- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by khaleeqkg＠yahoo.com

Dear Mc Manis or his Representative We are a small group of student, who were running VAX-3300 Computer System, for our research project. Unfortunately the System has gone out of order. We are in need of VAX-3300 System to retrieve our data archived on TK-70 Tape Cartridge. I have seen your site where from VAX Junks is available. Micro VAX 3300 (Including SCSI Controller, RAM more Than16MB, Hard Disk 1GB nor greater and KFQSA DSSI card worth less than $50. We do not require KFQSA DSSI card. However following Hardware/Software is also required to us: 1. Hard Disk RF-30 and RF-31 2. Controller Card for TK-70 Tape Drive (M7559), 3. Interface Card (M7651) 4. Diagnostic Software on TK-70 Tape Cartridge 5. If you have all or some of these items please inform me about the availability along with their cost. We will arrange the shipping and handling for the items. Your early response would be highly appreciable. Thanking you. Regards Khaleeq khaleeq(a)yahoo.com

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looking for MFM RLL Drives

by compcyz＠fbx.com

Hello, I have many MFM Drives. Not all tested yet but can. What are they worth. I saw an old st225 just sell on ebay for 20 bucks or so + shipping. Make me an offer or what for trade ect. Oh by the way any body have HDFORMAT.EXE for PCTECH X16B 80186 IBM XT clone motherboard with 5380 SCSI controller built in. Leading to SMS Omti 5400 SCSI to MFM adapter board connected to ST225 5.25 MFM Drive That won't read side 4. Could boot floppy and read Directory to find file names in utility subdir. Need program to low level format MFM on SCSI interface. Bios won't detect modern SCSI drives. Tried emailing one of designers (written on board) now works at micron tech. (evolved name of Co.) But no reply. Cy Van D. in Iowa compcyz(a)fbx.com

23 years, 3 months

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Please help me ID cards(32)

by fyodonis＠bellsouth.net

Headley: I don't know if you still have this stuff, but I was the engineer who was involved in the design of the MegaScan A33400(ITF-3102) VME Interface. Please let me know if you still have this and if you still need help answering any questions. Regards, Frank [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]

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HP2000

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

That would be very cool and appreciated if someone put the time into creating such a doc. I have a 2117F and a 2113E that aren't doing much now that I would like to get doing something more interesting at some point. Last fall I saw some scrap HP 1000 systems which I believe had the parts to connect them in a two CPU pair. If I knew more about how to make use of such a configuration I would consider trying to acquire that hardware. >From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> > >Perhaps Eric and I (and any other interested parties) should get together >and create a document like "So, you want to run HP TSB?". We could get >definitive answers to exactly what pieces/parts are required, put in some >comparisons between the different versions, etc. Kind of a road map to help >people get these systems running. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 3 months

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Assembly on a Apple IIc+

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

What do I need to get started with 6502 Assembly on an apple II? --- I have: 6502 Machine code reference Apple IIc+ Prodos Dos 3.3 --- Things I know I need to know: What call prints a character? What call gets input of some kind (preferably 1 key at a time) Any calls to clear the screen? Any calls to position the cursor? --- Things I know I need to get: Assembler Editor I don't as yet know how to get things from the web to my Apple II, I use a Mac mostly to surf Thanks for the help....

23 years, 3 months

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Old Computer Companies

by vance＠neurotica.com

I'm trying to think of all the really old computer companies that are still in business. GE and Honeywell no longer make computers. DEC and DG are gone. So there's HP, IBM, Bull... are there any others left from way-back-when? Oh yeah, there's Siemens. And Amdahl's part of Fujitsu now. Do they still count? I guess Fujitsu probably counts on its own merits. Hitachi and Toshiba left the industry recently, after many years. And then there's Unisys, with their recent turn to weird hybrid systems. Did I miss anyone? Peace... Sridhar

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OT Need parts

by jrice54＠charter.net

I need one of the beige plastic headed screws that secure the side cover on a Dell Dimension case. The is for my UMAX S900 that shares a PaloAlto Design case with the earlier Dell Dimensions. I also need two blank drive filler panels for a HP NetServer LC II. James -- http://webpages.charter.net/jrice54/classiccomp2.html

23 years, 3 months

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OT Avalanches (was: Columbia)

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

>When I was a kid, I tried and tried to make an igloo of packed cubes of >snow. I never could get one finished as once the walls started to curve >I couldn't get the layers to stick long enough to close the thing up and >complete it. An igloo is a very stable structure, but a half-finished >one isn't at all stable... I have a feeling that in survival situations you don't make an igloo, but a tunnel that you lay down in. Dig a trench into the snow first, then you just use a few blocks above surface level to make the roof. Pack snow on top of that to seal the gaps. One end is sealed, then after reversing in you use your pack to seal the entrance up beind you. The other alternative is to dig a tunnel. You make it T-shaped for some reason that currently eludes me; the entrance is at the lowest point of the T and you lay across the 'arms'. Biggest problem if you're sheltering is making sure that someone can find you - using the pack to seal the doorway off goes a long way to achieving that but overnight snowfall could still hinder the rescuers. cheers Jules Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

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VAXELN HELP!! needed

by hofmanwb＠worldonline.nl

Hi All, VAXELN is new to me, but I am reasonably at home in the internals of RSX11M, MTS and OS 360. I was called in by the application programmer when he encountered a somewhat deep problem. One or two times a month in the 3rd of three RT1000 running V4.0 of VAXELN the two communications tasks with the microVax 3300 running VMS 5.2 stop. One with access violation, reason mask 05 and one with access violation or with a kernel stack not valid exception. These tasks are identical and each serves its own sorting unit. The VAXELN systems use the DDCMP_V2 module. The systems run continuously. The stop address is for both tasks always in the DAP module (from june 7 1989) at 1FFC from the start It looks as if the FP register contains 0 during the last CLRB -4C4(FP) intruction.I conclude this from the virtual address =FFFFFB3C message.. The system stopped at the same location during startup earlier in the project each time when the 3rd realtime vax was started, but then:maximum links was 32 and maximum circuits was16. This error disappeared when these quantities were doubled to maximum links=64 and maximum circuits=32. The earlier values were ok during the years when only two realtime vaxes were active.and with 2 realtime vaxes these crashes were not noticed. The realtime vaxes all have the remote debugger. The installation is 140 km >from my home. It looks as if register information is hard to get at. Suggestions? Has anyone encountered a similar error? Who has suggestions?. When this gets highly detailed contact off list might be best. Any help will be greatly appreciated! Wim

23 years, 3 months

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WANTED: RA7x Enclosure/Operator Ctrl. Panel

by jwillis＠arielusa.com

Wanted: RA7x Enclosure/Operator Ctrl. Panel

23 years, 3 months

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Looking for source of MFM or RLL drives

by CCTalk＠catcorner.org

Yes, the OS allows entering of drive geometry. Actually only supports MFM up to 70Meg. RLL drives will of course work, just not to RLL capacity. I'm looking for the largest drives I can find. From: Ethan Dicks --- Kelly Leavitt <CCTalk(a)catcorner.org> wrote: > Any good sources of MFM or RLL drives. This would be for a Tandy 6000 > running Xenix. > > I'm looking for 70 Meg or higher MFM (110 RLL capacity). Hmm... those aren't so common (in the DEC world, there are two choices - the RD53 (Miniscribe 1325) and the RD54 (Maxtor XT2190). I take it you aren't constrained by a narrow set of expected geometries? (i.e. - you have a running system and/or the install procedure asks you about the drive rather than assuming?) -ethan

23 years, 3 months

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Burroughs

by moored＠student.charleshays.net

Hi folks , >And, while we're asking, does anyone know what happened to Burroughs? >The Burroughs corporation eventually merged with Sperry Univac and got >absorbed into Unisys > > I've been lurking for a while , have a few old box's about but the ones i'm curious to know the rareity of are 3 Burroughs desktop type units from early 80's they are all 3 different models one newer 85 maybe , I'd have to dig them out and check the model numbers if need be , they all run the "B-20" operating system and booted and ran the last time they were plugged in (one is a smart terminal type ala net boot) . On a couple occasions i've searched all over the net for information and found very little other than the company history stored at the Babbage institute . Are these things as odd as I think they are or has info and availability just managed to elude me ? Thanks for your time Dean.

23 years, 3 months

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Interesting technique for removing tape discovered

by vcf＠siconic.com

Someone sent me an unassembled Ohio Scientific Superboard II kit in its original box the other day. Unfortunately, they didn't put the original box inside another box before applying tape and the Fedex shipping receipt pouch on the box (over the original OS label). So I had to carefully peel off the various stickies. I was able to do a pretty good job and except for the label tearing due to age, I was able to remove the pouch without damaging it. When I was removing the tape I accidently discovered that if I pulled the tape in a horizontal plane, it actually causes the tape to lift from the box without taking the top layer of the cardboard or any paper labels with it. Grab on to the tape and start pulling on it (hard) rather than peeling it back. It will lift off. The kind of tape I am referring to here is the clear packaging tape. Anyway, something to try the next time someone does this to you. To avoid this, be sure to have your sender put any original boxes inside another box before shipping. I didn't realize this was coming in the original box or else I would have instructed him to do so. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

23 years, 3 months

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Old computers from HP, maybe? Anybody know where HP is collecting/storing them?

by RCTech＠cnri.us

HP: Don't trash that old computer By Ian Fried Staff Writer, CNET News.com February 5, 2003, 5:10 PM PT Hewlett-Packard is hoping a little green will help make computer owners recycle more of their old tech gear. The computer maker is testing a program that gives those who recycle their old computers, monitors, printers or other gear a coupon worth up to $50 for any purchase of $60 or more on HP's online store. Under a program announced nearly two years ago, HP charges anywhere from $17 to $31 to recycle products. The company says the coupon will offset the amount customers must pay for the service, which ensures none of the gear ends up in landfills. The need for recycling is growing, particularly as nonprofit agencies become less willing to accept older gear, said Renee St. Denis, manager of HP's recycling effort. The problem of what to do with all this aging equipment has become a major issue facing the tech industry. "Now there is nobody to use it, and (charities) are coming to understand there is a cost to disposing of it properly," St. Denis said in an interview. With the promotion--which runs through April 30--HP hopes to find out whether a financial incentive will boost the number of products being recycled. The company said it already receives thousands of products each year, but would not be more specific on the amount. "We thought we'd give this a shot; then we'll evaluate how to move forward," St. Denis said. Those who return PCs, scanners, handhelds or inkjet printers will receive $20, while those who return monitors and laser printers will receive $30 coupons. A PC with a monitor fetches $50. While most of the products HP gets back are obsolete, the company does keep a list of what some charities are looking for and will donate any gear that meets the charities' minimum standards. "For the most part what we get in here is pretty darn old," St. Denis said. HP's recycling program accepts its gear as well as similar products made by competitors. "We don't want toasters, but we'll take other people's printers," St. Denis said.

