- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by Oliver.Riegel＠mbtech-group.com

Hi Toth, I saw your demand for any Parts of the uA78MGU1C. I have a few of them. 10 or 20 pieces. Are you interessted ? Keep in touch Oliver Your Demand from Thu Dec 19 08:04:13 2002 I've been looking for a replacement uA79MG negative voltage regulator for awhile, but so far haven't been able to find one. It is for a custom power supply for an embedded system made in the early 1980s. Fairchild's part number for the device is uA79MGU1C, which they call a 'Power Watt' package. It actually looks like a TO-220, but has 4 leads. The regulator bolts to a heat sink on the supply's board. I need at least one of these parts, but could use a spare or two if someone has a bunch hiding away in their parts cabinet. I could also use a couple spare uA78MG (uA78MGU1C) regulators too, but they would just be put away as spares for these power supplies. -Toth

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by GRAVEVAULTS＠aol.com

Mr. Morton, I seen online that you were in need of the system operation disk for the 630 memorywriter by Xerox. I can get you a copy of each if you get back in touch with me. Adrian Stokes

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Mac G5 / Moving to OS X

by sml49＠comcast.net

> Hi Seth, > > I'm curious if you bought those upgrades new, and what they cost? > > --tnx > --tom Tom.. The G3/800 was about $298. The Maxtor 200 was $199 after a rebate, the Acard controller around $86 and the Radeon 7000 another $105 and the Lite-On 526 around $40 over the counter locally so around $725 or so total. I had done this incrementally - I needed a larger faster drive long before I decided to go to OS X. And yes, to respond to another poster, the machine would indeed run OS X w/out all this and in fact it did for awhile but it wasn't as responsive as I'd have liked. I bought the Radeon - it's the fastest non-AGP one - with the idea that I would be able to move up at some point to a large digital LCD display; my old FD Trinitron is showing signs of age and I don't figure on buying any further CRT displays. This is my mainstream machine, the one I keep my digital life on so I pamper it; besides, I like it's blue front panel :-). Its FireWire ports are a little funky - all Blue G3's are reputed to have flaky FireWire - so a few years ago I put an Adaptec PCI FW card in there; found it on the discount table at the local Micro Center. There's also the dozen or so assorted older 68000 and early PPC Macs I have around here, most working and a handful of them online. My source of supply is the local town disposal area; very fruitful. Need a Iisi or two? A small to medium sized SCSI drive? I've got a few tubs full of 'em.. Seth > > At 04:30 PM 7/18/2003 -0400, you wrote: >>>> If your a current mac user the g5 WILL be alot faster then what you >>> have, >>>> if your an Intel user I dont see a rush to buy anything made by apple. >>> If >>>> your a unix geek you might want a G5 just to say you own one and make >>>> fellow geeks unworthy of your presence. >>> >>>> The funny thing is mac users who laugh at PC guys upgrading their >>> hardware >>>> every year are now doing the same thing, except its alot more costly >>> for >>>> them buying complete new machines while PC users just chuck the >>>> motherboard/ram/video card in their old rig. This upgrade cycle of >>>> hardware will eventually kill the mac market because only the very >>> rich >>>> can keep up. What percentage of mac owners are using OSX? What >>> percentage >>>> will upgrade to a current OSX running machine anytime soon? >> >> That's not quite the case. Macs have a considerably longer useful life than >> PCs, generally, and are indeed upgradeable. I just took my January 1999 >> model Blue G3/400 desktop, swapped the 8.5 GB Ultra2Wide SCSI disk subsystem >> for a fast 200 gig Maxtor and an ATA 133 card, slipped in an 800 mhz G3 CPU >> daughtercard and installed a Radeon 7000 instead of the OEM Rage 128 and a >> LiteOn 52x CDROM instead of the old Matushita 24x (I already have an >> external 1394 burner) and a Kensington 3-button Studio Mouse. Runs OS 10.26 >> like a charm. Sure a G5 would be faster but this setup handles a heavy duty >> OS10.26 without any strain, web pages render in a flash etc. Plus this one >> will still boot OS9 directly and I can use my old ADB keyboard of which I'm >> fond. I figure on getting a year or two more out of this machine by which >> time I may just buy a laptop and use the G3 for a file and web server. I >> would've LIKED a new machine, but didn't NEED one. Of the four households >> in this immediate family 3 are on OS X; only my 87 year old father in law >> doesn't want to upgrade his 1998 rev A iMac and install it. That's 75% >> penetration. Also the G3/400 daughtercard I removed is now installed in what >> was formerly a Beige G3/266 I keep at work as a scanning station. That >> leaves me with a spare ZIF G3/266 daughtercard. Anybody need one? >> >> Seth Lewin

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6085

by DBaker＠crt.xerox.com

hello, i was wondering if you ever got rid of your xerox 6085 & printer? =dave=

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Digi-Comp I re-issue viability; recent auctions; friendsofdigicom p

by TMcNerney＠chipwrights.com

On the topic of the viability of a Digi-Comp I re-issue... In the past three months, two kits have been put up for auction on eBay. One fetched over $421.50. Most recently, an usassembled kit went for $148.50 after 22 bids by 10 distinct bidders. I personally have always wished for a "version 2," with tighter tolerances, smoother action, and perhaps even 4 "flip-flops" instead of the standard 3. Brass or aluminum instead of plastic would add an especially nice touch. After all, who's wife is going to let her husband display a plastic computer in the living room? On the other hand, a nice polished brass model in a glass case... FYI, there is a YahooGroups group named "friendsofdigicomp" with 178 members. Oh, right.... So why am I posting to the Classic Computing mailing list? Because a ClassicCmp member wrote me to say: "One person I know has taken molds from his example and is planng on re-issuing it as a kit." Whoever you are, I thought you'd be interested in the present supply-and-demand situation. A limited run of 100 at $50 a piece would probably sell-out without too much effort. My impression is that the vast majority of the friendsofdigicomp group members -don't- have one anymore. (Mine got thrown away when we moved in 1971...) Regards, --Tim McNerney Newton, MA Postscripts... Recently someone submitted a schematic of the Digi-Comp I electronic equivalent to friendsofdigicomp. I believe you need to join the group to view this: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/friendsofdigicomp/files/DC1-PLA.pdf BTW, I have DXF format CAD models of all the plastic parts, but only in 2D. There are scans of the plastic parts and manuals at the YahooGroups site.

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Decwriter II available

by holmberg＠tiac.net

Hi, I have a Decwriter II that I want to pass along to whoever is willing to pick it up (my home is in North Andover, MA). This Decwriter II hasn't been used for years. This is a relatively heavy impact printer with a keyboard, on a metal stand, that takes wide continuous folded paper. It worked when I last used it, but has been sitting in the basement for a long time - no guarantees. There is a (headset) modem that goes with it. If there are no takers, I may have to junk it. However, if it is of use for anyone, I'd rather give it away. I'm not a member of this list, so please respond directly to me ASAP if there is any interest. Thanks, Carl holmberg at tiac dot net

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Recently scanned PDP-8/I schematics available

by root＠parse.com

Recent scans of my collection of 17"x22" PDP-8/I schematics are now available; many are different (newer) revision than others available on the web. http://www.parse.com/~pdp8/pdp8i/drawings.html There's a tarball so you can download the whole thing (11 Megs). Spozedly, these are 400 DPI scans, so they should be pretty reasonable quality. Cheers, -RK -- Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316. Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers!

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looking for......

by jwest＠kwcorp.com

HP 9122D floppy drive unit Anyone have one they're willing to trade? Jay West

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help! shugart 801

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > > I have several systems that use Shugart 800-1 SS 8" disk drives. I've >got several defective drives plus I've been wanting some spares. Last week >I picked up 10 Shugart model 801 SS drives. Today I tried to use them on >the same systems but I can't make them work. I've set all the jumpers and >straps exactly the same as in the 800-1 drives but the 801s aren't working. >The system knows the drive is there and detects the disk being in place and >rotating and that the drive door closed but the drive never gets the head >load signal. I'm using the same system, cables, power supply, etc with both >drives so the only difference is the drives themselves. I've tried a couple >of 801s and gotten exactly the same results with all of them so I don't >think that it due to a drive failure. Anybody have any experience with >these or have a good idea of what's wrong? > > Joe > Hi Joe You do know that some of the drives have data separators. I forget which numbers have this and which don't. I don't recall if the 800-1's had them or not. If you are using these for M2FM, is seems that I remember that the bandwidth was slightly increase on these drives. As I recall, there was a capacitor change in the pre-amps. Those are the only things I can think of. Dwight

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scanning booklets for archive

by cb＠mythtech.net

I finally have a scanning system setup here for archiving documents. Does anyone have a good idea of how to deal with booklets? That is, items that are printed on 8.5x11 paper, then folded over and stapled. RIght now, I have been opening the booklet to the center, removing the paperclip, then cutting the booklet in half down the spine, and scanning the first half as double sided then the 2nd half as double sided in order to keep the pages in order. (obviously I'm concerned with multipage booklets) This is fine, for things that are headed to the trash after scanning, but for things I might want to hang on to, I don't really want to cut the booklet in half. Is there any recommendations on how best to keep the pages in order? What do others do? Or does everyone either leave them in printed bound order for later reprinting (which means in the wrong order for reading in a PDF, booklet printed order for a 12 page booklet would be 1/12, 2/11, 3/10 and so on) or do things the hard manual way by scanning to image, and cutting the image up into the right parts before going to PDF (right now I am doing things the lazy way and scanning directly into Acrobat so I'm never touching the raw image). Suggestions? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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help! shugart 801

