- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by Innfogra＠aol.com

IIRC the Floppy on an Altos 580 is DSQD. I had one that had the CMI hard drive replaced with a Seagate ST225. So I know they will take similar configured Hard Drives. I think they will take 10, 15 and 20 Meg HDs. Paxton Astoria, Oregon

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ZWL-183-92

by oeth_family＠prodigy.net

am looking for any info on the above model laptop. If you have any info, please send to P.B.man(a)juno.com . thanks

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DSQD Drives (Was: RE: Diags/Boot image for Altos 580)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

The best way to write QD media is to use a TEACFD55GFV or FD55F as both work. Then the actual media is the BROWN or 360k stuff that has been bulk erased. The resulting disks will be reliable aswsuming the drive hasn't been munged or the formating incorrect. A PC FDC can drive these drives and will/can format them. You will need a utility program that does disk reading and formatting with CP/M formats. FYI: the TEAC drives are my favorite for any 80track format either single or double sided. I use them as substition for RX50s as well. Allison

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DSQD Drives (Was: RE: Diags/Boot image for Altos 580)

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 12:14 PM 3/17/02 -0500, you wrote: >> IIRC the Floppy on an Altos 580 is DSQD. > >Am I correct that while different from standard >DSDD, they are *not* GCR drives? > >What other machines might carry these drives, The SB-180s used them. A lot of the later CPM and early MS-DOS (but not necessarily IBM compatible) machines used them. For example, they were popular additons to the Sanyo 55xs. I just found a pair of Teac 80 track drives inside of an old Multibus system (The same one that had the GAPP cards in it). can I >hook one up to a standard PC controller in a box >running DOS, and then duplicate the disks? Yes, MS-DOS can handle them. There's a DOS device driver that I can't think of the name of but it will let you specify the number of sides, tracks and sectors. It will handle them nicely. > >> I had one that had the CMI hard drive replaced with a Seagate ST225. So I >> know they will take similar configured Hard Drives. I think they will take >> 10, 15 and 20 Meg HDs. > >This is good to know, ST225s still pop up from time to time... 225s and 251s are handy to keep around since they'll replace a number of OLD hard drives. I've used 225s to replace the dries inside of some of the HP HP-IB disk drives. Joe > >-dq >

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IBM System/36 SSP on 5.25"

by ceby2＠csc.com

... back again with my periodic thread on System/36 IBM mini-computers... When I last left you... we were all bitching about SPAM. This week... we're bitching about SPAM?! The 5362 is in good health, and I've started to fool around with actually using it. As soon as I can find the LAN interface for it I'll integrate into the rest of my motteley managerie on line (the better to play with over VPN while travelling). To get to this point I hacked the security file, deliberately corrupted the VTOC and re-installed the SSP. I found scanning the disk sector by sector for appropriate files an... experience. Worked though. The 5360 was successfully moved from a printers workshop into it's temporary storage unit. My back is recovering. The U-Haul van started mysteriously burning oil. Co-incidence? You be the judge. Can't say as I've powered her up -- or even done a proper inventory of part numbers. I'm sure that's all something to look forward to, or at least it will be next time I can spare the day to drive down to Hartford. The 5363 arrived while I was away on client site. I get power and error messages on it right now. Still investigating.... Steve Robertson gets gold stars for his assist along the way. I've acquired his set of System/36 documentation. Slowly it makes it's way across my scanner. The prospect of buying a page feeder gets more appealing every page. Which leads me to the subject line of this e-mail: I have the SSP set on 8" disk, but that's not only a different format but a different version than what's supposed to be used on the late System/36 like a 5363. The 5363 continued to add version numbers to the SSP in a 5.25" version. The 8" stopped around V5. I'd like to bring the 5363 around, but I could use some additional tools to do it. Anyone out there holding onto a 5.25" SSP set? Warmest, SPAM-free regards, Colin Eby

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MV-II Diags & Customer Diags

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 00:28:11 -0600 (CST) > From: Doc Shipley <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> > To: Classic Computers <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: MV-II Diags & Customer Diags > Sender: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > I've aquired a copy of each: > > MVII DIAG MAINT TK50 AQ-GM5AN-DN > MV DIAG CUST TK50 AQ-GL5AP-DN > > I'm going to try using dd to generate an image for duplication > tonight. If I can make a bootable duplicate from the image, and if > there are no licensing issues, I'll make the images available. Any > interest or comments? Speaking as someone who did this many years ago (duplicated MV DIAG TK50) it is not a simple dd job. You have to copy the entire structure of the tape, which is something like <tape header> [<file header> <file contents> <file trailer>] <tape trailer> Repeat section between [ ] as many times as there are files on the tape. Each header and trailer block is (I think) 80 bytes, and there are FileMarks at the end of each and every header, trailer, and contents. carl

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Switching PSU Theory of Operation / Repair Tips

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Have I missed the start of this thread? I don't recall anything about > SMPSUs here in the last few days... No, believe it or not, SOMEONE BESIDE A SPAMMER HAS DISCOVERED THE LIST ARCHIVES! ;) -dq

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Dilog DQ-634?

by djenner＠earthlink.net

Anyone know what a Dilog DQ-634 does? I haven't found any information on the Net except for a couple of places that have them for sale. It obviously interfaces two MFM drives, due to the connectors on it. What DEC drives does it emulate? Is it a never version of the DQ-614, which emulates RL01/RL02s? Thanks, Dave -- David C. Jenner djenner(a)earthlink.net

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(fwd) Old Ohio Scientific 1970's Computers for sale

by donm＠cts.com

For those downunder or really hungry for OS hardware. Reply to the address below - not me. - don -- forwarded message -- Path: news20!news-feeds.jump.net!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!news1.optus.net.au!optus!spool01.syd.optusnet.com.au!spool.optusnet.com.au!210.49.20.93.MISMATCH!not-for-mail User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:38:35 +1100 Subject: Old Ohio Scientific 1970's Computers for sale From: Nobody <return-path(a)slyfox.org> Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.other.misc,misc.forsale.computers.other.systems Message-ID: <B8BAA13B.B1DE%return-path(a)slyfox.org> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Lines: 8 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.142.41.195 X-Trace: 1016354317 6219 198.142.41.195 Xref: news20 misc.forsale.computers.other.misc:122159 misc.forsale.computers.other.systems:61836 see them at http://www.tigersnake.com/computers/index.html offers accepted, all items located in melbourne australia however will ship worldwide and will accept payment via paypal. -- end of forwarded message --

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Switching PSU Theory of Operation / Repair Tips

by reversebias＠talk21.com

Re Where does the 600v come from? The SMPSU in question is probably of the 'Flyback' or of the 'Forward Converter' type. In either case the converter O/P Tx primary winding is connected between the +300vdc rail and the collector of the switching transistor. The emitter of the switching transistor is connected by a small resistor to the 0v (-tve) rail. During the conducting period of the switching transistor (lets call it TR4 - it often is) the potential across TR4 is very low, a few volts. Hence virtually all of the 300vdc appears across the primary winding of the O/P converter Tx (lets call it Tx1). The collector of TR4 is therefore at -300vdc. When TR4 is driven into its 'off' period Lenz's Law causes the primary inductance of Tx1 to try to maintain the primary current. The resultant induced emf (due to collapse of primary flux) now produces a +tve potential at the Tr4 collector and a -tve potential at the +dc rail end of Tx1 primary. Hence the Tr4 collector is now 300vdc positive to the +300vdc rail. Therefore the collector of Tr4 is now 600v +tve to the 0v (-tve) rail ofv the PSU. Don't touch its Heatsink while the PSU is switched on. Also allow 4 or 5 mins for the voltages to bleed down after switching the PSU off before touching internal components. (It should give this warning on its nameplate) Hope this is clear and useful - it is 3.30am in the morning here in UK. Regards John Salmon Q&R Engineer

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Response to Re: List Management - RESPONSE

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

>Jay, don't take this too personally, but that answer SUCKS! When will you >be "damn well ready"? The list asked for a solution several weeks ago. I >think it's time to finally do something. The SPAM is not the problem. The problem is the rant that continue long after the SPAM has gone. In this case, there was a single email SPAM followed by forty F***ING replys bitching about all the SPAM coming from the list. The SPAM is not the problem... The real problem is the members that refuse to shut the hell up! Take your whining somewhere else! SteveRob _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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DSQD Drives (Was: RE: Diags/Boot image for Altos 580)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Actually one system did use it with hard sectoring, Northstar. All of the others were WDC or 765 based. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Sunday, March 17, 2002 2:28 PM Subject: Re: DSQD Drives (Was: RE: Diags/Boot image for Altos 580) >The one I had used a standard sort of FDC, so it's not likely it was hard >sectored, nor is it likely it used some off-beat, e.g. GCR, modulation scheme. > >Dick > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "ajp166" <ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net> >To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 11:51 AM >Subject: Re: DSQD Drives (Was: RE: Diags/Boot image for Altos 580) > > >> From: Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com> >> >> >> >> IIRC the Floppy on an Altos 580 is DSQD. >> > >> >Am I correct that while different from standard >> >DSDD, they are *not* GCR drives? >> >> >> DSQD generally means 80 track two sided drives such as >> TEAC FD55F or G and double density encoding. Typically >> they store around 800k. >> >> FYI that can mean hard or softsectored as that is controller >> not drive dependent. >> >> >What other machines might carry these drives, can I >> >hook one up to a standard PC controller in a box >> >running DOS, and then duplicate the disks? >> >> >> Kaypro with Advent turborom, AmproLB, Micromint SB180 >> to name a few. >> >> >This is good to know, ST225s still pop up from time to time... >> >> >> St225, ST251 and related drives are fairly common. >> >> Allison >> >> >

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DSQD Drives (Was: RE: Diags/Boot image for Altos 580)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I just took a look at the docs for the Series 5 Altos computers and > there is a repair ticket for a Mitsubishi M4853 Disk Drive. The floppy > disk summary docs indicate that drive is a 5.25, HH, 720K, 96 > TPI drive. Ok, not GCR, but I suppose similiar to drives used in the Sanyo MB550 (or whatever that silver incompatible was called). > The CP/M version with my Altos 580 is 2.2 Licensed from Digital Research > by Lambda Software (4 disks.) Each of the six disks I have are labeled > double sided, double density, soft sectored. Of the two other disks, one > is for the 580-20 and is labeled MPM/CPM for Altos 580-20, the other > Altos Diags for model 580-x. > > Hope this helps! Can you make copies for Doc? Regards, -doug q > > Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > > > IIRC the Floppy on an Altos 580 is DSQD. > > > > Am I correct that while different from standard > > DSDD, they are *not* GCR drives? > > > > What other machines might carry these drives, can I > > hook one up to a standard PC controller in a box > > running DOS, and then duplicate the disks? > > > > > I had one that had the CMI hard drive replaced with a > Seagate ST225. So I > > > know they will take similar configured Hard Drives. I > think they will take > > > 10, 15 and 20 Meg HDs. > > > > This is good to know, ST225s still pop up from time to time... > > > > -dq >

