- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Personally, I'm likely to be far too lazy to post if it goes "blog".. WTF is Kuro5hin? Slashdot is that linux thingy right? Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Maxtor drive goes under

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

After the experiences my company has using Dell desktops with Maxtor drives, as well as some personal experiences (below) I wouldn't have either a Dell computer *or* a Maxtor drive anywhere near my personal system. Dells today are the "Acer's" and "Packard Bells" of the current day - cheap, not easily expandable, and quick to wear out. And here, we're replacing Maxtor drives daily. OTOH, the oldest drive in my home network, now revered and used as a zip file storage drive, is a WD 720 "Caviar." That 720MB drive, small by current day standards, survived a house fire last year that melted the case it lived in. The frame, all the drives (3), and even my "ancient" AMD 450Mhz CPU chip survived. The box, however, is slag. I think I'll stay with WD. My current home *custom built) system boasts an AMD 1.1Ghz chip, 1 WD 8Gb system drive, 2 WD 80GB personal account (6 family members) and application drives, and the 1 old WD as a storage drive (aren't Promise cards wonderful?!). Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "J.C.Wren" > <jcwren(a)jcwren.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:51 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: Maxtor drive goes under > > All drive manufacturers have particular models that have had > problems. For > instance, you'd have to pay me a damn lot of money to stick anything that > says "Western Digital" in my systems. I've been running Maxtors for > years, > and I recently had a 60GB D740X toast itself. First time ever. OTOH, > I've > had WDs belly-up left and right. I used to be a big fan of IBM drives, > until the DeathStar 60GXP and 75GXP debacle. > > www.storagereview.com is a good place to get comparisons of HDs. > And you > can contribute your experiences to the database. The database covers a > lot > of drives, but was initially started because of the 60GXP and 75GXPs. IBM > was claiming there was no problem, the rest of the world proved them > horribly wrong. > > Personally, I'll stick with Maxtors. I've got 10 Maxtors HDs > currently > spinning here (ranging from 27GB 5400 RPM to 80GB 7200 RPM drives), and > this > D740X is the first bad one. And Maxtor has (or had) a damn good warranty. > There's been some talk about Maxtor and WD going from 3 year warranties to > 1 > year. Something about getting too expensive, since HDs rarely stay in > service 3 years (in the real world. Don't start talking here about how > we're all still running drives from the '70's yada yada yada. We're not a > real cross section of the market). > > --John > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org > > [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]On > > Behalf Of Cameron Kaiser > > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 00:34 > > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > Subject: OT: Maxtor drive goes under > > > > > > I believe Sellam was cursing at a Maxtor drive a couple > > months back, and > > now I know why. > > > > The 60GB ATA/133 DiamondStar in my Power Mac 7300 (connected > > through a Sonnet > > Tempo Trio) this evening made several hiccup-like noises and > > the computer > > froze up. On the next power cycle, it didn't spin up and just > > sat there and > > clicked. I suspected stiction (well, I prayed it was > > stiction) and tried > > reorienting it and a few gentle taps. On the next power > > cycle, it didn't even > > click anymore and made occasional soft grinding noises, and > > now it doesn't > > even do that. > > > > So, I'm typing this on my Power Book 1400, which I guess will > > be my desktop > > system for the time being. > > > > Any suggestions for ways to get it to spin up, one last time? > > Anyone know > > what happened? I thought it had been a power problem because > > it made some > > sounds like this a few weeks ago and replacing the power > > cable did seem to > > cure it, but I'm mystified as to why it would die so fast. > > The drive was not > > especially hot and it has plenty of ventilation. > > > > I guarantee you my next drive will not be a Maxtor. > > > > Sorry for the OT -- just looking for any desperation > > suggestions before I > > make a new hard drive platter wall clock. > > > > -- > > ----------------------------- personal page: > > http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- > > Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * > > ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu > > -- Son, God's going to use you. Until He does, take this > > pill. -- Mark Lowry -- > >

23 years, 3 months

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Selling an old IBM AS400/9404

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

For what its worth, I know how to hack the QSEFCOR password... And I have 3 different MULIC tapes, too.. I'm working on getting more, to provide an archive for other 400-heads like myself.. I own like 7 of the things if you count the couple machines that exist in board state only.. Indeed, on the RISC machines the license is implicitly transferred with the machine, I believe it even says you MUST transfer the license and s/w with the machine... Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 3 months

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About Electronics Questions

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> With Tony et al as my inspiration, I have recently started to learn > electronics. I've been at it a couple of days, and tonight I just had the > "aha!" for how high-pass and low-pass filters work. I haven't come across > anything yet that has me completely stumped, but if I do, is it appropriate > to ask newbie questions about electronics here? > > I'm supposed to *answer* questions like that, but I just don't know. > Typically, I call electronics conversations as on-topic because they are > directly relevant to operating classic computers. Newbie questions, however, > are more indirect. For another example, we'll help someone with a Windows > program that somehow makes his/her classiccmp go, but I doubt we'll bother > to teach a person in-list how to double-click. Is electronics any different? I'm inclined to say begining electronics questions would be ontopic. Sure it's a bit of a stretch, but I sure wouldn't complain. Unfortunatly I'm starting to doubt I'll ever find time to ask them myself :^( Zane

23 years, 3 months

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ADMIN: What if ClassicCmp were a blog?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, Sellam Ismail wrote: > > I really don't like /.'s format. It's too difficult to read through all > > the various messages. > > Yahoo groups or Google groups is probably a better example. I *only* access Yahoo groups through email. I can find time to deal with email, it is non-intrusive. If CLASSICCMP were to move to a web-board, I would leave. I have a hard enough time finding time to keep up with CLASSICCMP, if it were to move to a web-board, I simply wouldn't have time to mess with it. Zane

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ADMIN: What if ClassicCmp were a blog?

by 3sdiarftt02＠sneakemail.com

> Yahoo groups or Google groups is probably a better example. I hope they're just an example because if you actually move to Yahoo groups then I won't come with. Same is true for www.ezboard.com. Chris J.

23 years, 3 months

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OT: paging MAC expert(s) --- What's a Performa

by bluepearl8＠mac.com

Hi, I have an old macintosh portable I bought in 1995. I have no idea what it is worth but I love it. I am also not very computer literate. I also own a macintosh preforma 6360. I now own an imac. Maryann DeMatthews

23 years, 3 months

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ADMIN: What if ClassicCmp were a blog?

by 3sdiarftt02＠sneakemail.com

I like the way that the AtariAge forums work. (http://www.atariage.com) I think that's UBB. I wouldn't have any problem if CC ran like AA. However, if you did a Slashcode-based system I'd probably leave after a while. Chris J.

23 years, 3 months

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Utter eBay Madness (was help w/pricing)

by loedman1＠juno.com

Would that be traction or stationary ? Rich Stephenson >Nop, that was just a sidebranch of a quite great >invention which gave us wall size printouts of >Steam Engines! >Gruss >H.

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ADMIN: What if ClassicCmp were a blog?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> What is your opinion? Let's answer this one in-list, please. H*** NO!!!! Simple filtering of email messages takes care of 'inbox clutter', etc. Email is a fast, sleek and lowbandwidth medium. Web-boards, on the otherhand are cumbersome and time consuming. With email I can read CLASSICCMP on anything, with a Web-board, I'd be limited to a modern computer. If this were to happen, I can guarentee a lot of people would leave. Zane

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Victor 9000 display and Commodore stuff

by vcf＠siconic.com

This guy has stuff. Contact him if interested. Reply-to: <tingle(a)nb.net> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:45:47 -0500 From: Bill Tingle <tingle(a)nb.net> To: vcf(a)vintage.org Subject: victor 9000 I have acquired a monitor labeled "Victor 9000". It is model 601, Serial C0061752. I found no reference to it on the Vintage Fextival website. Thus, I speculate that it may be rather rare. It looks to be unused so I assume it works. Can you tell me what interest the Festival (or others) might have in it. I live in Pennsylvania. I thank you in advance for your efforts in this matter and will appreciate either a reply or a forwarding of my letter to someone who might have an interest in the item. I also have some Commodore 64's and 128"s with modems, drives, and other accessories. I assume there is no interest in them. Please reply to tingle(a)nb.net . -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 3 months

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Re:A Few New Finds Today

by joe_web＠worldonline.fr

I'm interes at the video cards, are they too for 1$? bye ---------- Initial Header -----------

23 years, 3 months

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Too many EPROMs

by aw288＠osfn.org

Well, I have too many of the things, pulled off boards for years and years. 2716s thru 27512s, regular and CMOS. Does anybody need any of these CHEAP? I must have several hundred untested pulls. Let me know what you are looking for. What's a good price? How about .25 a pop, or six for a buck, plus shipping. Any interest? I do have some oddballs and older types (1702s, 2708s) too - please ask. William Donzelli aw288(a)osfn.org

23 years, 3 months

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Prelinger & Computer Chronicles Archives

by cb＠mythtech.net

>"He developed the first operating system (CP/M)." > >I sincerely hope that the web page author meant this sentence to be taken >completely in the context of the previous one. :( Maybe the web designer knows the same guy I do... who just the other day described the RAM chips in a 486 he wanted me to look at as "antique memory". When I looked inside the computer, he was refering to 72 pin SIMMs!!!! -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Update: BBC Acorn

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> You lucky devil - I've been looking for a BBC Micro ARM Evaluation Kit for > years! I saw one at a show ("Last ARM Evaluation Kit In Existence") - that > just made me want one even more :-) :-) Any idea how many were released into the wild? I certainly had no luck tracking down any info for mine when I last tried (which was about 8 years ago now, admittedly) They don't seem to have been that common at all... cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

