- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

Why did Rockwell make a KIM-1 manual? See ebay:

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

A Rockwell KIM-1 manual: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2739054837&category=1247 What gives?

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Reading PDP-8 paper tapes

by aek＠spies.com

we need to take a reader of some description into their warehouse along with a portable PC. -- I should be able to send this to you when it gets here. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2538522718

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Interesting Site...

by jpl15＠panix.com

A website (cited on Memepool) about the development of various open-source OSes for 8-bitters. http://www.dunkels.com/adam/contiki/ Perhaps it has been discussed here before; I don't remember it, though. And, from France - one for Intellivision... http://intyos.free.fr/index.php Chz Jhn

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Torch haul pictures...

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

>> OK, got a few captioned pictures of the Torch stuff up for those > > What's in the Cifer manuals, Jules? They're all Uniplus system III manuals. cheers Jules ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

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DEC Dishwasher-size racks anyone ?

by grg2＠attbi.com

I have two DEC waist-high racks available. They are the super-sturdy kind that can hold a pair of RL-O2s and a PDP11/34 with no problem. They have the side modesty panels, tops I *might* have around but no guarantee. Best offer I get in 48 hrs gets one or both. I can ship them by ltl truck freight, but prefer pickup in Mpls, MN. Picture of one at alt.binaries.pictures.radio

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Update on basement sale

by ian_primus＠yahoo.com

If you contacted me about something in the basement sale I posted earlier, and I haven't responded, I must apologize. My email has been acting up a little, and I have been flooded with spam. Also, I will need a little time to get everything straightened out and ready to go before I can quote shipping prices or get stuff shipped out. Since I am in the middle of reorganizing the basement/workshop, everything is everywhere, and I need to continue sorting and weeding out so I have more room to work. Also, I should have a lot more stuff to offer soon. Once again, sorry for the delay, bear with me, and I'll definitely be able to get stuff to people, it just may take a few more days to get straightened out. Also, while cleaning tonight, I found some other things Original IBM AT motherboard, complete with stacked RAM chips. Untested. $2 + shipping Original IBM AT power supply. Untested. $2 + shipping Apple IIe(enhanced) motherboard. Works. $2 + shipping XT clone power supply. Untested. $2 + shipping Macintosh 1.44 meg Manual inject floppy drives. Cleaned, lubricated and tested. $4 + shipping SCSI CD-ROM reader. 2x (I think). Works. $4 + shipping Once again, prices are just suggestions, feel free to make an offer. I'll post another, more complete list at the end of the week. I still have more stuff to wade through. Ian Primus ian_primus(a)yahoo.com

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DSM (digital standard MUMPS)

by jwillis＠coherent-logic.com

Is it still possible to find DSM? Looking to learn the MUMPS language, preferably on one of my VMS machines.

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DSM (digital standard MUMPS)

by jwillis＠coherent-logic.com

Is it still possible to find DSM? Looking to learn the MUMPS language, preferably on one of my VMS machines.

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Those were the days!

by vfurfaro＠kva.com

Would be nice to go back to those days!! How are you Al? What are you up to these days? Still in computers in NY? I stumbled across the message you posted (below) while doing some research on Michael Daddio (remember the idiot that ran Corvus), and figured I'd drop you a line to say hi. Hope all's well with you. Vinny ************************ Vincent Furfaro President KVA Communications www.kva.com <http://www.kva.com/> 888-KVA-3366 vfurfaro(a)kva.com <mailto:vfurfaro@kva.com> ************************ > From: "Steven N. Hirsch" <shirsch(a)adelphia.net> > Subject: Any Corvus collectors out there? > > Hi, > > I'm new to this list and wondering how many Corvus > collectors are out there. Hi, I'm not exactly a Corvus collector, but I used to work for Lawrence S. Epstein Associates, LTD., and we were the East Coast Distributor for Corvus Equipment for quite awhile... And I have a couple of drives and various odds and ends taking up space in a closet... I have some IBM XT Omninet Adapters, I think a couple of older Apple II adapters, Some Mirror Boards, an "H" series drive, and an old Apple II only OmniDrive. I also have manuals and software, maybe even a constellation adapter too.. Those were the days... When a 70mb HDD sold for $8000.00... :) Al

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DECserver 200 Hardware Manual/Owner's Guide

by bbradfo1＠ford.com

Hi Mike, Wanted to let you know, I received the manual in yesterday's mail. Thank you. Sorry I had to send the thanks via this email address, I was running out of space and I clicked one too many times. Thanks again, Barry

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RARE Zenith Inteq 248 PC Tempest Shielding

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> I didn't say it was rare. The seller did. I just thought it unusual. > But perhaps not $299.00 unusual. I ran into some Z248's > at NTC San Diego, and at the DRMO here in Norfolk, but I > hadn't ever seen one of the Tempest Shielded ones yet. Ditto. I had to deal with them at three different commands. None of them were Tempest shielded..... I take that back, I think one was. The only Tempest PC clone equipment that I really had any dealings with were ancient IBM PC's with dual 5Mb IOMEGA removable media drives. Zane

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Help identifying Mostek machine

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

Hello all, I've come into possession of a Mostek computer (I'm pretty sure it's a computer anyway) with a pair of 8" half height floppy drives (Shugart 860s) and three cards. The cards are roughly 6x4 inches with a 56 finger edge connector on one of the long ends and various connectors on the opposite end (I'm not familiar with these). They are labeled MDX-FLP2 (plugged into the drives - obviously a floppy controller), MDX-SIO (almost certainly a serial IO card) and MDX-CPU3. The last card is the processor card. The main chip appears to be a MOSTEK Z-80 clone which is labeled MK3801N-4, Z80-STI AND ENG. PROTO. There are 8 4564s for 64K RAM on the card along with what are either connectors for serial and/or parallel ports. The whole box is about the size of a typical rack-mount machine with a plastic case around it. Most parts are tagged as Mostek and most date codes are from the middle of 1982. Of course it came without software or documentation. Is anyone familiar with this machine? Does anyone have a boot disk, other software or documentation for it? Thanks! Erik Klein www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum The Vintage Computer Forum

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Fwd: tandy 1000 EX rescue

by jfoust＠threedee.com

>From: Hbmjchap(a)aol.com >Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 20:01:31 EDT >Subject: tandy 1000 EX >To: jfoust(a)threedee.com > >I have a Tandy 1000 EX with 256 K memory in perfect working order. It includes a full color monitor, a daisy wheel printer, the original software, plus the games Kings Quest III and IV. Would you be interested in taking this off of my hands? If so, please e-mail me at schapman711(a)hotmail.com and we can talk terms. Thank you, I look forward to your reply. > >Sincerely, > >Steve Chapman

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Looking for TAM CD's

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

I have three of the original cd's that came with the Apple TAM 20th Anniversary computer and need a copy of the others. I have the OS8 CD, Music Demo CD, and the Tour CD. I believe there were 7 or 8 in the complete set that shipped with the TAM. Can someone make a copy of the missing CD's and I will pay you for them? Thanks in advance.

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Are 7438s in DEC interfaces special?

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

I need to lay hands on at least one 7438 to stick into my new (to me) Emulex QD21 to implement the "22-Bit Addressing Kit"... there's a single socket by the fingers, U49, that accepts the 7438, and a switch to throw. I can pick up a 7438 for all of $0.28 at B.G. Micro, but the question is are they hand-picked in any way? If so, what would I have to construct to replicate the selection process. Thanks, -ethan

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New finds: enough Torch stuff to sink a battleship

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi Pete, >> Torch Z80 disc pack > Unusual. Production ones were brown. Agreed on the Z80 disk pack - doesn't appear to have ever had anything other than drives and a cable in it. The PSU is still intact, so it'd be complete again with the addition of drives (which I now have plenty of spares of!). No idea why it's grey rather than brown, except that so are the XXX 'prototype' and the 725 machine. >> Two Torch Computers 68000 boards. > Not CP/M, that was the board below. These would run a Unix derivative, I think. Fair call. One's an 'Atlas' board, which is what the 725 machine also has in it. The other is a "Torch 68000 board" and seems to date from a year earlier (1983 rather than 1984). the earlier board has an 8MHz 68k, the Atlas board a 10MHz - but both have CCCP 1.02 ROMs so I expect they behave identically, with one just being slower than the other. > CPN, by the way, isn't CP/M. It looks and feels similar, and *some* > CP/M software is compatible, but not all -- the memory map is different. given that the 68k boards have CCCP ROMs too I'm not surprised :) >> Four Xebec boards with a 50 pin connector, 3x 20 pin connectors and single >> 34-way edge connector. Single Xebec board with a 50 pin connector, 2x 20 pin >> connectors and single 34-way edge connector. > > SASI interfaces to ST412-compatible drives. I found the manuals to these (and all the other interface boards that I have I believe) - it seems the cards with the three 20-pin connectors on have SCSI interfaces. The C520 machine meanwhile has a Torch SASI controller in it and one of the "2 connector" Xebec boards is plugged into that - so unless a SASI controller can drive a SCSI device, the "2 connector" Xebec boards have a SASI interface. >> CP/N hard disk utilities (single floppy, hand-written label) >> Torch hard disk utilities (single floppy, again just hand-written label) > >Hmm... Could I get a copy of those? I think I have the correct MCP ROM > somewhere here. sure, I'm a bit snowed under at the moment so it might not be for a few weeks - plus I need to find a good way of copying the disks unless my PC's controller will read them. I should have spare Torch ROM sets for everything so I can always copy the ROM if I can find a good way of doing it (I've got that EPROM programmer for the Apple 2 but getting data onto and off the machine needs figuring out). worst-case there'll be a way of me reading the data via a BBC and mailing it to you I suppose! >> Acorn Technical Manual - dated 1979, for a 6502-based SBC. Display is quoted in >> the manual as being 9 digits with the leftmost one unused, which may identify >> the machine. Possibly a System 1-4 ?? > > No, it wasn't a System device. That's the original Acorn SBC, I think. > I've got the matching User's Manual. It sounds like one of these: http://www.machine-room.org/computers/6360/technical.html Of course the website info may be innacurate; and piecing together information about exactly what Acorn produced in the early days is proving hard - what little data there seems to be on the web is generally labelled with disclaimers as to accuracy! :-) I've since found I have manuals for some of the 'other' cards that seemed to be available (which I believe worked with the later 'system' machines): o Laboratory Interface Manual o Visual Display Unit Interface Board technical manual (issue 1, dated 1979), also mentions the same teletext decoder as used in the BBC so looks like Acorn were messing around with that even then. o Acorn 32K DRAM technical manual (issue 3, 1982) - looks to be designed for the 'system' machines or the Atom. o Acorn Extension Memory Board manual (issue 3, 1980) - an 8KB board o PROM Programmer Board manual (Issue 2, 1981) o VIA Board (Issue 1, 1980) o Acorn Analogue Interface technical manual (Issue 1, 1980) Looking at the list, you can see where the BBC had its origins :) >> Acorn 6809 users manual - dated 1980, this looks to be for a SBC a > Mine has a fold-out circuit diagram inside the back cover. rats, I'm missing that unless it's been tucked away inside something else. >> Atom Disc Pack construction notes, schematics etc. (anyone got a >> dump of the ROM to go with this?) > > Yes :-) Hmm, I may have to ask you nicely for a copy of that sometime and build one of these to go with my Atom... I think everything else I need is covered in the manual (my Atom's had the memory expansion and BASIC upgrade anyway so it's not a 'pure' original) [ BBC FITs] > Yes, I've got one -- and every Beeb I've ever repaired has passed the > FIT. You need the software for it; I think the basic A version is > printed in the manual but there's a B version as well (is that also in > the manual? I've got one, but not to hand). What I have is a copy of a confidential Acorn pre-release manual for the FIT and the PET which makes it a little unique :) But yes, it has listings for the A and B machines. It wouldn't surprise me if copies of the associated manuals are still at the house where I got all this from; stuff from all kinds of machines was just *everywhere* so there's likely a lot that was missed... cheers, Jules ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

