Hello Tony,
I am having a little problem finding info for this part and I found you
comment on the internet that you have the databook.
I am doing a small repair that calls out for ZN448E-8 but I only found
info on ZN448E.
Are these the same part? Any information is much appreciated.
Regards,
Andrew
Hi.
Nice to know
these
listings have
been found.
The game
brings back
fond
memories.
The 2000
was the first
mini I
programmed
on, in
college.
I have read
all the
replies, and
no one has
suggested
what I am
about to
suggest,
so here it is:
In order to
do a really
good job of
sanity
checking, it
would help if
we could
see
the listings
to compare
with what
has-been/wil
l-be typed.
People will
want to
port it to
other close
version of
basic
(hp-eloquen
ce) or
BASICV on
the 3000,
and
a typo is
always a
problem with
languages
that dont
necessarily
declare
variables
before
assigning
things to it.
So, if you
had a way of
scanning the
listings and
making them
available on
your web
site,
that would
be a boon
to
everyone.
Assuming
the listings
are in good
enough
shape to
scan.
As well, you
could then
spread to
work around!
Just my 2
cents
worth...
Thanks
Michel Adam
micheladam
@theedge.c
a
----- Original
Message
-----
From: Pete
Turnbull
<pete@dunn
ington.u-net.
com>
Date:
Monday,
November
10, 2003
4:17 pm
Subject: HP
2000 BASIC
help /
TREK73
> I need
some help
with some
HP 2000
BASIC. I
probably
last used it
> around
1980, and
not often
even then
for
somehow
the PDP-8s
looked
>
moreattracti
ve than the
grey HP box
in the same
room. Yeah,
I know
>
betternow.
Luckily, I'm
sure some
of you can
help me
out...
>
> I've been
retyping
TREK73
>from a fairly
poor-quality
listing, and it
> needs a
sanity
check. Also
I'd like to
learn a bit
more about
what
> I'mtyping.
This is the
original
source for
the Star
Trek
program by
> William
Char and
friends, and
what I've
typed so far
is on my
Star
> Trekweb
page at
http://www.
dunnington.u
-net.com/pu
blic/startrek
/
>
> I've added
some other
stuff to that
page, too.
>
> Questions:
>
> All the
lines have
two spaces
between the
line number
and the
code.
> All, that is,
except for a
few that
have an '@'
in place of
the
>
secondspac
e. Is that
significant
(does it
mean
"ignore this"
or
>
something?)
or is it just
an artifact
of a noisy
Teletype
line?
> (The
listing
> appears
to have
been made
on a
Teletype,
which
needed a
new ribbon
and
> a better
platen
roller.)
>
> What
does '14 in
a PRINT
statement,
in front of a
quoted
string,
> mean(eg
in PRINT
'14"SULU")?
I wondered
if it were
something
like
>
PRINTTAB(1
4)"... but
there are
TAB()s
elsewhere.
A control
character,
> perhaps?
If cursor or
screen
control, are
they octal
or decimal
(I'd
> guess
decimal) and
is there a
table
anywhere?
>
> What
exactly do
the first two
parameters
to the
ENTER
command
do?
>
Theyalways
seem to
have three
variables
(eg ENTER
T2,T,X$).
>
> That'll do
for now :-)
>
> If anyone
would like to
proofread
what I've
retyped so
far (about
half
> the total)
and check
for obvious
sillies,
please do -
especially in
> TREK0
around line
740 (cf line
840).
Better still, if
anyone is
> willing to
actually try
this out,
please do!
though it
won't work
very
> well with
half of it
missing.
>
> --
> Pete
Peter
Turnbull
>
Network
Manager
>
University of
York
>
> I have some repair info for the OMTI 5000 series, such as pinouts of the
> ASICs, and the like.
>
> -tony
> Useless data for those who care.
What Tony actually has are the ASIC specs for the 5000 series, which
originally came from me, not just the pinouts.
--
> Some time after we had talked to them (and found out about the name), the
> sold it all to SMC
OMTI was sold to SMS, not SMC. See www.bitsavers.com/pdf/sms
Somewhere, I think DTC was connected to all of this as well. I'll have to
ask the people I knew who worked at Shugart.
Hi
This may not even be a s100 board. The height is wrong. Check
the power leads carefully before plugging into a s100. It
does seem to be a complete single board computer.
Dwight
>From: "Ian Primus" <ian_primus(a)yahoo.com>
>
>I recently acquired this board, it appears to be an S100 board, since
>it has the 100 pin connector and voltage regulators onboard. Does
>anyone know what this is, or what it came from? In the upper right
>corner, it says "Dynatech NEWSTAR 1MP481 REV. A (C) 1990" The board has
>a Z80, a 27128 EPROM, an 8k static RAM, some 41c256 DRAMS, a Z80 SIO,
>some RS-232 line driver pairs (1488/1489), and two 26 pin headers,
>which appear to be serial ports.
>
>Here is a picture I took:
>http://24.194.65.231/images/unknownboard.jpg
>
>It appears to be a complete Z80 computer on a board, so I would imagine
>that it would be possible to power it up, and connect a terminal to it,
>but I don't know if it would do anything. Any information on what this
>could be, or what it might do would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Ian Primus
>ian_primus(a)yahoo.com
>
>
I need some help with some HP 2000 BASIC. I probably last used it
around 1980, and not often even then for somehow the PDP-8s looked more
attractive than the grey HP box in the same room. Yeah, I know better
now. Luckily, I'm sure some of you can help me out...
I've been retyping TREK73 from a fairly poor-quality listing, and it
needs a sanity check. Also I'd like to learn a bit more about what I'm
typing. This is the original source for the Star Trek program by
William Char and friends, and what I've typed so far is on my Star Trek
web page at http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/startrek/
I've added some other stuff to that page, too.
Questions:
All the lines have two spaces between the line number and the code.
All, that is, except for a few that have an '@' in place of the second
space. Is that significant (does it mean "ignore this" or something?)
or is it just an artifact of a noisy Teletype line? (The listing
appears to have been made on a Teletype, which needed a new ribbon and
a better platen roller.)
What does '14 in a PRINT statement, in front of a quoted string, mean
(eg in PRINT '14"SULU")? I wondered if it were something like PRINT
TAB(14)"... but there are TAB()s elsewhere. A control character,
perhaps? If cursor or screen control, are they octal or decimal (I'd
guess decimal) and is there a table anywhere?
What exactly do the first two parameters to the ENTER command do? They
always seem to have three variables (eg ENTER T2,T,X$).
That'll do for now :-)
If anyone would like to proofread what I've retyped so far (about half
the total) and check for obvious sillies, please do - especially in
TREK0 around line 740 (cf line 840). Better still, if anyone is
willing to actually try this out, please do! though it won't work very
well with half of it missing.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
I hate that my backspace key generates some ugly help menu instead of
backspacing
can I do anything about it? (running emacs_nox in xterm under X)
Linux Slackware 3.0 1995 - Emacs.
Thanks..
Any convenient to Greater London (preferably accessible by public
transport)???
Also, what about the continent? I've heard about flea markets in Paris
(Clignancourt and Montreuil come to mind): any computery stuff there?
Thanks!
On Nov 10, 23:53, Eric Smith wrote:
> "John K." <john3000(a)cox.net>
> > some day I'll get my set of HIB tapes back
> [...]
> > there were
> > many games and programs from HP 2000 ACCESS vers. 1812 on that tape
set
> > (which dates from Jan. 1984). I'd love to see them run again.
>
> I've written a package "tsbutils" which contains two programs that
are
> useful with HP 2000 Access hibernate and dump tapes
While they're not immediately useful to me, I've noted that for
reference. What I really would like is an HP 2000 (2100?) emulator.
I've found Jeff Moffat's but not tried it yet. Is there anything else
I should look for?
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Well, I hope that didn't turn out too bad. The article is actually about
market values of Sinclair machines and things like the Black Watch and will
be in the Financial Times in a couple of saturdays.
I basically spent an hour deriding ebay and emphasising the historical side
of collecting for exhibition and educational purposes, not financial.
Apparently I'm not the only one he's spoken to that thinks that, though
there's also been others who've said stupid things like 'turn up with a
non-yellowed zx80 and I'll give you ?400 for it'
We both agreed that it was highly unlikely you WOULD get ?400 if you did
that.
