I have a M0100 mouse in good condition.
Contact me for if you are still looking.
Ed Chapel
Vancouver WA USA
>From: "Arthur Odekerken" <admin(a)cchasselt.be>
>To: <dan(a)decodesystems.com>
>Subject: Apple mouse
>Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 23:51:07 +0100
>
>Hi!
>
>I am a systems administrator at a cultural center in Belgium. We have 3
>light tables (12 years old) that are steered with a mouse but we only have
>one mouse left. It was very hard for me to find a mouse that worked,
>because it had to be a female DB9 Serial plug, with at least 7 cables
>soldered. Finally I came across the Apple M0100 (Made in the U.S.A. type
>590-0320). At your website I found some pictures of the same mouse. My
>question now is, do you know where I can find such a mouse, because if I
>don't find it, it could cost the centre a lot more money than just the
>price of one mouse.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Arthur Odekerken
I found several versions of DOS in my collectibles, incl.:
DOS V3.10 on 51/4 floppies with ref manual, user's guide, & applic setup guide
DOS V2.0 on 51/4 floppies with ref manual
DOS V3.2 users guide [may have the OS on floppies, but would need to
determine interest prior to searching]
Anyway, there was some traffic a few days ago from someone looking for an
early version of DOS on floppies, 51/4 I think
So, anyone out there interested?
Hi Folks,
Please forgive my ignorance in this respect, but are HP9000 series 300 and 700 workstations considered classic computers yet. The ones I'm thinking of were new around about 1992, and are pretty well complete - although the owner can't get them to boot now. You might have seen my list of stuff I posted here last week - same stuff.
I thought I'd better make a posting asking a bit more about their classic status now - since I didn't get a single expression of interest in the equipment.
Are they desirable at all - or just old boxes? The lack of interest might have been because I stated thet they were uk based, do any other Brits subscribe to this list?
So many questions, so little time....
Seriously, if anyone can spare a few minutes to steer me in the right direction on getting rid of these things I'd really appreciate it.
Many thanks
Adrian Manise
> > There actually may be more PDP-12s out there today than there are PDP-8s
> > or PDP-8/Is. Certainly more than the PDP-8/S or LINC-8 machines.
>
> If only I could find a LINC-8. :-/
Something I've been wondering about -- my prep school had what I very
strongly remember being labeled as a LINC-5, definitely DEC, a large
cabinet with formica counter under a blinkenlight front panel. And
a TTY or Flex-o-writer positioned next to or mounted on an "L" or
return extension of the counter. The powder blue/lime green color
scheme from the LINC-8 photos looks right, but it was definitely in
the neighborhood of ~5 feet tall rather than a standard 19" rack. It
was built out of what must have been Flip Chips, in a cage around to
the right of the unit as you faced the console.
Sadly they decommissioned it after my first year (1981/82), and I never
got a chance to learn anything about it - it was reserved for upper
classmen only. Also, the sole teacher who understood the beast (Mr.
Garrison, noted for his gruff nature and pipe smoking) was leaving or
retiring after that year.
Is my memory faulty and this had to be a LINC-8, or was there such a
thing as a LINC-5?
Thanks,
--Steve.
LINC Links:
The LINC: An Early "Personal Computer" [Quick history. --S.]
http://www.ddj.com/documents/s=1493/ddj0004hc/do200007hc001.htm
Laboratory Instrument Computer (LINC) "The Genesis of a Technological
Revolution" [Nice, narrative history of the original development. --S.]
http://www.nih.gov/od/museum/exhibits/linc/main.html
What different PDP-8 models were made?
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/dec-faq/pdp8/section-6.html
> One of my main beefs are the number of sellers in the US
> who restrict the volume of bids by refusing to ship to
> anywhere outside own their limited vision of the world.
> Either thru fear of unknown extra efforts, (which for the
> most part are minimal) or even ignoring the "will ship to"
> section.
My pet hate is people that charge 50% to 100% more postage to ship from the US to Australia than it actually costs. I have been gouged, *over*charged, an amount almost equal to the cost of the item before now. That is to say that on a US$25 item I might be charged US$35 postage, but it's only cost US$18 for them to post.
I've walked away from purchases where postage costs have been this disproportionally high.
Chris J.
Oh yeah,
there are other stories concerning left behind comps.
ironic though, i listen to a satellite hobbiest radio
network (www.w0kie.com) and thier playing the blues as
i am writing this.
while working security at a local plant, the managers
were so used to my scrounging that they usually told
me about new stuff in the scrap bin during my break.
so as usual, when hearing about "some computer stuff
in the bin" i go out to it expecting more plc stuff
(joy, more westinghouse pc-1100's to add to my
collection).
i look into the bin and find two boxes with non
standard port/ connectors on it marked "four phase
systems".
i was about to load them into my car - when i thought
why, i'll never find anything more for this comp
no docs or hd's,printer etc.
it turns out that i left 460/470 cpu's go for scrap!
next week - same story but these are still on the
loading dock - yep my jaw about hit the floor when i
found a rack with the hd,diablo disc
drive,comms,printer and terminals next to the rack and
a box of spare cards for both cpu's aggghhhhh!
i still have that half of the system.
but wait it get's better!! last week - i call the
local retired ibm c.e. and we start talking about old
comps when i bring up the rare four phase stuff.
yep he said it - "wow i just threw a complete system
470 away last year" - doh!!!!!!
of all the systems i have passed up - the iv-70 is the
one that haunts me the most - so close yet so far.
someday - i may find the cpu's, or part with the half
that i have (no, not scrap but trade or give away).
one note - i am glad that the VCF does have a complete
four phase system 470 perserved - that fact alone
help's me sleep at night when i remember my mistake of
leaving the cpu's in the scrapper.
Bill
Message: 5
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 13:44:33 -0500 (EST)
From: William Donzelli
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
cc: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: IBM system 3 Re: PDP-12 on eBay (IBM 650
on ebay)
Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
> I curse this day --> Back in college (many years
ago, about 1983, before I
> got into collecting), I went to the apartment of a
fellow compsci major to
> quell some beer. In the middle of his living room
was a complete IBM system
> 3, in perfectly mint condition. He told me I could
have it if I could get it
> out of there. Idiot me said "You gotta be kidding -
no thanks". *SIGH*
This seems to be a good test to see if you are an
official old-timer in
the computer collecting hobby - passing up a free
machine that today
people would kill for.
I have been there, many times (IBM, Amdahl, DG). How
about others?
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
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Hmm...
I'm ancient, not quite set in my ways, but close, and really want to get
hold of that book. The shot at getting one on e-bay was pretty close
(package, disk and all!), but the auction had already closed. Hmm. Do we
have acces, somewhere, to a 'grand library of esoteric tech-dom?' Might find
one there... -smiles-
Cheers!
Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, TX; USA
Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048
edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of Sellam
> Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 11:55 AM
> To: 'cctalk(a)classiccmp.org'
> Subject: RE: DOS 3.20
>
> On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Tillman, Edward wrote:
>
> > Any ideas where to find one now though?
>
> Try a local thrift store. If you don't find the manual you're looking
> for, you may just find a good book on MS-DOS that has similar information.
>
> Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
> Festival
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
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> http://www.vintage.org
>
> * Old computing resources for business and academia at
> www.VintageTech.com *
>
Guys,
After fighting (with no success) my 11/780 again today and wasting a
buttload of electricity doing it, it looks like I'm going to have to bite
the bullet and create a diagnostic application to help me figure what is
wrong with the beast.
I originally thought about writing a JAVA-based application that would
communicate with the console (card on the 750 and 11/03 on the 780) and by
using the minimal troubleshooting commands available, and at least isolate
what sections of the startup routines were failing or examine the memory
space to figure out what may or may not be responding or is out-of-whack.
I would appreciate it if anyone here had some documentation for the 780
outside of the following manuals:
Diagnostic System User's Guide
Hardware Users Guide
Remote Diagnostic Option Guide
... available for purchase - please let me know. These manuals I already
have, and if I can't get any clear documentation describing the routines
that the 11/03 is executing, then I'll have to manually (with the help of
this application) disassemble the code to determine what's not happy.
