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74S409 (was Re: Anyone have a data sheet on the MC3242?)

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> [Driving DRAM] >> The number of populated banks affected the >> values of the resistors. > You should have split the resistance between banks. I was not the engineer. I was the stock boy. This was a long time ago. The engineer should have split the resistance between banks. 8^)= Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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CI networking, need some help debugging ...

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, I have now the two VAX6450s with CIBCA and connected through the star coupler. I was eager to see them talk IP through the CI but unfortunately it doesn't work. I'm under Ultrix 4.5 and I use ifconfig scs0 inet 192.168.17.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 on the one machine and ifconfig scs0 inet 192.168.17.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 on the other machine. If I check the status with just ifconfig scs0 It says it's up and fine. But ping self doesn't work and ping each other doesn't work either. From reading the scs man page, it mumbles something about host numbers having to be between 1 and 15. But I have no clue what they mean. I don't know my CI node numbers either. I'm wondering if I should know those and configure them somehow. I also wonder if this SCS IP has some arp? Would be really cool to have tcpdump for Ultrix. What's the best way to step by step get a CI system debugged? thanks, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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Festival of Inappropriate Technology??

by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

This event seemed sort-of on topic... look here: http://www.xcom2002.com/ Did any of the UK list members attend this? Any reports?

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Anyone have a data sheet on the MC3242?

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

I'm stripping interesting parts off of these stat mux boards that I recently got around the corner - lots of socketed 6502s and 65c02s, 2532s and the like. Many of the boards have a 24-pin DIP MC3242 which I can find little about - Google only gives me one meaningful hit that it's a "Motorola Mux and Refresh". I'm trying to determine if it's worth desoldering any. I'm currently using a hot-air desolderer, so it's not a _lot_ of effort, but, for example, I'm not bothering to pull the popcorn TTL parts, just memory and "interesting" parts. So... anyone have any information on the MC3242 and why I might want to save a couple dozen of them? -ethan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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[OT] measuring DC wall wart

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> > Not everyone has 2N3055s lying about. They don't?!? Glen 0/0

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OT, private response: Need Windows XP help

by foo＠siconic.com

Is there anyone here fairly expert at Windows XP installations that I can bounce a few questions off of? Please reply private to <sellam(a)vintage.org>. Thanks! Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Test results of SCSI devices on MicroVAX 3100

by bob_lafleur＠technologist.com

I've accumulated a stack of external SCSI-2 devices that I thought I'd try out on my MicroVAX 3100. All devices show during a SCSI bus scan >from the console prompt, and as devices when VMS 7.3 was booted from the internal hard drive. But they worked with varrying degress of success. Here are the results: "GENERIC CD-R CRD-800S" - This is an 8x CD-R (not CD-RW) drive; it reports as "GENERIC" but it really is a Sanyo CD-R CRD-800S. I've even updated it with the Sanyo firmware and it still reports as "GENERIC". I tried to boot the mini-VMS in SYS1 of my VMS 7.3 CD-ROM. Boot failre right away. Booted VMS from the hard drive, and tried to mount a CD-ROM, and I got invalid media format. "Yamaha CD-R 400c" - This is a 4x CD-R drive. I tried to boot the mini-VMS and it started to boot, until after it asked for the date & time, then it went into mount-verificiation mode, and just hung. I booted VMS from the hard drive, and tried to mount a CD-ROM disc and got the same message as with the CRD-800S - invalid media format. "Toshiba XM-3401TA" - Just a plain old CD-ROM drive, I think it's a 2x. I could boot the mini-VMS in SYS1 from it, and when I booted VMS from my hard drive, I could mount CD-ROM discs fine. No problems with operation at all. "MATSHITA LF-3000" - This is a 128MB MO (magneto-optical) drive, it's in a box badged "Optical Access International" and I originally purchased it for my Mac - it has always worked fine on the Mac. From the console prompt, a TEST F1 (SCSI OPTION Utilities) device scan showed it with a device name of JK (JKB400 in my specific situation) and the device type shows as "OPTDISK" but when I booted VMS from the hard drive it showed as a DKB400 device. I tried it INIT a disk, and got a "media is offline" error. I've had similar results trying to make this drive work on the PC - it is recognized fine, but when I try to use it, it seems to go away. Maybe there is newer firmware for it that corrects the problem, but it isn't a major issue at this point. I do find it strange that the console shows it as a JK device, but VMS shows it as a DK device. "TK50Z-GA" - Of course, it worked without a problem. Has anyone tried a Travan 4 SCSI tape drive? Specifically, the HP SureStore T4? - Bob

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Mounting CD/tape devices inside MicroVAX 3100-90

by bob_lafleur＠technologist.com

I'm not really sure how the RRD43 that's in my MicroVAX 3100 is attached... There appears to be a metal bracket that's part of the system, with screws going into the sides of the RRD43... Or is that an integral part of the RRD43? I have space to mount a second drive, and I might like to put a tape drive in. But I don't see where I would screw it in... Do I need some sort of mounting bracket? If so, does anyone have any spares?? Thanks for any tips. - Bob

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[OT]: anti-spam for classiccmp members

by philpem＠dsl.pipex.com

Hi, Just wondering - are there any measures in place on this list to stop spammers harvesting our e-mail addresses from the list archive? How about locking the archives and only allowing access to list members (or just set the user and password to "classiccmp") Later. -- Phil. philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/

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RA82 belt tension adjustment, how?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, I just tried to spin up my RA82. Problem is the motor starts for a moment and then stops. Fault light comes on. Pressing the fault button and "B" flashes. I assume that my RUN button light is not working, so then the indicator pattern indicates a spin error. How can I fix that? I suppose it is the belt tension. I only have the RA81 maintenance manual, and although they are pretty similar, the belt tension stuff in the RA82 is not at all like what is described in the RA81 maintenance manual. Someone here knows how that is done? Or what else could be causing this spin fault? (I see that the motor starts but it is stopped within a second after it started.) thanks, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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can you check the behavior of your KDB50 during booting?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, I am having a problem around the KDB50 of one of my VAX6k's and need your help. If you boot from a KDB50, could you check if the yellow indicator LEDs turn OFF for the moment that the drive is first accessed? I am getting the error, device not accessible. I could boot from that same path before until the moment that I connected another RA92 and an RA81 and I switched the drive unit numbers of two of my RA90s around. After I swapped those unit numbers I can't get any of the drives to boot any more. My fear is that somehow the KDB50 is dead. So, next time you bood your VAX through a KDB50, plese watch the yellow indicator LEDs closely. Mine go on in the early initialization process and stay on throughout the self test. Then when the boot sequence is entered those lights go off for a few seconds, the red FAULT light goes on at the console. After one or two seconds the yellow indicator LEDs go back on and FAULT light clears. Then the typical blink pattern of the little red LED is engaged, but at that time the VAX is already halted with that I/O error. thanks, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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[OT] measuring DC wall wart

by mythtech＠mac.com

>It does sound a _little_ high, but it might be OK. Try loading it (A 100 >Ohm wirewound resistor would do, for example). See if that brings the >voltage down to nearer 9V. I tried a 100k Ohm since I didn't have a 100 Ohm, no effect. I don't have a bulb or anything handy to try with that. I think I am going to dig out the modem it goes to, and test the voltage with it hooked to that. That will at least give it real use load (the modem powers up just fine, it just fails to respond to all AT commands except for getting the firmware, and it won't attempt to go off hook or dial... I'm not 100% convinced the modem is really "dead" so much as it just doesn't want to co-operate). Thanks to all those that responded... I knew I could get some good answers here. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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[CCTECH] New Finds This Week

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Well its been a little slow this week but here goes: 1. A IBM 3745 Communication Controller with keyboard, monitor (IBM 3151), various cables for it, and a Diagnostic Descriptions manual. Cost was $15 total. 2. 4-Mac SE/30's; 6-Mac Mac SE FDHD's; 3-Mac Classic's; and 1-Mac SE. These I will be trading or selling for $2 each. I wanted a Mac LC 630 that was part of the lot and had to take it all. 3. Toshiba T1000 not test yet. Cost $1 4. Xscribe XEC5 cpu only no power adapter. It was free. 5. Apple IIgs WOZ limited edition. It was free 6. PowerPC 5200/75LC and 8500/120. $25 for both 7. IBM 2.02 Technical Reference manual for the XT. 8. "Bowling" Interchangeable cartridge for the Microvision in the box. 30 cents at a thrift. 9. Atari 1027 printer and 1050 FDD were $1.91 each at thrift. 10. HP-85 Owners and programming manual. $1 11. IBM 9533 model DB7 computer 12. Plastic box with diskettes from Xerox for the 6060 family of computers. _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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new finds :-)

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Went to a small local hamfest this morning and came home with a Z-80 trainer made by E&L Instruments (remember the Bugbooks?), a Gunnplexer cookbook, a HP-15C with manual, HP-18C with manual and four HP Solutions books, and a HeathKit Most Accurate Clock II with manuals (receives time code from WWV and sets itself automaticly. Has LED display and serial link to connect to a computer). Passed up a TRUCK LOAD of Amigas and other Commodore stuff for $10. Not bad for an hour of looking :-) Does anyone have the manual for the E&L Z-80 trainer? It's mounted in a black plasic case and is marked "The Fox" and also model MT-80Z. It has two circuit boards, a bread boarding area, a Std Bus expansion connector, a keypad and six digit LED display. Joe

