On Feb 9, 8:20, Robert Schaefer wrote:
> What are all the different fiber dialects of 10Mbit ethernet? 10bFL,
> 10bFOILR, any others?
FOIRL (it's not called 10baseFOIRL) is Fibre Optic Inter-Repeater Link, and
as the name implies was originally used to links hubs (repeaters) or
bridges. One of it's chief advantages was length, FOIRL lines can be up to
1km, whereas 10base2 is limited to 185m and 10base5 to 500m. The
transceivers (with AUI connectors) came a little later, and can also be
used on individual machines, of course, though they're not strictly part of
the standard.
10baseFL is the successor, same speed, completely backwards compatible, but
enhanced range (2km).
There are two other 10baseF standards. 10baseFB is for backbones, and
allows more than the usual number of repeaters. It uses different
signaling protocols, isn't compatible with anything else, and I've never
seen any, so I assume it wasn't common. 10baseFP is mentioned in the
standard as a passive method of interconnecting computers without repeaters
(hubs) but I never even heard of anyone implementing it.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Hello, all:
Another busy two months has resulted in version 2.20.02 of the Altair32
Emulator. There were a few bug fixes (now BASIC 3.2 works -- an
uninitialized local variable, if you're interested) and with the diligent
work of Scott LaBombard, we now have several workable ways of moving
programs and data into and out of the CP/M OS space. Scott is also in the
process of creating some pre-made "applications" disk images to go along
with the "programmer's disk" that's included with the distribution.
I will probably take a short vacation from working on the emulator pending
some ideas for enhancements from the user community and to catch up on other
projects (Z180 SBC, in-house MP3 server, a MAME cabinet, and a KIM-1
emulator for the Palm Pilot -- working name "The Kimulator").
As always, questions and comments are welcome, and here's a direct link to
the project page:
http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/Altair32.htm
Enjoy!
Rich
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
/************************************************************/
On 08-Feb-2002 Tony Duell wrote:
>> > > I don't have access to a "HP Apollo 725/50" because the PSU died
>> > > and is beyond repair :-(
>> >
>> > If it uses the same PSU as a 720, I might be able to get you one very
>> > cheaply.
>> Thanks for the offer :-)
>> I don't know if the PSU is the same, the HP P/N is 0950-2701
>> it's an ASTEC Model AA16510.
>> HP wants 251$ for a new PSU (IMHO more than the machine is worth) :-(
>
> Why do you think the original PSU is beyond repair? Unless it's
> physically broken in half or something. Most SMPSU faults can be repaired
> relatively easily (at least compared to logic board problems where there
> are custom chips to worry about).
OK, lets say the PSU is beyond repair for me and everyone else I asked.
This isn't one of those nice handfull-of-components PeeCee-PSUs. This
beast is about 40*15*15cm^3 and stuffed to the limit with components,
daughterboards and custom coils.
Even with a schematic it would be a pain to identify all the control
circuits. And I don't even know what input and output voltages
are supposed to be on the connectors... :-(
I'm sure it's repairable with a lot of time and many years of experience.
But neither I nor my fellow students have that experience.
> I'm assuming you're getting no output at all? Is the fuse OK (and if not,
> did it fail violently, shattered or blackened)? Any obviously burnt
> componnents on the PCB?
The fuse is OK, it's not that easy.
There is a charred diode, which most probably took some of the control
circuits with it. We replaced the diode and the PSU starts up but shuts
down again after a few seconds.
There is also a resistor inside, that obviously got to hot for years
(the area around is colored from the heat).
Therefore I suppose this PSU isn't the perfect fit for the machine anyway.
bye
--
Sanity is the trademark of a weak mind.
-- Mark Harrold
Just got back from cleaning out some of the vintage junk at Surplus
Exchange, Kansas City, MO. Got 4 5.25" Apple II drives, one 3.5", and
three 1541's. One is labeled VIC1540, and I'm wondering if it still has
the original rom that made it incompatible with the C=64. I'm betting
that it probably has been replaced.
The good surplus places are really drying up fast. If it isn't IBM
Pentium or newer, the last trip is to the dumpster. SuperMega bummer .
. . . .
I now have two 1541's with bad head cables (broken in the middle). Do
any of you know how I can check them safely (not using an ohmmeter) so I
could find the break in that wire, and either splice it/replace the
wire, or find a new head assembly??
Gary Hildebrand
ST. Joseph, MO
On 09-Feb-2002 Tothwolf wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Tony Duell wrote:
[many good ideas]
>> > intense heat. I've used a dremel tool to cut/grind away carbonized
areas
>> > of boards and replace it with new material or wire jumpers. This is a
Good point, when I'm at the university next week, I'll try to remove the
charred areas around the diode.
>> You might be able to etch a 'patch' -- a small PCB that can be fitted
>> into a hole cut in the original and then joined up. It would be worth
>> doing that if the original PCB was SRBP (the replacement could be
>> glassfibre).
>
> I've done just that. In a pinch, grid-board and some patience can work too
> ;)
Thanks for all your suggestions, but replacing the defective parts isn't the
most pressing problem. The real problem is to locate them among the
hundreds of working components ;-)
bye
--
Sanity is the trademark of a weak mind.
-- Mark Harrold
If anyone near this person can help, I am sure it would be appreciated.
I already sent some suggestions as to where he might locate some hardware,
but if any of you have some items that he could use, let him know.
Please respond directly to: N1WSC(a)aol.com
> Hello: I am a teacher in Worcester MA. and I am putting together a course
for
> my Jr. high students on the history and evolution of personal computers.
One
> of my goals is to be able to physically show my students how the personal
> computer evolved using open chassis systems. I am not sure of the tax
exempt
> status of my school ( A Parish School within the Diocese of Worcester) so I
> don't know if you can receive a tax deduction ( or a form from us anyway) .
I
> am hoping some users of this board who live in the Massachusetts area might
> have dead machines or components that would serve as " cadavers" for my
> students. I have checked shipping charges, and they are outrageous, so I
would
> prefer to pick one up if at all possible. If you are in any position to
help,
> please contact me ( Sean) at N1WSC(a)aol.com
TIA
Mike
Hi,
While tidying up I found a Cifer T5 terminal, minus its keyboard.
Does anyone have any info? None of the keyboards I have here work
with it and a google search didn't turn up any hardware info.
Any info appreciated...meanwhile I'll take a look inside and see
if that offers any clues.
--
Cheers,
Stan Barr stanb(a)dial.pipex.com
The future was never like this!
On Feb 8, 13:23, Tothwolf wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Neil Cherry wrote:
>
> > Anyone one in NJ care for 2 Asante FN10TA (free)? I bid on 2 EN/SC 10T
> > and they shipped the wrong stuff. They've said I could keep it and I'm
> > hoping they'll find the EN/SC's.
>
> Speaking of Asante Friendlynet stuff, I've got a few inline 10Base-2
> adapters that I have no information on. Each has 2 BNC and 1 RJ45
> connectors on them. I'm guessing these use some sort of special cable on
> the RJ45 port to connect to the computer? I found a cable loose in
another
> box that has an AAUI connector on one end, and an RJ45 plug on the other.
> Would this be the type of cable used by them?
Yes, that's probably the right cable, if you found them close by. The RJ45
on the Asante Friendlynet adaptors is a basic AUI, just a non-standard
connector (for the context).
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Haven't seen nyone mention this yet.
9th February issue of New Scientist has a three plus page interview with
Michael Williams the computer historian who has been charged with
turning the Moffat Field collection into a world class museum.
Interesting read and some good pictures ....
-- hbp
I've just updated some files and added a lot of new files to the Sol
Archives web site that I maintain.
http://www.thebattles.net/sol20/sol.html
Other than work on the Sol emulator, this is the first big update since
last April. Excerpting the "What's New" entry for the most important bits:
- added Chapter X of the Sol Systems Manual; this includes the schematics
and mechanical drawings
- added Popular Electronics, July 1976 article that announced the Sol
- added SOLUS News, Vol. 1, No. 1, Jan./Feb. 1978
- added SOLUS News, Vol. 1, No. 2, March 1978
- added SOLUS News, Vol. 1, No. 3, April 1978
- added the FOCAL manual
- added the Music System manual
- added a link to the DDS debugger manual, which I've had online, but
without a link to it!
-----
Jim Battle == frustum(a)pacbell.net
How do I preserve the license files on a DEC 3000/300x with a dying
disk?
