> I have been holding on to this stuff so I could someday set
> up a system to read the 15 or 20 tapes I have.
I'd be happy to read the tapes for you.
If possible, I'd like to borrow any Pertec formatter manuals
that you have to add to the www.spies.com/aek/pdf/pertec
archive.
d
Well, I went through the hardware I have at home and here is the list.
Most of the stuff hasn't been turned on for over 10 years, probably more
like 15. It has been in my workshop/basement, so it is pretty dry. The
list of manuals will come later. The list of tape drives at work will come
after that, but those (I think) are all 9 track, as are most of these.
Anyway, here is the list of drives/controllers/formatters.
Kennedy 9220 (192-9220-066) two cables, and a Kennedy 5427 mounted on
the back. Formatter maybe.
Cipher F880 1600/3200 BPI, 100/50/25 IPS
IDT (Innovative Data Technology) TD11051, 800/1600 BPI, 45 IPS, 3 connectors,
read, write, motion, 36 pin edge connectors, and a cable from (THIS) drive?
bringing all 3 connectors into a single 50 pin edge higher densidy connector.
Kennedy 9000 (192-9000-019) 9 track 800/1600 BPI, 37.5 IPS
Cipher 910640 800/1600 BPI, 75 IPS
2 Emulex TC01/TU01 board pairs, QBUS
1 Emulex TC02
Formatters?:
Pertec F6181-1/0085 Formatter, 2 boards, NRZI Read/Write, PE Read
Datum 10341 Q/HP (Kennedy 120-0025-01) controller
Datum Formatter 5091-120
Pertec f84942(0)/13.9, 901006-01 with R/W 7/9 NRZI
Prime formatter 3101-0001 (Kennedy 9219-509), 3 boards inside
As I said, I have been holding on to this stuff so I could someday set
up a system to read the 15 or 20 tapes I have. All RT-11 or VMS, with a
couple off an RSX-11 system. If there is something here that could help
out with somebodys project, I would be glad to lend it out, or even give
it away, just as long as it either makes it back so I can eventually read
my tapes, or if somebody wants to read the tapes they can have all/any
of the tape drive hardware.
The list of manuals for the formatters/drives will be along shortly.
Regards,
Joe Heck
OK, I'm working in unfamiliar territory... and since there seem to be a lot
of video experts of late, this seems like the time and place to ask...
I'm working on an H-89 that seems to have a problem in the horizontal drive
on the video board. The unit powers up from cold to a good display,
properly sized, and stable. After the unit operates for 10-15 minutes, the
video breaks down, first by jittering slightly for 30-60 seconds, then it
goes to a single vertical line on screen that fades to black. At this time,
the filament on the CRT also stops glowing. If I leave the unit off for
20-30 minutes, it comes back with good video for a bit, then repeats the
above. If I turn the unit back on right away without a cool down, there's
no display/no filament glow.
After tracing the (good) horizontal output signal from the terminal logic
board into various part of the video board, and checking voltages where I
felt I could reach safely in a hot set, I discovered that if I shot
horizontal output transistor Q217 with cold spray I'd get video back right
away.
This unit is the one I posted about on cctalk a few days ago with the NOGDS
board... when I got it, it had a AA battery inside for a clock board that
leaked down onto the flyback transformer. The leak didn't appear excessive,
and most of the "material" on the flyback must have dried long ago and was
brushed away easily, leaving only a slight tarnish on the aluminum heatsink
it's mounted to.
My questions...
1) Although the flyback _appears_ OK, could the leak have caused some unseen
damage that is now causing excessive current through Q217 and shutting it
down? My limited understanding of flyback construction is that they are
sealed units. It takes several minutes (10-15) before the failure is
observed. Could a flyback failure allow operation for this long? How do I
test this thing?
2) If I proceed under the assumption that the flyback is OK and Q217 is
not... Q217 is a BU500: 1500V, 6A, 75W, SI-NPN. I normally buy from Mouser,
DigiKey, and Jameco, but none of them seems to have this part, and I wasn't
able to turn up anything useful Googling. A possible dealer or two in the
UK, but for a $2-3 part I was hoping for a more-readily-available source or
an equivalent. The closest I can find in the family is BU508A, which is
1500V, 7-8A, 120-125W (depending on whose specs you believe). Is that OK or
too far out of spec? Does anyone know of US source for the real McCoy?
Thanks for any help/advice! --Patrick
Can you tell me a bit more about this virtual tape creation?
I have a few PDP11's working but they all run DSM
It's the only Digital operating system I know - I never used RSX RT11 and
so...
I also have a 9track tapecontroller for pc and a Kennedy 9600 drive on it
but this was used on MSM (the pc version of DSM made by Micronetics)and they
controlled the drive direct without os intervention.
Luc
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens SP
Verzonden: maandag 1 september 2003 21:32
Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: Re: Digital DSM Disribution tape
The way would be to do one copy of the tape contents in one virtual tape
available to use with one of the PDP11 simulators availables. I use SIMH
and I should like to manage DSM some time :-)
Cheers
Sergio
I was able to read a tape this morning, after pulling the drive apart
and making sure every last trace of the old pinch roller was cleaned
>from the shaft. The motor runs HOT (which explains why the old rubber
which was already soft liquified) and any little bit left will
contaminate the cartridge.
It is also souluble in isopropyl alcohol.. So be careful if you try
to clean a tape head with a surviving (unlikely..) roller.
It is a block-addessed device (like DECtape II's).
So that it is saved somewhere, here are the specs:
3M MCD-40 rev 4.0 firmware (Apple Tape 40SC)
4848 blocks 8192 bytes/block (39714816 bytes total)
The drive always retensions when you put in a tape.
It will then do the usual tape head positioning, pause,
then do one last read before extinguishing the red light.
If the light flashes, tape loading failed.
I've put some emails out to people I know who might have
the actual specs/pgmg info, but I'm doubtful that they
saved it.
Folks --
I just wanted to take an opportunity to thank Sellam and Walter for the
AS/400. Walter help me load the beast up, along with not one but three
versions of the complete manual set. My back is much better now, if anyone
asks. The system is home, and ticking over nicely. I've spent the balance
of the weekend toying with it. I'd especially like to thank the guys for
the opportunity at an IBM 5364. Walter had this sitting in the back of his
basement and mentioned it while packing up manuals. I've had my eye out for
such a critter for about two years. I haven't got a PC set up as a
controller yet, but I'm very keen to take a crack at it. As always, I can
offer myself as at least a physical resource for the S/36 gear, and now a
bit of the OS/400. Anyone interested in a surplus set of manuals (and
possessed of a strong back) reply quick. The surplus will be dutifully
recycled. That should give you DEC geeks a warm and fuzzy since most of it
will be reincarnated as toilet paper, I'm sure.
Thanks again,
Colin
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:06:33 -0400
From: W. E. Perry <wperry(a)fiduciary.com>
To: donate(a)vintage.org
Subject: AS/400 1991 9404
I have a 1991 vintage AS/400 9404, located in New Jersey, with original
QIC120 distribution of system software through 1993 OS/400 v3 and *ALL*
manuals. In storage since 1995, but working then. Would you want this
machine or could you point me to someone who might?
Thank you.
Walter Perry
Hi,
I'm trying to build a data separator for a floppy disc controller board.
The board uses a NEC 765 (aka uPD765) controller. I've found a schematic for
a ZX Spectrum +2A FDC at http://simandl.jinak.cz/stranky/zxs/zxs_a.htm - this
seems OK, except it uses a 74S188 fuse PROM as part of the data separator
state machine. Does anyone have any spare 74S188s in their junkbox that they
could be persuaded to part with?
I'm also interested in the format the data separator supports - I can't
tell from the state data if the state machine runs in FM or MFM mode. If it's
FM, does anyone have a schematic for an MFM data separator that uses fairly
standard (i.e. 74LS, 40xx, etc) ICs?
Thanks.
--
Phil. | Acorn Risc PC600 Mk3, SA202, 64MB, 6GB,
philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com | ViewFinder, Ethernet (Acorn AEH62),
http://www.philpem.dsl.pipex.com/ | 8xCD, framegrabber, Teletext
"High voltage. Yeah, right. I can hold this 20kV wire with my fingers... YEAARGH!" *thud*
I think I've come up with something that will work.
The outer and inner cross section of the roller is .7" and
.5" so I dug around at Weird Stuff to see if any old DC2000
drives were close. The Colorado 250 appears to be, and with
a bit of work with a small flat blade screwdriver I was able
to remove the rubber from the .5" shaft. Now, I need to clean
the goo out of one of the MCD-40 mechanisms and try it.
