- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by steven_j_robertson＠hotmail.com

I have an 820 I'll let go reasonably. Shipping will be a bit of a PITA. Where are you located? SteveRob >From: Tom Uban <uban(a)ubanproductions.com> >Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: RE: Z80 BigBoard ID Needed >Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 08:34:35 -0600 > >BTW, I am interested in either a z80 big board or a xerox 820 if >anyone has one they want to find a new home for... > >--tom > >At 09:03 AM 3/16/02 -0500, you wrote: > >> At 10:03 PM 3/15/02 -0600, you wrote: > >> >I've got what I was told is a BigBoard. Can someone check > >> >out the picture at: > >> > > >> >http://www.dittman.net/z80.jpg > >> > > >> >and see if you recognize it? > >> > >> That is a Xerox 820, which is the same schematically as a z80 big >board. > >> The big board was a different form factor (the same size as an 8" >floppy > >> drive) and was usually a kit. > > > >If California Digital is still in business, I believe the > >boxed CP/M they were (are?) selling is for the Xerox 820... > > > >If gone now, I have a copy... > > > >-dq > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Free stuff! Adaptec AAA-131U2 Raid SCSI stuff (no card!)

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

While at a surplus place today I picked up a box for an Adaptec SCSI Raid controller card model AAA-131U2. There's no card in it but the docs and SW are there along with the original box.l If anyone wants it slip me a few bucks for beer and postage (book rate, right Doc?) and it's your's. There's also a couple of manuals and a disk for something called Adaptec CI/O Management in the box. I don't know if it came with the card but I'm throwing it in anyway. Joe

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Fw: Apple Part # for IIgs SCSI card

by thedm＠sunflower.com

I know for a fact that the HIGH Speed card works wonderfully in a IIGS as I have one in mine. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris" <mythtech(a)mac.com> To: "Classic Computer" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:39 PM Subject: Apple Part # for IIgs SCSI card > I have a lead on some Apple II SCSI cards, but the seller knows nothing > about them other than the Apple part #. > > Anyone have a clue if any of these will work with the IIgs (or which > systems these work with?) > > >2, Apple II High Speed SCSI Card #661-0499 USED > > >1, Apple II SCSI Card USED > > >1, Apple SCSI Card #661-0499 USED. > > Also, what are these worth? The seller doesn't know, so I have to offer a > price if I want one, but I want to make sure I don't offer a ridiculous > price (either too high, or too low) > > > Thanks! > > -chris > > <http://www.mythtech.net> >

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More VMS

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Your assumption was partially correct. A DEC terminal such as VT340 is required IF your using a serial connection. (some of the protocal info is in the tube). There are clones that know how to as well. Another connection could be an XZY generic terminal through a latserver. A PC running the required software to emulate a DEC VT340 or VT420. This software is SETHOST (runs under dos and was part of pathworks package). NOTE: this can use either a NIC (LAT) or Serial line. DEC VT1200 (and others) support multisession via LAT. OR... any combo of VAXen with tube/keyboard and maybe mouse. Some of those combos are like unix in the overal topology others require a DEC multisession tube or a clone of same. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:51 PM Subject: Re: More VMS >On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Allison wrote: > >> Whats hardware dependent about the VMS version? The unix version >> assumes a locally connected "head" or a Xserver/Xterm system. > > Sorry; I misread your original post, and thought that multisessions >required a later model DEC terminal. > The unix screen doesn't assume any TERM definition. I've run it from >serial terminals, ssh sessions, and text-mode logins with a variety of >term definitions. The Linux, *BSD and AIX versions all set the virtual >terminal to its own termcap. It makes AIX almost convenient.... > > > Doc >

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More VMS

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Roger Merchberger wrote: >Is this an example of VAX/VMS assembly language? Yes >And if so, what would a good reference be to learn it? The complete documentation set is at: http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/ The MACRO-32 manual specifically is at: http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/73final/4515/4515PRO.html Antonio

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More VMS

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Merchberger [mailto:zmerch@30below.com] > Is this an example of VAX/VMS assembly language? > And if so, what would a good reference be to learn it? Looks like MACRO32 to me -- so yes, it's basically VAX assembly. I don't know of a good place to learn it (don't know it, myself), but I hear that there is a reference in with all of the VMS manuals on the Compaq web page. You may or may not be aware that you can get a MACRO32 compiler (Yep!) for Alpha VMS, and very likely VMS on Itanic when that shows up. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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More VMS

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: John Allain [mailto:allain@panix.com] > > You can use spawn/nowait to run stuff "in the background," > > . . . you can even use SET PROCESS (I think) to switch > > between foreground and background jobs, > That may have been ATTACH {process} that you recall. > Also, you could suspend foreground with a simple control > key press. With mappable keys this could be a just a two > key process. This as of 1986. Yep, sorry, it's been a long day already. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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tektronics 503 scope

by earl＠advantagecomputer.net

Was wondering what a tek 422 would cost and are they available. Please give me some ideas. Thanks Earl

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More VMS

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Whats hardware dependent about the VMS version? The unix version assumes a locally connected "head" or a Xserver/Xterm system. The terminal can be others as I belive some of the later VT clones also had it. Also if you running a DEC system that has a "head" that implied terminal does both DECwindows and Multisessions. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: Re: More VMS >On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Allison wrote: > >> Yes, If you use a terminal like VT330, 340or later there is >> what VMS calls multisessions. Some fo the LAT servers >> also support this with more common VT220s or VT320s. >> I was added late in VMS 4.mumble and later versions. >> This is not decwindows which is GUI based. >> >> What multisession allows is several virtual terminals over several >> virtual circuits using one terminal and physical circuit. I use it alot. > > Yeah, that's pretty much what I was talking about. The Unix screen >tool is hardware-independent, though. The host manages the virtual >sessions and display. I have an RS/6000 that's usually running with an >IBM 3151 [1] terminal, and screen & su allow me to be several users or >run several login sessions. > An additional feature of screen is its "detach" function. You can log >in remotely, start screen, start a job that doesn't support detach, >detach the screen session, and log out. Log in later, reattach from >screen, and watch your job. Yes, I'm familiar with nohup, but this is >more convenient if I'm actually watching output. > >[1] - What am I missing here? AFAICT, the 3151 is the lamest, most >featureless serial terminal of its time. No options, no usefull >emulations, really bad CRT. Bleah! > > > Doc > >

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Northern California swap meets

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 27, Erik S. Klein wrote: > I used to go to the Trenton swap meet in the early 1980s (I remember failing > to buy a loaded Altair 8800 system w/ 2 8" drives, paper tape reader, > terminal and other goodies all on a rolling rack because I couldn't figure > out how to get it home) and enjoyed browsing the toys and discards. Ahh, TCF was wonderful before it turned into yet another "buy your new Taiwanese PC here" show. I went to all of them from about 1982 through 1990, selling for all but one or two years. I had a great time, every time! -Dave -- Dave McGuire "...it's leaving me this unpleasant, St. Petersburg, FL damp feeling on my shorts..." -Sridhar

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Northern California swap meets

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Erik S. Klein" <eklein(a)impac.com> wrote: > Are there any similar swap meets in the NorCal area? Yes, at Foothill College in Los Altos Hills and the Livermore Amateur Radio Klub swap meet at Las Positas College in Livermore. See <http://www.kce.com/junk.htm> for details. Where are you? -Frank McConnell

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Apple Part # for IIgs SCSI card

by mythtech＠mac.com

I have a lead on some Apple II SCSI cards, but the seller knows nothing about them other than the Apple part #. Anyone have a clue if any of these will work with the IIgs (or which systems these work with?) >2, Apple II High Speed SCSI Card #661-0499 USED >1, Apple II SCSI Card USED >1, Apple SCSI Card #661-0499 USED. Also, what are these worth? The seller doesn't know, so I have to offer a price if I want one, but I want to make sure I don't offer a ridiculous price (either too high, or too low) Thanks! -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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DEC Hardware design available

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Saku Setala wrote: > > >I have been also looking for this item, so if anybody willing to sell/swap >one in Finland or nearby, please contact.. I've not really followed this thread, but if this is the Gordon Bell book you can pass the time by reading the online version: http://www.ulib.org/webRoot/Books/Saving_Bell_Books/ Not as convenient as a hardback copy, but probably easier to obtain! Antonio

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More VMS

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Set term/ I forget the specific incantation It's been years since I had to set it on my systems. Yes, the vt420 supports it. The F3 or was it F4 key selects between sessions. Each session can be the same or a different account. NOTE: the Vt420 supported both multisessions over one line and multisessions over multiple lines(same for VT340). Allison -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Smith <csmith(a)amdocs.com> To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: RE: More VMS >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Allison [mailto:ajp166@bellatlantic.net] > >> What multisession allows is several virtual terminals over several >> virtual circuits using one terminal and physical circuit. I >> use it alot. > >I haven't seen this yet. Can I do that on my vt420? > >Just how would I go about it? > >Chris > > >Christopher Smith, Perl Developer >Amdocs - Champaign, IL > >/usr/bin/perl -e ' >print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); >' >

