- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by vguyot＠ubu.enst.fr

hello, I read on http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2002-September/002205.html you searched a copy of the terminal emulator. I just get a 4952A unit, with a POD cable (AUI male - AUI female I guess) and this disc containing the terminal emulator. But I don't have any manual. Have you finally found the disk? If not, I could try to send you a copy of mine. Do you have a manual, explaining how to use this terminal emulator? I can't figure how to get it working.. regards, vg

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I saw Sellam on TechTV

by tradde＠excite.com

Very interesting segment on old storage media. I remember punch cards, paper tape, huge fixed head hard drives, etc. The article he wrote is also very interesting too. I loved the patch panel for the IBM machine. Have not seen one of those in a long long time. I did take a class in high school that taught us how to program a tabulating machine. Way to go Sellam. Tim Radde _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

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9 track tape source

by bo_dance＠yahoo.com

Hi I just bought a new nine track tape from Wiltec.com. Thats http://www.wiltec.com. Good Luck ===== #------------------------------------------------------- # Thomas Bodine, http://www.tommythegeek.com # Computer support for small business # Skipper S/V Frimi WWP 19 #1029 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com

22 years, 5 months

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Looking for: DEC DEChub90 gear

by waltje＠pdp11.nl

Hi All, To complete one of the parts of the VAXlab network, I need to get the following DEChub90-based stuff: - two (2) DEChub90 backplanes - three (3) DECrepeater 90T modules - one (1) DECbridge module for management I have the other modules, including some fun ones (LATprint, Packet Probe, bridge, router, term server). Extra DECserver 90 term servers are always welcome. Lemme know (off-list) if you have something you'd be willing to part with for a fair price! Cheers, Fred -- Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist Visit the VAXlab Project at http://VAXlab.pdp11.nl/ Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/ Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Mountain View, CA, USA

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Apple Lisa Schematics or Parts Wtd

by dave＠coldfusion.fsnet.co.uk

Hi Folks! Anybody got a set of schematics for an Apple Lisa IO board? Must be the eariler 2/5 version (Part No. 620-0117) Had a look on the net but can only find diagrams for the later 2/10 board. Failing that, anybody in the UK with a spare IO board for a Lisa 2/5 ? Cheers, Dave .

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Attn: Curt in particular - Atari Video Machine power brick

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Hi folks, Had an email from a lucky sod who's got his paws on a C240 Atari Video Machine but the power brick is bust/broken/knackered/fubar/nixed. Anyone have one of these things or access to the schematics? He thinks it's a 16V input but isn't entirely sure so he won't touch it until he knows more.... All the links on atarimuseum.com are b0rked..... TIA! -- Adrian/Witchy Owner & Webmaster, Binary Dinosaurs www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - possibly the UK's biggest online computer museum www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(

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[OT] Dodgy electrolytic in 3COM hub

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Hi folks, This is totally nowhere near the 10 year rule since the chips have datecodes of 9951 on 'em, but the theory of failure is the same. It's a 16 port 10/100 hub and it whistles like a bastard when its powered up. On dismantling I find that one of the electrolytic caps on the power regulator side of things is looking (to me) unwell in that it has a brown stain on the top over one of the joins: http://www.wowrarelook.co.uk/cap.jpg I gather replacement is necessary since it's obviously on its way out? Cheers all, -- Adrian/Witchy Owner & Webmaster, Binary Dinosaurs www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - possibly the UK's biggest online computer museum www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o(

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Sellam on Tech Tv/data records

by n8uhn＠yahoo.com

Good bit on early storage devices, Sellam. before the beginning of the story a host showed a mag that had a evatone like record with programs on it. how did one use the record? my guess is that you had to copy the record to cassette tape then load that into the comp. Bill __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com

22 years, 5 months

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FS: SparcServer 1000 & SparcStorage Array]

by bdwheele＠indiana.edu

I've got the R/C Truck bug again and I need to thin out my collection a bit for some cash. [for anyone who cares, I'm looking at a Team Associated RC10 GT http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCLU0&P=0] Here's the system I'm selling: 2x 60MHz SuperSPARC Modules (501-2519) 256M RAM (8x 32M) CDROM & DAT 1G Drive in SparcServer 18x 1G Drives in Storage Array Disk Array Host Adaptor (501-2553) Network Peripherals FDDI Card Terms: I WILL NOT SHIP THIS HEAVY MONSTER! I'm in Bloomington, IN. I'm asking $200 or best reasonable offer by Fri, Mar 19. I've also got a SGI 4D/35 with several drives which would make a good parts machine, an old 320H IBM RS/6000 machine, and an Amiga video toaster 2000 card if anyone is interested. Brian

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Oops

by acme＠gbronline.com

Sorry, that was meant to be private. Glen 0/0

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Setting a DECserver free

by lists＠microvax.org

Hey Guys I've got a few DEChub90s - sweet things they are too. However, I don't wnt the bulk of them at the moment until we move to the New House. I'd like to run one of the modules - a DECserver90TL, not that it matters really which module it is - standalone. There's the largeish 16x3 rectangular backplane connector, and a smaller DIN-ish port. Where does the PSU connect on models that were born to be standalone? TIA alex/melt

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I saw Sellam on TechTV

by Innfogra＠aol.com

What program? Please! and times if possible..... Thanks, Paxton Astoria, OR

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SCSI question, sorta OT

by ghldbrd＠ccp.com

Now that drives are getting cheaper, sorta --- Can I use an Ultra 160 hard drive with my AHA-2940UW with other single ended drives attached to the 68 pin buss? Gary Hildebrand St. Joseph, MO

22 years, 5 months

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Fw: Re:Strange Computer (take 2)

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

> No, not at all. I don't see any "obstacles", only whining and > inconsequential blathering. > > Look bud... This thread has gone on long enough, it's not really appropriate for the list. Please take it to private email if you deem the "tit for tat" worthy of the bandwidth. It's not worthy of mine. Jay

