- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by torquil＠rockbridge.net

Hi guys, Sridhar showed me some VAXen today and i was hooked. I've gotta have one :). I was wondering if any of you have a MicroVAX 4000/VLC? Thanks, torquil

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Tru64 (was: Re: MicroVAX 4000/VLC)

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jochen Kunz [mailto:jkunz@unixag-kl.fh-kl.de] > Sent: 25 February 2002 23:35 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Tru64 (was: Re: MicroVAX 4000/VLC) > > > I've sort of been wondering, since we're on AXP anyway, is anybody > > at all still running Tru64 or NT on Alpha? > I am runing Tru64 5.1 on a PWS 500au. > > > Everyone I know who owns AXP runs either *BSD or Linux or OpenVMS, > > including me. NetBSD flat screams on the LX164. Our whole company is based on Tru64 and OpenVMS.......Tru64 whips the llama's ass for features and stability; it's filesystem capabilities are second to none and it's the only u**x that utilises *true* clustering in the same manner as VMSclusters. Plus, this week Compaq released record breaking benchmarks with a 4-way ES45, Tru64 5.1A and Oracle 9i which is good for us since that's what we do :) -- Adrian Graham, Corporate Microsystems Ltd e: adrian.graham(a)corporatemicrosystems.com w: www.corporatemicrosystems.com w2: www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk (Online Computer Museum)

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Archiving Apple II disks

by paul＠wccnet.org

The Macintosh can archive Apple II 3.5" disk with Disk Copy, but I prefer to use an Apple II native archiving format for all my Apple II disks. I use ShrinkIt v3.4 to create both 5.25" and 3.5" Apple II compressed disk images, and transfer the files over a serial link to a PC. There they can be recorded onto an ISO 9660 CD-ROM. The files can be transferred back to an Apple II and converted to a real disk again. I have transferred over 25MB of Apple II disk images this way. On the PC the ShrinkIt files can be manipulated with Nulib and Mapper to create .DSK images to use with emulators. Paul R. Santa-Maria Monroe, Michigan USA

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STAPLES STORES WILL TAKE OLD COMPUTERS

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>And the other >day I heard an anecdote from someone who works in a retail >clothing shop at a nearby mall - that franchise doesn't even >bother prosecuting shoplifting unless it's more than $1,000. When I worked in Disney World, we were specically told to ignore shoplifters from mechandise carts... the stuff wasn't valuable enough to warrant the hassles involved in stopping a thief. That is pretty sad when you consider that many of those carts carried items that sold for $50 and up (one near my attraction sold $100 pairs of sunglasses... I always wondered what kind of a markup Disney was making on them to not care about someone stealing them) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Question for Tony or other Old-Chip Wizzards

by sipke＠wxs.nl

The 2147 that I thought I still had turned out to be MB2149-45 (Fujitsu). I vaguely recall that they are indeed compatible with the 2147 but their pin-outs are mirrored The datecode = 8204 45 = 450ns accesstime Can you confirm this (I can't find the databook right now) Regards, Sipke de Wal ---------------------------------------------------

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Rush! ( was: RE: Once in a Lifetime, Twice in Forever)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 25, Doc wrote: > The last time I saw them was in Lubbock in '92?, the tour with the 30' > bunny-rabbits on stage. The 5'2" teenybopper next to me, a total > stranger, spent the entire show standing tippy-toe on my motorcycle > helmet. One of the best rock shows I've seen since Black Oak Arkansas > broke up. Ahh, the Presto tour. I caught that one a couple of times. Was the 5'2" teenybopper cute? -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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BBC story: Computer Dumping 'polluting Asia'

by PasserM＠umkc.edu

Saw a referemce to this BBC story on Slashdot about China's problem dealing with old computers dumped there: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1839000/1839997.stm

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Magnetic media and mold cleanup

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Does anyone know of a way to remove the mold that won't damage the > magnetic media? Also, does anyone remember the trick to opening the > shutter on these 8" cartridges? For floppies, I just break 'em open any way I can, and then use bare, clean hands with dish detergent. Let dry on a lint-free rag and you're through. For 9-track magtapes that had either mold or lichens growing (after a flood), I unspooled and manually cleaned about 100 feet of the tape using Formula 409. The tape was subsequently readable, recovering 100% of the data and programs on the last night my Prime was still operational; however, I was using my previously-discussed "wet read" technique. Regards, -dq

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Rush! ( was: RE: Once in a Lifetime, Twice in Forever)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 25, David Woyciesjes wrote: > 'Rush' is for up-tempo rock, Great programming music. > "Power Windows" is a good album to start with. > Their lyrics are written by the drummer, if that's any > indication. Ahh yes, Rush is my all-time favorite band. Wonderful stuff! -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Rush! ( was: RE: Once in a Lifetime, Twice in Forever)

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: John Allain > > > For the others of us who may also lead sheltered > > lives, he's the lead vocal and Bass for Rush, the > > rock band. > > 'Rush' is for up-tempo rock, Great programming music. > "Power Windows" is a good album to start with. > Their lyrics are written by the drummer, if that's any > indication. > This may not help my argument here, but the cover art > from PW was used on one of those High Falutin' think > tank magazines recently, Wilson Quarterly IIRC, even > though the album was made nearly 20 years ago. > > John A. ---- Hmmm... Being quite the Rush fan (waiting for them to finish the albumn, and come around on tour!), I have to politely disagree with the Power Windows recommendation. My suggestion is to buy the Chronicles 2 CD set. It's probably on tape too, maybe even vinyl! You should be able to find it used. It covers Rush's first 20 years, and the style changes they've went through. If not that, I would recommend Rush (first albumn) for good classic rock, or Roll The Bones and Test For Echo for more modern rock. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Packing materials

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Paxton <Innfogra(a)aol.com> wrote: > I should also mention The US Postal Service. If you ship Priority or Express > Mail they will give you boxes, tape and labels. Not only will they give you the boxes and other supplies, they will deliver the stuff to you. You can go to the PO and get an order form, fill it out, and mail it (postage paid). You can also go to www.usps.com or call their 800 number. The minimum order for most boxes is 1 bundle of 25 boxes. There is also a minimum on some other items. All this is listed on the form. IIRC, they send you a letter asking you to estimate future needs and also ask you to verify that you intend to use the stuff for its intended purpose. Yeah, right, like I intended to use them for my bottlecap collection. ;) So if you're constantly sending your small stuff to other packrats^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H collectors on this list, this may be a way to go. Probably as close to a free lunch as you can get these days. Mike

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10BaseT Friendlynet media adapter

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Anyone one in NJ care for 2 Asante FN10TA (free)? I bid on 2 EN/SC 10T >and they shipped the wrong stuff. They've said I could keep it and I'm >hoping they'll find the EN/SC's. If no one else wants them, I'll take them (I have an extra or two right now, so if someone else wants them, give them first dibs) I'm in Ridgewood (North-East NJ) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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MicroVAX 4000/VLC

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

> I've sort of been wondering, since we're on AXP anyway, is anybody at > all still running Tru64 or NT on Alpha? > Everyone I know who owns AXP runs either *BSD or Linux or OpenVMS, > including me. NetBSD flat screams on the LX164. I have a PWS500a with 3x4Gb disks ... two are dedicated to Linux and one is Tru64... I can boot whichever I want whenever. My other alpha is an AXPpci33 166Mhz CPU overclocked to 200Mhz, rock solid and running Linux (working on getting RHL7.2 on it to do some testing) Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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OT: HP 9Track questions

by g＠kurico.com

Does anyone know the differences between the 7980S and the 88780A 9track tape drives? If you could only have one, which one would you keep? George

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SPAM - RFC from list admin

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I have noticed a few pieces of spam lately on the list. Our mail server checks all the normal relaying databases, so that has kept most of the spam out for ages. However, now a few have trickled in and it bugs me a bit. In the past it has been suggested that the list be closed - ie. only subscribers could post to the list. I have always avoided that because fairly frequently someone will post from a non-subscriber that they have equipment available, and I don't want to take that opportunity away from the list. I see two options: 1) I can close the list from non-subscriber posts or perhaps 2) I can require non-subscriber posts be approved before I send them to the list I would prefer to do number 2 above. However, this does give me the ability to occasionally see available equipment before the rest of the list. Of course I wouldn't abuse this, but - I don't even want that perception. So.... advice please? Regards, Jay Wests

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Anyone have A TI Explorer ?

by aek＠spies.com

This site was down for a while, but it's back again http://www.unlambda.com/lispm/ They're attempting to get a TI Explorer simulator working, and they're looking for an Explorer I (looks like they have the disc image for an Explorer II) Pretty impressive effort, and I think it's worth helping these folks out, if you can.