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DSQD Drives (Was: RE: Diags/Boot image for Altos 580)

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/17/02 9:22:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com writes: > Am I correct that while different from standard > DSDD, they are *not* GCR drives? I don't think they are GCR but someone more knowledgeable than I will have to answer that. My understanding is that they are the same as a 360 drive with a head that is half the width so they can deal with 80 tracks instead of 40. > > What other machines might carry these drives, can I > hook one up to a standard PC controller in a box > running DOS, and then duplicate the disks? > > The answer to this is yes. For many years I kept an IBM PC (8088) clone with DSDD, DSQD drives and my EPROM programmer. IIRC I used the 3 1/2 inch 720K disk driver for the DSQD and it worked for my purposes of making disks for various systems. I used Media Master (sorry Fred) and PCDOS 3.3. Many systems of the MPM era used DSQDs, some single user computers like the Kaypro 4, too. The Intel 310s used DSQDs also. This is where most of mine came from. I still have a few 310s and DSQDs. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Z80 BigBoard ID Needed

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > > If California Digital is still in business, I believe the > > > boxed CP/M they were (are?) selling is for the Xerox 820... > > > > That is certainly possible, Doug. However, the one that they were > > selling a while back (for $9.95, IIRC) was for the Xerox 1800 terminal > > less "laptop". Whether it is directly compatible with the 810, I do not > > know. > > This purchase was circa 1985... > > But that's the right price... I'll just have to look at > the disks when I get home again... <sigh> You're right, Xerox 1800... :( -dq

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ZX-TEAM meeting and Webcam

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> > Hey! There are youngsters and virgins reading this list! No way! Glen 0/0

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Diags/Boot image for Altos 580

by drdidlittl＠yahoo.com

Bleh. MDR's mailserver is down, and I can't get in to fix it till Monday. Well, the Altos 580 ended up costing me $5 and "a future favor". Tyler couldn't find any of the floppy disks for it. It looks fine inside, except that the case fan was unplugged from the PSU. After finding the power header & plugging it in, I understand that. It does speak VT100, on RS232 port "JC" (Thanks, Andreas!) and boots to "Boot Monitor v7.03". Passes system tests, and attempts to boot from the hard drive. The activity light on the floppy drive comes on and stays on. I don't think the hard drive, a CMI CM-5619, is powering up at all. If it is it's incredibly quiet.... Anyway, I don't have any way to test the system. I did find an archive of MP/M II for it, but the zip file isn't in any image format. Does anyone have the install disks, and the Diagnostics/utilities disk, or disk images? And a way to create the disks on a Linux box? They are DD/DS floppies, right? Does this thing care what MFM disk it has? More junkyard fun.... Doc __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/

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DSQD Drives (Was: RE: Diags/Boot image for Altos 580)

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com> >> IIRC the Floppy on an Altos 580 is DSQD. > >Am I correct that while different from standard >DSDD, they are *not* GCR drives? DSQD generally means 80 track two sided drives such as TEAC FD55F or G and double density encoding. Typically they store around 800k. FYI that can mean hard or softsectored as that is controller not drive dependent. >What other machines might carry these drives, can I >hook one up to a standard PC controller in a box >running DOS, and then duplicate the disks? Kaypro with Advent turborom, AmproLB, Micromint SB180 to name a few. >This is good to know, ST225s still pop up from time to time... St225, ST251 and related drives are fairly common. Allison

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DSQD Drives (Was: RE: Diags/Boot image for Altos 580)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >This is good to know, ST225s still pop up from time to time... > > St225, ST251 and related drives are fairly common. Love the ST251. Any drive that still works after opening it up and blowing dust out of it with human breath is a wonder of engineering... -dq

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HP 2100/21MX emulator

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

My work on the emulator for the HP2100 and 21MX computer systems (and all applicable peripherals and interface cards) is reaching a point soon where I would like to solicit someone to help me with compilation testing on various unix platforms. I am doing the development and testing on FreeBSD, so of course I know it will work there. I am hoping that some list members can provide me with remote access to different unix platforms so I can make sure that it will compile correctly. I would like to make sure it will work on Sun, Linux, and HP-UX as well. I have access to quite a few HP-UX machines, but not Linux or Sun. Being a staunch FreeBSD bigot, I have no desire to install Linux myself. The emulator depends heavily on the implementation of fork(), execl(), and SYSV IPC mechanisms such as message queues. I have heard that there are some differences in the implementation of fork() on Linux for example. At the outset I wanted very badly to allow it to work on DOS/Windows platforms, but later in the design phase it became apparent for a variety of reasons that this simply isn't feasible, unless someone knows of a way to use SYSV IPC stuff there. If anyone can allow me remote access to these type of machines, please contact me offlist. Regards, Jay West

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VAX 6400 booting saga: SUCCESS!

by kees.stravers＠iae.nl

On 2002-03-17 classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org said to kees.stravers(a)iae.nl >> Get a VAXstation 2000, also called RD MFM disk >> formater. The VS2k has a MFM disk formater in ROM. >Will that work with any MFM drive geometry or only the >four RDxx types that mVAXes like? It will work with many drives. For the details see http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/vax/vs2khw.html Kees. -- kees.stravers(a)iae.nl My site about the DEC VAX computer Geldrop, The Netherlands http://www.vaxarchive.org http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/ is now back up, soon to be fully Member of Insomniacs Anonymous restored! Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Registered

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HP 715 and IBM 6091 monitor

by thomas＠tstrathmann.de

Hello, I have recently got an IBM 6091-19 monitor and figured I could use it with my HP 715/80 workstation but it doesn't work. Setting different video modes in the HP's boot monitor does not do very much either. The best I get is a partly readable but vertically diverted (sorry, I don't know how to describe this properly) picture. Looks like it cannot sync. Do you have any suggestions? Thomas PS: I also tried the switch on the monitor to no effect. -- Thomas S. Strathmann http://pdp7.org If God had intended Man to Smoke, He would have set him on Fire.

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Switching PSU Theory of Operation / Repair Tips

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Is this a follow-up to my thread about my dead Prime's PSU? if so, thanks, but that was a long time ago, I bought a replacement PSU rather than fix the old one. Damn thing still doesn't work but will maybe soon, we're debugging through it... -dq -----Original Message----- From: John Salmon [mailto:reversebias@talk21.com] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 6:38 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Switching PSU Theory of Operation / Repair Tips Re Where does the 600v come from? The SMPSU in question is probably of the 'Flyback' or of the 'Forward Converter' type. In either case the converter O/P Tx primary winding is connected between the +300vdc rail and the collector of the switching transistor. The emitter of the switching transistor is connected by a small resistor to the 0v (-tve) rail. During the conducting period of the switching transistor (lets call it TR4 - it often is) the potential across TR4 is very low, a few volts. Hence virtually all of the 300vdc appears across the primary winding of the O/P converter Tx (lets call it Tx1). The collector of TR4 is therefore at -300vdc. When TR4 is driven into its 'off' period Lenz's Law causes the primary inductance of Tx1 to try to maintain the primary current. The resultant induced emf (due to collapse of primary flux) now produces a +tve potential at the Tr4 collector and a -tve potential at the +dc rail end of Tx1 primary. Hence the Tr4 collector is now 300vdc positive to the +300vdc rail. Therefore the collector of Tr4 is now 600v +tve to the 0v (-tve) rail ofv the PSU. Don't touch its Heatsink while the PSU is switched on. Also allow 4 or 5 mins for the voltages to bleed down after switching the PSU off before touching internal components. (It should give this warning on its nameplate) Hope this is clear and useful - it is 3.30am in the morning here in UK. Regards John Salmon Q&R Engineer

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ZX-TEAM meeting and Webcam

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Stan Barr <stanb(a)dial.pipex.com> > Great stuff! It inspired me to dig my old thing out and plug it in. My wife asked me to do that just this evening ;>) > It powers up OK, but the display won't sync on my colour tv (a known > problem with zx81s...) so I guess I'll have to add a monitor output. A trivial task. > The old Forth system in mine (Skywave Forth) did multiple (tiled, text) > windows back in '83 when most home users had never seen a computer do > more than one thing at a time ;-) I used to use it as a data logger, > until it was replaced by an old XT... But it could still do the job, right? The ZX-Web-Cam and chat were a blast. It was up for a total of six hours, but they were the "after"-hours where the discussion was more on beer than computers. I did hear that a TCP/IP stack is near completion, and Kai Fischer brought a prototype ZX2000, but I don't have details on either one yet. Should be up on the ZX-TEAM homepage soon. Glen 0/0

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list problem fixed

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

The problem with the mail servers has been found and fixed. Turns out it wasn't due to the changes I had made. One of the open relay databases that we use for checking smtp servers that we will converse with is currently out of service it seems (mail-abuse.org). As a result, all the "dns"-style lookups our mail server would do to them to check for open relays would timeout. I removed the check for that service temporarily until it's disposition is known. Fear not - we have other services we check for open relay as well and they are still in effect. If there are any further problems with the list, please email me directly. And now, finally, perhaps sleeeeep Regards, Jay West

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list problems

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

What timing *sigh* I just noticed this morning that there is a rather severe problem with both our primary and secondary mail servers for the classiccmp.org domain. I must admit with much chagrin that it appears to be one of a set of changes that I made a week or two ago, but only manifested itself this morning. I am not sure of exactly which change caused the problem, but I have been working on it all day and will continue to do so till the problem is fixed. Symptoms - inbound connections from remote mail servers experience a long delay after the connection is made before sendmail acknowledges the connection. Most of the time the mail goes through, but the long pause bothers me. Other times the remote mail server times out, and retries later, but gets through. As a result, it appears that mail is going through but is significantly delayed. The error message is the typical "timeout waiting for..... during client greeting". No, the problem is definitely not reverse DNS (ident) or low level network related - the typical causes for that problem. I will post to the list once the problem is resolved, unless I choose to finally get some sleep. Jay

