- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

On Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:39:50 -0400 (EDT) William Donzelli wrote: >The other weirdness to pass my eye (but managed to get) is a small >package of chips. These are "purple" DIPs, 16 or 18 pins (can't recall >offhand), with two LCCCs piggybacked. This method of construction is >common in very high end memory chips and military assemblies. The LCCCs >are Mosteks, and some are clearly labelled MK4116 with 1980-ish >datecodes. Memory, probably, the good 'ol 16K DRAM. >But the weirdness...two DRAMs on a package is pretty weird (I suppose >making a 32Kx 1 or 16K x 2), but these things have Apple logos. >Huh? IIRC: these were used for a 256k RAM upgrade on Apple III's. -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw

24 years, 2 months

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Foxboro PCP-88 (PDP-8)

by foo＠siconic.com

According to this FAQ: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/dec-faq/pdp8-models/section-2.html ...the PDP-8 was OEM'd to a company called Foxboro Corporation that re-badged it as the PCP-88. Has anyone ever seen a PCP-88? I would assume it is functionally and physically equivalent to a DEC PDP-8? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Foxboro PCP-88 (PDP-8)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Hmm... core and and a single-chip 12-bit microprocessor sounds pretty unlikely.. Plus, I'm fairly sure Fabritek made its own computers at one point in time, and I doubt they were clones of anything.. Then again, I can't say I've ever found any actual info on them, either. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

24 years, 2 months

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Bulk Tape Eraser / 486 Linux box problem SCSI

by mythtech＠mac.com

>how the hell do I clean off / smooth off >the boards to make them flat enough to mount to a wall, etc without the >nasty sharp solder hang-offs and chips, etc. hanging off and getting in the >way.... I would leave all the stuff on. Adds to the whole look. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

24 years, 2 months

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What's the best way to slurp up DEC RX50s?

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

I know if they are RX-50's for the rainbow, RainDOS lets you read and write them on a IBM compatible with a 1.2MB 5 1/4" drive At 11:10 AM 6/21/02 +0100, you wrote: > >Primary goal is backup - TELEDISK should do that. Secondary goal is > >to produce image files suitable for use with simh and E-11. > >Backup implies an ability to restore, and, at least >for me, TELEDISK has problems doing that. On my system >(which at the time was a K6 233MHz machine) 3.5" >disks could be restored without issue but 5.25" >disks could not be reliably restored (this seemed >to apply to both 360KB and 1.2MB disks). I assume >that restoring RX50s will be no easier. > >It might just have been my system, it might just >have been my copy of TELEDISK (there seem to be >multiple copies floating around) but it did not >fill me with confidence. > >Is the TELEDISK format freely available? If not, >restoring your disks may be difficult once the >last PC has expired! > >BACKUP/PHYSICAL has the advantage that you can at >least work out where each block ends up (since the >BACKUP source listings are available). > >(If anyone has suggestions for "imaging" 360KB >floppies, 1.2MB floppies and RX50s using PC hardware >running Windows or Linux or NetBSD, I'm all ears. >Preference given to those with practical experience >of restoring the data afterwards ... I'm not keen >to run through several hundred floppies just on >the off-chance it will be worthwhile.) > >Antonio

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Bulk Tape Eraser / 486 Linux box problem SCSI

by mythtech＠mac.com

>Scary as that might be. Building >a computer desk and office out of failed computer parts. Now, just to win >the damned lottery so I can actually spend at least 5 minutes a day >figuring out how to obtain enough parts and break them down into something >workable. If a guy here in NJ can build an entire castle and property out of garbage and broken stuff, you should be able to handle some office furniture. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Motorola zc93124cp

by csmith＠amdocs.com

> -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Smith [mailto:eric@brouhaha.com] > > Might it be some kind of embedded CPU? > It might well contain a CPU. Well, Ok, that's more what I meant, actually. > > What does it do, > It converts electrical energy into heat. Aside from that, it's > hard to say. I'll have to remember to use that, next time it's appropriate ;) > Maybe the manufacturer of the system containing the chip might, but > it's pretty unlikely. I think that's out of the question, since it's embedded deep in another non-computer-related thing that hasn't been made since the late 80's. > This is why it's much more interesting to deal with OLD computers. I agree, but my aim is to either re-program this thing, or replace the embedded computer completely with something that does work in a well documented way. It will require interpreting some (simple, open/closed and possibly some "timed pulse" kind of things) signals from other equipment, interpreting the signals, and displaying the results on a pair of matrix displays. One is possibly twenty-something by twenty-something, the other 8 or so by maybe 64. Of course, I've also thought about replacing the matrix screens with an LCD of higher resolution. The thing is, I'd rather see about just writing new code for it, but to do that, I need to figure out just what I'm looking at. Another related question is, assuming that this were an embedded ASIC from that era, what could I hope to find inside? Might it have its own internal PROM to store the program? (In which case, I'd need to find a replacement, or use a different chip...) Chris (who has less than sufficient experience with embedded computers) Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL "Confutatis maledictus, flammis acribus addictus, voca me cum benedictis. Oro supplex et acclinis, cor contritunt quasi cinis, gere curarn mei finis." -Requiem

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One SCSI tape connected to 2 hosts?

by bob_lafleur＠technologist.com

I've noticed that my MV3100's SCSI host ID's are set to 6 - I thought this odd, as host ID's are usually 7. Are all MV3100's set to 6, or is mine unique? Anyway, I thought since my PC's host ID is 7, I could connect my SCSI tape drive to both systems. So I ran a cable from one connector on the back to my PC, and a cable from the other connector to my MV3100. I figure it's a properly terminated chain, as each host controller is terminated (I know the PC is, I assume the MV3100 is). It *seems* to work OK. But can anyone tell me for sure if this is "legal"? I'm sure I'm looking for trouble if I try to use the same tape drive from both systems at the same time, but as long as I don't do that, is this an okay setup? It would sure beat changing cables every time I want to move the tape drive from one system to the other. - Bob

24 years, 2 months

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RT11 & RSX cd images - additional site

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I noticed that downloads of the ISO images for RT11 & RSX freeware from Tim Shoppa's website are slowwwwwwwww. I'm not sure if he has a really slow internet connection, or if he (or his ISP) is throttling bandwidth (I suspect the latter). To provide for faster downloads to anyone who wants it, I am copying the RT11 & RSX freeware ISO cd images to www.classiccmp.org/PDP11 They should be up there sometime tomorrow morning, don't download them from me before then or you're likely to get a partial image. And you can bet you'll get more than 14kbps from my servers :) Also, if you only want portions of the freeware CD's rather than the entire ISO image, the entire contents are already at that URL in natural (non-ISO) form to download individually. Jay West

24 years, 2 months

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new toy DG Nova 4X

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I went by a surplus place today and found the remains of a DG Nova 4x that they'd already scrapped. Further searching revealed a 4x that they hadn't gotten to yet. I grabbed it, the floppy drives (8") from both units and the front panels from both and the CPU and a couple of other cards from the first unit. I did leave behind the hard drives (that may have been a mistake). Does anyone have info on these? Joe

24 years, 2 months

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Acoustic delay line??

by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

I've never seen one and couldn't find a clear picture on the web anywhere. Is this an acoustic delay line? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=887259145

24 years, 2 months

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Warner /Amex "QUBE" set top box

by truthanl＠oclc.org

I think Bank-One and OCLC also had some research resources commited to the early interactive cable project. I recall we used to have some proto-types of set top boxes with an interactive cable banking function somewhere in the penthouse. Mid to late 70's - I think we trashed 'em. Some of the upper management was interested in interactive communicatoin >from homes - but it became obvious that it was difficult to incorporate with our library based mission. So our research was based on cable broadband network technology study - but I remember we had proto-type boxes - which also had a banking sponsor. Larry Truthan - Digest Subscriber

24 years, 2 months

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Document copy protection

by mythtech＠mac.com

>On the >front is a plastic 'cone' (really a truncated rectangular pyramid). You >hold the front side of that against the monitor screen and press the >shutter release. Sounds like the thing the insurance company upstairs uses for photographing VIN numbers thru the windshield of a car -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Cool IIgs find

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

At local thrift last night I got a Apple IIgs that had a ELINA fan and 20 meg harddrive combo mounted were the normal power supply goes. Also inside was a AE TRANSWARP GS card, AE VULCAN controller card for the HD, and a AE RAMKEEPER card with 2 Apple ram cards mounted to it. There was a dryfit A200 ext battery Sonnenscheen with it also that works with the Ram card? The cables, mouse, and keyboard also came with it and all or $12.21. I will have to go down to the shop and get a monitor to test it with. At the Goodwill I got a Radio Shack Electronic TV Scoreboard in the box without manuals:-( At another thrift I got a Genesis 32X unit for $3.93, Actimate Arthur by Microsoft, A new unopened package from Teledyne with a early Data Processing Symbols Template. There several other goodies but they are too new to list.

24 years, 2 months

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Motorola zc93124cp

by csmith＠amdocs.com

Can anyone tell me anything about this chip? Again, it's a Motorola chip, which is marked "zc93124cp" Might it be some kind of embedded CPU? What does it do, and where do I find more information about it? Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL "Confutatis maledictus, flammis acribus addictus, voca me cum benedictis. Oro supplex et acclinis, cor contritunt quasi cinis, gere curarn mei finis." -Requiem

24 years, 2 months

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RS/6000 7013-580 troubles

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I know this is just under the 10yr rule, but it's pretty close, so please bear with me... OK, I've got the SCSI drives from the 55L mounted in the case, hooked up a terminal *and* keyboard, and this is what the LED display shows: 120 124 400 When 400 is displayed, the led next to the power switch goes off, the rs-232 port no longer has output voltage, and the machine just sits there. No playing with the reset button or smashing of keys on the keyboard or terminal will wake it up. Anyone have any ideas? The config is: 2-1 Ethernet card 1-9 Video card 4-4 Single-ended scsi-2 card 128MB RAM CDROM drive floppy drive 2x2GB hard drives (3.5" HH) which seemed to at least spin up in the 55L. -- Pat

24 years, 2 months

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Computers in Public Xport

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Merle K. Peirce <at258(a)osfn.org> > I recall seeing a Charles Atlas website somewhere with a complete biography. Try charlesatlas.com "Charles Atlas -- The World's Most Perfectly Developed Man" Glen 0/0 If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if not now, when? -- Pirkei Avot

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how to preserve old RL01 pack data?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> The question is, how can I get a copy of a pack as a > binary image onto the PC ? (to load in simh for example ?) I don't suppose you have access to a MicroVAX? I always do this under VMS, and then FTP the data over to a UNIX system. Unfortuantly I'm not sure how you can do this under RT-11, however, I'd guess that at a minimum you'd need a RL02 drive and pack to hold the image for transfer over the the PC. Zane

24 years, 2 months

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Computers in Public Xport

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> > I bought the rather impressive looking set of "300 army men" or whatever > the number was only to be severely disappointed when I got them to find > they were cheap molded plastic bastards that were of majorly suckish > quality compared to the more durable and softer plastic variety you could > get from the grocery store toy section. Jeez, Sellam, I thought I was the only one who got suckered on that deal! I got mine around '64 (I think they were $1.99), and man, was I crushed to see how little they resembled the drawing in the ad :<( Glen 0/0 If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if not now, when? -- Pirkei Avot

24 years, 2 months

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Document copy protection

by passerm＠umkc.edu

That can be disabled by the application. Disabling PrtSc would require hooking the OS on every machine running notes. But if somehow they were able to do even that, a program like VMware running notes would do a nice job of making a screen capture possible. Failing that, someone who wanted to get the word out could simply photograph the screen. > > What about a copy/paste operation? > > --tom

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RF output DOES NOT equal Composite!!!!