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Octane comes from October (WasRichard Crandall just cancelled a payment to you)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Damn, You can't hardly find higher than 93.5 or so here in Colorado... < jealous of those who can get 100 octane at the pump. Sure, my car needs only 87, but if I could get higher octane gas I could drive a car with higher compression ;p Will J _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

23 years, 3 months

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IBM system 3 Re: PDP-12 on eBay (IBM 650 on ebay)

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

This thread is a good indication of why we need some sort of register of machines, by serial number, including "mutt" machines made from bits of others. Most classic cars have registrys devoted to them, so why not classic computers? A PDP-8/I one would be interesting, for example. Plus, if the members were willing to provide their e-mail addresses, it would centralize the knowledge of who has, say, extra boards or manuals... Just a thought... Will J _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup

23 years, 3 months

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Technique for scanning in documentation

by alanp＠snowmoose.com

I have a bunch of documentation for my VAX 11/750 and peripherals that I would like to scan in and make available. What technique should I use? I can scan individual pages, but how do I stitch them together to make one big PDF file? alan

23 years, 3 months

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A couple of Good Finds Today

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

At Goodwill I got a book titled BIT BY BIT An Illustrated History of Computers by Stan Augarten for 25 cents and it has lots of great pictures and stories in it. At another thrift I got a TI-99/4 with power supply and nothing else ( It's the 99/4 not the later 99/4A). It's in pretty good shape with a few dents. Looked for the Doc's for it but only found TI-99/4A books.

23 years, 3 months

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M100 Keys Sought

by 3sdiarftt02＠sneakemail.com

> Should I bet on the galaxy? No keys. > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Ed Chiodo wrote: > > > I have a mint condition M100 that I would like to sell. > > > One problem: the original keys were replaced with custom screened > > > keys for an OEM application. Does anyone know of a source for > > > replacement keys?

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Progress (PDP-8/L repair)

by charlesmorris＠direcway.com

I'm still looking for an M220 board since one of the six won't carry from its LSB to MSB. Probably just needs a 7482 adder; I have one on order. In the meantime I've been looking at the core memory and MB registers which appeared to be totally dead (no bits ever changed on the front panel). (M+) - (M-) = 22.3 volts. This weekend, after quite a bit of signal chasing, I found that I had put the variable delay line in the wrong slot some time ago while cleaning connectors/mice nests! When I replaced it in the correct slot there was still no STROBE output. I then found that the 7400 output buffer was internally shorted to Vcc (probably >from the mis-slotting). Replaced the 7400. Now it cycles. The MB now lights up with the contents of the SR on a DEP, but I can't tell if anything is getting stored, or whether it isn't getting read, since EXAM always shows all-0's to the MB. I can't run any diagnostics yet since I can't store any instructions! Any help/hints greatly appreciated. -Charles

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Mac TV

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Is this something worth buying? If you are a Mac collector, sure, since its a cool little peice of Apple history... if you want it as an investment, not unless you get it nearly free. The prices for them have been steadily falling on eBay, so it is unlikely that you will be able to purchase one and be able to resell it at a high enough price to make it worth your time and effort. But, if you happen to come across them in an auction or scrap yard or otherwise, and can snag one for $10 like John did... then grab it. I think there are a few people on this list alone that might be willing to give you $25 to $50 for one, and you can probably get closer to $100 on eBay still. If it is totally complete, manuals, software, remote, everything, and is in good cosmetic condition, and everything works properly, then you might just might be able to snag upwards of $250 on eBay. Just remember, this is eBay... that means one will sell today for $250 and tomorrow for $35. Outside of eBay, I have not noticed Mac collectors willing to pay more than $100 for a complete, working system. The MacTV is not a terribly rare item (I think Apple sold something in the range of 10,000 units... and there is usually at least one on eBay in a given month) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

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Fw: NeXT archives/museum?

by alanp＠snowmoose.com

I actually got a bunch of offers to take the documents (uh, now I have to remember which box they are in :-( Thanks a bunch. Oh, and I guess I need to figure out which offer that I am actually going to take ... alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Perry" <alanp(a)snowmoose.com> To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:53 PM Subject: NeXT archives/museum? > > Is there a NeXT archive or museum anywhere? I have a few documents that > are historically interesting (one is a receipt for the very last > magneto-optical cartridges that Canon had in stock) and would like them > to go to a suitable home, if there is such a place. > > alan > > >

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Semi OT: Apple CD-ROM Driver 5.3.1

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Anyone out there have the Apple CD-ROM Driver 5.3.1 that they might >be willing to email my way? I just recently picked up a Toshiba XM- >520 SCSI CD-ROM drive in hopes of being able to use it with both my >Apple IIGS and my Performa 405. I've been told that the GS (equipped >as it is with a RAMFast SCSI Card) should handle it fine; but since >the Performa is running System 7.5, I need the Apple CD-ROM Driver >5.3.1 from System 7.6 to be able to use non-Apple CD-ROM drives. http://www.macdrivermuseum.com/disk/Apple_CD-ROM_D-5.3.1.sit.hqx and http://www.macdrivermuseum.com/disk/Mac_CD-ROM_Setup_5.3.2.sit for the ISO 9660, audio and High Sierra additions -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Update: BBC Acorn

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 15, 10:53, Jules Richardson wrote: > > ARM Evaluation Kit - yep - that's the one. I do have various discs and > > manuals for it, too. I used to love the "twin" editor - several open files > > at one, and could cut and paste between them. Ahead of it's time... > > yeah, that's it. Without any discs or being able to find anyone who knew > anything about it I'm afraid mine got put in storage. I believe I've got the > original polystyrene packaging for it, but no discs or outer box or anything > (go figure) I can copy the six disks for you, but as I mentioned in previous post, my Disc 1 has a corrupt track. > I've got some other BBC add-on in the same style housing as the ARM unit, but > can't remember what it is now. It wasn't the teletext unit unfortunately, as > that could have been interesting to play about with. Most of the Acorn add-ons came in the same housing. All the Second Processors (6502, Z80, 32016) and the Universal Second Processor box (so you could use Master Series upgrades like a Turbo, Master 512 80186 CoPro, or the Scientific), Teletext Adaptor, Prestel Adaptor, IEEE Interface, and probably others. > > They were expensive, but much more expandable than the spectrum. At one > > point I had about six of them in my bedroom on an econet network, had > > several on modems running a multi-user BBS. > > excellent :-) > I never got into the networking side of things with them (I've got all the > fileserver/network for the RM Link machines which I believe were the schools > alternative to having BBCs in the UK) I had a three-station Econet in the house in 1984 or 1985, and it eventually grew to include a Master 128, a Compact, and a Filestore. > I seem to remember this machine is way more complex than the innards of an XT > though, with about 1.5x the board space and a lot of ULA chips on board. > > I'm sure Ferranti produced much better machines than glorified IBM clones > though, if that's what this is :-) :-) In my earlier reply, I was thinking of rather older Ferranti computers. At least a decade older, maybe two... -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Update: BBC Acorn

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 15, 10:55, Jules Richardson wrote: > > > You lucky devil - I've been looking for a BBC Micro ARM Evaluation Kit for > > years! I saw one at a show ("Last ARM Evaluation Kit In Existence") - that > > just made me want one even more :-) > > :-) > Any idea how many were released into the wild? I certainly had no luck tracking > down any info for mine when I last tried (which was about 8 years ago now, > admittedly) > > They don't seem to have been that common at all... No, they weren't. I worked for Acorn at the time, and even then I only saw one or two. I saw more of the ARM PC cards. But now I know maybe half-a-dozen people who own one. There was one on EBay a while ago. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 3 months

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Mac TV

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Is this something worth buying? Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

23 years, 3 months

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Update: BBC Acorn

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> Hmm. I've not got the box any more, mores the pity. sure. I can understand my not getting the box but I'm surprised someone lost the discs / manuals in my case... guess they got left on a shelf somewhere and then dumped. > There were no end of accessories that all used the same box. Various > add-on processors, modem (prestel adapter) etc. hmm. I really must look at what I have again!! >>I'm sure Ferranti produced much better machines than glorified IBM clones >>though, if that's what this is :-) > >They did do an IBM XT clone - we had to use some of them. Big black ugly >box. Cassette based, with an upgrade available to floppy disc. W.H.Smiths >used to sell them to the public..! They were not a success. hmm, this one had a cream-coloured case. The chassis was built to accomodate a couple of single-height floppy drives, side-by side; I believe it had a floppy controller built into one of the main boards. I think it had a couple of seperate PSUs in it too, one providing +5V and the other doing everything else. All this from memory of course - it's buried behind several layers of other junk at the moment :-) cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

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A Few New Finds Today

by jthecman＠netscape.net

I will gladly keep my eyes open for a set for you. At auction this only cost me $10 because no one there wanted Mac stuff. As to were I get this stuff it's mostly at thrift's and auctions (the best are schools and tech businesses). I have cut back on the thrifts because of cashflow (no job yet) but I used to go by them everyday. Goodwill, Value Village, and Savers are the best for me. The Salvation Army is too high in the stores and at their daily auctions. Up North (MN) the U of M was a good place to get older items and because there was an article written about me in the paper up there I got lots of calls from people wanting to give me items. chris <cb(a)mythtech.net> wrote: >>1. Black Macintosh TV no mouse, KB, or remote with it. Will test it on >>Wednesday. > >If you happen to ever come across any of the mouse, kb, remotes... I >could use a set. I have a Mac TV (finally... thanks John!!!), but it >lacks its extras as well (and currently is supposed to be DOA, but I hope >to finally have a look at it this weekend). > >I only run this by you because you seem to have the magical ability to >find the most awesome stuff at little to no cost... where DO you do you >hunting?!? > >Oh, and FYI: the MacTV will work with a universal remote. Sony TV code. >At least that is true with my PowerMac, which came with a remote that is >also compatible with the MacTV, so I draw the conclusion that the MacTV >should also be compatible with a universal remote, sony code set. > >-chris ><http://www.mythtech.net> > > __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

23 years, 3 months

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Subject: How many PDP-12's are there now?

by ken＠seefried.com

From: "Robert Krten" <root(a)parse.com> > Roswell/GA/USA Whoa! Where is there a PDP-12 in Roswell, GA??? That's right down the road >from me and I'd love to see it. Ken Seefried (in Alpharetta, GA)

23 years, 3 months

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DEC RRD42-AA SCSI CD-ROM

by Qstieee＠aol.com

I'll take that too.