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test2

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

last test I hope

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test

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

test, please ignore

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boards drilled and undrilled

by swtpc6800＠attbi.com

I have used ExpressPCB and the free layout software on two projects. The layout software is for Windows and does double sided boards only. This software emails the design to ExpressPCB so it is not general purpose. If a two layer board will meet your needs I recommend ExpressPCB. Their service is fast and the software is easy to use. http://www.expresspcb.com Two 10 by 10 boards with no solder mask are +ACQ-230 (+ACQ-70 setup, +ACQ-80 per board) with a 3 day delivery. Two 10 by 10 boards with silk screen and solder mask are +ACQ-370 (+ACQ-310 setup, +ACQ-27 per board) with a 10 day delivery Boards up to 5.25 by 4 with silk screen and solder mask are +ACQ-229 for 5 boards. The company also offers a full featured PCB board production service. Your boards are actually manufactured here. http://www.pcbexpress.com/ I have access to commercial grade design software (PADS PowerPCB) but it is very difficult to get up to speed on the full featured software if you are doing one design a year. If you mess up on producing your output files your boards are junk. It is difficult to make operator errors in the ExpressPCB software. (You can still route the trace to the wrong pin.) You can see my projects here: http://home.attbi.com/+AH4-swtpc6800/ Michael Holley www.swtpc.com ----- Original Message ----- From: +ACI-John Allain+ACI- +ADw-allain+AEA-panix.com+AD4- To: +ADw-classiccmp+AEA-classiccmp.org+AD4- Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 8:06 AM Subject: RFQ: boards drilled and undrilled +AD4- Request for quotation: +AD4- +AD4- If I wanted a, say, 10+ACI-x10+ACI- pcb made to order, +AD4- what would I expect to pay and what format +AD4- drawings would the maker take? +AD4- +AD4- John A. +AD4- +AD4-

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(Fwd) IBM 1401

by Hans.Franke＠mch20.sbs.de

Just in case someone on the list may help him: ------- Forwarded message follows ------- To: hans.franke(a)mch20.sbs.de Subject: IBM 1401 Date sent: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 17:45:00 -0800 From: Van Snyder <vsnyder(a)math.jpl.nasa.gov> Hans: I won't be able to travel to the Vintage Computer Festival Europa. Does your organization have a mailing list? I'm looking for IBM 1401 software, manuals, service drawings, information, .... If you have a mailing list, can you forward this message? I'm involved with a historical preservation project (that has nothing to do with my employer). I'm hoping to find Autocoder, Cobol, Fortran, RPG, Sort 6/7, IOCS, ..., manuals, user-developed applications, the engineering drawings that CE's used for field maintenance, or any other IBM 1401 memorabilia (including equipment!). Do you have any of this stuff, or know anybody who might? Thanks in advance, Van Snyder vsnyder(a)math.jpl.nasa.gov ------- End of forwarded message ------- -- VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

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Test Message

by jrice＠texoma.net

Soory for the test, but I haven't got anything from the list all day

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Diags/Boot image for Altos 580

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Does anyone have the install disks, and the Diagnostics/utilities > disk, or disk images? And a way to create the disks on a Linux box? > They are DD/DS floppies, right? My former employer ended up giving his to a local guy who fixes radios, PCs, controllers, hell anything (he and I did an embedded systems project once); I just got off the phone, he remebers the system, knows its "there somewhere", as I also recall seeing it there as well as the disks in a dark maroon Dysan disk box. He's a bit busy at the moment, but promised to start a search for the disks when he can. > Does this thing care what MFM disk it has? The CMI hard drive was a total POS. I've got one >from a Zenith Z-150 that works until these *huge* power resistors on the interface board heat up too hot, then it stops working. I'm not sure whether they're part of the drive motor circuitry or the head motor assembly, but ISTR suspecting the latter. The drive is available free, for cost of shipping... if you're even vaguely interested in a failing hard drive. However, you might be able to combine parts from them long enough to use one while you transition to a more reliable old drive (assuming of course Chris finds the software). -dq

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vcf@vintage.org - does not work...

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

Hmmm, cannot send mail to vcf(a)vintage.org, it gets rejected... ----->> 209.209.32.33 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 <vcf(a)vintage.org>... Relaying denied Giving up on 209.209.32.33. <<----- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/

23 years, 9 months

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What Computer is This and Who is This Guy?

by d_l_mcd＠hotmail.com

Here's a picture from 1966 of an IBM computer at the IBM computing center on Manhattan (New York City, New York USA). The text for the photo says that the computer is being used to make a payroll calculation. Visible are 4 big-fridge-sized reel-reel tape devices, the console with operator seated at it, and some other things in the background. What's the computer model? Does anybody know who this guy (operator) is/was? Just a neat photo. It's about a 150k jpg file at this url: http://www.sover.net/~danm/computer_room.jpg _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

23 years, 9 months

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boards drilled and undrilled

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 16, Ethan Dicks wrote: > I'd like to see what comes out of > ExpressPCB. I've considered using them, but I think most of my > stuff is too ambitious to fit their size guidelines (not because there > are too many parts, or too many holes, but a replacement board to > match a missing one is too large - 6"x9" for one recent project I > soldered by hand - an LED scoreboard). I've used ExpressPCB...just last week, as a matter of fact. Their boards are quite decent, and their service is fast and predictable. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Watch those lateral G's man, St. Petersburg, FL I've got sandwiches in my lap!" -Sridhar

23 years, 9 months

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List Management

by mranalog＠attbi.com

Sellam Ismail wrote: > Gee, am I that bad? Sorry I have an opinion. The trouble ALWAYS starts when someone posts an opinion to the list. An opinion is not a question, or an answer. It's not news or information. It's not a recollection and it's not history. It's not on topic. Opinions are unavoidable, but self control (and counting to 50,000) can really cut down on the noise. --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog Analogrechner, calculateur analogique, calcolatore analogico, analoogrekenaar, komputer analogowy, analog bilgisayar, kampiutere ghiyasi, analoge computer. =========================================

23 years, 9 months

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Clipper Collectors? (Intergraph Interpro)

by kris＠catonic.net

Anyone on here collecting Intergraph Interpro workstations? -- Kris Kirby, KE4AHR | TGIFreeBSD... 'Nuff said. <kris(a)nospam.catonic.net> | IM: KrisBSD | HSV, AL. ------------------------------------------------------- "Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony."

23 years, 9 months

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VT-320 Hack+Tip for Smokers

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

>> LK201: >> > I found a few of the keys didn't work right on >> > one of them. This is one of those conductive rubber >> > dome keyboards (and cheap and junky ones at that). > >All the LK201s I've worked on have used membrane switches. But I believe >there are several versions. Actually not less than 4 different versions as LK201 and then you had the 301, 401 and later versions based on it. >Since the LK201 protocol is fairly easily available, I would have thought >it would be possible to use a single-chip microcontroller to link a PC >keyboard to a LK201 port. I've never tried to write the code, though. This is doable. Though most of the LK201s had 8051 chips and you could program a 8751 and put that in if you like. Allison

23 years, 9 months

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I have a PDP-11/34 programmer's console, what should I do with it?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, I have a PDP-11/34 programmer's console but no PDP-11/34, what should I do with it? My options are: 1) get a PDP-11/34 2) trade it with something I need more, like a PDP-8/A power regulator(G8018) and limited function panel so that I can build my third PDP-8/A :-) PDP-11s were never really my plan to collect, but I wouldn't mind having one specimen of 2.9 BSD running. So, may be I should get an 11/34? cheers, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

23 years, 9 months

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eBay Purchase

by jhfine＠idirect.com

Help - What am I doing wrong? I sent the following response (SEE AFTER DOUBLE LINES of ======) to a previous e-mail in respect of auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2006598832 This time he did not even reply. Am I being overly cautious is making sure that the correct customs documents are used? Previously, we have agreed on the Shipping, Handling and insurance to be $ 24.45 and that he would ship to Canada, but for some reason which I can't understand, he seems to think that using the GREEN CN-22 or a COMMERCIAL INVOICE is not a reasonable requirement. While the shipping seems a bit high, I did not quibble and agreed to pay what was asked. His Positive feedback seems satisfactory, so what could the problem be? His name and address are: Bobert1959(a)aol.com Bob Bruns 6334 Alta Oaks Dr Garland, TX 75043 However, this information seems to not be traceable. Is there anyone at eBay whom I can contact? Any other suggestions? Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine MY RESPONSE TO HIS E-MAIL FOLLOWS: Bob Burns does not reply. ================================================ ================================================ >Bobert1959(a)aol.com wrote: > the terms of the auction are decided prior to the end. No other terms will be > accpeted. The shipping amount has agreed on. If for some reason the auction > terms are unacceptable. I will sell the item to the next highest bidder. Jerome Fine replies: If everything in this e-mail is satisfactory, please respond with "Confirmed" as the first word in the body of your reply. Also, please add if you wish me to prepare the COMMERCIAL INVOICE for you. Your reply seems to suggest that by requesting that you comply with shipping requirements at port of entry into Canada (and probably any country - although I am not familiar with regulations elsewhere), I am changing the terms of the auction. I hope that this reply will help you to understand that the terms of the auction are not part of the requirements for shipping the drive and that I have nothing to do with these requirements. In addition, if you read my last e-mail carefully, all that you have been asked to do is to correctly provide the value of the item to the customs officials in Canada. When a package is sent via USPS, then I understand that a GREEN CN-22 form is used. However, since I am not aware of exactly how USPS handles air shipments, I may be incorrect. In that case, customs officials in Canada may require a "Commercial Invoice" which is filled out (based on my limited understanding) as a simple paper with: =================================== COMMERCIAL INVOICE Your Name, Address and phone contact number My Name, Address and phone contact number Value of the Drive: $ US 11.50 =================================== It is that simple. I don't set the requirements. Here is my part if you need to send a Commercial Invoice: Fine Services & Co. Ltd. PST Exempt - 1531 2240 2 Inglis Gate Willowdale, Ontario, Canada M2R 3G3 Attention: Jerome Fine (416) 667-8233 Please note that ALL FIVE lines are essential for the complete address and contact phone number. In addition, ALL FIVE lines are essential on the outside of the box and on any shipping document. I will include this information on a sheet of paper which I will include with the money order and the auction Item Number 2006598832. All you will need to do if a Commercial Invoice is required is to add your contact phone number to your name and address plus the actual value of the eBay auction. Again, I don't set the shipping arrangements - they are imposed by Canadian Customs at the port of entry. I you wish, I can prepare the COMMERCIAL INVOICE for you - all you will need to do is add your contact phone number to the paper. I anticipate that you don't wish to violate the requirements that Customs Canada imposes. I certainly don't think that a COMMERCIAL INVOICE is a difficult requirement since it takes less than a minute to fill out. All of our e-mails have certainly taken much longer. Certainly I have never encountered anyone who has ever refused to provide a COMMERCIAL INVOICE to Canadian Customs since all of the information is normally available in any case, just not consolidated onto the form which they insist on - although I agree it is a pain in the posterior if you ask my opinion. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine

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Z80 BigBoard ID Needed

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > If California Digital is still in business, I believe the > > boxed CP/M they were (are?) selling is for the Xerox 820... > > That is certainly possible, Doug. However, the one that they were > selling a while back (for $9.95, IIRC) was for the Xerox 1800 terminal > less "laptop". Whether it is directly compatible with the 810, I do not > know. This purchase was circa 1985... But that's the right price... I'll just have to look at the disks when I get home again... -dq

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Z80 BigBoard ID Needed

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> At 10:03 PM 3/15/02 -0600, you wrote: > >I've got what I was told is a BigBoard. Can someone check > >out the picture at: > > > >http://www.dittman.net/z80.jpg > > > >and see if you recognize it? > > That is a Xerox 820, which is the same schematically as a z80 big board. > The big board was a different form factor (the same size as an 8" floppy > drive) and was usually a kit. If California Digital is still in business, I believe the boxed CP/M they were (are?) selling is for the Xerox 820... If gone now, I have a copy... -dq

23 years, 9 months

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List Management

by mhstein＠canada.com

Another vote of thanks & support for Jay; the solution to the essential problem of wasted bandwidth lies with the rest of us and not him. And Sellam, if you can't refrain from needlessly adding to the pile, you could at least try to be a little less rude & not use profanity. mike

23 years, 9 months

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Free books in Irvine, CA - mostly Apple IIc/e

by mythtech＠mac.com

>14. Apple IIc Scribe User's Manual Is this the manual for the thermal AppleScribe printer? (sounds like it) If it is, can you toss it in the mail for me? Priority is fine with me (so you can get a free envelope or box, or whatever... it isn't a fragile item so a simple priority mail pouch will work well). I can mail you cash, or stamps, or send paypal, or whatever you want to cover postage. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 9 months

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List Management - RESPONSE and how to question

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I, too, appreciate the work Jay has done on the list. I use this list as an example of a large well managed community. Even though there has been a slight increase of Spam recently it is way, way, way below any other list. We generate more Spam about the Spam than the originators. I am not in favor of closing the list just like I am not in favor of closing the community. Some times moderation is necessary but in IMHO less is best. I believe in self moderation, something we seem to be falling down on lately. If we do not reply to or about the Spam it will be hardly noticeable. And here I am adding to it. I would rather learn about how to attack Spam at it's source. I am learning how to decipher the mail headers. I need to figure out how to automate complaint letters. From what I have seen the direct complaint to the service provider works best. Links to any tutorials would be appreciated, as would recommendations on SW. Paxton Astoria, OR PS From what I have seen most of the Spam the list has gotten is very international in it's source and not traceable back to a single source. The FBI would like copies of the Nigerian Scam emails. They are starting to take it more seriously.

23 years, 9 months

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List Management - RESPONSE

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 16, James B. DiGriz wrote: > > Further...there are lots of off-topic conversations on this mailing > > list. I take part in many of them, so I'm as guilty as anyone. But > > you know what? Humans are social animals, and this list is a social > > thing. Many of you are my friends. If there's an off-topic > > discussion here that you don't want to take part in, well, use that > > magical "delete" key...Every mailer has one. > > I am in no way, shape, or form a "people" person, but I can tolerate > socializing if it doesn't interfere with other things. However, if any > of the comments about off-topic conversations I'm seeing here by you and > others intend any reference to my remarks to Sellam about Nigerian > scams, please note that my initial comment was intended purely as a > sympathetic nod to allay any possible concerns that I somehow support > spam just because I don't get bent out of shape about it. I find this to > be a common misperception, no matter how obviously fallacious. It was not my intention to single you out, and I apologize if it came out that way. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Watch those lateral G's man, St. Petersburg, FL I've got sandwiches in my lap!" -Sridhar

23 years, 9 months

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List Management - RESPONSE

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

I feel the need to chime in with some support for Jay. This is a high-traffic list with a lot of recipients, which surely takes a nontrivial amount of bandwidth and system resources to host...people shouldn't lose sight of that fact. I run a couple of fairly large mailing lists myself; something like this isn't a "set it and forget it" thing...Spam is the least of the problems, most of the time. People with crappy network connections whose mail gets backed up and queued, Windows programs that screw up everything in sight when moving mail around, twenty-line messages turning into 50Kbytes due to rampant Microsoft HTMLization bogging down the mail server, etc etc etc. It's a pain in the ass, and it takes a certain amount of babysitting to keep things running smoothly. Jay does a fine job. He may not have started this list, but he runs it now...and that counts for a lot. I hate spam as much as anyone. Actually, I hate spam a lot MORE than most for various reasons. But guess what...My mailer has a "delete" function, and I actually know how to use it! Wow, what a concept. I know, I know..."but spam slows down my net connection!" If your net connection sucks so badly that a little (or a lot) of spam bogs it down, then get something faster. There's no real excuse in this day and age. Spam blows dog, there's no question about it...but it's a fact of life on the internet today. Everyone should fight it whenever and wherever they can, but you WILL get spam if you have an email address. The sooner people learn to deal with that, the happier everyone will be. Further...there are lots of off-topic conversations on this mailing list. I take part in many of them, so I'm as guilty as anyone. But you know what? Humans are social animals, and this list is a social thing. Many of you are my friends. If there's an off-topic discussion here that you don't want to take part in, well, use that magical "delete" key...Every mailer has one. In other words...if anyone here has a life that's so utterly perfect that spam and off-topic discussions can offset the friendship, comeradery, education, and other classiccmp benefits, I'll swap lives with you any day of the week. Sheesh. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Watch those lateral G's man, St. Petersburg, FL I've got sandwiches in my lap!" -Sridhar

23 years, 9 months

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RFQ: boards drilled and undrilled

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> The best free pcb layout program I have found is easytrax for dos. I like PADS-PCB, but the free version is(/was?) limited to about 30 integrated components... -dq

23 years, 9 months

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OT: Memory issues

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

I say OT because some of this applies to newer machines, but I thought it might me worth sharing. I was in a tinkering mood yesterday. I had recently pulled the 256 mb (three dinky DIMMS) from a Pentium II and put in two 256 mb sticks. My motherboard docs state a max of 512 mb, but now I got a spare memory socket and could not resist. I stuck another 32 mb in and fired it up. The BIOS self test ran OK, and it booted to DOS find. But when I brought Microslop Windoze 95, I learned the true meaning of Windoze. You could click on the start button, take a drink of coffee, light up a smoke, and maybe, just maybe, the start menu would appear by the time you did that. A whole new meaning to the word slow. Needless to say, I pulled the 32 mb. Windoze returned to its 'normal' speed. Not content to stop there, I decided to up the size of the ramdisk from 16 mb to 32 mb. Since I boot to the DOS prompt, it was easy to catch the error stating invalid ramdisk parameter. So I took it back to 16 mb and starting incrementing it. I got all the way to 30 mb with no problems, or so I thought. I had only booted to DOS, and not brought up Win95 during the time. With a 30 mb ramdisk I brought it up. My display settings were changed and the display adapter was complaining. I returned the ramdisk to 16 mb and all returned to normal. I found nothing on a specific limit on a ramdisk in any docs I looked at. I have used a ramdisk since my XT days. Now it is almost like they don't want us to know about it. Any thoughts? ---------------------------------------- I also have been trying to add some memory to an old Gateway 486/33 machine I use for utility things. It already has 16 mb. I've tried several combinations of SIMMS all meeting GW requirements (36 bit parity 70 ns). It comes down to no matter what combination I put in, nor how I set the memory dip switches, it won't recognize anything beyond 16 mb. I have the manual of this beast, and it clearly states it is expandable to 64 mb. ---------------------------------------- And finally, I was confused by the recent posting on the DEC 3000/300. The reason was that someone handed me a bag of DEC SIMMS some time back and I thought they were for a 3000 but the descriptions in the recent posting dod not jive with what I had. The ones I have are 100 pin, 10 chip, 70ns and are a 4 mb module with room for another 4 mb on the back. It would seem that mine are for the 3000/400 and maybe higher. Mike

23 years, 9 months

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IBM Display Writer System Available (UK)

by kevan＠heydon.org

I have just been given a Display Writer system complete with CPU, Keyboard, Monitor, Dual 8" floppy drive and some floppy disks. I have been told it works but I haven't tested it myself yet. It is surplus to my requirements so if anybody wants it they can have it. I can test it if there is interest. -- Kevan Collector of old computers: http://www.heydon.org/kevan/collection/

23 years, 9 months

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IBM 1401

by vsnyder＠math.jpl.nasa.gov

I'm involved with a historical preservation project (that has nothing to do with my employer). I'm hoping to find Autocoder, Cobol, Fortran, RPG, Sort 6/7, IOCS, ..., manuals, user-developed applications, the engineering drawings that CE's used for field maintenance, or any other IBM 1401 memorabilia (including equipment!). Do you have any of this stuff, or know anybody who might? Thanks in advance, Van Snyder

23 years, 9 months

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List Management - RESPONSE

by LFessen106＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/16/02 10:03:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, marvin(a)rain.org writes: > Jay West wrote: > > > > Please read the entire message below from the list admin (who is trying > very > > hard not to come out of his skin and choke someone)... Jay, you're doing a fine job and we all owe you some gratitude for keeping the list running as smoothly as it has been. -Linc Fessenden

23 years, 9 months

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Z80 BigBoard ID Needed

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

BTW, I am interested in either a z80 big board or a xerox 820 if anyone has one they want to find a new home for... --tom At 09:03 AM 3/16/02 -0500, you wrote: >> At 10:03 PM 3/15/02 -0600, you wrote: >> >I've got what I was told is a BigBoard. Can someone check >> >out the picture at: >> > >> >http://www.dittman.net/z80.jpg >> > >> >and see if you recognize it? >> >> That is a Xerox 820, which is the same schematically as a z80 big board. >> The big board was a different form factor (the same size as an 8" floppy >> drive) and was usually a kit. > >If California Digital is still in business, I believe the >boxed CP/M they were (are?) selling is for the Xerox 820... > >If gone now, I have a copy... > >-dq > >