I traded for the damn thing cause i wanted the RZ26..... Now I at
least want the paks.
uname -a gives:
OSF1 sys.my.net V4.0 878 alpha
A bootable tape backup HOWTO would be timely as well. The disk sounds
like my kitchen blender.
Doc
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Strathmann [mailto:thomas@tstrathmann.de]
> I think about this a lot sometimes. Mostly when I am again deeply
> frustrated about the behaviour of certain morons on the
> Internet. What I
Me too. :)
> would like to do is what some people call a guerilla net, a WLAN that
> connects like-minded people to form a community seperate from
> the Internet.
> But using existing Internet connections would be better for
> obvious reasons
> (price, availability, bridging huge distances etc.). The problem with
Well, existing internet connections are a good idea, but I like to --
in principal -- separate this thing from internet as much as possible.
Basically I had thought of using the existing internet connections
for anything that would cause extra charges to be applied to your
phone bill ;) In the local area, I was thinking of telephone only.
Packet radio where available.
> testing a program/configuration/installation of such a service is not
> within my capacity, I would need access to a server with a
> reasonably fast
> connection which is, more important, online 24/7.
Well, if you want a relay network, no you wouldn't. :) Otherwise yes.
My idea was for a relay net, since it would allow most people who have
the wherewithal and the intelligence to set some stuff up to participate
with little or no cost.
It would also keep the idiots away because it's "slow, and why won't my
web browser work." :)
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
On Feb 8, 20:42, Tothwolf wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Pete Turnbull wrote:
>
> > Proper ABS cement (available for plastic plumbing) is about the
> > strongest glue you can get for that, much stronger than superglue on
> > ABS. It doesn't just adhere, it welds the plastic. An alternative is
> > methyl ethyl ketone, MEK, commonly available as a solvent and widely
> > used industrially to glue/weld both PVC and ABS.
>
> Methyl Ethyl Ketone won't even begin to bond ABS. It just isn't a strong
> enough solvent. It works fine on Polystyrene, but I've never seen
> Polystyrene used for a computer case. ABS is almost always used, since it
> is extremely durable. Most non-industrial epoxies won't even begin to
> adhere to ABS plastics either.
MEK works very well on PVC, less well on ABS, that's true.
> I have a small glass bottle of Methylene Chloride I bought at a hobby
> supply shop. It says it will work on Styrene, Butyrate, ABS and Acrylic
> (Lucite of Plexiglas). I haven't yet tried it out on the ABS skins on my
> SGI systems tho.
Chloroform works very well on Perspex (Lucite), and is reckoned by some to
be marginally safer. It doesn't work very well on ABS, though.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Feb 8, 20:22, Doc wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Dan Kolb wrote:
>
> > How many spams are actually sent from Hotmail or Yahoo? (As opposed to
having
> > forged From: fields)?
>
> A lot from Hotmail, not so many from Yahoo. The problem with both is
> that it's trivial to get an account. Doesn't matter a lot if they TOS
> you 6 hours later.
> In my experience, Yahoo seems to respond more decisively to
> complaints.
I was amused by a message on one of the comp.sys.acorn (IIRC) newsgroups
yesterday. Someone received some spam from a Hotmail account, hastily read
the rest of his email, cut and pasted headers and body into a complaint to
Hotmail's abuse address before going out, and sent it off. A few hours
later he found his friend's account had been terminated. He'd cut and
pasted from the wrong message, and Hotmail accepted the complaint without
question!
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Feb 8, 20:25, Tothwolf wrote:
> You wouldn't happen to know someone with 3-4 24 port units they would be
> willing to give the school do you?
'Fraid not. CompSci at York (my old Department) recently got rid of over
two dozen 3Com PS II 40 hubs, but to my great disgust hurriedly sold them
as a job lot and didn't even offer any to me, or or to Computing Service
(we would have been interested in using them for student residences). I'm
on the wrong side of the Atlantic, anyway.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Feb 8, 22:01, Tony Duell wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can get the fibre cable cheap? I've got half a
> dozen or so transceivers, all labelled 'not working', but they look
> fixable (it's mostly simple 10K ECL inside). And when I was in one of my
> many computer rooms looking for an HP plotter recently, I tripped over a
> 12 port 10base-FL hub (or at least that's what I assume it is).
>
> But I don't have the cable, and the prices I've seen quoted for it mean
> I'm not going to buy it new...
I might be able to get you it at the prices we pay, which are much lower
than most catalogues. Contact me off-list and tell me what sort of
length(s) and what connectors (I'd guess ST bayonets).
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
As many of you will attest, once you aquire one of something,
more soon follow. I've been wanting a NeXT Cube for over 10 years
and finally picked one up a few months ago. Now, thanks to Doc's
help, I've just aquired a second. This one is a much earlier machine
than my first one, with a serial# less than 5000 and unlike my first
it still retains it's '030 configuration and dual-OD faceplate.
Though missing the OD, which I do have a replacement for, it also has
the 40MB swap disk that NeXT started installing in Nov. 1989. It
also has the later drive tower with the 4 sets of mounting holes.
In comparison, my other Cube, which also started life as an
'030 machine, has a serial# of 16818 and had been upgraded to an '040
with the addition of the internal floppy and faceplate (though still
retaining the OD), as well as being further upgraded with the
NeXTdimension board.
Jeff
--
Home of the TRS-80 Model 2000 FAQ File
http://www.cchaven.comhttp://www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lakes/6757
Does anyone on the list have one or all of these; The Adventure Vision
by Entex, the COSMOS by Atari, or the Microvision by Milton Bradley? I
hope to get a Microvision in a couple days but the others are hard to
find. The COSMOS for example has only 5 known to be left and only 2 of
those are working units.
>> I also have an Iomege Tape250 Insider with docs and drivers.
>
>Hmmm, yummy.
>I really just need copies of the drivers or software, and ideally a copy
>of the documentation if necessary.
I'd be happy to dupe the disks for you on Monday as well as photocopy the
docs and mail them to you.
I also have a SCSI tape drive of some kind attached to my Mac. I don't
recall if it came with PC drivers as well or not. I don't remember
anything about the drive, as it has been sitting under my CD burner in
the corner unused since shortly after I bought it (connected and turned
on, but unused). I only used it a few times... it is so bloody slow, I
gave up and started doing my backups to CD (its a 2gig tape drive, but it
takes about 8 hours to backup the full 2gig! So it is faster for me to
burn to my 2x CDRW) I will pull out the docs for it and see if it was PC
compatible as well, if it was, I can copy those if needed as well (I'll
let you know what it is on Monday also)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Since the issue came up recently, I requested a price quote
>from Athana. I told them it's a joint order with friends
for 100 pieces. And this is what I got back:
Per our telephone conversation of this date, Athana is please
to send you the following quotation, for 5.25" and 8 inch
diskettes, based on a combined quantity of 100 diskettes.
5.25" DD diskettes 8 Inch Diskettes (SS or DD diskettes)
$0.85/diskette $7.50/diskette
Shipping charges to Indianapolis are $12.00 via UPS ground.
Now how does that sound, $7.50 per disk? Pretty stiff
price, and the difference to the 5.25" DDs is quite
interesting. Anyone found better prices?
thanks,
-Gunther
--
Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org
Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care
Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine
tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org
On 05-Feb-2002 Sellam Ismail wrote:
> Ok, now's your chance to discuss your specialty and get the attention of
> other folks who have stuff that you may want.
I'm mainly interested in Unix-Workstations.
I currently have access (I don't own most of the machines) to:
various RS/6Ks
various SGI-Workstations
a few Sparcstations
two VAXstations
a DEC 3000
I don't have access to a "HP Apollo 725/50" because the PSU died
and is beyond repair :-(
Does anyone know the Voltages on the PSU-Connector and
if a standard PeeCee PSU can be connected to it...
I'm also tinkering with some transputer-based systems...
bye
--
Sanity is the trademark of a weak mind.
-- Mark Harrold
On Feb 8, 17:02, Jay West wrote:
> I have recently rediscovered my HP41C and HP200LX units. The 200LX has a
> partial crack in the top lid back by the hinge, such that if it cracked
all
> the way through, the top (screen) would only be attached by one side. I
want
> to glue the crack (it gaps when opening the unit) before it breaks all
the
> way through. Is it better to use a superglue or a regular elmers glue?
