- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by ceby2＠csc.com

Bill - The tape drives are Reel 2 Reel (of course) I've been thinking of keeping one of those for show, but if I get a taker for the system I'll have to leave that up to them. As to the 5363... are you sure you're not confusing that with the 5364. That really was a PC sized machine, and one I'm definitely after. It came bundled with an IBM PC (model 5560 I think) which acted as the console. The 5363 is nearly the size of the 5362. It looks like a first generation AS/400. They both use the 5 1/4" disks. As to keeping the 5360, well you're right about the 8" media being more common. But then, the 5362 takes the same media, and is about 1/10 the size. In fact it's just as powerful processor wise. The difference is a smaller card cage and smaller disk capacity. The 5360 I have has at least 4 of those 19" platter disks. The 5362 take up to 2 of the 14" variety. I have just the one in the 5362. And no-one's prying the '62 from my cold dead fingers. The biggest challenge I have with that is modifying the power supply when, as is the plan, I move over to the UK. It's wired for 110v only. The 5360 is strickly 220, and it may even be three phase. I don't honestly recall. On to the PC file copy utility: I'm afraid it's one of the feature sets I don't have media for. I do have an emulator card set up. Just to make it interesting, I'm using a MCA version plugged into an IBM PS/2 Model 70 Luggable running OS/2 (just wanted to tick off as many obscure IBM technology boxes as possible). No problem with the workstation connectivity (so long as the couplers joining the 4 pieces of phone cord from the study to the living room don't pull loose, he he). But without the feature set on the host, there's no copying capability. There's media going, but it's fetching a really good price (see my note about the e-Pay auction). -Colin ceby2(a)csc.com Senior Consultant National Performance Engineeering Practice CSC Consulting

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Miniscribe 3650

by echafe＠roadrunner.nf.net

Hi I need a Miniscribe 3650 hard drive or the logic board for one any suggestions would be appreciated Eric

23 years, 3 months

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Removing duct tape residue.

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

I've cleaned up permanent magic marker off white and beige plastic computer components with virtually 100% success with the following methods. Obviously first make sure the item is turned off / unplugged / cooled off / discharged / etc. I use 100% concentration denatured ethyl alcohol to remove as much of the marker markings as possible. It will take a lot off and leave the markings much fainter. Then I wet another paper towel with the alcohol and sprinkle ajax or comet cleanser on it and then scrub till it's off. This scrubbing mixture scrubs off tape's adhesive residue very well also. I use pure white cloth like paper towels, not printed, so the ink of printed paper towel's printing doesn't end up back on the item. If it's something that can be disassembled so that the plastic part can be put in a deep sink ( or bathtub ) , I do that with a dishwashing scrub brush first covered with straight dishwashing detergent and then heavily sprinkled with ajax or comet. It makes a thick paste at first and stays in place as you scrub. To get marker off painted metal, I use acetone. Use in well ventilated area ( outside? ) with no source of ignition anywhere near. It will take a little of the paint layer off, so don't rub in one spot too long. It may be changing the texture, but to me that's better than the marker markings. You might not want to do this to valuable "collectibles", but it was ok for what I was cleaning. At 05:06 AM 1/29/03 -0600, you wrote: >On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Jim Arnott wrote: > > > For cleaning computer plastics, the absolute best product I've found (in > > the US) is Hoppe's No. 9 Powder Solvent. Found at your local sporting > > goods store. Even removes PERMANENT Sharpie. > >Has anyone tried removing Sharpie from a chassis with textured paint? I >have a couple of items that were marked up with a Sharpie, and short of >paint thinner (which seems to dilute and bury the ink in the paint while >damaging the texture), I've found nothing that seems to work. > >-Toth

23 years, 3 months

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ADMIN: Demime is now active

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 22:32, Jeffrey Sharp wrote: > By popular demand, Jay and I have set up demime on the ClassicCmp server, > and all posts are being filtered through it. From here on out, all posts you > get from CC will be in plain text, with no attachments or HTML. Thank you! That's a great idea. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 3 months

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Looking for DEC parts

by antikgmbh＠compuserve.com

Hello, I found your e-mail address after searching for the DEC part# 21-15542-01 on the "googles" platform. We are a German independent distributor and looking for several DEC parts for our customer. May you can help ??? These are the parts we are looking for: 5 pcs. DEC 21-17311-01 or 21-17311-02 2 pcs. DEC 21-17312-00 or 21-17312-01 2 pcs. DEC 57-00001-01 2 pcs. DEC 57-00000-01 2 pcs. DEC 21-15542-01 Any luck for us ?? Thank you for a short notice. Best regards Erika Antik Elektronik-Vertriebs-GmbH Tel: +49 4191 89441 Fax: +49 4191 89337

23 years, 3 months

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sys 36 software

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

interesting list System Support Programs> got it Utilities RPG II > got it Cobol Mcode > got it Display Write 36 Display Write Language Dictionary Business Graphics Utility Personal Services 36 Query 36 PC Support 36 > got it Additional SSP> NEED IT Base Communications> got it 3270 Device Emulation> got it MSRJE> got it - what is it? Display Station Pass-Through> got it Tape Support> got it PTF's> heave a few of those wow nice list but no basic or diags - wierd - daigs came with every system - unless some paranoid sysop destroyed them when parting with the system. diags are NOT covered in the license agreement - they are part of the machine! btw - on a 5360 there is a plate covering a storage area above the circuit breaker on the rear right of the machine - undo four screws and see if the ibm ce left the diag diskettes in there ;) Bill Message: 35 Subject: Re: ibm sys/36 5360 basic needed From: "Colin Eby" <ceby2(a)csc.com> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 09:34:47 -0500 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Bill -- FYI, some 8" floppy based software just turned up on ePay. Item 2304666096. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2304666096&ssPageName=AD… They've got pretty much everything except what you were after. I've been bidding on it myself. In fact I've gone as far as a hundred bucks. If I'm bidding against anyone on the list maybe we can come to some co-purchase agreement before my media lust gets the better of my fiduciary responsibility. I already have quite a lot of it. System Support Programs Utilities RPG II Cobol Mcode Display Write 36 Display Write Language Dictionary Business Graphics Utility Personal Services 36 Query 36 PC Support 36 Additional SSP Base Communications 3270 Device Emulation MSRJE Display Station Pass-Through Tape Support PTF's - Colin Eby

23 years, 3 months

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FW: Are you interested in an old computer?

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Hi folks, Old Amstrad available for quite possibly nothing apart from shipping. Looks like it's the PC1512DD model since it doesn't have a hard drive. I haven't asked him if he'd consider shipping to the US, but if he's going to pack it up anyway the destination doesn't really matter :) Please contact the seller directly. witchy -----Original Message----- From: David Errock [mailto:david@errock.co.uk] Sent: 26 January 2003 20:41 To: witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk Subject: Are you interested in an old computer? Adrian, I have an Amstrad PC1512 computer (complete with original manual and Amstrad system disks in original plastic pack) with mono screen and two 5" floppy disk drives (the disk drives are not identical, even though they were both "factory fitted") in a clean condition. It still works. I do have the cardboard boxes, but no polystyrene, and the cardboard is not in a good state! Are you interested in this? It seems a shame to throw it in the bin even though it is useless. Regards, David Errock david(a)errock.co.uk

23 years, 3 months

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Seeking manual for the Jupiter 4000

by kurtk7＠visi.com

I hate to belabor the request, but I really need a manual to the Jupiter 4000. Does anyone have any suggestions, I would really appreciate any help in locating a copy. Thanks Kurt

23 years, 3 months

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XT-IDE drive lot spotted on eBay

by red＠bears.org

Normally I don't do this, but it's in a strange category and I know some folks here have been looking hard for these type of drives in the past. 12 Seagate RARE Hard Drives ST-325X 25MB NEW http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2304712236&category=11209 Ends 3 Feb 10:18a PST Good luck! ok r.

