- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Smith" <csmith(a)amdocs.com> > > The BNC connectors do, indeed, carry composite video. > Yes, they do. In fact, I just saw one carrying DC power. It > was part of an > adapter at the other side of which were two banana plugs. > Don't ask me why. Well, I've taken a guess at what you're replying to... Let me know if I'm way off. :) I was referring to these specific BNC connectors on the Apple II. It's interesting, though, that someone would use BNC to carry power. On the other hand, there are some points where the huge variety of plugs available (which carry the same signal) is ridiculous. Sometimes I think the world would be better off using, for instance, banana plugs, for everything. (Don't cross the wires! -- unless you really mean it.) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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VT131 needs keyboard help

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 12:26, Christopher Smith wrote: > Another weekend project of mine has been working on a VT131 > terminal. The terminal seems to work fine when receiving data. > > The terminal always powers up with a "4" in the corner > (keyboard error?). Typing characters on the keyboard will give > no response from either the terminal, or the system to which > it's connected. The lights flash (all at once), and the speaker > beeps when power is applied to the terminal. No lights are ever > activated afterwards, though. > > Having taken apart the keyboard, it does have an empty socket for > a DIP. Anyone know what this is? I gave away my VT131 a few weeks ago so I don't know :-( > Is it possible that this is a "lookalike" keyboard? Did DEC make > different models for different VT100 terminals -- were they > compatible? If this is an authentic DEC keyboard, will it be > marked as such somewhere? If so, how? > > The key layout _looks_ like VT100, but... The keyboard is the same as that for a VT100. There are more setup options, but the only significant difference is that the sticker on the underside has more places to record them :-) My VT131 actually had a VT101 keyboard. > The reason I'm asking about the brand is that there was another > terminal at the junk yard, completely trashed, which looked like > a VT100, but had a completely different branding. I forget the > brand right off, but I'm afraid I may have picked up the keyboard > for the dead terminal, and that it may not be compatible at all. Maybe a Plessey terminal? I had two which looked just like a VT100 from the outside, but had different (Plessey-made) logic inside, and incompatible keyboards. > Failing a way to positively identify the keyboard, are there any > common modes of failure along these lines? > > Also, I'm guessing at this point that the terminal is in good shape. > Does anyone know where to get a keyboard? I vaguely remember something like a flashing "4" in the top corner of my VT131 if the keyboard wasn't connected. Maybe not exactly that, but something of the sort. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Sell [mailto:msell@ontimesupport.com] > Additional bonus points awarded if the only boot mechanism > was a 9-track > tape drive that required you to disconnect your dryer as part of the > boot-up process....... Even more if it requires some manual intervention in octal before the boot process can begin. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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IRIS Power Series power supply questions

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 12:17, Christopher Smith wrote: > Hi everybody, > > In preparation for my eventual booting of the IRIS Power Series > machine, I pulled the back off yesterday and inspected the power > supply, etc. [...] > The square-ish plugs should all be plugged in to the plug they > match. (I thought this one was pretty safe.) That would be my assumption too. > The three loose post-screws go to the three wires that were just > floating around loose (coming directly (more or less) out of the > twist-lok plug. These screws are labeled N~, L~, and <earth > symbol> > > The Earth pin on the twist-lok plug is the longer one. (made sense > to me, but I can't find anything to confirm it...) > > The L~ probably stands "Live" or something like that (?) > > The N~ probably means "Negative" L is Live (or Line in the US), N is Neutral. > The positive lead on the twist-lok plug is the one that has the > breaker on it. > > Given that logic: > > The L~, being positive, should be attached to the wire with the > breaker in it. Yes. > The wire connected to the long pin on the plug should be connected > to the <earth symbol> connector. Yes. The reasoning is that the earth connection should always be the first one made and the last one broken in normal connection/disconnection. > The other wire should be connected to the only loose-screw left. > > There is further evidence in the way the wires were bent, which > suggests that this is all correct. > > Has anyone see these things before, and can possibly confirm this? Yes. The live wire is always the one with the switch, breaker and/or fuse, unless it's a two-pole breaker (one pole for live, one for neutral) of course. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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HPIL ISA card

by pcw＠mesanet.com

Whilst rooting through a junk box looking for something else, I found this HP ISA HPIL interface card 82973-60001. Free for shipping... Peter Wallace

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What's an Intel Series 90?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

above. It looks like some kind of memory system for VMS and possibly others. Joe

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Need source for high current HP type (with dimple) 14 or 16AWG 110vac power cord

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 9:28, r. 'bear' stricklin wrote: > I brought home a pair of SGI Onyx RealityEngine2 systems yesterday, and > had just sat down to see if I could determine how much effort it would > take to locate power cords to fit them. Then I see that Russ has done my > homework for me. Nice! One in each pocket, was it? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Pertec controller

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 28, John Allain wrote: > Ciprico Tapemaster Pertec tape controller. > I don't know what bus it is, VME or whatever > but here's a details: > 6 1/2" x 12" overall > 43 pads at 4mm each > a 1+ inch space, then > 30 pads at 0.1 inch each. > > Doesn't fit anything I have so it's yours for shipping. FYI, this is a Multibus-I card. It was commonly used in Sun-2 systems, and some older Sun-3 systems with VME<->Multibus adapters. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Sell [mailto:msell@ontimesupport.com] > Oh! And don't forget - requires you to shut off other less critical > electrical applicances in the house, things like > "refrigerators" and "air > conditioners"...... > > : ) > > Sorry, this was *way* too much fun...... ... and even on-topic. :) How about: Your handheld electronic organizer has more RAM... There are enough light-generating components on the system to allow one to read comfortably in an otherwise dark room. You must wait until winter to run it, and open the windows to cool the room off (since you can't run the air conditioner at the same time. The boards' form factor is something on the order of a complete "large" modern desktop system. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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C3-SI

by dogas＠bellsouth.net

> > OSI bus is 12bit address and data. > > err... 20bit address, 12bit data... > > ;) > - Mike: dogas(a)bellsouth.net

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Wanted: DEC Lisp PAK

by wlewis＠mailbag.com

Oh, I've spoken to the good folks at Encompass and Montagar. (No-one directly at Compaq has ever replied to my emails.) There is apparently an Intellectual property issue that prevents them from including the old DEC Lisp in the free list. It also has to do with the fact that DEC stopped shipping the product in 1993. Hence, I'm trying to see if I can find someone with the old piece of paper so that I could convince Compaq to let me transfer the license to me. I'm just a nut who would like to legally run some antique software. As for faking the license, I don't know of anyway to hack out the PAK system... > William, > > Is http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/ and the list of products your > problem? - Indeed, I cannot see LISP there, but they won't want you to > fake a license in order to make the software run, will they? ;-) > > Did you talk to them and mention that several other programming > languages are part of the hobbyist program? > > Andreas > > William Barnett-Lewis wrote: > > > > Longshot, but someone here might have one or know where to find one. (snip) > - -- > Andreas Freiherr > Vishay Semiconductor GmbH, Heilbronn, Germany > http://www.vishay.com William -- You better watch out What you wish for; It better be worth it So much to die for. Courtney Love

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Bell & Howell Apple II update II

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Christopher Smith wrote: > > It's working guys. Thanks a lot for all of your help. > > In the interest of public information: > > The BNC connectors do, indeed, carry composite video. > Can THIS finally put to rest the assertion that BNCs were not used for > video?? Well, you don't have to convince me. ;) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Caster?? (was: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 28, Chad Fernandez wrote: > I was under the impression that big systems usually had casters. Don't > the big Vax's have wheels? Vax 6000, 7000, and 8000 series? They certainly do. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Caster?? (was: Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > I was under the impression that casters were only for very lightweight > stuff that was intended to be movable by one person without a > forklift, or > even a dolly. You're right. That should have been "at least" casters. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Searching for old DEC 12V frontpanel bulbs

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

I'm restoring some pre-TTL DEC stuff (R and W series logic) and I need a handful of front panel bulbs. Unlike the later bulbs with a plastic base and strong wires to solder to the PCB or to plug into socket pins, these are like a kernel of corn, with two fine wires coming out of the glass envelope at a slight angle with no supports of any kind. Some of the bulbs have burned-out filiaments. Many of the ones I need to replace have broken wires externally. I am going to attempt to solder new wires to the stub, but I don't expect the attempt to be an overwhelming success. I might try a harder solder so that when I put them back in the frontpanel PCB, they won't give way when I put enough heat on the other end to install them. About all I know about these bulbs is that they are fed a nominal 12VDC >from the W-series driver boards. The front panel itself is literally just a PCB and a bunch of bulbs; no active circuits (unlike, say, the front panel of a PDP-8/L). Testing should be easy - feed 12VDC at a few mA to each set of fingers and check the bulbs, one by one. If DEC was underfeeding these bulbs to extend their life, I would expect that the bulb should be rated at 14V-16V. I measured slightly over 12VDC in circuit, but well within a 5% tolerance. I have checked the online manuals I could find, but no mention is made of the nature of the bulbs for 1966/1967-era DEC equipment. Any ideas? -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by msell＠ontimesupport.com