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Calling all borgs!!

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 18, 20:54, Ron Hudson wrote: > Please! > > I want your borg lines! I want them to create a new > file for "fortune" (of linux/Unix fame) will also > post compiled to the list! (I am also copying my > other list so they can help out too!) A few I saved years ago: I am Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. I am Dyslexia of Borg. Fusistance is retile. Your ass will be laminated. We are Heisenborg: You will probably be assimilated. Yoda of Borg are we: Futile is resistance. Assimilate you, we will. We are Ebola of Borg: Vaccines are irrelvant. We are resistant. We are Rambo of Borg: Resistance is the disease. We are the cure. We are McCoy of Borg: He's assimilated, Jim! We are Fudd of Borg: Pwepawre to be aswimiwated. BorgerKing: We do it our way. Your way is irrelevant. I am Hamlet of Borg. You are to be, or not to be, assimilated. Calculus of Borg: Resistance is futile. You will be differentiated. Physics of Borg: Assimilation is futile. Resistance is ubiquitous. Chemistry of Borg: Resistance is futile. You will be titrated. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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ebay Item # 2004360621 (fwd)

by pat＠purdueriots.com

Well, this guy seemed to show some interest. -- Pat ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 15:57:42 -0500 From: rogerpcre <rogercarr(a)pcreanimators.com> To: Pat Finnegan <pat(a)purdueriots.com> Subject: RE: ebay Item # 2004360621 Brian, What is "IC". By the way, I really appreciate your email. Thanks, Roger -----Original Message----- From: Pat Finnegan [mailto:pat@purdueriots.com] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 2:52 PM To: rogercarr(a)pcreanimators.com Subject: ebay Item # 2004360621 Just thought you might want to know what you _really_ have there. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 07:46:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: what the heck is THIS? On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Brian Knittel wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2004360621 > > Anyone know what this is? It looks like a test probe maybe, one of those > things that they press against an IC under test and which brings out all the > leads for probing? Or, what? Doesn't look like it has anything to do with > disk drives. Your assessment is correct. It's an IC test mechanism. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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3M Super Strength Adhevise SUCKS!

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 18, 20:53, Tothwolf wrote: > On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, John Allain wrote: > > > > Methylene Chloride > > > > Sounds like a contact toxin. Want SI to get THAT on his hands? > > *shrug* It's sold in hobby shops for bonding different types of plastic. I > certainly would avoid getting the stuff on my hands, just to be safe. It's not especially dangerous, as solvents go. "Hazards in the Chemical Laboratory" describes it as a "Colourless volatile liquid with chloroform-like odour; B.P. 40C; immiscible with water. Harmful vapour. Irritating to eyes. [these two are standard hazchem warnings] Avoid breathing vapour. Avoid contact with eyes and skin. TLV 100ppm. Toxic effects: The vapour irritates the eyes and respiratory system and may cause headache and nausea. High concentrations may result in cyanosis and unconsciousness. The liquid irritates the eyes. Assumed to be poisonous if taken by mouth." For comparison, the TLV for iso-propyl alcohol is 400ppm, for MEK, 200ppm, and for the methyl methacrylate in superglue, also 100ppm (TLV is "threshold limit value" -- think of this as a concentration to which a normal person can be repeatedly exposed, daily, without adverse effect, but be aware that accepted TLV's vary from country to country). Methylene chloride is commonly used in paint stripper (the kind that doesn't have caustic soda etc is typically 80% methylene chloride), as a propellant in aerosol sprays, and in shampoo. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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OT: RE: Packing materials

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

The USPS has started printing identifying markings on the _inside_ of their boxes, because so many people were turning them inside out to use for other purposes. -----Original Message----- From: Chad Fernandez [mailto:fernande@internet1.net] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 11:05 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Packing materials People like turning them inside out and sending them Fedex, UPS, overseas, etc. I only do that if the box is second hand to me. Although, I rarely ship with someone other that USPS, anyway. Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA <snip>

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chip 82s100

by zahid_56＠yahoo.com

i have a a chip 82s100 it is programmed, i have it using it with 8o86 processor, i dont have the truth table of that prorammed chip,now i want to read its table or copy the same chip ,what is the procedure for it __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com

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Once in a Lifetime, Twice in Forever

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] > On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Ron Hudson wrote: > > For the others of us who may also lead sheltered > > lives, he's the lead vocal and Bass for Rush, the > > rock band. > No, no, no, no! > The appropriate description is: > "Ohhh, woww, man! Geddy Lee, yeahhh........" I also feel compelled to point out -- for those who may not know of it -- that Rush had a sort of "concept album" called "2112," which is how we got into this in the first place. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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OT Vinyl to MP3

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:edick@idcomm.com] > I think you'll find this depends more on your definition of > "wonderful" which > may be "acceptable" even to me, fussy as I am, but anything > powered with the > PSU of a PC, even in its own enclosure, will not give > signal-to-noise ratio > worthy of the designation "audiophile." You might get 20, or > even 30 db, but > you should have at least 80 db and preferably 120 db of SNR > and less PSU > feed-through than that. I've seen only one card that came > anywhere close to > that and it was encased in a copper-plated steel shield and > powered with a > battery that it charged when it wasn't in use. It was not a > commercial unit. FWIW, there are also high-end PCI audio subsystems which accept direct digital input (and provide output) to an external rackmount DAC/ADC, which usually has several 1/4", RCA(?), and XLR connectors. Those would probably qualify, since by the time the audio got to the point of being affected by the noise of the PSU, it would be in digital form. I suppose that you could also do the same kind of thing with a normal (relatively cheap -- like sound blaster live) board, by using only SPDIF connections, and getting a set of speakers, or separate amp that will accept SPDIF in (for playback). There are even a couple of record players with SPDIF out (I've always wondered why, and this seems as good a reason as any) -- that would solve the problem nicely. I have a set of Altec-Lanseng powered speakers which have a somewhat OK frequency response, and accept SPDIF in. They work very well with my dedicated hard disk recorder. So, um, anyway, this is starting to diverge from on-topic. :) Regards, Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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PDP11 Redux, or Behind-The-Scenes Bull

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Doc --- I, and everyone (well, almost!) can understand your anger, but whatever happens, don't leave us! Whenever I'm looking for info on a possible deal, whether I'm the buyer or seller, I always kept the details about the other parties an locations quiet for just this reason. It always made me feel a little bad, not quite honest, that I shouldn't do that. But every time I hear about this kind of crap, it gets easier for next time. Shouldn't be that way, not among friends. As for the culprit, since it was an offense against Doc, it's up to him as to whether or not the name should be revealed. I trust he'll come up with appropriate revenge. Personally, I'd drop some hints, then the name, and watch the f***er fry in the ensuing flame war. But that's just me. --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 90581 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash > ---------- > From: Doc Shipley > > Y'all, > I posted a couple of days ago with questions concerning the value of, > and locating info for, a PDP11/93, for which I'm negotiating . I got > some good responses on-list, and a couple of very helpful suggestions > off-list. > > And today, one enterprising soul, a long-standing list subscriber, > found MDR's website from my email address. He both emailed and called > my boss today trying to buy the machine out from under me... >