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OT: RE: Collecting, Hacking and the Spooks (was: Gulf War,

by doug_jackson＠citadel.com.au

Wow. That's extremely good news. Unfortunately, my experience in repairing the samsung TV's is that you *start* by replacing about AUS $50 worth of power supply components, then you see what else failed. AARRGGH. Doug Jackson Director, Managed Security Services Citadel Securix +61 (0)2 6290 9011 (Ph) +61 (0)2 6262 6152 (Fax) +61 (0)414 986 878 (Mobile) Web: <www.citadel.com.au> Offices in Melbourne, Sydney, Canberra, Hong Kong, Boston -----Original Message----- From: Philip Pemberton [mailto:philpem@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:49 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: OT: RE: Collecting, Hacking and the Spooks (was: Gulf War, Bryan Pope wrote: > And thusly Fred Cisin spake: >>> How much power / heat does a distiller use / generate?! >> How much shine could you make from a still heated by a Pentium? > Oooooh! ooooooh! How bout an ethanol cooling system for a P4?!! The > next 'leet mod! Only one problem with that approach - isn't ethanol, er... highly flammable? i.e. if it gets spilt on the CPU, said CPU goes up in flames along with the methanol cooler and pretty much everything else in the system case... Speaking of naffed up PCs, I was given a Celeron 400 box to play with. The CD ROM was (supposedly) dead. And rattling - uh-oh... Opened up the drive and found out that some in-DUH-vidual put a badly cracked CD in there. The CDROM was a 48x. Can you guess what happened to the CD when the drive got up to speed? That's right. It shattered. I spent 25 minutes picking bits of CD out of the mechanism. And then I powered it up again. And it came up to speed and read a CD fine. Guess that says something about Samsung CD drives then... Unfortunately, the other Samsung 48x drive I was given really was dead - the spindle motor bearings seized up... Later. -- Phil. philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/ CAUTION - The information in this message may be of a privileged or confidential nature intended only for the use of the addressee or someone authorised to receive the addressee's e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify postmaster(a)citadel.com.au. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Citadel Securix. Feel free to visit the Citadel Securix website! Click below. http://www.citadel.com.au

23 years, 3 months

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Rookie HP-85 problem

by rhahm＠nycap.rr.com

OK, I took it apart to take alook inside and clean it up. Now I can't get the damn cover back on. It seems to get caught on the tape eject button. Don't want to break the cover forcing it. Are you supposed to separate the monitor/tape brown faceplate from the rest of the cover first? HELP RH

23 years, 3 months

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Looking for source of MFM or RLL drives

by jwillis＠arielusa.com

I have an RD54 available... no idea whether its working. -----Original Message----- From: Kelly Leavitt Sent: Fri 2/7/2003 6:12 PM To: 'cctalk(a)classiccmp.org ' Cc: Subject: RE: Looking for source of MFM or RLL drives Yes, the OS allows entering of drive geometry. Actually only supports MFM up to 70Meg. RLL drives will of course work, just not to RLL capacity. I'm looking for the largest drives I can find. From: Ethan Dicks --- Kelly Leavitt <CCTalk(a)catcorner.org> wrote: > Any good sources of MFM or RLL drives. This would be for a Tandy 6000 > running Xenix. > > I'm looking for 70 Meg or higher MFM (110 RLL capacity). Hmm... those aren't so common (in the DEC world, there are two choices - the RD53 (Miniscribe 1325) and the RD54 (Maxtor XT2190). I take it you aren't constrained by a narrow set of expected geometries? (i.e. - you have a running system and/or the install procedure asks you about the drive rather than assuming?) -ethan [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]

23 years, 3 months

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Disk drive head locking (DEC RA-82 and HP 7920)

by jwillis＠arielusa.com

I seem to have only up to RA81, but everything else :( -----Original Message----- From: Dan Veeneman Sent: Fri 2/7/2003 3:04 PM To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Cc: Subject: Disk drive head locking (DEC RA-82 and HP 7920) Hello, I'm scheduled to pick up a pair of DEC RA-82 drives along with an HP 7920 drive in the next couple of weeks. I don't have any technical documentation for either of these drives, but I'd be very interested in learning the proper procedure for locking down the heads on these drives prior to moving them. If anyone has the steps to take for either or both of these drives, please drop me a note or point me to the proper archive. They've already been warehoused, so it might be too late, but I'd like to be as safe as I can. Thanks! Cheers, Dan www.decodesystems.com/wanted.html [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]

23 years, 3 months

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WANTED: RA7x Enclosure/Operator Ctrl. Panel

by jwillis＠arielusa.com

New Mexico, USA -----Original Message----- From: Eric Dittman Sent: Fri 2/7/2003 4:46 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Cc: Subject: Re: WANTED: RA7x Enclosure/Operator Ctrl. Panel > Wanted: RA7x Enclosure/Operator Ctrl. Panel Where are you located? -- Eric Dittman dittman(a)dittman.net Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/ [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]

23 years, 3 months

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Old Computer Companies

by fm.arnold＠gmx.net

cctech-request(a)classiccmp.org schrieb am 06.02.2003: ----------<snip>----------- Message: 23 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:34:12 +0200 (EET) Subject: Re: Old Computer Companies From: "Jarkko Teppo" <jarkko.teppo(a)er-grp.com> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Jochen Kunz said: >> On 2003.02.03 03:10 vance(a)neurotica.com wrote: >> >>> > Norsk Data? >>> I'm not familiar with them either. >> I am not very familiar with them. They made some minicomputers in the >> 70'es, mayby some other stuff too. > >I've seen (well, almost) Norsk Data machines in, hmm.. how should I >phrase that: "big controversial power plants where security is quite >important". This was less than ten years ago so I don't think they've >"upgraded" them. Saw a couple of VAXen as well, 4000/90 if I remember >correctly. The VAXes I saw were not in critical roles. > >(I checked, and they've replaced the Norsk Data system: >http://www.tvo.fi/uploads/Outage_Excellence.pdf, works from google cache as >html) > It seems, that Olkiluoto 1 still has the Norsk-data machines. They will change those next year, so they might still keep all that hardware in stock for some time until block 1 is also modernised. If someone likes to save equipment, doc's or photoos, its time to act now... (too far away for me...) BTW, back in the seventies I was working for a large finnish company that build (parts of) the security shutdown system of the Lovisa npp. They also build the npp-operator's training simulator and I remember that it was using several big Eliott computers from UK. What happened to them? I mean Eliott, not N...a Frank Arnold

23 years, 3 months

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MicroVAX 3800 Power Cable

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 6, 22:33, Tony Duell wrote: > I don't see how you can do a proper test without a visual inspection of > the connections... And I've yet to see a moulded connector that provides > a proper strain-relief for the cable. A good PAT tester will check at a sensible current (though admittedly a lot only check earth continuity at a proper current). As for strain releif, well you're not supposed to swing the equipment by the power cable, Tony! > > > What is the connector like the normal 'kettle plug' with round pins? > The cable mounted section looks like a normal 'cold condition' _socket_, > but there are 3 round pins sticking out of the face of it (where the > socket holes would be). The chassis part looks like the normal plug > (recessed into the panel, etc) with 3 holes in it in place of the normal > plug pins. I've a feeling I've seen this used somewhere -- but not recently, and I can't think where :-( -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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DEC/PDP documentation received

by jwillis＠arielusa.com

I'll see what I can do. Maybe I can scan them at work. Just found out my UMAX scanner doesn't work under Mac OS X. -----Original Message----- From: pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com Sent: Fri 2/7/2003 3:25 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Cc: Subject: Re: DEC/PDP documentation received On Feb 7, 13:39, Zane H. Healy wrote: > Nice haul! > > I'm going to guess that the following would be of definite use to a bunch of > us. What are their age? As far as I know they aren't available: > > EK-LSIFS-SV-005 LSI-11 Systems Service Manual, Volume I: Systems Options > EK-LSIFS-SV-005 LSI-11 Systems Service Manual, Volume II: Module Options A-K > EK-LSIFS-SV-005 LSI-11 Systems Service Manual, Volume III: Module OptionsL-Z PDFs of these would certainly be useful to me :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]

23 years, 3 months

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DEC/PDP documentation received

by jwillis＠arielusa.com

5th Edition, January 1985 -----Original Message----- From: Zane H. Healy Sent: Fri 2/7/2003 2:39 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Cc: Subject: Re: DEC/PDP documentation received Nice haul! I'm going to guess that the following would be of definite use to a bunch of us. What are their age? As far as I know they aren't available: EK-LSIFS-SV-005 LSI-11 Systems Service Manual, Volume I: Systems Options EK-LSIFS-SV-005 LSI-11 Systems Service Manual, Volume II: Module Options A-K EK-LSIFS-SV-005 LSI-11 Systems Service Manual, Volume III: Module OptionsL-Z Of potential interest to a select few (again, I've no idea if they're available): VAXsimPLUS Field Service Manual VAXsimPLUS User Guide RM05 Disk Subsystem Service Manual RM05 Disk Subsystem Student Guide (Digital Internal Use Only) RM03 Disk Drive Maint. Print Set RP04/05/06 Field Maint. Print Set Model 733 DEC Disk Storage Drive Parts Catalog, Jan. 1976 RP04-TC Part II RP04, RP05, RP06 Field Svc. Handbook RP05/RP06 Field Handbook -Company Confidential- RP05/06 677-01/51 Disc Drive Illustrated Parts Catalog Model 677-01/51 RP05/06 DEC DISC MAINTENANCE Guide (Educ. Svcs.) Zane [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]

23 years, 3 months

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DEC/PDP documentation received

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 7, 13:39, Zane H. Healy wrote: > Nice haul! > > I'm going to guess that the following would be of definite use to a bunch of > us. What are their age? As far as I know they aren't available: > > EK-LSIFS-SV-005 LSI-11 Systems Service Manual, Volume I: Systems Options > EK-LSIFS-SV-005 LSI-11 Systems Service Manual, Volume II: Module Options A-K > EK-LSIFS-SV-005 LSI-11 Systems Service Manual, Volume III: Module OptionsL-Z PDFs of these would certainly be useful to me :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 3 months

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Disk drive head locking (DEC RA-82 and HP 7920)

by dan＠ekoan.com

Hello, I'm scheduled to pick up a pair of DEC RA-82 drives along with an HP 7920 drive in the next couple of weeks. I don't have any technical documentation for either of these drives, but I'd be very interested in learning the proper procedure for locking down the heads on these drives prior to moving them. If anyone has the steps to take for either or both of these drives, please drop me a note or point me to the proper archive. They've already been warehoused, so it might be too late, but I'd like to be as safe as I can. Thanks! Cheers, Dan www.decodesystems.com/wanted.html

23 years, 3 months

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DEC/PDP documentation received

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Nice haul! I'm going to guess that the following would be of definite use to a bunch of us. What are their age? As far as I know they aren't available: EK-LSIFS-SV-005 LSI-11 Systems Service Manual, Volume I: Systems Options EK-LSIFS-SV-005 LSI-11 Systems Service Manual, Volume II: Module Options A-K EK-LSIFS-SV-005 LSI-11 Systems Service Manual, Volume III: Module OptionsL-Z Of potential interest to a select few (again, I've no idea if they're available): VAXsimPLUS Field Service Manual VAXsimPLUS User Guide RM05 Disk Subsystem Service Manual RM05 Disk Subsystem Student Guide (Digital Internal Use Only) RM03 Disk Drive Maint. Print Set RP04/05/06 Field Maint. Print Set Model 733 DEC Disk Storage Drive Parts Catalog, Jan. 1976 RP04-TC Part II RP04, RP05, RP06 Field Svc. Handbook RP05/RP06 Field Handbook -Company Confidential- RP05/06 677-01/51 Disc Drive Illustrated Parts Catalog Model 677-01/51 RP05/06 DEC DISC MAINTENANCE Guide (Educ. Svcs.) Zane

23 years, 3 months

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DEC/PDP documentation received

by jwillis＠arielusa.com

I've posted the list on the web... in the process of finishing it and adding the DEC order numbers. http://coherentlogic.dyndns.org/vax/vaxdocs.txt Enjoy!