The journalist is speaking to a lot more people and at present he's on the
fence between telling people to sell their MK14s now and telling people to
hold onto them. Naturally I told him to tell people to give things like that
to me :o) The current ebay situation with Zebra ZX81 kits is a good example
of how greed can go wrong......
On a sort of unrelated note it's idiot week on ebay again - a battered
looking yellowed ZX80 is currently at ?155 despite it only having the bottom
sorry looking poly, PSU and manual.....many days left to go, too. Meh.
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(
Since the person who initially wanted this thing never
replied to me, and I now have it here, I guess it's
available to anyone who wants it.
It looks OK, comes with 4 tapes, and the *US* power supply
brick. Not the connecting cable, so it seems.
Do me an entertaining offer, or I'll put it up on ePay.
--f
I have aquired the following Series 80 software on 3.5" and 5.25" discs:
If anyone with any titles not listed below would like to trade email me.
Thanks
HP85
1. Standard Pac
2. Training Pac
3. Math Pac
4. Text Editing Pac
5. Graphics Presentation Pac
6. General Statistics Pac
7. Basic Statistics & Data Manipulation Pac
8. Regression Analysis Pac
9. Linear Programming Pac
10. Waveform Analysis Pac
11. AC Circuit Analysis Pac
12. Data Communications Pac
13. Information Management Pac
14. File Management Pac
15. Assembler
16. Modem Software
17. Speech Synthesis
18. Graphics Tablet (2 discs)
19. VisiCalc Plus
20. Portfolio Management (3 disc set)
HP86/87
1. Math Pac
2. Demonstration Disc
3. Arcade Games Disc
4. Linear Programming Pac
5. General Statistics Pac
6. Basic Statistics & Data Manipulation Pac
7. Data Communications Pac
8. Assembler
9. Modem Software
10. Speech synthesis
11. CP/M Operating System
12. VisiCalc Plus
13. Word/80
14. File for 80 Series (5 disk set)
15. Series 80 Graphic Presentations
16. Portfolio Management (3 disc set)
17. USCD Pascal
Yes, the 5285 is a dumb terminal.
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I read your entry on some bulliten board about your NEC MULTISPEED HD. I
just recently acquired one and it runs fine, just not sure if the backup battery
works. For now Im running it with the original NEC a/c power pack. The only
"problem" that I can find is at the startup it says "bad or missing /dd.bin"
but other than that all directories on the hard drive are accessible and floppy
drive works fine (even though its only a 720kb 3 1/2") If your interested in
this computer, make me an offer and we can work something out.
Thanks
Bryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nico de Jong" <nico(a)farumdata.dk>
To: "Geoff Reed" <geoffr(a)zipcon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: OMT MFM 5200 disk controller board
> Hi Geoff
>
> The 512 and 7250's come in pairs.
> The 512 is an 8 bit SCSI controller. I have the strapping documentation
> available. The 7250 connects to the 512 (cables available).
> The 7250 has the following connectors :
> J1 - 50 pin SCSI interface
> J2 - 34 pin ESDI or MFM disk control connector
> J3, J4 - 20 pin data cable connector
> J7 - 34 pin floppy connector
> J10 - power connector (like 5.25" floppy disk, but DONT connect the +12V.
It
> will fry the board....)
>
> The 512 supports up to seven SCSI devices. It can be strapped to 4 IO
> adresses.
>
> The major thing is the software. Originally, it was used with the EMS
Media
> Conversion software. The card has a BIOS socket, but I've never seen the
> BIOS. A qualified guess is therefore that you can only use the cards if
you
> have the EMS software, unless you can find a BIOS.
> As the software rights were sold to IBM in 1993, I sincerely doubt if I
can
> give you a copy of the software. The EMS company went belly up, and IBM
> bought the assets.
>
> Nico
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Reed" <geoffr(a)zipcon.net>
> To: <nico(a)farumdata.dk>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 7:59 AM
> Subject: Re: OMT MFM 5200 disk controller board
>
>
> > are the OMTI's you have SASI to MFM cards? I am looking for some for
> > TRS-80 use.
> >
I am looking to repair my OMT 5200 bd and came across your find of these MFM controllers.
Do you still have them and are the boards functional?
Kindly let me know,by E-mail.
Regards
Giles Mascarenhas
No, a very
anchored
Mac 7500
running OS
9.1 and IE
5.1 . It
looked ok on
the screen,
and I only
saw the
result when
the post
came back.
Something
is/was
wrong with
the Java VM
on it, as
best I can
determine.
Time to
downgrade
to OS 8.6...
Hopefully
this reply will
come across
better.
Michel Adam
----- Original
Message
-----
From:
Vintage
Computer
Festival
<vcf@siconi
c.com>
Date:
Tuesday,
November
11, 2003
7:15 pm
Subject: Re:
HP 2000
BASIC help /
TREK73
>
> Was this
message
typed on a
mobile
phone or
something?
:)
>
> On Tue,
11 Nov
2003,
Michel Adam
wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > Nice to
know
> > these
> > listings
have
> > been
found.
> > The
game
> > brings
back
> > fond
> >
memories.
> >
> > The
2000
> > was the
first
> > mini I
> >
programmed
> > on, in
> > college.
>
>
<snipificatio
n>
>
> --
>
> Sellam
Ismail
Vintage
> Computer
Festival
>
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>
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de Vintage
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>
Hey, how you doing.. I was doing a search for TM990 for work and came across your message.
I work on that antique stuff you have come across. TI had two calculator type programmers.
These units were used with the 5TI sequencers and PM550 PLC's. This stuff is still being used in industry for
controlling machines. I've had to refurbish a couple of the larger calculator type programmers last year.
They are a polled RS232 device that only talks when told to by the PLC / Sequencer.
http://www.datamath.org/
This is where i got the pictures...
There is some thrill rebuilding these things hooking them up and punching in some ladder logic and watching
the flashing lights on the I/O racks..
Some of the stuff you pick up may still bring a decent price on ebay..
Even this old seemingly antique stuff..
Just my .02
Duane Hofstetter
ke8bg(a)triad.rr.com
duaneh(a)delta-control.com
http://www.delta-control.com
I asked this in alt.sys.pdp8, but didn't get the answer, so I will try here:
When I got my PDP-8/i (oh so many years ago), it came with a supply of
flip-chip spares. Among them are 24 M750s, which I can't find any
info about, except the phrase "Line I/O Control".
What are they for? They aren't for any of the 8/i's built-in options,
so there must be an external option that calls for them? Is there a
reason for me to keep so many of the things?
Thanks!
Vince
Try:
http://www.hp-eloquence.com/download/
The package is mainly for a re-implementation of the HP3000
IMAGE
database on different platforms, but it started life when HP
discontinued
the HP 250s years ago, and it includes a version of BASIC that is
probably
closest to the 2000 ACCESS, other than BASIC V on the 3000s.
The latest version has departed from using line numbers, but I
think version 6
still fully support a line-number mode for the basic language.
If not, you may have to go back to version 5.
Michel Adam
----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: HP 2000 BASIC help / TREK73
> On Nov 10, 23:53, Eric Smith wrote:
> > "John K." <john3000(a)cox.net>
> > > some day I'll get my set of HIB tapes back
> > [...]
> > > there were
> > > many games and programs from HP 2000 ACCESS vers.
1812 on that
> tapeset
> > > (which dates from Jan. 1984). I'd love to see them run again.
> >
> > I've written a package "tsbutils" which contains two programs
that
> are
> > useful with HP 2000 Access hibernate and dump tapes
>
> While they're not immediately useful to me, I've noted that for
> reference. What I really would like is an HP 2000 (2100?)
emulator.
> I've found Jeff Moffat's but not tried it yet. Is there anything
> elseI should look for?
>
> --
> Pete Peter Turnbull
> Network Manager
> University of York
>
On Nov 11, 9:39, Bill McDermith wrote:
> There is a copy of the 2000F Reference Manual on Al Kossow's site at:
>
> http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/hp/2000TSB/2000F-rm-300.pdf
>
> That would have answers to your questions...
Undoubtedly. Thanks!