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Packing suggestions (was Re: PDP11 Redux, or Behind-The-Scene s Bull)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Tothwolf [mailto:tothwolf@concentric.net] > I'd recommend people who reuse peanuts _not_ mix the two > types together. > Biodegradable peanuts go bad, and must be removed from a batch of the > styrofoam type before they are dumped into the peanut bin or hopper. > Removing a few 100 biodegradable peanuts from a box of > styrofoam peanuts > is a very tough chore... Nah -- just dump them in a bucket of water, and wait a minute ;) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Packing suggestions (was Re: PDP11 Redux, or Behind-The-ScenesBull)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 23, Sellam Ismail wrote: > No, I don't use old-assed boxes that are ready to fall apart. Everything > I have is still in very good condition and does the job. Nobody has ever > received anything from me that wasn't in the same condition as when it > left. Old-assed boxes? Boxes with old asses? Personally, I'd laugh my ass off if I saw a box with ANY kind of ass...young, old, or otherwise. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Packing suggestions (was Re: PDP11 Redux, or Behind-The-Scene s Bull)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] > Bubble wrap is always recommended for everything. Can I quote you on that? Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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This is funny (ebay)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] > He says that it is "used but very reliable". How long has he > been using > it for SCSI 1 to serial conversion? Probably ever since he got his machintosh with a serial port, but no SCSI on the back ;) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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MIDI on an Atari ST

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Glen Goodwin [mailto:acme_ent@bellsouth.net] > You cannot transfer a sample to a non-sampling synth. All > you can send it > is MIDI and patch data. Obviously, but I think you misunderstood me. I was talking about converting the ST into a sampler -- just for kicks. What I've heard about the audio hardware on this model since then tells me that it probably wouldn't be worth the trouble. > MIDI and sampling are unrelated. Only until you want to send MIDI control messages to the sampler. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Once in a Lifetime, Twice in Forever

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > exept for the time 21:12 21/12 2112. > > Hey, is that Geddy Lee I hear in the distance? No, old man, it's tinnitis... <grin> -dq

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OT:mac parts

by pat＠purdueriots.com

Does anyone know of a place (better than eBay) to get parts for olders Mac's (specifically I would like to get an AV board for a 5260, a nubus angle/riser card for a 6100, and maybe for a Quadra 610). eBay seems to have some of the stuff, but neither frequently nor great quantity. Any help is greatly appreciated. -- Pat

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FS: older hardware, mainly PC

by fernande＠internet1.net

Hello, I'm sorting through things, and would like to find new homes for the following: -IBM 68X3815 MFM hard drive controller from AT with original cables -various mfm cables -IBM PC Network Baseband Adpater/A (new in the box, Microchannel) -Microchannel 4 port serial board (uses 16450 uart chips, but they are replaceable, with cable) -Seagate ST11200N 1gig narrow scsi drive (maybe going bad, I have 4 and never marked which one was going) -Seagate ST51080N 1gig narrow SCSI drive, 1/3 height drive -Microsoft Windows for Workgroups Add-On on 3.5" floppies in box -Red Hat Linux 5.2 "secure server edition" from Best Buy, from Macmillan Press -PFS: Professional Write (early edition, in in vinyl binder) -PFS: Professional Plan (early edition, in in vinyl binder) -Intel 386dx-33 with glued on heatsink -386dx compatible or upgrade chip, maybe Cyrix, I glued the heatsink on, can't tell exactly what it is anymore :-) -Kensington System Saver for Apple //e -IBM keyboard cable for PC or XT, I think, maybe AT. It's not from a Model M -2 generic VGA cables (all pins present, so may not work with some monitors) -din 8 to db9 Mac serial cable?? -2 standard black power cords -1 powercord with female connector for plugging into power supply to power monitor or cd-rom -db25 to db9 convertor -7 5.25" bay covers, some plastic, some steel, from various cases -Titanic Adventure out of Time (windows/Mac cd-rom, game/tour) -1/2 height faceplate for Seagate ST225 -IBM PC (5150) full height block off plate for unused second drive bay -Fellows EMI glare shield for 14" to 15" monitor -3 internal narrow scsi cable with external centronics connector (ask for measurements) -long 5 device narrow scsi cable (generic) -3 two device narrow scsi cables -1 two foot single device narrow scsi cable (folded for low cross section) -several vary short narrow scsi cables, some with connectors like you would find on a card Much of these items are not high very valuable, but may be just what a person here is looking for. I'd like to get $5 to $10, plus shipping, for whatever smaller grouping of items that you want. In other words make an offer for whatever your interested in, I'm not trying to make a fortune, I just don't want to give everything away this time. Please reply off list. Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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RT-11

by jhfine＠idirect.com

I noticed this item. While I think it is a bit high for one issue, does anyone know of or have a set of these? How many were issued with a primary focus on RT-11? Were any scanned and are they available? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2005043518

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NEC products (was Re: NEC Multisync Color Monitor - $25)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> I've tried to get NEC items serviced twice, once was a NEW Multispped > laptop and the other was a NEC Versa laptop. Both times service was by > independent shops (that didn't even seLl NEC!) and both times it was a > total fiasco! I'll think long and hard before I buy another NEC product! > > Joe It's true that NEC *computers* really suck. NEC monitors, however, have been exceptionally reliable in my experience. Glen 0/0

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MISSED TAM

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 24, John R. Keys Jr. wrote: > Yesterday the wife and I went looking around and we made Goodwill our > last stop of the day. I found the remote control for the 20th MAC TAM > there for $1.99, so I asked the guys about the computer and sure enough > it was sold that morning for $12.99 plus tax. They also sold a large > lot of machines (Compaq's) to one guy for cheap. It seems Compaq has > given the Goodwill Corp. here a very large number of computers starting > this past Thursday. Those folks in Houston keep your eyes open as they > go fast.. A TAM for thirteen bucks? Oh MAN that's a great deal. I've turned down a few $700.00+ offers for mine. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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OT Vinyl to MP3

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> > For those of us who want high-fidelity, well, we have to build our own stuff, > because it won't work very well inside a computer regardless how much it > costs. This is simply not true. The M-Audio Audiophile 2496 PCI card gives me absolutely wonderful results, and I only paid $159 for it. Glen 0/0

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OT:mac parts

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Does anyone know of a place (better than eBay) to get parts for olders >Mac's (specifically I would like to get an AV board for a 5260, a nubus >angle/riser card for a 6100, and maybe for a Quadra 610). eBay seems to >have some of the stuff, but neither frequently nor great quantity. > >Any help is greatly appreciated. Check out LowEndMac.com and look in their List Servers area. There is a list called LEW-Swap. It is basically a classified ads place for Mac parts... all 3 parts you say you are looking for I have seen come across the list in the last 2 weeks as for sale. (the Q610 Nubus adaptor was just listed 2 or 3 days ago). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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NEC products (was Re: NEC Multisync Color Monitor - $25)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> > DOes that apply to classic NEC computers, like the PC8001 and PC8201? I > ahve the former somewhere (found it years ago for a silly price, never > got round to invetigating it). It's been a *long* time, but IIRC there is a dip switch on the mainboard which relates to the amount of RAM in use, so adding or removing RAM is impossible unless you know the proper settings for this switch. > > been exceptionally reliable in my experience. > > Just as well, considering that parts are generally totally unavailable. As is any sort of useful tech support. I have a PowerMate 286 with a small SCSI hard drive which I use as a file server for my ZX81. The unit was a bit of a mess when it landed on my doorstep. I called NEC to ask about the SCSI i/f and was *very rudely* told that the i/f was for tape units only, and would *never* work with a hard drive. When I insisted that the box was booting DOS from the SCSI hard drive, the support droid put me on hold, got his supervisor on the line, and asked me to repeat what I'd said about the box booting from the hard drive. They both laughed like maniacs, one of them called me a moron, and then they hung up on me. NEC == Not Enough Cash in the known universe to induce me to purchase any of their products (except raw semis). Glen 0/0

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compaq oldie

by robwill2＠wxs.nl

Hi, I have (amongst other machines) a Compaq Prolinea 3/25 zs computer with 4 Mb ram (boot message). When I open the case, over the memory banks is a shield with: 'don't remove this' on it.. I intended to add ram to come to 8 Mb, but I have only standard simms available. Would standard stuff fit in the sockets?? (I was told Compaq is generally non-standard!); Should I take the warning on the shielding for serious?? (I intend to do so). rob netherlands

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Need Information about Hitachi CDR-1700S CDROM drive

by kenword＠midwestinfo.net

Hi! I am a relative computer novice, with an interst using, reviving, and just plain messing with older stuff. I was recently given a Hitachi CDR-1700S drive. I have the drive, a cable, and an Interface card, and that's it. I'd like to try it out, but I don't know how. Does anybody out their have or know where to find a user's manual or other documentation? I also would like to find Windows 95/98, or Linux drivers for it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