Just
> don't want to mess it up. I would use superglue, but I have found some
> situations where superglue doesn't adhere like I would think.
I don't know what elmers glue is, and I don't have an HP41C or HP200LX. If
the case is plastic, it's most likely some grade of ABS or just possibly
PVC. (If it's a "waxy" plastic it may be some relative of polythene or
high density polypropylene and almost nothing glues those -- you have to
heat weld them.)
Proper ABS cement (available for plastic plumbing) is about the strongest
glue you can get for that, much stronger than superglue on ABS. It doesn't
just adhere, it welds the plastic. An alternative is methyl ethyl ketone,
MEK, commonly available as a solvent and widely used industrially to
glue/weld both PVC and ABS.
Whatever you do, try it on the inside first, where it won't show if it goes
wrong!
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Feb 8, 13:32, Christopher Smith wrote:
> > From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net]
>
> > I'd like to find some myself. I'm looking for 6-8 of either the AUI to
> > 10Base-FL type, or 10Base-T to 10Base-FL type. Theres a local
> > school that
> > I put a lan in for that currently has copper between 3
> > buildings. I'd like
> > to replace those copper lines with 10Base-FL this summer at
> > the latest.
> Well, if you're concerned about capacity, you might consider
> running multiple lines and doing some kind of channel binding.
>
> If you're concerned that the copper may not last well outdoors,
> well, that won't help. :) 10-Base-2 or 10-Base-5, though, can be
> very weatherproof.
The usual concern is not capacity -- if the school already has copper it
probably is 10baseT or 10base2/10base5 which is the same speed as 10baseFL
-- but safety.
You're not supposed to run copper between buildings for two reasons. First
is that they may not be grounded at the same potential; there could easily
be a voltage difference between them. Even a small difference can cause
damage to interfaces, though if they're working at present, presumably
that's not serious in this case. Tiny differences just cause increased
error rates. However, if there should ever be an earth fault on one
building, all bets are off.
Second reason is inductive pickup, or change in ground potential due to
nearby lightning. Even coax picks that up rather well.
The cheapest way to do this is often to find a pair of hubs (like the 3Com
Netbuilders or PSII range) which can take an extra transceiver module or
two in the back. They're usually cheap, and the Fibre Link interfaces are
very cheap because hardly anyone wants them. Standalone media converters,
on the other hand, are much more expensive, even secondhand.
Best way to buy the fibre for short runs (10-50 yards) is to buy patch
leads from a trade supplier. Trade suppliers are typically 1/2 - 1/8 the
price of end-user catalogues. Better still, sometimes you find people with
surplus patch leads with ST connectors, which they've replaced with SC or
even MT-RJ.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
"Jay West" <west(a)tseinc.com> wrote:
> Not sure if this is on-topic or not, forgive my indescretion if it isn't on
> topic..
It's not, but that's OK, the 200LX is a classic computer anyway.
Do a Google search for the words '200LX hinge crack'.
There's a mailing list where it's more on topic: HPLX-L!
Details at <http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml>.
There are archives (searchable) at <http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/>.
-Frank McConnell
> * I also picked up an HP-IB looking cable with a Commodore
> logo on it. If I remember correctly, these were used to connect
> peripherals to some old Commodore systems (I don't really follow
> them). It looks like it is totally unused in original bag. If anyone
> wants it, let me know. I pretty much grabbed it with the express
> purpose of offering it to the list, as old micros aren't really my
> thing. It's free as well for the price of shipping, I guess.
Well, a very kind soul has informed me that this cable is a quasi
rare item used to connect peripherals to Commodore PET systems, and
apparently that they are worth a bit of money ($50-80).
So, before I just end up giving this thing away to the person
lucky enough to nail me on a "first come, first serve" basis, does
anyone have any ideas on how to make this part available to anyone
who may be interested in it in an at least marginally equitable
fashion (if multiple people are interested)?
If nobody's interested, then I'll just hang onto the thing -- I'm
sure somebody might run into the need for one sometime in the
future. Otherwise, if you want it, just shoot me an e-mail and let
me know -- i'll wait a little while and see how many people are
interested, and we can go from there...
I don't mean to offend anyone by kind of retracting my original
offer -- I just want to give everyone who may be interested in
the part an equal chance at grabbing it irrespective of "luck of
getting to me first". I'm still not looking for a fortune here --
if anyone wants to cover my costs on the cable (I paid $5), that
would be cool, if not, and you're the only person interested,
well, I still wouldn't be adverse to just handing the thing
out.
Kind regards,
Sean
--
Sean Caron http://www.diablonet.net
scaron(a)engin.umich.edu root(a)diablonet.net
At 02:14 PM 8/02/2002 -0500, r. 'bear' stricklin wrote:
>On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Cini, Richard wrote:
>
> > So, here's the question...if you were setting-up a networked MP3
> > player in your house, how would you do it? hardware's not the question --
> > just software.
>
>Actually one of my projects recently has been working on a semi-embedded
>linux for Dreamcast for just this purpose. I have this whole "usability"
>hangup though so I still have a lot of work left.
My current setup is:
library A DEC PWD500a running Linux with mirrored 40Gb IDE
drives.
Acts as MP3 store and also rips CDs like there's
no tomorrow!
Wireless network based around a Multia acting as firewall and
access point
iPAQ running Linux with wireless card NFS mounting MP3 files.
Truly portable
MP3 player.
I've been thinking of buying another iPAQ (3130 black and white) as they've
reached EOL and are really cheap. Add one wireless card and keep it
attached to the surround sound system. Then use the other iPAQ as the
remote control (via a web page served from the B&W iPAQ).
Note, there is some non OT content. The Multia is surely more than 10 years
old and as someone pointed out the other day, so's Linux (I've certainly
been using it since early 1992).
Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)kerberos.davies.net.au
| "If God had wanted soccer played in the
| air, the sky would be painted green"
I figure I'll try here first...
I'm looking for a case for some SCA-80 SCSI drives I picked up. They
have plastic Sun drive rails, from their RAID tower, P/N 5402568-03...
Those rails are useless to me, and therefore up for sale/trade;
unless of course I can find a Sun box to use them in.
--- David A Woyciesjes
--- C & IS Support Specialist
--- Yale University Press
--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
--- (203) 432-0953
--- ICQ # - 90581
Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001
Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash
On February 8, Richard & Catherine McWilliams wrote:
> Dave...still have the manual ?
I belive so...want me to go dig it up?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
Here's a message I got back regarding the IBM 3390's from someone Dave
McGuire referred me to.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:31:50 -0500
From: Dan Nunkovich <dan(a)southeasterndata.com>
To: vcf(a)vintage.org
Subject: Re: IBM 3390
These are old systems, I get these in from time to time but I usually scrap
them. I have sold a few of these on ebay but I only received around 150.00
each for them and that was about a year ago. Now I just send them to the
recycling centers. Sorry I could not help you.
--
Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org
* Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *
> Ron Hudson wrote:
>
> > I just googled on "uucp network" and I could only find
> > instances of UUCP software and some networks in Africa.
> > I think we would need to set this up our selves.
>
> Is it just me, or didn't someone here offer to take the
> lead on setting up a ClassicCmp UUCP map months ago?
> Or is that just symptomatic of excessive Red Bull
> intake on my part?
All depends on what you're mixing it with.... ;)
Yes, several of us had a full head of steam to do this...
I could dedicate a 486 running Linux to it and could
have it online from 8am to 5pm daily... as long as
someone puts together a step-by-step...
(I'm sure I could figure it out but my figuring organ has
little spare bandwidth left, and that's dedicated to the
Cyber simulator)...
-dq
> That sounds like the Farallon transceivers. They had an AAUI to RJ45
> cable, and then a box that plugged into that RJ45 end. The box would then
> go to whatever port type you were using.
Correction on my calling it a Farallon... the ones I was thinking of are
Asante FriendlyNet (may very well be the same that were being offered
that started this thread). I caught my error as I was leaving work, and I
pulled out one of my spares to take home to play with some of the new
computers I picked up this week... I noticed the big ASANTE label and
realized... gee... thats not Farallon like I thought it was.
Sorry... the description of the design is still the same... just a
different maker.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
> ----------
> From: Hans Franke
>
> > > Geez. The Flying Toaster screen saver guys were more interesting than
> > > that and I'm not considering exhibiting anything by them ;)
>
> > WHAT?!?
