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486 DOS machines OT yet? Networking on Same?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Ron Hudson <rhudson(a)cnonline.net> wrote: > Anybody know how to network DOS 6.22? > > I need a telnet and an FTP. I have an SMC Elite 16C Ultra > ethernet card, with the driver diskette. NCSA Telnet (which includes a DOS command-line FTP client) and the packet driver from your driver diskette? This works for me. > I want it to talk to my Samba equiped Linux Server... If you want to be able to mount it as a network drive, you are probably looking for LAN Manager (as a client) or an MS-DOS NFS client (I know there were some commercial offerings, don't know about free). -Frank McConnell

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cctech digest, Vol 1 #442 - 3 msgs

by paul.shubel＠verizon.net

> Hi, gang, > > I've got a single EPROM file that I need to split into separate odd-byte/even-byte files for programming into two separate (smaller) EPROMs. I'm not able to figure out how to make the Unisite programmer do this, so I'm thinking a DOS or Windoze based splitting utility will do the trick. > > Here's the problem; I've searched all over Google, and can't find anything that'll work. I searched with "split+srecord" and I found this site right off. http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/softeng/Aegis/srecord.html Sometimes luck helps. Cheers, Paul

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DEC RRD40S Drive... Caddy?

by jwb＠paravolve.net

Available device DKB100: device type RRD40S I have one of these in my VAXserver 3100... It appears to take a caddy? Is this the type of thing I could hope to find on ebay? -jwb -- ## James W. Brinkerhoff <jwb(a)paravolve.net> ## ## GPG Key Sig: EBF1 6C24 0814 A3E9 6E93 649C 1F25 D807 E484 C9B9 [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

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486 DOS machines OT yet? Networking on Same?

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

If they are not OT please let me know... Anybody know how to network DOS 6.22? I need a telnet and an FTP. I have an SMC Elite 16C Ultra ethernet card, with the driver diskette. (warning REALLY OT part starts here, please don OT resistant glasses ) I want it to talk to my Samba equiped Linux Server... :^) Thanks. Ron.

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FS: S/390

by vance＠neurotica.com

Hi people. I'm looking at selling one of my S/390 G1's. It comes complete with storage, DASD, and maybe a peripheral or two. It has software on it, but you are responsible for licensing issues. Anyone interested? Peace... Sridhar

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Pinout info wanted for Ghielmetti FER-201 papertape reader....

by jos.mar＠bluewin.ch

Subject says it all. Ghielmetti is still in business, but rather unresponsive to my questions... Jos Dreesen

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PDP8/L power supply schematic wanted...

by jos.mar＠bluewin.ch

I am looking for the 8/L power supply schematic in order to repair my machine. The immidiate culprit is clear ( burned out transformator ), but the schematics would give enough information to rewire the transformator. All online pages do not give anything beyond a very small section on the regulated output voltages. Jos Dreesen

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Need byte-splitter utility

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Bruce Lane" <kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com> wrote: > I've got a single EPROM file that I need to split into > separate odd-byte/even-byte files for programming into two separate > (smaller) EPROMs. I'm not able to figure out how to make the Unisite > programmer do this, so I'm thinking a DOS or Windoze based splitting > utility will do the trick. Under Un*x, srec_cat from SRecord can be used for this purpose. It looks like it can be built for Win32 using gcc under Cygwin too. <http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/softeng/Aegis/srecord.html> -Frank McConnell

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Need byte-splitter utility

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

I would guess that there is a way to do this all with the Unisite software since that is a pretty standard operation with any programmer. But for a different way to do it, how about WinHex ? http://www.sf-soft.de/winhex/index-m.html The feature list includes: Binary, Hex ASCII, Intel Hex, and Motorola S conversion z. B. for (E)PROM programmers. Edit | Convert Unifying and dividing odd and even bytes/words for (E)PROM programmers. File Manager | Unify/Dissect > I've got a single EPROM file that I need to split into separate >odd-byte/even-byte files for programming into two separate (smaller) >EPROMs. I'm not able to figure out how to make the Unisite programmer do >this, so I'm thinking a DOS or Windoze based splitting utility will do the >trick. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Any UK list members?

by lowendpc＠o2.co.uk

If anyone on here is from the UK, they might want to take a look at http://computerhardwareneeded.cjb.net and read this guys story

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hp-85A & 128K mem module question

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I don't have access to my books at the moment. Does anyone know what command or process you would use on a HP-85A to verify that the 128K Memory Module that plugs into the back of The HP is working. I seem to remember that the 85A needs a ROM to use a 128K Memory Module. If this is true what one? I just looked in my 1982 HP Catalog and it indicates that the 85A cannot access that much memory, that it was limited to max of 112K in a certain configuration. I cannot find my 1984 catalog at the moment and my 85 books are buried in storage. Any help appreciated. Paxton Astoria, OR

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H89 as serial terminal

by mr＠jasongullickson.com

Is there any (easy) way to use an H89 as a serial terminal, VT100 even? mr(a)jasongullicskon.com

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Two more DEC boards need home.

by anheier＠owt.com

I have two DEC boards left from my clean out. They are M8200 YA M8201 Good shape, untested. $8 for both + shipping. Please send me your zip code and I prefer paypal. Thanks! Norm

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Free Stuff in Dallas, TX

by jrice54＠charter.net

I had someone pick up the Amiga stuff, but I still have some things that have to go: Calcomp 1043GT "E" plotter with a couple of hundred pens Numonics 2200 "E" size digitizer with power supply, puck and cables Tandy 2000 with keyboard, VM-1 monitor Tandy 1400LT with power brick. The battery is dead, but the syatem boots. Batteries+ said that they could rebuild the battery. Everything works, I just don't have the room anymore. If nobody wants this stuff, it's going to the curb. I'm located in Rockwall, Tx but I work near downtown Dallas. Almost any area in the metroplex can be arranged for a pickup. -- http://webpages.charter.net/jrice54/classiccomp2.html

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3.5" 720K floppy drives

by cb＠mythtech.net

>anyone have any of these floating around? I may need a few in the near >future I have one, but I'm not sure if it works 100% of the time. I've had problems with it in the past, but I never bothered to debug enough to see if it was the drive, or something else (it was only used for one job, and the client for that job was notorious for sending bad disks, so it could simply have always been the disks). Its a 3.5" in a 5.25" half height case (not a removable adaptor shell, but an actual 5.25 casing). If you want it, you can have it for the cost of shipping from 07450. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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An on-topic machine *still* doing useful work

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 3/27/2003 11:56:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, spc(a)conman.org writes: << I thought you guys might enjoy the following photographs of a 486 based NCR 3230 that is *still* in use, as a colocated server running a dozen websites (including mine [1]) and email: http://www.conman.org/people/myg/photos/tower486/ The photos were taken by my friend (who happened to stop the colocation facility for another reason). >> I've got one even better! Some companies are still using Atari Mega STs to run mail inserters. I'm trying to get one of these machines from a site that is upgrading.

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Tek 4051 FS on E-bay

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2518874309&category=4677> It works and looks like it's in good shape. Includes some manuals. Joe

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AXP 7000 startup, now doing OSF/1

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> I have installed OSF/1 on the AXP 7000 and it's working. Quite a bit > more snappy than the VAX6460. Man, I have no room for this machine > left and now I love it so much! I don't doubt it's a nice machine, much larger than I'm brave enough to tackle though. The biggest such machine I'd like would be a VAX4000 class system. Eventually I'd like to get something like an DS20 or ES40 for running VMSon. > I'd give you login account (over my dialup IP) just the problem I > am having is that after I built the custom kernel it still won't > let any user other than root login. It says "too many users logged > in alread, try again later". And that with zero users logged in > at the time. Can you think of any file I might be overlooking? > I can only think of /etc/nologin or something. My maxusers is at 32 > in the kernel configuration. I can't think why this would not be > correct in the kernel. Do you have License PAK's installed that allow multiple users? For that matter, do you have any License PAK's installed? If you don't have licenses, a lot of stuff won't work. Zane

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PDP-11/35 FC?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