24 years, 6 months

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Packing materials

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I think it interesting that the person who has the highest feedback rating on eBay sells packing materials. His seller name is parrothead88 and his current feedback rating is 27,412. He sells new bubble wrap along with boxes and mailers. His prices on eBay are more reasonable than his online store. I use recycled materials for shipping. I can buy used large and small bubble wrap and quality recycled boxes from a company in Portland, OR called Carton Services. They specialize in new and used packing materials. I am certain that any large city has a packaging materials dealer where you can get quality used packing materials. The used bubble wrap I buy come in a bag about 2+ feet by 6 feet and cost $15. The last bag I got was half pink. Yesterday I went by to get more and they were out with no idea when they will get more. I had to buy a roll of new. At Carton Services they also buy and sell cardboard cartons. Yesterday I bought two boxes the exact size I needed for $2 each. They had been part of an odd lot that they had bought, second hand but never used. I have sold them boxes also. Once I bought the contents of a shipping room at an auction. I got two pickup loads of new boxes that I sold Carton Services. I kept enough for me, sold the rest. there are quality recycled packing materials out there if you can look for them. I should also mention The US Postal Service. If you ship Priority or Express Mail they will give you boxes, tape and labels. I use this almost always for shipping circuit cards. The large flat priority mail boxes will hold up to 4 S100 cards or 2 quad Qbus cards. (to keep this on topic). I wrap or bag each card in anti-stat then wrap with large bubble. I have had no problems so far. Paxton Astoria, OR

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MISSED TAM

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>so I asked the guys about the computer and sure enough >it was sold that morning for $12.99 plus tax. I would have broken down crying right then and there if I just missed paying $13 for a TAM!!! At least you have the remote (which... BTW... IIRC, Apple uses a Sony code set for their remotes, so most universal remotes will work with it... my All For One remote code #000 can control so far all my remote capable Macs) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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MISSED TAM

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Yesterday the wife and I went looking around and we made Goodwill our last stop of the day. I found the remote control for the 20th MAC TAM there for $1.99, so I asked the guys about the computer and sure enough it was sold that morning for $12.99 plus tax. They also sold a large lot of machines (Compaq's) to one guy for cheap. It seems Compaq has given the Goodwill Corp. here a very large number of computers starting this past Thursday. Those folks in Houston keep your eyes open as they go fast..

24 years, 6 months

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PDP11 Redux, or Behind-The-Scenes Bull

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 23, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > And which brand/type of cyanoacrylic will e use to affix the > > > virtual pike to the virtual wall? > > > > > > Yes, Dave, I know. Virtual KrazyGlue. > > > > Nonono...Virtual epoxy. Mix the virtual base and the virtual > > hardener...hey wait, I dated her! > > > > -Dave "Virtual Epoxy Resin" McGuire > > Ahh, but was she cute? Well, she did have a, erm, "hardening" effect. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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PDP11 Redux, or Behind-The-Scenes Bull

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 23, Gene Buckle wrote: > > On February 23, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > > > And which brand/type of cyanoacrylic will e use to affix the > > > > > virtual pike to the virtual wall? > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Dave, I know. Virtual KrazyGlue. > > > > > > > > Nonono...Virtual epoxy. Mix the virtual base and the virtual > > > > hardener...hey wait, I dated her! > > > > > > > > -Dave "Virtual Epoxy Resin" McGuire > > > > > > Ahh, but was she cute? > > > > Well, she did have a, erm, "hardening" effect. ;) > > Gah. I should've known. I'm cured of asking such questions. Gotcha. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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I need an RM03...

by mbg＠theworld.com

24 years, 6 months

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This is funny (ebay)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Richard Erlacher" <edick(a)idcomm.com> wrote: > It's better than paying the $12.95 + tax at the BestBuy. Tee hee. I think the closest Best Buy to Jeff is in Laurel, Maryland. I was there a few days after Christmas. If they ever sold SCSI cables, those have been flushed to make room for USB cables. That's actually a lot of the problem where Jeff is: there are no retailers who sell cables cheaply from their storefronts. (At least I don't know where they are.) Sure, they have Best Buy and CompUSA and maybe Micro Center, but all you can get at the first two is cables in hard plastic packaging with colorful cardboard inserts that you end up paying for. If you need cheap cables, you wait for the next computer show to come round, and then you go to the meeting hall where it's being held and buy what you need from someone who deals there. Or if you're more technically inclined maybe you go to the next hamfest, but those are a warm-weather activity in that part of the world. Meanwhile, here in Sillycon Valley, if I need to paw through a rat's nest of serial or SCSI cables all I have to do is look in the right box in my bedroom. (Boxed rat's nests are much more manageable.) If what I need isn't there, I can pick it up at Fry's or Central Computer if I want new, or if I can take used I can find it at the next swap meet, or at the next CRC Saturday sale, or maybe at Weird Stuff. -Frank McConnell

24 years, 6 months

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DEC CIPCA cable

by jwbirdsa＠picarefy.com

Picked up a very odd DEC cable today. I've never seen anything like it before, which probably means somebody out there has been looking for one for years. :) You can see the two ends of it at www.picarefy.com/~jwbirdsa/transient/IMAGE034.JPG and www.picarefy.com/~jwbirdsa/transient/IMAGE035.JPG and it's labelled as a d|i|g|i|t|a|l 17-03427-01. It seems to be part of the CIPCA kit for high-end Alphas. Who need this? It's yours for postage. --James B.

24 years, 6 months

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"Programmer's Panel" for disk drives

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Yes! SMD - MSCP adapters for QBus VAXen are reletive easy to get. > Many Sun 3 machines have SMD adapters, The Sequent S27 I playd > with had SMD, ... SMD is a quite common intrface for "lager" > machines in the age of 10 to 15 years. "Lager" machines? Some of my machines "ale", some are rather somewhat "stout", and all have enough I/O "porters" to be useful. Anyone have any "Mead" computers? Or would those be Honeywells? (I know, some of you can beerly stand these OT posts)... ;)

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Update on Save The Computer Garage effort

by vcf＠vintage.org

Thanks to everyone who contributed to the Save The Computer Garage fund, we have met (actually surpassed) the $1000 goal. The community support has been phenomenal. Jim and I are now working on getting the back rent paid. Once that's under control, we'll then start figuring out the best option for getting the collection back to his barn in Kansas. Once again, thanks to everyone who contributed. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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OT Quad audio amps (was: cleaning pots on my vintage audio am p)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Chad Fernandez [mailto:fernande@internet1.net] > In order to really use it, you have to be playing a Quadraphonic > recorded record right? LP's were it back then, right? It must have a quadraphonic line-in if it's worth having around at all. :) (Hey, my <on topic>SGI has one...) Seriously, though, it's just an amplifier. It shouldn't matter what you're running through it. The signal will be analog only, of course, so no SPDIF without a converter. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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MIDI on an Atari ST

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Hi everybody, Here's an odd one. Hypothetically, if I have a keyboard, with no internal sampler (a hypothetical Ensoniq ZR-76, say... for which I could probably never hope to find the sampler upgrade board ;), and would like to use an Atari ST to do some sampling (and play back of samples, too -- triggered by the keyboard), is there a way to do it? I'm not familiar with Atari ST software, but I just happen to have an ST520 setting around not doing much, and wonder whether it could be used for this purpose. ISTR that STs had decent MIDI capabilities for the time. Otherwise, what sort of MIDI-ish stuff can be done with this machine? It might make a good secondary sequencer, patch editor, etc, anyway... Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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PDP11 Redux, or Behind-The-Scenes Bull

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On February 23, Doc wrote: > And which brand/type of cyanoacrylic will e use to affix the > virtual pike to the virtual wall? > > Yes, Dave, I know. Virtual KrazyGlue. Nonono...Virtual epoxy. Mix the virtual base and the virtual hardener...hey wait, I dated her! -Dave "Virtual Epoxy Resin" McGuire -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

24 years, 6 months

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eBay - Completely Off

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> > How's this for clueless eBay? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2004963299 > -- > Eric Dittman > dittman(a)dittman.net > Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/ > They might have picked that price by doing a search of dealer websites. Besides thats the BIN price. Nothing says you couldn't get it for something like $1. I'd be tempted to bid, but the cost of shipping scares me. Ah.... I think I see your point. A VAX-4000/300 that they're claiming is a 150Mhz Alpha? Zane

