- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Apr 15, 14:24, David Woyciesjes wrote: > That's close, but what I'm looking for clips around the rails, not > into the hole, which is round. This looks almost exactly like it, at the > bottom of the page... > "Palnut Multi-Thread U-Nut" > http://www.tt-ec.com/showcase/retaining/palunut.html DEC (and Sun, etc) used something like that but with a real nut welded (?) onto the clip, like the diagrams at the top of http://www.tt-ec.com/showcase/nutbolt/utypenrcat.html I've always known the ones DEC used simply as Tinnerman nuts. The other type used by DEC is like a strip of spring steel wrapped round the nut and then formed into a springy clip that clips round the rails (sorry, can't find a picture). The correct size for rack screws is 10-32 UNF, rather smaller than any of the ones on the PalNut page. > > From: Carl Lowenstein > > > > You would be happier with the type of fastener that uses real machine > > screws rather than the sheet-metal type screws that some racks have. > > There is a nice picture of them on the Tinnerman Web site at > > > > < http://www.tt-ec.com/showcase/nutbolt/nutretcat.html > The picture of a retainer nut (which happens to be made by Tinnerman in this case, but isn't what I'd call a "Tinnerman nut") at the top of that page is of what everyone over here calls a "caged nut". They're used on european racks, which have square holes not round ones; the normal size takes an M6 screw (DEC screwss are 10-32 UNF, which is very similar to M5). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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TTL computing

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Entirely likely, I did get a lot of stuff from MMI over the years and some of the other related companies. I still have and use PALASM and PALASM90. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, April 15, 2002 3:10 PM Subject: Re: TTL computing >It may, in fact be about the same as my old version. I got mine from MMI back >when THEY were the ones pushing FPGA technology. > >Dick > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "ajp166" <ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net> >To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:13 AM >Subject: Re: TTL computing > > >> Xact, and older, much older version. I'd get the version number >> but the termcap file is OTL and I'm working on something else >> right now. That and a few bits provided by Tim olmstead to help >> with simulation. He was the one that got me into using them. >> >> >> Allison >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> >> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >> Date: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:46 PM >> Subject: Re: TTL computing >> >> >> >Do these tools have names, Allison? My old DOS-based tool for FPGA >> >development, from MMI, was called XACT, and that's what was intended for >> the >> >2000-series devices. A later version supported the 3000 series. >> > >> >Which tools do you use for developing both 2000 and 3000-series >> bitstreams? >> > >> >Dick >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "ajp166" <ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net> >> >To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >> >Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 8:28 PM >> >Subject: Re: TTL computing >> > >> > >> >> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Which tools are you referring to, Allison? >> >> >> >> >> >> OLD tools, as in dos based. >> >> >> >> >I've found that the tools I once used with the old (pre-1990) 2064's, >> >> don't >> >> >work with the 3000-series, and, though I have some 3000-series parts >> >> (which, >> >> >back when I bought them, cost about $200 each) I've not figured out a >> >> way to >> >> >program them using the old XACT or the more recent "Foundation" >> >> software. >> >> >They clearly are no longer supported with current software. >> >> >> >> >> >> Neither have I. I also have the Synario package too. They phased out >> >> the tools for the 2064s a long time ago. >> >> >> >I have Synario for the Atmel devices. It's a Windows-based tool based, >> I >> >think, on a tool set originally cooked up by Data I/O. >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >

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list server computer hardware will change

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Hans Franke > > > Would this improve the ~1 hour time it takes for me to see the > > messages that I post to this list? > > I'm not shure if this is originated in the Mailinglist server. > Over here I have some 20 seconds to 3 minutes (a few times up > to 10 minutes). Looks more like your providers infrastructure. > > Gruss > H. > > -- > VCF Europa 3.0 am 27./28. April 2002 in Muenchen > http://www.vcfe.org/ > It probably is Yale's fault, but what makes that hard to believe is the fact the this list is the _only_ e-mail (list or person-to-person) that has such a delay... Oh well, such is technology... :) --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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OS/2 running under VMWare, or other emulator for Windoze

by PasserM＠umkc.edu

VMware stopped supporting OS/2 (it was supported in a 2.x beta) around the time they started selling VMWare bundled with Windows. They claim there's no connection and that support was removed because of lack of demand. Insert conspiracy theory about a deal with Microsoft to get a sweet OEM license deal in return for killing OS/2 support here.

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Motorola EXORterm 155

by celigne＠celigne.freeserve.co.uk

It never ceases to surprise me how many ancient terminals are secreted away at work. On Saturday I found a Motorola EXORterm 155 which had been put out for the skip. There is no keyboard unfortunately, just a ribbon cable protruding from underneath the main body, which is about the size of a VT52. It appears to date from 1980, but I have no clues about how we used it. Google doesn't turn up many references, apart from a 1997 listing of Herr Franke's collection from our archives and a company called RA Ventures, who developed it for Motorola. So, any other info?

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DEC AUI stuff (was re: A2065 Ethernet)

by rmurphy＠itm-inst.com

At 09:52 AM 4/13/02 -0500, pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com wrote: >Looks like I'm getting my DEC 5-letter scrambles confused. I don't >remember what it was called, but it has a pair of AUIs on the back, DEC >and its name on the front, and that's about it. Network bridge of some >sort? I didn't see any other ports like a console or anything. That's the DEBNT. (10 Megabit ethernet bridge). -Rick

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Central Point Option Board

by nemesis-lists＠icequake.net

Hello, I'm sorry if this is a double post; I didn't see my message when the digest came out. I put together a site with information and software for the Central Point Deluxe Option Board and related things. If anyone is still looking for the software, documentation, or whatnot, here's your chance. :) http://dbz.icequake.net/oldskool/dob/ There is also some tidbits at the top that are requests for information on various topics related to the Option Board; I'd appreciate it if anyone with a board would take a second to look it over and see if they can help. Thanks! -- Ryan Underwood, <nemesis at icequake.net>, icq=10317253 jabber=nemesis at jabber.icequake.net http://www.icequake.net/~nemesis |= icequake networks, ltd. =|= university of missouri rolla =| |= system administration =|= computer science =|

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Tinnerman nuts

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Carl --- That's close, but what I'm looking for clips around the rails, not into the hole, which is round. This looks almost exactly like it, at the bottom of the page... "Palnut Multi-Thread U-Nut" http://www.tt-ec.com/showcase/retaining/palunut.html ..that's it, I think... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash > ---------- > From: Carl Lowenstein > > You would be happier with the type of fastener that uses real machine > screws rather than the sheet-metal type screws that some racks have. > There is a nice picture of them on the Tinnerman Web site at > > < http://www.tt-ec.com/showcase/nutbolt/nutretcat.html > > > Of course, now that I think of it, DEC used something like that. > It was another brand of racks that used the sheet-metal screws. > > carl > -- > carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego > clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu > >

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Vax 4000/300 and Ultrix

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 15, Carlini, Antonio wrote: > > Isn't the MicroVAX-I CPU called "KD32"? > > Sometimes. But then sometimes it's called > the KA610. I'm assuming a late-breaking > name change (KD32->KA610) caused > the confusion in the various docs, but > I wasn't there and I don't know > anyone who was. Ahh, ok. I'd never heard the KA610 designation before. I'm getting my old VAXstation-I back in a few days; I haven't seen it for nearly ten years. A reunion! :-) I've got a nice Emulex MSCP ESDI controller for it...now I need to find a decent-sized (300MB-1GB) ESDI drive for it. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill

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Vax 4000/300 and Ultrix

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 15, Jochen Kunz wrote: > Even on a MV II / KA630 the QBus is not the system bus. The QBus is > attached through a bus bridge to the on board system bus. The console > SLU, TOY clock, ... reside on this bus too. So, by this definition, > no VAX is a QBus VAX. Hmmm. Maybe the MV I / KA610 can be a real QBus > machine, as it uses QBus RAM. Isn't the MicroVAX-I CPU called "KD32"? -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill

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Vax 4000/300 and Ultrix

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Isn't the MicroVAX-I CPU called "KD32"? Sometimes. But then sometimes it's called the KA610. I'm assuming a late-breaking name change (KD32->KA610) caused the confusion in the various docs, but I wasn't there and I don't know anyone who was. Antonio

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Berserker Works vintage computer games (fwd)

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>If you could give me ANY information on who might deal in such >vintage computer games, or even where I might look to try to find >someone, that would be great. Any leads would be much appreciated. >Thank you very much, A few seconds with google produced a possible C64= version (but I'm assuming it's not an entirely legit site ... http://www.c64.com/search.php?com=search_detail&search_year=1982) The next few hits were similar looking sites for Atari machines (just guessing from the hostnames) and an auction with what might be a relevant manual: http://www.bidville.com/listings/index.cfm?category=416&listing=current&sort by=date_desc&group=1 Surely *everyone* knows about search engines? Antonio

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FWD: Re: Goodbye VAX hello ALpha

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Mmmm, Windows user. Crunchy and good with ketchup. The original poster may well be. The responder isn't (you only have to read a few of his posts ...) ... he's got the right idea, he wants them for himself ! Antonio

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Goodbye VAX hello ALpha

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Has anyone seen this news posting? Yes. Nothing particularly surprising about it. I doubt that anyone would pay very much for VAXen that old. It's probably not worth a reseller's while trying to make a business out of selling them on ebay. The only businesses that might be interested are those that have such a machine in a mission-critical environment and they want one for spares or theirs just blew up and they need a replacement *now*. The only VAX 4000's that might sell would be the very latest -705As and maybe a -700A. VAX 7000's might sell too. Good luck with anything older. Why buy a VAX now when an Alpha can almost certainly do the same job (for most jobs, that is) and run rings around it too? Now my point of view as a hobbyist, is entirely different. I want *both* VAXes and Alphas :-) Antonio