First, what's the significance of the FC on the model number? Second, I went through chassis and here's a list of the cards in it. QED stands for Quickware Engineering & Designs. They made several of the cards in this one. Anyone have any info on them? H,Q,U stand for Hex-bus, Quad-bus and Uni-bus respectively. Anyone want to take a stab at id'ing these cards? Slot: Card: 4 M7231D H Data Path 7 CI M60 made by QED Q 9 90 CPU made by QED has DCJ11-AA IC Q 11 MS 95 made by QED H 15-16 M920 U 19-20 M920 U 16 M7254 Q 17 M7255 Q 18 M7256 Q 19 M7257 Q 22 M7762 H 23 Tektronix CL3 Date/Time Option Q 24 Datasystems DLP-11 Q Printer card? 27 M7228 Q 29 M7800 Q 31 M7800 Q 33 M7800 Q 36 M7911 Q 37 M7912 H 38 M7821 fits in single slot (#2) 38 M105 fits in single slot (#3) 38 M796 fits in single slot (#4) 38 M930 U bus terminator? installed in bottom two slots 39 M795 installed u[pside down. Is this correct? Joe

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Apple II Graphics Tablet

by univac2＠earthlink.net

I recently acquired an Apple II graphics tablet, along with the controller and a plastic overlay that isn't in great shape. Does anyone have any overlays for this thing? It's really cool and I'd like to get it all cleaned up nicely and connected to my II+. -- Owen Robertson

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DEC RL-01?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Are these drives worth anything? Joe

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OpenVMS Hobbyist CD, Reading under Linux/BSD ?

by jwb＠paravolve.net

I want to attempt to install OpenVMS 7.2 via MOP over the network, to do this I need to get the files off the CD since I don't actually have another VAX to read the CD on. (I'm using a Linux host running mopd... I was able to install NetBSD that way) Anyone know how I could read the data off the CD under Linux or *BSD ? -jwb

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Vaxen vultures on ebay ... and is "rtlacy" here?

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, Joe Moir from Boston just did the ultimate sell off of his VAX11 gear. Boy the stuff went for $50 per box. An 11/780, 11/785, and an 11/795, ahem, 8650. The were all in ugly parted out shape, but significant sources for spares. I now have an 11/785 backplane, and since my 11/780 doesn't work properly anyway, I can just as well start converting it. I almost had all three of those, but a fellow with ebay name "rtlacy" had made a little more decisive bids on them. Now I wonder, just in case, is anyone of you out in the Boston area, just in case? regards, -Gunther

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help with external floppy drive

by paulm064＠icqmail.com

Please help with info of this floppy drive. 3 1/2" floppy drive external aluminium case manufacturer : California Access model no. : CA-880 fccid : gea4btrf302c Made In Hong Kong Need to know the system its designed to run on (ie: dos,unix etc) and available drivers. thanks

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H89 as serial terminal

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Steven N. Hirsch" <shirsch(a)adelphia.net> > >On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Jason J. Gullickson wrote: > >> Is there any (easy) way to use an H89 as a serial terminal, VT100 even? > >Yes. The H89 was an H11 terminal with CPU and drive control boards added. He means H19, not H11. Dwight >I think you need to physically remove these and plug the cable from the >DB-25 connector into the terminal PCB. > >I'm not too sharp on the details now, but I successfully converted several >of them in this manner, circa 1990. > >Steve

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3.5" 720K floppy drives

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

anyone have any of these floating around? I may need a few in the near future

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ebay bid on dec rack

by jwest＠kwcorp.com

FYI - I'm likely going to be bidding on the DEC "3 high" rack on Ebay that includes an RA81. The RA81 is missing the HDA, and I have no need for it, I just want the rack as it's the right height to mate to my 11/44X. If anyone wants the RA81-HDA, let me know before it gets skipped. Jay West

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PDP 8/L repair log - hopefully the LAST installment!

by charlesmorris＠direcway.com

The 8/L is finally fixed! The final interesting failures were: The Group 2 microinstructions (CLA, IAC, etc) would not work. Changed the relevant 7400 - still only weak wiggles. Tracked it down to a dead short on the AC CLEAR line. Turns out that one of the ground bus strips that run the length of the backplane had buckled just enough to touch the exposed wire at the bottom of the pin it was supposed to make a circle around! That was really fun to locate. Lastly, the TTY receiver card M706 would only work when on an extender card. When in the backplane it would receive only one character and "hang" until power cycled. I spent a lot of time in a fruitless search for a bad backplane contact. Finally I found on the stop bit flipflops that their PRESET pins were floating (a frequent bad habit of DEC in their early design was to leave uncommitted TTL inputs to float, which works fine as long as it's an electrically "quiet" environment. Which a card handling 20mA TTY signals is NOT). A quick 1K pullup to +5 and it hasn't dropped a bit since. I've just finished constructing my "DF32x4" disk simulator (PC boards in a 1U [1.75" high] rack chassis). I'm starting to debug now - so far I had a bad IDC connector and (of course) no spare. I will make Eagle .SCH and .BRD files available to anyone who wants them IF it ever works ;) -Charles [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of mvc-457e.jpg]

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What is this? eBay #3409766995

by melamy＠earthlink.net

considering that the processor and eproms are missing. It looks to me to be a 8080 based board. The 28 pin chip close to the forty pin missing chip could be the 8228. The metal area to the left was probably where a breadbaord strip used to be. There are LEDs and a connector strip close to the breadboard area. It looks like a electronics experimenter system actually. His reference to the first laptop is pretty silly. best regards, Steve Thatcher >--- Original Message --- >From: acme(a)ao.net >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Date: 3/28/03 9:32:48 AM > Described as "One of the first portable computers ever made," hex keypad, >the word "Eclipse" on side of unit, fits in a briefcase, seller claims it >was made for Lawrence Livermore Labs. > >Any ideas? > >Glen >0/0

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Fw: AdamComputer.com domains

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Question.... Was there a vintage computer called an "Adam"? I *THINK* I recall hearing something about that name. If so, then the below email MAY be of interest to someone. If there wasn't such a computer, then this email is SPAM and I apologize for posting it here. Jay West ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dusty Fohs" <dusty(a)rumcakerecipe.com> To: <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:01 AM Subject: AdamComputer.com domains > Hello, > > We purchased the domain names AdamComputer.com & AdamComputers.com for a project that we are no longer able to develop. > > Domains for sale are: > > www.AdamComputer.com > www.AdamComputers.com > > I wanted to see if you have an interest or know of someone who could make use of these domains. We are just looking to recoup what we paid for these domains, as they no longer fall into our business plans. > > Let me know if you are interested or if you have any questions. > > Thanks, > > Dusty > dusty(a)rumcakerecipe.com

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What is this? eBay #3409766995

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Maybe this?: http://home.pacbell.net/mmetzler/discuss.txt <quote> Subject: Lawrence Livermore Computer Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:57:32 -0800 From: "Mike Mori" To: I was refered to your web page by Doug Yowza. I was hoping that you would have some information on a LLL MST-80 microprocessor trainer I found a few years back. The unit is a Intel 8080 based single board system with a keypad and 3 digit display. It is mounted in a briefcase with a proto board and power supply. Any info you might have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. </quote> -----Original Message----- From: acme(a)ao.net [mailto:acme@ao.net] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:33 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: What is this? eBay #3409766995 Described as "One of the first portable computers ever made," hex keypad, the word "Eclipse" on side of unit, fits in a briefcase, seller claims it was made for Lawrence Livermore Labs. Any ideas? Glen 0/0

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What is this? eBay #3409766995

by acme＠ao.net

Described as "One of the first portable computers ever made," hex keypad, the word "Eclipse" on side of unit, fits in a briefcase, seller claims it was made for Lawrence Livermore Labs. Any ideas? Glen 0/0

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DEC dot matrix printer

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

Yes, the C.Itoh 8510 was the same as the original Apple Imagewriter. NEC also sold this printer along with the NEC 2001 Computer in the 80's. A great printer. Regards, Al > From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com> > > As far as I am aware, the LA75 and AppleImagewriter > are almost the same printer except for firmware. > They both use the same ribbons, I'm 100% sure of > that. I seem to recall that they're also similar to > another "generic" printer (C-Itoh or something like > that) but I don't remember what it was. > > - Bob P.S. Sorry about posting an incomplete reply, accidentally pressed <RETURN> at the wrong time, and Yahoo! sent a reply before I was done..