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I hate Radio Shack

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Those kids get paid minimum wage and >know minimum when it comes to anything other than cell phones and >stereos. Last I knew around here... they get paid on commision with the Manager being the only one with an hourly pay. And that goes a LONG ways to explain why they don't *want* to care about the little $1 and $2 components, but would rather sign you to a DirecTV or Cell Phone, or MSN service. It is the only way for them to make any real money out of the place. At least the local Rat Shack that I go to isn't too bad to deal with service wise. The reason being is these guys like I said above, don't care about the little parts, and really don't want to waste time helping someone with them. That is time wasted that they could be trying to convince someone to buy a high priced item or service or anything that might make their weekly pay check come close to that of a McD's burger flipper. That works out in my favor. I can walk in to the store, head right to the misc parts section, and watch every sales goon turn around and walk away >from me. From them, NO help is GOOD help. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Corvus Omninet... TRS-80?

by florit＠unixville.com

I have a TRS-80 I got from Weird Stuffwhile I was living in Silicon Valley. It was the last few left from what aparently was a school 'Please take these dinos away' disposal. Its a model IV, but has no drives. I was tempted to gut the case, create some sort of adapter for the keyboard to connect it to an internal PC mobo and replace the monitor as well. Needless to say I never got around to it. Its in working condition, (turns on, goes into basic, keyboard works) but the case is showing its age and exposure to the elements. While I was in the process of taking it apart to clean it up, I saw two butterfly nuts with a piece of what seemed a cut off telephone cable, 2 leads. I asked on the trs80 newgroup and they mentioned that it could be a now little known networking card for a system, Corvus Omninet. This would explain the diskless condition of the TRS-80, as it would load up its files over the network to do anything interesting besides load up the basic rom. Since I didn't hack the TRS80 into the abomination I was thinking of, I would like to sell it (cheap! take it off my hands! I've too many computers) to someone more interested in it; mail me offlist: florit @t unixville.com Anyone have a server for this setup? Definitely cool on the unknown factor. Louis PS: I also run The Unofficial Timex Sinclair 2068 website at http://www.timexsinclair.org

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China bans toxic American computer junk

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 05:42 PM 6/7/02 -0500, you wrote: >Didn't see anyone else mention this story, though it isn't exactly >front-page news... > >China bans toxic American computer junk: > http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,725756,00.html > >Maybe this will help save just a few systems... > >-Toth Yes, but I fear we'll soon be swimming in computer scrap. The amount of scrap that we've been exporting is tremendous. Joe

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[CCTECH] Interesting tidbit on 6502

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 7, 13:05, Richard Erlacher wrote: > You may be confused about this. I don't know of a single NMOS 6502 that > didn't adhere to the MOS-technology instruction set. There's no telling > whether that included the undocumented opcodes, but since Synertek and > Rockwell used the MOS mask set, I suspect there was no difference. The later > Synertek parts may have been different since they shrank the die and got a bit > more speed, offering a 4 MHz 6502-C, which was an NMOS part and worked > perfectly in NMOS-targeted systems that didn't work with the later CMOS parts. There certainly were differences between the sets of undocumneted opcodes >from different manufacturers of 2MHz 6502A parts. I remember one or two "clever" bits of software that failed on some BBC Micros for that very reason. Sean is absolutely right to avoid undocumented codes. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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[CCTECH] An interesting link...

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

http://www.netbsd.org/Changes/#port-pdp10 Dunno anything about it, but it should be on topic... Bob _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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MC6800 Datasheet

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Richard, Does anyone have a PDF copy of the Motorola 6800 chip datasheet? I downloaded a copy from somewhere yesterday and the strangest thing happens. When viewing the PDF, it shows on the screen as a positive image but when printing, it prints as a negative. On the print page make sure 'Print as image' is ticked. This should fix the -ve image. Lee. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This email is intended only for the above named addressee(s). The information contained in this email may contain information which is confidential. The views expressed in this email are personal to the sender and do not in any way reflect the views of the company. If you have received this email and you are not a named addressee please delete it from your system and contact Merlin Communications International IT Department on +44 20 7344 5888. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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[CCTECH] Interesting tidbit on 6502

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk > >> >Not on the 6800 but I believe some FORTH chips have that problem. > >Incidentally, some Xilinx FPGAs will spectacularly overheat if fed bogus >configuration data. You can get 2 internal buffers driving the same line >in oposite directions. The CAD software is supposed to never generate >such a configuration file, of course, but if there's a bug in the >software, or the data is corrupted on download to the chip, it can >happen. Don't ask how I found that out. > > >> Instructions that would continuously increment the address >> are vary useful for debugging address decoding problems. > >True... > >> On an 8080, about the only useful sequence is to have >> a pop and jmp, using 4 locations. > >What's wrong with forcing a NOP (00) onto the databus. That should make Hi This does require that you have full control of the bus. I have used the 00H as well as the 0FFH. When you have a partially working bus, running code is prefered because simply pulling the ROM may not always work Some broken device may inject and instruction and break the loop. It is good to have all three methods of running addresses in your tool box. It is too bad that the simple 00 and 0FFH codes don't work for all processors, like the 8080's. Dwight >the PC increment from 0 to 0xFF. Or force RST38 (0xFF) onto the databus. >That will cause repeated fetches from location 0x38 with memory writes of >39 00 to every 16 bit word of memory in decreasing address order -- it's >pushing the return address (0x38+1 onto the stack, of course). Both >instructions are easy to force and have very recognisable effects on the >bus lines. > >One of the tests for the TRS80 Model 1 (Z80 based) is to pull the ROMs. >The databus is pulled high, so the CPU should execute RST38s. It writes >the return address to the video memory (as well as user RAM, of course), >giving a display of alternate '9's (0x39) and '@'s (0x00 -- the TRS-80 >video display circuit ignores bit 6 IIRC). > >-tony > >

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[OT] measuring DC wall wart

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Hey, you know what? I missed the beginning of this thread, but this is >exactly the sort of behavior you get from a modem which requires a 9V AC >power supply, when you run it with a 9V _DC_ supply. Interesting. The wall wart I used with the modem is the one that was in the box along with all the other assorted parts. The wart has a label marking it as the same manufacturer as the modem, so I didn't even think about the fact that it might not be the RIGHT wart. Maybe it is really >from a different model modem. I didn't persue the issue much since the modem is a Global Village for a Mac. They are great modems... IF you have the right software. Without it, they tend to be a pain in the ass. Since I don't have the exact software that shipped with this model, and since the firmware claims it is a French-Canadian modem, and I only have US-English software... I didn't waste much time working on it. But maybe I will do a little more research and see if it really should have an AC adaptor, not a DC one. Thanks -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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VMS doesn't recognize all physical memory?

by carlos_murillo＠epm.net.co

Hello everyone; I have noticed that OpenVMS 7.2 doesn't seem to recognize all of the physical memory in my vaxstation 4000/60; I am sure that I have 32 MB (8MB mainboard + 6 x 4MB modules) and in fact it is recognized by the prom: KR46-A V1.1-31E-V4.0 08-00-2B-2A-F8-AB 32MB ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| OK 85 RESTART SYS >>> >>> show config KR46-A V1.1-31E-V4.0 08-00-2B-2A-F8-AB 32MB DEVNBR DEVNAM INFO ------ -------- ------------------------------- 1 NVR OK 2 LCG OK HR - 8PLN FB - V1.1 3 DZ OK 4 CACHE OK 5 MEM OK 32MB = SY=8MB, S0/1=8MB, S2/3=8MB, S4/5=8MB 6 FPU OK 7 IT OK 8 SYS OK 9 NI OK 10 SCSI OK 0-ST31200 5-TZ30 6-INITR 7-CD-ROM 11 AUD OK >>> Similarly, the TEST 100 command tests all of the hardware and there aren't any errors. So, as far as the diagnostics in the Prom are concerned, the system has 32MB of memory and it tests OK. But, this is what I get under OpenVMS: $ show memory System Memory Resources on 6-JUN-2000 16:25:53.84 Physical Memory Usage (pages): Total Free In Use Modified Main Memory (16.00Mb) 32768 8459 22775 1534 Virtual I/O Cache Usage (pages): Total Free In Use Maximum Cache Memory 11 0 11 51649 Slot Usage (slots): Total Free Resident Swapped Process Entry Slots 48 25 21 2 Balance Set Slots 43 23 19 1 Dynamic Memory Usage (bytes): Total Free In Use Largest Nonpaged Dynamic Memory 1359360 103552 1255808 12480 Paged Dynamic Memory 717824 435488 282336 434448 Paging File Usage (pages): Free Reservable Total DISK$VAX4000SYS:[SYS0.SYSEXE]SWAPFILE.SYS 6240 6240 7200 DISK$VAX4000SYS:[SYS0.SYSEXE]PAGEFILE.SYS 55557 15536 65536 Of the physical pages in use, 10827 pages are permanently allocated to OpenVMS. So, what is happening here? Does anybody have some suggestions as to why OpenVMS doesn't see/want to use the remaining 16MB? Best regards,, Carlos. ________________________________________ Acceso r?pido a Internet con Epm.Net http://www.epm.net.co

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Gold in IBM KB's ?