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DEC RRD42-AA SCSI CD-ROM

by runtime＠wzrd.com

Needs a home. Importantly: there is NO caddy, and it's a caddy type drive. I haven't tested it but it was said to be in working order a couple of years ago. It's partially shink-wrapped in some sort of mylar-like material. Very odd. It's got a strange metal bracket that's perhaps for a large enclosure; it's not something I've seen for a CD but it reminds me of the drive brackets in a MicroVAX 3100/20. Mfg date 1992. Anyway, for shipping cost it's yours. Don Mitchell

23 years, 3 months

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Collectible Microcomputers

by rick＠jelcoventures.com

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23 years, 3 months

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Digital hard drives

by bmachacek＠pcisys.net

I have two (2) Digital RA-70 hard drives that I acquired from another scrounger several years ago. They look to be in excellent shape, but of course I cannot guarantee that they work. They are both very heavy. If anyone is interested in them, I will be happy to ship them to anyone willing to pay the shipping charges, what ever that may be. And they are heavy..... I would rather see someone use them instead of sending them off the the scrap heap..... Bill Machacek Colo. Springs, CO bmachacek(a)pcisys.net

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PDP-8/L repair

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: Charles <charlesmorris(a)direcway.com> > >On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:00:01 -0600, you wrote: > >>If you have an extender card, you should >>be able to trace the fault pretty quickly with a logic probe or >>an oscilloscope. >> >>Without an extender card, it's a lot harder. > >I agree. I have both an extender card and a scope, fortunately, >and have been using them extensively! > >>> This weekend, after quite a bit of signal chasing, I found that I >>> had put the variable delay line in the wrong slot some time ago >>> while cleaning connectors/mice nests! >> >>I've done stuff like that. > >The problem was, since my machine does not come with the parity >option installed, there are a few empty slots in the otherwise >unbroken string of handles touching each other...I still am >annoyed for doing it to myself though ;) > >Now to fix the core memory. ><HOPE> Shouldn't be too hard to find </HOPE> >since it's doing nothing. If it had flaky bits or words or pages, >different story, but absolutely dead can only be a few things. Ya, like a broken core sense wire! For the times I don't have an extension card, I solder some wires to points I expect to measure and tape them to a strip of wood that I lay on top of the machine. It is slow but works OK. It wouldn't work on a real fast machine because of reflections of unterminated lines but these older machines are not all that troublesome with one foot or so of wire. Dwight > >-Charles > >

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PDP 11

by jwillis＠arielusa.com

What type of PDP 11? -----Original Message----- From: Computermuseum Sent: Wed 1/15/2003 11:51 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Cc: Subject: PDP 11 Hi Someone intersted in a PDP 11? I have one for ... name your price... 500 Us$ Michel -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens J.C.Wren Verzonden: woensdag 15 januari 2003 19:47 Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Onderwerp: RE: How many PDP-12's are there now? I live in GA, very near Roswell. What's the info on the '12? --John > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org > [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]On > Behalf Of Robert Krten > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 00:04 > To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: How many PDP-12's are there now? > > > > So... > > all this discussion about PDP-12's has got me curious. > > How many of them are there in existence? > > It would certainly be interesting to get a list of machines and at > least city locations -- I'll start the list: > > Ottawa/ON/Canada (mine) > Roswell/GA/USA > > If anyone wants to send me info, I'll volunteer to collect and put it > up on my website (I won't put email addresses or other incriminating > evidence unless you want me to :-)). > > The other interesting thing that this discussion begs is the topic of > (borrowed term) "biomagnification". It's from the > environmental field, > and basically relates to how bigger animals get more than their "fair" > share of poisons because they eat smaller animals which have already > concentrated the poisons in their systems. I've borrowed the > term because > lately what I've been thinking about is the accumulated collections of > people who are no longer interested in collecting -- in this case, > instead of just getting one or two machines at a time, you tend to > get "clusters" of machines -- hence "biomagnification" :-) > > So... any collectors out there getting rid of PDP stuff? :-) > > Cheers, > -RK > > -- > Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 > minicomputers! > Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316. > Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at > www.parse.com

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PDP-8/L repair

by charlesmorris＠direcway.com

On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:00:01 -0600, you wrote: >If you have an extender card, you should >be able to trace the fault pretty quickly with a logic probe or >an oscilloscope. > >Without an extender card, it's a lot harder. I agree. I have both an extender card and a scope, fortunately, and have been using them extensively! >> This weekend, after quite a bit of signal chasing, I found that I >> had put the variable delay line in the wrong slot some time ago >> while cleaning connectors/mice nests! > >I've done stuff like that. The problem was, since my machine does not come with the parity option installed, there are a few empty slots in the otherwise unbroken string of handles touching each other...I still am annoyed for doing it to myself though ;) Now to fix the core memory. <HOPE> Shouldn't be too hard to find </HOPE> since it's doing nothing. If it had flaky bits or words or pages, different story, but absolutely dead can only be a few things. -Charles

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NeXT archives/museum?

by alanp＠snowmoose.com

Is there a NeXT archive or museum anywhere? I have a few documents that are historically interesting (one is a receipt for the very last magneto-optical cartridges that Canon had in stock) and would like them to go to a suitable home, if there is such a place. alan

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M100 Keys Sought

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> > >> > Is that the Samsung M100 phone? >> > Or the Lotus Elan M100? >> > (I doubt that you have the M100 spiral galaxy for sale) > >On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Scarletdown wrote: >> I'll sell you the Large Magellanic Cloud for $50,000, and throw in >> the Small Magellanic Cloud as a bonus. :) > >Sorry. >Much as I'd love to add it to my collection, I'm having MAJOR >problems with storage space - I had to hand over most of my >collection to Sellam, just due to lack adequate space. >(space is NOT expanding) > > Hi EPA might complain. Super nova 1997A has been spewing out a lot of radio active waste. Since this is part of it, shipping may also be an issue. Dwight

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Semi OT: Apple CD-ROM Driver 5.3.1

by SecretaryBird＠SoftHome.net

Anyone out there have the Apple CD-ROM Driver 5.3.1 that they might be willing to email my way? I just recently picked up a Toshiba XM- 520 SCSI CD-ROM drive in hopes of being able to use it with both my Apple IIGS and my Performa 405. I've been told that the GS (equipped as it is with a RAMFast SCSI Card) should handle it fine; but since the Performa is running System 7.5, I need the Apple CD-ROM Driver 5.3.1 from System 7.6 to be able to use non-Apple CD-ROM drives. -- Scarletdown

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M100 Keys Sought

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

Hmm... Now we're guessing between a cash register, a palmtop computer, a Tandy computer, a telephone, a jazzy car, or a spiral galaxy... I s'pose maybe his asking price will determine which it is....? Should I bet on the galaxy? Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of > "Scarletdown" <SecretaryBird(a)SoftHome.net> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:58 AM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: M100 Keys Sought > > From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: M100 Keys Sought > Send reply to: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=unsubscribe> > <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=subscribe> > Date sent: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:41:02 -0800 (PST) > > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Ed Chiodo wrote: > > > I have a mint condition M100 that I would like to sell. > > > One problem: the original keys were replaced with custom screened > > > keys for an OEM application. Does anyone know of a source for > > > replacement keys? > > > > Is that the Samsung M100 phone? > > Or the Lotus Elan M100? > > > > (I doubt that you have the M100 spiral galaxy for sale) > > I'll sell you the Large Magellanic Cloud for $50,000, and throw in > the Small Magellanic Cloud as a bonus. :) > > > > > >

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Ohio Scientific C4P-MF ROMs

by cott＠acclamation.com

Ethan Dicks wrote: >--- <mailto:cott@acclamation.com>cott(a)acclamation.com wrote: > > Can anyone out there with a C4P-MF send me the ROMs? > > I gave my CP4 motherboard to Hans Franke when I stayed with him > a few years ago. Perhaps he could help. I never had the whole > system, but I _think_ it was from a C4P-MF. > > -ethan Actually, I guess I wasn't clear: I don't need the physical ROMs, just the contents. If someone could Email them to me, that would be fine. Thanks, Chris Ott

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OT: paging MAC expert(s) --- What's a Performa

by nerdware＠ctgonline.org

If you go to http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=112379 you'll see the 6360 is a 603e running at 160MHz. It'll also tell you about what configuration it shipped in, max ram, etc. Paul ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS: Maryann; The portable should have a model number somewhere. That could give me some info as to processor and speed. Need that first. The "Performa" line was an attempt by Apple to sell through non-traditional stores like Sears and such. It was super easy to buy. It came preconfigured and was sold as a total package including mon. and printer. I believe the 6360 may be a "Power PC" and faster than the older Macs. It may also have remote infrared capabilities. You could see that in the small red window on the front. I am glad that you stuck with Mac an got an iMac. Wanna sell the 6360??? Paul Mika