> > Opus and Bill shooting down flying toasters was a significant event in
> the
> > history of computer intellectual property law!
>
> It has been the only screen saver I EVER did use.
> And the only I EVER realy went out to search.
> And of course the only I EVER payed Money.
>
> Opus is #1
> (And there are still at least 3 company wide used software packages
> at SIEMENS with reference to him :)
>
> Gruss
> H.
>
Is that screensaver still around? and what does it run on? I gotta have it!
8-)
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Not sure if this is on-topic or not, forgive my indescretion if it isn't on
topic..
I have recently rediscovered my HP41C and HP200LX units. The 200LX has a
partial crack in the top lid back by the hinge, such that if it cracked all
the way through, the top (screen) would only be attached by one side. I want
to glue the crack (it gaps when opening the unit) before it breaks all the
way through. Is it better to use a superglue or a regular elmers glue? Just
don't want to mess it up. I would use superglue, but I have found some
situations where superglue doesn't adhere like I would think.
Suggestions?
Jay West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay West [mailto:west@tseinc.com]
> I have recently rediscovered my HP41C and HP200LX units. The
> 200LX has a
> partial crack in the top lid back by the hinge, such that if
> it cracked all
> the way through, the top (screen) would only be attached by
> one side. I want
> to glue the crack (it gaps when opening the unit) before it
> breaks all the
> way through. Is it better to use a superglue or a regular
> elmers glue? Just
I wouldn't even bother to try getting "elmer's glue" to work
on that. Superglue is definitely the way to go, given those
choices. In general I find it adheres to that type of plastic
perfectly well, but may take longer to set to the point where
it's useful. Give it at least 24 hours to be safe. Honestly,
it would be overkill, but I'd let it set a few days. Glue both
sides if possible, and if there's a way to clamp the work
together without damaging the palmtop, do it.
You may even be able to remove excess with a metal nail-file.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
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Hi. I think I'm gonna snatch a TRS-80 at work. I was going to ask
opinions about whether the 4D or the 4P is the better choice, and I
guess I am listening, but I think the Desktop is just too cute not to
have.
I think it's unmodified, with 2 floppies and no peripherals that I've
found. Case looks excellent, keyboard is all there and legible. What
should I be looking for, both in the way of problems and externals?
I know there diagnostics disks or boot floppies available in .dsk
format, from playing around with xtrs. Can I reliably wite them to
floppy on PC? The FAQ says Tony Duell's utility is "convenient...if
you can get it to work". ??? Does that just mean "if the operator has
a clue"?
Should I just leave the thing on the shelf?
And the burning question of the day:
But will it run Unix?
Doc
>After aggravation with modem connects early in the morning (around 4 or 5am),
>I was wondering: it seems like the connections are somehow poorer at that
>time -- are the lines lower-quality at off-peak hours?
Where do you live?
Older telco cable is prone to temperature changes, causing piss poor
connections.
It could be that your cable or local cabinet is just suffering from cold
weather.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Anyone one in NJ care for 2 Asante FN10TA (free)? I bid on 2 EN/SC 10T
and they shipped the wrong stuff. They've said I could keep it and I'm
hoping they'll find the EN/SC's.
--
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http://members.home.net/ncherry (Text only)
http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge)
http://hcs.sourceforge.net/ (HCS II)
I'm looking for PC docs & drivers for old tape drives. I already have
everything I need for Colorado tape drives, so I'm looking for older, more
obscure stuff from the 80s. If anyone's got ANYTHING like this, for any
type of tape drive (QIC, digital cassette, whatever) please let me know.
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Hello, all:
Well, my latest spare-hardware-using project (while I'm waiting for
parts for other projects to come) is an MP3 server. But I'm torn as to what
OS to use. I was going to use NT Server with Internet Information Server so
that I could serve up a dynamic clickable catalog. The I thought that I'd
just make a simple shared drive and use Media Player to create and manage
playlists. Then I thought maybe this would be perfect for Linux with Samba
and Apache.
So, here's the question...if you were setting-up a networked MP3
player in your house, how would you do it? hardware's not the question --
just software.
Rich
Over at Purdue Salvage, they have an RS/6000 Model 7013 'space heater'
sized system. On the front it says 'Power Server 560(590?)' Any ideas on
value, and is anyone interested?
-- Pat
West Lafayette, IN
On Feb 8, 14:58, Chris wrote:
> That sounds like the Farallon transceivers. They had an AAUI to RJ45
> cable, and then a box that plugged into that RJ45 end. The box would then
> go to whatever port type you were using.
>
> So yes... that cable should go to the box's RJ45 port (which should be
> labled as Computer, with the 10b-2 side labeled as Network... at least
> the 10b-T ones I have are labeled that way)
>
> I have always wanted to just plug that AAUI to RJ45 cable into a hub and
> see if it works without the box... but I have never been willing to risk
> frying something.
It doesn't work but it doesn't do any harm :-) On another occasion, I
tried the converse: RJ45 patch from hub to transceiver, and 10base2 coax on
the other side. To no-one's surprise, it don't work either. To redeem my
reputation (if I ever had one) I should point out that the only reason I
tried it was that the unit I had wasn't labelled and no-one knew what it
was at the time.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Doesn't look like much classic hardware in this, but there are lots of
nice new systems (Sun Enterprise, Compaq servers, Cisco). This is
taking place in London.
http://www.bachetreharne.com/enron.html
-brian.
After aggravation with modem connects early in the morning (around 4 or 5am),
I was wondering: it seems like the connections are somehow poorer at that
time -- are the lines lower-quality at off-peak hours?
--
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-- "Garbage in -- gospel out" -------------------------------------------------
>Speaking of Asante Friendlynet stuff, I've got a few inline 10Base-2
>adapters that I have no information on. Each has 2 BNC and 1 RJ45
>connectors on them. I'm guessing these use some sort of special cable on
>the RJ45 port to connect to the computer? I found a cable loose in another
>box that has an AAUI connector on one end, and an RJ45 plug on the other.
>Would this be the type of cable used by them?
That sounds like the Farallon transceivers. They had an AAUI to RJ45
cable, and then a box that plugged into that RJ45 end. The box would then
go to whatever port type you were using.
So yes... that cable should go to the box's RJ45 port (which should be
labled as Computer, with the 10b-2 side labeled as Network... at least
the 10b-T ones I have are labeled that way)
I have always wanted to just plug that AAUI to RJ45 cable into a hub and
see if it works without the box... but I have never been willing to risk
frying something.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net]
> I'd like to find some myself. I'm looking for 6-8 of either the AUI to
> 10Base-FL type, or 10Base-T to 10Base-FL type. Theres a local
> school that
> I put a lan in for that currently has copper between 3
> buildings. I'd like
> to replace those copper lines with 10Base-FL this summer at
> the latest.
> Since it's a small nonprofit school, they don't have any
> money to support
> the network, so all of the materials used have been donated
> or were extra
> bits I had laying around.
Well, if you're concerned about capacity, you might consider
running multiple lines and doing some kind of channel binding.
If you're concerned that the copper may not last well outdoors,
well, that won't help. :) 10-Base-2 or 10-Base-5, though, can be
very weatherproof.
You could see if you can dig up a bunch of ricochet modems, and get
the connections between the buildings to be made that way. No cable
at all. (been meaning to dig some up for home use, myself)
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
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In a message dated 2/8/02 2:14:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu writes:
> What's funny, though, is I've never heard anything about having to face
> _you_ in any of this...
>
>
A lot of people owe me a lot of favors - works out good that way :-)
-Linc.
In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right...
Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.
On Feb 8, 10:28, Cini, Richard wrote:
> Well, my latest spare-hardware-using project (while I'm waiting for
> parts for other projects to come) is an MP3 server. But I'm torn as to
what
> OS to use. I was going to use NT Server with Internet Information Server
so
> that I could serve up a dynamic clickable catalog. The I thought that I'd
> just make a simple shared drive and use Media Player to create and manage
> playlists. Then I thought maybe this would be perfect for Linux with
Samba
> and Apache.
I'd use Linux (well, actually I'd use IRIX, but the point is "not Windows")
and Apache. Definitely not IIS, as it's so full of security problems (to
say nothing of other bugs), it is definitely not safe near any machine that
might conceivable be connected to the internet, even through a modem using
a dynamically assigned IP address. It *will* get scanned sometime.