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OP SYS SETUP

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Zane H. Healy [mailto:healyzh@aracnet.com] > Isn't Geo Works the only legitamate choice? ISTR, that it's Well, what do you consider legitimate? If you're talking about "piracy" problems, no, minix is not only still available but is also available now under a free-to-use license with source. > been renamed > and is still available with a lot of extra apps. I believe > that a 286 is > now the minimum requirement. Exactly why I'd go with an older version ;) ... but you're right, he could use the newer one, which is now called "New Deal Desktop." (I like "Geo Works" better) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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FWD: Re: Goodbye VAX hello ALpha

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Has anyone seen this news posting? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Goodbye VAX hello ALpha Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 22:55:13 -0400 From: Bill Gunshannon Organization: University of Scranton Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec References: <3Hmt8.2238$GS6.168438(a)bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com> On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Deane Williams <dwilliams296(a)comcast.net> wrote: > Hello > Just wondering is there a reseller/company that will take > VAXes in trade for Alphas?? I'm talking about 3100s and > even some 4000/XXX and 36/38XX series VAX. And after they get done rolling onthe floor laughing you could put them on a truck and send them up here. I can at least promise they won't be taking up space in a landfill. bill -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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A2065 Ethernet

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com > > On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > > You also cannot attach two tranceivers through a gender bender and get > > anywhere, even if you provide power. OTOH, there are devices like the > > DEC DELNI that do have multiple AUIs, but again, it's designed for it. > > They have a bunch of these over at Purdue Salvage. I think I might grab > one for 'fun'. Let me know if anyone else wants any. If not, is there > anything 'useful' inside? If they aren't wanted by anyone, I'd rather > scrap them for parts then see them in a landfill. > > -- Pat > Well, the shipping would probably be fairly cheap, since they don't weight too much. Grab me one if they're free, I'd toss it in my DEC rack... :) --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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FWD: Re: Goodbye VAX hello ALpha

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Yeah, I wonder what this Deane guy has exactly to get rid of... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash > ---------- > From: Dave McGuire > > > Mmmm, Windows user. Crunchy and good with ketchup. > > -Dave > > On April 15, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > Has anyone seen this news posting? > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Goodbye VAX hello ALpha > Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 22:55:13 -0400 > From: Bill Gunshannon > > On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Deane Williams <dwilliams296(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > Hello > > Just wondering is there a reseller/company that will take > > VAXes in trade for Alphas?? I'm talking about 3100s and > > even some 4000/XXX and 36/38XX series VAX. > > And after they get done rolling onthe floor laughing you could put them > on a truck and send them up here. I can at least promise they won't be > taking up space in a landfill. > > bill > -- > > > > --- David A Woyciesjes > > --- C & IS Support Specialist > > --- Yale University Press > > --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu > > --- (203) 432-0953 > > --- ICQ # - 905818 > > Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST > 2001 > > Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash > > > > -- > Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" > St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill > >

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TTL computing

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Xact, and older, much older version. I'd get the version number but the termcap file is OTL and I'm working on something else right now. That and a few bits provided by Tim olmstead to help with simulation. He was the one that got me into using them. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Sunday, April 14, 2002 11:46 PM Subject: Re: TTL computing >Do these tools have names, Allison? My old DOS-based tool for FPGA >development, from MMI, was called XACT, and that's what was intended for the >2000-series devices. A later version supported the 3000 series. > >Which tools do you use for developing both 2000 and 3000-series bitstreams? > >Dick > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "ajp166" <ajp166(a)bellatlantic.net> >To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 8:28 PM >Subject: Re: TTL computing > > >> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> >> >> >> >Which tools are you referring to, Allison? >> >> >> OLD tools, as in dos based. >> >> >I've found that the tools I once used with the old (pre-1990) 2064's, >> don't >> >work with the 3000-series, and, though I have some 3000-series parts >> (which, >> >back when I bought them, cost about $200 each) I've not figured out a >> way to >> >program them using the old XACT or the more recent "Foundation" >> software. >> >They clearly are no longer supported with current software. >> >> >> Neither have I. I also have the Synario package too. They phased out >> the tools for the 2064s a long time ago. >> >I have Synario for the Atmel devices. It's a Windows-based tool based, I >think, on a tool set originally cooked up by Data I/O. >> > >

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OP SYS SETUP

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

A number of Compaq portables require special software to do the setup. I don't remember if the SLT286 is one of them, but I emailed the guy directly with a link to the SLT group on Yahoo (compaqslt(a)yahoogroups.com), where someone should be able to help him out. -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) [mailto:cisin@xenosoft.com] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:05 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: OP SYS SETUP > >>WHERE CAN I FIND A FREE WIN OP SYS SETUP SOFTWARE FOR MY COMPAQ SLT286? > >>IT ALREADY HAS DOS/WIN INSTALLED BUT I CANNOT ACCESS IT- WIN? WIN3.1? > >>I DUUHHHH DUNNO....!!! > > >Alternatively, find Before we get into arguing about "better" configurations, .. Does anybody know what the f he's asking about? Is his machine broken? Is it working perfectly, but he doesn't know how to "access" it? Is it the machine that he's writing with? Perhaps fixing the shift key on his active machine should be a higher priority.

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OP SYS SETUP

by csmith＠amdocs.com

<I'm fighting back the temptation to reply in all caps with <b><i> s all over the place....> Tried Minix? It would probably really scream on that machine, being a 286... If you belive that it had windows at one point, I'll assume you have a hard drive (Minix doesn't require it, but it's nice to have) I have used Minix on a Leading Edge XT clone with 512k or RAM. It runs perfectly well there. :) Alternatively, find yourself a copy of Geo Works, which will like your 286 fine, and has a much better GUI than windows 95. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); ' -----Original Message----- From: mikeykmc(a)hotmail.com [mailto:mikeykmc@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:58 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: OP SYS SETUP WHERE CAN I FIND A FREE WIN OP SYS SETUP SOFTWARE FOR MY COMPAQ SLT286? IT ALREADY HAS DOS/WIN INSTALLED BUT I CANNOT ACCESS IT- WIN? WIN3.1? I DUUHHHH DUNNO....!!!

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Kinda OT?: Looking for rackmount screw sets....

by cdl＠mpl.ucsd.edu

> From port-vax-owner-clowenst=ucsd.edu(a)netbsd.org Mon Apr 15 08:53 PDT 2002 > Delivered-To: port-vax(a)netbsd.org > From: David Woyciesjes <DAW(a)yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu> > To: "NetBSD/Vax Mail List $E-mail$" <port-vax(a)netbsd.org>, > "classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org $E-mail$" <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: Kinda OT?: Looking for rackmount screw sets.... > Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 12:00:59 -0400 > > Well, I just acquired a 5' x 3' x 2' IBM AS400 drive cabinet. F--n > heavy! > Now, to mount equipment in it, I need to find some more of those > clip-on T-nut kinda things, which clip on around the hole in the rails, so > you then use the supplies screws to mount your equipment. Some older DEC > racks used the same thing. > Anybody know where I can get a dozen or two of these screw mount > sets? For a reasonable price? And what are they called? Tinnerman nuts. Google search returns 1350 hits. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein(a)ucsd.edu

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PDP-11/93 Console Pinout and model rev.

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Does anyone have the pinout for the db25 console port? Assuming that the 25-pin bulkhead connector marked "Console" is a serial console port? Also, I understand that a M8981-AA is a 2M board and a -BA is a 4M board. How do I find out which? This one just shows M8981 with no suffix, and "KDJ11-E CPU" on the processor side. It is without a doubt the prettiest processor chip I've ever seen. Doc, trying VERY hard not to brag or gloat.

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looking for ideas...

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 15, John Foust wrote: > At 07:13 PM 4/14/2002 +0100, you wrote: > >However, how is it better than desoldering the LED on the card, soldering > >a connector in its place, and running a couple of wires to the LED on the > >front panel? > > Uhm, "better"? On this side of the pond, we usually go > for "easy" or "well-marketed". :-) Well, *some* of us do. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill

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Kinda OT?: Looking for rackmount screw sets....

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: James B. DiGriz > > Dave McGuire wrote: > > On April 15, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > > >> Now, to mount equipment in it, I need to find some more of those > >>clip-on T-nut kinda things, which clip on around the hole in the rails, > so > >>you then use the supplies screws to mount your equipment. Some older DEC > >>racks used the same thing. > >> And, as you can guess, the guys at the local Home Depot just gave > >>me funny looks. > >> Anybody know where I can get a dozen or two of these screw mount > >>sets? For a reasonable price? And what are they called? > > > > > > These are called "tinnerman clips" (not sure about the spelling). > > Suppliers like Grainger or Newark Electronics will likely have them, > > but don't expect them to be cheap...just a plain 19" rack from places > > like this can run over $2000. > > > > I get mine from surplus dealers, usually attached to racks. :) > > > > -Dave > > > > > An auto parts store or auto body shop should have them. Look through the > Dorman fastener assortments if nobody knows what you're talking about. > > jbdigriz > Thanks! And an auto store would probably have them at a better price too... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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The CommodoreOne is near!

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Dave McGuire [mailto:mcguire@neurotica.com] > On April 12, Cameron Kaiser wrote: > > > Yeah. She's gonna get a flood of marriage proposals from dweebs > > > she's never met. > > Actually, she already does and has publicly lamented about > this before. > Bummer. We should all have such problems. Indeed, if that's her worst problem, she has no problem at all. Anyway, it ought not to be too difficult for her to produce an anti-proposal procmail rule. ;) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Kinda OT?: Looking for rackmount screw sets....