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Update: BBC Acorn

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi, > ARM Evaluation Kit - yep - that's the one. I do have various discs and > manuals for it, too. I used to love the "twin" editor - several open files > at one, and could cut and paste between them. Ahead of it's time... yeah, that's it. Without any discs or being able to find anyone who knew anything about it I'm afraid mine got put in storage. I believe I've got the original polystyrene packaging for it, but no discs or outer box or anything (go figure) I've got some other BBC add-on in the same style housing as the ARM unit, but can't remember what it is now. It wasn't the teletext unit unfortunately, as that could have been interesting to play about with. > They were expensive, but much more expandable than the spectrum. At one > point I had about six of them in my bedroom on an econet network, had > several on modems running a multi-user BBS. excellent :-) I never got into the networking side of things with them (I've got all the fileserver/network for the RM Link machines which I believe were the schools alternative to having BBCs in the UK) Slowly picked up a few BBCs and assortments, plus I've got a Master somewhere that's fairly well modified from original spec (and an Acorn Cambridge Workstation which still needs a suitable hard drive and the OS discs to format it) Interesting machines as far as old 8-bitters go! > That was about the time I was still single, working for Ferranti Computer > Systems (and I've never seen ANY of their computers lying about anywhere... > ) and had plenty of money to indulge my hobby. I've got some sort of machine of theirs, housed in a shell a little bigger than an IBM XT, plus the guts of a second one - but I don't know if it's just some sort of XT clone. Uses an XT-style keyboard anyway and output was CGA compatible if I remember right. I certainly never got it to boot with any version of DOS I had though (from DOS 2.0 upward) - best I got was a 'missing operating system' one time. I seem to remember this machine is way more complex than the innards of an XT though, with about 1.5x the board space and a lot of ULA chips on board. I'm sure Ferranti produced much better machines than glorified IBM clones though, if that's what this is :-) cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Update: BBC Acorn

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 13, 19:35, Rob O'Donnell wrote: > At 09:44 14/01/2003 +0000, you wrote: > >Is that the "ARM evaluation unit" (or labelled as something similar)? I've got > >one of those *somewhere* but no docs / software for it. Think it had 4MB of > >memory which was a reasonable amount in those days. > > ARM Evaluation Kit - yep - that's the one. I do have various discs and > manuals for it, too. I used to love the "twin" editor - several open files > at one, and could cut and paste between them. Ahead of it's time... > > It's all boxed up somewhere under the stairs though. If you could dig out Disc 1 and make a copy, I'd be very grateful. I have an ARM Evaluation Kit too, with most of the manuals, but my Disc 1 is corrupt (blank track right in the middle of the assembler file). > That was about the time I was still single, working for Ferranti Computer > Systems (and I've never seen ANY of their computers lying about > anywhere... ) Hmm... I know someone who has just acquired a chunk of one -- not sure how much, but "most of it" is possibly a fair description. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Shark Update

by avickers＠solutionengineers.com

Right. If you don't like tales of endurance, adventure, battle and gore, turn away now. Same thing goes if you don't like happy endings... A trilogy, in four parts: (orig. (c) Douglas Adams) Part 1: I decided that rather than wait for ICPUG to deliver a disk, I'd go ahead and try to make my X1541 cable, which would allow me to use either the 1541 I just got, or the 1541-II I already had to transfer the Mator "discdiag" program over to the PET. Rather than the plain old X1541 (which probably wouldn't work with my "big" PC, I decided on the XE1541, which should work. I'm not going the whole hog & making parallel drives, etc. I can afford the time. So: 5pm, trip to Maplins to get the components. "Sorry guvnor, no diodes in stock". OK - fall back to the plain X1541 then; at least it'll work on my 486. "Oh, and no D25 plugs either". FFS! OK, plan 'B' (made up on the spot) - use a D25 socket (available) & a male-male genderbender (available). Woohoo! That and some cable & a couple of 6-pin DINs (1 spare, 'cos I usually knacker one trying to solder them). Wait 1hr for train home. I *knew* I should have taken the car... Then again, the traffic jam was horrendus, so glad I didn't. Arrived home, found most of my soldering gear, except the tin of excellent tip cleaner/tinner. Nevermind, tip's still clean enough. Apply vice to desk, start soldering 6-pin DIN. Amazingly, I didn't completely wreck it (although some of the pins needed realigning afterwards). *Surely* there's an easier way?? Copious use of multimeter to ensure no shorts. Everything checks out, even with the connector all sealed up. Huzzah! OK, I took special care wiring up the D25 socket, making sure I had the exact right pins, everything. Since the X1541 requires the GND pin connecting across ALL of the data lines (well, that's what the diagram says, I'm not sure if it's optional or not), I improvise a bar using a regular staple & lots of solder. Hook everything up. Re-check all connections with multimeter - everything AOK! All pins connected, no pins shorting out, we're hot to rock! Dig the 486 out of the dim & distant corner it's lurking in. Power up, copy Star Commander across. Plug M-M genderbender into cable, plug into parallel port. Root 1541 out of cupboard, plug in. This is where things start to go wrong.... The power & drive lights come on, but the drive light fails to go out. Uh-oh. Unplug everything, re-check wiring. No problems. Re-connect everything - same behaviour. Download X1541test.exe, load it onto 486, follow bent paperclip instructions (only with a staple). No probs, p/port is compatible. Hmmm.... Finally, I re-test the cable with the genderbender still in place: Doh! It's mirror-imaged all the connections! So, my carefully soldered cable looks just like I'd made the most elementary f**kup imaginable. Grrr. Eat dinner in moody silence. Return to soldering iron. Getting that staple bus-bar out is a real pig. I'm probably lucky I didn't fry the LPT port. Or the 1541 for that matter... Anyway, finally it all works, so I format a disk, copy an image over, and wander upstairs to try it out. Part 2: Things start to go wrong again..... First, I try the disk in an 8050: No joy. So, back downstairs, pick up the 4040, back upstairs. If you know your Commodores, you will know that the 4040 should work. Well, it didn't. Getting a bit worried now, I wander back downstairs & re-check the disk; yep, still readable. Root a 3040 out of the cupboard, add plug. Take 3040 & disk upstairs. Plug 3040 in & switch on; there's a small "snap" noise, and FLAMES! Pull mains plug out in a hurry, but the fire continues; luckily, it's only small, and I can simply blow it out: No opening the window & slinging the drive into the street - phew!. Open 3040 up, it looks like an electrolytic cap has burned out (literally, there is smoke damage above it in the case). Still, that explains why the fuse didn't blow - the power side is still quite alright. So, 3040 down, 8050 no good, 4040 no good. Despairing, I turn to the net, to discover that the 4040 *should* be OK. Worried now that I didn't write the disk in GCR format... However, I re-try the disk, this time in drive 1, and after a couple of false starts it's away & working! Woohoo! Part 3: OK, now the drive is OK and I've got the program loaded, I start up the hard-drive. 25 seconds it takes, from power on to availablilty. Try a diR; get 2 chars then nothing, computer (CBM710) has crashed. Re-boot computer with power switch, try again - same problem. Uh-oh, has the HDD died? I try the only thing I know is different, switch off 4040 & try again (same problem), then physically disconnect 4040 - problem solved. So, the 4040 has an IEEE problem (or maybe a DOS problem, I don't know which). With that little dilemma solved, I re-load the diagnostics program from the 4040, save it to HDD (that works with the 4040 plugged in, for some reason). Unplug 4040, run diags program. Huzzah! Finally, we made it! (wipes sweat from brow). Old computers, eh? You just gotta love 'em. Part 4: I set the "bad sector report" going, then had a peek at the manual because it looks like the 710 has crashed again - however, it turns out it's going to take about 10mins for the HDD to locate all its duff sectors. So that's OK, leave it 10 mins. I'm expecting it to be in bad shape, but actually there are only about 17 reallocations. I can't remember how big a Commodore sector is, but given that there is nearly 82250 blocks of total disk space, that seems like a very low number (again, bear in mind this h/w is approaching 20 years old). I tried a few "random reads" (all reported no errors), and the machine literally shook about the place as the head moved back & forth. Wow.... Try doing that with a little IDE drive! So, that's it really. It looks like the Shark is in swimmingly (sorry) good order, and it does in fact work OK with the 8050; it's just the 4040 which causes it grief. --------------------End-------------------- If you found the above boring, then please don't read it. Thankyou. And now, some questions: 1) Is it actually possible to copy files from one unit (i.e. diskdrive) to another (i.e. Shark)? The COPY command can't (it even says so in the manual), and I guess it's understandable given that most people would have had a dual drive unit, and maybe a tape deck, but little else with their PETs. 2) Does anyone know anything about the "Interpod" IEEE-->Serial thing? I have one of these, and during Part 2 above, I tried using it to (a) connect the 8050 to the X1541 cable, and (b) connect the 1541 to the PET, but neither application worked in any way shape or form. So, do I have a duff Interpod, or does it require some s/w on the computer to operate correctly (if so, I suspect it's a C64 specific thing). I believe it was used to connect a C64 to the Shark hard drive. 3) Does *anyone* make DIN plugs which don't melt if you bring a soldering iron within 5ft of them? 4) Where's my coffee? That's all folks! Now I've verified the Shark is in pretty sound condition, I'll try taking some decent photos of it, inside & out. And yes Jeffrey, I'll try to make sure there's some good hi-res pictures of it :) Although I am a bit short of extra lighting, so we'll have to see what the built-in flash is capable of, I'm afraid. -- Cheers, Ade. Be where it's at, B-Racing! http://b-racing.com