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eBay - Completely Off

by CordaAJ＠nswc.navy.mil

Wouldn't it be neat if we could get a bunch of us to bid on this in $0.01 increments? Perhaps by the end of the auction, it might be up to 50 or 60 cents? Unfortulately, someone might actually want it, and I'd hate to ruin their chances :-) BTW, this is _not_ a cut on VAXes... I _like_ the critters, and have a few myself :-) -al- -acorda(a)1bigred.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Dittman [mailto:dittman@dittman.net] > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 6:22 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: eBay - Completely Off > > > How's this for clueless eBay? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2004963299 > -- > Eric Dittman > dittman(a)dittman.net > Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/ >

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free for pickup

by fernande＠internet1.net

Hell0, Anybody need any plastic case parts from a DEC R400x DSSI expansion cabinet? I believe most of the parts fit the BA440 case, as well. I don't have the base, However. While not really part of the case, I do have the backplane, as well. Please reply off list. Thanks, Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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This is funny (ebay)

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>SCSI to serial cable :-) > >http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2004730888 So how reliable is the person's comment that it is "well used, but very reliable". If they have been plugging it into a serial port, it hasn't been doing a thing... if they have been pluging it into a SCSI port and THOUGHT it was serial... can they be trusted to know that it is "reliable". -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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This is funny (ebay)

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>I think this cable is for an external SCSI Iomega Zip drive. The Zip drive >has a DB25 connector on the back but it is a SCSI interface. The drive is >at work and I am at home so I may be in error. No... the zip drive uses a DB25 to DB25 cable. This cable (DB25->Blue Ribbon 50) is commonly used with Mac SCSI ports... but also found on many other SCSI 1 connectors. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 6 months

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This is funny (ebay)

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Frankly, I don't find it funny, but I do find it a good buy. $3 (buy-it-now) >for a DB25<=>SCSI adapter cable is a pretty good buy if you need one. Without knowing the quality of the cable... it actually is NOT a very good buy. Yes, the price for the cable is great, but you also need to factor in $6 shipping. That makes it $9 total... I can buy cheap ones of these NEW at my local CompUSA for $12... so $3 more gets you a brand new one guarenteed to work (or at least can be returned when it doesn't). Of course, that is for a cheap one... which tend to not be reliable in their own right. If you are looking for a good quality one, prices start at $25 and up (and if the ebay'd one is good quality, then it would be a great price... but there is no clue who makes it, or how beat up it is) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Recent transputer additions

by RMeenaks＠olf.com

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24 years, 6 months

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PDP11 Redux, or Behind-The-Scenes Bull

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Y'all, I posted a couple of days ago with questions concerning the value of, and locating info for, a PDP11/93, for which I'm negotiating . I got some good responses on-list, and a couple of very helpful suggestions off-list. And today, one enterprising soul, a long-standing list subscriber, found MDR's website from my email address. He both emailed and called my boss today trying to buy the machine out from under me. His statement to Mark, that he thought I was trying to cheat my company of fair value, would have rung a lot less false had he (A) Done me the courtesy of trying to clarify the situation with me first, (B) Not also expressed what Mark called "near-rabid" interest in owning the machine himself, and (C) Not asked Mark specifically to refrain from telling me about it. Fortunately for me, Mark Rodriguez was my friend long before he became my boss. For the record, my employer knows that some of what I pull out of the pile is for my collection, and some gets sold. He rather expects that I make a profit. As long as he gets more than the scrappers pay, he feels that he's ahead. As far as the idea that I should tell *any* prospective seller what I might charge for the item I'm buying, *if* I resell it, that's just ridiculous. Mark's impression, which I trust, was NOT that this person was trying to protect MDR from being cheated. Mark believes that it was an outright attempt to make sure that the caller got first crack at a PDP11/93. I think that truly sucks. If this is the way we are, I'll be unsubscribing damn soon. And yes, I know who it was. Doc

24 years, 6 months

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eBay - Completely Off

by dittman＠dittman.net

How's this for clueless eBay? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2004963299 -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/

24 years, 6 months

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IBM 7012 front

by red＠bears.org

Stupid question time. What's the secret trick to pulling off the front panel of an IBM RS/6000 type 7012 so that the devices in the front drive bays can be removed? ok r.

24 years, 6 months

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SPAM - RFC from list admin

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: William Donzelli [mailto:aw288@osfn.org] > I would like to see some reasonably strict moderation, so we > can cut out > all of the off topic stuff before it (always) gets out of > hand. Off topic, > meaning Microsoft/AOL bashing, PeeCees, cars (antique or otherwise), Not to be picky, but: AOLs early (still bad) software ran on _on topic machines_ Microsofts early (still bad) software ran on _on topic machines_ PeeCees (I assume in the IBM sense) older than 10 years, are, according to the FAQ, and no matter how much you or I may dislike them _on topic machines_ The spark computer in an older car is arguably an _on topic machine_ > politics, complaining about SPAM, Linux, guns, food, and at > least fifty Linux runs on _on topic machines_ > other topics that have made the rounds that have nothing to > do with old > computing. Well, anyway, my point is that you can't just unilaterally ban all of those topics; it would require some very careful reading on the moderator's part. It may not be feasible. Now since discussing list policies is probably off topic, (not to mention boring) I'll stop. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Still trying to netboot 6300

by setala＠elisa.fi

Ok, now got a little further using TERTIARY_VMB.EXE .. and to next problem. >>> B/R5:101/X:D/B:6 ET0 Initializing system. F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # A A . . M M M . . . . . . P TYP o o . . + + + . . . . . . + STF . . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ETF . . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD . . . . . . . . . + . . . . + . XBI D + . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + . XBI E + . . . . B1 A2 A1 . . . . . . . ILV . . . . 32 32 32 . . . . . . . 96 Mb ROM = 6.0 EEPROM = 2.0/6.0 SN = GA92000372 Loading system software. Filename: TERTIARY_VMB.EXE The filename for NICDrom MOP boot is: TERTIARY_VMB.EXE * Passing control to transfer address %VAXcluster, system loaded from node VAXVMS (AA-00-04-00-01-04) %VAXcluster, PE boot driver timer control value = 00002710 %VAXcluster, creating channel, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, opening virtual circuit, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, PE boot driver successfully initialized, disk server VAXVMS Bootfile:SYSBOOT.EXE SYSBOOT> CONTINUE %SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT Mapping the SYSDUMP.DMP on the System Disk%VAXcluster, checking for listen timeout %VAXcluster, checking for listen timeout %VAXcluster, listen timeout, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, no connection to disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, closing virtual circuit, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, attempting to reconnect to a disk server %VAXcluster, creating channel, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, opening virtual circuit, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, connected to disk server VAXVMS %SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT SYSDUMP.DMP on System Disk successfully mapped %SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT Mapping PAGEFILE.SYS on the System Disk %SYSBOOT-I-SYSBOOT SAVEDUMP parameter not set to protect the PAGEFILE.SYS%VAXcluste r, checking for listen timeout %VAXcluster, checking for listen timeout %VAXcluster, listen timeout, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, no connection to disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, closing virtual circuit, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, attempting to reconnect to a disk server %VAXcluster, creating channel, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, opening virtual circuit, disk server VAXVMS %VAXcluster, connected to disk server VAXVMS OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version V7.2 Major version id = 1 Minor version id = 0 %VAXcluster, PE boot driver timer control value = 00002710 %VAXcluster, PE boot driver initialization failed, maximum retry limit exceeded %EXECINIT, error initializing boot device - R0 = 00000054 ?06 Halt instruction executed PC = 85CBC5BF -- Saku Set?l? System Planning Manager Kolumbus Oy http://www.kolumbus.com/ Elisa Communications Group

24 years, 6 months

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I need an RM03...

by DSEAGRAV＠toad.xkl.com

I need an RM03, preferrably within sane driving distance of Peoria, IL. Having a KS10 as a paperweight is absolutely no fun. I can trade PDP-11 stuff for one, I have all sorts of 11 kit that I'd be more than willing to trade for KS10 stuff. Also, if anyone has the 120V-AC plug that goes in a TM02, I am short one of those as well - I have the 220 volt version (but the rest of the drive is all 120 volt parts; Odd!) Basically, I'm sick of using the KS10 as just emulation validation and I want to get it running. ^_^ -------

24 years, 6 months

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HP Scanjet interface

by jwbirdsa＠picarefy.com

>> To whomever(s) were looking for one of these, I scored out out of a junk >> bin today. It's an HP C2502-66500, an 8-bit card with an NCR 53C400A on it, >> a DB25F port, and a "HP ScanJet Scanner" label on the back panel. Condition >> unknown but physically it's in near-mint shape. > >From the number, it is for Scanjet IIP, IIC, etc. - the later true SCSI >series. Oops! There were several similar HP cards with other numbers and no labels in the bin, if somebody can provide me with the numbers of interest I can go back and see what I can find. --James B.