The built in console diagnostics of the 780 do not really give a clear
enough picture to find out exactly what has failed just by looking at the
program counter value when the 11/03 stops during the boot process (at
least with the troubleshooting docs I currently have).
I was hoping to create an application that would simulate the boot process,
but by examining/depositing register contents as the 11/03 would normally
execute them, and provide more detailed information.
Of course, this application, being serial based, could certainly extend
beyond the realms of the 11/780 and 11/750. You could conceivably deposit
boot programs into memory if your boot media fails, or even extend the
application to work with other computers/manufacturers as well.
Any suggestions or additional comments would be welcome. I would probably
make this application available under a GPL- style license, even though I
do not agree with Mr. Stallman's religious beliefs regarding commercial
application development...
(but that is a different story for another day)
- Matt
P.S. - Gunther - did you get your 780 running yet? Hopefully I can help you
out as well.
Matthew Sell
Programmer
On Time Support, Inc.
www.ontimesupport.com
(281) 296-6066
Join the Metrology Software discussion group METLIST!
http://www.ontimesupport.com/subscribe_t&c.html.
"One World, One Web, One Program" - Microsoft Promotional Ad
"Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" - Adolf Hitler
Many thanks for this tagline to a fellow RGVAC'er...
I buy and occasionally sell on EPay. Since I am out in
the boonies now, I no longer have the luxury of a great
curbside, dumpster, yardsale, or thrift-shop finds.
While despite this, I did retrieve 2 DEC Pros from the
town dump, and a complete Adam system, in the last 1
1/2 years here, and found a local salvager that gobbled
up the remains of a government department that was
closed down, there is very little available locally. It
becomes a challenge to acquire even parts for your
existing collection.
From my perspective EPay serves a valuable function,
and there are many of us far from urban centers. A recent
request for Vax parts from a person. unexpectantly, in
rural Alberta (Saskatchewan ?) drove that home to me,
and it is true whether you're one of our strange breed,
in India, Africa, or the Austalasia regions.
One of my main beefs are the number of sellers in the US
who restrict the volume of bids by refusing to ship to
anywhere outside own their limited vision of the world.
Either thru fear of unknown extra efforts, (which for the
most part are minimal) or even ignoring the "will ship to"
section. I routinely respond to something I'm interested
in with "will you not ship to Canada" and the answer is
almost invariably yes. They simply did the default form.
Most Canadians are aware of this frustrating US national
jingoism and rarely (never ?) do you find them posting
similiar restrictions on sales because they know it simply
involves filling out a small slip at the post office.
The problems with the commercial shippers like UPS is a
different number, and while it may work well in-country is
a disaster outside. Similarly where I live, we pick up at
the local post office so those who won't ship to a PO box
are city dwellers who don't realise the realities outside the
urban centers. Street addresses don't mean much here.
Lawrence
lgwalker@ mts.net
> > There actually may be more PDP-12s out there today than there are PDP-8s
> > or PDP-8/Is. Certainly more than the PDP-8/S or LINC-8 machines.
>
> If only I could find a LINC-8. :-/
Something I've been wondering about -- my prep school had what I very
strongly remember being labeled as a LINC-5, definitely DEC, a large
cabinet with formica counter under a blinkenlight front panel. And
a TTY or Flex-o-writer positioned next to or mounted on an "L" or
return extension of the counter. The powder blue/lime green color
scheme from the LINC-8 photos looks right, but it was definitely in
the neighborhood of ~5 feet tall rather than a standard 19" rack. It
was built out of what must have been Flip Chips, in a cage around to
the right of the unit as you faced the console.
Sadly they decommissioned it after my first year (1981/82), and I never
got a chance to learn anything about it - it was reserved for upper
classmen only. Also, the sole teacher who understood the beast (Mr.
Garrison, noted for his gruff nature and pipe smoking) was leaving or
retiring after that year.
Is my memory faulty and this had to be a LINC-8, or was there such a
thing as a LINC-5?
Thanks,
--Steve.
LINC Links:
The LINC: An Early "Personal Computer" [Quick history. --S.]
http://www.ddj.com/documents/s=1493/ddj0004hc/do200007hc001.htm
Laboratory Instrument Computer (LINC) "The Genesis of a Technological
Revolution" [Nice, narrative history of the original development. --S.]
http://www.nih.gov/od/museum/exhibits/linc/main.html
What different PDP-8 models were made?
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/dec-faq/pdp8/section-6.html
I rescued a VAXStation 4000/60 from Weirdstuff a few months ago and made a
few attempts at locating VMS for it. I've had no luck, and due to a new
project I've gotten myself into, I'd really like to find a home for this
critter.
It's got 24MB RAM and a hard disk of some size (I knew this earlier
today..). It's in nice physical condition save the flip down panel cover
which got broken off.
If anyone wants this, and is in the SF Bay area (the closer to Mountain View
the better) please send me an email and we'l arrange a pickup time/date.
This is free to a good home.
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Can anyone suggest where I might obtain an original or copy (they are less than 50 pages) of 2 IBM manuals:
GA27-3048 IBM 3670 Brokerage Communication System Concepts & Configurator
GA27-3049 IBM 3670 Brokerage Communication System Installation & Planning
Also, if anyone recollects working with such a system (Merrill Lynch in early 70's?) I would appreciate a description of how a broker or analyst could specify stocks in which he/she was interested along with some price limits or ranges and then receive a message alert on the terminal if limits were exceeded during real-time monitoring of trades in that security. In other words how were price alerts implemented.
Email me directly via jimkeo(a)multi-platforms.com with Subject "IBM 3670" if you can.
Thanks! - Jim
Jim Keohane, Multi-Platforms, Inc.
"It's not whether you win or lose. It's whether you win!"
I'm away from home but would appreciate hearing more about the
possibility of buying a 5100 or related computer. Could someone please
resend me the information?
Many thanks,
Nick
In a message dated 1/13/2003 12:55:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, cctalk-request(a)classiccmp.org writes:
> YA AOL luser. LART, anyone?
Hi Jeffrey, I just couldn't pass up responding to this from you. Prejudice is prejudice and it is wrong. You cannot stereotype any group of people, yeah, not even AOL users. You owe me and other decent AOL users on the list an apology. This is arrogance pure and simple Mr. high and mighty "subatomix" user. Best, David
Anybody know if Mentec (http://www.mentec-inc.com) has just
dropped their hobbyist licensing/cdrom plans?
Bill
--
bill bradford
mrbill(a)mrbill.net
austin, texas
I had a rather lousy turn of events last night and hosed my inbox.
I'm looking for the parties who negotiated a deal with myself for 1)
NeXT inkjet printer, and 2) The remainder of the NeXT and IBM items.
Thank You,
Jeff
>The AOL slamming that goes about on this list - indeed any of the
>AOL/Microsoft/Luser slamming - does not help our image either. Yes,
>folks, many people on the outside, including *many* respectable old
>computer collectors, do not have a very good opinion of this list...
>William Donzelli
>aw288(a)osfn.org
With the exception of the often excessive sarcasm of a certain member,
I, as a relative newcomer find this list to be both informative and quite
well run and the members to be quite generous with their knowledge both
on and off the list.
Rich Stephenson
Don't know if anyone would find anything useful here, but in a search
for datasheets, I found this link ...
Electronics Datasheets links ...
http://la.mine.nu/~emil/electron.html
On Jan 12, 18:38, Joe wrote:
> Well the Acorn is alive again. I finally got around to fixing the
> power supply. That also took care of the buzzing sound that was
> coming from the speaker. I'm also now getting a prompt. Before the
> PSU blew I was getting the ROM messages but no prompt. Now I'm
> getting "Acorn OS", "Acorn DFS", "BASIC" and ">" with a blinking
> underline prompt after that. However it's still not responding to
> the keyboard (except for the Control-Break).
Well, that's a fair amount of progress, even without the keyboard. Do you
still have the description I wrote about how it works?