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DEC dot matrix printer

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

From: "Bob Lafleur" <bob_lafleur(a)technologist.com> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 14:40:52 -0500 Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org As far as I am aware, the LA75 and AppleImagewriter are almost the same printer except for firmware. They both use the same ribbons, I'm 100% sure of that. I seem to recall that they're also similar to another "generic" printer (C-Itoh or something like that) but I don't remember what it was. - Bob

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Looking for....RL02 controller for PDP-8E M8433?

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I've heard these really aren't to be found anywhere, but thought I'd check with the list. I'd like to get a disk subsystem on my PDP-8E. I've pretty much given up that I'll ever find an RK05 drive and controller for it, so I'm now looking to hook up an existing RL02 drive to it. I think this is done via the M8433? Would anyone have one available for trade or purchase (the controller, not the drive)? Thanks! Jay West

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Forward from rescue list... Pr1me Memory

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

In case any prime people are interested... Jay West ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Enestvedt" <Will.Enestvedt(a)jwu.edu> To: <rescue(a)sunhelp.org> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 7:47 AM Subject: [rescue] FW: Free RAM to Good Home > > I have some RAM that will go to "Hazardous Waste" if someone > > does not want it. All I would ask is that you pay the ground > > shipping. All of the RAM is VERY old as you can see by the > > list below. I tested some of the Clearpoint RAM as recent at > > a year ago and it worked fine. However, I cannot guarantee anything. > > > > Marc B. <snip> > > 8 Prime Computer Inc RAM D/C 1190P Unknown

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1/2 Racore 1500 for PCjr

by nampcjr＠yahoo.com

I was able to get an upper unit of a Racore 1500 for the PCjr. Many Racore Expansions have the standard 5.25" in them (model 1200) and then some even had 3.5" drives in them...what makes this one cool is that there is a HDD installed! The only thing missing is the double-height sidecar, and therefore is pretty useless at the moment. Does anyone have one of these sidecars for the 1500 in a pile of "Stuff" by chance? That might seem funny, but that is how this top unit was located, however ut seems to be in pristene condition. Thanks! Brian Heise

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Identification of an old machine

by Paul.Hills＠siemens.co.uk

Now you come to mention it, there's no guarantee that it was a computer. What you describe may well have been it. Do you have any model numbers or manuafcturers for that thing you described? cheers, paul -----Original Message----- From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] Sent: 27 March 2003 21:04 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Identification of an old machine > This is going to be rather difficult I think. In 1977 when I first went to > high school, we had a visiting computer science teacher (the school didn't > own it's own computer). He used to come in with a PET mostly, but one day he > couldn't bring the PET so came in with this old machine which was roughly > cubic, each side about 2 foot. On the front it had a wiring panel where you > had to plug in patch leads, and a rotary dial like on old telephones which > was used to dial the numbers in. I don't remember how it displayed its > results. > > Being a first year student and never faced with a computer before I had no > idea what to do with it, and so don't remember much about it. However, now > I'm intrigued - what was that beast? Does anyone have any ideas? Are you sure it was a computer? And not a digital electronics 'trainer'? There was a popular-ish school digital electronics trainer in the UK that fits most of your description. It wasn't cubical, it was flat -- about 2' long, 1' wide and a few inches high. There was a rotary telephone dial, light bulbs, and patch sockets on the front. Inside were 5 or 6 flip-flops and a number of gates connected to the patch sockets. There may have been other circuits, like a clock oscillator, monostables, etc too. You could patch them together to make counters, shift registers, combinatorial circuits, etc. Some of the 'applications' were quite fun (there were certainly simple games for it, for example). -tony

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What the heck is a CP 1160?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

This is a BIG box with a front panel with blinking lights and switches. The switches are odd egg shaped things and not the usually round or flat handled things. I think this is some kind of PDP-11. Is was part of a Tektronix CS-3260 test station and has a Tektronix badge on it. Joe

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Want to buy a book about Bill Gates?

by MTPro＠aol.com

Ha ha, yes, seriously. I have a couple of new copies of the book, "Overdrive: Bill Gates and the Race to Control Cyberspace" by James Wallace. Paperback, 320 pages, 1997. This was the sequel to "Hard Drive" and is the story of Microsoft's response to Netscape's challenge to control the web browser market. A pretty good read, as well as the original book. Anyway, just $5 gets you a copy shipped! Also, if anyone is interested, I've got one more thing to hock: A sealed VHS video, "Apple's Operating System Strategy, March 1997" and a sealed CD, "The 1997 Apple MacAdvocate CD-ROM." This set is an excellent snap-shot of the state of Apple in Mid-1997, when Steve Jobs returned. The tape is just 15 minutes, but is great entertainment, with an explanation of the "future" of the Mac OS, when it incorporates the NeXT OS. Remember the blue box? A great feature is a presentation by Steve Jobs showing how easy it is to create a simple app in NeXTSTEP. The CD has all kinds of information on it, including the following folders: Read Me First!, Presentations, Goodies, Comments?, Free Stuff!, Welcome from Guy!, Apple Products, MacOS, Product Info, System 7.6 Demos, AppleFacts, and all of these Commercials: 1984_BIG.MOV, STEWART.MOV, DINOSAUR.MOV, ASTRONMY.MOV, SPIKELEE.MOV, SALESREP.MOV, GATES.MOV, KAWASAKI.MOV, HIGHTIDE.MOV, MMATLIN.MOV, INTERN ET.MOV, VALVOLIN.MOV, CURVEBAL.MOV, CRANBRIS.MOV, CROWD.MOV, BMW.MOV. $10 shipped! Thanks, David

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An on-topic machine *still* doing useful work

by spc＠conman.org

I thought you guys might enjoy the following photographs of a 486 based NCR 3230 that is *still* in use, as a colocated server running a dozen websites (including mine [1]) and email: http://www.conman.org/people/myg/photos/tower486/ The photos were taken by my friend (who happened to stop the colocation facility for another reason). The machine in question was given to me in 1998 in the hopes that I could use it, so one minimal installation of RedHat 5.2 (kernel is now Linux 2.0.39) later and it's colocated, running my website (and over the years, an accumulation of websites of various friends) with an uptime (as of this writing) of: [spc]tower:~>uptime 11:48pm up 357 days, 1:05, 4 users, load average: 0.02, 0.14, 0.13 [spc]tower:~> (Holy cow! Eight more days and I'll have a bona-fide year up time on this! Didn't realize I was that close). I should say that the machine has been running in this capacity since I received it in late '98 without a major problem (In '99 or so I added a second 17G harddrive to the system since the 162MB drive it came with is a *wee* bit small for its intended uses). -spc (In fact, I run elm on that system to check my email ... )

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Identification of an old machine

by Paul.Hills＠siemens.co.uk

Yes it was in the UK. From what I remember it looked manufactured, but it could have been built from a kit I suppose. If you could scan just the picture from that magazine that'd be great. Replying to other kind people who have responded, It wasn't either of the two machines you have posted links to - MiniVac 601 or Heathkit EC-1, but it looked a bit like the Heathkit one except the wiring grid was smaller and in the top left (I think), and there was a telephone dial - exactly the same as that found on old telephones - on the right hand side too (can't remember what must have been on the left!). Thanks for everyone's help anyway, cheers, paul -----Original Message----- From: Hans B Pufal [mailto:hansp@aconit.org] Sent: 27 March 2003 09:56 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Identification of an old machine Hills, Paul wrote: > This is going to be rather difficult I think. In 1977 when I first went to > high school, we had a visiting computer science teacher (the school didn't > own it's own computer). He used to come in with a PET mostly, but one day he > couldn't bring the PET so came in with this old machine which was roughly > cubic, each side about 2 foot. On the front it had a wiring panel where you > had to plug in patch leads, and a rotary dial like on old telephones which > was used to dial the numbers in. I don't remember how it displayed its > results. Interesting, I presume from your email address that this was in the UK. The first thing that came to mind was the Wireless World computer, this was a construction project published in the Aug thru Dec 1967 issues of that magazine. (on my long list of things I to scan someday). The 'computer' had an 8 bit word and a 3 word memory and an accumulator. It could perform various arithemetic operations. The actual published articles do not show a telephone dial but ISTR some mention of extensions based on telephone equipment : dials and strowger switches. The size and propotions seem to fit, the published design had switches and lights on the front panel and no plug-board. Do you recollect if the machine was homebrewed or manufactured? -- hbp

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OpenVMS Hobbyist CD, Reading under Linux/BSD ?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> I want to attempt to install OpenVMS 7.2 via MOP over the network, to do this I > need to get the files off the CD since I don't actually have another VAX to read > the CD on. (I'm using a Linux host running mopd... I was able to install > NetBSD that way) > > Anyone know how I could read the data off the CD under Linux or *BSD ? Is there ODS-2 filesystem support for Linux? I think there might be, and that's what you would need to be able to read the CD. Take a look at the DECnet/Linux project, if there is ODS-2 support, they should have a link to it. Another alternative might be to get SIMH running on the Linux box, install VMS on that, and then use SIMH (which includes network support) to get OpenVMS installed on the VAX. I've no idea if this would work, and if you get it working I'm sure others would be interested in knowing how you did it. Zane

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DEC RL-01?