This may be a workaround for the HP's as well. If someone has
a caliper handy, I'm curious what the cross sections are for
the roller in that.
What is the best way to store the clear blue plastic boxes full of DEC fanfold papertape? I'd been laying them flat, but that takes up quite a bit of space. I was wondering if it's safe to put them in a bookcase like a book, but I got to thinking this probably isn't a good idea for the papertape.
Zane
--
--
| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator |
| healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast |
| | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. |
| http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |
Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> > BTW I have finally managed to get a 98155A keyboard for my 9915's
> Congradulations! Where did you find it? It took me years to find one.
On eBay, for $35
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2748063348
as you can see I used the Buy Now option, and not a moment too soon,
the seller told me that he had higher offers from others that came
late.
> GREAT! I've been looking for those for years. The only one that I have
>is for networking the 9915s.
Do you mean the system for making backup tapes with a bunch of
9915s connected via HP-IB? Do you have the s/w for that pac?
-----------
"Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
> What about the 9122?
you'll need the EMS ROM for that one.
> I'm hoping it would work with the 9122, which is what I want to get for my
> 1631D. The only reason I'm hunting for 9122 instead of 9121, is I thought
> the floppy disks for the 9122 might be easier to find (they DO use different
> media right?)
The difference between the 9121 and the 9122 is that the former is single
sided and the latter double. Apart from that they both use the DOUBLE
density format which is different from the QUAD density PC floppies.
So while you gain in capacity with the 9122, you still need to find these
floppies.
BTW note that while the 9121 is very reliable, there are quite a few
9122s with damaged heads. This has to do with the disk loading mechanism
that gets stuck with age and if the user forces the diskette in, it
hits one of the read/write heads.
> Thanks for the tip!! I don't have too many old DECtapes, but when you say
> old 40mb PC tape drive tapes, are you talking QIC-80 tapes? I have tons of
> those. If not, exactly what tape do I go buy?
CAREFULL! The HP-85 tapes (and the DECtapes) are NOT the same as the
QIC-80 tapes. They look the same, to the extent that I was trying to
insert one and getting annoyied when it wouldn't go in.
> I saw note of that on your website. That would be soooooooo so nice to have
> n ROM emulator. Humm there can't be THAT much to the electronics inside the
> 2929A. Anyone have one they'll let me take apart and build a copy of?
Actually its not that complex. If you look at
http://www.series80.org/Manuals/HP82929A.pdf
you will see that most of the chips deal with address decoding. You can
replace most if not all with a microcontroller (e.g. PIC).
BUT, (there has to be a but, otherwise, I would have already pointed
you to a page that tells you how to build one :-) The HP-85 bus is
not TTL. I think the logic true is +6V and the clocks are like +12V.
So you need more than a PIC. Like I said, its in my TODO list.
Having said that, relocating the ROM executable may actually be easier.
But (there's that word, again) when I tried to look at the CPU
architecture, I freaked out. What the **** were they doing back then.
This CPU is totally wierd, so understanding what is going on with
that thing will take some effort.
Anybody who knows/remembers HP-85 assembly? :-)
**vp
I have the beast om my desk here:
The 9825A has option 002 installed (23228bytes op mem) and has 2 modules in
its option slots
a 98216A module and a 98210 module
It powers up and seems to do the basic calculations (1+1=2) :)))
On the back is a sticker: Part of 5046A system (never heard of)
there are also 3 expansion module like bays in the back - all of them empty
-----------
The 9826 unit that came with it powers also up but seems to ask for a disk
This unit looks like disk os based - is there anything more to find about
it?
Luc
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens Joe
Verzonden: woensdag 27 augustus 2003 12:50
Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: Re: HP 9825A rescue?
At 01:36 PM 8/28/03 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi Folks,
>
>I am not familiar with the old HP calculators.
>The local junkyard has a HP 9825A desktop calculator they can't sell
>They intend to demolish it next week - is it worth saving it? or is the
>world full of it?
Why can't they sell it?
>- is it worth saving it?
Yes but it sounds like you don't have any choice.
>or is the
>world full of it?
They're relatively common in this area but I'm close to several large
military contractors and Kennedy Space Center and they use a lot of them.
But they are neat machines and seem to run forever. It's probably one of
the best machines that HP ever built IMO. They run a OS/language called
HPL. It's a cross between APL and BASIC. Lots more details on my website at
<http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/hpdcalc.htm>.
What model is it? Open the paper cover and see what options it has.
Joe
>It looks complete and has only some minor estetic damage.
>
>gr.
>
>Luc Vande Velde
>
>
>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>Van: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org
>[mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens Fritz Chwolka
>Verzonden: donderdag 21 augustus 2003 17:05
>Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>Onderwerp: Re: Anyone have copy of old BBS software
>
>
>On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:05:25 -0400, Cini, Richard wrote:
>
>>Hello, all:
>>
>> Does anyone have a copy of some old BBS software for the PC
>>platform, like WildCat, that I could get a copy of? I'd like to do some
>file
>>transfer testing among my classic platforms and thought an internal BBS
>>would be a clean way to do it.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>Rich Cini
>
>Why don't use telemate, procomm or zock and use their internal host
>like personal bbs ?
>
>BBSen even here
>
>http://www.eunet.bg/simtel.net/msdos/bbs.html
>
>and here look for telix or telemate
>
>http://www.vectorbd.com/bfd/telecomm/
>
>
>
>Greetings from
>Fritz Chwolka
>
><collecting old computers just for fun>
>> www.alterechner.de <
I am just back from the junkyard
I've got the HP 9825A and they added a HP 9826 too - all on take them, test
them and let me know if you want them... conditions
I'll have to scan the internet for this 9826 machine now - is this a
calculator or already a small computer?
Display looks larger and it has a 5 1/4" floppy drive build in
Luc
If you're one of those people who wants a PDP-8 but can't find one, don't
despair - you can always build your own! The SBC6120 is a complete PDP-8
built around the venerable Harris HD6120 CPU and modern programmable logic
devices. All parts used except the 6120 are contemporary, easily available
devices.
The entire system fits on a PC board 6.2" by 4.2" and has approximately the
same footprint as a 3.5" hard disk. The SBC6120 has 64KW RAM, 32KW EPROM,
a true KL8/E compatible console terminal interface, and a standard IDE/ATA
disk interface. OS/8 device handlers are available for IDE interface, and
the system will run standard OS/8 V3D. There's even an expansion bus so you
can design and build your own daughter cards to plug into it.
To find out more, visit the SBC6120 web page at
http://www.SpareTimeGizmos.com/Hardware/SBC6120-2.htm
Last fall, a group of about 30 people got together to order parts and
PC boards for the SBC6120, and the results were better than I ever hoped.
So far as I know, every one who assembled their SBC6120 got it working
(a few people still have theirs on the shelf, unassembled, I'm afraid!).
Some people even designed peripherals for it, such as Jim Kearney's cool
I/O board which allows you to use a standard VGA monitor and PS/2 keyboard
as a VT-52 substitute.
http://www.jkearney.com/sbc6120/iob6120.htm
And perhaps the best of all, we're now beta testing a real lights and
switches front panel for the SBC6120. Visit
http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Hardware/SBC6120_Front_Panel.htm
for a preview!
Even now I still get enough inquiries about the SBC6120 that I have decided
to purchase another run of PC boards and 6120 CPU chips. There's a fully
assembled unit available on eBay now,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2750838322
and Spare Time Gizmos is now selling bare PC boards, two different partial
kits, and a complete kit at
http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Hardware/SBC6120_Orders.htm
If you wanted to have your own PDP-8, then here's your chance!
Thanks,
Bob Armstrong
Saw this on usenet, and thought someone might be interested. Do
not have any further information on it.
- don
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Well, I went to the Shelby Hamfest this weekend and made some good
finds:
Kaypro II (missing one disk drive, boot disk mostly readable) - $10.00
1967 Small Computer Handbook - $0.50
1972 Small Computer Handbook - $0.50
PDP 11/70 Processor Manual - $0.50
20 TK-50 tapes - $5.00
If anyone wants to get rid of a Kaypro II disk drive, let me know.
--
Christopher McNabb <cmcnabb(a)4mcnabb.net>
The McNabb Family
Well I was able to pick up a black keyboard, mouse and external 3.5 FDD for
the CDTV. Now all I need is the black monitor and 3 more game CD's for it
(I have 3 already plus a shop test CD), plus a copy of the original manual
to have a complete system for the museum. The games look pretty good on the
TV.