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More VMS

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] > Is there a "screen" app for VMS? Screen allows you to use "virtual > screens" - that is have several sessions going on one terminal. You > page through them by hotkey. Have you tried screen? :) Seriously, It's a GNU app, maybe somebody put conditionals in for VMS. It would take a bit of work. I have considered trying that, myself, if it's not already done, but it would have to wait until my Cthugha on IRIX is working solidly, putting it somewhere ahead of TERM on the UnixPC in the project pipeline ;) You can use spawn/nowait to run stuff "in the background," somewhat like the Unix "thing &" -- you can even use SET PROCESS (I think) to switch between foreground and background jobs, and EVE will let you at least run DCL commands in a window. I'm not sure whether you can have more than one DCL command in different windows at the same time, but I don't see why not. At any rate, the best bet if you really want "screen" is to try running "screen" on it. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Rockewell System 65

by mhstein＠canada.com

That's it all right; dual 5" floppies, 16K SRAM, OS in ROM, RS232 & Parallel, and lots of optional modules for developing, emulating & programming R6500 stuff & the R6500/1 single-chip micros. mike ---------------Original Message--------------- Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 19:50:03 +0100 From: "Hans Franke" <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de> Subject: Re: Rockewell System 65 > In digging around, I again ran across the Rockwell System 65. A google > search didn't turn up any references except to a Forth system designed > to run on that system. Anyone know anything about this thing? Thanks. D'oh. Wasn't that the 'big' development system from Rockwell for the 6502 - before the AIM ? I think I remember something like that. Servus H.

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More VMS

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Allison [mailto:ajp166@bellatlantic.net] > What multisession allows is several virtual terminals over several > virtual circuits using one terminal and physical circuit. I > use it alot. I haven't seen this yet. Can I do that on my vt420? Just how would I go about it? Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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QL-Quality (Was: ZX-81 Question)

by Richard.Sandwell＠roebry.co.uk

>> It sold for \pounds 399 in the UK. Yup, paid my money ...and waited...and waited! Worth it in the end. > My view is that had it sold for \pounds 600 or so and had a real disk > drive, real serial ports, and a useable keyboard then it might have sold > rather better in the UK. >Maybe they should have had a 'professional' version with an >external keyboard and disk drives, to satisfy both markets. >Anyway, history. Can't remember - did Sinclair license the technology to ICL and *cough* BT? Would the Merlin Tonto and ICL OPD (one per desk) have covered off the professional market perhaps? For those of us that were serious about computing, that didn't have access to the kind of money a PC or Mac cost, the QL was a godsend. 68k assembler was a bit of a jmp after Z80 though! //Rich

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More VMS

by Adrian.Graham＠corporatemicrosystems.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] > Sent: 27 March 2002 15:41 > To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org' > Subject: Re: More VMS > > > On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Alan Pearson wrote: > > > As an aside to the current VMS discussion, does anyone know > > of an equivalent to the Unix "su -" command for VMS? > > > At the moment I'm using an ST running UNITERM hooked up to a > > 3100/30's console port so I'm stuck with just the one login session > > at a time - occasionally I'd like to be able to flip over to SYSTEM > > without having to mess about with logging out of AL and into SYSTEM > > and back :-) Any ideas? > > Is there a "screen" app for VMS? Screen allows you to use "virtual > screens" - that is have several sessions going on one terminal. You > page through them by hotkey. Yup. NDC Multisessions does an excellent job of that, but it's not cheap...... a

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NIB: OS/2 Warp Connect, red spine

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Y'all, I was at a thrift store this evening and they have the aforementioned still in the shrinkwrap for $10. Oh, yeah, it's the CD-ROM, not floppies (did Connect even come in floppies?). I already have the blue version, so if anybody wants it for $15 + shipping, I'll go get it. First ask gets it. Don't forget, it weighs a couple of pounds.... Shipping will likely be $6-$10 stateside. That's right, I intend to make the lordly sum of about $4 for the trip into town. :) Doc

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6800 System - Schematic Needed

by tlindner＠ix.netcom.com

I saw this over on comp.sys.m6809. I was hopng someone here could help this guy. Begin message: > From: Mike <ipscone555(a)msdsite.com> > > I know this is a long shot but I have a nice 6800 based single board > computer, with keypad and LED display. It is mounted in a 2 slot > chassis that has a smoked glass cover and wood sidings. > > It's very nice and works well. Problem is that I don't have a > schematic and don't know how the memory and I/O are mapped. It also > has a couple of 16 pin devices that are not installed. I guess I can > buz it out and figure out what is there but that is a massive amount > of work > > The system is marked: ASCI u68, System-X. > > I have tried an internet search but can't find anything on it. I > think it was used in a class for learning microprocessors back in late > 70s. > > Anyone have any leads on were I might find a schematic? > > photos a: http://www.msdsite.com/comp/u68.html > > Thanks, > Remove 555 from email to email an answer. -- tim lindner tlindner(a)watermarkpress.com "Life. Don't talk to me about life." - Marvin, the android

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Turbo BASIC (was Re: QL (was: ZX-81 Question))

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Christopher Smith <csmith(a)amdocs.com> If anyone has a copy of Turbo BASIC with manual I'd like to buy one . . . > For a while I used Turbo Basic under MS-DOS. It was an > incredible development environment... for a BASIC ... running > under MS-DOS... Ok, so it was "passable." Still :) No, it was incredible. Removing the constraints of using line numbers was a huge improvement on its own. Allowing variables local to a function or procedure was a nice bonus as well. > Both of the above examples are compilers, though, I think. Turbo BASIC also has an interpretive mode. Glen 0/0

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OT: Pal m programming book recommendations

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: I'm looking to start a software project for the Palm platform and was wondering if anyone on the list had recommendations for a good beginning to intermediate book. Amazon lists quite a few but I haven't gone to the physical bookstore yet to preview them. Thanks. Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile)

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QL-Quality (Was: ZX-81 Question)

by alan.pearson＠cramer.com

> For those of us that were serious about computing, that didn't have access > to the kind of money a PC or Mac cost, the QL was a godsend. Too right, I still remember the day I wandered past Currys in Banbury and saw they'd repriced QL's at ?199! Wandered home in a fret thinking "can I afford it?"... agonised over it for a week or so then bought it anyway :-) Best box I ever bought - within a week or so I had the Lattice assembler and a copy of the Technical Manual and was digging around QDOS, and soon after that I'd got a 3.5" disk drive (whoa, a whole "1440 sectors" on one disk!) and a C compiler. That was it, my metamorphosis into a complete "dalek" was complete :-) Al.

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QL (was: ZX-81 Question)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 18:54:13 -0500 Douglas Quebbeman > <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com> writes: > > I was talking about the DEC BASIC that made BASIC famous, > > the BASIC from TOPS-10 and TOPS-20 on the DECsystem-10. > > > > > VAX BASIC V3.8-000 > > > > Looks like some kind of vacuum cleaner to me... > > Hey, as far as I'm concerned, it isn't BASIC unless it's > BASIC-PLUS running under RSTS/e. > > Sorry, you guys resurrected and old (and very fond) > memory . . . Hey, Jeff, it's ok... someone will eventually post MY COMPUTER LOVES ME WHEN I SPEAK DARTMOUTH BASIC ;)

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More VMS

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

Alan Pearson wrote: >At the moment I'm using an ST running UNITERM hooked up to a >3100/30's console port so I'm stuck with just the one login session >at a time - occasionally I'd like to be able to flip over to SYSTEM >without having to mess about with logging out of AL and into SYSTEM >and back :-) Any ideas? Assuming you have DECnet installed you can do: $ SET HOST 0 and log in as SYSTEM. I run my VAxstation the same way - almost everything I do, I do with the unprived user account. Occasionally I fire up another terminal to do some stuff with SYSTEM. To be honest, once it's all set up, it doesn't need much tending to, so there's not too much need for SYSTEM access. What sort of things are you doing that need SYSTEM access ? Antonio

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Phi-Deck Manual

by mhstein＠canada.com

Anybody need/want a tech manual for the digital group Phi-Deck Cassette Storage System (Controller and Deck)? mike