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>lines) on it. It lets me use the various facilites of the SCART connector >without contiunally swearing at the darn plug! Since I've seen several people express this same sentiment, what exactly is the problem with SCART? My only experience of SCART has been to connect my TV to various input sources (a VCR, a camcorder and a satellite receiver) and for that it seems to work reasonably well. Antonio

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Source for components on Internet?

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Louis Schulman <louiss(a)gate.net> > There is a good store in > Orlando, but that is a long drive and they are much more expensive than > the mail order places. Hey Louis, which place here are you referring to? Glen 0/0 If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if not now, when? -- Pirkei Avot

24 years, 2 months

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[CCTECH] HP C19 calculator - power requirements?

by msspcva＠yahoo.com

Hello: Can someone tell me or point me towards a site with information on the power requirements for a HP C19 printing calculator? I've got one which I'd like to sell, but I'd like to see if it works or not first. It appears to be in decent shape, tho the carrying case is getting ratty. I see on the back it says "5V" and "1W", but the connector (I assume for a AC adapter) isn't labeled, and it has no power pack. Thanks in advance, Frank ===== = M O N T V A L E S O F T W A R E S E R V I C E S P. C.= Clayton Frank Helvey, President Montvale Software Services, P. C. P.O. Box 840 Blue Ridge, VA 24064-0840 Phone: 540.947.5364 Email: msspcva(a)yahoo.com ============================================================ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

24 years, 2 months

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A VAX 6610 is rolling toward my garage ...

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hehe, there goes the last VAX out of my workplace, and right into my garage. And its a 6610! That means I will need to add in a few processors, but there is my NVAX. Much work is before me. I should get Ultrix 4.2 ported to it starting with the 6000-400 files. It can't be so hard after the 6000-500 runs... We'll see. Does anyone have the processor internal registers for the KA66A? With some luck we can drop in just a very small set of kernel files that can be reused under Ultrix 4.5 binary. For NetBSD it will be a little harder to replicate all the missing stuff. I think I will want to set up a fast cross compiling or native VAX box for that first. That also means that a 6400 will become free on relatively short notice. This one goes to Micheal McCabe, if he wants it (?) I am a bit reluctant yet to convert the 6400 to a -600 so quickly after I barely set it up. I guess I will take some time to actually do the conversion. But in a matter of 4 weeks after I took her home, I should probably get rid of that extraneous then 64x0 cabinet. (the 'x' depends a little on how I will distribute all the CPUs.) Also, there are the XMI and VAXBI backplanes (with some defect, but certainly not everything on both of them) free for the taking. They aren't claimed yet and that means I will decompose those shortly. cheers, -Gunther -- Gunther Schadow, M.D., Ph.D. gschadow(a)regenstrief.org Medical Information Scientist Regenstrief Institute for Health Care Adjunct Assistant Professor Indiana University School of Medicine tel:1(317)630-7960 http://aurora.regenstrief.org

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Computers in Public Xport

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Sellam Ismail" <foo(a)siconic.com> > >On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Jeff Hellige wrote: > >> > He also regularly got sand kicked in his face while "beach-bunnies" looked >> >on disdainfully until he developed his physique. And then they clustered >> >around him admiringly and bullies slunk away. BB-guns and Ryder bicycles >> >were also back-cover features on most comic-books as well. >> >> Along with the ads for the American Revolution figures and >> the X-ray eyeglasses and sea monkeys. Some of that stuff actually >> stayed on the back covers for quite a few years. > >I bought the rather impressive looking set of "300 army men" or whatever >the number was only to be severely disappointed when I got them to find >they were cheap molded plastic bastards that were of majorly suckish >quality compared to the more durable and softer plastic variety you could >get from the grocery store toy section. I was a slower learner. I sent of several times for the items on the backs of cereal boxes. I can still remember the propeller powered boat that when let loose would dive into the water and sink. The baking powder powered sub did work but was a lot smaller than the picture lead one to believe. Anyway, I liked the sea monkeys. Dwight

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Document copy protection

by Arno_1983＠gmx.de

Antonio Carlini wrote: >>I actually tried that with one local shop, and they flat out said no. Its >>quite possible that the Philips/Magnavox service docs can't be printed >>(via normal means, anyway), but only viewed from those cdroms. If they can >>be printed, its possible that the service shop has a limit as to how many >>pages they can print (or even view) from those discs. > >PDF files can be marked to prevent printing, although >I think it's down to the software to honour this. > >Limiting the number of viewings seems a little >daft - I doubt that anyone does this! > >Antonio Even then there should be a way IMO. There are a few programmes that allow you to take a "screen shot", which means they produce a (.bmp .jpg...whatever) file that shows what you had on your screen when you press some key. The one I have was part of the Corel family...unfortunately, I haven't used it a long time and I'm not home now to check its name. There could also be something like this out as freeware, but I'm not sure on this. Even if it's a bit complicated, this would at least allow you to print the contents of those manuals the original viewer doesn't want you to. Legality of such operations is another problem; I do not want to encourage illegal actions. But I also don't want to see perfectly repairable appliances go to the dumpster. Choose your way... Arno Kletzander Arno_1983(a)gmx.de -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net

24 years, 2 months

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OT: Ripping Phone Books (was RE: Computers in Public Xport)

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Ripping a phone book in half is really quite easy if you know the trick. Just break the spine (it helps if the humidity is low, so the paper is less flexible) first. Once the pages are torn at the spine, you can rip them the rest of the way. -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 11:54 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Computers in Public Xport <snip> I always did want to learn how to rip a phone book in half with my bare hands but never got around to ordering. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

24 years, 2 months

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Acoustic delay line??

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Rick Bensene" <rickb(a)bensene.com> > >This could be a mercury delay line. Remington Rand did use mercury >delay lines in >some of their early computers. > Hi Rich A mercury line would have a hose with mercury in it ( or metal tubing ) and tranducers at each end. I've seen several of these and this is not one. I suspect that it is some kind of lamp or heater. For what, I don't know. Dwight

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Acoustic delay line??

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi I'm going to make a wild guess. This was a flash tube used to sychronize a neon light computer. Anyway, I don't think it is a delay line. Dwight >From: "Gary Hildebrand" <ghldbrd(a)ccp.com> > >Bill Sudbrink wrote: >> >> I've never seen one and couldn't find a clear picture >> on the web anywhere. Is this an acoustic delay line? >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=887259145 > >I'd guess that it is either a TWT, or maybe an X-ray tube of some sort. >Definitely NOT a delay line. > >Gary Hildebrand >St. Joseph, MO >

24 years, 2 months

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Bulk Tape Eraser

by mythtech＠mac.com

I just found a box of stuff that hasn't seen the light of day since my company moved to our current building some 15 years ago. In it was a Bulk Tape Eraser. The box pictures it being used on 5.25 floppies (as well as an 8 track tape and reel to reel tape). Is it safe to use on floppy disks? I have a stack of HD 3.5's that I want to blank out. Previously I just run them thru a computer to format them, but if a bulk tape eraser can be used, it just saves me the trouble. Also, how exactly are you supposed to use one? It has been as long since I used one (probably this same one, used to use it to blank reel to reel audio tapes). I thought I remembered that all you do is turn it on, hold it over the item for a few seconds, wave it back and forth a bit, and that was it. The item would be erased. I just tried this one on a VHS video tape, it doesn't seem to do anything to it. The picture is slightly distorted, but the tape is certainly not blanked, not even close. I left it on for a good 30 to 45 seconds (the label on the side of it says 1 minute on 20 minutes off, so I didn't want to go beyond 1 minute). It has a momentary switch on the handle, so it clearly isn't designed to be left on very long. It makes a slight humm when on (and vibrates just a touch, nothing visible, but you can feel it in your hand) so I assume it is working. However, this is a Radio Shack brand item, so who knows if it is doing what it should considering it is probably over 20 years old. Any clues? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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9-track round-reel tapes available

by bill＠timeguy.com

My company is cleaning house and throwing away a bunch of 9-track round-reel mainframe tapes. If anyone can use some and is willing to pay shipping (or pick them up in Nebraska) I will grab some. Let me know by private e-mail please.

24 years, 2 months

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[CCTECH] WTD: Datasheets for old Sierra modem ICs

by philpem＠dsl.pipex.com

Hi, I've just finished pulling an old Sierra Semiconductor FSK modem chipset off an old modem board and I've hit a brick wall - I can't get any datasheets. Sierra (now known as PMC-Sierra) don't have the datasheets, their disti (Memec) don't have them... The only site/company that does have them is FreeTradeZone (www.freetradezone.com), but I don't fancy paying $10,000 per year for maybe two or three datasheets a year. BTW, the ICs are: SC11011 SC11026 SC22201 Anyone got datasheets for these things lying around? Finally, anyone know how to straighten pins on a QFP packaged IC without breaking them? I've got a Motorola DSP (QFP100 package) but I managed to bend some of the pins when I desoldered it... Thanks. -- Phil. philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/ _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

24 years, 2 months

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Network card for LaserJet

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> F.Y.I. - My Cabletron MRXI hubs have RJ-45 sockets, for hooking up >to a serial VT420 terminal... :) > But, yes, I agree. Those hubs are the only time _I've_ seen RJ-45 >used for serial communication. Various terminal servers use RJ45 for serial comms. One of the selling points of CAT5 was that you wire your building once with CAT5 and then can use the same wires for voice and data. The data was usually either ethernet traffic or serial comms (for printers and such). The connectors were invariably (at least in my experince) RJ45 for both ethernet and serial (and ISDN too). Antonio

24 years, 2 months

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how to preserve old RL01 pack data?

by fran＠hexamon.org

I have some old DEC RL01 packs with PDP-11 diagnostic utilities - these are DEC originals: AX-E380L-MC DLDP+DIAG#1 + DECX A1 SYSTEM A AX-E441L-MC CZZLBLO DLDP+DIAG #2 + CPUTST + DECX B1 SYS B They won't last forever, and I don't have any spare media to back them up to, so I'd like to archive this software onto my PC (for posterity - or perhaps to make available to other hobbyists for use in the emulator, though I'm not sure whether the Mentec license would cover this - it does say "and associated utilities" however). The question is, how can I get a copy of a pack as a binary image onto the PC ? (to load in simh for example ?) I have a working serial port, and I can run kermit OK on RT-11. However, even if RT-11 will read the pack in DL1: (and I'm not even sure of that), how can I persuade kermit to take a copy of DL1: as an image ? I haven't found a way of doing this. Simply doing "get DL1:" doesn't seem to work. Is there any kermit-like software out there that has a PC client and can do a disk image transfer ? Thanks in advance, F

24 years, 2 months

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DEC Pro350

by pat＠purdueriots.com

EET'S ALIVE! Well, I finally hobbled together a 'console cable' that connects its monochrome output to my TV and to a LK201 keyboard. Now I just could use a 'better' OS for the thing than P/OS. [Also, I could use soemthing that told me how much memory it has in it...] Has anyone ever hacked RSX-11M or RSX-11M+ to work on it? Are there any guides for RSX-11M(+)? How should I cure my insanity? :) Is VENIX worth trying on this thing? -- Pat

24 years, 2 months

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Making RT-11 bootable

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>OK, I now have a bootable RX-50. My question is what is the difference >between DL.SYS and DLX.SYS drivers? Is the non-x version unibus and the >with-x version qbus or something? The dd.SYS form of the driver is for the SB (formerly SJ) and FB monitors (kernel, for unix weenies :-) The ddX.SYS form of the driver is for the XM (XM, ZM, ZB) monitor(s). These last monitors are the ones which have directives for controlling extended memory (anything beyond 64kb) and the drivers know how to get data from, and put data to, user buffers in extended memory. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: gentry at zk3.dec.com (work) | | Unix Support Engineering Group | mbg at world.std.com (home) | | Hewlett Packard | (s/ at /@/) | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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I hate Radio Shack

by jos.mar＠bluewin.ch

> >These kits probably started my love of Philips products (OK, the modern >ones are the same cheap rubbish that everone else sells, but...). Ooh, an unsatisfied customer of my employer .... The operating word is "cheap" : those for whom price is the only guide will never find good quality. Not at Philips, nor at any other brand.... Jos

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Source for components on Internet?