Did that come from Eric Smith? I've read Eric's pages, and found a
link to Jeff Moffat's HP2100 archive.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Nov 11, 9:02, Joe wrote:
> Pete,
>
> Very cool! You even included the Intel MDS version!
Thank you :-) I can't quite remember why I started collecting so many
different versions of Star Trek, but if anyone has any other
interesting versons, I'd be happy to put them on the page.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Thank you Gene for coming up with the name of the movie that had the CDC equipment in it. This board can get answers to ANY question I do believe.
Bill
On Nov 10, 22:50, Frank McConnell wrote:
> Pete Turnbull <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> wrote:
> > All the lines have two spaces between the line number and the code.
> > All, that is, except for a few that have an '@' in place of the
second
> > space.
> Noisy line, most likely. I don't think it has any significance.
OK.
> > What does '14 in a PRINT statement
> The leading single quote outside double quotes is how HP BASIC (2000
> and 3000) represent a non-printable character in a string constant.
> So '14 is decimal 14 as a character, or control-N.
Makes sense.
> > What exactly do the first two parameters to the ENTER command do?
> I don't recall the details clearly, I'm thinking one is a limit in
> seconds on the time the user has to reply, and I'm thinking the other
> is used to return the time it took the user to enter the reply.
That makes sense too.
Thanks to everyone who has replied. Now all I need is a machine to run
it on (or an emulator). Any suggestions?
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Nov 11, 1:27, John K. wrote:
> At 2003-11-10 04:17 PM, Pete Turnbull wrote:
> > I need some help with some HP 2000 BASIC.
> HP 2000 BASIC placed printing characters inside double-quotes (") and
used
> the apostrophe notation for non-printing characters. The apostrophe
was
> followed by the decimal value of the character that belonged at that
point
> in the string. Thus, any character in the extended ASCII character
set
> could be expressed using the apostrophe notation ('0 through '255).
This makes sense.
> The '14 was used to instruct an HP terminal (probably an HP2640,
HP2645, or
> near the end of support for the HP2000 ACCESS, the HP2621 and HP2624)
to
> switch to the alternate (usually line drawing) character set. The
'15 was
> used to switch back to the normal character set.
>From other information about the origin of TREK73 (see Kermit Murray's
page at http://ch309c.chem.lsu.edu/~kmurray/other/trek73/), and knowing
where my listing came from, I'm pretty certain it was intended to be
run using a Teletype [AK]SR33. On that machine, SO (decimal 14 is
Shift Out) would, as far as I remember, switch to the second colour if
you had a two-colour ribbon. And SI (decimal 15) would shift back.
OK, I can see a use for that, though it's slightly odd in that the
lines where it occurs aren't particularly special, and the text is
bracketed by a pair of '14, not by '14 and '15 as I'd expect. My ASR33
only has a black ribbon, so I can't check if SO is cancelled at the end
of a line (I have a feeling it might be). Oh, well, I better finish
typing and find a way of trying it out...
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Nov 10, 21:34, Frank Schickel wrote:
> I programmed a little bit on 2000F and may retain a little
> bit....
[...]
> If it's a straight "LIST" of the program, then the format would
> be a standard format of the line number followed by two spaces; so
> I would bet that the @s are spurious and can be ignored.
OK, I guess it's just line noise, and I'll remove them. There's
another place where there's something that doesn't quite make sense to
me (yet) so I'll have a closer look there too (line 740 in TREK1).
> > What does '14 in a PRINT statement, in front of a quoted string,
mean
>
> I'm not sure about this one, but this may have been a way to print
> control characters in a PRINT statement without using CHR$(). If so,
> what would a control-n do on a teletype? I thought it *might* be
octal,
> but that would make it a form-feed, which wouldn't make much sense
> in the status sections because it would print <FF>TORPEDOES<FF> and
> then the status, which would waste a *lot* of paper....
I wondered about octal, but decimal 14 is Shift Out which makes more
sense. Sort of. See my reply to John K.
> > What exactly do the first two parameters to the ENTER command do?
>
> If I remember rightly, ENTER lets you get
> the time the user takes to enter the input. It looks like it's
probably
> "ENTER <time allowed>, <time taken>, <input>".
I'm sure that's it. The code has provision for various null inputs
too.
> This brings back memories. I never could get into this one, since I
> could never get the proper strategy figured out. I preferred the
> other TREK where you had to eliminate the Klingons in the galaxy....
Oh, I have a few of those online, too :-)
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
>Apple? Old stuff? Hahaha. I'd be surprised if they still have last
>month's Macintosh model sitting in some back closet somewhere.
Actually, Apple has a testing lab that has a pretty wide range of old
Macs running assorted mac OS versions. Its even free to use if you are an
Apple Developer. The catch is, its in Cupertino, and you have to do the
testing yourself, so unless you are local, or have a good budget, its
tough to use. Poor shareware developers like me have to depend on our own
collection of old macs (of which I just liquidated 95% of my own).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Hi!
I once again tried to get my PDP-8/L to run this weekend. Unfortunately
I am not not yet a PDP professional - I don't have a clue what most of
the modules are doing. I started to read the Maintenance Manuals but I
do not quite know where to start. Maybe you can give me a hint:
I tried the "simpler" instructions like set accumulator, or accumulator
with switch reg. etc.
What I did not yet try are the different jump instructions. I will be
more specific as soon as I tried more instructions.
CLA and STA work, i can set all bits in AC. IAC (increment) and all the
rotate instructions however always set AC to 1 completely ignoring the
previous value.
Where should I start looking for the problem? What information do I have
to gather to narrow down the source of the problem?
Regards,
Sebastian
Does anyone remember the name of the movie that came out in the mid 60s that had a CDC 3600 (I think) as a background in part of it. I had a friend who told me he was the CDC rep during the shooting of the movie, but it's been so long ago I've forgotten the name of it. He said all he had to do was go in each morning and bring the system up and make sure all the lights were flashing, that was the important thing about it. It was definitely a CDC computer, since my friend worked at CDC, but I am not real sure about the model. It was, of course a sci-fi movie....
Thanks for any help and there are movies other than TRON.
Bill Machacek
lo,
are we talking about the Tron movie from 1982?
I just grabbed it in digital format.
--f
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From: "Hans Franke" <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>
> > If you got a Lisa-1 to sell...I'd gladly pay $1K!
>
> > I'm a big Lisa fan, but don't have $8-10K to pay for one...I'd rather
> > spend it on my other love - A Lotus Esprit!
>
> Now, if you would ask about a cheap Lotus, I might help,
> since a friend of mine deals with such kind of cars.
This is way off-topic, but there is no such thing as a cheap Lotus. You either
pay up front or pay later.
alan perry
Admin of the original Lotus Cars mailing list
Editor for the Seattle area Lotus club newsletter
Former editor for the San Francisco area Lotus club newsletter
Former officer in the Los Angeles and San Francisco area Lotus clubs
Owner of a Lotus Elise
Former owner of a Lotus Esprit and two Lotus Europas
... get the idea
BTW, for Hans, former contractor at Siemens-Nixdorf in Neu Perlach (Munich)
Also, if the indy has accounts with login allowed (like guest, lp, etc),
and no shadow passwords, you can log in as one of those accounts, grab
the password hash for root from /etc/passwd, and crack it on another
machine. I got into a IRIX 6.2 box this way. IRIX 6.5 I believe uses
shadow passwords by default so you might be out of luck there for an
"easy" solution.
--
Ryan Underwood, <nemesis(a)icequake.net>
OK, my Indy is now (almost) all working. I need to change the monitor refresh
rate, but I can't do that unless I can log in. I don't have the root pwd either.
Apparently you can't go to single user without the root pwd. I can do just
about anything -- I have a serial console hookup, but no root to go with it :(
I can't get it on a network either... I tried using the setenv command to set
the IP to a local address, but I don't think it works (new to IRIX/SGI, so that
may be way off!)
Anyone have any ideas? I already tried most of the normal ones -- guest, tours,
lp, etc. and found them to be closed! Jeez, just what I need... a security
consious admin!
I have no floppy or CDROM installed on this, nor do I have a SCSI adapter to
mount the drives under linux and do the deed the _simple_ way. I also lack IRIX
media.
Any thoughts? I don't want to buy many more components... but I guess that if I
have to, I can make a few more purchases...
Thanks!