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Strange Computer (take 2)

by lyosnorezel＠yahoo.com

No, not at all. I don't see any "obstacles", only whining and inconsequential blathering. Look bud... YOU try living with these assholes and see how long you last. >From the moment you started participating in this group you've bandied about ridiculous theories about electricity and your questions have generally been answerable with just the minimum of Googling (and before you protest you CAN get to Google from AOL, I've done it). Don't give me that raft of shit... I did google first and found next to nothing. And what I did find was usually a bunch of giberish that, if I knew german, I would be able to understand. BTW, google's "translate this page" option wasn't there. When you try to get help for your problems, you seem to go out of your way to make it difficult. The problem doesn't seem to be AOL or your parents or Windows or whatever. It's you. Do some basic research and install some decent tools (of which there are many free ones available). Hide them from your parents if need be. Me dad is smarter then he appears... he knows enough to check certain unalterable system logs, that record all system activity. So installing programs is out of the question. Downloading is allowed as long as I don't exceed 1GB of file space they've "alloted" me. If you insist your parents are in the way then get a job and move out or order your own phone line. I've been looking for a job for 4 fucking months. But because of certain facts that goal seems unachieveable. A.)I was never allowed to get me temps (it was an 18th b-day present to meself) so I can't drive (yet), B.)the damn economy has hit the area where I live extremely hard (Ohio if your wondering), most of the companies around here haven't finish firing people yet, while the rest of you are on the upwards climb... we haven't quite hit the bottom. Care to trade lives? Lyos Gemini Norezel Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam

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More interesting reading on the Apollo 11 LM

by vcf＠siconic.com

http://www.unt.edu/UNT/departments/CC/Benchmarks/benchmarks_html/sepoct95/l… -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 5 months

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Magazines available (SF Bay Area)

by classiccmp＠vintage-computer.com

Hello All, I've got a large pile of magazines that I'm getting rid of. If you're interested in any of these they are yours for the asking (or for shipping/packing if you aren't local.) If I can't find any takers by Wednesday 3/22 then it's off to the recycler. What I've got is: PC Magazine: Jan 1985 through Dec. 19, 1995 (11 years), with only 2 missing in 1992. PC World: 1985 through Dec., 1994 (10 years), with some missing issues in 1987 and 1988. Personal Computing: April 1985 through August 1990, and May 1993 through April 2000. There may be a few more or a few less. This was a quick-scan inventory. Please let me know if you'd like any of them. Erik Klein www.vintage-computer.com <http://www.vintage-computer.com/> www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum The Vintage Computer Forum

22 years, 5 months

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Wrong formula? Re: [OT] Dodgy electrolytic in 3COM hub

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Faulty Capacitors information link I found http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/WEBONLY/resource/feb03/ncap.html Thanks Mike

22 years, 5 months

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Setup disk for HP Vectra ES?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I pickup two HP Vectra ES/12 computers last week with the HP 82321 BASIC Language Processor cards in them. But they've been sitting long enough that the CMOS batteries have died and now they don't recognize the hard drives. Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the CMOS setup program? The Vectra ES computers aren't even listed on HP's (or I should say Compaq's!) website any more and I've searched the net and can't find it there either. I think the BIOS was written by Phoenix and I thought I'd try their setup program but I can't even find an old version that on the net. Phoenix's site now only talks about AWARD BIOS since they bought them out. Joe

22 years, 5 months

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free TLZ09-AA, RZ25, MMJ cables

by runtime＠wzrd.com

but...it doesn't work. bare drive. yours for the postage (it doesn't weigh much). Also, RZ25 -- free (don't know whether it works or not). Also, lots of MMJ cables (some DEC, some I made). Most are 10 or 12 feet; some are even longer. you can contact me via email, having made the obvious replacement: runtime(at)wzrd.com Don Mitchell Runtime Services

22 years, 5 months

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looking for 2100S microcode programming snippet

by aek＠spies.com

> Anyone have this info? -- Frank was scanning the handbook.

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Searching for IBM System/7 items

by henk.stegeman＠shell.com

> Hi, > > Anyone on this list who can help me with any IBM System/7 items ? > (Hardware, software, manuals etc). > > The IBM system/7 was a real-time plant automation computer in the early > seventies. I am currently restoring an old S/7 to working condition but > I am still missing allot of software and doc of this system to complete > this product with success. > > Regards > > > Henk Stegeman > IBM S/7 restorer.

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Watch the Screen Savers on TechTV tonight

by vcf＠siconic.com

Be sure to catch me on The Screen Savers on TechTV tonight. Check your local listings for air times. http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/shownotes/story/0,24330,3633122,00.html -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 5 months

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2 Mac SE models available

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

Macintosh SE 4meg with dual floppies. Booted up fine off an external drive. No video problems. Fan is noisy but works. Case needs cleaning. Macintosh SE FDHD 4/40. Boots system 6.08. Case is yellowed, but not excessive. Works fine and no video problems. Hows about $7 each plus whatever it costs to ship from zip 27703.

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VCF East 2.0 is ON!

by vcf＠siconic.com

Ok, finally got confirmation so I can make this preliminary announcement. VCF East 2.0 will be held either June 25-26 or July 16-17 at Sun Microsystems's Burlington, Massachusetts, campus. Note: these dates are FRIDAY and SATURDAY. A break from the traditional VCF weekend but one that was necessitated by matters outside my control. At any rate, you take a day off work and have all day Sunday to relax. I'll hopefully have confirmed dates by the end of the week. In the meantime, you can at least REGISTER AS AN EXHIBITOR: http://www.vintage.org/2004/east/exhibit.php (note: rules not yet updated) ...or perhaps you'd like to REGISTER AS A VENDOR: http://www.vintage.org/2004/east/vendor.php The event is being completely sponsored by Sun and will feature several talks from Sun employees on various aspects of Sun's history. This event is likely to be BIG. Possibly rivalling the main VCF in Sillycon Valley. Sorry for the long delay but this is really a go now! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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VCF East 2.0 is ON!