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

---------- > From: Louis Schulman <louiss(a)gate.net> > I was speaking of Starcraft. They have crazy old stuff available > nowhere else. I could spend hours there sifting through bins and > filling envelopes with little parts. > > Louis Oh, I thought the discussion was on stocking distributors as opposed to salvage/surplus places. As for Starcraft, anyplace with a giant tin spaceship on the roof is bound to be good :>) Glen 0/0 If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if not now, when? -- Pirkei Avot

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Up For Trade; Was Re: Timex Sinclair 1000....

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> > *Pinball > *The List Manager > +SuperMath > *The Check Book Manager > -The Mixed Game Bag I # has black&red insert, just no jewel box > +Mixed Game Bag II > *Mixed Game Bag III > +The Organizer > *The Coupon Manager > +The Gambler > +Vu-Calc > +The Budgeter Sorry, Doc, I've got all those :>( Glen 0/0 If I am not for myself, then who will be for me? And if not now, when? -- Pirkei Avot

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Computers in cars (was: I hate Radio Shack

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Do you mean a component that gets rackmounted, or a whole rack? I suspect a whole rack :-) Antonio

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any advice on IMSAI testing/repair?

by dpeschel＠eskimo.com

Sorry, I don't know the exact model number (it belongs to a friend who got it from his dad). It hasn't been turned on in a long time -- what is the procedure for slowly bringing it up to make sure nothing gets fried? I imagine it would be to check the power supply and backplane wiring, then the CPU card (including the voltage regulator), then memory (including the voltage regulators), then other cards -- and the front panel has to be checked at some point too. I could use more specifc directions, a list of potential problems particular to the IMSAI, etc. Thanks, -- Derek

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One SCSI tape connected to 2 hosts?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 18, 13:40, Geoff Reed wrote: > There are SCSI sharing devices out there that will allow one device to be > hooked to 2 machines concurrently. You can do it directly providing the controllers (and their hosts) are well-behaved (which lets Windows off the hook). Back in the days when a SCSI disk of any size cost nearly as much as the computer you might want to attach it to, one enterprising company produced a system for the Acorn Archimedes which allowed six Archimedes computers to share one SCSI disk (and, I think, to "talk" to each other). I saw it working at an exhibition, and I think it was made by Lingenuity. You might be able to get more information from their sister comapany, Lindis: http://www.lindis.co.uk, or from Jack Lillingston at Castle Technology: http://www.castle.uk.co/ (no that's not a typo, it is uk.co not co.uk) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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VERY good weekend

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Well. I've been working on, and cleaning & testing, the weekend's finds. It was a nice haul. The aforementioned Macintosh System Software bundle, in shrinkwrap. Way too much, but it's eBay Bait from hell. $6.99 An Atari 1040ST with SC1224 display and mouse - works great, no burn-in, floppy reads & formats perfectly. $5.98 A Telex EB6 Dead Reckoning Computer. Telex still sells them, but I'm sure this one's at least 15 years old. Not a computer, but computerized, and the perfect ClassicCmp Collector's accessory -- 1991 Ford F-150 with Straight-6 EFI and overdrive manual transmission. It's on its 4th trip around the odometer. 328,755 true miles. Doc's in love. Free. By the time it's street legal I'll have $75 into it. Doc

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VS4000/60 and VRE01 problems

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Anybody had luck hooking a VAXstation 4000/60 with "GS-2" (?) graphics adapter up to a VRE01 flatpanel? I finally got the VS4K from Doc today (thanks for dropping it off, BTW, hope that mono video cable works for you), and got around to hooking it up to the VRE a bit ago. However, all is not right - there looks to be a scan rate/resolution mismatch, and I cant find ANY dipswitches, etc, to set.. Suggestions? Links to the 4000/60 owners manual possibly? I've got pictures of the results: http://gallery.mrbill.net/view_album.php?set_albumName=vre01&page=2 Any help appreciated. I'd LOVE to get this display working.. (and the pictures show the display as yellow - its actually orange..) Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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RKV11D - RK05 media to CD or other DEC media

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

Last year, I acquired an RK05 drive along with a number of very old RK05 packs with RT-11 files. Since these distribution are all older than V5.03, they are covered under the Mentec license which allows usage under the SIMH emulator. Last week, I was able to borrow an RKV11D Qbus controller and copy most of the 17 packs (there were a few packs with bad blocks) with the RT-11 files to a CD. Within a few months, it should be possible to make these distributions available under the emulator license, just as V5.03 and V4.00 or RT-11 are now. In addition, while I still have the loan of the RKV11D, if there are any users with RK05 media that wish to rescue the files, I will be able to do so providing the media are still in readable condition. If the RK05 media are in satisfactory condition and I only need to read the files once for the COPY and a second time for the verification (there are no bad blocks), then there will only be a nominal charge for the destination CD or other DEC media that I am able to use such as RL02 or TK50 or TK70. If there are some "difficult" blocks that I am asked to try and recover, then I will also charge for my time. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

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A VAX 6610 is rolling toward my garage ...

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

What about mass storage devices that have blinkenlights computers built into them? For example, old StorageTek libraries had Prime's in them, forget what model, but they were ones with front panels. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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[jsbragg@pacific.net.au: An old VAX may need a new home...]

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Contact Scott directly. ----- Forwarded message from Scott Bragg <jsbragg(a)pacific.net.au> ----- From: "Scott Bragg" <jsbragg(a)pacific.net.au> To: <mrbill(a)decvax.org> Subject: An old VAX may need a new home... Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 04:05:44 -0700 I few years back an old friend who I know longer have contact with gave me an old MicroVAX and additional storage unit. I found your site just before heading to bed so may pick this conversation up later and provide more details. The system stopped booting but I think it was a minor problem so tried to repair it myself. However just at that time I found I had to move house so the machine has been sitting in my second bedroom for 2 years collecting dust with some parts not attached. I'm moving house in 1-3 months time and won't have room for a lot of my old equipment, so if I cannot use it I'll either give it away or throw it out (however this VAX is very heavy so maybe I won't be throwing it as such <grin>). I may also have a couple of manuals somewhere too. I'm in Erskineville, Sydney, Australia - so if you know someone who either can help me get it running again and/or wants it, let me know. As I said, I'm heading to bed now, I'll provide more useful details in the morning. Regards, Scott Bragg ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

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Philips and auction finds (was: Re: I hate Radio Shack)

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>I actually tried that with one local shop, and they flat out said no. Its >quite possible that the Philips/Magnavox service docs can't be printed >(via normal means, anyway), but only viewed from those cdroms. If they can >be printed, its possible that the service shop has a limit as to how many >pages they can print (or even view) from those discs. PDF files can be marked to prevent printing, although I think it's down to the software to honour this. Limiting the number of viewings seems a little daft - I doubt that anyone does this! Antonio

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Does RF output equal Composite?

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

OK, now that I've exposed myself as an inveterate non-gamer. If I have RF output (VHF Channel 2 or 3), can I run a composite cable into the Video In jack of my VCR and get a picture? Doc

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New Museum inds

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

A slow two weeks and I keep missing the deals (such as a Sega Normad for $6.99 and new in the box Dreamcast systems for $29.95)? 1. A EaglePC-2 from a scrapper for $3 just unit no KB or monitor came with it. 2. A large manual called Personal Programming for the TI 58C/59. 3. IBM 5150 PC in great shape for $2.50. 4. PowerPC Mac 7200/90 for $2.50. 5. A R.O.B. nintendo robot, just the body no other parts came with it. $1.50 6. Another TurboGrafx 16 without the power supply for $5.00 7. Cisco Catalyst 2820 for $5 at the flea market. 8. Several mousepads for that part of the collection (about 20 picked up). 9. Mac Performa 450 for free at an Auction. 10. ti 486 cpu chip for my chip collection. 11. About 30 various cartridges for the 2600, Atari 400/800, TI99/4A, NES, and other consoles. 12. 2 - Performa 575 for free at the auction. 13. Atari 800XL for free. 14. IBM PS/2 model L40 SX notebook non working came free with a Power Mac G3 tower at the flea market. 15. A couple of platium Apple IIe's. 16. Nec multispin 2V model CDR-300 for Macs'. 17. Compaq Proliant Server rack/cabinet unit. 18. IBM Thinkpad 701c with the fold out keyboard design. 19. TRS-80 Micro Color computer in the box for $3 at the flea market. 20. TRS-80 Disk/video interface Cat# 26-3806. 21. hp model 715/100 PA-Risc powered for $2 at auction. 22. Xscribe Xec5 unit only for free.

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Apple hardcard? Re: Stuff available for pickup in southern NH

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 09:41 AM 1/4/70 -0500, you wrote: >I would be interested in the following items in trade: > >Hardcard for the Apple II What? I've never heard of one. Can you post a picture? Joe >

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[CCTECH] RE: FW: AVAILABLE-- PDP, DEC (list 2)

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Ethan Dicks > > And *where* is this? Looks like some interesting items in there. > > Is anyone following up on it? > > -ethan > > > From: Jon Ikoniak (ikoniak(a)snowhite.cis.temple.edu) > > It is a first come and take to a good home deal. We would rather > see these things go to good homes. We are in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. > We do pack and ship some items, it depends. Most of is 'come & get it'. As for who's following up, I would say just send an e-mail to Jon himself, and see what has not been spoken for. I'm not sure if they're looking to get money for the stuff or not. I only know that the stuff is avaiable. If I had the space (and time), I would drive right on down there with my pickup truck... -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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[CCTECH] RE: FW: AVAILABLE-- PDP, DEC (list 2)