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > >At 09:26 AM 7/22/03 -0700, you wrote: >>>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> >>> >>> I have several systems that use Shugart 800-1 SS 8" disk drives. I've >>>got several defective drives plus I've been wanting some spares. Last week >>>I picked up 10 Shugart model 801 SS drives. Today I tried to use them on >>>the same systems but I can't make them work. I've set all the jumpers and >>>straps exactly the same as in the 800-1 drives but the 801s aren't working. >>>The system knows the drive is there and detects the disk being in place and >>>rotating and that the drive door closed but the drive never gets the head >>>load signal. I'm using the same system, cables, power supply, etc with both >>>drives so the only difference is the drives themselves. I've tried a couple >>>of 801s and gotten exactly the same results with all of them so I don't >>>think that it due to a drive failure. Anybody have any experience with >>>these or have a good idea of what's wrong? >>> >>> Joe >>> >> >> >>Hi Joe >> You do know that some of the drives have data separators. >>I forget which numbers have this and which don't. I don't recall >>if the 800-1's had them or not. If you are using these for >>M2FM, is seems that I remember that the bandwidth was slightly >>increase on these drives. As I recall, there was a capacitor >>change in the pre-amps. >> Those are the only things I can think of. >>Dwight >> > > You may be right but the head isn't even loading so I'm not even getting >that far. I have a Shugart 800/801 manual but it's vague about the >differences between the two. But IIRC the 801 is designed to handle hard >sectored disk and the 800 doesn't. I'm wondering if the index pulse >detection circuit is different and may be causing a not ready condition or >something similar. (Yes I know I can check it with a logic probe but I >didn't have one where the machines are located so I havne't done that yet.) > > Joe > Hi Joe I missed that about the head not loading. Is the drive getting a head load signal or is the controller waiting for some status line from the drive? That would be the first place to look. There may be slight differences in the gating of these signals at the drive. I wouldn't think that the index pulse would cause troubles but you never know. On either drive, you should see index pulses. I'd have to dig out my manual to be able to help any more than that. Dwight

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FS: RARE black Bell & Howell Apple ][ Plus with drives

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> > >I agree with Sellam (get the record books out) *grin* > >I keep seeing them listed on ebay as "K-RAD K00L RAAAARE Black Bell & Howell >Apple"... sheesh... while I do not have one, I have seen lots and lots of them >both in the wild and in collectors hands. They don't seem particularly rare to >me. > >Jay West > Hi Rare and valuable are two different things. I have some rare computers that many would just grunt at if they saw them for sale at some swap meet. Things like Apple-1's have significant history as well as being rare. This enhances value ( way beyond any reasonable level ). Still, if you are one of those that is making a complete set of a particular type of machine, tracking down the unusual ones can be an issue. Just don't tell the seller he has something you really, REALLY, need. Some Beany Babies are quite rare. I wouldn't give you 10 cents for any of them. Some computers are quite rare. You'd have to pay me to take some of them away. Some rare machines are interesting because they are unusual. Others have no special attributes like some of the Cromemco S-100 work horses. There must be hundreds of variations of these, making each rare. They are still fine machines and worth saving but they have no special monetary value even though rare. Dwight

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PDP-8/I EAE drawings

by wrljet＠yahoo.com

Does anyone know if drawings for the PDP-8/I EAE option are scanned and on the web someplace? Bill

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Plustek scanner manuals

by cb＠mythtech.net

Anyone want the manuals from a pair of Plustek scanners? These are from a pair of sheet feed scanners that I tossed a while back. I lacked the interface card for them, and couldn't find one, nor a taker for the scanners, so they went into the trash. I now have the two manuals from them. I also have a single floppy disk marked Scanner Utility that is in the bag with one of the manuals. Anyone want them before they get tossed as well (although now that I can scan manuals, they will get split in two, scanned, THEN tossed. And the disk will be imaged and archived... but before I ruin the manuals by cutting them down the spine, I want to make sure no one wants them intact) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Canon Cat (was: Cannon Cat

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi I did a search for "canon cat" with google in the news groups and found the trick to enable Forth on the Cat. There was a note from Derek Peschel that discribed it well enough that I was able to figure it out. It has two Forth modes. One uses the Forth engine to calculate things from the text of on the page. The next level of mode drops you into a Forth interpreter. It seems to take most Forth commands but I tried things like vlist and words but these were not part of the vocabulary. I'd like to see what its vocabulary is but it may not have a word defined to do this. It does have such words as C@ and @ as well as it compiles new words. This means I can do some exploring. I didn't try it but I think I can even use the text input as source from the first level. Dwight

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scanning booklets for archive

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

If I need to do this, I make a copy of the book using a copier at work. Many better copiers have a "book copy" mode where the spine is centered along the center line of the scanning bed and the copier automatically copies both pages. At the end, some page re-sorting has to be done, but that's it. Then, I stack the pages on my 5200Csi with a document feeder attachment and let Acrobat scan them. -----Original Message----- From: chris [mailto:cb@mythtech.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:47 AM To: Classic Computer Subject: scanning booklets for archive I finally have a scanning system setup here for archiving documents. Does anyone have a good idea of how to deal with booklets? That is, items that are printed on 8.5x11 paper, then folded over and stapled. RIght now, I have been opening the booklet to the center, removing the paperclip, then cutting the booklet in half down the spine, and scanning the first half as double sided then the 2nd half as double sided in order to keep the pages in order. (obviously I'm concerned with multipage booklets) This is fine, for things that are headed to the trash after scanning, but for things I might want to hang on to, I don't really want to cut the booklet in half. Is there any recommendations on how best to keep the pages in order? What do others do? Or does everyone either leave them in printed bound order for later reprinting (which means in the wrong order for reading in a PDF, booklet printed order for a 12 page booklet would be 1/12, 2/11, 3/10 and so on) or do things the hard manual way by scanning to image, and cutting the image up into the right parts before going to PDF (right now I am doing things the lazy way and scanning directly into Acrobat so I'm never touching the raw image). Suggestions? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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scanning booklets for archive

by cb＠mythtech.net

>If I need to do this, I make a copy of the book using a copier at work. Many >better copiers have a "book copy" mode where the spine is centered along the >center line of the scanning bed and the copier automatically copies both >pages. At the end, some page re-sorting has to be done, but that's it. Come to think of it, my copier does offer that feature. Humm... I'll have to think about that. I just hate to generate MORE waste paper in order to go more paperless. Although if the item has enough value to me, then it will probably be worth it. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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scanning booklets for archive

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I scan them as double pages, and have some scripts I use with >GraphicConverter which splits them and resizes the page to 8.5 x 11 Oooh... wanna share the scripts? Although my scanner goes to a Win98 box, I don't object to transfering the files to my Mac for post processing (my scanner is a Logitech FreeScan sheet feed roll scanner... not the greatest unit in the world, but it was free and its working. I should really look at the cost of a sheet feeder for my flatbed Umax so I can go right to my Mac). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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scanning booklets for archive

by aek＠spies.com

> Does anyone have a good idea of how to deal with booklets? I scan them as double pages, and have some scripts I use with GraphicConverter which splits them and resizes the page to 8.5 x 11

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Fujitsu (Fuji) Eagle manuals

by cheri-post＠web.de

Hi, Al, thanks alot to you as well ! I was still searching for the manuals of the M2333K drive, when I found them on spies.com . Two Super Eagles are waiting to be connected but I need some manuals of these either. My question: Are there essential differences between the Eagle - and the Super Eagle drives (M2351 vs. M2361) ? Could I use the docs for the M2351 to set the jumpers or should I wait until I get the correct manuals ? By the way: I got the service manual for the PRIAM V130/V150/V170/V185 drives 4 months ago and manuals for the CENTURY DATA Trident T200/T300 and T25/T50/T80 drives (I'm not sure, if the numbers are correct, I'll have to look it up the next weekend). Currently, I do not have the time to scan them as I'm writing exams but if anybody is interested, I could scan them in the comming months. Pierre > > Al, > > >> What I didn't see was if the manuals were ever scanned and made > >>available/on-line. > > > >www.spies.com/aek/pdf/fujitsu/B03P-4655-0001A_2351_Dec84.pdf > > Once again, you're right on top of things! Thanks so much. > > John ______________________________________________________________________________ Wo gibt es den besten Spam-Schutz? Computerbild 15-03 sagt bei WEB.DE FreeMail - Deutschlands beste E-Mail - http://s.web.de/?mc=021123

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dos 1.0

by Edward.Tillman＠valero.com

This one shows up on e-Bay from time to time, but at outrageous prices... -sigh- Cheers... Ed Tillman Store Automation Tech Support Specialist Valero Energy Corporation San Antonio, Texas, USA Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048 Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com> -----Original Message----- From: Karl Paul [mailto:karlpaul36@hotmail.com] I'm looking for the dos 1.0 manual and binder. I have the disk and nothing else. Anyone out there have a manual and binder they would like to sell? Karl _________________________________________________________________

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Token ring (UK)

by nedry＠mail.bedlambells.com

Where I work (in the UK) we have token ring. Great network, but 16meg is slow... even if you can load it up to 90% and still have it work. I have a Andrew MAU under my desk at home. Am going to set up my own token ring segment... only problem is, it is a US box, and wants 110 v. take Care, Mark ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Fred N. van Kempen" <waltje(a)pdp11.nl> Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 08:20:27 +0200 (CEST) >On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 ghldbrd(a)ccp.com wrote: > >> I have a box full of token-ring adapters, IBM new in the box, and can't >> find a nibble here in the States. I've been told that token ring >> netowrking is an IBM only system, and requies an IBM server to play. >Nah. Although they ended up being the only ones still holding on to >it, TR was, at one point, a fairly widely-used topology, especially >in areas where network delay was an issue. 4Mbps TR was faster than >10Mbps Ethernet, when under heavy load, simply because TR avoids the >collapsing of throughput when the number of collisions goes up (on >Ethernet).