by mross666＠hotmail.com

>Ok, finally got confirmation so I can make this preliminary announcement. > >VCF East 2.0 will be held either June 25-26 or July 16-17 at Sun >Microsystems's Burlington, Massachusetts, campus. Note: these dates are >FRIDAY and SATURDAY. A break from the traditional VCF weekend but one >that was necessitated by matters outside my control. At any rate, you >take a day off work and have all day Sunday to relax. Excellent! Shame it isn't nearer NY, but still... >The event is being completely sponsored by Sun and will feature several >talks from Sun employees on various aspects of Sun's history. This event >is likely to be BIG. Possibly rivalling the main VCF in Sillycon Valley. Reinforce the floors, Sellam - the Corestore is coming! :-) Mike http://www.corestore.org _________________________________________________________________ Find things fast with the new MSN Toolbar – includes FREE pop-up blocking! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/

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[Fwd: More interesting reading on the Apollo 11 LM] (fwd)

by tomj＠wps.com

re: choice of languages: since they were hand machine coding, the choice of high-level language was immaterial, and was a meta-language only since no compiler was used. Probably the authors were fluent MAC programmers. Maybe they had MAC OS/360 emulators/interpreters. In hindsight some things appear odd (read-only core must be physically assembled with 1's and 0's!, instead of disabling/modifying drive currents) but embedded control -- with human beings at .25M miles! -- never mind the mass-media effect of failure -- was utterly without precedent. Hell embedded digital control was novel. So -- Extreme conservatism of an kind UNKNOWABLE to COMMERCIAL programmers was always foremost is space applications. http://www.unt.edu/UNT/departments/CC/Benchmarks/benchmarks_html/sepoct95/l…

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Wrong formula? Re: [OT] Dodgy electrolytic in 3COM hub

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 07:07 AM 3/16/04 -0800, Gene wrote: >> I've got a Gigabyte motherboard from the same period with the issue ... >> three caps on the board are bulging or split on top. I bought three of >> the same model boards at the same time and only one of them have had >> that happen. >> >The cap failure is due to a formulation error. The formua was stolen >from a competeing cap mfr, and they got it just a little bit wrong. There >was a big write up about this when it was first discovered. I haven't heard about that. Do you have a link to the write up? I did hear about a lot of faulty caps due to a supplier that sold bad batch of electrolyte to a lot of the cap manufacturers. What formula do you need for caps? AFIK it's just a matter of buying them for the applicable voltage. Yes there are formulas for capacitanace to achive the necesssary filtering but the wrong results there won't cause them to burst. Joe

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Attn: Curt in particular - Atari Video Machine power brick

by KVanMersbergen＠RandMcNally.com

Adrian- Try this one: http://www.atarimuseum.com/videogames/dedicated/videomusic/videomusic.html -Ken V. -----Original Message----- From: Witchy [mailto:witchy@binarydinosaurs.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 8:37 AM To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: Attn: Curt in particular - Atari Video Machine power brick > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org > [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Curt Vendel > Sent: 16 March 2004 14:21 > To: General(a)neptune.easily.co.uk; > Discussion@neptune.easily.co.uk:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Attn: Curt in particular - Atari Video Machine > power brick > > Hi Adrian, > > Here is a direct link the Video Music Section of the Atari Museum: > > http://www.atarimuseum.com/videogames/dedicated/videomusic/vid > eomusic.html > > You'll find instructions and at the bottom of the page Side A > & B for the schematics for the Video Music. Hi Curt, That's the page I was talking about - all the links including the pictures are dead.... Cheers -- Adrian/Witchy Owner & Webmaster, Binary Dinosaurs www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - possibly the UK's biggest online computer museum www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - ex-monthly gothic shenanigans :o( *************************************************************** This E-mail is confidential. It should not be read, copied, disclosed or used by any person other than the intended recipient. Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying by whatever medium is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the E-mail from your system. ***************************************************************

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72VDC power?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I picked up a couple of rack mount computers last week. Most of them were made by Harris and Texas Micro and are MOL standard passive backplace type stuff. However one of them was made by Kontron and it has a very strange power connector. It's a black cylinder about 1 1/4" in diameter and about 1 1/2" long that sticks out of the chassis. The back half of the cylinder is threaded so it appears that the mating connector screws onto it. The front portion of the cylinder is divided lenghtwise into five segments. Four of the sements have holes in them with a male connector pin resessed into the holes. I opened the chassis and found that it was marked as being built to operate off of 72 VDC power and that all four connecotr pins are wired tot he PSU. Is anyone familar with the type of connector or why or where they use 72 VDC power? The computer doesn't look like anything exceptional. It has a 10 MHz 286 CPU and uses a 9" CRT in it for the monitor. The only thing of real interest in it was a GPIB card. This one was made by INES (IIRC) in Germany. I've never heard of this brand before. The chassis does have one odd feature. The motherboard sits crossways in it and there are cables that plug into the back panel connectors of the various cards (they're now on the RH side of the computer since the MB is sideways) and run around to the back of the computer and connect to connectors there. Joe

22 years, 5 months

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Free stuff on the Vintage Computer Marketplace

by vcf＠siconic.com

Free items found on the VCM: Amstrad PLC PCW-8512 (UK) http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=469 For pickup: Complete Mac IIsi System (US) http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=436 Apricot PC (UK) http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=111 IBM 5360 (US) http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=118 For pickup: Compaq Portable II fixer-upper (US) http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=437 Altos Computer Systems ACS-8000 (UK) http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=467 TI Explorer Fiber Optic Monitor Cables (US) http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=103 Digital Equipment Corporation BA42 (US) http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=85 Hewlett-Packard 6942A (UK) http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=470 International Business Machines 8514 (UK) http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=457 Diablo Systems Incorporated 630 (UK) http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=468 Digital Equipment Corporation LN03R (UK) http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=458 Owner's Manual for the 7942 and 7946 Disc/Tape Drives (UK) http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=461 Owner's manual for Series 80 I/O ROM (UK) http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=462 IBM PC-DOS version 2.10 Manual Only/Box (US) http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=299 Hewlett-Packard 9835A (UK) http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=471 -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 5 months

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ANNOUNCE: www.pdp11.nl is back up!