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New finds: enough Torch stuff to sink a battleship

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Tony, an all-in-one email... > OK, in the production XXX, the hard and floppy drives were connected to > an OMTI board, and thence to the SCSI bus. Your unit is consistent with this Yep, that's exactly what I have. The case may or may not be a stock part. The XXX case itself looks to be from something else for sure though - there are even two spare half-height drive bays inside. The XXX I have is a single board called a 'Stickleback' with various connectors in it - including BT in/out and an Ethernet port (none of these are actually wired to the back of the case though). There's also markings on the board for a VME bus connection, but no socket or associated circuitry. I'm "missing" two ICs: IC139 is just a socket for a 48 pin IC beneath which is written "WYN8526(ET)". IC140 next to this is a 24 pin socket and is also empty. Maybe something to do with the ethernet circuitry? The connector's nearby. (ET = 'Ethernet Transciever" ?? :) > The production machines have a 8 pin DIN for video. OK, I do have that but it's labelled RGB; there's also the hole for a socket labelled 'video' - but as the case is a hack who knows... > Be careful. This sounds like the case from something else. Production > XXXs have 2 DB25 sockets, and both are RS232 ports (one actually carries > 2 sets of RS232 signals, for a total of 3 serial ports). There is no > parallel port on the production machines.... My Stickleback board is marked as having RS432 and X.25, both on 25 pin ports. The RS432 port is wired through to the parallel port on the back of the case, and the X.25 port is wired through to the RS432 port on the back of the case :-) > Production machines don't have a conventional power switch. The PSU is > controlled by a relay. There's a touch-sensitive contact on the front of > the box that turns the PSU on when touched. Except on mine :-) There's a battery hanging loose inside the case, but nothing resembling touch contacts; it appears that's all been bypassed on this machine and the power switch works conventionally. I wonder what the correct procedure of shutting it down safely is... (hopefully one of the various stock Unix methods will work) [Torch "Hard Disc"] > This sounds a bit BBC-micro like!. There is a Torch SCSI hard disk unit > for the beeb -- it's supposed to be rather rare. The one I've seen is a > plinth to fit under the nonitor contianing the SCSI interface (connectes > to the Beeb 1MHz bus) + hard disk and also a floppy drive (connects to the > normal Beeb disk controller). Maybe you have much the same unit built > into a case with the Beeb mainboard and monitor. OK, been inside now - it is a BBC, with a Torch Z80 coprocessor. Torch SASI interface hooked up to the BBC's 1MHz bus, with a Xebec interface hanging off that which talks to the hard drive. Integral display is a Microvitec (probably a Cub). The case appears to be production quality but is a very oddball design (as is the seperate PSU). See seperate post for link to pics if you can motivate yourself to look at some grahpics :-} The keyboard's an ineresting custom design with about a million keys :-) Half of these seem to be labelled with various wordprocessing functions. I since believe I'm missing a modem from it, but one of the spares I have will fit - not sure where it hooks up to the rest of the system though. [ Torch-725 ] > The QuadX I have is in the same case (basically) as a production XXX. But > the mainboard is a singla 6U VME card, and there's a little 3 slot (I > think) VME cardcage in the bottom slice. Much the same PSU as Hmmm... ok, what I have in that 725 is another BBC, a 68k Torch Atlas board, Torch SCSI interface, and a Xebec controller talking to the full-height drive. I need to go poke around in the documentation sometime. And I'll have to hassle the guy I got these from about the rack-mount QX he has if this is in fact something different :) Information on what exactly a Torch Unicorn was would be useful, to be honest. Some people seem to think it was the name of a complete machine, whilst others think it was just the name for the range of Torch cards available for the BBC. Just idly wondering if the 725 was a prototype Unicorn or something; I don't have details of exactly what machines Torch made. > This does not sound like a XXXX.... I do have a spare hard disk labelled as Quad X, those tape drives and controller boards, a surplus Torch-stock PSU, complete ROM set, and the complete schematics for the QX VME card. I'll just go build myself one... ;-) >> Triple X PSU (or so I was told; not having a 'genuine' Triple X I don't >> know!) > > Can you describe it? I've got a couple of XXXs (including a nicely > expanded one with a Quinring on top), and quite a pile of spares... Duh! I just picked it up; I'd only noticed the Farnell label before. It actually says "Triple X 100W" on the side :) It's not the same as the power supply in my "prototype" XXX which is a 150W unit, same as the one in the big "Hard Disc" machine. > In theory the XXX can support a tape drive on the SCSI bus, but I've > never managed to get it to work... I'll keep an eye out when I go through the docs I have. I noticed on the previous owner's invoices for the XXX that I now have that he recieved it with a tape drive. Maybe there'll be some info amongst everything that says how it hooks up. The two tape drives I got were from XXX machines so I can grab model numbers / interface details from those too. >> Seven issue 3 Torch manta boards, > These are used in XXX and XXXX machines if you have a real SCSI hard > drive (as opposed to an ST506 one on an OMTI board). gotcha. I can't imagine I can make use of seven of them, unless driving them is easy enough that I can use them in other systems... I've got the docs for the boards but I don't know how detailed they are yet. >> Two Torch key disks (with different serial numbers). > You may not have realised it yet, but the Torch OS is keyed to the serial > number of the (uncopyable) Key disk. If you have to re-install the OS, or > if the NiCd goes flat, or... you need the right key disk... uh-oh :-) I have two, for machines with two different serial numbers. Hopefully one works with the 'prototype' system I have (or, if it is a prototype, they disabled this feature :-) cheers Jules ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

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new finds :-)

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Visted one of my favorite scrounging places today and found a Otrona Attache and a Soroc Terminal (1802 CPU :-) :-) Also got two shugart 851 8" floppy drives, an IC Master (1988) a stack of DRI CPM manuals, a DEC PDP-8 handbook and a notebook full of Mostek computer board manuals. Oh and an AIM-65 User's Guide. Does anyone have disks for the Otrona? :-) Joe

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VME and CAMAC reading list?

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

I'm looking at a new job; one of the requirements is a familiarity with VME and CAMAC (it's how they mount their data aquisition hardware). I used to work with Mizar-brand VME cards long ago, so I'm not a complete novice, but I think I ought to do some brushing up before being subjected to the techie gauntlet. Googling for "VME and CAMAC" turns up a lot of hits. :-) Can anyone make suggestions on some good overview texts? Web preferred, but if I have to, I can resort to the local Uni library. At some point, I'll have to know how to operate as well as repair the equipment, but I'll be happy just to be able to participate in a discussion of the hardware without looking like a goob in the interview. Thanks for any help narrowing down the search. -ethan

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RARE Zenith Inteq 248 PC Tempest Shielding

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Tempest shielded Zeniths aren't all that rare. The US Goverenment made a HUGE purchase of Zenith computers back in the mid '80s and many of them ended up being shielded for use in various goverenment agencies. I used to see pallet loads of shielded Zeniths and even a hand-full of shielded MacIntoshes at one of the scrap places that I frequent. Joe At 08:40 AM 6/27/03 -0400, you wrote: >Here's one that seems unusual > > >RARE Zenith Inteq 248 PC Tempest Shielding > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2738292042

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RARE Zenith Inteq 248 PC Tempest Shielding

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

Here's one that seems unusual RARE Zenith Inteq 248 PC Tempest Shielding http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2738292042

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Emulex resources?

by fm.arnold＠gmx.net

>From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> >Subject: Emulex resources? > >I've been to Al's repository on spies.com and found a few documents, >but I'm looking for some info on a variety of Emulex disk controllers. >The level of detail I'm at is what controllers support which drives >and emulate which DEC interfaces... > >I.e. - I have an SC21 on the way that emulates an RH11/RH70 and lets me >talk to a variety of SMD drives as if they were RM02/RM03/RM05/RM80 >drives. I also have a QD34 that was an entire Pound that I'd like to >press into service, but I have no cables... I was contemplating removing >the I/O transition board and fabricating a "standard" A&B cable connector >interface (60 pin/multi-26-pin). > >I'm also curious to get a reference to other controllers in case I >see them float by... most of the ones for sale lack specifics due to >seller ignorance. Hi, I have original Emulex manuals for CS09 (16 line-comm. controller) and DM01 (ST506-disk (MSCP) and SA450 floppy) controller both for the Qbus. If this isn't available yet, I can make copies or lend the manuals to someone who puts this to the web. Other doc available: Codar 170 time of day clock/watchdog module for Q-bus, DSD 880 Floppy/harddrive combination for Q-bus and Unibus, Able computer systems, Qniverter, Qbus to unibus adapter, several National semiconductor Qbus memory card for Q-bus. Looking myself for doc's and/or jumper-settings for: - Excelan exos 203 quad Q-bus controller, (probably ethernet??) - Chrislin Industries CI-1123+ dual Memory-board - SMS sientific micro systems Disc-adapter assy nr 0003770-0001, connects via 40 pole flatcable to a formatter 0003904-0001 that connects to several 8" discs- (eg Quantum Q2000) and floppy drives Shugart SA800 - Kaiser & Dr. Damm GmbH, MOT11-D1 ser. line controller with local MC6809, aperantley a german made module, but maybe also sold worldwide....? Frank

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VAX 11/725 anyone?

by dbetz＠xlisper.mv.com

A guy I went to college with has a VAX 11/725 he's about to trash. Is anyone interested? I think it is located near DC. He says it won't boot but I don't know anything else. I can try to find out if anyone is interested.