24 years, 6 months

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RS/6000 Diags

by vance＠ikickass.org

4.3.3 can still make diagnostic floppies, right? I need a set of AIX 4 dianostic floppies. I would be eternally grateful to whomever could help me. Peace... Sridhar

24 years, 6 months

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MIDI on an Atari ST

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Christopher Smith <csmith(a)amdocs.com> > Here's an odd one. Hypothetically, if I have a keyboard, with no > internal sampler (a hypothetical Ensoniq ZR-76, say... for which > I could probably never hope to find the sampler upgrade board ;), > and would like to use an Atari ST to do some sampling (and play > back of samples, too -- triggered by the keyboard), is there a > way to do it? You cannot transfer a sample to a non-sampling synth. All you can send it is MIDI and patch data. > I'm not familiar with Atari ST software, but I just happen to > have an ST520 setting around not doing much, and wonder whether > it could be used for this purpose. ISTR that STs had decent > MIDI capabilities for the time. MIDI and sampling are unrelated. > Otherwise, what sort of MIDI-ish stuff can be done with this > machine? > > It might make a good secondary sequencer, patch editor, etc, > anyway... Sure, as long as you can obtain or write a sequencer and patch editor. The patch editor has to fit both the Atari *and* the target synth. Glen 0/0

24 years, 6 months

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OT Quadraphonic audio media

by r.stek＠snet.net

I'm joining this thread a little late (only read the digest version every few days or so), so pardon me if you already have covered this. There were no quad turntables per se (except those hawked as such at the very low end). For CD-4 quad LP's (championed by RCA) you needed a cartridge with response up to 45,000 - 50,000 Hz, many coming with a special cut to the actual stylus (Stanton called theirs 'quadrahedrial' IIRC, and there was also the Shibata stylus). The quad channels were physically encoded on the record, and you needed the cartridge and a CD-4 demodulator, either as an add-on unit, or built into a receiver. I vaguely recall a TT or two with a demodulator built in, but they were rare. Marantz, Harmon-Kardon, Panasonic, and Pioneer all made demodulators. The demodulators come up frequently on eBay, and there's a guy on eBay who still sells new CD-4 cartridges. And TT's are still available - new ones can run from a few hundred for something decent to literally $10,000 and up (honest!) with the average high-end TT being between $800 and $1200. For once, eBay is reasonable and can get you something decent for between $100 and $200 (if you know your TT's). The two major matrixed (electrically encoded) systems were CBS-Sony SQ format and the Sansui QS format. The first decoders did only a little more than presenting a L-R 'ambiance' signal (the Dynaco Quadaptor did this without needing two additional amplifier channels), but partial front-back logic and then full-logic decoders were developed to provide greater separation. Electro-Voice also had their own matrix, but switched over to being compatible SQ when they saw which way the wind was blowing. The SQ matrix encoding is still the basis of the multi-channel home theater systems you buy today. A little web-searching will find you many quad sites. Bob Stek Saver of Lost Sols (and old quad equipment)

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Update on Save The Computer Garage effort

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> > Jim and I are now working on getting the back rent paid. Once that's > > under control, we'll then start figuring out the best option for getting > > the collection back to his barn in Kansas. > > Hmm Red Slippers??? Well it worked from OZ. > Better get more room out there, because on your way back you could > make a few stops, wheel and deal and get twice the collection. :) Hmmm.... If Jim has a barn out in Kansas now, it sounds to me like he needs to stop by my storage units when he's retrieving his stuff. I've got more stuff I could dump on him (of course the last time it was his one son taking most of the stuff). Zane

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HP Scanjet interface

by jwbirdsa＠picarefy.com

To whomever(s) were looking for one of these, I scored out out of a junk bin today. It's an HP C2502-66500, an 8-bit card with an NCR 53C400A on it, a DB25F port, and a "HP ScanJet Scanner" label on the back panel. Condition unknown but physically it's in near-mint shape. Anybody who wants it can have it for the buck I paid plus postage. --James B.

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RS/6000 Keyboard

by vance＠ikickass.org

I *really* need to borrow one from someone. And I need it right away. Can anyone help? Peace... Sridhar

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home-made Qbus card, and other stuff

by aek＠spies.com

> Everybody save whatever old > manuals you have for *any*thing electronic, eventually someone will > need them and you can then sell them at an inflated price! Your charma points will be higher if you scan them and put them someplace where others can get to them. Who knows, maybe someone will do the same for you.

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home-made Qbus card, and other stuff

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > Everybody save whatever old > > manuals you have for *any*thing electronic, eventually someone will > > need them and you can then sell them at an inflated price! > > Your charma points will be higher if you scan them and put them someplace > where others can get to them. Who knows, maybe someone will do the > same for you. Some live on the wheel, others get run over by it... ;)

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Collection available....

by LFessen106＠aol.com

> Do you happen to have a 128D in the collection? What is in the Commodore > collection? > > Thanks, > > Bryan Nope.. I believe there are 2 or 3 breadbox 64's, 3 flat 128's, a 16, a +4, a Vic20, Monitors, Printers, reu, 1581, piles of disk drives and disks, cables, etc...misc.. -Linc.

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Anybody need some IBM 4 MB SIMMs? FRU 70F9973

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I have two cards that have eight of these on each one. A quick search <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ibm+memory+FRU+70f9973&btnG=Google+Sea rch> shows that the SIMMs are used on the Artic 960 card and one some IBM RS 6000s. These are parity SIMMs and look like regular PC SIMMs except that the notch in the bottom corner is much shorter therefore these won't fit some/all(?) PCs. Trade for ??? Joe

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Collection available....

by LFessen106＠aol.com

Anyone interested in Apple II and Commodore computers and associated peripherals? ?I have a sizeable collection that needs a new home. ?Price or trade is negotiable.. ?I am looking to get a better machine to use as my main Linux box - somewhere around 500mhz would be great.. ?Other things I am looking for are Playstation games (especially anything using a lightgun), and a video camera with a composite output that I can tinker with. The collection is located in Easton Pennsylvania and my preference would be *not* to ship it (there is quite a bit). I would rather not break it up piece by piece either however splitting it up between Apple and Commodore is not out of the question. -Linc. In The Beginning there was nothing, which exploded - Yeah right... Calculating in binary code is as easy as 01,10,11.