by waltje＠pdp11.nl

Hi, Its my please to announce that after some time of fiddling with HDA's, dead electronics boards and several incomplete backup sets, I think I have the site back up completely, with no or only a few files missing. Cheers, Fred -- Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist Visit the VAXlab Project at http://VAXlab.pdp11.nl/ Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/ Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Mountain View, CA, USA

22 years, 5 months

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purchasing new 9-track tapes?

by brad＠heeltoe.com

Does anyone have any experience purchasing new 9-track tapes? (seems crazy to do such a thing but I want to load some up and I thought a new tape would have more stable media/binder/whatever and not break down like an old tape might) I ordered some 1200' reels from a company in california as an experiment (the tapes cost more than the drive :-). I wonder if, in fact, they are "new". Does 3M still make 1/2" tape on reels? -brad

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purchasing new 9-track tapes?

by kelly＠catcorner.org

> -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Parker > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Sent: 3/15/2004 12:15 PM > Subject: purchasing new 9-track tapes? > > > Does anyone have any experience purchasing new 9-track tapes? I haven't purchased any new in years, but if anyone needs tapes and would be willing to risk used, I have several hundred here. I have it in 3 different spool sizes, with and without write rings. Most are 6250 CPI certified. Make an offer. Shipping would be from 07848. USPS media mail is very inexpensive. Kelly

22 years, 5 months

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VAXstation 3100 M30 boot problem

by KVanMersbergen＠RandMcNally.com

Hello- My VAXstation 3100 M30 will not boot up anymore. It worked fine up until yesterday. All I get on the screen when I turn it on is this: < That's all. Nothing else. It will not even POST and bring up the console. I thought it might have something to do with the external SCSI connection but I'm not sure. Anyone know what is causing this? -Ken V. *************************************************************** This E-mail is confidential. It should not be read, copied, disclosed or used by any person other than the intended recipient. Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying by whatever medium is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the E-mail from your system. ***************************************************************

22 years, 5 months

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R80/RA81 diagnostic experience?

by bqt＠update.uu.se

On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 Gooijen H <GOOI(a)oce.nl> wrote: > I am not sure that removing the brake will help. More likely not. In fact, the break is there for a reason. To stop the drive when spinning down. Otherwise, it will spin for a long time. I also suspect that the break is engaged until you try to spin the disk up, so that the disk don't swing back and forth just because you move the drive around. > I once heard the following rumour: > the brake in combination with the 'heavy' motor > makes sure that the disk platters always rotate > in the same direction, never for a short instance > in the other direction (vibration, power flutter, > whatever reason). Rotation in the opposite direction, > for any short moment, will cause the air on which the > r/w head fly to disappear and result in an immediate > head crash ... Are you suggesting that a platter, weighting several kilograms, spinning at something like 3600 rpm, suddenly can change spin direction at a millisecond notice? > As I said, it is a rumour I once heard a few years ago. > Has anybody heard of this too? That's one of the more outrageous rumours I've ever heard. :-) The amount of energy required to do that trick would blow every fuse in your house, and then some. We're talking about living mass here. Physics, you know... ;-) However, vibration can cause a head crash... Johnny Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt(a)update.uu.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

22 years, 5 months

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SCSI Zip drives

by vcf＠siconic.com

For all the folks who were interested in purchasing a SCSI Zip drive from me, my apologies for the delay. I'm still trying to get them tested. Please continue in your mode of patience. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

22 years, 5 months

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OT: Justice, FBI Seek Rules for Internet Taps

by rdd＠rddavis.org

FYI: Justice, FBI Seek Rules for Internet Taps By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Published: March 13, 2004 Filed at 8:09 p.m. ET WASHINGTON (AP) -- Technology companies should be required to ensure that law enforcement agencies can install wiretaps on Internet traffic and new generations of digital communications, the Justice Department says. The push would effectively expand the scope of the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, a 1994 law that requires the telecommunications industry to build into its products tools that U.S. investigators can use to eavesdrop on conversations with a court order. Fearful that federal agents can't install wiretaps against criminals using the latest communications technologies, lawyers for the Justice Department, FBI and Drug Enforcement Administration said their proposals ``require immediate attention and resolution'' by the Federal Communications Commission. They called wiretaps ``an invaluable and necessary tool for federal, state, and local law enforcement in their fight against criminals, terrorists, and spies.'' ``The ability of federal, state, and local law enforcement to carry out critical electronic surveillance is being compromised today,'' they wrote in legal papers filed with the FCC earlier this week. ``Communications among surveillance targets are being lost.... These problems are real, not hypothetical.'' The FCC agreed last month to hold proceedings on the issue to ``address the scope of covered services, assign responsibility for compliance, and identify the wiretap capabilities required.'' Critics said the government's proposal would have far-reaching impact on new communications technologies and could be enormously expensive for companies that need to add wiretap-capabilities to their products, such as push-to-talk cellular telephones and telephone service over Internet lines. The Justice Department urged the FCC to declare that companies must pay for any such improvements themselves, although it said companies should be permitted to pass those expenses on to their customers. Stewart Baker, a Washington telecommunications lawyer and former general counsel at the National Security Agency, complained that the government's proposal applies broadly to high-speed Internet service and puts limits on the introduction of new technology until it can be made wiretap-friendly. Baker said the plan ``seeks to erect a brand new and quite extensive regulatory program'' that gives the FBI and telephone regulators a crucial role in the design of future communications technologies.

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HP cable identification?