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Teletype Equipment in Denver

by drhouse＠abac.com

Mike, Is Eric Smith still around? How can I get the equipment from Denver? I have a cargo trailer and truck but would need information. Thanks for any information! Don >It sounded like maybe Tom had some additional stuff for you. > >In any case, I encourage you to call Eric tomorrow (or even now!) to find >out exactly what his plans are. > >-Mike > > >On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, Don Robert House wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:05:22 -0700 >> From: Don Robert House <drhouse(a)nadcomm.com> >> To: Mike Cheponis <mac(a)Wireless.Com> >> Subject: Re: Fwd: Eric Smith asked me to post this >> >> Well I am still puzzled. The four small boxes he picked up in >> Jamestown New York are the items I am hoping to pick up in >> Bakersfield. >> > > Don > > > > >I'm pretty sure he had to leave quite a few things in Colorado, so I >> >don't think he will be stopping in Bakersfield on this trip. The uhaul >> >guy did some eyeballing of the load and, even with all the chicago stuff >> >unloaded, still thought what was left was overloading the truck. (!). I >> >don't think he got yelled at, I think they just replaced the springs. >> > >> >There is A Plan to go get that Colorado stuff plus some other stuff in >> >the next couple of months, tho, as I understand it. >> > >> >-Mike > > > > > >On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Don Robert House wrote: >> > >> >> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 20:35:58 -0700 >> >> From: Don Robert House <drhouse(a)nadcomm.com> >> >> To: Christian Fandt <cfandt(a)netsync.net>, Mike Cheponis >><mac(a)Wireless.Com>, >> >> Tom Kleinschmidt <tomkleinschmidt(a)home.com> >> >> Subject: Re: Fwd: Eric Smith asked me to post this >> >> >> >> I sure hope I get enough warning when he is coming to Bakersfield. >> >> > > >> Don -- -------------------------------------------------------- Don Robert House, N.S.E. Curator, NADCOMM North American Data Communications Museum 3841 Reche Road Fallbrook, CA 92028-3810 760-723-9943 Office 760-723-9984 FAX URL: http://www.nadcomm.org e-mail: drhouse(a)abac.com

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Turbo BASIC (was Re: QL (was: ZX-81 Question))

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> > Well, I may be able to help you out here. I've got TB and a book or two. Thanks, Dick! I just found the manual, so all I really need are the disks, or copies of them. Let me know how much to send you, or if you prefer to email 'em that'll work too. Glen 0/0

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HP 9114B drive question (Hey Joe!)

by vp＠mcs.drexel.edu

"Ernest" <ernestls(a)attbi.com> wrote: > What size floppy disks does the HP 9114B drive use? Is it 720k or 1.44 meg? they use 720K floppies HP 110, Portable PLUS and the IBM PC (using the HP-IL card) use 512 bytes per sector, 9 sectors per track for a formatted capacity of 710K The Series 40 and 70 use 256 bytes per sector, 16 sectors per track for a formatted capacity of 630K The lower capacity is due to the fact that the 9114 spares tracks to be used as replacements for bad sectors on the diskette. **vp

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ZX81 and 6116

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Hans Franke <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de> > Well, my instruction reads that L1 has to be set as soon as you have > a 4118 (or the otehr way around, it is only to be left out if you have > two 2114). Please check also the scanned assembly instructions at the > ZX Team pages (English Version) > http://home.t-online.de/home/p.liebert/f_zx81_e.htm Well, the schematic is also available on the TEAMs site (adjacent to the assembly instructions), although "L1 for 1K" and "L2 for 2K" does not exactly specify the number of RAM ICs . . . There were a number of revisions of the PCB which were issued. BUT -- I have 2 ZX81 PCBs and 1 TS1000 PCB close at hand, and what I found is that NO jumper is installed on either of the ZX81 boards (both are Issue One and have 2x2114), but the TS1000 (Issue 3 with a single 2016) has L2 (actually marked LK2) installed. I have a couple of dozen more of these at my shop, and will check them out as well. > BTW, have I already told the story that I build a > casher out of a ZX81 ? No, but I'd like to read it ;>) Glen 0/0

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AMD am7960

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 26, Richard Erlacher wrote: > Volume, particuarly in SAN and MAN applications, will drive the prices down. > Once the cost is low enough, you might as well have lightspeed on your > desktop. Yes yes, but a little balance might be nice. Most system busses can't handle that sort of bandwidth...so what's the point? Faster is better...but only if it's *useful*. Upgrading for the sake of upgrading is bogus, and only serves the wallets of the vendors' VPs. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "...it's leaving me this unpleasant, St. Petersburg, FL damp feeling on my shorts..." -Sridhar

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QL (was: ZX-81 Question)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Merchberger [mailto:zmerch@30below.com] > Not all Basic's are created equal -- I'd still give my left > <ahem> to be > able to run a Basic09-like package [for OS-9] on my other > machines... That > was another very powerful Basic. For a while I used Turbo Basic under MS-DOS. It was an incredible development environment... for a BASIC ... running under MS-DOS... Ok, so it was "passable." Still :) I hear that DEC BASIC is good, too. Both of the above examples are compilers, though, I think. Anyway, the point is that things based on BASIC don't need to be all bad. There is little difference between BASIC and many command languages which are perfectly useable. Now, whether one would write real software in it is another question. > How much do you think it costs Micro$haft to make a new > version of windows, > compared to the number of copies they jam down our throats? Well, I don't know about you, but nobody's ever forced me to buy a copy of windows. As a result, I never have bought a copy of windows ;) All my computers run other stuff, and are much better off for it. Give me CP/M any day. > As as been said many times before, they only charge what the > market will bear. I'm sure that at least some of the people in Apple may have been certain that they had added that much value to the drive. > If Apple got a lot of people to buy them, and folks didn't > complain about > the price, <M$Rant> and Apple didn't stifle competition so > they could jack > up the prices even more </M$Rant> does it really matter what > they charged > vs. what it cost them to build? It would have been a great opportunity for a competing company to produce apple 2 compatible drives. > <going OT> Most car chargers for cell phones cost between $20 > - $35 USD > each retail - they cost the dealers between $1.95 - $2.95 > each, quantity > 10.</going OT> > The beauty of capitalism. <g> It's amazing what you can get for a couple of wires and a cigarette lighter plug. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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AMD am7960

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Scary. News to me. So...how long will it take for the industry to convince the general population that they NEEEEEED 10GB ethernet to their desktops? -Dave On March 26, Francis Bell wrote: > Well you can buy it from Cisco since September 5, 2001: > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/ifaa/6500ggml/ > > > > Dave McGuire wrote: > > On March 26, Richard Erlacher wrote: > > > >>Yeah! Gee! They're running Ethernet at 10GB nowadays ... > >> > > > > Really? Last I heard 10GB ethernet was still in the standardization > > process, and nobody had hardware that was even close to working. > > > > Hell, 1GB ethernet rarely (if ever) is run to capacity.. > > > > -Dave > > > > > > > -- Dave McGuire "...it's leaving me this unpleasant, St. Petersburg, FL damp feeling on my shorts..." -Sridhar

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Blank CMS SCSI boards for Apple 2

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

{ the following was also posted on comp.sys.apple2 -- apologies if you have to read it twice :-) } Hello all, I just won on eBay a lot of blank CMS SCSI cards for the Apple 2. They appear to be production circuit boards, silkscreened, plated, traces run, etc., but NO parts or connectors installed. The following link to eBay gets you there, with a picture of the boards: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2006140386 I suspect that there is a ROM on board, and some long-obsolete SCSI controller chip on board as well, so I hold little hope, but I'd like to turn one or more of these into functional cards. With that goal in mind, here are some questions: - Does anyone have a ROM that they could make me a HEX dump of? I have no idea what revision board this is, unfortunately... - Can someone help me ID the board revision from part placement, etc.? - Would anyone be willing to take detailed digital pictures of their board and send them to me, so I can try to re-create it? - Would anyone be willing to loan me their board for a week or two so I can analyse it? Anyone who can help me with this will be sent one of these boards, if they desire... Well, let me say the first 20 or so to help get a board ... I've only got 25! :-) Thanks! Rich B. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Unix disk images and archiving

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 08:00:26 -0400 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> > Subject: Unix disk images and archiving > Sender: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > I've gotten my '040 Cube's optical drive functioning again and now I > want to take the original distribution optical disks for various > versions of NeXTstep and make bootable copies of them on more usable > media, preferably for storage as disk images and as bootable volumes on > another SCSI disk. I was thinking of using another magneto-optical > drive, such as my Pinnacle Micro Sierra 1.3GB. I've got enough > optical disks to do this and the drive is an external MO. Is this > doable? The images will have to contend with up to 256MB of data and > must be fully writable to a new physical disk, including all boot > information. > > My '040 Cube is running NeXTstep 3.3 with CAPer, so if I made > images I could easily move them on to my main Mac for storage. The > distribution disks in question have NS 0.9, 1.0, 1.0a, 2.0, 2.1, and > 3.0, as well as a non-bootable disk of 3.2. They've been verified as > readable and still containing the OS (on my '040 Cube after being > locked). Due to the unknown quality of the OD in my '030 Cube I > really don't want to try and boot one on it and I'd like to get them > to another media before I lose the ability to > read them altogether. As I recall from experience upgrading a Cube from a 68030 to a 68040 CPU board, NS 1.0a and earlier would not boot on the 68040. They were written without knowledge of the future differences between a 68040 and a 68030, which are significant at the system stack level. Just something to think about. This does not prevent user-level software from running, just system stuff. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

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[comp.sys.transputer] Free Transputer gear to a good home...

by jbdigriz＠dragonsweb.org

I would say this stuff is worth rescuing...Contact David Clarke by phone if interested. On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 04:31:22 -0500, David Clarke wrote: > Dear Readers, > > AT&T Labs Cambridge (once known as Olivetti Research) will close at the > end of April - barring a miracle. > > We have a number of B004 and B008 development boards, TRAMs and about 20 > individual transputers in PGA packages. As far as I know it is all in > working order, though it is a while since any of it was used. > > There is also a vintage 486 PC which has ISA slots suitable for the dev. > boards, but no monitor. > > I believe that we could donate it all to a researcher who was prepared > to collect it from our Lab in Cambridge (England). > > It is with great regret that I post this message, but if someone does > not take the stuff, it is likely to end up in the crusher. > > Which would be a pity. > > David Clarke > AT&T Labs Cambridge > +44 (0) 1223 343316 > > p.s. I'd prefer a phone call - email is ok but there is no point in > posting a reply to this newsgoup as I won't read it.