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> ---------- > From: Dave McGuire > > On April 15, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > Now, to mount equipment in it, I need to find some more of those > > clip-on T-nut kinda things, which clip on around the hole in the rails, > so > > you then use the supplies screws to mount your equipment. Some older DEC > > racks used the same thing. > > And, as you can guess, the guys at the local Home Depot just gave > > me funny looks. > > Anybody know where I can get a dozen or two of these screw mount > > sets? For a reasonable price? And what are they called? > > These are called "tinnerman clips" (not sure about the spelling). > Suppliers like Grainger or Newark Electronics will likely have them, > but don't expect them to be cheap...just a plain 19" rack from places > like this can run over $2000. > > I get mine from surplus dealers, usually attached to racks. :) > > -Dave > > Okay, thanks. Someone mentioned they have seen some like that used in automobiles, probably in the body work... Might not work quite right, though... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- mailto:david.woyciesjes@yale.edu --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Fri Dec 7 21:39:35 PST 2001 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Kinda OT?: Looking for rackmount screw sets....

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 15, David Woyciesjes wrote: > Now, to mount equipment in it, I need to find some more of those > clip-on T-nut kinda things, which clip on around the hole in the rails, so > you then use the supplies screws to mount your equipment. Some older DEC > racks used the same thing. > And, as you can guess, the guys at the local Home Depot just gave > me funny looks. > Anybody know where I can get a dozen or two of these screw mount > sets? For a reasonable price? And what are they called? These are called "tinnerman clips" (not sure about the spelling). Suppliers like Grainger or Newark Electronics will likely have them, but don't expect them to be cheap...just a plain 19" rack from places like this can run over $2000. I get mine from surplus dealers, usually attached to racks. :) -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill

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FW: Vax 11/785

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Hi everybody. Note that I have nothing to do with the following, except that I bought a Prime from these guys recently, and they're nice enough to hold it for me until I can move it ;) Well, that -- and I'd hate to see a VAX-11 go to scrap. It looks like they're looking for enough to make it worth their while to rescue the thing. No idea how much. You can email Joe at PPSJM _at_ prodigy dot net about this. Again, I know nothing about it, except that I couldn't' afford the money it would cost me to procure and move it right now, and I'd rather it not get torn apart. :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); ' -----Original Message----- From: Joe Moir Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 9:00 AM Subject: Vax 11/785 Hello, I just wanted to throw this out and see if anybody has any interest. We have an opportunity to pick up a complete VAX11/785. With all the boards in it, it's actually worth a decent amount as scrap metal. It is currently queued for the scrap heap. I would buy it and resell it if anyone has an interest. I guess if anyone is interested make me an offer and I'll see if it's worth it for me to pick it up. Thanks Joe Joe Moir Peripheral Parts Support Phone-781-895-4892 Fax-781-895-4893 www.ppsparts.com

24 years, 4 months

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NeXT Archive down

by jrice＠texoma.net

Did anyone notice that the NeXTstep archive at peanut.org is down. DNS can't resolve the domain name. Has peanuts been mirrored anywhere? James

24 years, 4 months

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Blinkenlights

by pat＠cart-server.purdueriots.com

I'm working on a project that I'd like to have an 'old-looking' computer running a device as a sort of 'process controller'. I really want it to have a 'blinkenlights' operators panel on it. As I don't have a commercially made computer with a suitable frontpanel on it, I was thinking about taking something I have and 'modifying' it to be suitable. So far, I have a couple options I am considering: 1) Customed designed mini using TTL (perhaps PALs so it doesn't take months to assemble, although I will probably 'bother' to make a PCB for it. 2) 8-bit ISA interface card and a 'suitably old' PC - Maybe an IBM 5150, maybe just a 486 - if I do a 5150, i'll be writing a bunch of assembly and avoiding using an OS. If I choose a 386/486 (I have spare 486s) I can work on a driver for it in Linux so I have some sort of usable OS available. 3) Apple //e card. I've got no idea how easy this will be to do - I don't really know 6502/apple assembly at all, nor the bus. #2 is the least amount of work for me, #3 some more work, #1 the most work. Has anyone ever create an 'operators panel' for a PC or Apple 2? I've got some ideas on how to do it (will definately require some soft/firmware to make it work nicely). Is anyone else interested in something similar? I was thinking about making something like a IMSAI front panel - using the system's NMI to trigger the software to 'activate' the panel. Any thoughts or suggestions? -- Pat

24 years, 4 months

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Fw: Help with Synergistic Info

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Second attempt to send. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Keys Jr." <jrkeys(a)concentric.net> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 5:51 PM Subject: Help with Synergistic Info > While down at my warehouse while looking for some manuals I came across > a strange box that was addressed to someone in MN. I opened it and > found a strange looking keyboard/computer. It's metal housing painted > black with gold stripes and printed on a label on the front "System > Logic / KBD-1 SYNERGISTIC DESIGN INC." . This is a strange looking > machine, the key caps are white clued on paper using black and red > printed letters. Anyone have one of these along with a manual or any > information on it? Thanks in advance John > >

24 years, 4 months

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looking for ideas...

by john_boffemmyer_iv＠boff-net.dhs.org

Ok, I know this is a bit off-topic, but I was looking for any ideas as to make a 3.5" or 5.25" drive bay LED array for my SCSI that I have running. Something that will allow for both SCSI controller LED's and then 3 or 4 LED's for HDD activity. Also, wondering if anyone knew how to make an LED that shows Ethernet connectivity and activity to interact with a standard ATX board and an old AMD PCNet II PCI Ethernet card. The whole reason I am interested in doing this is that now that I am running more than one machine tucked under my desk, I'd like to be able to see if something is wrong without having to open the damned thing or going desk diving for a failed NIC. Yes, it sounds lazy, but the idea of a front panel diagnostic isn't so bad and could also be used for other machines, correct? Besides, lots of blinky lights always impress company when people or clientele come over, grin. So again, any ideas? -John Boffemmyer IV ---------------------------------------- Founder, Lead Writer, Tech Analyst and Web Designer Boff-Net Technologies http://boff-net.dhs.org/index.html ---------------------------------------

24 years, 4 months

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Olivetti PC/1 question

by hansp＠aconit.org

I would like to know the price of an Olivetti PC/1 at time of its release in 1988, preferably in Italy where it was presumably first available. Thanks, -- HBP

24 years, 4 months

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Vax 4000/300 and Ultrix

by davebarnes＠adelphia.net

Hey All; Just picked up a Vax 4000/300 today with 2 RF71 DSSI drives, TK70, and I think 64MB ram... after I clean her up (its a little dusty) I was thinking about playing with Ultrix, as I have enough VMS machines... anyone know or try Ultrix 4.2 on the 4000/300? thats the latest I have for the vax platform.. I have 4.5 but thats for the MIPS which I run on my DECsystem 5000/240. Thanks -- David Barnes davebarnes(a)adelphia.net OpenVMS , Tru64, Netbsd, Linux guru and collector of DEC equipment

24 years, 4 months

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TI Insight 10

by jbdigriz＠dragonsweb.org

While tracking down information on some obscure TI digital logic, I came across a picture of this terminal on the Smithsonian website: http://smithsonianchips.si.edu/texas/t_434.htm There's also a picture of the prototype, which appears to be a heavily modified TI-99/4 (no A): http://smithsonianchips.si.edu/texas/t_433.htm Anyone have one of these, or know any more about them? jbdigriz

24 years, 4 months

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Berserker Works vintage computer games (fwd)

by vcf＠siconic.com

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 01:51:48 -0700 From: Jason Finley <jfinley(a)ucla.edu> Subject: Berserker Works vintage computer games Hi there, I am trying very hard to find some very rare out-of-print software. I am looking for two computer games, "The Berserker Raids," and "Wings Out of Shadow." The games were made and sold between 1982 and 1989, by Berserker Works Ltd. They were designed for home computers popular at the time, i.e. Apple II series 48k, Macintosh 512k, Commodore 64, Atari 400/800, IBM-PC, IBM-PC jr. Berserker Works Ltd was an effort of Fred and Joan Saberhagen, and the two games I am looking for were based on Fred's "Berserker" science fiction stories. I am in contact with Fred and Joan, and they don't have a movable copy of the games. I'm trying to get a hold of the software for an official Berserker fan web site I am making. If you could give me ANY information on who might deal in such vintage computer games, or even where I might look to try to find someone, that would be great. Any leads would be much appreciated. Thank you very much, Jason Finley -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

24 years, 4 months

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Amiga 2500 questions

by blacklord＠telstra.com

Hi guys, > difference. The Colt was Commodore's XT-clone so no, the > keyboard/mouse from the Colt will not work with the 2500. > Keyboards If the Colt is identical to that sold in Australia, then the mouse from it will work with an Amiga. CBM designed the Colt with an unusual connector (PC wise) that was identical to the Amiga's. We used to sell the Commodore PC mouse to Amiga customers as a replacement, it was around $15 cheaper than the Amiga one. I actually ended up using one myself when my A1000's mouse went berko & died. Keyboard adapters (PC > A2000) where fairly common once, the hard ones to fnd are the PC > A1000, although I have a few of these. Cheers, Lance ---------------- Powered by telstra.com

24 years, 4 months

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TTL computing

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com> >Which tools are you referring to, Allison? OLD tools, as in dos based. >I've found that the tools I once used with the old (pre-1990) 2064's, don't >work with the 3000-series, and, though I have some 3000-series parts (which, >back when I bought them, cost about $200 each) I've not figured out a way to >program them using the old XACT or the more recent "Foundation" software. >They clearly are no longer supported with current software. Neither have I. I also have the Synario package too. They phased out the tools for the 2064s a long time ago. Allison