> Just for the hell of it I tried powering it up with different
> ROMs removed. With the "US BASIC" ROM removed it asked "What Language?".
> Of course since the keyboard wasn't working I couldn't tell it anything.
You wouldn't have been able to anyway. Without a language ROM of some
sort, it won't listen to you. unless you have a Second Processor unit
installed, and it drops to the "*" prompt.
> With both the "US BASIC" and "DNFS" ROM removed it reported "View A2.1",
> "No Text", Editing No File", "Screen Mode 7", "Printer Default" and a
> "=>" prompt. Looks like I fell into some kind of monitor program.
> Still can't do anything due to faulty keyboard.
That's not a monitor prompt, it's the command mode of VIEW, which is a word
processor.
This is slightly odd. View is, in Acorn OS terms, a language, equivalent
to BASIC, COMAL, LOGO, FORTH, Wordwise, or any number of terminal emulator
ROMs. So removing BASIC but leaving View and the DNFS should have resulted
in your getting the View prompt, just as it did when you took out both
BASIC and DNFS.
> I cleaned up before Christmas and misplaced the bag with the screws
> for it, *&^(&%%!
That's all right. No proper BBC Micro has screws, except three M3 machine
screws to hold the PSU in place, and *possibly* some mushroom-head
self-tappers to hold the PCB steady. The keyboard screws should be
replaced with PCB clips for quick access, and the case screws should be
thrown away ;-)
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Dec 12, 19:43, Joe wrote:
> Nope, all the RAMS are soldered directly to the board and no solder
flux. I'm sure it was built with 32K and that appears to agree with the US
model number.
Yes, I'm sure it is, I was just pointing out that in the general case,
amount of memory is not a good way to tell. AFAIK, Acorn sold only Model
Bs in the States.
> It's not running at the moment but when it was it said soemthing
like:
>
> "Acron version 2.1
> DFS OS
> BASIC OS"
>
> There's also a EPROM that says "DFS OS" in it so I think it's supposed
to say that.
I've not seen a US model start up, but I expect Acorn removed the "BBC
Microcomputer" part for trademark reasons (in many countries outside the
UK, BBC is a trademark of Brown Boveri & Cie, and anyway it wouldn't mean
the same in the States). Presumably they changed the other strings too.
How many (EP)ROMs are in it? Do they have any numbers on them?
> OK thanks for the pointers. I searched the net but found so many
sites that I haven't had time to go throught them all.
If you're looking for repair information, the ones I listed are good places
to start. You might also consider joining the BBC mailing list. If you
want to, send a message with "subscribe bbc-micro" in the body, to
majordomo at cloud9.co.uk.
> Nope, that's not what I got. It didn't say anything about BBC or
Microcomputer or the amount of memory and it definitely said "OS" twice. I
did get the beep then the speaker had a slight buzzing in it. (Possible due
the the failing capacitor in the PSU). I was in the process of checking
the PSU outputs for noise when the cap blew. It was quite noticeable!
Maybe they changed the banners more than I thought.
> Actually I didn't get a cursor. I wasn't sure if it was supposed to
have one or not.
Yes, you should.
> Thanks for the description. That's about what I expected. Sounds like
I need to find a VIA. I need one for my spares anyway. There are two
mylar(?) ribbon cables that connect the keyboard to the main circuit board.
Is the wide one the column inputs and the narrow one the row outputs?
(Keeping my fingers crossed that it's that simple!)
I doubt if it's that simple. UK models don't use mylar ribbons, they use a
single 17-way notched IDT cable with a 0.1" pitch, and with a single-row
Molex IDT header at each end. If the cable is damaged you can use ordinary
34-way cable with 34-way 2-row IDC headers; just ignore the second row.
Download the service manual; it has the keyboard diagram, with pinouts.
Fix the PSU first, obviously. The Beeb is a bit choosy about power
regulation, and if the 5V and 0V connectors (of which there are three
pairs) don't all make good connections to the board, you can get strange
faults because the voltage may be too low at some points on the board. The
red and black wires are +5V and 0V respectively. There's a purple wire for
-5V, but this is only used for the serial port and audio amp. There's a
+12V output but only on the AMP connector at the front, as it's only needed
for peripherals.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
> I have a couple of Apple II+ computers circa 1979-1980 - were working
> when shut down many years ago. Is there a market for these? or should
> I put in trash?
A rule of thumb I now go by: If you paid more than $50 for it and it still works, don't throw it out. Sell it or keep it, but don't throw it out.
May still need some work, possibly referencing original price rather than the price you paid, but I'm liking it so far.
Chris J.
Hello:
I am new to this listing, so please bear with me.
I have a couple of Apple II+ computers circa 1979-1980 - were working when shut down many years ago. Is there a market for these? or should I put in trash?
Thanks.
Ken Bradley
Ken Bradley
Bradley & Associates
859.344.1965
859.344.1967 (Fax)
bradleyandassociates(a)choice.net
http://users.choice.net/~bradl/
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In a message dated 1/13/2003 3:20:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jrkeys(a)concentric.net writes:
<< > I am looking for a good, cheap PS/2 Model 25 (sx I think). It's the
> all-in-one model, with the screen built into the computer itself. It
should
> have at least one disk drive, hard drive and a keyboard and mouse would be
> nice.
> >>
they can be found, but are QUITE heavy!
You know you're (I'm) a geek when you're interested in buying CD's with high
rez pix of naked computers <grin>.
I too would love to have a copy of the CD - I wonder if he'd entertain the
possibility of selling *that* on it's own...
Dennis
Glen,
Attached is a ZIP file with two JPEG images that are scans of pages from the
Osborne 1 Technical Manual that relate to the PS and wiring. They might be
useful to you.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: acme(a)ao.net [mailto:acme@ao.net]
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 4:03 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Re: Osborne OCC1
From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
To: Glen Goodwin <acme(a)ao.net>
Subject: Re: Osborne OCC1
Date: 01/08/2003 7:55 AM
> I recently had an OCC-1 that blew something in the PSU. That odd thing
was
> at it kept working! I wasn't really intersted in it so I gave it to Glen
Good
> . I expect that he'll troubleshoot/repai
> r it soon.
Okay, Joe, I get the hint ;>) I'll take a look at it this weekend -- should
be
a quick and easy fix.
Later --
Glen
0/0
Oops! This was not meant to go to the list, but if the images are useful to
anyone else ...
-----Original Message-----
From: Feldman, Robert
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:51 AM
To: 'cctalk(a)classiccmp.org'
Subject: RE: Re: Osborne OCC1
<snip>
If you still have these, I would like to have them.
Please let me know.
> I found a stack (3) of 'Fortran Coding Form' pads with an IBM logo,
> GX28-7327-6 U/M 050, Printed in the USA. Legal size (8x17)Nice light
> green, one stack is pretty nice, the others show a little yellowing.
> Don't know what dates these were available for. The lab I found these at
> was created in 1973, so that's a good limit for the 'Wayback machine'.
>
> I assume these are what Fortran coders would arrange their code on before
> translating the code into the paperpunches.
>
> Header fields are Program, Programmer, Date, Punching Instructions
> (Graphic or Punch), Page Of, Card Electro Number.
>
> The main area is headed up with Comm (comment?), Statement Number, Cont
> (continue?), Fortran Statement, Identification Sequence, followed but
> miscellaneous squares numbered from 1 to 80.
>
> Asterisked comments at the bottom are "A standard card form, IBM 888157,
> is available for punching statements from this form" and "Number of forms
> per pad may vary slightly". [snicker- especially if you pulled a few
out!]
>
> Anyone want For Free? I imagine it'd be a cool prop material for your
> classic cmp. I'll stuff it in an envelope and send it out bookrate.
>
> L
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Hans B Pufal wrote:
>
> > Zane H. Healy wrote:
> > >>It looks like Al Kossow is the high bidder now, and he surpased the
> >
> > > This is one system I *REALLY* hope he gets! I want to see scan's of some
> > > of those manuals :^)
> >
> > Seems like Al has been outbid, is it time to set up a subscription to
> > support Al in snagging the machine? I'd be up to subscribing $50 toward
> > such a project.