23 years, 3 months

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IBM Power Server 590 components available

by anheier＠owt.com

I have the following from an IBM Power server 590 available for trade. IBM DAT (or some sort of tape drive) SCSI model EXB-8200 IBM 4x cdrom drive p/n 88G4917 SCSI MCA (I think) cards IBM SCSI2 port card FRU11H3600 IBM FDDI extender p/n 31g9395 3Com ethernet bus master adapter p/n oog3368 IBM SCSI I/O controller FRU 31g9729 IBM FDDI Main, p/n 31g9393 Thanks Norm

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PDP 11/23 Blueprints available

by anheier＠owt.com

I have a DEC PDP 11/23 Field Maintenance Print set (series FPF11-0) for a 11/23 floating point processor dated 1980-81., This is printed on approximately 60 11*17" pages. This would be very useful for someone trying to maintain a PDP 11/23. I am interested in trading for old CPU processor chips that I am collecting. Thanks Norm

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WANTED: VAX 11/750 Front/Side Panels

by jwillis＠manson.vistech.net

Wanted: VAX 11/750 chassis panels: * Front door * Outer left side panel * Back door * Back I/O cover panel Hoping to get these from an otherwise gutted or non-functional system. They will soon be all that remains to complete my 11/750. Thanks, John W. The VAXpirate

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non-profit

by dante_toza＠yahoo.com

I saw your comment and question. i have done quite a bit of research. i'd thought this might be helpful to you. http://members.aol.com/irsform1023/misc/comp501s.html --------------------------------- With Yahoo! Mail you can get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your needs

23 years, 3 months

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Neat find: Maxx Steele Robot

by keeblernsam＠zippytech.com

hello i was checking out your page and comments on you buying a maxx a few years ago ,just to let you know im a collecter and was wandering do you still have your maxx steele email me we will talk thanks. GUY keeblernsam(a)zippytech.com

23 years, 3 months

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GRiDCase 3 Battery Question.

by netsurfer_x1＠fastmailbox.net

Does anybody know the part or catalog no. for a battery for a GRiDCase 3 Laptop battery? I just this week got one of these old gems, & would just love to use it on the road. By the way, anybody know where I can find a GRiD-OS ROM for this thing? -- David Vohs netsurfer_x1(a)fastmailbox.net -- http://fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own

23 years, 3 months

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Wanted, book: "Practical Microprocessors"

by ssj152＠charter.net

I'm looking for a book for my HP 5036A microprocessor lab, "Practical Microprocessors" textbook (H.P. part no. 05036-90003). If anyone has a source for one of these, please contact me off list. I already have a source for one for $100 US and can't afford it... Thanks, Stuart Johnson

23 years, 3 months

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FA:HP-9805, Programmer's Panel, Teletype manuals & tool

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

FYI: I just threw some stuff on E-bay including a HP 9805 Statistics calculator, two volumes of model 33 Teletype manuals, a Teletype tool, a programmer's panel and an Apple computer Module ID book. The auctions are for 5 days only so don't delay. I will be adding more tomorrow. Joe

23 years, 3 months

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cctalk digest, Vol 1 #417 - 31 msgs

by sml49＠attbi.com

> Message: 22 > Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 14:29:24 +0000 (GMT) > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jules=20Richardson?= > <julesrichardsonuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: slightly newer Apple stuff... > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > hi all, > > I've just found someone local who's dumping a few Apple bits and pieces - a > Macintosh 2, LC3 and a Performa 400, plus a couple of monitors and > stylewriters. I said yes to them as I just fancy playing around with a bit of > Apple stuff. They all work apparently but I don't know what cables etc. they > have with them. > > Can anyone tell me anything about them or point me to any good Apple websites > that will? Not sure if they make the ten year mark or not (pretty certain at > least the performa won't!) so sorry for the bandwidth... THE source on the web for the lowdown on any of these old Macs is <<lowendmac.com>> The Mac II (2) is a 16 mhz machine with a Motorola 68020 processor and was the first color-capable Mac. The LCIII (3) runs a 16 or 25 mhz 68LC040 (no FPU as part of the CPU); I don't recall what the Performa 400 contains. The difference between the Performa and "standard" versions of some of these older machines has more to do with how they were sold and what software was bundled (sometimes a slightly different version of the OS, too) but otherwise not much. All have internal SCSI drives. The Mac II has a port for a second (external) floppy. These machines can run up to MacOS 7.6.1 but are quicker and more at home with 7.5.3 or even 6.0.8, which is quite speedy on even machines as slow as these. Do you plan to display them, actually use 'em or what? I have a slew of parts and old drives and whatnot for these machines - the drive's usually what goes on them. By the way: check the motherboard battery to make sure it's live (3.6v lithium). They'll boot w/o a live battery but will lose their time and certain other settings. Seth Lewin

23 years, 3 months

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Back in the game

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

After a *very* brief unemployment, I started at a new job today - as an OpenVMS Administrator, if you can believe it. One of the more surprising moments during the interview process was when I was mentioning that I had a VAX 8200 and a DEC 4000 in my basement, and the boss said, "of course you do - all you VMS guys run that stuff at home." I've gotten lots of milage from running older/smaller version of Sun/DEC/etc boxes, but I'd never run across someone in an interview who *expected* it. Now back to the side of the table with money, but no time... -ethan

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'386 chip upgrade?

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Upgrade for IBM P70 luggable? Actually why not use a P75 which is the 486 model of the P70, I have a couple of both. One is missing the keyboard and the back but the SCSI disk and internals are there. Mike

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slightly newer Apple stuff...

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

hi all, I've just found someone local who's dumping a few Apple bits and pieces - a Macintosh 2, LC3 and a Performa 400, plus a couple of monitors and stylewriters. I said yes to them as I just fancy playing around with a bit of Apple stuff. They all work apparently but I don't know what cables etc. they have with them. Can anyone tell me anything about them or point me to any good Apple websites that will? Not sure if they make the ten year mark or not (pretty certain at least the performa won't!) so sorry for the bandwidth... I've got a few II's and a /// with a couple of profiles, and used LC's before but otherwise my apple knowledge is non-existant. I don't really have the space for them so they'll probably be up for grabs in a few weeks time... :-) cheers Jules Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

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Model 100 DVI drive

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: Does anyone know if the specs on the Model 100 Disk-Video Interface is the same as the CoCo disks? I have a single-drive DVI and a single low-profile CoCo disk drive. They physically look to be the same but I wanted to be sure before I lashed them together. Thanks. Rich ========================== Richard A. Cini, Jr. First Vice President Congress Financial Corporation 1133 Avenue of the Americas 30th Floor New York, NY 10036 (212) 545-4402 (212) 840-6259 (facsimile)

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Pinout for HP 2629b terminal?

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Frank McConnell wrote: > > Hmmm... htis one is not color, but there are a number of odd 'arrow' keys > > on the keyboard that might suggest scanning about a larger than displayed > > buffer... > > One of these would probably have arrow keys for moving the cursor, in > the block up top with the function keys: arrows pointing up, down, > left, right, and up/left meaning "top of buffer". These move the > cursor on the screen. Shift modifies them: I think up, down, left, > and right become "scroll thataway" where the cursor stays put and the > window into the buffer moves; and shift+up/left is "bottom of buffer". Well... eight 'arrow' keys (I think, I'm not in front of it at the moment) with the 'usual' up, down, left, right... then diagonal (???) keys, and some have the legend 'roll' on them as well... > There would also be "NEXT PAGE" and "PREV PAGE" keys that let you > page through the buffer. Hmmm... I'll look, but don't reall these... > If it's a graphics terminal (and has its original keyboard), the > numeric pad off to the right has additional legends for its > manipulations of the graphics cursor. I think it has its proper keyboard, but it has no numeric pad. Did note an alternate numeric set in the alpha keys similar to some keypunch machines... > > Any enlightenment you can provide will be greatly appreciated! > > I tried trawling my inventory database for the manual, but no luck. > But I'll keep my eyes open as I dig through boxes. Cool... Thanks; -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw

23 years, 3 months

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OT: Location

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

I may be new to the list, but my location's always been there. Cheers! :) Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "Francois" > <francois(a)auradon.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 12:24 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: OT: Location > > Hi all, > Sorry for the OT post but I think it is worth noting since it relates to > the > list. > I seen a few post where people add their location after their name in the > signature, I think this is way cool and give a perspective on the > globalization of the list. > I would like to strongly encourage everybody on theis list to do the same > and add your location. > Thank you for your attention > Francois > Minnesota USA > >

23 years, 3 months

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Removing Duct Tape Residue

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Goo Gone is good. Be careful with Goof Off, as it is a paint remover (with petroleum-based solvents). It can disolve some plastics. Peanut butter (creamy :) ) or vegetable oil will often work to remove fresh adhesive residue. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Wood [mailto:dbwood@kc.rr.com] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 10:33 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Removing Duct Tape Residue Try "Goo Gone" or "Goof Off". <snip>

23 years, 3 months

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slightly newer Apple stuff...

