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I saw you post 12-17-02 about Intel 1602

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Alex Welti" <lxwelti(a)comcast.net> > >I have been handed down a room full of electronics - my >brother-in-law's father passed away - and I am the nearest relative who >has a career in electronics, so... I am spending my evenings going >through and identifing parts, most of which I am familiar with and have >datasheets on. However, I can't find anything on these i C8702A. A >web search brought me to your posting. I am hoping you have a datasheet >or know where I should go to find one. > >Thanks, >Alex > Hi Alex 8702A is mostly the same as a 1702A and can be programmed with any programmer that supports 1702A. The only difference is that I know of was that the threshold for data was a slightly different voltage. The 8702A was designed to tie directly to a 8080 or 8085 without additional buffering. Otherwise, the 1702A spec will work. If y9ou want the exact levels, I can look it up. Most current programmers do not support the 1702A's. You'll need to find an old programmer someplace. Dwight

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Request for help with a PDP 11/73

by chu＠verizon.net

UPS has already come by and they agreed to process a claim. My options are to get my money back and give them the machine or to get it fixed and they pay for the repairs or replacement -- up to my costs. I don't think replacement is very possible. The UPS guy suggested that I go to circuit city or Best Buy and buy the replacement parts.... Uhhhhh..... Dave Chu Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:03:22 -0600 From: Jeffrey Sharp <jss(a)subatomix.com> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Request for help with a PDP 11/73 Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, chu(a)verizon.net wrote: > I just bought a PDP 11/73, but unfortunately UPS dropped it on the way. My suggestion would be to attempt an insurance claim. All UPS shipments are insured for at least $100 automatically. Hopefully you had more on this... -- Jeffrey Sharp --__--__--

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Compact Flash (CF) cards

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

You may have run out of interrupts for the CF card -- it requires two, one for the drive interface and one for the card, IIRC. On a laptop I had at work, I had to disable the modem (which I seldom used) in order to free up a second interrupt so I could read PCMCIA flash RAM cards that I used in my HP 95LX palmtop. -----Original Message----- From: gil smith [mailto:gil@vauxelectronics.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:28 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: OT: Compact Flash (CF) cards <snip> I got a couple of Compact Flash (CF) cards to play with, and I also got a CF-PCMCIA adapter to try the cards in my laptop. Unfortunately, I cannot get Win-frickin-98 to see the card. <snip>

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Selectric Typewriter conversions

by marvin＠rain.org

Does anyone remember what was required to convert an IBM Selectric Typewriter to a computer printer? I seem to recall a kit of some sort was available, but my memory is *really* hazy about that.

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Old Computer Companies

by alanp＠snowmoose.com

>>But DEC as a company is long gone. I am *well* aware of what happened >>with the DEC -> Compaq -> HP thing. > >I don't know. A friend of mine still has his DEC e-mail address. > >That doesn't mean anything... up until I was layed off from HP, my >DEC email address (@zk3.dec.com) still worked, though that domain >is scheduled to go away at some point. They've been working site >by site to remove the old dec stuff and replace it with @hp.com. That's true. However, as long as a computer company's domain exists, as long as it has a presence on the net, the company still exists in some little way. alan

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Request for help with a PDP 11/73

by jss＠subatomix.com

On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, chu(a)verizon.net wrote: > UPS has already come by and they agreed to process a claim. My options are > to get my money back and give them the machine or to get it fixed and they > pay for the repairs or replacement -- up to my costs. Personally? If it's borken enough, I'd give 'em the machine and take the dough. /73s are common enough that another will come along within a year, probably sooner. -- Jeffrey Sharp

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New to list

by ssj152＠charter.net

Hi, I am new here; I've been lurking (reading the archives) for a while, decided to join. Since I retired I've taken up "retrocomputing" and see a lot of discussion here about systems I'm interested in and hopefully I'll be able to contribute at times. I am certainly having fun reading the posts - the recent posts about "middle posting" really cracked me up! I am interested in 6502 based systems, especially the KIM-1 and SYM-1. I currently have a VIM-1 and a SYM-1, having years ago been thickheaded enough to sell my KIM-1. Wish I had one now, can't afford one on eBay. I have nothing against the AIM-65, I just have never fooled with one and haven't been able to pick one up yet. My interest in small 6502's has been extended to small "trainers" with different CPU's, like the Heathkit ET-3400 and the HP 5036A. One of these days I may get around to fooling around with PIC's, but I'm still having too much fun with the old stuff. I'm looking for a copy of the HP book "Practical Microprocessors, HP part number 05036-90003" if anyone has an affordable source for one. I have inquiries out to several "manual" sites and am awaiting replies. I also have history with PDP-11's, using RT-11 and RSX-11M. I have a PDT-11/150 at the present and run RT-11 on it. What I'd really like to have is a H-11 (yeah, I can really afford that...no way) or better yet, a DCT-11 trainer. I saw 3 of the DCT-11's go by this fall on eBay and wasn't in a position to bid. In recent years I worked with VAXes and have several VAXStations and MicroVAXes, in the 3100 and 4000 series. I'm not sure these qualify as classic (3100-10e, 4000-VLC, 4000-60, 4000-90). I also have a few Alpha's. - Multia, AlphaStation 200 4/100, and AlphaServer 1000A. I spent the last 10 years of my career as a systems programmer working with OpenVMS in a process control (SCADA) environment. I am not so much a collector as a user and builder of computers and peripherals. By that I mean I'm not trying to corner the market, open a museum, or that I consider these computers as "investments". I am not likely to sell anything, but might be interested in buying a few things, especially documentation for some of the machines I have. What documentation I have I may at some time convert to PDF and publish for anyone else interested to play with. Stuart Johnson ssj152 AT charter DOT net

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OT: RE: Collecting, Hacking and the Spooks (was: Gulf War, dummie s,

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

New York Times June 11, 2001 Court Restricts Heat-Sensor Searches By David Stout WASHINGTON -- The Supreme Court today reiterated the right of privacy in the age of technology, ruling in an Oregon drug case that the police cannot use a heat-seeking device to probe the interior of a home without a search warrant. -----Original Message----- From: vance(a)neurotica.com [mailto:vance@neurotica.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:10 PM To: Zane H. Healy Cc: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Collecting, Hacking and the Spooks (was: Gulf War, dummies, On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Zane H. Healy wrote: <snip> > > What I've been wondering about is, how long before we start setting off > alarms in some Government agency due to our abnormally high use of > electricity? Or due to the abnormally high level of heat in area's of > our home? Back when I used an ES/9000 in my parents house, I managed to attract the attention of the law. There were two DEA agents from the local office with one of the local sheriff's deputys with him. They showed up and asked me if I was growing marijuana. I said something to the effect of, "What gave you that idea?" They showed me a report from the power company. I laughed and told them to come look for themselves. They were quite unprepared for the size of my computer, I can tell you that. 8-) Peace... Sridhar

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OT: Compact Flash (CF) cards

by gil＠vauxelectronics.com

Hi folks: This is off-topic, (and if you are in the sbc6120 group you have already seen it): I got a couple of Compact Flash (CF) cards to play with, and I also got a CF-PCMCIA adapter to try the cards in my laptop. Unfortunately, I cannot get Win-frickin-98 to see the card. I have a similar Smartmedia-PCMCIA adapter for camera cards, and it seems to work fine in the same machine (ibm thinkpad 600e). In both cases, I inserted the card/adapter, WinBlows sees it and starts the device wizard to install a "Standard IDE/ESDI Hard Disk Controller." For the Smartmedia card/adapter, the card automatically appears as a drive in Explorer, and all is well. For the CF card/adapter, it asked me to reboot, and even then does not see the card. The Device Manager Status for the controller says "device not present, not working properly, or does not have all drivers installed (code 10)." There are no resource conflicts to correct. However, the controller driver is seen by the PCMCIA utility that allows me to stop the card for removal. I've searched at ibm and microsoft, and various google finds, but cannot make sense of this, and have already spent way too much time on it. Has anyone had problems or success reading CF cards in Win98 with a PCMCIA adapter? Is a usb adapter a better choice? Upgrading the o/s is not an option, since I never intend to give microsoft another penny. thanks in advance, gil ;----------------------------------------------------------- ; vaux electronics, inc. 480-354-5556 ; http://www.vauxelectronics.com (fax: 480-354-5558) ;-----------------------------------------------------------

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386

by bluegenie＠ntlworld.com

I am after some baby at 286/386/486 motherboards of size aprox 8 3/4 inches x 6 3/4 inches Can you help Graham Challis [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of IMSTP.gif] [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type Image/jpeg which had a name of 2.jpg]