>
> Is it only me, or does that listing look like hammered crap in
> Mozilla? I'm on my laptop, which runs at 1400x1050 only, so I have the
> fonts juked up to 14pt. The text runs right over the bidding frame and
> most of the pics.
> It's not the font size either - I turned my fonts down to 10 pt. and
> no joy.
>
> Doc
>
Me to! Had to resort to IE to be able to read the whole page.
-nick
Those binders usually had useful information in them. And at least there was
printed documentation, as opposed to today.
As to the software, I wold hardly call it "infantile." Limited, perhaps. But
remember what programs such as WordStar ran under (64KB RAM for CP/M and
program code). I had WordStar on one 90KB SSSD disk on my Osborne 1, and
could put 20 pages of text on another disk, and do real work. SuperCalc came
on another 90KB disk. Try to do that with MS bloatware.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Tillman [mailto:ETILLMAN@satx.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 12:13 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org; cctech(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: DOS 1.0
Hmm...
In the '80s, almost everything came in small, tabbed 3-ring binders, and
were all quite funny to read! :) Does anyone remember Peach Text, Peach
Calc, WordStar or any of the other infantile office software? They all had
'em...
Cheers...
Ed
<snip>
Any ideas where to find one now though?
Cheers!
Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, TX; USA
Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048
edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "Fred Cisin
> (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 12:02 AM
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: RE: DOS 3.20
>
> On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, John Willis wrote:
> > IBM PC-DOS or Micro$oft MS-DOS? I have the PC-DOS 3.20 manual.
>
> The only difference that I found between them (except for certain highly
> customized OEM MS-DOS versions) was DRIVPARM. It is present in both, but
> is not documented in PC-DOS. It is incompatible with the IBM BIOS.
>
> (DRIVPARM worked with both PC-DOS and MS-DOS with three different generic
> clones; DRIVPARM would not work with either MS-DOS nor PC-DOS on real IBM
> AT and PS/2 (model 50?))
>
>
> Some OEMs included the "technical reference manual" as appendix to their
> MS-DOS manual. IBM sold it as a separate book after 2.00.
>
I found an IBM M$-DOS 1.0 manual (no disks sadly)
It comes in a three ring binder, and is quite funny to read, esp the errata.
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I have been looking for a Calcomp incremental plotter and found one
in Bremerton, Washington but it is pickup only. Since I'm on the other
coast that isn't too practical. Is anybody nearby that might be interested
in picking it up and mailing it FedEx ground to me for some $?
Thanks,
David Gesswein
http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Run an old computer with blinkenlights.
Before the new year I had a lead on some parts and
said I would reveal what they were after I won or lost
the bid on them. Well I won.
What I got was a lot of EuroBeeb cards and parts.
For those that don't know the EuroBeeb was a BBC
Micro compatible computer but in a EuroCard (160mm
x 100mm) format. As well as the standard CPU, VDU
and I/O cards theer are a lot of digital I/O cards, analog
I/O cards and some specials such as EPROM programmers.
I also got the documentation for all the cards, the only
thing I'm short of is some of the system software.
For those who want to look there are some pictures at ..
http://members.lycos.co.uk/leeedavison/6502/eurobeeb/score/index.html
Cheers,
Lee.
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Foil, or any metallic reflector, can produce hot spots. A large piece of
white poster board works better.
A trick for photographing reflective surfaces is to use a black sheet _in
front of_ the subject, and shoot with the lens sticking through a hole in
the sheet. In this way, you don't get your own reflection in the picture.
Hair spray also works, but might be hard to clean off. Spray laundry starch
might also work, but I haven't tried it.
Watch for glare off chip surfaces, which can make part numbers unreadable.
The trick is to have the light coming in at an angle that does not reflect
into the lens. A common setup is two (or 4) lights, one on either side, at a
45 degree angle (with the camera perpendicular to the subject). In this way,
the fall-off from the light on one side is balanced by the opposite fall-off
of the light on the other side, so the illumination is even across the
subject.
For 3D objects, it is customary to have the (brightest) light coming from
the upper left, so the shadows are on the lower right.
Sean's last comment is a good one -- keep taking pictures until you get good
ones. The only added cost is in your time, but then why take the time to
produce a poor picture?
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean 'Captain Napalm' Conner [mailto:spc@conman.org]
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 10:03 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Old machine photos
> <snip> The goal is to light the computer well and
> eliminate glare - especially on screens.
A large piece of cardboard covered in aluminum foil makes a good
reflector, and to reduce glare on monitors you may want to try hairspray.
Professional photographers use it to reduce glare on glasses so it might be
worth trying on a monitor if you don't think it'll hurt it.
<snip>
If it's a digital camera, go wild with the pictures. Take lots of
pictures; more than you think you need. Then select the best from the lot.
Why not? It's not like you have to pay for developing the pictures.
-spc (Go for quantity, then select for quality ... )
Hello there, for those interested I've got a SEIKOSHA SP1000VC with the
C-64 cable. It has not operated in many years since I sold my c-64 a
very long time ago. But it worked flawlessly and hasn't been dropped or
abused since. For those interested I am asking for the first good offer
over $40us. E-mail me if your interested.
PETER K.
Look,
Just tell me how to remove my name. Please. I can never give any information
or help anyone. I am older and not interested. I have poor vision and to
delete so many emails is more than I can deal with. Someone help me get
unsubscribed...Please
YVONNE
Y
>Bill Bradford wrote:
>
>Anybody know if Mentec (http://www.mentec-inc.com) has just
>dropped their hobbyist licensing/cdrom plans?
The Mentec Hobbyist license is *broken*. Clause 1. says:
'EMULATOR shall mean software owned by Digital Equipment Corporation that
emulates the operation of a PDP-11 processor and allows PDP-11 programs and
operating systems to run on non-PDP-11 systems.'
It's crystal-clear; you can't run under the hobbyist license except on a
emulator which is *owned by Digital*.
There ARE no emulators 'owned by Digital' (or Compaq or HP for that matter).
So the Mentec license is no help to anyone who wants to run pdp-11 OSes on
emulation (SIMH, E11 etc), and stay 100% legal. It's no help at all as
regards running on acutal -11 hardware.
It's a very wierd term to have in a license... I guess this term is a
hangover from the days when Bob Supnik was still at DEC, and SIMH might have
become an official DEC project.
Mike
http://www.corestore.org
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> Then there were/are the Webbies...
>
> WebTV - Get youres' 2dAy!
Hey... I got great use from WebTV... I bought someone's used system for
$10 at a garage sale. Saved me $40 on the cost of the keyboard to work
with my Satellite Decoder... and I got a 1 gig IDE hard drive as a bonus.
:-)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>> Do you have any tips for scanning books? Such as resolution, color
>> settings, etc...
And to go one step further... recommendations for what hardware people
use for scanning? I am thinking about undertaking some manual archiving.
Mostly so I can get rid of manuals that I no longer need, but might want
to reference once again some day in the future.
I was thinking of using an old HP OfficeJet all in one
Fax/Scanner/Printer for the task. I figured that way I could drop a dozen
pages on it at a time. I don't have a sheet feeder for any of my flatbed
scanners.
Would something like this work for the task? Or am I better off locating
a cheap used sheet feeder for a flat bed scanner.
In the long run I figure I will save to PDF... but with how cheap CDs
are, I will most likely keep the interm scanned image as well, and just
make the PDF more for easy quick access to the pages.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
I have an original Compaq portable, that I had hoped to some day gut out and put in a "modern" motherboard etc, with an updated screen, but now it appears as if it may actually be of worth to someone as is. I even have the original receipt from Sears Business Center, where I bought it. Got an IBM proprinter also at the time, but that is now long gone.
Anyway, is there some way to find out what the value of my Compaq is?
Thanks to all who reply.
John Clarke
Philadelphia, PA
I got a mail from a person in Houston who has an 11/44 they needed to get
rid of... but their u-haul truck fell through, and they had to haul it
up here to Austin in batches, in their car.