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Here's list number 2... -- --- David A Woyciesjes > ---------- > > This list is from Jon Ikoniak (ikoniak(a)snowhite.cis.temple.edu). > Please contact him with any offers and/or questions. It sounds like some > of > the bigger stuff needs to move ASAP... > > -- > > > > From: Jon Ikoniak (ikoniak(a)snowhite.cis.temple.edu) > > > > > NOTE: The following list was put together by an assitant who was > not very familiar with this type of technology. This is a > list of most of the small parts we still have in cabinets. > This list should be used as a reference. We still have a > number of schematics, user manuals, and other assorted > documentation that we need to make a list up to send out. > We also have a number of assorted electronic items we need > to make a list up. Also there are still some larger items > such as racks, processors, disks, etc, that need to be put > into a list and sent out. We will do so as soon as we can. > > RK DISKS (These are rk05 disk platters from old PDP's) > > 2315-12 HD RT-11 Version 5.3 RK 40 (32 backup/storage bitmap/File > I/O error) > 220 00 BPI-12 RT 11 XM with DP Support RK 063 (4.3 Development/ > Animal weiging) rsx-11m V3.2 > V4c SRC-Backup-RT11 (master is RK037) RK 057 > 53024 HD12 KAPPS > Lafollet programs > 53025 HD 12 RSx Libdisk system Aug83 RK 061 > KAPPS > Mark III 2F-12 SDB-SOURCE-II RK058 > RT-11 system for VT-103 backup RK075 > 2200 BPI- 12 > 846-2-16 > 53024 HD 12 RIX PIX 2 > SYS IMAG > 2315-12 HD BAD BLOCK > Lafollette > Bill Wirth's RK 11 > Serial # 072281-34 Transformation medium btw unix G and D > 2200-BPI-12 Merck 4.3 Disk 02/ RSX-11m V3.2 > 53024 HD 12 Backup for usre files on System F DK 2 RK 045 > 2200 BPI-12 GERMANO MUMPS > L. Remy old Rt-V3 RK 18 > 2200 BPI-12 Backup RK6, SYSTEM F Rk 055 > RSX Limsy H 83b Backup RSX SYS RK 69 > disk for system H fall 83 > 2200 BPI-12 Copy of RT11 Disk Used on B + C - fall83 RK062 > Serial # C73580 Mini computer Accessories > 2200 BPI-12 RSX-11M/AP-D050EBC/RSX M32 No drver 81 > 53024 HD 12 RSX-11M V 4.0/ System backup RK 52 > 2200 BPI-12 AN-M356A-BC/RSX 11M V4.0 ATPCH RK 5 > 2200 BPI-12 TEMPLE Physics /K.McFARALANE/RSXH-M > DK0 BACKUP RT-11 CER2B-05 > 2200 BPT-12 RSX LIB SYH 83B/BACKUP FOR RSXLIB FALL83 RK 070 > 2315-12 HD RSX-11M V3.2/DK1 > DEC FORTRAN -IV V2.5 RK 050 > 2315-BPT-12 RSX-11M V4.0 ID:R5XM32 RK 5 > SERIAL# C73005 MINICOMPUTER ASSOCIATION > 2200 BPI-12 RT11 SYS 82 B GT SUPPORT NO MT RK067 > SERIAL# C72974 MINICOMPUTER ASS. > DD15-24 COPY DO 1 BLANK RK 057 > DD15-12 LAFOLLETTE D-SOURCES > KBS IRP RK 56 > F4 AND F4P FORTRAN IV FOR RSX RK 71 > 2315-12 HD RT-11 VER 5.3/DISK 2 OF 3 > 53025 HD 12 RSX SYS DISK RK 060 > > ERROR CORRECTION LOGIC CHIP (FLIP CHIP) > M7234(2), M7232(2),M7231, M7233, M7235 > FLOPPY DISK CONTROLLER M7725, M7726(3) > READ/WRITE CONTROLLER M7727(4) > STACK REGISTER ( FLIP CHIP M7237) > ERROR CORRECTION LOGIC CHIP(FLIP CHIP) > M7273, M8120, M7260, M8265, M7263(2), M7258, M8266(2), G110, M7272, > M8121 > MASBUS PADDLE CARD 013A > STD CONNECTION CARD(2) 9107747-02 121A > 600 SERIES LOGIC BD, LS12 LOGIG BOARD, MOTHER BOARD JLP008517 > ERROR CORRECCTION LOGIC CHIP P/N SPE-156(2) > FLIP CHIP: M7236, M7231, M7235 (2), M7233, M7260, 7261, M7263,M8127 > (2). > M8126920, M8128 (2), M8106, M8129(2),M8103 > 1 TERMINATOR > 3 MODEL 125XR FANS > GRUOND CABLES RED (5), BLAC (9), VARIOUS SIZES > MONITOR CABLE > 50 OHM OR BUS DRIVER B683 > MOTIONAND SELECTION CIRCUIT: G85A, G221(12), G821(2), G916(2), G820(3) > > PULSE AMPLIFER: S603(4), S151(2), S123(8), S205(11),S123(10), S111(13), > S202(6), S206(2) > ANALOG PRE AMP : A214(3) > SOLENOID DRIVER: W040930, W7040(7), W107(12),W520(2),W990(6), W104(2), > W103, W640, W726, R303(5), R113, R302(2), R002 > DIODE INVENTER: B165(4), B301, B611(2), B134, B152(6), B135(2), > B212(4), > B312(2),B133(4), B172, B301(4), B137, B683 > 6 TRACK DIODE MATIX(41) > SAMPLE AND HOLE A404, 10BIT AD CONV. A801 G093(2) > G085(8),G062(2), G064(2),G060(4),G350(5), G094(2), G050(4),G932(4), > G933(8), G9341(3), G882(9), G736(2), G717, > G741(5),G820(3),G9340(3),G718, > G624(3), G286(6), G285(60, G228(5), A131, W512 > > PDP I UNIBUS TERMINATOR/BOOTSTRAP > M9301SW,M9301 YA > BACKPLANE ASSY 5412233(3) > BACKPLANE WITH CHIPS RK11-1 > M7257,M7256,M7255,M7254, > ONE DEC UNIBUS M920,M981. > FLIP CHIP; M7822(20, M77701,M9047,M7702,M7258,M8904,M7255,7016,M787 > BACKPLANE DD11-P (5) > FLIP CHIP: M873YB,M792, M7930, M7822(3),M7228,M792YL,M7213 > VAX LA180-RM205 (5) > RKV 11D > LA36 POWER BOARD (3) > FILP CHIP: M7251, M7892(4), M7800(21), M8290(3), M7822, M7822,M7271, > M8293,M7856(3),M7258 > BACK PLANE MF11-UP > MM11-S > RD51 AND RD50 > 11502X > CENTRIONIC CONNECTORS > TCO2 CONNECTOR > FLIP CHIP MDB-DR11C > 2 BOXES OF PLACTICS HARDWARE FOR HANGING PANEL CONERS 12" > BOARD RESTRANTS AND EXTENTIONS > DV11-KB > VERSATEC C-PDP11/DMA CONTROLS > BLOCKS FOR BACKPLANES INTERFACES > BREAD BOARDS > BACK PLANE EXTENSIONS > ASSORTED HARDWARE > PLESSEY PERIPHERALS SYSTEMS P/N 701792-100 > UNIBUS CABLE INTERFACE P/N BCOGR-10 > P/N BC212-10 CENTRONICS CABLE > TU58-K TAPES (5) > BRADY WIRE MAKER > EMULEX CS21 PROMS TO MAKE DZ11 > RS32 CONNECTOR CABLE > CENTRONIC CONNECTOR CABLE > 8" FLOPPY DOOR LATCH 11703-121-H1 (3) > CHERRY LK001-A KEYBOARDS (2) > CALAHAN SYSTEM BOARD DQ60 > LA 180 LOGIC BOARD (3) > M7270 BOARD > DECTAPE II TU58-XB RA LI5/ETCH E ORHIGHR MODULE WITH SERIAL INTERFACE > PDP POWER CONTOLLER > DEC TAPE II 7420642-00 MODEL TU58-XA > MODEL SP-PS2 POWER SUPPLY SOTEC CO , LTD > ASSORTED CABLES > TEST CONNECTORS > H3271 5012566D (4) > H325 5011698 CC > ISS 701 TERMINATOR PN 76000696-1 > CAPACITORS CABLES > PAPER TAPE TRAY > DIGITAL AIR FILTER PART# 121309-00 SERIAL # 1141 > BOARD SERIAL #O3752, 5167100219 > BOARD CONNECTOR > CLEANING SUPPLY FOR SYSTEMS > FERRITRONIC LTD ACTIVE FILTER MODEL 8200-3 > CONSOLE 25 FOOTER BC22A-25 > VERSATEC INK JET PRINTER ASSEMBLY > RD 52-A DISK DRIVE > LA 36 MPC M728(2) > LA 36 POWER BOARD > MAINTENANCE HARDWARE H041AA > > _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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vax 4000 108 on ebay

by fernande＠internet1.net

Priced a little high :-) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2033046044 Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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[CCTECH] Fwd: Re: *** OLD (DEC/PDP) COMPUTER PARTS

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Robert F Schaefer > > > Bob --- > > Heh heh... These are the same lists I just sent, aren't they? :) > > Yup. :) Better to get it twice than not at all, IMHO. > > Bob > Hell yeah, I hear that. Especially when it's old computer equipment that needs a new home. Between this list, and the guys over at NetBSD/Vax, I bet almost all of this stuff gets picked up by us collectors and users... :) -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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[CCTECH] Fwd: Re: *** OLD (DEC/PDP) COMPUTER PARTS

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Bob --- Heh heh... These are the same lists I just sent, aren't they? :) > ---------- > From: Robert F Schaefer > > <<File: alist3_parts.txt>> > > Hopefully the attachment is still attached... I also have the first two > lists, if there is any interest in them. 'Mail Jon if you're interested > *and able to pick up*. I don't think he would be able to ship anything. > > Bob > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: *** OLD COMPUTER PARTS > From: Jon Ikoniak <ikoniak(a)snowhite.cis.temple.edu> > To: Robert Schaefer <rschaefe(a)gcfn.org> > > > > Here is my third list of DEC stuff. > > Jon > > > > -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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RT-11 on a PRO (was Re: Stuff available...)

by pat＠purdueriots.com

On Sun, 4 Jan 1970, David Betz wrote: > I'd like to find a good home for the following equipment: > > DEC VT-180 "Robin" with dual 5.25" floppy drives I wish I was near NH... > RT-11 distribution for the Pro-380 Hey, this reminds me of something I though of earlier. Would it be possible (not necessarly legal) to use a copy of RT-11 'for SimH' on the pro-3{5|8}0 ? Also, how would I go about getting data from an RX-50 from the PRO into an image that SimH likes? I've got access to a DOS and Linux box with a 5.25" HD drive that I've used to successfully make copies of RX-50's with teledisk. Is there a readily availble program, or will I have to go play with INT 13h on my DOS machine to try and copy things into an image file? Thanks -- Pat

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RA82 belt tension adjustment, how?

by m_thompson＠ids.net

Replacing the starting capacitors in the RA81 disk fixed the spinup problem. They are a cylinder about 2" in diameter and 4" long and located behind and below the HDA. They take about 10 minutes to replace. Michael Thompson E-Mail: M_Thompson(a)IDS.net

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Bulk Tape Eraser

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Chris > > > Or a drink coaster. The circuit boards is good as a backer for a > >notepad. And use the cases for banks, letter holder, pen holder, etc... > > Humm... I have a few dead drives here... maybe I'll yank the boards, use > some small hinges, and make myself a note pad case (I've seen them for > sale before, but never with components on them) > > But I think if I start making all my office desk items from used computer > parts, then the staff here will REALLY think I have gone insane... then > again, maybe that will be a good thing, they'll stay out of my office > (barricading the door and covering the floor with electronic junk hasn't > stopped them... it just makes them trip when trying to come near my desk) > Well, the 3' x 5' Jolly Roger flag on my wall has slowed them down a bit. :) Not to mention that my "office" is really in the back of the printer room, I just used some 7' cabinets to form a wall, so my office is sort of "hidden". -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Lisa Pascal

by paulrsm＠buckeye-express.com

> Do any of you folks know where to disk find images of Lisa > Pascal/Development kit? Check out the following two eBay auctions: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2032923599 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2032088987 I purchased a copy of the second one for the Apple II software. You will need an old Macintosh to create the images. Paul R. Santa-Maria Monroe, Michigan USA

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Wirth's first DEC Pascal Compiler

by paulrsm＠buckeye-express.com

> Anyone have a copy of this DECtape ? > More likely it was a compiler/pcode interpreter > for a PDP10or 11, but I could be wrong. Year: 1969-70 I have the NBS (National Bureau of Standards) Pascal compiler for the PDP-11 if you want it. It is written in Pascal except for the run-time library. It appears to be part of a DECUS tape dated Fall 1980. > I was able to find source for a pascal -s compiler > http://hjem.get2net.dk/bnielsen/pascals1.html A lot of links to Pascal-S are close by: http://hjem.get2net.dk/bnielsen/pascals.html Paul R. Santa-Maria Monroe, Michigan USA

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Non-DEC SCSI tape drives with VMS

by bob_lafleur＠technologist.com

Has anyone successfully used non-DEC SCSI tape (cartridge) drives with VMS? If so, what types have you been successful with? Travan? DAT? 8mm? Which models? I just hooked up an HP SureStore TR4, and it's recognized, the device is an HP T4000s. But when I try to access it (INIT a tape, etc) I get a "parity error". I don't have any Travan-4 tapes though, just Travan-5 tapes, so that's what I tried... Could that cause a parity error?