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Docs

by mail.list＠analog-and-digital-solutions.com

A professor in the physics department at William and Mary college needs docs for the LeCroy 8901A gpib camac crate controller. I have one of the modules, but it's only docs he needs, which I do not have, yet. http://www.physics.wm.edu/ If anyone has these, and wants to help him out, let me know and I'll forward his contact info. > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:09:07 -0400 > Subject: LeCroy 8901A Manual Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Do you have a manual ( or a photocopy thereof ) for a LeCroy 8901A gpib camac crate controller? > Thanks

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Using a Mac mono monitor with PC VGA

by cb＠mythtech.net

>One interesting question, >does Windows have a profile for that monitor? I know I've seen other >Apple monitors listed, but I haven't played with a desktop PC in a >while. I don't remember the model's off the top of my head, but at least one Apple monitor that shipped for the LC series Macs was a VGA monitor NOT an RGB. Right down to the 15 pin high denisty VGA connector... Apple supplied an RGB to VGA adaptor to use their own monitor! That might very well be the model(s) listed with Windows profiles. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Canon Cat (was: Cannon Cat

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi A quick check of "canon cat" lead me into THE ( The Human Interface ). Interesting stuff and some what on topic as it is related to early Mac development. Dwight >From: "Fred Cisin" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> > >> >Nevertheless, if you try to do any searching for info, you might get more >> >results if you spell it "CANON" instead of "CANNON". > >On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Dwight K. Elvey wrote: >> Wow Fred! You are great. I wondered why I got so few :) >> Spelling is not one of my best attributes. >> Dwight > >I try to avoid hassling people about speling (for fear that >somebody might start pointing out how many misteaks I make). >But I will post a correction if it is for proofing a document, >or where the error might interfere with information retrieval, >or if it is particularly funny. > >-- >Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin(a)xenosoft.com

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FA: Motorola Powerstack E PowerPC

by florit＠unixville.com

Hi everyone, I've got a rare, almost borderline classic-cmp system that is very interesting up for auction on ebay. I'm hoping a gentle soul will take it in and give it some play time. Pictures of the boombox stereo looking system: http://www.hudat.com/~florit/20030624-MotorolaPowerstack/ Getting to the mid-90s there was a lot of evolution in processor designs taking place; there was a question as to which company would lead the way into the future; some big players at the time were MIPS, Digital's Alpha, The IBM/Motorola/Apple consortium led PowerPC, and of course, Intel's x86 line. There was plenty of doubt at the time, because Microsoft, who was just then putting out Windows NT 4, supported all of these processors! We all know how the face off ended up. The system I have here is a Motorola Powerstack. It is super rare, I've only seen one other on ebay in 3 years. Its in great shape. I can run a myriad of operating systems: IBM's AIX, WinNT 4, Linux PPC and aparently a beta version of Solaris 2.5 for PowerPCs. As I understand, this system runs the PReP Openfirmware (replaces functions of PC's Bios is a more clean manner). Its called a PowerStack because you can add drive chassis by stacking them on top and adding power and scsi chain cables. In effect, you can make this a low profile computer by removing the section that contains the dat drive, currently. Motorola PowerPC 603e, 100mhz, 64MB ram. SCSI is onboard SCSI-2, with two one inch high removable media device bays, one one inch high non-removable bay for disk, and the scsi expansion enclosure. This particular model is loaded with a thin profile CDROM, floppy drive, 4 gig harddrive, and DAT tape drive (unknown size; 1 or 2g?). It has all kinds of interesting ports on the backside. Video is on a PCI card (Cirrus Logic?), and audio is onboard. There are three PCI slots on a riser board. This system is in distinguished company: It has an actual removable key to start and stop the system. I'm including the system manual, very useful to find out how to assemble/dissasemble the system to get to the insides. Included are the cables to connect the expansion bay scsi. I will also ship the original copy of Sun Solaris 2.5 Beta that was inside the Powerstack when I got it and the CDs with the debian linux ppc I was planning to install. I did not complete the install of debian linux, so it does not boot into the OS; there are some configuration issues to work out- I'd recommend a fresher and newer version of Debian anyhow, as this one is at least 3 years old. Here's the auction link, if you think you're interested: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2742423893&category=4610 If you have any questions, please ask away.

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eBay rescue

by melamy＠earthlink.net

a follow up to my first message is that any docs I get will be available as pdf files for free to anyone that needs them. I am not sure what will come with it, but I will let the group know. best regards, Steve >--- Original Message --- >From: "Steve Thatcher" <melamy(a)earthlink.net> >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Date: 7/21/03 3:15:07 PM > it won't make it to the dump. I live in Fredericksburg, VA and >I will pick the system up unless somebody else here in VA wants >it real bad. > >best regards, Steve Thatcher > >>--- Original Message --- >>From: "Erik Klein" <classiccmp(a)vintage-computer.com> >>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >>Date: 7/21/03 1:12:20 PM >> >I hope that there is a list member in the area of Sterling Virginia >who >>is willing to "rescue" the IMS 8000 machine being sold in the >auction >>referenced below. The seller states that "If there are no bids, >the >>machine and disks will be taken to the Loudoun County, Virginia > >>landfill." >> >>Here's a link to the auction: >> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? >>ViewItem&item=2743455193&category=4193 >> >>Considering the volume of stuff it would be a shame to see it >lost like >>that. >> >>For those not interested in hitting eBay, I've copied the auction >text >>below: >> >>IMS 8000 S-100 computer system >> >>This computer has a Z-80 processor, 64KB (128KB?) of RAM, and >dual half- >>height 8" DSDD floppy drives. The 8" drives were replaced about >5 years >>ago; the machine has seen little use since then. >>Some assorted spare boards are included, as are about 500 floppies > >>including master disks for CP/M, CP/M Plus, MP/M, PL/I, and >lots of >>other software. >> >>A manual is included, and notebooks containing BIOS listings >and notes >>on drivers. >> >>Industrial Micro Systems made systems of legendary reliability, >and >>this machine, over 20 years old, is no exception. I used it >a couple of >>months ago, and it worked perfectly. >> >>However, I'm short of space, so this piece of equipment needs >a new >>home fast. It is large and heavy, with wooden sides and a steel > >>chassis. I will not even attempt to ship it. The auction winner >must >>pick it up in Sterling, Virginia. If there are no bids, the >machine and >>disks will be taken to the Loudoun County, Virginia landfill. >> >>Please note: I have nothing to do with this auction, the seller >or the >>merchandise. I am just trying to prevent the loss of an interesting > >>artifact. >> >>If someone is local and can pick it up but isn't interested >in keeping >>it, I _might_ be able to pay for shipping (at great risk to >my health - >>my next computer might be my last if my wife follows through >on her >>threats! :) >> >> Erik Klein >> www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum >> The Vintage Computer For

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HP9000/300 Computers, CS80 Disks and Windows

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 11:09 AM 7/16/03 -0700, you wrote: >Hello, > >I am new to the list. > >My classic computer collection is mainly DEC but I >must use "classic" HPs at work. Hence my current >problem. > >We have multiple HP9000/300 computers connected via SRM >to a HP9826 computer running SRM ver 3.12. We also >have several standalone Viper board based PCs. Hi Max, I have a pile of vipers too. I've hooked up one of them and played with it but never got around to doing anything serious with them. I've been collecting HP 9000 200 and 300s for several years and have a good size pile of them along with the disk drives and other bits and pieces. > >My current problem is that one of the hard drives >attached to the HP9826 has died. It was a HP7937 HP-IB >drive. I believe it was a CS80 device. A 7937? Are you sure that's the right model number? I don't recognize it and it's not in my configuration book. (I'm too tired/lazy to go dig through the catalogs.) I have backups >made with a HP9144 tape drive. > >We could buy a refurbished drive. We were quoted $1300 >for a HP7937. I would like to avoid that. Since I only >need a few files from the backup and my application >could run from the Viper board, if I could get the >files into a MS-DOS format, my problem would be solved. I quess you don't know that you CAN boot from a 9144. I read in one of the HP manuals that you could but they said that they don't recommend it except in cases of emergencies. I had plenty of 9144s and tapes and wasn't worried about wearing them out so I tried it and it worked! It took about 15 minutes instead of 5 seconds, but it worked! Also do you HAVE to have a 7937? I have some 7957s, 7958, 9153s and other CS-80 drives. > > >I looked through the archives and ran across a thread >"HP storage formats on ss80 protocol disks". It seems >work has begun on a Windows program to read at least >LIF volumes attached to a NI-GPIB board. I have acess >to such. > >The files are RMB ver 5.13 files. The drive that died >was not the boot device. ???? If the dead drive isn't the boot device then why can't you boot and then read the files from the tape? Then just dunp it over a null MODEM cable to a PC or other computer of your choice. Or you can put it on a floppy disks and use the LIF Utils to read that into a PC. The LIF Utils are now public domain and can be downloaded from several places on the net including from HP. > >Couple of questions: >1) What format is the SRM backups in? LIF? HFS? Other? AFIK backups aren't in any specail or compressed format. They're in the same format as the operating drives. I've neve rused the SRM OS so I don't know what format it uses but if you do a CAT of a drive it will tell you at the top of the listing what the format is. >2) Peter Brown, would you share your software? I'm sure that he will share it but it's not going to help much. It just does a raw data dump. It doesn't care about directories, sub-directories, file allocation or anything else. it just starts at sector 1 bit 1 and dumps the entire drive. Joe > >I am also open to other suggestions. If you have a >HP7937 drive or similar, we can talk. Either purchase >or trade. We have a spare HP9826 computer with a dead >display along with extra HP9000/300 computers. > > >Thanks >Max

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help! shugart 801

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I have several systems that use Shugart 800-1 SS 8" disk drives. I've got several defective drives plus I've been wanting some spares. Last week I picked up 10 Shugart model 801 SS drives. Today I tried to use them on the same systems but I can't make them work. I've set all the jumpers and straps exactly the same as in the 800-1 drives but the 801s aren't working. The system knows the drive is there and detects the disk being in place and rotating and that the drive door closed but the drive never gets the head load signal. I'm using the same system, cables, power supply, etc with both drives so the only difference is the drives themselves. I've tried a couple of 801s and gotten exactly the same results with all of them so I don't think that it due to a drive failure. Anybody have any experience with these or have a good idea of what's wrong? Joe

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dos 1.0

by karlpaul36＠hotmail.com

I'm looking for the dos 1.0 manual and binder. I have the disk and nothing else. Anyone out there have a manual and binder they would like to sell? Karl _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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Canon Cat (was: Cannon Cat