24 years, 4 months

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Vax 4000/300 and Ultrix

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 14, Sridhar the POWERful wrote: > > > Especially since that machine isn't Qbus. It's main bus is that 4300+ > > > PELE stuff. > > True and false. ;-) > > The machine has a QBus and therefore the CPU card has a QBus interface. > > So it is a QBus VAX by my definition. > > The CPU board is no QBus board like the KA630..KA660. It has a special > > backplane connector and the (passive) backplane distributes the signals > > from this connector to the QBus slots, the memory slots and DSSI drive > > bays. So this is no QBus VAX by your definition. > > But that is not how I define it. The system bus of this machine is not > Qbus, so the machine is not a Qbus machine. Why, because the memory isn't on the Qbus? The MicroVAX-II's memory isn't on the Qbus either. The only other difference (in this context) is the presence of a DSSI adapter on the CPU board that isn't connected [logically] via the Qbus. Many systems have several busses. Which do you use to define the "bus" of the machine? -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill >From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Apr 14 21:05:33 2002 From: MAILER-DAEMON (Mail Delivery Subsystem) Date: Sun Feb 27 18:05:24 2005 Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours Message-ID: <200204150205.g3F1vMf36101(a)ns2.ezwind.net> The original message was received at Sun, 14 Apr 2002 16:59:08 -0500 (CDT) >from user(a)stl-207-206-136-99.dialup.accessus.net [207.206.136.99] ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors ----- <remove(a)randbad.com> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- <remove(a)randbad.com>... Deferred: Connection refused by postoffice.randbad.com. Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old Message delivered to mailing list <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>

24 years, 4 months

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More 11/750 PSU Qs

by meltie＠myrealbox.com

Hello all. I was wondering if any of you know of a good power supply rebuilders in the UK? Why? Because i'm rather scared of the PSU bricks supplied with my VAX 11/750. 5V @ 135A, 2.5V @ 85A sounds unhealthy. I've seen small capacitors the size of your thumbnail make holes in ceilings when abused, I don't want to see what the four caps as thick as your arm and about 10" long that construe most of the 11/750 PSU system will do when being powered up in a (known) broken PSU setup after ~10 years storage. What do I do? Do I get the PSUs rebuilt? (if such a service exists) Do I order a new industrial PSU to supply these voltages/currents (plus others, such as the +15 for the memory boards)? Do I buy 5 or 6 PC power supplies and run their outputs in parallel with some nice heavy-gauge cable? Alex

24 years, 4 months

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DEC KZQSA wanted

by davebarnes＠adelphia.net

Anyone have a KZQSA with handles for a BA430 (Vax 4000 series) cab they want to trade for? I have lots of DEC stuff so just ask... -- David Barnes davebarnes(a)adelphia.net OpenVMS , Tru64, Netbsd, Linux guru and collector of DEC equipment

24 years, 4 months

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Compaq SLT 286

by barry.appleby＠swipnet.se

For Sale Compaq SLT 286 Swedish keyboard In working order - no battery Am looking for good home for this machine as refuse to dump it if somebody has a use for it Best regards Barry Apppleby

24 years, 4 months

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Web-Tronics.com (was Re: TTL computing)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: pat(a)cart-server.purdueriots.com > Well, googling to see what a 'LS170 was, I found this place that has them, > along with a 'LS181! Google? Hmm, no offence or anything, but I find an ECG book to be a lot handier for looking up general specs. > Even at a decent price, too. > > http://www.web-tronics.com/ls181.html Thanks for the pointer. I must wonder, though, if there's *something wrong with this picture* -- Web-Tronics lists the 'LS170 at 50 cents, MCM has it at $4. I know MCM is high, but this seems like too much of a spread. Glen 0/0

24 years, 4 months

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Need a supplier for 80-pin IDC ribbon plug ...

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

[now that classiccmp posts my messages again, let me try again. I am really desperate about this one.] Hi, I just received two fine boards that need to be connected to one other board each, through a very short cable, which is a 80 position ribbon with 0.025 in pitch (the small pitch) and an IDC female connector on each end with 2 row of 40 holes at a distance of 0.05 in between the holes. Turns out that most suppliers stock maxes out at 64 pin IDC sockets, and the rest is special order with crazy prices $3 to $22 and wild minimum orders of 23 to 100. So, who knows of a place that serves small customers? (I need 10 of these connectors maximal and maximum 1 ft of the matching cable.) Web sites phone numbers anything. May be it might be easier to find the original DEC hardware, I'm talking about the over-the-top connector of a DEC KA64A to the FV64A, anyone having the FV64A installation guide that tells us the part number of that cable? Thanks very much, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

24 years, 4 months

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Laughlin Nevada for $19.95 ADV.

by hartman＠grzzr.com

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24 years, 4 months

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HP IPC (update)

by vp＠mcs.drexel.edu

Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > One of the options for the IPC is Technical BASIC in ROM. Yes, looking closer at the ROM cartridge I see that the TechBASIC code and version is on a sticker placed over the (larger) HP-UX sticker. I must consider myself really lucky for getting that ROM, otherwise I'd have to write shell scripts to program the IPC :-) I opened the ROM pack and it contains two PCBs, the larger contains the interface holes (where the pins sticking up from the IPC motherboard make contact) and contains the OS ROMs (it says OS ROM on the PCB), while the smaller sits on top of the OS PCB and contains the TechBASIC ROMs (it says OPTION ROM on the PCB). Each PCB contains two pairs of ROMs. OS are ROM0 (high and low) and ROM1 (High and Low). The TechBASIC are ROM2 (H and L) and ROM3 (H and L). Obviously since the ROMs are 8bit and the 68000 is 16 bit you need a pair of ROMs for each bank. The OPTION ROM PCB has a very straightforward interface since it contains just the 4 ROMs. I am not sure of the capacity of the ROMs but I wouldn't think that they are likely to be larger that 64Kbytes each. Now that we can get far larger PROMs, if the images of the SE ROM were available, would it be possible to construct an OPTION ROM PCB with everything in it? > [...] C compiler (I think it includes an assembler) [...] Thats great news I was thinking about setting up gcc on my OpenBSD system as a cross compiler for the IPC, but in that case I'd need to recreate the system libraries and include files. Is there any way you can put them up for ftp? ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote: > HPIL is a loop, not a bus (strictly). Guilty as charged, I was over simplifying to the point of being wrong. I have a collection of HP-IL calculators and peripherals so I've had first hand experience of things failing to work because of breaks (or powered down devices) in the loop. > Be careful. External HPIL ports are supposed to be transformer-isolated > (using a special HP pulse transformer module, 9100-4226 IIRC). Every > HPIL device with the external connector will contain said transformer. yes I've been thinking about where to get such a transformer (and the dual HP-IL socket). I was thinking of cannibalizing an HP-IL module for the HP-41. > Is this the Thinkjet cartridge (little clear plastic thing with a black > rubber ink sack inside)? If so, then the printer electronics is likely to > be close to the Thinkjet as well Its a Thinkjet all right. I have both the HP-IB and the HP-IL versions of the Thinkjet and the mechanism and electronics of the printer in the Integral are very close to the HP-IL version of the Thinkjet. > If you have problems, then I've repaired enough Thinkjets to be able to > offer comments... Apart of having to clean the printer compartment of ink - unfortunately the IPC was shipped with a print cartridge installed :-( it works all right. However, the instructions for cartridge replacement in the HP-IL Thinkjet manual, imply that a small pad is supplied inside the cartridge packaging. This pad is supposed to be inserted in front of the the cartridge on the print-head. The new ink cartridges I have purchased do not have this pad and each time the machine powers up the Thinkjet deposits a blob of ink on the paper. Anybody knows of what can be used as a replacement for this pad? > This surprises me. A 1.44M drive _using 720K disks_ should have no > problems. Me too! I am routinely reading and writing 9114 floppies on my laptop but the IPC drive is particularly difficult. In the beginning I was really lost because I would prepare floppies and the IPC would just say no. At one point I thought there was something wrong with the drive itself. Once I got the 720K drive for my PC, the IPC capitulated. One interesting point is that using my "Unix" system (OpenBSD 2.9) I can dd images on a new 720K diskette (i.e. formatted for the IBM-PC) but the OpenBSD system barfs when I try to do the same on the same floppy once it has been formatted by the IPC. I have excluded alignment problems because I also have an 9122D external drive and have done tests with floppies prepared on these drives. Now that the IPC is usable, I am going to do more tests once I have some spare time. **vp

24 years, 4 months

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TTL computing

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

Engish not vendoreze... dont know those parts at all. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Ben Franchuk <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Sunday, April 14, 2002 1:29 PM Subject: Re: TTL computing >ajp166 wrote: > >> I've done this with other similar packaged devices and it flies. >Got any more details? >> What prom are you looking for? >> >> I'm still playing with some 2064s and 3030s and 3050s, yes they are old >> but >> the tools were free, the parts cheap and easy to load up with a 2816/64. >> >> Allison >I am useing Altera. Altera EPC1141LC20,EPC1LC20 or ATMEL >AT17C512A,AT17C010A. > >-- >Ben Franchuk - Dawn * 12/24 bit cpu * >www.jetnet.ab.ca/users/bfranchuk/index.html

24 years, 4 months

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who needed 11/750 power supply info?

by wonko＠arkham.ws

i was poking around the one box of docs that came with my PDP-11/34a that i picked up a couple months ago, when i found the 11/750 Field Maint. Print Set as well as the KA750 Field Maint. Print Set. i mentioned this to Dave McGuire who said someone on this list was looking for power supply info for the 11/750. if you still need help, contact me off-list and i'll give you whatever help i can. cheers, -brian -- "Today, put your best foot forward. If you're not sure which of your feet is your best foot, cut one off. Then it doesn't matter." - www.lowbrow.com -

24 years, 4 months

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updated hardware status

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

So far, cash ($135.00) has been donated as well as the following hardware... 256mb RAM 32X IDE CDROM 1.44mb floppy drive Also, due to many requests, I upgraded my paypal account to accept credit card donations as well. All the support is most appreciated! Jay West

24 years, 4 months

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What's wrong with the classiccmp list server?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

since about 1 or 2 weeks classiccmp seems to silently discard my postings without any error. What's wrong? Am I the only one who has that problem? thanks -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

24 years, 4 months

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MicroVAX-I VMS support?