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Z80 BigBoard ID Needed

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> BTW, I am interested in either a z80 big board or a xerox 820 if > anyone has one they want to find a new home for... Ditto that, and a Little Boards, too (ISTR Allison's got one or more of the Little Boards)... -dq

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Z80 BigBoard ID Needed

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

At 09:03 AM 3/16/02 -0500, you wrote: >> At 10:03 PM 3/15/02 -0600, you wrote: >> >I've got what I was told is a BigBoard. Can someone check >> >out the picture at: >> > >> >http://www.dittman.net/z80.jpg >> > >> >and see if you recognize it? >> >> That is a Xerox 820, which is the same schematically as a z80 big board. >> The big board was a different form factor (the same size as an 8" floppy >> drive) and was usually a kit. > >If California Digital is still in business, I believe the >boxed CP/M they were (are?) selling is for the Xerox 820... It would appear that it is still available and reasonably priced! http://www.cadigital.com/software.htm --tom >If gone now, I have a copy... > >-dq > >

23 years, 9 months

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List Management - RESPONSE

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Here's a great test. If the thought of using the list to respond to an > off-topic posting is appealing but responding to just the individual > originator of the message isn't, then I'd suggest that maybe you have an > ego problem that is being fed by having a semi-captive audience. I'm in total agreement with this. Believe it or not, each and every time I make first response to such a thread, I do so with the intention of sending it only to the poster... then just after I click send, I once again realize that REPLY goes to the list instead of the SENDER and REPLY TO ALL doesn't work at all... [0] Once I've done that I regret it, but admittedly not enough to stop my subsequent OT posts in that thread. Recently, I've had just enough presence of mind to remember to re-address the message. Outlook is programmable, so it can be made to operate the way I want it to regardless of how brain-dead the listserver software might be (I haven't been happy with any listservers other than the IBM BITNET-hosted ones; this seems to be a function no one else can do right). I guess I need to get started, as soon as the Cyber simulator is finished... [0] If you can't believe that anyone can be this absent-minded, then you haven't interacted with a very wide range of people -dq

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9915a

by roosmcd＠dds.nl

> Where are you located? I'm just outside of Orlando Florida. I'm in the Netherlands, so that's not exactly next door. But I don't think I'm going to have much trouble finding a HP-85, at least I hope not. > > About two months ago I noticed a complete HP-85 (tapes, manuals and a 19" > > rack with HP-IB equipment) > > Was it on a pull out drawer and in a cabinet that was about 18" tall? > If so I've seen those before, they're a data acquision system and it > usually has a HP 3497 Data Acquision unit in the bottom. There's a number > for the complete unit but I can't remeber exactly what it is. Somewhere I > have a couple of manuals and tapes for that system. Yes, that sounds exactly like it. Usually they have stuff standing there for a few months, but this one was gone pretty quick. They normally have lots of weird computer systems (not at the moment; I checked last Friday and it was almost empty), but I tend to stick to the smaller systems; mostly what you see are industrial controllers in 2m tall 19" racks.... Michiel

23 years, 9 months

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urgent business/investment deal

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> >Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > Sure, but SPAM is at least partly pervasive due to the low cost > > of harvesting addresses. This might bump it into the unprofitable > > zone... > > I have asked for comments on the following - does anyone care? I think your solution is somewhat Byzantine. Why not just edit your headers to something that can't be replied to by output from a harvester? Regards, -dq

23 years, 9 months

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WTB: HP-IB CD-Rom

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

> Yes, I have one. But I'm not sure if it works and I haven't had the time >to test it or needed it bad enough to drive me to find a way to test it. That's probably the one I gave you. It was working just fine last year. The caddys can also be hard to find. I look for them at every ham fest / swap meet. SteveRob >At 01:00 AM 3/16/02 +0000, you wrote: > >> > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I'm looking for a HP-IB CD-Rom drive. > > > >Did one ever exist? I've never heard of such an animal... > > > >-tony > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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[GreenKeys] News item for WC2XPF (fwd)

by jpl15＠panix.com

Of possible interest - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:28:44 -0600 From: Paul Kasley <kasley(a)fnal.gov> Reply-To: greenkeys(a)mailman.qth.net To: greenkeys(a)mailman.qth.net Subject: [GreenKeys] News item for WC2XPF John F. Auwaerter,76, Pioneer who helped create computer language by Krystyna Slivinski Special to the Tribune John F. Auwaerter, 76, of Park Ridge, was a pioneer in the telecommunications industry who was instrumental in the development of the American Standard Code for Information Interchange, or the ASCII computer language. The code was the first 8-bit standard code that allowed characters, such as those found on a keyboard, to be represented by the same codes on many different kinds of computers. "That was a major change in standardization for the telecommunications industry," said Sylvan Silberg, a fellow former research engineer at Teletype Corp. The code was developed in the 1960s through Mr. Auwaerter's involvement an Institute of Electrical Engineers committee, Silberg said. "He traveled all over the world defining what this code would represent. This is the code that is still used in PCs today," Silberg said. Mr. Auwaerter died of cancer Saturday, Feb. 23, in Fountain Hill, Ariz. Born in Chicago, Mr. Auwaerter served two years in the Navy as an ensign stationed in the Pacific in World War II. He was a graduate of Northwestern University in Evanston, where he received a bachelor's degree in electrical engineering in the late 1950s. After working as an engineer at General Electric in Baltimore, Mr. Auwaerter joined Teletype Corp. in Chicago. At the same time, he attended DePaul University and got a law degree in the late 1950s. Despite the law degree, Mr. Auwaerter's career remained focused on telecommunications. During the late 1950s, he was responsible for developing a nationwide network that provided up-to-date weather reports every 15 minutes, which teletypes supplied to the Federal Aviation Administration. "He knew how to get the most out of people and make them love it," Silberg said. His other achievements included the creation of a secure high-speed communication network for the federal government in the 1960s. He retired from Teletype in the early 1980s as vice president of sales. "He was quite dynamic and brilliant," said his daughter, Mary Loftus. "He was in charge in whatever he got involved in." Other survivors include two grandchildren. A memorial service will begin at 11a.m. Friday in St. Paul if the Cross Catholic Church, 320 S. Washington Ave., Park Ridge. --Chicago Tribune, March 14, 2002, Thursday (verbatim from Trib) ----------------------------------------------------- Paul Kasley W9TS Fermi National Accelerator Lab, Batavia, IL ----------------------------------------------------- If you push hard enough, it will fall over. _______________________________________________ GreenKeys mailing list GreenKeys(a)mailman.qth.net http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys

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Response to Re: List Management - RESPONSE

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

I Second that! Firstly, regardless of your position on this matter, we must all realize that we are enjoying the *privledge* of using this *public* forum for discourse. This privledge is granted purely by Jay's unselfish contribution of time, effort, and bandwith. We owe Jay alot-- hassling him for something that is part and parcel with a public forum such as ours is unjustified and unfair. The burden of keeping our forum relevent does not lie with one person-- it lies with us all. Help preserve our relevence by keeping your posts on-topic (yeah I know, I'm a guilty party too). Yes, a few bums use our forum as a sleeping place, stinking it up as they tend to do. But we have the power to evict them with the <DEL> key. A small effort by many, is more powerful than a great effort by a few (or the one). It's cold, here in Kansas. I think I'll break up this soapbox, and make a nice warm fire. Maybe I'll even roast a few hotdogs. Jeff On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 23:53:00 -0800 "William R. Buckley" <hhacker(a)ev1.net> writes: > Moral: Jay, given that you were granted control, and given that > others were fully satisfied with your having such control (and the > attendent responsibilities), it is clear that you should not give up such > control (lest the list go the way of the ICWS) and you should stick to your > guns. > > My vote is for Jay! > > William R. Buckley > > Sellam Wrote.... > > Ok, this is where I object. It is NOT your list. This list > > That's funny you should say that now Sellam, because you were the > first one > to post to me privately during the great "reply-to" debate that "it > is your > list, take care of it well....", and "you make the rules... do what > you > wish". I will go dig up your past private email to me that said just > that if > you would like. You have also posted words similar to that on the > list in > the past, I noted them well. I find it interesting that you are > suddenly > changing your tune. Does your past stance on this issue no longer > mesh with > your adgenda perhaps? > > > I don't want you to be the one to decide solely > > how it is run. I, for one, would like some input on issues. > > You do get some input. I listen. However I also make the final > determination. If you don't like it, or feel that I don't get > reasonable > input from the list members, please feel free to start an alternate > list - > that appears to be your motivation in any case. > > > That was true before. Unfortunately, the list has now been > infiltrated > > with spammers, which is quite unfortunate. > > Infiltrated with Spammers? See Jerome's recent post on this topic > for a > reality check Sellam. > > > Kill all off-topic messages (start with this one) as well as > > spam. > > That statement is what a flamer would call a "target rich > environment". I > think I'll leave the gauntlet on the ground. > > > Jay, don't take this too personally, but that answer SUCKS! When > will you > > be "damn well ready"? The list asked for a solution several weeks > ago. I > > think it's time to finally do something. > > Sellam, you're trying to bait me. I'm not falling for it. Live with > it. > > Jay West > > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Does anyone have HP-UX install media for 9000/7xx?

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

If you do, please contact me. I would like to ask you a few questions . . . Thanks! Jeff ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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I have a PDP-11/34 programmer's console, what should I do with it?