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Are these drives worth anything? There a 5MB drive. I think the major use for them is Hobbyist systems, commercial systems using RL0x drives probably use the 10MB RL02 drives (though I'm sure there are some commercial installations still using RL01's). Zane

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Two ESDI drives available

by CCTalk＠catcorner.org

I have two: Imprimis 94166-182 (150 MB) Maxtor XT-4170E (170MB) Any one need them? I collect mostly old Tandy stuff. Model II, 12, 16, 6000 is my main focus. Any interesting uses for these boat anchors? Thanks, Kelly

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HP 7906 disk drives

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

There's a BUNCH of these things in a scrap place here in central Florida if anyone is looking for one. I do not have a way to ship, store, move them. You'll have to come get them. Joe

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Freebie: Sumna(?) puck and pen

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Who was looking for a pen and/or puck for a Sumna Graphics tablet just recently? Today I found a bag with a puck, pen, adapter cable and wall wart. It's your's for the postage and a little beer money if you still need it. I'm not sure if this one is for a Sumna tablet, there's no name on it. Both the pen and puck have cables with 8 pin male RJ-style connectors. There's also a cable that goes from RJ male on one end to DB-25 Female on the other. Also a 12 VDC 200 Ma wall wart with a male co-axial plug. Joe

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Identification of an old machine

by Paul.Hills＠siemens.co.uk

This is going to be rather difficult I think. In 1977 when I first went to high school, we had a visiting computer science teacher (the school didn't own it's own computer). He used to come in with a PET mostly, but one day he couldn't bring the PET so came in with this old machine which was roughly cubic, each side about 2 foot. On the front it had a wiring panel where you had to plug in patch leads, and a rotary dial like on old telephones which was used to dial the numbers in. I don't remember how it displayed its results. Being a first year student and never faced with a computer before I had no idea what to do with it, and so don't remember much about it. However, now I'm intrigued - what was that beast? Does anyone have any ideas? cheers, paul

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DEC dot matrix printer

by cb＠mythtech.net

I have a Digital LA75-A2 "Companion Printer" available if anyone wants it. I don't know if it works, and I have no way to test it. It was pulled >from a dumpster a few weeks ago, and John didn't want it (John has first dibs on anything DEC that I get because he's been feeding me a fairly steady stream of old Macs). John took everything else. The printer looks clean, and is physically in good condition. Other items I pulled from the dumpster that I have been able to test have all worked fine for the most part (for instance, the HP LJ 4 that I pulled is up and running just fine, and the 5L works but does the typical grabbing of too many pages from the hopper that all of HPs in that stand up design seem to do, and so far every cable that I pulled has tested ok). So I have no reason to believe the printer doesn't work... but like I said, I got it from a dumpster, and have no way to test it, so I can't promise anything. If anyone wants it, its free. Just come pick it up or cover shipping from NJ (07450). Or if you are anywhere between Ridgewood and Wayne or Wayne and Eatontown, I can drop it off tomorrow (friday) when I am out hitting two of my offices. If no one wants it, it will most likely end up back in the dumpster (I might see if there are any print engine parts I can pull as visually it looks like it may be based on the same engine the Apple ImageWriter 1 is built around... if anyone can confirm that let me know). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Semi-OT; A new way to solder SMT

by bpope＠wordstock.com

Use a toaster-oven!! http://www.seattlerobotics.org/encoder/200006/oven_art.htm Cheers, Bryan

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ID this DEC card? GS-2 5015484-01-k1-p1

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Anybody know what this card is? It has no card edge connectors like a Q-bus or Unibus card but does have a metal plate with connectors along one side. The plate has a BNC, DB-9M, DB-15M, DB-25M, RJ (something) and an eight pin Molex connecotr on it. The board has a NEC 7220 graphics IC, an AMD 8085 CPU and several LSICs with DEC copywrites on it. Joe

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Dear Santa, I would like a VAX....

by avickers＠solutionengineers.com

Having fond memories of using VAXen (specifically, an 8800) back in my 'stoodent' days, and in more recent times too (unknown type @ JP Morgan), and further having seen numerous references to OpenVMS & VAXen on this list, I got to thinking... I'd actually quite like a VAX. Unfortunately, this is probably impossible in the short term - unless I want to buy the MicroVAX 3100 currently on eBay @ a fiver. But that's not a *real* VAX, it's just not big enough... And besides, it hasn't got a CD-ROM, which I will need to load OpenVMS. Anyway, following yet another link posted on this list revealed the PDP-11 (and, coincidentally, VAX) simulator. Nice. So I downloads it, along with MinGW (anyone else think of "minging[1] Windows" immediately, or is it just me?), compile it, and eventually figure out roughly how to get to the basic VAX ">>>" prompt. And here, I'm rather stuck. So, does anyone have any nice'n'easy instructions on how to get the SIMH VAX simulator ready for OpenVMS? I've read both the simulator document & the VAX document, and I'm still well in the dark WRT how to get it up & running... Basically, I've no idea what devices to ATTACH, what or how to configure it, and so forth. Obviously, I'll have to sort out an OpenVMS kit before I can do anything remotely useful, and I'll probably need an extra HDD in the PC (<1gig free now), blah blah. (oh yes, and Hans has found several faults in my websites which I /really/ ought to fix first... - but, well, you know how it goes :) So, can anyone help? TIA! [1] "minging" {v}: "really ugly" (he/she's minging) or quite smelly and rotten (that bin's minging). UK expression (poss. Northern UK only). -- Cheers, Ade. Be where it's at, B-Racing! http://b-racing.com

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AdamComputer.com domains

by dusty＠rumcakerecipe.com

Hello, We purchased the domain names AdamComputer.com & AdamComputers.com for a project that we are no longer able to develop. Domains for sale are: www.AdamComputer.com www.AdamComputers.com I wanted to see if you have an interest or know of someone who could make use of these domains. We are just looking to recoup what we paid for these domains, as they no longer fall into our business plans. Let me know if you are interested or if you have any questions. Thanks, Dusty dusty(a)rumcakerecipe.com

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Happy Enhancement

by murphy_dennis_b＠emc.com

Hello all, Just broke my old Atari out of jail (closet). The setup is an Atari 800 with 2-810 disk drives, one of them with the Happy Enhancement. I can't for the life of me fine the manual for the Happy drive. Can anyone help. Thanks, Dennis