Oh! And don't forget - requires you to shut off other less critical electrical applicances in the house, things like "refrigerators" and "air conditioners"...... : ) Sorry, this was *way* too much fun...... - Matt At 11:56 AM 1/28/2002 -0600, you wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matthew Sell [mailto:msell@ontimesupport.com] > > > Additional bonus points awarded if the only boot mechanism > > was a 9-track > > tape drive that required you to disconnect your dryer as part of the > > boot-up process....... > >Even more if it requires some manual intervention in octal before the >boot process can begin. :) > >Chris > > >Christopher Smith, Perl Developer >Amdocs - Champaign, IL > >/usr/bin/perl -e ' >print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); >' > Matthew Sell Programmer On Time Support, Inc. www.ontimesupport.com (281) 296-6066 Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST! http://www.ontimesupport.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...

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Not really 10 years - but a classic anyway

by rmeenaks＠olf.com

Hi, I picked up a VFX1 virtual reality headset from ebay at a killer price. Now the problem with the VFX1 is that the interface card is limited to only 640x480x256 colors, whereas the VFX1 helmet can run in 16bit or truecolor. To get stereoscopic mode, the VFX1 uses interlaced video to send even lines to one LCD and odd lines to the other LCD. What would it take to tap the VGA output and somehow determine which lines are even and which lines are odd and feed it to the helment directly? This is similar to the way a TV works. Searching though the net yielding the following hack: http://www.lpc.ufri.br/~dmendes/new_page_1.htm (use altavista to translate from Portugese) But he feeds the same signal to both LCDs thus stereo is lost. Any comments? Tony?? Ram -- ,,,, /'^'\ ( o o ) -oOOO--(_)--OOOo------------------------------------- | Ram Meenakshisundaram | | Senior Software Engineer | | OpenLink Financial Inc | | .oooO Phone: (516) 227-6600 x267 | | ( ) Oooo. Email: rmeenaks(a)olf.com | ---\ (----( )-------------------------------------- \_) ) / (_/

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Need source for high current HP type (with dimple) 14 or 16AWG 110vac power cord

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 16:43, Matt London wrote: > Here in the UK they go by the canocial name "Kettle Plugs", as the higher > current (15A?) version is most frequently found at the end of powercables > for electric kettles (you know, those things for heating water). > > The name is frequenly extended to the 5A version as well (the one everyone > is familiar with) > > Also in common usage is a "hot to cold cable" :&) I'm sure everyone here > can figure that one out. Actually the standard connector style was originally rated 6A, and has since been uprated to 10A (UK). The type with the notch was originally 10A, and the distinguishing feature is that it is rated for a higher temperature, hence it's use on kettles (in the US it is rated at a higher current as well as a higher temperature). Hence the terms "hot condition" and "cold condition". If you look through the list archives you'll find some other information about this, which various people posted last year. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Any AMIGA users?

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Cameron Kaiser [mailto:spectre@stockholm.ptloma.edu] > Heck, there's even a 1581fs for Commodore 1581 3.5" disks. Really? I knew of the drivers that run 1541 drives through the serial port, but hadn't heard of a native FS for anything of the sort. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Plea for HP2100S help

by aek＠spies.com

I'll check the boards from Sam in the next day or so. I've also sent a msg to Crisis to see if they have 2000 firmware for the MX

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by msell＠ontimesupport.com

Additional bonus points awarded if the only boot mechanism was a 9-track tape drive that required you to disconnect your dryer as part of the boot-up process....... - Matt At 10:22 AM 1/28/2002 -0600, you wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian Chase [mailto:vaxzilla@jarai.org] > > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Roger Merchberger wrote: > > > > Hell, *everything* I do is fast -- Winders & Linux! > > [[ahem... I have a > > > dual-processor Athlon MP 1600+ -- dual SCSI, dual LAN, > > etc... so I realize > > > this isn't a fair fight... ;-) ]] > > > You're not gonna impress anyone on this list with that candy-pants > > quiche-eating system. You can start to get our attention by get a > > computer that weighs more than you. Or barring that, we'll respect > > you more if your system doesn't have floating point instructions, > > or an integer divide, or even an integer multiply. > >Hear Hear. Though, I may listen when Athlons have casters and a >respectable console firmware with "deposit" and "examine" commands, at >least. Bonus points if you can't get them to run windows should your life >depend on it. > >Regards, > >Chris > > >Christopher Smith, Perl Developer >Amdocs - Champaign, IL > >/usr/bin/perl -e ' >print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); >' > Matthew Sell Programmer On Time Support, Inc. www.ontimesupport.com (281) 296-6066 Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST! http://www.ontimesupport.com/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi "One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...

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WTF? (was Re: Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook")

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Ian Koller <vze2mnvr(a)verizon.net> > I looked at it, then checked your "me" page, then gave up. > > If you want auctions that automatically extend, you have > that option as a seller on Yahoo. Ian, thanks for pointing this out. For the group, here's a snippet from Pat's Ebay "me" page: [begin snippet] I reserve the right not to honor any bid made during the last 2 minutes of one of my auctions. Also, I maintain a list of everyone who has ever "bid sniped" me on any auction that I was a bidder on, and I reserve the right to not honor any bids on my auction items from any bidder on that list. [snippet ends] I don't have a lot of Ebay experience, but I was under the impression that it was a fairly level playing field, albeit one where "anything goes." If someone comes up against me with a faster machine and a faster connection, then I may be sniped. Oh well. This guy carries grudges and does not appear to be a trustworthy person to deal with. I'll look more closely at "me" pages in the future. Sheesh! Glen 0/0 > Pat Barron wrote: > > > > I happened across one of these recently, and have no real interest in > > Microdata. So, I've listed the thing on eBay, check it out if > > interested... > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1326034396 > > > > --Pat.

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Plea for HP2100S help

by west＠tseinc.com

A while back my HP 2000 Access TimeShare BASIC system went down due to memory problems in the IOP (a 2100S). I thought the problems were in the core boards or the XY drivers, but just yesterday noticed that the main memory controller card (Data Control, 02100-60011) was introducing parity errors into a known good set of cards. So I suspect that many of the 8K core stacks I thought were bad, really werent and it was the data control board all along. So.... I wanted to ask if any of the list members had the following: Either 1) An HP 2100A or 2100S cpu that they would be willing to sell me or 2) An HP 02100-60011 Data Control card that they would be willing to sell me While a data control board is all I really need, I would certainly entertain buying someones 2100 cpu if it's sitting on a shelf as it would be extremely helpfull to have a spare set of the cards that make up the cpu section too. After all, the cpu is pretty much useless without the data control card anyways. Of course, I'd be perfectly willing to trade as well as buy if I have something people are interested in. Thanks in advance if anyone can help! Regards, Jay West

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Schneider AG bankrupt

by Hans.Franke＠mch20.sbs.de

It seams like the Schneider AG, once famous maker of the CPC Series Computers (well, OEM of the Amstrad CPCs) and later on of more or less IBM compatible machines (in the beginning less later on more :) is finaly bankrupt - in an as hoc notice the company declared they will officialy stop bussines and file an 'Insolvenzantrag' today. http://lib-o-mat.feedback.de/cms-public/schneider/presse/technologies/1076.… Schneider stoped to make computers some years ago, but was still a name to know in A/V Electronic. Tey own a real lot of patents around modern Display technology, digital recording and HDTV. Especialy their relativly new Laser projection system ins unique. Well, there goes the hope to get cheap laser systems soon. Gruss H. -- VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 27, William Donzelli wrote: > What I meant was that the control for a 2311 in an 1131 is the cheap > kludge - one shots, delays, and the like - when compared to the "real" > controller, the 2841. This control unit was very complex - probably more > so that an entire 1130 system. > > I have no real engineering data (Big Blue Binders) on the 2841, but it > actually would not suprise me is the 1131 or 1800 was the processor inside > (or maybe a modified version). While we're on the subject of IBM big iron, does anyone here know offhand what type of interface and protocol the 3290 plasma display terminal speaks? Also, does anyone know the part number of a keyboard that will work with it? Thanks, -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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HP87XM