Over the years I've worked on a number of systems that were sold as "word processors". They were all "computers" in the sense that they had the standard complement of CPU, memory, mass storage and the programming was loaded at boot time, as opposed to being in ROM. Some of them, e.g. DEC's WS-78, were general-purpose computers (oops! pardon me ... Personal Data Processors) that were shipped only with the word processing software. However, especially in the case of the WS-78/DECmate family, a DOS (OS-8/78/278) was available, as were a variety of compilers and interpreters, e.g. Fortran, BASIC, Dibol.
I think I still have OS-8 on 8" floppies.
Dale (the DECdude)
Both units are cleaned and had basic maintenance.
They seems to power up as it should be...
As far as I found on the web they both share the HPL language, but I could
not find any users guide or HPL language manuals.
Can anyone give me a link?
thanks in advance
Luc
Hi Folks,
In my never ending intentions of freeing op space to park some "new" stuff I
found a complete RP03 controller.
As this thing is taking up a serious amount of space I wont it out (I don't
have any functional RP03 drives left)
It's for free for the first PDP11 lover who wants it, does not intend to
scrap it, and is capable of picking it up...
For the US guys - sorry, but it stands on the other side of the ocean and
does not fit in a postpack :)))
gr.
Luc
Belgium
Part 2 of the "Moving a collection" is almost complete. I now have a
24' truck parked in my driveway that is *packed* with gear. Tomorrow
will be the unloading and "gross" sorting.
This part was *not* an adventure -- more like a nightmare. I'll post
all the gory details once I get some rest after a 3200 mile cross
country drive. But let's just say that a particular truck rental firm
will not be getting any of my future business!
--
TTFN - Guy
I goofed on this one, and had to look it up -- the actual address is
http://www.dmine.com/telnet/bbslist.asp
Cheers!
Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, Texas, USA
Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048
Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com>
-----Original Message-----
From: Tillman, Edward [mailto:Edward.Tillman@valero.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 11:55 PM
To: 'cctalk(a)classiccmp.org'
Subject: RE: Anyone have copy of old BBS software
If you can get onto any of the currently running telnet BBSs, several still
have copies of the older, dial-up software -- Wildcat, Maximus, FrontDoor,
and several others... Go to BBSCORNER.COM. They have plenty of addresses
to choose from.
Cheers!
Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, Texas, USA
Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048
Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com>
-----Original Message-----
From: Cini, Richard [mailto:RCini@congressfinancial.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:05 AM
To: CCTech (E-mail)
Subject: Anyone have copy of old BBS software
Hello, all:
Does anyone have a copy of some old BBS software for the PC
platform, like WildCat, that I could get a copy of? I'd like to do some file
transfer testing among my classic platforms and thought an internal BBS
would be a clean way to do it.
Thanks.
Rich Cini
If you can get onto any of the currently running telnet BBSs, several still
have copies of the older, dial-up software -- Wildcat, Maximus, FrontDoor,
and several others... Go to BBSCORNER.COM. They have plenty of addresses
to choose from.
Cheers!
Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, Texas, USA
Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048
Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com>
-----Original Message-----
From: Cini, Richard [mailto:RCini@congressfinancial.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:05 AM
To: CCTech (E-mail)
Subject: Anyone have copy of old BBS software
Hello, all:
Does anyone have a copy of some old BBS software for the PC
platform, like WildCat, that I could get a copy of? I'd like to do some file
transfer testing among my classic platforms and thought an internal BBS
would be a clean way to do it.
Thanks.
Rich Cini
I got a note from E-bay (links confirmed) warning about this message,
decrying it, and suggesting that I look into their privacy management page
for their full particulars. Specifically, their page says they'll never ask
for any of this information, and that any such requests *should* be reported
to them.
Cheers...
Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, Texas, USA
Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048
Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com>
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay West [mailto:jwest@classiccmp.org]
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 12:21 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Cc: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: EBAY fraud alert
I recently got an email from the "Ebay security audit team" or something to
that affect. Says they periodically verify contact information, and couldn't
verify mine, asking me to follow a link to update my account or it would be
disabled in 5 days.
I followed the link, noticed it wasn't in secure mode, and wondered why EBAY
would need my bank account number, routing/ABA numbers, not to mention SSN
and
home address and credit card numbers, etc. The form asked for everything
imaginable. Yikes!
Upon getting suspicious I checked the headers and html links in the message
-
needless to say - NOT ebay. Watch out for this one! I did report it to the
spoof team at Ebay.
Jay West
Any modem, internal or external, 300-4800bps should work fine with this
model (they had pretty good software, and worked with Zenith 2xx series).
AT&T had a good external. USR had one of their earlier Courrier models out
then too...
Cheers!
Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, Texas, USA
Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048
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From: banztech(a)softhome.net [mailto:banztech@softhome.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 8:40 PM
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Subject: slt/286
Hello,I need user info for a compaq slt/286 I:E what modem
type/brand/cable does slt286 use and how to get into bios.Any help would
be greatly appreciated.Thanks
Hello all,
I finally set up my SWP ATR8000 last night. This device allows an Atari
computer to use standard floppy drives along with Atari proprietary drives.
Included with the ATR8000 was an external floppy case with power supply that
can hold 2 half height 5 1/4 floppies. It had 1 Shugart SA455 5 1/4 DSDD drive
and I added (after hours of drilling and filing) a Chinon FZ-354 3 1/2 DSDD.
I put the Chinon on the end of the cable set at drive 3. I removed the
resistor pack from the Shugart and added a switch using old motherboard cables
so I can change the drive id from 1 to 2. This is so I can boot CP/M from the
Shugart as drive 1 or switch it to drive 2 and boot from an Atari drive. I
had no trouble using the Shugart drive but the Chinon gave me a lot of
problems. After a little research on the net, I changed the jumper from DC to
RDY (this sounded like the answer) but I still got errors. The errors
occurred after I rebooted and wrote to the same disk. Every file from the
second write was messed up. The only jumpers left were MM and MD so I changed
the jumper from MM to MD and it works great now. My big question is what are
the MM and MD settings for, and how did this solve my problem? From what I've
read, 3 1/2 drives don't have removable resistor packs and they somehow
achieve termination automatically so that's why I put the Chinon at the end of
the cable. Thanks for listening to my raving. By the way, does anyone have
the CP/M disks for this setup for sale or for trade?
Ralph
Does anyone know where I can find out more about this old mechanical
calculator?
http://www.jarai.org/temp/monroe/0830_001-sm.jpghttp://www.jarai.org/temp/monroe/0830_002-sm.jpghttp://www.jarai.org/temp/monroe/0830_003-sm.jpg
The unit is fully operational. With some inspiration from the Curta
instruction manual, I've been able to figure out addition, subtraction,
multiplication, and division on this device. I picked it up at a local
yard sale today for a reasonable $30.
So far, I've not been able to find much about this particular model.
Most everything I can find talks about Monroe's later electromechanical
calculators. The closest match I found is this one from the Computer
Museum in San Diego, but the image is very blurry and there isn't much
information about the calculator.
http://www.computer-museum.org/collections/monroe_addc.html
The next example is this one but it is a bit more streamlined than mine,
so I'd guess it's a slightly later model.
http://www.officemuseum.com/Monroe_Calculating_Machine_Co._NY_OM.jpghttp://www.officemuseum.com/calculating_machines_pinwheel_other.htm
The identifying marks on the calculator itself are the "Monroe
Calculating Machine Company, New York, U.S.A." on the front and a number
stamped in the metal underneath the carriage--41516--which I'm guessing
is the serial number. The keyboard keys seem to be made from Bakelite.
-brian.
I'm doing some research for a client and am seeking out information on
computers or processors prior to 1983 that implemented cache memory in the
processor.
Can anyone think of any other than the following:
Amdahl 470 V/6
Amdahl 470 V/6-II
Amdahl 470 V/8
Amdahl 580
Data General Eclipse MV/4000
Data General Eclipse MV/8000C
Data General Eclipse MV/8000II
Data General Eclipse MV/10000
HP 3000 Series 64
IBM 3033
IBM 3038
IBM 3081K
IBM 3084
NEC S/1000
SGI Power
Zilog Z8000
Zilog Z80000
?
Thanks!
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> > Over the years I've worked on a number of systems that were sold as "word
> > processors". They were all "computers" in the sense that they had the
> > standard complement of CPU, memory, mass storage and the programming was
> > loaded at boot time, as opposed to being in ROM.
