- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I could use a copy myself, trying to get a stable system using system files >found on various hard drives is no fun. >Can anyone make it available for download? Preferably a .BIN image I can >burn on a PC or a self mounting image for the Mac (I don't have a CDR on >any of my macs). Putting 8.5 online for download may not be the greatest idea. Apple has NOT released it for free public access. You can get 7.5.3 for free from Apple's web site (as well as the .5 updater). That said, I am sure there are sites that already have 8.5 and other OS versions available to download. You just have to search thru the pirate sites. I can't quote any, but I'm 99.44% sure its available. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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new finds

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

Dave? Could you please contact me offlist at ETILLMAN(a)satx.rr.com (ICQ10460417). Might be interested in some of your sales items. Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, Texas, USA Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048 Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> -----Original Message----- From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:dwoyciesjes@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:10 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org; teoz(a)neo.rr.com ---ICQ# 905818

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MS DOS and disk drives maybe OT

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

I used OnTrack to expand my old 486SX BBS system to its first (WD) 720MB hard drive. Worked like a champ! Prior to that, I'd had 2 drives -- a Maxtor @ 120MB, and a Seagate 340MB. Both fell inside the design specs. Adding the 720MB drive on IDE2 (didn't even have a CD then...) was a pain before discovering OnTrack. Cheers! Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, Texas, USA Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048 Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> -----Original Message----- From: Doc Shipley [mailto:doc@docsbox.net] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 10:59 AM To: Classic Computers Subject: Re: MS DOS and disk drives maybe OT On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Ron Hudson wrote: > Please forgive me if this is Off Topic... > > > I have a 1 gig drive in a 486. The BIOS sees the whole 1.2 gig (wd > caviar 21200) > and I have set the parameters from the plate on the drive into the > bios... > > But FDISK insists that the drive is only 504 MB. Who ate half of my > disk drive?? Some BIOSen will only address 1024 cylinders, even if they "see" more. OnTrack, Drive Rocket, EZDrive, any of the drive overlay programs will get around that. -- Doc Shipley (( And when thou hack'st her box, thou shalt Austin, Texas )) lay that pipe with exceeding great vigour, (( yea, even unto the screaming and clawing doc(a)vaxen.net )) and biting. -- Cantrell

23 years, 1 month

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Apple IIe card

by rdd＠rddavis.org

A couple of weeks ago, I picked up an Apple LC II with a IIe card in it. Amazingly, this came with the original Apple multimedia package, including speakers, a CD-ROM drive, the Apple II floppy drive, complete with Y cable, and an external hard drive. Does anyone know if this IIe card is faster than the original IIe? It looks like a fun toy to play with. :-) On a related note (hopefully not too far OT), does anyone have a Mac OS 8.5 system/install CD, that will work with a non-G3 PowerPC (e.g. 7200/90), that they can clone for me? I'm willing to send some new blank CDs or a floppy copy of the software for the II/e board, etc. in exchange. One more question for the Apple gurus on this list: will a monitor used with an LC work with a IIgs? -- Copyright (C) 2002 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & rdd(a)rddavis.org 410-744-4900 her other creatures, using dogma to justify such http://www.rddavis.org beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

23 years, 1 month

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Tape media

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, so I sorted through my last weekend's bait, hooked up my new HSZ40 (with 50 GB in 4 StorageWorks boxes plus all sorts of tape drives, TSZ07, TLZ07, TZ68, and ~88) to my PC for FreeBSD. It's so much fun to read a 9-track reel from a FreeBSD PC (just too bad it doesn't have a transparent top cover to show off the reels). I have bulk-erased a bunch of TK50 tapes in the hopes that they would work as DLT III and IV tapes as well, but these drives still went into write-protect mode. Does anyone here know details about the DLT media? I mean it is a well-known fact (and I proved it to myself many times) that CompacTape I works just fine as CompacTape II. So why not as III and IV? Is it really the tape or might it be some notches on the cassette that are used to code the kind of tape? The problem is I didn't get any tape media for my nice DLT tape drives and this stuff is so darn expensive if bought new. Any ideas? regards, -Gunther

23 years, 1 month

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HP 97935 Media Module (Disk Pack)

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Picked up two of these yesterday. Anyone know what drive they fit? They have seven platters and are roughly 12" in diameter. Marked 404 Mb. Joe

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KayPro 16 was:Re: Kaypros

by garyvau＠yahoo.com

Just trying to the question about the different types of Kaypros. This is a list of machines KayPro made. Kaypro II Kaypro 10 Kaypro IV Kaypro 4 Kaypro 2 Kaypro 2X Kaypro Robie Kaypro 4X Kaypro 12X Kaypro 1 Kaypro 16 Kaypro PC Kaypro 2000 (laptop) I believe this covers all of the computers they made. I am guessing the person on the message section is trying to put together a collection of different KayPros Gary

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DEC Ethernet??? card

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

Just got one of these . . . if DEC fans want it you've got it for shipping. Looks like AUI and 10 base 2 outputs, barcode sticker has a number: 70-26691-01. FCC ID: A09DE100. Operators are standing by . . . Gary Hildebrand St. Joseph, MO

23 years, 1 month

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Microchannel board gone

by jpl15＠panix.com

The Microchannel Vid/Aud capture board thingy that I earlier advertised has been snarfed up like a raw chicken in a piranha pond. Just FYI - - - Cheerz John

23 years, 1 month

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Scientific Micro Systems boards?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Hi, I keep finding a lot of boards made by SMS and I'm wondering if they're worth picking up. A lot of them seem to be out of DEC systems and/or 8" floppy drive controllers that are used with DEC stuff. I usually leave them behind but I picked up one yesterday for parts. this one is a Q-bus card and has an AM2901ADC bit slice CPU, an Intel 8085, an intel 8155 and an Intel 8253. It says that it's model # FWD 0106, Assy # 000420-0001, Fab # 0004222 Rev C. Any thoughts on this? Joe

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Apple IIe card

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Does anyone know if this IIe card is faster than the original IIe? It >looks like a fun toy to play with. :-) I can't say for sure, but I don't think it is. >On a related note (hopefully not too far OT), does anyone have a Mac >OS 8.5 system/install CD, that will work with a non-G3 PowerPC >(e.g. 7200/90), that they can clone for me? Send me your address (offlist) and I'm sure you'll get something in the mail in a few days :-) >One more question for the Apple gurus on this list: will a monitor >used with an LC work with a IIgs? According to Apple... No. They specify that the IIgs RGB monitor is not compatible with the RGB in the Mac, so I infer that to mean the opposite to be true as well. I think the reason for it is the IIgs uses Analog RGB, while the Mac I believe uses Digital RGB. However, if your monitor happens to support Analog RGB, then you should be ok. There is of course a composite video port on the IIgs so you can connect to anything that supports composite video (TV or Apple II series monitor, or whatever). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 1 month

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Powering up for the first time

by kenziem＠sympatico.ca

I originally posted this the the comp.sys.ibm-as400 group but other than someone wanting the disks I hd no replies, so I'll try here. I have connected everything and it is now time to power up my AS400 9404. There were 6 disks in the box with it. I'm not certain I have picked the correct 3 to start. What message might I see if the disks are not loaded in the correct order? Or might there be a label on the drive that takes care of that? Is there any external markings, of jumpers that might indicate the correct order? If it works, is there a way to gt to single user mode, or bypass the password? If I I get stuck is there a way to cleanly shutdown? If all else fails is there any interest in 9404 parts? Mike -- Ottawa, Canada Collector of vintage computers http://www.ncf.ca/~ba600

23 years, 1 month

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Booting the HP 9000 K class

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, so, I turned on my new HP 9000 K/400 machine. This one is a nice rack with a Raid array built in and two nice DDS2 drives. Has 2 CPUs (could put in 2 more) chugging at 100 MHz (100 times 2 as fast as that C64 :-), FDDI, Ethernet, SCSI and serial line MUX. The powercord is a bit short so it didn't reach to my special receptacle bar behind the VAX 11/780. But easy to plug in the 4 internal cords separately. Came right up with HP-UX. It's a nice stand-alone machine, everything right there. I was wondering if there is some tool in HPUX that show you the load balancing between the CPUs? On Ultrix there is something called cpustat(8). I never really liked HP-UX so well (it brings up mixed memories.) What other OS would run on this type of machine? NetBSD? OpenBSD? I can never tell the many different 9000 machines with all this confusing numbering 9000/400 is an 800 machine and everything is called 9000 even if very different architecture. But I am afraid OpenBSD doesn't support it, right? I'd like to run a Microkernel (Mach) based OS on it, has anyone experience with the PA-RISC Mach based OSes? OTOH, I don't want to loose the HP-UX system to fall back on. Are there free old versions of HP-UX floating around? I have an HPUX CDROM in the drive, but it is 1 of 2 and I don't have the other one. And I figure there are licese keys needed when installing it freshly, right? Even though this is kind of a nice machine, I don't know where to house it anymore (DEC stuff is my normal line of business) So, what do people think of these machines? Are they fashionable? Are there any fans of those like there are for DEC gear? Anybody want to trade? An NVAX pedestal? cheers, -Gunther

23 years, 1 month

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RDRAM chips to give

by rhaffly＠cablenet-va.com

I am still interested in the chips, if they are still available. Contact me, intdoc(a)charter.net

23 years, 1 month

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B1965

by stevew＠ka6s.com

Alan, My name is Steven Wilson - I saw a post of yours dated 11/21/2002 looking for a B1965. I'm curious if you ever found one. I designed the machine. Steve Wilson stevew(a)ka6s.com