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Hi folks. I unearthed an HP87XM from my storage area and have been thinking of firing it up as a little diversion. Can anyone point me toward any programming reference info? Also...what are my mass storage options on this machine? It's got an HP-IB interface, and I've seen lots of HP-IB drives over the years...but what were commonly sold with this machine? Thanks, -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by fmc＠reanimators.org

ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote: > The 2225B was the original battery powered unit (runs off 6 sub-C NiCd > cells in a special HP battery pack [1]). It was designed to be used with > portable computers and calculators (HP41, HP71, HP75, HP110). The only > problem is that there is no way to fix a paper supply to it. Presumably > you're supposed to take a stack of fanfold paper, the printer, the > printer stand, and the HPIL cables around with you. Then find a desk to > set the stand and printer on, feed in the paper and print something. Printer stands to go with Thinkjets? Luxury! Where I worked at the time we didn't buy them, not even for the HP-IB ones that pretty much stayed where they were. Most folks either stacked the paper somewhere behind the printer and dealt with the resulting loss of desk space and/or mess of tangled supply paper, printer paper, and cables; or kludged a stand out of an empty cardboard box. > Quite honestly I've never had to print anything in a location where > there's a desk but no mains supply. But anyway... It saved you having to fuss with the wall wart until you ran the battery down. But you're right, we had a couple HP-IL Thinkjets to go with a couple 110s and people who used the 110s mostly didn't bother with the Thinkjets -- they were either using the 110 to dial up the 3000 from home and didn't need a printout, or they were doing some work at home that they would bring back the next day and could print on an HP150. -Frank McConnell

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IBM 5362 Update

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 27, Colin Eby wrote: > More information will be forthcoming, sometime next > weekend -- probably whether anyone cares or not. I I care! I plan to get a System36 someday. Got any pics up yet? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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REALLY Re: Mastersport 386SX

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Douglas Taylor <taylor(a)cem.nrl.navy.mil> > It turns out I have two Zenith Data Systems 'SuperSport' labtops, one is an > 8088 model and the other is a 80386/SX 16 (I think), the last one is called > a 'SuperSport SX'. They use the same external power supply, 16.5 VDC 2.5 > amps. Well, the laptop is marked "11 VDC" but the connector is odd -- looks similar to an S-video connector. The unit doesn't belong to me and I've only seen it once, so it might not be exactly the same as S-video. Glen 0/0

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SGI R3K Indigo parts available

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

(they wwere released in '91, so they meet the ten-year rule..) I've got a metric buttload of SGI Indigo R3K RAM (4meg and 2meg modules), framebuffers (LG1 8bit) and five actual *systems* for sale/trade/etc. I've also got ten 3.5" drive sleds for R3k/ R4K Indigos. Email me if interested. Sorry, but I'm out of keyboards and mice. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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TRS-80 manuals online

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

I haven't seen this mentioned here before so for those of you interested in the TRS-80 manuals, someone has put a bunch of them online in PDF format at the following address: http://www2.asub.arknet.edu/wade/hardware.htm Jeff -- Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File http://www.cchaven.com http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by fmc＠reanimators.org

ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote: > I think I've managed to find at least one genuine HP thinkjet stand. But > you're right, most people made their own (out of plastic sheet and metal > rod, normally). We were on a budget, and we did a lot of printing on our HP 3000s, so there was a near-constant stream of available empty boxes. Sometimes we'd even get paper in boxes with sturdy tops that could be easily fashioned into Thinkjet stands. > I doubt that wall wart [1] (it's that little HP 8V 3VA unit) could supply > the printer continuously. Which means that on long print jobs the battery > pack is running down, even if the charger is plugged in. Which, in turn, > means there's a maximum length of file you can print on the HPIL thinkjet > :-(. No, it means you run the battery down and then are disappointed to find that plugging it in doesn't bring it back to life right away. Nobody ever reported that, but like I said most of our users just didn't bother with the printer. > I must say I've been very impressed with the HP82169 HPIL-HPIB interface. > It's pretty much plug-n-play for most applications :-)). Imagine a Portable Plus sitting there formatting an HP 7963 (I think) HP-IB disc drive through one of these. It will do it, and then it will let you use the whopping 20MB or so that its version of MS-DOS can handle. -Frank McConnell

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by bwit＠pobox.com

>in Monte Sereno, Calif." So he may still be around. Switchboard.com >only found five Tramiel in CA but no Jack, and I don't remember >his sons' names at the moment, but One was Sam I believe. Regards, Bob > >Now, is Gould still alive? > >- John > >

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Need source for high current HP type (with dimple) 14 or 16AWG 110vac power cord

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 27, Tothwolf wrote: > > There are three "standard" IEC power connectors...there's the one > > we're all used to, the one with the dimple (higher current) and a > > larger square one (still higher current). > > There are also ones for 240V high current gear. Maybe these are same same > as the square one you mentioned? My SGI 210S machine uses one of these > cables to connect the main PSU to the power distribution box. The power > distribution box uses a 240V 30A twist-lock power cord. The main PSU The square ones used on the deskside Challenge and Onyx systems are 120V. I've never seen a 240V version, but then everything I've done with 240V has been twist-lok connectors. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 27, Tony Duell wrote: > I must say I've been very impressed with the HP82169 HPIL-HPIB interface. > It's pretty much plug-n-play for most applications :-)). Hey, wait a minute...that might solve a problem for me. I have a time-critical need for an HPIB thinkjet, and mine is in storage a thousand miles from here. I have an HPIL thinkjet here, though, and an 82169A HPIL-HPIB interface. Can I use that interface to connect my HPIL thinkjet to the HPIB output of my scope (HP 54111D)? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Battlebot vs. PET

by jss＠subatomix.com

I'm watching Battlebots at the moment, and I just saw a demonstration of a blade-spinning bot. The demo involved shredding a Commodore PET to bits. I'm not much of a Commodore enthusiast, but I was quite taken aback. Note to self: not everyone in the world thinks like us. -- Jeffrey S. Sharp jss(a)subatomix.com

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Battlebot vs. PET

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/27/02 5:51:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com writes: > It's too bad they didn't try that on Grid! I'll bet that it's magnesium > case would have put up a good fight. Or else took the BattleBot with it > when it caught on fire! That would have been fun to see too! > > Joe > > No doubt! I still have a GRiDcase 3 in the magnesium alloy case. I have heard stories about the army dropping these from helicopters and dusting them off -n- starting them back up again. They have to weigh 30 pounds and they are built like a brick. The one I have came from retirement from the water conservation dept field officer. After *years* of continued service there isn't a dent in it or a scratch deeper than the paintjob - and there aren't many of those! -Linc. In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right... Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.

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IBM 5362 Update

by out2sea00＠yahoo.com

Folks -- Just a little update on a project I had posted the list about.... ... when we last saw our hero he was expecting the arrival of a bouncing baby S/36. Alright -- so it's really a teenager, and bouncing it hardly appropriate.... And he was worried about getting documentation and SSP Disks. Here's the news. The system's here -- and I've cleaned out the cobwebs, microvac'ing one card gingerly at a time. I found the maintenance manual -- under the case where IBM put it >from day one. The display station arrived (costing more than the server). Power was applied and two wonderous things happened: First, the lights *didn't* dim. This flat only has a 10A service and the machine's rated at 10A ( not to mention the other beasties sharing the aforementioned amperage). I had visions of that mammoth disk grinding into life while the neighorhood was plunged into darkness. I realize there are three phase 240 V devotee's on this list. I exhort them to understand my newbie thills at this minor first achievement, and not scoff outloud. Second, the silly thing actually IPL'd. I don't of course have a valid account for it. And so I've been hunting for installation media or hacking instructions. I think I've located the latter, but may end up requiring the former anyway. The diagnostic utilities have been partially removed from the fixed disk -- I suspect this was a space saving ploy. So some of the applications required to read the raw disk and seek the password file aren't available to me. For that I will need at least the diagnostic disk. Please volunteer suggestions on acquiring one of those (8" of course). Saddly this was a much as I've achieved. The second effort at an IPL failed -- and I'm still trying to track down the SRC cause. I'm not begging for help on that one just yet, though once again -- the diagnostic disk would be helpful. Please, please volunteer suggestions on acquiring one of those (8" of course). More information will be forthcoming, sometime next weekend -- probably whether anyone cares or not. I figure I'm entitled since at least my babbling is squarely on thread (and who knows, maybe of use to someone browsing through the profit/non-profit/useless classic/dual-athlon posts for a reference to retro-machines someday). ;->~ No that was not an open-flaming-season invitation. Just a good hearted jibe. Your's in 16bit brotherhood, Colin Eby Senior Consultant CSC Consulting PS -- Anyone have a spare left shift key for an IBM P70. I'm afraid I missing one, and this keyboard's somewhat unique to the model. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com