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Wow Fred! You are great. I wondered why I got so few :) Spelling is not one of my best attributes. Dwight >From: "Fred Cisin" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> > >On Mon, 21 Jul 2003, Dwight K. Elvey wrote: >> Oops! Suppost to be for Al Kossow. I should look at >> the reply to lines. >> Dwight > >Nevertheless, if you try to do any searching for info, you might get more >results if you spell it "CANON" instead of "CANNON". > > > > >> >From: "Dwight K. Elvey" <dwightk.elvey(a)amd.com> >> > >> >Hi Al >> > I finally got time to play with the Cannnon Cat. >> >It powers up just fine and seems to run the disk >> >OK as well. The battery is dead but that doesn't >> >seem to be an issue. >> > I fiddled with it some and found that if I hold >> >the button in the back down during power up, it >> >goes into the diagnostics. I know there is a way >> >to cause it to go to the Forth prompt but I don't >> >recall how it was done. If I can find a fellow named >> >John Bumbgardener ( sp? ), he knows all of the tricks >> >for these. >> >Dwight

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Cannon Cat

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Oops! Suppost to be for Al Kossow. I should look at the reply to lines. Dwight >From: "Dwight K. Elvey" <dwightk.elvey(a)amd.com> > >Hi Al > I finally got time to play with the Cannnon Cat. >It powers up just fine and seems to run the disk >OK as well. The battery is dead but that doesn't >seem to be an issue. > I fiddled with it some and found that if I hold >the button in the back down during power up, it >goes into the diagnostics. I know there is a way >to cause it to go to the Forth prompt but I don't >recall how it was done. If I can find a fellow named >John Bumbgardener ( sp? ), he knows all of the tricks >for these. >Dwight

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eBay rescue

by melamy＠earthlink.net

it won't make it to the dump. I live in Fredericksburg, VA and I will pick the system up unless somebody else here in VA wants it real bad. best regards, Steve Thatcher >--- Original Message --- >From: "Erik Klein" <classiccmp(a)vintage-computer.com> >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >Date: 7/21/03 1:12:20 PM > I hope that there is a list member in the area of Sterling Virginia who >is willing to "rescue" the IMS 8000 machine being sold in the auction >referenced below. The seller states that "If there are no bids, the >machine and disks will be taken to the Loudoun County, Virginia >landfill." > >Here's a link to the auction: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? >ViewItem&item=2743455193&category=4193 > >Considering the volume of stuff it would be a shame to see it lost like >that. > >For those not interested in hitting eBay, I've copied the auction text >below: > >IMS 8000 S-100 computer system > >This computer has a Z-80 processor, 64KB (128KB?) of RAM, and dual half- >height 8" DSDD floppy drives. The 8" drives were replaced about 5 years >ago; the machine has seen little use since then. >Some assorted spare boards are included, as are about 500 floppies >including master disks for CP/M, CP/M Plus, MP/M, PL/I, and lots of >other software. > >A manual is included, and notebooks containing BIOS listings and notes >on drivers. > >Industrial Micro Systems made systems of legendary reliability, and >this machine, over 20 years old, is no exception. I used it a couple of >months ago, and it worked perfectly. > >However, I'm short of space, so this piece of equipment needs a new >home fast. It is large and heavy, with wooden sides and a steel >chassis. I will not even attempt to ship it. The auction winner must >pick it up in Sterling, Virginia. If there are no bids, the machine and >disks will be taken to the Loudoun County, Virginia landfill. > >Please note: I have nothing to do with this auction, the seller or the >merchandise. I am just trying to prevent the loss of an interesting >artifact. > >If someone is local and can pick it up but isn't interested in keeping >it, I _might_ be able to pay for shipping (at great risk to my health - >my next computer might be my last if my wife follows through on her >threats! :) > > Erik Klein > www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum > The Vintage Computer Foru

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eBay rescue

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

I hope that there is a list member in the area of Sterling Virginia who is willing to "rescue" the IMS 8000 machine being sold in the auction referenced below. The seller states that "If there are no bids, the machine and disks will be taken to the Loudoun County, Virginia landfill." Here's a link to the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&item=2743455193&category=4193 Considering the volume of stuff it would be a shame to see it lost like that. For those not interested in hitting eBay, I've copied the auction text below: IMS 8000 S-100 computer system This computer has a Z-80 processor, 64KB (128KB?) of RAM, and dual half- height 8" DSDD floppy drives. The 8" drives were replaced about 5 years ago; the machine has seen little use since then. Some assorted spare boards are included, as are about 500 floppies including master disks for CP/M, CP/M Plus, MP/M, PL/I, and lots of other software. A manual is included, and notebooks containing BIOS listings and notes on drivers. Industrial Micro Systems made systems of legendary reliability, and this machine, over 20 years old, is no exception. I used it a couple of months ago, and it worked perfectly. However, I'm short of space, so this piece of equipment needs a new home fast. It is large and heavy, with wooden sides and a steel chassis. I will not even attempt to ship it. The auction winner must pick it up in Sterling, Virginia. If there are no bids, the machine and disks will be taken to the Loudoun County, Virginia landfill. Please note: I have nothing to do with this auction, the seller or the merchandise. I am just trying to prevent the loss of an interesting artifact. If someone is local and can pick it up but isn't interested in keeping it, I _might_ be able to pay for shipping (at great risk to my health - my next computer might be my last if my wife follows through on her threats! :) Erik Klein www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum The Vintage Computer Forum

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Tektronix storage display/terminal manual

by mhstein＠canada.com

Seems to me I read about someone acquiring a Tektronix storage display terminal; I had one of those years ago with ambitious plans to turn it into a storage scope which never came to anything, so out to the curb it went. However, a friend who worked at Tek at the time was kind enough to obtain a service manual and some spare boards for me (alas, the CRT was defunct) and, although the boards are probably gone, I believe I still have the manual somewhere, so if anybody needs one, send me the model number off-list and I'll try to find it and see if maybe that's the one. No promises though :) Also a binder of TekNotes from the 70's somewhere. (I think I promised it to Sellam many moons ago, but I'm sure he won't mind if I make a copy; besides, this would give me extra incentive to look for it). Almost two years ago I sent a stack of IBM unit record equipment manuals and wiring diagrams to someone (who shall remain nameless - you know who you are :) with the understanding that he would make them available on the Web; if they are, I haven't found them (and my apologies), but now I'm reluctant to give away fairly rare original manuals. m

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IBM Displaywriter

by art＠gardnerbusiness.com

Jim Kearney, I would like to purchase an IBM Displaywriter. Can you help? Thanks Arthur S. Gardner Gardner Business Services 866-321-6611

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Mac G5 / moving to OS X

by sml49＠comcast.net

>> If your a current mac user the g5 WILL be alot faster then what you > have, >> if your an Intel user I dont see a rush to buy anything made by apple. > If >> your a unix geek you might want a G5 just to say you own one and make >> fellow geeks unworthy of your presence. > >> The funny thing is mac users who laugh at PC guys upgrading their > hardware >> every year are now doing the same thing, except its alot more costly > for >> them buying complete new machines while PC users just chuck the >> motherboard/ram/video card in their old rig. This upgrade cycle of >> hardware will eventually kill the mac market because only the very > rich >> can keep up. What percentage of mac owners are using OSX? What > percentage >> will upgrade to a current OSX running machine anytime soon? That's not quite the case. Macs have a considerably longer useful life than PCs, generally, and are indeed upgradeable. I just took my January 1999 model Blue G3/400 desktop, swapped the 8.5 GB Ultra2Wide SCSI disk subsystem for a fast 200 gig Maxtor and an ATA 133 card, slipped in an 800 mhz G3 CPU daughtercard and installed a Radeon 7000 instead of the OEM Rage 128 and a LiteOn 52x CDROM instead of the old Matushita 24x (I already have an external 1394 burner) and a Kensington 3-button Studio Mouse. Runs OS 10.26 like a charm. Sure a G5 would be faster but this setup handles a heavy duty OS10.26 without any strain, web pages render in a flash etc. Plus this one will still boot OS9 directly and I can use my old ADB keyboard of which I'm fond. I figure on getting a year or two more out of this machine by which time I may just buy a laptop and use the G3 for a file and web server. I would've LIKED a new machine, but didn't NEED one. Of the four households in this immediate family 3 are on OS X; only my 87 year old father in law doesn't want to upgrade his 1998 rev A iMac and install it. That's 75% penetration. Also the G3/400 daughtercard I removed is now installed in what was formerly a Beige G3/266 I keep at work as a scanning station. That leaves me with a spare ZIF G3/266 daughtercard. Anybody need one? Seth Lewin

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OT-- need plans for a wireless switch

by nerdware＠ctgonline.org

I'm posting this here because, on the average, you guys are pretty smart. I'm trying to put a push-to-talk switch on the steering wheel of my car so I can key the 2-meter ham radio while keeping both hands on the wheel. I've got a little boom mic and have built an interface box, but how to mount the switch has me stumped. I picked up one of the velcro aircraft ptt buttons, which mounts nicely, but even with the relatively short turning radius of my Subaru it's still a good number of turns lock-to-lock and the coiled cord has a tendency to get snagged in the space between the wheel and steering column. My next thought is to use the aircraft button, but with a tiny transmitter/battery mounted on the wheel, with a receiver mounted under the steering column with a keying relay. Hit the button, the relay turns on, let up, the relay releases. I've been Googling for a while, but most tiny transmitters are either for "spy" audio apps, or are multi-button jobs for garage doors and things like that. All I need is a simple on/off fm transmitter that controls a simple relay on the receiver end, preferably powered by a couple of AA cells or similar, and the transmitter needs to be hackable so I can connect the wheel-mounted ptt switch. Any suggestions? I know this isn't directly related to Classiccmp, but it IS related to ham radio and electronics, and ham radio and electronics are related to hamfests, and hamfests attract computer collectors, so there. I just made the connection. Thanks. Paul Braun Cygnus Productions nerdware(a)ctgonline.org

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level0 backups...

by cvendel＠att.net

Hi. I have some tapes, marked /usr level0 unix backup vol1. They appear to have come from an 11/750 (or 780) running UCB Unix 4.1 around 83-84'ish I have tried some commercial PC/WIN software I've used in the past to look at them, but they are coming up unlabelled tapes. If I install some OpenBSD Unix on a spare drive, can I perform a restore >from this format and put the image into some subfolder??? Thanks, Curt

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Future uncollectable computers...

by cb＠mythtech.net

>My meager collection includes a Lisa and Next ... Watch the flashing light... your eye lids are growing heavier and heavier. You want to give me your Lisa, you want nothing more than that in the whole world. When I snap my fingers you will awaken and ship your Lisa to me. <snap> -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Why is it that it's so easy to kill time, yet so hard to make it?

by ian_primus＠yahoo.com

Argh! I have had almost zero free time as of late. I have been busy with work, and on top of that, I have been sick. I have way too many things going on at the moment and nothing seems to be getting done. I'm trying to get caught up on email and various other things. To all the people that wanted to buy something from the basement sale, don't worry, I haven't forgotten about you, although your request may be buried in several feet of spam at the moment. I have been attempting to get my workshop to a point where I can actually work, and get things ready to ship out. In the process of cleaning, I have found many interesting things, like, for instance, my workbench. And the floor. Also, I have another heap of things that I really don't need, and I'll post that list once I get previous requests taken care of. Also, I have acquired a couple of new things for my collection, but I haven't had the time or space to play with them yet. Anyway, sorry for my apparent disappearance from the face of the 'net, I'm trying to get caught up... Ian Primus ian_primus(a)yahoo.com

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Future uncollectable computers...