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PeeCee obtained 5000AT

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Recently obtained a *BLUSH* old PC. Normally wouldn't post about it here but... someone may be interested in a copy of the software on it. This thing is kind of a slimline desktop case, has a 3.5 floppy and 5.25 floppy. It's a leading edge model 5000AT. I think it is a 286. But what might be interesting to some is, it comes with something called "windos" I believe, and is a leading edge specific "make the computer simple" GUI sort of. Basically just lets you point and click to call 123, easywriter, etc. I thought someone might be interested in the software & gui files. God I feel dirty now *G*

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Request for help with a PDP 11/73

by chu＠verizon.net

Thats what I was hoping. I think that it is trying to boot from the disk that I think is dead. I have a vt420 to hook up, but I do not have the cabling that I need. I just bought a gender changer and a null modem on eBay. When they get here I will hook it up to see what the console output says. Thanks, Dave Chu >I just bought a PDP 11/73, but >unfortunately UPS dropped it >on the way. So I am trying to >what ever documentation and >diagnostics that I can locate >to figure out how badly it was >damaged. >The mounts for the tape drive and >disk drive were broken as well as >all of the external plastic. >The machine powers up and goes through >some self diagnostics, stopping with the >LED's reading "01". The disk drive stays >quite and unlit, my conclusion was that it >appears dead. >I am looking for any help that I can get. > >TIA, >Dave Chu > > > What is reported on the console port? Plug in a terminal/etc and see what it tells you. If there is a problem, it should display a more useful error message. I believe that at 01, it is trying to boot the software >from wherever it is set up to boot from.

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[cc] RE: OT/Admin: tags

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Sellam raged: > Here's what I see when I get an index of the my mailbox: [ pine display removed] > Here's what it would look like with a pre-pended tag: [ more pine removed] > 3/5 of the message topic lines are now gone, making them practically > useless for getting a quick scan of the message subjects. Oh. You mean, your stupid mail client cant even widen its display? Get a real mail client then, dude. See how fucked-up that comment is? Right. Same goes for another comment stating that "every decent mail client can do processing". It's simply not true. Like my statement above. People use all sorts of clients, and they all have different capabilities. > I just read and delete through as I go through my inbox. Try that on my mailbox. > But, what I'm saying is, we did already go over this in the Great > Divergence. MUST we REPEAT this STUPID ARGUING over HOW the LIST is > PRESENTED TIME and TIME and F0!KING TIME aGAIN? Settle down, dude. > I mean SHIT! I have never met a more whiny-assed group of nerds in my > life! If the whining on this list over all the stupid little shit that > gets whined about could be converted into energy, we'd be able to power > Asia. I don't feel like powering Asia. Just my own home would be nice, given the VAXen here. I still vote for a small [cc] tag. In front of the subject. > Just accept it already and SHUT UP! No. --fred

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Columbia - THIS THREAD MUST DIE

by loedman1＠juno.com

>I think that you all didn't saw that i was forgotten to put an 's' inbetween >the b and the c of unsub(s)cribe. >That's why I posted it two times... so the one who clames that I posted >'unsubscribe' twice ... lies... >Read your messages closely!!!!!!! >Michel Bye now !!! Rich

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Unsubscribability

by loedman1＠juno.com

Have you ever considered that you are making yourself an excellent target, your attitude is amusing and you certainly do not play well with others. (Is this a top post ?) Rich Stephenson California >What's the difference between spam and these ridiculous mails... I don't >now... >Please stop this crap.... >Michel

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Is there such a thing as a ZIF socket for PLCC chips?

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

I am needing to burn PLCC-packaged chips in my DIP programmer. I expect I need to locate a PLCC<->DIP adapter of the right size (for 29C010 and 28F101 Flash chips, at the moment). Thinking about it made me wonder if any of the sockets were ZIF or LIF. Any ideas? Any recommendation on a source for adapters? Thanks, -ethan

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Any Amiga users on this list?

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

Hi, Anybody here using Amiga 500's?

23 years, 3 months

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KDJ11-EA or EB

by skeane＠apogeedata.com

I need an 11/93 CPU board Willing to pay top dollar Steven Keane Apogee Data Systems 11 Bricketts Mill Road Hampstead, NH 03841 Phone: 603 329-5676 Fax: 978 964-0561 Toll Free 866 287-2996 Cell: 603 231-8400 Email: skeane(a)apogeedata.com

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Multitec Plus 700 PC, information on

by RCTech＠cnri.us

I have one of the original IBM compatible clones made by Multitech (Plus 700 model). But can not find any of the documentation. Does anyone on this forum have any information on the internals of this PC?

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I saw you post 12-17-02 about Intel 1602

by lxwelti＠comcast.net

I have been handed down a room full of electronics - my brother-in-law's father passed away - and I am the nearest relative who has a career in electronics, so... I am spending my evenings going through and identifing parts, most of which I am familiar with and have datasheets on. However, I can't find anything on these i C8702A. A web search brought me to your posting. I am hoping you have a datasheet or know where I should go to find one. Thanks, Alex

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(no subject)

by gksloane＠hotmail.com

marvin - still got any Cado hardware/software for sale? Gary _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

23 years, 3 months

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Columbia - THIS THREAD MUST DIE

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Yow, Grumpy Ol' Fred is top-posting: > But the absolutley most OFF-TOPIC post of all, is sending an UNSUBSCRIBE > message to the list. Everybody makes mistakes. But doing that TWICE > invalidates one's rights to gripe about off-topic posts. Here's a little clue for everyone. Every message from this list (and others run by Mailman I think) has some headers in it that tell you (among other things) how to subscribe and unsubscribe: List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Id: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk.classiccmp.org> List-Post: <mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> List-Help: <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=subscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/> Some of these are even valid webby links, so may be usable by the pointy-clicky set. > Time to return to discussions of guns and automobiles! Don't forget the molten iron! -Frank McConnell

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Old Computer Companies

by aek＠spies.com

> In the lobby of the building was Gene Amdahl's first computer, not for sale. Gene's first computer was WISC. The console is at the Computer History Museum. A picture of the complete machine is at http://www.spies.com/aek/pdf/brl/compSurvey_Mar1961/BRL_jpgs/1020_WISC.jpg

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IBM Series/1

by mross666＠hotmail.com

Hi, May have a line on one of those... I know they're interesting, I've heard they have something resembling an operator panel, but I've never actually seen one and I can't find any pics on the web... can anybody point me to some? Thanks Mike http://www.corestore.org _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 3 months

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Any Amiga users on this list?

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> I play games on mine mostly, but want to get a HD to do some programming on > the system. Flipping floppies is starting to get annoying. there are a few schematics for Amiga hard disk controllers floating around the 'net, of varying degrees of complexity - I'll see if I've still got any bookmarked. I seem to remember that the most promising one was all in Russian though. I went overseas before I could try wiring anything up unfortunately, but maybe I'll get back on the case someday... cheers Jules Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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Sierra Adventure Games

by ejchapel＠attbi.com

Amazing to see a thread about a computer game with good family values evolve into a discussion about french postcard porn. I guess the computing hobby involves a bit too much time spent alone.

23 years, 3 months

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intel 8008

by chamart＠sympatico.ca

What is the name of the society fouded in 1972 that used intel 8008 fot a system measuring traffic

23 years, 3 months

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Request for help with a PDP 11/73

by jss＠subatomix.com

On Tuesday, February 4, 2003, chu(a)verizon.net wrote: > I just bought a PDP 11/73, but unfortunately UPS dropped it on the way. My suggestion would be to attempt an insurance claim. All UPS shipments are insured for at least $100 automatically. Hopefully you had more on this... -- Jeffrey Sharp

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[OT] Anyone experienced with white LEDs?

by zmerch＠30below.com

I'm looking at building a personal lighting project possibly using white LEDs instead of regular miniature bulbs, and as I browsed the Mouser catalog, I got a whole lot more confused than less... I'm trying to get the maximum amount of light for current expended, and the numbers seem to be nonstandard, or at least not enough info is provided... :-/ Example: P. 217, "Super Flux LED Lamps" The white one shows at 20mA it will put out 400-600 "Iv (mcd)" P. 216, "Blue & White LED Lamps" The brightest white they have is listed as: "2200->3200 "Luminous Intensity" but with no mention of current or value (mcd? ucd? ) P. 199, "Thru-Hole White LED Lamps" "Luminous Intensity" ? current would output 1.7->2.3->2.6 (min/typical/max) mcd... and on P. 206, there's a few colored LEDs output listed as "Foot Lamberts"... And Digi-Key has these Surface Mount Incandescent Lamps... :-O The look cool, but how hot do they get? (It's a very small installation area... It's still an idea I'm forming, but if it works out, it's a *kewl* idea...) Any good websites w/info on how to figure out how many LEDs I'd need to make about a 40W (or more) lightbulb worth of light? -- Also, my college electronics braincells are rather weak, as I can't remember if the wattage rating means "total dissapated wattage" or "total wattage of the circuit branch it's in"... [1] ... I'm getting too old for this ... Any help/pointers would be *massively cool*... Thanks! "Merch" [1] - I want to use SMT current limiting resistors [2] (fewer holes to drill...) and the highest wattage ratings I can find is 1/8W... in a 6V 20mA circuit it's running real close... (I could run ~17mA to get a margin of error... but I want the max light I can get...) RatShaq has 1.2A 6V wall-warts for a reasonable $, and I wanna build a "different" light fixture. Of course, I want a *usable* light fixture... ;-) [2] - I wish I could find SMT white LEDs... :-/ -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers zmerch(a)30below.com What do you do when Life gives you lemons, and you don't *like* lemonade?????????????