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Wanted: DEC Lisp PAK

by wlewis＠mailbag.com

Longshot, but someone here might have one or know where to find one. I'd like find a DEC Lisp PAK that someone is willing to sell/trade/give me. It seems there is no one at Compaq who is able/willing to assist and they have an IP issue with putting it on the free software list. Hence, transfering a license appears to be the only way to get that software running. Thanks, William -- You better watch out What you wish for; It better be worth it So much to die for. Courtney Love

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Apple II boards

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com] > only things I'm likely to keep will be the PSU's. It might > be well for you to > learn about the Apple-][+ before running out to get various > add-on's, so you > get the "right" stuff as opposed to a wierd assortment of junk. Think so? :) I imagine you're right. My question, though, had more to do with what kind of nifty stuff you can get to hook up to it. I have only worked with relatively "vanilla" Apple IIs, so I have little knowledge in that area. Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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IBM 3101 Dip Switches Configuration

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 24, Doc wrote: > > The problem is that the IBM 3101 don't establish communication > > with the Linux system. The 3101 show one "Line Check 2" message > > that talk about the comm.line, I suppose. The cable used is one > > normal serial cable. > > If by "normal serial cable" you mean a standard port-to-modem cable, > that is most likely your problem. You need to use a null-modem serial > cable with a terminal. That depends *completely* on the terminal. Several even have both DTE- and DCE-wired connectors. My standard rule for dealing with an RS232 in-yer-face is to plug it in without a null modem and see if it works...if it doesn't, then plug in a null modem. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Need source for high current HP type (with dimple) 14 or 16AWG 110vac power cord

by rhblakeman＠kih.net

Need a power cable for the Netserver, they got one with all of the machines they bought for resale so I have to locate one. It's a standard PC type (HP) plug on the server side except that it's got a dimple on the side opposite the angled corners and it's either 16 or 14AWG due to the 12A draw of the server. I also assume it to have a different plug, not sure though. I'm sure that other applications use the same thing with all the heavy servers out there and that someone has an aftermarket source or has a few ratholed with no immenent use for it/them. HP has theirs listd for US as 8120-5395 but is no longer available (go figure - no power cord and you have a useless server). I really don't want to chance grooving a standard 18AWG cord and watching the fire dept as they hose my shop and new server down. I just checked JDR and Jameco - Jameco lists a standard cable at 14AWG but no real picture of the end, just a generic photo/figure. Now it's time to dig out the Mouser and Digikey catalogs - might find the HP end that I need, I have plenty of heavy duty power cables with regular female outlets (some 12AWG) that I can use. In that case I could even wire it direct or to 220 (autoranging/adjusting unit). Have to research a little I guess.

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Is this a IBM RT mouse?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 26, Doc wrote: > Based on the fact that the keyboard cutout of the RT's back panel is > shaped like the (huge) insulator on the interface, and the mouse in the > picture has a (huge) insulator [my terminology fails me here; sorry] > that matches the mouse port's cutout, I vote it's an RT mouse. > > What DO ya call that huge chunk o' rubber right behind the male end, > anyway? The foreskin? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Somebody (or more likely a group of people) need to compile a catalogue >of spare parts. Saying that the idler from a JVC.... video recorder has >the following dimensions (diameter, thickness, tyre width, etc). And that >the motor from a Panasonic CD player is 6V, with the following >dimensions. And so on. So that you can attempt to find parts that will >fit machines that nobody seels spares for any more... I have a "belt checker" from MCM electronics. You place the belt around one pin, then slid the other pin until the belt is sitting between them with no tension. It tells you the size of the belt. Then there is a ruler to measure the width, and a picture chart that shows style (square, round, whatever). When you have all the info, there is a chart on the back with MCM part numbers for the matching belt.... only down side... more often then not, they no longer carry the part listed on their checker... and they don't seem to have a list of compatible parts they DO carry... fortunalty, their master catalog has a list of belts and tires by size. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Need source for high current HP type (with dimple) 14 or 16AWG 110vac power cord

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 27, Russ Blakeman wrote: > Need a power cable for the Netserver, they got one with all of the machines > they bought for resale so I have to locate one. It's a standard PC type (HP) > plug on the server side except that it's got a dimple on the side opposite > the angled corners and it's either 16 or 14AWG due to the 12A draw of the > server. I also assume it to have a different plug, not sure though. I'm sure > that other applications use the same thing with all the heavy servers out > there and that someone has an aftermarket source or has a few ratholed with > no immenent use for it/them. This is a standard high-current IEC power connector. They're used on several models of MicroVAX, several larger Cisco routers, and lots of other things. They shouldn't be too hard to find. Someone who carries Cisco supplies will have them. I think the 7513 uses these, in particular. > I really don't want to chance grooving a standard 18AWG cord and watching > the fire dept as they hose my shop and new server down. I wouldn't worry too much about this. Use an ammeter to check the current draw if you're really concerned...but I have a couple of DEC 4000/400 machines that have these power connectors, and they pull a whopping [measured] 3A. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Fwd: Datapoint 1500 with printer

by jhellige＠earthlink.net

Here's a system that I thought someone might be interested in. I received another email from him that suggested it also had dual 8" drive cabinets with it, as well as including images of it >from a flyer or book. I'd take it in myself but do not have the space for it at the moment. If interested, please reply directly to the sender. I can provide the images to anyone that wants them, as well as his phone number. Jeff >Status: U >Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 20:08:37 -0800 >From: John Valentine <john.valentine(a)verizon.net> >X-Accept-Language: en >To: jhellige(a)earthlink.net >Subject: Datapoint 1500 with printer > >Jeff: > >A friend of mine has a Datapoint 1500 with 160 cps printer. He is >looking for a home for the Datapoint. He was going to put it on ebay, >but we thought we would check the antique computer sites before doing >it. > >Are you interested? He lives in Fairfax, Virginia. > >John Valentine -- Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File http://www.cchaven.com http://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757

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New Finds in Houston

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Well took some time off the job hunt and move to check out some of my old hangouts and found something I have been looking for, it's a working Vectrex in good shape with one controller and no games but the built in one for $25 at a local thrift. I have been watching these go high on eBay and figured I would not be able to get one anytime soon. I also picked up some game cartridges for the 2600, Virtual Boy, Game Gear, Jaguar, and some of the newer machines. The wife is making me hold off on buying until I start working again so I have not gone to any of the auctions here yet. There are 2 auctions here in Houston that you can find good deals at , one is only 2 days a week and the other is everyday. That's it for now keep on computing.

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TSU05 Docs?

by Andreas.Freiherr＠Vishay.com

Hello, does anybody out there have the docs available for the TSU05 controller board used in PDP-11s or VAXes with UNIBUS to connect to the DEC variant TS05 of the Cipher F880? The board is M7455, and I am looking for the meanings of the DIP switches. There must be CSR address and interrupt vector, each made up by several individual switches, but in addition to that, an "extended features" switch and one for "buffering". Thanks in advance! Andreas -- Andreas Freiherr Vishay Semiconductor GmbH, Heilbronn, Germany http://www.vishay.com

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New on Ebay - Worth checking out

by CLeyson＠aol.com

Commodore PET 2001, BBC B and Master, C64, VIC20, C+4, Apple ][GS, Mac SE/30, Amiga 500, Amiga 1200 and Atari 2600 all in one aution. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1327699656

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Any interest in "Uptime: The Disk Monthly" diskettes?

by dan＠ekoan.com

Hello, While looking for 3.5" 720K discs to format on a HP-150 that I bought (yes, I sometimes actually pay money for classic computers, especially if they're Hewlett-Packard) from Bill Sudbrink, I came across a set of diskettes labelled Uptime: The Disk Monthly Volume 2 Number 1, for instance, is copyright 1986 by Viking Technologies out of Newport, Rhode Island, and has the following table of contents: Loan Calculator, Seasoned Clip Art, Stepping Out Demo, TermWorks, 3D TicTacToe, Hacker Interview, Biorhythm, Gone Fishin' DA, Little Black Book DA and Preview. I've got at least five diskettes with pre-printed labels, another half dozen with typewritten labels (e.g. "Uptime 2.8") and one labeled "The Best of Uptime, Brought to you by Macworld". Is there any interest or reason to save these, or can I go ahead and reformat them without fear of losing something someone on this list might want? Cheers, Dan www.decodesystems.com