Tonight I got the first part of the batch - which ended up being a pair of
RL02 drives, and a MINC-11!
pictures: http://www.pdp11.org/minc/
Anybody need the RL02s? Right now, I'm concentrating mostly on getting
all this documentation organized and scanned (finally!) and just messing
around with smaller systems. So, I dont have space for the RL02s, although
I'll be using that enclosure to rackmount some other equipment. Next week
(hopefully), he'll be bringing up the 11/44 if weather and time permits.
Therefore, two free RL02s. Must be picked up in Austin, Texas.
I *might* have a disk pack for one of them around somewhere as well;
need to dig.
Megan Gentry - please email me your postal address again; I have a huge
box of print sets and paper tapes to send your way.
Email me if interested..
Bill
--
bill bradford
mrbill(a)mrbill.net
austin, texas
I was digging in the basement, and found a few things I forgot I had. I think some on the list may be interested in copies of some of this stuff, if so, let me know off list.
A lot of Pick Assembler documentation from my days working on the Pick O/S: The original "rainbow" microdata reality assembler manual, the ultimate pick assembler manual, the general automation pick assembler manual, and the alpha microsystems pick "open architecture" assembler manual. Some of the stuff in this box was "confidential - internal only" and not for public release. I doubt they care these days.
Various info on the M4 Data autoloading 1/2 tape drive: The M4 Data 9900 series tape drive field service manual (very thick, includes schematics), the M4 Data Diagnostics manual for 8900, 9800, and 9903 streaming tape drives (this is really 5 pages of quick reference lists for the diagnostics on the drive). Then there is a 3 page chart showing the jumper settings for the optional SCSI interface card (this drive was most often pertec, not scsi). I seem to recall someone asking about this on the list a while back. I was sure I had accidentally pitched this info - so I was quite happy to find it, since I have a mint M4 in the basement :)
Jay West
It's probably obvious from the TK50 posting that I'm
cleaning out old storerooms.
I have a nearly-complete set of RSX-11M manuals in many feet
of orange binders.
If you need a particular manual, let me know and I'll see if
it's there. If you want the whole thing, be prepared to pay
for actual shipping costs -- it's a big documentation set.
contact runtime(a)wzrd.com
Don Mitchell
Yeah, yeah, replying to my own email, bad form, etc.
I'm an idiot. I just received a 3.5" floppy disk in a CatWeasel Mk3 package from the US and it was fine. Since *every* incoming package is scanned and 5.25" disks are on the whole *more* robust than 3.5" disks, then sending 5.25" disks out of the country should be safe.
Judging by the order of emails Ram will get XACT and Gene will get all the other originals I'm prepared to part with (if he's still interested without XACT).
I'll box them up and workout postage soon.
Just so I know, are there people here that have "standing orders" for any original software I can find? The total load of disks that were disposed of recently (not that much made it to a bin) included:
5.25" DSDD blanks
5.25" DSDD originals
5.25" DSHD originals
(I grabbed all of the above)
5.25" DSHD blanks
3.5" blanks and originals of both densities with possibly some Mac software as well as PC.
By "blanks" I mean non-originals, backups, data, copies, and actual blanks that have probably never been used (certainly never labelled).
What are people after?
> I wrote:
>
> Just scanning emails quickly, so I might have missed something,
> but...
>
> I'm up for it, but Australia *just* implmented a new international
> mail scanning
> technology (incoming *and* outgoing) and I want to find out if it
> nukes disks before
> I send too many.
>
> Will sort things out hopefully next week. Chris J.
>
> > At 08:34 AM 1/11/2003 +0800, I wrote:
> > >
> > >I recently salved a whole bunch of original (PC) 5.25" disks for
> > assorted
> > >business and education-oriented software.
> > >
> > >One product that featured highly and looks like the sort of thing
> > people
> > >might still be using is Xilinx's Xact. A huge number of disks --
> > looks
> > >like lots of incremental updates. Some are still sealed in
> > >plastic. Anyone want?
> > >
> > >Other titles of note include:
> > >
> > >cc:Mail
> > >Lotus 123
> > >Pro-Cite
> > >Ventura Publisher
> > >Project Scheduler 5
> > >Quattro
> > >Persona Logican
> > >Da Vinci eMail
> > >Sun PC-NFS
> > >Ansi-Console
> > >Softerm PC
> > >Compaq MS-DOS 3.31
> > >R&R Report Writer
> > >
> > >Given that I'm in Australia anyone who can convince me they're a
> > good home
> > >;) can have them for the cost of postage + a few percent to cope
> > with
> > >PayPal fees.
> > >
> > >KrisHaven {at} SpamCop {dOt} Net
> > >
> > >Chris J.
> >
>
Okay, what happened? The item still shows up in a search for
'(dec,digital,pdp)', but when the specific item is selected, it
shows up as invalid:
"The item you requested ( 2300403973 ) is invalid, still pending,
or no longer in our database. Please check the number and try again.
If this message persists, the item has either not started and is
not yet available for viewing, or has expired and is no longer
available."
The last price I saw on it was just over $2000...
Megan
Hello Greg,
I was looking for a DC003 Interrupt logic Chip and found your information on a website. What I need is to know where I can find these chips and who to call. Any information will be greatly appreciated. My information is below so if you can email me or call me, please let me know.
Thank you
Andrew Rodriguez
Classic Components
23605 Telo Ave
Torrance, CA 90505
310 539 5500 xt 317
310 539 4500 Fax
www.class-ic.com
What is it? Looks like a portable terminal of some kind. It is for
sale at what I think is a tourist price and the dealer won't even pull
it off the shelf till he sees money.
Do I want it? ;)
Doc
You wrote...
I have two Toshiba 3100/20 plasma display 286 systems.
Both working except
that one has a dead hard drive. Excellent condition.
Have the schematics
and service manual, user docs, software.
Anybody want them?
--cg
...Do you still have them? My friend has one of these
beasts, sadly without docs or software. It won't get
past some CMOS errors and the HDD fails. It doesn't
appear to boot from floppy either, at least it doesn't
make any noise! We decided to strip the drive out to
mount it from another computer and get the software my
friend needs from the drive. We carefully took it
apart only to find that the HDD has a 26-pin interface
that isn't compatible with IDE.
If you still have the manual, could you do me a favour
tell me if it is possible to boot this machine from
its FDD?
Where are you located? I am located in the UK.
TIA,
<jl/>
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I found a box of TK50 tapes I stored away a few years ago
and forgot about -- maybe a dozen of them.
Free to anybody who wants some or all of them.
Contact me at runtime(a)wzrd.com if you're interested.
Don Mitchell
Hi,
I have been looking for this. I'll take XACT if no one else claimed it, but
Eric is right, you do need a dongle to use it...
Thanks,
Ram
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The address used below from your web site wasn't valid.
----- Original Message -----
From: jljor
To: cctalk(a)type.domain.here
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 3:16 PM
Subject: Apple Mactinosh Computer
In June, 1984, as a member of the Research Board, a special group sponsored by MSV Consulting out of New York, I was asked by Steven Jobs to participate in Apple's Executive Advisory Program and evaluate the Mactinosh PC. At the time, I was Vice President of Computer Operations and Communication Systems for Union Pacific Railroad.
After completing my evaluation, the Macintosh that I had been evaluating was given to me in appreciation for my participation and contribution to the program. I have a letter dated July 1, 1985, from William V. Campbell, who was Executive Vice President of U.S. sales for Apple, at the time, which verifies that all of this actually transpired.
Obviously, I still have the Macintosh. I think It may be unique because of the manner in which I acquired it and the fact that it doesn't have a serial number on the back. Why, I don't know. I think the units may have been pulled off the assembly line in a hurry to make a "hands on" presentation to the members of the Research Board at a meeting in San Francisco.
Would you or would you know anyone who could give me an estimated value for this Macintosh? I have a full complement of hardware, including a printer and carrying cases. The equipment is in pristine condition, having been used only briefly over 18 years ago.
