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Working with useful computers (was: What's your specialty?)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com] > On February 6, R. D. Davis wrote: > > of curiosity, how many others here absolutely refuse to work for an > > employer requiring one to work with those confounded > annoyances called > > Micro$oft products? > Me. I don't have that luxury, unfortunately, but if I did, I'd seriously consider it. Note that I said "consider," because despite their unceasingly annoying me with microshaft crap, I still like my current employer pretty well. (That's really saying something -- take it from somebody who insists on having no microsoft products on his systems, to the point of having moral questions about installing OS/2. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Anybody interested in an Intel Series II MDS?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

A friend of mine has a chance to pick up several of Intel Series II MDSs, these are the big blue boxs that many people are familar with. But there's one codition, it's a package deal and he has to take ALL or none. A quick check indicated that they all power up but nothing else. There are no docs or software included but he and I both have docs and software for these and are willing to make copies available at cost. I don't know what sapecific model these are but the Series II machines have AT LEAST an 8080 CPU, an integrated CRT monitor, a detachable keyboard, a built-in single density 8" floppy drive, 32k of RAM and a monitor program in ROM. Again this is the minimal machine but they typically have a lot more memory and frequently have been upgraded to double density drives. BTW the original DRI distribution disk for CPM is the same format and it should ran with no modifications on a MDS with SD drives. If the drives have been upgraded to DD then you be able to get CPM in that format and it should run without modification. It's safe to say that no developement system can run on 32k, so it's a good bet that they'll have more RAM. Hell, even ISIS needs more RAM than that! Also all the ones that I've seen have been upgraded to an 8085 CPU and many also have an 8086 co-procesor card so there's a good chance of getting one that's been upgraded. Anyway, I want to know if anyone else is interested in buying one of these. The price should be less than $100 plus shipping. I believe that they're located in the Detroit area. E-mail me directly ASAP and let me know if you're interested. Joe

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cdburners

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 03:33 PM 2/7/2002 -0500, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: >ISO9660 CD's are limited to containing filenames of no more >than 32 characters in length. At least, everytime I try to >burn a CD, those web pages I've saved that have filenames >that are longer result in a dialog box that requires me to >either type an alternate name or accept the munged version >that it creates itself. If you're gathering files on a Windows PC, and using PC-based burning software, they all support the "Joliet" extensions which allow 255-char paths. Maybe you should tell us which platforms and packages you're using. - John

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RJ45 to serial DE-9

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 6, 1:16, Chris wrote: > >I thought I had one, but I don't. Someone out there have/know where to find > >a cable with an RJ-45 plug on one side and a female DE-9 (DB-25 okay but > >prefer DE-9) on the other? This is to plug my Commodore into the serial port > >on my Lantronix EPS4+1 and attempt to get it on the network by reverse > >Telnet. > > I have seen RJ45 to DE9 adaptors before. I have one someplace, it came > with my DSL router. But I have seen them for sale at computer shows > before, and would think they should be readily available at any decent > electronics or network parts dealer. I think Rat Shack sells a roll your > own pinout one that goes to a DB25 (I know they have an RJ14, 6 pin to > DB25). Get a roll-your-own. There are several pinouts for RJ45-DE9, so if you buy one ready-made, you're going to end up muttering to Murphy. They're usually in the form of a shell made to hold an RJ45 socket, which comes with 8 wires connected, each with a pin (or socket pin) crimped on the end, ready to insert into the DE9 body that comes with it. They're also cheap, less than 1 UKP here (about $1.00) from CPC. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Computer Museum of America on Tuesday night's PBS NOVA (fwd)

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>$62 a month is a ripoff price. Unless you meant Digital Cable. Nope... plain old analog cable tv. They really bend their customers over around here... which is why every day on my drive home, I see more mini dish's popping up on people's roofs. They don't even offer Cable Modem service for most of the area yet -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Newsflash: Cards

by CARL.P.HIRSCH＠sargentlundy.com

Free registration required - I believe cypherpunks/cypherpunks still works. -carl Tothwolf <tothwolf@concentric. To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> net> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Newsflash: Cards owner-classiccmp@clas siccmp.org 02/07/02 02:05 PM Please respond to classiccmp On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, John Allain wrote: > One of our list members just made it to the big leagues. The NY Times > printed a large photo article on Douglas W. Jones today. Seems his > extensive collection of punched cards caught their eye. A good case > for a well-managed collection it seems. > > "When PC Still Means 'Punch Card'" > New York Times, 'Circuits', 07-Feb-2002 Heres a link to the story: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/07/technology/circuits/07CARD.html -Toth

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Kinda OT a little....

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Reply off-list directly to me please... Guys, how does paying $30 - $40 sound for a sun ultra creator 1 video card (not sure on specs) and a bare bones sun ultra creator 1 desktop, no HDD, no RAM. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Computer Museum of America on Tuesday night's PBS NOVA (fwd)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Lawrence LeMay [mailto:lemay@cs.umn.edu] > I dont suppose we can return to discussing computers? Anyone > wanna buy a > Prime computer? I was contacted by a reseller i've dealt with in the > past, to see if i had any interest in it. Love to have one, but I imagine I'd hate to move it. :) How large are those things, anyway? Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Interesting C question