Owen
Next time I visit my parents I will be pulling my TRON electronic game out
of storage... It looks like a mini arcade machine and had three or four
games.
Now the question: What causes batteries to start leaking? I am worried
that there may have (now) 15 year old batteries in it. :(
Cheers,
Bryan
Hello Arlen,
I am a consulting engineer working with a client up in Sacramento, CA that
has a Model AA-545 development system (S/N 5129 CEI) used to program a Motorola
MC68HC05C8 microprocessor back in the late 1980's. We are also interested in
learning more about this system and if there is someone out there who could use
it... We do have some 5 1/4 in floppy's (MS -DOS 2.0) for the system. Did you
ever find any further information during your search in July? Perhaps we can
in some way help eachother?
Regards,
Chuck Clemens
Medical Device Development Consulting
Office: 760-942-2272
Cell: 760-613-2272
Fax: 760-436-9476
Net: clemensco(a)aol.com
I am looking for a hard drive for my MAC SE. I would need the cable to
connect it to my computer. An external HD would be ok if you dont have an
internal one.
Thanks
Bill
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I recently acquired this board, it appears to be an S100 board, since
it has the 100 pin connector and voltage regulators onboard. Does
anyone know what this is, or what it came from? In the upper right
corner, it says "Dynatech NEWSTAR 1MP481 REV. A (C) 1990" The board has
a Z80, a 27128 EPROM, an 8k static RAM, some 41c256 DRAMS, a Z80 SIO,
some RS-232 line driver pairs (1488/1489), and two 26 pin headers,
which appear to be serial ports.
Here is a picture I took:
http://24.194.65.231/images/unknownboard.jpg
It appears to be a complete Z80 computer on a board, so I would imagine
that it would be possible to power it up, and connect a terminal to it,
but I don't know if it would do anything. Any information on what this
could be, or what it might do would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Ian Primus
ian_primus(a)yahoo.com
I'm trying to get a Magnolia floppy controller running in an H89, and I'm
having some odd problems.
The Magnolia controller apparently requires their own monitor ROM, which I
have (444-84B revision 10). It's my understanding that this ROM actually
negotiates the baud rate with the terminal logic board rather than requiring
a fixed 9600 as the Heath ROMs do. However, when I have this ROM installed,
the machine doesn't seem to be able to "sync". The CPU and TLB speak
together perfectly with the normal Heath ROM (444-84 or 444-142), so I'm
inclined to rule out problems with the UARTs, transceivers, and cables. But
most of the time the screen spouts gibberish with the Magnolia ROM in place,
and when it does sync up, I can't type more than a few characters before
things go to pot. I've also gotten the same behavior with two known-good
CPU boards.
Any suggestions? Does anyone know if revision 10 is a good version of
Magnolia's ROM, or do I have it because the guy I got it from uses version
11 in his '89? :-)
This controller supports a variety of 5-1/4" formats, as well as 8" drives,
so I'd love to get it running.
Thanks!
Patrick
P.S. Yes, I do have the "other" recommended Magnolia PROMs in place... full
set is 444-83 (Heath), 444-61 (Heath) and 444-66B (Magnolia). --P
I regularly receive messages for this group with proper-looking titles and
all (Such as "Subject: cctech Digest, Vol 3, Issue 15" )
Am I alone? Whatever is generating these things is fairly clever to even
change the subject line to resemble the rising issue numbers of the current
volume. It makes me wonder if it is in the "cctech Digest" server. I
have never investigated what the removed content looks like to determine if
something is being incorrectly identified as a virus.
Bob
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I just got a kit off ebay (Item # 3056408822) that is pretty much a complete
kit for working on HP 7905/06 type drives. Thing even includes an air
pressure guage :)
However, I actually HAVE most of the parts in this kit already, most of the
boards and the DSU. However, my DSU has most of it's switches broken off and
hasn't yet been tested. This also means I now have two alignment packs, two
extenders, etc. etc. As a result I'll be taking my partial kit to ebay to
recoup the costs of this complete kit. If anyone here is interested, let me
know within a few days and we can work out a trade or something before I go
the ebay route.
Jay West
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On Nov 4, 15:14, JP Hindin wrote:
> > > http://www.innergeek.us/geek.html
>
> Geeky enough that I can't use the damned thing because the twerp that
> wrote it only allows the use of JavaScript to do the point counting,
and
> my browser is so old it doesn't support that :P
I had almost that problem -- mine does Javascript but it's normally
switched off.
Final result was 34.31953% - Total Geek.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
I am playing with an old Cubix Power SMP system, but I don't have the
breakout box for the video/mouse /keyboard connector. Does anyone have the pinout
for that connector so I can build a breakout box? I have looked on the Cubix
website and searched everywhere.
Thanks in advance
Tom
>Please tell me that you are kidding!!! Cats don't need a TV and VCR!!
Nope not kidding in the least.
And trust me, when you have a room of 30 cats of assorted ages, they most
definitly DO watch the TV to pass time. Companies even make videos
specifically for the purpose. They are of birds or other animals that a
cat would normally chase.
Its not as if they are watching Matlock reruns or anything. These are
videos of small animals flying or running around the screen. Basically,
its a video version of pulling a cat toy around on a string. Lots of
movement and sound, zero plot.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
> For the best info on this board, see the following manuals:
> HP1000 M/E/F-Series Firmware Installation and Service Manual 12791-90001.
The 83 and 86 versions of the document are now up at www.bitsavers.org/pdf/hp/1000
Evenin' folks,
I've updated my Lisa page to include most of the software I've got,
including Lisa OS V2 and V3.1 plus apps, Lisa PASCAL Workshop V2 and V3,
Lisa BASIC (not tested that one), DART and Diskcopy 4.2. I *think* Lisa OS
V1 is in there too but the filenames don't make it obvious.
Let me know if any of them don't work - I can't test ATM 'cos my main Mac is
on the floor while I'm rejigging my geekosphere :o)
cheers
--
adrian/witchy
www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum
www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(
My company has various DEC and DEC-compatible components (with manuals for most) that need a new home. Most of the stuff works (the last time I tried it).
I also have a fairly comprehensive set of RSX-11M and RSX-11M-PLUS manuals and software distribution tapes.
I hate to see these things scrapped. They paid my rent for more than a decade. So, if anyone is interested in becoming a foster parent or knows of someone, please let me know.
Wayne Zafft
> You're not supposed to view them in your web browser.
It should work fine that way, assuming the pdf plugin is sending the
right html commands to the web server. I see people reading docs this
way all the time.
To answer the original question, the WCS card is documented in the
1000 M/E/F Engineering Reference
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/hp/1000/1000_MEF_EngrRef/
92851-90001_Mar81_6.pdf section B
Picked up this card today. PN 13197-60001. Anyone have any info on it? I
TRIED to use Al's new website to check the HP 1000 CE manual. It over ten
minutes to load the FIRST page and I couldn't load any more. Has anyone
else tried it and are you having problems with it?
Joe
I came out 33.72871...
Cheers...
Ed Tillman
Store Automation Tech Support Specialist
Valero Energy Corporation
San Antonio, Texas, USA
Office: (210)592-3110, Fax (210)592-2048
Email: edward.tillman(a)valero.com <mailto:edward.tillman@valero.com>
-----Original Message-----
From: David Woyciesjes [mailto:dwoyciesjes@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:20 PM
To: ClassicCMP
Subject: The Geek Test...
How many of you have seen this one?
http://www.innergeek.us/geek.html
I only got a 7.88955% result...
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--- Dave Woyciesjes
--- ICQ# 905818
I have some old tape backup drives I'm getting rid of. I know some of you
do data conversion services, so if one of you that does that wants one
(or all), they can be had for the cost of shipping.
I have a Maynard 150 MB drive plus 14 tapes, a few connecting cables and
some ISA and MCA interface cards. This is an external drive, with manual
and software (complete setup).
Also an Iomega Tape 250 drive and a stack of tapes (not sure the number,
but about a dozen or more). This is an internal drive, manual, cables,
software are with it.
And a Colorado 250 drive. No tapes. External drive, no cables, software,
manuals or power supply.
And an unknown internal tape drive. All the front says is "250 MB", so
its obviously a 250 MB drive. I don't know who makes it or anything else
about it. There are no obvious markings on it to determine who makes it.