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summary: DEC VAX/VXT2000 and monitors

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

All, Thanks all for the info. Basically, there's a whole myriad of cards and monitors for DEC systems, and there's no single tube that works with them all. Solution (for me, ymmv) was to get a (cheap! :) multisync monitor with BNC connectors and sync-on-green capability - I was able to get a used Iiyama MF8117T (known to US people as IDEK MF8117T) 17" tube. Works like a charm, rock-solid picture on all systems I could set up for testing. Neat! I am typing this in a window on that thing, connected to the VXT2000+ X Terminal, which in turn is connected to my OpenBSD VAX (4100). Yay! --fred

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Selectric Typewriter conversions

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 12:36 AM 2/4/03 -0800, you wrote: >> Does anyone remember what was required to convert an IBM Selectric >> Typewriter to a computer printer? I seem to recall a kit of some sort >> was available, but my memory is >> *really* hazy about that. > Speaking of interfacing Selectrics. I was talking to my father about Teletypes the other day and he told me that he had thrown out an old "word processor" (my term not his). He said that it was a desk sized mechanical unit that had a keyboard and mechanical printer along with a paper tape punch/reader. He said that you could type in a letter and insert a pause any place where you wanted to insert unique data such as a name. The unit would save everything on punched paper tape. You could then feed the PT back into and it would type the letter. When it got to the pause it would stop and let you manually type in the name or other data and then it would continue and finish the letter. Does anyone know what these thing was? I think he must have gotten this after I left home because I don't remember ever seeing it. Unfortunately he threw it away several years ago. Joe

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OT/Admin: tags

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 4, 12:49, Jay West wrote: > That being said - this has come up for discussion several times in the past, > and pretty much the majority of people said don't put it in so I left it > out. However, if the majority opinion has changed, I'd be happy to add it > back. Tis up to you folks! :) My vote is to leave it as it is, ie no tag, please. I dislike the wasted space in the subject line (and yes I can make it wider but I choose not to do so because it suits everything else the way it is, thanks), and there are plenty of other things in the headers I can filter on. Besides, once a thread has started I can recognise the subject lines; I don't need tags. FWIW, I'm on several other lists, either at home or at work, only a few of which use tags -- and all of those have at some time exhibited the recursion problem, apparently because some MUAs munge the subject lines when replying. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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[OT] Anyone experienced with white LEDs?

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Roger Merchberger" <zmerch(a)30below.com> > >I'm looking at building a personal lighting project possibly using white >LEDs instead of regular miniature bulbs, and as I browsed the Mouser >catalog, I got a whole lot more confused than less... > >I'm trying to get the maximum amount of light for current expended, and the >numbers seem to be nonstandard, or at least not enough info is provided... :-/ > >Example: > >P. 217, "Super Flux LED Lamps" > The white one shows at 20mA it will put out 400-600 "Iv (mcd)" >P. 216, "Blue & White LED Lamps" > The brightest white they have is listed as: "2200->3200 > "Luminous Intensity" but with no mention of current or value > (mcd? ucd? ) Hi I'm not sure what "Luminous Intensity" means but mcd means milli-candles and ucd means micro-candles. >P. 199, "Thru-Hole White LED Lamps" > "Luminous Intensity" ? current would output 1.7->2.3->2.6 > (min/typical/max) mcd... > > >and on P. 206, there's a few colored LEDs output listed as "Foot Lamberts"... > >And Digi-Key has these Surface Mount Incandescent Lamps... :-O The look >cool, but how hot do they get? (It's a very small installation area... It's >still an idea I'm forming, but if it works out, it's a *kewl* idea...) > >Any good websites w/info on how to figure out how many LEDs I'd need to >make about a 40W (or more) lightbulb worth of light? This is not so easy to figure. You need to know how efficient the LED's are, relative to standard bulbs. It seems like I saw something that said that LEDs were not quite as efficient as fluorescent lamps but still better than incandescents. If we figured them at twice as efficient, you'd need 20W's of LEDs. Watts is just the current times the voltage. You figure this for each LED and add them all together. LEDs do require a circuit to limit the current. When you figure your total light output, you don't count the loss in the control circuit. Of course, for the final tally, you'll need to include this as well. When driving a number of LED's, it is better to drive a large number in series because you only need one current limiting circuit. The count of LED's would depend on the voltage source you have available. You'd have the total LED voltage plus the drop needed across your current limiting cicuit. Dwight > >-- Also, my college electronics braincells are rather weak, as I can't >remember if the wattage rating means "total dissapated wattage" or "total >wattage of the circuit branch it's in"... [1] > >... I'm getting too old for this ... > >Any help/pointers would be *massively cool*... > >Thanks! >"Merch" > >[1] - I want to use SMT current limiting resistors [2] (fewer holes to >drill...) and the highest wattage ratings I can find is 1/8W... in a 6V >20mA circuit it's running real close... (I could run ~17mA to get a margin >of error... but I want the max light I can get...) RatShaq has 1.2A 6V >wall-warts for a reasonable $, and I wanna build a "different" light >fixture. Of course, I want a *usable* light fixture... ;-) > >[2] - I wish I could find SMT white LEDs... :-/ > >-- >Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers >zmerch(a)30below.com > >What do you do when Life gives you lemons, >and you don't *like* lemonade?????????????

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Old Computer Companies

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Well, Intergraph still makes computers, they're just PCs.. But you guys missed Concurrent, the descendant of Interdata and Perkin-Elmer, who specializes in Video On Demand solutions.. they also bought Harris's computer division, for the nighthawk. I think MODCOMP is still around in some form also.. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Request for help with a PDP 11/73

by acme＠ao.net

> I just bought a PDP 11/73, but > unfortunately UPS dropped it > on the way. So I am trying to > what ever documentation and > diagnostics that I can locate > to figure out how badly it was > damaged. > The mounts for the tape drive and > disk drive were broken as well as > all of the external plastic. Jeez, man, that REALLY sucks. My sympathies, and I hope that some of the DECsters here on the list can help you revive the beast. Please keep us posted. Glen 0/0

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OT/Admin: tags [CLOSED]

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Case dismissed, I'll drop the subject (without tags, even) now that I am getting personal attacks about it. I'll just unsubscribe, that will get rid of the OT banter as well. --fred

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OT/Admin: tags

by acme＠ao.net

From: Fred N. van Kempen <Fred.van.Kempen(a)microwalt.nl> To: Glen Goodwin <acme(a)ao.net> Subject: OT/Admin: tags Date: 02/04/2003 12:10 AM > Given the volume of the list, and the many off-topic (lets not discuss > what is and is not on-topic here) talk, I would like to propose [again] > that we do like other lists do: insert a tag [cctalk] in the Subject: > line of the postings, so it's easy to distinguis the postings from > other, perhaps more pressing e-mail. [snip] > I don't want to start Yet Another Discussion, a mere vote would do, as > we're all techies who know what this is about. My vote, FWIW: the list works fine the way it is. Later -- Glen 0/0

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[cc] RE: OT/Admin: tags

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Fred N. van Kempen" <Fred.van.Kempen(a)microwalt.nl> wrote: > See how fucked-up that comment is? Right. Same goes for another comment > stating that "every decent mail client can do processing". It's simply > not true. Like my statement above. People use all sorts of clients, and > they all have different capabilities. If your mail software doesn't do what you need it to do, maybe you need to complain to whoever sells and supports it, or find other mail software that does do what you need done. Asking the rest of the net to change so that you can keep using losing software is not nice. > I still vote for a small [cc] tag. In front of the subject. Here's how that works out here: I set up my mail software to strip the tag so I don't have to see it. (Clearly, my mail software wins: it doesn't just do what I need, but also what I want.) Then, when I reply to the list, my reply's subject does not have the tag. So messages in the thread can have at least three different subjects: [cc] foo Re: [cc] foo [cc] Re: foo I'd bet that there's a fourth possibility based on phase of the moon: [cc] Re: [cc] foo Do you begin to understand why I think subject tags are not a good idea? > > Just accept it already and SHUT UP! > No. Yep, that's the problem. The way your message came across out here in Sillycon Valley was: "I know we've been over this before, so there's no need to discuss it, just vote to do this and then us folks who cling to our losing software will stop bringing it up." This is not the way to win friends and influence people, not that there's much hope of influencing me on this point. -Frank McConnell, filtering his incoming e-mail since 1994