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) > Subject: Re: I have a PDP-11/34 programmer's console, what should I do with it? > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 01:08:38 +0000 (GMT) > In-Reply-To: <01aa01c1cc34$96981700$8a0101ac@ibm23xhr06> from "John Allain" at Mar 15, 2 10:17:56 am > Sender: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > > > > tony said: > > > If you then solder the mating part of the connector to stripboard > > > with a track cut between the 2 rows of pins then each pin will be > > > on it's own strip. > > > > This isn't bad, except for that the signals are now one set of > > 1,3,5,7... and one set of 2,4,6,8... If I want to keep the > > contiguous signals together then I have to jumper just about > > I may be missing something here, but is there any reason why you have to > keep the signals in numerical order? OK, you have a PDP11/34 console with > the 20 way (or so) ribbon coming off it. What are you trying to link it > to? If you're building your own interface circuit you're going to have to > route the signals around to different chips, surely. Seems to me that nearly all ribbon cables use even-numbered pins for signal and odd-numbered pins for ground. So signal and ground lines alternate in the cable. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

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More free stuff (you pay shipping)

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

Intel Aboveboard MCA Microchannel memory expansion for MCA 286 (possibly 386) PS/2's with 2MB of 256K simms on it standard parity 30 pin simms, I believe this may be capable of taking 1M simms, and possibly 4M simms, I don't remember. was working when system was scrapped ~ 5 years ago a 384K Ram card for PC's to take you 256k PC up to 640K, fully loaded with 64K drams. worked when it was pulled ~ 4 years ago Microsoft PC Ramcard similar to above, but originally sold by Microsoft.

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Email handlers (was Re: Netscape Mail, was Re: HTML in EMAIL)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Allison wrote: > > > Then there are the longer list of freeware mailers. Theres no excuse for > > living with crud. There is also no excuse for not knowing how to "drive" > > what you have. Doc replied: > Pine. It Isn't Just For Unix Anymore! > There are Win32 ports now. I think there's a fairly stable MacOS <10 > port. > Mutt has more features, and allows more granular tuning, but Pine is > way easy to drive. Okay. I'm probably the last person still using Microsoft Mail. It works okay, but I can't find any information about security holes (or lack of them) in this program, and it does not include the headers in messages which I forward, so it's no good for reporting spam. Sellam, I tried Pegasus v4 and the windows kept popping up in really odd locations and sizes. It also has *way* more bells and whistles than I need. Doc, I tried Pine, but the Win9x version requires that I be on-line to read email. I want to send/receive, logoff, and then read and compose new mail. Other than that, it looks okay. Can some one suggest a simple offline email handler that isn't giving that "come hither" look to every Trojan on earth? And that's free? Glen 0/0

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Schematics or repar informations for a HP9845B

by asholz＠topinform.com

Hi all, I'm interested in any information/documentation regarding the hardware of a HP9845, e.g. schematics, support and repair informations. Kind regards Andreas

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WTB: HP-IB CD-Rom

by asholz＠topinform.com

Hi all, I'm looking for a HP-IB CD-Rom drive. Kind regards from Germany Andreas

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urgent business/investment deal

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I'm just telling you like it is. It's called outreach. There is gear in > the hands of people who, say, come across the archives from links, who > will have no interest whatsoever in subscribing, and we need to keep it > as easy as possible for them to post, or stuff will get junked that > shouldn't. Ancestry.com does this very effectively. They have a message archive, but then you nring up a message, you don't see the RFC822 e-mail address, just the name of the poster. Like with E-Bay, if you want the actual address, you click a link that takes you to a different page. Here is where the difference begins, and why Ancesrty's way is much cooler than E-Bay's (but then _cooler than E-Bay_ isn't hard to do). Anyway, you get a page where the host system looks up the actual e-mail address, then constructs a graphic image ON THE FLY that is a "picture" of the poster's e-mail address. Gonna take a hell of a bot to break through that... Regards, -doug q

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ZX-TEAM meeting and Webcam

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Stan Barr <stanb(a)dial.pipex.com> > Just curious, but what do you guys *do* with ZX81s? I've got one rebuilt in > a large box with loads of i/o ports and a2d converter running multi-tasking > Forth, but I've not plugged it in for a while... Okay, check out: http://home.freiepresse.de/befis/zx96_e.htm Then tell me what you *can't* do with a ZX81 ;>) We can: scan documents control overhead projectors control CNC tools and other robotics run BBSs play audio CDs load programs from CDs burn EPROMs In addition to the above, we also use: AT- and PS/2-style keyboards 5.25" fdds 3.5" fdds IDE hdds LCD screens I've heard that a TCP/IP protocol handler will be unveiled at this year's meeting. Sure, some of these operations are slow, but the point is that we're doing a *lot* with "obsolete" hardware. If we can get this kind of functionality out of a Z80-based system, what could *really* be done with a 486-100, P233, or P4-2.2 GHz system, given the time and brainpower? Sellam once said that the ZX-TEAMers were "fanatical hackers." How else is science advanced, other than fanatical hacking (and dumb luck)? My personal project is WIN-ZX, which will perform many of the tasks Windows 3.1 handled for the PC. Presently it requires a 64KB system with a MEFISDOS-based IDE hard drive, but I hope to trim it down to 16KB and cassette tape. Hope you join us for the chat -- Glen 0/0

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urgent business/investment deal

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > Anyway, you get a page where the host system looks up the > > actual e-mail address, then constructs a graphic image > > ON THE FLY that is a "picture" of the poster's e-mail > > address. > > > > Gonna take a hell of a bot to break through that... > > Not really. OCR algorithms are easily available I'm sure. Sure, but SPAM is at least partly pervasive due to the low cost of harvesting addresses. This might bump it into the unprofitable zone... > Decent system though. Yeah, and if a bunch of genealogists can come up with it, I'd be ashamed to be an IT professional if *we* couldn't do at least as well... -dq

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Semi-OT: PMac 6100 DOS

by mythtech＠mac.com

>> One is the HDI-45 to RGB adaptor, that came with all the "AV" powermacs >> that had the AV video port. >This is the one I've been looking for... I have had this 6100 for over >a year and haven't run across the HDI-45 adapter for less than $15-$20 >shipped. There are literally DOZENS of these on eBay... as long as you don't mind 3rd party ones (if you want a true apple one, you might actually have to look a few times over the course of 2 weeks before one shows up... even those aren't exactly rare). But, you are right, almost all of them end up in the $20 range after shipping (and many before shipping). Again, it isn't because of demand, but rather because 90% of them are 3rd party, all sold by the same person, and all with starting bids of $9.99 + $10 shipping and handling. Almost all go unbid, but because of that, the few that get listed by someone else for lower prices, get driven up by people trying to get a better deal (or from the one guy slamming the bids to make his the cheapest for all I know). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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iSBX-251 Bubble Memory

by ken＠seefried.com

My latest score is an iSBX-251 bubble memory card. Tres kewl. The bonus is that it showed up with a manual complete with schematics. I've got to get a scanner working so I can get it on line, but if anyone has a question, drop me a line. Ken

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List Management; Was Big African Grifters

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Today is March 15, 2002. The latest post available from the online > archives is dated November 30, 2001. That's a hell of a lag. I can't really quite imagine what all must be involved in being part owner of a company, then having to pull out, and either hustle to find a job, or start another company... I'd think you'd want a little safety cushion... At any rate, I'd have thought that by now, he'd have been somewhat settled in... but with the downturn, he might well be having trouble. Bear in mind he's providing the hosting as well as being list owner. Anyone wanting a change of status quo needs to consider we could easliy lay this one someone else who might drop it a month later... -dq

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Any information on Genrad 2620?

by dan＠ekoan.com

Is anyone familiar with a Genrad 2620? There's one at a local surplus warehouse but I can't seem to find anything informative via Google. It's a "Field Service Processor" or something like that, with a fold-down keyboard and a built-in CRT. I can get pictures if it helps, but I'm hoping that someone familiar with the unit would let me know if it's worth picking up. Cheers, Dan

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urgent business/investment deal

by jpl15＠panix.com

What's kinda amusing about this is that various gullible/clueless folks have actually sent substantial money to these clowns like these - of course this is a fairly old and well-known scam that comes from several African (and other) sources in the region. Financial Darwinism in action! Cheers John Death to SPAM, but don't restrict the List. My $.02

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Semi-OT: PMac 6100 DOS

by mythtech＠mac.com

>I've never heard these called "video dongles", and while they don't >come in the package with the 6100 DOS board, the manual says it's >needed, shows its picture, and says it comes with the computer in >which you're trying to install the board. Well.. there are two different video "adaptors" that were being refered to in that thread. One is the HDI-45 to RGB adaptor, that came with all the "AV" powermacs that had the AV video port. I think that was limited to the 6100, 7100, 8100 series (but may have included others). This was needed to connect a standard RGB monitor to the HDI-45 AV video connector. Or, Apple prefered you bought an AV monitor that plugged directly into the port and provided video, audio, ADB, and for some reason I think color calibration (but I might be wrong on the last one). The other "adaptor" or dongle that was being refered to, is the Video Loopback connector for the DOS cards. The two DOS card styles I have (the "Houdini" from the Q610, and the later PC Compatability cards for the PCI Powermacs), required a video cable that plugged from the DB-26 port on the DOS card, looped into the RGB port on the Mac, and had an output for RGB. It enabled you to use one monitor for both DOS and Mac, or if you don't connect the loop to the Mac's RGB, you could use two monitors, one for each world. Also, the Q610 version provided a Joystick/Game/Midi port. That port was not on the cable for the PCI version, as the Game/Midi port was right on the DOS card. The question that seems to have come up is, does the 6100 DOS card have that loopback connector at all? The PCI DOS cards can either use the the external loop connector... OR an internal connector for Macs that support it (you need the GIMO slot, which many of the PCI Powermacs had). There is a possibility the 6100 card does something similar. But, if the 6100 DOS card needs the cable, is most definitly should have come with it. The Q610 came with it, and the PCI cards came with both the internal AND external cables as far as I am aware (I have never bought a PCI one new... two of mine came installed in a 4400 from Apple, and included the external, but not internal cable, and my 3rd came installed in a used 7200 with an internal, but not external... but the eBay ads I have seen for boxed ones, always say they have both internal and external cables, and since you need one or the other cable, and Apple had no way of knowing which PCI Powermac you planned to use it with, it would have made sense to include both styles) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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DEC distribution tapes - VAX vs RISC

by PeksaDO＠Cardiff.ac.uk

Sorry about the HTML - I have now discovered a difference between Pegasus mail V3 and Pegasus mail v4 - V3 worked properly, V4 puts ****ing HTML everywhere ****ing where. Apologies Doug.