23 years, 3 months

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Columbia

by jwillis＠manson.vistech.net

7 people died. 7 people die all the time. These 7 happened to be astronauts. Big deal.

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Ebay - HP85A

by marvin＠rain.org

There is an HP-86A for sale on ebay at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3400284610&category=179#… The current bid is $10.50, and it ends at 11:47 PST.

23 years, 3 months

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Strainge VAXserver 2000 card? (more info)

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Indeed, the card I plucked out of the expansion box is only the card with the board's line drivers and faceplate. The real board is inside the machine, and looks to be a regular MV2000/3100 expansion board. Since someone already mentioned that their serial expander has the centronics-like connector for the H3104 on the faceplate, this *must* then be the sync-serial ("X.25") one. See the new pics at: http://www.microwalt.nl/Fred/VAXlab/VS2000-OPT-1.JPG http://www.microwalt.nl/Fred/VAXlab/VS2000-OPT-2.JPG http://www.microwalt.nl/Fred/VAXlab/VS2000-OPT-3.JPG [new] http://www.microwalt.nl/Fred/VAXlab/VS2000-OPT-4.JPG [new] These are the 1280x1024 ones., for clarity of the card's details. --fred

23 years, 3 months

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VAX/PDP docs. received

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

> Received from a former DEC service rep.: Ohh... my... god ! What's the guy's address? I'll send him a crate of beer as thanks for *not* redirecting his stuff to the garbage truck, as is done WAY too often... yay yay yay! --f

23 years, 3 months

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OT Avalanches (was: Columbia)

by cb＠mythtech.net

>When I was a kid, I tried and tried to make an igloo of packed cubes of >snow. I never could get one finished as once the walls started to curve >I couldn't get the layers to stick long enough to close the thing up and >complete it. An igloo is a very stable structure, but a half-finished >one isn't at all stable... In boy scouts, we cheated. We used a plastic box to make the packed cubes, and a spray bottle of water to make the blocks stick together. A light misting on the top edge of a block, then press the next block down onto it and hold for a second... igloo superglue! It worked well enough to get the structure finished... alas we didn't make it big enough for all of us in the troop to fit inside (10 of us?), and the pushing and shoving that followed made quick work of tearing it back down. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Looking for source of MFM or RLL drives

by CCTalk＠catcorner.org

Any good sources of MFM or RLL drives. This would be for a Tandy 6000 running Xenix. I'm looking for 70 Meg or higher MFM (110 RLL capacity). Thanks, Kelly

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C= 64's maybe available

by cb＠mythtech.net

Picked this up from the LEM-Swap list, passing it on in case anyone was interested. Reply to him, not me. ---- Subject: [swap] OT; Commodore 64 Date: 2/7/03 8:26 AM Received: 2/7/03 9:25 AM From: Nick Hull, nhull(a)mindspring.com I need to get rid of a pair of Commodore 64 computers. Is there any group that handles these? I hate to just trash things when someone might actually want some. ---- -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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found usefull jumper page

by paulm064＠icqmail.com

Found a pretty good jumper settings page ,has older network adaptors and hard drive data etc. plaese don't swamp it and have it killed!

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OT: RE: Collecting, Hacking and the Spooks (was: Gulf War, dummie s,

by cb＠mythtech.net

> They restricted the use of HEAT SENSORS but they did not restrict the >police from using estimates of exceesive power usage by the power >companies. That's how they "caught" Zane. The thermal imaging sensors >would have probably shown that the source was a computer and not growing >plants. BTW they also use both technologies for detecking stills built >inside of homes. Does this open up the market to sell used big iron to drug dealers? This way they can justify their extra power usage and heat output. "No officer, I don't grow pot... its just my refridgerator sized computer, pay no attention to the plants behind the curtain" -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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65C51

by jaybp3＠earthlink.net

Just curious... did you find any 65C51 ICs? Jay

23 years, 3 months

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10Base-FL

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 6, 23:04, Adrien Farkas wrote: > 10base-FL is 62.5/125. actually, I'm running fddi on 50/125 with no > problems so it shouldn't matter _that_ much what cores you use for it > (besides singlemode 8.5/125, of course). Actually, the standards allow for both 50/125 and 62.5/125 for 10baseFL and FDDI, and everything else up to Gigabit. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Something for all you PS/2 fans

by vance＠neurotica.com

Anyone want PS/2 Mod 95's? Apparently some of them have Type-IV (! -- expensive) complexes. Peace... Sridhar

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10Base-FL

by vance＠neurotica.com

I'm about to put some 10Base-FL in and I was wondering if someone could tell me what kind of fiber I should be looking for? Is it 50/125 MMF like GigE? Or is it 62.5/125 MMF like FDDI? Peace... Sridhar

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RM Nimbus

by Peter.Hicks＠POGGS.CO.UK

All, I used to have an AX/2 server at home quite a while ago, and all I have left is the hard drive. I want to get this software off the drive, but I threw out my last MFM controller card ages ago. Does anybody have a copy of the old RM NET LM software that ran (runs?) Z-Net networks of PC186 machines? Even better, does anyone have an ISA MFM controller they'd be willing to swap for money? :) eBay hasn't turned up anything :( Best wishes, Peter.

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IBM 3164 Terminals

by lisa.parmar＠aircanada.ca

Hi Pat, Do you have any of the IBM 3164 terminals left? Lisa [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of lisa.parmar.vcf]

23 years, 3 months

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tonights finds

by kenziem＠sympatico.ca

I went thinking I was going to pick up an OT DY4 PPC embedded machine, instead it is an DY4 Orion with dual 8" floppies, the manual, a box of disks and a Volker Craig terminal. A few sun keyboards and a unopened copy of PharLap thrown in for good measure. My wife met me at the door saying this is the last machine, so I'll have to get the stuff from the trunk on the weekend. Does anyone have any tales to tell about the DY4? I'm also looking for drive rails for a SGI Personal Iris.

23 years, 3 months

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Strainge VAXserver 2000 card?

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

And thanks to some fucked-up demime thing, pics can be found here: http://www.microwalt.nl/Fred/VAXlab/VS2000-OPT-1.JPG http://www.microwalt.nl/Fred/VAXlab/VS2000-OPT-2.JPG These are the 1280x1024 ones., for clarity of the card's details. --fred

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OT: File compression

by acme＠ao.net

Can anyone suggest a good book on file compression? Or, does anyone know where I can find C source for a simple file compression routine? The program needs to be portable to Linux, MS-DOS, CP/M and CP/M-86. (I am capable of making changes in the code to accomodate different compilers) Of course, there are compression routines which run under each of these OSs, but I need to run the same routine under all four OSs. TIA for any help -- Glen 0/0

23 years, 3 months

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FS: Acorn System I Microcontroller Kit (Cambridge, UK)

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Seen on cam.misc usenet group (Cambridge, UK) - I have no connection with the seller, so email them directly if interested. cheers Jules ======= From: Alan Bain (afrb2(a)statslab.cam.ac.uk) Subject: FS: Acorn System I Microcontroller Kit Newsgroups: ucam.adverts.forsale.computer, ucam.societies.cucps, cam.misc Date: 2003-02-06 02:58:03 PST ACORN system I 6502 Microcontroller kit as shipped from Acorn in a box full of packing beads. Never assembled, so time to get out your glue can and build it yourself. Kit contains 1 PCB (Issue 3 200000) Dates from 1980 1 Bag of components 1 Bag of ICs (incl SY6502 and the hard to find INS8154D, you were supposed to supply the others yourself -- presumably desoldered from dead boards) and a load of IC sockets. 1 Schematic Diagram I can almost certainly also locate a copy of the construction manual writen from Acorn's Market Square Address, most likely an original! Reasonable Offers (maybe around 40 pounds but no reasonable offer refused)? Alan Bain Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

23 years, 3 months

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HP-85 Error 74 stall

by rhahm＠nycap.rr.com

Hi, I am the proud new owner of an HP 85. Printer belts a little ratty but works fine. However when I attempted to Rew/Load/Cat any of the tapes I received with it I got a stall error. I cleaned the capstan which is intact, and did not fall apart, as I understand they tend to do. The tape motor spins fine when I pressed the tape sensor button inside and hit Rew. Finally after a bunch of attempts the tapes began to spin and I could perform the Load, Cat and Ctape operations. I still seem to get fairly frequent stall errors however. Do you think I need to replace the capstan? Can you get them (or the printer belts)anywhere, or should I use the silicon aquarium tube method mentioned in the archives? Any other thoughts appreciated. Eventually hope to hook it up to a floopy drive but need to find a mass storage rom. Also do you know of any good resources on the web for the 80 series as I haven't found a whole lot. Thanks, RH

23 years, 3 months

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6502 fans - the SBC-2 is about to have another run - order boards now!