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QL (was: ZX-81 Question)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > -----Original Message----- > > From: Douglas Quebbeman [mailto:dhquebbeman@theestopinalgroup.com] > > > > I hear that DEC BASIC is good, too. > > > > Both of the above examples are compilers, though, I think. > > > While it's possible that DEC BASIC was an early adopter > > of incremental compilation techniques, I don't think so... > > I'm pretty sure DEC BASIC is a simple interpreter. I guess > > I should look at the source... > > Could be. Not having used DEC BASIC, myself, I'm not sure :) > > I am sure that Turbo Basic was a compiler. Well, at least as much as Turbo Pascal was... -dq

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QL (was: ZX-81 Question)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> At 04:05 PM 3/25/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > >While it's possible that DEC BASIC was an early adopter > >of incremental compilation techniques, I don't think so... > >I'm pretty sure DEC BASIC is a simple interpreter. I guess > >I should look at the source... > > If you're talking about DEC BASIC as implement on > VMS, you are wrong: What's a VMS? Is that a computer? I was talking about the DEC BASIC that made BASIC famous, the BASIC from TOPS-10 and TOPS-20 on the DECsystem-10. > VAX BASIC V3.8-000 Looks like some kind of vacuum cleaner to me...

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AMD am7960

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 26, Richard Erlacher wrote: > Yeah! Gee! They're running Ethernet at 10GB nowadays ... Really? Last I heard 10GB ethernet was still in the standardization process, and nobody had hardware that was even close to working. Hell, 1GB ethernet rarely (if ever) is run to capacity.. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "...it's leaving me this unpleasant, St. Petersburg, FL damp feeling on my shorts..." -Sridhar

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by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Really? Last I heard 10GB ethernet was still in the standardization >process, and nobody had hardware that was even close to working. Hardware does exist - just you can't afford it (and it's probably not going to be available on the hobbyist market for a little while yet). Even the optics are hellishly expensive! > Hell, 1GB ethernet rarely (if ever) is run to capacity.. Well it's certainly run to capacity in the test labs. Exactly what customers fo with them is up to them! 100MB to the desktop seems to work well enough for me. Especially since the link out of the building is just a T1 ... Antonio

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No subject

by vcf＠siconic.com

Can someone help Hans-Werner? -- From: Hans-Werner.Ruch(a)t-online.de (Hans-Werner Ruch) Subject: Intel iUP-201: Can you please help me? Date sent: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 16:29:59 +0100 Hi, I recently got one of the ancient Intel Eprom Programmer iUP-201 together with a FAST27/K adaptor and RS-232 cable. It still works fine (operated manually). Now my idea is to connect the iUP to a PC to transfer data to/from it, but unfortunately I haven't got any documentation and so I neither know the necessary RS-232 parameters (baudrate, kind of parity, no. of stop bits), nor the commands (strings/bytes?) the iUP awaits. If you have some information or documentation on this subject, I would really appreciate if you could send it to me. Hints are also welcome. -- Regards, Hans-Werner Ruch __________________________________________________ Drlinger Str. 5 b 82229 Seefeld Germany Fax +49-(0)8152-980027 -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Looking for Fujitsu/HAL GP7000F memory

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 10:05:42 -0800 (PST) > From: Jeffrey Katcher <jmkatcher(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Looking for Fujitsu/HAL GP7000F memory > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Sender: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Obsolete SPARC/Solaris server purchased on eBay.=20 > Takes some sort of SIMM/DIMM but not specified > anywhere. I know it's not exactly a historic machine, > though it is awfully nice as a home computer. > > Is anyone familiar with these beasts? Does this have a Sun model number? Have you looked at the Sun Hardware Reference? < www.sunhelp.org/faq/sunref1.html > carl

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Unix disk images and archiving

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 05:12:50 -0500 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > From: Jeff Hellige <jhellige(a)earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: Unix disk images and archiving > Sender: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > >I think you will have to write a disktab entry for the MO drive. I had > >to add one for the Jaz. NS3.3 is pretty good at determining disk > >geometry if the drive supports the sense command. Since PM bit the > >dust, I'm not sure if there is much documentation out there about the MO > >drive. Also keep in mind that the NeXT cube SCSI implementation is > >pretty primitive. > > Thanks James...I'll try the disktab from your other message. > > >One question, does the MO drive show up in the Workspace browser when > >you insert a disk? I can't format a Jaz cart from the command prompt > >with disk, but I can by selecting it in the GUi and then selecting Disk > >Initialize....I don't know why. > > Yes, the DOS and Mac formatted disks mount automatically when > the disks are inserted and on one it doesn't recognize it asks if I > want to initialize. It fails initialization from the Workspace just > as it did from the shell. I wasn't sure if NS supported > 512bytes/sector or not on the MO. > > I'll let you know how the disktab works. For what it's worth, I have used 3.5" MO disks on my NeXTs for many years. They have 512 bytes/sector. I did have to write a disktab entry, although the values in the table do not at all resemble the true disk geometry. (1 head, 25 sectors, 10000 tracks approx.) Just keep the product of heads * sectors * tracks less than the actual number of sectors on the disk. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

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Emulex UC08 ( Qbus SCSI controller )

by stanus＠multitel.be

Hi, I have a old Vax 3400 computer with an Emulex UC08 in it, but I dont'have any manuel, any UC08 original scsi cables, neither the pin out of the Emuler UC08 front connector Can anybody help ? Thanks Etienne Stanus Multitel ASBL 1 Avenue Nicolas Copernic 7000 Mons Belgium etienne.stanus(a)ieee.org

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Unix disk images and archiving

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 12:09:06 -0600 > From: "James L. Rice" <jrice(a)texoma.net> > Subject: Re: Unix disk images and archiving > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Organization: Megaeasy Computer Solutions > > Jeff, after I emailed you my answer last night, I was thinking that you > should be able to just "dd" the images to a files: > > dd if=/dev/<insert device here> of=/tmp/name-of-image-file.here > > I create floppy images by: > > dd if=/dev/rfd0b of=/tmp/3.3_Mot_Boot_Disk.floppyimage > > You should be able to do the same for the OD images. It takes about 5 > minutes to create a floppyimage (1.44mb) on my Turbo Slab, so the > process won't be fast on a whole 256mb OD. You may have to create a > disktab entry for the Pinnacle Micro Optical Drive, but I've got a Jaz > and a Zip working on my Slab, so I'm sure it's very doable. Presumably using partition "h" which is the whole disk, including the "front porch" area where the bootstrap and partition table live. When I did something analogous to this to save my old NeXT OD's, I did not try to preserve the bootstrap etc. Just copied the whole file system to a DAT tape using GNUtar, then extracted it on a SparcStation, and built and burned an ISO CDrom. The result was readable on the NeXT, but of course not bootable. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

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DEC Hardware design available

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Just a note that <http://www.alibris.com/home.cfm> lists two copies of Computer Design: A DEC View ... for sale. One is $34 and one is $57. That's cheaper than Ebay by a long shot. --Chuck

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ancient terminals, was: Re: ZX-81 Question

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On 2002.03.26 12:55 Hans Franke wrote: > > > This construction reminded me of > > 1970 style 'inteligent' terminals where screen buffer was more like a > > code of some sort to be executed by the diplay processor which was a > > micro code engine itself. > > And that reminds me of the Tektronix ASCII Terminal I rescued lately. > Characters are drawn only once and the analog "memory" display tube > keeps the dots fluoresceing. No screen refresh! This is one of the > Terminals where you can see that Tektronix is well known for > oscilloscopes... This was Tek's "Storage Tube" technology... or something like that. We had a o-scope at school which used it... never got to work with the computer displays that had it, tho... -dq

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Looking for Fujitsu/HAL GP7000F memory

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey Katcher [mailto:jmkatcher@yahoo.com] > Is anyone familiar with these beasts? Well, I can't tell you what sort of RAM it uses. I can say that I think it's ultrasparc, if it's the HAL I'm thinking of. They used to have an advertisement along the lines of "Still using a 32-bit workstation? Why be normal?" That might give you some idea of time-frame. They were very nice for SPARCs in their day. They were also supposed to be somewhat more modular than their SUN counterparts. I believe Unix Review did at least one article on them. I think they've stopped printing Unix Review now, but that a web publication still exists. (Could be wrong there...) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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QL-Quality (Was: ZX-81 Question)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: John Honniball [mailto:coredump@gifford.co.uk] > The ICL One Per Desk! The name tells you just how many they thought > they'd sell. I have one, bought at a junk shop in Bath, and here's > a (not very good) photo: > http://www.gifford.co.uk/~coredump/opd.htm > Note the phone handset on the left-hand side and the two phone cords. It looks like an Atari 800 with a telephone built in. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Looking for Fujitsu/HAL GP7000F memory

by jmkatcher＠yahoo.com

Obsolete SPARC/Solaris server purchased on eBay. Takes some sort of SIMM/DIMM but not specified anywhere. I know it's not exactly a historic machine, though it is awfully nice as a home computer. Is anyone familiar with these beasts? Many thanks in advance, Jeff Katcher jmkatcher(a)yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/