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[cc] Re: [cc] RE: OT/Admin: tags

by cb＠mythtech.net

>But another problem with prepending something to the subject line could be >the recursing going on... > >Notice subject line... That's why I vote for no prepending. I am on some lists that do this, and long discussions (like this list is notorious for) end up quickly becoming nothing more than a subject line of "Re: [cc]" repeated over and over. And no, a smart list server that can handle tags (and thus not insert them on messages that already have them, or insert them after the Re:) doesn't always help. Some mail clients/services munge them. And all it takes is one person in the discussion with an effected client, and the whole thing gets thrown out of whack. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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OT/Admin: tags

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> John wrote" > > Yes, please... *every* other maillist I subscribe to has [mailistname] > > prepended to the "Subject" field...except for Classiccmp, which > > generates three times the message traffic the others do combined... > > Please DON'T do this. Only about 5% of the mailing lists I subscribe > to have this, and it annoys the heck out of me because it just keeps > me from seeing that many characters of the subject line in the summary > view. I'd like to agree with Eric, and also to remind people that this has been tried on the CLASSICCMP mailing lists, and it annoyed the H*** out of so many of us that it was stopped. One major problem I have with it is that it prevents the email software I use from being able todproperly sort the messages! Zane

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Ultrix V4.20 sources and binaries

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Hi everyone, A number of people have complained to me about not being able to unpack the tarball with Ultrix V4.20 sources that has been on my FTP site since May 2001. I have finally found the time to look into the problem and indeed the file was corrupt. Fortunately, I was able to read my old backup tapes (from Cleveland, OH, 1999-07-15) without any problems, and discovered to my great joy that this file was good on my Cleveland machine. (It apparently got corrupted in one of the turbulent moves from Cleveland to Dallas, TX and then to Orange County, CA. I don't have any idea how.) ivan.Harhan.ORG:/pub/UNIX/thirdparty/Ultrix-32/sources now contains *good* Ultrix V2.00 and V4.20 sources. (Be warned, though, that this machine resides in my cave which is connected to the outside world through a modem which usually connects at 31200 BPS, sometimes 28800. Feel free to set up a mirror.) For what it's worth, I have also put up my Ultrix V4.20 distribution tape images in /pub/UNIX/thirdparty/Ultrix-32/ult420vaxdist-tk50. They are quite incomplete, however, as when I had the tape in my hand (at CWRU in spring 1998) I was unable to read it entirely without errors. Therefore, the V4.00 tape images in /pub/UNIX/thirdparty/Ultrix-32/ult400vaxdist-tk50 will probably be more useful for most people. If you have the guts, install V4.00 and then recompile V4.20 from the sources! -- Michael Sokolov Programletarian Freedom Fighter International Free Computing Task Force Let the Source be with you Programletarians of the world, unite!

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PeeCee obtained 5000AT

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> wrote: > Nope, this was graphical, not character based. The computer booted into the > gui, and when you clicked on like "program manager" it gave you a gui list > of programs configured (you could add & modify). If you clicked on those > with the mouse, the computer switched to character mode and ran the > character based application. So tell us, Jay, how do you feel about PAM on an HP Vectra? As near as I can tell the only difference is how fancy they get with the video controller. -Frank McConnell

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Pro_Log STD BUS manuals needed

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: I bought a STDBUS instrumentation computer off of eBay last week for $9, and it has some interesting boards in it. Unfortunately, the boards are mostly older Pro-Log models and information is sparse. I've made contact with the "legacy" manufacturer who wants $50 per manual for two of the boards. I found information for two of them on VersaLogic's Web site. So, here's the list of boards. If any one has original Pro-Log manuals for these that they can copy and send me, please contact me off-list. Pro-Log# Description 7303 DSKY (Display/keyboard module) 7502 Relay output module (8 relays) 7605 Programmable I/O 7806-1 Z80 CPU card (I have copy of VersaLogic's manual) Other P-L boards from another system I have: Pro-Log# Description 7805-1 8085 CPU card 7604A 64-bit digital I/O (I have copy of VersaLogic's manual) Thanks again for any help. Rich

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Columbia - Computers

by SPEDRAJA＠ono.com

Hi everybody: > Space Shuttle issues other than the computers are off-topic. Having in mind Eric's recommendation, I do this change of subject to difference this thread from others more, ehh... "off-topic". > Does anyone have the manuals for HAL/S, the language used for the > AP-101 software? There's some info on it at: > http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/computer Some time ago appeared one manual on eBay. I couldn't obtain it. But my interest is still active. Greetings Sergio

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Apple IIe + disk drive controller wanted

by livewire＠netadel.com

Anyone in the south or east bay have a spare Apple IIe with disk controller or just a spare disk controller they would part with cheap or free? I'm finally getting through a couple of higher-priority projects and have time to start on my "Get a ddial up and running again" project. Thanks!

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DEC7000 Rackmount docs?

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

Does anyone know where I could find documentation for a *rackmount* DEC7000? HPaq has plenty for the cabinet model, but I need to get into a rackmount unit and I'd like to RTFM *before* I take wrenches to it. I know that's heresy, but that's the way I am.... Doc

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Dolch Logic Instruments 8086 Trace Module....

by d_l_mcd＠hotmail.com

I got this thing (Dolch Logic Instruments 8086 Trace Module) along with a bunch of other stuff at auction. If it is of any use to anybody, let me know right away. Otherwise it will soon get scrapped or trashed or binned or skipped, and it looks too nice a piece of work for that. Best regards, Dan McDonald Bellows Falls, Vermont USA

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Old Computer Companies

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>>But DEC as a company is long gone. I am *well* aware of what happened >>with the DEC -> Compaq -> HP thing. > >I don't know. A friend of mine still has his DEC e-mail address. That doesn't mean anything... up until I was layed off from HP, my DEC email address (@zk3.dec.com) still worked, though that domain is scheduled to go away at some point. They've been working site by site to remove the old dec stuff and replace it with @hp.com. Megan

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FW: DEC Pro 350

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

The gentleman below is looking for a replacement video card for his DEC Pro-350. I don't have anything for him, but I was hoping someone on the list might be able to help him out. Please contact him at the email address shown below if you can do anything for him. Thank you, Erik -----Original Message----- From: michael allegretta [mailto:mikeallegretta@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 2:13 PM To: webmaster(a)vintage-computer.com Subject: DEC Pro 350 I have a DEC Pro 350 that I value for running Fortran programs. The monochrome video generator board is on its way out. Is it possible to get a replacement? Regards, Mike

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Old Computer Companies

by alanp＠snowmoose.com

>> Actually, DEC is still somewhat around -- it was absorbed into Compaq in >> 1997, and, of course, Compaq was absorbed into HP last year. As such, >> HP now holds all the rights and histories to everything DEC and Compaq. >> DEC/Compaq provided contract on-site tech support to my current and past >> two retail firms. HP provides those services now, with the same (if >> older) DEC and Compaq field techs. I still work with many of them in my >> current tech support position. > >But DEC as a company is long gone. I am *well* aware of what happened >with the DEC -> Compaq -> HP thing. I don't know. A friend of mine still has his DEC e-mail address. >> And, while we're asking, does anyone know what happened to Burroughs? >> As I left the Air Force in 1991, I was working with a cantankerous, >> already jurassic, cobbled-together system produced by "Convergent >> Technologies -- an abortive fusion of Burroughs and NCR. It's "banded" >> 512K memory board nearly neasured a square foot by 1.5" thick, and was >> banded to *prevent* it from accessing a full 1Mb of memory. >Burroughs and Sperry merged to form Unisys. OK, what happened to the things that made Burroughs Burroughs? I worked there from 1986 to 1989. The B1000 machines were EOL'ed when I got there and I pretty much had the B1965 at Lake Forest (Orange Co., CA) to myself doing support for HOSTLINK and GEMCOS. I think Art Sorkin (Mr. B1000 MCP) had one in Mission Viejo doing MCP support. I never cared much for the Pasadena machines (the V-Series or Medium systems) and I don't know when they were EOL'ed. There was a lot of B5000/Large System/A-Series hardware development after I left, but I don't know what happened to those machines. Is anyone still commercially running any of this hardware? I am not sure which CT machines you are talking about or if you have the full story on CT. When I joined Burroughs, they were selling a line of desktop computer called B20 (even though there were B3x machines). These machines were made by CT and ran an OS called BTOS (a variant on CT's own CTOS). They were kinda cool because the form factor for each component was something like a 10" tall by 10" deep by 4" wide box (called a 'slice') and you added slices together (say, a CPU slice, a display slice and a disk slice) to make a working computer. alan

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Columbia - THIS THREAD MUST DIE