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AEHR / Computest CPM computer?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I picked up a portable computer since it had a disk in it that said CPM. I can't get it to boot but it looks interesting so I thought I'd try to find ut more about it before I decide to fix or junk it. The computer is labeled "AEHR Test System ATS-312". It's about 1 foot tall x 1 foot wide x 26 inches deep. It has a keybord that folds down from the front and exposes two 5 1/4" disk drives and a built in CRT. Inside most of the cards are marked "Computest Inc Made in USA" but the motherboard is marked "Fox Motherboard II". A couple of the plug in cards init are marked "64 point switchboard II" and have 64 pin ribbon cable sockets on the back. Underneath it has what looks like the CPU card. On it has what I think is the CPU. It's hard to read but it looks like it says "SGS Z84008B-1". Is anyone familar with that chip? I can't find any record on it. Does anyone know anything about the computer itself? AEHR makes test equipment, mainly for IC wafer testing. I couldn't fin anything out about Fox or Computest. They're both common names but all the occurances that I cound find were for unrelated businesses. Joe

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Still trying to netboot 6300

by setala＠elisa.fi

Sridhar, anyway your comment about R5 got me experimenting and I found about the tertiary_vmb.exe. R5:0 does not work at all. >From LANACP logs I can see that 6300 downloads NISCS_LOAD.EXE, but after that it just freezes. 22-FEB-2002 13:12:02.04 Volunteered to load request on ESA0 from LARGE Requested file: DISK$OVMSVAXSYS:<SYS10.>[SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]NISCS_LOAD.EXE 22-FEB-2002 13:12:04.35 Load succeeded for LARGE on ESA0 MOP V3 format, Tertiary loader, DISK$OVMSVAXSYS:<SYS10.>[SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]NI SCS_LOAD.EXE Packets: 544 sent, 544 received Bytes: 136509 sent, 1632 received, 133241 loaded Elapsed time: 00:00:02.13, 62554 bytes/second But by setting R5:100 and using the TERTIARY_VMB.EXE it works better; and then TERTIARY_VMB loads NISCS_LOAD.EXE. 22-FEB-2002 17:36:27.60 Volunteered to load request on ESA0 from LARGE Requested file: LAN$DLL:TERTIARY_VMB.EXE 22-FEB-2002 17:36:28.82 Load succeeded for LARGE on ESA0 MOP V3 format, Tertiary loader, LAN$DLL:TERTIARY_VMB.EXE Packets: 318 sent, 318 received Bytes: 79736 sent, 954 received, 77824 loaded Elapsed time: 00:00:01.05, 74118 bytes/second 22-FEB-2002 17:36:38.36 Volunteered to load request on ESA0 from LARGE Requested file: DISK$OVMSVAXSYS:<SYS10.>[SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]NISCS_LOAD.EXE 22-FEB-2002 17:36:42.08 Load succeeded for LARGE on ESA0 MOP V3 format, System image, DISK$OVMSVAXSYS:<SYS10.>[SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB]NISCS _LOAD.EXE Packets: 544 sent, 544 received Bytes: 136541 sent, 1632 received, 133277 loaded Elapsed time: 00:00:03.55, 37543 bytes/second On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Julius Sridhar wrote: > I thought you were trying to boot from an InfoServer image. If you are, > then you have to set R5. If you are simply trying to clusterboot, then > R5:0 should work. Is the system disk set up properly on the cluster boot > server and is the boot server configured to serve disks? > > Peace... Sridhar > > -- Saku Set?l? System Planning Manager Kolumbus Oy http://www.kolumbus.com/ Elisa Communications Group

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Sun Creator 3D "stereo"

by root＠diablonet.net

Hi there! The "stereo" jack is not for audio at all -- rather, it is for a pair of LCD shutter goggles that work in conjunction with certain monitors to display a stereoscopic 3D image. This functionality is REALLY common on higher-end video boards (e.g. SGI, Intergraph, etc), and apparently was used primarily in computer aided chemistry visualization and things like that. I don't have a pair of requisite shutter glasses to try the concept, but it always seemed kind of chintzy to be used in a high-end setup. Sort of like a pre-HMD semi-immersive sort of display technology, although it's still around... Kind regards, Sean -- Sean Caron http://www.diablonet.net scaron(a)engin.umich.edu root(a)diablonet.net

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"Programmer's Panel" for disk drives

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Today I spotted what looked like programmer's panel. However upon inspection it turns out that it's a control/test panel for some kind of disk drive. I've seen several of these before so it must have been a MOL standard device despite it's decidedly homemade appearance (bright finished aluminium box about 15" cubed. A sticker inside said that it was made by Magnetic Peripherals. Is anyone familar with these? What type drives coud it operate? Is it worth picking up? This one appeared pretty intact, some key tops were missing but it had the cables still stored inside of it. Joe

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DEC Professional /380 color option

by emu＠ecubics.com

Hi, anybody here knows, if I can use the color option of a /350 in a /380 PRO ? If not, what is the right one to use there ? cheers & thanks P.S. Talking about the CTI boards 001002 & 001403

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OT Quadraphonic audio media

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > In order to really use it, you have to be playing a Quadraphonic > > recorded record right? LP's were it back then, right? > > Wrong. Some quad reel-to-reel tapes were produced. LPs were *mostly* it > -- Dark Side of the Moon was probably the biggest selling quad LP. The > opening "cash register" sounds on "Money" produced an excellent effect. Woa! Best selling? The copy I have is the only other one I've ever been aware of! Now I know of two.... > There were at least two different quad formats. IIRC, one required > decoding in the hardware (my Fisher has an "SQ decoder" switch). > > I'll bet it's next to impossible to find a working quad turntable these > days. I could convert some stereo recordings to "simulated" quad for > playback on a four-track cassette, but it would be more fun to find a > 'table and some original quad records. The British import copy of Electric Ladyland says it's stereo, but it is in fact SQ-encoded; listen to Jimi's guitar swirl around all four speakers on "And the Gods made Love". -dq

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OT Vinyl to MP3

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> > I'm about to experiment with hooking a 20 year old Technics > turntable up to my B/W G3 using a small pre-amp between them. It'll > allow me to convert all my old vinyl to MP3 Not to suggest that your uninformed, but you *do* know that MP3 is lossy compression? I know some people like MP3 due to the small size of the files, but they sound like dirt to me. Why not just convert 'em to CD-ROMs??? Glen 0/0

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OT Quadraphonic audio media

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> There were three competing systems: QS (Sansui), SQ (Sony) and CD-4 > (JVC). Only the CD-4, which used a supersonic subcarrier a la FM > broadcasting, required a special stylus on the cartridge (Shibata). I bought and assembled the Southwest Technical Products CD-4 decoder, but could never get it operational (SWTP == on-topic). If anyone on the list knows of anyone with experience with this decoder, I'd appreciate a pointer in their direction...

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Bering HP-IB disk drive?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > Is anyone familar with the Bering HP-IB disk drives? I found one that > looks like it uses the 8" Bernoulli cartridges. I'm not really familiar with them, but this is the sort of business that Bering has been in for a while: plug-compatible replacements for HP-IB disc and tape drives. More recently they have used Zip and Jaz and magneto-optical drives. I wouldn't be surprised to find that this plays like a 790[567]. They have a web site at http://www.bering.com/ but it doesn't go much into their older products. You might be able to send them e-mail about it though. -Frank McConnell

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OT Quadraphonic audio media

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> > I don't do any recording, although, I do have some very old records that > I've thought about copying to CD. I don't have a turn table that would > be handy, However :-( Showing My Age Dept: Turntables seem to be more available now. I went out to purchase one around '94 or so and at the first three stereo shops I visited, the young person behind the counter said "You mean a record player?? Why do you want one of those?" Sheesh. > What's the Joystick for? Spacial control -- left, right, front and rear. This replaces the two-directional balance control found on stereo amps. > In order to really use it, you have to be playing a Quadraphonic > recorded record right? LP's were it back then, right? Wrong. Some quad reel-to-reel tapes were produced. LPs were *mostly* it -- Dark Side of the Moon was probably the biggest selling quad LP. The opening "cash register" sounds on "Money" produced an excellent effect. There were at least two different quad formats. IIRC, one required decoding in the hardware (my Fisher has an "SQ decoder" switch). I'll bet it's next to impossible to find a working quad turntable these days. I could convert some stereo recordings to "simulated" quad for playback on a four-track cassette, but it would be more fun to find a 'table and some original quad records. Glen 0/0

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Trying to netboot a VAX 6000-300 (6300)

by setala＠setala.net

On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Eric Dittman wrote: > Okay, the ISL is loaded. What did you get when you tried > to select the VAXVMS_072 service (I think that's the name)? Well, actually there is no infoserver running. Just found the file name >from OpenVMS installation documents and also from OpenVMS 7.2 disk, copied it to [MOM$SYSTEM] and surprised it worked at all. Anyway that proves to me that the network is not totally broken. Regards, --Saku

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Magnetic media and mold cleanup

by tothwolf＠concentric.net

Well, I'm sure most everyone has heard about the awful flood we had down here in Houston last year. Quite abit of stuff I had stored away was damaged, but not totally ruined. Today I found several boxes of 10MB Bernoulli cartridges I had stored away, which were covered with a gray powder-like mold. It seems to be easy to clean off the plastic housing, but I found it has also started to grow on the magnetic media itself. Does anyone know of a way to remove the mold that won't damage the magnetic media? Also, does anyone remember the trick to opening the shutter on these 8" cartridges? -Toth