I have no tapes for it, or software or manuals. There is a cable attached
to it, looks like it plugs inline into the floppy controller.
Also I have a cassette tape drive. Its a TEAC something in an external
SCSI case. Uses 120 MB cassette tapes IIRC. I was never able to find the
correct tapes for it. I do have a box of the wrong tapes however.
Like I said, these are all available for cost of shipping. Preference
will go to someone that will use them for data conversion or recovery
services (or anything else that directly supports classic computers). But
anyone that wants them can ask for them... I'd rather they go to someone
instead of the dumpster.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Hi, All
I just tried to boot my Motorola s8000 which has a 68030
and SCSI controller. All are
Motorola Mvme cards . The system lost the boot path. ???
If I use BO 2,0 it finds the
IPL loader but needs the file name to boot. I can't seem
to guess the right name. Is there
a way to interface with the IPL or a way to read the boot
path directory. I have no manuals
on this or OS tapes.
I would also like to find any of the manuals and OS tapes
for this.
It has a MVME141 processor, and a MVME327 SCSI card. I
don't really
remember the UNIX version I believe it was 5.3. This has 4
SCSI drives
and only the 2,0 finds the IPL loader.
- Jerry
Good(ish) news! I plugged in the 13w3 adapter to my Indy, and then a
good Sony Trinitron monitor -- and it WORKS! Well... the opening screen
does. After that the monitor goes black. I tried it on a random noname
monitor from 1992 -- after the "Stop for Maintenance" prompt goes off
screen, all the video gets very garbled very fast. Is this an adapter
problem? Since I have two monitors here that seem to support sync on
green, can I make this work?
Thanks!
Owen
--
Owen Marshall
BISI Systems Administration / Tech Support
(502)349-9444 x106
> IIRC, the Indy *only* provides sync-on-green, which is what confuses
> the Sun 13W3-HD15 adapter (it expects composite-sync).
Indy XL and Indigo XZ boards (the ones I have at least) provide
composite sync as well. I "fixed" a Sun 13W3->VGA adapter to work on
the SGI as put forth here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-mips/2003/debian-mips-200311/msg00013.html
--
Ryan Underwood, <nemesis(a)icequake.net>
>
What about putting it on Al's site ?
--
I'd be happy to mirror anything Tony or Mr Davis would like
added to the bitsavers site.
Now that the new domain is running, I was planning on adding
other sections besides the pdf's
I've just mirrored Van Snyder's 1401 site, now that it has
gone behind jpl's firewall is isn't available to the outside
world any more.
On Nov 8, 8:06, Lyle Bickley wrote:
> I own a Personal Iris, multiple Indys, multiple Indigos, multiple
Indigo2s, a
> Crimson, an Octane, an O2, and an Onyx. Only the O2 supports
standard VGA
> signals. The rest are all sync-on-green.
The Indigo, Indy, most Indigo2s, and (AFAIR) the Octane all provide
separate syncs as well as sync on green. I have a collection as well.
One of my Indys has been used with a lot of different monitors since I
bought it in 1995; it's currently using an SGI monitor which only uses
the SOG, but previously had a monitor which didn't support SOG.
Several of my friends bought reconditioned Indigos from SGI and bought
standard VGA monitors with them. I don't know if the Personal Iris or
Crimson provide separate syncs (some other 4D series do -- that's why
they have more than 3 BNCs), but the later machines do -- and the
original question was about an Indy (which does).
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
I recently bought a Fluke 9010 test pod. With it, I got a model 210-9080
8080 Processor Adaptor Module made by Wildwood of Phoenix Arizone. This is
a pod similar to the Fluke pods. It has a wide ribbon cable coming out of
it that terminates in a 40 pin DIP plug presumably to plug into a CPU
socket. On the box is a ZIP socket (for the CPU?). It also has a double row
of 40 pins that appear to be test points. On the other end of the box is a
20 pin ribbon cable with a ribbon cable socket on the end of it. Does
anyone know what this is for or anything about Wildwood?
Joe
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003, Joe wrote:
> Does anyone have any info on the Data General
model 6243 terminal? I
> found sites that talk about various programs that
emulate it but
> nothing else.
>
> Joe
Try searching for the terminal's "type" rather than
its model number. For instance, model 6242 is type
D210.
And check out vt100.net; I think I saw a couple
Dasher manuals there, though not for my D210. :-(
(If anyone out there has a D210 manual, they need
to shoot a copy over to Paul at vt100.net.)
Cheers,
Bill.
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On Nov 7, 19:09, vance(a)neurotica.com wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 owen(a)bardstown.com wrote:
>
> > I just bought a rad Indy from EBay. It seems to start up fine, as
shown
> > by the rockin' startup music! However... I can't get video... I
have a
> > 13w3 --> VGA adapter that was supposed to work with it. The light
on
> > the Indy goes green but my NEC Multisync monitor stays red. I tried
the
> > adapter on my IBM POWERstation and saw the NEC monitor turn amber.
Any
> > thoughts?
>
> Sun Adapter != IBM Adapter != SGI Adapter
>
> If you have a Sun Adapter, it will not work on your SGI, and it will
not
> work on your RS/6000.
Indeed, though it may be worth mentioning that the Indy also provides
sync-on-green, and if you have a monitor which also supports
sync-on-green, you might get it to work that way.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Nov 7, 16:42, Eric J. Korpela wrote:
>
> > Sun Adapter != IBM Adapter != SGI Adapter
>
> That's weird because my Sun adapter definitely works on my Indy.
Maybe it a
> question of what
> sync types your monitor supports.
Suns use different pins for sync than SGIs (and Suns usually use
composite sync, while SGI use separate H and V), and SGIs also use some
pins for monitor type sensing. However, quite a lot of Suns and most
SGIs also provide sync-on-green, so if the monitor supports that, and
the other signals don't cause confusion, it should work.
Contrary to popular belief, most SGIs from the Indigo onwards do not
require a SOG monitor.
Sorry, I don't know what the pinouts are for HPs or IBMs (apart from
R,G, and B). If anyone cares to tell me, I'll add the info to my crib
sheet:
13W3-SGI
================
pin A1 - Red/R-Gnd
pin A2 - Green/G-Gnd
pin A3 - Blue/B-Gnd
pin 1 - monitor type 3 (ground this on old machines, leave open on
Indy etc)
pin 2 - monitor type 0 (LSB)
pin 3 - Composite Sync
pin 4 - H Drive
pin 5 - V Drive
pin 6 - monitor type 1
pin 7 - monitor type 2 (MSB)
pin 8 - digital gnd
pin 9 - digital gnd
pin 10 - digital gnd or Sync 2
13W3-SUN
================
pin A1 - Red/R-Gnd
pin A2 - Green/G-Gnd
pin A3 - Blue/B-Gnd
pin 1 - n/c
pin 2 - n/c
pin 3 - sense 2
pin 4 - sense ret
pin 5 - Composite Sync
pin 6 - n/c
pin 7 - n/c
pin 8 - sense 1
pin 9 - sense 0
pin 10 - C-Sync ret
For Indy, Indigo2:
MonID monitor guessed
111 no monitor (defaults to lowest res, lowest refresh)
110 Single Scan 1024x768 60Hz 15"
101 Dual Scan 1280x1024 & 1024x768 60Hz 16"
100 Idem 19"
011 MultiScan 1280x1024 & 1024x768 21"
010 1280x1024, 76Hz, 16" (82 kHz line freq.)
001 DM-20 MultiScan 1280x1024 76Hz 19" or Single Scan Sony
1280x1024 72Hz
000 1280x1024 60Hz only
for older hi-End:
MonID
111 No monitor
110 Single Scan 1024x768 60Hz 15"
010 MultiScan 16"
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Nov 7, 20:47, David Holland wrote:
> And has the console device NVRAM setting set to the graphics adapter?
> (If I remember correctly, you get black screen if its set to serial
even
> w/ graphics boards in one.)
No, you still get something initially.
> You might try pulling the graphics adapters out, unplugging the
> keyboard, and hooking up a serial console.
You don't need to remove the graphics adaptor on an Indy or later
machines, and I wouldn't recommend doing so.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On Nov 7, 19:04, Lyle Bickley wrote:
> You've got to use a "sync on green" monitor with all 13W3 sgi
products.