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Computermuseum" <computermuseum(a)pandora.be> wrote: > I think that you all didn't saw that i was forgotten to put an 's' inbetween > the b and the c of unsub(s)cribe. Didn't really care either, just trying to be helpful (and yank Fred's chain about forgetting the molten iron). I see you claim to be leaving for real now, so mind the door/bottom interface! -Frank McConnell

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Signetics 82S153 question

by fmc＠reanimators.org

I have some 82S153s which I would like to read. What I'm wondering is, can I tell my PLD-reader (a Data I/O 29A w/LogicPak and 303A-001 p/t head) that what I'm reading is a PHL (presumably Philips, who owned Signetics at the time) PLS153, and successfully (and non-destructively read) the parts? It would appear that Data I/O changed the firmware, and the family/pinout codes, between what they were when they supported the 82S153 and the PLS153, and I don't know the history or differences between the parts. So I'm a little bit nervous about just popping parts in and trying it. -Frank McConnell

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OT: RoadRunner Blacklisted, Blocking Bounce Messages!

by bill＠timeguy.com

After getting a number of "Are you still alive?" messages from various friends on the web, and having sent similar messages to them when I received no response to other e-mails, I made an infuriating discovery. RoadRunner is listed in several blacklists (dsbl.org for one), and a number of ISPs are blocking e-mail from their domain (at least from RoadRunner Nebraska - nebr.rr.com). RoadRunner's response was to fix the open relay and get delisted, right? Nope. Their response was to state that they "don't negotiate with blacklists" and promptly _blocked_ all mail from dsbl.org to RoadRunner users. Hence, I would send e-mails to my friends, they would be bounced due to the blacklisting, and I would have no indication of a problem because RR's block would prevent the "bounce" message from getting back to me. Bastards. At least one person I was corresponding with is no longer speaking to me because they thought I was ignoring them. I'm about ready to start a class action suit, although they probably have something in the fine print that prevents that. GRRR!

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Columbia - THIS THREAD MUST DIE

by jwillis＠arielusa.com

Some of us are using very slow dial-up connections with even more cumbersome web interfaces. The occasional off-topic post is OK but this has gone way too far. I've gotten three additional "pages" of mail headers due to this thread-just today. -----Original Message----- From: Sellam Ismail Sent: Sun 2/2/2003 10:42 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Cc: Subject: Re: Columbia On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, Eric Dittman wrote: > > > ...for that matter, only 2 complete craft/crew losses for the shuttle > > > program in over 20 years; and including these, only *3* complete craft/crew > > > losses in a space program that's run for nearly 35 years? That's still a > > > damned good record in anyone's book, regardless of what the detractors may > > > say... Name me an aircraft or series of aircraft who can make the same > > > claim. (Noogies for the person who can name the *1* airliner that comes > > > closest to beating this record...) > > > > Southwest Airlines. > > Southwest Airlines is an airline, not airliner. He was asking > for a model of passenger airplane. Got it. But they still have the best commercial record of any (US-based at least) airline ;) Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com * [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]

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anyone tried NVRAM simulation of hard drives

by mranalog＠attbi.com

Ethan wrote: > If I were more comfortable with FPGA/CPLD design, I would probably go > that route. My expertise is more in microprocessors; I was contemplating > throwing an MC68000 on the other end of the bus.......................... > I was thinking of recycling the COMBOARD design - 1/4 of the memory > map is "shared memory" - there is a circuit between the 68000 and > the host bus that initiates DMA cycles when the 68000 reads/writes > to it. I have used a COMBOARD to test the RAM in a PDP-11/03 via > this shared memory interface. I got a 4 Mpixel camera for Christmas that came with a 16 Mbyte Compact Flash Card. After Christmas I picked up a 64 Mbyte CFC to use with the camera just so I would have the storage for about 50 pictures instead of just 12. I also picked up a Dazzle USB Compact Flash Card Reader/Writer for $20 for my sneaker net needs. So now when I'm around computers I carry the CFC reader and the CD with the USB drivers and I basically have a removable hard drive that I can carry in my pocket. So now I'm thinking about how hard it would be to create a cartridge for say - the C64 that has a USB port and an EPROM on it. The EPROM would have routines that wedge into the Kernal disk routines on boot. (And of course they would bypassing the serial routines) Plus routines to translate disk commands to read and write files. Imagine a hot swapable 512 MB hard drive on the C64 with an access time of RAM. Regards, --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward @ home in Poulsbo, WA Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog =========================================

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FW from Usenet: S-100 modem wanted

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Perhaps someone on the list can help this fellow? Found in one of the ham radio groups on Usenet. Please respond directly to the original message author. I am not them. They are not me. I'm one of The Other Guys instead. ;-) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From: "Alan" <adiaz224(a)earthlink.net> Newsgroups: alt.ham-radio.marketplace, rec.ham-radio.swap, rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors, rec.radio.amateur.equipment, rec.radio.amateur.homebrew NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.118.202.3 Subject: WTB: 300 BAUD S-100 bus modem I'm looking for any brand of S-100 bus modem, circa 1970'ish. If you have one, send me an email. Thanks. Alan -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

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Chip Upgrades for 11/23 (was Re: 11/03 system on eBay sold)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 3, 0:20, Megan wrote: > Yes, the 11/23 and 11/23+ use the same chips. The 11/24 and PRO300 > series also use the DCF11 chip. I don't know if they also use the > memory management chip... The 11/24 does, but I've no idea about the Pro. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Old Computer Companies

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 2/2/03 3:15:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, ETILLMAN(a)satx.rr.com writes: > > I did have the opportunity to meet Gene Amdahl...what a nice guy (btw he > > did tell me he is a Mac user)...I asked for (and got) an autographed > > copy of his picture. What ever happened to Andor (his last company) and > > what were they trying to build? > I bought the remainders of the test wafers from Gene Amdahl's Elixi company in its failure in the mid 1980s. This was where he tried to put a mainframe on a 6" wafer. It was a failure, pushing the limits of LSI technology at the time. I went to their final auction in 1989. In the lobby of the building was Gene Amdahl's first computer, not for sale. It was very interesting. I wonder where it is now? It was destined to be saved. Paxton Hoag Astoria, OR

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Columbia

by micheladam＠theedge.ca

I'll venture this guess: Concorde Only one loss of craft and passengers & crew. Statisticaly, measured in passenger/kilometers flown, it went from one of the best safety record to one of the worse, since there are so few of the planes... Michel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey S. Worley" <Technoid(a)30below.com> Date: Sunday, February 2, 2003 11:27 pm Subject: RE: Columbia > Maybe, but then again the plane is like an Italian rifle. Fired once, > dropped once. It is practically unused. I visited the museum > where it > is stored along with the QE? > > It is a really really big plane. I've flown on a C5A and it was > biggerstill (or so it seemed). > > Regards, > > Jeff > > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org] > On Behalf Of Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:26 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: Columbia > > > claim. (Noogies for the person who can name the *1* airliner that > comes > > closest to beating this record...) > > Howard Hughe's "Spruce Goose" has NEVER crashed.

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OT: Anyone in/near Cambridge, MA; Kansas City, KS; or Detroit, MI looking for IT work?

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

I would like to share in my recent good fortune with folks on the list (and pick up a referral bonus, naturally ;-) by attempting to hook people up with internal job postings. Write me off-list (erd_6502(a)yahoo.com) and tell me where you are at (from the above list of Cambridge, Kansas City or Detroit) and I'll send back job decriptions for those locations. Unfortunately, not much looks like ClassicCmp-type stuff (except the Mac Software Engr position in Cambridge), but we all gotta have current skills to keep on the treadmill. If you don't live within commuting distance of the above places, please don't write and ask me what's available - The openings for tech types are where I've described. Enjoy, -ethan

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HP 5423A analyzer

by jwest＠imail.kwcorp.com

I just receive an HP 5423A Structural Dynamics Analyzer. I have no interest in it, but being curious, what the heck is it used for?? From googling I get the impression it does fourier modal testing? Jay "Idly curious" West --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

23 years, 3 months

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In a previous life the mircomputers I used to sell were the...

by vze2wsvr＠verizon.net

New: Sol-20 Commodore PET Atari 400 Atari 800 Used: IBM XT IBM AT various 286s various 486s Pentiums Mac IIs Please add to the list your personal experience of computers sales. If you didn't sell it don't add it. Eric

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PDP-8: (and others) anyone tried NVRAM simulation of hard drives?

by djg＠drs-esg.com

>> From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> > >That was one of my options. Any ideas about what to use for the >cabling? > If you are keeping it short ribbon cable should work fine. If you were running longer cables for multiple devices it might not be the best. >What would you estimate the entire harness to run? $100? > I think you need 10 or 11 boards which the cheapest was about $7 so it could be done for that. The cable connection will be tricky on the cheap extender card. The grid card would be the best but most expensive. >I was thinking of recycling the COMBOARD design - 1/4 of the memory >map is "shared memory" - there is a circuit between the 68000 and >the host bus that initiates DMA cycles when the 68000 reads/writes >to it. I have used a COMBOARD to test the RAM in a PDP-11/03 via >this shared memory interface. > Don't know if the 68000 has a fast enough clock to see the pulses or it will need a little hardware assist. As long as you don't mind your peripheral being brighter than the computer it should be viable. From: Bob Shannon <bshannon(a)tiac.net> > >I beleive that Al got a few (one or two?) Augat wire-wrap quad DEC >modules along with the CADR >hardware. There was at least one quad unibus Chaos net interface board. >But I have no idea of what an omnibus interface looks like electrically. > Is this a painful thing to build? > Omnibus timing is a little strange but not that hard to work with. It is similar to the 8/I external bus which is a daisy chained bus with 10 or 11 cables for full version.