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Questions about a PDP11/93

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 23:56:51 -0500 > From: Chad Fernandez <fernande(a)internet1.net> > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Questions about a PDP11/93 > > Doc Shipley wrote: > > So the questions: > > Can anybody point me to pictures of an 11/93 that's NOT in a BA23? > > The BA23 is rackmountable. Maybe it is a rack with two PDP11/93's in > it. > > > What's it worth, obsession aside? It's probably going to cost me about > > $0.50/lb, USD. That's delivered to my garage. I'm guessing that's in > > the $200 realm. > > I think, the 11/93 is a 20mhz J11 CPU. I've seen the 18mhz J11 cpu go > for well over $100 on Ebay, so I'd think the 11/93's cpu would be worth > quite a bit. Plus, I don't usually hear of the 11/93 on this list, so > that may mean that they are one of the more rare PDP11's. Comments > anyone? Maybe it is a dual-box BA23 system. You can tell by looking at the back of the box(es) where the dual-box system has one (6U) back cover spanning the two boxes. Does the rack have extra-thick side panels with cooling fans in them? That would be the "elephant ears" add-on which was typical for such a system. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

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%20NCR%20Safari%203115

by Blixxx6355＠aol.com

do you have an adaptor for it. would you be willing ot sell it..blixxx6355(a)aol.com

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Honeywell 316 Question

by univac2＠earthlink.net

I picked up a Honeywell 316 from a local scrap yard today. I gave the inside a good looking over, and it looks perfect. It's also so clean, that I don't really think I could help it by cleaning the boards. So I guess I'm ready to power it up, which leads me to my question: Lacking a power cord, how do I plug it in? The power supply has no cord coming out of it. What is does have is a standard 3-prong plug sticking out of the back, just like the kind that plugs into the wall. So, can I just run an extension cord from it to the wall, or is there something more to it than that? Owen

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STAPLES STORES WILL TAKE OLD COMPUTERS

by mythtech＠Mac.com

>Did you use the right felt washers sold for VCR repair, or try to use the >stuff from a craft shop? The latter is not going to work properly. Yeah... I specifically bought VCR clutch felts. When those didn't work, I considered buying craft store felt, but never saw anything remotely close to the right thing (craft store felt is too soft and flexible) >And let me guess, service manuals are unobtainable? Bingo... if I was an authorized repair shop, I could buy a manual... but then, if I was an authorized repair shop, they would look up the part number for me, and sell it to me. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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NEC Multisync Color Monitor - $25

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Vintage Computer Festival [mailto:vcf@vintage.org] > I have here an excess NEC MultiSync Color monitor (model > JC-1401P3A) that > is very useful for the vintage microcomputer enthusiast. It I have one of these myself. It works well, though I have trouble getting it to connect to the monitor port of my Amiga 1000. Haven't tried that in a while. Come to think about it, I ought to see if it will attach to the Atari ST. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Computer Garage Fund Raiser Status

by vcf＠vintage.org

The initial response to the Computer Garage fundraiser has been phenomenal. So far, we've gotten pledges worth $821. We need just $179 and we're at the $1000 goal. The generosity of the pledges received so far is wonderful. People from all over the world have pledged. It's great to see such a strong community spirit. I'm hoping that by the end of today we'll have the $1000 raised, and then we can move on to phase two, which is to get the money into the right places to secure the Computer Garage collection, and then onto phase three which is to move it to Kansas. Thanks very much to all who have pledged to contribute. There is still time to contribute. If you want to use PayPal to contribute, you can send it to <vcf(a)vintage.org>. You can also send a check to: Vintage Computer Festival STCG Fund 1141 Catalina Drive #283 Livermore, California 94550 Please make the check payable to: Vintage Computer Festival. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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HP Cxxx drive rails, & moulding plastic

by timwa＠snowgoons.fsnet.co.uk

Tothwolf wrote: > On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Tim wrote: >> I've got an HP C180 and want to fit some more drives, but I'm short of >> the plastic rails you use to fit them. > > What do these look like? I've got piles of rails I'll likely never use, > but I wouldn't know HP rails from another type... As promised, I took a couple of snaps last night with the IndyCam (the only thing that keeps this almost on topic :-). Apologies for the poor quality, but you can't do a lot better with those things <g>: http://213.152.32.6/hp/driverail1.jpg http://213.152.32.6/hp/driverail2.jpg If you do have any to spare which you could sell me, I would of course be eternally grateful... Otherwise, it's off to the railway modelling shop to follow the excellent suggestion of a resin moulding kit! Cheers, Tim. -- Tim Walls at home in Croydon - Reply to tim(a)snowgoons.fsnet.co.uk

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Trying to netboot a VAX 6000-300 (6300)

by setala＠elisa.fi

Hi all, I have been trying to netboot a Vax 6300 for a while now. Only succeeded loading netbsd kernel via netbsd mopd, not too much help since netbsd does not support Vax 6000 yet. Another thing what works is "infoserver mopboot". Ultrix 4.5 diskless boot does not work, OpenVMS 7.2 vaxcluster diskless satellite boot does not work. My Microvax 3100 and 3400 work fine on both cases. I've pulled out all extra processors and interfaces, only ethernet left. --clip--(So here's the Infoserver mopboot image which loads from OpenVMS 7.2 vaxcluster) >>> B/R5:100/X:D/B:6 ET0 Initializing system. F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # A A . . M M M . . . . . . P TYP o o . . + + + . . . . . . + STF . . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD . . . . . . . . . . . . . + ETF . . . . . . . . . . . . . B BPD . . . . . . . . . + . . . . + . XBI D + . . . . . . . . . . . . . . + . XBI E + . . . . B1 A2 A1 . . . . . . . ILV . . . . 32 32 32 . . . . . . . 96 Mb ROM = 6.0 EEPROM = 2.0/6.0 SN = GA92000372 Loading system software. Filename: ISL_LVAX_072.SYS The filename for NICDrom MOP boot is: ISL_LVAX_072.SYS * Passing control to transfer address Network Initial System Load Function Version 1.2 FUNCTION FUNCTION ID 1 - Display Menu 2 - Help 3 - Choose Service 4 - Select Options 5 - Stop Enter a function ID value: --clip-- (earlier try with VMS, the same problem happens with Ultrix 4.5) >>> SHOW BOOT DEFAULT /XMI:E /BI:6 MUA6 KOE /XMI:D /BI:6 ET0 >>> BOOT KOE Initializing system. F E D C B A 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 NODE # A A . . M M M . . . . P P P TYP o o . . + + + . . . . + + + STF . . . . . . . . . . . E E B BPD . . . . . . . . . . . + + + ETF . . . . . . . . . . . E E B BPD . . . . . . . . . + . . . . + . XBI D + . . . . . . . . . + . + . . + . XBI E + . . . . B1 A2 A1 . . . . . . . ILV . . . . 32 32 32 . . . . . . . 96 Mb ROM = 6.0 EEPROM = 2.0/6.0 SN = GA92000372 ?2D For Secondary Processor 2 ?59 System serial number mismatch. Secondary processor has GA82000002 ?2D For Secondary Processor 3 ?59 System serial number mismatch. Secondary processor has GA82000002 Loading system software. * Passing control to transfer address Any suggestions? Thanks. --Saku Setala saku.setala(a)kolumbus.fi

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Not As OT As Driving Rants....

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

But still a couple of years "green". I found a copy of Yggdrasil Plug-n-Play Linux today, the User's Manual, CD & boot floppy. It's the Summer '94 edition; Linux v1.1. I've been looking through the HCL (so I can install it, of course!) and IDE/ATAPI CD-ROMs aren't even mentioned. Neither are any of the graphics adapters I own. Although I think the ET6000 will pretend to be an ET4k. But this bloat-hog demands 4M RAM and at least 3M diskspace, recommended 300M. This might get hairy... Doc

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Bering HP-IB disk drive?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Is anyone familar with the Bering HP-IB disk drives? I found one that looks like it uses the 8" Bernoulli cartridges. Joe

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