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Can anyone tell me anything about them or point me to any good Apple websites >that will? Not sure if they make the ten year mark or not (pretty certain at >least the performa won't!) so sorry for the bandwidth... This is Apple's spec page for older Macs. <http://www.info.apple.com/support/applespec.legacy/index.html> -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 3 months

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ibm sys/36 5360 basic needed

by ceby2＠csc.com

Bill -- FYI, some 8" floppy based software just turned up on ePay. Item 2304666096. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2304666096&ssPageName=AD… They've got pretty much everything except what you were after. I've been bidding on it myself. In fact I've gone as far as a hundred bucks. If I'm bidding against anyone on the list maybe we can come to some co-purchase agreement before my media lust gets the better of my fiduciary responsibility. I already have quite a lot of it. System Support Programs Utilities RPG II Cobol Mcode Display Write 36 Display Write Language Dictionary Business Graphics Utility Personal Services 36 Query 36 PC Support 36 Additional SSP Base Communications 3270 Device Emulation MSRJE Display Station Pass-Through Tape Support PTF's - Colin Eby ceby2(a)csc.com Senior Consultant, National Performance Engineeering Practice CSC Consulting.

23 years, 3 months

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Tamper proof tools

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 28, 0:30, Tothwolf wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Sue & Francois wrote: > > > Thank you for the answer, > > I have that set and unfortunately there is no bit that fits those weird > > screws. It looks like a hex nut driver would work on those star shaped > > screws but I can't find my set at the moment. I'm still looking for the > > proper tool though > > I believe what you are looking for is called an 'External linehead' bit. > Linehead fasteners, are extremely popular in Japan, but US made and > imported tools are available. Another good place to see drawings of screw head types is http://www.lara.com/reviews/screwtypes.htm -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 3 months

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'386 chip upgrade?

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

I've got an old P70 (IBM MCA luggable w/ plasma display) with a '386DX20 that I'm playing around with. Does anyone know if there's a drop-in replacement for the '386DX? I'm pretty constrained space-wise, no room for an interposer and barely room for a heatsink should one prove necessary. I'm not aiming for a fire-breathing monster, just more geek points when I boot AIX-PS/2 and Solaris-mca 2.6 on it. Thanks! Bob

23 years, 3 months

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first photo's

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> Well.. I loaded up yer URLs - and 5 minutes later, when about 1/3 of the > first eleventy-bazillon byte .jpg had drizzled into my browser, I > abandoned it. ha ha - yeah, they were a bit big. Glad this browser's got a zoom feature. seems to be a common mistake people make when they first get a digital camera - I've seen a similar thing with scanners, where people insist on scanning a whole A4 page and sending that around for the sake of the tiny photo up in one corner. You learn by experience though I guess, and as someone else said it's nice to have the big images but some sort of warning and smaller thumbnail versions would have been nice. cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

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Back in the game

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 27, 22:23, Ethan Dicks wrote: > After a *very* brief unemployment, I started at a new job today - as an > OpenVMS Administrator Congratulations! > Now back to the side of the table with money, but no time... :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 3 months

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5110 trade update (last one)

by fauradon＠frontiernet.net

Hi all, By now I have sent all interested parties a final email requesting confirmation of their earlier offer, if you were interested and have not received an email from me, please sen me one quick because I'll be closing the shop soon (figuratively) Thank you for your attention Francois Minnesota

23 years, 3 months

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Need ECU for Everex Step Megacube

by red＠bears.org

Hi, guys. I picked up an Everex Step Megacube yesterday, and fulfilled a 10-year-old, forgotten lust. I wanted one of these REALLY BADLY when they were new. Anyway, I need the ECU (EISA configuration utility) for this guy, or at the very least the .CFG for the motherboard. If somebody has it and could email me a copy (pkzip or somesuch is fine) I would be eternally grateful. Thanks! ok r.

23 years, 3 months

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Spectrum Holobyte Tetris

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

I thought I'd never hear that company's name again. I've been looking feverishly, for about 3 years, for a copy of Spectrum Holobyte's "Blockout!" The base game is a series of walls the player needs to take down by grouping 3 or more like blocks or symbols. It also contains bombs, missiles, and other cute destructive devices. It was a simple game, made to run in DOS, and I'd (or my wife would!) just about die for a copy of it. Ours died when my DOS-based BBS fried back in '97... Cheers... Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of David > Holland <dholland(a)woh.rr.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 9:33 AM > To: Classic Computer Talk > Subject: Re: Spectrum Holobyte Tetris > > Now, I don't have a copy of Spectrum Holobyte's Tetris lying around > here, but I don't recall hearing any mention of it having noteworthy > contents. > >

23 years, 3 months

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System/36 whining and begging...

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

Another and perhaps the simplest way to archive sys34 or 36 pgms to diskette or cd is to use the 5250 pc emulator card or a clone card and the pc support pgms on the pc and sys/36. the emulator turns a pc xt or at into a 5251 terminal and does the ebcdic/ascii conversion for pc to 36 printer files. there are many different versions of the emulator cards still out there some will even run in windows. i even saw a pcmcia version for a laptop. you can save disk or diskette - library's,files and members on the pc from the 36 then transfer the diskette to a windows machine if needed and put it on cd. useing the same process one could even send a copy of sys/36 pgms via email. the labels and owner id must match the pgm distrubition diskettes label if copying a 8 diskette. then a person could do the reverse to get the files back on the 36. i have the emulator card but have not played with the copy to pc feature yet i got all this info from the pc support 36 manual. i am not sure how much the ibm standards differ from the shugart or other standards. ibm had the 1d and 2d diskettes and both had a low and hi density format (format 1 or 2). do keep us posted about which process you end up useing as i want to archive all of my fresh 8 in copies also. i hope the non ascii data of sys3x data (ebcdic) dosn't go down to the binary level. Bill Message: 17 Subject: System/36 whining and begging... To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org From: "Colin Eby" <ceby2(a)csc.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:44:09 -0500 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Folks -- Thought I'd continue my unreasonable begging from the previous note back to Bill. I'd like to take on a little project of creating archival images of S/36 media. I've made a duplicate of most of what I own on fresher 8" stock. But I don't think that's a long term strategy for avoiding the inevitable ravages of media corruption. What I had in mind was something like a 'dd' dump of each disk that could be reloaded to fresh 8" media when required. I haven't given this too much thought so bear with me.... I'm working on a list of questions and puzzles to accomplish this goal.The first obvious problem is media to hardware integration. If memory serves, I read somewhere that IBM used an oddball disk format (Sellam, you might know this). 8" Shuggart drives come on the market from time to time but, would they, using low level drivers, be able to make a physical block by block copy of IBM S/36 disk data? The second problem is hardware to hardware integration. Has anyone had luck integrating a 8" drive with a more recent machine? And what are the alternatives? I presume this could be done on DEC hardware and then sent to any open platform over a network connection. Has anyone gotten an 8" floppy operating under an Intel based Linux host. That would seem the obvious media transfer station because of the wide range of hardware compatibility. Once these first two steps are done, any basic disk utility ought to make short work of creating binary dumps. An alternative approach might be to copy the disks directly on the System/36 host using platform native tools then sending the file across some form of network connection. The problem is I haven't a clue how that would need to be done. I've never read any low level API for S/36 as a platform. IBM seems to have kept anything harware layer proprietary. Any and all thoughts welcome. Thanks, -Colin ceby2(a)csc.com Senior Consultant, National Performance Engineeering Practice CSC Consulting.

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ibm sys/36 5360 basic needed

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

Ive always wondered about the 5363 the pc size'd 36. the pc support manual does mention it. the models are 5360 - large sys/36, 5362 - small sys/36, 5551 small model available only in japan and the 5363 pc sized sys/36. the pc support calls the 5363 a "system console". as far a spp is concerned, the 5363 uses 5 1/4 diskettes and the ssp on it is for the 5363 only. i'm not sure about the 8 in versions of 36 ssp. sorry i have no 5 1/4 in ssp diskettes. i don't think the 8 in, 5360 languages or office products pgms will even work with the 5363, they will run on the 5362. i have the same 5360 unit that you have - do you have the service manuals for it? you may want to hang on to the 5360 - you can do more with it and the 8 in diskettes are more commom to find. btw - do a search for 5363 or sys/36 and you should find a page that features a 5363 on it you may want to email him about the diskettes. are the tape drives on your 5360 the r2r or cart drives? Bill Message: 14 Subject: Re: ibm sys/36 5360 basic needed To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org From: "Colin Eby" <ceby2(a)csc.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 13:25:51 -0500 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Bill -- I have most of the System/36 stuff... except the languages, sigh. You wouldn't happen to have any of the SSP on 5.25" would you. I have a 5363 I've never successfully IPL'd . And while I'm turning your request for assistance on its head... you wouldn't happen to want a 5360 would you? I have one in need of a good home. I don't even have a garage so I'm paying storage for the beast (2 tape drives, 2 printers, expanded main cabinet with additional disk platters and the magazine version of the 8" floppy). Maybe I can be more helpful if you have other S/36 needs in future. I have a lot of the books and even a few already scanned to PDF. While I'm begging, I don't suppose anyone out there has the Office suite for S/36, or any interesting applications? Or maybe someone wants to be free of a 5364 (a little easier on the electric bills than the 63, 62 or 60). My systems only have SSP, and I have a perverse desire to get some use out of them. -Colin