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

In the business sector, the depreciation schedules written into the tax codes provide an incentive to replace hardware every 2 or 3 years, whether or not said hardware needs replacing. Back on the topic of this thread: wouldn't _ANY_ computer become collectable at some point, even something like a Packard-Bell, as, say, an example of an early-1990's commodity PC? Not that everyone would want one in their collection. Among the slide rules I own and have used are nice laminated bamboo K&E and Post examples, but I also have a plastic "clone" and a simple wooden no-name model. Perhaps the thrust of the original question should be "future inoperable or unrepairable computers..." Bob -----Original Message----- From: R. D. Davis [mailto:rdd@rddavis.org] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:55 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Future uncollectable computers... <snip> Something about all of this upgrade mania makes no sense to me. Upgrading just for the sake of upgrading seems rather pointless. <snip>

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Interdata Model 70 on eBay

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

There is an Interdata Model 70 on eBay, which is going soon. I would be interested in this, but I am out of time, space, and money. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2741450706&category=1247 I have no affiliation with this auction, yada, yada, yada... --tom

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Cannon Cat

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Al I finally got time to play with the Cannnon Cat. It powers up just fine and seems to run the disk OK as well. The battery is dead but that doesn't seem to be an issue. I fiddled with it some and found that if I hold the button in the back down during power up, it goes into the diagnostics. I know there is a way to cause it to go to the Forth prompt but I don't recall how it was done. If I can find a fellow named John Bumbgardener ( sp? ), he knows all of the tricks for these. Dwight

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RL02 Terminators

by cvendel＠att.net

Anybody have any for sale, contact me: cvendel(a)att.net Curt

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SN94281?

by roger.williams＠nonin.com

Do you have any more of these chips?

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Old 7181 terminals

by Fred.Allen＠fujitsu.com.au

G'day Guys, just came across your query about 7181s. If you're still interested, here's some info:- These were an ICL-manufactured 2000 character text video terminal used for a variety of purposes in the early seventies. They were a replacement for the Cossor DIDS units. While later modules used new-fangled MOS memory, earlier models used a circular wire accoustic delay-line as the data storage element. In theory, this unit was in synch with the CRT scanning such that, as the electron beam reached a particular spot on the screen, the data for the character at that spot would just be appearing at the delay-line output. The speed of the data through the delay line was notoriously temperature sensative - a real problem in Australia if the air-conditioning broke down in summer! The spot scanning method was a little bizarre also - there were only 25 horizontal scans per frame but there was a small high frequency vertical scan component superimposed on the normal vertical scan, such during each of the 25 horizontal line scans, the beam 'painted' each character in that line character-by-character as it traversed the screen. ( Very different from the ~500+ pixel-line scan universally adopted by just about everyone else!. ) The keyboards were a parallel data design, and those fitted to the early 7181s were fitted with Hall-effect switch key modules ( I have a logic diagram of one of these somewhere! ) - a real "find" for the hobbyist! The 7181s on which I worked ( around 1972 ), talked across a synchronous V24 link to ICL System 4 mainframes. They used ICL's proprietary C03 protocol where multi-dropped terminals on one comms link could be individually polled for outstanding messages. Thus the operators were effectively entering data 'off-line' until they pressed the 'send' key, whereupon the next poll to that terminal would result in the date being transferred to the mainframe. Cheers Fred

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Apple Clone

by ptremewe＠bigpond.net.au

I have one of these Plastic cased Apples. One question I do have is what sort of keyboard they use. The keyboard conector on the mother board is wited directly to a nine pin serial socket on the back of the machine. Does it use the standard Apple II keyboard in a special case?? I seem to remember seeing info on how to wire an IBM keyboard to an apple some where. Can this be done for this machine?? Or am I mistaken. In spite of my small collection of Apple II parts I have never really taken much notice of these machines until recently when I have decided to do a "clean out" so advice on how to get this Apple in a more useable state would be apreciated...... Peter T. > Looking at the motherboard it looks like a generic Apple ][+ clone. Clones > based on the same motherboard were sold here (Australia) in XT style cases > like the one you have, smaller plastic desktop cases (floppy drives side by > side) and Apple ][ style cases with external drives. I've had all three > variants over time. I've seens ads for a luggable version with an internal > mono monitor, but I've never found one.

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Help Osborne drive B acting strange!!!!

by mrathlon1700＠aaahawk.com

Hello I have a Osborne 1b and when a boot up to CP/M everything on the A: disks works .But when I try to switch to the B: drive I get a R/W error. But If I format a disk on the B drive or A drive it formats it then B drive works with the floppy I formated and all other software disks work. But when I turn the osborne off and unplug it. after about 20 min unpluged I get the same error with drive B: and I have to the same thing. Is there a any fix for this? Thanks Casey.

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Motorola Powerstack E PowerPC

by florit＠unixville.com

Hi everyone, I've got a rare, almost borderline classic-cmp system that I found very interesting up for auction on ebay. I'm hoping a gentle soul will take it in and give it some play time. Pictures of the boombox stereo looking system: http://www.hudat.com/~florit/20030624-MotorolaPowerstack/ Getting to the mid-90s there was a lot of evolution in processor designs taking place; there was a question as to which company would lead the way into the future; some big players at the time were MIPS, Digital's Alpha, The IBM/Motorola/Apple consortium led PowerPC, and of course, Intel's x86 line. There was plenty of doubt at the time, because Microsoft, who was just then putting out Windows NT 4, supported all of these processors! We all know how the face off ended up. The system I have here is a Motorola Powerstack. It is super rare, I've only seen one other on ebay in 3 years. Its in great shape. I can run a myriad of operating systems: IBM's AIX, WinNT 4, Linux PPC and aparently a beta version of Solaris 2.5 for PowerPCs. As I understand, this system runs the PReP Openfirmware (replaces functions of PC's Bios is a more clean manner). Its called a PowerStack because you can add drive chassis by stacking them on top and adding power and scsi chain cables. In effect, you can make this a low profile computer by removing the section that contains the dat drive, currently. Motorola PowerPC 603e, 100mhz, 64MB ram. SCSI is onboard SCSI-2, with two one inch high removable media device bays, one one inch high non-removable bay for disk, and the scsi expansion enclosure. This particular model is loaded with a thin profile CDROM, floppy drive, 4 gig harddrive, and DAT tape drive (unknown size; 1 or 2g?). It has all kinds of interesting ports on the backside. Video is on a PCI card (Cirrus Logic?), and audio is onboard. There are three PCI slots on a riser board. This system is in distinguished company: It has an actual removable key to start and stop the system. I'm including the system manual, very useful to find out how to assemble/dissasemble the system to get to the insides. Included are the cables to connect the expansion bay scsi. I will also ship the original copy of Sun Solaris 2.5 Beta that was inside the Powerstack when I got it and the CDs with the debian linux ppc I was planning to install. I did not complete the install of debian linux, so it does not boot into the OS; there are some configuration issues to work out- I'd recommend a fresher and newer version of Debian anyhow, as this one is at least 3 years old. Here's the auction link, if you think you're interested: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2742423893&category=4610 If you have any questions, please ask away.

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Apple clone

by kenziem＠sympatico.ca

I was given an interesting machine on the weekend. I was told it was an Apple clone from Saudi Arabia. One of the manuals that came with it says micom, but it doesn't look like my other one which is in a apple II style case with the built in keyboard. This is in what from the front looks like a PC clone with the dual floppies, and an external keyboard which is missing. http://www.ncf.ca/~ba600/clone.jpg This time I set the camera to the lowest setting so the picture should be a little easier to view.