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Turbo BASIC (was Re: QL (was: ZX-81 Question))

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Glen Goodwin [mailto:acme_ent@bellsouth.net] > > For a while I used Turbo Basic under MS-DOS. It was an > > incredible development environment... for a BASIC ... running > > under MS-DOS... Ok, so it was "passable." Still :) > No, it was incredible. Removing the constraints of using I wouldn't go that far. It was still a BASIC ;) I like my HLLs to have _some_ structure. > line numbers was > a huge improvement on its own. Allowing variables local to a > function or > procedure was a nice bonus as well. Right on both counts, there. > Turbo BASIC also has an interpretive mode. I vaguely remember this, actually. It's been a while, as I said. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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My VMS Conundrums... [long - multiple replies]

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Merchberger [mailto:zmerch@30below.com] > Then I get something to the effect of (it's been a long time): Unknown > Terminal. Well, a: SET TERM/DEV=vt100 (I think) will get you past that, but I don't know whether the console will support enough VT escapes to run TPU. Maybe. :) Try it and see. Generally the graphics subsystems on VAXen are only used for running a windowing system. If you wanted to run DECWindows, it's a different story. > It was easier getting a full-screen text editor running on my > CoCo, for > crimeny sakes... [[and it has a real OS, to... ;-) ]] Well, if your CoCo runs OS9, I'll agree with that last part. Still, it shouldn't be such a problem on your VAX. > be, if a little wordy (SET DEFAULT [000000] versus cd / ... > thank god I top > out at 110wpm... ;-) but I really wish it would have been a Actually that's not as bad as it seems. First off, you can abbreviate default to "DEF", and [000000] to [0,0] Next, you generally don't need to change to the root directory, because there's not much there aside from the index file (which it's usually bad to manipulate by hand ;) VMS also will assume that if you SET DEF [FOO] FOO is in the root directory. Otherwise it wants you to prepend a directory separator, and say [.FOO] Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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ancient terminals, was: Re: ZX-81 Question

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/26/02 9:20:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de writes: > And that reminds me of the Tektronix ASCII Terminal I rescued lately. > Characters are drawn only once and the analog "memory" display tube > keeps the dots fluoresceing. No screen refresh! This is one of the > Terminals where you can see that Tektronix is well known for > oscilloscopes... > What model of Tek terminal? Paxton Astoria, OR

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RSX-11 Documentation available

by tim.myers＠protasis.co.uk

I've been made aware of a set of RSX-11 documentation that's being disposed of in the building where I work. This wil be disposed at the end of Wednesday 27th, so if anyone wants it, please mail me directly now! I've got no where to store this long-term, but can hold it for a week or two. There will be no cost for this, but you will have to pay for shipping (I can FedEx internationally), or collect from Chester, UK. There are 9 rather large 3-ring binders, so shipping to the US may be prohibitive. --- Tim Myers, Protasis UK Ltd., Cheshire Innovation Park, PO Box 1, Chester, CH1 3SH. Tel : +44 151 355 4590 DDI : +44 151 355 4931 Fax : +44 151 355 4942

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MiniMINC

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>Actually there was a dual microm that would give the PDT11/150 >EIS and FIS... *actually* -- the dual microm simply combines the 3007 and 3010 microm chips into one dual carrier, which frees up a slot for the EIS/FIS chip... you still need the EIS/FIS chip, however. I've got a couple of PDT-11/150s with the mod. There was a version of space invaders for a VT100 on RT-11 which required EIS/FIS for some reason. For quite a while we used the EIS/FIS emulator driver (I think it was from Ian Hammond), at least until we found a supply for dual microms and EIS/FIS chips. (This was back in the days when the PDT-11/150 was sold to DEC employees and we had a broad-spectrum mailing list to discuss it -- I was a moderator for it) Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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Heathkit et-3100

by mhstein＠canada.com

http://bama.sbc.edu/heath.htm or http://www.circuitarchive.co.uk/heath.htm What else do ya need? I have one of these somewhere; not much to it... mike ----------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 08:36:33 +0200 From: John Franklin <John.Franklin(a)sita.co.za> Subject: Heathkit et-3100 can anyone help. I am looking for manuals, diagrams etc or any info on the Heathkit ET-3100

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QL (was: ZX-81 Question)

by Huw.Davies＠kerberos.davies.net.au

At 04:05 PM 25/03/2002 -0500, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > For a while I used Turbo Basic under MS-DOS. It was an > > incredible development environment... for a BASIC ... running > > under MS-DOS... Ok, so it was "passable." Still :) > > > > I hear that DEC BASIC is good, too. > > > > Both of the above examples are compilers, though, I think. > >While it's possible that DEC BASIC was an early adopter >of incremental compilation techniques, I don't think so... >I'm pretty sure DEC BASIC is a simple interpreter. I guess >I should look at the source... It depends on which DEC BASIC. VAX BASIC was both an interpreter and a compiler. I tended to use the compiler - earned a living once programming a student records system in VAX BASIC, FMS and Indexed Sequential files. Huw Davies | e-mail: Huw.Davies(a)kerberos.davies.net.au | "If God had wanted soccer played in the | air, the sky would be painted green"

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DEC Hardware design available

by aek＠spies.com

> Just a note that <http://www.alibris.com/home.cfm> lists two copies of > Computer Design: A DEC View ... for sale. One is $34 and one is $57. That's > cheaper than Ebay by a long shot. I have one up for $49 with no bids right now. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2011505056

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Source code for 805x line-by-line assembler?

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> 805x processors cannot (without external hardware) write to program memory, so any > line assembler would be dependant on some (common) hardware tricks to write to > program space. Although I keep some Intel parts around, I prefer the Dallas Semiconductor DS5000 familiy, which allows software to partition its 64k memory between code space and data space. However, I'll grant that this qualifies under your definition of "hardware tricks", even though it's not quite what you had in mind. Regards, -dq

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My VMS Conundrums... [long - multiple replies]