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How many PDP-12's are there now?

by root＠parse.com

So... all this discussion about PDP-12's has got me curious. How many of them are there in existence? It would certainly be interesting to get a list of machines and at least city locations -- I'll start the list: Ottawa/ON/Canada (mine) Roswell/GA/USA If anyone wants to send me info, I'll volunteer to collect and put it up on my website (I won't put email addresses or other incriminating evidence unless you want me to :-)). The other interesting thing that this discussion begs is the topic of (borrowed term) "biomagnification". It's from the environmental field, and basically relates to how bigger animals get more than their "fair" share of poisons because they eat smaller animals which have already concentrated the poisons in their systems. I've borrowed the term because lately what I've been thinking about is the accumulated collections of people who are no longer interested in collecting -- in this case, instead of just getting one or two machines at a time, you tend to get "clusters" of machines -- hence "biomagnification" :-) So... any collectors out there getting rid of PDP stuff? :-) Cheers, -RK -- Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers! Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316. Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com

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Free PDP-11

by root＠parse.com

Saw this on the newsgroups; in case anyone missed it: > Steve Cayford <steve_cayford(a)unioncab.com> at TDS.NET Internet Services www.tds.net > > Newsgroups: uwisc.forsale,wi.madison.forsale > > Hi. We've got a PDP-11/23 Plus to get rid of. It's free to whoever would > like to come pick it up at Union Cab in Madison. > > Contact me by e-mail if you're interested. Cheers, -RK -- Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers! Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316. Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com

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Taper proof tools.

by fauradon＠frontiernet.net

Hi all, I am looking for one of those tamper proof tool for the sega nomad. It is basically the same shape as the screws for the game cartridges on the genesis but it is so far recessed (3/4 in) that the pliers trick will not work. Anyone know of a source for such tool? Thank you Francois

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Casio CFX-200

by rojas_gonzalo＠hotmail.com

Hi: I have a perfectly functional (and I am using all days) Casio CFX-200 Scientific Calculator Watch... But, I am having a problem with it: due to the use of the clock, the lateral buttons was deteriorated and they have sharp borders... And that sharp buttons damage the cuff of my shirts... The local Casio Technical Support (Santiago, Chile) tolds me that it isn't exist replacement for the buttons... Do you know where can I get replacement buttons for my CFX-200 ?... or a replacement case ?... or how I can fix them ?... Best regards, and thanks in advance... Gonzalo Rojas _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Odd posting order on cctech

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

> From: ombra.nl(a)planet.nl [mailto:ombra.nl@planet.nl] > > Same problem here & I'm in the Hague using adsl with planet. The > funny order I can understand with different time zones but why 85 all > at once? Sometimes the original post comes long after all the > replies. Mostly they all arrive in my evening but not always. Same here, mostly between 10pm - 07am Amsterdam time... --f

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PDP-8: anyone tried NVRAM simulation of hard drives?

by c.morris＠townsqr.com

Has anyone had interfaced nonvolatile RAM to a PDP-8 to simulate an original hard drive? The DF32 fully expanded with four disks was only 256k x 12... Dallas Semi makes battery-backed NVRAM in a variety of sizes. Two DS1258 (each 128k x 16) would make for a very simple interface that would fit on a single card (or at most a double card). Packing the 12-bit words would complicate the interface a little but lower the cost of the NVRAMs. Using an old 3.5 or 5.25 inch hard drive would be very cheap per meg but would also require development of a controller (like the 8051 mentioned recently as an interface to an HP computer). I don't think there were any original drives greater than 1 Mword available, so larger ones would require nonstandard code to support them anyway. Any thoughts? -Charles

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Test post, please ignore

by jss＠subatomix.com

Testing a feature. Please ignore. -- Jeffrey Sharp [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/msword which had a name of MarketDataDeveloper.doc]

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Seeking LaserJet IIISi I/O card

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi I've seen these come up about once every month or so in eBay. I bought a duplexer for my 3si and an envelope feeder, on eBay. You just need to keep a search going, every few days. I'm sure you'll find one. I'd originally bought a parallel/serial card when I bought mine, surplus, because of the same problem. At the time, I bought it from a printer repair store. It cost almost $200. Later ( about 2 years ) the card failed. I located one on eBay for about $25, I was back on the air. Dwight >From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> > > >I have asked in the past about a replacement card for my HP LJ-IIID >with little success (they are apparently somewhat rare). Several >people offered me ones that did not physically fit. Well now, I >have a *newer* old HP printer, an HP LJ-IIISi that takes the square >interface cards with the white/grey 3-row connector. Unfortunately, >the printer I got from OSU surplus (which seems to print just fine) >only has this truely ancient C2059A integral print server - no serial >or parallel, Novell only. :-( Worse, the firmware is particularly >obsolete and deprecated by HP. > >So... if anyone has a spare interface card, I'm interested. Two, in >fact; one for me and one for a friend who needs to hook another IIISi >to his OS X Mac. The printer is on-topic (mine was manufactured in 1991) >at least. > >Let me know cost/part numbers/etc off-list. > >Thanks, > >-ethan

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Odd posting order on cctech

by ombra.nl＠planet.nl

Same problem here & I'm in the Hague using adsl with planet. The funny order I can understand with different time zones but why 85 all at once? Sometimes the original post comes long after all the replies. Mostly they all arrive in my evening but not always. M.R. Hoare

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TIL306 displays

by p.dalliessi＠paradise.net.nz

Hello Toth. I saw your reference to TIL displays at another site, and you indicated you may have some. Actually I am lookig for 4 pces TIL306 and 5 pces TIL308 displays. Would you be able to help please? Thank you in anticipation. Peter J. Dalliessi. New Zealand.

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Ebay: Mark 1 Computer Cards

by marvin＠rain.org

The pictures didn't load for me right now, but if these truely are the Mark 1 cards, it sounds like a neat collection! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2303799002&category=1247

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Bernoulli

by sml49＠attbi.com

Evan R. Pauley wrote: > >> Seth/all, >> >> Actually, he could be looking at a 20MB drive. Iomega produced a dual 20MB >> box called the Bernoulli Box II, which had two 5-1/4" 20 meg drives side by >> > This is the 5-1/4 unit (side by side) apparently with 20MB drives. > The 90meg 5-1/4 cartridges fit in it, but I doubt that they would > work correctly. Also 20meg is quite small any more. Well, I'll > hang onto it until I find some media to go with it, or someone who > needs it. Now that I think about it, the 90 I once used was a single-bay unit. Worked well and didn't seem to mind being knocked around. Worked fine on all Mac SCSI ports w/o difficulty so perhaps it'd do as well on older PC-centric SCSI cards. Seth

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Can a TU81+ be connected to a TU80 controller?

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Yea, the TU80 is Pertec, I know since I own 2 of them... So I can't imagine they're compatible at all.. Don't think they are even the same family of CDC drives... Will J _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Ebay: Mark 1 Computer Cards

by fmc＠reanimators.org

John Lawson <jpl15(a)panix.com> wrote: > Even though his picture links were still broken when I checked it out - > from the description text, it is *highly* doubtful that Linksys would be > re-using Harvard Mark I relay cards (555 pounds of them) in it's mid-60s > Boeing 727 Simulator - trainer. Poking round the web last week gave me the idea that these could be >from a General Precision GP-4, a computer whose legacy on the web seems to be that it was used in Singer-Link cockpit simulators. -Frank McConnell

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Possibly OT: Z80/CP/M programming

by acme＠ao.net

Greetings -- I have a small program (about 3K lines of C) which I want to rewrite in Z80 assembly language in order to reduce the code size. The target system is a Kaypro 10, 64KB RAM, CP/M 2.2. In its C incarnation, the program *will* run but frequently runs out of system memory. The program is designed around multiple dynamically allocated linked lists which expand and contract as the (interactive) program is used. I've done little Z80 assembly programming (a number of small utilities, all of which were < 500 lines of code) but I've already written and tested *almost* all the low-level functions (console, file, & printer i/o) which the program requires. Except . . . how do I dynamically allocate memory? I don't see a CP/M function call to allocate or free memory. Does such a function exist, and if so, what are the details? Lacking such a CP/M function, how do I write replacements for malloc() and free()? It has to be possible or the calls would not exist in the library of the compiler I used to build the C program. TIA for any hints -- Glen 0/0