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

(Whoops... let's try that again with the editing *finished* this time... For those who haven't been to http://65c02.tripod.com/ , the SBC-2 is a single-board 6502 with the following onboard: o 1 MHz 65c02 o 32K of static RAM o 32k of EEPROM o 2 x 65C22 Versatile Interface Adapters (VIA) o 1 x 65C51 Asynchronous Interface Adapter. o Eight 16-byte address blocks decoded for I/O (3 used onboard) This will be the second run of boards. At the moment, Daryl has ten orders. The deadline is 15-Feb. Picture at http://65c02.tripod.com/sbc2.jpg Current cost breakdown is: (from Daryl's announcement) $26.20 per board $4-6 shipping US $4-14 shipping outside US $2 for the serial cable (The serial cable is a 10-pin IDC<->DE9M, like the kind you find on Socket3 and Socket7 PeeCee motherboards). No guarantees that more orders will hit a new price point, so if you have an interest in a compact CMOS 6502 SBC, write Daryl: 65c02(a)softcom.net Do it soon. Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with the SBC-2 except as a potential customer. -ethan

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OT/Admin: tags

by zmerch＠30below.com

Rumor has it that Fred N. van Kempen may have mentioned these words: >Although this has come up a few times already, I am going to bring it >up again. Come kick my butt if you don't like it :) Awrighty -- I got my Size 9.5(US) Lacrosse Icemans on right now... ;-) <thud> Wham. Wham. Wham. Wham. Wham. -- Ascii representation of the sound of a dead horse getting beaten once again... :-( >Given the volume of the list, and the many off-topic (lets not discuss >what is and is not on-topic here) talk, I would like to propose [again] >that we do like other lists do: insert a tag [cctalk] in the Subject: >line of the postings, so it's easy to distinguis the postings from >other, perhaps more pressing e-mail. Not just no... *Hell no*... >Selecting/filtering based on sender address doesn't work well for all >clients, and depends on the ability to use processing rules in the >first place. Then filter on the headers! It's not that hard... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Received: from ted.kwcorp.com (imail.kwcorp.com [209.83.143.147] (may be forged)) by huey.classiccmp.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h14Iq2m50008 for <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>; Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:52:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jwest(a)classiccmp.org) Received: from jwest [172.16.51.3] by imail.kwcorp.com (SMTPD32-7.12) id AB5BD990224; Tue, 04 Feb 2003 12:50:03 -0600 Message-ID: <005301c2cc7e$32386ee0$033310ac(a)kwcorp.com> X-BeenThere: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Id: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <cctalk.classiccmp.org> List-Post: <mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org> List-Help: <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:cctalk-request@classiccmp.org?subject=subscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= These are all unique headers to this list. Any MUA worth its salt can filter on any one of these... even some not worth it, like LookOut Hexpress... >As said, most lists out there already use this technique, it's been >accepted more or less as a standard, so can we *please* use something >like this ? Accepted by whom? All but one of the lists I'm on *don't do this* (not to mention the ones I admin) and the one that did I disliked, and unsubbed as soon as a better list was available... And this is a "standard" just like HTML email is currently a "standard" - it's not even compatible with itself, and in all, it's just a plain bad idea... IMH-But-SysAdmin-Based-O... >I don't want to start Yet Another Discussion, a mere vote would do, as >we're all techies who know what this is about. That sounds like the beginning of a 2-hour-pissing-match I had with my father-in-law a *long* time ago... "I'm not saying this because you don't want to become an auctioneer..." In all fairness, if it were a *user configurable* option, I wouldn't give a whit, so long as I could turn it off... otherwise, you know my vote... but how many times do we have to vote on this, anyway??? Prost, "Merch" -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers zmerch(a)30below.com What do you do when Life gives you lemons, and you don't *like* lemonade?????????????

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Columbia

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I do feel for the astronaut's families, and in almost equal measure for the >future of humanity in space. We have *got* to find a better way of getting >in and out of the gravity well. As sick as it seems... these kind of accidents are exactly what brings about the safer ways of doing things. Nearly all safety measures we as society have for everything can be traced back to someone (or many someones) being injured or killed. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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I saw you post 12-17-02 about Intel 1602

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi One should note that the programming of the A parts is different than the non-A parts. The manual shown has the specs for the non-A parts ( these are really rare ). Most are either 1708A, 8708A or 4708A parts that are found now days. Signal wise, I believe that the non-A and A parts are similar. They made very few of the non-A parts. Dwight >From: "Vettore Massimo MARPD EDP" <massimo.vettore(a)zf.com> > >You could find information on Intel 8702A at the IMSAI web site >http://www.imsai.net/support/support.htm >look at Intel 8080 Microcomputer Systems User's Manual part 2 >or straight >http://www.imsai.net/support/device_specs/Intel8080Manual-2.pdf >go to page 56 > >Regards >Max > >----- Original Message ----- >Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 00:51:50 -0600 >From: Alex Welti <lxwelti(a)comcast.net> >Subject: I saw you post 12-17-02 about Intel 1602 >To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > >>I have been handed down a room full of electronics - my >>brother-in-law's father passed away - and I am the nearest relative who >>has a career in electronics, so... I am spending my evenings going >>through and identifing parts, most of which I am familiar with and have >>datasheets on. However, I can't find anything on these i C8702A. A >>web search brought me to your posting. I am hoping you have a datasheet >>or know where I should go to find one. >> >>Thanks, >>Alex

23 years, 3 months

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Things FS (dec, ncd, sun, chips), and Info requested

by pat＠purdueriots.com

First, the question. Look for "SELLING" below for what I have 'for sale'. I've managed to pick up a TECMAR, Inc. "LAB TENDER COMP" card for the IBM PC (8bit ISA interface) but I don't have any docs on it. There's a total of 5 34pin headers on the card, a bunch of 7400 seris logic, an AM9513, AM8255A-5, 5xTL084CJ, 4xHEF4051BP chips, and 3x8switch dip-switches. Does anyone know what this is and/or have software/docs for it? SELLING + Digital SC008-AB, one with an "A" and one with a "B" on it, has many (maybe 20) TNC Jacks monted on it, some with 'terminators' on it. Does anyone know what this is? I'm intrigued by it. $5 each + shipping + Digital M8210 - 32kW (72bit words) MOS memory for a VAX-11/780. It's still sealed in an anti-static bag, so I assume it's in excellent condition. $5 + shipping + NCD 19c Xterminal, no cables. Uses a sync-on-green monitor, does color, has AUI/10Base2 network connectors, uses standard PS/2 style keyboard and a 9pin serial (pc-like) mouse. ** Based off of Motorola 88100 processor ** $10 + shipping + 4 x Sun SparcStation 5, 64MB RAM, CG6 framebuffer, 2GB Seagate ST32550WC hard drive. These are working, but don't have an OS installed for licensing reasons. I can install Debian Linux (base install) on them if interested (for free!). $15 each + shipping, also have some parts (lots of CG6's), email if interested. + 6 x Sun SparcStation 5 power supplies (PN 300-1215-02): ratings are +5V @ 25A, +12V @ 2.3A(Max 4A), -12V @ 0.25A max continuous 150.2W, max output <15sec 174.2W $5 each + shipping + Not really classic, but I've got a lot of RJ45->DE9-F cisco console cables, and 48VDC, 0.3A table-top 'wall wart' power supplies. I figured that they might be of some use to list readers, and wanted to do this before they go onto eBay. $5 for one + shipping, or make me an offer for >1. + VME Boards - have socketed chips that are re-usable: PE/IO: 1 x MC68881RC15A - math coprocessor 1 x MC68901P 2 x MC68230P10 - 68k 'parallel port' chip 1 x PAL16R4CN -\ 1 x PAL14L4NC --+- does anyone know if they're erasable? 1 x PAL16R6NC -/ 2 x D8293 --\ 1 x P8291A ---+-- Intel GPIB chips parallel ports: 2 x MC68230P10 n x 74LS00 series logic IC's net interface: 2 x MC68230P10 n x 74LS00 series logic IC's DMA interface: n x 74LS00 series logic IC's 68010 board: 1 x MC68010L10 4 x KM6264L-15 8k x 8 150ns SRAM 4 x M5L2764 8k x 8 EPROM 1 x 5.0688MHz oscillator 68000 board: mostly same as the 68010 board, except with MC68000P8 instead I also have a couple of prototyping (wire-wrap) VME boards. You can see everything I have at http://purdueriots.com/mvme/ including (fuzzy) pictures of the boards. I'd like to get $5 per board + shipping to recuperate my costs. I can do cheaper for large quantites. ** The CPU boards have custom-developed console 'debuggers' that use the RS-232 port on the CPU card as a console. They *require* that a PE/IO board be connected to the VME bus in order to 'initialize'. You could, of course get around this by replacing the ROMs. If (when) I get multiple offers, I'll try to choose fairly who gets the stuff, or divide it up if there's multiple people interested Thanks for listening! Pat Lafayette, IN, USA 47904 -- Purdue Universtiy ITAP/RCS Information Technology at Purdue Research Computing and Storage http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu

23 years, 3 months

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MicroVAX 3800 Power Cable

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 6, 0:53, Tony Duell wrote: > I've had far too many problems with the normal moulded cables -- things > like marginally-rated cable (certainly not 6A), earth not properly > connected, live/neutral reversed, no strain relief, and so on that I now > refuse to use them (and am grdually replacing all the ones here). I've rarely had any problem, but then I'm generally reusing cables sthat have been tested, and tend not to exceed the ratings. > > The second version is a little larger, has the pins at right angles to > > the pins in the 10A version, and is rated 16A. > > If that's the one I think it is, it doesn't have 2 of the corners cut off > -- the connector is rectangular with rounded corners (all 4 the same). Yes, I should have mentined that. > What is the connector like the normal 'kettle plug' with round pins? I've > only ever seen it in the chassis socket/cable plug configuration. Dunno -- that might be one of the Bulgin range? Or do you mean one in which the housing also looks a bit like three cylinders welded together, instead of a rectangular block with corners cut off? That's also an IEC connector, rated 2.5A. I've seen a couple of laptop power suplies with those. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 3 months

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Rainbow Enthusiasts

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

For those who have the Rainbow bug... Jeff Armstrong is putting his Rainbow site up again. The URL is http://www.classiccmp.org/rainbow Right now there is just an annoucement page, the real content should be there sometime saturday Enjoy! Jay West

23 years, 3 months

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Reply to: OT: PowerBook G3 parts

by nerdware＠ctgonline.org

Yep. Go to www.powerbookguy.com and browse his site. I bought several things from him when I was refurbishing the Wallstreet I was given, and he was very friendly and helpful. Paul ORIGINAL MESSAGE FOLLOWS: Hello, I just got a bronze keyboard (Lombard) G3 powerbook, sans cdrom drive, battery, and AC adapter. Does anyone have parts for this machine or know of a good source to get them from? - Dan Wright (dtwright(a)uiuc.edu) (http://www.uiuc.edu/~dtwright) -] ------------------------------ [-] -------------------------------- [- ``Weave a circle round him thrice, / And close your eyes with holy dread, For he on honeydew hath fed, / and drunk the milk of Paradise.'' Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Kubla Khan

23 years, 3 months

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Strainge VAXserver 2000 card?