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Looking for schematics for DEC M702 and M720 modules

by aek＠spies.com

*Now* I need to find a spec sheet for an SN7460 and see what its propogation delay is. --- The 1971 TI Integrated Circuits Catalog is now up at www.spies.com/aek/pdf/ti/_dataBooks/1971_TI_IntegratedCircuits The 7460 is on page 6-044

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Early RT-11 Versions

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> Are there disk images of early versions of RT-11 available > for use with the SimH simulator? Like V02C and V03B. (I > think V03B was the last release of V3.) They exist, but they aren't available. There are holes in what is known to still exist. I'm not aware of any copies of V1 (was there even a V1?). I know that copies of both versions you mention are known to exist. Zane

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Early RT-11 Versions

by djenner＠earthlink.net

Are there disk images of early versions of RT-11 available for use with the SimH simulator? Like V02C and V03B. (I think V03B was the last release of V3.) Thanks, Dave -- David C. Jenner djenner(a)earthlink.net

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New Finds: Torch software / docs

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi again, Here's the documentation and software haul that goes with the Torch hardware I picked up earlier. The docs are probably about as complete as possible - and enormous! Copying them is probably a little unrealistic; there's probably a good 30,000 pages there - but If anyone collecting Torch hardware needs anything looking up just shout! cheers Jules Software 5.25" disks. Single boxed copy of the Triple X System V.2 issue 2 disk set - another 30 or so disks. CP/N hard disk utilities (single floppy, hand-written label) Torch hard disk utilities (single floppy, again just hand-written label) Two Torch key disks (with different serial numbers). Floppy with a Torch label on saying "spell binder" - no idea! Floppy labelled as: "Torch CP/N Unix/68k CP/N Support tune.com, unix.com, icheck.com etc." Floppy hand-labelled as "MOSF4.11 selecta M/3.5 disks". Core documentation -------------------- Unisoft Uniplus System III manual set - 3 volumes Unisoft Uniplus System V manual set - 8 volumes Triple X Administrators manual Triple X Handbook Triple X Users manual (section 1) Triple X Users manual (sections 2-6) Triple X Programming manual Triple X Inside System V manual Triple X Caretaker manual Triple X Telecomms Manager manual Triple X Software catalogue Triple X Gold Card newsletters 1-5 Torch Computers User Guide Torch Computers ZEP 100 User Guide Torch Computers Unix Guide Torch Computers Unicomm User Guide Torch Computers Programmers Guide Quad X Handbook Quad X Janitor Quad X Inside System V Quad X Opentop Programming Torch-725 Hardware Reference Manual (photocopied, in a Torch binder with added schematics, notes etc.) Torch X Window System Handbook Torch X Toolkit manual ASM68 Language Manual for UniPlus+ Introduction to Issue 2.0 of System V.2 (stapled together, no binder) System V.2 - Issue 2.0 List of Files Torch-related Oddities ------------------------------- Manual for the Torch Manta board Binder labelled as "All the stuff Torch didn't tell you!" - seems to be a C programming guide. Binder labelled as "Unix user guide" - notes on the basics, VI, shells etc. Binder for the VME320QX board (a Quad X on a VME bus card) with the following sections: Quad X spec / Quad X board manual / Openchip spec / Openchip programming manual / Quad X circuit diagram / Quad X parts list revisions / manufacturing notes / board layout 3rd party documentation set: two ring binders with sections labelled as "XXX manuals" and sections as follows: System V.0 issue 1.3 / Unix 5.2 product description / Unix V.2 list of files / XXX install / despatch notes (original shipping invoices!) / additional section 1 pages / hints / printing / B-net / NFS / multiuser / tape streamer / DOS disc utilities / 80MB disk drive / Versaterm 100 / Fortran F77 ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

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IBM 5250 Emulation Adaptor

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

Free for postage: 1 IBM 5250 Emulation Adaptor ISA #82G7060 1 HP SCSI Adaptor ISA (for Scanjet?) #C1752-66500 I found these half-length ISA cards in the trash on the way to work today & have no need for them. Each is in a zip-lock bag and looks OK, but is untested. Postage would be about $2.00 each. Robert A. Feldman robert_feldman(a)jdedwards.com

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Fwd: computer rescue: Sun 68K in Madison, WI

by jfoust＠threedee.com

>From: "Pentinmaki, Isaac" <Isaac.Pentinmaki(a)KRAFT.COM> >To: "'jfoust(a)threedee.com'" <jfoust(a)threedee.com> >Subject: computer rescue >Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:48:42 -0500 > >How old are you looking for ? >I have an old Sun 68k that I've been trying to get motivated to recycle. The >computer has been off so long the boot prom has to be reset from the bios. >It's about the speed of a fast 386 and the monitor is very heavy. > >Isaac Pentinmaki >Glythor Inc. Consultant @ Kraft >608 285 4592

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PDP-8 Memory config

by ggs＠shiresoft.com

Hi, I have a couple of Dataram DR-118 core boards for a PDP-8 (Omnibus). Anyone have any information on this (specifically how to jumper it for the proper addresses). I *think* it's a 16kx12 but I'm not certain. Thanks. -- TTFN - Guy

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up 200 software

by kcoin＠sasktel.net

hello there. i understand you might have a copy of the software for the up200. i just acquired one and need the software please. also if you have any idea about the cable from the unit to the computer it would be greatly appreciated. thank you in advance martin.....

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Looking for an old DUKEDOM game listing

by caryo＠yahoo.com

Hi Erik, My name is Cary Orange and I'm searching for the BASIC listing of an old computer game called DUKEDOM. I used to play this game many years ago when I owned a TRS-80 Model I computer. I'd like to find the game and port it to the PalmOS platform in an effort to revive the game. Based on input I've received from one of the game's contributors I think it might be printed in the February, 1980 issue of Creative Computing magazine (1980, Volume 6, Number 2). If not to inconvenient would you mind verifying this BASIC listing in your archived issue of the magazine? I'd really be interested in getting a hard/soft copy of the program listing to this game. Many Thanks! Sincerely, Cary Orange caryo(a)yahoo.com

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ABLE COMPUTER # 10370-1

by fm.arnold＠gmx.net

Hi, An Able-computer controller is offered on Ebay http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2737483185&category=1247 If I remember well, this could be a combined disc/tape-controller... does anyone have more details? Is the rather high price justified by some special features? Thanks, Frank

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Realistic MPA-35 owners manual

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

Radio shack dot com or whatever they a calling themself this week - has old and new owners manuals on thier web site. i was surprised to find the manual for thier 8 track recorder and the r2r they sold long ago. Bill Message: 16 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 07:48:52 -0700 From: Krome Mail <kromemail(a)shaw.ca> Subject: Realistic MPA-35 owners manual To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Hi Chris, If you still have an owner's manual for the Realistic MPA-35 I would sure appreciate a copy. Thank you. T. Moore --__--__--

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New Finds: AIM-65 and Acorn documents

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi, Another one for the sake of the archives more than anything - a few more non-Torch docs that turned up amongst my haul of Torch stuff, some of which are likely quite (very?) rare... Acorn Stuff --------------- Acorn Econet system user guide Acorn Atom user manual Acorn Basic manual (4K integer Basic; manual is dated 28/7/1980) Acorn Technical Manual - dated 1979, for a 6502-based SBC. Display is quoted in the manual as being 9 digits with the leftmost one unused, which may identify the machine. Possibly a System 1-4 ?? Acorn 6809 users manual - dated 1980, this looks to be for a SBC a little more 'modern' than the one above. There are fragments of schematics in the manual, plus an overview of the board layout, construction guide, monitor ROM listing etc. but no complete schematic. A binder which looks to have been Acorn internal. Has the following A4 sections: Acorn DOS manual Acorn 6502 ADE Econet v1 technical manual Econet v1 user manual Econet v2 user manual Econet harddrive mods (schematics and notes) Econet specification document (marked as provisional) Atom Disc Pack construction notes, schematics etc. (anyone got a dump of the ROM to go with this?) Atom "Disatom Super ROM" specifications doc - whatever one of those is! Atom Toolkit and Monitor ROM manual, by a P. T. Blenkinsop (written beneath it says "with apologies to M Bates and Steve Wozniak" :) Acorn System 5 Handbook Acorn documentation - more official-looking stuff: BBC OS v1 spec, BBC disc interface details, Document called "A redefinable telesoftware format" - was that what went on to become prestel in the UK? Internal document announcing a BASIC interpreter being ready for the systems 3/4/5/6/8. I wonder what the systems 6 and 8 were? Far as I know only 1-5 existed in the wild, followed by the Atom and the BBC - with the Proton evolving into what became the BBC. Maybe 6 was the Atom - but the document goes on to specifically mention the BBC as a seperate case, so that wasn't a System 8... and where did 7 go? Curious! :) BBC micro speech system user guide. Internal doc detailing Acorn DOS entry points for the system 3, 4 and Atom. "Operating Instructions for the Progressive Establishment Testing System for the BBC Microcomputer". Blimey. Documentation for a hardware unit that hooked up to the BBC machines in order to perform hardware tests on them for engineers by the looks of it. Wonder if any of the hardware still exists? :-) "Operating Instructions for the Final Inspection and Test System for the BBC Microcomputer". Blimey again. Did these ever even see the light of day? Seems to have been another hardware unit for use by field engineers but I've never heard of it before. BBC 1MHz bus spec document. AIM 65 Stuff ------------ AIM 65 Schematic Forth user's manual PL/65 user's manaul Monitor program listing Basic language reference manual Instant pascal user's manaul ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

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New Finds: Torch software / docs

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 25, 18:21, Jules Richardson wrote: > CP/N hard disk utilities (single floppy, hand-written label) > Torch hard disk utilities (single floppy, again just hand-written label) Hmm... Could I get a copy of those? I think I have the correct MCP ROM somewhere here. > Floppy with a Torch label on saying "spell binder" - no idea! Spellbinder was a CP/M word processor similar to Wordstar. The only other time I've seen it in the flesh was on an Exidy Sorcerer. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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BA11-F boxer muffin fan source ?