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Timex Sinclair 1000 Update and Questions

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> > Headphone socket to "Ear" on the TS-1000. I didn't hook up the > Mic-mic line. Glad you mentioned that -- don't hook up both cables at the same time or strange things may happen. Also, what tapes do you have? I'm working on completing the entire set as produced by Timex Computer Corp. and might be interested. Later -- Glen 0/0

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Zebra Systems (was Re: Timex Sinclair 1000 Update and Questions)

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Gene Buckle <geneb(a)deltasoft.com> > Glen, isn't there a company out there somewhere that is selling unbuilt > kits still? I seem to recall them going for $99. Yes: Zebra Systems in NYC. BUT I suggest you exercise caution when dealing with this firm, i.e., only pay them with a charge card in case they "lose" your order or find they can't provide the products as advertised. I've had a couple of unsatisfactory dealings with them. Another gripe of mine is that in the last three years or so they've bumped the price from $29.95 to $99.95. If you do a search on eBay for "timex,sinclair" you'll often find Zebra selling kits there, usually with a starting bid of $49, so you can save a lot by going that route. The kits themselves (I've built at least two or three) are great. They're not exactly identical to the original retail versions (no original Sinclair BASIC manual, Zebrafied assembly instructions instead of original) but they work, and one advantage is that the RF modulator (if you care to use it -- I don't) is UHF instead of VHF and provides a much cleaner signal. Later -- Glen 0/0

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Bulk Tape Eraser

by mythtech＠mac.com

> Or a drink coaster. The circuit boards is good as a backer for a >notepad. And use the cases for banks, letter holder, pen holder, etc... Humm... I have a few dead drives here... maybe I'll yank the boards, use some small hinges, and make myself a note pad case (I've seen them for sale before, but never with components on them) But I think if I start making all my office desk items from used computer parts, then the staff here will REALLY think I have gone insane... then again, maybe that will be a good thing, they'll stay out of my office (barricading the door and covering the floor with electronic junk hasn't stopped them... it just makes them trip when trying to come near my desk) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Indigo2 and Exabyte 8200

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 18, 10:14, Jeff Hellige wrote: > Well I finally found a system that still likes my Exabyte > 8200. My Mac's have never liked it and my Amiga's were tempermental > with it, not always working. My SGI Indigo2 appears to happily deal > with it though, even if it is quite slow. Is there a way of making a > backup done to it bootable? I don't know for sure that it works with an Exabyte 8200, but look for an executable file called mkboottape (and then "man mkboottape" and distcp -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Philips and auction finds (was: I hate Radio Shack)

by kees.stravers＠iae.nl

On 2002-06-17 cctalk(a)classiccmp.org said to kees.stravers(a)iae.nl >>Back to something more on topic... This last week at auction, I >>picked up one of the oldest cd writers I've ever seen, which is >>ironically made by Philips. It appears to have a SCSI interface, Why is this ironically? Philips and Sony developed the CD standard together, so it would be natural that the oldest writers are Philips and Sony ones. Sadly I don't have one, they were incredibly expensive in those days. I do have the CM-100 and CM-110, the earliest Philips CD readers. Those were built like tanks and still work today. Kees. -- kees.stravers(a)iae.nl Geldrop, The Netherlands http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/ Member of Insomniacs Anonymous Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Registered

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RF output DOES NOT equal Composite!!!!

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 18, 13:30, Andreas Freiherr wrote: > Is the "Belling Lee Coaxial Plug" what I know as an IEC-type 75 Ohm > connector? - It has a larger diameter than F connectors, and is neither > threaded nor otherwise locked (not like BNC, for instance). Probably. I've certainly seen the plugs we use, in Germany (or at least, in Austria). Have a look at http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/21296.pdf and see if the picture matches. Or look up DIN45325/IEC169-2 > Balanced (unshielded) cable for TV antennas had been in use in Germany, > too, but it had 240 Ohms impedance, and it was replaced by 75 Ohm Coax > about at the time when valves were replaced by transistors. We used to have 300-ohm twin feeder for VHF (about 86-106MHz) FM radio antennae, but it's rare now. Mostly 75-ohm coax. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Lisa software archives

by Marion.Bates＠Dartmouth.EDU

Hi folks, A few years ago, I posted a webpage about Lisa/MacXL technical info: <http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~woz/>. I intend to add more stuff to it...someday. It's still up, but I noticed the other day that the Lisa software archive, hosted on a separate ftp server, was unreachable. I guess the sysadmin closed it down. However I snagged the files from a backup and moved them, temporarily, to my own machine (which has a semi-static IP, broadband). So, if anyone needs a copy of (de-serialized) Lisa Office System, LisaTest, MacWorks, etc. the disk images are now here: <http://66.177.162.74/lisa-files/> The link on the website has been updated as well. If any of you (Sellam?) had listed the ftp link separately, please update. I'll send another note when I have the new, permanent home for these files. Thanks, -- MB

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OT: RE: Bulk Tape Eraser

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

You can always try cleaning them ;) http://www.pcnineoneone.com/howto/cleandrive1.html http://www.datadocktorn.nu/us_frag1.php -----Original Message----- From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:DAW@yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:15 PM To: 'cctalk(a)classiccmp.org' Subject: RE: Bulk Tape Eraser > From: Chris > > > Bottom line . . . demag a HD and it becomes > >a doorstop. > > I prefer to take them apart and make wind chimes from the platters. > > -chris > Or a drink coaster. The circuit boards is good as a backer for a notepad. And use the cases for banks, letter holder, pen holder, etc... Sorry. Brain wandering OT again. Hopefully you'll at least chuckle at me, if not with me. :) -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Some Lisa Questions

by jingber＠ix.netcom.com

I have a floppy problem with a Lisa 2/10 (MacXL ?): After inserting a disk, a dialog appears (MacWorks XL) stating that the disk isn't formatted (it is). If I chose to eject the disk, the spindle motor continues to rotate. This doesn't happen during all ejects - it's an intermittent problem, but I have never been able to read from the floppy. This is a 400K drive. 1) I have cleaned the stepper cam, the head, and the ejection path and have lubricated various parts. The head travels properly and the ejection motor is functional. Where should I proceed? 2) The front fascia doesn't align properly due to the front of the 400K floppy protruding a few millimeters. The front will snap into place properly on the left 'catch', but is bulging out on the right catch. I can't see why this is so, as the drive case is flush with the chassis, and there is no possibility of the floppy sitting too far forward due to the recessed mounting screws. The floppy appears to be just too long (?) Has anyone else seen this. 3) Mouse related: How is the mouse supposed to secure to the connector on the motherboard? The mouse has the standard two thumbscrews, but the motherboard is lacking the metal jacket that would normally contain two nuts to recieve the connector screws - it's just the black plastic DB-9 connector. Something seems missing in this picture. Any clues? Thanks, Jeffrey H. Ingber (jingber _at_ ix.netcom.com)

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Timex Sinclair 1000 Update and Questions

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

Hey Doc -- > From: Doc Shipley <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> > Well. I was roaming yesterday and found a very nice old Macy's dress > box. In it was a TS-1000 with the TS-1016 16k memory cartridge, manuals > cables, and around 10 tapes, including PIM apps & games. After > soldering a broken joint on the m/b [1], running to WallyWorld at 2:00am > for a 300ohm-to-75ohm converter, and finally figuring out that I needed > to turn the brightness all the way up on the TV, the little booger > works. Cool! Welcome to the international ZX81/TS-1000 community. There are LOTS of us out here still finding new applications for these things. > This is the first computer I've had that was in need of board-level > repair to start with, simple enough to ID the problem (and not too > densely populated), and common and cheap enough to "risk" non-essential > modifications. Which makes it darn near perfect, IMHO. If only it were just a little tiny bit faster ;>) > Texas Instruments trained me as a "Certified Solder > Sucker" or whatever in 1982, but I really haven't done any electronics > work since. I build cables, solder all the joints on auto work, and > stuff, but till last night had truly forgotten the joys of eutectic > solder. Also till last night, I had truly not realized how much worse > my eyesight has gotten.... Yeah, that sucks. I need a really bright light about eight inches away >from the work and a super-fine tip to do anything intricate anymore. It's hell getting old but it sure beats the alternative . . . > The card-edge cartridge connector is worn nearly through the traces on > the m/b. If the computer is jostled much at all, it loses the RAM and > its little mind. Next mod will be to do some (cheesy, yes I know) wire > patching to the finger traces. Or, you can make a cable to run between the computer and the RAM pack. Or, you can make supports for both so that each is stable. Or, you can adapt or buy a full-size keyboard so that the vibration from typing doesn't disturb the components. > I joked last night about just going to the thrifts for a $5 B&W TV, > but my experience with tuning and brightness matches Jeff Hellige's > comments, and I may do exactly that if I keep this. What I'll more > likely do is try Glen Goodwin's idea and tap the composite signal off > the motherboard. Yeah, I sent you the schematic earlier. Hope it helped. If you run some wires from the pcb to the empty forward part of the shell, and use an in-line female RCA jack, everything fits nicely inside (except the jack) and the wires connected to the RCA jack will easily pass through the shell near the "earphone" jack. > The major question concerns the program tapes. I tried hooking up to > my stereo, the only cassette player I have anymore, and at any volume, > it just blows the Timex away. The display goes to hell, it doesn't seem > to "read" the program, and the display stays scrambled even after the > cassette stops. The manual states that a "Hi-Fi" tape deck, as opposed > to a cheap battery-driven portable, may be the source of problems. Does > anybody have a suggestion or solution? My instinct is that my cheap > stereo does enough EQ (not optional) to "blur" the signal. Finding an appropriate cassette recorder can be a challenge, so I would suggest that you don't hunt for one using tapes of unknown quality. First, try SAVEing a one line program onto a good-quality (doesn't have to be great, just good) new blank cassette. Then re-LOAD the program. Try different volume levels. This is the only way to verify that the recorder is suitable for both operations. Then try LOADing your other tapes. Last time I had to hunt for a suitable cassette machine (four years or so ago) I went through several, including a nice Sony, before I found that the best match was a Radio Shack (can't believe I'm writing this) Optimus. Cost about $40, but worth it if you plan on using the TS-1000 very often. > One of the websites I found last night quotes the promo for the 16k > cartridge - something like "With the addition of 16 kilobytes of memory, > the Timex Sinclair 1000 could conceivably store a program of 960 lines, > but of course. no programmer would ever need to..." ROFL! Which site? The payroll program I wrote and used at Consolidated Electronics was well over 960 lines so I had to use a 64KB pack. For tons of info, links, etc. please visit our ZX-TEAM website at: http://home.t-online.de/home/p.liebert/zx-team.htm For a nice listing of available hardware, try Jack Boatwright's site: http://www3.outlawnet.com/~jboatno4/ Of course, I'll be glad to help you as much as I can, so if you have any questions please don't hesitate. Later -- Glen 0/0

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VCF Gazette Volume 1 Issue 2

by mranalog＠attbi.com

You wrote: > See photos from VCF Europa 3.0 here: > http://www.vintage.org/gallery.php?title=VCF%20Europa%203.0&grouptag=VCFEUR… > Gaby Chaudry, VCF Europa 3.0 Exhibitor and CP/M Archive maintainer, > has more pictures of VCF Europa 3.0 exhibits here: > http://www.gaby.de/vcfpics/vcf3gaby/index.htm Why is it that a PC-5000 is described as a "Sharp PC-5000", a Cyber 960 is described as a "Control Data Corporation Cyber 960", an CPC is described as a "Amstrad CPC", ..... a "IBM 3270", ..... an "Apollo Domain", ..... a "Sinclair QL", but the VCF Europa 3.0 1st place Best of Show is described as an "analog computer"? I want to thank Gaby Chaudry for at least displaying a picture this computer. --Doug The Analog Computer Museum has a new display of many fine Telefunken computers at: http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog/tele.htm ========================================= Doug Coward @ home in Poulsbo, WA Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog =========================================

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Computers in cars (was: I hate Radio Shack

by geoff＠pkworks.com

>In Wellington, New Zealand, a large proportion of the traffic lights in >the central city (A city of 450,000 people) is controlled by a PDP11/34a. >This 11/34a has been in place since 1981, I believe, and since it just >continually does its job, its yet to be replaced. >They use a VAX of some description as a backup unit. > >At last count - which was maybe 3 or 4 years ago now - the unit hadn't >been power cycled since '84. > The really amazing part to all this is that they apparently haven't had a power failure in 18 years...