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Orange donation

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Yesterday we visited Computer Solutions in Orange, NJ and were given a > lovely HP3000 Series 70. It's a large, but very lovely beastie and so > far, at least, remarkably tractable. Also in the load were boxes of > paper tape, tape reader , full 3000 docs and an HP2108. They also gave > us an Apollo 400 system, server and 6 workstations. Very nice people, > and aa lovely donation. Without a doubt... say, was this from inventory (stuff they sell), or something they once-uon-a-time used? -dq

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Semi-OT: PMac 6100 DOS

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Well.. there are two different video "adaptors" that were > being refered to in that thread. [..snip..] > The question that seems to have come up is, does the 6100 DOS card have > that loopback connector at all? The PCI DOS cards can either use the the > external loop connector... OR an internal connector for Macs that support > it (you need the GIMO slot, which many of the PCI Powermacs had). There > is a possibility the 6100 card does something similar. There is a cable with three or four connectors attached to it; I assume this is what you're referring to. The package is complete, the packing list is still there, I can bring it in tomorrow and scan it. Regards, -dq

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[GreenKeys] News item for WC2XPF (fwd)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Gonna go Google this, but I was pretty sure Ralph Bemer invented ^^^^^ Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob (second time this year I've done this!) -dq

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[GreenKeys] News item for WC2XPF (fwd)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> John F. Auwaerter, 76, of Park Ridge, was a pioneer in the > telecommunications industry who was instrumental in the development of > the American Standard Code for Information Interchange, or the ASCII > computer language. Shades of Al Gore, this "I was first" disease knows no boundaries... Gonna go Google this, but I was pretty sure Ralph Bemer invented ASCII .... -dq

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Need Best Z-80 Disassembler

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 15, 11:09, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > I have a few disassembler stored on some archive > somewhere. But on the chance that a lister might > know of a more modern Z-80 disassembler than what > I'm likely to have, I thought I'd post a query. I use dz80, which you can find at http://www.inkland.org/dz80/index.htm I see the current version is 2.0 (March 2002), but I use 1.31 (June 1999). Actually, I made a few small changes to make the unix version work more like other unix software (mostly to do with option letters and arguments, which were strange and DOS-like in the original, and to allow use of hex and octal in addresses and output, plus a couple of bugfixes for long jumps). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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NEWS: Old Atari games play on Sony Ericsson phones

by bpope＠wordstock.com

Jus' a little news blurb: Mar 14, 2002 8:30 AM PT Old Atari games play on Sony Ericsson phones Mobile phone maker Sony Ericsson on Thursday announced partnerships with two companies making games for mobile phones in its drive to challenge handset market leader Nokia through mobile entertainment. The newly formed handset maker, Sony Ericsson, said partnerships with iFone and Synergenix would enable consumers to download some games for free from the Sony Ericsson Web site, or access others for a fee from an operator's Web site. IFone will be providing games from its Atari catalogue, including classics such as Asteroids and Pong. --Reuters This is from: http://zdnet.com.com/2110-1105-859957.html Cheers, Bryan P.S. Happy PI day!!!

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Need Best Z-80 Disassembler

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Well, The subject says it all... I have a ROM (a 2764 I think, it came to 8K bytes) I need to render into the most readable source code possible. It is Z-80 executable, and contains ASCII strings that have their high-order bits set (yes, PR1ME). I have a few disassembler stored on some archive somewhere. But on the chance that a lister might know of a more modern Z-80 disassembler than what I'm likely to have, I thought I'd post a query. This need comes after having acquired and replaced every single board in my Prime, only to still have it be non-operational. Thanks in advance, -doug quebbeman

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VAXBI fun continues - seeking DEBNT installation docs

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Ethan Dicks wrote: > >ports. No DMB32 or anything like that (not that I would mind locating >one of _those_ either). If only you'd asked 18 months ago :-) >As you can see, it's a full boat - 16MB of RAM in 5 cards. I'd love to >run across an inexpensive MS820-CA or two. I wouldn't mind pulling the If only you'd asked ... :-( >MS820-AAs out, but 16MB is an OK amount of memory for a single user. I'm >also on a long-term quest for free or nearly free KA825 boards - I'd be >nice to bring this up to an 8350. If ... No, done that enough for one email. If you can get three KA820s (or KA825s) you should be able to get that to work too! (But you cannot mix KA820 & KA825). >right from looking at where the Lance chip is on the DEBNT. If anyone >has installation instructions, particularly cabling instructions, >those would be very helpful. The Owner's Manual is available at: http://208.190.133.201/decimages/moremanuals.htm as is the Installation Guide. I *thought* I'd also scanned and sent an install guide for one of the VAXBI ethernet options, but I guess not. When I had one in the lab, my VAX 8350 just mostly worked so I don't have too much experience of playing with the ethernet. The DSB32 and DMB32, and the CPU(s) and memory were all pretty straightforward. The only funny I remember with ethernet is that you need to cable up a little bit extra for the power required by the AUI in the bulkhead. But that may well have been the VAX 6000 ... Antonio

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VCF on MediaTelevision

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: M H Stein [mailto:mhstein@canada.com] > Freedom Fighters? Revolutionaries? Wow! And I thought we > were just weirdos & nerds... I think the politically correct term is "futurist" ;) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Atari PC3000

by KenzieM＠sympatico.ca

I saw one of these yesterday. It looks like a monitor with floppy drive in the bottom, at the back was a plug for the power and another labelled video. I could not see anyplace for a keyboard to be attached. Does anyone know anything about this machine? Collector of Vintage Computers (www.ncf.ca/~ba600)

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[Maybe OT] A/UX installation

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > cdrecord -speed 8 -dev 0,6,0 -eject -v AUX_3.0.1_Install.toast_image > > I don't know if this works or not. I don't know if the image is "real ISO" > (I used Toast, so I couldn't say). > > > When I try to boot up on a IIci, the floppy works ok, and it starts to > > search for the CD in the CD drive. The cd drive is a toshiba 5401B, I > > pulled from an alpha. It never finds a valid disk. So, to try to > > figure out what was wrong, I used BasiliskII (a mac-on-unix emulation) > > and tried to mount the CD image as a disk under system 7.6...and it > > wanted to format it. Should the CD be mountable? > > No, it shouldn't be. Toast complained about it too, but it worked fine > for installation. The boot disk is needed to mount it. I have lots of trouble with older 68k Macs that were used by clueless lusers... in particular, here at my current orkplace, our #1 Mac advocate didn't realize you have to power off the system and SCSI devices when attaching them/ removing hem from the chain. I'm not sure what goes bad after five years of connecting/dosconnecting with the power on (the terminator resistors shouldn't be affected, should they)? But I run into this a lot; I have little luck with CDs on Macs, and more trouble with outboard drives in general than I'd care to say... -dq

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Semi-OT: PMac 6100 DOS

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > > Chris , I'm sorry, you're totally wrong. The 26 pin connector is for an > > >Apple Audio Vision monitor. No F--king Dongle. > > I said a number of times, I have NOT used the DOS card that works with > > the 630/6100... and that is the card in question. > > > > But I CAN tell you that EVERY OTHER dos card Apple made, needs a video > > dongle... and they ALL connect via a DB-26 connector on the back of the > > DOS card... which is exactly what the person described on the back of > > their DOS card. > > > > Now, it is quite possible that Apple put an AppleVision port on the > > 630/6100 DOS card, why, I would have NO idea, since the 630 can't use an > > applevision monitor... but maybe they did. > > > > HOWEVER, on the back of the 6100... is an HDI-45 video port... THAT is an > > AppleVision video port. That is NOT the same thing as the DB-26 on the > > DOS cards. Totally different port, totally different function. > > BUT... I have heard that you do not need a video dongle with the 630/6100 > > DOS card... I just can't confirm it one way or the other... and again, > > since they are describing EXACTLY what will happen to a Quadra 610 > > Houdini DOS card if the dongle is not connected... I felt it was a good > > guess that they might in fact need one. > > > > Now I am REALLY going to have to get 630/6100 DOS card... just so I can > > figure out once and for all if it needs a video dongle (or do you prefer > > the term... video loopback connector) I've never heard these called "video dongles", and while they don't come in the package with the 6100 DOS board, the manual says it's needed, shows its picture, and says it comes with the computer in which you're trying to install the board. Complete package, appears not to have ever been installed, the red Apple seal is still intact on the diskette pack (but was easily pried open by yours truly while checking). I think I even have a 6100 for it to go in, but dunno what I'll ever do with the mess... -dq

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impressive CI - SCSI storage rack from MTI (RAID?)

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi ho, now I hauled it home, the modules of this very impressive MTI StorageWare assembly. It's a marvellous piece of super redundant 24/7 operational gear for any VAX cluster. The fun starts with a box that probably emulates an HSC90 or so, that one has two power supplys, and there are two of those boxes each having the 4 redundant CI connectors. Each box has 3 SCSI (?) connectors that run to another 4-box assembly and there is another layer of redundancy. Then all this drives 4 arrays of 4GB SCSI disks each having 8 such disks. I conclude that this must be a RAID array, because I don't know how else one could address 8 disks on a SCSI bus (isn't 7 devices appart from the controller the maximum?) Initially it seemed straight-forward to use as a simple CI/HSC to SCSI adapter, but now it looks like this stuff is best kept as one big impressive unit. I'm going to try find the manuals for this too. Does anyone have experience with this kind of gear? regards, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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Macintosh Portable power supply?

by dan＠ekoan.com

I recently acquired a Macintosh Portable (M5120) but it came without a power supply. Does anyone have a spare they'd like to get rid of? Cheers, Dan

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MicroVAX-II questions

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 8, Doc Shipley wrote: > Just got home with my brand-spanking-old MVII and set about playing > with it. It's indecently clean inside, cables all in good shape, fans > all free and clean, cards well seated. Sounds like a girl I once knew. > I even managed to get them all back in properly, in order, and the > cables connected right. This too. > This means I would, if I had the distribution hardware for the DHQ11s, > have 25 serial interfaces? (plus console) What exactly is the DMV11? > "Synchronous communications controller" sounds like it requires a DMV11 > on the other end as well. It's a sync serial interface...you'd connect it to a CSU/DSU and a leased line, or something similar. > Everything VMS I've looked at says the DEQNA is unsupported in VMS > >v5.2. Is that unsupported as in "don't call DEC/Compaq/HP", or > unsupported as in "it don't work"? Am I stuck with NetBSD then? Does > anyone know if NBSD will mop-boot over the DEQNA? I don't have VMS > older than 6.2. DELQAs are fairly easy to come by. If you want one and can't find one immediately, email me. > Anybody have 2 breakout boxes for the M3107, and no M3107? We could > equalize.... For that matter, if anybody needs the card, I'll just > share. I might have one of these, I will check. Email me if you don't hear back about this by the end of the weekend. > You know you're over the edge when the lack of ethernet access in your > garage is a problem. Nah...that's just a *start*. -Dave -- Dave McGuire St. Petersburg, FL "Less talk. More synthohol." --Lt. Worf

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Heads up... free MVII/PDP-11 on eBay UK

by alan.pearson＠cramer.com

> > Apparently, this chap has a free PDP11 & MicroVax-II going to > > a good home... > > > The PDP-11/73 will be taking a car journey here next week ... I think - but > am not sure - that the Vax is also spoken for. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Digest blues strike again :-) Ah well. Al.