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Two 84-key AT keyboards sold on eBay yesterday for $122.50 and $127.50. >Now I know how I'm going to pay the house note next month. Cripes, and I just gave away two of them to go with the two ATs and matching CGA monitors I gave away. Good thing I still have a supply of them I can sell -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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[OT] measuring DC wall wart

by mythtech＠mac.com

This is off topic, since the wall wart is only a few years old, but there are some great electrical people here, so I am asking because I know someone will know the answer. I have a wall wart to a modem. I got the modem and wart in a box of used stuff (ooh, some of which was more than 10 years old, so at least there is a reference to on-topicness). The modem failed to work from the day I got it. Today, someone that has the same modem asked if I had a power supply they could have. I planned to give them mine, since I have no real use for it. But before I mailed it to them, a voice went off in my head telling me to stick it on a meter first. It's label says it is a 9vDC, 400mA Pos-tip wart. But when I hook it up to a meter, I get 15v DC off it. That seems a little high, even for something under no load. Should I safely assume the wart is no good, and point the person elsewhere (Rat Shack sells a usuable unit for only about $14, so it isn't like the person has no other choice). Or is it normal for a 9v supply to put out 15 volts? Any that I have measured in the past have not been THAT far off (I was expecting to maybe get 10 or 12 volts, but not 15). If this thing has been pumping too much voltage, that might explain the dead modem I have (or the modem could have been used as a soccer ball, who knows, it was dead when I got it). I just don't want to send the person a bad supply, and have them fry their modem when they try to use it. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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MC6800 Datasheet

by rcini＠msn.com

Hello, all: Does anyone have a PDF copy of the Motorola 6800 chip datasheet? I downloaded a copy from somewhere yesterday and the strangest thing happens. When viewing the PDF, it shows on the screen as a positive image but when printing, it prints as a negative. Thanks. Rich Rich Cini Collector of classic computers Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ /************************************************************/

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I hate Radio Shack

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 05:00 PM 6/7/2002 -0400, Corda Albert J DLVA wrote: >What annoys me is when they give horribly incorrect advice. I stopped >by a local radio shack earlier this week to price out some RG6/U for >a new DirecTV dish that I was cobbling together. I needed about ~350 >feet of cable. The sales droid insisted that I'd needed to buy three >in-line amps, and install them all at the dish ... (I guess he knew >enough rudimentary english to read the amp packaging, and extrapolate) >What bothered me the most, though, was the authoritative manner in which >he described what I had to do. It took quite an effort to keep from >laughing in his face... Yeah, but if he'd described putting them in-line the right way, would that even work? Is there enough power there to handle three amplifiers, and wouldn't the noise obliterate the signal eventually? - John

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Gold in IBM KB's ?

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Two 84-key AT keyboards sold on eBay yesterday for $122.50 and $127.50. Now I know how I'm going to pay the house note next month.

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Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Well the copy of the OS that I have is an OEM copy of Netware 1.1, so that would be why I said 1.1, I try to avoid sticking the proverbial foot in the mouth when possible ;p Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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I hate Radio Shack

by CordaAJ＠NSWC.NAVY.MIL

What annoys me is when they give horribly incorrect advice. I stopped by a local radio shack earlier this week to price out some RG6/U for a new DirecTV dish that I was cobbling together. I needed about ~350 feet of cable. The sales droid insisted that I'd needed to buy three in-line amps, and install them all at the dish ... (I guess he knew enough rudimentary english to read the amp packaging, and extrapolate) What bothered me the most, though, was the authoritative manner in which he described what I had to do. It took quite an effort to keep from laughing in his face... BTW, I bought the coax somewhere else, just on principles... -al- -acorda(a)1bigred.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Gene Buckle [mailto:geneb@deltasoft.com] > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 4:12 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: I hate Radio Shack > > > Damnit John, you beat me to it. :) > > g. > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, J.C. Wren wrote: > > > Radio Shack: "You have questions, we have blank stares." > > > > --John > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org > [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]On > > Behalf Of Bob Lafleur > > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 15:38 > > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > Subject: RE: I hate Radio Shack > > > > > > I've decided that Radio Shack has one reason for existance; to sell > > pre-paid cell-phones to low-lifes. Every time I go in there, all the > > sales people are occupied with selling a pre-paid > cell-phone to someone > > who has such bad credit that they can't get a regular > cell-phone. Then > > when they finally get to me, I ask them for an adapter, or cable, or > > something and they look at me like I'm crazy. "I've never > heard of such > > a thing" they say. If it's not a pre-paid cell-phone, they > have no clue. > > > > > > >

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[OT] measuring DC wall wart

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Since the output connector is one of those cross-shaped plugs (with a >2.5mm jack plug, 3.5mm jack plug, 2.1mm coax power connector and 2.5mm >coax power connector) along with a separate 1.3mm coax power connector >(used for personal stereos I am told) and a 9V-like battery clip, it's >very easy to get accidental short circuits just by having the separate >connectors touch each other. Therefore IMHO the PSU has to be safe under >short-circuit conditions. They are not. > >And the plastic cases are very brittle and canf break, exposing live >parts. Unplugging one that's been accidentally kicked, for example, is >not easy. Not saying the ones in the US are safe or good, but they are not like the one you describe. They are a white plastic, rather "soft and durable" material. You can smack then and kick them and step on them, and they stay in one peice. Also, they don't sell that cross tipped one like you describe any more (at least I haven't seen one in a long long time). Rather, all of them end in a jack, and they include one tip of your choice (for most, some include multiple tips). So you pick the connector style you need, and then that plugs into the jack on the cord. It is marked on the cord with "TIP" and the connector has a "+" on it, so you can align it for either positive or negative tip. Fairly decent setup, and so far, all their newer style white ones (they have been selling them for a few years now), have held up well, at least for me. As to short circuits and how safe they are... I can't really say. I've never opened one, and I can't think of a time that I have done anything other than accidentally set a multi-voltage one to the wrong voltage and watched my device get toasted (leaving the power wart just fine of course). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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TS-816 setup

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I'm having a bit of trouble geting my new 'shiny' Televideo TS-816 up and running. It hangs trying to IPL from the hard drive, and I can boot off a tape, which gets me diagnostics. The diagnostics look like this: ----------------------------------------------------------------- Self-testing in process. (TS-816/40 PROM V1.1) Hit "ESCAPE" Key to boot from Tape ? System IPL from Tape Drive in progress * TeleVideo Systems TS-816/40 Restore disk image from tape, V1.3 14 Megabyte on 1/4" tape cartridge Do you want to run disk diagnostic? ("Return" if NO, "Y" if YES) Y ** SELECT DIAGNOSTIC WINCHESTER HARD DISK ?? ** ----------------------------------------------- Type "I" to select Internal winchester hard disk Type "E" to select External winchester hard disk Type "A" to Abort the diagnostic mode I <--- Select the function above ** DIAGNOSTIC FUNCTIONS ** -------------------------- Type "R" to select Read-test Type "W" to select Write-test Type "F" to select Format disk Type "A" to reselect winchester hard disk <--- Select the function above ----------------------------------------------------------------- It would appear that it's having a problem using the internal hard drive. I don't have a spare sitting around to replace it with, and the cables look all securely fastened. Also, the drive seems to be spinning just fine, and I've cleared the two 'locks' on the bottom for it before trying to use it. Does anyone have suggestions for troubleshooing this problem? I'm knowledgable in electronics and can drag out my o'scope if I need to. Also, can I hook up a 5-1/4" MFM or RLL hard drive up to this thing? It's a TS-816/40 (I'm guessing 40MB drive), what should I look for (C/H/S) in a replacement drive? -- Pat

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[CCTECH] Interesting tidbit on 6502

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Ben Franchuk" <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca> > >Loboyko Steve wrote: >> >> I'm building a 6800 machine right now and I was >> wondering about this "Halt and Catch on Fire" >> instruction. Is this for real. This is a serious >> question. Is there actually an instruction that will >> overheat the chip? > >Not on the 6800 but I believe some FORTH chips have that problem. >This instruction for the 6800 if remember right just continually >increments the address bus, ignoring any data read. Only a hard >RESET will reset the machine from this state. I think the opcode >is $00. > Hi Instructions that would continuously increment the address are vary useful for debugging address decoding problems. On an 8080, about the only useful sequence is to have a pop and jmp, using 4 locations. It may have been that the 6800 one was a debug instruction that was designed in. Dwight

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FBI Computers?

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 06:51 AM 6/7/2002 -0600, Feldman, Robert wrote: >Now that the FBI is going to modernize its "antiquated" and "out of date" >computer system, does anyone know what kind of equipment we might see reach >the surplus market? (I don't expect many working hard disk drives.) On Wisconsin public radio yesterday, they were blaming some amount of 9-11 on Louis Freeh's "I hate computers" policy, and some talking head claimed that agents were so disgusted by the slowness of their "386s and 486s that wouldn't even be accepted by churches as donations". - John

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FBI Computers?