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Update: BBC Acorn

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Rob, > BBC mostly, though not in a "must have everything" sense. Just because I > spent many years making a sort of living off them. I've got one of Acorn's > original ARM development systems though (connects to the BBC) which I've > had since they were hot off the press. Is that the "ARM evaluation unit" (or labelled as something similar)? I've got one of those *somewhere* but no docs / software for it. Think it had 4MB of memory which was a reasonable amount in those days. I've got a whole pile of other BBC and related stuff, but I've generally forgotten what I have - your posting made me remember the ARM unit. Funny how people don't remember the BBC systems that well - I suppose they were generally quite expensive to have at home (compared to the Spectrums and C64 machines) and in a school environment people didn't get much of a chance to really play about with them. They're certainly quite well designed machines... cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Guess What Operating System...

by Andreas.Freiherr＠Vishay.com

... uses a dot as a prompt and responds to each of the commands "dir", "date", "ver" and a lot of others only with a "?"...? This question was asked at the Frankfurt Meeting 2002, an event of the "realtime special interest group" (RT-SIG) within German DECUS. I wasn't there, but just read an article in the "DECUS Bulletin". It looks like the system was presented to the audience life from a networked notebook. The report has it that after some guessing, someone suggested to try uppercase, and "VER" lead to the solution: EURO-12, running on a real, still fully functional PDP-12, connected to a terminal server, allowing the notebook to display the dialog. There is a small, but high quality picture in the bulletin, showing the blinkenlights (some of them actually illuminated) and switches, a screen that might be a GT40 or something that looks similar, and a dual DECtape drive (TU56, I guess). WOW! -- Andreas Freiherr Vishay Semiconductor GmbH, Heilbronn, Germany http://www.vishay.com

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M100 Keys Sought

by echiodo＠optonline.net

I have a mint condition M100 that I would like to sell. One problem: the original keys were replaced with custom screened keys for an OEM application. Does anyone know of a source for replacement keys? - Ed

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OT: paging MAC expert(s) --- What's a Performa

by cb＠mythtech.net

> My main complaint: Other than adding RAM or PCI cards, upgrades are >nearly impossible with that impenetrable case. It isn't too bad once you have done it a few times... and having the take apart directions from Apple makes life SOOO much easier. The trick is popping that front panel off. Of course, the motherboard just slides out the back, so unless you are upgrading the drives, it is fairly easy access for RAM and PCI cards. If you want a copy of the Apple PDF on the 6400/6500 let me know, I'll dig mine out and send it over to you. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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A Few New Finds Today

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I will gladly keep my eyes open for a set for you. At auction this only >cost me $10 because no one there wanted Mac stuff. Thanks. >As to were I get this stuff it's mostly at thrift's and auctions (the best >are schools and tech businesses The trifts around here never have anything that great, also tend to be expensive, and one of them won't even sell CPUs, just the rest of the stuff that went with it. (I finally got official word as to what happens when someone drops off a computer.. they told me it isn't an issue, they refuse them at the door, and they now chain off the lot at night and Sundays when they are closed so people can't drop off stuff and leave). Schools around here don't seem to auction things publically (once in a while they do them privately inside the school, but for the most part, they just throw stuff out... but at least I made a contact with someone at the school board of one of the local towns and told them to cut it out, if they are chucking things, give them to me, I'll take care of removal and disposal... they liked the idea as it reduced their costs, but I haven't heard from them since... maybe they just haven't tossed anything since I contacted them, I'll have to give them another call soon). And businesses... humm... around here, there are a few Pharmacutical companies, that is about it of size... and they destroy anything being disposed of (I tried REALLY REALLY hard to get stuff from one that was doing a major upgrade... they were literally throwing out brand new 15" LCD screens because they upped everyone to 17"s before all of the 15" were given out... but their policy dictated that they must be destroyed, so they were cracking them all before chucking them in the dumpster... I have a friend that works at the place, and he said it was killing him to do it and he and I made a number of calls to see if at the very least they would donate them to a local school or something... and people wonder why drugs cost so much in the USA!!). So it sounds like I am just in a crappy part of the country for computer salvage. I'll have to start poking around for other auctions... and maybe make a trip to the local land of landfills and see if any of the yards get machines they want to have removed. But at least I have been on the right track... I'm just going to have to try harder in the future. Thanks for the tips. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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[dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca: Re: PDP-11 stuff to get rid of]

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

More details. Bill ----- Forwarded message from David Evans <dfevans(a)bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> ----- Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:22:46 -0500 From: David Evans <dfevans(a)bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> To: Bill Bradford <mrbill(a)mrbill.net> Subject: Re: PDP-11 stuff to get rid of On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 10:13:58AM -0600, Bill Bradford wrote: > I can find some people to get it, if its okay for me to forward your > mail to a couple of mailing lists. > Sure. It's just way too massive, I can't devote proper power to it, and I can get the same amusement value in my 11/73 using SCSI disks on an MSCP adapter. It's located in Waterloo, in southern Ontario, Canada. I'd love to trade it for a PDP-11 nameplate for a BA123 (mine right now claims to be a VAXstation II/GPX) or maybe some more memory for my KDJ11-B, but I wouldn't say no to somebody willing to take it for the price of helping haul it down the stairs. :-) I have the rack rails and some SDI cables, too. I guess I could throw in a KDA50, since I doubt I'll ever need that given that I have the SCSI controller, but I can just as easily hang on to those boards since they're little. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans(a)bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Ph.D. Candidate, Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual ----- End forwarded message ----- -- bill bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net austin, texas

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[dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca: PDP-11 stuff to get rid of]

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Contact David directly if interested. ----- Forwarded message from David Evans <dfevans(a)bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> ----- Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 10:06:15 -0500 From: David Evans <dfevans(a)bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> To: mrbill(a)pdp11.org Subject: PDP-11 stuff to get rid of You want to come and haul my RA80 away? :-) -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans(a)bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Ph.D. Candidate, Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual ----- End forwarded message ----- -- bill bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net austin, texas

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Richard Crandall just cancelled a payment to you

by rick＠jelcoventures.com

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Ohio Scientific C4P-MF ROMs

by cott＠acclamation.com

I'm sure some of you in this group have heard of the "Catweasel" floppy controller, which allows you to read nearly any type of floppy. Recently, I sent Email to the manufacturer asking if they thought there was any possibility their controller would read my Ohio Scientific C4P floppies. After a little discussion, we decided it could. However, it turns out they're working on a new project: a hardware emulator for old 6502-based machines. Right now, it only emulates a Commodore 64, but they say that, if I can get them the ROMs, they can make it emulate a C4P, too. I sent them the ROMs from my cassette-based C4P, but it would be really cool if we could do the floppy-based one. Can anyone out there with a C4P-MF send me the ROMs? Thanks, Chris Ott

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Help with pricing on vintage computers?

by gmanuel＠gmconsulting.net

Hi Everyone, I am new to the list and really love it already. I was wondering if anyone knew if there was a resource, like Kelley Blue Book sort of, for vintage computer pricing? I have several to sell and several I would like to get, but I have no idea what to ask or expect to pay for them (or even if they are collectible for that matter LOL). Any help would be appreciated. I am not looking for a book per se, but some place (a website maybe?) to get some ball park figures. Thanks, Greg Manuel

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cctalk digest, Vol 1 #378 - 36 msgs

by gstreet＠indy.net

> 7. Xenix OS for early generation IBM PC (Ron Collison) > 8. Macro Assembler for early generation PC (Ron Collison) > 9. 8086/8088 Primer - an intro to the Architecture, System > Design, & Programming (Ron Collison) Hello Ron, Indeed, I'm interested too! Thank you, Robert Greenstreet

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M100 Keys Sought

by 3sdiarftt02＠sneakemail.com

No, I've found it, the: Novx M100 Multipoint Microprocessor Continuous Reference Ground Monitor http://www.novxcorp.com/html/m100.html (Isn't Google fun?) > > Now we're guessing between a cash register, a palmtop computer, a > Tandy > > computer, a telephone, a jazzy car, or a spiral galaxy... > > Certainly he means a DIY M100 Analogue Modular Synthesizer project! > http://www.takeonetech.de/buchi/m100/ > > Or maybe a Lotus Elan M100, or a Konica Q-M100 digital camera, or a > Sharp 19N-M100 television? Chris J.

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M100 Keys Sought

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

Cute... Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "No Junk > Mail" <3sdiarftt02(a)sneakemail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:07 AM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: RE: M100 Keys Sought > > > Should I bet on the galaxy? > > No keys. > > > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Ed Chiodo wrote: > > > > I have a mint condition M100 that I would like to sell. > > > > One problem: the original keys were replaced with custom screened > > > > keys for an OEM application. Does anyone know of a source for > > > > replacement keys?

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Re: NeXT archives/museum?

by joe_web＠worldonline.fr

hello, i waqnt to open a museum next summer/winter. if i can have some documents, i am interrest. do you speak french or german, because i live in frane, and my english is not very good. by ---------- Initial Header -----------

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M100 Keys Sought

by 3sdiarftt02＠sneakemail.com

> > I have a mint condition M100 that I would like to sell. > > One problem: the original keys were replaced with custom screened > > keys for an OEM application. > > Does anyone know where I can get replacement keys? > You mean the Sord M100, don't you? > I'd keep the keys as they are - IMO they make an ordinary machine, > well, a > little less ordinary. Nah, it's the Milonio M100 pool cue http://users.myexcel.com/hughtiernan/cues/id88.htm But seriously, leave the keys and try and include any material related to the reason for the custom job. Historically much more interesting that way... Chris J.