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Sioux City hamfest

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

Not much to report here, nice turnout, and a few odd items worth noting . . . . . There was a Fluke something, that looked like some sort of terminal that set up data acquisition on an IEE-488 buss. He had the complete unit and software and docs. All I remember is that the CRT had a 2:1 aspect ratio. I'm sure this will turn on some of you obscure stuff collectors. Gateway had a nominal presence there, but nothing worth noting, just some PC stuff. I did pick up a Commodore MPS-801 printer . . . are ribbons still available and for how much??? If I can't get any ribbons, I'll just contribute it to someone who wants to give it a nice home and call the dollar invested a loss. I even found one (wished there were more) AUI to 10 base T transceiver. Now I can check out my Amiga ethernet boards, if the Xcvr is okay . . . . . Two TRS80 Model 100's were there for $50, with books. I was tempted, but I passed them by. I'm sure I'll kick myself later on. One last mention, not in line with this topic, but I do have an original DEC (quantum) 240 Meg HD for trade. I have a surplus of Quantum drives, and I have used this one on my Amiga with no problems. If you want one for your DEC contact me off-list and we'll work out a trade or something interesting. Gary Hildebrand St. Joseph, MO

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One SCSI tape connected to 2 hosts?

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

There are SCSI sharing devices out there that will allow one device to be hooked to 2 machines concurrently.

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DEC QBUS buffers/control chips

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>Intersting you mention the DHV11 as I've just been looking at the printset >for the board as I have one here with the square component at the top between >the two ribbon connectors broken off. looks like a 56uH choke or inductor or >thingymabob. Something to do with the DC-DC convertor to generate -12V for >the RS232 drviers I think. Wonder if I can repace it with a bit of wire :) I'll ask one of the designers when he gets back from his hols :-) Since I think it is a voltage regulator of some sort, I suspect the answer is no. The only dead board I ever knowingly found in the pile of cards that I inherited back in the lab at DEC was a DHV11 and it had had that very component knocked off. >Who runs the Spies.com site, are they here on cctalk perchance? Wish there That's Al Kossow and he's certainly here (and there and evrywhere ...) >was a worlwide central resource for getting manuals scanned, OCRd, PDFd and http://www.decdocs.org points to the main ones. There are a few more that come and go, plus a scattering of sites with just one or two manuals. I don't know of anyone trying any serious OCR - the technology has leaped forward in recent years, but not to the point that it "just works". Given that there are somewhere between 300 and 700 DEC manuals online (just an estimate) any OCR process has to be more or less one button push (i.e. as effortless as straight scanning can be). > online. I must do the RSX11M+ v4.1 orange wall I have at some point... If you can get Mentec to agree to having them made available (ask about bits of RSX and RT-11 V5 while you are at it ...) then let me know and I'll get the CDs online. I did ask but I've not heard anything back. Antonio

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DEC QBUS buffers/control chips

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>eventually found a description of the DC003, 004, 005, 006 & 010 in "The >Chipkit Users Guide" on the QBUS IDE project page at >http://www.chd.dyndns.org/qbus_ide/ Hit SEND a tad early on that other one! Various DEC manuals describe various DEC chips in their appendices. The DHV11 tech manual happens to cover all of the above except the DC006. One copy lives at http://www.spies.com/~aek/pdf/dec/qbus/ I have not read that chipkit manual, but the DHV11 manual includes a schematic so you get a free reference design. Antonio

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[CCTECH] RE: FW: AVAILABLE-- PDP, DEC (list 1)

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Here is list number 1. Hopefully we can help save this stuff from the scrapper... -- --- David A Woyciesjes > ---------- > > This list is from Jon Ikoniak (ikoniak(a)snowhite.cis.temple.edu). > Please contact him with any offers and/or questions. It sounds like some > of > the bigger stuff needs to move ASAP... > > -- > > > > From: Jon Ikoniak (ikoniak(a)snowhite.cis.temple.edu) > > > > > NOTE: The following list was put together by an assistant who was not very familiar with this type of technology. This is a list of most of the small parts we still have in cabinets. This list should be used as a reference. We still have a number of schematics, user manuals, and other assorted documentation that we need to make a list up to send out. We also have a number of assorted electronic items we need to make a list up. Also there are still some larger items such as racks, processors, disks, etc, that need to be put into a list and sent out. We will do so as soon as we can. power cable computer connect cable #BC22E-25 /8149-000 2 computer monitor backs #4433422-01 power control 854 2 power control 832F 4 fan units P/N 70-8762with battery holder P/N 70-08769 Flip chip M105C #342B Flip chip control model# H716 P/N 30-09282 Rev Disc Motor #DF32-D/E, DS32-D/E and under this # DF-32, DS-32 Power Control (Aux Bat Term) P/N 70-14547-3d (h712A) Etchmaster 105067 2 power control 854 P/N 854 Disk control model RK11DSN AS18466 Power control 841A power supply h7420 a (h744,h744,h744,h745) power supply w/ big fans 7009811 47-63Hz 12 amps 1 power control 834 family 1 power control 854 family power supply h872 2 power supply h735 power outlet (PDP) 2 Back plane 877-D power controller H711ATODC Power supply 2 7116 Power supply H 711 A power supply (3) 2 h798 power supplies with 2 capacitors each h 704 power supply power supply P/N 54-11085 RX11 controller back plane with chip # W7257, W7256, W7255 RP08 Back Plane with Chip # W623, M111, W623, M216, M115, M102 Back PlaneRK11-D with Chip # M727, M7256, M7255, M7254(2) Back plane ? Chip # M206 M216 M206 M103 M510(2) M624 M623 M002 M206 M121 M621 M304 M627 M111 M103 M921 DC02F Double high back plates Model# h716 #NN00117 Chip # M115 M113 M111 M002(3) M216(2) M623(3) M 452 M111 M617 M 921 M304 M304 M921 M 216(2) M45 M707 M623(2) 2 sets of mounting brackets for hardware devices 5 fans power supply h7440 011-08070-60 copler 24K static RAM Micro Vax Back plane SER117C PERCOM H730 (5) H7100 A (3) power supply h753 power supply h7100 A power supply h735 power supply h721 (2) power supply h724 Demagnetizer #6501 power supply h779 power controller for RM04 // RM05 P/N 9600410-00 Power supply h728 (4) h317E (mulitiplxer) (2) Power supply h716-b (3) Power supply h719 Power supply 716 Motherboard B4062 RAX 'D' FSA 165506 LED BOARD Printer option distribution board #'s 50116670-P2 and 5411668 side2 G753 Board Power control 841-B Power supply h-754 (2) power supply h-744 (5) power supply h-745 (5) dec power controls 861C (2) Power control 861C power supply 7721a additional power supplies (h744, h744, h744, h745 h754) power supply h771-a power supply h764 power supply h 720e power control 861 B Model OB11-VA P/N BA11-VA Expansion boxes Model BALL-ME P/N h780-E Expansion boxes P/N 780-A DCA-9-25-73 10B (4) DCA 9-10-73 10C (7) DCA 9-27-73 10A (2) DCA 8174 (2) DCA 9-6-73 Power supply h771-a (3) power control BC05h Power supply 716 (4) TA 71403597 Board 1210328-0-0 Rev B interface to power supply h740 a P/n 70-09128 P/n 704 Va Power control 861F Type AD1-D Power control 844-B P/N70-20771-OB Ta71403633 board Power control 861A Power control 861C control panel for disk drive with connector m900B Led display front panel for a PDP ( Deck controller) Print head motor Assembly (LA36 or La180) CABLES Thick wire transceiver cable BNE3D-20 (5) 20 Amp 125/250 volts 4 prong hubbell cable printer cable connector N9700 BC11S-25 Double ended berg interface cable Transiver cable R232 25 pin male/female cable AUI cable BNE3K-05 (3) AUI cable BNE3K-02 (2) AUI cable BCCO6-15 AMIHNOL 57-30360 Computer power connetor cables (10) coaxial cables (4) one with P/N 70-19690-08 Thickwire transciver cable T-DP605 LA180 berg cable Printer cable connector One good end berg cable type? Computer power connectors (2) Power Distributor 5010863D 5410865 Unibus cables for rk devices BC11A-05 (2) Ribbon cables W-584(2) 2051579 007 RH-11AB Front display panel for PDP (3) Multiplexer Control panel for PDP system Controller P/N 70-11411-OK Controller P/N 70-14093 Controller P/N 70-14093 Power control 860-a power supply 708A P/N H-403-A (3) Power supply h745 (3), h744 (5), h 754 (2). Back Panel two high M51579 5409912 500991C ConectorsJ2-J11 M7728 LA36 MPC Ld340 Panel 5DTD1%1006 Rev Panel 161G16 ,P/N50452 Panel M77287C LA 31 Board LA 30 with boards M113, M7711, M7712,M7713, M7714, M7710, M7717, M7717, M7711, M7712. M7713, M7714, M7710, M7711, G436, M7715,G380 (4). LA30 with boards M77112, M7713, M7711, M7711, G8004, M7712, M 7713, G936, M7715, G380 (4). Phoenix 45 SU model 400-005-900 LA30 with borads M7721, M7712, M7713, M7724,M7710,M7717,M7717,G8004,G8004,M7721,M7716,G936,M7715,G380 (4). LA30 with boards M7389,M7731,M598,M7721,M7712,M7713,M7724,M7710,M7717 (2),M7710, M7716, 6336, M715,G380 (4) LA30 M7388,M7731,M598,M973,M7721,M7713,M7724,M7710,M7717 (2), M7716, 6036, M7715,G380(4) VT-62 IO Board Type1 94VO VT-62 MEM Board 916D (2) LA36 Power board P/N 7340624Z LA36 Power board P/N7160445W LA36 Power board P/N 8070860Z Unibus Paddle M9042 5012661B Unibus term M9044 5012749B UBA EXP box power dist 5409944 5009943A DD11-B Back plane RK11-D back plane DD11-A back plane MF11-4 back plane DD11-A back plane KD11-A Back plane MF11-CC Back plane 11/05 S back plane Ke11 Back plane Power Control 861 Power Control P/N 874-D 70-0956 3 Back plane VT-11 Back plane DD11-CK Back plane (2) DD11-B Back plane (2) P/N 70-09563 KE11-A Back plane with boards M827,M7211,234,M7220 ERROR CORRECTION LOGIC M773,M7787,M7775,M7776,M7774,M7787,M773,M7786 (4) M7772,M775,M7772,M7774,M7776,M7787,M7773,M7776,M7773,7776,M7774, M7773, 7776. M7775,M7772 Back plane with Board G110,G231,G110,G231,G110,G231 MIN DEVICE LEVEL INTERFACE BOARD M5903 (46),M7777 (7),M778(6),M7788(7),M7789(6) dec unibus M981 16k unibus timing M8293 (2) 16k x-y drive with board G235,M7234,G14,H2179, G235(2), H2170, G114,M7232,M7235, M7233,M7231 Back Panel with board (MF114 model) M8293, G114,G235,G114,M8293 _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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[CCTECH] FW: AVAILABLE-- PDP, DEC parts