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

Hello, I am restoring an 11/70 with a BA11-F chassis which uses 17 4.7"x4.7"x1.5" 115v muffin fans (as they all do) and need to find a good source for replacements. Does anyone have any suggestions? --tnx --tom

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New finds: enough Torch stuff to sink a battleship

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi all, Picked up a huge pile of old Torch hardware, software and manuals from someone today. The guy worked for the company who took things over when Torch went under way back when, and grabbed whatever he could when that company eventually disappeared too. Anyway, I've got a nice pile of spares, schematics and the like, and probably the most complete set of Torch documentation anywhere... I'll stick the documentation and software in a seperate mail and just list the hardware here. Everything needs a damn good cleaning and checking over before I attempt to see what still works! Pictures can follow in a few days, but I'm reorganising all my data at the moment and don't want to confuse myself by adding anything halfway through :-) Oh, I don't know the damn naming convention for D-type connectors, so everything's a 'D' type to me. Apologies in advance... Triple X 'prototype' -------------------- Supposedly this was a prototype of a Triple X machine used in-house by Torch, presumably for development purposes. I'm not 100% convinced yet but I haven't yet been inside it! It's built into two seperate grey metal cases (hard & floppy disk / CPU) - certainly not production-quality either, but the official badging suggests it perhaps wasn't a homebrew project either, so who knows. - Top metal case houses hard disk and floppy in metal case; rear just has power and 50-pin SCSI connector. - Bottom slice is the CPU box; there's a standard-looking Triple X keyboard attached (cable runs through a hole in the case). The front has power LED only and stuck-on label reading: "XXX iss.2 in disguise" :-) The rear has the following with 'proper' lettering: 50 pin SCSI running to disk unit Low-volts out (via bodged connector) for disk unit "Video" (small hole in case only) "Torchnet" (small hole in case only) "Disc interface" (blanked off) RS423 (25-w D female) Parallel (25-w D female) RGB (round DIN, 8 pin) Cassette (round DIN, 7 pin) Reset button (I assume) Mains AC input Power switch "Torch Hard Disc" ----------------- This thing weighs one hell of a lot! 2-tone brown metal case, with inbuilt floppy, hard drive, and monitor. Data sticker gives the model as a C520 and the serial as 84472645 Power supply is in a seperate unit (see below) but still feeds mains into the machine via seperate plug by the looks of it, presumably for the display circuitry. Back-left corner: Keyboard socket (15-w D female) Reset (??) Contrast ? Back-right corner: Mains in (probably!) - from power supply unit 19-w huge round connector to mate with power supply Rear: UHF socket RGB (6-way DIN) Cassette (7-way DIN) Analogue (15-way D female) RS423 (25-way D female) Printer (25-way D male) The keyboard has a regular spacebar plus a small key to the right labelled 'exact space' - curious. "Torch HD Power Pack" --------------------- For use with above machine. Guess they ran out of space in the main case :) Has the following: Mains AC input Mains AC out (I assume??) via short trailing lead 19-way round connector to mate with above machine on a short trailing lead Power switch (likely!) Reset button (?? If so, what's the pushbutton on the main system unit for?) Torch-725 --------- This may be a Quad X machine; if so then there aren't many of them left I expect! It is according to the previous owner, but it doesn't say so on any of the badging. Case is grey steel, about the size/shape of an IBM XT case. Data sticker gives the model as a "725/U" and the serial as "84022913" At the front we have: 2 x slimline 5.25" floppy drives Hard disk led visible through window cut in the case Power led Whilst at the rear: Reset button Keyboard socket, 15-w D female Phone-jack type connector (Mouse? Or alternate keyboard socket - I have keyboards with both type of connector? Or modem?) "RS423 #1" - 25-w D female Parallel - 25-w D male Blanked ports: "RS423 #2", "RS423 #3", "Extension bus", SCSI, X25 Analogue port, 15-w D female Torchnet port, 5-w DIN RGB 6-w DIN Mains in Mains out Switch (power I assume!!) Large grille for cooling fan Monitors -------- One of these should work with the 725 above, another with the Triple X 'prototype' I guess. Single Torch Triple X 13" monitor, model CM13. 8-pin DIN input. Two Torch Triple X 10" monitors, model CM10. 8pin DIN input Unknown 14" RGB monitor, 15-w D type female input. Likely nothing to do with the Torch systems but I guess it'll probably work given a suitable cable. Keyboards --------- One of these for torch-725 presumably, which doesn't have an 'obvious' keyboard like the C520, and doesn't have one attached like the 'prototype'. Four Triple X keyboards; with 6-pin phone-type flat plugs on trailing leads and 6-pin phone-type flat sockets on back of the keyboard (for mice?) Two Cherry-made XT-style keyboards with 15-pin D-type male connectors on trailing leads. Mice ---- I believe the previous owner said the C520 was too old to use a mouse, but the other two systems should support them I think. Anyway, I have six Triple X mice using 6-pin phone-type flat plugs. The cover for one came off and fell down a convenient drain though - whoops... (there are only ever drain covers around when you have something useful to drop down them) Misc ---- Torch Z80 disc pack - grey metal case for two half-height 5.25" drives; it's been stripped of drives but I think the psu is intact. I believe this needs an interface card (which may well be amongst the cards listed below) Triple X PSU (or so I was told; not having a 'genuine' Triple X I don't know!) Box of genuine spare Quad X PAL chips and eproms Box of spare Triple X PAL chips and eproms Box of spare BBC/Torch eproms (presumably for 68k boards etc.) Floppy drives ------------- The owner was having a clear-out so I took a few off his hands - a couple I noticed were Torch-labelled. Four full-height IBM XT style units Five half-height units hand-labelled as 1.2MB Seven half-height units hand-labelled as 360KB Eighteen (!) unknown capacity drives. Five of the unknowns are still bagged and unused. Hard drives ----------- Unknown models / capacities as of yet... not had time to delve into them. Four 5.25" MFM drives, one labelled as Quad X and may still have an OS intact. Three 3.5" MFM drives. Tape drives ----------- Possibly for Quad X? Anyway, there are a couple of 5.25" HH units; not given them more than a brief glance yet so not sure of manufacturer / capacity / interface. Spare boards ------------ Couple of boxes of spare boards came with everything... all connectors are dual-row IDC type sockets unless I say otherwise :) Two Torch Computers 68000 boards. 68k and Z80B CPUs on board, 4 pin single-row connector (power I expect) and 40 pin data connector. I believe these plug into the BBC machines so that they can run Torch's version of CP/M? One is a later model than the other and badged as an Atlas board. Three Torch Z80 Communicator boards. Z80A CPU on board, 40 pin data connector. Another BBC plugin? The owner had hundreds of them apparently and most of them went to landfill a while ago. Unknown Torch Z80 card. 40-pin connector at one end, 26-pin connector at the other. Z80A CPU and SIO chips on board, plus 6522A and an 8255 chip. ROM is Torch labelled as CCCP V1.02 Three Torch internal (internal to what, though?) modems - 40-pin connectors, plus 4-pin single-row for power. Several 40-pin chips: Z80 PIO, MC6803, EF68A21P. ROM is Torch, labelled as "ADM5 2.1". Also a TM2016 chip on board (memory I believe) and a 28-pin IC branded as "world-chip". Two oddball "modems". I don't even know if that's what they are :-) 2x 4-pin single-row connectors, 14 pin single-row connector, then a long trailing lead terminated in a 5 way rounded jack plug. I've not seen those jack plugs on anything before, but it's possible old UK phone exchange equipment might have used them - anyone? There's very little in the way of logic on the boards - it's all analogue. Boards are 6" x 7". Trailing lead goes into a large white plastic 'box' in one corner of the board. On top of this, apparently as an afterthought, is a glued-on smaller black box out of which come two leads that connect back to pins on the 14 pin connector. Hardware hacking at its best... Right, the following appear to all be protocol convertor / interface boards for various storage devices. All are on boards around 6" x 8" in size, and all have a single 4 pin power connector (I may have manuals for all of these; I haven't got that far yet!): Seven issue 3 Torch manta boards, for converting between SCSI and floppy interfaces. Single issue 5 Torch manta board Four OMT boards (model 5200) with a 50 pin connector, 2x 34-pin connectors and 2x 20 pin connectors. SCSI (or SASI?) to MFM disk? Single OMT board with a 50 pin connector, 34-pin connector, and 4x 20 pin connectors. maybe SCSI (or SASI?) to MFM disk again? Four Xebec boards with a 50 pin connector, 3x 20 pin connectors and single 34-way edge connector. Single Xebec board with a 50 pin connector, 2x 20 pin connectors and single 34-way edge connector. Two Archive boards with a 50-pin connector at one end and a 50-way edge connector at the other.5 LEDs by the power connector. Tape interface of some sort, presumably? Single Emulex board, 2x 50-pin connectors at opposite ends of the board. Hmm. Tape again? Single Adaptec board, 2x 50-pin connectors at opposite ends of the board. Single Western Digital board (labelled WD1002-05), 2x 34-pin connectors, 3x 20-pin connectors, and a singe 40-pin connector. Only thing I can think of with 40 pins is IDE and it's too early for that I'm sure (last chip date is 1983) I *think* that's all of it, for now. The guy I got these from had several rooms piled up with stuff; he said he used to have a few 'proper' Triple X systems and is surprised he threw them out, so they may still be lurking somewhere. Same goes with other genuine Torch spares, drives, software, cables etc. There was a Quad X-on-a-card which I had my eye on but the guy still uses some of the other cards in the rack for various things, so I couldn't get hold of that. List of manuals and software to follow... cheers Jules ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

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New Finds: AIM-65 and Acorn documents

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 25, 19:30, Jules Richardson wrote: > Acorn Technical Manual - dated 1979, for a 6502-based SBC. Display is quoted in > the manual as being 9 digits with the leftmost one unused, which may identify > the machine. Possibly a System 1-4 ?? No, it wasn't a System device. That's the original Acorn SBC, I think. I've got the matching User's Manual. > Acorn 6809 users manual - dated 1980, this looks to be for a SBC a little more > 'modern' than the one above. There are fragments of schematics in the manual, > plus an overview of the board layout, construction guide, monitor ROM listing > etc. but no complete schematic. Mine has a fold-out circuit diagram inside the back cover. > Atom Disc Pack construction notes, schematics etc. (anyone got a dump of the > ROM to go with this?) Yes :-) > Document called "A redefinable telesoftware format" - was that what went on > to become prestel in the UK? The same basic CET (Council for Educational Technology) format was used for BBC Telesoftware (on Ceefax), Prestel (Micronet800, Viewfax258 etc) and a few bulletin boards (including Acorn's own Support Information Database -- SID). It went through a few revisions, but the basics didn't change. I wrote some software for that. > "Operating Instructions for the Progressive Establishment Testing System for > the BBC Microcomputer". Blimey. Documentation for a hardware unit that hooked > up to the BBC machines in order to perform hardware tests on them for engineers > by the looks of it. Wonder if any of the hardware still exists? :-) Probably. I'll pay money for one -- I still have most of the other Acorn test equipment. A PET was used to diagnose faulty systems; it could deal with pretty dead machines and/or some obscure faults -- though an experienced engineer could usually do it just about as fast without it. > "Operating Instructions for the Final Inspection and Test System for the BBC > Microcomputer". Blimey again. Did these ever even see the light of day? Seems > to have been another hardware unit for use by field engineers but I've never > heard of it before. Yes, I've got one -- and every Beeb I've ever repaired has passed the FIT. You need the software for it; I think the basic A version is printed in the manual but there's a B version as well (is that also in the manual? I've got one, but not to hand). Every Approved Service Centre was required to have one. There's a companion set of "Test Procedures For The ..." 6502 2P, Z80 2P, Prestel adaptor, Teletext adaptor, ... and other test equipment such as the Watchdog for an Electron and a PIT (sort of combined FIT/PET) for later machines, and an Econet test box. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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New finds: enough Torch stuff to sink a battleship