23 years, 1 month

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US Gov't/Navy DEC clearout

by melamy＠earthlink.net

don't be surprised if the lowly Rainbow is worth something one day even if it is a PC... Steve >--- Original Message --- >From: "Witchy" <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk> >To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> >Date: 3/21/03 1:17:08 AM > Well, I hope it all gets claimed - can't have DEC stuff being scrapped can >we! Unless its the PCs of course. > >adrian > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On >> Behalf Of Alan Perry >> Sent: 20 March 2003 22:07 >> To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org >> Subject: RE: US Gov't/Navy DEC clearout >> >> >> DRMO is the group at a US military base responsible for taking care of >> surplused equipment. Some of it ends up being auctioned, for example, >> through web sites like www.govliquidation.com. Some of it ends up >> disposed of as scrap. >> >> alan >> >> ---Original Message--- >> From: cctech(a)classiccmp.org >> To: cctech@classiccmp.org,cctalk@classiccmp.org >> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:05:15 -0000 >> Subject: RE: US Gov't/Navy DEC clearout >> >> Hi folks, >> >> Got this from a contractor working for the navy; how he found me before >> he >> found any other place that collects DEC stuff I don't know :) >> >> Replies to email address he's given me (suttonmr(a)navair.navy.mil), >> particularly as I don't know what the DRMO is! Pity there won't be any >> disks >> in that haul 'cos I could really do with some RZ29Bs....oh well. >> 'Course, it >> might also just be PCs. >> >> ------ >> realname: CECIL FINLEY >> email: ccfinley(a)bellsouth.net >> message: I'm a contractor for the US gov't and they are in the process of >> getting rid of a load of DEC equipement. You could get these items >> through >> the DRMO, but you'd have to pick them up and ship them personally. >> Contact: >> suttonmr(a)navair.navy.mil for further details. >> ------ >> >> cheers >> >> -- >> adrian/witchy >> www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum >> www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans

23 years, 1 month

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Freeware CDs for RSX-11 and RT-11

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

The last two times I posted this, another person contacted me either for help or to request the CDs. I will post this about once a week until no one replies. In regard to the Freeware CDs for RSX-11 and RT-11 that Tim Shoppa originally produced: I am in the middle of making up a second (very small) batch of CDs and could easily add a few additional copies. I will be making all copies of the CD images from: ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/cd-images/ http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/ http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RSX-11/ Since not everyone has both a high speed internet connection and a CD burner, I thought it would be helpful to make them available. If you have both requirements and are using Windows 98 SE / Nero Burning, I can help with the details if you don't know how to burn a CD from an "Image File". I have even been able to produce a label for each CD that is close to the original label from Tim Shoppa, although since they were scanned (THANK YOU FOR THE HELP), they are not perfect. They are available at $ 5 / $ 9 / $ 12 for 1 / 2 / 3 CDs. In addition, I understand that Memorex Black CD-Rs have a longer shelf life and are available at Business Depot. If anyone wants those instead, add $ 1 for each CD that you are requesting. Thus those amounts are $ 6 / $ 11 / $ 15 Please contact me directly for my snail mail address. I can also accept VISA and Master Card, but please don't send me the credit card number via e-mail since the information is not secure. Does anyone know of a way to send credit card numbers in a secure way via an e-mail? I just picked up some Memorx CD-R blanks and started on the copies for those who have already requested that a Black CD-R be used. Please include your mailing address!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In general, I will regard any funds you send as a gift so that if anyone really can't afford the CDs, please state why that is so. Outside of the US, probably about $ 2 should be sufficient for extra postage. All amounts are in US dollars. Please ask if you are not in the US. No point in converting twice. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

23 years, 1 month

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DEC 7000 (AXP) startup

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Turns out that this machine once ran under OSF/1 as all the disk > had OSF/1 bootblocks on them. But unfortunately none of the disks > I had left were actually bootable (missing osf_boot or causing > some panic. So, my question is, where can I get a UNIX system > for this machine? Are there any copies of OSF (bootables) around? > How about DEC-UNIX? NetBSD/Alpha (or FreeBSD for that matter) > won't run until we have fixed lack of an XMI bus driver. Are > there any port-alpha people who are working on this XMI issue? (On > the port-vax side it depends mainly on Ragge and the very few folks > with VAX6000s to do that.) DEC/Compaq used to offer Tru64 Hobbyist for about $100. It included CD's and permanent license PAKs. Unfortunatly I don't know if they still offer it, or where to get info on it. Besides, why waste nice HW like that with Unix, put OpenVMS on it :^) Zane

23 years, 1 month

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eBay: Multiple big VAXen

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

Search for items for seller: jcmparts I think this is the same seller that had the huge load of DEC parts up for auction a while ago that people on the list considered going in together to buy. "26,000 Tested DEC parts" or something like that. I think all of the current VAX item descriptions state that they are missing at least a few or many parts. But they still might be interesting to VAX collectors. >Some guy is unloading a bunch of VAXen on eBay: 780, 785, 750, 8650. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 1 month

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Auction Finds Today

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

At a school auction today I got the following: Sencore model CR133 CRT tester with service manual and set-up card. A Overland Data 1600/3200 tape drive model OD3201. Seems to power on find now locate manuals for it. A EzBook notebook by CTX missing harddrive. They had 75 pallets of computer stuff and some people purchased 5 pallet lots for $2.50 plus 1-% and taxes.

23 years, 1 month

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Commodore V364 at $3050 on eBay

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

The guy is asking $5000 Buy-It-Now for this machine. He has an offer of $3050 but it's too low. It's getting too expensive. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3407279765&category=4193

23 years, 1 month

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eBay: Multiple big VAXen

by jss＠subatomix.com

Some guy is unloading a bunch of VAXen on eBay: 780, 785, 750, 8650. He's also got the Wang VS7110 that was mentioned earlier. Low opening bids, apparently located in Waltham, MA, USA. Not related to me. No links provided; searching eBay is easy enough. -- Jeffrey Sharp

23 years, 1 month

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KayPro 16 was:Re: Kaypros

by melamy＠earthlink.net

1982: March - Non-Linear Systems introduces the Kaypro II for US$1795. 1983: June - Non-Linear Systems introduces the Kaypro 4, like the Kaypro II but with 380KB double-sided disk drives. Price is US$1995. 1983: June - Non-Linear Systems introduces the Kaypro 10, like the Kaypro 4 but with one 380KB double-sided disk drive and a 10-MB internal hard drive. Price is US$2795. Weight is 31 pounds. >from http://oldcomputers.net/kayproii.html >--- Original Message --- >From: Don Maslin <donm(a)cts.com> >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Date: 3/22/03 12:28:52 PM > On Sat, 22 Mar 2003, Hans B Pufal wrote: > >> Gary wrote: >> > Just trying to the question about the different types of Kaypros. >> > This is a list of machines KayPro made. >> >> KayComp (as per message form Don Maslin) ? >> > Kaypro II June 1982* >> > Kaypro 10 ? >> > Kaypro IV ? >> > Kaypro 4 ? >> > Kaypro 2 ? >> > Kaypro 2X ? >> > Kaypro Robie ? >> > Kaypro 4X ? >> > Kaypro 12X ? >> > Kaypro 1 ? >> > Kaypro 16 ? >> > Kaypro PC ? >> > Kaypro 2000 (laptop)? >> >* From the June 10 1992 San Diego Union-Tribune report of >conversion of Kaypro Chapter 11 bankruptcy to Chapter 7. > > - don > >> Anybody care to provide date of introduction for these machines? >> >> -- hbp

23 years, 1 month

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Looking for HP-85 Software

by rhahm＠nycap.rr.com

Does anyone know of any sites that have archived software for the HP 85? I just got the Lifutil program running on an older DOS machine and am now able to convert, store, and send lif programs in a DOS file. My HP-85 is interfaced to a 9121D 3.5? disk drive and I also have a 82901M 5.25? drive. Of the math, statistics, and standard pacs I own I was only able to salvage 4 programs from the standard pac and none from the other tapes because of eof and read problems. Does anyone have copies of these or other HP 85 programs they could share? I would be glad to share what I have but for now I only have these programs: Timer, Ski, Amort, and one other. Thanks Bob rhahm(a)nycap.rr.com

23 years, 1 month

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Any Ohio computer fests this spring?

by Maclists＠wideopenwest.com

I live in Columbus and would like any info for any Ohio fests. (I just saw a post about a Dayton fest.) Thanks, --- Kelly D. Jones http://www.429Bauhaus.no-ip.com/ <-- My Old Computer Museum

23 years, 1 month

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Popular Electronics

by marvin＠rain.org

Just a heads up in case anyone here is interested, Ebay has what appears to be a complete or nearly complete set of library bound Popular Electronics. The kicker is that the descriptions says pickup in Tennessee or mutual agreement. This seems like a *really* great buy since it also includes 1975 (the MITS Altair issues). The auction number is http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3014129873&category=15050. Current price is $49.99 but was "stuck" at $49.95 for a few days with a BIN of $75.00.