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Odd posting order on cctech

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Happens on cctalk a lot, too.. strange order, bursty (nothing for 5 hours, and then BOOM - 30 postings at once). --f

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Bernoulli

by sml49＠attbi.com

> Message: 16 > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 11:05:11 -0700 > From: Kevin Handy <kth(a)srv.net> > To: cctalk <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: Bernoulli Dual 20Z > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > I found a Bernoulli Dual 20Z drive in a thrift shop. > Does anyone know anything about it? > > It has a SCSI interface on it, but I don't even know > what capacity of disks it can handle, and where can > I find software to drive it. > > They has some "90" disks there too, which do fit > into the drive, but I'd like more info on it than that The one Bernoulli I once owned used 90mb cartridges, which is probably what you're looking at, Kevin. Bernoullis were more or less predecessors of Zip drives, technologically speaking. I may have a Mac SCSI driver around here somewhere for these things or you might try the Iomega website. SML

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first photo's

by allain＠panix.com

I noticed that the original poster has already made multiple resolution versions of his pics. Change the LG to SM for thumbnail, and to MD for "normal" web resolution. EG: http://vic.dyndns.org/pics/2003-01-25/MD-2003-01-25-033.jpg s/LG/MD/ as I should have John A. Mike wrote: > The first photo's of my basement have made it to the web. > http://vic.dyndns.org/pics/2003-01-25/LG-2003-01-25-032.jpg > http://vic.dyndns.org/pics/2003-01-25/LG-2003-01-25-033.jpg

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'386 chip upgrade?

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

AMD made a 486 "SLC" chip that might probably do the trick... Originally, it was designed as a Laptop CPU, But I was able to use it in a baby-AT form factor to rum my BBS... :) Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org@PEUSA On Behalf Of "Robert F. > Schaefer" <rschaefe(a)gcfn.org> > Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 8:13 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: '386 chip upgrade? > > I've got an old P70 (IBM MCA luggable w/ plasma display) with a '386DX20 > that I'm playing around with. Does anyone know if there's a drop-in > replacement for the '386DX? I'm pretty constrained space-wise, no room > for > an interposer and barely room for a heatsink should one prove necessary. > I'm not aiming for a fire-breathing monster, just more geek points when I > boot AIX-PS/2 and Solaris-mca 2.6 on it. > > Thanks! > > Bob >

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Inland ProBackup 500 sought (pinouts or software)

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

You know the brand name of the UPS: There's likely freebie software out there on one of the .dll catalogue pages, if you know the make/model/series names/numbers. Also, you might heck with C|Net (Download.com), ZDnet, or similar pages. If they don't have it, they can likely point you in the right direction... Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, TX; USA Phone (210) 592-3110, Fax (210) 592-2048 edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> > > >From a previous life, I have a perfectly fine working UPS. > ... > > Would anyone happen to have windows software for it? As a last resort, > how > > standard is the DB9 pinout (IF I can find the pinout, no luck there > > either)... I'm wondering if I can use just about any UPS software for > it. > > http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Inland ProBackup 500 sought (pinouts or software)

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Message: 23 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 20:32:22 GMT From: pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > >From a previous life, I have a perfectly fine working UPS. ... > Would anyone happen to have windows software for it? As a last resort, how > standard is the DB9 pinout (IF I can find the pinout, no luck there > either)... I'm wondering if I can use just about any UPS software for it. I guess you can get a meter on the various port pins and simulate various failure modes to work out which pins signify what - if the UPS is non-intelligent and just uses various serial port pins to signify conditions. If the UPS forms some sort of protocol with the host you have a bit of a problem! I seem to remember setting up a linux box with an unknown UPS years ago, and doing just that, but of course getting a UPS to work with Linux is probably a little easier than Windows as you don't need any custom software. I expect if you can figure the UPS port out and find out what the UPS software (whichever you choose) on Windows needs then you can wire up a cable and everything should work fine. have a look at: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/UPS-HOWTO.html that says that a lot of intelligent UPSes can be operated in dumb mode, and also gives specs for a few units. Probably worth a read even though it's for Linux. cheers Jules __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Can a TU81+ be connected to a TU80 controller?

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Kees Stravers <kees.stravers(a)iae.nl> wrote: > I know the TU81+ is supposed to be connected to a KLESI > controller. But can a TU81+ be connected to the TU80 controller (only doing > 1600 then of course)? I thought that TU80 had a Pertec formatted interface while TU81 (plus or not) had LESI interface, i.e., two totally different interfaces. They are both CDC Keystone tape transports and I think it's one board inside that provides the interface and thus differs. But if you want to try swapping CDC Keystone logic boards, you are on your own. MS

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test - I think I fixed why my email address displayed instead of my name...

by ssj152＠charter.net

I used to use this email account for another purpose. I had this email account set for the "name" field to be "ssj152", in a misguided attempt to maintain SOME privacy. I changed the name field back to "Stuart Johnson" and posted this message to see if it comes out correctly. Sorry for any confusion or "breach of etiquette" before. Stuart Johnson

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System/36 whining and begging...

by ceby2＠csc.com

Folks -- Thought I'd continue my unreasonable begging from the previous note back to Bill. I'd like to take on a little project of creating archival images of S/36 media. I've made a duplicate of most of what I own on fresher 8" stock. But I don't think that's a long term strategy for avoiding the inevitable ravages of media corruption. What I had in mind was something like a 'dd' dump of each disk that could be reloaded to fresh 8" media when required. I haven't given this too much thought so bear with me.... I'm working on a list of questions and puzzles to accomplish this goal.The first obvious problem is media to hardware integration. If memory serves, I read somewhere that IBM used an oddball disk format (Sellam, you might know this). 8" Shuggart drives come on the market from time to time but, would they, using low level drivers, be able to make a physical block by block copy of IBM S/36 disk data? The second problem is hardware to hardware integration. Has anyone had luck integrating a 8" drive with a more recent machine? And what are the alternatives? I presume this could be done on DEC hardware and then sent to any open platform over a network connection. Has anyone gotten an 8" floppy operating under an Intel based Linux host. That would seem the obvious media transfer station because of the wide range of hardware compatibility. Once these first two steps are done, any basic disk utility ought to make short work of creating binary dumps. An alternative approach might be to copy the disks directly on the System/36 host using platform native tools then sending the file across some form of network connection. The problem is I haven't a clue how that would need to be done. I've never read any low level API for S/36 as a platform. IBM seems to have kept anything harware layer proprietary. Any and all thoughts welcome. Thanks, -Colin ceby2(a)csc.com Senior Consultant, National Performance Engineeering Practice CSC Consulting.

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Wanted: 1971,2 IBM 3670 Brokerage Communications System

by jimkeo＠multi-platforms.com

Interested in documentation, user guides, programmer manuals, brochures, advertisements, etc. If someone actually has one or more of the hardware components that would be very interesting. IBM announced it in 1971 with a big sale to Merrill Lynch that may never have been fully completed. Thanks in advance, - Jim Jim Keohane, Multi-Platforms, Inc. "It's not whether you win or lose. It's whether you win!"

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Wanted: 1971,2 IBM 3670 Brokerage Communications System

by jimkeo＠multi-platforms.com

Interested in documentation, user guides, programmer manuals, brochures, advertisements, etc. If someone actually has one or more of the hardware components that would be very interesting. IBM announced it in 1971 with a big sale to Merrill Lynch that may never have been fully completed. Thanks in advance, - Jim Jim Keohane, Multi-Platforms, Inc. "It's not whether you win or lose. It's whether you win!"