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 25, 18:19, Jules Richardson wrote: > Picked up a huge pile of old Torch hardware, software and manuals >from someone > today. A nice haul :-) > The keyboard has a regular spacebar plus a small key to the right labelled > 'exact space' - curious. Probably to generate a "non-break space" -- character 160 (0xA0) in ISO 8859 -- used for tables and things where you don't want the text formatter to change the spacing between words. > Torch Z80 disc pack - grey metal case for two half-height 5.25" drives; it's > been stripped of drives but I think the psu is intact. I believe this needs an > interface card (which may well be amongst the cards listed below) Unusual. Production ones were brown. They have a 34-way ribbon cable which plugs in to the Beeb disk interface, and carries the standard SA400-style interface signals. No other interface required. > Two Torch Computers 68000 boards. 68k and Z80B CPUs on board, 4 pin > single-row connector (power I expect) and 40 pin data connector. I believe > these plug into the BBC machines so that they can run Torch's version of CP/M? Not CP/M, that was the board below. These would run a Unix derivative, I think. > Three Torch Z80 Communicator boards. Z80A CPU on board, 40 pin data > connector. Another BBC plugin? The owner had hundreds of them apparently and > most of them went to landfill a while ago. Sounds like the normal Torch Z80 board, to run CPN. > Unknown Torch Z80 card. 40-pin connector at one end, 26-pin connector at the > other. Z80A CPU and SIO chips on board, plus 6522A and an 8255 chip. ROM is > Torch labelled as CCCP V1.02 That's definitely to run CPN. CCCP is the Console Command <something> Processor part of CPN; usually paired with MCP on the Beeb. The 8255 and the 6522 probably make up the Tube interface. CPN, by the way, isn't CP/M. It looks and feels similar, and *some* CP/M software is compatible, but not all -- the memory map is different. > Three Torch internal (internal to what, though?) modems - 40-pin connectors, > plus 4-pin single-row for power. Several 40-pin chips: Z80 PIO, MC6803, > EF68A21P. ROM is Torch, labelled as "ADM5 2.1". Also a TM2016 chip on board > (memory I believe) and a 28-pin IC branded as "world-chip". TM2016 is a 2K x 8 (bytewide) static RAM, pin-compatible to a 2716 EPROM (except for the /WR line, of course). Your "World Chip"" will be an AMD7910 (or possibly AMD7911) FSK modem chip. It was very clever for it's day; it does a range of baud rates and Bell and CCITT tones. Over here, it was used in Miracle Technology modems and many others in the mid '80s. It goes up to 1200 baud half duplex or 300/300 full duplex. > Four Xebec boards with a 50 pin connector, 3x 20 pin connectors and single > 34-way edge connector. > Single Xebec board with a 50 pin connector, 2x 20 pin connectors and single > 34-way edge connector. SASI interfaces to ST412-compatible drives. The 50-pin connector is the SASI (predecessor to SCSI) interface; the 34-pin is the drive control bus, and the 20-pin connectors are the data lines. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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5.25" SMD drives

by cheri-post＠web.de

Right, I also have a Hitachi DK512S-17 with 170MB, this drive is just SMD, not SMD-E. There are even specs on http://www.mbiusa.com/dk512s.html or www.pc-disk.de Pierre cctech(a)classiccmp.org schrieb am 25.06.03 01:17:15: > > On 2003.06.24 21:36 Ethan Dicks wrote: > > > Are there any non-SMD-E drives in the the 5.25" size? > I have a Hitachi 514s of around 380 MB and a Seagate 1.2 GB 5.25" disk. > I think they are both SMD-E. > > If anybody has any detaild information about the Seagate ST-41097J or > ST-41201J bejond "st41097j.txt" or "st41201j.txt" please share it with > me. I have no description of the DIP switches, so I can't use the drive. > But a 1 GB 5.25" SMD disk would be so nice on one of my PDP-11s or > VAXen... > -- > > > tsch??, > Jochen > > Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/ ______________________________________________________________________________ UNICEF bittet um Spenden fur die Kinder im Irak! Hier online an UNICEF spenden: https://spenden.web.de/unicef/special/?mc=021101

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Rodime 552 drive interface?

by cheri-post＠web.de

On an Seagate ST-506 (not the interface, the reel drive), I got from a Mac, I found the same strange connector. The PCB-Board had a MAC-Logo on it. What interface could this really be ? Pierre cctech(a)classiccmp.org schrieb am 25.06.03 01:16:06: > > it looks like a mac floppy drive to the outside world, that's the > interface, it emulates a BIG floppy :) > > At 03:45 PM 6/24/03 -0500, you wrote: > >All, > > a friend of mine had a question this group is probably best to > > answer: > > > >------------- > >I am trying to determine the type of interface on an old Rodime 552 > >drive. It has 26 pins. SCSI has 50. IDE has 40. The old MFM used > >two cables, not one so I don't think it's MFM. I did find a listing for > >it at one of the surplus places in a table which lists interfaces, but all > >it said was "26 pin". I'm trying to figure out if the thing is > >actually one of the more common interfaces with a funny connector--perhaps > >all the GND pins have been combined into one reducing the pin count. > > > >This model of drive is found in the old Apple Hard Disk 20, which was the > >ancient floppy drive interface external hard drive used on Mac 128Ks and > >512Ks before the Plus with SCSI came out. > >---------------- > > > > any help for him? Thanks in advance, > > - Mark ____________________________________________________________________________ Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail anmelden = 1qm Regenwald schuetzen! Helfen Sie mit! Nutzen Sie den Serien-Testsieger. http://user.web.de/Regenwald

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Compaq prolient 1500 dual cpu card

by cheri-post＠web.de

Nope, this bug existed on the P60 and P66. Pierre cctech(a)classiccmp.org schrieb am 25.06.03 01:12:46: > > Jim wrote: > > Anyone interested in an AST Manhattan server? Dual p-90s. It'll be on > > topic in two years. > > Now that's reminded me: has anybody kept any Pentiums with the divide > bug? Weren't they Pentium-90s? > > -- > John Honniball > coredump(a)gifford.co.uk ______________________________________________________________________________ UNICEF bittet um Spenden fur die Kinder im Irak! Hier online an UNICEF spenden: https://spenden.web.de/unicef/special/?mc=021101

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new listings and shipping...

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

New listings on the site - www.rdrop.com/~jimw shipping status: trip into town this past weekend got nuked, but will be in the 'big city' this coming Monday/Tuesday (business stuff - can't shift this one) so will be hitting shippers then. -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw

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Emulex resources?

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

I've been to Al's repository on spies.com and found a few documents, but I'm looking for some info on a variety of Emulex disk controllers. The level of detail I'm at is what controllers support which drives and emulate which DEC interfaces... I.e. - I have an SC21 on the way that emulates an RH11/RH70 and lets me talk to a variety of SMD drives as if they were RM02/RM03/RM05/RM80 drives. I also have a QD34 that was an entire Pound that I'd like to press into service, but I have no cables... I was contemplating removing the I/O transition board and fabricating a "standard" A&B cable connector interface (60 pin/multi-26-pin). I'm also curious to get a reference to other controllers in case I see them float by... most of the ones for sale lack specifics due to seller ignorance. Thanks, -ethan

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ZENITH EASY PC

by allread＠earthlink.net

Hello - I was given your address as I have a Zenith Easy PC that I want to give to a good home. I have continued to use it for various projects even though I have a Dell XP for most activities. I have all the books that came with it; first choice software and also an Epson printer for both continuous forms and singles. That I would like to sell. Would like to hear from an interested person - otherwise, it will be going to Goodwill who will probably dump it. Thanks. Jean in N. Carolina

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OT: Ebay Search Engine

by aw288＠osfn.org

Has anyone on this list been having problems with the Ebay Search Engine within the last week or so? Wildcard searches, typically using two wildcards, are not working for me anymore, typically returning 0 hits. Apparently others have been having some problems, as seen on the Ebay discussion boards. Ebay tech support is being less than helpful. "Well, it works for us". Please reply off list (although I know this will now start an Ebay sucks thread). William Donzelli aw288(a)osfn.org

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manual for 5 1/4" HD drive

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Hi All, I have a project in mind that I'll be using a High Density (1.2Mb) floppy drive for. But it's going to take some tinkering with the jumpers to make it work and I'll need a manual for it. Does anyone know if where I can locate a manual for any of the HD drives on-line or does anyone have a manual (or copy) that they're willing to part with? I haven't decided on any particular model or brand of drive and I have access to hundreds of different ones so I expect that it would be easier to find a manual and then find a drive to match it rather than vice versa. Joe

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more stuff available

by anheier＠owt.com

These are available, $5 each + shipping or trade for older CPU processors. Nicolet NICE in circuit emulator for the Z80. Nice hard case with manual, no software. Norton trouble shooter software version4.5 on 5 1/4" floppies, with manual Datarase II UV EPROM eraser with power supply. Thanks Norm

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Compaq prolient 1500 dual cpu card

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

With all this talk about newer gear - i thought i'd post a want for a p1 machine. i am looking for a "cheap" dual cpu card for the compaq prolient 1500 server i have. compaq uses a card that holds the simm's and cpu. i have the single cpu card but it only allows a 90 mhz p1 - the dual card allows faster cpu's and will work with a single cpu. Bill

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Reference for IBM PC/AT Prototype Adapter (16bit version)

by djenner＠earthlink.net

Does anyone have the technical reference for the 16-bit version of the PC/AT prototype adapter, part 6450220? Or a pointer to it online? Thanks, Dave -- David C. Jenner djenner(a)earthlink.net

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5.25" SMD drives

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

Oops... wrong key... I have an SC21 on the way (as I mentioned elsewhere). I have some 10" and 14" SMD drives I could steal from an SI9900, but I'd like to find some lower-power drives to play with - I'm thinking 2BSD on a Unibus PDP-11, so anything from a couple-hundred megs and up would be great. Are there any non-SMD-E drives in the the 5.25" size? Would anyone know where I could pick up a couple? I remember there were SMD drives up to 600MB in that size, but I don't have part numbers and I don't remember the exact interface type (I just remember the ads on Usenet where the seller was warning people that these 600MB-for-$600 drives would *not* work on your PC). Thanks for any help locating some smallish SMD hardware, -ethan

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Compaq prolient 1500 dual cpu card

by geoffr＠zipcon.net

I didn't know that any of hte 75's or 90's had the FDIV bug... learn something new everyday At 03:05 PM 6/24/03 -0700, you wrote: > >>Now that's reminded me: has anybody kept any Pentiums with the divide > >>>bug? Weren't they Pentium-90s? > > > > nope, P-60's >I have personally seen a P-90 with the FDIV bug so... > > >To Sleep, Perchance to Dream. For in that sleep of death what dreams may >come when we shuffle off this mortal coil must give us pause

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Picked up 3 EPROM programmers - Plus some other goodies

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Got lucky today and picked the following items: BYTEK Multitrk-2000 Universal EPROM programmer with 3.5 FD in the side with the software diskette in it. BYTEK 135 Multiprogrammer BYTEK MPM-1 Four Microvision games in the boxes with manuals; Connect Four, Mindbuster, Star Trek - Phaser Strike, and Bowling NEC Pinwriter P3300

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Realistic MPA-35 owners manual

by kromemail＠shaw.ca

Hi Chris, If you still have an owner's manual for the Realistic MPA-35 I would sure appreciate a copy. Thank you. T. Moore

22 years, 11 months

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TU20 on PDP-9

by aek＠spies.com

interesting.. HP 2020's are 7 tracks.. Could you take a look at the head stack? Looks like all they used was the mechanical transport.