23 years, 1 month

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Atari PC motherboards

by Arkanus＠t-online.de

Hello (1. If I'm in the wrong place - sorry / 2.My English is terrible I know) I own an old PC4. It is still running well. My question to you: Does someone know the jumper settings?????????? I searched for all jumpers on the board and found 12. One of it is pink (JP10). My system only got 1MB of RAM. Now I added 4 more RAM. But in the BIOS they are disabled. How can I activate them? Hope you can help me in that way... :) Regards, Joerg

23 years, 1 month

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HP 97935 Media Module (Disk Pack)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Jarkko Teppo <jarkko.teppo(a)er-grp.com> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 08:41:32AM +0000, Joe wrote: > > Picked up two of these yesterday. Anyone know what drive they > >fit? They have seven platters and are roughly 12" in > >diameter. Marked 404 Mb. > > HP 7933 ? I don't have mine at home so can't check. Don't throw them away :-) Yes, HP 7933 and 7935 drives. 7933 is the "fixed-pack" version of the 7935. Pretty much the same drive but the load/unload button is blank and doesn't do anything when you push it. There was an earlier version of the pack for the 7933 (which was shipped before the 7935); it wasn't as robust and there was an HP field service program to replace those older packs with the newer ones in drives with support contracts. Of course this involved scheduling time when the customer could back up and restore all the data on the drive (or volume set). -Frank McConnell

23 years, 1 month

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National Instrument ISA GPIB board

by anheier＠owt.com

Picked up a National Instrument ISA bus GPIB board. This provide computer interface to many lab instruments. It's up for grabs for $25 or best + shipping. Send me your zip code so I can figure shipping. Thanks Norm

23 years, 1 month

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new finds

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Why do I keep getting old PC's donated to me? *sigh* Just received an epson equity I, if anyone wants it. Also, didn't someone want the Leading Edge 500AT that I got a while back? Jay West

23 years, 1 month

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Jupiter Ace

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: Witchy <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk> > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On >> Behalf Of Philip Pemberton >> Sent: 17 March 2003 07:37 >> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >> Subject: Jupiter Ace >> >> I also need a 32-ohm speaker, circular, about 1 inch in size >> edge-to-edge. Has anyone got a spare for sale? These same speakers were >> *apparently* used in some of the Sinclair machines (Spectrum and ZX-series >> IIRC). > >Can't have been from what I remember; the original Speccy used a piezo >'speaker', and later ones fed the sound output through the RF line....none >of my Sinclair machines have that sort of setup, *but* the likes of the >Oric-1, Camputers Lynx etc all did. Even the Microbees that I'm currently >looking at have that sort of speaker....not sure if it's 32ohm though. > >cheers > Hi My Jupiter Ace has a small dynamic skeaker. I don't recall how the graphics was done. Dwight

23 years, 1 month

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Lisa 1 goes for almost $10,000

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/21/03 7:48:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, vcf(a)siconic.com writes: > Hey, that was probably the guy that sold the Lisa-1 on eBay for $10,000 ;) > I think in 1992-93 or so I sold one to a listmember for $100. It was in our large warehouse at the time. I remember thinking it wasn't worth much because it had those weird pushbutton 5 1/4 inch floppies. Oh well..... Paxton Astoria, OR

23 years, 1 month

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Look at this -

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

>Knew there was a reason why I wasn't a real Apple fan: > >Gore Joins Apple Board > >Apple CEO Steve Jobs said Gore "brings an incredible wealth >of knowledge and wisdom to Apple from having run the largest >organization in the world--the United States government--as >a congressman, senator and our 45th vice president." >http://eletters1.ziffdavis.com/cgi-bin10/flo/y/eUOp0BzN6x0DUm0vVG0AK > > Joe

23 years, 1 month

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MicroVAX and MicroPDP-11 Maintenance Manuals Available

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

SHAMELESS PLUG ALERT! With that said... I've just put up a maintenance manual for the MicroVAX 1 & 2, and a collection of three manuals for the MicroPDP-11 series (owner's manual, technical manual, and supplement for the 11/53 system) on E-pay. Low starting bid, no reserve, yadda yadda... ;-) Thanks (again) for putting up with my occasional ads. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3519&item=3408502046 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3519&item=3408503185 The only thing I ask is, whoever the winning bidder turns out to be, please play nice and share with the rest of the group. ;-) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

23 years, 1 month

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Lisa 1 goes for almost $10,000

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Check out this Lisa one on eBay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3406407504

23 years, 1 month

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Scientific Micro Systems boards?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> > I've never seen an SMS product that was actually Q-Bus. The SMS systems I > > used to have had all the I/O on a *big* board that the Q-Bus backplane > > connected into. The only Q-Bus boards you had to have were CPU and Memory. > > I think you got one of those SMS Q-Bus Boxes from me. They are an interesting > system. A small QBus system piggybacked into a SMS Hard/Floppy drive box. I > remember one with 8" drives and one with 5" drives, rack mount approximately > 2U in size. I got both of them at the same time I got the PDP-11/44 from you (I still have the /44). Zane

23 years, 1 month

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HP 2748 Paper Tape Reader??

by aek＠spies.com

The 2748 manuals are now up at http://www.spies.com/aek/pdf/hp/paperTape/

23 years, 1 month

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odd Data General stuff

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I found a couple of odd DG parts yesterday. One is a "Paddle Board". Copywrited 1974. It's about 5" x 1 1/2" and has an edge connector on one side and a bunch of small individual wires soldered to it. The wires are about 18" long and have small number tags on them and appear to have been used to connect to multiple small devices. The other piece is a round wiring cable with a DB-25M connector on one end and a male and female HP-IB(?) connector on the other. The cable is black and about 6' long. Anyone know what these are for? Joe

23 years, 1 month

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VS 85/90

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

How about a VS 7110? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3408448778 >I'm trying to find a Wang VS-85 or VS-90. Any condition. These are >rather large systems, the VS-85 is about the size of a washing machine, >and the VS-90 is a little bit wider than the VS 85. If anybody runs >across one in their adventures, please contact me. I used to have a >VS90, many years ago. Now that I have space, I'd like to find one, if >there are any still out there. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

23 years, 1 month

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Boot images for xmess emulator

by kth＠srv.net

Looking for CP/M boot disks for the xmess emulator, in particular the Kaypro 2 boot images. Tried 22disk with my Kaypro disks on several systems, but none of them would read them :-(.

23 years, 1 month

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Scientific Micro Systems boards?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/21/03 1:01:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, healyzh(a)aracnet.com writes: > I've never seen an SMS product that was actually Q-Bus. The SMS systems I > used to have had all the I/O on a *big* board that the Q-Bus backplane > connected into. The only Q-Bus boards you had to have were CPU and Memory. > > I think you got one of those SMS Q-Bus Boxes from me. They are an interesting system. A small QBus system piggybacked into a SMS Hard/Floppy drive box. I remember one with 8" drives and one with 5" drives, rack mount approximately 2U in size. SMS made all sorts of Q-Bus interface cards. I think they might have gotten their start with 8" floppy controllers but I am not sure. I know they made serial port cards. Some SMS cards are marketable. I think they made a SCSI. I would think the floppy controllers because they supported other types of drives than DEC. I will have to look into my box and see what I have left. I don't think there is a lot of support out there. Paxton Astoria, OR

23 years, 1 month

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Old .MAC files from MS-DOS

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I've been digging through my old floppies looking for some *OLD* datafiles, and I ran across some "Star Fleet Battles" Files from the old SFB GEnie forum. I vaguely remember that .MAC files were some sort of Graphics file, but what sort? Does anything modernish read them? Zane

23 years, 1 month

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Scientific Micro Systems boards?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> > I usually leave them behind but I picked up one yesterday for parts. this > > one is a Q-bus card and has an AM2901ADC bit slice CPU, an Intel 8085, an > > intel 8155 and an Intel 8253. It says that it's model # FWD 0106, Assy # > > 000420-0001, Fab # 0004222 Rev C. > > I'm not so familiar with SMS products... what connectors are on the > edge of the board? I've never seen an SMS product that was actually Q-Bus. The SMS systems I used to have had all the I/O on a *big* board that the Q-Bus backplane connected into. The only Q-Bus boards you had to have were CPU and Memory. Zane

23 years, 1 month

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HP 2748 Paper Tape Reader??

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Anybody have specs and interface connector pinout and signal levels for this? I got the PT reader but couldn't find the cable. Joe

23 years, 1 month

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Visio Stencils for PDP/VAX/AXP

by wonko＠4amlunch.net

does anyone have Visio Stencils for all the cool old DEC kit? that would be great. if not, i guess it's time to get to work. ;) -brian -- "I'd say don't quit your day job, but you're pretty lousy at that too." -Bender

23 years, 1 month

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Old .MAC files from MS-DOS

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

They could be MacPaint, which can be read by PaintShop Pro (shareware), among other programs. -----Original Message----- From: Zane H. Healy [mailto:healyzh@aracnet.com] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:27 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Old .MAC files from MS-DOS I've been digging through my old floppies looking for some *OLD* datafiles, and I ran across some "Star Fleet Battles" Files from the old SFB GEnie forum. I vaguely remember that .MAC files were some sort of Graphics file, but what sort? Does anything modernish read them? Zane

23 years, 1 month

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UFG: PLCC socket

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Up For Grab: Textool/3M 264-5086 64 pin PLCC ZIF-type socket. A few weeks ago someone here was complaining that they couldn't find any PLCC sockets. I found one yesterday and grabbed it. The person that gives me the best story about why they need it can have it. It's soldered to a small circuit and both are mounted on an aluminium plate about 4" x 8". Postage should be minimal. Joe

23 years, 1 month

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Two Great Finds today

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Picked up a Heathkit 3400-A microcomputer trainer and two SGI CD's one was IRIX 5.1.1 and the other was Fortran 77 compiler 4.0. Got it all for $18

23 years, 1 month

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Seeking for Coprocessor boards for IBM compatibles

by bernd＠kopriva.de

Hi, i'm still looking for coprocessor boards for IBM compatibles (AT-BUS and/or PCI) ... At the moment, i'm specially interested in - Definicon DSI-32 The last one that i saw was offered on eBay some months ago, but unfortunately, Al Kossow grabed that one :-( - Z8000 "Trump Card" (Ciarcia) I never saw an offering for that card. In 1984, when that card was build, i did not have an IBM compatible (and i didn't have the money to even think to buy that card) ... but i may be interested in any other card ... I appreciate any hints ! Thanks Bernd BTW: I'm still looking for documentation/software for my YARC ProTran and Sprinter boards ... Bernd Kopriva Phone: ++49-7195-179452 Weilerstr. 24 E-Mail: bernd(a)kopriva.de D-71397 Leutenbach Germany

23 years, 1 month

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RDRAM chips

by rhaffly＠cablenet-va.com

I am interested in the chips. Contact me. intdoc(a)charter.net Thank You! Bob

23 years, 1 month

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Looking for pointer

by rhaffly＠cablenet-va.com

Brian, I have not loaded any drivers yet. I planned on doing that when I was more sure of the pointer issue. I figured that I would not be able to tell if the drivers are working if I do not have a pointer. I have a Win98 machine I can try loading the drivers on. However, still the pointer question. If I can not find a pointer or info on how to make one soon, Anyone want a Summasketch+? By the way, long story about the "Internet Doctor" thing... Bob

23 years, 1 month

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4M expanded memory cards

by dlormand＠aztecfreenet.org

>I could sure use some. Are they the nine-chip sort? Oops! I guess this wasn't clear enough. These are OLD cards, ISA expanded memory cards for 286es. Not SIMMs/SIPPs. I can't really imagine anyone wanting them, but I thought I'd ask before I toss.