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

4.7 should be doable, 5.x not likely. The biggest problem with MV-1s I've seen is it's hard to get enough memory in them. I'd say for 5.0 4mb is really running too close to the bone. Allison -----Original Message----- From: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Sunday, April 14, 2002 2:16 AM Subject: MicroVAX-I VMS support? > > Can anyone tell me the latest release of VMS that will run on a >MicroVAX-I? The last one I ran had 4.5 on it, but I'd like to run at >least 4.7 or 5.x. > > Thanks, > -Dave > >-- >Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" >St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill >

24 years, 4 months

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Canon FV-540 Still Video Floppy Disk Drive on eBay

by jfoust＠threedee.com

I put this circa-1991 item on eBay, it looks like it's going to end at less than $10. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1345799733 I'm auctioning a batch of other computer-related items, but this was the most classic or obscure. - John Canon FV-540 Still Video Floppy Disk Drive This was used with the Canon RC-540 Still Video Camera, an early digital camera dating back to 1991. It was part of Canon's Professional Still Video Imaging Kit, a $4900 package. It stored images to a 2" inch floppy disk, and you'd move those floppies to this SCSI device to view thumbnails and retrieve images using Canon's SV-Scan software or other packages. Each could store up to 50 images at low resolution (72 DPI) or up to 32 images at high resolution (150 DPI). I will include a Zip file (Wfvscan2.zip) containing Windows FV-Scan software, which requires a Corel or Trantor SCSI card interface. I haven't tested it. I think there was Mac and even Next software available for this unit. Perhaps you can find it on the net. The box has S-Video in, and composite in and out, and two SCSI ports.

24 years, 4 months

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MicroVAX-I VMS support?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Can anyone tell me the latest release of VMS that will run on a MicroVAX-I? The last one I ran had 4.5 on it, but I'd like to run at least 4.7 or 5.x. Thanks, -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill

24 years, 4 months

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Central Point Option Board

by nemesis-lists＠icequake.net

Hello, I've begun to prepare a site with a wealth of Option Board information. Hopefully, the end result will be that any person with an Option Board and no docu/software will be able to use it productively. http://dbz.icequake.net/oldskool/dob/ I would appreciate any comments, criticism, flames, corrections, information, whatever. 8) -- Ryan Underwood, <nemesis at icequake.net>, icq=10317253 jabber=nemesis at jabber.icequake.net http://www.icequake.net/~nemesis |= icequake networks, ltd. =|= university of missouri rolla =| |= system administration =|= computer science =|

24 years, 4 months

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my little idea...

by john_boffemmyer_iv＠boff-net.dhs.org

Well, from the overwhelming response already, it seems like a good one =) Now for an important issue: I have no real clue of electronics pathways, circuity (board level repairs), soldering, etc. nor am I knowledgeable of electrical currents, signalling or anything else necessary. I have quickly realized this. If I paid money is some form or means, would it be possible for someone to actually set this up in a provided 5.25" or 3.5" bay blank? I am fully willing to pay for components, shipping and labor. The concept is thus: 2 LED's for SCSI controller I/O, 2 LED's for Ethernet and 4 LED's for SCSI drives. Was hoping for SCSI LED's to be orange, Ethernet to be yellow and SCSI drives to be possibly blue. I would have to assume that even the blue LED's can be obtained reasonably from somewhere to make this work. Again, I am ignorant of electrical work and this is why I ask for help. The SCSI controller is an LSI Logic 22910, the Ethernet controller is an IBM PCI Ethernet adapter (AMD PC-Net II) and I think the SCSI drives for front panel LED's are pretty standard. I DO HAVE THE SHEETS ON ALL OF THESE. Anyone interested? Please email me in private: john_boffemmyer_iv(a)boff-net.dhs.org I am a computer technician and network troubleshooter. I am in NO way a rocket scientist or experienced avid hobbiest like some of my brethren here. Many of you have this knowledge and experience, please help if you can. ...BTW Doc, yes, I really do have too much time on my hands sometimes... when I am not commuting 2 hours each way to work and putting in 42hr+ work weeks. The weekends become a lull and boredom sinks in... that is when my damned mind rears it's ugly head and starts thinking (I hate when it does that). Thanks gang, John ---------------------------------------- Founder, Lead Writer, Tech Analyst and Web Designer Boff-Net Technologies http://boff-net.dhs.org/index.html ---------------------------------------

24 years, 4 months

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test, disregard please

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

sorry, classiccmp stopped forwarding my messages. I just resubscribed and this is a probe to see if it works now.

24 years, 4 months

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Ready for another junk ^H^H^H^H er,ah, computer feast? (Central Florida)

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 11, Joe wrote: > I just talked to Eric Smith and he's going to be visiting this area (Orlando) around May 17 or 18. I thought it might be a good time for another Junk Feast. Let me know if you're interested. Hey! Yes!! :-) I missed the last one because I hadn't moved down here yet...but now I'm just a little ways away in St. Petersburg. Barring any catastrophe, count me in! -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill

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HSC90: who knows what K.ci status 111 means?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, few days ago I moved my HSC90 into the basement and today I changed the power-plug to a 4-prong household kind, plugged it in and it actually powered up. I could even boot it from the RX33 disk that had been sitting for years on a scrap yard. All good news. But seems like I have a serious error in the CI "host adapter" and the HSC User Manual doesn't say anything about it. the K.ci fails DIT with status 111. SHOW ALL says that K.ci was not detected. The three boards show the follwing lights: | R | R R 1 2 3 where "R" marks a red LED and | marks a row of yellow LEDs. Notably the green LEDs underneath the red ones don't come on whereas they do come on on all the SI interfaces. Knowing that the CI is finnicky with unterminated ports I did connect all four to the star coupler. But it didn't change the error. Are my cards broken? I hope there's some other oversight that can be uncovered with the deciphering of the status 111. Thanks, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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TTL computing

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> Are you saying that a program in a mask programmed ROM is > not firmware? Because everybody else that I know would call it > that. > There are many who would disagree with them, Tony. One characteristic common to all definitions I've run into in firmware is that it's FIELD-Programmable. Another is that it's non-volatile, i.e. persists between power cycles. Richard, you seem to be forgetting all those adverts from the 70s and 80s that boasted "Firmware in ROM!". Also a quick look at a dictionary reveals ... 8^)= --------------------------------------------- firm?ware Pronunciation Key (f?rm w?r ) n. Computer programming instructions that are stored in a read-only memory unit rather than being implemented through software. Source: The American Heritage? Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright ? 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. --------------------------------------------- firmware n : (computer science) coded instructions that are stored permanently in read-only memory. Source: WordNet ? 1.6, ? 1997 Princeton University --------------------------------------------- firmware Software stored in read-only memory (ROM) or programmable ROM (PROM). Easier to change than hardware but harder than software stored on disk. Firmware is often responsible for the behaviour of a system when it is first switched on. A typical example would be a "monitor" program in a microcomputer which loads the full operating system from disk or from a network and then passes control to it. Source: The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing, ? 1993-2001 Denis Howe --------------------------------------------- Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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Fw: Help on two new finds

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

----- Original Message ----- From: "John R. Keys Jr." <jrkeys(a)concentric.net> To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 8:13 PM Subject: Help on two new finds > Today I found a Black IBM external 8 inch drive at a Goodwill here for > $12.99. I checked google and could not find any real good info on it. > IBM's site was not much help either since this unit is from 1995. Anyone > have in details on it, I would like to hook it up to the AS/400 I got > the other day. > > Down at my warehouse while looking for some manuals I came across a box > that was addressed to someone in MN. I opened it and found a strange > looking keyboard/computer. It's black with gold stripes and says on the > front "System Logic / KBD-1 SYNERGISTIC DESIGN INC." . This is a > strange looking machine, the key caps are white clued on paper using > black and red print. Anyone have one of these along with a manual or > any information on it? Thanks in advance John >

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list server computer hardware will change

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Greetings; FYI - at some point in the not too distant future (read weeks) I want to move the classiccmp list onto a different machine (but same location). This isn't being done for cpu/memory load or bandwidth reasons, it's mainly for logistical reasons. So - one machine will be dedicated to handling all classiccmp list traffic and that is all it will do. Right now the machine the list is on is also one of several doing backup DNS and mail for the ISP. Once the classiccmp stuff is moved it will also be shadowed by some of our other servers, but the primary server will be dedicated to classiccmp. I am perfectly willing to subsidize the entire cost of the hardware for the new machine. However, I am also willing to accept any donations of cash or hardware to cover the cost. I will host the machine and maintain it always for free, but the initial hardware would be nice to get some help with (although not required!). Here are the components and costs. If anyone has any of the components to spare and is willing to donate them, great - or if you want to kick in some cash to defray the cost - great too. But whatever people don't cover, I'm willing to cover myself even if it is the entire amount. ASUS micro-ATX motherboard with built in video and network interface: $65.00 Intel celeron 1.2ghz $80 Teac Floppy: $10 IDE CD-ROM: $30 256mb RAM: $80 30gb ultra IDE hard drive: $0 (I already have this sitting around, but a 2nd to mirror might be nice) 1U rackmount chassis: $150 In order to address the previously discussed issues of [offlist] tags and html rejection, as well as because of a lot of other nifty features, I'm also considering using mailman. It gives a wonderfull web interface for those that want to do their subscribes/unsubscribes & the like on their own. Yes, it still supports email subscribtion requestions. Basically, it gives me a lot of flexibility and options that majordomo doesn't. Not sure about this all yet. Thanks! Jay West

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Paper tape encoding scheme needed

by mranalog＠attbi.com

Bill Richman wrote: >... > while having the reader software ignore them, I'd like to follow some > kind of established standard. Can anyone give me any pointers on > this? Since DATA I/O makes a paper tape reader to connect to some of their PROM programmers, there a great description of various paper tape and data formats included in their PROM programmer manuals. http://www.spies.com/arcade/TE/DataIO29A.pdf See Appendix A Regards, --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward @ home in Poulsbo, WA Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog Analogrechner, calculateur analogique, calcolatore analogico, analoogrekenaar, komputer analogowy, analog bilgisayar, kampiutere ghiyasi, analoge computer. =========================================

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Free TK50 cartridges

by lists＠subatomix.com

I have a line on "at least 32 tk-50 tape cartridges" for free in (I think) Ohio. If you want these, follow the sig instructions and mail me. I may then put you in contact with the owner. -- Jeffrey Sharp The email address lists(a)subatomix.com is for mailing list traffic. Please send off-list mail to roach jay ess ess at wasp subatomix beetle dot com. You may need to remove some bugs first.