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

All, A strange find today, in the pile of stuff-to-figure-out. See attached pictures. Its one of those little option cards that fit in the VS2000's "pizzabox" expansion unit. I have two of these machines, both have the box. One of the machines is a VAXserver 2000 (!), and that one had this card. One single flatcable going to the machine's mainboard (connector on the side of the mainboard, above the power supply) and it has the usual DEC 3-row connector on the outside faceplate. What's this? Serial line expander of some sort? The X.25 thing I heard about? Larger pictures available at 1600x1280 and 1280x1024. Cheers, Fred [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of VS2000-OPT-1_SM.JPG] [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of VS2000-OPT-2_SM.JPG]

23 years, 3 months

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Your Word 4.0 for Mac disks?

by mailsend＠juno.com

"Lawrence LeMay" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>, lemay(a)cs.umn.edu SUBJECT: Your Word 4.0 for Mac disks? Dear Mr. LeMay, Do you still have the Word 4.0 for Mac available? We read your posting from 2001, May, at this URL: http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2002-May/000582.html How many bucks do you want for it? We need just one set, please. We already own Word 3.0 for Mac and need this for compatibility to receive a few documents >from others for study. Thank you very much. A student Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

23 years, 3 months

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OT/Admin: tags

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

All, Although this has come up a few times already, I am going to bring it up again. Come kick my butt if you don't like it :) Given the volume of the list, and the many off-topic (lets not discuss what is and is not on-topic here) talk, I would like to propose [again] that we do like other lists do: insert a tag [cctalk] in the Subject: line of the postings, so it's easy to distinguis the postings from other, perhaps more pressing e-mail. Selecting/filtering based on sender address doesn't work well for all clients, and depends on the ability to use processing rules in the first place. As said, most lists out there already use this technique, it's been accepted more or less as a standard, so can we *please* use something like this ? I don't want to start Yet Another Discussion, a mere vote would do, as we're all techies who know what this is about. Cheers, Fred

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Same seller, more HP stuff on ebay

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

The same seller that didn't sell his HP2000 system on ebay (and relisted it), is also auctioning separately an HP3030 tape drive that appears to be in great condition cosmetically. Nice piece of history! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3400167260&category=1479

23 years, 3 months

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FS: Linus write top computer

by dan.stanger＠ieee.org

It is complete with docs and carrying case. Please make a offer +shipping from Denver, CO 80222. Thanks, Dan Stanger

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386

by mhstein＠canada.com

--------------------Original Message--------------- Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:53:48 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: "bluegenie" <bluegenie(a)ntlworld.com> Subject: 386 I am after some baby at 286/386/486 motherboards of size aprox 8 3/4 inches x 6 3/4 inches Can you help Graham Challis ---------------------------------------------------------- I have three, 8.7 x 6.9 inches, all with manuals (no memory or batteries): 1 x SER386-AS, 386SX33, 6x16bit ISA slots, max 16Mb 2 x UNI-386WB, 386DX40, 5x16bit+1x8bit ISA slots, max 128Mb (one with 387 coprocessor) Contact me off-list if you're interested. mike in Toronto, Canada mhstein at canada dot com ---------------------------------------- PS: Silly me; hit "send" before putting mind in gear: Although there are no batteries (to prevent leakage damage) or memory on these boards in their packages, I can certainly supply both if needed, as well as pretty well any I/O cards you might need. <Another dent in forehead from excessive smacking>

23 years, 3 months

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386

by mhstein＠canada.com

--------------------Original Message--------------- Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:53:48 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: "bluegenie" <bluegenie(a)ntlworld.com> Subject: 386 I am after some baby at 286/386/486 motherboards of size aprox 8 3/4 inches x 6 3/4 inches Can you help Graham Challis ---------------------------------------------------------- I have three, 8.7 x 6.9 inches, all with manuals (no memory or batteries): 1 x SER386-AS, 386SX33, 6x16bit ISA slots, max 16Mb 2 x UNI-386WB, 386DX40, 5x16bit+1x8bit ISA slots, max 128Mb (one with 387 coprocessor) Contact me off-list if you're interested. mike in Toronto, Canada mhstein at canada dot com

23 years, 3 months

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looking for a COMPUTE! issue

by writer＠halfhill.com

Charles, Yes, I believe I have a complete set of COMPUTE! back issues from the time I was there (1982-88). They are packed away in boxes. I wouldn't be willing to part with an entire issue, but I might be persuaded to find and photocopy a specific article, if somebody really wants it badly. Knowing the date of the issue would be a big help. If the goal is to find a program, not necessarily an article, I suggest looking for it on the web first. There are several web sites and groups that keep archives of programs for old computers. This would save the trouble of typing in the program listing. Tom -- Tom R. Halfhill writer(a)halfhill.com http://www.halfhill.com Charles Brannon wrote: > > Thanks for the compliment and the chuckle. Yup, I was asking my old > friend Tom Halfhill. Nice to know we still have fans out there. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Arnott [mailto:jrasite@eoni.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:55 AM > To: charles(a)brannon.com > Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: RE: [Fwd: looking for a COMPUTE! issue]]] > > LOL... > > Cute kid! Lisa says thanks for the pic. > > Thanks Charles. > > Warmest regards. > > Jim > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Fwd: RE: [Fwd: looking for a COMPUTE! issue]] > Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 22:28:30 -0800 (PST) > From: Cameron Kaiser <spectre(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu> > To: jrasite(a)eoni.com > > > Well? > > ?!? You spoke to *Charles Brannon*?! He's your *nephew*?! > > Excuse me while I collect my jaw from the floor ... *click*. > > Next you're going to tell me that the "Tom" in his reply is Tom > Halfhill. :-P > > I'm after the entire magazine if I can get it (Sellam says he might have > a spare -- he's looking), but I will let you know ASAP. > > Appreciated (and rather impressed), > > -- > ----------------------------- personal page: > http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- > Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * > ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu > -- You've got to have a gimmick if your band sucks. -- Gary Giddens > ----------- > > .

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Atari ST Help

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

I have my original Atari ST 512 still... It's been a trouper and I'd like to use it again.. So, I'm looking for help with the following: 1. It has an AERCO Easie-ST Ram upgrade board in it, that is no longer recognized. This board will use 1mb x 8 chips to take the system to 4mb (which is max for this machine). I lost my manual, and it isn't working anymore. I know it's a long shot, but does anyone have the manual for this, or can point me to where I can get a RAM upgrade for this old machine? 2. I'd like to throw an 80mb SCSI External drive I have on it, so I'm looking for a SCSI Adapter for an ST. $100 + s/h for a new(?) one from one of the remaining dealers is a bit steep... Does anyone know of a cheaper source for one, or have an old Atari Drive with a bad mechanism I can buy to salvage the adapter? Regards, Al Hartman P.S.: I have a paper tray for an HP IIIp printer (but not the actual mechanism to use it) if someone is still looking for one.

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OT, but couldn't resist

by mhstein＠canada.com

Couldn't resist sharing this: If Microsoft had been the first to invent books: 1. Before you can open the cover of your new book, you must obtain a book activation code by phoning Microsoft. 2. Sorry, only one person may ever read your book. 3. It's full of spelling mistakes and typos. 4. When you're reading your book, the words can mysteriously disappear. 5. Libraries, which are for sharing books, are illegal. 6. You must acknowledge you have read and understood the Book License Agreement Hype (BLAH) before you can read your book. 7. Microsoft has the right to enter your premises to conduct book inspections to make sure your book is being read in accordance with the BLAH. 8. The Book Users' Group General Alliance (BUGGA) calculates that the annual loss of revenues to Microsoft arising from BLAH violations in 2001 was $10.97 billion. 9. There are two versions of your book - the "Standard" and the "Pro" versions. In the standard version, those pages containing the most useful information have been stuck together. 10. Confidential information is inexplicably in bigger type that can be easily read by anyone glancing over your shoulder.

23 years, 3 months

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Prehistoric CAD system...

by bones＠northrock.bm

In the mid-1980's I lived in Lowell, MA and my then wife (and briefly, myself) worked for a circuit board design company. Their primary CAD system was a PDP-11 based system from a company called, I believe, Telesys. It was a very good system from my recollection; it used a dual-display concept which was very efficient and had extremely good performance. The actual design consoles looked a lot like arcade video game consoles. There was a small monochrome CRT on the lower panel which displayed menus which one used a light pen to navigate through, and which was also used for drawing. One saw the results in "realtime" on the larger colour screen, all very sharp. Does anyone here have any more info on these. I do recall this being a *very* good system, but I can't find mention in my web searches. Thanks, Dennis "Come all ye roving minstrels And together we will try To raise the spirit of the Earth And move the rolling Sky"

23 years, 3 months

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scanning microfiche

by norm-classiccmp＠docnorm.com

Brian Knittel and I have a few hundred fiche of IBM documentation and code relating to the 1130 (http://ibm1130.org). This is tens of thousands of pages that we'd love to get into a digital form -- in particular we want to get a few fiche done FAST because Brian borrowed them from someone else who won an interesting set at auction recently. My attempts to scan them with an Epson 2450 Photo have been unsatisfactory, apparently mostly because of slight focus issues that only become apparent at the highest resolutions, and I've started to believe that we need to use a real microfiche scanner to do the job. Unfortunately they're way expensive, and I can't think of buying one ... and service bureaus charge by the page, about $.10 per page to be exact. We need a cheaper option. So ... does anyone know of a fiche scanner that occasionally sits unused, that we could use? Or, does anyone have any better ideas? Thanks, Norm Aleks

23 years, 3 months

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6502 fans - the SBC-2 is about to have another run - order boards now!

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

For those who haven't been to http://65c02.tripod.com/ , the SBC-2 is a single-board 6502 with the following onboard: > > BTW, I haven't ordered parts yet (been swamped with stuff since I got > > laid off). The 6502 board I was mentioning is called the SBC-2. It's > > home is http://65c02.tripod.com/home.html I've been talking to Daryl > > and he has interest for 3 at the moment (including my 2, I think). If > > I haven't mentioned it to you, one of my goals is to hook a G321D LCD > > display to the SBC-2 and use it as a VT52 emulator for the SBC6120. > > Both are 100% CMOS. The G321D needs -24VDC, so I'll probably go with > > the DC-DC converter recommended by one of the project pages and use > > that to drive everything. It kicks out 3A @ +5VDC plus enough -24VDC > > to drive the G321D. Should run a flash card or a 2.5" IDE drive, too.

23 years, 3 months

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Is there such a thing as a ZIF socket for PLCC chips?

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

Something like a prebuilt 32-pin DIP -> 32-pin PLCC adapter wired 1:1 at http://www.emulation.com lists for $110. P/N AS-32-32-01P-3YAM-LN on their webstie. You can get PLCC ZIF sockets from http://www.arieselec.com One of their products is a universal 20-pin to 84-pin PLCC ZIF socket, P/N 84-537-21, which goes for $150 at http://www.mouser.com (plus $12 each for the various sized inserts). >From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Is there such a thing as a ZIF socket for PLCC chips? >Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:49:01 -0800 (PST) > >I am needing to burn PLCC-packaged chips in my DIP programmer. I >expect I need to locate a PLCC<->DIP adapter of the right size >(for 29C010 and 28F101 Flash chips, at the moment). Thinking about it >made me wonder if any of the sockets were ZIF or LIF. > >Any ideas? Any recommendation on a source for adapters? > >Thanks, > >-ethan

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I saw you post 12-17-02 about Intel 1602

by massimo.vettore＠zf.com

You could find information on Intel 8702A at the IMSAI web site http://www.imsai.net/support/support.htm look at Intel 8080 Microcomputer Systems User's Manual part 2 or straight http://www.imsai.net/support/device_specs/Intel8080Manual-2.pdf go to page 56 Regards Max ----- Original Message ----- Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 00:51:50 -0600 From: Alex Welti <lxwelti(a)comcast.net> Subject: I saw you post 12-17-02 about Intel 1602 To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >I have been handed down a room full of electronics - my >brother-in-law's father passed away - and I am the nearest relative who >has a career in electronics, so... I am spending my evenings going >through and identifing parts, most of which I am familiar with and have >datasheets on. However, I can't find anything on these i C8702A. A >web search brought me to your posting. I am hoping you have a datasheet >or know where I should go to find one. > >Thanks, >Alex

23 years, 3 months

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Data Conversion, Inc DT2861-60Hz available

by red＠bears.org

I have in my grubby paws a Data Conversion, Inc. ISA boardset that anybody on the list may have for 1.2x the cost of shipping it. Model DT2861-60Hz, plus unknown model daughterboard with a bunch of memory on, plus DT2878-4 with TI DSP on. Board has DA-15M and DE-9M connectors. It is surplus from Boeing, in Kent, WA. The manufacturer is still in business and probably will still send you software, though the option isn't there on their website. http://www.datx.com I'm throwing the boards away if nobody takes them. ok r.