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I have a whole flock of HP cables labeled 12979-600xx. That sounds really familiar to me, but I'm drawing a blank on what these cables are for. In addition to the part number, they say "Extender Cable" on them. Based on the box they were in, I suspect they have something to do with disc drives. However, that part number doesn't show up in my 7906 manuals, I know the 7900 daisychain cable is 13212, and they aren't I/O chassis extender cables. Anyone know offhand what these cables are for? They have one standard HP edge card connector on each end. Thanks! Jay West

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Strange Keyboard (take 2)

by lyosnorezel＠yahoo.com

Hey ya'll I finally went to the archives when I didn't receive any responses here and found that ya'll couldn't open the pics... so here they are in zip form... could someone please tell me what the heck this is from? Thanks Lyos Gemini Norezel http://geocities.com/lyosnorezel/strangekeyboard.zip Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam

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Googlismic Wavelet Propagation

by jpl15＠panix.com

Interesting that two references to an old post I made concerning the Yamaha synthesizer I listed here (before putting it on eBay - whereupon it sold to someone in the UK) are just now coming to the attention of Googlers - perhaps I'm making too much out of a co-incidental pair of posts - yet it seems to me that these "Hi There! Do you still have your NOS IBM 360/70 for sale?" type posts do tend to come in 'topic waves'.... Cyber-sociology is alive and well on Classiccmp. Cheers John PS: Now watch: in a year somebody will be brethlessly asking if the IBM mainframe sold yet.... ;}

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Strange Keyboard (take 2)

by Innfogra＠aol.com

On AOL upload the pictures to a screenname space and publish that location. (i.e.: http://members.aol.com/innfosale/ebay/9845br1b.jpg ) AOL zips all multiple pics so I don't use it for that. I, too, get uncomfortable receiving zips and generally do not download them. Rarely do I open one even if it is from someone I know. AOL has gotten much better. (my opinion as a user, please no flames). Paxton Astoria, OR

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LF: Information on Dy4 DSM 6816

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

At 07:50 14/03/2004 -0800, you wrote: > >I have recently acquired a Dy4 DSM 6816, a 68000 based workstation which >appears to be from the mid 80's. > >-- > >Is this a Multibus system based on the original Stanford SUN cpu board? It's a VME bus system. I can send pictures of the system and it's boards if that helps - right now I know nothing about it other than physical appearance. Regards, -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector.

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Strange Keyboard Answer

by Innfogra＠aol.com

The Keyboard is for a Convergent N-gine system. Modular little boxes that coupled together sideways. Also sold by Burroughs. First ones were 80186 systems. The last ones I saw were 386s. Did they ever make them in Pentiums? Paxton Astoria, OR

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another HP item available calculator/computer/disc?

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I have an HP 98041A disc interface available. This is a desktop type box that has a cable and big module that plugs into some kind of HP 98xx calculator/computer. The box has an HP-IB port on the back. As best I can tell, this box plugs into the HP-IB port of large old 14" HP drives like the 7906H, or, in the configuration I received it, the box plugs into the HP-IB port of an HP-IB optioned 13037 controller. This would allow the calculator to use non-HP-IB drives such as the 7905, 7906A-D, and 7920. This particular one was hooked up to the HP-IB port on a 13037 running to a 7906D drive. I have no need for this, it's available for trade. I have no way to test it, but based on the things I received in this load, I would hazard a guess that it probably does work. Jay West

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Paging Bob Shannon

by aek＠spies.com

> Ok, is is practical to get a 13037 and drive from you to me up here in MA? It appears his selective mail reception is working just fine.

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LF: Information on Dy4 DSM 6816

by aek＠spies.com

I have recently acquired a Dy4 DSM 6816, a 68000 based workstation which appears to be from the mid 80's. -- Is this a Multibus system based on the original Stanford SUN cpu board?

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Yamaha CS-80 Synth

by egmakris＠otenet.gr

Hello, have you sold your CS-80 yet? If not and are considering selling it, where in the USA are you located? Evangelos.

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HP gear available for trade

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I have nine 13037 controller boxes. These are the rackmount controllers that are necessary to use 7905/7906, and 7920 drives. They MAY be used for 7925's too, I forget, I can look up the 7925 info if need be. Each 13037 controller box can support up to 8 drives and 2 cpu's. These boxes each contain the microprocessor, error control, and device control PCA's. All have been tested thoroughly (as of tonight) with 7906 drives and burned in with diags - they are known to be completely functional. They have not been thoroughly cleaned and do need that, but since I want to get rid of them I didn't address cosmetics. I will be keeping 3 of the units for myself for sure (and two HP-IB option boards!). If the remaining 6 are not all claimed, I'll scavenge one of them for a spare set of boards, power supply, etc. and pitch the shell. With each 13037 box I will include either an original manual, or a copy (depending on how many duplicates I have) upon request. No cables will be included, but the cables will be available with the 7906 drives (see below). I am guessing the 13037 controller box weighs around 35 pounds. In a few weeks I will be offering some (about 7) 7906 drives as well. I guess if anyone wants a drive and controller, I will wait and ship both together. Any drives I offer will be tested and known working too. All depends on how many of them I can get working. Let me know if you want one, I'm starting the official list :) Expect hefty shipping charges, 7906's are quite a bit heavier than RL02's! Jay West

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R80/RA81 diagnostic experience?

by aek＠spies.com

schematics? can you scan them? I can't find schematics anywhere for any R* drive... -- I have R80,RA81, and RA60 scanned, will put them up on www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/discs in the next day or two

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LF: Information on Dy4 DSM 6816

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

I have recently acquired a Dy4 DSM 6816, a 68000 based workstation which appears to be from the mid 80's. The machine works, I can access a ROM monitor, and boot a OS loader from the hard drive, however I have no documentation, and the Unix OS itself appears to have been wiped from it. Looking to contact anyone who knows anything about this system... I would love to find an OS installation set for it, but any information at all would be helpful. Cheers, -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector.