by zmerch＠30below.com

Rumor has it that pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com may have mentioned these words: >On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Roger Merchberger wrote: > >> I've tried 'help' but there are a lot of things that *just* *won't* *run* >> whatsoever, including [but not limited to] every text editor I've tried, >> because I can't figure out how to get the terminal screen configured... >> which (of course, with my luck) 'help' either 1) doesn't tell me, or 2) has >> obfuscated it *so* badly that I won't have a chance in Hades of ever >> finding it there... > >If you have an ANSI terminal (or a vtXXX) hooked up to it, all you need to >do is 'set term/ansi'. If you're using a framebuffer monitor, I think >you're outa luck, both myself and a guy I know that worked for DEC either >can't figure it out or have deemed it impossible to do ANSI emulation on >those things (or anything useful). My suggestion is to try and get it to >work with a text-terminal first. Well, I've rescued a Wyse sumthinorother terminal, unknown condition but with an RJ-11 interface for the keyboard, and over the winter, I've finally found an RJ11-based Wyse keyboard... but with the move, I've not had time to actually test it... let alone I don't have a serial adapter that will work for it (or at least I'm not sure...) so that's something else I'd have to do... However, up until now I didn't have a terminal to use -- I kinda thought that a 2Mbyte 8-plane grafix framebuffer would have been good enough... :-/ >Second, once you install DecWindows (http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/), >it should auto-magically start up OR you can start it using a DCL script >called 'DECW$STARTUP.COM' or something similar. It should be available >under the 'SYS$MANAGER:' drive-alias. The URL above is a GREAT reference >to (Open)VMS - I've been able to figure out just about any problem with >those docs and this list. (thanks guys!) Thanks for the tip... I'll check it out once the system is set up again (prolly in a couple of months, if I'm lucky...) >Nice setup, makes my VAXstation 3200 look puny. :( Just promise to never >stop running VMS on it. With people like Gunther running Ultrix or NetBSD >on it ( <cough> sick bastards <cough> ;) the world needs as many VMS >users as it can get to stay in sync. Well, I also have one of the latest versions of Ultrix for it, and I had installed it to see what it was like... and I found it slow - but it did install *very* easily (unlike my trials & tribulations with VMS...) ============= and ============== Rumor has it that Carlini, Antonio may have mentioned these words: > What terminal do you have connected? > If it's one of the VT series, try: > $ SET TERMINAL/INQUIRE > and don't type anything until the $ prompt > comes back I don't have a terminal, but I'll try this when I get the system set up again - but I tried everything in the "help set terminal" and "set terminal xxxxx" most everything, and I couldn't get the framebuffer to recognize anything useful to get an editor working... ============ and ================== Rumor has it that Geoff Roberts may have mentioned these words: >> >> The only classic machine I can't get to print is my MicroVAX 3100/m38 - >> >and >> >> that's only because I can't get it to talk TCP/IP... :-( <sniff> >> > >> >Er, why not? What version of VMS? VMS 7.1... >IIRC, the VMS docs are viewable online at DEC^H^H^HCompaq's web site >somewhere. As others has stated, too... but it's tough to take those into the 'loo' for a little 'light reading...' ;-) >HELP SET TERMINAL should work, if you use a VT term into the console port. I tried to do that 'till I was blue in the face (at *least* 16 hours worth) -- it just doesn't work with a framebuffer... :-( >Hmmm, I managed to get a Vax 6310 going when I didn't have any idea what VMS >was, >so I'm sure you can do this.. Working, yes... working usefully... alas, no. :-( >EVE or just plain EDIT should work, again from a terminal. If the graphic >display working at all? Sure, the display is working great - until you try to start a text editor. Then I get something to the effect of (it's been a long time): Unknown Terminal. >> 2Meg 8-plane grafix buffer [this is >> the biotsch that won't config right for the terminal settings, hence no >> text editors] 17" display, keyboard, mouse [of course] > >?? I didn't think the video device need to be configured. VMS should take >care of that, and it should 'just work'. It 'just works' to display text -- lots of it (110+ columns at 58 lines or somesuch - looks bitchin' on the 17" monitor that it came with!) And it works great in Ultrix. Just won't let VMS run a damn text editor... :-( >Are you sure the monitor and graphic buffer are compatible? Error message? >Anything on the display? I pieced together 2 3100's to get the right mix of memory, hard drives, framebuffer & monitor, but the framebuffer & monitor were a matched pair; I just raided the second box for mem/HD. >Shouldn't be THAT hard.....Did you install VMS, or was it there already? I installed it myself - I think it took 2 tries, but once I got the hang of it it wasn't unusually difficult... it's trying to make it do something without a text editor afterwords that's been the PITA... ============== and ==================== Rumor has it that Eric Dittman may have mentioned these words: >> HELP SET TERMINAL should work, if you use a VT term into the console port. > >HELP doesn't require a VTxxx terminal. Yea, but the "SET TERMINAL" part does... I've used SET TERMINAL this, that & the other, to no avail... >> EVE or just plain EDIT should work, again from a terminal. If the graphic >> display working at all? > >Use EDIT/EDT in line mode. <Sarcasm> Holy-my-goodness... Why not just use EDLIN? </Sarcasm> <Really-Rude-Sarcasm> I've spent more than 6 years on this list, and all I hear is VAX this... VMS that... Ya Wanna Real System? VAX is the Only Way... VMS is the *only* Real OS... So I *finally* got one for myself - and I have to use a _line_ _editor_??? It was easier getting a full-screen text editor running on my CoCo, for crimeny sakes... [[and it has a real OS, to... ;-) ]] </Really-Rude-Sarcasm> The sarcasm is just letting off a little steam - I'm joking, really! Honestly, the hardware's great - and I'm sure VMS is all it's cracked up to be, if a little wordy (SET DEFAULT [000000] versus cd / ... thank god I top out at 110wpm... ;-) but I really wish it would have been a little easier to get working without having to hang a termainal off of it... And to be perfectly honest, at first all I really wanted to do with it: Write & run BASIC programs! I'd figured *hopefully* the BASIC was much more powerful than anything in the PeeCee world, and I wanted something faster than my CoCos... ... And learn VMS, in the process. >> > [1] Well, OK - to be technical, the thing runs *great* - I just can't *do* >> > a frelling thing with it... > >Someone is a "Farscape" fan. I wondered if anyone would pick up on that... ;-) As always, I've appreciated any & all advice that comes from the list, but the framebuffer/terminal issues seem like they're a rather tough nut to crack. To be honest, I think I'm going to mothball the VAX/VMS combo for now, and try installing VMS on my wife's retired DEC 3000/300 machine. It's only got 64M RAM, but if at least I can get DECWindows to install right off on the machine, it might give me a better "taste" of VMS to tinker with before I dive headlong into the VAX again... But I'm not giving up! ;-) Laterz, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig. If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

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Docs for WellFleet AFN model 1515

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I don't think it's quite on-topic, but does anyone have docs for this? A WellFleet model 1515 Access Feeder Node. Looks like a modem server or something. Nortel swallowed Baystack which swallowed Wellfleet.... Nothing online for documentation. Main question is: The port marked "Console" is a DE9 *female*. No keyboard port, so I expect it's a serial port, but I've never seen a female DE9 serial. Will a gender swap work, or do I need pinout adapter? When your friends find out you collect "junk", they bring you the most amazing stuff. Doc

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DEC PROFESSIONAL article needed

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Zane H. Healy [mailto:healyzh@aracnet.com] > This is needed as part of their work on invalidating Patent 6,185,681 > Here is the link about it from /. > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24557.html > "A previously unknown Californian firm which has obtained a patent for > application-independent file encryption is seeking to enforce > licensing from > other companies in the security industry. " Um... Has anyone tried contacting Glenn? IIRC, he reads comp.os.vms, and maybe he kept a copy... Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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DEC Hardware design available

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> I've been looking for this book for a while- > the last few copies on ebay all went over 50$, > so Al's price isn't out of order.. it seems to > be the going rate. It is THE DEC book to have ;) Worse, it's one of the few I don't have! :^( Zane

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Bernie Klatt - you out there?

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

... or more to the point, does anyone know or have a copy of the famous (or should that be 'infamous') 8BBS software? I've been considering a bit of a BBS retrospective, and thought having an '8 running a BBS would be an interesting addition. -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw

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Heathkit et-3100

by John.Franklin＠sita.co.za

can anyone help. I am looking for manuals, diagrams etc or any info on the Heathkit ET-3100

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Apple 3.5" controller card

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, I recently received an Apple-branded 3.5" floppy drive controller card. After doing a bit of web research, I found out it was a "LIRON" card, and NOT a SuperDrive card. I also found out that it will only work with a specific type of 3.5" drive: the UniDisk. I don't have a UniDisk, so the next logical questions are: - Does anyone have a UniDisk 3.5" drive that they's be willing to swap/dump/sell? Yes, I did see a couple on eBay, but I'd rather avoid paying $40-$50 for one.... - If I do not find a UniDisk, would anyone want this? What would you trade for it? I have no docs, and it is the card/cable only. If I do not find a UniDisk, then it is untested, except to say that I put it in an Apple IIe, with no drive connected, and it did NOT smoke :-) Thanks! Rich B. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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QL (was: ZX-81 Question)

by zaft＠azstarnet.com

At 04:05 PM 3/25/2002 -0500, you wrote: >While it's possible that DEC BASIC was an early adopter >of incremental compilation techniques, I don't think so... >I'm pretty sure DEC BASIC is a simple interpreter. I guess >I should look at the source... If you're talking about DEC BASIC as implement on VMS, you are wrong: [Monica] $ basic hello.bas [Monica] $ link hello [Monica] $ run hello Hello, world. [Monica] $ [Monica] $ basic VAX BASIC V3.8-000 Ready It's an interpreter AND a compiler. (this is OpenVMS 7.2). GZ

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QL (was: ZX-81 Question)

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>While it's possible that DEC BASIC was an early adopter >of incremental compilation techniques, I don't think so... >I'm pretty sure DEC BASIC is a simple interpreter. I guess I don't know which platform/OS you are considering, but under OpenVMS, DEC BASIC is both a compiler and an interpreter. >I should look at the source... Not OpenVMS then ... Antonio

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QL (was: ZX-81 Question)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Douglas Quebbeman [mailto:dhquebbeman@theestopinalgroup.com] > > I hear that DEC BASIC is good, too. > > Both of the above examples are compilers, though, I think. > While it's possible that DEC BASIC was an early adopter > of incremental compilation techniques, I don't think so... > I'm pretty sure DEC BASIC is a simple interpreter. I guess > I should look at the source... Could be. Not having used DEC BASIC, myself, I'm not sure :) I am sure that Turbo Basic was a compiler. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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QL (was: ZX-81 Question)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> For a while I used Turbo Basic under MS-DOS. It was an > incredible development environment... for a BASIC ... running > under MS-DOS... Ok, so it was "passable." Still :) > > I hear that DEC BASIC is good, too. > > Both of the above examples are compilers, though, I think. While it's possible that DEC BASIC was an early adopter of incremental compilation techniques, I don't think so... I'm pretty sure DEC BASIC is a simple interpreter. I guess I should look at the source... -dq

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20" SGI/Philips FC20AS monitor

by rumi_ml＠rtfm.hu

Hello, i recently got an old (1992) 20" monitor of type SGI/Philips FC20AS. as far as i was able to find out it is probably a 64kHz fixed frequency model. does anyone have more information on this critter? maybe even a Modeline or something like that? thanks in advance! regards, Szabolcs Rumim