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Xilinx purge this time

by aw288＠osfn.org

Thanks for all that asked for EPROMs - I think I could help about half of you guys out. I still have *lots* more, but not many oddballs. Anyway, I have a small pile of FPGAs - (6) Xilinx XC2018-70PC68C and (1) Xilinx XC3042-70PC84C. Pulls, PLCCs, good leads. Anyone need this pile for $6.00 - and that includes shipping ConUS! And yes, I take Paypal. I also have buckets of old Lattice GALs, if anyone wants them cheap, to erase and reuse. William Donzelli aw288(a)osfn.org

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eBay: HP 2100 Gear (Expensive)

by jss＠subatomix.com

Here are some auctions to watch if you like HP stuff. I don't know much about HP minis, but the prices strike me as a bit too high. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2303485590 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2303485590 -- Jeffrey Sharp

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HP1000's

by avickers＠solutionengineers.com

Wow, what a day... Today (erm, well, yesterday now), I have collected 2x HP1000 machines (c/w 4 free-standing disks & 1 line printer), one 700 (can't remember if that's a HP1000 model or not), and a whole stack of tapes & disc packs & documentation. Woohoo! Thanks Tim! Sadly, we weren't able to save a 3rd HP1000, as the van was already showing serious signs of being overloaded with the gear that was in there - backing into my shed, it was actually running over its own mudflaps... I forgot my digicam, so there's no pics yet. Hopefully, when I'm up north next I'll take a few snaps (and try to get at least one of the boxes booted). And now, I'm officially knackered, g'night! -- Cheers, Ade. Be where it's at, B-Racing! http://b-racing.com

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first photo's

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Mike, Long time since I've seen a NeXT like that! (my first puter in the US was one, called Boris :) --f

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Little old Apple computer

by ssj152＠charter.net

>----- Original Message ----- >Hello, > >Hey, my aunt and uncle were given a little old apple computer and I don't think they use it at >all. I don't know what model it is, but I know it's ancient. It has a little tiny monitor >with a green display. I think the brains of the computer are inside the keyboard........like >the old Commadore 64s. The disk drive might be inside the keyboard as well. I only looked at >it once and I wasn't really trying to find out what kind of computer it was so I don't know >much about it yet. > >If this computer sounds like it might be worth something to someone out there, let me know and >I can find out more about it. My aunt and uncle are having kind of hard times because my >uncle has been taken into the army and I'm quite sure they would be glad to sell the computer >to someone if it's worth something. > >~Shawn Sounds like an Apple //c with the Monitor //c (monochrome monitor that Apple sold for it). Not very rare or very valuable. Ebay has an auction for a monitor //c (Item #2302608656), currently at $10.00 US. An Apple //c is also for auction on eBay (item #2302671100), currently at $26.00 US. This will give you a sense of the computer's worth. I am sure that a unit with lots of accessories, software, etc. and in excellent condition, will bring more. Stuart

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Slightly OT? Squished Boxes..

by dholland＠woh.rr.com

Perhaps this is slightly off topic.. (If so, someone say something, and I'll hush..) I was down in the basement when I stumbled across my box of moldy old software, (mostly pre-1995 IBM PC oriented stuff) and thought to myself, "Hmmm, maybe I should put these up on a bookshelf instead of letting them rot down here." Anyways, upon pulling them out of said box, I noticed a number of the boxes had become fairly squished/dented/etc.. (Next time pack them better. :-/ ) Any body ever try to "restore" old software/computer boxes? Got any tips? Thanks, David

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wanted: Multia/UDB spare parts

by freddy＠kotelna.sk

hey folks, I've just missed a great ebay auction for Multia spare parts, does anyone have some multia accessories they might sell/trade? I'm looking mainly for floppy drive with cable and pci riser card with 2.5" connection (and external scsi cable). My multia has also burned videocard, so eventually a whole multia box (with the above included) might be of use as well. If your box doesn't have battery or burned the chip on the botton (common problem, afaik), this doesn't really matter, I'm able to fix this. Thanks in advance, -- freddy ...for more info 'finger freddy(a)kotol.kotelna.sk'

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Data processing equip for sale

by decarvalho70＠yahoo.com

Hello, I found your email on the web regarding this type of equipment. I have the following equipment available for sale. Equipment was recently deinstalled. It is OOS, working. Let me know your interest. IBM 3803 - Series 26371 IBM 3420 - Series 7746995 IBM 3420 - Series 7747435 IBM ES9000/3490-E - Series PE 000730 CPM 1455 - 02 CPM 1416 - 02 CPM 1416 - 02 CPM 1255 - 02 CPM DKU 2051U - 14 FUJITSU SU200 - 8820336 Thank you, Rubens DeCarvalho. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

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Can a TU81+ be connected to a TU80 controller?

by kees.stravers＠iae.nl

I have a VAX 11/750 machine with a TU80 controller in it. I also have a TU81+ tape drive. I know the TU81+ is supposed to be connected to a KLESI controller. But can a TU81+ be connected to the TU80 controller (only doing 1600 then of course)? And if not, does anyone have a Unibus KLESI for sale? Kees. -- Kees Stravers - Geldrop, The Netherlands http://www.vaxarchive.org/ http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/

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Inland ProBackup 500 sought (pinouts or software)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 26, 9:43, Jay West wrote: > >From a previous life, I have a perfectly fine working UPS. The brand says > "Inland - by ABI International". Model is "Probackup5000", part number is > 19500. It has a DB9 serial port on the back for interfacing with a host to > notify it of loss of ac, impending shutdown, etc. However, I don't have the > software (for Windoze) that came with it. > > I've googled for hours, and can't come up with anything on this exact unit. > Would anyone happen to have windows software for it? As a last resort, how > standard is the DB9 pinout (IF I can find the pinout, no luck there > either)... I'm wondering if I can use just about any UPS software for it. Unlikely. However, it might be a standard serial port that you can hook a terminal to, and see what happens. Other than that, I'd suggest a look at the Network UPS Tools pages at http://www.exploits.org/nut/ I know it's not Windows (though there's a client called WinNUT), but it will at least give you an idea what to try and what to expect. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Ultrix v4.3 install on mVaxII

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Short answer (top-posted, sorry): i have a kit and a readme somewhere which allowes net.boot and net.install of Ultrix off any machine that runs Unix. I even ported it to NT :) (just for phun, obviously). Basically, you need: - 200M disk space - packet filter in kernel - my new MOP Server That'll boot anything, including the Ultrix install set. Contact me offlist for more info. --fred > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Jones [mailto:classiccmp@crash.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 8:38 PM > To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Ultrix v4.3 install on mVaxII > > > > I own two mVax, a mVax3100 and an mVaxII, [...] > > Is there an alternative way to install it on the mVaxII ? > > You can setup an Ultrix machine with suitable disk space to be > a Remote Installation Server (RIS), or is it referred to as the > Remote Installation Service? Well anyway, there's a ton of steps > in the Ultrix admin guides explaining how to set the box up as a > bootp/tftp server, how to set up a filesystem with the Ultrix > software "sets," et cetera. I don't think I have that binder > around, but perhaps Google can help... > > This link will at least explain what RIS is and how it works, > though the whole document is focused on setting up RIS on a box > running Digital Unix: > > http://www.tru64unix.compaq.com/docs/base_doc/DOCUMENTATION/HT ML/AA-PS3LE-TE_html/sharing3.html Sorry, in the time I've got I don't see any links for the actual Ultrix OS installation guide. But that's what would walk you through setting up an RIS server -- hopefully that tip will get you a little closer. Good luck, --Steve.

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Ultrix v4.3 install on mVaxII

by classiccmp＠crash.com

> I own two mVax, a mVax3100 and an mVaxII, [...] > Is there an alternative way to install it on the mVaxII ? You can setup an Ultrix machine with suitable disk space to be a Remote Installation Server (RIS), or is it referred to as the Remote Installation Service? Well anyway, there's a ton of steps in the Ultrix admin guides explaining how to set the box up as a bootp/tftp server, how to set up a filesystem with the Ultrix software "sets," et cetera. I don't think I have that binder around, but perhaps Google can help... This link will at least explain what RIS is and how it works, though the whole document is focused on setting up RIS on a box running Digital Unix: http://www.tru64unix.compaq.com/docs/base_doc/DOCUMENTATION/HTML/AA-PS3LE-T… Sorry, in the time I've got I don't see any links for the actual Ultrix OS installation guide. But that's what would walk you through setting up an RIS server -- hopefully that tip will get you a little closer. Good luck, --Steve.

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A cool vintage hardware hack.

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

> > Ey Bob... we want pictures! > > Forget the pictures, we want schematics and source code :-) No... drool first, work later... --f :)

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A cool vintage hardware hack.

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Bob writes: > So in a few evenings of spare time, and for a fairly small > sum of money, you can have a huge, very reliable hard disk > system hanging off of your chosen vintage machine. > > Ok, now I'm off to write a boot-loader for this crazy thing, > and attempt my first ATA cold boot of HP-IPL/OS! Way cool! Sounds similar to the project that interfaces an ATA drive to the DEC Qbus! :) Ey Bob... we want pictures! --f

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ibm sys/36 5360 basic needed

by ceby2＠csc.com

Bill -- I have most of the System/36 stuff... except the languages, sigh. You wouldn't happen to have any of the SSP on 5.25" would you. I have a 5363 I've never successfully IPL'd . And while I'm turning your request for assistance on its head... you wouldn't happen to want a 5360 would you? I have one in need of a good home. I don't even have a garage so I'm paying storage for the beast (2 tape drives, 2 printers, expanded main cabinet with additional disk platters and the magazine version of the 8" floppy). Maybe I can be more helpful if you have other S/36 needs in future. I have a lot of the books and even a few already scanned to PDF. While I'm begging, I don't suppose anyone out there has the Office suite for S/36, or any interesting applications? Or maybe someone wants to be free of a 5364 (a little easier on the electric bills than the 63, 62 or 60). My systems only have SSP, and I have a perverse desire to get some use out of them. -Colin ceby2(a)csc.com Senior Consultant, National Performance Engineeering Practice CSC Consulting.