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sale of linux.net

by fisher＠fabric7.com

Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:20:21 +0100 (MET) From: "Fred N. van Kempen" <waltje(a)InfoMagic.NL> To: dwight(a)linuxtoday.com, lwn(a)lwn.net, lweditors(a)linuxworld.com, Subject: Re: Linux.net Hey guys, Just thought I'd drop you a note to let you know that I've finally sold the linux.net domain. It took a while (about 15 people have bid on the domain) to find someone who had plans to do something worthwhile with it, but that finally happened last week. I'm not allowed to tell you who actually bought the domain, because they apparently have some big announcement planned for LinuxWorld next week, but I can tell you this: It's *definitely not* Microsoft, and they're planning some cool & useful things for the site. Cheers, Fred -- Fred N. van Kempen, MCSE waltje(a)InfoMagic.NL InfoMagic Nederland VOF ICQ: 2944198 WWW: <http://www.infomagic.nl/~waltje>http://www.infomagic.nl/~waltje Postbus 1185, 1400 BD BUSSUM NL +31 (35) 6980059 FAX +31 (35) 6980215 UNIX, Windows NT BackOffice and Internetworking Consultants ---------------- I have been reading some of the code you wrote in the early 1990's, lib/getargs.c So doing a little google search turned up the attached message. Going to the www.linux.net web page turned up nothing of interest. May I ask Who bought the name from you and what WERE there plans? Seems that all has gone by the way-side. Thanks, -- Bill (fisher(a)fabric7.com -- Bill (fisher(a)fabric7.com)

22 years, 11 months

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HP Integral

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

Last week I purchased an HP Integral :-). For those who've not heard of it, it's a mains-powered portable with a 68000 processor that runs HP-UX :-). Of course I've taken it apart. There are 2 main PCBs, one each side of a vertically-mounted chassis plate. 'Logic A' on the rear of the plate contains the CPU, 512K RAM (and controller), the 'MMU' (a simple RAM mapping circuit), address decoders, bus buffers, and the HP-HIL port (for the keyboard and optional mouse). 'Logic B' on the front of the plate contains the real time clock, floppy controller, beeper (controller by an odd NatSemi sound chip, COP452 I think - -I have the datasheet), HPIB interface and the Thinkjet printer electronics (with a 1LB£ HPIL chip to link the Thinkjet CPU to the 68000 bus). Also in the case is a Sony full-height 600rpm 3.5" floppy drive, a SMPSU, the Thinkjet mechanics, a Sharp dot-matrix display and the expansion backplane (2 slots, using DIN41612 connectors). The system ROMs are in a plastic cartridge that plugs into the Logic A PCB. There's a PCB in said cartridge containing 4 EPROMS (128K bytes each) and a TTL glue chip. It's obvious a daughterboard containing another 4 EPROMs could be fitted in the cartridge. The EPORMs I have contain the HP-UX Kernel and PAM (a rather lusing shell). I am told daughterboards containing HP Technical BASIC (which I have on floppy) and some more unix commands existed. The 2 expansion slots on my machine contain a 1M RAM card and an interface for an external expansion chassis which I don't have. The latter has a 64 pin Blue Ribbon connector on it (I've never seen one this large!) which I guess is just a buffered version of the normal expansion bus. OK, a few questions. I asusem that ROM daugtherboards are impossible to obtain, but has anyone dumped the ROMS from one? Any ideas if it's ever possible to find the GPIO and serial interface cards for these machines? Any software out there on the net for it? I have the normal HP disk set (System disk, HP-UX commands (2 disks), Utilities, Diagnostics, Tutor, and NP Technical BASIC). Anything else I should know about it? -tony

22 years, 11 months

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TIFF to PDF (slightly OT, but for a good cause :-))

by root＠parse.com

I have the chance to pay some money and get my 17x22" PDP-8/I schematics scanned, but they only offer TIFF output. These will be scanned in 400 DPI mode and put on the web. These are a newer revision than the ones posted on the web. What I'd *really* like to do is convert them from TIFF to PDF and bind them into multi-page PDFs instead of the one-per-page TIFF files that I'll get >from the scanning house. Any volunteers? Suggestions for *free* software than runs on FreeBSD or, worst case, Windoze? Cheers, -RK -- Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316. Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers!

22 years, 11 months

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Future uncollectable computers...

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/17/2003 11:33:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rdd(a)rddavis.org writes: << Hopefully this isn't too off-topic, but a thought just occured to me about computers that some may, or may not, want to collect in the future, which aren't classics yet. >> One model that I used to support and I'd like to find would be the IBM Aptiva stealth model they made back in 1998/1999. I thought it was a neat idea to put the drives in a seperate enclosure below the monitor.

22 years, 11 months

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TIFF to PDF (slightly OT, but for a good cause :-))

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Get access to an Oc? 3165 with the scan2file option, or the newer model called DPS100. The machines scan at 52 A4-sized pages per minute at 600 dpi resolution. A3-sized runs at 23-26 pages/minute AFAIK. The output can be selected: either (multi-page) TIFF, or PDF, but the PDF files are *large* because they are TIFF with a PDF wrapper. Acrobat would make those big TIFF files a lot smaller in size, but then with CD-ROMs available, size only matters if you need to download from the 'Net. I could scan them to a number of PDF's described above, but you need to ship the doc to The Netherlands, and pay for the return shipment, if you want them back. And you do! I am only interested in PDP-11. If I start collecting -8's, I will definately run out of space as many of us, fighting the never-ending battle for more space. - Henk. > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Krten [mailto:root@parse.com] > Sent: donderdag 10 juli 2003 3:00 > To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: TIFF to PDF (slightly OT, but for a good cause :-)) > > > I have the chance to pay some money and get my 17x22" PDP-8/I > schematics > scanned, but they only offer TIFF output. These will be > scanned in 400 DPI > mode and put on the web. These are a newer revision than the > ones posted > on the web. > > What I'd *really* like to do is convert them from TIFF to PDF > and bind them > into multi-page PDFs instead of the one-per-page TIFF files > that I'll get > from the scanning house. > > Any volunteers? Suggestions for *free* software than runs on > FreeBSD or, worst > case, Windoze? > > Cheers, > -RK > > -- > Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316. > Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers!

22 years, 11 months

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M220B (PDP-8/I) schematics available

by root＠parse.com

For those of you who missed the announcement in alt.sys.pdp8, I've now almost completed the M220 version B schematic. It's available at: http://www.parse.com/~pdp8/pdp8i/m220b.html The trials and tribulations of the PDP-8/I restoration can be found at: http://www.parse.com/~pdp8/pdp8i/restore.html Plenty-o-dead 7474's in that one :-) Cheers, -RK -- Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316. Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers!

22 years, 11 months

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Using a Mac mono monitor with PC VGA

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

I recently picked a Macintosh High Res mono monitor (from a Macintosh II system) out of the trash. I'd like to use it with an old PC I have that has a VGA card. I've found a pinout for a VGA->Mac cable at www.technick.net, but I'm wondering if it will work with a mono Mac monitor, as opposed to a color one. TIA. Bob

22 years, 11 months

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IBM POWERstation 220 serial terminal

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

IBM RS/6000 information is here http://www-3.ibm.com/common/ssi/OIAccess query for 7011 Model Highlights 7011-220 * RS/6000 workstation with a POWER Single Chip processor. * 16MB to 64MB of memory, using standard PS/2* memory SIMMs with error checking and correction (ECC) for high reliability and availability * Optional internal fixed disk 200MB, 540MB, 1GB, and 2GB and optional internal 2.88MB diskette drive * Open system design: industry-standard memory, industry-standard integrated SCSI and Ethernet controllers, and two industry-standard Micro Channel slots, for additional growth capability * Dataless, diskless, LAN-attached, or stand-alone workstation * Disk storage expandable up to 9.5GB * Optional POWER Gt1 or Gt1b graphics adapter, including 1-bit graphics frame buffer (does not require a Micro Channel slot), is upgradable to 4-bit or 8-bit graphics * Optional POWER Gt1x graphics adapter for maximum 2D performance Discontinued 1995 _ Mike

22 years, 11 months

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what might this isa board do?

by james＠jfc.org.uk

i suppose it could be a plain old memory board, but 1992 seems very late for that (but still classic :-). the faceplate has two stickers, one for the serial number (1074) and the second has "HYPERTEC R9_BC HRAM CL EX SIMM". http://www.jfc.org.uk/misc/card-small.jpg [80 KB] http://www.jfc.org.uk/misc/card.jpg [432 KB] does anyone have any ideas about this card? -- J.F.Carter http://www.jfc.org.uk/

22 years, 11 months

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Need Osborne help with drives

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

22 years, 11 months

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plotter

by ktoker＠marmara.edu.tr

The broken gear is occured because of using thickker paper. This is true for this mechanism made by ALPS. You can fix it by using a cement which has two elements to combine and get rigit. Then the gear is permanently stabilize. Kenan

22 years, 11 months

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Varian Data Machines

by asholz＠topinform.com

Hello all, I got a Varian(Univac) Data Machines 620L100 in very good conditions including a fixed-head disk, a teletype and a Tektronix storage display. This machines is dated to 1974. I'm in the stage to reassemble to machine and to check the boards. I hope I'll be able to power on within the next weeks. Is there anyone on this list who has experiences with this type of machines? Andreas

22 years, 11 months

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PDP 8 for over $3000

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2738787795

22 years, 11 months

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Anybody on here do anything with the OLD intel IN-xxxx memories

by kklusend＠fatsinc.com

Hi Joe, I would be interested in your Intel IN-xxxx memory boards. Thanks, Kelvin Kelvin(a)synapticbrew.com

22 years, 11 months

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Plotter

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 18, 19:14, James Rice wrote: > I've used both products. In my previous life, I was an industrial > control contractor in food packaging plants. We used the Loctite stuff. > to stick polyurethane conveyor belts together as in a spliced loop. There are lots of types of Loctite, though, and the one for polythene and nylon isn't the same as the one for polyurethane. Polyurethane isn't nearly s hard to stick. > >There's a type of Loctite that does as well -- even sticks polythene. > > I can't remember the number, thugh. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 11 months

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HP Integral

by vp＠mcs.drexel.edu

ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote in cctalk-689: > Is this Tech BASIC ROM a plug-in card that goes into one of the expansion > slots, or a daughterboard in the OS cartridge, or what? Its a small board that attaches over the OS daughterboard. **vp

22 years, 11 months

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TRS-80 Mod I Video Display

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

I've got a TRS-80 Mod 1 with a bad display. There is a horizontal scan line in the center of the screen but no vertical sweep. Is anyone familiar enough with these displays to give me repair hints? Failing that, does anyone have a working one lying around that they'd part with? Thanks! Erik Klein www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum The Vintage Computer Forum

22 years, 11 months

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OT-- need plans for a wireless switch

by cb＠mythtech.net

>disconnect the horn and use its button Make sure you put a switch to toggle between horn and ham radio. I don't know about other states, but you can't pass vehicle inspections in NJ without a working horn. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 11 months

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Drive specs for Fujitsu m2682TAU

by kenziem＠sympatico.ca

it s at 350 meg drive, my copy of the hardware bible is bit too old, and all I get from google is places wanting to sell them. Does anyone have the CHS for this drive?