All you need do is stick the MP3s in a directory tree under your
DocumentRoot and start Apache.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
>I don't mind giving them away, it would be nice to trade something for
>them but I'm not worried about that. I rather not just toss them (that's
>a big waste). Besides it's the one thing I really like about this
>hobby, do a good dead and it will come back to you. :-)
Well... if no one else wants them, I can pick them up (eventually... I'm
not going to race down to 8A no offense... but next trip to Philly I can
swing in).
What kind of things are you looking to trade, maybe I have something (I
have TONS of old 5.25 drives for PCs, both DD and HD... want some of
those?!?)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
On Feb 8, 10:21, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
> Windows 2000, EZ-CD Creator 4, and Joliet actually is the default...
>
> I'd tried some shareware burners, but either they didn't
> work with this HP 9200i or I started getting crashes.
Something's wrong then. Just to see how well it worked, I tried mkisofs
with Rock Ridge before I replied to your previous message, and it was fine
with a 187 character filename (the hardest part was typing the filename!).
I've never had a problem with mkisofs and cdrecord (or cdwrite or cdburn)
on IRIX or Linux. I know that doesn't help if you need to use Windows, of
course. Incidentally, I use the same setup to burn EFS (native IRIX), HFS,
and other CD disk formats onto CD-R (though obviously I don't use mkisofs
to create the image to burn).
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
> ----------
> From: LFessen106(a)aol.com
>
> In a message dated 2/8/02 1:19:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu writes:
>
> Multiple VAX? Oh, okay. Truck? Not a problem... I should be able to fit
> all
> of it in my GMC, and I'll bring a trailer, just in case...
>
> --- David A Woyciesjes
>
> Better bring an army too. :-) You want to take my vaxen you have to go
> through my survivalist commando next door neighbor!
>
> -Linc.
----
What's funny, though, is I've never heard anything about having to face
_you_ in any of this...
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In a message dated 2/8/02 1:19:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu writes:
>
> Multiple VAX? Oh, okay. Truck? Not a problem... I should be able to fit all
> of it in my GMC, and I'll bring a trailer, just in case...
>
> --- David A Woyciesjes
>
Better bring an army too. :-) You want to take my vaxen you have to go
through my survivalist commando next door neighbor!
-Linc.
In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right...
Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.
>Eh, you sound like me, Chris, grabbing whatever comes your way. I'd grab and
>store them, but I'm smart enough to not be in NJ...8-P So that means I'll
>have to pass...
I'll eventually have a need for them, what with my growing collection of
older Macs.
But since I knew my collection was growing, the last time I bought some,
I found a guy that was willing to sell a bunch to me at $5 each, so I
bought 10 of them... so right now, I have a few extras... but like I
said, eventually I will run out and need more... so grabbing two while
they are free is just good sense. But I don't want to deprive someone
that needs them right now of getting them... because with me, they will
just be tossed in a box for the immediate future.
And there is an advantage of being from NJ... 1: you can name all the
locations in the opening of Soprano's, 2: when you come from the Armpit
of the Nation... you can handle the worst stenches anywhere (when I
intered with Disney, they took us to their waste processing facility,
everyone was gagging from the smell... except me and another guy from
NJ... who agreed it smelled a lot like the Meadowlands on a warm summer
day!)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
In a message dated 2/8/02 12:33:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu writes:
> Heh heh heh... You know, today is a good day for a good old-fashioned
>
Vax? As in singular? Nahhhh.. You need some muscles to take my vaxen(pl)..
I have 3 3100'ds, a 3400, 2 MVI2K's, an MVII, and 2 MVIII's. You better
bring a truck. :-)
-Linc.
In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right...
Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.
> ----------
> From: LFessen106(a)aol.com
>
> In a message dated 2/8/02 12:33:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu writes:
>
> Heh heh heh... You know, today is a good day for a good old-fashioned
> slug-fest... After I kidnap Linc's Vax. :-)
>
>
> Vax? As in singular? Nahhhh.. You need some muscles to take my
> vaxen(pl).. I have 3 3100'ds, a 3400, 2 MVI2K's, an MVII, and 2 MVIII's.
> You better bring a truck. :-)
>
> -Linc.
>
---
Multiple VAX? Oh, okay. Truck? Not a problem... I should be able to fit all
of it in my GMC, and I'll bring a trailer, just in case...
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> ----------
> From: LFessen106(a)aol.com
>
> In a message dated 2/8/02 11:52:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu writes:
>
> Linc! You actually have a good idea (for once ;-)...
>
> --- David A Woyciesjes
>
>
> OK, Dave, your hitting below the belt there - I'll have to sick my Vaxen
> on ya!
>
> -Linc.
>
---
Heh heh heh... You know, today is a good day for a good old-fashioned
slug-fest... After I kidnap Linc's Vax. :-)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Hudson [mailto:rhudson@cnonline.net]
> I just googled on "uucp network" and I could only find
> instances of UUCP software and some networks in Africa.
> I think we would need to set this up our selves.
> I have a linux system that could grow a modem and be
> a node.
> If we did this would it eventually gateway to the Internet?
Possibly, of course it would need to be completely separate and
autonomous -- in fact, every node probably would be.
I may have a VAXStation 2000 which could do it. Would take some
work on my part, but I'm not adverse to that. The only question
would be one of telco charges... I'll have to see whether I can
answer data calls with my cellular phone. If so, the machine
could operate at night (and on weekends) that way ;)
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
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The ACCRC has a couple IBM 3390 things. I take it these are disk drive
arrays? I also take it these are fairly comntemporary and can probably be
sold to someone?
Does anyone know of anyone or any place that would want to buy these from
them to raise a little cash for the ACCRC?
--
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> ----------
> From: Julius Sridhar
>
> Why not just use an Audiotron? http://www.turtlebeach.com/
>
> Peace... Sridhar
>
> On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Cini, Richard wrote:
......
> > So, here's the question...if you were setting-up a networked MP3
> > player in your house, how would you do it? hardware's not the question
> --
> > just software.
>
---
Because it costs money, and we already have the hardware we need?
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I found out what the vector graphics protocol is:
------------------------------------------------
RIPscrip graphics are EGA quality graphics that are displayed
over the modem. The BBS sends special codes which are
interpreted by a special term program and draws the screen for
the user. The results can be impressive. While there are
other graphic protocols, such as NAPLPS and ROBO/FX, which are
better than RIP (supporting VGA and better resolutions), RIP is
the only one which can be made with simple ASCII sequences.
------------------------------------------------------------------
It also looks like Telegraphix is the company who created this protocol. (Which
I believe somebody said awhile ago._
Cheers,
Bryan
In a message dated 2/8/02 11:52:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,
DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu writes:
> Linc! You actually have a good idea (for once ;-)...
>
> --- David A Woyciesjes
>
OK, Dave, your hitting below the belt there - I'll have to sick my Vaxen on
ya!
-Linc.
In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right...
Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.
> ----------
> From: LFessen106(a)aol.com
>
> In a message dated 2/8/02 10:41:05 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> RCini(a)congressfinancial.com writes:
>
> Hello, all:
>
> Well, my latest spare-hardware-using project (while I'm waiting for
> parts for other projects to come) is an MP3 server. But I'm torn as to
> what
> OS to use. I was going to use NT Server with Internet Information Server
> so
> that I could serve up a dynamic clickable catalog. The I thought that I'd
> just make a simple shared drive and use Media Player to create and manage
> playlists. Then I thought maybe this would be perfect for Linux with Samba
>
> and Apache.
>
> So, here's the question...if you were setting-up a networked MP3
> player in your house, how would you do it? hardware's not the question --
> just software.
>
-----
> I can tell you how I persinally did it.. I set up a unix box (netbsd or
> linux - I have both) and have it run a web server. All my mp3's are
> playable from any machine and any archetecture that way. Most f not all
> mp3 players have the ability to play files from the internet so I just
> point them to my intranet mp3 box and off they go! No hassles with
> multiplatform file services that way. Http is a pretty standard way of
> delivering MP3's.
>
> -Linc.
>
-----
Linc! You actually have a good idea (for once ;-)...
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> ----------
> From: Chris
>
> >Anyone one in NJ care for 2 Asante FN10TA (free)? I bid on 2 EN/SC 10T
> >and they shipped the wrong stuff. They've said I could keep it and I'm
> >hoping they'll find the EN/SC's.