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Openvms Alpha 3.0 kits now available

by stuart＠stuartsjohnsonfamily.net

For those looking for up-to-date VMS media for you Classic (or other) Alpha's, I just noticed that Montgar has the OpenVMS Alpha 3.0 kits available. Finally! For reference, the URL is: http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/mount.html Stuart Johnson

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Trying to help a new VAX-11/750 owner

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

A friend of mine at work got the 11/750 recently offered for free in Pittsburg. I don't yet know how it's loaded except for the L0022 mem controller and 14MB of RAM. My friend would _like_ to get a CI750 for it, since he already has an HSJ40 at home. Barring that, he's considering the $$$ for a Unibus SCSI controller. Besides the actual L0009 card, I'm reading that there appears to be an external enclosure to house part of the CI750. My 750s were always a local-disk affairs (UDA50/SI9900/etc). I have no experience with CI hardware and don't know what advice to give him. Can anyone here describe what you need to pull this all together (he already has an SC008 and cables). I'll try to get him on the list... he currently has about a dozen Alpha Servers and is in the process of working backward in time in the DEC world. -ethan

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Systems Industries CS-1?

by erd_6502＠yahoo.com

I have this dual-height Qbus card that I was told was a SCSI card (got it from a former boss). It has a 50-pin connector and gives the appearance of being a SCSI card, but I can't find any docs on it online. The logo reminds me of Systems Industries', and the model number appears to be "CS-1". I checked with Al's site and there's no SI docs there at all. There's a good chance that this is a TMSCP device, not an MSCP device, but I don't know that for sure. Is this board familar to anyone? -ethan

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Fwd: Monrobot XI details

by dbetz＠xlisper.mv.com

Here is the latest information on the Monrobot XI computers that have become available in Virginia. I'm afraid that while I am quite interested in these, I will probably be unable to acquire one. It seems they are interested in selling them rather than giving them away to good homes. Any reasonable sale price in addition to the considerable cost of shipping a 500 pound machine will probably put them out of my price range. I'm hoping that some public computer collection will acquire at least one of these and make it available for viewing. I would be happy to help in the rescue if anyone here decides to buy one. I would even consider contributing to the purchase and transportation of a machine if it ends up in a publicly accessible museum or collection. Begin forwarded message: > From: FThomas470(a)aol.com > Date: Mon Jun 23, 2003 9:41:17 AM US/Eastern > To: dbetz(a)xlisper.mv.com > Subject: Monrobot XI details > > This is in response to the great interest we've received regarding the > Monorobt XI computers that we have and for which we would like to > find a good home > . > > For disposal, currently we have 6 complete computers plus 1 that has > been > partly cannabilized for parts. > > Each unit consists of a main processing unit which is about the size > of an > office desk and weighs about 500 lbs. It contains all of the > electronics and the > memory drum which has 1000 bytes of 32 bits each. It has 3 input and 3 > output > ports. The circuitry consists of about a hundred unpluggable pc boards > containing readily available discrete components, primarily ordinary > transistors of > several types. > > On the top of the unit is the control panel or console. It has 8 > lighted > push-buttons, switches, and indicator lights. > > A side desk or return can be attached to main unit in several ways. It > holds > the I/O typerwriter and contains a Friden paper tape punch unit and a > tape > reader in slide-out drawers. > > Four units have the original I/O typewriter, which is the IBM model A > with > a Soroban translating mechanism added to it's bottom. It plugged > directly into > the main processor. > > The other I/O typewriters are IBM Selectrics and have an interface > unit. > These don't use the standard ASCII code but use IBM's Manifest > character set. It's > caps only and was designed for use with forms and invoices. Otherwise, > the > Selectrics are standard in every way. > > In addition, we have three Monroe magnetic card readers for the above. > These > used magnetic cards the size of the standard IBM punched card and had > 96 > addressable 32 bit registers. > > The most important fact is that we have a complete set of manuals for > the > above. There are detailed technical manuals on the design and > operation of these > units and the various components, as well as service and repair > information. > We also have manuals for many diagnostic and utility programs as well > as > customer installation manuals. We have instruction and program manuals > for various > applications, such as general accounting, various business programs, > Fortran > and a programming language with compiler. > > The above printed matter consists of roughly 2000 sheets (1000 > double-side) > in loose-leaf form. We have estimates for making copies that vary from > 4 to 6 > cents per side, which would be about $100 per set. > > All of the above units were in working condition when they were stored > away > about 14 years ago and none seem to have been damaged in the interim. > However, > in most units, the slides for the tape punches and readers have been > removed > at some time in the past. These are standard hardware and should be > easy to > replace. > > We have not turned any of them on because the bearings of the high > speed > magnetic drum are delicate. If the lubrication used is solidified or > oxidized in > any way, the bearings could easily be damaged, which could be a > problem. > Before use, they should be cleaned and reoiled with very high quality > oil, which is > not difficult to do. The original specs called for synthetic (or real) > porpoise oil, whatever that is. > > We are offering them for sale and would like to know what the > interested > parties feel they would be worth. We don't wish to start a bidding war > of any > kind, but want only to establish a price for these remarkable, > historic machines > that would fair and reasonable to all. > > Finally, these units are being offered AS IS, and whoever wishes to > have one > or more of them will have to be responsible for the shipping, which we > would > help arrange. > > If you are interested or wish to have more information, please email > us at > thomasduplex(a)aol.com.

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National Instruments Cards available

by anheier＠owt.com

I have a bunch of older National Instrument data acquisition cards available. Best offer or trade for older CPU processors. NB-GPIB, macintosh Nubus GPIB card AT-AO-6/10, ISA bus analog output card PC-TIO-10, ISA bus timer/counter card. I have manuals, cables, and signal breakouts for some of these. thanks Norm

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Tek 1230

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

> Hi, > > I came across your 8008/8080 web page while searching for ... I've noticed a fair number of these types of posts lately. Basically it comes down to the address munging that's being done to prevent spammers from harvesting is also preventing legitimate browsers from identifying the authors of messages individually. I'm not sure if anyone wants this fixed, but couldn't we perform some form of reversible modification to the email address? Perhaps turning cctalk(a)classiccmp.org into cctalk2003ATclassiccmpDOTorg would fool the harvesters and allow people to reply to an individual. Just a thought, Erik Klein www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum The Vintage Computer Forum

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Reading various format 5.25" floppies on a PC

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

OK, apologies first as this has been done to death at various times in the past, and now I come to need the info I haven't got the willpower to piece it together from archives of several thousand posts :-) I'm trying to organise and back up all my data (primarily on my main PC system) - but I'd also like to make images of the disks for some of my classic platforms whilst I'm at it. I don't have any kind of fancy floppy controller, just whatever comes in a standard PC (I do have PCs running Windows 2000, Windows ME, Windows NT, Linux and DOS so I'm not too fussy about OS choice) I have various 5.25" floppy drives lying around, although I *assume* the 1.2MB drive will electrically read all of my 5.25" disks (whether the controller can understand the raw data coming off the disks is another matter of course) I've got disks for the following machines which I'd like to initially back up: Acorn BBC / BBC Master / Cambridge Workstation (I believe these are all the same low-level format even if filesystem structure is different) DEC Rainbow (B model, if there's a difference between that and the A) Apple (Apple ][, //e and /// - again I believe low-level structure is the same for all 3?) So, in an ideal world, what I'd like to be able to do is use some piece of software on the PC and suck an entire image off each disk, archive it onto tape / CD / whatever, then at some point in the future be able to use the same software on a PC to rebuild from those disk images such that they'll work in the machine they were intended to. I'm not even going to think about the Amiga and Mac 3.5" disks for now; I know the PC controller won't handle those - and all the stuff on cassette tape can wait too! :-) (the couple of Macs I do have might be a better bet for this job, but unfortunately none of them are networked and so I couldn't get the data off them to a place where I can store it easily) cheers Jules ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

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Seeking a Cromemco C-10

by kurtk7＠visi.com

I have been looking for a C-10 for some time but lost out in a recent auction. My bad luck, so I doesn't suppose anyone might know where I can find another C- 10. I know its a long shot but I thought I would ask. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Kurt

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webby list archive administrivia (was Re: Tek 1230)

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Erik Klein" <classiccmp(a)vintage-computer.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I came across your 8008/8080 web page while searching for ... > > I've noticed a fair number of these types of posts lately. Basically > it comes down to the address munging that's being done to prevent > spammers from harvesting is also preventing legitimate browsers from > identifying the authors of messages individually. No, they can identify the author by name. What it really comes down to is that the address munging provides a mailto: link which makes it easy for folks who find the archive pages to generate an e-mail message to the list (which is OK), and that these folks don't realize that they're about to post to a mailing list and that providing some context would be a good thing. If they realized that, they could perhaps write "w/r/t foo's message to this list on date mm/dd/yy on the matter of bar" or even copy and paste some of the webby archive page into the message. What might be helpful would be for the webby archive pages to not have that link right next to the poster's name, but instead to have a "post a follow-up to this message" link somewhere on the page. I have no idea how to do this using pipermail though. -Frank McConnell

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Tek 1230

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jun 23, 14:43, Erik Klein wrote: > I've noticed a fair number of these types of posts lately. Basically > it comes down to the address munging that's being done to prevent > spammers from harvesting is also preventing legitimate browsers from > identifying the authors of messages individually. > > I'm not sure if anyone wants this fixed, but couldn't we perform some > form of reversible modification to the email address? Perhaps turning > cctalk(a)classiccmp.org into cctalk2003ATclassiccmpDOTorg would fool the > harvesters and allow people to reply to an individual. I'd like to see it fixed. I've had occasional useful contacts from people who've seen my address in the archive, and I'd rather see it munged in some human-reversible way than simply replaced with the mailing list address. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Tek 1230

by dan.fellman＠lmco.com

Hi, I came across your 8008/8080 web page while searching for info on old Tektronix logic analyzers. I recently bought a model 1220 analyzer on eBay which is very similar to the 1230 you describe. It didn't come with pods or probes, but I thought I might be able to improvise something. After some study of the front panel connector with an ohmmeter and voltmeter, I believe I've identified the data lines, power and ground, and some other inputs that must be used for clocks and control signals, but the analyzer doesn't respond to any of the signals I feed in. It seems to have some mechanism for recognizing that a compatible Tek pod is attached. The input channels just show up as "unused" when I attempt to acquire data. I suppose it could be some setup step I'm missing, but I don't see anything on the various menus that looks like a pod enable. I'd appreciate any insight you can give me into this problem. Also, are you aware of other pods that go with these units besides the P6444's? Thanks, Dan

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Looking for Burroughs B20/BTOS software/hardware/docs

by alanp＠snowmoose.com

I am getting a gaggle of Burroughs B20/BTOS machines through eBay. I developed software on them for Burroughs back in the late 80s. Didn't really care for the machines at the time, but I thought the expansion capability by adding "slices" was pretty neat. Does anyone have any B20 "slices" or any BTOS/CTOS software or documentation that they want to sell? alan BTW, long ago I promised to scan in some of my VAX documentation, but life keeps getting in the way. I hope to get that stuff done in August now.