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Now that the FBI is going to modernize its "antiquated" and "out of date" computer system, does anyone know what kind of equipment we might see reach the surplus market? (I don't expect many working hard disk drives.) Bob

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OpenVMS license expiration date

by rdd＠rddavis.org

Greetings, This afternoon I registered my DECUS^H^H^H^H^HEncompass membership number with Montagar software for OpenVMS. By the way, not knowing the CPU ID of my VAX, I entered a '?', and that satisfied their registration script. The last time that I attempted to register with Montagar, my Encompas membership ID number was rejected, so I didn't get a CD-ROM back then. A short while ago, an e-mail arrived with the license to use OpenVMS; alas, the license expires in one year. Will this expiration date have any effect on the useability of the software after the expiration date? -- Copyright (C) 2001 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)rddavis.org 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.rddavis.org beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

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Monitors for Vaxstation

by bob_lafleur＠technologist.com

What kind of monitors can be used with the Vaxstation models (2000, 3100, etc)? I know there are different flavors of Vaxstation graphics - monochrome, "GPX", etc. Which is the easiest to deal with monitor-wise? Can an adapter be built to use a standard multi-syncable VGA monitor? Thanks for any info. - Bob

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Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Don't forget that the Televideo PM-16 runs an OEM version of Netware 1.1 or so... Will J _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Source for Jiffydos for Commodore 64-SX?

by florit＠unixville.com

I've a Commodore 64-SX (the portable) and I was toying with the idea of updating its kernel/bios/rom/whateveritscalledonthere so that it could stretch out the life of its floppy drive. There was a company called CMD that produced a replacement called JiffyDOS that worked around lots of the slow repetitive speed transfer problems >from the disk drives. It doesn't seem like they're selling the chips anymore. Anyone have a source for these, or failing that, someone have a recipe for doing this sort of thing? L

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Commodore floppy drives; faster than you can type

by sieler＠allegro.com

Hi, I recall reading a line on/near/inside a Commodore 64 SX box advertising that their floppy disk drive: "Reads data faster than you can type". Is my memory playing tricks on me, or did Commodore really use such a line (or something quite similar)? Any pointers would be appreciated. BTW, I wasn't convinced that it *could* read data faster than I could type :) thanks, StanStan Sieler sieler(a)allegro.com www.allegro.com/sieler/wanted/index.html www.allegro.com/sieler

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Monitors for Vaxstation

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> All of my VAX and Alpha systems use a serial console attached > to a DECserver 90M (even the systems with graphics cards and > monitors attached). I'd *LOVE* to be able to do this, unfortunatly, I don't have a DECserver that supports this. Someday.... Zane

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Monitors for Vaxstation

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> What kind of monitors can be used with the Vaxstation models (2000, 3100, > etc)? I know there are different flavors of Vaxstation graphics - > monochrome, "GPX", etc. Which is the easiest to deal with monitor-wise? Can > an adapter be built to use a standard multi-syncable VGA monitor? Thanks for > any info. > > - Bob > I'm not sure about the 2000, or the 3100's, however, I've successfully attached a Multisync monitor to my 4000/vlc, and I believe either my 4000/60 or 4000/90. Of course I used a DEC cable with BNC connnectors to hook up to the monitor. Personally I prefer a VT420 on my VAXen to a Monitor. I even end up using a VT420 on most of my Alpha's. Zane

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Monitors for Vaxstation

by bob_lafleur＠technologist.com

What kind of monitors can be used with the Vaxstation models (2000, 3100, etc)? I know there are different flavors of Vaxstation graphics - monochrome, "GPX", etc. Which is the easiest to deal with monitor-wise? Can an adapter be built to use a standard multi-syncable VGA monitor? Thanks for any info. - Bob

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This seems on topic for this group and is > 10 years old...

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi I doubt you'll find a computer inside. This is a scale model for wind tunnel testing, not a complete shuttle. Dwight >From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > >At 11:22 AM 6/5/02 -0500, you wrote: > >Re: This seems on topic for this group and is > 10 years old... > > > What kind of computer does it have in it? > > joe > > >>Title of item: 1984 BOR-5 Russian Space Shuttle Proto-Type >>Seller: kruseintl >>Starts: May-28-02 14:40:59 PDT >>Ends: Jun-07-02 14:40:59 PDT >>Price: Currently $75,200.00 >>To bid on the item, go to: >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1832679719 >> >> >>Item Description: >> >> >> >>1984 BOR-5 Russian Space Shuttle Proto-Type >> >> > >

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Wanted: Kaypro 2'84/2x

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> > Are you certain that it's going to be harder to repair the existing > machine than to find a replacement (as an aside, I've never seen a Kaypro > _anything_ in the UK). That's a shame! A couple of years back I asked the classiccmp list what was the "best" CP/M machine, and the overwhelming answer was "Kaypro." I like mine. It's rock-solid, and applications, compilers, etc. are easy to find. The disk i/o is slow, though. > From what I've heard, though, Kaypros are pretty > standard circuitry and shouldn't be hard to repair. Yes. I have the 84/2X schematics and I'll be happy to scan and email them to the OP if he/she will contact me offlist. Glen 0/0

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Motorola S-record converter source for new project

by fmc＠reanimators.org

ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote: > If it's that much work to get it to compile, it's going to be less work > to write my own from scratch. Hence my review alongside the pointer. I was turned onto this thing by someone who likes to run a recent release from Red Hat, and look what it got me: a reason to do that OS upgrade I'd been putting off. Once I did that, getting SRecord to compile was as easy as I'd been expecting, and it even worked and did what I wanted done. I expect that most folks running Linux/*BSD have installed or upgraded within the last two years and so have a sufficiently new version of gcc at this point, but I also expect that you (and other folks on this list) might not. -Frank McConnell

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ID these DEC cards?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Can anyone tell me what these cards from a DEC PDP-11/04 are? I've identified some them but I'm not they're correct. (1) M2763 (2) H-222A (16k x 18 core memory) (3) H-222A (16k x 18 core memory) (4) Advanced Control Corp. card with two FMI (Function Module Inc) 9685 Digital to Analog Convertors (5) same as 4 except it has two Burr Brown DAC-800-CBI-V convertors (6) M7856, (7) M9312 (Boot Strap Terminator? Exactly what does it do and why does it have four terminals on it?) (8) M7228 (KW11-P Real Time Clock). Joe

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Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System

by kees.stravers＠iae.nl

On 2002-06-05 cctalk(a)classiccmp.org said >On Wednesday 05 June 2002 06:46 pm, you wrote: >> Wow, that's cool. I didn't realize Novell started on the 68000. >>Did it serve files for a PC network? How similar is the NOS to >>later versions of Netware? >That early it probably served files for a CP/M workstations. Indeed it all began with networking CP/M computers. Around 1981 Novell came to the market with their first networking product, called S-net. It was a star based network around a specialized server machine with a 68000 processor and a proprietary NOS. It is this machine we are talking about now. You could connect CP/M machines and PCs to it. Around 1983 the first version of Netware appeared, called Netware-86. This was a multitasking file-, print and application server software package that ran on the PC XT. I do not know what the exact functionality of S-net was, but I believe it was multi-user file sharing only. Kees. -- kees.stravers(a)iae.nl My site about the DEC VAX computer Geldrop, The Netherlands http://www.vaxarchive.org http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/ is now back up. Member of Insomniacs Anonymous Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Registered

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A British piece

by zlep＠zlep.net

today i picked up the same Poket Terminal. did somebody find any information about this unit? what type of interface the connector is? It seems, that someone modyfied the connector of my unit, because one cable is cut, and the connections of the others are completely different than that of don's unit. can somebody tell me wich cable(color) is connected on wich pin on the original connector? -zlep

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Wanted: Original Novell 68000 System

by kees.stravers＠iae.nl

On 2002-06-05 Marvin Johnston wrote: >Curt Vendel wrote: >> Anyone have on the original Novell 68000 based systems for >> sale/trade? >Actually, I have two systems including a hard drive subsystem with >IIRC 2 Rodime 40 MB very noisy hard drives. Is it possible to take a few photographs of these machines and publish them somewhere? I also collect old Novell stuff, and I have an old original Novell machine too, but it already is a 286 made by Hyundai. (http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/cm/lroom2.html) I also have an old key card that you needed to have in your server as a sort of anti piracy device or otherwise your system wouldn't work, that was used by the first pc versions of the Netware server system (http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/cm/lroom4.html) When Novell was in the hardware business it also sold diskless pc workstations with the ne1000 and bootrom already on the motherboard, also made by Hyundai. (I do not have pictures of those) But I have never seen one of the old 68000 server machines. Thanks, Kees. -- kees.stravers(a)iae.nl My site about the DEC VAX computer Geldrop, The Netherlands http://www.vaxarchive.org http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/ is now back up. Member of Insomniacs Anonymous Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Registered

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FW: OpenVMS hobbyist license

by bob_lafleur＠technologist.com

This is the E-mail that I sent, and the message I received when inquiring about VAX hobbyist media. -----Original Message----- From: David L. Cathey [mailto:davidc@montagar.com] Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 6:49 PM To: bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com Subject: RE: OpenVMS hobbyist license >I am interested in obtaining the OpenVMS hobbyist license, but I see >from your order from that it is SOLD OUT. Do you plan to have another >version available soon? If not, is there another way I can obtain an >OpenVMS license for hobbyist use? Thanks for any information you can >provide. Licenses are still available, it's the media kit for VAX that is sold out. I'm not sure when we'll get new ones in at this time. However, you can still register for licenses and use borrowed media to bring your VAX on-line. If you need an Alpha, we still have several Alpha kits left. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - David L. Cathey |Inet: davidc(a)montagar.com Montagar Software, Inc. |Fone: (972)-423-5224 P. O. Box 260772, Plano, TX 75026 |http://www.montagar.com