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Computer Pioneer Adam Osborne Dies

by harrowsmith＠attbi.com

Online staff -- Electronic News, 3/25/2003 Portable computer pioneer Adam Osborne died Monday at age 64 after a long illness, Reuters reported. The British immigrant and Berkeley, Calif., resident was famed for his introduction of the 23-pound luggable computer in 1981. The technology and his gutsy attempt to challenge then PC kings Apple Computer and IBM made his start-up, Osborne Computer Corp., the fastest-growing company up to that time. But the success ended in bankruptcy two years later, making Osborne's trials a forgotten example of the dangers of undisciplined growth that was recently repeated by various dot-commers. Career challenges were not new to Osborne, however. Originally a chemical engineering with Shell Oil, he gambled on a career in technical writing and publishing during the formative years of the PC industry. With an opportunity to go head-to-head with Apple in his sights, Osborne turned to developing the first commercially viable portable computer and was backed by Silicon Valley venture capitalist Jack Melchor. In Osborne Computer's first year, 1981, it had sold $5.8 million worth of the Osborne-1. By the end of 1982, the company had sold $68.8 million. But then Osborne boasted his second-generation product before it was ready to ship, pushing sales of his first model down. As the tech industry's seen happen many time since, an inventory build up occurred, forcing Osborne Computer to close in 1983. "His enthusiasm for the next big thing meant Adam couldn't keep a secret," Lee Felsenstein, co-founder of Osborne Computer, told Reuters. Compaq Computer Corp. snatched up the opportunity and introduced its first product, a portable computer, in 1983. Osborne was buried today in a local cemetery near his sister's home, in Kodiakanal, India, Reuters reported. Jon Titus Milford, MA jontitus(a)attbi.com [demime 1.01a removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]

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Trying to sell an old computer

by jmh＠SLAC.Stanford.EDU

This system is in a chassis that I got surplus, I built it myself. It's all Godbout inside because I knew Bill Godbout. It is now listed at http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3409426605 Jim

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Industrial VAX 630 info wanted...

by dwoyciesjes＠comcast.net

Gents, I have in my posession an Industrial VAX 630. Seen here... http://mywebpages.comcast.net/dwoyciesjes I was curious, can anyone give more info on it? -- ---Dave Woyciesjes ---ICQ# 905818

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Fw: AdamComputer.com domains

by knightstalkerbob＠netscape.net

Coleco Adam, two digital cassette drives, think it had a Z80, could run CP/M. Was also an add-on to the Coleco game console at the time, to turn it into an Adam as well. Don't remember time frame, mid eighties? "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> wrote: >Question.... > >Was there a vintage computer called an "Adam"? I *THINK* I recall hearing >something about that name. If so, then the below email MAY be of interest to >someone. If there wasn't such a computer, then this email is SPAM and I >apologize for posting it here. > >Jay West >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dusty Fohs" <dusty(a)rumcakerecipe.com> >To: <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> >Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:01 AM >Subject: AdamComputer.com domains > > >> Hello, >> >> We purchased the domain names AdamComputer.com & AdamComputers.com for a >project that we are no longer able to develop. >> >> Domains for sale are: >> >> www.AdamComputer.com >> www.AdamComputers.com >> >> I wanted to see if you have an interest or know of someone who could make >use of these domains. We are just looking to recoup what we paid for these >domains, as they no longer fall into our business plans. >> >> Let me know if you are interested or if you have any questions. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dusty >> dusty(a)rumcakerecipe.com > -- Bob Mason 2x Amiga 500's, GVP A530 (40mhz 68030/68882, 8meg Fast, SCSI), 1.3/3.1, 2meg Chip, full ECS chipset, EZ135, 1084S, big harddrives, 2.2xCD Gateway Performance 500 Piece 'o Crap, 'ME, 384meg, 20Gig & 40Gig, flatbed. Heathkit H-89A, 64K RAM, hard and soft-sectored floppies, SigmaSoft and Systems 256K RAM Drive/Print Spooler/Graphics board HDOS 2 & CP/M 2.2.03/2.2.04 __________________________________________________________________ Try AOL and get 1045 hours FREE for 45 days! http://free.aol.com/tryaolfree/index.adp?375380 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 for FREE! Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promos=380455

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AdamComputer.com domains

by adrian.vickers＠blue-edged.com

> From: Jay West [mailto:jwest@classiccmp.org] > > Question.... > > Was there a vintage computer called an "Adam"? I *THINK* I > recall hearing Indeed there was: The Coleco Adam. A Google search throws up a number of links & pix.

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Microvax 3400 on eBay

by terryf＠intersurf.com

In the for what it's worth column: MicroVax 3400 on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1484&item=3409069554

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Kleinstrechenautomat D4e

by mranalog＠attbi.com

Hans wrote: > Now, does anyone of you know about a similar machine > (especialy about the desktop part) produced in series > before 1963? All of the following are electronic desktop personal computers used by engineers and mass produced before 1963. I have copies of magazine ads for these computers: Electronic Associates Inc. Model TR-48 April 1962 Electronic Associates Inc. Model TR-10 June 1960 Donner Scientific Co. Model 3500 April 1960 Donner Scientific Co. Model 3400 February 1960 Of course there is also the Heath EC-1 introduced in 1960 and the Heath ES-400 introduced in 1956. --Doug ========================================= Doug Coward @ home in Poulsbo, WA Analog Computer Online Museum and History Center http://dcoward.best.vwh.net/analog =========================================

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Recovering data from disks...

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Jim Donoghue" <jim(a)smithy.com> > >I have several 5 1/4" *hard-sectored* floppy disks. These are in some >proprietary format, they are read by a controller that consists of a Z80 >CPU, an EPROM, and some TTL chips. All this thing does is read the >entire contents of the disk, outputting the data in parallel format over >a ribbon cable. This is used to load CPU microcode into static RAMS. >I want to be able to read the data from the disks, as I no longer have >the controller/drive (or the mainframe it came from.) >Any ideas? >-- >Jim Donoghue >Smithy Co. >(734) 913-6700 > Hi Get something like an EZKIT-lite from Analog Devices. These are proto typing boards for their DSP chips. These processors are fast enough to bit bang the data from floppies. You use one of the digital input lines. Once you determine the encoding method, you can look for the directory area or what ever. Dwight

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Recovering data from disks...

by jim＠smithy.com

I have several 5 1/4" *hard-sectored* floppy disks. These are in some proprietary format, they are read by a controller that consists of a Z80 CPU, an EPROM, and some TTL chips. All this thing does is read the entire contents of the disk, outputting the data in parallel format over a ribbon cable. This is used to load CPU microcode into static RAMS. I want to be able to read the data from the disks, as I no longer have the controller/drive (or the mainframe it came from.) Any ideas? -- Jim Donoghue Smithy Co. (734) 913-6700

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ebay bid on dec rack

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, Jay West wrote: > > FYI - I'm likely going to be bidding on the DEC "3 high" rack on Ebay that > > includes an RA81. The RA81 is missing the HDA, and I have no need for it, > > I just want the rack as it's the right height to mate to my 11/44X. If > > anyone wants the RA81-HDA, let me know before it gets skipped. > > :-) Of my 12 RA81s, 10 or so have Post-it notes saying "Bad HDA". I'm > starting to see a pattern here... If you look at the seller on eBay's auctions, you'll notice that he's pulled all the 'high demand' parts from everything that he's selling. In fact I don't think he's selling anything that's actually usable, unless like Jay you need a specific part of what he's selling. Zane

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HP 5451c terminal cable

by peterbrown10＠hotmail.com

Hi Glen and Joe, Thanks for your replies. I've had a closer look at the controller / computer / terminal connections. It seems to work something like this The 2648A terminal has a 13260A card that is connected via a short hooded edge connector and cable to a longer hooded edge connector on the rear of the 'controller' box. The controller box is then connected via another cable (that I have) to a 12531 card the HP 1000 computer. The long hooded connector on the controller has the same number of contacts as the 12531 card in the computer - so I would assume that it is just replicating the contacts in the computer. The controller box has a number of short-cut keys for various functions that the system can perform so I would guess that the controller can inject characters into the connection between the terminal and the computer. My memory is that all the funcions have two character shortcuts that can be typed in at the terminal and I notice a couple of cards with diode matricies in the controller. There is a diode array for each key consisting of up to 16 diodes - 2 lots of eight bit ascii - maybe. Anyhow, Glen it looks as though your cable detective work is correct. The cable is a 13232B p/n 02640-60058 for connecting the 2648A to a 12531 interface. Joe can you please have a fish around and see if you have the right cable + we can work something out. If not then I'll have to take the build-it-yourself approach. Many thanks to you both. Peter Brown _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059

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HP-86B Monitor question

by rhahm＠nycap.rr.com

I have acquired an HP-86B. Will this work with any older composite monochrome monitor with an RCA video in jack or only the HP monitors which seem to be hard to find? Thank you

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No Rear View (was Re: Take Two or Nothing)

by classiccmp＠crash.com

Ethan Dicks wrote: . > I brought home an 11/34, several RL02s and the two H960 DEC > racks (72" tall) in the back of my 1976 VW Microbus. Darn. I was getting set to respond to this thread with the tale of borrowing a friend's camper version Microbus to haul home my "new" VAX-11/730 in late 1990. But that was just a single low-boy cabinet, and now I feel like a whiner... ;^) --Steve.

