) for the release of the four remaining complete systems that sit at our Technology Center in Madison Wisconsin, we were able to secure one of the machines for the Rhode Island Computer Museum. The company is not the least bit interested in preserving the other three. They are destined to be scrapped. We tried. :( Merle Peirce will be in Madison this saturday, January 26th, to pick up the machine and _lots_ of spares for RICM. We will also be moving the DEC VAX 11/780 systems and other equipment at that time. If you are in the area and would like to lend a hand, please let me know. I am sure that we will be able to find a few souvenirs that will make it worthwhile. Merle plans to be at Astronautics around 9am saturday. Thankfully, the weather forecast calls for unseasonably warm temperatures this weekend (lower 40's). Again, please let me know if you plan to come. Thanks, Jon Jon Auringer auringer(a)tds.net P.S. To anyone who I may have failed to reply to personally, I apologize. The flood of e-mail that was generated by my posts about the ZS systems and the 11/780s was overwhelming. Between this, preparing to move our facility, and the possibility of pending unemployment, I have been having trouble keeping all of the balls in the air.

23 years, 10 months

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Looking for a boot disk for OS/9 for a CoCo 3

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Chomko [mailto:vze2wsvr@verizon.net] > Checked on eBay, none available. Anyone have such a thing? Original > preferred but will accept > a permanent offsite backup as well. Let me know how much you want for > it. It's been a while, but I seem to remember that there was some of OS/9 on Tandy's "deskmate" disk. It would even give you a prompt if you interrupted it during boot. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

23 years, 10 months

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%20Ebay:%20Stuff%20&%20%20Help%20needed%20with%20Osborne%201

by DolliemaeD＠aol.com

hi hope you can help me i need to know where to go to find out how much my items cost on the auction

23 years, 10 months

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Apple II boards

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Lawrence LeMay [mailto:lemay@cs.umn.edu] > Thats starting to sound a bit like white-coat syndrome. These > computers > are not rare artifacts to be hidden away behind glass walls, > only to be > touched by the neophites in white lab coats, you know. Go ahead and > experiment, heck throw the completely wrong hardware in and cause a > major short circuit! And in so doing, know that you can Well, I'd _rather_ not do that. :) It seems kind of a waste when you could do things right and the world could have one more functional machine. > always get another > apple ][+ or 3 for about $5 (if not for free, heaven knows i > keep getting > offered the things...) I hope that they remain that common into the foreseeable future. > Cmon, what could possibly be less valuable than an Apple ][+? > A C64 perhaps... Possibly, with an IBM peesee XT generally coming in as less valuable than that. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

23 years, 10 months

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Apple II boards

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/23/02 8:53:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, edick(a)idcomm.com writes: << The things take up lots of valuable space, yet aren't of much value if you don't learn what you can. You can learn a few things from an Apple-era computer, but not if you don't pay attention. Just getting a bunch of boards and trying to run them without knowing what's going on is a sure way to waste a bunch of space and time, and produce no useful knowledge. >> I seriously doubt you can learn any less or more than any other computer of the time. Using any computer will teach you basic concepts that one needs to know provided one pays attention. old computers, old cars and sundry items www.nothingtodo.org

23 years, 10 months

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Here I Am

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 23, Jeffrey S. Sharp wrote: > Yeah? Well, *my* Oklahoma personalized license plate says "FreeBSD" (for > real). Top that! :-) You, sir, are a GEEK! ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

23 years, 10 months

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Security bits

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 22, 9:37, Tothwolf wrote: > On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Tony Duell wrote: > > > There are some security screws it doesn't cover. Most notably, 'System > > Zero', which is commonly used in electronic and computer equipment. I've > > found modems assembled with those, for what reason nobody seems to know... > > What do these look like? Are they the ones with a raised line across the > head of the screw? They look like a Torx screw head turned inside out. Imagine something between a pan head and a round head (ie slightly domed) with six small notches in the edge. The sides are sloping/curved and they're usually hardened, and the edges of the notches are slightly rounded off so you can't get a grip with pliers. There's a picture at http://website.lineone.net/~dave.cushman/zeroscrew.jpg -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 10 months