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TU20 on PDP-9

by m_thompson＠ids.net

I put some pictures of the TU20 tape drive for the PDP-9 at: http://ricm.museum.com/collections/pdp-9/pdp-9.html I was a little surprised to see the HP label on the transport. Michael Thompson E-Mail: M_Thompson(a)IDS.net

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B&C Microsystems UP200

by elwood＠sprhill.net

Dear sir, I saw your post about software for the UP200 and UP600 I need this software. Thanks, DR

22 years, 11 months

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Making holes in magnetic tape

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi John Although it is a serious issue if the tape is folded where the signals are, where the holes are isn't. Just fold the tape in two diagonal directions and cut it with sizzors. The hole will be a square but the computer doesn't care. You'll need to erase the tape and reformat. Dwight >From: John <john_a_s2003(a)hotmail.com> > >Hi, > >I have some DC100A type cartridges for my HP-85, but at the start of the >tape the magnetic coating has come away where the drive belt has been left >in contact with the same part of the tape for too long. > >I have figured out the pattern of holes in the end of the tape used by the >optical sensor to detect EOT. I would like to punch a new set of holes away >from the damaged area and see if the rest of the tape is usable. > >So any tips please on making suitable holes in the tape, my attempts so far >with a pin have not been a great success..... > >Thanks, >John

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VAX DSSI dyssentary?

by allain＠panix.com

I have a 'new' microVAX 4000-200 here that has a few small oddities with it, and I could use some advice. Number one is that it will not boot. I tried 'b dia0' and 'b/r5:e0000001 dia0' and both times it's nothing until timeout. Number two is that 'show dssi' and 'sho dev' show no disks, nor the TF85. After some initial confusion where one or more disks were tried uncabled before powerup, the DSSI terminator was discovered missing, so I used one from another machine. My questions are, are there other tests for a disk besides booting it, and, what could be wrong with the DSSI bus? I tried other DSSI ID's on the disks but no real change. Do the ID's have to start with 0? A tidbit with the terminator off was that the countdown tests went from 95.. to 60.. and then autobooted immediately back to 95 without continuing down. I could have sworn at the time that 'sho dssi' worked then. Probably unreleted but FYI. TIA John A.

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Siemens System 4004 on Willy Wonka

by vcf＠siconic.com

I was channel flipping and came across a movie on The Disney Channel where a guy was standing in front of the front panel of a computer with tape drives spinning in the background. He was doing some demonstration for three men, pushing buttons and flipping switches on the front panel and then the computer was spitting out results on punch card from the front (this part was fake). At first I thought it was a recent film. I thought the tape drives looked very authentic, because their movement was very real. Then I looked at the front panel and saw "Siemens System 4004", and was quite surprised. It turns out the movie is "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory". The last time I saw this was probably 15 years ago. The Siemens System 4004 is very interesting in this context. According to Hans, it is the first fully transistorized digital computer, beating out even the MIT TX-0. The Austrian Mail?fterl also vies for the title, but Hans Franke claims it wasn't fully completed or something: http://www.museumonline.at/2000/wien-feuerbach/mailueft/mailueft_de.htm http://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/inhalt/co/5163/1.html A quick Google search turned up a computer that I was not previously aware of: http://www.pbs.org/transistor/background1/events/sscomputer.html This is the TRADIC (TRAnsistorized DIgital Computer) built by Bell Labs. If the year is correct, I believe this is a contender for the title. This site says 1955: http://www.cedmagic.com/history/tradic-transistorized.html Here's a couple pages on the Siemens 4004: http://www.wolfgangtroeger.de/museum.htm http://www.computermuseum-muenchen.de/computer/siemens/ Pretty cool stuff. Is anyone still keeping track of these vintage computer movie appearances? This one is pretty significant ;) -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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http://www.decdocs.org

by jhfinexgs2＠compsys.to

I just attempted to check this address: http://www.decdocs.org/ =============================================== This domain has expired It will be deleted in the next few days. If you are the owner of this domain, you still have a chance to renew it. Domain Name Expires decdocs.org 19-JUN-03 You can renew all or part of the listed domains immediately; we recommend doing this, in case we don't have your credit card on file. Domains renewed manually will not be auto-renewed. If you own this domain, you can also log in to your account by clicking this button. =============================================== Anyone interested? Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

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Computerized Music Gear On eBay

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

I remember someone was interested in music gear. Don't know if you'd consider this worth the asking price or not, but it looks like a nice set. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2539449598&category=38071

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IBM PC3270 (5271) keyboard connector?

by drido＠optushome.com.au

I just picked up an IBM PC3270 with the 122 key keyboard. The 122 key keyboard has a 5 pin connector, but the pins are in different positions so it won't plug into to the keyboard socket as is. I assume there is an adapter that it usually included. Does anyone have the pinout? It does boot with a standard XT keyboard, but give a 302 error. It would be nice to use the original keyboard if I can.

22 years, 11 months

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Diablo 630 daisywheels (UK)

by luc＠e2t.be

Hi, John, I do have one - I never dumped it, because I loved those (bloody) 630's I's a metal one with the USA Titan10 character set, never used... You can have it if you want it... I might have the service manuals of this 630 too - somewhere... gr. Luc Belgium -----Original Message----- From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of John Honniball Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 11:27 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Diablo 630 daisywheels (UK) Does anybody have any spare daisywheels for a Diablo 630 printer? I have one of these printers, apparently complete and working, but without a daisywheel. Alternatively, does anybody here want it, as it is? I'm in Bristol, UK. -- John Honniball coredump(a)gifford.co.uk

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by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

Stuart, You out there? Best Regards Bennett

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HP1350 Graphics Translators

by vassilip＠dsl.cis.upenn.edu

Bob Shannon <bshannon(a)tiac.net> in cctalk-647 wrote: > As long at I have the HP bus analyzer connected, and set for SLOW or > HALT bus speeds, I can correctly transfer commands and data to the HP > 1350 (a listen only device). When the bus analyzer is removed, or > connected and set to FAST the bus transfers > will lock up at the inter-command "::" seperator characters. Its almost > as if the HP 1350 cannot signal the bus that it needs to > wait and think about the last command. > > What would happen if a HPIB listener could not drive NRFD? I think that what may be wrong is a simple pull-up or pull-down resistor (which may explain why the setup works with the bus analyser connected). NRFD and NDAC are supposed to be "weakly" pulled high (so that even one device pulling it low wins), so your 1350 may be allowing this line to float rather than pulling it high. If the bus analyser is connected, it will pull the line high (since the 1350 is floating the line) and the bus cycle will work. With the bus analyzer removed, the line stays floating and the cycle freezes.

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WTB: Shugart 800/801 drives

by dmabry＠mich.com

Hi folks, For some reason, I've gotten the bug to get some of my Intel Development Systems working again, and it seems that the main part I need is the floppy drive. The Intels use single sided, double density drives. All mine have Shugart 800/801 variety. I would like to buy two or three of them, preferable working. If anyone would like to sell up to three of them, please let me know. Also, if there is anyone local to me (Detroit area) who would like a working Intel Series II development system, I have one to sell. Everything is checked out and works. I really don't want to ship it. It is a major hassle to palletize it and then shipping costs about $150 because of the weight. So, local only for now. Thanks. Dave -- Dave Mabry dmabry(a)mich.com Dossin Museum Underwater Research Team NACD #2093

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Bootstrap for TS11 (or TU80)

by ggs＠shiresoft.com

Hi, I'm looking for a PDP-11 bootstrap for a TS11 (or a TU80 -- same thing actually). I can't seem to actually located one. I've created a unix v7m distribution tape and I want to see if I can't install from it. Thanks. -- TTFN - Guy

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HP-9825 Modules Available

by jontitus＠attbi.com

Folks: I have several extra modules for an HP-9825 calculator/computer: Operating System, No. 09825-67905 Long module, slides in the side. (two available) String -- Adv. Programming, No. 98210A. Short module, slides in the front. (two available) 9872A Plotter -- Gen I/O and Extended I/O. Short module, slides in the front. (one available) Make me an offer. Offer ends on June 30th at noon EDT. Jon Jon Titus 36 Sunset Drive Milford, MA 01757-1362 USA Phone: +1-508-478-8040 E-mail: jontitus(a)attbi.com

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HP 64K in Phoenix, AZ

by doc＠vaxen.net

Apache Reclamation & Electronics has an HP 64110A with a 6809 analyzer module. The 6809 module looks a little rough, but the 64110A looked very clean. Keyboard is attached and intact. That type of gear is far out of my ken, but it seemed I've seen the 64000 machines discussed here. I was in a hurry, so I have no idea what they want for it. They also have the most amazing array of test equipment I've ever seen. Doc

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I'm looking for TRS-80 expansion interface of schematic.

by uemukai＠154649.com

Hi, I want to repair TRS-80 expansion interface ( 26-1140 ), and am looking for this schematic. Thank you. Takeshi Uemukai. uemukai(a)154649.com

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I'm looking for TRS-80 expansion interface of schematic.

by uemukai＠154649.com

Hi, I want to repair TRS-80 expansion interface ( 26-1140 ), and am looking for this schematic. Thank you. Takeshi Uemukai. uemukai(a)154649.com

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HP-85: GETSAVE utility for converting tokenized BASIC progs to ASCII

by vassilip＠dsl.cis.upenn.edu

This applies to Series 80 computers. As I mentioned in a previous posting, you need the GETSAVE utility to convert tokenized Basic programs to ASCII form. As these commands were not built in to the main system ROMs, you need to get the binary program GETSAVE (http://www.series80.org/Programs). However, I have just found out that the SAVE and GET commands are built into the Electronic Disk ROM. So if you have the 00087-15012 Electronic Disk (EDISC) ROM or if you have the electonic disk built-in (e.g. HP 85B, HP 9915B, and I think HP86B) you do not need the binary utility. Final note, as GETSAVE is a binary program, you have to be careful to use the correct version for your platform (i.e. there is one version for the HP83/85 and another for the HP86/87). **vp

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Apple IIgs SCSI Card

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

Whats the difference in rom versions of the Apple II scsi cards, I have seen numerous B and C rom'd cards. Can you easily change the rom versions? I wanted a scsi card for my IIgs and I think only C rom versions work.