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NS MM5290N-2 ?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I THINK this is the NS equivlent to the Intel 2117. Can anyone confirm that? Anybody have a data sheet for the 5290? Joe

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Free Motorola DTL?RTL chips

by classiccmp＠trailing-edge.com

OK, it's a few decades late, but I've got a few dozen Motorola chips from the early 70's that must be interesting to somebody: MC679P MC675P MC669P MC688P etc., all 14-pin DIP packages. I think these were Motorola's DTL line, but maybe they were really RTL - my brain cannot recall. Anyway, they're free (I'll even pay shipping) to whoever wants them, first come, first served. Tim.

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Kleinstrechenautomat D4e

by Hans.Franke＠mch20.sbs.de

Hre's one for the old-iron and who-was-first buffs. Take a look at http://www.tsd.de/lehmann/framed4a.htm The displayed machine is an East German development from the early 60's. The unit went into 'mass' production in 1963. It is sait that this might be the first desktop PC ever. The whole unit is self contained with CPU, two paper tape drived (one is also, IIRC, a puncher), and a front panel. THe comuter was ment to be as a 'workstation' on an engeneers desk. Now, does anyone of you know about a similar machine (especialy about the desktop part) produced in series before 1963? Gruss H. -- VCF Europa 4.0 am 03./04. Mai 2003 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/

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HP 5451c terminal cable

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

What kind of connector is on the system controller end? A card edge connector on an I/O board or something else? I have 264x terminal manuals at home that should have the pinout for the card edge connector on the terminal end and I can look that up later if no one else beats me to it. I think the card edge connector on the terminal end is not difficult to obtain but the 48? conductor card edge connector on HP 1000 I/O cards is difficult to obtain if that's what you have on the system controller end. >After pulling the parts of the system out of the store and trying to put it >all together I find that I am minus the cable that connects the display >terminal (an HP 2648A) to the system controller. The connector at the >system controller end is marked 'teletype'. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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NEC Multisync 5d - being skipped on Friday

by tim.myers＠protasis.co.uk

If any of you can get to Ellesmere Port, UK, before Friday, you can collect a NEC Multisync 5D. It's getting skipped on Friday - I cannot arrange shipping, so please don't ask. Please contact me off list, as I'm not monitoring the list actively for various political reasons... Tim.

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Trying to sell an old computer

by jmh＠SLAC.Stanford.EDU

I have the following stuff at a location near (115 miles west) Denver, Colorado; S100 Mainframe with: 20 Amp Power supply Godbout 6Meg-Z80 card Godbout disk controller card Godbout I/O card 64K memory card - mfg ? 2 DSDD 8 1/2" drives Visual 330 terminal Misc books and software All in unknown condition, worked 20 years ago when I last tried it. Been stored since then in a barn, was dry though. I could not figure out where to sell it on EBAY, any suggestions? Jim

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Look at this -

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Knew there was a reason why I wasn't a real Apple fan: > > > >Gore Joins Apple Board > > > >Apple CEO Steve Jobs said Gore "brings an incredible wealth > >of knowledge and wisdom to Apple from having run the largest > >organization in the world--the United States government--as > >a congressman, senator and our 45th vice president." > >http://eletters1.ziffdavis.com/cgi-bin10/flo/y/eUOp0BzN6x0DUm0vVG0AK > > > > > Joe > Yep, I view this as and MacOS X as good reasons to give up on Apple. Zane

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HP 5451c terminal cable

by glenslick＠hotmail.com

My 264X manual says a 13232B cable (p/n 02640-60058) connects a 13260A async interface in a 264X terminal to an HP 12531D or an HP 12880A computer interface. The 30 conductor card edge connector for the 264X terminal side should be easy to obtain. I think EDAC part 305-030-500-202 would work, approx $2.50 at DigiKey.com. For the 12531 side you need a 48 conductor card edge connector. I think EDAC part 305-048-500-202 would work, but I don't know where you can order that part without a large minimum order. Here's the 13232B cable wiring scheme from my 264X manual. Some day I should scan the picture... 264X Terminal 12531D Interface 13260A Interface 12880A Interface Data Out B --> X Data Out Data In C <-- W Data In CB E <-- U +12 VDC Ground H <-> 24 Ground CF J X8 Clock Out K --> L X8 Clock Out E,J connected D,4,Y connected T,16,V connected >>After pulling the parts of the system out of the store and trying to put >>it all together I find that I am minus the cable that connects the display >>terminal (an HP 2648A) to the system controller. The connector at the >>system controller end is marked 'teletype'. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Workslate + stuff available from me

by rhudson＠cnonline.net

Sorry - forgot to change subject when sent to m100 list... > From: Ron Hudson <rhudson(a)cnonline.net> > Date: Tue Mar 25, 2003 7:08:22 PM US/Pacific > To: m100(a)list.30below.com > Subject: Re: TPDD Assistance Request > > > Anyone interested in trade? > > Workslate Computer - Working > Workslate Pen printer - Not Tested > Workslate Coms Pod - Not Tested > Books for above - Working :^) > 2 power adapters. - Working > > What am I bid? : ^ ) > > I also have a Model 102 that is not available > and a NEC PC8300 which may be... > > > > ron.

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OOPS - NOT vt52, VT100

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> > What about software that will emulate a VT100 on a PC? > > Not that I'm the original requestor (I have VT52s, VT100s, VT220s > and VT240s, myself), but if one is going to consider using an > emulator, one has to ask does it do double-high-double-wide? 132 column? > Have a PF1/Gold key for EDT, etc.? That's the *real* trick, finding *anything* that comes close to giving you keypad support along with any other features that you might require. I can live without the double-high-double-wide and 132 column, but I've got to have the keypad! > I use emulators because I have to, but occasionally I find times where I > _really_ want a terminal (and not just 'cause it looks right). OTOH, if > I need to force-feed stuff down the throat of a classic system, even > an xterm window that's connected in some way to a serial port (kermit, > typically), is a great way to go. I find that the following script, that I got off of USENET a few years ago, is able to turn a Xterm into a usable VT100 (with keypad support). ftp://zane.brouhaha.com/pub/vms/vt100.sh > But, I suspect, in this case, it's simple aesthetics - the VT100 was > the dominant terminal when the 11/44 was current. It's nice to have > the proper accessories for ones vintage machines. I think Jay said as much, and I know that is why I've got a DECwriter II and three VT100's. They're for my /44, despite the fact that I really prefer a VT420 (and that's all I've used on the /44 so far). Still I've got them so that should I ever want, I can set the /44 up for a 'museum type' display. Zane

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HP 5451c terminal cable

by peterbrown10＠hotmail.com

Hi to all on the list, I've got an HP 5451c Fourier analyser that I'm trying to resurrect. The machine is basically an 'embeded' HP 1000 (2113B - I think but called a 54451 A/B processor in the literature) with a multi-channel digitizer, an oscilloscope display a system controller and a display terminal. The system allows time signals to be recorded and then viewed in the frequency domain (amongst many other functions) After pulling the parts of the system out of the store and trying to put it all together I find that I am minus the cable that connects the display terminal (an HP 2648A) to the system controller. The connector at the system controller end is marked 'teletype'. Is there anybody out there who has a spare cable? Does anyone have a pin-out for the correct cable? Does anyone know the correct part number for the cable? - I think that this may be 13232B but the literature I have is a little sparse Thanks in advance Peter Brown _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile/mobilehotmail

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Anyone need spare Printronix parts?

by cb＠mythtech.net

>2 to 5 cents (US) per pound as Motor Breakage. They are heavy. Ok... not enough to worry about. I'm not sure how much it weighs, but even at 500 lbs (which it isn't) and 5 cents per pound... that's only 25 bucks. The nearest public scrap yard that I am aware of is a good 25 minutes away, plus I would need to line up a van to cart it. I'm not sure the effort is worth a max of 25 dollars. Of course, knowing my speedyness on this, I can probably just take it with me the next time I go to one of my remote offices... there is a scapper 5 minutes down the road from them. Provided the line isn't too long, I can take it there (and if it is long, I can just take it there and dump it for free... that is what I usually do when I have to junk stuff there). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Anyone need spare Printronix parts?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

> Are these things worth anything at a scrap yard? 2 to 5 cents (US) per pound as Motor Breakage. They are heavy. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Anyone need spare Printronix parts?