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

This list is from Jon Ikoniak (ikoniak(a)snowhite.cis.temple.edu). Please contact him with any offers and/or questions. It sounds like some of the bigger stuff needs to move ASAP... -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash > > From: Jon Ikoniak (ikoniak(a)snowhite.cis.temple.edu) > > > > Here is my third list of DEC stuff. > > > > Jon > > > > It is a first come and take to a good home deal. We would rather > see these things go to good homes. We are in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. > We do pack and ship some items, it depends. Most of is 'come & get it'. > > Below is another list of items that we have had and now > we have put into a new list. This list is different from the > other two previous lists that were sent out. In addition we > have lost the area where we have been keeping the bigger items. > So things like the PDP racks and VAX racks have to be moved > out SOON. We would like to get homes for these big items since > I know that they are becoming harder to come by. So if you are > interested or know anyone who maybe in these items please let > me know. We are still working on a list of manuals, schematics > and other types of documents, which we hope to be ready soon. > > 1 VAX era 3 FT. short rack with RA81 Disk Drive > 1 VAX era 3 FT. short rack with RX02 8" floppy drive > 1 VAX era 3 FT. short rack with MICRO VAX casing > 1 VAX era 3 FT. short rack empty > 1 VAX era 5 FT. tall rack with two BA11 expansion boxes. > 1 VAX era 5 FT. tall rack with RL02 & RL01 removaable disk packs > 1 VAX era 5 FT. tall rack with RX02 8" floppy drive > 1 VAX era 5 FT. tall rack empty > 10 DEC RX01 and RX02 8" floppy disk drive units > 20 LA100 DEC printers/terminals > 6 LA34 DEC printers > 5 Printronix printers > 4 LA120 DEC Printers/Terminals > 1 LA36 DEC Printer > > 1 DEC PDP 11 4 FT. rack with RK05 removeable disk pack unit > 1 DEC PDP 11 4 FT. rack empty > 1 DEC PDP 11 6 FT. rack empty > 1 DEC PDP 11 4 FT. rack empty > 1 DEC PDP 11 4 FT. rack empty > 1 Short 3 FT. rack with RK05 removable disk pack unit > 3 DEC PDP 8/12 6 FT. Racks empty. > > > 2 DEC TU10 10" magnectic reel tape unit driver motors > 1 DEC MICRO 11 backplane part no. M-9278-A > 1 VERSATEC in jet printer unit > Large number of various RK05 disk packs > Large number of RL01 & RL02 disk packs > A number of MASS bus cable pieces and terminators > Various lengths of MASS bus cables for RPxx series > 1 DEC PDP 11 DH11-AE backplane interface with various boards > M5906 M7821 (2), M796 M7280 (2), M7279 M4540 M7288 M7289 > M7277 M7278 > 1 KW12 Clock Control panel with cabling > 1 PDP12 Series panel (Analog Channels 10-17) (Relay Register) > 1 TEKTRONIX Type 601 Storage Display Unit > Numerous 16 Port Multiplexors for PDP 11 configurations > Several BA11 Expansion Boxes Deep > Numerous VT220 & VT240 Terminals > Numerous and various lengths of AUI Network Calbles > Numerous H4000 Tansceivers > > _______________________________________________ cctech mailing list cctech(a)classiccmp.org http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech

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DEC QBUS buffers/control chips

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

> > Does anyone know of a web resource describing the functionality of the > > DEC QBUS interface chips, like the DC003(A), DC004, DC005, DC010, > > DC021(C) and others? > > > eventually found a description of the DC003, 004, 005, 006 & 010 in "The > Chipkit Users Guide" on the QBUS IDE project page at > http://www.chd.dyndns.org/qbus_ide/ > > > greg >

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Timex Sinclair 1000 Update and Questions

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Well. I was roaming yesterday and found a very nice old Macy's dress box. In it was a TS-1000 with the TS-1016 16k memory cartridge, manuals cables, and around 10 tapes, including PIM apps & games. After soldering a broken joint on the m/b [1], running to WallyWorld at 2:00am for a 300ohm-to-75ohm converter, and finally figuring out that I needed to turn the brightness all the way up on the TV, the little booger works. This is the first computer I've had that was in need of board-level repair to start with, simple enough to ID the problem (and not too densely populated), and common and cheap enough to "risk" non-essential modifications. Texas Instruments trained me as a "Certified Solder Sucker" or whatever in 1982, but I really haven't done any electronics work since. I build cables, solder all the joints on auto work, and stuff, but till last night had truly forgotten the joys of eutectic solder. Also till last night, I had truly not realized how much worse my eyesight has gotten.... The card-edge cartridge connector is worn nearly through the traces on the m/b. If the computer is jostled much at all, it loses the RAM and its little mind. Next mod will be to do some (cheesy, yes I know) wire patching to the finger traces. I joked last night about just going to the thrifts for a $5 B&W TV, but my experience with tuning and brightness matches Jeff Hellige's comments, and I may do exactly that if I keep this. What I'll more likely do is try Glen Goodwin's idea and tap the composite signal off the motherboard. The major question concerns the program tapes. I tried hooking up to my stereo, the only cassette player I have anymore, and at any volume, it just blows the Timex away. The display goes to hell, it doesn't seem to "read" the program, and the display stays scrambled even after the cassette stops. The manual states that a "Hi-Fi" tape deck, as opposed to a cheap battery-driven portable, may be the source of problems. Does anybody have a suggestion or solution? My instinct is that my cheap stereo does enough EQ (not optional) to "blur" the signal. One of the websites I found last night quotes the promo for the 16k cartridge - something like "With the addition of 16 kilobytes of memory, the Timex Sinclair 1000 could conceivably store a program of 960 lines, but of course. no programmer would ever need to..." Doc

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I hate Radio Shack

by Antonio.Carlini＠riverstonenet.com

>I don't think I learnt _one_ thing at school that has since been useful Not even wreading, riting and writhmetic :-) Antonio

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[CCTECH] Fwd: Re: *** OLD (DEC/PDP) COMPUTER PARTS

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

Hopefully the attachment is still attached... I also have the first two lists, if there is any interest in them. 'Mail Jon if you're interested *and able to pick up*. I don't think he would be able to ship anything. Bob -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: *** OLD COMPUTER PARTS From: Jon Ikoniak <ikoniak(a)snowhite.cis.temple.edu> To: Robert Schaefer <rschaefe(a)gcfn.org> Here is my third list of DEC stuff. Jon

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Bulk Tape Eraser

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Chris > > > Bottom line . . . demag a HD and it becomes > >a doorstop. > > I prefer to take them apart and make wind chimes from the platters. > > -chris > Or a drink coaster. The circuit boards is good as a backer for a notepad. And use the cases for banks, letter holder, pen holder, etc... Sorry. Brain wandering OT again. Hopefully you'll at least chuckle at me, if not with me. :) -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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Bulk Tape Eraser

by mythtech＠mac.com

>yeah, they work great on floppies, even on some with soft errrors that >formatting doesn't remove. Just keep in mind you'll still have to >format the floppy after the degaussing. That's actually a good thing. If the disk is wiped to the point that it needs a format from the OS, then I can toss the disks in a general use box, and not worry about which OS they are used on (Mac or DOS/Windows). This way, they can be formatted fresh for the given platform they are needed on (yes yes, the mac can read PC disks just fine, but I prefer not to do that for Mac specific uses) >Wasn't suprised to see that it doesn't do VHS tapes very well. You need >quite a bit more gauss to do those, but a hand held will do floppies, >cassettes and 1/4" tape pretty well. Ok, I guess I have to black track the stack of VHS tapes I have then. No biggie, I was just hoping to avoid running them thru a VCR for 2 hours. >To use, squeeze the trigger switch while the demagger is away from the >media, and bring it up and slide it over and around in a random pattern >for several seconds, 10-30 seconds is usually adequate, then remove the >media while holding on to the switch. This eliminates a big glitch of >magnetism on the media. Ok, not exactly the way I had been using it. I was just putting it on top of the item, turning it on, rubbing it back and forth a bit, then turning it off and removing. I'll change my ways. >What ever you do, DO NOT USE a degausser on a hard drive. There is >embedded information on the tracks for tracking, and if removed, you >need a high cost formatter. Good to know as a "fact" although I had suspected something like this anyway, so I wouldn't have done it. I also wouldn't have tried it on Zip disks, or Syquest carts or other removable "non floppy" media for fear of the same problem. I suspect it might be ok on Zip disks, but I know those are treated more like a hard drive platter than a floppy disk, so I don't consider it worth the risk. > Bottom line . . . demag a HD and it becomes >a doorstop. I prefer to take them apart and make wind chimes from the platters. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Misc For Sale

by bdwheele＠indiana.edu

I got bit by the Gas-Powered RC Truck bug so I decided its time to get rid of some parts that I'll probably never use. Darned siblings with their cool toys! Anyway, everything is working, as near as I can tell, and 'or-best-offer'. I won't ship the LaserWriter, but everything else I'll ship at the buyer's expense. I'm located in Bloomington, IN 47408. If you have any questions, feel free to email me. Brian --- the list --- NewTek Video Toaster 1.0 for Amiga S/N 002460, no software [$100] Sun CG3 (sbus/SS5) 501-2691 [$25] SGI Personal IRIS Boards [$20 for all] Magnum Audio (030-8064-004 Rev G) Video Turbo Option GT2 (030-8020-003 Rev E) Video Z Buffer Option ZB3 (030-8004-003 Rev C) Video Bitplane Option BP4 (030-8003-002 Rev C) Misc Chips [$10 for all] NEC DR3031R-40/VR3010A-40 FPU NEC DR30310R-40/VR3000A-40 CPU Weitek 3172A-025 (FPU for Sun IPC) Weitek XL-3132-100 (FPU) Motorola XC68030RC16B AMD AM29000-16GC Memorex IDE CDROM 48x (new in box, though missing some packing material) [$25] Tandy DCM-3 (26-1178) 300 Baud Modem [$5] DCM-IB (26-1175) 300 Baud Modem [$5] HP Envizex XTerm C2731A [$50] Apple LaserWriter IINTX (2MB) [$75] **WILL NOT SHIP** Toner M6002 (new) [$20] Radio Shack Color Computer 2 (2x) [$10 each] Speech/Sound Cartridge for CoCo (26-3144A) [$10]

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Now OT: Speaker boxes... [was:: I hate Radio Shack]