Any input you may be able to provide will be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
John L. Jorgensen
1800 North 52nd Street
Omaha, NE 68104
Hi,
I came across an email posted some time back about the Tek 4xx scopes
and Tek probes. It mentioned that the Tek P6106 is the "Real McCoy".
What is different between a P6106 and a P6105? I'm looking for the right
probes for a Tek 466.
Thanks!
Steve, N9OH
***I hope this isn't a duplicate message... wasn't originally aware there were two different lists***
Hello ~
I am new to this list and have found an item that I need some help with. Well.... I kind of am new.... I've been away from the list (and collecting classics) for several years (4?) doing other endeavors, but am ready to dust off the old classics and get back into the hobby. I basically specialize in the old 8-bits, game consoles, etc., and currently have about 300 different
machines.
Anyway, at a "flea market" I came across a yellowish-tan cased integrated keyboard/monitor unit, with the appearance of being late 70s vintage. The monitor was probably 7 inches wide, and the keyboard was pretty laid out pretty tightly. A compact unit overall. No disk drives, etc....
Upon further review, I found it is called a Scanset -- model HE 415-B -- and apparently was made by TEMAT.
I have been unable to find any additional information on this computer. Can any of you help?
Sincerely,
CORD G. COSLOR
Archive Software
www.ArchiveSoftware.net
(under development)
Sincerely,
CORD G. COSLOR
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Howdy, list mates. I'd like to acquire a MCM
Computers 700 / 702. This was a primitive laptop from
1977. Does anybody have one they'd consider parting
with? I'm located in Boston.
More information is here:
http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=1&c=346
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Hi, I have a bunch of DEC boards that need a good home.
I don't know the functionality of these DEC
boards. They appear to be in good shape. The description info is what I
got of the internet. Let me know if any of these are interesting and we
will go from there. I am mostly interested in trading for old
microprocessors for my collection.
Regards,
Norm
Here's my DEC board list.
MODULE OPTION BUS DESCRIPTION
M7095 KD11-Z U 11/44 control module
M7096 KD11-Z U 11/44 multifunction module
M7097 KK11-B U 11/44 4-Kword cache module
M7098 KD11-Z U 11/44 UNIBUS interface
M8192 KDJ11-AA Q LSI-11/73 CPU, 8-Kbyte cache, not FPJ11-AA (The
DEC cpu chip not supplied with this board).
M7900 RK611 U RK06/07 Unibus interface, hex
M7901 RK611 U RK06/07 register module, hex
M7902 RK611 U RK06/07 control module, hex
M7903 RK611 U RK06/07 data module, hex
M7904 RK611 U RK06/07 drive interface module, hex
M7651 DRV1W-S Q General-Purpose DMA Interface?
M7255 RK11-D U RK05 disk control module
M7256 RK11-D U RK05 registers module (data path)
M7257 RK11-D U RK05 bus control module
M8200-YA DMC11-R U 1-line sync DDCMP microprocessor with 1K
control/ ROM (point-to-point, used with M8201).
M8201 DMC11 U 1-line sync DDCMP DMA, EIA & V35 line board
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Does anyone know what model battery the GRiDCase 3 uses?
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Please remove me from your mailing lists. I am not interested in receiving
200 emails aday. I know nothing about old computers. I just bought one
because it was in good shape and I was interested in its value. I know now so
please remove Johnsoy(a)aol.com from this your club. PLEASE.
Thank you and good luck to all you collectors.
YVONNE
Y
I recently picked up a Cirris Signature 1000 cable tester and I'm looking for any adapter cards for it. (See <http://www.cirris.com/cable/tester/1000m.pdf> for pictures.) Does anyone have any that they're willing to sell or trade?
I have some adapter cards that fit the T&B CableScan model JB 100 and model 128 cable testers that I'll swap for ones for the Cirris tester. See <http://www.cablescan.com/products/m128.htm> for a picture of what these look like.
Joe
Just a quick HP-1000 memory question while we're all discussing it... I have
a single 12747H board in my 2113E.. is it correct to jumper it for 0-64K?
That would be my guess, as it is the only memory present.. I'm thinking the
fact that it was jumpered as 960K-1024K may have contributed to my machine's
failure to work, heh.
Will J
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I've finally purchased a digital camera!
Any recommendations on photographing machines?
resolution, size, positions - front, back, inside, screen shots?
I was thinking of starting with the machines I'm currently working on
(cromemco system 3, AS400 9404, and Commodore SP9000) and then move through
the collection as time and web space permit.
Ahhh....I have one of those c64's, original monitor, drive, tape, etc. I
also have the "Mach 5" fastloader cartridge..I often wondered if it was just
full of RAM? I did like the shortcuts that were built in which saves on
typing.
I wonder..does anyone out there have a copy of the game "Airborne Ranger"?
It was a superbly done game, and I remember how to play, but I have lost the
manual. One problem is that the copy protection feature built-in was that
you had to look up a medal ribbon that was located in the manual. Without
that, it wouldn't let you play!
Joel
-----Original Message-----
From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:33 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Phonemark "Quick Data Drive" - info?, also WTD Commodore
15xx drive, info.
>
> Hi all,
> A while ago I bought a rather unusual C64/VIC20 add-on - a "Quick Data
A lot of them turned up in the UK about 10 years ago -- the usual surplus
places (Grenweld, and whatever J Bull called themselves at the time) had
them. Nobody had the wafers (tapes) though...
> Drive", presumably made by a company called Phonemark. After thumbing
> through the manual I found a few photos of the cartridges. From what I can
> gather, it's an early "stringy floppy" device that uses a cartridge filled
I think it's much later than the Stringy Floppy.
IIRC, it connects between the cassette drive and the C64. I think QOS
was loaded at the same speed as a normal cassette load, and that QOS was
similar in concept to the cassette 'turbo loaders' that were popular
with the C64.
-tony
On Jan 12, 2:43, Adrian Vickers wrote:
> If you found the above boring, then please don't read it. Thankyou.
:-)
> And now, some questions:
>
> 1) Is it actually possible to copy files from one unit (i.e. diskdrive)
to
> another (i.e. Shark)? The COPY command can't (it even says so in the
> manual), and I guess it's understandable given that most people would
have
> had a dual drive unit, and maybe a tape deck, but little else with their
PETs.
I thought I'd done that, but possibly with some special program in the PET.
> 2) Does anyone know anything about the "Interpod" IEEE-->Serial thing? I
Dunno, sorry.
> 3) Does *anyone* make DIN plugs which don't melt if you bring a soldering
> iron within 5ft of them?
A useful trick is to use a potato. First, strip and tin the wires, and
trim to length (short). Stick the miniDIN in the potato, re-tin the pins
if it looks like solder might not stick to them instantly. Apply the
wires, one at a time, with just a touch of the soldering iron, using the
solder already on the pins and wires to make the joint. The potato makes a
good heatsink. If you don't have a potato, try a crisp apple, or a miniDIN
socket (which will at least prevent the pins becoming seriously
mis-aligned).
> 4) Where's my coffee?
In the cupboard above percolator, ready for the next time you visit, of
course.
> That's all folks! Now I've verified the Shark is in pretty sound
condition,
> I'll try taking some decent photos of it, inside & out.
Sounds like a bit of a marathon! Well done for persevering, though.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
I picked up a bunch of unknown paper tapes last week. I was sorting through them today and found several tapes that have "Digital Equipment Corporation Programmed Data Processor" printer along the length of them. The label on one of them also says "Memory CKR BRD (LOW)", "Memory CKR BRD (HIGH)", "Memory ADDR BRD (LOW)", "Memory ADDR BRD (HIGH)". That one also has "PDP-8" written on it in pencil. So I'm guessing that these are all for the PDP-8. The tapes are marked variously "DB3", "DB4 SIMAT #1 3 SW TEST", "PAL III", "Combined BB#51, INT #15, CORR #21 and Patches 1-11". Does anyone know what these titles mean?