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M100 Keys Sought

by Ed_Chiodo＠compuserve.com

I have a mint condition M100 that I would like to sell. One problem: the original keys were replaced with custom screened keys for an OEM application. Does anyone know where I can get replacement keys? Thanks, Ed

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Fwd: Apple mouse needed in Belgium

by dan＠ekoan.com

Can anyone in Belgium help this fellow? >From: "Arthur Odekerken" <admin(a)cchasselt.be> >To: <dan(a)decodesystems.com> >Subject: Apple mouse >Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 23:51:07 +0100 > >Hi! > >I am a systems administrator at a cultural center in Belgium. We have 3 >light tables (12 years old) that are steered with a mouse but we only have >one mouse left. It was very hard for me to find a mouse that worked, >because it had to be a female DB9 Serial plug, with at least 7 cables >soldered. Finally I came across the Apple M0100 (Made in the U.S.A. type >590-0320). At your website I found some pictures of the same mouse. My >question now is, do you know where I can find such a mouse, because if I >don't find it, it could cost the centre a lot more money than just the >price of one mouse. > >Thanks! > >Arthur Odekerken

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PDP-12 on eBay

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Hi Chad / readers, I am not sure either, but this is what I know for sure. Before the merger SPERRY/Burroughs, Burroughs had a systems line but I do not know anything about those. SPERRY had the 1100-series; I programmed even assembly (MASM-1100) on those fine main frames. After the merger, so now it is UNISYS, the 2200 came available. It has a smaller footprint, lower power consumption, but is compatible with the 1100. Compiled/assmbled programs from the 1100 run on the 2200 without any re-compilation. I worked with the 1100 from 1990 to 1995, unitl I left the company. Never had any contact to 1100's afterward. Sometimes I miss the "@ASG,T" and all other demand-mode commands and the assembly language ... EXEC was (is?) a real good OS. - Henk. > -----Original Message----- > From: Chad Fernandez [mailto:fernande@internet1.net] > Sent: woensdag 15 januari 2003 6:24 > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: PDP-12 on eBay > > > Gooijen H wrote: > > Later, somewhere around 1989, they introduced the 2200, the smaller > > version of the 1100, but runs the same instruction set. > > I vagely remember that the 2200 line was called the "A-series", as > > there was also a "B-series" as a result of the merger of SPERRY and > > BURROUGHS to the new UNISYS. > > But, I am not sure. I left that company (and fine 1100) in 1990 ... > > > > - Henk. > > I'm not sure 100% sure either, but I recall differently (but > only from > reading). The 2200 was the Sperry's mainframe contribution > to Unisys. > The A-Series was from the Burroughs side. > > I don't remember hearing about any "B-Series". Do you mean > the systems > that ran Btos..... I think that's what it was called. I don't think > they were mainframe class, but I'm not sure on that either :-) > > Chad Fernandez > Michigan, USA > >

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Richard Crandall just cancelled a payment to you

by alanp＠snowmoose.com

I think someone gave PayPal the wrong e-mail address for payment. alan Bruce Lane wrote: What the...? *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 14-Jan-03 at 21:40 rick(a)jelcoventures.com wrote: >Richard Crandall cancelled the following payment to you: > >Amount: $29.95 Why do I get the feeling this should have been in private E-mail? Whodaheck is Richard Crandall, anyway? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

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Collectible Microcomputers

by 3sdiarftt02＠sneakemail.com

ROTFLMA > rick-at-jelcoventures.com |CC| <aj85h8qq6k0t(a)sneakemail.com> wrote: > > You've got cash! > > Richard Crandall just sent you money with PayPal.

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PDP-12 on eBay

by GOOI＠oce.nl

> -----Original Message----- > From: Chad Fernandez [mailto:fernande@internet1.net] > Sent: dinsdag 14 januari 2003 7:53 > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: PDP-12 on eBay > > Look where Unisys is today :-( They mostly sell intel based > stuff. I know a few years ago they still marketed some > A Series machines, but I think it existed as a carry over > from an earlier time. I worked with SPERRY and later UNISYS 1100 machines. Big main frames. They have a 36-bit architecture and the nice part of if is that you can always read the octal dump, because a 36-bit word was always the complete instruction. With "multi-byte" instructions in a dump it is a bit more difficult to find the start of an instruction. SPERRY had a character set called FIELDATA. It is 6-bit (uppercase only), so you fit put 6 characters in one (36-bit) word. Later, somewhere around 1989, they introduced the 2200, the smaller version of the 1100, but runs the same instruction set. I vagely remember that the 2200 line was called the "A-series", as there was also a "B-series" as a result of the merger of SPERRY and BURROUGHS to the new UNISYS. But, I am not sure. I left that company (and fine 1100) in 1990 ... - Henk.

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M100 Keys Sought

by 3sdiarftt02＠sneakemail.com

I'm guessing the original poster is referring to a fairly modern Palm PDA. If so, I'd recommend leaving in the custom keys. There are only four main buttons plus up/down and they can be reassigned using software so the icons are, on the whole, unimportant. Chris J. > In this context, what is an M100. In my company, the designation > refers to > a Radiant branded touch-screen cash register with a NetPC (smal box, > baby-ATX form factor) driven by WINNT 3.51. I'm sure tis isn't the > same... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > I have a mint condition M100 that I would like to sell. > > One problem: the original keys were replaced with custom screened > keys for > > an OEM application. > > Does anyone know where I can get replacement keys?

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VAXStation 4000/60 (claimed)

by rick＠netadel.com

Someone has claimed this.. thanks for all that were interested - it's nice to know that stuff I get emotionally attached to (ie: anything I touch), can go to a good home :) ---------------------------------------------- PLEASE NOTE: This e-mail server will be in the process of transitioning >from one IP address to another on 01/25/2003. If you experience un- deliverable email, bounced email, or other stangenesses, it is probably due to the move. Please try back in a couple of days if your mail to me gets messed up. ---------------------------------------------------

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Xenix OS for early generation IBM PC

by collison＠cnri.reston.va.us

Title on unopened box: "IBM Personal Computer XENIX Software Development System" - its on 51/4 floppies. Includes the Xenix Operating System and documentation, etc. This a new package, e.g. still shrink wrapped. Min. config. requirements on PC is 512K Ram & 20Mb HD Anyone interested?

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A Few New Finds Today

by cb＠mythtech.net

>1. Black Macintosh TV no mouse, KB, or remote with it. Will test it on >Wednesday. If you happen to ever come across any of the mouse, kb, remotes... I could use a set. I have a Mac TV (finally... thanks John!!!), but it lacks its extras as well (and currently is supposed to be DOA, but I hope to finally have a look at it this weekend). I only run this by you because you seem to have the magical ability to find the most awesome stuff at little to no cost... where DO you do you hunting?!? Oh, and FYI: the MacTV will work with a universal remote. Sony TV code. At least that is true with my PowerMac, which came with a remote that is also compatible with the MacTV, so I draw the conclusion that the MacTV should also be compatible with a universal remote, sony code set. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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M100 Keys Sought

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

It'd be real nice if he'd specify... eh? Cheers... Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "No Junk > Mail" <3sdiarftt02(a)sneakemail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:34 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: RE: M100 Keys Sought > > > I'm guessing the original poster is referring to a fairly modern Palm PDA. > > If so, I'd recommend leaving in the custom keys. There are only four main > buttons plus up/down and they can be reassigned using software so the > icons are, on the whole, unimportant. > > Chris J. > > > In this context, what is an M100. In my company, the designation > > refers to > > a Radiant branded touch-screen cash register with a NetPC (smal box, > > baby-ATX form factor) driven by WINNT 3.51. I'm sure tis isn't the > > same... > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > I have a mint condition M100 that I would like to sell. > > > One problem: the original keys were replaced with custom screened > > keys for > > > an OEM application. > > > Does anyone know where I can get replacement keys?

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M100 Keys Sought

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

In this context, what is an M100. In my company, the designation refers to a Radiant branded touch-screen cash register with a NetPC (smal box, baby-ATX form factor) driven by WINNT 3.51. I'm sure tis isn't the same... Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of ED CHIODO > <Ed_Chiodo(a)compuserve.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:47 PM > To: CCTALK > Subject: M100 Keys Sought > > I have a mint condition M100 that I would like to sell. > One problem: the original keys were replaced with custom screened keys for > an OEM application. > Does anyone know where I can get replacement keys? > > Thanks, > Ed

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Help with pricing on vintage computers?

by mikeford＠socal.rr.com

I love this logic, the price on ebay a place where all the traditional requirements of willing buyer, willing seller, and open market are met, isn't valid because its too high. No the acceptable price is the price you once saw in a scrapyard after years of digging through the place 3 times a week and have never seen since.

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Dos V3.2, V3.10, & V2.0 - who was looking for this?