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Wright Punch in Hawaii

by brian＠quarterbyte.com

Hi folks, There's a sealed-bid surplus lot for sale on www.govliquidiation.com with a Wright Line manual card punch and two paper tape readers of unknown provenance -- the only snag is they're in Kapolei, HI (Oahu). http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=60013 Might be a good catch for someone in the Islands. brian =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _| _| _| Brian Knittel / Quarterbyte Systems, Inc. _| _| _| Tel: 1-510-559-7930 Fax: 1-510-525-6889 _| _| _| Email: brian(a)quarterbyte.com _| _| _| http://www.quarterbyte.com

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WTS: old windows versions

by pat＠purdueriots.com

If anyone's interest, I have my Windows 1.03 auction up on eBay. This will hopefully help fund some projects I'm working on... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2030077275 I still have copies of Windows 2.0 and Windows/286 (version 2.1) that I'd like to get rid of, but will offer to the group before I think about eBaying them. $20ea gets it. They're the original install disks.. email me off list if interested or you want a photo or something. All the disks read properly in a 1.2M DSHD floppy drive. -- Pat

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Fwd: Thanks for files

by Fritz_Chwolka＠t-online.de

==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE================== >Return-Path: <arlen.michaels(a)sympatico.ca> Just want to thank you for making the old manuals and image files available on http://oldcomputers.dyndns.org/public/ I found things here (like the IMS information) I have been hunting for years. I am still looking for documents etc for some other IMS S-100 boards dating from around 1980-84: - A862 Z80 CPU - A930 Floppy Controller - A821 Winchester Controller - A1100 Winchester Controller - A1021 64K RAM You don't by any chance have files for these, do you? :) Best wishes, Arlen Michaels arlen.michaels(a)sympatico.ca ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== Greetings from Fritz Chwolka - Duisburg / collecting old computers just for fun at www.alterechner.de \

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OT: eBay insanity

by pat＠purdueriots.com

It's OT, but here's a humorous bit of eBay Insanity to cheer up everyone's morning (or afternoon or evening depending on time zone) ... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1357633571 -- Pat

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TI optoelectronics datasheet

by tothwolf＠concentric.net

I've got a couple Texas Instruments DIS1291's, and can't find a datasheet for them. If anyone has a TI optoelectronics databook from around 1981 or so and could put up a scan of the datasheet, I'd be most grateful. These displays are made up of 6 tiny numeric displays in an extra long (20 pin length, 1") 16 pin dip package. -Toth

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Still pineing for my own VMS machine

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

Well what's the cheapest way to get into somthing running real VMS? Even for a single user (can I connect it to my home network and telnet to it from linux) (wishing for authorize just one more time....) BTW I have PC-DCL (HMM gotta look up the source on that to see if it can be a linux shell.....) Ron.

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Still pineing for my own VMS machine

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>> 5.5 is available on CD, it's just not easy to get. > >If I had it, I wouldn't be asking. :-) Do you mean 5.5 or 5.5-2? I certainly have the latter (as, I expect, do many others) and I may have the former. Assuming you have a hobbyist licence and can find wherever it is that says given the licence, you can have someone make you a copy, then I can cartainly do that - although you may find it easier to get someone in the US to do it for you. >Is that a DEC (HP) product or Freeware? LDDRIVER was a midnight project by an engineer inside DEC and is now on the Freeware CDs (and is accessible on the Web from the OpenVMS home page - browse the latest online Freeware CD). >> Actually on second thought this would probably be easiest on a SCSI based >> VAX with an RZ25. > >How about a SCSI-based Alpha? If you want to build a bootable VAX disk (even just S/A BACKUP then using aVAX and a container file is by far the easiest way). You can pull apart STABACKIT.COm >from a VAX distribution and see what it does and replicate by hand - but it's a fair amount of work! > And how about an RZ26 that isn't more than >65% full? If physical size really matters, I could throw an ST1480 >drive on the Alpha and have 424MB - plenty of room for this task. The trick is to use a container disk that is no more than 650MB (or 700MB). The problem is that your RZ26 has too much room and you have no control where things go unless you work at it very hard - it's just *so* much easier to use LDRIVER and a container file (on your RZ26 if you like). >Would it be a problem for cross-platform? I know it's easy to make No - just cluster a VAX with you Alpha for a while and let it take the strain :-) Antonio

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Motorola S-record converter source for new project

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 5, 23:59, Tony Duell wrote: > If it's that much work to get it to compile, it's going to be less work > to write my own from scratch. Intel Hex is hardly complex [1] and all I > need is binary -> hex (so I can transfer files to my EPROM programmer...) > which is the easier direction in general. > > [1] And I even have an Intel manual giving a semi-official version of the > spec... There's a flat-ASCII copy of the Intel spec, including type 3,4, and 5 records, for 8-, 16- and 32-bit formats, at http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/IntelHEX/hexspec.txt as well as my simpler description at http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/IntelHEX/IntelHEX.txt I'm sure you could just use James' code (plain C, no fancy C++ or other complexities, and quite small) at http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/IntelHEX/ihex.tar -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Still pineing for my own VMS machine

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>The Hobbyist license allows you to make copies of >DEC/Compaq media, however, I'm not sure if it allows >you to make copies of the Hobbyist CD's. At http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/terms_and_conditions.txt it states that you can make *one* archival backup for yourself of the Hobbyist media. I don't see anywhere that states that you can copy that media for other hobbyists (which, admittedly, you didn't claim it said you could do) nor do I see anywhere that states that anyone else can copy something for you. Antonio

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Still pineing for my own VMS machine

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> >Is it legal to distribute an ISO file of that to people with >a hobby license? I have the later Hobbyist CD, but would >love to have a copy of the original one. No idea. I'm pretty sure I've seen trustworthy people indicate that this can be done and that the licence allows you to get media anyway you can, including copying. If you can find a statement to that effect on either the montagar webpage or somewhere in the OpenVMS web pages, that'll do for me. Quite how you convince anyone that you have a hobbyist licence is another matter. Antonio

24 years, 2 months

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Any familar with "Disk-A-Tape"?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Is anyone here familar with a device called Disk-A-Tape? It's paper tape emulator that uses a HH 5 1/4" floppy disk drive. (The drive is mounted in a filler plate that fits in a mount for a HH 8" floppy drive). It mounts in a 19" rack and is about 8" tall and 12" deep. Besides the drive, it has a reset pushbutton, an Init/Job toggle switch, FWD/Rev toggle switch, Read/Write toggle switch, Emulate/Off/RS-232 toggle switch and a small 8 digit LED display and an AC power switch on the front panel. On the back it has a DB-25M and DB-25F connectors. There are two circuit cards in them, one small one and a larger wire wrap card. I haven't taken it apart and looked at the ICs on the boards yet. I picked up two of these today, mostly out of curiousity. They came out of what looked like some kind of CNC machinery controller. There was also a DEC PDP-11/04 in one of the chassis. BTW I was searching the net for info on this and found this <http://www.fastec.com/xdisk/> instead. Interesting but I'm not sure it's it's related to what I have or not. joe

24 years, 2 months

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Replacement tube for IBM 026 Printing Card Punch

by mhscc＠canada.com

IIRC, the pile of punch card equipment manuals I sent to Norm Aleks included the 24/26 Operating Manual, the 24 Series Customer Engineering manual, and schematics for the 24 and 56, and Norm did solemnly promise to scan these and make them available on the Web; why not drop him a line. mike ------------Original Message---------- From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> To: Classic Computers Mailing List <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Subject: Replacement tube for IBM 026 Printing Card Punch So I'm off to look for a 25L6 tube for my IBM 026. <snip>

24 years, 2 months

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Still pineing for my own VMS machine

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>ISTR hearing mention a while back that the remote diag console on the 6K >VAXen spoke a flavor of serial DECnet. Any experience with something like >that? It would be useful, or at least interesting, to provide a remote >console for them. The remote diag consoles spoke (I guess) plain serial between the console and the local DEC Remote Diagnostic Console box and some undocumented, secret (and now probably forgotten) protocol between the RDC and its partner unit at the support centre. As for running DDCMP over the console line, it's probably possible but usually not a good idea (the console line is usually deliberately pretty dumb, the principle being that it's harder to screw up that way). Antonio

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Motorola S-record converter source for new project

by fmc＠reanimators.org

ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote: > Earlier this evening I was thinking about a project that will involve (in > part) translating binary to/from IntelHex (or Motorola S-record would do, > actually). Can you give me a URL for that source code you mentioned (or > any other source code for a simular program). http://www.canb.auug.org.au/~millerp/srecord/srecord.html My recollection is that when I first tried to install SRecord version 1.5 (a couple of years ago) I found that it was written in a sufficiently new dialect of C++ that it didn't want to go down the gcc 2.7.mumble that I was running on the intended FreeBSD box. One short upgrade of FreeBSD later I had a newer version of gcc in the base system and it was building and running SRecord. #include <rant/c++/moving-target> -Frank McConnell

24 years, 2 months

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Still pineing for my own VMS machine

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Sounds close. Maybe a DMR11 for Unibus? (We didn't have one for >Qbus) I know that machine also had a DMR11 but I'm pretty sure that was a high speed parallel interface. My docs are not handy, so I'm not going to swear to it. >Why do bugs matter? In that machine's case, because I was using it to support the Phase IV and Phase V WAN Drivers code on OpenVMS VAX. In the general case, because they've paid for my house (either because I had to fix other people's or because other people paid me to generate them :-) ) > Antonio

24 years, 2 months

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[CCTECH] Motorola S-record converter source for new project