23 years, 3 months

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scanning microfiche

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

I own a scanner capable of scanning 'fiche... It scans up to 19,200dpi.. The problem is that it is on the second floor of the building my work is in, and it weighs 1,450 pounds or so... It also needs a new optical drive. Will J _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

23 years, 3 months

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Gathering Classic Computer Info

by patrick＠evocative.com

Judging from the level of disagreement on many recent topics, it appears that we all need a distraction! :-) I would like to solicit your help. As part of my research for a project that will benefit this Classic Computer Community, I am trying to assemble an exhaustive database of companies who manufactured what is now classic computer hardware and software. For the moment, I am focusing only on hardware. Software will be the next project. I am seeking to bring together a small part of your collective knowledge and expertise. I have built a simple web page that will collect the names of manufacturers and products. Please go to http://gatekeeper.evocative.com:8080/research and dump your brain! All manufacturers and products are fair game, and in fact, the more obscure the better. Please accept my apologies in advance for the simplistic (crude) interface, but this is simply a data collection exercise and I did not waste much time on flourish. When the project is complete, this data will be cleaned up and made available to anyone who cares to have it. This data will not be sold, it will be free. The site does not collect any personal information; your submissions are completely anonymous. Thanks in advance for your help! Patrick KIM-1 * North Star Horizon * Heath ET-3400 * Rockwell AIM-65 * Heath/Zenith H/Z-88/9 P.S. I'm sure I've missed a plethora of categories; please email me your suggestions using the link on that page.

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Request for help with a PDP 11/73

by chu＠verizon.net

I just bought a PDP 11/73, but unfortunately UPS dropped it on the way. So I am trying to what ever documentation and diagnostics that I can locate to figure out how badly it was damaged. The mounts for the tape drive and disk drive were broken as well as all of the external plastic. The machine powers up and goes through some self diagnostics, stopping with the LED's reading "01". The disk drive stays quite and unlit, my conclusion was that it appears dead. I am looking for any help that I can get. TIA, Dave Chu

23 years, 3 months

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AU subscribers Newsletter (fwd again) (fwd)

by spectre＠stockholm.ptloma.edu

I got this message on one of the Commodore mailing lists. This may arrive too late, but may be of (significant) interest to Commodore and Amiga folks. Hello, Commodorians, The following has not been verified yet, but it seems that Centsible Software, the largest vendor of C= and Amiga software, might be the target of an unfriendly buy-out, unfriendly meaning that the new owner has no concern for the C=/Ami community. Read on and decide, Robert Bernardo Fresno Commodore User Group http://videocam.net.au/fcug ====================================================================== ________ _________ ____ _|__ __ __|_______ _________ __\ _____ \\\\ \_ _/ //___// _____//______\ _____ \\ // \\\\ /. \\\\__ \/ __// \\ \\____. /// \\\\ /. \\ \\___\O /___///___\ /___\ \\_________//\\___\O /___// O \/ O O \/. |O O|z!o O O \/ O A M I G A | 030204 | U P D A T E |________| "SO THE WORLD MAY KNOW" ====================================================================== AMIGA and the Amiga logo are trademarks of Amiga, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- C E N T S I B L E B U Y O U T H E L P R E Q U E S T C E N T S I B L E B U Y O U T U P D A T E Editor's Thoughts and Introduction: We received the following notes from Bill Griffin too late to include in the last issue. As a well known member of the Amiga community, we would have included at least the first note in the issue had we seen it in time. We are treating this as a news item, not as an endorsement on our part of Bill's requests. If you choose to participate, it is your decision and at your own risk, as is the case in any business arangement. We have carried offers from Amiga Inc. as part of news stories, and similarly for other companies as part of news stories. The situation at Centsible is certainly newsworthy, so news this is. Since one of the founding principles of Amiga Update is to get news out when it's fresh, not necessarily on a regular schedule, we are providing this information while it's new and still relevant to the community. Best of luck to all concerned!! Brad Webb, Editor =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- C E N T S I B L E B U Y O U T H E L P R E Q U E S T 2 Feb 2003 I'm sorry I'm contacting you after you have already put out the AU newsletter, but I am in desperate needof help from our Amiga Brethern. AS you know, I am the publisher of "the NEW AMIGANS" magazine. What you might not know is that I am also working at Centsible software part-time. I was recently informed by Scott (the owner) that another party has made an offer for the company. At first, I thought I would simply have to contact them and get new advertising set up. But I found out just Thursday that the other party intends to dissolve the company and sell off the inventory on ebay "a little at a time" over the course of several years. Now Centsible is the only remaining source (as far as I know) for several of the custom chips that are needed to maintain our Amigas (as well as for C64s and C128s). If the other party takes the inventory, and one of our computers break down, we may be SOL on getting them repaired (unless the chips needed JUST HAPPEN to be on ebay at that moment). Scott told me that if I can match their offer of $2,000 down and $2,000 on delivery of inventory, he would finance the rest of the buyout (at 0% interest). Now I can scrape together about $1,000. But that would be needed for opening the new store location (rent, utilities, phones, etc). I have a person who is offering the loan me $2,000 but it will take time to get the money out of his investments for me to use. Scott has told me that whoever gets the first $2,000 to him gets the company. I have already put out a plea to as many Amigans as I have email addresses. And have been able to raise just under $1,000. I know you can reach many more Amigans than I have addresses for. Could you PLEASE rebroadcast this emergeny plea ASAP. For the contributors I have the following proposal: There are several fully functional computers in this inventory. I am willing to offer choice of those units (I would need at least one to run the business, but the rest would be up for grabs) to anyone who contributes more than $100 or so (on a first donated, first to choose basis). For the $50 and up crowd, I would also include the A500s (I know of at least 5) and some software to make it a bit fairer. If the computer you like isn't available by the time the order works down to you, I would offer store credit (possibly in the form of 125% or so - of what you contributed, or a repayment of 110% of what you contributed over the course of a year (much better than the stcok funds are now offering). Any contributions under $50.00 (I'm open to all Amigans - my finances are tight now too). I would offer the store credit (of 125% of their investment) or 110% repayment at the end of the first year (so I don't have to write out so many checks each month). I ask those who are interested to contribute via PayPal (simply because it is the fastest way to get the money to me - and its a case of who has the money in hand first that counts on this deal). If anyone wants to send a check I would need it here via overnight in order to ensure I have the money before the other person does. And, of course, if I lose the purchase, I will immediately refund any and all contributions sent. My main purpose here is to prevent our Amiga resources from dwindling down much further until the new Amigas can take a toe-hold. To make your paypal contributions (of ANY size) simply go to the paypal website and click on send money. Use my email address (wd8izh(a)beanstalk.net) in the "Pay To:" section and follow the rest ofthe instructions. PLEASE don't let this important parts and software resource die. Help me maintain the integrity of the dealership know as Centsible Software. Finally, because the other party is NOT and Amiga user, BUT DOES auction Amiga stuff, I have reason to believe that he follows the Amiga News Groups. Sinsce I don't want to end up lossing the company to a "bidding war" I ask that nobody place this on an NG. But PLEASE forward it to EVERY Amigan and C64/c128 user you know. Thank you --------- Its gonna be a heck of a century! Bill Griffin, G&G Publishing Enterprises Home of "the NEW AMIGANS" magazine Ask about our new, US-based, Amiga Magazine Or check out our website at http://get.to/t.n.a .. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- C E N T S I B L E B U Y O U T U P D A T E 3 Feb 2003 So far we have raise only $700 of what is needed for the downpayment on Centsible. I have found an investor who can get another $2,000 to me in about 2 weeks. Scott has now told me that He will not be making any calls to the other party to get money from them until the weather clears. Which he doesn't see hapening for at least a week. However, if the other party send the money to secure the deal (on their own) Scott will be obligated to honor the deal and we will lose Centsible Software forever. This affords us a SLIGHT chance to finish up the job and save Centsible Software. It also means that those of you out there who want to help, but don't have credit cards (or who don't want to go through PayPal) have a chance to get in on this deal. I have enough time (barely) to accept contributions via mail. I will simply hold the checks (uncashed) until I either get enough to complete the deal, or the other party gets their money in first. If that happens, I simply send back the uncashed checks. This way, if any of you have interest earning checking, you won't even lose the interest on your money. Again, I am willing to accept help in any dollar amount and all the terms I stated in my proposal apply. I only ask that, if you send help via the post office, you email me and let me know it as well. To send your help via mail, send it to: Bill Griffin PO Box 447 Edwardsburg, MI 49112-0447 And put the words "Centsible Buyout" on the memo line. PLEASE rebroadcast and forward to as many Amiga and C64 enthusiasts as you possibly can. And thank you, in advance, for all your help. ------------ Its gonna be a heck of a century! Bill Griffin, G&G Publishing Enterprises Home of "the NEW AMIGANS" magazine Ask about our new, US-based, Amiga Magazine Or check out our website at http://get.to/t.n.a .. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Amiga Update on the net: All back issues available at: http://www.globaldialog.com/~amigaupdate/index.html Stop by and check out our archive! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright 2003 by Brad Webb. Freely distributable, if not modified. ====================================================================== _ __ _ <>_ __ _ A M I G A /\\ |\ /|| || / ` /\\ A M I G A U P D A T E /__\\ | \ / || || || ___ /__\\ U P D A T E / \\_ | \/ ||_ _||_ \__// / \\_ amigaupdate(a)globaldialog.com -- ----------------------------- personal page: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Point Loma Nazarene University * ckaiser(a)stockholm.ptloma.edu -- I can't walk a mile in their shoes. They smell funny. ----------------------

23 years, 3 months

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FW: Some old computer stuff...