All of the tapes are on blue plastic spools that are 4 inches in diameter and 1 1/4 inch thick. Each spool has a removable blue plastic cylinder (with one end closed) that slips over it. In the center of the spools are white plastic inserts with a hole and three radial drive slots. The covers are marked "Reel-Dex Part No. 30" and "Numeridex Incorporated Wheeling, Illinois 60090". It's pretty obvious that the spools are made to be used directly in a PT reader. But does anyone know what kind?
Joe
<< This is a re-sent message - slightly updated. The first two are
probably queued and should be deleted. I'm sorry in advance if I end up
with multiple posts >>
Hello,
I've just come into possession of an "Integrated Computer Systems
Standard Prototype Microcomputer." The system, as I received it,
consists of three parts: a power supply, a single board computer/trainer
similar to a Kim-1 and an "interfacing" board.
The "computer" part has an 8080a (AMD), 4 2708 EPROMS (one labeled MDS
DEMO) and a bit of RAM (2114s) as well as a hex keypad surrounded by
control keys (reset, step, run, etc.) There is an eight position LED
display above the keypad. Sections of the board are labeled with their
functions including clock, control logic, buffers and address decode as
well as keyboard and display and tape i/o. There are two 50 pin
connectors tagged as ITS and S-100 and two RCA plugs for, I assume,
audio data in and out. I guessed that the ITS connector should connect
to the "Interface System" mentioned above.
The "Interface System" has a bunch of different connectors around the
edges including ones labeled for Serial, TTY and RS232 interfacing.
There is also a "thermistor experimental board that includes a cooling
fan with opto-speed control and alarm circuitry" that will be coming
under separate cover.
For the price I paid I wasn't expecting this to work on arrival so I
wasn't surprised to find that it's flakey at best. When powered up the
LED display is random and pressing the reset button will usually clear
it, but not without random stuff popping up from time to time. No other
keypad keys seem to do anything.
I've put pictures up at http://www.vintage-computer.com/ics.htm (sorry
that they're a little bigger then usual)
Has anyone ever seen one of these before? Does anyone have any manuals
for it or any ideas what might be wrong with it from my brief
description?
Google turned up nothing. . .
Thanks!
Erik S. Klein
www.vintage-computer.com
FYI.
See below...
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Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 14:04:24 +0800
From: Tom Hunter <tom-hunter(a)bigpond.com>
To: vcf(a)vintage.org, archive(a)vintage.org
Cc: cgd(a)theworld.com
Subject: CDC Cyber mainframe emulation
Hi,
I have written a free emulator for a CDC Cyber mainframe and a set of typical
peripherals. The software is written in plain C and currently runs on Win98/NT
and various UNIX platforms. I have released both source and binary. If you
think this is of interest, please visit my web site where you can download a
ZIP archive of the sources, a Win32 binary and the Chippewa OS (handcoded in
octal by Seymour Cray).
My web site is:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/tom-hunter
If you have any CDC Cyber related software tapes, could you please send me a
list of what you have. Top on my wanted list would be SMM sources matching and
binaries. SMM is a system diagnostic which would help finding any remaining
problems in the emulation.
Best regards from Australia
Tom Hunter
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>All I have to say is WOW!
That was my reaction as well. If I weren't unemployed at this
time and if I had someplace to put it, I might try for it. I
think my partner would kill me, though...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
| Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: mbg at world.std.com |
| | |
| "this space | (s/ at /@/) |
| unavoidably left blank" | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
| | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA |
+--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+
I don't know where it is. Please ask the original sender.
Reply-to: <shawn.swango.hjd1(a)statefarm.com>
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 07:52:30 -0600
From: Shawn Swango <shawn.swango.hjd1(a)statefarm.com>
Subject: IBM
I have an old IBM 5170 Personal Computer AT with an IBM 5151 Personal
Computer Display. Worth anything?
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I'm looking for the MS-DOS version, (preferably with the disks intact, but
not essential...). It was paperback, nearly 2" thick, had a two-tone cover
(white over gray), and was somewhere over 300 pages in length. It had all
the instructions in the world for using a DOS system - from setting up the
autoexec/config, to working in the AT console (e.g.: modem command strings),
to all the various switches for all the internal and external DOS commands,
to programming in GWBasic. I really miss my book (I lost it in a house fire
a week before 9/11...)
That info is nearly murder to come by now days, and yet there are still
legacy systems out there in everyday business use. That's one of the
reasons I want the book. The other is that I want to setup a current day
system (AMD 1.6Ghz or higher) as a straight DOS machine for experimentation,
games and taking others back through history. DOS 6.22 would actually work,
but I really liked the older DOS better, and the "newer" versions' texts
weren't quite so insightful.
Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, TX; USA
Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048
edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "John
> Willis" <jwillis(a)arielusa.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:43 PM
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: RE: DOS 3.20
>
> IBM PC-DOS or Micro$oft MS-DOS? I have the PC-DOS 3.20 manual.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Tillman
> Sent: Sat 1/11/2003 8:36 PM
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Cc:
> Subject: DOS 3.20
>
> I believe DOS 3.20 is what I was looking for. It came as original
> software
> for a Packard Bell 386/12T (don't remember the specific model name), and
> I
> used the accompanying book to teach myself DOS programming -- back in
> 1991... The system had dual floppies (both sizes), a small hard drive,
> no
> sound except for the system speaker, and one of the first mass
> production
> .25 dpi monitors. I paid through the nose for the system at the time,
> but
> I'd likely give an arm and a leg for that old DOS manual...
>
> Cheers!
>
> Ed
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 08:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Old (5.25") PC software
>
>
> > On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Ed Tillman wrote:
> > > I dunno about these, but would anyone happen to have a copy of DOS
> 2.x
> or
> > > 3.x (2.3 and/or 3.2 maybe) on 3.5 disks, nd with the accompanying
> user
> text
> > > book? Some of the information in those old texts is still
> applicable,
> but
> > > can't be found anywhere...
> >
> > There ain't no sech thing as 2.3
> >
> > 2.xx was only available with 3.5" support in specially modified
> versions
> > for certain specific brands of machines (usually in version 2.11).
> Even
> > the disk format isn't standardized on those.
> >
> > 3.20 (internally it thinks that it is three point twenty, NOT two), is
> the
> > first version that includes 3.5" support (720K) without special
> machine
> > specific modifications.
> >
> > 2.11 and 3.31 are only available in versions that were intended for
> > specific machines. 'Course in most cases, the only thing that is
> > different is the code in MODE.COM, and sometimes FORMAT.
> >
> > If you have a machine with specific peculiarities, 3.31 is the hot
> setup.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> - C.DTF << File: C.DTF >>
IBM PC-DOS or Micro$oft MS-DOS? I have the PC-DOS 3.20 manual.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Tillman
Sent: Sat 1/11/2003 8:36 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Cc:
Subject: DOS 3.20
I believe DOS 3.20 is what I was looking for. It came as original
software
for a Packard Bell 386/12T (don't remember the specific model name), and
I
used the accompanying book to teach myself DOS programming -- back in
1991... The system had dual floppies (both sizes), a small hard drive,
no
sound except for the system speaker, and one of the first mass
production
.25 dpi monitors. I paid through the nose for the system at the time,
but
I'd likely give an arm and a leg for that old DOS manual...
Cheers!
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 08:55 PM
Subject: Re: Old (5.25") PC software
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Ed Tillman wrote:
> > I dunno about these, but would anyone happen to have a copy of DOS
2.x
or
> > 3.x (2.3 and/or 3.2 maybe) on 3.5 disks, nd with the accompanying
user
text
> > book? Some of the information in those old texts is still
applicable,
but
> > can't be found anywhere...
>
> There ain't no sech thing as 2.3
>
> 2.xx was only available with 3.5" support in specially modified
versions
> for certain specific brands of machines (usually in version 2.11).
Even
> the disk format isn't standardized on those.
>
> 3.20 (internally it thinks that it is three point twenty, NOT two), is
the
> first version that includes 3.5" support (720K) without special
machine
> specific modifications.
>
> 2.11 and 3.31 are only available in versions that were intended for
> specific machines. 'Course in most cases, the only thing that is
> different is the code in MODE.COM, and sometimes FORMAT.