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I'm scrapping a Printronix P-300 printer and thought >I'd check to see if anyone needed any parts before >it hits the scrapper. I've got one as well that is available for parts. Everything in mine should be good other than the power supply (was working fine when the power supply blew, a repair tech said the transformer in it is dead). I may also have some unopened ribbons for it. I probably also still have a few extra fuses for the power supply (I bought them when it first died, and when it blew the next set, I called in a repair guy to look at it) And mine is mounted on a rolling stand, and has a paper catch bin for the output. Are these things worth anything at a scrap yard? I've been planning to just flip mine into the dumpster one of these days (its in a back corner of an unused section of office space, so I just keep forgetting about it). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Anyone need spare Printronix parts?

by dan＠ekoan.com

Hello, I'm scrapping a Printronix P-300 printer and thought I'd check to see if anyone needed any parts before it hits the scrapper. Contact me off-list if you need any parts. Cheers, Dan www.decodesystems.com/wanted.html

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OOPS - NOT vt52, VT100

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Sorry, posting too early in the morning has it's pitfalls :\ I'm looking for a good condition VT100, NOT a VT52. *sigh* Sorry! Jay West

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Computing "in the field" (was RE: Osborne)

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

I was involved in a trial of resistivity surveying in Peru in 1979, but it was not very successful -- the desert sands were too dry for there to be much conductivity! We had better luck with a simple seismic unit (womp the ground with a sledge hammer and pick up the waves on a pair of geophones). I have a copy of AutoCad 1.4 (that's one point four, not fourteen) that was customized by John Walker for use on the Otrona Attache at the request of University of Chicago archaeologists working in the Middle East. It was successfully used for mapping and architectural drawings at Nippur, in Iraq (see http://www-oi.uchicago.edu/OI/AGS/About_AGS.html). After using the Osborne 1 in Peru, I got an Otrona 8:16 that I also used in Peru. I wrote a simple program for it to take raw theodolite data and generate a graphic of the architecture`we were mapping. I also used a commercial graphing program (Golden Graphics Plotware) to create a contour map based on pottery sherd frequencies that nicely revealed house patterns on a wind-deflated site (where all evidence of the cane-walled houses had been blown away by the wind). We used the computers mainly for writing and data base applications, though. Just having a portable computer for that was a great help, though. We owe a lot to Adam Osborne for opening up that market. BTW, the acquaintance that I got the AutoCAD 1.4 from, McGuire Gibson, and a Grad school classmate, Elizabeth Stone, have been lobbying/advising the US on where _not_ to bomb in Iraq in an attempt to minimize damage to historical and archaeological sites there. -----Original Message----- From: Ethan Dicks [mailto:erd_6502@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:05 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Computing "in the field" (was RE: Osborne) --- "Feldman, Robert" <Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com> wrote: > Ah, yes, I got my start in computers on with an Osborne 1... > I even took it to Peru for the archaeological projects I worked > on. Interesting. We took Kaypros (one 2, and later, a 10, IIRC) to the dig I worked on in College (1985, 1987, 1989). One of our guys tried to write a program to graph our results on-site, but those efforts didn't appear to be rewarding (we were using non- invasive survey techniques with a soil resistivity box that I had to keep repairing, and a proton magnetometer) -ethan

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Osborne

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Ah, yes, I got my start in computers on with an Osborne 1. $1795 _with_ software was such a deal at the time. The screen was small and the ~90KB the floppies held made for some interesting disk juggling (I wrote a MailMerge program so I could print my papers that were longer than ~15 pages -- 30KB -- with continuous page numbering), but it was a computer that I could afford. I even took it to Peru for the archaeological projects I worked on. The computers today may be faster and the programs can do more (often _too much_, IMHO), but the Osborne 1 met my needs quite well, thank you. Bob One obit: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/29921.html -----Original Message----- From: David Vohs [mailto:netsurfer_x1@fastmailbox.net] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:37 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Osborne Indeed, the man was quite a genius in his time. Sometimes it makes me wonder what the computer world (especially the portables market!) would be like if he had never joined the business. That's some food for thought, huh? > Sorry to hear that. Seems like quite a guy. > <bows head> > > Eric > > "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" wrote: > > > > Adam Osborne is dead. > > > > Osborne Books (sold, became Osborne McGraw Hill) > > Osborne Computer (when you brag too much about your NEXT product, you kill > > sales of the current one) > > Paperback Software (killed by Lotus for being a Visi-clone too similar to > > their Visi-clone) > -- David Vohs netsurfer_x1(a)fastmailbox.net -- http://www.fastmail.fm - And now for something completely different...

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Osborne

by cisin＠xenosoft.com

Adam Osborne is dead. Osborne Books (sold, became Osborne McGraw Hill) Osborne Computer (when you brag too much about your NEXT product, you kill sales of the current one) Paperback Software (killed by Lotus for being a Visi-clone too similar to their Visi-clone)

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Hamvention

by zmerch＠30below.com

Somewhat ontopic: Anyone else here planning on going to Hamvention 2003 in Dayton, OH? It's looking like I'm going to be able to go this year, and was wondering what's the best way for a coupla newbies to get around to best experience this, without spending all day running in circles... [[ And altho I won't have my truck, I'll have my wife's van -- which has big mirrors, in addition to a 1/2 ton truck frame, so 3 other adults & I will still have *lots* of storage for goodies... ;-) ]] Thanks, Roger "Merch" Merchberger

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CI trouble

by gschadow＠regenstrief.org

Hi, I have hooked up 2 VAX6k and 1 HSC90 and one MTI StingRay CI-SCSI adapter to my two star couplers all properly. Still I could never get any of my CI stuff to work. I tried under ULTRIX 4.5 just to ping through the SCS (?) IP physical/data-link layer but to no avail. Don't get any errors configuring the interface and pinging, just no host reachable. I may not have the CI nodes configured right, I may need to figure out how to plug the jumpers on the VAXBI backplane. Two additional observations: my HSC90 reports K.ci status 111 and the CI LINK module tells me it is not happy. Also, when I try to boot any of the VAXen from media that I don't think is really bootable, I get some funny error on the console: "Insufficient memory for CI" (even though I have full boat of memory 0.5 GB in each VAX.) Could everyone be unhappy about something strange in the CI system? Otherwise: - who knows how the CIBCA is configured with the jumpers? - who knows how best to debug CIBCA under Ultrix or VMS? - who knows how to set up (and debug!) IP over CI on Ultrix? (I do not dare ask about IP over CI on VMS, but appreciate if there are answers.) I also have a VAX6000 Diagnostics tape (TK50) which I should be using. I tried booting from it but I get this "insufficient memory for CI" error soon after the first few blocks are read from tape. I also didn't see much in the way of VMB.EXE on that tape. Anyone know what to do with a VAX6k diagnostics tape? Do I need to use it under VMS? (PS: if someone needs VAX6k diagnostics, I could help :-) regards, -Gunther

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HP-86B Monitor question

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"RHahm" <rhahm(a)nycap.rr.com> wrote: > I have acquired an HP-86B. Will this work with any older composite > monochrome monitor with an RCA video in jack or only the HP monitors which > seem to be hard to find? I haven't had my 86A out in a while, but when I did I was using an Amdek monitor with it, and I believe it was standard horizontal scan rate. -Frank McConnell

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DEC AUI Cable

by cb＠mythtech.net

What is DEC AUI Cable? ie: What is it used for, and what kind of wire is inside? I have 3 lengths of the stuff, and its stiff as hell. Feels like maybe multiple strands of co-ax or something. The jacket is labeled 4PR so that might make sense. It has 15 pin D-shell right angle connectors on it. I'm just curious about it. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Some more offerings from the 'Garage'