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Cook Race

by rochster＠hotmail.com

I'm looking for the Schematics or the pinouts to a Cook Race arcade game. I've just bought the two PCB with no information on how to connect it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time. Roch Henry Henry Amusements Ottawa, CanadaGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

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Semi-OT: PMac 6100 DOS

by Marion.Bates＠dartmouth.edu

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Unix disk images and archiving

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Hellige [mailto:jhellige@earthlink.net] > My '040 Cube is running NeXTstep 3.3 with CAPer, so if I made > images I could easily move them on to my main Mac for storage. The > distribution disks in question have NS 0.9, 1.0, 1.0a, 2.0, 2.1, and > 3.0, as well as a non-bootable disk of 3.2. They've been verified as > readable and still containing the OS (on my '040 Cube after being > locked). Due to the unknown quality of the OD in my '030 Cube I > really don't want to try and boot one on it and I'd like to get them > to another media before I lose the ability to > read them altogether. Well, after reading your post two or three times, and not finding a question in it, I'm going to try to answer anyway. :) I'll assume the questing is something like: "How on earth do I make a copies of the distribution disks onto different media?" Anyway, what I would do is to make an image, using dd, of one of the disks, and then try to put it on the external drive. See if you can boot it from there, and then read the image back from the external drive and make sure it hasn't changed. If that works, repeat the process. I would also try burning the image onto cd with cdrecord (for instance), if it's possible. That may just turn out to be another option. The added bonus here is that CDs are common as dirt. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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ZX81 and 6116

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> I guess I'm having a "senior moment" but I don't remember the 4118 at all, Excuse the typo, this should read "4116." Glen 0/0

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ZX81 and 6116

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> > > Pete, what modifications to the board are required in order to use a > 6116? > > I don't have either the service manual or my ZX81 handy, so I can't check, > but as far as I remember, just remove the 4118 and replace with a 6116. I'll check it out. > There might be a wire link to change (if so, it's obvious) but I don't > remember having to do that. There are no links on the board for different memory configurations. > It is good practice to fit a socket, though. I always do when I replace an unsocketed IC on a ZX81. > A few ZX81's had a pair of 2114's instead of the normal 4118, which were > in short supply at one time, but the same principle applies (the PCB is the > same). I read that using the 2114s saved Uncle Sir Clive 25p per unit. I've also noticed that on the earlier boards all the ICs were socketed, but the later ones were spotty, socket-wise. Typical Sinclair chintziness. Glen 0/0

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New hard drive in an Indigo2

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Doc --- Well, it does sort of apply here. It was "created" about 15 years ago... And I'm sure other lurkers would benefit from the links too... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash > ---------- > From: Doc > > Oops! That was supposed to be off-list. > > Never mind.... > > On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Doc wrote: > > > On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > > > > Doc - As someone who never played with RAID before, can you provide an > > > example setup, or two? > > > > David, > > I'm cleaning out my Inbox, and I couldn't remember if I saved this > > because I answered, or because I was going to.... > > Anyway, since I probably didn't, here are a couple links to clearer > > info than I can give: > > > > Quick&Dirty overview: > > http://www.uni-mainz.de/~neuffer/scsi/what_is_raid.html > > > > More detailed: > > http://www.amsstorage.com/html/raid_overview.html > > > > RAID management is more of an art than a skill-set. The number and > > range of variables is staggering. And I'm a rank amateur.... > > > > Doc

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Symbolics 3620 screen issues

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > > console monitors are very special and very strange things. > Mono screen, > > some audio stuff in it, keyboard and mouse controller, ... and it is > > connected to the machine with a single cable. They are completely > > different from everything else on the world. > That, actually, doesn't mean a darn thing... > Consider the portrait monitor on my PERQ 2T1. It's got 3 > physical cables > back the host, which actually form 1 'logical cable' -- video > (no syncs) > : BNC, power : 3 pin DIN, everything else (syncs, > keyboard/tablet power > and signals, audio, etc) : DA15. IIRC, the NeXT mono monitors, which have everything (which I suggest in this context to mean sound, video, mouse, keyboard) connected to the monitor through a single 19 pin cable, aren't otherwise too weird at all... :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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DCA IRMA-III convertible 3270 interface

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: r. 'bear' stricklin [mailto:red@bears.org] > On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Dave McGuire wrote: > > He's still crashing on my couch...I think the whoe gulf > coast thing is > > getting to his brain. Clean air and...umm...well, spring break, > > beach, bikinis that are about this --> <-- big, you kno... ;) > So now I'm sitting here in my toner-stained pants, sucking on a bloody > knuckle, and I only want to know one thing. > Where the @*(*& did I go wrong? Well, nowhere necessarily. Bloody knuckles are part of the hobby, and I suppose toner-stains might be too. Bikinis are part of a different hobby. :) There's nothing which prevents you from taking another hobby up, you'll just have to decide how to spend your time. I have been doing less computer stuff recently, for instance, in favor of musical composition. Nothing to do with bikinis, mind you, but it could if I get famous. ;) ... on the other hand, maybe at some point in the future, computers will be considered "sexy." Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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TSX-PLUS (Was MicroPDP 11/73)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jerome H. Fine [mailto:jhfinepw4z@compsys.to] > If a couple of others all inquire (in addition to Turnbull and Davis), > I will inquire again. Well, I've never used TSX-11, but TSX-32 is interesting, and my PDP still has no useable system on it. :) ... so count me in. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Looking for 8M (4M?) 72 pin parity for old Indigo

by claudew＠videotron.ca

Hi I am looking for 72 pin true parity simms to stick in an old indigo that does seem to digest non-parity or EDO simms. Claude http://computer_collector.tripod.com

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TSX-PLUS (Was MicroPDP 11/73)

by GOOI＠oce.nl

I did also show my interest in TSX-Plus, and with this e-mail renew that interest. I have the TSX-Plus documentation for version 5 and a bit more. I scanned all of a binder of S&H that I have at 600 dpi and it is 200 Mb of TIFF files. The binder contains: - System Manager's Guide - TSX-Plus version 5.1 and 5.1C release notes - TSX-Plus version 6.0, 6.01, 6.2, 6.3 and 6.31 release notes - System Manager's Guide version 5 (14 files, total 37.4 Mb) (contents, introduction, chapters 1-9, appendix A, B and index) - Installation Guide version 5 (10 files, total 20.5 Mb) (contents, introduction, chapters 1-5, appendix A, B and index) - TSX-Plus Reference manual 5th edition, 1985 But, because of copyrights with S&H I can not offer this CD-ROM to an ftp site for download. When S&H makes TSX-Plus available, the documentation will be available. - Henk.

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ZX81 and 6116

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Mar 23, 12:58, Dave McGuire wrote: > On March 23, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > Zilog made a "quasi-static RAM" 4K x 8, called Z8132, but it's > > 28-pin. > > I think that's the Z6132...interesting chip... Oops, typo. Yes, it's a 6132. I still have a few. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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New hard drive in an Indigo2

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Doc > > On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Christopher Smith wrote: > > > Anyway, shouldn't a decent RAID allow you to select the mode > > so that it only does striping ? > > Didn't I say "reliable"? Even RAID 0, plain striping, carries a > certain overhead in drivespace. The big problem is that with simple > striping you lose everything if you lose anything. RAID is *expensive*, > even if you get your adapter free. Drivespace overhead, tuning slices, > matching drives, power consumption, noise, etc. BIG cost is the > price of drives, for example 5x9G drives vs. 1x36G. > > <My Not-So-Humble Opinion> > A multi-channel adapter or multiple adapters, running JBOD, with > intelligent filesystem groupings, will probably boost your speed as much > as RAID will. (Assuming a single-user general-use Unix desktop.) RAID > can be tuned to big sequential reads or writes, or a lot of small r/w, > but it's damn difficult to get middle-ground or all-around performance. > </My Not-So-Humble Opinion> > > All that said, it's good practice and fun. > > Doc > Doc - As someone who never played with RAID before, can you provide an example setup, or two? --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Free PDP-11/23 system *complete*, in Charlotte, NC

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Email Ron directly if interested. I'd love it, but I cant afford the shipping. 8-( Bill ----- Forwarded message from Ron Williams <rpwilliams(a)conninc.com> ----- From: "Ron Williams" <rpwilliams(a)conninc.com> To: <mrbill(a)pdp11.org> Subject: 11/23 system Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 21:47:47 -0500 do you know anyone who would be interested in PDP11/23, cards, la180 printer, rlo5 disks, etc, dual monitor cad system Design-Grafix software, rx50 diskette drives, all in a rollaround system, all rt-11 manuals, software development manuals, hardware manuals, circuit diagrams, etc, complete vt240, vt320, all in working order. (not new looking, but could be cleaned up) I would like to get rid of this stuff, and preferably not pay for shipping, as you know, this stuff is heavy. It served me well in my work, elect engineering, but as you know... Ron Williams Charlotte, NC ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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IBM 2520 card readers