>
> If no one else wants them, I'll take them (I have an extra or two right
> now, so if someone else wants them, give them first dibs)
>
> I'm in Ridgewood (North-East NJ)
>
> -chris
>
> <http://www.mythtech.net>
>
Eh, you sound like me, Chris, grabbing whatever comes your way. I'd grab and
store them, but I'm smart enough to not be in NJ...8-P So that means I'll
have to pass...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cini, Richard [mailto:RCini@congressfinancial.com]
> So, here's the question...if you were setting-up a networked MP3
> player in your house, how would you do it? hardware's not the
> question --
> just software.
Well, here's how I'd do it. :) (Sorry, I think I've delved into the
hardware too much...)
First, I'd stay away from windows at all costs.
Personally, I'd use VMS, or that not being an option due to hardware
concerns, I'd use some form of unix. I'll assume VMS is out of the
question, so here's how I'd do it in that case:
Find three machines. One only needs to be powerful enough to hold.
the disks and serve them through NFS or something. It should also
be a boot-server for the other two.
The second should run samba (if you really must ignore my first
point. :), or a web server, or something. (like an FTP server. IMO,
that's the way to serve "dynamic clickable catalogs") Again, it
could be a pretty light machine. It should netboot from the first
machine, and be diskless.
The third should be able to encode in reasonable time and equipped
with a CD drive. :) It should also boot from the first machine, and
be diskless.
I would use this software:
Probably NetBSD. Rebuild the kernel at least to only contain the
things you need. Cut it down so that the main system runs one
getty on the console, and nothing extra is running.
The other systems would run only the applications they need.
Since they should boot from the main system, forget about getty,
even. Just run the proper daemons, and on the machine that encodes
things, have it run a custom script, or other thing, that will
automatically encode whatever you feed it, and stuff it into
the proper directory.
You could use Samba, FTP, or whatever you were using to transfer
the music to your computer for file management, too. If it were
my system, the machine that you were transferring from would also
have a mechanism in place to play the files itself. Perhaps
that could be done by CGI. That would require that it was a
slightly larger system, though.
The machine for encoding would run cdparanoia, something to access
cddb, and l3enc or bladeenc.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
On February 7, R. D. Davis wrote:
> Were most others here sysops of BBSs at one time as well?
I ran an RCP/M BBS, the "Mercerville RCP/M", in Mercerville NJ (near
Trenton and Princeton) from about mid-1985 to 1988 or so. I enjoyed
it very much. I sorta miss the "culture" of BBSs.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
In a message dated 2/8/02 10:41:05 AM Eastern Standard Time,
RCini(a)congressfinancial.com writes:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello, all:
>
> Well, my latest spare-hardware-using project (while I'm waiting for
> parts for other projects to come) is an MP3 server. But I'm torn as to what
> OS to use. I was going to use NT Server with Internet Information Server so
> that I could serve up a dynamic clickable catalog. The I thought that I'd
> just make a simple shared drive and use Media Player to create and manage
> playlists. Then I thought maybe this would be perfect for Linux with Samba
> and Apache.
>
> So, here's the question...if you were setting-up a networked MP3
> player in your house, how would you do it? hardware's not the question --
> just software.
>
> Rich
>
I can tell you how I persinally did it.. I set up a unix box (netbsd or
linux - I have both) and have it run a web server. All my mp3's are playable
>from any machine and any archetecture that way. Most f not all mp3 players
have the ability to play files from the internet so I just point them to my
intranet mp3 box and off they go! No hassles with multiplatform file
services that way. Http is a pretty standard way of delivering MP3's.
-Linc.
In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right...
Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.
> ----------
> From: Cini, Richard
>
> Well, my latest spare-hardware-using project (while I'm waiting for
> parts for other projects to come) is an MP3 server. But I'm torn as to
> what
> OS to use. I was going to use NT Server with Internet Information Server
> so
> that I could serve up a dynamic clickable catalog. The I thought that I'd
> just make a simple shared drive and use Media Player to create and manage
> playlists. Then I thought maybe this would be perfect for Linux with Samba
> and Apache.
>
> So, here's the question...if you were setting-up a networked MP3
> player in your house, how would you do it? hardware's not the question --
> just software.
-----
Well, I've been thinking about hooking a spare box (Win98 with WinAmp, and
remote control software, nothing else) to my stereo, probably headless. Well
actually, doesn't Win2K have remote control built in?
Then use WebAmp. Haven't tried it yet. Soon. :)
from: http://www.ulfco.com/webamp/
"...WebAmp is a Web Server that sits inside Winamp, allowing remote
control of Winamp through a Web Browser. If you have a TCP/IP connection to
a Winamp PC, you can control it with a Web Browser. I've tested WebAmp with
Winamp 2.72 under Windows 98 and Windows 2000 and with the following
browsers: Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0 under Win 98 and Win 2K Netscape
4.7 under Win 98, Win 2K, Mac, and Linux. Please email me (james(a)ulfco.com)
with your results (good or bad) under other platforms. The current version
is 0.91..."
--- David A Woyciesjes
--- C & IS Support Specialist
--- Yale University Press
--- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu
--- (203) 432-0953
--- ICQ # - 90581
Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001
Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William S. [mailto:wilby98@yahoo.com]
> Does that mean you could set up a vector terminal
> like a Tektronix 4013 and and draw all kinds of
> stuff on the screen? Sounds kinda neat.
Kind of like that. :) There were a couple of trys at this,
one being a proprietary protocol used by a BBS called
"RoboBBS" or "RoboBoard" (don't remember which). This BBS
was accessible by normal methods enough to have it print
a menu and allow you to download a new "terminal emulator"
that would emulate this fake graphics terminal that didn't
really exist. :)
Once you have the graphical program, you dial back in with
that, and see pictures (vector mostly, but with bitmapped
"icons" too.
There was a later standardization effort of sorts, which
defined another graphical terminal that didn't exist. It
used a protocol called RIP (remote imaging protocol?), and
most common BBS's supported it, if configured properly,
and if you were using a terminal emulator that spoke RIP.
I think the best support I've seen for RIP is on Searchlight,
or possibly Renegade. (peesee, ms-dos)
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kris Kirby [mailto:kris@catonic.net]
> of mine used to run one but shut it down eventually. How were
> nodes linked
> together? If every COM port is used for a modem, you're out
However you wanted to link them. :) Generally through relay
networks -- meaning, I phone you, and exchange some data...
you then go and phone some other guy and do the same... etc.
Usually that all happened at some point late at night, or early
morning, so everything was at least a day behind.
> of COM ports.
> Were they independent BBSs that checked in with each other,
> or were they
> networked together over ethernet or (...) ?
Ethernet? That would have to be a long cable in some cases. :)
> Furthermore, what are the practical limits of the BBS
> software? How many
> ports can they handle MAX?
Depends on the BBS software. I've often thought of throwing a
menu-system on top of VMS and calling it a BBS. ;) In that case,
it would handle many, many ports.
In theory you can always get yourself a terminal server(s) of some
kind, and have a modem on every port in the server. Each set to
connect automatically using telnet or whatever to another machine
on a home network. That would allow a single system to serve
hundreds of connections -- depending on the system...
In practice, I never heard of many with more than 8 or 16 lines.
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
> At 03:33 PM 2/7/2002 -0500, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
> >ISO9660 CD's are limited to containing filenames of no more
> >than 32 characters in length. At least, everytime I try to
> >burn a CD, those web pages I've saved that have filenames
> >that are longer result in a dialog box that requires me to
> >either type an alternate name or accept the munged version
> >that it creates itself.
>
> If you're gathering files on a Windows PC, and using PC-based
> burning software, they all support the "Joliet" extensions
> which allow 255-char paths. Maybe you should tell us which
> platforms and packages you're using.
Windows 2000, EZ-CD Creator 4, and Joliet actually is the default...
I'd tried some shareware burners, but either they didn't
work with this HP 9200i or I started getting crashes.
=dq
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Hellige [mailto:jhellige@earthlink.net]
> Mine was 'Mount Olympus BBS' out of Laurel, MD though it was
> physically located in a friends house on Bolling Air Force Base and
> running off of a Leading Edge XT clone. I never became a FIDO node
> but was quite active on FIDO up through about '95 or so.
I'll bet I have one of those Leading Edge XT clones. :)
On a slightly different topic, has anyone thought about doing
something similar to a BBS, but on a larger scale? A UUCP network,
for instance? Not as large or full of garbage as the internet these
days, but not as local as a BBS...