>
> If you have a machine with specific peculiarities, 3.31 is the hot
setup.
>
>
>I think that is incredibly overly optimistic. The original Compaq
>portable was sold in such numbers that literally tens of thousands still
>exist in garages and closets all over the country (and perhaps the world).
>I run into one nearly everytime I go out looking for old computers. They
>are not only not rare, they are incredibly common.
I have at least one, I think two... I just used one as a door chock the
other day to prop open the fire door exiting from my telco closet to let
more light into the room (the light in there has been broken for ages and
the landlord refuses to fix it).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Just scanning emails quickly, so I might have missed something, but...
I'm up for it, but Australia *just* implmented a new international mail scanning
technology (incoming *and* outgoing) and I want to find out if it nukes disks before
I send too many.
Will sort things out hopefully next week. Chris J.
> Gene Ehrich gehrich-at-tampabay.rr.com |CC| <a3nfh8jacs0t(a)sneakemail.com>
wrote:
>
> I would just love to have all of these old disks and will happily pay
> the
> postage (cheapest way) and pay immediately with PayPal.
>
> Gene Ehrich
> P.O. Box 3365
> Spring Hill, Florida 34611-3365
> USA
>
> Please let me know
>
> At 08:34 AM 1/11/2003 +0800, you wrote:
> >Hi All,
> >
> >I recently salved a whole bunch of original (PC) 5.25" disks for
> assorted
> >business and education-oriented software.
> >
> >One product that featured highly and looks like the sort of thing
> people
> >might still be using is Xilinx's Xact. A huge number of disks --
> looks
> >like lots of incremental updates. Some are still sealed in
> >plastic. Anyone want?
> >
> >Other titles of note include:
> >
> >cc:Mail
> >Lotus 123
> >Pro-Cite
> >Ventura Publisher
> >Project Scheduler 5
> >Quattro
> >Persona Logican
> >Da Vinci eMail
> >Sun PC-NFS
> >Ansi-Console
> >Softerm PC
> >Compaq MS-DOS 3.31
> >R&R Report Writer
> >
> >Heaps of Microsoft stuff too. And some Nortons stuff I'm keeping.
> >
> >Some disks have useful things such as serial numbers on them.
> >
> >Given that I'm in Australia anyone who can convince me they're a
> good home
> >;) can have them for the cost of postage + a few percent to cope
> with
> >PayPal fees.
> >
> >KrisHaven {at} SpamCop {dOt} Net
> >
> >Chris J.
>
>I didn't know
>about the "WB" setting (forgot what it stands for)
White Balance
>it sets the camera for
>different lighting temperatures (indoor, bright sunlight, indirect sunlight,
>flast) and that does make a difference (the color in the images above is a
>bit off since I didn't know about them with I took the pictures)
One thing you can try if you find you change to the correct preset and
the color is still off... hold a stark white board or peice of paper in
front of the camera (filling the entire image area, but back far enough
to allow lighting), then switch to the setting you want to use.
In the past (and on higher quality cameras), that is the correct way to
set a white balance. However on most of today's consumer grade cameras,
they have moved to either an entirely automatic white balance, or one
like you seem to have with a few preset options. On some of the preset
versions, it does a quick sample when moved to the setting, and adjusts
>from there. So holding a white image in front of it will help it adjust
to a true white (and then, some don't do any sampling or adjusting, and
doing this will do nothing at all).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
I don't know what Rajat wants exactly but this is cool. VCF India?
:)
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Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 22:58:24 +0530
From: rajatkakkar <rajatkakkar(a)rediffmail.com>
To: donate(a)vintage.org
Subject: HP 7970 E spool disk drive
Respected Sir / Madam,
I am having HP 7970 E spool disk drive at my home in India, I had got it through an auction and
would like it to be put to some use.
I look forward to you for this matter.
Awaiting reply.
Regards
Rajat Kakkar
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We recently purchased an original Apple portable, model #M5120, at a garage
sale. It came in the original black carrying case with the Apple logo. We're
searching for any information about it, with the goal of selling it
eventually. Any suggestions anyone can offer will be greatly appreciated.
Lynn and Blake
If you want something you never had, then you need to do something you've
never done.
Oprah Winfrey
Doing a little cleaning up. Everything is available for free if you
come and pick it up (downtown Miami, FL).
If there's something here you'd really like to have shipped, e-mail me
and we can work out some type of trade.
As always, please respond off-list.
NeXT N4000 MegaPixel display. Looks brand new.
NeXT non-ADB keyboard, mouse, and soundbox set. Somewhat ragged.
NeXT non-ADB mouse. This one looks very nice.
NeXT Color inkjet printer. Works, but needs new plunger for magenta
pump. Includes manual.
IBM 5150 monochrome monitor. Good condition.
IBM PC/XT keyboard. Missing two keys. Maybe useful for springs or
keycaps.
IBM PCjr manual set. Guide to ops, BASIC manual, and sampler disk. All
new, sealed.
Motorola MicroTac "flip phone" cell phone with complete car kit (Mic,
base, speaker, antenna, etc.). Circa '95
Dunlop golf clubs in bag (complete set). There are several clubs. I
don't play golf, so you'll have to ask questions if you'd like more
details.
New in box golf-club carrier on wheels, presumably for those Dunlop
clubs.
Jeff
I have a Mac Portable M5120. It boots (when the hard drive is given enough
time) and comes with the original carrying case.
Does anyone have any idea how much this is worth? How should I sell it?
Thanks.
I have the original silver logo Compaq portable. I am willimg to sale if the
price is right. I have all the manuals, discs, and all original Compaq
version books. Mint condition.
Great bargain. Will sale for $300.00. That sounds high but this is one of the
first and it is like new. It is beautiful and works. Manufactured in 1982,
shipped in 1983.
Thanks for your interest,
YVONNE
Y
I've finally got around to testing my DEC GiGi, and it appears to work!
Now, it seems to start up in 'terminal' mode - does anyone know how to
make it start up in 'basic' mode? I'm guessing it might have something to
do with the dip switches on the back of it. Does anyone have a listing of
the meaning for the switch settings? I've searched google, and haven't
found anything that looks useful.
Thanks for any help.
Pat
--
Purdue Universtiy ITAP/RCS
Information Technology at Purdue
Research Computing and Storage
http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu
Found this on e-bay. It's a HP 9000 236 (aka 9836) with the COLOR monitor. These are nice systems and make great HP-IB controllers. This one looks complete, it includes two Meg of memory and a full set of cards. It also includes a hP-IB hard drive (hopefully with the OS). <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=179&item=2086468423>.
Auction ends in 20 hours so don't delay if you're interested.
Joe
Hi folks:
I recently obtained a TI Silent 700 terminal, model 743 EIA.
Does anyone have the pinout of the DB-15M connector, or any other useful
info on this model? Is a manual online somewhere? It seems bigger than
some of the other Silent 700 models -- does this make it earlier?
thanks,
gil
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http://www-s.ti.com/sc/ds/til311.pdfhttp://www-s.ti.com/sc/ds/til306.pdf
>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
>Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>Subject: Re: substitute for TI TIL306/307 Display?
>Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 17:00:23
>
> The 306/307s also have built in BCD decoders. I've been trying to find
>a data sheet on the 311 so that I can see what the difference is between it
>and the 306/307.
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Hi,
I found the perfect serial keyboard for my project. The iBiz KeySync and
there are drivers for Linux! It lists for $70, but I got mine on ebay for
$18 shipped. Here is the same seller selling some more (she raised the
price though, but still within $20):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15004&item=1950967416
Cheers,
Ram
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I'm having some difficulties initializing an RL02 disk under RSTS/E
9.2. When I issue the command INITIALIZE _DL1: MYPACK/CLUSTER_SIZE=1 it
says that it is an illegal cluster size. This is the cluster size
mentioned in the table given by HELP ADVANCED DISKS. It also returns
the same error when I don't use the /CLUSTER_SIZE option. What am I
doing wrong?
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