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 5, 0:09, Tony Duell wrote: > > S-records. There is a nice source code file that exists for reading/writing > > Intel HEX files but I haven't been able to find a similar one for S-records. > Earlier this evening I was thinking about a project that will involve (in > part) translating binary to/from IntelHex (or Motorola S-record would do, > actually). Can you give me a URL for that source code you mentioned (or > any other source code for a simular program). Ages ago, I wrote a "loader" that will convert Intel HEX records to binary, on a Unix machine (or about anything else with a C compiler). It's quite powerful, being designed to handle multiple files, sparse files, patch files, etc, for EPROM programmers. I planned to make a whole set of HEX -> binary, HEX -> S-record, S-record -> binary, etc, but I never quite finished. Most of this has been available on my web site for a while, and I've just added a couple of files for anyone who wants them. http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/IntelHEX/ IntelHEX.txt is a simple explanation of comon HEX records (as used by CP/M and some programmers, for example) S-records.txt is a similar explanation of S-records (not written by me) ihex.tar is the source/manpage for a binary-to-HEX converter, written by my friend James Carter mload.tar is the source/manpage for my HEX-to-binary and S-record-to-hex converters, along with some notes. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

24 years, 2 months

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Still pineing for my own VMS machine

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> >Is it legal to distribute an ISO file of that to people with > >a hobby license? I have the later Hobbyist CD, but would > >love to have a copy of the original one. > > No idea. I'm pretty sure I've seen trustworthy > people indicate that this can be done and that > the licence allows you to get media anyway > you can, including copying. If you can find > a statement to that effect on either the montagar > webpage or somewhere in the OpenVMS web > pages, that'll do for me. Quite how you convince > anyone that you have a hobbyist licence is > another matter. > > Antonio The Hobbyist license allows you to make copies of DEC/Compaq media, however, I'm not sure if it allows you to make copies of the Hobbyist CD's. Zane

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Still pineing for my own VMS machine

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> > 5.5 is available on CD, it's just not easy to get. > > If I had it, I wouldn't be asking. :-) It would be really nice if someone could make the first Hobbyist CD available. As far as I'm concerned the V2 CD is basically worthless (OK, I confess that's becuase I've plenty of real Compaq/DEC kits), however, the V1 CD has all kinds of cool stuff on it as well as various versions of VAX/VMS between 5.5 and 6.1. > > What you want instead of mkisofs is something called the "Logical Disk > > Driver", IIRC. That allows you to create a CD sized ODS-2 logical disk > > that you can copy stuff onto. > > Is that a DEC (HP) product or Freeware? Freeware. Check the FAQ, it's probably got pointers. > > > Actually on second thought this would probably be easiest on a SCSI based > > VAX with an RZ25. > > How about a SCSI-based Alpha? And how about an RZ26 that isn't more than > 65% full? If physical size really matters, I could throw an ST1480 > drive on the Alpha and have 424MB - plenty of room for this task. I'm not sure what it would take to build standalone backup on a disk attached to an Alpha, or if it's even possible. As for a RZ26, I suspect you'd have some major problems, however, I don't know for sure. The ST1480 would be a safer choice. > Would it be a problem for cross-platform? I know it's easy to make > a disk on your own machine bootable to standalone (SYSE and whatnot). > I guess given the DCL script to make the standalone partition in the > first place, it wouldn't be impossible to modify it to pull from > someplace other than SYS$SYSROOT. By cross-platform are you talking VAX vs. Alpha, or VAX vs. PC? In either case I really don't know, the VAX vs. Alpha concerns me. > Pity it probably won't fit on a ZIP disk - I'll have to physically > move a drive from machine to machine. I think for V5.5 you'll need roughly 150MB for the full install (at least IIRC it will fit on a RD54). > That's the easy part. I'll probably do it on SPARCstation instead of > an Intel Linux box, but that's no big deal. Hmmm, I like that idea! I think you just pointed out how I can save some space! Zane

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Still pineing for my own VMS machine

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>None. We either had a two-board Unibus set that provided an >intellegent DDCMP connection (forget the model number, but *boy* >were they expensive when they first came out) Might that have been the DMV11? I had one hanging off the UNIBUS of the VAX 8350 for a while. Luckily noone ever logged a bug so I never had to fidn out whether it worked or not :-) >had one anyway), but it was hard on the CPU. We did have some >old Qbus sync ports (DPV11?), but we never attached a MicroVAX The older one was indeed the DPV11. The newer, spiffier and more expensive one was the DSV11. Antonio

24 years, 2 months

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Gandalf DOV 640

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I've got a pair of these Gandalf DOV 640's (Data Over Voice units) and I was wondering... 1) Is there a difference between 'master' and 'slave' units? I have a pair of what is marked 'slave' units. 2) Does anyone have a manual for these or can anyone tell me what the RDL and TL switches do, along with the dip switches inside? I'm not sure this things strictly meet the 10-year rule, but they should at least be close to it. Thanks for any info! -- Pat

24 years, 2 months

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Integra Systeme 2/5

by hansp＠aconit.org

Anyone know anything about the Integra Systeme 2/5. Most likely a French OEM. We just picked one up in a 6ft rack with a tape drive, two removable disk drives, a Kennedy 9218 Format Control Unit and a Kennedy 1629 Half Duplex Interface. We are told the system orginially came with 8 terminals. I have not had chance yet to see how the units are identified inside the cabinet. From the front panel switches the processor is a 16 bit mini. Any further information is welcome -- hbp

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Still pineing for my own VMS machine

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>My best VAX processor is either the 8200 or a MicroVAX-II. Neither >have Ethernet at the moment (I'm working on getting a DEBNT going). The easy option is to buy or borrow a DELQA - but I think we've been there before :-) The alternative is to have someone who does have a VAX running V5.5-2 and sufficient disk space to build you a 650MB disk container file with OpenVMS V5.5-2 S/A BACKUP on it, drop it on a 700MB CD (or build a 700MB container file and zip it up and drop that on CD) and post it to you. Then you pop the CD into your Alpha and copy off the resulting container file, connect an LD device to it and just add files to [000000] until cooked. Then take that and burn to CD. If you had asked about two years ago I could have done that easily. Right now I have no VAX running V5.5-2. Why does your S/A BACKUP have to be 5.5-2? Will not V7.2 do? All you want to do is boot and install whatever version of OpenVMS you have put togetehr, no? Antonio

24 years, 2 months

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SURVEY: Powering big iron in your home.

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

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24 years, 2 months

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SURVEY: Powering big iron in your home.

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, I wanted to conduct some survey of the common practices (which may or may not be good practices) to powering your very own mini and maxi big iron in your home. I think this topic may be embarrassing so PLEASE let's wait 10 days or so before flaming and blaming each other for our risky ways of squeezing the last amp out of our feeds. I would hope that in the end we could summarize in a calm and sensible way what the general suggestions might be to a safe but reasonable way of running equipment. Here I go then. As you know, I have two hot-spots: (1) 2 VAX 6000-460 and 8 to 10 RA90 and 2 RA8x and one HSC90 that I run in my basement. I have a dedicated 60 A 220 V 4-wire line going right into that room. I have terminated that line in a circuit breaker box and feed the computers with a 25 A 220 V line. This is about 6 to 9 foot cable of AWG #10 that I run without a metal conduit. (The other breakers feed German household stuff that we still have in use here and there.) I noticed that when I have everything on, the 25 A breaker gets warm. Fairly warm. Not hot, but markedly warm. I made sure the wires are screwed very tight and the breaker is seated right, but still it gets warm. That worries me a bit. Also, I think that my #10 wire is under-dimensioned after all. Since all the consumers are essentially doing some (more or less) good job of load balancing, eventually the neutral wire gets quite a bit of load, possibly beyond 25 A. Theoretically up to 50 A. So, I should have used #8 or even #6 then. However, the practical problem is that you can't fit #6 wire into a breaker contact screw. And even #8 is going to be on the low end with 50 A. The best thing would be if neutral was twice as thick here. I am considering to put in two lines in parallel from the same breaker through the same conduit (if any) the outlets very close together. (2) The VAX 11/780, UNIBUS, TU78, and TE16 in the garage. They run off the same line (so that line is no longer dedicated.) I spliced a branch off with split bolts and lots of electric tape. for insulation. The branch terminates in a dedicated box with the original outlets. The initially #8 AWG is distributed through #10 wires to the various outlets. Even some #12 to the two standard 110V outlets in that box. My concern there is, of course, that (a) the split bolt construction may develop resistance and increased heat dissipation. Also (b) the way I downsize and distribute the #6 feet to smaller wires in the outlet box may lead to overcurrent if the devices aren't connected where they should. I did my best to have the big suckers on thick AWG and shorter length than the moderate consumers. On the other hane, turning the VAX 11/780 on is an extremely rare event right now and will probably be in the future. Some hours per week perhaps. I was concerned about what to do whe I have my VAX party (when everything works.) If we want to turn it all on at the same time, something might happen... I regularly check the warmth of that breaker downstairs and now that that spplit-bolt tap is insulated I can check that for heat. But it's nothing I want to run 24/7 without attention. So, I know I have to do something about it. I usually take the circuit off line when I am done with it. The problem of course is that to do it properly would require upgrading the main feed, replacing the main breaker panel running thousands of new wires, and sub-panels, where each machine essentially has its own breaker, and of course the outlets and plugs need to be all proper. Easy to spend $2000 or more in material and labor for that upgrade. For equipment we run a few hours per week. I'm really interested in hearing how others with minis do it. (If you don't have a mini yourself but want to teach the dangers of electricity and the demands of the NEC, please hold off for 10 days, O.K.?) Any good or bad example is welcome. regards, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