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Pulse Ada OS

by enrico.badella＠softstar.it

> On 2003.02.02 02:43 Adrian Vickers wrote: > > PULSE. The development was apparently done on the VAX, and > cross-compiled for the PDP-11/23. The book in question is "PULSE: An > Ada-based Distributed Operating System". I have the book, bought it many years ago. Anybody know it PULSE is available somewhere? A quick google di not reveal any source. Would be probably a nice toy for an 11 ;-) cheers e. -- /|_ .-------------------------. ,' .\ / | Looking for PDP, and VAX| ,--' _,' | hardware and DEC-10 docs| / / `-------------------------' ( -. | | ) | (`-. '--.) `. )----'

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Ada (was Re: Columbia)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 2, 7:29, Zane H. Healy wrote: > PULSE. The development was apparently done on the VAX, and > cross-compiled for the PDP-11/23. The book in question is "PULSE: An > Ada-based Distributed Operating System". Ian Wand has just retired from Computer Science at York, but Andy Wellings is still there. I'll ask Andy about that... CompSci had Vaxen and unibus 11's (I've got one of them), but I didn't know they ever had any small QBus machines. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Emulex QD 211

by Innfogra＠aol.com

A quick Google search nor looking through Emulex's site was I able to find out what this card is? The actual number is QD2110202-00 rev L. From the connectors it is either ESDI or a MFM hard disk controller for Qbus but I am not sure which. Pictures at http://members.aol.com/innfosale/ebay/QD211E1A.JPG http://members.aol.com/innfosale/ebay/QD211E1B.JPG Thanks, Paxton Astoria, OR

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11/03 system on eBay sold

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> >I've been wondering, ever since I got it a few years ago, what my > >PDT-11/150 would go for on eBay. > > Same here... I've got a few with the EIS/FIS chip in them, maybe > that qualifies them for 'L@@K, R@RE' :-) > > Megan Just being a PDT-11/150 qualifies them as 'L@@K, R@RE' :^) Having the EIS/FIS chip should qualify them as 'L@@K, ULTR@ R@RE'. I'm assuming that unlike me, you've also got software that will run on them. The trick would be to come up with software and doc's, and include 'screenshots' of it booting up. Including a terminal would be icing on the cake. I'm guessing such a setup would either go for a frightening amount, or nothing. Zane

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Space Shuttle Disaster

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

I believe that the Colombia had recently been totally refurbished stem to stern... New Avionics, new wiring, crew compartment, the works... NASA is trying to upgrade and extend the life of the Shuttle fleet rather than pushing for a replacement. I think it's time an X Program or two were undertaken to create an SSTO replacement for the shuttle. Check out Jerry Pournelle's Site http://www.jerrypournelle.com (and if you like it, please become a member... Let's encourage good work like his..), for some cogent discussions of this issue... All sorts of wacky stuff is flying around about the cause. Someone sent me an e-mail about a terrorist with a laser weapon... Geez! What bugs me about it, beyond the obvious... Is that Islamic Extremests will take this disaster and interpret it to mean that God has spoken against the U.S. and Israel, and that this disaster is an omen. Let's wait and see, but I'm sure many in that crowd were jumping with glee over this, and taking this as a sign that "Allah" was on their side. A sad interpretation of a Sadder event. I'd like to see Burt Rutan on an X Project to develop a replacement for the shuttle. I'd bet if anyone could do it, he could get something cheaper and better developed in a few years easily... And the temporary solution is to build a few more new shuttles and ground the older ones. It's obvious to me, that age and metal stress played some part in this disaster, and it's probably better to ground the current fleet and fly all new machines until replacements can be designed, tested and built... Al

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DEC cable sought

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Hi all, Does anyone have one or two DEC BC09J cables they'd be willing to part with? If so, pse contact me off-list.. thanks! --fred

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looking for a COMPUTE! issue

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

I'm looking for a COMPUTE! (not Gazette) issue, dating around '84-'85 (I think). I recall the cover clearly; it had Miami Ice on it, and inside was Looking Glass, a useful little Commodore windowing utility. If someone has this magazine and would be willing to part with it, please contact me off list. Thank you! -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- Stand by to launch beef by-product into oscillating ventilation unit ... ---

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Looking for a SOL

by awt＠io.com

The first computer that want crazy over was a SOL. It was an S-100 based console that used a DUAL cassette interface. Super. Never could afford one but I did get the original MSA (Microsoft) basic on cassette just in case. I would love to get one now just for nostalgia. If anyone should come across one let me know. awt(a)io.com

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Columbia, RoadRunner : please stop !

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

All, Although I, like everyone else, am sad about what has happened, I would like to ask that we go back to ClassiComp related issues here. I've been hitting the >D< key a little too often the past few days. Thanks, Fred

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Old Computer Companies

by jwillis＠arielusa.com

Someone mentioned C3 the other day. That translates to Convergent Technologies. I thing Burroughs bought them in the late 80's. I cut my teeth on C3 gear. At age 8 I was an expert at crashing the Coast Guard mini in Saulte Ste. Marie, Michigan. Regards, Jeff -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Brian Chase Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:56 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Old Computer Companies On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 vance(a)neurotica.com wrote: > I'm trying to think of all the really old computer companies that are > still in business. GE and Honeywell no longer make computers. DEC and DG > are gone. So there's HP, IBM, Bull... are there any others left from > way-back-when? Oh yeah, there's Siemens. And Amdahl's part of Fujitsu > now. Do they still count? I guess Fujitsu probably counts on its own > merits. Hitachi and Toshiba left the industry recently, after many years. > And then there's Unisys, with their recent turn to weird hybrid systems. > Did I miss anyone? Sure... SGI and Sun. -brian. My linux box is a DataGeneral 486 [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]

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Expect to see fewer hard drives.

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Jeffrey S. Worley <Technoid(a)30below.com> wrote: > I bought a Sun Sparcstation 4/330 a few years ago. It's hdd was intact > and after breaking the password file [...] Why did you need to do that? Why couldn't you just boot single-user from the ROM and get a root shell? MS

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OT: RoadRunner Blacklisted, Blocking Bounce Messages! (Michael Sokolov)

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

loedman1(a)juno.com wrote: > Please provide a valid address so we may do so. Since I use Classic Computers for my mail and honestly follow the original standards of the Founding Fathers of ARPANET without any obfuscation or other desecration, the only address I have is the valid one, and it appears in the From: header of every message I send. MS

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OT: RoadRunner Blacklisted, Blocking Bounce Messages! (Michael Sokolov)

by loedman1＠juno.com

>The class action suit should of course be against the blockers. We really need >a law that guarantees penalties for spamblockers 10 times greater than those >for spammers. If you send spam, you get 1 year in prison. If you assault an >open relay operator, mangle E-mail addresses, or do anything else to desecrate >the Classic Computing tradition, you should get 10 years in prison. If a >spammer gets 5 years in prison, spamblockers must get 50 years. Excuse me ? Perhaps we should all forward all of our spam, porn and otherwise, to you. Please provide a valid address so we may do so. Rich Stephenson California

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Sierra Adventure Games

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Also, that he was a school teacher is not that surprising. Ron Jeremy, >who is a big, ugly, hairy porn star that has been in the business for >probably over two decades now and has started to spill over into >mainstream TV (usually in comedic roles) used to be a high school teacher. He also won a Mr. Universe contest or one of similar name, don't recall the exact one, but it was one of those male beauty pagent things. Of course that was LONG before his porn career and presumably while he was in better shape. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Columbia

by cb＠mythtech.net

>(Noogies for the person who can name the *1* airliner that comes >closest to beating this record...) Quantas? (based entirely off "Rain Man" making the claim that Quantas has never had a crash) :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Sierra Adventure Games

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Speaking of, does anyone remember the Artworx Strip Poker games? They >were available in the beginning for Apple II, PC, Commodore 64, and Atari, >but the later games were available only for PC. I really liked those >games. Yup, I have a copy for the Apple II. But I only have the one disk, so I only have the two girls that come with it. I never found other disks, but I seem to recall an option to insert disks of other girls. I also remember being a horny kid and taking photos of the screen after I beat the girls. Then forgot about it, sent the film in to be developed. I picked it up one afternoon with my father, and the guy at the lab said there was no charge because none of the pictures came out. My father and I sat in the car looking at the negatives trying to figure out what they were, when I realized what it was I was looking at and freaked. Nothing like trying to convince your father to stop analyzing them before he too figures out what it is he is looking at. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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OT: RoadRunner Blacklisted, Blocking Bounce Messages!