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

The following message is from a gentleman who is interested in selling a 286 based laptop of unknown provenance. If you are interested please contact him directly at the email address given below. Thank you, Erik -----Original Message----- From: Randy Kaufman [mailto:krandy@CLEMSON.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:54 PM To: webmaster(a)vintage-computer.com Subject: Some old computer stuff... Erik, I have an old 'portable' PC. It is 286-based, has a 20M hard drive, 5 1/4 floppy and LCD screen. No idea who made it, as there is no name on it. Saw a picture of one on the web, but it had the name 'TRAVELLER' on it. Looks and works great. If you are interested, let me know. Thanks! Randy Kaufman krandy(a)clemson.edu

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OT: RE: Collecting, Hacking and the Spooks (was: Gulf War, dummie s,

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 08:37 AM 2/5/03 -0700, you wrote: >New York Times >June 11, 2001 > >Court Restricts Heat-Sensor Searches >By David Stout > >WASHINGTON -- The Supreme Court today reiterated the right of privacy in the >age of technology, ruling in an Oregon drug case that the police cannot use >a heat-seeking device to probe the interior of a home without a search >warrant. They restricted the use of HEAT SENSORS but they did not restrict the police from using estimates of exceesive power usage by the power companies. That's how they "caught" Zane. The thermal imaging sensors would have probably shown that the source was a computer and not growing plants. BTW they also use both technologies for detecking stills built inside of homes. Joe

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More Amiga finds and a some great articles to read

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Today I was able to find the keyboard and monitor for the 2000HD I got yesterday. Stopped at Borders Book store and found the January 2003 Nuts & Volts has a good article on the Altair 880 titled MICRO MEMORIES. Maloney's Antiques & Collectibles Resource Directory list Computers as a collectable and points several people we all know as experts and recommends books and sites to check out. Also while there looked in Warman's Flea Market Price Guide 2nd Edition (2001) it also list computers as something to look for but boy the prices they give way out of range. Here's are some: a Mac 128 $350, a Mac Plus $50, a IIc $65, a Atari XL800 $125, and a Epson HX-40 $125. Check it out for the remaining ones.

23 years, 3 months

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PDP-8: (and others) anyone tried NVRAM simulation of hard drives?

by djg＠drs-esg.com

From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> > >As to Will's original question, I myself have wondered what it >would take to design/build a compatible device. ... >One thing that has been slowing me down is >deciding how to attach a modern device to an -8/L or -8/i - > I would recommend getting the DEC compatable cards for Dougless Electronics to plug into the 8/I and wiring them to another circuit card. With a bank of transistors you can convert from the negative bus to TTL and put a small FPGA/CPLD on the board to do all the work. Attach to that your storage of choice and your all set. A fast microcontroller might also be an option and might be needed if you want to do things like IDE/CF to emulate DF32/RF08. Might need to be a little careful that modern fast logic doesn't see/make glitches on the bus. For my online PDP-8/E the board I made is a Xilinx CPLD (they have cheap/free tools and I have the pay stuff at work) which emulated the front panel and also was a single cycle data break master for data transfers. Most of the 8/I peripherals were 3 cycle that wouldn't be too hard to do. I used a little adapter board to convert the PLCC to a PGA and then wirewrapped. I have also seen a bunch of ads for real cheap PCB prototypes if you have confidence in your design. Anybody who wants my code can have it but it is ugly. I first tried another chip and coded it in that language but the tools were too bad so switched to Xilinx and Abel. David Gesswein http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Run an old computer with blinkenlights.

23 years, 3 months

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MicroVAX 3800 Power Cable

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Feb 5, 13:07, Eric Smith wrote: > Owen wrote about the notched power connector: > > 20A rated. > > That makes more sense than high-temp, but I'm a little surprised > as IEC 60320-1 (formerly IEC 320) only covers plugs and sockets up > to 16A. Is there another standard that covers the 20A variant? There isn't a 20A variant here :-) In Europe (where the standard comes from!), there are two versions. As I recall: The first you commonly see on electronic equipment, which was originally rated for 6A (IIRC) and later I think up to 10A or 12A (*providing* the cable is also suitable for that current). There are "hot condition" and "cold condition" variants, the "hot condition" being the one for appliances like kettles, platewarmers, etc, which get hot (or warm, at least) and which has a notch in it, to prevent a normal "cold condition" plug being used in error. Although you rarely see hot-condition plugs rated less than 10A or so, that's because you need a 10A rating or more for a kettle element, not because the hot-condition plugs are designed for high current and cold-condition ones for low current (as some people mistakenly think). Eric (Smith) is correct, the difference with the notch is purely temperature rating; maximum current rating catered for by the standard is the same in each case. Be aware, however, that while there are few 6A hot-condition cables, there are quite a lot of 5A/6A cold-conditon ones; indeed they're the most common here, being supplied with every Sun, PC, monitor, network switch, and many domestic electronic devices. Don't chop a lump out of the edge of one of those and expect it to handle 10A safely. Look at the printing on the socket first. The second version is a little larger, has the pins at right angles to the pins in the 10A version, and is rated 16A. In the USA, both versions are allowed higher current ratings, so what you call a 20A version is what we rate for 16A here. This is a result of the USA using an inferior voltage standard, requiring higher currents and leading to greater losses :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

23 years, 3 months

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Replacment battery for HP 32 E

by koub＠earthlink.net

I have a HP 32 E in excellent condition. My only trouble is the original battery willn ot hold a charge. How do I go about replacing it? Keith L. Wagner 5680 Walnut Ave. Chino Ca. 91710 e-mail <koub(a)earthlink.net>

23 years, 3 months

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[OT] Update on White LEDz...

by zmerch＠30below.com

Classiccmp Dudez/Dudettez... Just wanted to say thankz on the help y'all gave me WRT the white LEDz question I posed earlier... Lotsa info I need to sort out in the old, tired head of mine... ... but for anyone else who's interested in stuff like that, thru further googling I stumbled across this site: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi A forum all about -- you guessed it! -- different lighting techniques including white LEDz... Anywho, thanks for all the help, and as things progress... Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers zmerch(a)30below.com What do you do when Life gives you lemons, and you don't *like* lemonade?????????????

23 years, 3 months

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Gathering Classic Computer Info

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Needs a working url: Dwight >From: "Patrick Rigney" <patrick(a)evocative.com> > >Judging from the level of disagreement on many recent topics, it appears >that we all need a distraction! :-) > >I would like to solicit your help. As part of my research for a project >that will benefit this Classic Computer Community, I am trying to assemble >an exhaustive database of companies who manufactured what is now classic >computer hardware and software. For the moment, I am focusing only on >hardware. Software will be the next project. > >I am seeking to bring together a small part of your collective knowledge and >expertise. I have built a simple web page that will collect the names of >manufacturers and products. > >Please go to http://gatekeeper.evocative.com:8080/research and dump your >brain! All manufacturers and products are fair game, and in fact, the more >obscure the better. Please accept my apologies in advance for the >simplistic (crude) interface, but this is simply a data collection exercise >and I did not waste much time on flourish. > >When the project is complete, this data will be cleaned up and made >available to anyone who cares to have it. This data will not be sold, it >will be free. The site does not collect any personal information; your >submissions are completely anonymous. > >Thanks in advance for your help! >Patrick > >KIM-1 * North Star Horizon * Heath ET-3400 * Rockwell AIM-65 * Heath/Zenith >H/Z-88/9 > >P.S. I'm sure I've missed a plethora of categories; please email me your >suggestions using the link on that page.

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OT: PowerBook G3 parts

by dtwright＠uiuc.edu

Hello, I just got a bronze keyboard (Lombard) G3 powerbook, sans cdrom drive, battery, and AC adapter. Does anyone have parts for this machine or know of a good source to get them from? - Dan Wright (dtwright(a)uiuc.edu) (http://www.uiuc.edu/~dtwright) -] ------------------------------ [-] -------------------------------- [- ``Weave a circle round him thrice, / And close your eyes with holy dread, For he on honeydew hath fed, / and drunk the milk of Paradise.'' Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Kubla Khan

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MicroVAX 3800 Power Cable

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

> Be careful, though; sometimes these things really do want power cords > that can carry more current. I notched a cord once to replace a cord > that went missing when the NCR Tower went to a trade show. It worked, > but a couple days later I got a "smells like smoke in the lab" report > and found it had browned a bit. Ohyeah... in Holland, we use 220VAC, so half the amps.. --f

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Annex 3 terminal server

by toby＠russellsharpe.com

Hi, I've got an old Annex 3 terminal server which I'd like to connect to my PDP-11 so I can have telnet access into it. Trouble is, I don't have any software with the Annex and I can't work out how to configure the beast. Anyone have any experience with them or suggestions as to how I can get hold of the configuration software? Thanks, Toby

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MicroVAX 3800 Power Cable

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Fred N. van Kempen" <Fred.van.Kempen(a)microwalt.nl> wrote: > Yes, and likewise for all BA440-based VAX 4000 systems. Just grab > a kitchen knife (warn the wife first.. she might get scared) and > cut a notch. Works for me and the 3400 :) Be careful, though; sometimes these things really do want power cords that can carry more current. I notched a cord once to replace a cord that went missing when the NCR Tower went to a trade show. It worked, but a couple days later I got a "smells like smoke in the lab" report and found it had browned a bit. -Frank McConnell

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Things FS (dec, ncd, sun, chips), and Info requested

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>X-Server-Uuid: 03162E99-F22F-4D28-9C2E-3682E73B502C >From: "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com> >To: "'dwightk.elvey(a)amd.com'" <dwightk.elvey(a)amd.com> >Subject: RE: Things FS (dec, ncd, sun, chips), and Info requested >Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:25:27 -0700 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-WSS-ID: 125F5EDD1612440-01-01 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >See below. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dwight K. Elvey [mailto:dwightk.elvey@amd.com] >Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 2:58 PM >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Subject: Re: Things FS (dec, ncd, sun, chips), and Info requested > > >>From: "Patrick Finnegan" <pat(a)purdueriots.com> >> >>First, the question. Look for "SELLING" below for what I have 'for sale'. >> >> I've managed to pick up a TECMAR, Inc. "LAB TENDER COMP" card for the >>IBM PC (8bit ISA interface) but I don't have any docs on it. There's a >>total of 5 34pin headers on the card, a bunch of 7400 seris logic, an >>AM9513, AM8255A-5, 5xTL084CJ, 4xHEF4051BP chips, and 3x8switch > ^^^^^^ > Math processor?? > Dwight > >>dip-switches. Does anyone know what this is and/or have software/docs for >>it? > > >[Robert Feldman] <Snip> Please? > Hi I was incorrect, a quick search shows that it is a timer chip( 9513 ). The 8255's are parallel I/O chips. The 4051's are analog multiplexers. The TL084's are Op-Amps. Other than that, I have no idea what it does. If there was a A/D chip mixed in with the TTL, I'd think it was a multi channel A/D board. Dwight

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OT: RE: Collecting, Hacking and the Spooks (was: Gulf War, dummie s,

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

>I use my 14" 6 platter 300MB DASD as a centrifuge for uranium enrichment. > > --John Be careful with that uranium hexaflouride... Besides, if you want to enrich uranium at a decent rate, you really need a significant amount of drives.. Will J _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Emulex QD 211

by fm.arnold＠gmx.net

>Message: 16 >From: Innfogra(a)aol.com >Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 21:29:26 EST >Subject: Emulex QD 211 >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > > >The actual number is QD2110202-00 rev L. From the connectors it is either >ESDI or a MFM hard disk controller for Qbus but I am not sure which. > IIRC the small 10 pin connectoris is for a console-CRT. Has the same pinning as DLV11-J and will work independent of host-sw, only power to QD21 applied is enough. Used for configuration ect. Connect a terminal, and see what it says to you. Will see if I find some Doc's on this. If its ok, its a very useful module. Frank

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MicroVAX 3800 Power Cable

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> What's needed for this list is the URL of someone selling these > cords. Noone has found one yet. Check HP resellers (and not because HP now owns DEC). The cable I got for this originally came from a semi-modern HP workstation. Zane