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

Hi Ron! INTEREST!!! INTEREST!!! INTEREST!!! INTEREST!!! I'm the guy looking for eraly copies of DOS -- anything in the 3.xx range. I'm most interested in the texts, but definitely wouldn't turn down the OS software if it came along! Prefer 3.5 floppy, but can load-on a 5.25 reader to my system if neded. I'm reachable off-list at wrathbone(a)hotmail.com or ICQ 10460417. INTEREST!!! INTEREST!!! INTEREST!!! INTEREST!!! Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of Ron > Collison <collison(a)cnri.reston.va.us> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:35 AM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Dos V3.2, V3.10, & V2.0 - who was looking for this? > > I found several versions of DOS in my collectibles, incl.: > DOS V3.10 on 51/4 floppies with ref manual, user's guide, & applic setup > guide > DOS V2.0 on 51/4 floppies with ref manual > DOS V3.2 users guide [may have the OS on floppies, but would need to > determine interest prior to searching] > Anyway, there was some traffic a few days ago from someone looking for an > early version of DOS on floppies, 51/4 I think > So, anyone out there interested? >

23 years, 3 months

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A Few New Finds Today

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

At auction I picked up the following: 1. Black Macintosh TV no mouse, KB, or remote with it. Will test it on Wednesday. 2. Box of 82+ video cards. 3. Box of New capacitors (100's). 4. Many more items but too new to list in detail. At thrifts: 1. TI external disk controller model PHP1800C 2. 3-CompacTape TK50 cartridges from digital. The labels on them read: Vax RDB/VMS 4.1A STAND TK; RDB 5.1A STANDARD TK50; and Vax RDB/VMS 4.1A MULTI TK5. Each was $1

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Hackers Guide to the APPLE II

by cmurray＠eagle.ca

Hi all Does anyone know where I can get the Hackers Guide to the Apple II. I know the controversy surrounding the subject but this Guide was mostly directed to the hardware-side of the Apple and permitted one to program it to control gadgets around the house. Many thanks. Murray--

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Help with pricing on vintage computers?

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

The "model" (whatever it is) might be correct for market situations where the buyer and seller can negotiate a price, but I doubt that it was designed to cover situations like auctions, especially eBay auctions. My last $0.02 on this subject. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 3:31 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Help with pricing on vintage computers? <snip> The science, and the model, is correct. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 3 months

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AERCO RAM Upgrade for Atari-ST

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

One of my beloved Classic Computers is an Atari-ST. It's only a 520-ST (512k RAM), so in the heyday... I bought a RAM upgrade to bring it up to 2.5mb of RAM, with the possibility of 4mb... I've lost the manual, and also... The upgrade no longer works at all... Does anyone have the manual for one of these they can send me, or point me to someone who will sell me a RAM upgrade for this unit? I still have instructions to solder chips to get it to 1mb, but I'd prefer to max it out if I can. Also, I'm looking for a SCSI adapter for it, as I have several SCSI drives from 80mb to 1.2gb. I'd like to put one on here to make it more useful. I won a Spectre 128 GCR adapter on eBay a few months ago, so a 4mb (or so) Mac Plus, would be a useful machine to use for Wordprocessing... Or just for play. I'm going to TCF this year and hoping to spot a Color Display for this unit so I can play some of the old games in Color. I have a composite cable that runs to my Amiga Monitor, but the display isn't all that crisp. I have some Tandy Color Computer Stuff for trade (Editor/Assembler for Coco III, Serial to Parallel Adapter, Disk System & Controller, RS-232 Adapter, more...), and possibly some other interesting things, including cash... Regards, Al __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

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OT: paging MAC expert(s) --- What's a Performa

by cb＠mythtech.net

> I have an old macintosh portable I bought in 1995. I have no idea what >it is worth but I love it. I am also not very computer literate. I also >own a macintosh preforma 6360. I now own an imac. Maryann DeMatthews Well, I'm not sure what you are getting at with your email, but the question posed in the subject line was "what's a Performa"... and the simple answer is... a Mac that Apple produced during a time when they thought that different names would increase sales. Performa's were the same Mac's as the LCs, and some Quadra's and PowerMac's. Apple was under the misguided notion that if you complicate the product line by releasing the same computer under 3 different names, you could convince different market segments to buy their version of the computer at their price. LC's were marketed to education and sold at one price, with one software bundle Performa's were marketed to the home user, sold at a different price, and with a different software bundle and Quadra's and PowerMac's were marketed to businesses, at an even more inflated price and with almost no software bundled. Of course, I am SOOO glad that Apple decided to go to the opposite extreme with their product lines, and name everything, no matter how radically different, the exact same thing. Makes it so wonderful to try and figure out what model someone is using over the phone -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

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PDP-12 on eBay

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

>On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, John Honniball wrote: > There's one in the Science Museum (London) collection. It appeared in > Tim Hunkin's "Secret Life of Machines" TV series a few years ago. I missed the context of this, but that grabbed my attention. Is it actually *at* the Science Museum - or out at Wroughton? I only recently found out that all the large stuff is kept off-site there and can be visited by prior arrangement; I must go for a wander around sometime... cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

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International shipping

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I sell all over the world and have no troubles with it, many times the cost of shipping is more than the cost. I almost always use the US Postal System for overseas shipment. They have reliable systems and treat packages much better than UPS. Global Priority mail for items under a kilo is very easy and the USPS will even provide envelopes and boxes for small stuff. The Post Office also has a software program that will allow you to calculate shipping anywhere in the world besides the US. It is the USPS Postal Assistant and you can get it on CD or download it from the USPS. Since the rate charts need regular updating it is easier to use the download. There are interesting differences over the world. For instance Global priority will not work to Italy, only regular air post. These are easy to figure out with the USPS software. The USPS is also very competitive on shipping to other countries. When I do estimates of cost, the USPS always wins over sending by UPS, Airborne or Federal Express. FedEx often comes in second by the way. USPS works internationally, quite well. Paxton Astoria, OR

23 years, 3 months

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Dec 3000/300 keyboard/mouse box

by steven_nikkel＠ertyu.org

I recovered a couple Dec 3000/300 machines at work, with keyboards and mice and can't find any of the keyboard/mice break out boxes. What do they look like? Or where can I find them inexpensively? -- Steven Nikkel

23 years, 3 months

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Further Ebay Madness: On topic

by jpl15＠panix.com

One of the Tandy 486 machines from the Treasury Sale of the old Mustang Ranch brothel in Nevada... data intact!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=179&item=2084442322 Asking $895.00 - auction ended - nobody bid. 10 OPEN REG #mind(brain)((skull)) 20 SET (@boggle = TRUE) 30 CLOSE ((skull))(brain) 40 PONDER {world_is_getting_wierd} Cheerz John

23 years, 3 months

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Let Programmers Worldwide Bid On Your Tech Projects

by mediaking8＠libero.it

Can you imagine being able to post any kind of computer project and have a variety of programmers from this country as well as all over the world bid on it? It is the power of outsourcing merged with the power of auction bidding, and may the best man win. Our programming team can handle anything you have in mind: C++, Oracle, Java, ASP, Visual Basic, Web design, business applications, security and cryptography, database apps, and anything else you want to post. They work on all operating system platforms: .NET, Windows CE, Palm, as well as platforms you never heard of. And it costs you nothing up front to post a job. Just pay a very small commission if and when you find a programmer that meets your needs. Are you a talented programmer or do you run a programming operation? Want more work? If you can answer "Yes", then we're just what you're looking for. For more info: http://www.project-outsource.net.dj@ns.todnkewgrpy.ph/search.php?id=oucomnw ----------------------------------------------------------------- You received this mail because this is a Join Up List. If you feel you received is in error, click here http://www.project-outsource.net.dj@ns.todnkewgrpy.ph/search.php?id=oucomnr and we will courteously take you off our rosters. search words: suspensory warday angloman textman hypinosis chromophilous

23 years, 3 months

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Fw: KIM audio files

by edsa＠alphalink.com.au

Hi. Do you own the KIM-1 Repository website? I tried sending to the following email addr given on the page but it bounced... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed" <edsa(a)alphalink.com.au> To: <dogbert(a)mindless.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 2:37 PM Subject: KIM audio files > Hi, > > I've "just stumbled over The KIM-1 repository" :) > > I don't have a KIM-1 myself though I've had an interest in things > 6502 having once owned a UK101, C64 etc. > > I was particularly interested in your sampled KIM programs. > > I've also been experimenting with the computer programs stored > on audio cassette. My webpage has an encoder/decoder for Kansas > City Standard formatted tapes. www.alphalink.com.au/~edsa > > I noticed your WAV files are 16 bit mono, 11025 samples/sec. > I've found that using a resolution of 8-bits is more than adequate > for this type of task. Using 8 bit would cut your filesize by half! > > While researching the Kansas City Standard tape format, I read a > comment suggesting this was also used by KIM. However some > digging indicated this was not so. > > Since completing the KCS program, I felt the techniques used > could be adapted for just about any format including KIM. > However I wasn't sure how much demand there might be for a > KIM version. If you or other KIM users would be interest in > such a program, let me know. > > regards, > Ed > >

23 years, 3 months

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Clinton Macintosh Repair & Maintenance Manual

by morgan＠cleptoscastle.com

I would be very interested in any Macintosh literature anyone may have that they do not need. Thank you. Morgan

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Was there a DEC LINC-5 (not -8)?

by classiccmp＠crash.com

Sellam wrote: . >> strongly remember being labeled as a LINC-5, definitely DEC, a large . > Are you sure it wasn't a PDP-5? It definitely said LINC - the questionable part is that I think it said '-5', but I've never heard of a LINC-5 since then. I would've remembered if it said PDP-5. I'm beginning to think I must have gotten the number wrong somehow... In which case, it was still a pretty uncommon beast to come across, even though I didn't really get to know it. Can anyone say how tall a LINC-8 stood? Perhaps the countertop we had under the console was a post-sale addition. This comes partly >from staring at the picture of a LINC-8 here: http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/vs-dec-linc-8.jpg Thanks, all. --Steve.