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

Replies to this should probably go off-list now :) > From: Kris Kirby > > On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, David Woyciesjes wrote: > > Well, my Hamer 5 string bass does quite well through the Peavey > > head, and into a homemade 4 x 12" speaker cabinet. Yeah they're some old > > generic 12" woofers, but they do 'boom' well, for now... :) > > How have you got the cab wired? Each side in paralell then in series with > the one next to it? > > This might be a much cheaper alternative for me. But I'm wondering if I > could cram a 15" into there somewhere. (15" + 4x 12"?) maybe an 8" as well > in addition to some form of dome or horn tweeter... > > -- > Let's see, each woofer is 8 ohms, so I have each side wired in parallel to their own 1/4" socket on the back, so they'll show 4 ohms. My head has two speaker jacks, so I can have it see 2 8 ohm speakers, or wire in a homemade adapter so it will see a 2 ohm load. I've been thinking about wiring in some DPDT switches, so I can flip each side between 2 & 4 ohms. Depending on how much you travel with those speakers, here's how I would set up the boxes... - 15" in a ported box, all by itself. It'll be heavy. Nice boom for the bottom end. - 4 x 12" in a sealed box. Good tight response, but still has the bottom. This could be used by itself quite nicely. - 8" (or two) in a sealed box with a good horn tweeter. This would go best used with the 15" cabinet, and an appropriate crossover. Maybe your amp has one built in*. It will also be good for practicing by yourself. Nice & tight response, and great if you play some funk style too. * My Peavey does have a built-in adjustable crossover, but it's pre-amp level. I then have to amp each side after that. One would get looped back into the Peavey, and the other to a second power amp... And hopefully you know the make and model numbers for those woofers. That will be required if you want to build the best boxes possible for them. I picked up the 2 speaker design books from Radio Shack to help with the box design. Blaupunkt also has a basic DOS program to help with box design too. The RS books had some decent rough size info for speakers, so I assumed some average-low specs for my 12s went I calculated the box size. I know the box is a little small for them. you can kinda hear it. But I don't have the test equipment needed to find the real specs for these drivers, yet :) I'm working on a spreadsheet that has all of the formulas built in, to help design different boxes. I'm not sure if I have it finished yet or not, though... -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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OT - DDS-2 drive errors on Microvax 3100, VMS 7.3

by bob_lafleur＠technologist.com

It seems like we get a lot of VMS questions here, which probably doesn't really fall directly under the list rules. I'm guilty of it too. But there's so much knowledge here, it's hard not to ask. If anyone can point me in the direction of an active VMS mailing list, I'll ask my VMS questions there instead. And if there's not one, I'd consider setting one up if there happens to be any mailing list software that works with Exchange Server 2000. ----- I've got my ARCHIVE Python (model 4326) DDS-2 drive connected to my MV3100. It is connected to that machine only (I don't have it dual-connected, as discussed in another message thread) and it's on my 2nd SCSI controller chain. When I first boot the system, the first restore I do from tape I get this message: $ backup mkb100:rob/save *.* %MOUNT-I-MOUNTED, ROB mounted on _BOB$MKB100: %BACKUP-E-READERRS, excessive error rate reading MKB100:[000000]ROB.; -SYSTEM-F-CTRLERR, fatal controller error %BACKUP-I-OPERSPEC %BACKUP-I-OPERASSIST, operator assistance has been requested I then get "fatal controller error" messages whenever I try to access the drive, until I turn it off and back on. After the above erorr, the device shows 102 errors in SHOW DEVICE. Once the drive is turned off and back on, it works fine from then on, with no problems. If I boot the system, then turn the drive off, and back on, I *still* get this message for the first restore I do. Then I turn the drive off and back on, and all is OK. If the first operation I do after booting is a backup TO tape, it goes fine with no problems. But then when I try to do a restore from tape, I still get the above error. I've updated the drive's firmware to what I believe to be the latest (28388-XXX V5.AQ). Right now I have the drive in an external enclosure to test it. I was going to mount it internally in the MV3100, but if I have to power the drive down to make it work, then internal mounting is not possible. Could it be a SCSI termination problem? The drive works flawlessly on my PC. Thanks, - Bob

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IMSAI News?

by r.stek＠snet.net

Bob Shannon - Could you expand on your comments about non-s-100? According to the website, it has a 10 slot S-100 MB, and "The IMSAI SERIES TWO utilizes the powerhouse Zilog Z8S180 microprocessor and provides a complete system on an IEEE-696 compatible S-100 board" I am somewhat interested in the machine, but not if there is NO chance of using some of my other S-100 boards in it. Bob Stek Saver of Lost Sols

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Hello?

by foo＠siconic.com

Is the list still down? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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I hate Radio Shack

by DAW＠yalepress3.unipress.yale.edu

> From: Kris Kirby > > .... > I play bass, and lacking a good amp, I process my music through a > compressor, mixer, and EQ before sending it to a $125 50Wx2 Aiwa reciever. > That Aiwa drives two Sony bookshelf speakers (8" W, 12" T, 10" D) and does > a much better job of reproducing my bass than the 10W amp's own 8" > speaker. > > Then again, that setup doesn't compare to my father's Ampeg BA-115. That's > a 100W (Class-A finals) amp with a 15" speaker. It *will* rattle the > walls. (But then again, houses aren't as thick as they used to be, nor use > as much material.) > > -- > Well, my Hamer 5 string bass does quite well through the Peavey head, and into a homemade 4 x 12" speaker cabinet. Yeah they're some old generic 12" woofers, but they do 'boom' well, for now... :) -- --- David A Woyciesjes --- C & IS Support Specialist --- Yale University Press --- (203) 432-0953 --- ICQ # - 905818 Mac OS X 10.1 - Darwin Kernel Version 5 Running since 01/22/2002 without a crash

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UCSD P System (was: Why is it that ...

by milneQDELETETHECAPITALSQ＠speed.net

> > At 06:07 PM 11/29/00 -0800, you wrote: > > >... > > >And it really didn't make PC-DOS look good. I've put a screen shot > > >of the UCSD P-system file manager prompt at: > > >http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/~korpela/gif/filer.gif. This is NOT the UCSD p-System filer, it's one belonging to a derived version of it that Apple briefly used on the Apple II. To give you a little context, this was version II of the p-System (the Roman numerals denoted architecture versions). The one released by SofTech Microsystems, on the IBM and the Sage and many others, was version IV, and it was a major overhaul. (Status of segments regularised, almost no limit on the number of segments in a system, all units swappable, dynamic linking, instruction set even more compact than before, procedural parameters, conformant arrays, semaphores, processes, etc. etc.) Including using 80 columns on the screens! (Actually you could change that in SYSTEM.CONFIG if you needed to, as seems clearly to have been done with this example). The filer used full names in its menus when it had the screen width to do so. Which was most or all of the time after those very early screens, unless, as I say, you did something to SYSTEM.CONFIG . As for making DOS look good, it made it look dreadful. I still remember the pain of migrating to Turbo Pascal, which was the BEST that DOS had to offer. Tiny file names, NO file typing (file extensions are NOT file types), terribly slow floppies, file volumes WITHOUT NAMES (which continues to this day), every program needing all its code linked into it statically, hence several copies of the same code on the same floppy -- etc etc. (DOS's only advantages: more flexible number of entries in a directory, and borrowing a poor man's version of directory trees from UNIX. The p-System only allowed 77 entries in a directory -- that was from a time when the DEC PDP-11 was popular -- and had only 1 level of "subdirectory", which was an actual subvolume file, of fixed size. And DOS was to acquire networking, whereas work on the p-System seems to have suspended before that could happen.) Oh, and the p-System had powerful wildcards, including use for mass name changes. DOS's wildcards were always weaker, and buggy. And I really did like being able to compile on a 68000 machine and run the compiled code on an 8086. Much faster turnaround time. (I once did a project where we were supposed to use the then-Microsoft Pascal on XT's for compiling -- all in native code of course. We stayed in UCSD Pascal and compiled within the p-System because it was FASTER!) > > >You may remember what those letters stand for, but I don't. > > ... > > > > For those not wanting to chase the link, it says: > > > > Filer: G, S, N, L, R, C, T, D, Q [1.1] > > > > Don't you remember? This was the security mechanism. > > You had to play a game of hangman and win before you > > could run the compiler. The person above obviously doesn't > > know the key to hangman is the vowels. I trust this misimpression is now corrected. > Hmm.... my versions show the menu as something like > > G(et, S(ave, N(ew, L(dir, R(en, C(hng, T(rans, D(ate, Q(uit > > but there are more options on an 80-column screen. > A. Milne

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PET and Magic Sac+

by foo＠siconic.com

I found two interesting items today. One is a PET 2001-8. It has the regular keyboard. Inside was an "expandaram" board that added additional RAM and some peripheral slots for the PET. The cards plugged in looked a lot like Apple ][ cards in their form factor but I assume this is some proprietary bus. Anyone have info on this? Also, found a little module that apparently plugs somewhere into an Atari ST. It's called the Magic Sac+ and on it it says "Turns your Atari into a Mac". Anyone ever use one of these? Where on the ST would this plug in to? Or is it for the Mega ST perhaps? Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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"Windows V1.0"

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Zenith changed their software packaging a few times over the years. > > This is the same packaging as what I have on OS/2 1.0, and MS-DOS > 3.3+. > > Consequently, looking back at the calendar, I think that > it's far more likely that this is Windows 2.0 or 2.1. It's not much help, but the first Z248 that we recieved had MS-DOS 3.x and Windows 1.0x floppies included with it. I've never seen a copy of Windows 2.x, however, oddly enough I recently found a shrinkwrapped copy of Windows 1.0 in the trash! On a vaguely interesting Windows 1.x note, the PC version of the game "Balance of Power" included just enough of Windows 1.x to run the game! It was the only use I ever had for Windows 1.x :^) Zane

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No IMSAI on ebay

by bpope＠wordstock.com

And thusly Richard Erlacher spake: > > Yeah ... my computer is apparently so fast that it's outrunning time again ... > <sigh> ... now if I could just get the stock market quotations for tomorrow > ... > > Actually, the motherboard I put in the temporary Netware 3.11 server I'm using > is not y2K-compliant, nor is the OS, so it has to be reminded from time to > time what year this is. You notice it doesn't know what day it is either ... > How are the messages archived? Bryan

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Sharp PC-5000 (early laptop circa 1983) for sale

by foo＠siconic.com

I'm selling a Sharp PC-5000 that is new in the box. The Sharp PC-5000 was one of the first clam-shell portables circa 1983 (the GRiD Compass and the Gavilan were it's contemporaries, as well as another one from Australia, called the DuMont or something). This is an awesome piece for any collection, especially those who collect portables and early laptops. They don't get earlier than this, and certainly not new, in the box. Pictures: The computer http://siconic.com/crap/sharp5000.jpg The box http://siconic.com/crap/sharp_box.jpg The manual http://siconic.com/crap/Sharp_us_g.jpg You also get a bubble memory module (sealed, new) http://siconic.com/crap/Sharp_Bm_box.jpg Best offer over $250 by Friday (June 17th) takes it. If there are no takers here, it goes to online auction. I accept PayPal preferably, check or money order will suffice if sent promptly. You, of course, pay all shipping charges. Please reply to <sellam(a)vintage.org> Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Update on finds

by llstelck＠cox.net

I am looking for a Gulton TR-711 Single Channel recorder. Do you know where I can find one? Larry

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RF output DOES NOT equal Composite!!!

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> > Cable and Timex are the same for channels 2 through 13 (It's called > > "VHS"). Connect the Timex and tune the TV or VCR to channel 2 or 3. > > VHS? Over here, VHS (Video Home System, I believe) is a popular format > for domestic video tapes, and is nothing to do with RF interfaces. > > -tony A typo, no doubt he means VHF. Glen 0/0

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RF output DOES NOT equal Composite!!!!

by acme_ent＠bellsouth.net

> From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> > On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Glen Goodwin wrote: > > No, but he could tap the composite signal off of the Timex pcb a feed a > > composite monitor with it. > > I think that somebody who doesn't know the difference between RF and > composite, should learn that FIRST. Granted, but the difference was well explained in posts by others. > Then get or make the appropriate cable or adapter to connect the > unmodified unit and confirm that it works, BEFORE making amateur > modifications. The leads carrying the composite signal are bare, and exposed. A pair of clip leads is all that's required to gain access to that signal. > THEN, he should make the mods and connect it to a composite monitor. Sure, but if he's having trouble finding a modern TV with a tuner that "likes" the TS1000 (most modern TVs don't), then using clip leads to grab the signal would at least verify functionality of the computer. Bearing in mind that the TS1000 has been described as "common as cockroaches" (Sellam Ismael) and "an educational toy" (Richard Erlacher), plus the fact that the ZX81 was originally sold as a kit and zillions of them were assembled by schoolchildren, I think my advice was reasonably appropriate. Feeling grumpy today, Fred? ;>) Glen 0/0

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