>
> My Diamond's the same - the ROM only contains enough to load whatever's on the
> system disk. I have various floppies that were labelled as having contents
> other than the standard wordprocessing application software, so although the
> machine was sold by the manufacturer solely as a wordprocessor there were
> obviously 3rd parties who produced other software for it.
>
> If your definition of computer means that the OS has to be seperate from the
> running application, then no, it doesn't qualify (but that knocks out most 80's
> home micros that would drop straight into BASIC)
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that. There were a lot of word processing systems that, even though they had separate system boxes, the O/S was in ROM and couldn't be overridden. I would call that a dedicated-purpose "computer". I thought we were distinguishing between those and GP microcomputers sold as word processors.
> I'd say that a wordprocessor that *looked* like a typewriter probably doesn't
> qualify as a computer though; it's just a microprocessor-controlled typewriter.
>
The systems I worked on all used Diablo or Qume daisy-wheel printers for their output. So, with separate system boxes and monitors, they didn't look like typewriters. In fact, that's how I came to work for DEC (later compaqted, then h-PACKardED); I knew how to make those darned printers work.
Dale (the DECdude)
> Can you give me a model number?
Apple Tape 40SC - Apple part number M2640
Did some digging on google's usenet archive, and people were
trying to find replacements for the roller already in 1998.
The mechanism is a 3M MCD-40
There was one message I've found that says that 3M sold off
their tape drive division (or spun it off) as "GII" but I've
not found anything more on them.
Between bad tape formulations, and drives going bad, it is
becoming really difficult to inexpensively recover data from
10 to 20 years ago that was written to tape.
Can you give me a model number?
I have a few piles of old Apple stuff but I know almost nothing about it
(I am not an Apple Lover) - I just kept them because I can't dump nice
electronics
Concerning this pitch roller behavior of turning into some kind of tar...
Does anyone know what's the reason? I scrapped this afternoon a dozen of
multi-track recorders (no panic, they were without any value, except for
some nice Papst outer-rotor motors) and all their pitchrollers looked like
melted
gr.
Luc
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Van: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens Al Kossow
Verzonden: zaterdag 30 augustus 2003 18:12
Aan: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: anyone have a working Apple 40 meg tape drive?
It appears that the Apple 40 meg tape drives have the same
problem that HP's have.. the pinch rollers (same color as
HP's) instantly turn to goo if you try to use them, even
though they look fine.
Does anyone have a known working drive that I can borrow
to read a couple of tapes?
It appears that the Apple 40 meg tape drives have the same
problem that HP's have.. the pinch rollers (same color as
HP's) instantly turn to goo if you try to use them, even
though they look fine.
Does anyone have a known working drive that I can borrow
to read a couple of tapes?
Hi, gang,
Two of the items I just put up on E-pay may be of interest. First, there's a big lot (11 boards worth) of MicroVAX II CPU's and memory, which includes a "Controller of Mystery" (A System Industries CS-1) that I never did figure out the purpose of.
Second is a pair of unused coaxial cables for VAX clustering.
Easy enough to find. Just do a 'Search by Seller' for 'bftbell' (sans quotes).
Thanks again for putting up with my occasional ads.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy,
Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com
ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green, aka Steve Smith)
I have a simple question,
is a word processor a vintage computer or typewriter?
I am on digest and will be reading your replies and shall thank you now,
Isa
Hey folks... just happened to come across some pictures of HP2000 systems
that I have never come across before. Shows some really nice configurations.
http://www.entrix.co.uk/nostalgia.html
Jay West
>I was talking to a friend who got one of those "your credit card
>information is invalid" type emails. Since he didn't have a credit card,
>it was rather obvious is was fraudulent :).
I get those from time to time, but unfortunatly, having been the victim
of ID theft once already, I take each of them a little more seriously and
investigate to make sure it isn't legit.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Hello,
Thanks to the help of several of you, I have, after
reparing the power supply, been able to verify that
the CPU is running, and using the .PDF service manual,
am able to get a signal on the video pin (8) after
replacing the contrast pot. However, the monitor
still produces no output. I have a couple of
questions:
1) Is there a SAMS or some other document that
discusses the monitor operation?
2) What's the simplest way to use an external monitor
for testing?
3) Does the monitor use the +12V line on the connector
>from the CPU board for all its power, including the HV
converter?
Unfortunately I don't have an HV probe at the moment,
so I'm being cautious about poking around the CRT.
Thanks,
David.
A similar scam was attempted on me about a month ago regarding my Paypal account. The *first* hint that it wasn't legit' was that it came to an email account other than the one Paypal knows me at.
Dale (the DECdude)
Jay West <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I recently got an email from the "Ebay security audit team" or something to
> that affect. Says they periodically verify contact information, and couldn't
> verify mine, asking me to follow a link to update my account or it would be
> disabled in 5 days.
>
> I followed the link, noticed it wasn't in secure mode, and wondered why EBAY
> would need my bank account number, routing/ABA numbers, not to mention SSN and
> home address and credit card numbers, etc. The form asked for everything
> imaginable. Yikes!
>
> Upon getting suspicious I checked the headers and html links in the message -
> needless to say - NOT ebay. Watch out for this one! I did report it to the
> spoof team at Ebay.
>
> Jay West
I also have been meaning to resurrect my 7 track drives and an 800
bpi 9 track, for the purpose of reading a couple of dozen useless tapes.
I have at least 12 drives, from 7 track up to 9 track 6250 bpi, a couple
of dilog and emulex qbus tape controllers, and two or three external
formatters (for the older drives) I have some manuals from datum, pertec,
kennedy, digi and maybe others, BUT I just don't have the time or
inclination to start putting these together.
A cooperative venture maybe?
Joe Heck
The IBM 360/60 was never really a product.. try again.
--
> BTW, weren't the 360/60 and 360/62 as evanescent as the 64 and 66? And wasn't there
 > a 360/70 that also quickly disappeared?
The original lineup was the 30, 40, 50, 60, 62, and 70, with a vague promise of a 92.
The 60 and 62 were the same CPU (2060), but different core-memory units (2360 and
2362). The 70 used hardware similar to the 60 and 62, but was all hard-wired, with no
microprogramming, and used the superior 2362 core.
The original S/360's took a long time to be delivered, and, a year later, some of the
hardware specs were no longer competitive. The 60 was dropped altogether, and the 62
and 70 were replaced by the 65 and
75. Out of them all, only one 62 was ever shipped to a customer. At the same time,
the 92 was dropped, to be replaced by a vague promise of a "90 series", later
realized in the 91, 95, and 195. It was also about this time that the original
2.0-microsecond 30, with lights in the front like the other 360's, was largely
superseded by the 1.5-microsecond
75(1), with lights behind a flat panel like a 1401; though the
76.-microsecond version was never officially discontinued, and was shipped in large
enough numbers that there were 2.0-microsecond 22's offered (the 22's were
reconditioned 30's, offered while the 370/115 and
77/125 were not yet ready), it was rare (I never saw one).
But in the meantime, the need for large-scale timesharing had resulted in the
announcement of virtual-memory versions of the 60 and 62, to be called the 64 and 66.
As part of the same restructuring, these were withdrawn a month after they were
announced, to be replaced with the 67.
Of the original April, 1964, 360's, only the 40 and 50 ended up being shipped in
large numbers.
> I just pulled a really interesting-looking expansion board from a dead
> Heathkit H-89 I acquired a few months ago, and I was wondering if anyone
> knew anything about it, and/or had documentation and software to support it.
http://www.spies.com/~aek/pdf/nogds/HA-89-3_graphicsBoard_1982.pdf
> Oops. I reckon I meant 360/60. Sorry.
> From: Gene Ehrich <gehrich(a)tampabay.rr.com>
> Date: 2003/08/29 Fri PM 07:51:51 EDT
> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: IBM 60
>
> At 07:40 PM 8/29/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >Ahoy,
> >I need an IBM 60. Has anybody got one of these big bears?
>
> What is an IBM 60?
>
> I worked for them for 27 years and as a consultant for another 10 and never
> heard of an IBM 60
>
>
>
> =================================
> Gene Ehrich
> gehrich(a)tampabay.rr.com
I no longer have the time or interest to play with my "University
Computing Company" 4K PDP-8/L. It's a box and front panel but no
cabinet - can't tell if it was a rackmount or tabletop. After
replacing almost all the 7440's and a few other IC's, it seems to
be fully working and "talks" with my ASR33 (desktop, no stand).