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Is this a IBM RT mouse?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 26, 21:10, Doc wrote: > What DO ya call that huge chunk o' rubber right behind the male end, > anyway? EMI filter. An interference suppressor consisting of a ferrite tube clamped onto the cable to reduce RF radiation. But I liked Dave's answer too. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Opus5 400PM/8000

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I have 2 150MB DC6150 tape cartridges from Opus Systems Label 1: _________ Opus5 400PM/8000 5.3.2 Rev Q4 P/N 900-00269-001 # sysadm installpkg or load during the initial installation All SW Packages #1 of 1 --------- Label 2: ________ X Version 11 400PM/8000 Rev A2 P/N 900-00223-002 # sysadm installpkg All X11 Packages #1 of 1 -------- What the heck is it? Doc

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Favorite 5.25's

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 26, John Allain wrote: > Revealing my stupidity: Can any/all do RX50 > formatting? I realize one thing, that HD writes > on LD drives are suboptimal. Well, RX50s are 80-track drives, so a 360K drive won't do it...other than that, most should, I would think. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Need manual URL/hardcopy for HP Netserver LX Pro 6/200 server

by out2sea00＠yahoo.com

Russ -- Let me know if you need any other resources for this system. We're still using this model -- after four years of co-habitation, I couldn't know them much better. We have four or five of these, and one ultra-rare LXr-Pro8. I get around to doing a fresh build on them every 4 months or so. That's because they're part of our benchmarking equipment pool. So they get reconfigured very regularly. The performance engineering folks (myself included) use them. And they certainly do perform well, even if they are bordering on classic status. I understand you have a source for manuals already. So anything else you need, please let me know. One word of advice. I'd leave the RAM in. It's the RAM that keeps them running like much newer equipment, since there aren't that many applications that'll peg a quad, even an old one, they'll run best with everything resident in main. Second piece of advice, put a better video card in. There's an embedded one -- but it's a flicker-fest at anything higher than 800x600. Colin Eby Senior Consultant CSC Consulting __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

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Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by vze2mnvr＠verizon.net

Hello Pat, If you read these links, it gives other "perspectives" on the issue of sniping. I guess you don't like sniping, because you would like to get the best price you could for your items. This we do respect. http://www.geocities.com/phillipcreed/myths.html http://www.geocities.com/phillipcreed/ http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/supersniper/ But the ones who complain that they didn't win an item because someone sniped them, we have no respect for what so ever. No one ever lost an item because someone out bid them. They lost the item because they didn't bid the high bid utilizing the "proxy" bidding system. Period. These are people that want to blame others for their own failures which they themselves brought about. They seem to act like the world owes them something, when in reality, their failure is brought on because they are too cheap and selfish. They want what other people have, but are unwilling to give much of themselves to get it. A note to all. You'll win whatever item you bid on, if you put in the high bid while the auction is running, regardless of when that bid is placed. As for the ones that complain about prices of goods being sold on eBay as being so high, these people have been deemed unsuitable for employment in our organization for being too ignorant of commerce and economics. It's indicative of serious flaws in personality, attitude, and intelligence. Generally things on eBay often sell for a third to an eighth ( and sometimes even 1/25 ) of what they are actually worth, and we have hard data to prove that fact. So any that end up out of work, just know, we'll learn more about what you're really like by reading the messages you've posted, than we'd ever learn in an interview. And we do research prospective applicants in this manner. Thanks Google. Pat Barron wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Ian Koller wrote: > > I looked at it, then checked your "me" page, then gave up. > > > > If you want auctions that automatically extend, you have > > that option as a seller on Yahoo. > > I'm sorry that put you off; I've been thinking about toning down or > eliminating that section, but I haven't done anything about it yet because > this is a really sore point with me - it's particularly aimed at people > who run "outbid-bots", that track auctions and place bids in (literally) > the final 15 or 30 seconds of the auction, to ensure that the previous > high bidder has no chance to rebid. > > In a "real" auction, the auction generally continues until activity > ceases; if that's doable on Yahoo! Auctions (like the old Onsale.com > system, in which a bid in the last 5 minutes of an auction automatically > extended it), then that might be a better option for me. Though I haven't > listed anything there for a long time, because I've had the impression > that very few people use Yahoo! Auctions (as opposed to eBay).... > > Thanks, > --Pat.

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For:Pro's Only....

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

If you got that, I'm probably talking to you.... Is anybody interested in buying/trading for - Hardware: 1 Fortune Systems video console 1 Fortune Systems ASCII terminal 1 Fortune Systems keyboard 2 Fortune Systems floppy drives?? Full-height 5.25" with very strange latch 1 2 lb. bag of misc. cables 1 256k 32:16 RAM expansion, tagged defective Documentation: 1 For:Pro for 32:16 Installation Instructions 1 Introductuion to For:Pro 1 Fortune Systems Tape Streamer User's Guide {1} 1 Using Fortune Terminals 1 Fortune Interactive Terminal Emulator 1 Fortune:Word Operators' Guide 1 Fortune:Word Reference Guide 1 Fortune:Multiplan Professional Tools 5.25" Floppy Disks: 1-of-1 Fortune Diagnostic Disk {2} Process & Instrumentation Design Support Diskette v4.0 3-of-? For:Pro Cold-Boot {2} 3-of-3 Single-User For:Pro Release Level 1.7/J3 1-of-1 Multiuser For:Pro (Domestic) System Tools Series 1-of-1 Meet Your Fortune System Training and Education Series 1-of-1 Language Development Tools System Tools Series 1-of-1 C System Tools Series 1-of-1 For:Pro 1.7 Upgrade System Tools Series 1-of-1 Fortune Word - Promotional Software Not For Resale Release level 1.0/E3 1-of-1 Fortune Word - Promotional Software Not For Resale Release level 1.1/E3 1-of-1 Multiplan - Promotional Software Not For Resale 1-of-1 Multiplan Master - Promotional Software Not For Resale 1-of-1 Business Basic - Promotional Software Not For Resale 2-of-2 General Ledger - Promotional Software Not For Resale 1-of-1 C - GKS Beta Test Release level 1.0d/? 1-of-1 Tektronix (R) 401X Emulator 15-or-20 Unlabelled or illegibly labelled floppies. Apparently related to the Fortune stuff. {1} Software Documentation in box which should, but doesn't, contain 5.25" disks {2} P&ID floppy with printed or typed label. Label is identical to the Fortune Systems floppies except for the logo. {3} These are BASF floppies with handwritten labels Unless otherwise noted, all floppies appear to be the "official" distribution, with the Fortune Systems logo on the label. Floppies are NOT in great shape, mostly distorted and warped from heat or moisture. I'm guessing they're probably readable, about *once*. I'm selling/trading ALL this as-is. I don't have a 32:16 system unit (everything but...), so it's all untested. ***** Just so there are no misconceptions or misrepresentations, I am NOT a charitable organization. I spend a crapload of time and money on this hobby, and anytime I can make it turn a profit, I will leap for joy. ***** Doc

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 26, Doc wrote: > > The foreskin? > > DUDE! you made me scare my cat! > > Rolling around laughing, with VERY irate kitty glaring at me.... Sorry, couldn't resist. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Any interest in "Uptime: The Disk Monthly" diskettes?

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Is there any interest or reason to save these, or can I go ahead and reformat >them without fear of losing something someone on this list might want? If any of them contain the game "Iggy Igopolis", I would like a copy of the game (it was shareware, so you can safely just email me the game, I don't need the whole disk). My floppy with it has gone bad (it robbed a 7-11)... and I have not yet been successful in finding a new copy (but I did track down Captain Magneto which made me very happy) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Is this a IBM RT mouse?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Someone mentioned the RT mouse has two round buttons. I have had this mouse in my collection and have been wondering what it was for. Http://members.aol.com/innfogra/IBMMS1.JPG The connector is a 6 pin square. Can anyone ID it? If someone is interested it is available FSOT. Please contact me off list at whoagiii(a)aol.com. Paxton Astoria, OR I can supply a JPEG if there are any problems with the URL.