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OT? Apple Stylewriter problems (PS progress)

by mtapley＠swri.edu

All, Potentially useful info for the list: 1) Stylewriter power supply uses zero-screws (or whatever you call them). 2) Stylewriter PS has a seperate fuse in the - leg of the output, and it's easy to desolder. The long version: Sat down with murder in my eye to work on the power supply. Pete Turnbull wrote (on another thread) >They look like a Torx screw head turned inside out. Imagine something >between a pan head and a round head (ie slightly domed) with six small >notches in the edge. The sides are sloping/curved and they're usually >hardened, and the edges of the notches are slightly rounded off so you >can't get a grip with pliers. There's a picture at >http://website.lineone.net/~dave.cushman/zeroscrew.jpg A perfect description of the three fasteners holding the case together - as I realized once I had them out in the light of day. Unfortunately I *got* them out in the light of day by trying to pop them loose after heating with a soldering iron. Instead of melting the studs the threads were threaded into, I melted the barrels of the recesses the screw heads were in. Things Got Smelly, the case creaked apart, and the recess barrels were left with the studs, screws still firmly in place. However, at that point, I was able to grab the severed barrels, squeeze with pliers until the walls of the barrel gripped the zero-screw head, and twist out the zero-screw. Anybody need 3 slightly used zero-screws? *I* sure as heck don't! To put back together, I plan to find longer pan-head screws with similar diameter and thread pitch, put around the studs plastic soda straws long enough to reach up to the other side of the case, then put the pan-head screws (with washers as needed) through the holes that originally formed the tops of the recessions and through the straws into the studs. (The soda straws are to electrically isolate the screws from whatever voltages are flying around inside, because the recess barrels ain't gonna do it, now being in pieces in my trash can (with extreme prejudice).) Inside, there's a big transformer. One side has 2 leads wired to the blades that go into the wall. The other side has 3 leads going to a circuit board. The leads on either end go through diodes to the "+" output. The lead in the center (marked "C.T" - let me guess - center tap?) goes through a cylindrical glass fuse to the "-" output. There's a big capacitor (electrolytic? Black cylinder) between "+" and "-" and a few small (ceramic?) disk capacators scattered around. The fuse had shuffled off its mortal coil. I mean, even *before* I desoldered it. Which, BTW and of course, I think I did without damaging anything. This thing is so simple even I can almost understand it. Now I need a 3.7 (? something like that) Amp fuse with pigtails, and a couple screws, and who knows, maybe I'll be back in power. Definitely going to be a web-shopping day. Comments, 'attaboys, "enough-already-with-the-d*mn-printer"'s, etc., all welcome. - Mark

23 years, 10 months

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Bell & Howell Apple II update

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Ok guys, I have to admit first off that I read the tags wrong on that Bell & Howell. It is -- as someone suggested -- an Apple II Plus. Also, it doesn't have the D-shaped cut-outs after all, but rather it has vertical slits with somewhat d-shaped metal inserts in them. (Ok so I didn't look too well.. :) I've cleaned it up, and it looks in good condition, with two exceptions: There is a pin broken off of the power cord :/ -- I'm going to replace it. The monitor connectors are two ethernet-looking BNC plugs (WTF!?) Can anyone tell me what's going on with these? Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

23 years, 10 months

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OT? Yahoo Free Listing Day

by marvin＠rain.org

This may be a bit off topic, but Yahoo is having a Free Listing Day on January 24th thus reducing their already reasonable rates :). They do have a Vintage classification and I expect to have some "stuff" there. Yahoo has the facilities in place to handle a large number of auctions, and with ebay continuing its direction towards retail, collectables need a site that *wants* them.