23 years, 1 month

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Summasketch+ graphics tablet

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3408315413&category=3680 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3408320937&category=3680 -----Original Message----- From: Internet Doctor [mailto:intdoc@charter.net] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 10:50 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Summasketch+ graphics tablet Any idea where I could find a puck or pen? Or info on making something? Bob _______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:36 AM Subject: RE: Summasketch+ graphics tablet > The RJ11 is for the puck (4 button) or pen stylus (two button). > > I would try both the Win9X and NT drivers. You might get a message > complaining that the driver is not certified, but that is often just M$ FUD.

23 years, 1 month

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VS 85/90

by jim＠smithy.com

I'm trying to find a Wang VS-85 or VS-90. Any condition. These are rather large systems, the VS-85 is about the size of a washing machine, and the VS-90 is a little bit wider than the VS 85. If anybody runs across one in their adventures, please contact me. I used to have a VS90, many years ago. Now that I have space, I'd like to find one, if there are any still out there. -- Jim Donoghue Smithy Co. (734) 913-6700

23 years, 1 month

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Summasketch+ graphics tablet

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

The RJ11 is for the puck (4 button) or pen stylus (two button). I would try both the Win9X and NT drivers. You might get a message complaining that the driver is not certified, but that is often just M$ FUD. -----Original Message----- From: Internet Doctor [mailto:intdoc@charter.net] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:37 AM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Summasketch+ graphics tablet My name is Bob, I have a Summasketch+. The 4pin square connector is for the power pack. I do not know what the RJ11 connector is for. I have been trying to locate drivers for this pad to try it with my WinXP. No luck there, only found Win9x and NT. I was hoping that I could use a magnetic pen with it. However, from what I am reading, it doesn't sound like that will work. If anyone know what I need to make this work, please let me know. I hate to trash it. I have 4 boys and my Net time is very limited, so you are welcome to email me at intdoc(a)charter.net. Thanks all!

23 years, 1 month

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Summasketch+ graphics tablet

by intdoc＠charter.net

My name is Bob, I have a Summasketch+. The 4pin square connector is for the power pack. I do not know what the RJ11 connector is for. I have been trying to locate drivers for this pad to try it with my WinXP. No luck there, only found Win9x and NT. I was hoping that I could use a magnetic pen with it. However, from what I am reading, it doesn't sound like that will work. If anyone know what I need to make this work, please let me know. I hate to trash it. I have 4 boys and my Net time is very limited, so you are welcome to email me at intdoc(a)charter.net. Thanks all!

23 years, 1 month

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id these HP cards? HP 3000?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote: > Can anyone tell me what these cards are for? HP 30145-60001 > marked ATP AIB, HP 26069-60001 marked DEV HP-IB TRANSLATOR, HP > 31262-69001 marked CHAN GIC. These measure 14"x 11" and have four > edge connectors along the back edge. I searched th enet and didn't > find mush info except that a couple of re-sellers have some for > sale but they don't provice any additional info. One site did > indicate that one of these might be for the HP 3000. These cards probably came from an HP 3000 4X/5X/6X/70. ATP is "Advanced Terminal Processor", an asynchronous terminal interface. I'm not sure what part of it you have. GIC is "General I/O Channel", an HP-IB interface. I'm thinking the "HP-IB TRANSLATOR" is a board that connects to the GIC and provides some other sort of interface, in particular a parallel differential line printer interface. It's been a while but I think we had a couple of these in a 64/68/70 when it had HP 2617 and 2619 printers attached. -Frank McConnell

23 years, 1 month

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id these HP cards? HP 3000?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Can anyone tell me what these cards are for? HP 30145-60001 marked ATP AIB, HP 26069-60001 marked DEV HP-IB TRANSLATOR, HP 31262-69001 marked CHAN GIC. These measure 14"x 11" and have four edge connectors along the back edge. I searched th enet and didn't find mush info except that a couple of re-sellers have some for sale but they don't provice any additional info. One site did indicate that one of these might be for the HP 3000. Joe

23 years, 1 month

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HP 2748 Paper Tape Reader

by aek＠spies.com

> Anybody have specs and interface connector pinout and signal levels for this? The cable pinout is on page 16 of http://www.spies.com/~aek/pdf/hp/21xx/interfaces/12597A-002.pdf

23 years, 1 month

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TI-99A ??

by gehrich＠tampabay.rr.com

I have the opportunity to acquire a TI-99A. What is the difference from a TI-99/4A? Are the TI-99A's rare? What should I pay for one?

23 years, 1 month

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Old Monitors

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

Anybody have an old Nec Multisync 3d, CTX ad-1970, or IDEK MF-5015 multisync monitor you dont need? Was looking for one thats compatible with amiga 1200 resolutions and works on 15khz horizontal. Its a pain in the ass having a C64/C128/Amiga 500/Amiga 1200 and only one 1084S monitor to go around. Located in Ohio.

23 years, 1 month

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Symbolics 3640s available in C. Florida

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I don't know if anyone is interested in these and I know nothing about them but I spotted two of them in a scrap place yesterday. If someone wants them come and get 'em. (They'll be cheap.) They haven't been there more than a couple of days and look like they're in decent condition. I'll guide you to them but I have NO way to move, store, or ship them. Joe

23 years, 1 month

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License PAKs claimed.

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Zane Healy was the first to E-mail me, and is the lucky winner of the LicensePakStak. ;-) I'll bet he'd be willing to share if asked nicely. Thanks to the group, again, for putting up with my occasional burst of adverts. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

23 years, 1 month

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MicroVAX 3800 Power Cable

by univac2＠earthlink.net

I have a MicroVAX 3800 in really good shape that I would like to be able to use, but I have a problem. The power connector looks like a standard grounded power cable connector, but has been made in such a way that the power cable must have a notch on the top in order to plug in. Is there any reason for this? Does that mean that I need a special cable or can I just take a hacksaw to a regular power cable? -- Owen Robertson

23 years, 1 month

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Large Collection of DEC & other License PAKs: Any takers?

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Hi, folks, Hey... I've got an item here that I really didn't want to put up for auction. I'd much rather pass it on to a fellow Classiccmp'er who can use it. It's a file folder, nearly a half-inch thick, crammed full of old DEC and Wollongong license PAKs for all kinds of products, including VMS 5.x, DECNet, and other assorted goodies. First person to E-mail me directly (kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com, or kc7gr at qsl dot net), with an offer of $15.00 (includes postage), can have the entire pile. I'll go by time/date stamps on any responses to determine who's message got here first. Thanks much. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

23 years, 1 month

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Classic items up for auction

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Hi, gang, Another shameless plug. I've posted another bunch of auctions on E-pay. The first one's a collection of Emulex and PDP-11 hardware reference handbooks. I think there's one for the VAX in there too. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3519&item=3408289058 Owners of Motorola MVME188A systems would probably find this one useful. It's the distribution tapes and manuals for the System V/88 Base OS, Network Extensions, and the tapes and manuals for Uniplex and Looking Glass as well. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=3408291146 These next three are, in sequence: A tech manual for the VAX 4000-200, a TK50 tape of the MicroVAX II Customer Diagnostics, and a manual set for the TI-58/59 programmables. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=3408295497 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=3408296865 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3294&item=3014465606 Thanks again for putting up with the occasional ad. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

23 years, 1 month

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"The Art of Electronics" - edition differences?

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

To those that have "The Art of Electronics", is there much difference between the first and second editions? Is one "preferable" to the other for those of us with Classic interests? Did they take anything we would find useful out in the editing process? -ethan

23 years, 1 month

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"The Art of Electronics" is priceless and amazing!

by Paul.Hills＠siemens.co.uk

I discovered this one 15 years ago after failing to comprehend analogue electronicsa in my first year at university. It made everything clear in one read! As a coincidence, I just got an email off Winfield Hill the other day asking me about my website. I congratulated him on his book! paul -----Original Message----- From: jpero(a)sympatico.ca [mailto:jpero@sympatico.ca] Sent: 19 March 2003 20:23 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: "The Art of Electronics" is priceless and amazing! I just got my book after over 4 weeks of waiting since the order placed. I wondered why I didn't get it eariler because it's so good compared to my college electronics technology textbooks! Cheers, Wizard

23 years, 1 month

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Holy cow, what a find...