Many panel bulbs were bad so I have replaced them with
LEDs/resistors - glows red instead of orange/white but doesn't
burn out!
The only problem is intermittent read errors from the tape reader
that prevent me from reading in a long tape like FOCAL or PAL. RIM
can be toggled in and it reads BIN successfully.
I also have a homemade NVRAM DF32/DS32 128K emulator (you may have
seen the posts this winter) which also appears to be working but
may need some modification to work with DEC software. It stores
and reads blocks of data, anyhow, and is a 99% complete emulation
of the huge rackmount DF32 + 3 DS32 assembly. The interface is the
standard five-cable posibus and I had my own "paddle" connector
boards fabricated to use with standard 40 pin ribbon cables. I
will include the (Eagle format) schematic and board files and
hopefully someone can complete the project.
Emailed pictures available. I'd like to sell the whole works (8/L,
TTY and disk project) to a good home ;) otherwise it goes on E
bay.
-Charles
O.K. over the weekend I will inventory what is at home, which is where
the older stuff is. I know at work is the dilog controllers and the
9 track drives, cipher 880 and 990 are the newest. here at home are
the manuals the tc01 and tc02 emulex controllers and the older drives.
bug me if I forget!
Joe Heck
As heard from previous messages the TU10 would be capable of reading 7 & 9
track tapes.
--
A TU10 transport WITH A 7 TRACK HEAD can read a 7 track tape.
Good luck finding one.
For a PDP11, the interface was a TM11. There were master and slave
TU10 transports. The parity and lrcc circuitry only exists in the
first (master) transport. The interface between the drives is DEC's
old 'negative' logic.
At 07:40 PM 8/29/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Ahoy,
>I need an IBM 60. Has anybody got one of these big bears?
What is an IBM 60?
I worked for them for 27 years and as a consultant for another 10 and never
heard of an IBM 60
=================================
Gene Ehrich
gehrich(a)tampabay.rr.com
I have dredged up my Atrona system and will try
to make some floppy copies for interested parties
soon.
I belive I have floppies to boot both the 8 bit
processor, and the 16 bit service processor into
MS/Dos 2.x (2.1 maybe).
I'll post again when I get the system tested and
running.
It uses standard 3 1/2" floppies (I think 720K,
again I'll have to post when I check it out).
Jim
> realized what was going on. So now I need a new printball and some advice on
> what to do about the missing rubber? hammer cover.
If the damage isn't too bad you can carefully file/sand down the damaged
areas so they are the same height and it will print better. The one
on the following picture had that problem and is readable but not great.
With a little more work probably could be a little better by reshaping/
flattening individual letters but decided to stop at good enough.
Print sample
http://www.pdp8.net/asr33/dms.jpg
This is my repair with a stick on foot.
http://www.pdp8.net/asr33/pics/ph_top.shtml?small
David Gesswein
http://www.pdp8.net/ -- Run an old computer with blinkenlights
>From: "John Honniball" <coredump(a)gifford.co.uk>
>
>Peter Turnbull wrote:
>> It's over 10 years old, and it's microprocessor-compatible, but it's an
>> analogue to digital converter chip, not a computer. It's also not in
>> my spares box, and I need one. Does anyone have a spare? Or a data
>> sheet?
>
>I only have a couple of ZN428 chips, and the data sheet for them. I may
>have data for the ZN448 -- I'll have a look. It was a Ferranti part,
>if that helps at all.
>
Many ADC had a large number of replacements. The trick is finding
them. There was no uniform part numbering for these, like was done
in the TTL world.
Dwight
On Aug 28, 22:39, Tony Duell wrote:
> > It's over 10 years old, and it's microprocessor-compatible, but
it's an
> > analogue to digital converter chip, not a computer. It's also not
in
> > my spares box, and I need one. Does anyone have a spare? Or a
data
> > sheet?
>
> I can't find a chip (although it sounds familiar for some reason),
but I
> do have a Ferranti data book that covers it. What do you need to
know?
Pinout, and if possible some timing info (conversion time etc) and what
voltage references it needs/has. I thought I had the RS data sheet for
it, but it's gone walkabout.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Hi Folks,
I am not familiar with the old HP calculators.
The local junkyard has a HP 9825A desktop calculator they can't sell
They intend to demolish it next week - is it worth saving it? or is the
world full of it?
It looks complete and has only some minor estetic damage.
gr.
Luc Vande Velde
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Van: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens Fritz Chwolka
Verzonden: donderdag 21 augustus 2003 17:05
Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: Re: Anyone have copy of old BBS software
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:05:25 -0400, Cini, Richard wrote:
>Hello, all:
>
> Does anyone have a copy of some old BBS software for the PC
>platform, like WildCat, that I could get a copy of? I'd like to do some
file
>transfer testing among my classic platforms and thought an internal BBS
>would be a clean way to do it.
>
> Thanks.
>
>Rich Cini
Why don't use telemate, procomm or zock and use their internal host
like personal bbs ?
BBSen even here
http://www.eunet.bg/simtel.net/msdos/bbs.html
and here look for telix or telemate
http://www.vectorbd.com/bfd/telecomm/
Greetings from
Fritz Chwolka
<collecting old computers just for fun>
> www.alterechner.de <
> out of all the years I owned Computer Exchange Inc. I had only one 7970 hp
> tape drive that would read 7 track... even the ones that only read 7
> track must have been scarce too, or I just never attracted them!
Are you sure it was a hp 7970 ?
All hp7970 I found are 9-track ...
--
You must have not looked very hard.
page 1-02 of the 7970 manual at www.spies.com/aek/pdf/hp/tape/07970-90887_7970svc_Dec77.pdf
7970B/7970E magnetic tape unit configuration guide
model-option
7970B-136 200 556 800 7tk
7970E-164 200 556 800 1600 7tk 9tk slave
7970E-165 200 556 800 1600 7tk 9tk master
I don't have a vector file, but I do have some files which people might
find interesting. I have a scan of an 11/70 rack header panel which has
been retouched in Adobe Photoshop:
http://www.ubanproductions.com/panel1170b.jpg (97405 bytes)
I also have two Adobe Illustrator files of a re-created 11/70 rack
header panel which I made based on the original scan. The first of
the two Illustrator files includes the very large original scan, so
if you don't want that, please don't download it. The second file
only contains the Illustrator version of the panel. I think that
this reproduced image is very good and could be used to reproduce
a graphic for these panels:
http://www.ubanproductions.com/panel1170b.ai (4596764 bytes)
http://www.ubanproductions.com/panel1170.ai (169499 bytes)
Enjoy!
--tom
At 09:55 AM 8/29/2003 -0400, rogersda(a)cox.net wrote:
>BTW: Does anyone here happen to have a vector-graphic file of the digital
>logo? In any color?
>
>Dale
Just like to have a confirmation that it can read 7 and 9 track tapes
--
7 and 9 track 1/2" tapes have different track spacing, and require
different head stacks for each format.
the only drive I have ever heard of that was capable of reading both
were specially configured HP 7970's
Good luck finding a drive capable of reading 2400' 7 track tapes.
It took me several years to find just a 7 track head stack, and it
cost me $500.
If you ever wanted a DEC Computer Lab then now's your chance. There are 7
of these being offered on eBay right now:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3044043907&category=294
Check the seller's other auctions for links to the other ads. They all
have opening bids of $29.95.
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At 05:31 PM 8/24/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>1 Lot of 25 3' inch polished Silicon Wafers
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2552753957
Are these commonly available at Bay area surplus shops?
I've got some old 3 inch wafers, but I'd like some big ones, too.
- John
On Aug 28, 21:04, John Honniball wrote:
> Peter Turnbull wrote:
> > It's over 10 years old, and it's microprocessor-compatible, but
it's an
> > analogue to digital converter chip, not a computer. It's also not
in
> > my spares box, and I need one. Does anyone have a spare? Or a
data
> > sheet?
>
> I only have a couple of ZN428 chips, and the data sheet for them. I
may
> have data for the ZN448 -- I'll have a look. It was a Ferranti part,
> if that helps at all.
I know it's Ferranti. Unfortunately a ZN428E is the opposite -- a DAC.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Is it a MicroVAX 2000 or a VaxStation 2000? If it is a VS2000 I have the
manual for that, but not the MicroVAX 2000. The last post mentioned
a VS2000. That got me wondering which it is. The VS2000 expects a
video monitor, but the printer port defaults to 4800 baud.