24 years, 2 months

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Old Sony Optical Drive

by scotto＠attbi.com

Hello all, I just acquired a "PLI Infinity Optical Disk" which is actually a Sony SMO-C501-00 magneto optical drive. I believe the firmware is v2.13. Does anyone know if I can make this drive work under Windows98se? I have no drivers. When I connect it to my SCSI card (Jaz Jet Ultra), it shows up on the SCSI chain. I have it set as device #4. But when I insert a disk, it spins up, then down, then up, then down, etc. etc. etc. There are a bunch of DIP switches on the back of the drive, between the SCSI ports. They are all set to "ON". Any help would be appreciated. -- Scott Orlowski Elizabeth, PA scotto(a)attbi.com http://scotto.home.attbi.com

24 years, 2 months

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Still pineing for my own VMS machine

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>I have a box of VMS 4.x and VMS 5.x magtape and standalone TU58s and >RX50s. I want to create a CD-ROM that acts like a VMS 6.1 CD for >installation under, say, simh. I know I can extract saveset files, etc., >to install VMS under simh. I want to package the savesets in a >more modern fashion and save a step or two at install time. I assume you have access to a VMS box that can read the relevant media. If so you can create a container disk using LDDRIVER (or one of the many other equivalent freeware utilities). Then use VMSINSTAL to extract the savesets (all the savesets) to [000000] on this disk. You may or may not have to manually intervene since VMSINSTAL depends on saveset naming conventions that may not have been applied in the V4 days. Assuming you fill in the blanks above, you will end up with a bunch of valid savesets in [000000]. You can now use STABACKIT to make the LD disk bootable into Standalone BACKUP. (If you feel like it, you can put a complete OpenVMS system on there ... you might as well since your kits *must* reside in [0,0] to work!!). Now disconnect and dismount the LD disk and burn the contianer file to CD as a block-by-block binary (CDR-Win and Gear can both do this, Easy CD cannot AFAIK and Nero and Clone CD I have not used enough to have a worthwhile opinion). You can, assuming you are set up to do this, burn directly from OpenVMS with CDRECORD. >Is this possible? I have a SCSI CD-R drive (Smart & Friendly 2006, a >rebadged Sony 926) and SCSI magtape on an AXP/VMS box. I presume >there is a version of cdrecord for VMS, or an equivalent. Is there an >ODS-1 or OSD-2 equivalent of mkisofs for VMS? Does there have to be? For the above method you do not need mkisofs since you are building an ODS-2 disk. If, however, SIMH won't accept an ODS-2 CDROM, you'll have to do a binary FTP of the savesets to a PC and burn >from there (although how SIMH can cope with the result, I do not know) or pick up the OpenVMS mkisofs (I have a pointer somewhere ...) and use that directly. Antonio

24 years, 2 months

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SURVEY: Powering big iron in your home.

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> I wanted to conduct some survey of the common practices (which > may or may not be good practices) to powering your very own mini > and maxi big iron in your home. I think this topic may be Well, the biggest I've got in our apartment is my PDP-11/73, and a couple of PDP-8's. They're small enough they plug into a normal wall socket. Oh, there is also the VAX 3500, but I've not even plugged it in to see if it works. Hmmm, then there is the really big 'computer', does a 4 slot Neo Geo Arcade machine count as 'Big Iron' :^) Or is that 'Big Wood' :^) However, in my folks garage I've got my PDP-11/44 with a pair of RL02's. Since the system is supposed to have a 15A feed, my Dad built a 'extension' cable that plugs into one of the sockets next to their washer & dryer (not sure why they've a spare socket). It's been a few years since he built it, however, I remember that he built it useing parts that were spec'd at 15+ amps. The only problem with this is you can't do laundry while the PDP-11 is running. Now my question is, what are you doing about cooling? I know the /44 will get my folks garage up to a comfortable temp fairly quickly in the winter, and it can only be run in the morning in the summer. Zane

24 years, 2 months

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Diagnosing a non-working Mac Performa 476?

by mythtech＠mac.com

>When I power up the system, with monitor attached, the internal cooling >fan spins up, the hard drive spins up (and sounds normal), and the >machine chimes what I seem to recall as being the regular start up sound >for this era of Mac. However, the display remains dark. If I power off >the Mac, leaving the monitor on, the monitor makes a light >static/crackle noise; it's the sort of sound I normally associate with a >monitor that's lost the video input signal. I've played with the >brightness and contrast controls without any success. Your start up bong should be a single smooth tone. If it is a "melody" of any kind, it is not a startup bong, but rather chimes of doom. The melody will tell you what may be the problem. The first thing is to check the PRAM battery. Many Macs will not start properly with a dead battery. If it is dead, Radio Shack stocks all 3 kinds used in Macs (but ironically, standard PC CMOS batteries are special order). I don't recall if the Performa 47x used the square 4.5 volt, or the 1/2 AA 3.6 volt. I think it might be the 1/2 AA, but either way, it will be pretty obvious when looking at the logic board. Also, press the CUDA button on the logic board (again, I don't recall off the top of my head if the 47x has one, but I think it does). This will be a small red button on the logic board. I seem to recall on the 47x it was either near the ports on the back of the board, or near the front by the floppy and HD connections. But again, it might not be there at all. The CUDA button will do a deep hardware reset, this will clear any screwed up hardware settings it might have (and is usually recommended to do after changing PRAM batteries, or adding or removing cards). Finally, if none of that works, disconnect the HD and floppy. You should get at the very least when no drives are connected, a grey screen with a disk with flashing question mark. If THAT doesn't work... do you have access to another Mac? Can you make a known good bootable floppy disk? (you can download a 7.5 disk tools image >from Apple's web site). Build a disk, and put it in the drive (reconnected drive that is), and try to boot from it. If your system is working, but the monitor is dead, you will head the Mac doing a bunch of accessing of the floppy drive as it boots (They will boot fine with no monitor attached). But with all this, I suspect the problem will be a bad PRAM battery, or a need to press the CUDA button. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 2 months

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[CCTECH] Motorola S-record converter source for new project

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: I'm starting a new project...an emulator for the Altair 680b. So, I'm collecting random bits and pieces of code that I might need to implement it. What I'm looking for now is source code to read/write Motorola S-records. There is a nice source code file that exists for reading/writing Intel HEX files but I haven't been able to find a similar one for S-records. Does anyone have such a thing? Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile) _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

24 years, 2 months

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[OT:] "VGA loop cable" pinout for Hauppauge WinTV Prism

by Arno_1983＠gmx.de

Hello guys, this item is almost certainly not to be considered "classic" yet, but it also isn't "leading edge" any more, is it? I'm asking here because even with hours of googling, I wasn't able to find a pinout for the missing cable and I figured that somebody on the list might have the thing and be willing to meter it out for me. The installation procedure tells you to disconnect the monitor >from your graphics card, connect it to the TV card and plug the loop cable into the graphics and the TV card. It is the exterior cable that I didn't get (DE15HD -> Mini-DIN-7); I have the interior "feature connector" ribbon cable. If you could tell me which pins to connect, I should be able to solder a replacement cable. Many thanks in advance Arno Kletzander Arno_1983(a)gmx.de -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net

24 years, 2 months

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KC/Topeka prowling with Mr. Rigdon

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

Returned to my last gold mine in Topeka; Joe and I found some nice stuff. With his sharp eyes he found more Amiga memory & SCSI cards for me. He went home with some S100 memory cards, and a B&H (black) Apple II. I came home with another C64, two 1541 drives, another Ozzie I with modem, and miscellaneous Apple II cards and documentation. Surplus Exchange(in the west Bottoms) had the goodies cordoned off; I believe they are throwing out the vintage stuff and rearranging the salable PC stuff. Had a find time killing the day. My thanks to Joe and his sharp eyes; what he found really made my day. Gary Hildebrand St. Joseph, MO

24 years, 2 months

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Replacement tube for IBM 026 Printing Card Punch

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Look at the wiring. If it looks similar to what is on the other 25L6's, you should be OK. You should check the grid voltages on all of these tubes. Incorrect bias can cause excess plate disapation. This will shorten the tube life to minute/hours. See below for pinout: http://www.nostalgiaair.org/scripts/showbase.dll?TYPE=25L6&BASE=7AC later Dwight >From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com> > > >So I'm off to look for a 25L6 tube for my IBM 026. John Lawson says that >the tube is a 25L6 because all the other tubes in the rack are 25L6 types >and he believes they are hammer drivers. Not to doubt the venerable >Mr. Lawson, since he did used to service these, but I just want to make >sure this is in fact the right tube type that goes into the socket that is >currently empty. See photo here: > >http://www.vintage.org/gallery.php?title=IBM%20026%20Printing%20Card%20Card… unch&grouptag=IBM026 > >I'd hate to plug in the wrong tube and then witness volumnious >amounts of smoke billow from within the machine. Can someone verify that >the 25L6 is indeed the correct tube for the empty socket? > >Thanks! > >Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org > > * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com * > > >