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Strange Keyboard (take 2)

by lyosnorezel＠yahoo.com

Look Sellam... I'm doing the best I can... I do have linux RH9... but I am unable to connect to the internet using that box because: a.)I live with me parents (temporarily), b.) me parents only know and understand Winblows, and are currently using Winblows XP, c.) they have an ISP of goddamn AOL, for the love of god... (somebody shoot them please), d.)I don't own a domain (no money to buy one with), e.)I'm not allowed to install any compression software... so I'm stuck with winzip f.)due to a fault in the scanning software, only bitmaps (.bmp) can be used. g.)aol's "homepage" setup gives out the username and due to me need to remain hidden I cannot abide by that. Yes my name is "Lyos Gemini Norezel" but me aol account has one hell of alot more information then just me name. h.)... beginning to get the idea? I could list the obstacles all damn day and still not finish So please... try not to criticize what you don't understand... me parents and I have been fighting too many times to count... all of them about these issues... particuarly about Winblows and AOL. Gimme a break alright? I'm trying... it's not as easy as one would like to believe. Lyos Gemini Norezel <-------Sellam Wrote:-----------------> Thanks for going to all that trouble but I still won't look at them until Lyos manages to get his act together. Sheesh. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam

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Yamaha CS-80 Synth

by cherry7866＠yahoo.com

http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-October/020647.html I just came across your old post regarding selling this -- did you ever find a buyer or put on ebay? I am interested if you still have it collecting dust ;) Let me know, thanks! Cherry __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com

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OT: Justice, FBI Seek Rules for Internet Taps

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

> I'm unclear why it's called the "Justice" department. More like the > "Intrusion" department. All-American States Department of Penalties and Executions. (From Uriy Petuhov's Star Revenge epic, the same one from which the names Harhan and Quasijarus came.) MS

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monitor with screwed colour in bottom-right of screen

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

posted to sci.electronics.repair, but some of you guys might be able to help too... I've just been given a nice Iiyama 21" screen for free which seems to run quite happily, with the exception that the colours are screwed in the bottom-right inch or so of the display; the same sort of effect that would be achieved by holding a big magnet in that corner of the screen. Degaussing seems to have variable effect; sometimes it almost cures it and sometimes it just makes it worse, but it never goes away. Any ideas what might be up with it? Or is it a mechanical fault (i.e. the picture tube just shot)? Also, is this something that will get worse now it's started? If not, I could almost live with replacing the 17" screen on my desktop PC with this one, as the 17" is getting a little fuzzy and at least this 21" screen has a crisp display even if there is a bit of colour damage right in the corner... cheers Jules

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Experiences with shippping heavy stuff Eur-> US ?

by jos.mar＠bluewin.ch

Anyone have practical experiences shipping some 75 kg of computer from Europe to the US ? Any companies to be recommended ? Rates that have been paid ? Jos

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older technical software

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

Do you guys ever come across older technical software for the PC or Mac? Over the last few years I have found copies of some cad software along with mathematics, MathCAD, and a few other goodies for my 68k macs. I was wondering how common that kind of software is and what kind of places would have it.

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VAX wanted

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Anyone have a VAX 11/730 or 11/750 they might consider trading? --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

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Stupid Wire Wrapper Questions

by toresbe＠ifi.uio.no

Alright. Here are some questions regarding the PDP-7 wire rewrapping: Are there different sizes? Different/special wires? Is it hard? In comparison to soldering? Are there huge differences in wrapper types? I've got several offers, and thank you all for those. With some of this info, I might get back to some of them. :) -tsb

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"RP02-like" disk packs; yours for the postage

by aek＠spies.com

I fell for the same thing. They are 12 sector 5440 packs. He also did an AMAZINGLY poor job of packing. 7 packs in a cardboard box with NO padding. Shipped USPS media mail.

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74H52

by wei＠weisd.com

Jim: We have 5ea 74H52?s in stock @ .99 if you still need one. www.weisd.com <http://www.weisd.com/> and type 74H52 in the search box. Mel Pooley Wholesale Electronics Inc wei(a)weisd.com www.weisd.com

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TRS 80 Model 1 Question

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

Hello. I am about to take a TRS 80 under the knife to repair a keyboard. The computer works fine, 16K Model 1/ 008 (never seen one with a part number ending with "1008". The S/N 0000738) ...Anyway the E key does not work on the main keyboard, and the 2 key does not work on the number pad. I believe it's a contact problem, not a chip problem, based on what I have read. I have a schematic for TRS 80 Model III. I *assume* that the model I and III keyboards are basically the same enough to give me a clue where to isolate the circuitry for the "E" and "2" keys . Looking for a second opinion. Also if anyone on this mailing list knows details about the TRS 80 "008", I would be curious to lean more. I believe this is the last version of the TRS 80 Model 1, but other than that I have found few references to this model on the Internet from searching. bill from wilm, delaware

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Apple T-Shirts book

by MTPro＠aol.com

Apple T-Shirts: A Yearbook of History at Apple Computer by Gordon Thygeson Hello all, I've been looking for a copy of this book for some time, and I finally found someone with a few copies for sale. If you're interested, here's some info from amazon.com about it: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0966139348/qid=1079118229/sr=… Please write Erin O'Conner at: erinoc(a)yahoo.com Best, David Greelish, classiccomputing.com

22 years, 5 months

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EBAY???

by marvin＠rain.org

I just read some statistics about the change in direction that Ebay is taking. From AuctionBytes-Update Number 114 - March 7, 2004 - ISSN 1528-6703: "Collectibles comprised 60 percent of the total value of goods sold on eBay in 1999. In 2003, collectibles comprised just 13 percent of gross merchandise sales. Each year, selling on eBay becomes more challenging. If you have a rare and unique item, you'll get a very good price on eBay. Otherwise, in many categories, competition is tough."

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Amstrad 1512

by david＠errock.co.uk

Hi, I offered you an Amstrad 1512 some time ago... It's gone now - would you mind removing my email from the classiccmp website? Many thanks, David

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monitor with screwed colour in bottom-right of screen

by nbreeden2＠comcast.net

-Neil >Date: 12 Mar 2004 15:16:29 +0000 >From: Jules Richardson <julesrichardsonuk(a)yahoo.co.uk> >Subject: Re: monitor with screwed colour in bottom-right of screen >To: "General Discussion: "On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >Message-ID: <1079104588.6859.61.camel(a)weka.localdomain> >Content-Type: text/plain > > That's the degaussing cable - what removes stray magnetism from the > monitor on power-up/pressing of a 'degauss' button. If physically unplugging the degaussing coil (which is the loop of wire around the front of the monitor) fixes the color issue I would suspect that the degaussing switch circuit has become leaky and is leaving the coil partially energized all the time. The coil sees power for a short period when the monitor is first powered up or the user calls for a 'degaussing' >from the monitor controls. Under normal use the coil should not be energized. -Neil