Well, I just read more in the VAXstation 2000/MicroVAX 2000 hardware
guide. It says" "Because the operator console is a very important tool
in diagnosing system hardware failures, the VAXstation 2000/MicroVAX
2000 provides for an alternate console terminal in case the first one is
not working.
On a VAXstation 2000 or MicroVAX 2000, you may attach a terminal to
the printer using a BCC08 cable (see Figure 1-1). On a MicroVAX 2000
you must remove the DEC423 converter before connecting the BCC08 cable.
If this terminal is connected when the system is first powered on, it
becomes the "diagnostic" console terminal, and the primary console
terminal is disabled for further use as a console.
the pinout for the 9 pin printer connector, J3, is as follows:
1 chassis ground
2 xmt data
3 printer rcv data
4 n/c
5 +12vdc
6 n/c
7 chassis ground
8 ground
9 FER_ENA
without looking at the bcc08, i would bet that FER_ENA gets tied either
to +12 or ground to enable the port as a console. Well, a google search
shows that pin 8 and 9 get shorted for the BCC08, and
4 is RTS, 5 is DTR 6 is DSR and 7 is signal ground.
hope that helps
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/faq/vmsfaq_019.html
is the website for that info
Joe HEck
What baud rate, parity, data bits do you use for these and do you need to
press any certain key to get the system to recognize the terminal? I have
two of these. I tried to bring them up today. The closest setting that
seemed to work was 9600 Baud, 8N1. But all I could get on the display was
'||PPPP'. I got exactly the same from both CPUs.
Joe
Rumour has it that Al Kossow has managed to do without the formatter, but I have no further information.
--
The current state of the project is a friend of mine fabricated a shim for me to mount
a Cipher 7 track head on a Qualstar 1052 transport. I haven't said much about what I'm
doing because I wanted to buy enough cheap 1052's on eBay for experimentation (I have
about 10 of them now)
The 1052 is a VERY simple transport. I have the docs for it so I can hack the firmware
to just start the tape moving at a constant rate, ignoring BOT, EOT, etc.
I have a PC done with a bank of Analog Devices 10 bit A/D's and a FIFO which will feed
into my PCI macintosh though a bus mastering PCI ATA controller. Until I get that working
I'm going to use a couple of VMIVME 3115 A/D converter cards attached through a PCI-VME
converter for data capture.
The goal is to get something put together that is small enough to be able to be transportable
so that I can take the setup to where the tapes are, rather than risk having them lost
in shipment.
So anybody out here knows of any 7 track drives which are still easy (?)
to get and have some kind of "usual" interfaces ?
--
If you have 7 track tapes of historical significance, and are willing
to release their contents, there are a couple of people who will read
them for you.
You will not be able to either find an easy to get or 'usual' interface
as these devices have been out of production for over 30 years and every
source for heads has discontinued production. There are a (very) few
companies that have "new old stock" tape drives, which they are attempting
to sell for many thousands of dollars.
Robert <Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com> wrote:
> What would be more useful than the color names (which can be used for different RGB colors) would be the Pantone or Munsel numbers. The DEC logos were trademarks. Does anyone know if the exact colors need to be specified when a trademark is registered? If so, then this information might be available from the federal trademark registry.
>
I do remember seeing such a specification, for the "company" logo color, anyway (the light "baby" blue). I may have even saved it - I just don't know where. I just searched my on-line disks and got no hits. I suspect that the only color you'll find in the trademark registry is Bob Palmer's "dried blood" burgundy.
Dale
What would be more useful than the color names (which can be used for different RGB colors) would be the Pantone or Munsel numbers. The DEC logos were trademarks. Does anyone know if the exact colors need to be specified when a trademark is registered? If so, then this information might be available from the federal trademark registry.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence LeMay [mailto:lemay@mail.cs.umn.edu]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:17 AM
To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
Cc: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: DEC colors
Standard 8/e is of course Amber and Terra Cotta. I've seen 8/F and 8/L
in that color scheme, as well as Orange and Terra Cotta for the 8/M.
Less standard color schemes for which i do not know the official color
names are the Industrial-8 colors (red and dark-blue), and another
8/e in light-blue and dark-blue.
-Lawrence LeMay
> The standard pdp/11 front panel colors are magenta and wild rose.
> >From memory the 8/e front panel is mustard and burnt orange
>
> Each DEC computer family in the 60's / early 70's had their own
> color. The LINC/PDP-12 was light and dark green, the 9 was a different
> shade of orange than the 8/e, and the 15's were light and dark blue,
> which was different from the PDP-10 blue.
> > What baud rate, parity, data bits do you use for these and do you need to
> 9600/8/n/1, no modem control
Ummm, DEC serial protocol (other than 20ma) uses "Xon-Xoff" flow control. Anything else will get you buffer overflow.
Dale
I can also make Otrona disks. I have CP/M (including source files for the BIOS and such programs as FORMAT) and MS-DOS 2.11H, that last (post bankruptcy) version. IIRC, it has hard disk support. I also have some issues of the FAUG (First Attache Users Group) newsletter and some FAUG programs on another disk.
Disks are 5.25", DS-DD.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: jim stephens [mailto:jwstephens_2000@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 5:27 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Attache Disks
I have dredged up my Atrona system and will try
to make some floppy copies for interested parties
soon.
I belive I have floppies to boot both the 8 bit
processor, and the 16 bit service processor into
MS/Dos 2.x (2.1 maybe).
I'll post again when I get the system tested and
running.
It uses standard 3 1/2" floppies (I think 720K,
again I'll have to post when I check it out).
Jim
Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> wrote:
> I had a couple of VS2000 (Same box, with graohics) and routinely used
> a nearly-standard PC-type RS-232 null modem cable. You have to short
> two pins at the VAX side, but I do not remember which two. I found the
> pinouts in some FAQ or other online.
Since DEC used a "3 wire" subset of RS-232, DTR had to be locked "on".
Dale
Dave,
What looks like the Osborne 1 video adaptor is available from Alltronics (TTL-Composite video adaptor #92C024, $4.95)
http://www.alltronics.com/computer_miscellaneous.htm
It plugs on the edge connector on the front panel, in place of the shunt that is normally there.
I believe that the only voltage supply for the monitor comes from P9 by way of P5, the edge connector on the front panel.
I once had a 9" Panasonic open frame monitor that I used with my O1. I just wired it to a female edge connector socket that I used in place of the shunt. I also added a 100K pot for brightness control.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: ghldbrd(a)ccp.com [mailto:ghldbrd@ccp.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 2:15 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Osborne 1 monitor questions
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave [mailto:dfnr2@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 2:03 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Osborne 1 monitor questions
> Hello,
>
> Thanks to the help of several of you, I have, after
> reparing the power supply, been able to verify that
> the CPU is running, and using the .PDF service manual,
> am able to get a signal on the video pin (8) after
> replacing the contrast pot. However, the monitor
> still produces no output. I have a couple of
> questions:
<snip>
>
> 2) What's the simplest way to use an external monitor
> for testing?
Wasn't there some sort of video adapter that plugged in where the jumper
was on the front panel.. ISTR it was a standard b/w NTSC monitor. One of
the surplus electronics places in CA was selling said item for about $4 or
so.
>
> 3) Does the monitor use the +12V line on the connector
> from the CPU board for all its power, including the HV
> converter?
I'd have to check the schematic, but it sounds logical (sorry Spock!)
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> David.
>
Gary Hildebrand
St. Joseph, MO
Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote:
> > Perhaps is a problem of the cable and terminal you are using.
> > I have one DEC cable with MMJ connector, and use one VT-102
> > or one Compaq Portable with Kermit using VT-102 emulation to connect
> > with the Microvax 2000.
> >
> > Just curious... Do you have in the back of the Microvax one Box with
> > three MMJ connectors ? This is neccesary to connect with one Serial
> > Terminal (someone correct me if this is a mistake)
Depending on the specific model, the "console" port is either serial 1 or serial 3. Umm, wait - VAX 2000? - you aren't talking about the "lunchbox" VAX are you, perchance?"
> You just made me remember something. Joe, dig up the OpenVMS FAQ. If
> you're trying to connect via the 9-pin (or is it 25-pin) serial connection
> you'll probably have to make a special cable to connect, the pinout on the
> KA630 class systems is a bit odd as I recall. There is a MMJ adapter, but
> they're pretty rare.
Not rare at all. The H8571-J MMJ to DB9 adapter is still an orderable part. The "new" versions aren't as sturdy, though - as they are "clamshell" construction, rather than molded.