No you don't. You can use separate sync if you connect to the right
pins. This is true for Indigo, Indy, and Indigo^2, and probably older
ones too.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
I just bought a rad Indy from EBay. It seems to start up fine, as shown by the
rockin' startup music! However... I can't get video... I have a 13w3 --> VGA
adapter that was supposed to work with it. The light on the Indy goes green but
my NEC Multisync monitor stays red. I tried the adapter on my IBM POWERstation
and saw the NEC monitor turn amber. Any thoughts?
-o
Did you ever find a converter for PFS:Winworks or maybe a copy of the
program itself?
I am needing to convert 300+ documents and trying to find a solution.
Brian Mahler
National Computer Forensics Lab
You'll have to look at your monitor's documentation. Most high-end monitors
are capable of sync-on-green - most inexpensive monitors do not support it.
There are adapters that "attempt" to create standard sync signals from the
sync-on-green, but I've had mixed results (at best) with them.
Your best bet is to pick up a nice sgi monitor (20"). Depending on where you
live, you'll find them modest in price and if they are working properly, they
have outstanding color, etc.
Lyle
On Friday 07 November 2003 19:06, you wrote:
> Ohboy. How can I tell if my monitor is sync on green? Documentation? Is
> there an adapter to change this?
>
> -o
>
> > You've got to use a "sync on green" monitor with all 13W3 sgi products.
> > Secondly, make sure that the 13W3 adapter is for sgi and not sun
> > (different pinouts for monitor "mode" settings).
> >
> > Lyle
> >
> > On Friday 07 November 2003 14:45, owen(a)bardstown.com wrote:
> > > I just bought a rad Indy from EBay. It seems to start up fine, as shown
> > > by the rockin' startup music! However... I can't get video... I have a
> > > 13w3 --> VGA adapter that was supposed to work with it. The light on
> > > the Indy goes green but my NEC Multisync monitor stays red. I tried the
> > > adapter on my IBM POWERstation and saw the NEC monitor turn amber. Any
> > > thoughts?
> > >
> > > -o
> >
> > --
> > Lyle Bickley
> > Bickley Consulting West Inc.
> > Mountain View, CA 94040
> > "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
--
Lyle Bickley
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
Mountain View, CA 94040
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
I was contacted by someone interested in selling an IMSAI 8080 and
related parts. The following are the items available and the prices
they are hoping for:
IMSAI 8080 Microcomputer $2200
Includes 8080 CPU and Tarbell I/O cards
4K memory cards (16 of them) $ 250 each
64K memory card (1 of them) $ 500
Cromemco Dazzler Graphics cards $ 800
Dual 5 ? inch floppy drive (1) $ 350
8080 micro monitor chip set $ 150
Heath keyboard/monitor (serial) $ 350
I am passing this along in case someone is interested. Please contact
Sarah at parkrangersara(a)hotmail.com if you are. Rumor has it that she's
already been offered $2,000 for the machine. . .
The usual disclaimers apply. I have nothing to do with Sarah, the
machine, etc. and I am just passing this along for your information or,
at worst, your amusement.
Best regards,
Erik Klein
www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum
The Vintage Computer Forum
I have a copy of the original Scelbi 8008 book, which has some short code
samples, w/ octal equivalents. I might be able to locate the original
8008 manuals, if you're interested.
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Frank,
Do you still have any TIL308 BCD Display Driver LED? If you do I would be
interested to buy them.
Thank you,
Dee Rose
Orbit Sytsems
949-852-9999 ext 224
949-261-9999 fax
Frank,
Do you still have any TIL308, BCD Display Driver LED. If you have any to sell, I would be interested to buy.
Thank you,
Dee Rose
949-852-9999 ext 224
A friend of mine has a pile (55) 8" floppies which were created
on a Motorola EXORciser MDOS system. Does anyone know if the data
on these disks can be recovered on a CPM system or similar, or will
he need to find an EXORciser?
--tnx
--tom
John
On Tue Oct 8 20:11:58 2002, you posted about your 11/44.
I was searching for help with the H7140 power supply when
I came across your post. I recently tried to power up
a system I got a couple years ago, and have a flashing 'DC On'
indicator. I don't know how serious this is, or if I might
be able to repair/adjust it with some guidance. Suggestions?
I have no documentation on the power supply.
Thanks.
I'm making a Friden Flexowriter simulator to bring up my LGP-21
(solid-state follow-on to the LGP-30). I do not have access to the
LGP-21 Flexowriter, which is modified from a "standard" (sic) flexo in a
number of ways (peculiar code set, special fromt-panel switches).
I have hardware documentation for the LGP, which includes a fair chunk
of Flexo data (schematic, etc) but it's not much help with the interface
timing. I think it's likely the signal names are standard (sic) Friden,
but I don't know.
(The simulator will be PIC-based, and will diddle the interface signals
under control of host-resident software, to which it'll talk to via
serial port.)
I'm assuming it's a "busy/done" system, eg. to print, the computer sets
up print data (before point a, below) then asserts the strobe or gate on
(at a). (call it Print Start, or interface "busy"). When the Flexo has
assimilated the data, it asserts Print End, or "done", at b, which
clears Print Start; when Print End deasserts, at c, the interface is
ready to begin the next cycle:
a b c
+---------+
| |
to flexo START -----------+ +---------------
+----------+
| |
>from flexo END ---------------------+ +----
I believe receive is similar, with the directions reverse of course.
Specifically, I can't determine the timing relationships of signals:
(print)
Tx print start?
JL29 print end?
(receive)
Xs receive start?
Sr receive end?
JL12 "start input cycle"
JL11 "end of flex input cycle"
Receive especially bugs me, since it appears to be two sets of handshake
that do the same thing. The descriptions in "quotes" are from the LGP-21
algebraic descriptions of the Flex interface.
(There are also signals JL32, JL33, JL28-20, and LGP-specific Friden
switches "START COMPUTE", and maybe "MANUAL INPUT", which the LGP sees
in some manner.)
Here's the Flexowriter cable end pinouts, if it's any help.
Flexowriter connector (JL) P38, end of cable to J19.
to/from
flexo
01 TP5 to Print data
02 TP4 to Print data
03 TP3 to Print data
04 TP2 to Print data
05 TP1 to Print data
06 TP6 to Print data
07 Tx to Print start ("busy")
08 -60V from
09 Sr to Receive end ("done")
10 /BQ from Manual input
11 JL11 from "End of flex input cycle"?
12 JL12 from "Start input cycle"
13 P5* from Receive data
14 /P5* from Receive data
15 P4* from Receive data
16 /P4* from Receive data
17 P3* from Receive data
18 /P3* from Receive data
19 P2* from Receive data
20 /P2* from Receive data
21 P1* from Receive data
22 /P1* from Receive data
23 P6* from Receive data
24 /P6* from Receive data
25 SIGNAL GROUND
26
27 Xs from Receive start ("busy")
28 JL28-20 to
29 JL29 from Print end ("done")
30
31 SIGNAL GROUND
32 JL32 to
33 JL33 from "translator cam"?
34 SIGNAL GROUND
35 117AC to
36 117AC to
37 CHASSIS GROUND
I have a laptop SLT 286.
On start error massage appears:
1970 Disk 0 error
162 setup not installed (run setup)
Insert diagnostik diskette in the drive A
(resume = "F1" key)
Afterwards I can not access hard disk.
Please can you send me the diagnostik diskette
Prim.Dr.Stjepan Varosanec
Hi, not that I want to go hunting on your turf :-) but I need to
buy a lot of older untested RZ28 and RZ29 disks (hundreds) for
cheap. So I have contacted the places I know of and may get
perhaps half of what I need from one. So I need more addresses
where I can ask. The focus is on computer-junkyard and not
so much reseller becasue I want to buy untested possibly failed
equipment.
thanks four your hints,
-Gunther
Well, I'm finally getting around to building up my Digital Alpha
PC64/275MHz box. Only problem is I have no L2 cache SIMMs, so it won't
boot up at the moment. Plus, I still have to rewire my ATX power supply
for it. Got the mother board connectors from a dead donor Aspen Alpine
box :) Tried a regular AT power supply on the PC64, but since there is
no cache, no go...
Anybody know where I can get some cache for cheap/trade?