22 years, 11 months

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Plotter

by jrice54＠charter.net

I've used both products. In my previous life, I was an industrial control contractor in food packaging plants. We used the Loctite stuff. to stick polyurethane conveyor belts together as in a spliced loop. These belts ran at 2-300 ft per minute in a wet, oily, washdown environment (salad oil bottling plant) for months without a break. It was extremely expensive and the supply room checked it out and in. The clerk used to chase me down when I forgot to return the splice kit. The "cyanopoxy" stuff was used to build up delrin and teflon conveyor gudes when they wore through, until new ones could be machined out of block stock. I know it would stick a teflon gear together and would probably be stronger than the original gear. Just be careful and don't stick your fingers to the gear. You will have to remove the skin with a single edge razor blade...don't ask, trust me on this one. I can't remember how much it costs, but I'm sure it wasn't cheap. James >There is a product called "Cyanopoxy" that is like a two-part "super > > >glue" that can bond slippery plastics like delrin and molded nylon that >should work. It is fairly expensive, though. I haven't used it myself, >but I've read about it in the model railroad hobby press. > >There's a type of Loctite that does as well -- even sticks polythene. > I can't remember the number, thugh. Unfortunately it costs something >like UKP 35 for a tiny bottle (well, two bottles, actually, because it >comes with an activator). > -- http://webpages.charter.net/jrice54/classiccomp2.html

22 years, 11 months

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plotter

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Jul 18, 7:14, Feldman, Robert wrote: > There is a product called "Cyanopoxy" that is like a two-part "super glue" that can bond slippery plastics like delrin and molded nylon that should work. It is fairly expensive, though. I haven't used it myself, but I've read about it in the model railroad hobby press. There's a type of Loctite that does as well -- even sticks polythene. I can't remember the number, thugh. Unfortunately it costs something like UKP 35 for a tiny bottle (well, two bottles, actually, because it comes with an activator). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

22 years, 11 months

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Can anyone id these HP ICs?

by swperk＠earthlink.net

Hi Joe, The only reason that I can come up with for HP's construction techniques is that their IC's were made during the heyday of HP's own IC division. They overbuilt everything, probably because of reliability concerns. Other people certainly will know more about this than I do, but I think that HP was one of the earliest developers/fabricators of ECL. Thanks in advance for the manual! Regards, Stan Hi Stan, Thanks for the info. Any idea whey the fancy construction? I've dealt with ECL before but never seen anything like this. BTW I'm made copies of that memory board manual for you. It's packed and ready to ship. I'll try to drop it off at the post office today. Joe At 08:21 PM 7/17/03 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Joe, > >The 05370-60022 part number IDs this as the Arming Board from the HP 5370A/B >counter. The 1820-0753 is an ECL dual 3-input gate, the 1820-1999 is a >multiplexer, and the 1820-2000 is a D flip-flop. These are all ECL IC's, and >on each of them the two end pins are connected to the substrate and tied to >the -5.2 V bus. These two pins act as both power input and heat sinks for >the chip. > >Stan > >Message: 3 >Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:54:54 >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> >Subject: Re: Can anyone id these HP ICs? (Joe) >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > Bingo! You're right. It's part number is 05370-60022. I had tried to >look up that number but all I found was a scanner with the same PN. Do you >have a service manual for this? If so, can you tell me what these parts >are? PNs 1820-0753, 1820-2000 and 1820-1999. > > Joe > >At 10:55 AM 7/15/03 -0700, you wrote: >>Hi Joe, >> >>Your board looks like one of the interpolator cards from an HP 5370A >Universal Time Interval Counter. Do you see an "05370-6xxxx" part number on >the board anywhere? >> >> >>Message: 14 >>Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:52:26 >>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> >>Subject: Re: Can anyone id these HP ICs? >>Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >> >>Hi Ed, >> >> I posted a picture at >><http://home.cfl.rr.com/rigdon14/t-bird/hp-ic.jpg>. >>I unplugged the two ICs in the top RH corner and turned them over so that >>you can see the bottom and side of the ICs and the heat sink that the IC >>normally sits on. There is a depression in the bottom of the IC case and a >>rasied pad on the heatsink that fits into the depression. I've never seen >>anything like this before! Note the delay line (?) on the LH side of the >>card. Sorry I couldn't get a better picture. This is as close as I could >>get with my camera. >> >> Joe > >-- __--__-- --__--__--

22 years, 11 months

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HP Integral

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 09:08 PM 7/17/03 -0400, you wrote: >On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Tony Duell wrote: > >> > He has practically *all* the software for this machine. The only >> >> Alas much of it (C development stuff, etc) is still HP copyright and >> therefroe can't be distributed. > >How close is it to being considered abandonware by HP? I know for a fact that HP dropped support for these many years ago and literally threw out their remaining software/hardware/manuals/testers. I think we can safely say that they've abandoned it. BTW I have HP-IL cards, serial port cards, a combined serial port and memory card, Technical BASIC in ROM and even a Diagnostics ROM for the IPC. I think I have all or nearly all of the docs, software and manuals that they ever produced for it. And yes, the Tech BASIC ROM is made of standard parts. Joe

22 years, 11 months

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Future uncollectable computers...

by jforbes2＠mindspring.com

> One model that I used to support and I'd like to find would be the IBM Aptiva > stealth model they made back in 1998/1999. I thought it was a neat idea to > put the drives in a seperate enclosure below the monitor. 1996/97 maybe? Cluttering up my office/lab/computer room is an Aptiva 166mhz machine, with the neat black tower and black monitor with the drive pod below it. It's a non-upgradeable system, a gift to one of my kids from a grandparent, and has been replaced with a more modern generic pc. You should be able to find on on epay if you're patient. I want to save this one for the kid when he gets older he might want to have his first computer, with it's antique windows 95, cd rom drive (with no writing or dvd reading capability), and miniscule 2.5gb hard drive. At least it's almost stackable...the roundy styling had not set in yet. I have no idea what my dad will do with his Emac when it gets slow, perhaps it could turn into art, hang two of them on the wall (screen facing the wall) next to each other? -- Jim Visit the Selectric Typewriter Museum! http://www.mindspring.com/~jforbes2

22 years, 11 months

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Future uncollectable computers...

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 7/18/2003 2:07:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jforbes2(a)mindspring.com writes: > >One model that I used to support and I'd like to find would be the IBM > Aptiva > >stealth model they made back in 1998/1999. I thought it was a neat idea to > >put the drives in a seperate enclosure below the monitor. > > 1996/97 maybe? Cluttering up my office/lab/computer room is an Aptiva > 166mhz machine, with the neat black tower and black monitor with the > drive pod below it. It's a non-upgradeable system, a gift to one of my > kids from a grandparent, and has been replaced with a more modern > generic pc. You should be able to find on on epay if you're patient. I > want to save this one for the kid when he gets older he might want to > have his first computer, with it's antique windows 95, cd rom drive > (with no writing or dvd reading capability), and miniscule 2.5gb hard drive. > Yups, that sounds like it. 2159-Sxx series. Sound like yours is the first generation model with that cursed MWAVE modem. There was 2159-S80 and S90 models which were MMX, no MWAVE and slightly redesigned and much better IMO. -- Antique Computer Virtual Museum www.nothingtodo.org

22 years, 11 months

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OT-- need plans for a wireless switch

by cb＠mythtech.net

>D'ya know how to test the emissions of a VW converted to electric? >A friend of mine could not satisfy the DMV until he welded a piece of pipe >to the underside for the "tailpipe test" (aka "rectal probe") I had a similar problem with a convertable car. They failed me because I didn't have a roof on my car. Their claim was, they couldn't inspect the rear windows to make sure they weren't broken. I actually had to look up the laws and then bring the appropriate title back to the station with me to show that their is no requirement for having a roof on your car in NJ (you only need to have a windshield). Of course, I could have just put the roof back on my car, but I was much happier proving the idiots wrong. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 11 months

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OT-- need plans for a wireless switch

by dwightk.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Fred Cisin" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> > >On Fri, 18 Jul 2003, Mark Firestone wrote: >> I always wondered how they hooked up wiring to things that rotate, like >> helicopter blades. With brushes? > >by periodically running it in reverse to untwist the wires? Hi I'm not sure that they run wires to the blades of helicopers. If it is current caring wire, they most often use brushes. For signal lines and low power, rotory tansformers are common. For autos, it is either a wire or brushes. This depends on the manufactures choice. Both have relaibility issues. Dwight > >> >I'm trying to put a push-to-talk switch on the steering wheel of my >> >car so I can key the 2-meter ham radio while keeping both hands >> >on the wheel. I've got a little boom mic and have built an interface >> >box, but how to mount the switch has me stumped. > >disconnect the horn and use its button

22 years, 11 months

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Fujitsu (Fuji) Eagle manuals

by aek＠spies.com

> What I didn't see was if the manuals were ever scanned and made available/on-line. www.spies.com/aek/pdf/fujitsu/B03P-4655-0001A_2351_Dec84.pdf

22 years, 11 months

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Future uncollectable computers...

by cb＠mythtech.net

>It will make g4 machines dirt cheap as the herd sells them off to buy the >G5. And I'm hoping it will shove the price of used early iMacs even lower. Those things make GREAT office workstations. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 11 months

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Future uncollectable computers...

by cb＠mythtech.net

>and a good excuse to dump the dual G4 >I already own. ;-) Your excuse can be that you gave it to me :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

22 years, 11 months

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Can anyone id these HP ICs?