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monitor with screwed colour in bottom-right of screen

by cb＠mythtech.net

>It broke >free of its moorings whilst going round a sharp corner - one very heavy >monitor somersaulted across the boot of the car with one hell of a bang >:-( > >I'm amazed the tube didn't implode to be honest, I don't know, I've found monitor tubes to be fairly sturdy when it comes to imploding. I've TRIED to break them before when throwing them out (why? because its fun). And it usually takes a few good whacks with something fairly heavy to crack the front glass. And then it just hisses as the vacuum is broken and lots of nasty dust floats around... no magic imploding like you see on TV. On the other hand, I've found the back end of tubes, to be very sensitive to breakage, and have cracked the gun off a number of them due to improper shipping, or just giving a hard throw into a dumpster. But again, no imploding, just broken glass. I do plan to attempt to play "monitor golf" with the next one I throw out... take a 10 lb sledge hammer, and swing it like a golf club at the front of the monitor, and see either how far you drive the hammer into the screen, or how far the monitor rolls away. :-) And alas, the building I work in is being sold to a more conservative owner (the local hospital), so I'm loosing my ability to toss things off the roof to watch them smash into the parking lot. The current owner lives many states away and is a little more relaxed about these things... but I don't think the hospital will be happy to have me continue my adventures under their ownership. :-( -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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[x-post from port-vax] HSD05 formatting

by port-vax＠microvax.org

Hi again guys :) I've got myself a storageworks shelf (with floor-stand hardware and the smoked doors :D ) that has 3 SBBs and a HSD05 DSSI<->SCSI unit. It's hooked up to my 4000/200 with a KFQSA MSCP DSSI card, and i've set it up so that I can SET HOST/DUP/UQSSP/DISK 0 into the HSD05 and run all the setup utils and toys there. However, I don't know how to partition these disks under NetBSD - i've had a bit of a fiddle with disklabel but quite frankly I get a bit lost, and most of the time disklabel locks up on me anyway - I suspect this is because it cannot know the true geometry of the disk it is talking to, but that's just a supposition... The three disks I have appear to the VAX firmware as DIS610, DUA620 and DUA630 - all appearing as RF72 disks, and the VAX is netbooting NetBSD 1.5.2. Can anyone explain to me how I can get these babies formatted so I can eventually install NetBSD on them? TIA alex/melt

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"RP02-like" disk packs; yours for the postage

by brad＠heeltoe.com

Hi, I bought 3 "RL02-like" disk packs on ebay which of course turn out not to be RL02's. (the picture was of an actual RL02, so I took a chance...) Anyway, before I toss them in the dumpster if anyone would like them they are yours for the postage. They are physically ok and fit into an RL02 drive. They spin up fine but don't come ready (no doubt due to missing timing track or something like that) Perhaps some other non-DEC machine can use them. -brad

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TRS 80 Model 1 Question

by majordomo1＠cox.net

Ahoy, I've performed a cleaning procedure many times using a paper clip hooked under the key, and pulling straight up till it flew out. One drop of alcohol of at least 91% is then applied. Look for where the key landed and reseat it, and your OK. .. good luck .. harry .. > > From: "B.Degnan" <billdeg(a)degnanco.com> > Date: 2004/03/11 Thu PM 09:49:41 EST > To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: TRS 80 Model 1 Question > > Hello. > I am about to take a TRS 80 under the knife to repair a keyboard. The > computer works fine, 16K Model 1/ 008 (never seen one with a part number > ending with "1008". The S/N 0000738) ...Anyway the E key does not work on > the main keyboard, and the 2 key does not work on the number pad. I > believe it's a contact problem, not a chip problem, based on what I have > read. I have a schematic for TRS 80 Model III. I *assume* that the model > I and III keyboards are basically the same enough to give me a clue where > to isolate the circuitry for the "E" and "2" keys . Looking for a second > opinion. Also if anyone on this mailing list knows details about the TRS > 80 "008", I would be curious to lean more. I believe this is the last > version of the TRS 80 Model 1, but other than that I have found few > references to this model on the Internet from searching. > bill from wilm, delaware > > >

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VaxStation Keyboard Insanity

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Yes, S3 is in the DOWN position, to use the framebuffer. The VaxStation completely ignores the LK201 that I've plugged into it. All four lites on the LK stay ON. On Thu, 11 Mar 2004 23:27:27 -0000 "Witchy" <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk> writes: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org > > [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of > > jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com > > Sent: 11 March 2004 21:36 > > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > > Subject: VaxStation Keyboard Insanity > > > > Is there a special 'dance' that I have to do before the > > VaxStation responds to the keyboard? > > Are they really fragile, or something? > > Don't you need to set the switch known as S3 to tell the VAXstation > it's now > using an alternate console instead of a framebuffer? It should be > on the > back next (I think) to the halt button. I can't remember which > direction it > needs to be in, but you won't harm anything by changing it. > > Cheers > > w > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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epson qx-10 computer

by Keeshz＠aol.com

Did you ever sell or give away your QX-10? I am looking to acquire one. Thanks. Mary keeshz(a)aol.com

22 years, 5 months

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grid

by slotdelorean＠telefonica.net

hi, you don?t know me, but in a internet searching i found a thread of a forum relating the EPROM problems in a gridcase computer, i have a grid with the brand "philips pc200" ??, but this is a grid, concretely the model with isa bus, i found than the four rom sockets back a soft plastic panel are empty and when i plug it on the only thing it does is show-me a "disk boot error" message, please if you can send me the eprom image files to be able to restore it. THANKS.