Chris
Christopher Smith, Perl Developer
Amdocs - Champaign, IL
/usr/bin/perl -e '
print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");
'
On February 8, Kris Kirby wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2002, Eric Dittman wrote:
> > I do have my own class C network, not leased from an ISP or
> > anything like this. This is registered to me. I really need
> > to get around to using my assigned addresses with my DSL
> > provider instead of using the one IP address they are
> > currently providing.
>
> I wonder how many of you there are left. I know of exactly one other
> person who has his own Class C, and he got it because he was the network
> admin at $COMPANY.
I had one (204.91.10/24) until a few weeks ago. The abortion
formerly known as Digex just strongarmed ARIN and took it from me. I
registered the /16 that it's a subnet of (204.91/16), and I even know
a few people over there...and they STILL took it.
It REALLY pissed me off. (But hey, better pissed OFF than pissed ON,
right? I know...it depends on what you're into)
Don't think that because you've got it SWIP'd to you, and that your
name is all over it, that they can't simply take it away from you.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
Richard Erlacher wrote:
> According to my recollection, and the data books I still have, the WD100x-55
> controllers were NOT SASI bridges.
>
> On what do you base your belief that the WD1001-55 uses a SASI interface?
>
> see below, plz.
> - Snip--------------------------------------------------
Sorry I guess the wheels where not on track last night when I tried to cover 10
E-mails
in one post. Dick is absolutely right, this is Not SASI interface..
I have All the manuals, software and drawings for the molecular including the WD
1001 5.5 manual.
I'm working on 2 Seattle computer Gazelles, the Molecular and A Big board system
all the at the same time.. They all start to blend together.
Sorry for the wasted time.
- Jerry
Jerry Wright
JLC inc
g-wright(a)worldnet.att.net
And thusly rbernardo spake:
> From homestead-admin(a)videocam.net.au Thu Feb 7 23:51:49 2002
> From: rbernardo <rbernardo(a)mail.value.net>
> To: homestead(a)videocam.net.au
> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:21:46 -0800 (PST)
>
> While cruising through the newsgroups, rec.games.vectrex and
> rec.games.video.classic, I found this posting from Tom Howe. He was
> interviewed on a morning t.v. news show, and 11 minutes total were
> devoted to his computer museum at his house. Among the items were
> various Commodores. (I didn't like it when the news anchors started
> taking potshots at Commodores.)
>
> If you have a PC or Mac, you can connect to the link below and scroll
> down the page to where Tom's video segment is in order to see the
> Quicktime movie. Be warned... it's 16 megs long, and even on the
> school computer with a T1 connection, it took many minutes to download.
>
> Truly,
> Robert Bernardo
> Fresno Commodore User Group
> http://videocam.net.au/fcug
>
> P.S. FYI, a Vectrex is a home videogame console from the early 1980's.
> It had a built-in vector graphics monitor, and the machine used a 6809
> processor.
>
> -------------
>
> From: Tom Howe (tom(a)cedmagic.com)
> Subj: Vectrex and 3D Imager on TV News Show
> Newsgroups: rec.games.vectrex, rec.games.video.classic
> Date: 2002-02-07 01:24:54 PST
>
> Hi:
>
> The Vectrex (or should I say Vootrex) along with the 3D Imager were
> shown in operation on the KPTV morning news show "Good Day Oregon". A
> QuickTime movie of the event can be downloaded from this URL (Scroll
> all the way down to the bottom of the page):
>
> http://www.cedmagic.com/misc/tv-movies/tv-movies.html
>
> This segment was about my computer museum, so it contains a number of
> other classics, including the Minivac 6010, IBM 5100 & 5150, Pet 2001,
> Apple III, Atari 2600, etc. The Vectrex segment is about half-way
> through.
>
> --Tom
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Homestead(a)videocam.net.au
> http://cbm.videocam.net.au/mailman/listinfo/homestead
>
On February 8, Kris Kirby wrote:
> > If anyone's intersted in putting classic systems on-line as BBS
> > systems, I'll gladly maintain a list of systems, telephone numbers,
> > hours of operation, etc. and make it available on my web site.
>
> I've a few questions. I missed the BBS era by just a few years; a friend
> of mine used to run one but shut it down eventually. How were nodes linked
> together? If every COM port is used for a modem, you're out of COM ports.
Depends on the software...early FidoNet nodes, for example,
exchanged messages across FidoNet via part-time dialup connections,
usually using the same modem that users dialed into...
> Were they independent BBSs that checked in with each other, or were they
> networked together over ethernet or (...) ?
Yup, generally the former.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
On February 7, Doc wrote:
> > > Ah. Service mode != Secure mode
> > > You need to be in the Service position.
> >
> > That sounds like it should be folled by ", baby!"
>
> You missed again, Dave. I put down my teacup about 20 seconds ago.
> But, LOL.
Damn. I'll have to work on my timing. ;)
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
On February 7, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
> The ACCRC has a couple IBM 3390 things. I take it these are disk drive
> arrays? I also take it these are fairly comntemporary and can probably be
> sold to someone?
Sridhar is here, and says it's a disk controller.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
On February 7, Doc wrote:
> > Well, it's 'whacked' -- i poped the cylinder off of the switch part, and
> > turned the switch by hand (verified, it doesn't boot when it should be in
> > 'Secure' mode). Still, not a drop out of either of the two serial ports.
> > I've checked them with a RatShack RS-232 led box, and everthing's
> 'wired
> > up' correctly it seems. Even tried two different null-modems with them.
> > Right now, the last thing that the LED display shows is '522'. (which just
> > stays on there, doesn't disappear)
> >
>
> Ah. Service mode != Secure mode
> You need to be in the Service position.
That sounds like it should be folled by ", baby!"
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
Check out the PostScript document at the following URL; it appears to
be a rather nice document, containing a lot of information, about
computer terminals (over 100 pages):
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/linux/HOWTO/ps/Text-Terminal-HOWTO.ps.gz
--
Copyright (C) 2001 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals:
All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature &
rdd(a)rddavis.org 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such
http://www.rddavis.org beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.
In my case it's SGI, DEC and Sun stuff, along with
anything really _unusual_ that I may run across.
I currently have:
SGI: 4D/20, 4D/35, 4D/70, 4D/85, 4D/440VGXT, 4D/480VGXT Predator,
Crimson, Indigo, Indigo2, Indy, O2
Sun: SS2 w/GT, IPX, LX, i386, 4/330, 4/670, SS1000E, Ultra2
Dec: PDP10(KS10), 11/05, 11/84, Pro380,
VS2000, VS3100, VS3500, VS4000/90, VS4000/300,
RL02, RM80, TS10, Incomplete TU56 (I'd love to
find the cardset for the drive, and a TC11 controller.)
Unusual things: S/36, Rolm 1602B, Imsai,
Things I'd love to find:
Vax 6000 or 9000 series critter,
Cray of any type,
SGI Origin 200, Octane, Onyx (Predator),
A woman who can tolerate me and my obsession.
-al-
-acorda(a)1bigred.com
Does anyone have any information (manuals, schematics, engineering drawings,
etc.) for the Data General 6227 drives? I think they were 15mb units.
Also was given a description of a DG computer thusly - "DG 4x16-slot
computer with 128Kb RAM". Can anyone tell me what this is likely to be?
Thanks in advance!
Jay West
> Somewhat out of question, but does anyone know of any software that would
> download a web site, or a portion, to a local disk? IE, I would want to be
> able to archive part of a web site onto a CDrom, without having to manually
> save every image and web page, and manually edit the html links, etc.
Throughout this thread, no one has made mention of the thing
that makes automating thid process nearly impossible...
ISO9660 CD's are limited to containing filenames of no more
than 32 characters in length. At least, everytime I try to
burn a CD, those web pages I've saved that have filenames
that are longer result in a dialog box that requires me to
either type an alternate name or accept the munged version
that it creates itself. Doing this en masse would require
quite a bit of attention to detail in the utility program.
Comments?
-dq
Hi Dick
Sorry for the delay, just had to dig further into this. Brief history, the
Molecular
came to me dead in more than one area. I got the main processor going with a
new Counter timer chip. At that point I could not Read or Write to the hard
drives
but the Floppy was fine. The WD 1001 SASI to MFM controller was not seeing or
interfacing with the drives. The SASI connection seemed ok. I pulled the first
hard drive and attached it to a PC. It formatted fine with no errors. HD's are
Seagate ST 419 15 meg 5 1/4 Drives. So I replace the cables and looked into
the controlled further. Could not find a true cause of the problem with the
controller.