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Bill Richman <bill(a)timeguy.com> wrote: > RoadRunner's response was to fix the > open relay and get delisted, right? Nope. Their response was to state > that they "don't negotiate with blacklists" and promptly _blocked_ all > mail from dsbl.org to RoadRunner users. I side with and fully support RoadRunner. Open relays are a very important Classic Computing feature, and every true ClassicCmper must support them. > I'm about ready to start a class action suit, although > they probably have something in the fine print that prevents that. GRRR! The class action suit should of course be against the blockers. We really need a law that guarantees penalties for spamblockers 10 times greater than those for spammers. If you send spam, you get 1 year in prison. If you assault an open relay operator, mangle E-mail addresses, or do anything else to desecrate the Classic Computing tradition, you should get 10 years in prison. If a spammer gets 5 years in prison, spamblockers must get 50 years. -- Michael Sokolov Programletarian Freedom Fighter International Free Computing Task Force Let the Source be with you Programletarians of the world, unite!

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aviion 4000 info

by paulm064＠icqmail.com

I recently aquired a Data General 4000 series server . It appears to be complete (except for keyboard ,mouse and manuals as usual) ;however, before i give it juice would like to confirm its condition. Can anyone help me with manuals or point me towards downloadable manuals (any thing that would be useful). Internet search returned very little info. thanks

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Digital DNAS CD request & CD list

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Adrian, Jesus! Nice collection! ;) You're no doubt going to be swamped with "me too!" requests, but.. are you willing to make copies available? I am doing a major DEC software repository here, to which people have access (on an ask- first basis, legal issues and such..) so it doesnt get lost. Space is not an issue (the current array is 5x180G) and neither is bandwidth. If we can work something out (like you making ISO image copies of the CD, and making TDF dumps of the tapes) we can either ftp them over, or i can pay for you shipping a tape with em... Thanks, Fred > -----Original Message----- > From: Witchy [mailto:witchy@binarydinosaurs.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:34 PM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Digital DNAS CD request & CD list > > > Hi folks, > > Been having a good look round for my DNAS 2.2 CD and I'm > pretty sure it's > currently out on loan with an ex-colleague so I'm checking > and will let you > all know when it turns up. I found its box but what use is that :) > > While I was rooting through my boxes of stuff I found a lot > of CDs and tapes > I'd forgotten about that might be useful in the future so > here's a quick > list: (from memory) > > CDs: > InfoserverVXT > Infoserver 1000 > Infoserver Disk & Tape access > VXT Host software (VAX) > OpenVMS AXP V1.0 > OpenVMS AXP V1.5 > OpenVMS AXP V6.1 > OSF/1 T1.0 is in there somewhere; need to dig that one out too. > OSF/1 V1.3 > Alpha firmware updates from about v2.x up to 5.x (on floppy too) > Ultrix 4.2 VAX and RISC > Ultrix Layered Products, 1994? > OpenVMS Freeware from 1.0 to 5.0 > OpenVMS Internet Product Suite 1.1 > All versions of OpenVMS from 5.5 to 7.3, VAX and Alpha > Digital UNIX V3.2 > Digital UNIX Layered Products > Tru64 V4.0D and 4.0G > Tru64 Layered Products > VMS Layered Product sets from around Sep 1992 up to > 1999/2000, also current > LPs, VAX and Alpha (many boxes!) > > Tapes (TK50): > VMS 5.0 > VMS 5.2 > VMS 5.3 > VMS 5.3-1 > VMS 5.4 > VMS 5.4-2 + MUP > VMS 5.4-3 > VMS 5.5-2H4 + MUP > plus there's some I remember picking up that must be in another box I > haven't found yet, like VMS 5.5, VMS 5.0-1, VMS 5.0-2, Dibol > 4.2, DECwindows > etc. > MVII Diagnostics > Bootable PDP11/73 tape, probably RT/11 V5.4 & CTS300 V8.2 > > Yes, I'm a hoarder :o) > > -- > adrian/witchy > www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum > www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans

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Cool external FD by Nintendo

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Today at the thrift I found a red case/black face/yellow button external 3.5 FD by Nintendo model HVC-022. Most of the writing on it is in Japanese. It was missing the ac adapter and cable. Copyright date on it is 1985. Anyone else have one of these?

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In a previous life the mircomputers I used to sell were the...

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jan 30, 20:44, Eric Chomko wrote: > > Please add to the list your personal experience of computers sales. > If you didn't sell it don't add it. Sales: BBC Microcomputer Model A,B Torch Z80 etc Acorn Econet systems Acorn Cambridge Workstation BBC Master Series Acorn Archimedes Acorn R140, R260 Microvitec monitors Repairs etc: Commodore PET 2001...4032 Apple ][, ][+, //e Exidy Sorcerer Acorn/BBC systems Acorn/SJ Econet systems Amstrad CPC range Apricot PC...Xen-i Sony Word Processor DEC PDP-11 (QBus systems) ACT Sirius Microvitec monitors Epson printers Sinclair ZX81/Spectrum/QL and probably lots of machines and peripherals I've forgotten about. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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OT: Roadrunner Blacklisted, Blocking Bounce Messages! From: Bill Richman

by loedman1＠juno.com

>RoadRunner Nebraska - nebr.rr.com). RoadRunner's response was to fix the >open relay and get delisted, right? Nope. Their response was to state >that they "don't negotiate with blacklists" and promptly _blocked_ all Good old Roadrunner, the source of some of the most annoying pornographic spam in my Inbox, Sally and the Saint Bernard, Sex with my Mom and so on. Complaints are ignored and the deluge of crap continues Rich Stephenson California

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Ada (was Re: Columbia)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 1, 16:24, Zane H. Healy wrote: > Excuse me? The GNAT development environment is very much available > on Windows. I've been tempted to install it on Windows as there is > a very nice looking IDE (I believe done by the Air Force) that is > freely available for Windows. Indeed, Computer Science at York does quite a lot of teaching in Ada on Windows. I don't know if they still do, but they used to let students in practical classes use either Linux or Windows, because Ada was one of the few things that works exactly hte same under either -- except, in our setup, for network bandwidth. The Ada classes (using Windows) were responsible for my having to upgrade the classroom links. > One thing about Ada that I found rather interesting was mention of an > OS written in Great Britain in the early 80's. It was written in Ada > and ran on the PDP-11. Probably written by CompSci staff at York. They certainly wrote a compiler and an environment to support it. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Any Amiga users on this list?

by knightstalkerbob＠netscape.net

"TeoZ" <teoz(a)neo.rr.com> wrote: >Hi, > >Anybody here using Amiga 500's? > Yes, I have two of them, both still operational. -- Bob Mason 2x Amiga 500's, GVP A530 (40mhz 68030/68882, 8meg Fast, SCSI), 1.3/3.1, 2meg Chip, full ECS chipset, EZ135, 1084S, big harddrives, 2.2xCD Gateway Performance 500 Piece 'o Crap, 'ME, 128meg, 20Gig & 40Gig, flatbed. Heathkit H-89A, 64K RAM, hard and soft-sectored floppies, SigmaSoft and Systems 256K RAM Drive/Print Spooler/Graphics board HDOS 2 & CP/M 2.2.03/2.2.04

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Expect to see fewer hard drives.

by mikeford＠socal.rr.com

>Over two years, Simson Garfinkel and Abhi Shelat bought 158 used hard drives >at secondhand computer stores and on eBay. Of the 129 drives that >functioned, 69 still had recoverable files on them and 49 contained >"significant personal information" - medical correspondence, love letters, >pornography and 5,000 credit card numbers. One even had a year's worth of >transactions with account numbers from a cash machine in Illinois. " First old PC I ever bought was from I think PCmall, they had just moved to a new building and gave all their people new computers, and sold the old one from a couple pallets in the outlet store. The sign said no hard drives and no memory, but the guy at the counter said that "some" might still have them. The one I bought had a couple years of client and vendor billing data. I have SE/30 from a county psych center complete with all the ready to print forms and a bunch of patient histories. Many small scrappers promise whatever and then sell to whoever has the top dollar. Or worse they are honest and won't sell to me. ;( Wow do I hate walking into ta place and seeing tasty hard drives etc. getting drilled etc. I don't see it as getting to be a real serious problem for us though, since its pretty costly to scrap old computers "by the book". Much easier to tell Joe in the warehouse to get rid of the old stuff, and he calls some scrapper who slips him a few bucks and huals everything away on the spot.