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

In my never ending attempts to find more space, I've started sorting thru the book vaults and culling out the duplicates. Following is this week's sortings. In general, any book listed will go for $7.50 delivered in CONUS unless otherwise noted. Where there are multiples this will be noted. If you are outside of 'states', please drop me a note to sort out postage. Available volumes: Digital Microcomputer Handbook 1977-78 (5 available) Digital PDP-11 Peripherals Handbook 1976 (3 available) Digital Microcomputer Products Handbook 1985 Digital Logic Handbook 1970 Digital Programming Languages 1970 V2 Digital Labratory Computer Handbook 1971 First Called, First Served! As-Is, where is! All are readable and appear complete, but remember they are old. More later; -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw

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"tumble" TIFF/JPEG to PDF converter

by eric-nospam-117＠brouhaha.com

There's finally an early release of "tumble", my GPL'd TIFF/JPEG to PDF converter: http://tumble.brouhaha.com/ There's a lot of work yet to be done, but enough of the basic functionality is there that it is useful for simple things. Two few examples of DEC Field Maintenance Print Sets for the VT52 and VT78 are available[*] at http://www.brouhaha.com/~eric/retrocomputing/dec/doc/mp/ These files show the use of Tumble to produce PDF files from scanned images and create PDF bookmarks (aka outline) using a control file. The control file syntax is not yet documented, as it is undergoing change, but that provides an idea of what it can do. Eric [*] temporarily - they'll soon appear in a more appropriate place

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ampex 8k by 16 bit core memory

by ncsiusa＠stny.rr.com

Is there any place to buy Ampex core memory part number 3276194-01...jim shank http://server28.hypermart.net/ncsiusa

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"tumble" TIFF/JPEG to PDF converter

by eric-nospam-638＠brouhaha.com

There's finally an early release of "tumble", my GPL'd TIFF/JPEG to PDF converter: http://tumble.brouhaha.com/ There's a lot of work yet to be done, but enough of the basic functionality is there that it is useful for simple things. Two few examples of DEC Field Maintenance Print Sets for the VT52 and VT78 are available[*] at http://www.brouhaha.com/~eric/retrocomputing/dec/doc/mp/ These files show the use of Tumble to produce PDF files from scanned images and create PDF bookmarks (aka outline) using a control file. The control file syntax is not yet documented, as it is undergoing change, but that provides an idea of what it can do. Eric [*] temporarily - they'll soon appear in a more appropriate place

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DEC 7000 (AXP) startup

by gunther＠aurora.regenstrief.org

Hi, thanks to Sridhar's kind encouragement, I turned on my new DEC 7000. I just used my special VAX6000 receptacle (that puts 220 V 2 phases on a 3-phase receptacle in just the right way for the VAX6000 to work.) I had to change the plug from a 30A to a 20A plug which was straight forward (almost same shape and dimensions). Plugged it in and turned it on and it would right work. I come to like this machine. A bit bulky, very modern looking. That blower fan is very impressive and it's humming very cool. Not so squeeky as the VAX6000 and not so blarringly loud as the 11/780. As usual, I had a bit of wobbling to do on the XMI bus to get all cards tested fine and that works now. This one has two StorageWorks boxes in its rack and the KZMSA cards. I loaded it with disks etc and attempted to boot from them. Turns out that this machine once ran under OSF/1 as all the disk had OSF/1 bootblocks on them. But unfortunately none of the disks I had left were actually bootable (missing osf_boot or causing some panic. So, my question is, where can I get a UNIX system for this machine? Are there any copies of OSF (bootables) around? How about DEC-UNIX? NetBSD/Alpha (or FreeBSD for that matter) won't run until we have fixed lack of an XMI bus driver. Are there any port-alpha people who are working on this XMI issue? (On the port-vax side it depends mainly on Ragge and the very few folks with VAX6000s to do that.) I tried the KZMSA board out in the VAX6000 just to see if this really doesn't work. Indeed the card was not detected right (shows up with ?????? in the SHOW CONFIGURATION). Is there really nothing one could do to get that to work on VAX6000? Would it work in a VAX7000? thanks, -Gunther

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Tape media

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> so I sorted through my last weekend's bait, hooked up my new HSZ40 > (with 50 GB in 4 StorageWorks boxes plus all sorts of tape drives, > TSZ07, TLZ07, TZ68, and ~88) to my PC for FreeBSD. It's so much > fun to read a 9-track reel from a FreeBSD PC (just too bad it doesn't > have a transparent top cover to show off the reels). > > I have bulk-erased a bunch of TK50 tapes in the hopes that they > would work as DLT III and IV tapes as well, but these drives > still went into write-protect mode. Does anyone here know details > about the DLT media? I mean it is a well-known fact (and I proved > it to myself many times) that CompacTape I works just fine as > CompacTape II. So why not as III and IV? Is it really the tape > or might it be some notches on the cassette that are used to > code the kind of tape? > > The problem is I didn't get any tape media for my nice DLT tape drives > and this stuff is so darn expensive if bought new. Any ideas? I really hope you didn't wreck that TZ86 and TZ88, thankfully these are the DEC drives and I think they might be more forgiving than something like a DLT2000 or DLT4000 drive. IIRC, the TZ86 is capable of reading TK50 and TK70 tapes. There is a drastic difference between TK50/70 and DLT III & IV media! I don't remember the specifics on the differences, part of it is that it writes in a different manner, and part is that the tape is different. Zane

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Strange/Wonderful Microchannel Vid - Aud caputre card

by jpl15＠panix.com

I have here what looks like a Microchannel Video/Audio subsystem. It has a Lucent logo on the breakout box. It is a full-length card and 3/4 length daughter card full of PLD and ASICS and other fat SMD chips. There is a header and 20-way shielded ribbon cable. The breakout box has two 1/8" jacks marked LEFT - MICROPHONE - RIGHT and beneath that a slide switch for mono/stereo. Then two yellow RCAs marked 2 - VIDEO - 1 Beneath that are 8 RCAs in two groups, AUDIO 1 and 2, LEFT/RIGHT, INPUT/OUTPUT. On the boards themselves, the main board is marked 'PCI ENCODER VER4' in solder mask - one big visble chip has: "LSI" logo; L64745QC-30 JPEG CODER WK82164P NNG 9540 6A13COPBFAA Another similar chip nearby says "DCT PROCESSOR" Obviously this is a Video / Audio capture subsystem of some kind. It also is obviously an advanced prototype - the breakout box is a standard molded plastic 'project box' with 'Brother P-Touch' type lables on it. Anyway, rather than put it on eBay (undoubtedly finding out that I have a priceless artefact that will ensure my happy and contented retirement) I thought I'd just see if anybody here a.) recognizes it and b.) wants it... Cheers John PS: No, I haven't posted pix yet. I s'pose I could be coerced, tho....

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FSOT: Sharp CE-126P printer and Cassette interface.

by bellbiz＠bigpond.net.au

I am looking to purchase ten of these units. Your one will bring it down to 9. My offer to you is USD75.00 and I can pay you by Visa Credit Card; PayPal or do a bank TT direct into your nominated bank account. My name is Roger Bell contact me at bell77(a)bigpond.net.au

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Look at this -

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>2:28 p.m. -- Secret Service agents shove Reagan into the limousine while >other agents, with the aide of police, overcome the suspected assailant, >later identified as John W. Hinckley Jr. 25, of Evergreen, Colo. Minor piece of trivia... that year there was a TV show in its first season entitled "Greatest American Hero"... the hero's name was Hinckley. In the second airing of the opening episode, the name was covered over by a loud noise, like a plane taking off. Later in the season, his name was officially changed to Hanley... Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | email: mbg at world.std.com | | | | | "this space | (s/ at /@/) | | unavoidably left blank" | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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WANTED - VT52

by jwest＠kwcorp.com

Greetings; In my endeavor to get my 11/44 totally up and running... I'd like to get a good condition VT52 terminal for the console. I have 3 VT52's but they are all in truely horrible shape, especially cosmetically. Does anyone have a spare VT52 in good condition that they would be willing to sell or trade for? Jay West

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