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OT: RE: Collecting, Hacking and the Spooks (was: Gulf War,

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> At 08:37 AM 2/5/03 -0700, you wrote: > >New York Times > >June 11, 2001 > > > >Court Restricts Heat-Sensor Searches > >By David Stout > > > >WASHINGTON -- The Supreme Court today reiterated the right of privacy in the > >age of technology, ruling in an Oregon drug case that the police cannot use > >a heat-seeking device to probe the interior of a home without a search > >warrant. > > > They restricted the use of HEAT SENSORS but they did not restrict the > police from using estimates of exceesive power usage by the power > companies. That's how they "caught" Zane. The thermal imaging sensors > would have probably shown that the source was a computer and not growing > plants. BTW they also use both technologies for detecking stills built > inside of homes. I didn't know I'd been "caught", that was Sridhar and his IBM ES9000. I'm the one that asked how long before some of us do run into this problem due to power usage or heat output, and it looks like the answer is it has already happened thanks to power usage. I do know though, that with having 4-5 computers running 24x7, I've got to have abnormal power usage (not to mention how hellish my electric bills are getting). Zane

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Things FS (dec, ncd, sun, chips), and Info requested

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Patrick Finnegan" <pat(a)purdueriots.com> > >First, the question. Look for "SELLING" below for what I have 'for sale'. > > I've managed to pick up a TECMAR, Inc. "LAB TENDER COMP" card for the >IBM PC (8bit ISA interface) but I don't have any docs on it. There's a >total of 5 34pin headers on the card, a bunch of 7400 seris logic, an >AM9513, AM8255A-5, 5xTL084CJ, 4xHEF4051BP chips, and 3x8switch ^^^^^^ Math processor?? Dwight >dip-switches. Does anyone know what this is and/or have software/docs for >it? > >SELLING > >+ Digital SC008-AB, one with an "A" and one with a "B" on it, has many >(maybe 20) TNC Jacks monted on it, some with 'terminators' on it. Does >anyone know what this is? I'm intrigued by it. > $5 each + shipping > >+ Digital M8210 - 32kW (72bit words) MOS memory for a VAX-11/780. It's > still sealed in an anti-static bag, so I assume it's in excellent > condition. > $5 + shipping > >+ NCD 19c Xterminal, no cables. Uses a sync-on-green monitor, does color, > has AUI/10Base2 network connectors, uses standard PS/2 style keyboard > and a 9pin serial (pc-like) mouse. > ** Based off of Motorola 88100 processor ** > $10 + shipping > >+ 4 x Sun SparcStation 5, 64MB RAM, CG6 framebuffer, 2GB Seagate ST32550WC > hard drive. These are working, but don't have an OS installed for > licensing reasons. I can install Debian Linux (base install) on them > if interested (for free!). > $15 each + shipping, > also have some parts (lots of CG6's), email if interested. > >+ 6 x Sun SparcStation 5 power supplies (PN 300-1215-02): > ratings are +5V @ 25A, +12V @ 2.3A(Max 4A), -12V @ 0.25A > max continuous 150.2W, max output <15sec 174.2W > $5 each + shipping > >+ Not really classic, but I've got a lot of RJ45->DE9-F cisco console > cables, and 48VDC, 0.3A table-top 'wall wart' power supplies. I figured > that they might be of some use to list readers, and wanted to do this > before they go onto eBay. > $5 for one + shipping, or make me an offer for >1. > >+ VME Boards - have socketed chips that are re-usable: > > > PE/IO: > 1 x MC68881RC15A - math coprocessor > 1 x MC68901P > 2 x MC68230P10 - 68k 'parallel port' chip > 1 x PAL16R4CN -\ > 1 x PAL14L4NC --+- does anyone know if they're erasable? > 1 x PAL16R6NC -/ > 2 x D8293 --\ > 1 x P8291A ---+-- Intel GPIB chips > > parallel ports: > 2 x MC68230P10 > n x 74LS00 series logic IC's > > net interface: > 2 x MC68230P10 > n x 74LS00 series logic IC's > > DMA interface: > n x 74LS00 series logic IC's > > 68010 board: > 1 x MC68010L10 > 4 x KM6264L-15 8k x 8 150ns SRAM > 4 x M5L2764 8k x 8 EPROM > 1 x 5.0688MHz oscillator > > 68000 board: > mostly same as the 68010 board, except with MC68000P8 instead > > I also have a couple of prototyping (wire-wrap) VME boards. You can >see everything I have at http://purdueriots.com/mvme/ including (fuzzy) >pictures of the boards. I'd like to get $5 per board + shipping to >recuperate my costs. I can do cheaper for large quantites. > > ** The CPU boards have custom-developed console 'debuggers' that use > the RS-232 port on the CPU card as a console. They *require* that > a PE/IO board be connected to the VME bus in order to 'initialize'. > You could, of course get around this by replacing the ROMs. > >If (when) I get multiple offers, I'll try to choose fairly who gets the >stuff, or divide it up if there's multiple people interested > >Thanks for listening! > >Pat >Lafayette, IN, USA 47904 >-- >Purdue Universtiy ITAP/RCS >Information Technology at Purdue >Research Computing and Storage >http://www-rcd.cc.purdue.edu

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OT: RE: Collecting, Hacking and the Spooks (was: Gulf War,

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Bryan Pope" <bpope(a)wordstock.com> > >And thusly Joe spake: >> >> plants. BTW they also use both technologies for detecking stills built >> inside of homes. > >How much power / heat does a distiller use / generate?! > >Cheers, > >Bryan > Hi Most are not very efficient and generate quite a bit of heat. Remember, they are interested in ones that generates commecial quantities on Moon shine and not some chemistry experiment. Dwight

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MicroVAX 3800 Power Cable

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

Owen, > I have a MicroVAX 3800 in really good shape that I would like > to be able to use, but I have a problem. The power connector > looks like a standard grounded power cable connector, but has > been made in such a way that the power cable must have a notch > on the top in order to plug in. Yes, and likewise for all BA440-based VAX 4000 systems. Just grab a kitchen knife (warn the wife first.. she might get scared) and cut a notch. Works for me and the 3400 :) Cheers, Fred

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Any Amiga users on this list?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> I play games on mine mostly, but want to get a HD to do some programming on > the system. Flipping floppies is starting to get annoying. Is there a SCSI adapter for the A500, and how hard would it be to get? The HD expansions I've always seen don't strike me as being very reliable in this day and age. If you want to do programming, I'd recommend getting a newer Amiga, or doing it under Emulation. I've had Amiga OS 3.9 running on both my A3000/25 and on my PC, I hate to admit it, but unless you're running something that requires the HW, emulating the Amiga on a modern system blows the real HW away. I couldn't believe the difference. Of course I've got to admit, that you really should have an accelerator board, if you're going to try and run AmigaOS 3.9. Now what I'd like to get a chance to play with is Amiga OS 4.0 on the new hardware! I gather the OS will finally be released in March. Zane

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[cc] Re: [cc] RE: OT/Admin: tags

by Fred.van.Kempen＠microwalt.nl

> elm isn't a real mail client? It is. > But another problem with prepending something to the subject > line could be the recursing going on... Most mailing list software knows how to do that. --f

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New Finds This week

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Yesterday was pretty good and I got the following items: Amiga 200HD cpu only no KB, mouse, or monitor with it. KAYPRO 4 in great physical shape not powered up yet. Tandy 1000 RL Hard Drive cpu only. Data Book Computer model 486-DBA looks like a it was used as a LINUX box. 4- 486 notebooks; 2-Austin's, a Sharp, and a Compaq. No ac adapters with them. Sony Lasermax LDP-1450. AXIS StorPoint CD-rom server. Apple 800k external floppy drive. Bag of TI99/4A game cartridges. Have not looked through them yet. Some IBM PCjr stuff. A Convergent Technologies Motorola Information System 6300 tower (miniframe) with terminal but no KB or special power brick for it. A TAXAN 12" RGB monitor that works with Apple, IBM, or NEC PC8001 computers. Several mice and mousepads for that part of the collection. Found a recycler that is going out of business and he has about 8 HP racks on wheels (all empty) for only $5 each and tons of more stuff. I will be making a second trip today I hope before it's all trashed.

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HP2000

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Since there appears to be interest on the list.... Perhaps Eric and I (and any other interested parties) should get together and create a document like "So, you want to run HP TSB?". We could get definitive answers to exactly what pieces/parts are required, put in some comparisons between the different versions, etc. Kind of a road map to help people get these systems running. Help them decide which version to try for, etc. I know I would have done just about anything for such a document when I got started... and had to learn along the way little things like F series can't run access, IOP firmware is only needed for access, E will only use 7900 or 2883 drives, etc. Stuff like that. WHICH brings me to the next point. HP/TSB had a rather cute RJE facility, where you could create programs for ... ummm what was it... I think a CDC or an IBM RJE device were the two supported.. and submit jobs to them and get the results back, either cards or printouts, etc. There was also some capability in this add-on for HP2000 to HP2000 communication. So if someone else gets an HP2000 system up, it would be rather cool to send jobs back and forth, tunneled across the net someway perhaps. Or, is there an IBM RJE I can dial and submit jobs to from my HP2000? Most kewl :) Jay West

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Request for Armed Guard highway escort (HP2100)

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Please god take me now I am a happy camper :) I'm posting this only because a few of the highly sought-after (by me) HP2100 systems have become available. Geoff has posted that he has one, and there is the nice one on ebay. I want to let folks know that I have made a deal to get the 2100 cpu I have been looking for along with some choice peripherals from Bill McDermith, so count me out of the running for Geoff's system and the one on ebay (and thanks for that sentiment Sellam!). My undying thanks to Bill! With what he is bringing, I would expect to finally have HP2000/Access TSB up and running again in fairly short order! So, since Bill will be bringing the system from his place, I would like to solicit volunteers from the list to ride motorcycles alongside his vehicle and carry a weapon, something of at least 7.62x54 caliber. Your job will be to shoot on sight anyone who approaches the vehicle with that crazed "I like old HP hardware" look in their eyes. When volunteering for escort duty, you must state the caliber of weapon you will be carrying, the range of states you're willing to escort through, and sign an affidavit that you have no interest in old HP hardware. I will personally escort him the last 100 miles, mosin-nagant in hand *GRIN*. On a more serious note - I personally think the system on Ebay would be a perfect catch for any HP enthusiasts. With the right mux card, it would be a great setup to run HP2000/E, nothing else required. Next to 2000/Access which requires the most elaborate hardware, 2000E is the best of the TSB systems I believe, and only requires one CPU, no IOP firmware, and no 1/2 tape drive. Of course, I think he's asking way too much for it, unless it can be verified to be in perfect working order - then, maybe $600 isn't SO bad. Just keep in mind that the drive on it is a 7900A, which has no automatic head locking mechanism. The heads extend quite easily, so just a few bumps and you'll be looking for new heads and a new fixed lower platter. More if it was actually powered up in that condition. Think I'm going to go tip a brew in honor of Bill McDermith! Thanks all! Jay West

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