by swperk＠earthlink.net

Hi Joe, The 05370-60022 part number IDs this as the Arming Board from the HP 5370A/B counter. The 1820-0753 is an ECL dual 3-input gate, the 1820-1999 is a multiplexer, and the 1820-2000 is a D flip-flop. These are all ECL IC's, and on each of them the two end pins are connected to the substrate and tied to the -5.2 V bus. These two pins act as both power input and heat sinks for the chip. Stan Message: 3 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:54:54 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> Subject: Re: Can anyone id these HP ICs? (Joe) Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Bingo! You're right. It's part number is 05370-60022. I had tried to look up that number but all I found was a scanner with the same PN. Do you have a service manual for this? If so, can you tell me what these parts are? PNs 1820-0753, 1820-2000 and 1820-1999. Joe At 10:55 AM 7/15/03 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Joe, > >Your board looks like one of the interpolator cards from an HP 5370A Universal Time Interval Counter. Do you see an "05370-6xxxx" part number on the board anywhere? > > >Message: 14 >Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:52:26 >To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org >From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> >Subject: Re: Can anyone id these HP ICs? >Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > >Hi Ed, > > I posted a picture at ><http://home.cfl.rr.com/rigdon14/t-bird/hp-ic.jpg>. >I unplugged the two ICs in the top RH corner and turned them over so that >you can see the bottom and side of the ICs and the heat sink that the IC >normally sits on. There is a depression in the bottom of the IC case and a >rasied pad on the heatsink that fits into the depression. I've never seen >anything like this before! Note the delay line (?) on the LH side of the >card. Sorry I couldn't get a better picture. This is as close as I could >get with my camera. > > Joe --__--__--

22 years, 11 months

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plotter

by Robert_Feldman＠jdedwards.com

There is a product called "Cyanopoxy" that is like a two-part "super glue" that can bond slippery plastics like delrin and molded nylon that should work. It is fairly expensive, though. I haven't used it myself, but I've read about it in the model railroad hobby press. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Duell [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 5:51 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: plotter <snip> I've not found anything that will reliably stick to the plastic for said pinion. 2-pack epoxy resin adhesives (Araldite, etc) certainly don't. And no common plastic solvent disolves that plastic either. <snip> -tony

22 years, 11 months

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Cray Memorabilia

by mrjackson99_uk＠yahoo.co.uk

Interesting Cray memorabilia for sale on ebay (with pcitures). Check it out http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2742835004&ssPageName=… ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

22 years, 11 months

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Old Word Processors and Now

by cmurray＠eagle.ca

Well Mark, I'm still teaching word processing and the short cuts are CTRL-S and CTRL-L and I mention it most every day. I can remember using an Applewiter-clone and the formatting commands haven't chnaged. Why do away with things that work and make sense even if students forget them!!! I try not to scream though. Not good for a teacher. Murray > > Message: 9 > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:00:20 +0100 > To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > From: Mark Firestone <nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com> > Subject: Re: Old Word Processors > Reply-To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > I can still remember screaming at my father (I must have been 13 at time > time) "it's CTRL-S to save, and CTRL-L to load. How could they make it > simpler for you?" when he was trying to use Applewriter //e, a very nice, > full featured, non-WYSIWYG word processor. Good old . formatting commands.

22 years, 11 months

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Future uncollectable computers...

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

> > There is one microcomputer I would love to have. The Power Mac G5. > > Me too. Need some bucks though, and a good excuse to dump the dual G4 > I already own. ;-) Same here, I've finally gotten over my dislike of Mac OS X, and am *REALLY* liking it. Largely because it's got Unix underneath which means I can use it both as my Mac and as my Unix box. My G4/450 is one of the originals, and finally starting to feel a little old and slow (not bad considering it's almost 4 years old). Though my video card rocks, I bought an ATI Radeon 9000 for it :^) It's really nice running all my Adobe App's, MS Office, and Eudora on a system with Unix underneat! I *REALLY* want a dual G5, unfortunatly I'm not going to be able to get a G5 anytime soon :^( Still by the time I can get one they should be even better :^) Zane

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IBM POWERstation 220 serial terminal

by owen＠bardstown.com

Greetings, I have recieved an old IBM Model 7011-220. There is very little documentation, and IBM has no clue... I have no video adapter or monitor, can someone tell me the type (guessing Sun 13W3...) Also, can someone provide instructions on how to use this with the Linux term. program Minicom? And... *grimaces* anyone know HTH to get the cover off ;) TIA, Owen Marshall

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IBM Wheelwriter find Need Info

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Picked up a IBM Wheelwriter30 Series II today and was wondering if it can be used as a front-end input device?

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MT-80Z Micro Professor Manuals

by larry.washburn＠DTRA.MIL

Glen Noticed your posting about the missing manuals for the E&L z80 trainer. I am also in same boat, just won mine on ebay,,, minus manuals etc Did you ever locate any manuals, experimenter books for the unit? Larry

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HP Integral

by vp＠mcs.drexel.edu

In cctalk digest, Vol 1 #684 ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote: > I asusem that ROM daugtherboards are impossible to obtain, but has anyone > dumped the ROMS from one? > > Any ideas if it's ever possible to find the GPIO and serial interface > cards for these machines? > > Any software out there on the net for it? I have the normal HP disk set > (System disk, HP-UX commands (2 disks), Utilities, Diagnostics, Tutor, > and NP Technical BASIC). > > Anything else I should know about it? Check Pete Johnson's website dedicated to the IPC (http://www.coho.org/~pete/IPC/integral.html) He has practically *all* the software for this machine. The only bad ting I can say for the site is that the HPUX utilities work only on big-endian machines. I have written a converter tool (HPUX filesystem image to tar [1]) that is hopefully platform independent, and I will send it to him after I have tried it a bit to make sure that it is mostly bug free. [1] so you use it like hpux2tar image-file | tar tvf - ----- I think that the daughterboards have standard parts so it should be possible to create replacements. I have the BASIC sub-daughterboard so I can send you a dump of the BASIC ROMs if I can find where they are mapped into the 68K address space. I have used the IPC to access HP-IL peripherals via the HP-IB port (using the 82169A HP-IL/HP-IB Interface), and I think it would be trivial to write a short program to talk with computers over the HP-IL via the HP-IL serial interface. There is also a built-in HP-IL interface (to talk to the built-in ThinkJet), but it is directly connected to the ThinkJet without the transformers and (anyway) I have not found a way to address the ThinkJet using IL addressing (rather than the /dev/internal interface). **vp

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VAX 6360

by vance＠neurotica.com

Does anyone know the power burn on one of these babes without disk? Peace... Sridhar

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OT: Diamond video card for mac

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

I ran across a diamond Javelin Video card that has the mac video connector but looks like it might have the PC bios. My pm7500 wont recognise the card and the drivers cant find it either. Anybody have such a card or know if the bios is flashable? Of course the company that purchased diamond/s3 doesnt support these products anymore.

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Was: Commodore CBM/PET Now: Reply Trim Rant

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

> Hey Guyz - not to squelch List traffic, nor appear to be a > NetCop - but d'ya think it might be possible to try and > TRIM YER DAMN REPLY CASCADES???? <AOL> me too! </AOL> :-) (maybe that should have been in caps) > I mean, 152 lines of triple-posted reply threads, it's actually remarkably annoying in digest mode too. Seconded only by replies in which people top-post and include the entire original message, headers and all, but without any indentation characters... cheers Jules ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/

22 years, 11 months

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Fujitsu (Fuji) Eagle manuals

by dundas＠caltech.edu

There was a brief discussion here a little over a year ago regarding manuals for the M2351A Eagles. What I didn't see was if the manuals were ever scanned and made available/on-line. Tony or anyone know? I have two M2351As and would like to return them to operational status. Thanks, John

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updates...

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

some new updates on the catalog page: www.rdrop.com/~jimw Item 124 might get someones attention... Then there will be a slight break in the updates for a week or two while I get caught up with shipping, moving, and other localized annoyances... Thanks; -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw

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APTIVA RISER CARD

by dmb7443＠dctexas.net

HI I KNOW YOUR POSTING IS OLD BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD ASK IF YOU STILL HAVE THE APTIVA RISER CARD IBM # 11H8453 THANKS FOR YOUR TIME MIKE B TYLER TX

22 years, 11 months

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Northgate ZX Portable HELP

by hdlee＠shaw.ca

Hello, I am rebuilding a Northgate ZX-Portable (almost done) but need some information on the AC charger. The AC Adapter output connector (the part that plugs into the computer) was hacked off when I acquired the computer. I've bought a replacement connector, but still need information on the AC Adapter pin-outs. Does anyone have a similar machine, and could tell me the pin-outs for the battery charger, or offer some advice on where to find this information. The part number for the Northgate AC Adapter is 850-0215. I am new to this list, and glad to have found it. Classics are great! Thanks in advance, Dan Lee

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by BLapsley＠aol.com

hi have you the drivers for ppc 640s

22 years, 11 months

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HP9000/300 Computers, CS80 Disks and Windows

by keith＠saracom.com

Hello, I am new to the list. My classic computer collection is mainly DEC but I must use "classic" HPs at work. Hence my current problem. We have multiple HP9000/300 computers connected via SRM to a HP9826 computer running SRM ver 3.12. We also have several standalone Viper board based PCs. My current problem is that one of the hard drives attached to the HP9826 has died. It was a HP7937 HP-IB drive. I believe it was a CS80 device. I have backups made with a HP9144 tape drive. We could buy a refurbished drive. We were quoted $1300 for a HP7937. I would like to avoid that. Since I only need a few files from the backup and my application could run from the Viper board, if I could get the files into a MS-DOS format, my problem would be solved. I looked through the archives and ran across a thread "HP storage formats on ss80 protocol disks". It seems work has begun on a Windows program to read at least LIF volumes attached to a NI-GPIB board. I have acess to such. The files are RMB ver 5.13 files. The drive that died was not the boot device. Couple of questions: 1) What format is the SRM backups in? LIF? HFS? Other? 2) Peter Brown, would you share your software? I am also open to other suggestions. If you have a HP7937 drive or similar, we can talk. Either purchase or trade. We have a spare HP9826 computer with a dead display along with extra HP9000/300 computers. Thanks Max

22 years, 11 months

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Marchant Calculating Machine

by auringer＠tds.net

Hello, I thought someone here might find this interesting. https://mds.bussvc.wisc.edu/swap/product.asp?mscssID=&auction_id=908 Later, Jon

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