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classiccmp hardware status...

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

So far, cash ($35) has been donated as well as the following hardware... 256mb RAM 32X IDE CDROM 1.44mb floppy drive Quite a few people have asked if I can take the donations via paypal... so my paypal id is jwest(a)classiccmp.org It is a personal paypal account, so as I understand it, you can send donations if you have a verified paypal bank account. They have to come from a bank account, not a credit card. Also - I don't wish to have extra cash left over from any donations. So I'll probably work out something where if there is cash left over, the extra amount is divided up among the people who donated based on their percentage of donation and send them cash back. Or it could be kept in case hardware fails, but I really don't want to go down that route. In any case, once the hardware is all purchased and covered, I will post an accounting of each amount or hardware donated so everyone knows it's all above-board so to speak. My sincere thanks! Jay West

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Amiga haul in Topeka

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

I made contact with an employee of Kansas Computer Recycling Corp. in Topeka. The conversation drifted to my favorite subject, and he said they had a bunch of cards for Amigas, including what he thought was a toaster . . . . Well they did have them. I went home with 15 Toaster cards, 5 Flyer cards, 18 Ethernet cards (extremely rare and pricey), 4 68040 accerator cards, and a plethora of other goodies. I will have extras of the above for sale, once I chip through them and see what's working and not. This has to be the <<<<BEST>>>>> Amiga find in all the years I've played with them. Also at KCRC in Topeka, I saw a Sun SPARQ in the scrap pile out back, so they occasionally get the higher grade stuff. Check out www.kansascrc.com or e-mail kansascrc(a)go.com. Gerald & Lynne Hartman are the owners, and they dismantle mostly later PC stuff and pitch the old/odd stuff out the back door. Gary Hildebrand ST. JOseph, MO

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Free MV3100/80 & Misc (Melbourne, .au)

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Please contact Darren directly if interested in this system; he would like it to go to a good home. Bill ----- Forwarded message from Darren Harrison <harrojnr(a)ozemail.com.au> ----- From: "Darren Harrison" <harrojnr(a)ozemail.com.au> To: "Bill Bradford" <mrbill(a)mrbill.net> Subject: Re: vax micro computer Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:54:31 +1000 Thanks Bill, It is a Digital MicroVAX 3100-80 with a storage expansion. Both are SCSI compatible and the storage expansion also has a 9 track port. VAX 3100-80 Model No. -470ZM-B9-A01 SN - KA236W6545 Storage expansion Model No. - SZ12J-JA SN - AB23403IHO I did notice you were in Austin, TX. The VAX and I are in Melbourne, Australia. Hope this doesn't cause any problems. Thanks again, Darren Harrison Urban Science, harrojnr(a)ozemail.com.au ----- Original Message ----- -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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Free MV3100/80 & Misc (Melbourne, .au)

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> Christopher Smith wrote: > >There's also an alternate alternate procedure that would involve not >running sys$system:startup.com or whatever, and just trying to run >"authorize," installing the proper images until it stops complaining >about not having them ;) I suppose if you are a masochist, yes :-) The original poster seems to have missed the required $ SET NOON That should be the first thing you type, without that the first error bombs you out and you get to boot all over again ... It looks like he just didn't know that at the Username: prompt, if you have managed to boot with SYSUAFALT (and the startup files don't plug this hole! ... which is the reason for the long-winded crack anyway) then as long as it's the console and as long as you enter SYSTEM you just need to hit RETURN (well anything really) for both the password prompts and you are in. Copious details at: http://www.openvms.compaq.com/wizard/openvms_faq.html and plenty of docs at http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/ (OpenVMS User's manual is probably a good one to start with). Be nice to see that list of docs ... Antonio

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Amiga Toaster was re: Amiga haul in Topeka

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

I contacted a local (Kansaas City) amigaphile and Toaster technician, and he gave me the lowdown on hardware requirements for the Toaster and Toaster Flyer systems. The Toaster 2000 and Toaster 4000 cards are different, and require different software to operate. The physical difference is that the 4000 card was made a bit shorter so it would easily fit in the standard slot on an A3000 or A4000 desktop. The A2000 card was in its own dedicated video card slot, and wasn't limited in lengh. I'm getting the software from him, and we're setting up a test machine to do a go/no go test on these cards. He also does componenet level repairs on motherboards, etc. for most Amigas, if anyone is interested. Of course that is limited by parts availability. Gary Hildebrand ST. Joseph, MO

24 years, 4 months

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Does Anyone Have A

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> > I concede I am not only both silly and lazy, but somewhat disturbed (and > somewhat disturbing as well). God-oh-mighty. Sellam, what's this? Honesty and personal disclosure all in one post? What could be next? Kindness? Dude! Glen 0/0

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Amiga Toaster was re: Amiga haul in Topeka

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Hi; I am interested in one of your Toaster 2000 cards when you get around to deciding what you are willing to part with. I have been keeping a 2000 around for years. Thanks for the info too. I like the history. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Anyone Care About RT-11

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jerome H. Fine [mailto:jhfinepw4z@compsys.to] > As for the first bug I want to put on the list, MACRO-11 does > not conform to the ISO standard since it uses ONLY 2 digit There's an ISO MACRO-11? :) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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The CommodoreOne is near!

by bpope＠wordstock.com

To all who may be interested, The "CommodoreOne" is nearing completion. Check out http://www.commodoreone.com for a picture of the partially assembled motherboard! :) (Click on news) If that site is down, go to http://www.geocities.com/profdredd/ and click on "CommodoreOne Details" for a bigger picture with important features pointed out. Cheers, Bryan

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Digital Printronix P300? for sale

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Anybody need a small, lightweight, fast line printer? If so, delete this post. :) We got in 2 printers yesterday that are DEC badged on front, but the only other info I can find is a Printronix label on the pedestal designating it a P300. I guess Printronix built printers for DEC? Anyway, they are pristine. I haven't unwrapped the pallets they're on, but judging by the condition of the computer that drove them, I'll bet even the ribbon is good. They're available for sale, not by me. If you need one and are willing to arrange shipping, contact me off list. Doc

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Documation D150 card reader

by vcf＠siconic.com

I have a Documation D150 card reader that I am trying to make operational. I fired it up today and ran a card through, only to have a big black streak get "printed" to the card. I thought this was odd, so I opened it up and found several problems. The black streak was caused by the roller that pulls the card through the slot. It's basically melted into a gooey ink-like mess. Actually, only one side of it has melted. The other side is mostly intact, so I may be able to just eliminate the melted side and still use this roller. It looks like this: __ __ | \/ | ==| |== <-- spindle |__/\__| ^- one side melted Then there is a rubber gasket that was around a disc that was situated perpendicular to the way the card slides through. This roller dried up and crumbled into several different pieces. ^ card goes in this way ---> and the rubber disk spun this way | | I think the purpose of this roller was to push the card against the guide so that it goes through the reader straight. Then there are two toothed belts driving cams from motors. One of them got completely obliterated. The radial threads inside the belt got wrapped around the drive cam and left a gooey residue on it. The other belt is still in tact but very gooey, and is probably going to go at some point as well. I was able to get this code off of it: SDP 6R6-055018C I did a Google search but didn't turn anything up on this reader. Does anyone know of a source to get replacement belts and parts for this reader? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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The CommodoreOne is near!

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 12, Cameron Kaiser wrote: > > Yeah. She's gonna get a flood of marriage proposals from dweebs > > she's never met. > > Actually, she already does and has publicly lamented about this before. Bummer. We should all have such problems. > Did I miss where you asked if she was cute, keeping in line with your > trademark theme? ;-) I already know she's cute. :) -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill

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The CommodoreOne is near!