24 years, 2 months

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Possibly OT: IBM 4224-01 printer question

by msspcva＠yahoo.com

Hi: I think the subject of this message isn't quite 10 years old yet, thus the "OT". I've got two IBM 4224-01 printers I recently acquired >from a company going out of business. Both units exhibit the same problem/symptom - when I power them up, the LED display will flash, the fan just starts to spin up, and then - nothing. It seems to die off completely. Since both are doing this I thought I'd ask the list to see if there's something else I need. Both of these have Twinax interfaces, which I'm not familiar with at all - I've tried connecting a T-connector to one of them to see if it's some sort of termination problem, but see no difference in behavior. My purpose in getting these is to resell them, so I'd like to know if they work or not so I can price them. Any help appreciated! -- Frank ===== = M O N T V A L E S O F T W A R E S E R V I C E S P. C.= Clayton Frank Helvey, President Montvale Software Services, P. C. P.O. Box 840 Blue Ridge, VA 24064-0840 Phone: 540.947.5364 Email: msspcva(a)yahoo.com ============================================================ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

24 years, 2 months

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[CCTECH] Unknown terminator identification

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Hello gents. Considering all of the old DEC equipment, and other old hardware that is, and has been, in use here in my building, I'm fairly positive this terminator falls in the 10-year rule... I have here a terminator of some sort. It's a male 37 pin (DE37?), the hood is black plastic, no identifying marks on it. Only " CONTACT 11.2964 075 " on the metal shroud that surrounds the pins. Inside is one of those orange circuit sheets, with an blue rectangle chip on it. The chip is marked... 14-3- 221/331 *B 8418 ... there is 106027 on the end of the sheet, with REV. B on the side. The logo on the sheet looks like a stylized MB. Here's what the pinout is... Chip - Connector 1 - 21 2 - 20 3 4 - 16 5 - 14 6 - 13 7 - 1 8 - 29 9 - 22 10 - 23 11 - 24 12 - 25 13 - 26 14 - 27 Any ideas what it is, and what its for? Anyone? -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

24 years, 2 months

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re-keying an RS/6000 lock?

by fernande＠internet1.net

I just picked up an RS/6000 7012-320H this weekend from Sean Caron. It seems complete, but I haven't tried to power it up yet. It's currently keyless. How hard would it be to re-key it to use the key from my 7013-530? I've never tried such a thing. Anybody done it, or tried it? Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

24 years, 2 months

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Finds

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I got a few things today at Purdue Salvage: Copies of a few old copies of Microsoft Windows on original disks (Windows 1.x, Windows 2.0, and Windows/286 (2.1)), along with a copy of Microsoft Word 4.0 (for DOS). Does anyone have interst in a having a copy of these? Also, is there a chance that it'll catch me any money on [faint of heart turn away] eBay? I don't have the boxes or manuals, but it looks like I have a complete set of disks. I also got a VT220 (no kb, unknown condition) so I can have another VAX console to use... Amazing what you can get for free, eh? -- Pat

24 years, 2 months

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The prices on ebay are going UP

by CordaAJ＠NSWC.NAVY.MIL

Actually, I'd prefer not to find a box included with one of my discoveries... I have virtually no storage room left for my systems, and cardboard boxes take up a _lot_ of space. I would really prefer not to be put in the position of throwing away something that I recognize might be of some historical value, simply because I have to devote my remaining space to systems, not packaging... (It can definitely be a guilt trip ;-) -al- > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Smith [mailto:csmith@amdocs.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:06 PM > To: 'cctalk(a)classiccmp.org' > Subject: RE: The prices on ebay are going UP > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > > > I don't get it either. I have no interest in cardboard boxes. > > I _use_ my > > classic computers, I don't keep them in boxes... > > Well, I agree, but I'll say that I find original boxes, which > usually contain advertising material of the day, interesting > in a historical side-note sort of context. Certainly not > something to influence a purchase decision, but possibly an > interesting bonus. > > Chris > > > Christopher Smith, Perl Developer > Amdocs - Champaign, IL > > /usr/bin/perl -e ' > print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); > ' > >

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The prices on ebay are going UP

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] > I don't get it either. I have no interest in cardboard boxes. > I _use_ my > classic computers, I don't keep them in boxes... Well, I agree, but I'll say that I find original boxes, which usually contain advertising material of the day, interesting in a historical side-note sort of context. Certainly not something to influence a purchase decision, but possibly an interesting bonus. Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '

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The prices on ebay are going UP

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Did everyone see the IBM 5100 that just sold for $5,656 item #2026242813 ( what can I get for my two 5110's ?)and the Lisa I the sold for $10,000 item #2026966399. So one got me at the last minute on a Hasbo Think-A-Tron in orig box went for only $38.50. I was out this morning when it sold. Also a Mac 128k went for around $1250 and I'm setting on about 10 of those things but not in the shape this one was. And Mr. "aek" took me out on two mainframe books that I had the high bids on. All-in-all a bad day on ebay for me (lost five and won 1).

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makeiso.exe for Windows 98

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

I would like to set up an image of a CD in a hard disk file. I understand that makeiso.exe does this in UNIX. Does anyone have an executable version for Windows 98? Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

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Diagnosing a non-working Mac Performa 476?

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Someone mentioned a CUDA switch on the motherboard for >clearing the PRAM, but the closest thing I can find is an unidentified >pair of jumper pins in rough proximity to the battery. No the CUDA switch is a button. Don't go jumpering unknown wires (not that you planned to I am sure). I just popped the top on an LC 2, no switch. So there may not be one on the 476 either, I would verify, but both my 475's are in use at another location. >I tried the >command-alt-p-r thing with the existing batteries without luck, but >then there's no Alt key on this particular keyboard (Apple Keyboard II). There is no ALT on the Mac. Some keyboards have "Alt" inked above "Option" on the OPTION key, because Apple wanted compatibility with PCs, but in all cases, it is "Option" when talking Mac-speak. So you would press Command-Option-P-R. Hold these down right after hearing the startup bong, and continue to hold them until you hear the Mac bong again. It is recommended that you do this until it bongs 3 times total (just keep holding them down). I don't know exactly why, but that is what Apple's TIL suggests. In the event you are doing this on a soft-power Mac, (and more specifically a PowerBook), rather than going BONG and starting the boot again, the Mac may go BONG and then turn off. That is normal behavior on most PowerBooks most of the time, and occasionally on soft power Macs (ones that don't have a physical power switch, but rather you have to use the Power Key on the keyboard... the 476 is NOT one of them). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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The prices on ebay are going UP

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Eek, does that mean that I shouldn't print out items? Hehe.. Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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The prices on ebay are going UP

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I dunno, I never really run into classic computer boxes, but then again, since I care mostly about minis and larger, thats probably why.. Personally, I use boxes to house manuals, sorted materials for recycling, and refuse until I put it in the dumpster. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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[CCTECH] Unknown terminator identification

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

! From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] ! ! > ! >... ! > ! > I have here a terminator of some sort. It's a male 37 ! pin (DE37?), ! ! DC37M. The Second letter is the shell size. Each shell size normally ! exists in a standard and high-density version : Okay. Noted. And printed out & posted on my corkboard here, for future reference... :) ! ! > ... The chip is marked... ! > 14-3- ! > 221/331 ! > *B 8418 ! ! Read the 221/331 as 22*10^1/33*10^1. In other words 220 ohms and 330 ! ohms. A standard pair of values for a terminator circuit. ! > Any ideas what it is, and what its for? Anyone? ! ! No idea. Assuming the resistor network has power on the ! corner pins (1 ! and 14) then it's only terminating 11 lines. There aren't ! many interfaces ! using 11 lines that need termination, are there? Well, anyone's guess is better than mine... --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1.2 - Darwin Kernel Version 5.2: Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Amiga A2000 POST

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

When powering on, the power LED flashes 10 times then a long flash, and repeats. Nothing else plugged in, no floppy, keybaord, mouse or cards. Anyone remember what that means??? Gary Hildebrand St. Joseph, MO

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Wanted: CSA T805 Transputer Boards

by craig-c＠campbellsci.com

My company is interested in purchasing working CSA T805 transputer boards. If you have some to sell, please email me. Thanks, Craig Christensen Campbell Scientific, Inc craig-c(a)campbellsci.com

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Looking for OMT Inc. Board

by lemole＠peoplepc.com

Hi all, I am looking for a OMT Inc. Model 5300 or Model 5400 disk/tape controller. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jerry Curles

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Wanted: Kaypro 2'84/2x

by winnderfish_falls＠yahoo.com

My Kaypro 2'84 died. I need a replacement as this was the only CP/M machine for the display. A donation of a working 2'84 or 2x would be greatly apreciated, after all it is going towards education. Thanks, David G. winnderfish_falls(a)yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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[CCTECH] Cards to Identify

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 6/1/02 11:28:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Andreas.Freiherr(a)vishay.com writes: > All these boards (#1 Ethernet adapter, #2 motherboard, #2a/b > daughterboards) have "Ungermann-Bass" printed on them, so I am sure who > made them. Only the board with the 68000 CPU is obviously from somebody > else IIRC Ungerman Bass made repeaters and terminal concentrators also. Are there any serial plugs on the large MB like cards? Some of the terminal concentrator cards had 4 serial ports, some would take plug in cards at one end, usually for an Ethernet card. They have a processor and are about the original XT MB size. You could jumper some of the 4 serial port cards together to form a stack of 8 ports, maybe more. This stuff is old and probably only good for parts. We bought a bunch of this in the early 1990s and sold it back to Ungerman Bass because it was upgradable. Paxton Astoria, OR

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