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

Hey folks, there are a couple of IBM 2420 card read/punches up for auction along with two IBM 3268-2 dot matrix printers, located in Alabama. It's all in one lot, unfortunately. I'm interested in getting ONE of the card readers. Is anyone interested in the other reader and/or the printers? (Think how cool it would be to hook up to your PC running Hercules!) Reply directly if interested, Thanks, Brian =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _| _| _| Brian Knittel / Quarterbyte Systems, Inc. _| _| _| Tel: 1-510-559-7930 Fax: 1-510-525-6889 _| _| _| Email: brian(a)quarterbyte.com _| _| _| http://www.quarterbyte.com

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TSX-PLUS (Was MicroPDP 11/73)

by cdl＠proxima.ucsd.edu

> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 20:50:18 -0500 > From: "Jerome H. Fine" <jhfinepw4z(a)compsys.to> > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: TSX-PLUS (Was MicroPDP 11/73) > Sender: owner-classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > > Jerome Fine replies: > > I DID inquire from S&H as to the possibility of a TSX-PLUS hobby > license. Basically the answer was that they were waiting to see what > Mentec would do - if anything - and in particular the ACTUAL wording > of any updated RT-11 license from Mentec. > > In any case, since there were so few inquiries for TSX-PLUS and > I was and am still so busy, I dropped the ball. But until Mentec > makes the more reasonable license available, it seems that S&H > wants to just wait and see. > > If a couple of others all inquire (in addition to Turnbull and Davis), > I will inquire again. Yes I'm still interested in TSX. I suppose I have a license for it at work, but I have more better PDP11 computers at home these days. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

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TSX-PLUS (Was MicroPDP 11/73)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 4, ie ages ago, at 23:40, Jerome Fine wrote: > >Pete Turnbull wrote: > > >On Feb 4, 17:48, Jerome Fine wrote: > > > (a) As far as I know, there are no hobby versions, as yet, for TSX-PLUS. > > > However, if there is enough interest, perhaps we could inquire. I would > > > certainly be willing to contact S&H to see if they might be interested. > > > Since I was a sort of distributor for S&H at one point and I already have > > > my own license, I would be able to support hobby users. SO!!!! Are > > > there any potential TSX-PLUS hobby users out there who would like > > > to have this software? > > Yes! > ONE! I will inquire if the total reaches FIVE! Didn't anyone else show interest in TSX? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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DEC PROFESSIONAL article needed

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I was contacted via email by someone from PC Dynamics this morning. They're looking for a copy of an article by Glenn Everhart that appeared in the Mid-80's in an issue of the DEC Professional magazine. It deals with cryptodisk software for VMS. This is needed as part of their work on invalidating Patent 6,185,681 Here is the link about it from /. http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/24557.html "A previously unknown Californian firm which has obtained a patent for application-independent file encryption is seeking to enforce licensing from other companies in the security industry. " Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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IBM 3480 bus adaptor (escon?)

by pat＠cart-server.purdueriots.com

Cool. Last I was there, they also had some ESCON cables then. If anyone's interested, I could grab them. -- Pat On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Sridhar the POWERful wrote: > > Cool. That's ESCON. If they were two thinner connectors stacked, it > would be parallel channel. > > Peace... Sridhar > > On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:49:41 -0500 (EST) > > From: pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com > > To: Sridhar the POWERful <vance(a)ikickass.org> > > Subject: Re: IBM 3480 bus adaptor (escon?) > > > > What part of the connector? The end of the 3480 connector looks the same > > except some pins seem to be 'connected' to the connector shell: > > > > _______________________________ > > |+x+x+x+xx+x+ 0 +x+xx+x+x+x+| > > .' / / '. > > | x+x+x++x+x+x O x+x+x++x+x+x | > > ----------------------------------- > > > > x's are 'non-grounded' pics, +'s are 'grounded pins', 0 is a threaded > > hole, O is a non-threaded hole, and the /s are screws > > > > Grounded means that they're sorrounded by the silvery stuff on the > > connector shell. Otherwise, they look exactly like the picture of the > > terminator i gave a URL to originally. If you want a picture still, try > > and be precise about what part of the connector needs clarifying so i have > > a good idea what to take a pic of > > > > On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Sridhar the POWERful wrote: > > > > > > > > It might be ESCON, or it might be Parallel-channel. Take a picture of > > > the connector. > > > > > > Peace... Sridhar > > > > > > On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com wrote: > > > > > > > Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:35:53 -0500 (EST) > > > > From: pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com > > > > Reply-To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > > > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > > > > Subject: IBM 3480 bus adaptor (escon?) > > > > > > > > I need some help with this one from the 'experts'. I know that this is > > > > the adaptor (one of two) from an IBM 3480 A22 controller that connected > > > > the device to its host system. I *think* that it's an ESCON adaptor, but > > > > want some verification on that. Also, does anyone have any interest in > > > > these? If not, one might make it into my 'museum', but the fate of the > > > > other is uncertain. If you have a desire for either or both of these, > > > > contact me off list. > > > > > > > > (Yeah, the 'connector' at the top of the pic is aparently the bus > > > > terminator. And no, I don't need the screw-driver handle identified, I > > > > know what that is ;^) > > > > > > > > http://cart-server.purdueriots.com/escon_adaptor_and_terminator.jpg > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > -- Pat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Goodwill Museum

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Is the museum still open? I tried their web site and got nothing? I hope to be going to Austin soon and wanted to stop by and see it up close. Thanks

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FA: PDP11 Qbus cards CPU and Memory

by fernande＠internet1.net

Hello, I'm selling some extra Qbus cards on Ebay. I know some of you here don't really like Ebay, but hopefully it'll allow me to recoup some money that I've spent unwisely on various computers/parts. Parts that I've never used, weren't what I though they were, etc. For those of you that do use Ebay, please check my auction out. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2012307302 -- Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

23 years, 8 months

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software UART

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> > If you don't mind listings provided as GIF files, here's one URL > http://www.avocetsystems.com/company/articles/magazine/auart.htm Thanks, Dick -- very interesting. Glen 0/0

23 years, 8 months

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Oops (was Re: ZX81 and 6116)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> > That's certainly a horse of a different color. So the objective was to > replace a set of 4116's with a single 6116? That would reduce the available > RAM from 16KB to 2KB. Is that what you wanted? I've *got* to stop answering mail in the dead of night . . . For the record: ZX81s shipped with either a pair of 2114s (1K x 4) or a single 4118 (1K x 8) -- NOT 4116. The schematic states that the PCB would also accept a single 4816 (2K x 8). The TS1000s I have at hand contain a single 2016 (2K x 8). My apologies for the errors. Glen 0/0

23 years, 8 months

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IBM 3480 bus adaptor (escon?)

by pat＠cart-server.purdueriots.com

I need some help with this one from the 'experts'. I know that this is the adaptor (one of two) from an IBM 3480 A22 controller that connected the device to its host system. I *think* that it's an ESCON adaptor, but want some verification on that. Also, does anyone have any interest in these? If not, one might make it into my 'museum', but the fate of the other is uncertain. If you have a desire for either or both of these, contact me off list. (Yeah, the 'connector' at the top of the pic is aparently the bus terminator. And no, I don't need the screw-driver handle identified, I know what that is ;^) http://cart-server.purdueriots.com/escon_adaptor_and_terminator.jpg Thanks! -- Pat

23 years, 8 months

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Apple's A/UX

by mythtech＠mac.com

>It *used* to be on a site in Germany which now seems to be down for the >count. Someone on comp.unix.aux is building a new archive which may shortly >be available; watch that newsgroup. I'll keep an eye on that group... thanks -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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ZX81 software serial port (was Re: ZX81 I/O ports)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Stan Barr <stanb(a)dial.pipex.com> > Hmm...I did my ZX81 serial port in software! It was only used to > transfer data to the host computer, so it was pretty simple... Stan, I would really appreciate it if you would share this solution with me, assuming you still have the code. Thanks, Glen 0/0

23 years, 8 months

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NetPower PeeCee with MIPs R4400 CPU ????

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Is anyone familar with these? I have the MB and cards for one. I also have Windows NT 3.5 and has Visual C++ for it. Joe

23 years, 8 months

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Recent Road Trip pics of stuff avalable PDX

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On March 24, Robert Schaefer wrote: > I believe that may be a SUN-3/180, as the 280 is a rackmount box. Take a > look at > http://www.obsolyte.com/sunPICS/3_280/ to see one. In fact, that may even For the most part, Sun was relatively consistent about their numbering schemes. Here's how they work: For model names of the form "Sun-X/YZ0": X = architecture...2, 3 or 4, 2=68010, 3=68020 or 68030; 4=SPARC Y = processor...1, 2, or 4 for Sun-3; 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 for SPARC Z = VME chassis type...1 or 4 for 3-slot; 5 for 6-slot, 6 for 12-slot deskside, 7 for newer purple 12-slot deskside, 8 for 12-slot rackmount, 9 for newer 16-slot rackmount There are some departures from this numbering scheme (3/110 for example) but it is mostly consistent. Not all combinations were sold by Sun, but most could be built. With the exception of the Sun-2 VME P2 bussing, the VME buses are compatible between all processor and chassis types. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Watch those lateral G's man, St. Petersburg, FL I've got sandwiches in my lap!" -Sridhar

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