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> It cost a few bucks to get, but I know what these beasties can do... > > What beastie? Oh, sorry... an Ancot DCS-216FT standalone SCSI bus > analyzer, in pretty darn good shape. Snagged it from Ebay for $250. > Considering that I've rarely seen them going for less than a grand, > I think I got a decent enough deal. <CLANK> That was the sound of my jaw dropping! There is a certain major manufacturer of SCSI devices that I'm familiar with that only has two SCSI Bus Analyzers (and the FE that works on our equipment can never get one). So, I'd say that's a pretty good score! Zane

23 years, 1 month

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4M expanded memory cards

by melamy＠earthlink.net

actually history wise, there was a memory specification called LIM (Lotus/Intel/Microsoft) that used a 16K/32K/64K memory slot in the 1 meg real memory region where the 8088 could access it to bank switch blocks of memory in and out of the window area. Lotus 123 was a big user of the Expanded Memory because of the typical size of spreadsheets would quickly eat up normal memory and require disk access that would slow down the spreadsheet even more. Memory boards that were referred to as extended memory were the ones that could be accessed by 286 and above processors by having the processor go into protected mode. best regards, Steve Thatcher >--- Original Message --- >From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Date: 3/20/03 11:15:43 AM > --- TeoZ <teoz(a)neo.rr.com> wrote: >> I remember paying close to $400 for 4 x 4mb 30 pin sims for my 386/40 >> homebuilt machine so it would scream using windows 3.0. >> Funny how memory prices have gone to hell over the last few years. > >As someone already pointed out - prices only drop drastically per meg for >new technologies. For old memory, the price drops slowly, then it rises >a bit once it's old enough to be legacy. Try and find some largish 30-pin >memory now - it's not the $25-$40/meg it once was, but some places still >get a lot for it (not that they *sell* a lot ;-) > >> What was the point of the ISA memory addon boards, people running >> windows/286 and OS/2 1.x/2.x? > >Yes, that and productivity apps that needed more space than 640K >(spreadsheets, CAD packages, etc.) plus games. There were plenty >of DOS games that needed more than ~500K. > >-ethan

23 years, 1 month

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Freeware CDs for RSX-11 and RT-11

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

OMG how embarassing!.... ----- Original Message ----- > Umm most definitely - including sites under www.classiccmp.com :) *SIGH* that would be .org, not .com Jay "suffering from brainlock" West

23 years, 1 month

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Freeware CDs for RSX-11 and RT-11

by jhfinepw4z＠compsys.to

In regard to the Freeware CDs for RSX-11 and RT-11 that Tim Shoppa originally produced: I am in the middle of making up a second (very small) batch of CDs and could easily add a few additional copies. I will be making all copies of the CD images from: ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/cd-images/ http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RT-11/ http://www.classiccmp.org/PDP-11/RSX-11/ Since not everyone has both a high speed internet connection and a CD burner, I thought it would be helpful to make them available. If you have both requirements and are using Windows 98 SE / Nero Burning, I can help with the details if you don't know how to burn a CD from an "Image File". I have even been able to produce a label for each CD that is close to the original label from Tim Shoppa, although since they were scanned (THANK YOU FOR THE HELP), they are not perfect. They are available at $ 5 / $ 9 / $ 12 for 1 / 2 / 3 CDs. In addition, I understand that Memorex Black CD-Rs have a longer shelf life and are available at Business Depot. If anyone wants those instead, add $ 1 for each CD that you are requesting. Thus those amounts are $ 6 / $ 11 / $ 15 I will be picking up some Memorx CD-R blanks in a few days and starting on the copies for those who have already requested that a Black CD-R be used. Please include your mailing address!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In general, I will regard any funds you send as a gift so that if anyone really can't afford the CDs, please state why that is so. Outside of the US, probably about $ 2 should be sufficient for extra postage. All amounts are in US dollars. Please ask if you are not in the US. No point in converting twice. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

23 years, 1 month

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4M expanded memory cards

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/20/03 12:25:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, cb(a)mythtech.net writes: > I'm pretty sure the ones I have don't have SIMM slots. I think they are > just a whole mess of DIP chips sitting in sockets right on the board. I > think some of them are even multiple layers deep (a daughter card > attached to the main card to add more chips). > > I thought they were labeled "INTEL AboveBoard", They all are Intel AboveBoards. Intel made aboveboards that took 256K DIPs, 1 Meg DIPs and 30 pin SIMMs. They made 8 bit versions beside 16 bit versions. With the DIP Daughter board IIRC you could get 16 Meg of RAM on the card. Some of the 16 bit versions could be used in 8 bit slots. It was a very versatile line of cards for many years. An interesting side story. They came out with a 5 year warranty. Intel in Hillsboro, OR used to have employee sales where Intel employees could buy surplus and scrap at bargain basement prices. Several people bought some non working aboveboards that were failures from the production line. They then got turned in for warranty repair because they were less than 5 years old. Once Intel figured out what was going on that was the end of the employee garage sales. From that point on they shredded the production failures in Hillsboro. Paxton Astoria, OR

23 years, 1 month

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Holy cow, what a find...

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

I saw that one go by and it seemed like a good deal. But I've got a couple FuturePlus FS2230 SCSI probes to go along with the logic analyzers I have so I had to resist the urge to buy more hardware. > What beastie? Oh, sorry... an Ancot DCS-216FT standalone SCSI bus >analyzer, in pretty darn good shape. Snagged it from Ebay for $250. >Considering that I've rarely seen them going for less than a grand, I think >I got a decent enough deal. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

23 years, 1 month

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4M expanded memory cards

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Yes, these are AboveBoards. The one I had had DIP RAM chips. The ones with SIMMs must be more recent. -----Original Message----- From: chris [mailto:cb@mythtech.net] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:23 PM To: Classic Computer Subject: Re: 4M expanded memory cards > Yep, I've got an Intel ISA AboveBoards too. 8 30 pin SIMM slots. >Currently is loaded with 1MB SIMMs. Anybody want it? Humm... then maybe what I have isn't "AboveBoard"'s. I'm pretty sure the ones I have don't have SIMM slots. I think they are just a whole mess of DIP chips sitting in sockets right on the board. <snip>

23 years, 1 month

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4M expanded memory cards

by cb＠mythtech.net

> Yep, I've got an Intel ISA AboveBoards too. 8 30 pin SIMM slots. >Currently is loaded with 1MB SIMMs. Anybody want it? Humm... then maybe what I have isn't "AboveBoard"'s. I'm pretty sure the ones I have don't have SIMM slots. I think they are just a whole mess of DIP chips sitting in sockets right on the board. I think some of them are even multiple layers deep (a daughter card attached to the main card to add more chips). I thought they were labeled "INTEL AboveBoard", but maybe I'm mistaken and they are some other memory upgrade board. I do know they are RAM upgrades and they are for ISA slots... that much I am sure about. Although I do (or did?), have one with SIMM slots for an MCA bus for PS/2's. I think I sent that to Larry when I sent him a bunch of 486 parts, but I'm not sure (like most of the rest of you, I just have piles of stuff... and I'm not always that good at keeping track of it) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 1 month

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4M expanded memory cards

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I remeber some brand of memory addon cards were prised back in the 286 era, >Intel Aboveboard comes to mind. I think I might have a box of Intel AboveBoard's. I'm not sure how many, or how much ram is on each, but I seem to recall that I have a file box full of them tucked away under my parts shelves somewhere. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

23 years, 1 month

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Holy cow, what a find...

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

It cost a few bucks to get, but I know what these beasties can do... What beastie? Oh, sorry... an Ancot DCS-216FT standalone SCSI bus analyzer, in pretty darn good shape. Snagged it from Ebay for $250. Considering that I've rarely seen them going for less than a grand, I think I got a decent enough deal. One of the tech support guys at Ancot was kind enough to send me the user's manual. Now, if I can just get a differential adapter as well... Heck, maybe I can build one... we'll see. 73 de KC7GR -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk)

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"The Art of Electronics" - edition differences?

by Paul.Hills＠siemens.co.uk

Ethan, There is a lot added (it's about half as thick again as the first edition). I seem to remember there was a little stuff taken out, but I sold the first edition years ago now and can't remember what it was - it certainly wasn't anything that I miss. I'd recommend "upgrading" as there is quite a bit of practical stuff which is very useful in the second edition. The lists of op-amps and suchlike is a bit outdated now though, so it'd be nice to have a third edition! -----Original Message----- From: Ethan Dicks [mailto:erd_6502@yahoo.com] Sent: 20 March 2003 15:47 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: "The Art of Electronics" - edition differences? To those that have "The Art of Electronics", is there much difference between the first and second editions? Is one "preferable" to the other for those of us with Classic interests? Did they take anything we would find useful out in the editing process? -ethan

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CDC 924 console in 'The Terminator' (fwd)

by laura.lacagnina＠attbi.com

I have an Ampex 924 w/speakers they are in an oak cabinets I know that the circa was 1960 Ampex only made home systems for 3 years I am looking to see if anyone would really appreciate buying this working model Laura I have learned that to ignore the facts does not change the facts!

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Article on computer collecting in today's Guardian (IUK)

by coredump＠gifford.co.uk

Just a quick note to point out the article by Christine Finn in today's Guardian newspaper: http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,906984,00.html It's on page 7, in the G2 section, if you have the paper version. Big photo of Sellam's collection, and one of Sellam himself. Small mention of my collection, too. -- John Honniball coredump(a)gifford.co.uk