--
--- Dave Woyciesjes
--- ICQ# 905818
Hi folks,
I'm in the process of restoring my 8/I, have run into a little problem with
the core memory, and am out of ideas on what to do next.
The symptom is that I can deposit into the core memory now (after replacing
a few cards and a core plane), but I can only deposit 11 bits; the 12th
bit remains 0.
If I deposit 7777, I can examine and get 3777. This machine has 8k of
core, and the problem is the same in both 4k banks.
Here's what I've done so far to try and eliminate / narrow down the
problem -- any further suggestions are most welcome!
Swapped G228 A36/B36
Swapped G228 B36/B37
Swapped G021 A31/A32
Swapped G221 C37/C38
Swapped G221 D37/D38
Swapped two edge M220's
Swapped G624 A38/B38
(The G221 swaps may have been related to an earlier problem, which
I've since fixed)
None of these swaps yielded any change in the problem... Since it
affects both banks, I'm assuming it must be a problem in some common
circuitry.
Just so as I'm not totally embarrasing myself, the 4000 bit (the LEFT-most
bit) is MB00, right, and not MB11? :-) This whole MSB = 0 and LSB = 11
is very confusing :-)
Thanks!
Cheers,
-RK
--
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Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting and Training at www.parse.com
Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers!
Here is a note from the Mentor Graphics SupportNet site. (I work for
Mentor.)
Michael Holley
www.swtpc.com/mholley
Adobe Acrobat Reader 6.0 Issue
There is a bug within Acrobat 6 which causes SupportNet incompatibility.
This issue was identified by Adobe as a known issue with the Acrobat Reader
6.0. This version of the reader is not capable of handling the HTTP headers
generated by the SupportNet security system.
Solution 1: Save the PDF file to your hard drive, and open it in Adobe
Acrobat or Adobe Reader.
1. Right-click the link to the PDF file on the Web site, and then choose
Save Target As (Internet Explorer) or Save Link As (Netscape Navigator) from
the pop-up menu.
2. In the Save As dialog box, select a location on the hard disk, and
then click Save.
3. Double-click the PDF file to open it in Adobe Acrobat or Adobe Reader.
Solution 2: Disable Web Browser Integration.
1. In Acrobat or Adobe Reader, choose Edit > Preferences > Internet.
2. Deselect Display PDF in Browser, and then click OK.
Solution 3: Use Acrobat 5.x.
Remove Acrobat 6.0 or Adobe Reader 6.0, and then install Acrobat 5.x. You
can download the free Acrobat Reader 5.1 from the Adobe Web site at
www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/alternate.html
Last week I was having a LOT of trouble downloading PDF files from Al's
website. Adobe Acrobat was taking about ten minutes just to open the first
page and I couldn't get any pages beyond the first one. Erik suggested that
I right click on the file and save it without opening Adobe Acrobat. I
tried that and it worked MUCH better. However Al said that I should be able
to open the PDF file with Acrobat and read it and then save it without any
problems. That agrees with what I knew about PDFs. Anyway I've been
wondering what was going on so today I typed "Why is Adobe Acrobat slow"
into Google and I got some interesting results. I found LOTs of reviews of
Acrobat version 6 that also complained about it being SO SLOW. Some of the
reviewers suggesting sticking with Version 4. Following their advice I
uninstalled my current version of Acrobat (ver 5.something) and then went
to oldversions.com and downloaded version 4 and installed it. It works MUCH
MUCH better!
If you're having problems with Acrobat being slow. Try removing it and
then installing version 4 and see if that helps. It works for me!
Joe
At 02:11 PM 11/4/03 -0800, you wrote:
>
>> You're not supposed to view them in your web browser.
>
>It should work fine that way, assuming the pdf plugin is sending the
>right html commands to the web server.
That's what I thought! But I tried saving the files directly and it
worked MUCH better. I could save an 18 Mb file in a couple of minutes that
way. Using Acrobat I couldn't even get one page in the same time. I tried
to open and save a 9Mb file last week and it ran for over 2 1/2 hours and
only got about 1/4 of the file before a power glitch crashed the computer.
No idea why Acrobat slows things down so much. It doesn't seem to be a
problem on small files but the time seems to go up exponentally with file
size.
I see people reading docs this
>way all the time.
>
>To answer the original question, the WCS card is documented in the
>1000 M/E/F Engineering Reference
>http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/hp/1000/1000_MEF_EngrRef/
I couldn't find a specific docs for it but I thought it might be in the
Engineering Reference. I downloaded it this afternoon but haven't had a
chance to look through it yet.
Thanks,
Joe
>
>92851-90001_Mar81_6.pdf section B
>
>
>From: steve <gkicomputers(a)yahoo.com>
>
>--- Fred Cisin <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> wrote:
>>> Something else to consider: If you donate something
>> to a valid non-profit
>> (501C3?), then the amount that you can deduct is
>> what you paid for it;
>> EXCEPT,... if you had had it for over a year before
>> making the donation,
>> then you can deduct the "fair market value". I paid
>> the usual $10 for a
>> Centronics 101 printer. A few years later, I
>> donated it to City College
>> of San Francisco. (They NEEDED a printer for their
>> TRS-80s that could
>> withstand heavy use and abuse) The IRS was
>> perfectly content with my
>> taking a $1000 tax deduction, although, if I were to
>> have made the
>> donation within the first year after I bought it,
>> they would only have
>> permitted the $10.
>>
>How did you figure $1000 as the "fair market value"
>for a Centronics 101?
Hi
It surely has more than $10 value as aluminum scrap.
Dwight
Anybody looking for these? I was at Computer Recycling & Refining in
North Branford, CT today. Not a bad place. About 2000 square feet. And a
bunch of stuff. Two interesting things I saw were a "Woz" signed IIgs
(?) and a Dynabyte computer. According to the guy there, it was the
first portable? Considering it's about the size of a couple mid-tower
PCs, it's not really that portable... Either way, both are for sale.
Give them a call, 203-488-0535.
If you looking for some other PC or Mac computers or parts (pallets),
maybe some HP switched hubs (at least 1 pallet), or even a couple large
Cisco Catalyst 5500 units; they may be able to help you out. They
welcome visitors, just call in advance...
--
---Dave Woyciesjes
---ICQ# 905818
I am looking to buy a HX-20. Yes we still use it! Do you have any ideas
about where I can find one.
Thanks, Pat
PAT LOBBES
SOURCE, INC
972-371-2626
972-371-2597 FAX
plobbes(a)source.com
I was searching too and found nothing. I did it myself.
CHS 992/11/63 about 320-350 MB. The master/slave jumper is 1-2 of CN3 On is
Master off Off is Slave.
The ug numbers are military numbers.
fair radio in lima ohio used to sell this "type" (pun)
of surplus gear.
they were used for landline and radio teletype (rtty).
nadcom (or is it nadcomm?) (i cannot remember thier
web addy) may have more info - they are a teletype
museum and do have some mil stuff in thier collection.
Bill
Message: 26
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:11:34 -0500
From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
Subject: OT: Id this Teletype machine
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
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Last week I drug home a Teletype machine just
seconds before it was
going to be tossed in a dumpster but I can't identify
it. It LOOKS like
a
model 28 KSR Compact as seen at
<http://www.vauxelectronics.com/gil/tty/teletype_corp.htm>
but the only
id
tag that I can find on it says TT-187A/UG. Inside is
another tag that
says
MX-1114A/UG Keyboard. Can anyone id it from those
numbers? Also found
a
second piece that looks the M28
Transmitter-Distributer shownon the
same
page. The label in it says CY-871/UG TT-69A/UG. I need
help id'ing this
one
too. The property on it says that it came from
McDonald Douglas and
that
it's a "reader, tape".
Joe
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Heisenberg says we can't know the speed of <thing> and it's location at
the same time.
What if I concentrate on location while timing <thing>
ie <thing> is at "5" and 1 second later it's at "35" is it not going
"30" per second?
and while it was going 30 per second didn't I see it at 5 and 35?
(note to a real physicist this question is probably meaningless...)
On Oct 31, 14:23, Patrick Finnegan wrote:
> > Looks like it. If you've tried two terminators and two
controllers,
> > all that's left is the cable or the drive. I assume you've got the
> > ribbon cable from the controller to the bulkhead connector round
the
> > right way.