It seemed to not select the drive, nor the head.
I finally gave up and robbed one of my other systems of WD 1000 to try. I did
get
the Light to come on on the First drive when it booted. I stopped there and
Posted
a request for a controller in comp.os.cpm.
Did not find one and after many months just setting I decided to Give the system
an-
other try. I tried formatting the drives. It just hung there for ever. I
retried this on one
of the other drives, still just hung. So I posted to this list. Since I
received more that one Email that the other SASI to MFM controllers should work.
I went back and looked
further. The hanging was due to the fact that the Heads on the the Drives where
eating the Platters and the controller just could not format the drive. After
putting the Drive back on the PC, the PC Controller had all kinds of errors. I
remove the cover and found the disks are bad.
All three drives have the same problems. These are 306 cylinder 6 heads. I have
about 50 Dives but none with this head and cylinder count. So I don't really
know
if I really do need the correct controller yet or not. I do need a seagate ST
419
or similar drive though. I still would like a WD 1001 5.5. for 2 reasons. 1 to
keep the
Molecular original and 2 to help trouble shoot the other controller.
For those following this Post. In the earlier days, the SASI interface was used
to interface to these controllers which could control up to 4 MFM drives. They
came in 2 sizes. One would attach directly to a 5 1/4" drive the other (which
I have )
was 7" x 10" and could come set up for controlling either 5 1/4 HD's or 8"
hard drives.
I don't know what real code differences there are between the controllers. There
is
a different clock and interface for the 8" hard drives. The chips used and the
layout is
quit different between the different boards.
SASI is the early version of SCSI. It had most of the same signals and has a 50
pin connector.
One big difference is what all the pins where used for. The one here has the
power and
ground for the WD 1001 card supplied though the cable. Others have a separate
power connector.
For those that though I needed a PC ISA card. I guess they just used the next
number
in line when the made the WD 1002 xxx ISA bus to MFM controller.
What is a Molecular?? It is a Z-80 basic multi user system. It had 1) Z-80
computer that controlled the Disk system and 4 to 10 slave cards that each user
was connected to through
a dumb terminal. OS is CPM and Nstar.
Thanks, again
Jerry
Jerry Wright
JLC inc.
g-wright(a)worldnet.att.net
Richard Erlacher wrote:
> What differences does your system rely on? I once had WD1000, 1001, and 1002
> boards, all interchangeable in the TVI TS-806. I do recall there were
> differences, but I don't recall how they might impact you.
>
> regards,
>
> Dick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "g-wright" <g-wright(a)worldnet.att.net>
> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 3:54 PM
> Subject: Looking for a WD 1001 55 Disk controller
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I'm trying to get a Molecular going. it has Bad disk controller. WD
> > 1001 55
> >
> > Does anyone have one of theses that they can spare.
> >
> > I have 1000 series But there is a difference.
> >
> > E-mail me at address below
> >
> > Thanks, Jerry
> >
> > Jerry Wright
> > JLC inc.
> > g-wright(a)worldnet.att.net (new)
> >
> >
I apologise for the duplicate posts. My ISP's mail system had a hiccup,
and told me it had bounced the mail -- but apparently it didn't.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
I'm looking for a replacement for this piece of hardware (Central Point
Deluxe Option Board aka. CopyIIPC Option Board). I have a large
selection of NeXT hardware that I would be willing to trade for, or
would be willing to purchase. Also have a selection of TrackStar
boards. E-mail if interested.
Jeffrey H. Ingber (jhingber _at_ ix.netcom.com)
On Feb 7, 15:33, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
> ISO9660 CD's are limited to containing filenames of no more
> than 32 characters in length. At least, everytime I try to
> burn a CD, those web pages I've saved that have filenames
> that are longer result in a dialog box that requires me to
> either type an alternate name or accept the munged version
> that it creates itself. Doing this en masse would require
> quite a bit of attention to detail in the utility program.
The standard says 31 characters, IIRC. You want to use the Rock Ridge
extensions, which allow filenames up to 256 characters (like most UNIX
systems) and also removes some other restrictions, such as not having
subdirectories more than 7 levels below the root, and some of the
restrictions of characters in filenames.
Utilities such as mkisofs do Rock Ridge extensions, Joliet, and translation
tables for DOS.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Feb 7, 14:42, John Foust wrote:
> At 03:33 PM 2/7/2002 -0500, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
> >ISO9660 CD's are limited to containing filenames of no more
> >than 32 characters in length. At least, everytime I try to
> >burn a CD, those web pages I've saved that have filenames
> >that are longer result in a dialog box that requires me to
> >either type an alternate name or accept the munged version
> >that it creates itself.
>
> If you're gathering files on a Windows PC, and using PC-based
> burning software, they all support the "Joliet" extensions
> which allow 255-char paths. Maybe you should tell us which
> platforms and packages you're using.
PLEASE don't use Joliet for anything that might want to be read on other
systems. Another case of MS needlessly reinventing the wheel. Rock Ridge
is portable, and is also understood by Windows.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Feb 7, 14:42, John Foust wrote:
> At 03:33 PM 2/7/2002 -0500, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
> >ISO9660 CD's are limited to containing filenames of no more
> >than 32 characters in length. At least, everytime I try to
> >burn a CD, those web pages I've saved that have filenames
> >that are longer result in a dialog box that requires me to
> >either type an alternate name or accept the munged version
> >that it creates itself.
>
> If you're gathering files on a Windows PC, and using PC-based
> burning software, they all support the "Joliet" extensions
> which allow 255-char paths. Maybe you should tell us which
> platforms and packages you're using.
Please don't use Joliet for anything that might want to be read on other
systems. Another case of MS needlessly reinventing the wheel. Rock Ridge
is portable, and is also understood by Windows.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Feb 7, 15:33, Douglas Quebbeman wrote:
> ISO9660 CD's are limited to containing filenames of no more
> than 32 characters in length. At least, everytime I try to
> burn a CD, those web pages I've saved that have filenames
> that are longer result in a dialog box that requires me to
> either type an alternate name or accept the munged version
> that it creates itself. Doing this en masse would require
> quite a bit of attention to detail in the utility program.
The standard says 31 characters, IIRC. You want to use the Rock Ridge
extensions, which allow filenames up to 256 characters (like most UNIX
systems) and also removes some other restrictions, such as not having
subdirectories more than 7 levels below the root, and some of the
restrictions of characters in filenames.
Utilities such as mkisofs do Rock Ridge extensions, Joliet, and translation
tables for DOS.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On February 7, John Allain wrote:
> My last company hired me for Alpha/Unix work and
> moved me in parts to Pentium/NT. I did leave.
Good! :-)
> Do realize that the choice in the matter is going
> away slowly.
From my perspective, that progression has slowed down to a crawl...A
few months ago, I started hearing rumblings about "NT to UNIX
migration services" and such.
People really are starting to get a clue. It's taken far too long,
and there's a LONG way to go...but people are definitely getting a
clue. Three years ago, when I said to someone "eew, you're running
windows" the response was "I LOVE WINDOWS!!"...nowadays its "I know,
it sucks, I hate it, but I have no choice right now." I'm not talking
about isolated incidents...I'm talking about EVERYONE I speak
to...even several suits.
I think this is hugely significant, and it should give us hope.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf
On Feb 6, 19:40, Steve Robertson wrote:
> The system has a hard drive, dual floppies, and 4 serial ports (plus
> console) on the rear panel. I hooked up a terminal and am able to talk to
> the system. However, when it tries to boot but gives a message:
>
> "DEVICE TT001: Not in configuration"
> "RSX 11M V 4.1 BL35E 1024K mapped"
>
> It stops at that point and won't go any further. I can ^C and get a "MCR>
> prompt" and talk to the system but it won't *do* anything.
>
> Am I doing something wrong or is this the expected behavior when the OS
is
> broken?
Nice find. It's ages since I ran RSX-11M, but I thought TT001: was the
console. Hmm. Maybe TT000: is the console, in which case it's telling you
the first additional serial line is missing. Could be a card (likely a
DLV11-J or a DZV11 if there are 4 D-connectors) missing, or misconfigured
since the system was last booted. RSX-11M is picky about missing hardware.
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Pete Peter Turnbull
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University of York