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Diablo 630 daisywheels (UK)

by coredump＠gifford.co.uk

Does anybody have any spare daisywheels for a Diablo 630 printer? I have one of these printers, apparently complete and working, but without a daisywheel. Alternatively, does anybody here want it, as it is? I'm in Bristol, UK. -- John Honniball coredump(a)gifford.co.uk

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FS: processor chips

by pat＠purdueriots.com

Nothing too exciting, just trying to get rid of some 'spares'. - MIPS R4600/133 MHz "PC" (L1 cache only) module from an SGI Indy. It was working when I pulled it. - Intel 80486 486DX/33MHz - Intel Pentium 120MHz "A80502120" The MIPS processor is a whole module, the other two are just the PGA chips. I'm asking just for $5 shipping for each (for the continental US, other places are probably more expensive). First offer get it. Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCS Information Technology at Purdue Research Computing and Storage http://www.itap.purdue.edu/rcs/

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Making holes in magnetic tape

by john_a_s2003＠hotmail.com

Hi, I have some DC100A type cartridges for my HP-85, but at the start of the tape the magnetic coating has come away where the drive belt has been left in contact with the same part of the tape for too long. I have figured out the pattern of holes in the end of the tape used by the optical sensor to detect EOT. I would like to punch a new set of holes away >from the damaged area and see if the rest of the tape is usable. So any tips please on making suitable holes in the tape, my attempts so far with a pin have not been a great success..... Thanks, John

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FS: Cyrix chips

by pat＠purdueriots.com

I remember seeing a thread on here a month or two ago about someone wanting a Cyrix Fastmath and/or a Cyrix 486 upgrade for a 386 socket. I grabbed a 33MHz and 40MHz pair of each, on 386 motherboard. If anyone's interested, I'm asking $5 each board plus shipping. I'm in West Lafayette, IN. Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCS Information Technology at Purdue Research Computing and Storage http://www.itap.purdue.edu/rcs/

22 years, 12 months

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Another Geniac goes High

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewitem&item=2735752048 I do not think I will ever get one of these but I do have 2 of the Brainiac's.

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Nice 9-track found

by dogas＠bellsouth.net

I got to walk away from a computer store's sale yesterday with a Fujitsu 2444ac rack mountable sweet 9-track and PC interface card, a Computer Logics PCTD16 standard Pertec Interface ISA card & cableing that will run it all from a fairly current PC plus a few tapes to play with too. $5 and my back still hurts. ;) I also got copies of the CE Manual and the Engineering manual for the Fuji and manuals and (I hope a) liscence for Chi Corp's OutRight and ReelView software too. I'll try Chi on Monday because we couldn't find only the disk.... Meanwhiles, I couldn't dig up anything usable from goodle or even info on the "Standard Pertec Interface" for natively talking with the card... Chi's OutRight API looks like Anyone have any freeware or specs for working with this? Thanks - Mike: dogas(a)bellsouth.net

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free junk: non-VT terminals, UNIX manuals, RL01s

by j.r.engdahl＠adelphia.net

I'm cleaning out the shop. This stuff will go out in the trash on Tuesday unless someone says they want it: Televideo 925 terminal & kbd, works (not VT100 compatible) Wyse WY-50 terminal & kbd, green screen, works, non-VT100 four manuals: AT&T UNIX PC UNIX System V - Users Manual - Programmers Guide - Utilities - Virtual Device Interface The manuals are in four boxed 3-ring binders. The backs have a little surface mold that can probably be wiped off. Four ~1986 Micropolis hard drives, all look identical except for labels: - 2 RD53 - 1 ST506 86 meg (same Micropolis part number as RD53) - 1 1355 170 meg ESDI All of these are unknown except I know the EDSI drive won't spin up correctly. The ESDI was my DOS 5 system disk. Free if you want it, I'll pack it, you pay shipping. Email me if interested, I haven't been reading this list regularly of late. I also have two RL01 drives and 14 disks. These are also free, but are not going to be trashed. I'll keep them until someone claims them. These are too big for me to pack, so you'll have to make all arrangements if you want them. If you come pick them up, you can have the 19" rack and I'll throw in a free PDP-11/23 and a VT-320 just for taking them away for me. --- Jonathan Engdahl Chardon, OH 44024 "The things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal." II Cor. 4:18

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need hard/software?

by vze2ryp6＠verizon.net

while browsing through your messages I noticed someone in need of hard/software for a Triple Crown 700 Eprom burner. I have the whole system if still intersted.

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HP 9121

by vassilip＠dsl.cis.upenn.edu

In cctalk digest, Vol 1 #643 Lee.Davison(a)merlincommunications.com wrote: > I don't think the HP-85 writes a LIF format [...] The HP 85 uses LIF, that is why LIFUTIL can read HP 85 disks > There's no option on a 85 to save the program files in an ASCII format You have to use the GETSAVE utility that adds the SAVE and GET commands that use ASCII files. GETSAVE is a binary utility, so you need a different one depending on whether you have an HP83/5 or HP86/7. Both versions may be found at http://www.series80.org/Programs At the top of that page you can find instructions on how to get the LIFUTIL software (for those that do not have it) and also instructions for exchanging programs and data between PCs and HP Series 80 machines with floppy drives. **vp

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Bad experience with eBay seller

by vcf＠siconic.com

I must relate a bad experience I had with an eBay seller. The account name is "rexbassdesigns". The auction in question was a lot of three Altair 8800's and an ADM-3A terminal. I was purchasing them for a client. The ad stated that the units were in "very good" condition. The seller fired them up and showed one picture with the unit on. The pictures indicated that they were indeed in "very good" condition, and the photo gave the impression that they had been stored in a good, clean environment. The ADM-3A terminal was described as "missing a few keys" but the seller said he might have a "replacement set or two". Upon receiving the units, I noticed right away that the machines were not as described. They looked as if they'd been stored in an outdoor shed or something. They had a lot of dirt inside and some boards had obviously been exposed to moisture over a long period of time. The ADM-3A terminal was a complete mess. The seller's description of "missing a few keys" was rather optimistic, as the keyboard was missing half its keys. Overall it was in terrible condition, having obviously been stored outdoors. The lot is not a complete loss; the Altairs should be able to be restored to working condition and cleaned up, and the price paid was certainly reasonable. However, the seller was quite misleading in his description, and the "replacement set" for the ADM keyboard turned out to be a spare keyboard from a totally different terminal, which of course is silly. I tried to explain to the seller that I felt he was misleading, but he was way too defensive for anything constructive to come out of it, so I informed him that I would simply have to leave him negative feedback, which I rarely do (this is only the second time, the first was because some guy up and disappeared and didn't send me the goods). I don't like leaving negative feedback, but I felt I had to in this case to warn others about this seller, as he's selling other old computer stuff. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4193&item=2729439759 -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *

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Sound for DOS games on modern hardware?

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

OK, I've long since lost the orignal post, but wasn't Ethan specifically trying to run Wolf3D? My memory's pretty darn hazy on this, but I have a feeling that game may support parallel-port audio devices. Back then soundcards were expensive but a parallel-port DAC could be wired up quite cheaply; I remember rigging one up so I could play Amiga soundtracker mod files on the PC. There was also a Windows 3.0 driver floating around. A (very) few DOS games supported such devices - and talking to a parallel port hasn't exactly changed over the years (whilst bus connection methods have). The extra CPU load from driving a parallel port device isn't exactly a problem on modern hardware either :-) Just an idea if you have no ISA slots on the PC and can't rig up another machine anyway - but of course no use whatsoever if the games you want to run won't support a parallel port device! :) I can't find my copy of Wolf3D in order to check :-( I used to have it but I think it's long since vanished - shame as it was a pretty neat game from what I recall. cheers Jules ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

22 years, 12 months

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Cleaning the basement, stuff for sale (cheap)

by ian_primus＠yahoo.com

Now that school is over, I have more time to work on classic computers, but first I really need to reduce the clutter in the basement/workshop. I have accumulated a lot of spare parts and duplicate machines over the last few years, and I really don't need them, and I would like to reclaim some of my space to make room for more interesting things. So, here is a partial list of stuff that I would like to sell. NOTE: All prices are just suggestions, no reasonable offer refused. I am not trying to make money here. Buyer to pay actual shipping charges >from ZIP 12309 Everything is tested and working, and in pretty good condition unless noted. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Macintosh ADB keyboards - I have lots of these and lots of different models, if you want a specific model, just ask; I probably have it. I'll also include a cable - $3 Macintosh ADB mice - $1 Macintosh ADB cables - 50 cents Apple IIgs keyboards - $3 Apple Disk II disk drives - $5 Apple UniDisk 5.25 drives, both beige and platinum colored - $3 Apple 800k external 3 1/2" floppy drives - $5 Apple IIe computers, both regular and extended models - $6 Apple IIgs computers, both ROM 1 and ROM 3 models. Includes keyboard and mouse - $8 Macintosh Plus computer, 4mb RAM, with keyboard and mouse - $10 Macintosh SE computer, 4mb RAM, 40 meg hard drive, with keyboard and mouse - $10 Macintosh Classic II computer, 4mb RAM, 80 meg hard drive, with keyboard and mouse - $10 Macintosh LC II and LC III computers, I think these have 80 meg hard drives, and I forget how much RAM. I'll check if you want. No keyboard or mouse - $3 Macintosh 1.44 meg auto inject floppy drive - cleaned, lubricated and tested - $4 Tri-color ribbons for Apple ImageWriter II printers. New, sealed - $1 DEC VT-220 terminals. These are rather used and somewhat yellowed, but they have been very well cleaned and work well. Some have light screen burn. They were used in a school for a time, and have had the school graffiti cleaned off of them, but some still have faint traces. Also, on the backs, they have some engraved numbers. Includes keyboard. Available with green, amber or white video tubes - $15 DEC LK-201 keyboards - These were used in a school for a time, and have had the old markings cleaned off. All keys and the cable are present and accounted for, and all keys work. - $5 Computer power cords - 25 cents PC 3 1/2" floppy drives - $2 PC 5 1/4" floppy drives (1.2 meg) - $1 AT style PC keyboards - $1 AT style PC power supplies - $2 486 computers - $5 80 megabyte SCSI hard drives - $2 I also have some random extra parts for many models of old Macintosh computers, as well as for older x86 PC's. If you are looking for something that isn't listed, don't hesitate to ask, I might have one. Ian Primus ian_primus(a)yahoo.com

22 years, 12 months

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Flamingo Wont Boot

by TRUTHANL＠columbus.rr.com

No, Its Not because it has those long flimsy skinny legs! Really I brought my Flamingo DEC 3000 Model 500 Home. Set it in the basement and the thing won't boot. It had had DEC UNIX on it ....I had rescued it from from my former employer- it wasn't a PC so they could find any takers... Now the Panel cycles up and goes through a series of numbers Gets to #63 and retries 5 more times and then posts a couple of numbers in the 70's like 72... 74.... and then stops with DD lit in the status indicators.. It does all this without bringing up the console. ?? Any help out there???. I dont have the distribution media, or tape media for back- ups, for this machine If I could force a boot off CD? I have one CD which is an alpha version of linux called Potato? Any thoughts? I am in central Ohio.

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