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Netscape (was Re: PayPal = payola?)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 26, Bryan Pope wrote: > > My S/390's *hard disk* weighs *20 times* as much as me. 8-) > > O!.. Ok.. Do not drop them on your foot. > > These aren't the ones that are over a foot wide in a clear plastic? case > with a handle in the centre to carry or lock them in place? That would be *old* mainframe technology. This is *new* mainframe technology. What's that array, Sridhar? 2 or 4TB? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Interact Model One cassette beg

by passerm＠umkc.edu

I was wondering if any of my fine fellow listers might have cassette software (especially BASIC, but would love to have anything) for the Interact Model One. Having acquired one of these, I'm interested in making it do something besides say "PRESS 'L' TO LOAD TAPE." If anyone has cassettes they'd be willing to dub for me, I would be thrilled to repay you in gratitude, some piece of 80's micro hardware or software _you_ might be looking for, or, of course, plain old cash for your time and tape. --Michael Passer

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by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Http://members.aol.com/innfogra/IBMMS1.JPG > >The connector is a 6 pin square. Can anyone ID it? PCjr? Although, I am sure that is not the only IBM machine to carry square ports. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by CLeyson＠aol.com

In a message dated 26/01/02 14:22:32 Pacific Standard Time, ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk writes: > HP85s have 2 ways of chewing tapes, both fixable (normally). If the > optical EOT sensor fails, then it'll run the tape off the spool. Often > just cleaning the sensor will fix it. If not, then the electronics is not > that complicated IIRC. > > The other (and more common) way is for the drive roller to run to glue. I > have heard that silicone rubber tubing of the right diamter will fix > this. As I've got some other HP machines where this has happened (9825, > 9831, etc) I am going to have to investigate the exact methods of repair. > It's the old "drive roller turned to glue" problem. I need to fix a 9825 as well. I tried a few TV/HI-FI repair shops and asked "where can I get one of these or something similar ?" My question was followed by "Have you got a part Number ? " Grrrrrr :-( Chris

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Is this a IBM RT mouse?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Innfogra(a)aol.com wrote: > Http://members.aol.com/innfogra/IBMMS1.JPG That looks like the RT PC mouse that I remember. I believe (based on my inventory) that the IBM part number is 00F2383. -Frank McConnell

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SOL video monitor

by r.stek＠snet.net

I have a ProcTech pricelist dated January 1, 1978. They offer a Panasonic PT-872 TV-Video Monitor for $199. Bob Stek Saver of Lost Sols

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Non-profit reselling

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com] > I can FEEL the love around here. Yep. Sooo.... I didn't tell everyone about my new VT131 yet. That's the ticket -- how about those classic computers? ;) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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BYAD CP/M disks

by donm＠cts.com

> > They are yours. What is your address? Paul, I received them - exceedingly well packaged - in yesterday's mail. Thank you very much. As a matter of possible interest, they contain the operating system (CP/M-2.20) and other associated programs for the BYAD PC/XT Z-80 card. Disk format is same as the old 8 x 512 sector PC-CP/M-86. - don

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6150 keyboard

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Well, I got irritated with the keyboard (ever try to use vi without the Escape key) and jerked it apart. Very gently. 1) I'm certain that it's re-badged OEM, not IBM-built. All the screws, internal and external, are Phillips. 2) It's not a double membrane, it's rubber cups over a PCB, with foil inserts in the caps. The traces on the PCB were covered with unidentified goop. *Only* under the Escape key. I dunno. 3) It works now. 4) Thanks, Tony. Even though this one bore no resemblance to your instructions, sometimes *thinking* you have a clue is as good as the real thing. On to TCP/IP, NFS, and maybe a game or two of hangman. Speaking of hangman, is it just me, or is the NetBSD port of hangman purely evil? Come on, now. "Prolegomenous?" Seriously, I've played hangman on a bunch of different Unices, and the recent NetBSD hangman is by far the hardest I've ever seen. Doc

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Sniing was Re: Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 04:28 PM 1/26/2002 -0600, Tothwolf wrote: > I do have a problem >with wannabe dealers messing up the local auctions by bidding things up >higher then they are worth, and then trying unsuccessfully to sell them at >extremely high prices on ebay. You haven't been to enough auctions. You'll get over it. :-) - John

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Wanted: manual for Toshiba T4800CT docking station

by pb＠Colorado.EDU

Hi. I'm wondering if anyone has any documentation for the docking station for a Toshiba T4800CT laptop. I'm embarassed to admit that I can't even figure out how to access the drive bay on the station. For those of you with extensive collections (or access to extensive documentation libraries), the part number for the docking station is PA2701U, and it's called a "Desk Station IV." Thanks in advance. PB Schechter

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Sniing was Re: Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 02:07 PM 1/26/2002 -0600, Tothwolf wrote: >What I am saying, is that I often see idiot wannabe dealers overpay for >*junk* at the local auctions, not even knowing what they are buying, all >the while thinking they can make a fast buck off of "suckers" on ebay. This behavior is self-limiting due to finite pocketbooks. We can't make the poor go away, and we can't prevent poor business sense. >Again, what I am getting at is ebay itself has spawned a whole new >generation of get-rich-quick idiots who buy up stuff at local auctions for >inflated prices and try to sell it at an even higher price on ebay. And that's all because you *can* make money buying low and selling high, depending on exactly what it is that you can become expert enough to acquire and sell. There's been plenty of times when I've bought something for $100 or less and sold it for $1000 or more. I may be getting old, but that's exciting. - John

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by CLeyson＠aol.com

In a message dated 25/01/02 18:11:34 Pacific Standard Time, vaxzilla(a)jarai.org writes: > > > Cmon, what could possibly be less valuable than an Apple ][+? A C64 > > > perhaps... > Apple ][ are not that common in the UK. To me an HP85 that chews tapes would be less valuable than an Apple ][ Chris

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Z-100 serial ports

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Please see below. > From: Don Maslin <donm(a)cts.com> > Date: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:55 PM > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Glen Goodwin wrote: > > > Although I have (I believe) all of the manuals for the Zenith Z-100 (not > > Z-100 pc), I cannot find any reference to the serial ports on this box. > > > > What are the addresses of the DTE and DCE ports? I'd like to write some > > assembly code to access these devices (under CP/M-86) but want to control > > them at the hardware level instead of making BDOS calls. > The overlay for MEX (CP/M-80) says that the modem port - presumably > DTE - is 0D8H. It does not mention the DCE port. Do both processors > share the same seriak and parallel ports? > - don 2nd question first -- yes, the same ports are used regardless of the MPU. 1st question -- found some info in the 2nd manual under "programming data" (I was looking for *hardware" data!): 2661 Serial A (Printer Port) 0E8-0EB 2661 Serial B (Modem Port) 0EC-0EF Now I need to know exactly what the control and data addresses for these ports are. Maybe the first number is data and the second control, or the other way around? I'm not familiar with the 2661 -- any pointers? Hey -- I'll bet Tony knows! Thanks again, Glen 0/0

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LEAST valuable collectibles (was: Apple II boards

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 24, 15:34, Jeffrey S. Sharp wrote: > Lawrence LeMay said: > > Cmon, what could possibly be less valuable than an Apple ][+? A C64 > > perhaps... > > Old printer ribbons. No, you can re-ink printer ribbons :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Sniing was Re: Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 09:09 PM 1/25/2002 -0600, Tothwolf wrote: >I was quite sick when I saw the seller trying to sell these off to >uneducated buyers on ebay for $50 each. If someone had indeed bought one >at that price, they would have been tempted to try to repair it when it >did not work. People qualified to work on these units would tend to be >educated buyers and not even consider paying $50 for a dead unit. What are you suggesting? That a warning label might've saved their lives, or just saved them from parting from their cash? Or that the auctioneer's job is to accurately represent the state of each gizmo, as opposed to saying "all sales as-is and final", which is far easier and still manages to attract plenty of buyers. (This reminds me of the old marketing joke "If Company X was in charge of Kentucky Fried Chicken, they'd call the product "Hot Dead Chicken." Just to keep it on-topic, I know this joke was repeated quite often in the Commodore market over the years.) The whole point of an auction is that it's a good way to maximize profit while making a big pile of junk disappear. Evaluating the goods (accurately or professionally) and warning the buyers about nitpicks isn't profitable. Maybe someone buys dead UPSes to recover the lead in the batteries, who knows. And auctions are great fun for game theorists and economists, many of whom have made careers and won gold medals for determining nifty phenomena such as the way that the winner tends to overpay. - John

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RT 6150 Lives! (Long!)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 26, SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com wrote: > > Wouldn't it be easier to run diags? > > It might, but I don't have any. The big pile of RT disks that I got > from BSD Bob were mistakenly left in a storage locker in Maryland, and > I won't be able to get to them for at least another month. :-( >> > > I think I have a diagnostice floppy somewhere that I found in a stack of > unrelated floppies. Talk about serendipity! I guess regular old diskcopy > would work on them. Doc put some images up on his FTP server for me. Thanks for the thought, though. :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Probably OT : Atari anti-aircraft game....