If you make up your own "DECconnect" cable, be absolutely certain that you put the locking tabs to the same side of the cable (I always put them to the "rib" side). The signal lines are .not. symmetrical, so flipping one connector doesn't make it a "null-modem" cable - it makes it utterly useless.
Dale
> With the Ronco Home Wafer Fab Line?
>
>
I passed on a three inch Mask Aligner once, went for $25 at the Oregon State
University Auction. Was in perfect shape and locked down. I bought the 4 inch
Mask Aligner for $150 and resold it on the used market. There was still demand
for it.
It is possible to have your own production line.
I have not seen many wafers in surplus stores. Wacky Willy in PDX had some
original Wacker test wafers many years ago but none recently.
I bought about 80 test wafers from Gene Amdahl's Trilogy project which I have
been parting out on eBay and privately.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
I have the manual somewhere but not easy to find.
Try turning it on while holding the reset button down until the lights flash
on the keyboard then press and release self test then let up reset. IIRC it is
something like that.
I am on the road at the moment but will look for the manual when I return to
Astoria.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
As heard from previous messages the TU10 would be capable of reading 7 & 9
track tapes.
I have a few TU10's available if someone is interested - they are complete
but might have some mechanical defects (especially those vacuum switches
fail often) - I haven't an idea what kind of controller they need, but I
probably have him somewhere (I bought this units some 25 years ago together
with a few 11/40's - racks of core memory and a few RP03 drives)
Luc
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Van: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens Al Kossow
Verzonden: vrijdag 29 augustus 2003 0:41
Aan: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: Re: 7 track tape drives
So anybody out here knows of any 7 track drives which are still easy (?)
to get and have some kind of "usual" interfaces ?
On Aug 27, 21:58, Joe wrote:
> At 08:21 PM 8/28/03 +0100, you wrote:
> >It's over 10 years old, and it's microprocessor-compatible, but it's
an
> >analogue to digital converter chip, not a computer. It's also not
in
> >my spares box, and I need one. Does anyone have a spare? Or a data
> >sheet?
>
> Who made it?
Ferranti.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Is anyone familar with this terminal? I have one and I've been using it
for years. I never had a manual for it and it took a while to figure out
how to use it but I did and I thought I understood it. UNTIL today! Today I
turned it off to disconnect a cable, when I turned it back on it said
Factory Cycle Test and started doing all kinds of self tests and video
tests. It endlessly repeats the tests and I can't find a way to stop it! I
have no idea why it started or how to stop the tests. Does anybody know? It
has both a Self Test and Reset buttons but neither one will stop the tests.
I've tried all combinations of them and the power switch. Reset does make
it reset and start over but it goes right back to running the same tests.
The SelfTest button USUALLY causes it to run a short self test but these
tests are much more extensive. When the tests start it displays a message
using the normal seelf test to control cycling or continous tests. I'm not
sure exactly what it means but I'm guessing that they mean to use the ST
button to control wheather the tests repeat or not. However I tried the ST
button and it doesn't appear to have any effect.
Anybody have a manual for this or know how to operate it?
Joe
At 08:56 AM 8/25/03 -0600, you wrote:
>You can get a DXF-to-HPGL converter (such as
http://www.imagespro.com/programs/2287/ ), then send the HPGL to the plotter.
>
>As far as getting an old copy of AutoCAD, you can pretty much forget that.
I was referring to picking on up surplus. I see them quite often around
here.
Joe
AutoDesk has been very aggressive at maintaing their IP. The only version I
have found on the web is one customized for the DEC Rainbow. There were
some other 2D CAD packages such as TurboCAD that could read DXF, and were
available as trial or free versions. You could Google for an older version
that is compatable with your plotters.
>
>Bob
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hansp [mailto:hansp@citem.org]
>Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 3:56 AM
>To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>Subject: Re: Looking for plot data files
>
>
>Mail List wrote:
>> Hans,
>>
>> I think the "cut-away drawing of the space shuttle" was a demo .dxf
>> file that came with AutoCad.
>
>Thanks for the pointer. Searching for DXF on the web throws up a bunch
>of possible stuff. Now to figure out how to plot DXF files cheaply!
>
>I think the shuttel picture goes back further than that. Tektronix used
>it extensivly in their promotions of the 40xx series, that would be late
>70's
>
> -- hbp
> That's a good start. You should also file a complaint with the BBB
> (Better Business Bureau). Finally, for a good FTP client from a good
> company, might I suggest Van Dyke Software?
>
> http://www.vandyke.com
I don't know about your neck of the woods, Sellam, but here in Central Florida
where Joe and I live the BBB is little more than a shakedown for small
businesses. Each time they call me to solicit a membership and I tell them
that I'm not interested, they close the conversation by stating that "there
have been recent inquiries concerning your company" and "we'll get back to
those who inquired and let them know that you're not a member in good
standing and that you refused to provide us with information regarding your
business."
And BTW, what's wrong with the FTP client provided with Win9x? Sure, it's
command-line only, but IMHO beats paying for a GUI version . . .
Just my two cents worth . . .
Glen Goodwin
0/0
It's over 10 years old, and it's microprocessor-compatible, but it's an
analogue to digital converter chip, not a computer. It's also not in
my spares box, and I need one. Does anyone have a spare? Or a data
sheet?
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
First most of the ROMs for the 85 are available from my site
http://www.series80.org/Images
You will need, however, the 82929A Programmable ROM drawer
(check http://www.series80.org/Manuals/HP82929A.pdf to see how
it looks like), to be able to use the ROM image on your 85.
BTW if you have the 82929A, then you can also download the EMS
ROM which allows a far greater selection of drives to be used
with your 85.
Come to think of it, the EMS ROM code is quite small, so I wonder
if some person who understands 85 assembly can turn this into a
binary utility so that it can work elsewhere in memory.
Anyway, you may also get the Mass Storage ROM (manual at
http://www.series80.org/Manuals/HP85-MassStorage.pdf)
on eBay. This will allow the 85 to talk to 9121 3.5 inch drives which if I
am not mistaken will work with your 1631D analyzer.
Some day I may finally produce the HP 85 ROM emulator, but the way things
are going, don't hold your breath :-(
BTW I have finally managed to get a 98155A keyboard for my 9915's
(the embedded version of the the 85, brochure at
http://www.series80.org/Manuals/HP9915A.pdf)
I am also expecting a bunch of manuals for the 9915s. I hope to have them
up on my site by the end of the month.
Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> wrote:
> The 85 is a fine machine, it's too bad that they saddled it with a tape
> drive! It would have been a great machine if they would have replaced the
> tape drive with a 3.5" floppy drive.
But they did! Its called the HP Integral PC. Its faster, more compact,
has an ergonomic keyboard, and even has Unix when you want to go around
the back and fiddle with things.
Too bad its not as cute as the 85.
**vp
On the section on the 9825 it says:
> [The 9825T] also has a large warning label on outside top warning the
> user not to install any ROMs other than the 98211 Matrix ROM or the
> 98217A Flexible Disk Drive ROM. It says that installing any plug-in ROM
> that is already built into the calculator may damage the machine. I
> have never seen this warning on ANY other HP machine.
Actually the HP Series 80 computers also have a similar message (to the
effect that installing multiple copies of the same ROM could damage
the machine).
**vp
If this is a 125 inch/sec unit with 2 large vacuum columns I might have this
manual somewhere in a box deep in the cellar.
After all these years I am no longer sure about the numbers of this units.
A little confirmation please before I start digging...
Luc Vande Velde
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Van: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens emanuel stiebler
Verzonden: zondag 24 augustus 2003 23:52
Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: kennedy 9300 tape drive
Anybody out here has a manual for this one ?
cheers & thanks
I suppose they can't sell it because nobody coming around knows what it is -
i am not exactly living in a high tek area and most of their customers look
for old machinery, not for electronic stuff.
I had a little talk with the guy who runs the place this afternoon - they
bought all the electro stuff from our ex-national air company Sabena who
went to heaven after a "succesfull" joint-venture with air-suisse.
They had tons of pc stuff they could sell pretty easy (who the hell bought
all this old 486 Compaq's)
The radio equipment is only good for scrap - mostly old Pye transceivers on
very un-usual frequency bands (70MHz range) and some air-band stuff
What's left is scrapped for aluminium, copper, gold and so on... among them
this 9825A - I think I'll buy it tomorrow if they give it away for let's say
10-20 Euro
I've seen also a few dozen Ampex 16 track recorders - nice technology but
what to do with it?
Besides they are standing outside in the rain, stacked 10 high... poor
devils...