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hp 9836 system software?

by kurt＠ees1s0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu

Dear cctalk people, I recently got my hands on a HP 9836CU with monitor and HP-IB hard disk. Upon power-up, the machine behaves similarly to Stan's post of Thu, 23 Jan 2003, where his 9836 gave him this: . > Flexible Disc > Flexible Disc Failed and he heard this: . > After the POST, but before the 9836C looks for an OS to load, it emits a > series of high and low pitched beeps (low, low, high, low, high, high, > low). But my 9836CU does not boot. The lights on the front of the HP-IB disk flash when the machine goes through POST an tries to boot, but the disk does not seem to be spinning and I don't hear heads moving. I don't know whether the hard disk works nor do I have any floppies, bootable or otherwise. Does anyone have any floppies that can be used to boot the a HP 9836CU? Other system software? Documentation? thanks, -kurt

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DEC still strong in government / academia

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Just got my UC Irvine student applicant 2003-04 financial aid paperwork. The picture in the booklet of a student getting his education shows a little Asian- looking guy in front of... a DEC workstation!!! The keyboard has an unmistakable, so dear and familiar to me LK201 or successor layout, the screen with some graphics (of unidentifiable nature) has the authentic look of a DEC monitor (even the d|i|g|i|t|a|l logo can be made out), and DEC-looking boxes (I guess external CD-ROM drives) can be seen in the back. The whole thing displays perfect harmony in DEC colors. (Can't tell, though, whether the workstation is a VAX, MIPS, or Alpha, except that I can see it sitting under the monitor.) When I was registering my company in the San Diego County Clerk's office in June of last year (that's the same place where couples tie the knot on this side of the pond) I was similarly delighted to see all the clerks typing on DEC terminals, with DECconnect cables running around the office. And a few years ago when I was still watching TV (happily living without a TV for 2.5 years now) there was a program asking people to donate blood. They showed footage of the process and my eyes were immediately caught by a VT220. But unfortunately most libraries, a former stronghold of VMS-based catalog servers and public DEC VT terminals, have now been lost to pee-sea-fication. MS

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hp 9836 system software?

by kurt＠ees1s0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu

Dear cctalk people, I recently got my hands on a HP 9836CU with monitor and HP-IB hard disk. Upon power-up, the machine behaves similarly to Stan's post of Thu, 23 Jan 2003, where his 9836 gave him this: . > Flexible Disc > Flexible Disc Failed and he heard this: . > After the POST, but before the 9836C looks for an OS to load, it emits a > series of high and low pitched beeps (low, low, high, low, high, high, > low). But my 9836CU does not boot. The lights on the front of the HP-IB disk flash when the machine goes through POST an tries to boot, but the disk does not seem to be spinning and I don't hear heads moving. I don't know whether the hard disk works nor do I have any floppies, bootable or otherwise. Does anyone have any floppies that can be used to boot the a HP 9836CU? Other system software? Documentation? thanks, -kurt

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IBM floppy

by mhstein＠canada.com

I apologize for this being way within the 10 years, but there's such a wealth of knowledge & experience on this list I just had to ask: I've got an IBM Ambra 6300 08E here that came without a floppy drive (just an HD & CD-ROM), which makes it very awkward to run diagnostics, install drivers, etc. Does anybody know how to add a 3.5 floppy? I've tried a Panasonic & a Sony, the normal way, drive 1 with the twist, and also drive 0 without, but no luck. Any ideas? Thanks for any help, and sorry for the OT. mike

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Another apology

by mhstein＠canada.com

------Original Message-------------- From: "Ernest" <ernestls(a)attbi.com> Subject: RE: Another apology Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 20:05:10 -0800 > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]On > Behalf Of M H Stein > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 5:01 AM > To: 'ClassicComputers' > Subject: Another apology > > > To everyone who's waiting to hear from me > about stuff I've offered, another apology! > Been awfully busy with work & health matters > and haven't had time to look at things in > detail, but you'll all hear from me Real > Soon Now... > > mike in Toronto No problem. How do we get a hold of you via email? Your old account isn't working anymore. ---------------------------------- Hi Ernest: Address is mhstein at canada dot com; don't know why it's not in your original message, it is in my copy of the digest. The Apple clone's still on the shelf with your name on it in indelible black marker :); sorry I dropped the ball. Decided not to keep the bio-feedback H/W & S/W, so I'll throw it in; it also has an 80 col card AFAIK. Write me off-list & we'll work out a reasonable price. Thanks for your patience & understanding, although the longer it sits, the more valuable an antique it becomes, right? :) mike

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WPD

by JimGSherlock＠aol.com

Similar - I am trying to find a converter or reader for .WPD file (PFS WinWorks Word files Any help appreciated Cheers Jim

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Old Commodore Model 202 adding machine

by fernande＠internet1.net

Hey all, I just saw an old Commodore adding machine, model 202, or something similar, at one of the local Goodwill outlets. It was cheap, but I have no interest in it myself. Do I need to go back tomorrow and pick it up >from someone???? This is something I haven't seem before, and I don't want to pass it up if someone else really wants it. I'll do this for about $5.00 over my cost. I think the thing was labeled at $1.99, or something similar. Shipping will probably be the biggest cost, if I pack it well. Chad Fernandez Michigan, USA

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Model 100 DVI drive

by mhstein＠canada.com

--------------------Original Messages-------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:03:19 -0800 (PST) From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> Subject: Re: Model 100 DVI drive On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, M H Stein wrote: > Hi Rich: > I can't answer your question, but I do have a DVI and the manual and s/w, > if that can help you in any way. It runs CP/M IIRC. > And if anybody's interested, make me an offer... > mike in Toronto, Can. Could you check the manual, and confirm that it runs CP/M? All of the ones that we've ever seen ran a unique OS, with a directory structure based on the Microsoft stand-alone-BASIC. A CP/M for it would significantly increase the desirability of it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, as I've mentioned here previously, I have some serious problems with my memory, so my recollection is probably faulty, and I'm certainly not about to argue with you, Fred. Alas, another aspect of this memory problem is that I can't remember where a lot of stuff is any more (although that's always been a problem :), so I haven't been able to find the manual yet. I have found the DVI & boot diskette though, and after a half hour search, the 100 and its user and tech manuals but, alas, not the 100>DVI cable. If & when I find either the DVI manual or the cable, I'll check it out & let you know, but you're probably right. mike

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IBM System/3 owners

by FrankButash＠email.msn.com

Greetings, I am interesting in finding used IBM System 3x computers for sale. Can you direct me to any sites or organizations? Thanks, Frank Butash 860-232-7173 Fax: 860-232-3037

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Teletype machine

by gkbrown＠gwi.net

Hi Gil: I was wondering if you were in the market for another M14-TD. I aquired one the other day. It is all there but quite dusty. I did find some info on it on the web but all the ones I saw were grey. This one is black. I can take a few pictures and send them to you. Any Idea what the age is on this beast. By the way, I have also got to go back this spring and pick up a bunch of other teletype stuff, such as the consol and related items. Regards Gary...WZ1M

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Bee 3 Emulator

by setni＠eunet.yu

I am looking for emulator for Beehive Bee 3 Computer Terminal. Best regards.

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OT: Location and GPS

by truthanl＠oclc.org

I boat, therefore I follow navigation aids and GPS service interruptions at : http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/gps/default.htm There is an Active Notice for Cape Canaveral Area: Cape Canaveral, FL - AFSPC 2002-236 For the Aviation Community 5 NM RADIUS OF N2828/W0835 (ORL100/042) FROM THE SURFACE UP TO FL250. REMARKS; INTERMITTENT DATES AND TIME; 14 DAYS ADVANCE NOTICE WILL BE GIVEN PRIOR TO EACH EVENT. IFR OPERATIONS BASED ON GPS NAVIGATION SHOULD NOT BE PLANNED IN THE AFFECTED AREAS DURING THE PERIODS INDICATED. THESE OPERATIONS INCLUDE DOMESTIC RNAV OR LONG-RANGE NAVIGATION REQUIRING GPS. THESE OPERATIONS ALSO INCLUDE GPS STANDALONE AND OVERLAY INSTRUMENT APPROACH OPERATIONS. ON THE FOLLOWING DATES AND TIMES: REMARKS; INTERMITTENT DATES AND TIME; 14 DAYS ADVANCE NOTICE WILL BE GIVEN PRIOR TO EACH EVENT. Last Updated: 2002-12-23 It also Looks like they'll be testing A New Digital GPS beacon "build out" at Angleton TX next week. I have no idea if thats a correction beacon affecting Florida. Sincerely Larry Truthan

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