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4M expanded memory cards

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

AboveBoards could also be used with an 8088. I had a 2MB added to a TurboXT clone so I could run Windows 3.0. -----Original Message----- From: chris [mailto:cb@mythtech.net] Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 10:08 AM To: Classic Computer Subject: Re: 4M expanded memory cards >I remeber some brand of memory addon cards were prised back in the 286 era, >Intel Aboveboard comes to mind. I think I might have a box of Intel AboveBoard's. I'm not sure how many, or how much ram is on each, but I seem to recall that I have a file box full of them tucked away under my parts shelves somewhere. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Subject: new finds

by musicman＠satcom.whit.org

Wow! You are complaining about receiving 'donations'? I'd love to have a PDP-11 or an old VAX or even old Commodore equip. donated to me! Would make a great project and display at work in our data center! dww -----Original Message----- From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of cctech-request(a)classiccmp.org Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 11:00 AM To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Subject: cctech digest, Vol 1 #425 - 17 msgs Send cctech mailing list submissions to cctech(a)classiccmp.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctech or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cctech-request(a)classiccmp.org You can reach the person managing the list at cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of cctech digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Jupiter Ace (ben franchuk) 2. Re: Some more offerings from the 'Garage' (Owen Robertson) 3. HP9830 keyboard (Tony Duell) 4. RE: Jupiter Ace (Dwight K. Elvey) 5. Re: Penske is our friend! (William Donzelli) 6. Re: No, it's an H/Z89 was: Re: Z-100 find ? (Tony Duell) 7. Re: SWTPC TV Typewriter II restoration (Tony Duell) 8. Re: SWTPC TV Typewriter II restoration (Tony Duell) 9. Re: Jupiter Ace (Tony Duell) 10. Re: Trouble with ASR33 (Tony Duell) 11. Soldering Irons (was RE: SWTPC TV Typewriter II restoration) (J.C.Wren) 12. Re: Manual "Practical Microprocessors" HP 5036A Monitor ROM (Stuart Johnson) 13. Re: Soldering Irons Metcal (Glen S) 14. Re: Some more offerings from the 'Garage' (Megan) 15. Re: Some more offerings from the 'Garage' (William Donzelli) 16. Workslate (Ron Hudson) 17. new finds (Jay West) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:23:59 -0700 From: ben franchuk <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Jupiter Ace Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Witchy wrote: > Can't have been from what I remember; the original Speccy used a piezo > 'speaker', and later ones fed the sound output through the RF line....none > of my Sinclair machines have that sort of setup, *but* the likes of the > Oric-1, Camputers Lynx etc all did. Even the Microbees that I'm currently > looking at have that sort of speaker....not sure if it's 32ohm though. What about getting a cheap 32 ohm headphone , and use the speaker off that? Ben. --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:52:37 -0600 Subject: Re: Some more offerings from the 'Garage' From: Owen Robertson <univac2(a)earthlink.net> To: Classic Computer Mailing List <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org on 3/17/03 2:38 PM, David Betz at dbetz(a)xlisper.mv.com wrote: > I have only heard from two other people and both of them have had > trouble contacting James as well. Has anyone had any luck ordering > items from James Willing and/or the Computer Garage? Or shall I write > off my payment and avoid these offers in the future? I don't know, but I sent off a $15 money order weeks ago for two of the books he listed for sale here on the list, and I haven't heard from him since. -- Owen Robertson --__--__-- Message: 3 From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Subject: HP9830 keyboard To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 00:20:01 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org I am currently restoring an HP9830. I guess this is a classic computer (for all it says 'calcualtor' on the nameplate) because it runs BASIC, and is 30 years old! Repairing the electronic faults has not been a problem (boards of TTL -- yum...). It now powers up, runs programs, drives the 9866 printer sitting on top of it, saves/loads to cassette, and so on. I am now left with the keyboard which has 5 problems : 1) The 'Stop' keycap is missing, although the switch is complete and undamaged 2) The keycaps need cleaning 3) The power-on lamp on the front of the machine is burnt-out 4) The mains switch is broken 5) The plastic keyboard bezel (surround) was badly broken by the postal 'service'. I have most of the broken bits of plastic OK, solutions ... 1) My junk box supplied a keycap that will fit (without modifications), although it's too short and has the wrong label. It'll do for the moment until I cna find soemthing better (unless anyone here is mad enough to have stripped a 9830 for parts -- I hope not!) 2) Trivial to put right! 3) This is a wire-ended bulb, running off the 5V line through a 22 ohm resistor. I can get a 5V 60mA bulb -- as I don't want it to be particularly bright this should be fine. Does anyone know what the original bulb was, though. 4) This is more of a problem. The original switch is a DPDT rocker (and all 6 terminals are used -- the NC contacts connect to a 1M resistor used to discharge the mains filter when the machine is turned off). It mount with 2 screws onto the keyboard chassis. There is very little space in that area too. I don't want to modify the machine more than I have to, and I can't find a suitable switch in any of the catalogues. HP used the same switch on many devices in the 1970s -- the 9866 printer has an identical switch, so do the I/O expander and disk drives for my 9825. Anybody know of a source (I can provide more details, like dimensions, etc, if anyone thinks they can help)?. If all else fails, I'll replace the switch on one of my 9885 drives (where there's a lot more room) and use the switch removed from that drive in the 9830. 5) Any suggestions as to how to repair this? The plastic will stick with dichloromethane, but of course it's not very strong. I have heard of a technique of soaking a piece of cloth in said solvent and sticking it to the back of the plastic to strengthen it. Anyone ever tried this and have any tips? -tony --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:56:44 -0800 (PST) From: "Dwight K. Elvey" <dwightk.elvey(a)amd.com> Subject: RE: Jupiter Ace To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org >From: Witchy <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk> > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On >> Behalf Of Philip Pemberton >> Sent: 17 March 2003 07:37 >> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >> Subject: Jupiter Ace >> >> I also need a 32-ohm speaker, circular, about 1 inch in size >> edge-to-edge. Has anyone got a spare for sale? These same speakers were >> *apparently* used in some of the Sinclair machines (Spectrum and ZX-series >> IIRC). > >Can't have been from what I remember; the original Speccy used a piezo >'speaker', and later ones fed the sound output through the RF line....none >of my Sinclair machines have that sort of setup, *but* the likes of the >Oric-1, Camputers Lynx etc all did. Even the Microbees that I'm currently >looking at have that sort of speaker....not sure if it's 32ohm though. > >cheers > Hi My Jupiter Ace has a small dynamic skeaker. I don't recall how the graphics was done. Dwight --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:22:52 -0500 (EST) From: William Donzelli <aw288(a)osfn.org> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org cc: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Penske is our friend! Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > HUH??? I own and operate a small business in Orlando, and I can tell you I'd > be dead in the water without a State Fictitious Name registration, as well as > business licenses for Orange County and the City of Orlando. Even if you're > running it from home, you have to have your papers in order or get fined out > of existence . . . Incorporation and business laws vary state by state. In some states, they vary county by county. William Donzelli aw288(a)osfn.org --__--__-- Message: 6 From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Subject: Re: No, it's an H/Z89 was: Re: Z-100 find ? To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:41:10 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > that. You also need to check on the controller board to see if it's set up > for hard-sectored disc or softsectored ones. There are several controller boards IIRC, and you can have 2 installed at the same time. Mu Z90 has the hard-sectored controller (using a USRT chip) connected to the internal drive and the double-density soft-sectored controller (using a WD179x chip) connected to the 2 external drives (all 5.25" units). I beleive there was an 8" drive system and a hard disk. > The hard sectored (10 sectors) are probably long gone from this world. I I still have one... Getting the disks is a problem. One day, when I've got nothing better to do, I am going to modify a junk 5.25" drive by mounting a punch/die in place of the index sensor and an indexing plate on the spindle. Then I can punch my own hard-sector holes. > still have mine and it occasionally gets the dust blown away. > For those who learned to use a good typewriter this is the best keyboard ever > installed on a PC. I thought it was a fairly standard design, similar to the ones on the VT100, early TRS-80, HP85, etc. --__--__-- Message: 7 From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Subject: Re: SWTPC TV Typewriter II restoration To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:48:32 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > Michael Holley wrote: > [snip] > > Here are some links to my CT-1024 TV Typewriter II pages. > > http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/CT_1024/CT1024_Index.htm > > http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/CT_1024/Restore/CT1024_Restore.htm > Wow. I'm speechless. That is one amazing repair. I think it's high time for > me to smash my piggy-bank, raid my bank account and buy a nice soldering > station :-) Well, I should probably upgrade myself (I still use an old Weller TCP, which has a not particularly accurate thermostat), but I can assure you that even that is a lot nicer than most 'hobbyist grade' irons. To the extent that on the few occasions that I've tried to use a cheap, totally non-thermonstatically-controller iron recently (to save going back to get my Weller), I've had to give up and go and get said unit. > I've just come to the conclusion that my Antex XS is far too overpowered for You probably mean _UNDERPOWERED_ ! Power is not the same as temperature. For example, my Weller is actually a 45W unit, which sounds rediculously high (after all, many books recomend a 15W iron for PCB work). The problem with too high a power in a non-controlled iron is that it gets too hot. The problem with too little power (in any type of iron) is that it takes too long to heat the joint up, thus getting the rest of the PCB and components hot, causing damage. Try soldering (or worse, desoldering) an IC pin connected to an internal ground plane on a multi-layer PCB and you'll see what I mean -tony --__--__-- Message: 8 From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Subject: Re: SWTPC TV Typewriter II restoration To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:52:57 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > > when I somehow plugged one of the Molex connectors in backwards, but > > a local computer club member was able to repair the damage for me at > > the time. > If only those kind of clubs still existed... Now, I've got some spare Indeed. The problem is that classic-computer/hardware hackers are not grouped close enough together for such a club to be really workable. You'd really have to meet face-to-face. Occassionally, we do hardware hacking at HPCC, and I almost always have a reasonable toolkit with me. I guess that's one of the last clubs where things do get dismantled and modified -- if I am wrong, and there's another one in the London (UK) area, then please enlighten me :-) > cash... I think it's high time to fix the Jupiter Ace. Properly. > Does anyone have a schematic for a 2114 RAM tester? I think I may have blew Put the supect one in the character generator area (and try it in both positions). The machine will start up with it there, but you'll only get half of each character recogniseable if it's defective... -tony --__--__-- Message: 9 From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Subject: Re: Jupiter Ace To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 23:56:07 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > Hi all, > I'm now starting on the Jupiter Ace again and I've got one really big > question that's been bugging me for a while. How the heck does the Jupiter > Ace display *graphics* on-screen? It looks like the chargen is text-only and It doesn't!. You've noticed the problem. All you can do is redefine the characters (acutally, it's worse than you think -- 1K bytes of RAM is 128 8*8 patterns -- the high bit of the character code is used to invert all the dots in the pattern IIRC). And 256 chracters is not enough for the entire screen. That's why you can't have an arbitrray image on the screen. There was a Jupiter Cantab untility to allow setting/reseting points, and one of the error messages was something like 'All characters used' :-) > I also need a 32-ohm speaker, circular, about 1 inch in size > edge-to-edge. Has anyone got a spare for sale? These same speakers were My obvious thought is that most cheap stereo headphones are 32 Ohm impdedance, and about that size. How about raiding a pair? -tony --__--__-- Message: 10 From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) Subject: Re: Trouble with ASR33 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 00:01:07 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Tony Duell wrote: > > > So if the return character is not getting to the rails correctly then > > firstly it won't punch properly and secondly, it won't be detected by the > > approipriate lever in the function unit. > > I haven't be able to verify what character is being produced because the > durn carriage is stuck on the right. Once I get the carriage returned > then I can determine what's going on. Sure you can. In fact the carriage won't help you much anyway because it onlly really decodes printing characters. Look at the selector rails. You'll see there are 8 of them (at least where they connect to the punch), and it's not hard, even without the manual, to work out which state is a 0 and which is a 1, and what the bit sequence is. Then you can see how they're set for each character. Another trick is to use the reader. Open the cover (trivial for you), hold down the tape sensor, and turn it on. Then hold down various combinations of the pecker pins and see what happens. If you can get a friend to help,, you could probably hold down the right combination for a CR -- and see if the carriage then returns. If it does, then you've got a keyboard problem, of course. > > > So let's get that missing bit back first. Are you running the machine in > > LOCAL mode (i.e. from its own keyboard to the printer?). If so, the > > Yes, LOCAL mode. > > > problem could be in the transmitter side (contacts on the keyboard, for > > example). Or it could be a problem in the RX unit (sticking lever). I > > think it's safe to assume that the solenoid driver is not the problem > > here (it's not going to mangle only one bit). > > While I can't say I examined it to the point of ruling this out, I didn't > notice anything wrong with the levers. However, it is an obvious place to > start. Actually, since you're working in local mode, I'd start with the keyboard and distributor contacts. The former, particularly, are known to give problems in old machines. -tony --__--__-- Message: 11 From: "J.C.Wren" <jcwren(a)jcwren.com> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Subject: Soldering Irons (was RE: SWTPC TV Typewriter II restoration) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:51:07 -0500 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org There is only one TRUE soldering iron. If you're serious about soldering and surface mount, you want a Metcal. Don't get the SP-200 series, they're junk. Used Metcals can be had on eBay. Avoid the RFG-30 bases, those are antiques (and not in a good way). The MX 500-DS is ideal, as you can use the 2nd port for either another wand, or the Talon tweezers. The tips are cartridge style tips, and hold temperature regulation far better than a Weller or Hakko (I've used *lots* of different irons in product environments. Don't tell me how much you love your Weller or Hakko until you use a Metcal. Once you've had, you'd just as soon use a wood burner as go back). There are well over 100 different tip styles available, including specialty tips for removing QFP, SOICs, PLCCs, etc. The Talon tweezers are really nice for removing SMT resistors, caps, and with the right tips, SOICs are easily removed. --John > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org > [mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]On > Behalf Of Tony Duell > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 18:49 > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: SWTPC TV Typewriter II restoration > > > > Michael Holley wrote: > > [snip] > > > Here are some links to my CT-1024 TV Typewriter II pages. > > > http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/CT_1024/CT1024_Index.htm > > > http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/CT_1024/Restore/CT1024_Restore.htm > > Wow. I'm speechless. That is one amazing repair. I think > it's high time for > > me to smash my piggy-bank, raid my bank account and buy a > nice soldering > > station :-) > > Well, I should probably upgrade myself (I still use an old > Weller TCP, > which has a not particularly accurate thermostat), but I can > assure you > that even that is a lot nicer than most 'hobbyist grade' irons. > > To the extent that on the few occasions that I've tried to > use a cheap, > totally non-thermonstatically-controller iron recently (to save going > back to get my Weller), I've had to give up and go and get said unit. > > > > I've just come to the conclusion that my Antex XS is far > too overpowered for > > You probably mean _UNDERPOWERED_ ! > > Power is not the same as temperature. For example, my Weller > is actually > a 45W unit, which sounds rediculously high (after all, many books > recomend a 15W iron for PCB work). The problem with too high > a power in a > non-controlled iron is that it gets too hot. The problem with > too little > power (in any type of iron) is that it takes too long to heat > the joint > up, thus getting the rest of the PCB and components hot, > causing damage. > > Try soldering (or worse, desoldering) an IC pin connected to > an internal > ground plane on a multi-layer PCB and you'll see what I mean > > -tony --__--__-- Message: 12 From: "Stuart Johnson" <ssj152(a)charter.net> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Manual "Practical Microprocessors" HP 5036A Monitor ROM Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 19:13:42 -0600 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen S" <glenslick(a)hotmail.com> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: Manual "Practical Microprocessors" HP 5036A Monitor ROM > By request, you can currently find source code for the HP 5036A Monitor ROM > here: > > http://home1.gte.net/~gslick/5036a/5036A.HTML > > This source code was generated by unassembling the 5036A ROM and then adding > the comments, labels, and symbols from the source listing in the manual. I > have not had time yet to proof read all of the comments that I manually > typed into the source from the manual, but I have verified that this source > reassebles into binary code that matches the ROM. > > Appendex E of the manual contains notes on running the demo programs in the > ROM {EHCO, ANDGT, CONV, WTM, SQRL, ORGAN, ROCT, STW, SNAKE}. When I have > more time I will try to add that info. > > -Glen > Glen, Thanks VERY much. I am surprised you got to this so quickly, and especially for verifying that the code reassembles into the ROM. I will look forward to the notes for the demo programs and will continue to look for a source for the manuals. Stuart Johnson --__--__-- Message: 13 From: "Glen S" <glenslick(a)hotmail.com> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Soldering Irons Metcal Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:34:02 -0800 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org I picked up a used MX-500S on eBay and later a DS1 to go with it. I still need to pick up a compressor some day before I can use the DS1. What I don't have are any manuals nor can I find any online anywhere and it's not clear if Metcal or distributors sell copies of the manuals. It would be nice to have instructions for the DS1 before I need to use it the first time. I don't think I have all of the necessary filters and such. -Glen > > There is only one TRUE soldering iron. If you're serious about soldering >and surface mount, you want a Metcal. Don't get the SP-200 series, they're >junk. Used Metcals can be had on eBay. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail --__--__-- Message: 14 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:21:19 -0500 (EST) From: Megan <mbg(a)TheWorld.com> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Some more offerings from the 'Garage' Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org >> I have only heard from two other people and both of them have had >> trouble contacting James as well. Has anyone had any luck ordering >> items from James Willing and/or the Computer Garage? Or shall I write >> off my payment and avoid these offers in the future? > >I don't know, but I sent off a $15 money order weeks ago for two of the >books he listed for sale here on the list, and I haven't heard from him >since. I also sent off some money for a few books from the same list, and haven't received anything yet. I have also sent mail and have yet to receive a response. Megan --__--__-- Message: 15 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:28:39 -0500 (EST) From: William Donzelli <aw288(a)osfn.org> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org cc: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Some more offerings from the 'Garage' Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > I also sent off some money for a few books from the same list, and > haven't received anything yet. I have also sent mail and have yet > to receive a response. I suppose I should go on record as well (no, I am not trying to crucify Jim - he is a good guy, just going thru a rough patch right now). Jim, if you are monitoring the list somehow, we need to talk about that 6800 stuff... Don't everyone get the wrong idea - the deal never really fully formed... William Donzelli aw288(a)osfn.org --__--__-- Message: 16 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:12:31 -0800 Subject: Workslate From: Ron Hudson <rhudson(a)cnonline.net> To: Classic Computers <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org I have a workslate, workslate pen plotter, Several bits of software on the minicassettes the workslated uses. Who wants it? Whatcha got to trade? Anybody got a Poly 88 5 board working S100 bus computer? Atari Portfolio? Any HP handheld (hp 35, hp 67, hp 97, hp41, hp 71, hp 75) just because it's not on the list doesn't mean I am not interested in it. Wanna trade? --__--__-- Message: 17 From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Subject: new finds Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 08:52:18 -0600 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Why do I keep getting old PC's donated to me? *sigh* Just received an epson equity I, if anyone wants it. Also, didn't someone want the Leading Edge 500AT that I got a while back? Jay West End of cctech Digest