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Breaking into my Newton

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Of course, the problem is that it's password protected and stuffed if I >know what it was. Any ideas on how to break in (I suspect after so many >years I don't really care about the data although it'd be fun to find out >what I saved there). > >This is an Original Messagepad running OS 1.3. IIRC, if you hold the power button ON (slide the switch down like you are turning it on, but hold it down), and then press the reset button inside the battery compartment... that will wipe the system memory. That will reset the password as well as wipe out EVERYTHING you might have had loaded.... basically it defaults it back to factory settings. (Although, I think any system upgrades you installed are preserved). There is probably a tech note about this on Apple's web site, as it was a fairly common issue back in the Newton days. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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VAXBI fun continues - seeking DEBNT installation docs

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

Since I have the hood open on my 8200, I thought I'd diagnose the troubles I've been having with getting a DEBNT working in there. The 8200 I have came with a KDB50, 4MB RAM and one CPU. Nothing else (and was $13,000 when my former employer bought it - I just re-found the receipt). The only serial ports are the four console ports. No DMB32 or anything like that (not that I would mind locating one of _those_ either). Since it first arrived, I put in more RAM, COMBOARDs (that we made) and a DWBUA (which I'm diagnosing for its own problems). I am now attempting to use a DEBNT I received some time back. Here's what it looks like inside... T1001 KA820 - 8200 CPU T1010 DWBUA - Unibus adapter T1001 KA820 - 8200 CPU (not installed at present) T1002 KDB50 - KDB50 SDI adapter T1003 KDB50 - KDB50 Processor board T1019 MS820-BA - 4MB RAM for VAXBI processor T1019 MS820-BA - 4MB RAM for VAXBI processor T1019 MS820-BA - 4MB RAM for VAXBI processor T1008 MS820-AA - 2MB RAM for VAXBI processor T1008 MS820-AA - 2MB RAM for VAXBI processor 1294 CBSBI - COMBOARD-BI (sync comms front end processor) T1032 DEBNT - Ethernet and TK50 controller (I used http://www.stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au/vax/VAXBI.html for reference) As you can see, it's a full boat - 16MB of RAM in 5 cards. I'd love to run across an inexpensive MS820-CA or two. I wouldn't mind pulling the MS820-AAs out, but 16MB is an OK amount of memory for a single user. I'm also on a long-term quest for free or nearly free KA825 boards - I'd be nice to bring this up to an 8350. The disks are 3rd-party ESDI (1.2Gb each) drives on a 3rd-party ESDI- to-SDI controller. Very nice. Beats an RA81 hands down. At the moment, I'm running VMS 5.4 and plan to continue for some time (due to compatibility needs for the COMBOARD stuff I used to write). I do have a pair of RA70s I was thinking of putting on it as well. So... the DEBNT itself fails self-test if there is nothing attached to the AUI connector. If I attach a DEC loopback connector to the AUI plug, ISTR I get the yellow LED telling me it passed. If I put a 10BaseT transceiver on there, the TX light stays lit with no networking drivers/software loaded. First and foremost, I'm attempting to verify I put the cables on the right places. I have 30-pin connector off one end of the AUI cable. I have a 30-pin connector with one wire attached that seems to be a jumper block of some kind. At the moment, they are attached to the BI backplane at block "E", I think because that's what seemed to be right from looking at where the Lance chip is on the DEBNT. If anyone has installation instructions, particularly cabling instructions, those would be very helpful. Once I get the hardware happy, I'll need to move to software. Since I want to stay at VMS 5.4, what are my TCP/IP options as a hobbyist? The only other VAX I have set up with Ethernet is also running 5.4 - a uVAX-II with a DEQNA. I do have VMS 6.1, but I'm not using it at the moment. Thanks for any DEBNT and VAXBI tips and hints. I have some docs, but not everything. Mostly, I'm drawing on general VAX experience combined with observation and experimentation. I know my way around the VAXBI bus, but not around some of the peripherals. -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/

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Fun with a DWUBA

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Gunther Schadow <gunther(a)aurora.regenstrief.org> wrote: > Ethan, I'm glad to hear you are making headway in fixing your > fried board... I was up to my elbows in the 8200 last night. I think I've identified the target pin on the DD11DK that is the destination of the damaged pin in the first place - BB2 which is defined as a ground. This is odd because on the paddle card, the signal is individually routed over pin 30 of JP2 and is not tied to anything else on either end. Having inspected the cable carefully, multiple times, I'm still scratching my head as to how the damage could have happened in the first place. I had notes written right on the Unibus cables where they stick onto the back of the VAXBI - the notations match the docs (I have the DWBUA technical manual with installation instructions). I can't even see how putting the paddle card in backwards would have caused a massive problem. I'm afraid to hook everything up and power it on again before I identify what was wrong. OTOH, I did drop the T1010 card in the VAX and look for its presence on the bus. With the cables disconnected, the card fails self-test (Duh!) but when I go to read the ident register of the DWBUA (E 20000000), I get back FFFFFFFF, not the expected value (as documented in the manual). Having written VMS VAXBI drivers in the past, I can say that this is not good. The card "shows up" - the POST shows a "-0", so the VAXBIIC of the DWBUA is detected, but it's exceedingly unhappy. I am suspecting that the card is more fried than one chip. I'll keep working on it to see if the card needs a rudimentary amount of attachment to the UNIBUS to get far enough into its self-test to initialize the ident register, but I'm not hopeful about it - I think it should show the world what it is, even if it's unhappy. Fortunately, I have docs for all of this. At this time, I suspect the M9313 UET, the DD11DK, the cables and the T1010 card. I just have to narrow down the list of suspects. I suppose I could drop the card in with the chip at risk removed and a lead hanging out so I can monitor what's happening on that pin. The pin itself happens to go to the outer-most pad on the VAXBI bus, looking at the board, it's the farthest pad >from the VAXBIIC on the solder side. It goes diagonally in more-or-less a straight line to a pin of a DEC DC021C, 4 or 5, IIRC (it's not in front of me here). Either that pin sources a whopping amount of current >from the DC021 and it was shorted to ground by a bad cable or a problem in the BA11, or somehow a very wrong voltage came from the BA11 into that pin. It's the only way I can see how a trace can get cooked and the chip melted at that pin. Back to the basement... -ethan ===== Visit "The Seventh Continent" http://penguincentral.com/penguincentral.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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Free books in Irvine, CA - mostly Apple IIc/e

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Is this the manual for the thermal AppleScribe printer? ... DOH! that was supposed to be sent off list... sorry -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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info on IBM 4-slot PCMCIA controller

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/14/2002 9:54:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, rschaefe(a)gcfn.org writes: << So far, all I've found is two or three references to it on IBM's site. Nothing comes up for the part number 40G1041. At least, I think it's the part number-- it looks like all the other part numbers. Pretty sure it's on topic too, at least the 82365s on the back are dated '92. Anyone know what the settings are? It's got a 4-position DIP switch for `SLOT ADDR, `IRQ', and `ROM ADDR', and also a slide-switch marked `BLK1 BLK0'. I wonder what that does. I hope I can put this thing to use--it's really pretty nice, at least to look at. It's got little solenoids to physically lock the cards in the slot. Only trouble (aside from not knowing what it's set for) is that it's just a hair too wide to fit into the two computers I've tried it in so far. Hope I can find something to put it in! >> Sounds like it fits the IBM PS/2 E, machine type 9533. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

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Xerox XPS v4.2-v4.3.8

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

What the heck is it? A stack of TK50 tapes - is it a VMS add-on, an OS, a printing subsystem or what? Doc

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urgent business/investment deal

by jhfine＠idirect.com

>minespower steel wrote: > VERY CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS ATTENTION STRICTLY FOR YOU ONLY > > FROM THE DESK OF > ALHAJI USMAN YERIMA. > IKOYI, LAGOS. > PHONE;234-803-3088-100 > BUSINESS ATTENTION. > URGENT BUSINESS DEAL > > I am pleased to send my greetings to you, I know > this letter will definitely come to you as a surprise package, and you will be wondering how i came about your contact, actaully, i came about your contact when i was browsing through the internet, on looking for a trustworthy, confidential and honest partner with whom i can transact this business with, i then came about your contact and decided to contact you > > I am extending this proposal to you in my capacity as the chairman of the contractReview/Audit > Committee scrutinizing all record covering executed contract awarded byprevious > military government of Nigeria. My colleagues and I have uncovered afloating > amount of USD$22,500,000.00 (TWENTY TWO MILLION, FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND > U.S.DOLLARS), without a clear beneficiary owing to a deliberate act of over > invoicing and inflating of contract value by some government officials.This > money (USD$22.5M),has already been approved for payment by the ministry of > Mines, Powerand Steel and is secured under . As top civil servants we are not authorized > to operate foreign bank account and this is why we want to use your bank account > to transfer this money outside Nigeria. We have accepted you as our foreign > partner and will now regularize the approvals to you as the trust beneficiary of > the contractsum.As soon as we receive your acceptance, we shall inform you of > the necessary requirements from you to facilitate transfer. Let us use this > opportunity toexploit the benefit of this sum. We have resolved to give 20% of > the totalsum as compensation for your assistance, 70% is for me and my partners > here in Nigeria, 10% is set asideto cover every expenses made in the course of > the transaction. Note that this should be confidential. Send your urgentresponse > strictly through my E-mail: usmanyerima(a)onebox.com,as this is a confidential mailbox Please do not fail to reply > me with your private Telephone and fax numbers for easy communication. > Yours faithfully, > > THANKS AND GOD BLESS > > USMAN YERIMA > > ps; while I await your reply at most by tuesday, if you do not reply, I > will have no choice but to find another alternative. Anyone interested in seeing where the money should be sent? Should be able to have a bit of fun. I though there had been enough publicity on this one that everyone would remember the Nigeria scam by now. Also, do any of the police in Nigeria care? Can police in any other country trace this sort of thing? Or do the police just say to toss it and forget it? Better have a well protected site - they may just be sending back a virus!

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