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 12, James B. DiGriz wrote: > > I wasn't going to mention it...but yes, quite cute indeed. > > Absolutely. The thing is, I look at her work, and I tend to forget or > not care about that. I'm getting an inferiority complex, in fact. Me to, for the latter anyway. I don't forget...it just makes me wonder if she's single. ;) > Bet she's dreading slashdot, though :-) Yeah. She's gonna get a flood of marriage proposals from dweebs she's never met. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill

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TTL computing

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > Here's how I'd do it (to make an 8 * 1 bit fusible-fuse PROM). [snip] > The way it works is like this. Normaly the Rd/Pgm relay is in the Rd > state (as shown). In which case the sense relay is energised if the > selected fuse is intact. You can use the contacts of the > sense relay to > turn on/off a light bulb or something. Very close to what I imagined doing -- though, I hadn't gotten as far as an address decoder. :) Thanks. > To blow a fuse, select it with the decoder tree and then energise the > Rd/Pgm relay briefly. Enough current will flow via the > limiting resistor > to blow the selected fuse. When the Rd/Pgm relay returns to > the normal > position, there will no longer be a path to ground for the > bottom end of > the sense relay, so this relay will not be energised. Again -- a good plan. I was thinking about using a momentary switch for programming anyway, rather than anything more complex, so that fits exactly with what I wanted. > I am going to _have_ to make one of these just for fun.... I'm glad that I'm not the only one crazy enough to consider trying it. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

24 years, 4 months

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HP IPC (update)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote (after Vassilis Prevelakis): > > The built-in printer takes hp92261a print cartridges which (amazingly) > > Is this the Thinkjet cartridge (little clear plastic thing with a black > rubber ink sack inside)? If so, then the printer electronics is likely to > be close to the Thinkjet as well (see above for my comments on HPIL on > this, etc). Yes, the Integral takes Thinkjet cartridges. I think the Integral's printer is just a Thinkjet repackaged to fit in the top of an Integral, though it's been a while since I've looked at or inside an Integral and lately my memory for these sorts of details has gone to hell. -Frank McConnell

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"Foundations of Microprogramming" Available in UK (Long)

by celigne＠celigne.freeserve.co.uk

I'm certainly not going to get involved in a discussion about PALs and FPGAs, but if anyone wants to know more about microprogrammed machines, I have a book which I will gladly trade for any interesting terminal manuals. Beware, it's over 400 pages of machines I've never heard of. Contents follows: ACM Monograph Series Foundations of Microprogramming: architecture, software and applications Ashok K. Agrawala and Tomlinson G. Rauscher Academic Press, Inc. 1976 ISBN 0-12-045150-6 Chapter 1 - Introduction to Microprogramming Concepts 1.1 Basic Computer Organization 1.1.1 Basic Hardware Resources 1.1.2 Control of Primitive Operations 1.1.3 Generation of Control Information 1.2 Evolution of Microprogramming 1.3 A Simple Microprogrammble Machine - An Example 1.4 Microprogramming and Programming 1.5 Microprogrammability 1.6 Microprogramming, Microprocessors, and Microcomputers Chapter 2 - Architectural Characteristics of Microprogrammed Computers 2.1 Introduction 2.2 Hardware Components 2.2.1 Overview of Hardware Components 2.2.2 Control Store Design 2.2.3 Arithmetic and Logic Unit Design 2.2.4 Local Store 2.2.5 Main Memory 2.2.6 Data Paths 2.2.7 Summary of the SMM 2.3 Microinstruction Design 2.3.1 Introduction 2.3.2 The Vertical-Horizontal Characteristics 2.3.3 The Encoding Characteristic 2.3.4 Microinstruction Design for the SMM 2.3.5 Microinstruction Sequencing 2.3.6 Residual Control 2.3.7 Control Store Literals 2.4 Microinstruction Implementation 2.4.1 Introduction 2.4.2 The Serial-Parallel Characteristics 2.4.3 The Monophase-Polyphase Characteristics Chapter 3 - Microprogramming Languages and Support Software 3.1 Introduction 3.2 Microprogramming Languages and their Translators 3.3 Simulators and their Implementation 3.4 Computer Description Languages Chapter 4 - Computers with Vertical Microinstructions 4.1 Introduction 4.2 The Standard Logic CASH-8 4.2.1 CASH-8 Background 4.2.2 CASH-8 Architecture 4.2.3 CASH-8 Microprogrammability 4.3 The Burroughs B1700 4.3.1 Burroughs B1700 Overview 4.3.2 B1726 Architecture 4.3.3 B1726 Microprogrammability 4.3.4 B1726 Microprogramming Language 4.3.5 Sample B1726 Microprograms Chapter 5 - Computers with Diagonal Microinstructions 5.1 Introduction 5.2 The Hewlett-Packard HP21MX 5.2.1 HP21MX Background 5.2.2 HP21MX Architecture 5.2.3 HP21MX Microprogrammability 5.2.4 HP21MX Microprogram Examples 5.2.5 Additional HP21MX Features 5.3 The Digital Scientific META 4 5.3.1 META 4 Background 5.3.2 META 4 Architecture 5.3.3 META 4 Microprogrammability 5.3.4 META 4 Examples 5.4 The INTERDATA Model 85 5.4.1 INTERDATA Model 85 Background 5.4.2 INTERDATA Model 85 Architecture 5.4.3 INTERDATA 85 Microprogrammability 5.4.4 INTERDATA 85 Microprogram Example 5.5 The Microdata 3200 5.5.1 Microdata 3200 Background 5.5.2 Microdata 3200 Architecture 5.5.3 Microdata 3200 Microprogrammability 5.5.4 Microdata 3200 Microprogram Example 5.6 Other Computers with Diagonal Microinstructions 5.6.1 The Datasaab FPU 5.6.2 The MLP-900 5.6.3 The CONTROL DATA 5600 5.6.4 The Data General ECLIPSE Chapter 6 - Computers with Horizontal Microinstructions 6.1 Introduction 6.2 The Cal Data Processor 6.2.1 Cal Data Background 6.2.2 Cal Data Architecture 6.2.3 Cal Data Microprogrammability 6.2.4 Cal Data Microprogram Example 6.3 The PRIME 300 6.3.1 PRIME 300 Background 6.3.2 PRIME 300 Architecture 6.3.3 PRIME 300 Microprogrammability 6.4 The Varian 73 6.4.1 Varian 73 Background 6.4.2 Varian 73 Architecture 6.4.3 Varian 73 Microprogrammability 6.4.4 Additional Varian 73 Features 6.5 The Nanodata QM-1 6.5.1 QM-1 Background 6.5.2 QM-1 Architecture 6.5.3 QM-1 Microprogrammability and Nanoprogrammability 6.5.4 QM-1 Examples 6.6 The Burroughs Interpreter 6.6.1 Interpreter Background 6.6.2 Interpreter Architecture 6.6.3 Interpreter Microprogrammability 6.6.4 Interpreter Examples 6.6.5 Interpreter Applications 6.7 The Argonne Microprocessor (AMP) 6.7.1 AMP Background 6.7.2 AMP Architecture 6.7.3 AMP Microprogrammability 6.7.4 AMP Example 6.7.5 AMP Experiences 6.8 MATHILDA 6.8.1 MATHILDA Background 6.8.2 MATHILDA Architecture 6.8.3 MATHILDA Microprogrammability 6.8.4 MATHILDA Example 6.8.5 Additional MATHILDA Features Chapter 7 - Developments in Microprogramming Languages 7.1 Introduction 7.2 Register Transfer Microprogramming Languages 7.3 Higher Level Machine-Dependent Languages 7.4 Higher Level Machine-Independent Languages 7.5 An Evaluation of Developments in Microprogramming Languages Chapter 8 - Applications of Microprogramming 8.1 Introduction 8.2 Emulation 8.3 Program Enhancement 8.4 Executing Higher Level Language Programs 8.5 Operating Systems 8.6 Signal Processing 8.7 Graphics 8.8 Microdiagnostics and Fault Tolerance 8.9 Other Applications of Microprogramming Chapter 9 - Perspective 9.1 Overview 9.2 The Past 9.3 The Present 9.4 The Future 9.5 Concluding Remarks

24 years, 4 months

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PC MOS to PC DOS

by alan.townsend＠exgate.tek.com

How do I transfer data created by PC MOS in order for PC DOS (or windows) to be able to read it ?

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Anybody know what an Intel Series 90 is?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

The title says it all. Joe

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The CommodoreOne is near!

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 12, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > > the I/O is custom PLD logic that is impressive, if it is standard logic > > > > chips, that is great that he could find the chips in prototype > > > > quantities. > > > > > It's not a he, it's a she. :) > > > > or inbetween ? > > > Not a chance. From the pictures at http://www.commodoreone.com, she's a > cute little wisp of a girl. :) I wasn't going to mention it...but yes, quite cute indeed. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill

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TTL computing

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Franchuk [mailto:bfranchuk@jetnet.ab.ca] > The main reason I have never played with them is I could never find a > Fuse Prom Burner schematic that looked reasonable. I still > would like to > do a TTL computer with fused based proms ( or EEPROM's as modern > substitute )for control logic. I am just finishing up a nice > FPGA design At one point I considered making an "illustrative project" of building a pseudo fuse blown PROM out of several inline type fuses -- like are used in power supplies, for instance. It would be possible to illustrate not only electronically, but visually, the way that the ROM works. :) "The black ones are 0s... ;)" (or is that a 1?) Anything beyond a size of several bytes would be unmanageable, of course. I figured you might fit 64 bytes in the size of a VHS tape if you use small fuses. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Reminder: TCF 2002, May 4 and 5

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 12, Chris wrote: > > The Trenton MVA office is in Trenton (ahem) right off of Route 1, and > >is a fair distance from Edison where TCF is now held. There is likely > >an MVA satellite office in Edison but I couldn't guess as to where. I > >try to avoid Edison. > > Well.. I guess if the Trenton computer fest is really held in Edison... > then it doesn't really matter where the Trenton DMV is. When it was started, it was held at the Trenton State College campus in West Trenton. Then it moved to the campus of Mercer County Community College (*after* I moved out of the apartment that was nearly walking distance from there!)...now the Edison thing. > Alas, hitting the Edison DMV is useless. NJ only allows you to do the > initial NF (No Fee) registrations in person and in the Trenton DMV office > (they are the only one with the NF plates, and for some reason, they > require it to be in person rather than by mail). Yup. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill

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Reminder: TCF 2002, May 4 and 5

by mythtech＠mac.com

> The Trenton MVA office is in Trenton (ahem) right off of Route 1, and >is a fair distance from Edison where TCF is now held. There is likely >an MVA satellite office in Edison but I couldn't guess as to where. I >try to avoid Edison. Well.. I guess if the Trenton computer fest is really held in Edison... then it doesn't really matter where the Trenton DMV is. Alas, hitting the Edison DMV is useless. NJ only allows you to do the initial NF (No Fee) registrations in person and in the Trenton DMV office (they are the only one with the NF plates, and for some reason, they require it to be in person rather than by mail). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 4 months

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Paper tape encoding scheme needed

by bill_r＠inetnebr.com

I've been doing some web searching and reading the "TV Typewriter" book concerning puched tape encoding schemes, and I'm a bit confused. I've written a program to punch tape on my PC, and a short bit of code to read the tapes on my IMSAI 8080, but there are some problems. Since the unpunched tape leader looks just like a "zero" to the tape reader, I usually end up with some extra 0's at the start of my programs on the IMSAI. Also, I have a feeling that the tape reader may "eat" some of the codes if they're things like X-ON, X-OFF, etc, although I may be wrong. If I'm going to do something along the lines of using two 4-bit values to represent each byte, or an escape code to distinguish real 0's from leading blanks, and maybe include a full-width (FF) punch every foot or so to allow for easy folding, while having the reader software ignore them, I'd like to follow some kind of established standard. Can anyone give me any pointers on this? -Bill Richman (bill_r(a)inetnebr.com) Web Page: http://incolor.inetnebr.com/bill_r Home of the COSMAC Elf Microcomputer Simulator, Fun with Molten Metal, Orphaned Robots, and Technological Oddities.

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Native CP/M

by caprio＠dcms.com

I'm trying to build a development platform for my Imsai. I've tried various CP/M emulators but haven't found one I like yet. Has anyone sucessfully run CP/M on a PC without running under dos and/or windows? Thanks.

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Free MV3100/80 & Misc (Melbourne, .au)

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: FLTLT(AAFC) Geoff Roberts [mailto:co.614sqn@aafc.adfc.gov.au] > I think that means you may have a console password enabled. > Um. Bad karma. > There is an alternate procedure in the VMS System Management Manual > involving SYSUAFALT > you could give that a go. There's also an alternate alternate procedure that would involve not running sys$system:startup.com or whatever, and just trying to run "authorize," installing the proper images until it stops complaining about not having them ;) Of course, that's the long way around. The point is that if you've gotten as far as actually running that script, you can pretty much do whatever you like. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Half on, half off -- New CD-R drive and 512-byte blocks

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] > > didn't answer my email, and I really didn't feel like > playing telephone > > games trying to find the right number ;) > That's a darn good reason not to buy _anything_, in my world. But I > do like Plextor readers. They're much faster in large reads than > equally-rated other brands, and they seem to get a better sound out of > music CDs. Plus, they'll boot darned near anything. I like them too -- I waited a month and a half for somebody to talk to me about buying one... Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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Anyone know...

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Doc [mailto:doc@mdrconsult.com] > > can also use the conv=noerror option to ignore read errors if you > > really want whatever data you can get. > Um, I've not been successful with that option in Linux or in NetBSD. > I've tried it reading from damaged tape and from damaged CD media. dd > will keep trying... to read the same unreadable block. > If I missed the way around that, I'd really like to know. I'm not sure. I was under the impression that the errors were ignored and it kept going. This did make a good (AFAIK ;) copy of a disk that had some problems once for me... Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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The CommodoreOne is near!

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 12, Gene Buckle wrote: > > > > the I/O is custom PLD logic that is impressive, if it is standard logic > > > > chips, that is great that he could find the chips in prototype > > > > quantities. > > > > > It's not a he, it's a she. :) > > > > or inbetween ? > > > Not a chance. From the pictures at http://www.commodoreone.com, she's a > cute little wisp of a girl. :) I wasn't going to mention it...but yes, quite cute indeed. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill

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NEC Multispeed boot error... what now?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Rose, I still have my MultiSpeed (the original non-hard drive, non-back lit screen version). First you MUST have a good battery. I you don't want to buy a battery just for testing then you need to hook up a good regulated power supply (not a wall wart!) in place of the battery. The MultiSpeed that I have doesn't have the hard rive so I don't know if my DOS disk will work or not but it should at least get it to boot. I know where's there's a hard drive version of the MultiSpeed (MultiSpeed HD) and I may be able to get disks there. However IIRC the MultiSpeed is very IBM compatible and will boot and run IBM DOS. But IBM DOS won't have all the utilities. Joe At 04:07 PM 4/11/02 -0700, you wrote: > I am hoping you can send me in the right direction for restoring >this very old laptop that my father gave me. It is posting a message that >reads as follows: Fixed disk setup (1701) incomplete. Trying to >boot from A drive: Warning!! Fixed Disk Controller is bad or Low Power, > Can not boot up from fixed disk, insert system disk drive A or B… >Press any key when ready…. What precisely do I need to look >for when getting a system disk for this computer? It didn’t have >anything in the original bag it came with. The screen reads as follows >when I turn on the computer: Phoenix ROM BIOS Version 2.51 Copyright >© 1984,1985,1986 Phoenix Technologies, Inc. NEC Multispeed Please >offer any guidance you may have! Thanks for you time! Rose

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Questions regarding Tom Shoppa.

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 11, Carlini, Antonio wrote: > >Ok... I'll bite... what is that "peripheral"? Nukes or something? > > Not sure I remember this correctly > but I have a feeling it was something like > the Washington metro - where obviously > "Washington" is a code name for > some plausible east coast city that > actually does have a metro, just > in case my memory is failing again :-) That would make sense...Washington DC does indeed have a Metro, and last I heard Tim lived in Bethesda, MD, which is right off the DC beltway. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill

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PDP-11/34c website?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Is there a website somewhere that will tell me exactly how to > put the boards in an 11/34c? Someone gave me a working 11/34a. > It boots RT-11. I want to add the cache and floating point > boards. I've never had my hands on a UNIBUS machine before. Potentially stupid question, but isn't this still a PDP-11/34a? Is there such a thing as a PDP-11/34c? One place you might want to start is the PDP-11/34 User Manual at: http://www.spies.com/~aek/pdf/dec/pdp11/ Zane

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Reminder: TCF 2002, May 4 and 5

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 12, Sridhar the POWERful wrote: > > The Trenton MVA office is in Trenton (ahem) right off of Route 1, > > and is a fair distance from Edison where TCF is now held. There is > > likely an MVA satellite office in Edison but I couldn't guess as to > > where. I try to avoid Edison. > > What? You don't like Indian people? I'm fine with Indian people. It's just the whole "bullets flying overhead" thing that I just can't get used to...and they tend not to be fired by the Indian people. Weenie. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill

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Reminder: TCF 2002, May 4 and 5

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On April 12, Chris wrote: > What wonderful timing for you to post the reminder... THANKS! (now, does > anyone know if the Trenton DMV is anywhere near the fest grounds? Maybe I > can transfer my fire department's trailer registrations to NF while I am > down there so we can stop paying reg fees every year) The Trenton MVA office is in Trenton (ahem) right off of Route 1, and is a fair distance from Edison where TCF is now held. There is likely an MVA satellite office in Edison but I couldn't guess as to where. I try to avoid Edison. -Dave -- Dave McGuire "Hush and eat your vegetables, young lady!" St. Petersburg, FL - Mr. Bill

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PDP-11/34c website?

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Forgot to mention my website (a bit of promotion). Check http://home.hetnet.nl/~tshaj Click on the 11/35 console. Click on the PDP-11/34A link. Enjoy a little. Click on the *_folder_* PDP-11/34A. The tree open. Click on the CPU information. 2 subfolders appear. Click on these to get to some documents. Extra promotion. In the first page, click on the starfield. I have updated my StarShip website extensively. Have a nice weekend, all, - Henk. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Engdahl [mailto:jrengdahl@safeaccess.com] > Sent: vrijdag 12 april 2002 4:20 > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: PDP-11/34c website? > > > Is there a website somewhere that will tell me exactly how to > put the boards in an 11/34c? Someone gave me a working 11/34a. > It boots RT-11. I want to add the cache and floating point > boards. I've never had my hands on a UNIBUS machine before. > > I did some web searching, and found a series of messages from > when Megan did something similar, but it would be nice to find > this info all in one place. > > -- > Jonathan Engdahl Rockwell Automation > Principal Research Engineer 1 Allen-Bradley Drive > Advanced Technology Mayfield Heights, OH 44124 > http://users.safeaccess.com/engdahl jrengdahl(a)safeaccess.com > > "The things which are seen are temporary, > but the things which are not seen are eternal." II Cor. 4:18 > > >

24 years, 4 months

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OP SYS SETUP

by mikeykmc＠hotmail.com

WHERE CAN I FIND A FREE WIN OP SYS SETUP SOFTWARE FOR MY COMPAQ SLT286? IT ALREADY HAS DOS/WIN INSTALLED BUT I CANNOT ACCESS IT- WIN? WIN3.1? I DUUHHHH DUNNO....!!!

24 years, 4 months

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TSV05 supported in V7M?

by lists＠subatomix.com

Google tells me that the TSU05 interface board, itself a rebadged Dilog board, emulates a TS11. Does anyone know for sure if this emulation is good enough to fool V7M UNIX? Google also tells me that the TS05 is slow. Are there any other issues with this transport, such as tape eating, or might it be pretty dependable? -- Jeffrey Sharp The email address lists(a)subatomix.com is for mailing list traffic. Please send off-list mail to roach jay ess ess at wasp subatomix beetle dot com. You may need to remove some bugs first.

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