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Soldering Irons (was RE: SWTPC TV Typewriter II restoration)

by swtpc6800＠attbi.com

The Metcal system that I have has a PS2E-01 power supply and a RM3E soldering iron. It uses STTC and SMTC tips. I have no documentation on this unit and the PS2E is not mentioned on the Metcal site. How old is this unit? I used a Weller WTPCN for twenty years and it is fine for 1980 vintage through hole components. Michael Holley www.swtpc.com/mholley

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74F582

by Paul.Hills＠siemens.co.uk

Sorry, I was talking rubbish in that last post. The 74F582 is more likely to be similar to the 74F382, a datasheet for which may be found here: http://umwnt1.physics.lsa.umich.edu/locos/images/74f382.pdf I'll carry on looking for the '582 in my books at home however. paul -----Original Message----- From: Dr. Charles E. Morris [mailto:c.morris@townsqr.com] Sent: 19 March 2003 20:14 To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: 74F582 It appears to be an 8-bit ALU. Couldn't find a data sheet from Fairchild (who bought National Semiconductor's logic line), Philips, or anyone! Signetics is no longer in the TTL business, I believe. The only things I can come up with are: pspice.metropoliglobal.com/pspice/docs/DIGITAL.PDF ALU 74F582 74F582S TTL 74F582 Octal, with Parity Generator Checker http://www.s-direktnet.de/homepages/sangmeister/daten/ics/icg74.htm NSC 74F582 and: http://www.egm-electronics.com/listen/ic.htm 74F582N SIG 87 DIP I'd be interested to know where anyone does come up with a data sheet. -Charles >Does anyone know what this is? It's on a board with six 74LS181's and >two 74F582, as well as some static RAM and a ton of other TTL logic. --