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: I have discovered an interesting anomaly while finishing up the 2.2 version of the Altair32 Emulator (to be released this weekend, by the way). Maybe it's my lack of understanding of C or the service pack I applied to MSVC :-) Between version 2.0 and 2.1, BASIC 3.2 was broken -- it was hanging in a loop in the console input code waiting for the right status bits to be set by my port emulator code. While I was setting the right bits, the internal emulator variable wasn't reflecting the assignment. In the sio00h routine in the sio.c module, I declare a local-scope variable of type int that's not initialized... int sio00h (params...){ int nSioStatus ; ... stuff } When in the MSVC debugger, the undeclared variable has the value 0xcccccccc. OK. In the body of the routine, the variable can be set to three values using #defines from the header. For some reason, the variable is not being set to the #define value. As you trace execution, the variable to be returned by the routine remains 0xcccccccc after assignment: nSioStatus = SIO_WDB ; //#defines to 0x80 So, I initialized the variable to 0 and for good measure, returned the int as: return (nSioStatus & 0xff) ; In one of the top calling routines, it gets truncated to a BYTE-size (so to speak) anyway. So I figured that maybe there was a scoping problem but the nSioStatus variable is not used in any other module, nor is it declared extern or module global. The #define appears in multiple headers but are all defined to be the same value. Now, BASIC 3.2 it works but I can't really figure out why. Any thoughts?? Rich

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[PDP8-Lovers] Re: if you hadn't already known this about the PDP-8

by jones＠cs.uiowa.edu

Mark Crispin <MRC(a)CAC.Washington.EDU> wrote: > Stacks are very useful, but they are not the solution to everything. Absolutely agreed. > One of the biggest deficiencies of C is its lack of co-routines, since > it only has the stack style of subroutine calling. Yeah, I know about > setjmp/longjmp, but those are one-way, not true co-routines. Well, setjmp and longjmp are pretty powerful. see http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/opsys/threads/ for a machine-independent user-level thread package implemented in C using setjmp and longjmp for control transfers between threads. It comes very close to what a real coroutine afficianado would like. (Writing the thread launch code in a machine independent way was murder.) Curiously, the same thing can be done without longjmp()! I had a student write me a thread package in Pascal once. All he needed was a mechanism to convert pointers to integers and back again (easy enough in standard Pascal, so long as it doesn't check variant records). Given this, his code did essentially the same thing as my thread package. > Of course, talking about co-routines to youngsters is likely to get > their eyes to glaze over, since they won't have a clue as to what I'm > talking about. Indeed. Doug Jones jones(a)cs.uiowa.edu

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Computer Museum of America on Tuesday night's PBS NOVA (fwd)

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Serius, you realy must live way outside civilisation to go thru this >effort to get TV ! Satallite TV isn't an effort thing... it is a how bad do I want to be ripped off by cable thing. (Remember, these are 18" dishes... they are popping up all over the place) Around here, Basic Cable (40 channels, no HBO or nothing) costs $62.00 a month. $10 more for each pay channel you want (HBO, Cinimax, Stars, Encore, TMC, or Showtime). Satallite TV (Dish Network) gives me 200+ channels, PLUS all the pay channels (5 HBO, 3 Cinimax, tons of others... roughly 40 pay channels in all), PLUS country wide "superstations" (WB, UPN, so I can watch Smallville 3 times every tuesday... cause Enterprise sucks so I have to have SOME show to be addicted to) PLUS local broadcast networks (no biggie, I can put an arial up for those), PLUS something like 200 music channels (those things that play a screen saver while playing music) All for $70 a month (I have to pay $5 for my 2nd decoder connection, so really it is $65 a month). So for $3 more than cable, I get more channels that I can count. Only downside... one channel per decoder, two decoders per dish for normal setup (you can go as high as 8 or 9 with some Channel Plus hardware). But that downside matters not to me... the lean-to I live in doesn't make it easy to watch two diferent channels as is... 3 would be sensory overload. And the video quality of Satallite vs Cable isn't even a comparison. But then, if you are a person that can't see the difference between VHS video and DVD video, you probably won't care about that aspect. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Sea Container Spelunking (Terminal Junkie Part Two)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > > containers. I half expected to find some ex-colleagues preserved in > > > aspic. "Oh, John? No, he never _really_ left. No one ever does". > > > > Aspic isn't a preservative, it's a sauce... > > > > Haven't you ever had Lark's Tongues in Aspic? > > > > ;) > > > > -dq > Only while wearing a red robe...... Thank god somebody realized what court this ball was in... ;)

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Computer Museum of America on Tuesday night's PBS NOVA (fwd)

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/7/02 1:12:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, mythtech(a)Mac.com writes: > Around here, Basic Cable (40 channels, no HBO or nothing) costs $62.00 a > month. $10 more for each pay channel you want (HBO, Cinimax, Stars, > Encore, TMC, or Showtime). > DANG! Mine is less than half that - way less. -Linc. In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right... Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.

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Working with useful computers (was: What's your specialty?)

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: LFessen106(a)aol.com > > In a message dated Wed, 6 Feb 2002 9:16:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, Dave > McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> writes: > > > On February 6, R. D. Davis wrote: > > > of curiosity, how many others here absolutely refuse to work for an > > > employer requiring one to work with those confounded annoyances called > > > Micro$oft products? > > > > Me. > > > > -Dave > > I would like to say that but in all reality I make a lot of money off of > Microsoft products - fixing them. > I mean think about it - if the world ran unix, there would be a lot less > money to be made reinstalling operating systems. > > -Linc. > I must agree with Linc here. If it weren't for M$ products crashing, I wouldn't be making the money to have a classic computer collection... I can understand why you guys wouldn't want to use them, though. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Looking for a WD 1001 55 Disk controller

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/7/02 9:00:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, marvin(a)rain.org writes: > Interesting, you are the only other person (besides myself) with a > Molecular that I've seen mentioned on this listserver! I got mine when > I had a Molecular at one time. It used a 8" floppy disk and a 5 1/4 HD. I think I still have some of the SW on floppies around I got mine from a school district office and passed it on when I closed my warehouse. Nice Machine. Paxton Astoria, OR

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IBM 8533 'PS/2 Note'

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

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