by jos.mar＠bluewin.ch

I don't know if it is valuable and/or collectible, but for those interested in old games consoles : a complete looking 1975 Atari anti-aircraft game is available at a local Salvation Army shop. (Local is : Zurich, Switzerland . jos Dreesen

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Craftsman (was: Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>It was quite a shock a few years ago, when I started seeing Craftsman >tools for sale at OSH (Orchard Supply Hardware) OSH is a Sears company, so is I believe "Village Hardware", they are their Home Depot competition stores. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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6150 keyboard

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/26/2002 3:39:59 AM Eastern Standard Time, vance(a)ikickass.org writes: << > Well, I got irritated with the keyboard (ever try to use vi without > the Escape key) and jerked it apart. Very gently. > > 1) I'm certain that it's re-badged OEM, not IBM-built. All the screws, > internal and external, are Phillips. IBM's keyboards were always built by Lexmark. Recently (a few years ago), Lexmark spun off their keyboard operation, which was swalllowed up by Unicomp. This keyboard was built before IBM spun off Lexmark, which means it was built by IBM. > 2) It's not a double membrane, it's rubber cups over a PCB, with foil > inserts in the caps. The traces on the PCB were covered with > unidentified goop. *Only* under the Escape key. I dunno. The mechanism in IBM keyboards is called a "buckling spring mechanism". >> I've two RT keyboards. One is buckling spring and the other has quiet keys and seems like a cheaper version. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

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RT 6150 Lives! (Long!)

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/25/2002 11:30:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, mcguire(a)neurotica.com writes: << On January 25, Doc wrote: > > I think there might be a tape controller board of some sort (with no > > drive) in mine. I will crack it open and find out. Do you know what > > the FRU number would be on the 6157? > > Wouldn't it be easier to run diags? It might, but I don't have any. The big pile of RT disks that I got from BSD Bob were mistakenly left in a storage locker in Maryland, and I won't be able to get to them for at least another month. :-( >> I think I have a diagnostice floppy somewhere that I found in a stack of unrelated floppies. Talk about serendipity! I guess regular old diskcopy would work on them. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

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BBC Micro

by CLeyson＠aol.com

I recently stumbled upon some schematics for a reverse engineered BBC Master Video ULA. Dammed if I can find the URL. Anybody seen these schematics ? Chris

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Comark

by alanjones＠pgen.net

Can anyone help with a circuit diagram for a Comark 1905 insulation tester? makers won't help. Alan Jones

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OT? Yahoo Free Listing Day

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Franchuk [mailto:bfranchuk@jetnet.ab.ca] > Now where all the female programer types when you want them? :) Very difficult to find. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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QFP soldering

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Richard Cini wrote... So, here's the stupid question...how do I solder these things? Do I hold the iron parallel or perpendicular to the package leads? The board is pre-tinned, but I should I also tin the QFP leads? Neither. The best way to home solder these things is to use solder paste and a toaster oven, there's an article on www.seattlerobotics.org on how to do this. If you must use a soldering iron use a large bit (4.5 to 6 mm) and run along the edge of the tinned section, not quite touching the pins, and allow the solder to wick into the joints. Don't worry about solder bridges, these can be removed later with solder wick and a good flux. If you make a complete mess of it remove the chip using a hot air gun then clean the board with solder wick removing any left over flux with solvent and try again. Also use a soldering iron of at least 45W with a temperature controlled bit. The easiest way to practice is with the chips on scrap PC motherboards ... see they do have a use 8^)= Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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RT 6150 Lives! (Long!)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 25, Doc wrote: > > > Wouldn't it be easier to run diags? > > > > It might, but I don't have any. The big pile of RT disks that I got > > from BSD Bob were mistakenly left in a storage locker in Maryland, and > > I won't be able to get to them for at least another month. :-( > > ftp://ftp.dementia.org/pub/rt/diags.[1-3].gz > ^^^^^ list-box... > dd floppy images. Ahhhhhh, most excellent. Thanks! :-) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 25, Doc wrote: > > I think there might be a tape controller board of some sort (with no > > drive) in mine. I will crack it open and find out. Do you know what > > the FRU number would be on the 6157? > > Wouldn't it be easier to run diags? It might, but I don't have any. The big pile of RT disks that I got >from BSD Bob were mistakenly left in a storage locker in Maryland, and I won't be able to get to them for at least another month. :-( -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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More E&S Research...

by root＠diablonet.net

Hi everyone! I've been doing a little bit more research on this strange Evans and Sutherland computer that turned up at the University of Michigan property disposition warehouse, and I thought I'd mention some of it here in case anyone were interested. I was doing a little more determined Web-surfing, and, as far as I can tell, this machine was not an ES-3, but an ESV-3. With that information in hand, I turned up some of the following information. * These machines were based upon the MIPS R3000 microprocessor. They seem to have been as powerful (at least processor wise) as an SGI Personal IRIS 4D/35 or a lowball (R3000) SGI Indigo. I'm still quite curious as to their graphics capabilities, though. How would these have compared to the Elan graphics system that SGI would have been selling around this time? How about GTX/GTXB/RealityEngine graphics on the larger Power Series and Crimson machines? Any ideas? * They seemed to commonly have between 32 and 64 megabytes of RAM, and between 500 to 1000 megabytes of hard disk storage installed (probably) as standard. * They ran an operating system called ES/OS, which as far as I can tell was some sort of UNIX derivative that also ran the X Window System. It doesn't look like it got much farther than version 2.x. * They seem to have been quite popular in the chemical modeling field, and were also used in X-Ray Crystallography (sp?). So, I'll see what I can do about going back there and picking it up perhaps sometime next week. Unfortunately, the University wants $100 for it, and as I said earlier, the system is lacking the keyboard, mouse, and monitor (and I imagine that these do not show up very often), so I'll still probably be deliberating this purchase a little bit. Interestingly enough, I found a mailing list message in Google's cache (circa 1999) soliciting a source for replacement E&S ESV systems from the University here as one had broken... I wonder if this was it! :) If it is, it sure gives one a feel for the speed of the property disposition pipeline! Ah, yeah, I'll take a look at how much they want for that DG dual floppy drive as well. I wouldn't imagine it's going anywhere quickly. :) Kind regards, Sean -- Sean Caron http://www.diablonet.net scaron(a)engin.umich.edu root(a)diablonet.net

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VAX enthusiasm taken to the next level

by vaxzilla＠jarai.org

I haven't seen this sent to the list yet even though it's a bit old at this stage. It's on-topic for certain, but if you have any issues w.r.t. vintage and contemporary computer erotica, I suggest you skip over this message and move on to the next. http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?itemid=19252878 In some recent discussions with Kibo, we'd agreed that any fetish which can be conceived by human intelligence, most probably exists. The above represents one I speculated would exist, but I think this qualifies as the first example of it I've seen. I've read about the student "art film" done with SAIL and an "attachment" to a robotic arm that system controlled. Also of note, I did e-mail her to ask what OS she was running on the VAX. Apparently the system isn't hers (points deducted). She doesn't know what OS it has on it (points deducted), and she believes it isn't even an operational MicroVAX-II (even more points deducted). I mean, sure, having the naked woman option with your VAX is great and all, but if the VAX doesn't actually work then what's the point? I believe she programs as well, so this is relevant to one of the other threads here about female programmers... And I do mean it's RELEVANT though certainly not representative-- at least not based on my experiences. -brian.

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Apple IIc+ boot disk for DOS3.3

by JHat385375＠aol.com

I saw your message about an boot disk dos for apple computer i have a power computer that apple own my boss try to load another os on to the computer and now it does not power up with a system on it can you tell how to get a boot disk.

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RT 6150 Lives! (Long!)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 25, SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com wrote: > Mine runs AIX 2.2.1, but just in mono and I need a 6157 controller card so I > can use my tape drive. I think my RT has a 286 development board in it and I > have the software to run it still wrapped up. I might have to power it up and > see what i've been missing. I think there might be a tape controller board of some sort (with no drive) in mine. I will crack it open and find out. Do you know what the FRU number would be on the 6157? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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RT 6150 Lives! (Long!)