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Xerox 4050 & IBM PS/2 Model 80 Available

by bill_r＠inetnebr.com

The Xerox 4050 is a printer controller, but appears to be some sort of mini-computer with a Xerox logo on it; it has a floppy drive and possibly internal hard drive. If anyone knows anything else about these, info posted to this list would be appreciated. The thing is waiting for pickup by a scrapper, whose truck is currently being repaired. If you get here first, you can have it. It's about the size and weight of a chest freezer. Also available is an IBM PS/2 Model 80-386 micro-channel tower machine. Includes a micro-channel token-ring network card. Both of these items were pulled from use in the last couple of months and should be in good working order. They are available _for_local_pickup_only_ in Lincoln, Nebraska. Drop me a note quick if you want either of them before they go to the big bit-bucket in the sky! Bill Richman bill_r(a)inetnebr.com http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r Home of Fun with Molten Metal, technological oddities, and the original COSMAC Elf computer simulator!

23 years, 10 months

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Apple II boards

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/23/02 5:54:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, lemay(a)cs.umn.edu writes: << Well, as with any other system, once you know about the "vanilla" system, you > can easily decide for yourself what additional hardware you need. The way to > make sure you never get it right is to run out and snag everything that seems > "neat" without first knowing, absolutely, what the consequence of attempting > to use it will be. > > Dick Thats starting to sound a bit like white-coat syndrome. These computers are not rare artifacts to be hidden away behind glass walls, only to be touched by the neophites in white lab coats, you know. Go ahead and experiment, heck throw the completely wrong hardware in and cause a major short circuit! And in so doing, know that you can always get another apple ][+ or 3 for about $5 (if not for free, heaven knows i keep getting offered the things...) Cmon, what could possibly be less valuable than an Apple ][+? A C64 perhaps... >> just because they are plentiful in /some/ places doesnt mean you should just abuse them for fun. Around here, I havent seen any apple // items available for years. old computers, old cars and sundry items www.nothingtodo.org

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Apple II boards

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/23/02 3:25:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, edick(a)idcomm.com writes: << If you're patient, I'm going to be disposing of the considerable assortment of Apple boards I have lying about, including a couple of II+'s and a IIe. The only things I'm likely to keep will be the PSU's. It might be well for you to learn about the Apple-][+ before running out to get various add-ons, so you get the "right" stuff as opposed to a wierd assortment of junk. >> Hopefully, you will offer these goodies here before ebaying them off. I've a huge stash of apple goodies, but always could use more. wish i could find a clock card... old computers, old cars and sundry items www.nothingtodo.org

23 years, 10 months

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Osborne Executive and TI MicroLaser Plus free to good home, Hackensack, NJ

by whdawson＠mlynk.com

To all (especially those that are desirous enough of the subject items to drive to Hackensack, NJ), As a participant in the Computer Rescue Squad, I received this email (edited): -> Osborne Executive and a Texas Instruments MicroLaser Plus -> free to good home. Must pick up, I do not have time to ship. -> Thanks. -> Paul. -> Ph.D. I answered with a brief reply indicating that I cannot do so but surely can locate someone who can. Paul's reply to this was: -> A couple of other "Computer Rescuers" have contacted me but the logistics -> are awkward. Do you know anyone who can just stop by the house here and -> pick up some evening? -> Thanks. -> Paul. -> Ph.D. I have Paul's email address and telephone number. If you can meet the requirements of Paul's reply (i.e. 1. STOP BY HOUSE, 2. PICK UP (HACKENSACK, NJ AREA)) please contact me off-list and I will forward his contact details to you. Sorry, but because of the SPAM issues relating to email addresses on this list the last thing I want to do is post someone else's email address here without their permission. 'til later, Bill w1h0d1a0w1s0o1n(a)m0l1y0n1k.com (my valid email address does not contain any binary digits, to those of you who cannot access it in the header of this posting) http://www.swtpc.com

23 years, 10 months

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Digital Products PrintDirector manual ff/shipping

by lgwalker＠mts.net

I have an Owners Manual for a Digital Products PrintDirector if anyone has use for it. Free for shipping. Lawrence Reply to: lgwalker(a)mts.net

23 years, 10 months

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OT? Yahoo Free Listing Day

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Interesting comment. I just registered another ID (I forgot I had > already registered) on Yahoo and didn't see anything out of the ordinary > or anything that threw out red flags. I just made a bid to see what > would happen, and everything worked fine. Maybe they've calmed down on the amount of data they're collecting. When I looked into it a few months ago they wanted among other things a Credit Card number. Thanks, but no thanks Yahoo. Zane