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74F582

by Paul.Hills＠siemens.co.uk

It seems that the 74F583 is quite similar to the '582 (of course many of the 74TTL series ICs do have near equivalents like this). I too have struggled to find anything on the '582, but a datasheet for Philip's version of the '583 can be found here: http://www.system.perm.ru/escpdf/Philips/74F583_1.pdf, a reasonably good collection of datasheets in Russia. cheers, paul -----Original Message----- From: Dr. Charles E. Morris [mailto:c.morris@townsqr.com] Sent: 19 March 2003 20:14 To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: 74F582 It appears to be an 8-bit ALU. Couldn't find a data sheet from Fairchild (who bought National Semiconductor's logic line), Philips, or anyone! Signetics is no longer in the TTL business, I believe. The only things I can come up with are: pspice.metropoliglobal.com/pspice/docs/DIGITAL.PDF ALU 74F582 74F582S TTL 74F582 Octal, with Parity Generator Checker http://www.s-direktnet.de/homepages/sangmeister/daten/ics/icg74.htm NSC 74F582 and: http://www.egm-electronics.com/listen/ic.htm 74F582N SIG 87 DIP I'd be interested to know where anyone does come up with a data sheet. -Charles >Does anyone know what this is? It's on a board with six 74LS181's and >two 74F582, as well as some static RAM and a ton of other TTL logic. --

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Missing Base Kit Sistem Area Disk 1 in pro/venix 2.0 distribution (by DEC)

by franco.tassone＠inwind.it

Hi all, I have a Pro/venix 2.0 distribution (the one by DEC) and was going to reinstall it on my PRO/350. Unfortunatelly I discoveded that the Base Kit Sistem Area Disk 1 was bad. Anyone in this list can help me in supplying this floppy image ? Thanks in advance. Franco.

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IBM 5360 available in Nashville, Tennesee

by vcf＠siconic.com

Here is a complete IBM 5360 system available in Nashville, Tennesee. As always, please reply to the original sender. Reply-to: MSlarve(a)aol.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:07:32 EST From: MSlarve(a)aol.com To: archive(a)vintage.org Subject: ibm 5360 i just bought a building with an IBM 5360 with 2 printers monitor and key board.. it takes floppy disks that are about 5" and are in a box type holder ... it was all working when unhooked about 2 years ago ... and has been stored in a good environment.. is it an antique computer of interest?. Do you have any information ...Do they still use it anywhere. is it worth anything? thank you ... Mike -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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make a copy bootable TK50 tape

by Roberto.Jardini＠rtsi.ch

Hallo I'm new with Ultrix-32 os on Microvax II. I need to make a copy of the bootable diagnostics tape for the MicroVax II. The device I have is TK50 TAPE DRIVE. I search a command (like disckopy in DOS) that can perform a copy in Ultrix-32 OS. Can you help me? Many thanks ****************************************************** Visit: http://www.rtsi.ch This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify postmaster(a)rtsi.ch

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SUN computer part numbers?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Anybody know of a good site where I can look up some SUN part numbers? I picked up a bunch of loose SUN cards and I'm trying to id them. I have numbers like 270-1388-04 (made by Ross Technology, has 2 ea 7c601, 7c602 and 7c605 ICs), 270-1672-04 (a 13W3 video card), 270-1686-09 (a large motherboard). Joe

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74F582

by c.morris＠townsqr.com

It appears to be an 8-bit ALU. Couldn't find a data sheet from Fairchild (who bought National Semiconductor's logic line), Philips, or anyone! Signetics is no longer in the TTL business, I believe. The only things I can come up with are: pspice.metropoliglobal.com/pspice/docs/DIGITAL.PDF ALU 74F582 74F582S TTL 74F582 Octal, with Parity Generator Checker http://www.s-direktnet.de/homepages/sangmeister/daten/ics/icg74.htm NSC 74F582 and: http://www.egm-electronics.com/listen/ic.htm 74F582N SIG 87 DIP I'd be interested to know where anyone does come up with a data sheet. -Charles >Does anyone know what this is? It's on a board with six 74LS181's and >two 74F582, as well as some static RAM and a ton of other TTL logic. --

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Ultrix-32 Manuals available **FREE**

by kshuff＠fast.net

Subject say's it all, I have a complete manual set for Ultrix-32, 15 binders in total. Just pay shipping or come and get them. I really don't want to see them end up in a dumpster. While we're on the subject, I also have Ultrix 3.1 (VAX) and Ultrix 4.2a (RISC) on TK50 tape, same deal, pay shipping or come and get em. I think there is also a system backup of a MicroVAX II running 3.1. Items are located in Allentown, PA if you care to pick them up. -- Keith Huff kshuff(a)fast.net

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"ONTV"/dan veeneman

by mpichs75＠yahoo.com

just wrote to say that I really appreciated the info about ONTV and the link. I was wondering how I can attain a unit for myself. Nothing more than nostalgia reasons, but i'd really like to have one. If you can help me out Dan, please let me know. thank you, -mike

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(no subject)

by hharte＠hartetec.com

Hello, Do you still have these boards for trade? If so, what sort of microprocessors are you looking for? The most interesting processor that I have is an Intel 8088-6 ES (engineering sample.) Note that it is 6MHz (not 5) and from what I gather, it didn’t make it to full production. Take care, Howard Hi, I have a bunch of DEC boards that need a good home. I don't know the functionality of these DEC boards. They appear to be in good shape. The description info is what I got of the internet. Let me know if any of these are interesting and we will go from there. I am mostly interested in trading for old microprocessors for my collection. Regards, Norm Here's my DEC board list. MODULE OPTION BUS DESCRIPTION M7095 KD11-Z U 11/44 control module M7096 KD11-Z U 11/44 multifunction module M7097 KK11-B U 11/44 4-Kword cache module M7098 KD11-Z U 11/44 UNIBUS interface M8192 KDJ11-AA Q LSI-11/73 CPU, 8-Kbyte cache, not FPJ11-AA (The DEC cpu chip not supplied with this board). M7900 RK611 U RK06/07 Unibus interface, hex M7901 RK611 U RK06/07 register module, hex M7902 RK611 U RK06/07 control module, hex M7903 RK611 U RK06/07 data module, hex M7904 RK611 U RK06/07 drive interface module, hex M7651 DRV1W-S Q General-Purpose DMA Interface? M7255 RK11-D U RK05 disk control module M7256 RK11-D U RK05 registers module (data path) M7257 RK11-D U RK05 bus control module M8200-YA DMC11-R U 1-line sync DDCMP microprocessor with 1K control/ ROM (point-to-point, used with M8201). M8201 DMC11 U 1-line sync DDCMP DMA, EIA & V35 line board ---end----

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making disk images

by rschaefe＠gcfn.org

Anyone know of an easy to make and restore disk images on peasea hardware? I've got a few on-topic boxes that I want to use for projects, but I also don't want to blow away the existing software as some of it is interesting and hard-to-replace. Bonus points if the image is browsable after moving but it must be able to restore to an identical state from basically the bare metal. What I'm thinking of is a NetBSD boot disk with enough software in the ramdisk to dd an image onto and off of an NFS mount, but before I start in on it I was wondering if anyone else had a solution. Thanks Bob

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Reading a VMS CD-ROM for SIMH under Windows?

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

I know exactly what to do under UNIX, but I'm attempting to help out someone else - I have the Montagar Hobbyist CD-ROM and I'm trying to create an ISO file to feed to SIMH. We have tried three different CD-ROM slurping programs from shareware.com and download.com, but no success. They seem to have heartburn because the disc is not mounted under Windows. Has anyone gone from CD-ROM to running VAX under Windows? How did you get files off the distro? Thanks, -ethan

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More DEC cards available

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

Oh, those aren't 11/44 cards. RK611 M7900 RK06/07 Unibus interface RK611 M7901 RK06/07 register module RK611 M7903 RK06/07 data module RK611 M7904 RK06/07 driver interface module The 11/44 cards are M7090 KD11-Z U 11/44 console interface module M7091 KE44-A U 11/44 CIS control store module M7092 KE44-A U 11/44 CIS data path/logic module M7093 FP11-F U 11/44 floating point module M7094 KD11-Z U 11/44 data path module M7095 KD11-Z U 11/44 control module M7096 KD11-Z U 11/44 multifunction module M7097 KK11-B U 11/44 4-Kword cache module M7098 KD11-Z U 11/44 UNIBUS interface > >Who was offering these cards originally? I didn't pay much attention at >the time, but now that you mention that they are 11/44 cards I should pick >up spares for the 11/44 I have that I need to get running. > > >> > M7900 >> > M7903 >> > M7904 >> >>Anyone here repairing an 11/44? IIRC those are the console interface, >>floating point processor and data path for that machine. >> >>-tony _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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More DEC cards available

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

Who was offering these cards originally? I didn't pay much attention at the time, but now that you mention that they are 11/44 cards I should pick up spares for the 11/44 I have that I need to get running. > > M7900 > > M7903 > > M7904 > >Anyone here repairing an 11/44? IIRC those are the console interface, >floating point processor and data path for that machine. > >-tony _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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More DEC cards available

by anheier＠owt.com

This is the final lot of DEC boards I need to clear out. If there are no takers, they go to the recycler next week. Thanks Norm I want $5 each + shipping. M8192, no processor M8200 YA M8201 M7255 M7256 M7257 M7651 M7900 M7903 M7904 I also have an old ST-251 hard disk. Thanks for your interest Norm

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IC 74F582

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

And I've found this .. B1 1+-v-+16 Vcc B2 2| |15 A2 B3 3| |14 A1 A3 4| |13 A0 S=A+B+Cn Cn 5| |12 B0 Cn+4=OUT Cn+4 6| |11 S0 S2 7| |10 S1 GND 8+---+9 S3 Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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