>
> Hmm, right that's one thing I'm not too sure about... the cable is
just
> straight-thru, right? I'm using a makeshift cable (one of a couple
that I've
> tried), and it's straight-thru, because I was assuming the 'real'
cable is as
> well. Sometime today I'll try to look to see if there's anything too
obvious
> that's wrong (eg missing 4MHz clock signal).
Yes, it is straight-through. One of mine has 8" of old 40-pin ribbon
cable from an Acorn 2nd Processor, vintage 1985 or so, and it works
fine. The back of the bulkhead connector is just a dual row of pins on
0.1" centres, and an ordinary female header fits perfectly. Of course,
depending on which way up you have the bulkhead connector, you might
need a half-twist in the ribbon cable.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
On 11/3/2003 07:14 PM -0600, cctech-request(a)classiccmp.org wrote:
>chris wrote:
> > ...
> > Can anyone recommend a glue for plastic that doesn't suck. Testor's no
> > longer makes usable plastic model glue. The tube is labeled as "for
> > polystyrene or ABS plastic", but I think scotch tape would hold better
> > than this crap will.
"Glue" is very plastic dependent. Different solvents or adhesives for
different plastics.
Most plastic models are styrene, and the solvent in your typical model
"cement" is MEK (Methyl Ethyl Ketone) which can be bought by the pint in
the paint/solvent section of good hardware stores.
Many model builders use liquid cement, which avoids many of the fillers and
other stuff in the viscous tube cements. They and other smelly compounds
are in there to discourge sniffers, not eye lid accidents.
> >
> > SuperGlue (Krazy Glue, whatever the brand on that tube says) doesn't do
> > any better.
> >
> > I've got a plastic push gear I'm trying to glue back together, and so far
> > three different glues haven't done squat! The last one I tried was some
> > brand of a super glue designed to fill gaps and bond most anything to
> > anything... yeah right! As soon as the gear was pushed, it snapped at the
> > glue line again (after letting it dry all weekend).
> >
> > So what's a good plastic glue that I can buy, and where can I get it?!?
> > Damn parental groups worrying about kids glueing their eye lids shut have
> > ruined it for us all!
There is nothing good for everything, and I don't thing anything will be
able to stand up to the shear force on your gear teeth. Sorry.
Dave.
Last week I drug home a Teletype machine just seconds before it was
going to be tossed in a dumpster but I can't identify it. It LOOKS like a
model 28 KSR Compact as seen at
<http://www.vauxelectronics.com/gil/tty/teletype_corp.htm> but the only id
tag that I can find on it says TT-187A/UG. Inside is another tag that says
MX-1114A/UG Keyboard. Can anyone id it from those numbers? Also found a
second piece that looks the M28 Transmitter-Distributer shownon the same
page. The label in it says CY-871/UG TT-69A/UG. I need help id'ing this one
too. The property on it says that it came from McDonald Douglas and that
it's a "reader, tape".
Joe
How do I break into a NEXT machine where I know no passwords, root or
otherwise? Is it possible to make this machine usable or am I going to
have to wipe the drives and start over again? Any help is appreciated.
--
Wayne Talbot <awt(a)io.com>
I've decided that I don't really like old PC's(altho I'll still keep
my 5150), so I am getting rid of my Compaq Portable. It worked last I
plugged it in about a year ago, I haven't tried it since - so no
guarantee that it still works(but it should). It's been sitting in
the basement and never gets used and I have too much stuff so it has
to go. It has a half-height hard drive - something like 20 or 40MB,
and a full-height 5.25" floppy drive. It's available free to the
first person who can pick it up in Portland, Oregon. This is a
pick-up only, I'm not going to ship something this big. Any takers?
-JR KD7BCY
> I still prefer to use a sink full of hot soapy water, and a medium stiff
> paint brush, and lots of elbow grease. The brush gets down into the cracks
> and crevasses, and any texturing on the case. I also prefer this method
> because I enjoy the act of scrubbing everything up. I like to see the
> cleaned piece emerge from years grime and dirt, and the work gives me time
> to think. A toothbrush and a facial buff pad are also useful.
Lestoil liquid cleaner diluted with a little hot water will remove the most
astonishing amount of sheer crud of anything I've ever tried that's not
either an abrasive or a solvent. Use it with a brush; let it sit awhile.
..Seth Lewin
If there is any one local to Houston TX that is interested in a set of
RSX11M+ Version 2.1 ( and a few 11M 4.1) manuals please let me know OFF list.
A good customer of mine is about to throw them out.
Sorry it will need to be a local pickup.
Yes I am still subscribed but have not been able to keep up with all the
traffic.:(
Thanks
Dan
and didn't the thing have to have a load to test it ?
-pete
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Duell [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:06 PM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: PDP-11/44 want list
>
> John
> On Tue Oct 8 20:11:58 2002, you posted about your 11/44.
> I was searching for help with the H7140 power supply when
> I came across your post. I recently tried to power up
> a system I got a couple years ago, and have a flashing 'DC On'
This generally means one or more of the power rails is out-of-spec...
> indicator. I don't know how serious this is, or if I might be able to
> repair/adjust it with some guidance. Suggestions? I have no
> documentation on the power supply.
You _need_ the schematic. The H7140 is one of the most complicated PSUs
you'll ever come across, and it's also dangerous inside. There's
rectified mains (400V DC at essentially unlimited current -- the
smoothing caps are the size of coke cans!) on screw terminals on the top
of
some of the PCBs. This _will_ kill you, if you touch it. Not 'might',
will.
Basiclaly, there are 3 switch-mode PSUs in that box. The first is a
small
one, used to power the PSU control circuitry. The second provides the
+5V
and +/-15V logic supply rails. The last provides a +36V rail that can be
battery-backed. That one is then regulated down to +/-12V and +/-5V for
the memory boards. It also supplies the H-bridge driver that provides
the
35V 70Hz supply for the fans.
The schematic for this supply is a dozen or so pages. I wouldn't want to
work on one without it in front of me, even though I've repaired them
before...
-tony
For all you PS/2 fans out there, I've got the following MCA ethernet
cards available.
3Com Etherlink/MC (AUI, BNC)
3Com Etherlink III MCA (AUI, BNC; 2 of these cards available)
Artisoft 10569 (BNC, RJ-45; "Alice" chipset)
Anyone want them? Price is postage plus $1.00
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
I unsubscribed from this list because of the volume,
but I still read the monthly archives. I noticed than
some people were wondering about the HP CRT mold
problem. I really did solve it, by building a wooden
box (to contain the IMPLODING crt), and mounting the
CRT in it. Then, I went to the hobby store and got
some nichrome wire used in cutting foam for model
airplanes. I used an old AT power supply at 12 volts
to power the wire, to just below red hot (I determined
the length of nichrome wire to do this with
expermentally, it was about 3.5 feet). I made wooden
handles with screws to hold the wire as I sliced
through (very slowly!!!) the old RTV, keeping the
nichrome wire towards the front glass and not touching
the CRT. after the front glass came off, acetone was
used to remove the remaining old RTV, and all glass
surface were cleaned spotless before reassembly with
aquarium RTV around the edges. Of course, this was all
VERY VERY hazardous and no SANE person should EVER
even CONSIDER doing this (liability issues...).
I completely restored my 2644A including getting both
tape drives working, good matching paint, and I even
buffed the yellowing keys back to original condition
(very tedious work). But it is an amazing, cost is not
object machine. The switching power supply is crystal
controlled!!!
My tube didn't have very serious phosphor burns so I
felt that it was worth this effort.
If anyone wants the CRT box they can have it for the
cost of shipping. Hope I won't have to use it again!
You actually can buy NEW crt's like this one - for
$250!!! I also put new CRT's in my ADM-3a's (much
cheaper, around $45 shipped, as I recall).
Some details on the HP and ADM-3a CRT replacements are
at:
http://juliepalooza.8m.com/sl
I've been working on 6120's, tiny paper tape readers
powered by laptop power supplies, and a Scelbi clone
capable of running SCELBAL (which I have resurrected).
=====
-Steve Loboyko
Incredible wisdom actually found in a commerical fortune cookie:
"When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day."
Website: http://juliepalooza.8m.com/sl
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