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 1/25/2002 6:28:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, mcguire(a)neurotica.com writes: << On January 25, Doc Shipley wrote: > There are numerous refernces to the use of IDE drives in the RT > newsgroup. Although AIX actually will install in 70MB, it leaves little > room to play in. Plus, that one E70 alone was warming my house and > whining loudly enough to make my cats cry. Oh wow...I didn't know you could do that. I have a 6150 here (from BSD Bob) that I'd love to stick some more disk in. I will have to investigate this further. :) > I've been offered a copy of 4.4BSD/Romp for it, which I may try out. > I'd like to try AOS, but I can't find the full distribution, just the > tools, updates, and diagnostic utilities. I'm running 4.4BSD on mine. It's a really neat machine. I just got a megapel board for it (thanks Gordon!) and now I need to find a tube and a mouse. >> Mine runs AIX 2.2.1, but just in mono and I need a 6157 controller card so I can use my tape drive. I think my RT has a 286 development board in it and I have the software to run it still wrapped up. I might have to power it up and see what i've been missing. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

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RT 6150 Lives! (Long!)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On January 25, Doc Shipley wrote: > There are numerous refernces to the use of IDE drives in the RT > newsgroup. Although AIX actually will install in 70MB, it leaves little > room to play in. Plus, that one E70 alone was warming my house and > whining loudly enough to make my cats cry. Oh wow...I didn't know you could do that. I have a 6150 here (from BSD Bob) that I'd love to stick some more disk in. I will have to investigate this further. :) > I've been offered a copy of 4.4BSD/Romp for it, which I may try out. > I'd like to try AOS, but I can't find the full distribution, just the > tools, updates, and diagnostic utilities. I'm running 4.4BSD on mine. It's a really neat machine. I just got a megapel board for it (thanks Gordon!) and now I need to find a tube and a mouse. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Sniing was Re: Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Hi Guys, Can I throw in my 2 cents worth? ><snip> > >Hmmm. I guess then an xBox being sold at a price above the MSRP is not >'too high' of a price. Apparntly not. I've seen the same thing at flea-markets and other "live" events. BUT one of the things that affect this is the fact that the MSRP aren't the same eveywhere. I used to collect HP calculators but I almost never bought any from E-bay. Why? Because calculators that sold new in this country (USA) for say $250 sold for twice as much in Europe and other places simply due to the import tariffs that their countries charge. As result, I might be willing to pay say $150 for the same model used but someone in Europe is happy to pay $300 or more. Well above the MSRP. In short there are lots of factors that affect the price more than MSRP. It all goes back to the law of supply and demand. Where HP 9825s are common and cheap in this country, they're rare and expensive in Europe. Or the example of dead UPS's being sold for $50 a >pop. Did you ever stop to consider that the buyer might know somehing that you don't? Perhaps he is knowledgeable on that model and knows that 90% of the "dead" ones can be fixed by changing an internal fuse even when the manufacturer claims that "there are no user serviceable parts inside". Or a CISC AS/400 being sold for $140k. Sorry, but a lot of the time >things are available for much lower prices outside of eBay than they are >on eBay. I COMPLETELY agree! My personal opinion: E-bay is for people that are too lazy to search out there own bargains. Example: I've found TWO Altairs in the last three years. Both of them were FREE. OTOH I could have bought one from E-bay and paid a rediculous price for it. Don't get me wrong, there are some great bargains to be had on E-bay but I'm sick and tired of people complaining about E-bay prices. It just like shopping at Sears, if you think their price is too high THEN DON'T SHOP THERE. Ignorant people go around buying and selling things for much >more than they're worth on eBay. Wrong! It takes at least two bidders to push the price up. Therefore at least two people think that it's worth that much. I wouldn't pay $100,000+ for a Rolls-Royce but that down't mean they aren't "worth" it. > >I personally have no problem with bid sniping. I've done it myself a >number of times. The problem lies in the fact that some people do not >have enough FINANCIAL RESOURCES to be bidding 2x what something is worth >on eBay. That's fact of life, Get used to it! That's like complaining because you can't afford a Rolls-Royce and someone else can. As a college student that has just been laid off from my job at >Purdue (!) I know what it's like. Sure, there are a lot of good deals to >be had on eBay, but there are also plenty of bad deals. But no one is forcing you to buy those bad deals. So take the good ones and leave the rest. That's how you "win" on E-bay. Joe

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VAXstation newbie

by alan.pearson＠cramer.com

After 13 years off I'm finally going to get to play with a VAX again (the last system I used was an 11/785!) - I've found a VAXstation 3100, and it should be landing on my doorstep in the next week :) Happy happy happy! Finding a VAX that's small enough for "Al's Toy Barn" hasn't been easy, they don't seem to be that common here in the UK (UK classiccmpers correct me if I'm wrong, and please point me in the right direction ;-)). A couple of "newbie" VAXish questions: The box I'm getting is just that - no monitor/keyboard/mouse etc - I've read that you can use the printer port for the console so I'm planning using that. I'm not bothered about using DECwindows, console is just fine thanks ;-) Since I don't have any "real" terminals I've got various options.. the most likely is to use my ST's VT52 emulator (got to keep it "classic"!) - anyone tried this? Other options are to use the TERMINAL package on one of my BBC Masters, hook it up to the Linux box, or use the Windows terminal emulator. I guess I need a null modem cable to hook the 3100 up to whatever I'm using for the terminal, right? There's no backup media for the OS - any ideas where I'd get VMS on floppies? (It has a floppy drive, no CD). Or do I need to hook up a CD? Also, does anyone know what version of VMS shipped with the 3100s? Cheers Al.

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RS M100 wanted

by mhstein＠canada.com

I have a friend in AZ who is a sometime writer and would love to have an AlphaSmart: http://www.streettech.com/archives_hardware/alphaSmartPro.html Alas, her current finances aren't up to it, and it occurred to me that, especially after the recent bunch of free M100/102s, someone on this list might have a spare one they'd like to contribute and make an old woman happy in the meantime (good thing she doesn't read this list or she'd kill me). Anybody? And maybe a null modem cable to let her transfer .do files to a PC? mike

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Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by pat＠transarc.ibm.com

I happened across one of these recently, and have no real interest in Microdata. So, I've listed the thing on eBay, check it out if interested... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1326034396 --Pat.

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REALLY Re: Mastersport 386SX

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Dave Mabry <dmabry(a)mich.com> > I used to have the computer he was referring to in the original post, a > Zenith MastersPort SX and it's AC adapter was an inline variety. Cords > on both ends. I never would have guessed it being called a wart. Having never seen the transformer/power supply/wart/whatever, I didn't know it was of the inline variety. Does anyone have the specs on this thing??? Glen 0/0

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Sniing was Re: Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by CLeyson＠aol.com

In a message dated 25/01/02 12:57:14 Pacific Standard Time rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com writes: <snip> > But no one is forcing you to buy those bad deals. So take the good ones > and leave the rest. That's how you "win" on E-bay. > > Joe I totally agree with Joe. There are some nice bargains to be had and some truly awful crap. So far I think I'm breaking even on the bargain and crap score. As the Ebay novelty wears off I've learnt to more choosy in what I buy. Over time you learn who are the good guys, the re-sellers, collectors or enthusiasts making an honest living, and the bad guys who just jump on the band wagon and push up the prices. If you really want something there are lots of places to look besides Ebay. Chris

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SOL video monitor

by CLeyson＠aol.com

No. But I have a Panasonic WV-CM140 monitor if that rings any bells. Colour monitor composite video only, no RGB. Chris

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Sniing was Re: Microdata "Microprogramming Handbook"

by CLeyson＠aol.com

In a message dated 25/01/02 14:31:21 Pacific Standard Time, bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca writes: > Well tell me, I would like to know what other on-line places are there > to look for older equipment. > BTW, I'm located in the UK so Ebay.co.uk is very poor in terms of choice. 'Ebay dot com' on the other hand is a totally different ball game so for you it is like one stop shopping. As an example - on one day there were thirty (yes three zero) items listed under "Test Equipment" in the UK and 1500 on Ebay.com. Sometimes I go hunting for RF test gear and to be honest you guys on the other side of the pond are spoilt. The same applies to vintage computer equipment. All you get on UK Ebay is Spectrums, C64's and Atari 1600's, mostly games I must add. There is a good selection of Acorn hardware but that's about it. Early SBC stuff is rare (KIM and AIM65 etc). DEC and HP hardly ever appear on ebay.co.uk Many electronic test equipment dealers have surplus computer equipment for sale, especially in the US and Canada. It all depends on what you are looking for. I've often found that dealers haven't got the time to keep their websites up to date and often don't list many items. If I'm looking for a particular piece of hardware or perhaps a service manual I find that an email sometimes gets a favorable response. Google is another option, and I often spend hours following links to sites that may have an item I'm looking for. In fact I sometimes spend hours following link to loads of other interesting sites just for the hell of it. It's like being let loose in a library for the very first time :-) I hope that's put things into perspective Ben. BTW if I was happy paying the postage and import duties then Ebay.com would be one stop shopping for me. Post Script: For books try Abebooks.com Best Regards Chris

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