I 'll let you know what options it has...
Luc
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: cctalk-admin(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens Joe
Verzonden: woensdag 27 augustus 2003 12:50
Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Onderwerp: Re: HP 9825A rescue?
At 01:36 PM 8/28/03 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi Folks,
>
>I am not familiar with the old HP calculators.
>The local junkyard has a HP 9825A desktop calculator they can't sell
>They intend to demolish it next week - is it worth saving it? or is the
>world full of it?
Why can't they sell it?
>- is it worth saving it?
Yes but it sounds like you don't have any choice.
>or is the
>world full of it?
They're relatively common in this area but I'm close to several large
military contractors and Kennedy Space Center and they use a lot of them.
But they are neat machines and seem to run forever. It's probably one of
the best machines that HP ever built IMO. They run a OS/language called
HPL. It's a cross between APL and BASIC. Lots more details on my website at
<http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/hpdcalc.htm>.
What model is it? Open the paper cover and see what options it has.
Joe
>It looks complete and has only some minor estetic damage.
>
>gr.
>
>Luc Vande Velde
>
>
>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>Van: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org
>[mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]Namens Fritz Chwolka
>Verzonden: donderdag 21 augustus 2003 17:05
>Aan: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
>Onderwerp: Re: Anyone have copy of old BBS software
>
>
>On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:05:25 -0400, Cini, Richard wrote:
>
>>Hello, all:
>>
>> Does anyone have a copy of some old BBS software for the PC
>>platform, like WildCat, that I could get a copy of? I'd like to do some
>file
>>transfer testing among my classic platforms and thought an internal BBS
>>would be a clean way to do it.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>Rich Cini
>
>Why don't use telemate, procomm or zock and use their internal host
>like personal bbs ?
>
>BBSen even here
>
>http://www.eunet.bg/simtel.net/msdos/bbs.html
>
>and here look for telix or telemate
>
>http://www.vectorbd.com/bfd/telecomm/
>
>
>
>Greetings from
>Fritz Chwolka
>
><collecting old computers just for fun>
>> www.alterechner.de <
Good point. I generally look at prominent display of BBB membership as
akin to a warning label. But complaining does have the potential to do
some good--you might help save the next guy from getting stung if he
happens to check.
IMHO, the BBB is (as has been pointed out) a protection racket for the
more shady businesses and a means of avoiding stricter regulation by
providing the appearance of a self-policing regime.
I've run into a problem with a software company called IPSWITCH that I
thought the rest of you might like to know about before you have any
dealings with them.
As some of you already know the hard drive in my PC crashed a couple of
weeks ago. One of the programs that I lost was fully licensed and
registered copy WS-FTP that I had purchased on-line only a week before from
IPSWITCH. I did manage to recover the registration information along with
the Proof of Purchase message from IPSWITCH. On the 20th, I contacted
IPSWITCH's customer support via their website and asked for replacement
copy of the program and gave them all of the required information. That was
almost a week ago and I never heard back from them. This morning I called
them and asked about the replacement program. They said that my program had
been de-activated for FRAUD and that I would have to buy a replacement
copy! Their policy clearly says that they will provide support and a
replacement program for up to one year and since I only bought this program
on the 13th of this month, I told them that there was no way that I was
going to pay for a replacement copy and was entitled to a free replacement.
They said that because I'd failed to provide my street address FOR THE
ON-LINE PURCHASE that they had revoked my registration! As you all
realize, there's absolutely no reason for them to require me to provide my
street address for an electronic purchase. The only possible reason that
they would need that would be in they intend to sell my address to the
junk-mail services. I asked about this and the representative got evasive.
I asked to talk to their manager and was given the run around. I left a
message for the manager to call me and none ever did. I've also called them
again this afternoon and again the manager "was not available". Again I
left a message for the customer service manager to call me but I still
haven't recieved a call and I doubt that I will.
I would strongly advise anyone NOT to do business with this company! Not
only do they fail to deliver the support that they say they will but they
also don't bother to reply to e-mails or phone calls. In addition, it
appears that they WILL re-sell their customer's personal information to the
junk-mail services and I would have to assume to any others such as
SPAMMERS and telephone silicitors as well. As for me, I'm going to contact
my credit card service and have them retract my payment to IPSWITCH and I
will never do business with them again!
Joe
Grab it Jay!
Joe
At 09:52 PM 8/27/03 -0500, you wrote:
>Seeing the HP-85 thread on the list, I remembered that I had one of these
>I wanted to get rid of. I'm asking $20 + shipping for it. I'm in West
>Lafayette, IN.
>
>Pat
>--
>Purdue University ITAP/RCS
>Information Technology at Purdue
>Research Computing and Storage
>http://www.itap.purdue.edu/rcs/
I have a source willing to get me 4 RL02 drives, a bunch of cartridges for
same, and a bunch of RK05 packs - all located in Rochester, NY. He's not sure
he wants to ship. Any chance a listmember could pick up for me and ship for a
fee?
>From same source I might also get a microvax, RSX distros and manuals, etc.
I now have an RK05 drive, so I am hoping to get my 8E up and running in a real
fashion. Still need 16 sector packs for the RK05 though. Oh, and I also
recently acquired an HP-85, man that thing is cute! Anyone have an assembler
rom module they will part with, and an advanced programming rom? Or better
yet, has anyone managed to reproduce the ... whatsit called... rom programming
pack, so you can copy the roms and use them that way?
Jay West
If anyone is looking for a TRS-80 Color Computer 2, this
gentleman is hoping to sell one. Contact me for his
e-mail address.
>I have a Radio Shack TRS-80 Color Computer 2 for sale name your price.
>Seems in good condition untested. Cables included and in original box. It
>is the extended 16k. Also if interested please state your way of payment.
>I don't know how much shipping will cost I will find out though if interested.
Cheers,
Dan
Hello.
> I have access to licenced VMS install CDs that came with some uVaxen
> some time ago at the University where I work. The systems have been
> surplussed long ago but we kept the software. If there a decent
> (free) emulator that will run these on a Windows/XP or Linux PC?
http://simh.trailing-edge.com
> The ones I've found on the net would appear to be either
> commercial or > sufficiently cut down or incomplete as not to be
> practical, but this is just from reading, not from using.
> I'd be delighted to be proven wrong.
Of course, I think that "cut down" is not exactly when you refers
to SIMH :-)
Cheers
Sergio
> and the Snoopy calendar series)
>
I had a copy of the Snoopy 1976? ASCII calendar. It came with my Litton 1251
and was on punch tape.
Paxton Hoag
Astoria, OR
Yes, I would love to get that file too! (all of them)
Since I work for Oc? and have access to A0 format plotters
I would like to hang that plot on my wall, at work *and*
at home too. Check out http://home.hetnet.nl/~tshaj and
click on the starfield image ...
- Henk.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Graham Toal [mailto:gtoal@gtoal.com]
> Sent: donderdag 28 augustus 2003 10:19
> To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Looking for plot data files
>
> I looked around a few times for the plot files that used
> to be commonly hung on office walls around 76-78 which were
> proper engineering drawings of the USS Enterprise
> (the original, no bloody A, B, C or D...)
>
> Although a few people have produced drawings in more recent
> times I could never find those early ones.
>
> (What I did find relatively recently were the printer ascii art
> files for Susie (girl on a chair) and the Snoopy calendar series)
>
> Graham
I looked around a few times for the plot files that used to be commonly
hung on office walls around 76-78 which were proper engineering drawings
of the USS Enterprise (the original, no bloody A, B, C or D...)
Although a few people have produced drawings in more recent times I
could never find those early ones.
(What I did find relatively recently were the printer ascii art files
for Susie (girl on a chair) and the Snoopy calendar series)
Graham
>> At the age of 47 I have finally reached the pinnacle of riffraffism, I
>>get two hair cuts a year, shave once a week, wear scratched bifocals,
>> drive a Ford F450 Super duty, Diesel no less, have a Jack Russell
terrier
>> named George, often fart in public and, are you ready for this, use a
>> Packard Bell as my primary computer. Any one care to try and beat
that?
>>
>> Riffraff Rich
Stephenson
>Now I'm sure we're related. --Patrick
Now we got em going Uncle Patrick ;-()
Rich
Last week I found in the local junkyard a Logic Analyzer Model PM3551A
The unit powers up and seems to be basically working but there are no
probes.
Has anyone an idea what kind of probes are needed (I hope they are
passive)and connection information?
A copy of the user/maintenance manual would also be nice.
gr.
Luc Vande Velde