23 years, 10 months

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Yahoo Vintage Computer Auctions

by marvin＠rain.org

I was just looking at the Yahoo Vintage listings, and there is some stuff there that I had only previously seen on Ebay. This is good :)! The URL is: http://list.auctions.shopping.yahoo.com/23341-category-leaf.html

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Osborne Executive and TI MicroLaser Plus free to good home, Hackensack, NJ

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>I have Paul's email address and telephone number. If you can meet the >requirements of >Paul's reply (i.e. 1. STOP BY HOUSE, 2. PICK UP (HACKENSACK, NJ AREA)) >please contact me >off-list and I will forward his contact details to you. First, its Hackettstown, not Hackensack (at least that is where he told ME he was... if it was Hackensack, I would have picked it up the night he emailed me, being that Hackensack is 15 minutes from me... Hackettstown is 60 minutes) Second: I already told Paul I would be happy to pick it up. Then he offered to drop it off at my place when he went to CT on Friday. I told him that would be fine, but not to make a special trip (I can't figure a way to get to me that is a route to CT without taking a good 30 minute detour). I guess I will re-email him, and clairfy that I am happy to drive to him to pick it up. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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fresh meat to the wolves

by aek＠spies.com

wll599(a)aol.com wrote: > > Greetings, I will go to the storage room to get the exact model numbers. Off > hand I know I have the 316, Varian 620i (rackmount), 2 pdp 11-05, 2 Data > General Nova 1200 (I think), 1 Computer Automation, and a HP 2114 (I think). > These were all used to test and checkout old "Linc" tape, 10 channel magnetic > tape units, from a company I worked for in the late 70 early 80's.

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Apple II boards

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Hi everybody, I have three more Apple questions Given that I'm going to be repairing that Apple II Plus soon, I find myself wondering what is the maximum amount of ram that the machine can address? I also wonder whether it would be remotely possible to "upgrade" it with the old IIGS memory board that I swapped out of my GS a while back ;) (Probably no such luck there...) Last, but not least, what are some recommended boards/peripherals for the Apple II Plus? What about the IIe? (Yep, got one of those too -- I'm sure this one really _is_ a IIe, and I'd be especially interested in knowing about the IIGS upgrade) What about the IIGS? Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Bell & Howell Apple II update

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Heh. That was my first guess too -- but I've never seen this particular >thing used on a composite video signal before. (Well, maybe the L+sync >used on b&w monitors...) I have a couple of JVC monitors with BNC composite video connectors. These are the monitors salvaged from a video editing suite... I actually saw BNC used for composite video on a fairly regular basis in the TV studios (I think I saw that more often then seeing RCA connectors) >My assumption will be (until I can check it out) that these are simply >split off of the original apple RCA plug on the mainboard, and carry the >same signal. (I hope this is the case, since it would be a simple matter >of fabricating an adaptor (for which I may have the parts...). You can buy a BNC to RCA adaptor from places like Radio Shack (or even a BNC to RCA cable... although I am not sure Rat Shack stocks those anymore... might be special order). Or, like you say, it is fairly trivial to build a custom BNC to RCA cable. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Bell & Howell Apple II update

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>(When somebody trips over the cord, it should be strong >enough to pull the entire machine off of the table.) I always loved this logic. Lets build the cable really strong, so that when someone trips on it... we save the $15 cable, but yank the $5000 computer onto the floor breaking it instead. Although, I also understand the flip side... it isn't that the cable is designed to withstand abuse, so much as designed to not fall out easily during standard use (thus rational why all the electric cords for my fire trucks use twist lock... even if it means it will knock over a $3000 light tower rather than unplug itself... the last thing you need at an emergency scene is cords randomly unplugging themselves... and the last thing a school tech person wants to deal with is 100 calls a week because the RCA plug fell out again, and the untrained teachers don't know enough to plug it back in... and things like BNC are used on pro level AV equipment for the same reason, so cables aren't always falling out when something is shifted around) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Bell & Howell Apple II update