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What's better than canned air?

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 23, 9:03, Joe wrote: > At 08:56 PM 1/21/03 GMT, pete wrote: > >I was wondering about excess pressure the other day. I thought about a > >pressure switch to shut off the motor, but they seem to be quite expensive. > > Or am I just looking in the wrong places? > I don't know about the UK but such switches are readily available in the US. They're used for controlling the pumps on individual household water wells. I don't know about the UK either ;-) but that seems like a useful tip. Thanks! -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Mac SE up for grabs

by vcf＠siconic.com

I have not contacted this person so I don't know where it is. As always, respond to them if interested. Reply-to: HrrssA(a)aol.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 11:39:49 EST From: HrrssA(a)aol.com Subject: donate I have a MAC SE ala 1986. Printer. Carrying case. Lots of SW. Still purrs. Any interest contact Andy Harriss at Hrrssa(a)aol.com. Thank you -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Inland ProBackup 500 sought (pinouts or software)

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

This is probably OffTopic(tm), but I thought folks here might be able to point me in the right direction. >From a previous life, I have a perfectly fine working UPS. The brand says "Inland - by ABI International". Model is "Probackup5000", part number is 19500. It has a DB9 serial port on the back for interfacing with a host to notify it of loss of ac, impending shutdown, etc. However, I don't have the software (for Windoze) that came with it. I've googled for hours, and can't come up with anything on this exact unit. Would anyone happen to have windows software for it? As a last resort, how standard is the DB9 pinout (IF I can find the pinout, no luck there either)... I'm wondering if I can use just about any UPS software for it. Any advice? THANKS! Jay West --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

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Spectrum Holobyte Tetris

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I ran across the unopened box today at a Salvation Army thrift. First, is there any reason to leave it unopened? It's not all that rare, is it? Second, this box is marked "IBM PC or Tandy 1000", but on the back it has features listed as "Macintosh, Macintosh II, Apple IIGS, Amiga, and Atari ST" only. Does this box include all those versions? Doc

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ibm sys/36 5360 basic needed

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I might, I'll have to check.. I know I have COBOL and SSP and some other crud... Will J _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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cool find.

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 25, 17:52, James Rice wrote: > You need to edit your resolv.conf file to something like this: > > hostresorder local bind > > domain charter.net > > nameserver 151.164.1.8 > nameserver 151.164.11.209 > nameserver 192.168.1.6 > If you don't have a resolv.conf file then use nedit to creat one. You > may not need three entries. The first two in mine are my ISP's > nameserver, the third one is the DNS server on my employers net that I > am VPN'ed into so I can administer it from home. This is from my Indy > running 6.5.x You only need one, but you can put in up to three. The hostresorder line isn't used, though -- it's a hangover from earlier versions and will be ignored in Irix 6.2 and upwards. What you need is an entry in /etc/nsswitch.conf, with the lines hosts: files dns ipnodes: files dns Most software uses the functions that use the hosts line, some uses ipnodes. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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IRIX distro (was Re: cool find.)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 26, 0:21, Doc Shipley wrote: > On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Brian Chase wrote: > > > IRIX 6.5 supports pretty much everything from Indys up through their > > big Origin servers. I don't recall precisely where the cut-off is with > > support of the older systems. Certainly not any of the R3000 based > > ones, but I don't remember if the older straight R4000 Indigo2s were or > > not, but I know that the R5000 Indys and the R4400 Indigo2s are > > supported--probably the R4600 Indys too--and basically everything more > > recent than those. > > R4000 and R4600 Indys are supported, meaning the R4k Indigo2 ought to > be. 6.5 supports R4000 Indigo, all Indigo^2, all Indy, and anything later. A Crimson needs 5.3 or 6.2, not 6.5. An R3000 Indigo needs 5.3 or earlier. Actually, some of the older smaller machines run better with 5.3, but you need a big collection of patches, some of which are hard to find on SGI's "new improved" web site right now. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Intel 8751

by stanb＠dial.pipex.com

Hi, To get back to computers for a change... While looking for some op-amp chips earlier I came across a couple of 8751s (labelled Intel '80). A quick google search failed to turn up a data sheet, anyone any ideas where I can look? -- Cheers, Stan Barr stanb(a)dial.pipex.com The future was never like this!

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Subject: strange things to do with your IBM System/3x

by cb＠mythtech.net

>> all the ibm languages were available for the sys/34 >> and i have all of them basic,cobol,rpgii and fortran. > >Somewhat of a brash statement, as PL/I and APL were also >"IBM languages". :-) Sheesh... seeing the languages listed out... its like playing thru the levels of TRON :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Seeking LaserJet IIISi I/O card

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

I have asked in the past about a replacement card for my HP LJ-IIID with little success (they are apparently somewhat rare). Several people offered me ones that did not physically fit. Well now, I have a *newer* old HP printer, an HP LJ-IIISi that takes the square interface cards with the white/grey 3-row connector. Unfortunately, the printer I got from OSU surplus (which seems to print just fine) only has this truely ancient C2059A integral print server - no serial or parallel, Novell only. :-( Worse, the firmware is particularly obsolete and deprecated by HP. So... if anyone has a spare interface card, I'm interested. Two, in fact; one for me and one for a friend who needs to hook another IIISi to his OS X Mac. The printer is on-topic (mine was manufactured in 1991) at least. Let me know cost/part numbers/etc off-list. Thanks, -ethan __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

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dwp 220 tandy

by MUSHHI＠aol.com

help where can i get a daisy printwheel for my obsolete Tandy 220 dwp printer thanks wolf 360-825-2200

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Harvard Mark I Manual On-Line

by blstuart＠bellsouth.net

I haven't seen this announced here, so for those of you who don't read alt.folklore.computers, Al Kossow has made available a scanned copy of the Manual of Operation for the Harvard Mark I. It's at: http://www.spies.com/aek/pdf/harvard/MarkI_operMan_1946.pdf Be forewarned, however, it's big-about 43Meg. I have a real soft spot for this one. Back in college, I was wandering the library stacks one day looking for something interesting. A book caught my eye. It was a black hardbound book about 2 inches thich with the simple title Manual of Operation. Of course, my curiosity was piqued; I just had to take a look. I'd never heard of the Mark I, but I was absolutly enthralled. I credit that find with much of my interest in the history of computing. By the way, anyone know of an emulator for the Mark I? Brian L. Stuart

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Subject: strange things to do with your IBM System/3x

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

after reading the subject line, i thought the article was going to be about sledge hammers or making them into wet bars (yes on the web - someone has made a vax rack into a wet bar). all the ibm languages were available for the sys/34 and i have all of them basic,cobol,rpgii and fortran. i even have diag and ssp (system support program, ibm's os for sys3x) the two sys34's i have both have bad control storage cards - a typical problem with 5 years in cold storage. otherwise i would be playing with them and not this basic less sys/36. the ssp and all languages for the sys/34 are not compatable with the 36. i did find the 3270 emulator for the 34 and i may have pc support for the 34 - i know i have both for the 36. i found out that one of my 34's came from the local collage - which explains the "funtime" diskettes. they are programs is basic that have printfiles for many "pic's" and football and other text based games. Bill Message: 42 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:17:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: strange things to do with your IBM System/3x (was Re: ibm sys/36 5360 basic needed) From: "Eric Smith" <eric(a)brouhaha.com> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > I might, I'll have to check.. I know I have COBOL and SSP and some other > crud... When I was in junior high school, my friend Doug got a job working on RPG code on a System/34. In his spare time, he translated ADVENT [*] from PDP-10 Fortran to RPG II [**] to run on the System/34. I don't know if there existed a Fortran compiler for the System/34, but if there was, his employer apparently didn't have it. COBOL would actually be a more reasonable language [***] into which to translate ADVENT, and there was a System/34 COBOL compiler. All of the text-handling code in ADVENT is non-portable, because back then FORTRAN didn't have reasonable support for arrays of characters. The number of characters that would pack into any given numeric type was implementation-dependent. On the PDP-10, that was five 7-bit ASCII characters per 36-bit word, with one bit left over. I think Fortran 77 fixed this problem, by defining an actual CHARACTER type. Unfortunately I haven't been in touch with Doug in over twenty years now; I have no idea whether he still has a copy of his RPG ADVENT. Which is a shame, because it would be nice to try it with the Eraseerhead RPG II compiler, which is GPL'd: http://rpg.eraserhead.net/ Eric [*] The original Colossal Cave Adventure game by Crowther and Woods, written in Fortran for the DEC PDP-10. Named "ADVENT" because the TOPS-10 operating system only allows for six-character filenames in SIXBIT code, which does not include lower case. [**] Or maybe it was RPG III. I don't really know what was available on the System/34 back in the late 1970s. [***} I'll bet you never expected to see "COBOL" and "reasonable language" in the same sentence, without an "isn't" between them. :-) Now I'm not saying that I *like* COBOL, but there are definitely some things that it is better-suited for than Fortran IV. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