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DOS 1.0

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

The "this page left blank" was a borrow from military 'technical orders.' Though quite stodgy about their regs t times, they mostly new that improvements and innovations would soon render a fixed document obsolete. So, they kept them in binders, replaced outdated pages with updated ones, and kept the "blank" pages as place holders (0's, if you like) for expansion beyond the then current document/section/segment length. Clear as mud? Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "Live Wire" > <livewire(a)netadel.com> > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 10:58 PM > To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: DOS 1.0 > > > infamous "This page intentionally left blank" page. What's up with > that?? > > I have a stack of these pages ;) > > > I do also memember Wordstar and it's arcane command sequences. Those > > commands persisted though, through a number of ordinary text editors for > > programmers & such. > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/joe-editor/ > > This is as close to wordstar and the WS CTRL-K-x command set I have found. > I used to use wordstar on a tiny portable computer with a 4 line display > to > write asm for the amiga 500 and then dump it via the built in modem. > Joe is my favorite editor today, though I find myself living in vi for the > most part... >

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[MichaelDumas1@aol.com: VAX 4000-700 computer Center]

by classiccmp＠crash.com

This computer center is also listed on eBay, FYI: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1479&item=2300985733 --S.

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Help with pricing on vintage computers?

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

One could always do a mean and standard deviation on a group of eBay prices and get a reasonable measure of what a typical price might be. Still, you cannot deny that the extreme prices are actual prices that somebody paid. Just don't expect to get that much every time (or even ever again). Bob -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail [mailto:foo@siconic.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 2:30 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Help with pricing on vintage computers? <snip> There are, and have been, for decades, valid mathematical and actuarial methods for determining the value of a given object based on several criteria, including of course supply and demand. Why should ending prices of eBay auctions all of a sudden supercede that science? <snip>

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Wicat 150

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Hi, I just checked the Wicat that I picked up recently. It powers up and gives a flashing block cursor on the screen but no other screen display. Is that normal? The hard drive spins up and recalibrates after about ten seconds but it's not being accessed otherwise. Any sugggestions? This one came from the Navel Training systems Center in Orlando Florida and it's very clean inside and has a full set of cards including what I think is a 2nd (optional) memory card. There's also a CMI 5619 hard drive in it. Joe

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Wicat computer?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I saw the recent discussions about these on this list but didn't read them since I'd never seen a Wicat computer and didn't know what one was. Well, today that changed. Can someone give me the run down on a wicat S-150A? Joe

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[MichaelDumas1@aol.com: VAX 4000-700 computer Center]

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Located in Memphis, TN - please contact him directly if interested. Bill ----- Forwarded message from MichaelDumas1(a)aol.com ----- From: MichaelDumas1(a)aol.com Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:16:00 EST Subject: VAX 4000-700 computer Center To: mrbill(a)decvax.org I have a complete computer center for sale and liquidation. The server is a Vax 4000/600 which I believe was upgraded to a 700 SCSI Card 128MB Winchester Flash Cluster 32 GB of storage Decserver 700 24 VT420 Terminals 2 Rack Cabinets (smoked glass) 1 UDS Modem Rack w/ 14 Modems and 2 Power supplies 2 remote WAN Muxes Datability VCP 1000 Xerox 9-track 6250 tape drive 2 DAT Units 1 600LPM Printer 4 Monarch Computer Center Cabinets (pull down steel doors) 4 metal tape stands lots of VAX manuals, parts and accessories Need to sell, deinstall, or give away. Any ideas? Michael Dumas (901)737-7009 ----- End forwarded message ----- -- bill bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net austin, texas

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Help with pricing on EPay

by cb＠mythtech.net

> One of my main beefs are the number of sellers in the US >who restrict the volume of bids by refusing to ship to >anywhere outside own their limited vision of the world. >Either thru fear of unknown extra efforts, (which for the >most part are minimal) or even ignoring the "will ship to" >section. I routinely respond to something I'm interested >in with "will you not ship to Canada" and the answer is >almost invariably yes. They simply did the default form. You'll be happy to know, that I check that I will ship to Canada. I've only done a few auctions, but those that I have done, I always say yes to Canada. Not to other places, but that is going to change... I have been limiting my ship to range only because I am new at auctions and want to get a feel for it before I have to start deailing with international shipping. But I've sent enough items to Canada in the past, that I'm comfortable with what's involved with it. > The problems with the commercial shippers like UPS is a >different number, and while it may work well in-country is >a disaster outside. This is my major problem with shipping outside the US (minus canada). I have heard horror stories about UPS and FedEx going to other countries. So when I am counting on using FedEx for delivery, I worry about what is going to be involved with getting the package to the person if they aren't in North America. So my line of thought has been... let me get the auction concept under my belt... then I'll work on the international shipping issues. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Y2K/Y10K for V5.03 of RT-11

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

I'm interested in what you propose, but suspect that Y10K would be overkill at this point. I'd like to see design discussion opened up for that... but it may all be moot since it wouldn't be compatible with V5.4, V5.5, V5.6, V5.7... ... and it is the sort of change which would truly affect everything in the system, requiring sources to rebuild the fixes... since no-one but Mentec has rights to the sources, the product of any such change would be strictly illegal, so I am wondering how you are proposing to get around that. Megan

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[for sale] IBM 5100 + IBM 5120

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> Is it possible to just put the unzipped files on your web server? I don't > like to download zips. Oh, I do. It goes really well with all the HTML markup that turns up here :-) cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Dec 3000/300 keyboard/mouse box

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

On Mon, 13 Jan 2003; Steven Nikkel <steven_nikkel(a)ertyu.org> scribbled: > I recovered a couple Dec 3000/300 machines at work, with keyboards > and mice and can't find any of the keyboard/mice break out boxes. > What do they look like? Or where can I find them inexpensively? First of all, a RANT: Why is it that when a company takes a machine out of service, the first thing they do is toss the cables. Over the years I have scrounged a few DECstations only to find that the video cables were nowhere to be found. I also managed to haul home several VXT2000 workstations but only one video cable amongst all of them. $&^%**&%% Anyway. It is not so much a breakout box as it is a (rather long) cable with a molded box on the end of it. The box contains the sockets for the keyboard and mouse. I put together some info a while back and I will just paste it to the end of this. Hope it helps, Mike Thompson P.S. I have to wonder, now that you know what you are looking for, if it might not be worth another search around work. DECstation 5000 keyboard/mouse cable and related info --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- --------------- The DECstation 5000 has a 15 pin (male) D connector on the back for keyboard and mouse connections. There is a cable that plugs into the 5000 connector and has a keyboard socket (RJ-11) and a mouse socket (7 pin mini-din) on the other end. The part number for the cable is 17-02640-01. A reader of a previous version of this has confirmed from the manual EK-PELCN-OG for the Dec 3000/300L AXP that the same cable is used on that series of machines. He also confirmed the following pinout information. For a keyboard, use a LK201, LK401, or LK402. For a mouse, use a VSXXX-AA (round hockey puck) or VSXXX-GA (rectangular). CABLE INFO The cable pinout (from the DECstation 5000/240 manual) is: Pin Signal Desc. 1 GND Ground (to keyboard socket) 2 KEY.TX Keyboard transmitted data 3 KEY.RX Keyboard received data 4 +12v Keyboard power 5 GND Ground 6 MSE.RX Mouse received data 7 MSE.TX Mouse transmitted data 8 GND Ground (to mouse socket) 9 GND Ground (to mouse socket) 10 NC 11 NC 12 NC 13 +5v Mouse power 14 -12v Mouse power 15 GND Ground (to mouse socket) I have also verified the above info with a VOM. KEYBOARD INFO As for the keyboard, I had a couple of them open a while back (to clean out the cookie crumbs) and traced them out somewhat. Looking into the end of the plug on the cable coming from the keyboard. |------------| | o o o o | | B R G Y | |___| |___| |____| B - Black - Data from keyboard R - Red - +12v to keyboard G - Green - Ground Y - Yellow - Data to keyboard And looking into the socket on the end of the 17-02640-01 cable: (also applies to the keyboard socket on a terminal such as a VT420) |------------| | o o o o | | Y G R B | |___| |___| |____| Pin Y to pin 3 of the 15 pin D connector on cable 17-02640-01 G to pin 1 ... R to pin 4 ... B to pin 2 ... I do not include pin numbers for the keyboard connector because I have found on-line references to some of this info and in some cases the pin numbers differ. Your mileage may vary. MOUSE INFO As for the mouse, you will find the pinouts below and the signals. Please note that the pin numbers may not be the official DEC numbers. Here again, I have seen on-line references to some of this info and the pin numbers differ. Looking into the plug coming from the mouse: 5 6 7 o o o 4 o === o 1 o o 3 2 1 - -12v 2 - Data to mouse 3 - Ground 4 - Data from mouse 5 - +5v 6 - nc 7 - nc And looking at the socket on a machine or end of the 17-02640-01 cable: 7 6 5 o o o 1 o === o 4 o o 2 3 Pin 1 to pin 14 of the 15 pin D connector on cable 17-02640-01 2 to pin 6 ... 3 to pins 8, 9, & 15 ... 4 to pin 7 ... 5 to pin 13 ... 6 nc 7 nc

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Xenix OS for early generation IBM PC

by cpg＠aladdin.de

On 01/14/2003 08:41:05 AM EST Ron Collison wrote: > >Anyone interested? I'm interested. regards, chris

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Macro Assembler for early generation PC

by collison＠cnri.reston.va.us

I found the tech ref manual in my collectibles, but will have to look for the software if anyone is interested?

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