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

..... there was a connector for the overhead video monitors. It was an unusual connector, with a hollow cylindrical plug a few inches long, with a pin in the center. That sounds like a MUSA connector, common in broadcasting but not in domestic equipment. Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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Here I Am

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 23, Eric Dittman wrote: > Well, I can see that NetBSD won't be running on my main system > any time soon, since I have two CPUs. I'm surprised to hear > that NetBSD is just now supporting SMP as I thought that would > have been supported already. It took forever because most of the SMP code is machine-independent. Since most of the groundwork is now done, the folks working on different architectures only have the machine-specific stuff to do. VAX followed Alpha by a matter of a couple of weeks at most, for example. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Apple II boards

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 23, 10:50, Christopher Smith wrote: > Given that I'm going to be repairing that Apple II Plus soon, I find myself wondering what is the maximum amount of ram that the machine can address? 48K on the motherboard, plus 16K on a standard RAM card (eg Language Card) though I recall some that had 64K (not directly addressable, of course). > I also wonder whether it would be remotely possible to "upgrade" it with the old IIGS memory board that I swapped out of my GS a while back ;) (Probably no such luck there...) No. > Last, but not least, what are some recommended boards/peripherals for the Apple II Plus? What about the IIe? (Yep, got one of those too -- I'm sure this one really _is_ a IIe, and I'd be especially interested in knowing about the IIGS upgrade) What about the IIGS? I'd suggest language card, parallel printer card -- preferably one of the better ones such as a Grappler card, serial card, 80-column card, second Disk ][ card and two more drives if you want to run UCSD, hard drive controller, ... The //e takes the same cards, except that it already has 64K RAM and has no need of a language card; it also has provision for a special 80-column card in Slot 3, set back from the rest of the slots. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Security bits

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 23, 9:39, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote: > On 23 Jan 2002, R. D. Davis wrote: > > Quothe Tony Duell, from writings of Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 11:45:06PM +0000: > > > In my experience nothing will grip those other than the right tool. Even > > > the well known kludgers tool, 'Mole Grips', just spring off.... > > When all else fails, why not use a very strong epoxy to "weld" a piece > > of metal, or a bolt, screw, etc. onto the heads of these idiotic > > security screws, and then just unscrew them by putting a tool onto the > > attached piece metal, screw, bolt, etc.? Ok, it's a kludge. but it > > Why don't you just take a very small [such as dental] burr, and just cut a > slot for a screwdriver? 'Cos they're usually hardened and a dental burr will make little or no impression on it. A cutting disk works, though, when there's room to get at the screw head. It's easier to buy the right tool bit, though. And they're usually so tight that epoxy will give way before you turn it. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Here I Am

by ken＠seefried.com

Sridhar Wrote: >> Of course OpenBSD sucks in that it doesn't support >> multiprocessor systems! > >That's why you go with NetBSD. > Well...maybe. The SMP support in NetBSD is still pretty new, and still lives in an "experimental" CVS branch. While the latest snapshot kernel seems pretty reliable (./build.sh -j 2 works at least twice in a row :-), it's probably not a good thing for production use just yet. YMMV. Other than that, NetBSD is awfully useful. Ken

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Resolved? HP 9000 800/G40 console cable

by csmith＠amdocs.com

I've found what I _think_ is the proper cable for this machine. These bits of info were buried somewhere in the HP web site. I unfortunately don't have the attributions (you can find them right now with a google search), but the general idea is: ------------------- The HP part number for the cable is A1703-63003 and the price is $43 US dollars. This info was found at http://outfield.external.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/main.pl which is the home page for HP partsurfer, an application that allows toy to identify and order parts for many HP machines. -------------------- Pinout for standard console _cable_ (A1703-63003) is: DIN CONNECTOR FRONT VIEW DIN 25pin 2__1 3.____.2 4____3 6||5 4.____.3 ^ | 1.____.7 KEY --------------------- These were both posted in reply to a question about a different machine -- "F" class I think -- but I have checked HP's "partsurfer" site, and the cable is, indeed, used on the "G" class as well. I have contacted two resellers to see whether I can get it at a reasonable (read: not $46) price. Otherwise I will try to build it. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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