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5110 trade update

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Funny people with a $5 offer will be actively ignored :) Ok... I'll offer $6 :-p -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Data processing equip for sale

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Hi; Where are you located? Paxton Astoria. OR

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Quasijarus 4.3BSD on 1600bpi magtape

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Fred N. van Kempen <Fred.van.Kempen(a)microwalt.nl> wrote: > - select the correct tape boot blocks > (MT, TK etc) Not for 4.3BSD-QJ0a. You simply write the stand file from my distribution on the tape as the first file with 512-byte records. There is only one tape distribution for all machines and flavors. > - grab the correct kernel and/or RAM disk image Neither for 4.3BSD-Quasijarus (or for any Berkeley distribution ever made for that matter). MS

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Quasijarus 4.3BSD on 1600bpi magtape

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Jochen Kunz <jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de> wrote: > Well, I had to use some programm to write the tapes, dd(1), maketape, or > somthing else. I made good experiences with maketape to write 2.11BSD > tapes, so I stayed with it and it worked very well.=20 > > [...] > > The same for dd(1). There may some implementation differences in dd(1), > say on SunOS or AIX, that may produce unusable tapes. Therefore I used > maketape. I had a glance at the code and it seams that it does > everything proper on every UNIX and Unix-like OS. > Don't forget the chicken-egg problem. If I have no 4.3BSD-Quasijarus > running, I have to use some random foreign OS to produce distribution > tapes. (Or I have to bother somone else to do it for me.) But dd is a standard general-purpose tool, as opposed to a highly specialized program for installing 2.11BSD. > I learnd that the bs=3D parameter of dd doesn't set the block size of the > tape with an ioctl, it is only the buffersize parameter that is used in > the write(2) syscall.=20 On every system I have used the sizes of records written on tapes are determined precisely by how much you write with one write or writev syscall, no ioctl needed. But if some weird system does require a special syscall, I can bet that dd on *that* system will make it. On each system its native dd utility will always do the right thing, as opposed to some special program ripped out of a 2.11BSD distribution and used for something it was never intended for (to write dist tapes for a completely different OS). MS

23 years, 3 months

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Grundy Newbrain

by toring＠inet.uni2.dk

Hi, I have an old Grundy Newbrain AD computer which doesn't work. The machine powers up with random chars in the built in anode display, but doesn't respond to keypresses. I used the machine some 20 years ago, and when I put it away at that time it was ok. I've checked the voltages at the 4116 RAM's and they are ok (+5, +12 and -5 volts). The ripple is also within reasonable limits. I don't have the schema for the machine so right new I'm pretty lost. Is anyone able to help me out? If so, please answer directly at my email address. Regards, Torben Ring DENMARK

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Apple IIe in original boxes (for sale) (fwd)

by vcf＠siconic.com

All the relevant information is below. Reply to the original sender. Reply-to: <cacannon(a)albrightmail.alief.isd.tenet.edu> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 09:47:24 -0600 From: "Cannon, Cynthia" <cacannon(a)albrightmail.alief.isd.tenet.edu> To: "'bounty(a)vintagetech.com'" <bounty(a)vintagetech.com> Subject: Apple II e I have an Apple II e, dual disk drive, monitor, original packing boxes, manuals, some software, etc. Many of the ancillary manuals are still sealed in their plastic wrap. I am interested in selling them. Are you interested? Cynthia Cannon 7203 Triola Lane Houston, Texas 77074 713-271-4203 cyndi324(a)aol.com -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Quasijarus 4.3BSD on 1600bpi magtape

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

> > > Yes. Use maketape from the 2.11BSD distribution. > > I strongly advise against this approach. > Well, I had to use some programm to write the tapes, dd(1), > maketape, or somthing else. Indeed. There is *nothing* magical about making tapes from selected files. What you have to keep in mind are: - select the correct tape boot blocks (MT, TK etc) - grab the correct kernel and/or RAM disk image - use the right blocksize for the above "file" (usually 512bytes) For the remaining files on the tape, blocksizes vary between OSes, and can be anywhere between 512 (old systems) and 10K (UNIX tar files). The key issue is to generate a magtape file marker between the individual files, so the tape handling software knows where a file ends. The block size and tape marker generation are done correctly by the Maketape program. If you want to do it manually: - grab the first ("bootable") file for the tape, and dd it to the tape: dd if=bootfile.img of=/dev/ntape bs=512 this copies "bootfile.img" to the tape, using a block size of 512 bytes, and when done, it will write a tape mark and **NOT** rewind the tape ("ntape" - can be /dev/nrst0, /dev/nrmt0h, /dev/ntk0, etc.) - copy the other files to the tape: dd if=nextfile.foo of=/dev/ntape bs=10240 which copies "nextfile.foo" to the tape, using a block size of 10240 bytes (common for UNIX tar files) and when done, writes the tape mark, and NOT rewind. - when done, write a tape mark and rewind the tape: mt -f /dev/ntape weof mt -f /dev/ntape rewind where the first command (Write EOF) is optional, as most UNIX systems do this automatically when rewinding a tape in write mode. This creates a magtape in the right format for booting. Tools like the Maketape program do this as well, based on a small description file which tells it what goes where and such. > > dd if=stand of=/dev/nrmt0h bs=512 > I learnd that the bs= parameter of dd doesn't set the block > size of the tape with an ioctl, it is only the buffersize > parameter that is used in the write(2) syscall. Correct. The 'dd' program **does not** set the physical block size of the tape device, as it is a generic block/deblock tool, and has no knowledge of devices whatsoever. It sets the block buffer size(s), on which the READ(2) and WRITE(2) system calls are based, which in turn tell the tape device driver what the block size is to be. This only works in the "raw" mode of tape devices, by the way- always use the 'r' device file of a tape unit when doing the above. Cheers, Fred

23 years, 3 months

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Quasijarus 4.3BSD on 1600bpi magtape

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Jochen Kunz <jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de> wrote: > Yes. Use maketape from the 2.11BSD distribution. I strongly advise against this approach. I will not provide any help or support to any user attempting to bootstrap 4.3BSD-Quasijarus from tapes written by this method. 4.3BSD-Quasijarus isn't 2.11BSD, and one cannot expect the tools >from some random foreign OS to produce correct distribution tapes for 4.3BSD- Quasijarus. > You have to observe the > correct block sizes, that you can't do with dd. Yes you can. dd bs=blocksize. Here is the sequence of commands to write a 4.3BSD-Quasijarus 1600 BPI distribution: (mount the first reel) dd if=stand of=/dev/nrmt0h bs=512 dd if=miniroot of=/dev/nrmt0h bs=20b dd if=rootdump of=/dev/nrmt0h bs=20b dd if=usr.tar of=/dev/nrmt0h bs=20b mt rew (first reel done) (mount the second reel) dd if=srcsys.tar.Z of=/dev/nrmt0h bs=20b dd if=src.tar.Z of=/dev/nrmt0h bs=20b (second reel done) MS

23 years, 3 months

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5110 trade update

by francois＠auradon.com

Hi all, It seems like I am going to end up tading for cash :) This will make it easier on everybody and it seems like nobody wants to get rid of their interesting items. I will be putting pictures on my serve this week end anyone interested in welcome to ask me for the address. I will be listing the documentation that I have and any original floppy (if any). Interested parties should contact me before the end of the day sunday (+/- 1 earth revolution :) Funny people with a $5 offer will be actively ignored :) Thank you. Francois

23 years, 3 months

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Digital AXPpci33 "noname" questions

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>If you mean me, my AXPpci33 upgrade was successful (but just in case >I've missed something, what version did you find?) If you mean someone >else, then I'll just go back to minding my own business. It might have been you... Anyway, the image I produced is bootable from the SRM console and delivers a V4.something, if I remember correctly, which is the last version of the console firmware for the AXPpci33... it came from a V6 (or later) CD... Megan

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