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Paging Bob Shannon

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

I've been unable to communicate (via email) with Bob Shannon for quite some time now. Does anyone know what has become of him? --tom

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any electronic surplus places around Richmond, Virginia?

by melamy＠earthlink.net

I am heading down from Fredericksburg to Richmond Saturday and I was looking for any info from the group about surplus places. I haven't been able to find any by internet searches, so is anyone able to point out one or two? (or more... :) Thanks! best regards, Steve Thatcher

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VAX won't recognize TQK70

by rdd＠rddavis.org

After attaching an external power supply to my TK70 (since I don't have the sled with connectors to the VAX's power supply, and didn't know where to solder power cables to from inside the empty bay), and installing the TQK70 into a Qbus slot, I can't get the system to even recognize the TQK70. Nothing lights up on thee TK70, although both LEDs on the TQK70 are lit. The cable is connected the right way. The CSR on the TQK70 is set to 774500, and the jumpers are connecting the bottom two of the three rows of pins on the drive-select jumpers. I've tried inserting the TQK70 into various slots (including upper and lower, since I understand that grant continuation follows a serpentine pattern. When I do a show qbus command, the TQK70 doesn't show up: >>> sh qbus -20000200 (761000) = 0000 IDV11A -20000202 (761002) = 807F -20000204 (761004) = 0000 -20000206 (761006) = F9FD -200002AC (761254) = 00C0 DTCN5 -200002AE (761256) = 0000 -200002B4 (761264) = 0020 DTC05 -200002B6 (761266) = 0000 -200002B8 (761270) = 0020 DTC05 -200002BA (761272) = 0000 -20001F40 (777500) = 0020 IPCR Any thoughts/ideas? -- Copyright (C) 2003 R. D. Davis The difference between humans & other animals: All Rights Reserved | My VAX | an unnatural belief that we're above Nature & www.rddavis.org | runs VMS & | her other creatures, using dogma to justify such 410-744-4900 | doesn't crash!| beliefs and to justify much human cruelty.

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C64 Commands/User Manual

by chrisc＠addpower.com

Check for the manual (lovingly reproduced) at http://www.lemon64.com/manual/ Cheers, Chris Cureau Lyos Norezel <lyosnorezel@yahoo. To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org com> cc: Sent by: Subject: C64 Commands/User Manual cctech-bounces@clas siccmp.org 03/10/2004 03:00 PM Please respond to "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" Hey ya'll... does anyone have an online/pdf/html/etc version of the C64 command list or (better yet) the User Manual? I have a working C64 it good condition along with the 1541 floppy and a printer with interface. Nice setup... but could really use a PC with the old fashioned 5.25" floppy drive. *Sigh* Lyos Gemini Norezel --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you're looking for faster.

22 years, 5 months

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VaxStation Keyboard Insanity

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong? I have two VaxStation 3100/M76's that refuse to respond to the keyboard! After the POST, I get the usual error messages for missing disks and missing AUI adaptor. I then get the ">>>" prompt, and that's it. I'm using several LK-201's, and they all behave the same. Both VaxStations behave the same. Is there a special 'dance' that I have to do before the VaxStation responds to the keyboard? Are they really fragile, or something? Thanks! Jeff ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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VAX won't recognize TQK70

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

R. D. Davis <rdd(a)rddavis.org> wrote: > >>>e/p/w 20001940 > ?66 ILLEGAL ADDRESS 20001944 > >>>e/p/w 20001942 > ?66 ILLEGAL ADDRESS 20001946 Hmm, I wonder who is adding 4 to the error address: the machine check generation logic in the CPU or the machine check handler in the firmware... MS

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VAX won't recognize TQK70

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

R. D. Davis <rdd(a)rddavis.org> wrote: > The CSR on the TQK70 is set to 774500 [...] > > When I do a show qbus command, the TQK70 doesn't show up: [in SHOW QBUS] Try reading the IP and SA registers with EXAMINE commands: >>>E/P/W 20001940 >>>E/P/W 20001942 If instead of numbers (values read), the console responds with a message to the effect that no device responded to the read, it means that there is something wrong with the TQK70 board. It has nothing to do with the power to the drive since the controller must respond to reads of its IP and SA registers even if there is no drive at all. Grant continuity problems also won't affect the ability to read or write registers, since the device can still act as a slave, it needs a grant only to do DMA or send an interrupt vector to the CPU. MS

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contolling static

by kenziem＠sympatico.ca

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I recently had dry wall and laminate flooring installed in the basement. Since then, I've been getting shocks when I walk into the room and touch anything. Any ideas on reducing/controlling the static? - -- Ottawa, Canada Collector of vintage computers http://www.ncf.ca/~ba600 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAT60ALPrIaE/xBZARAh4WAKDWiT/OJwDc85ftZQvNJM/SKhSAcgCfQnx1 MoYPs5M0kN9zeT+IUsT/nzs= =9D+o -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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contolling static

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi One other thought. Take some liquid dish soap and delute a couple of spoons full into a bucket. Mop the floor with this, without rinsing ( just let it dry ). This should also help some. Dwight >From: "Brian Mahoney" <brianmahoney(a)look.ca> > >> > >> >Any ideas on reducing/controlling the static? >> > >> >- -- >> >Ottawa, Canada >> > > >The problem isn't moisture, most basements have enough of that especially if >you used new wood for studs. The laminate flooring is causing the problem. >There are some kinds that have anti-static built into them but not yours, >obviously. >If the problem is around your stored computers, I would suggest an >anti-static mat with a ground cord. For the price you could get a few and >place them all around your work area. I'm sure someone here could figure out >how to ground the whole floor since it is now, more or less, monolithic. >Hope this helps. > >BM > >

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contolling static

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: Mike <kenziem(a)sympatico.ca> > Hi Don't wear shoes. Humidify the air. Get an ion generator. Dwight >Hash: SHA1 > >I recently had dry wall and laminate flooring installed in the basement. >Since then, I've been getting shocks when I walk into the room and touch >anything. > >Any ideas on reducing/controlling the static? > >- -- >Ottawa, Canada > >

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Quick DECrepeater question

by lists＠microvax.org

Hey guys, a quick question whilst i'm sat at my lists email address: Can anyone explain the difference between a DECrepeater 90T and a 90T+ ? thanks as always alex/melt

22 years, 5 months

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C64 Commands/User Manual

by lyosnorezel＠yahoo.com

Hey ya'll... does anyone have an online/pdf/html/etc version of the C64 command list or (better yet) the User Manual? I have a working C64 it good condition along with the 1541 floppy and a printer with interface. Nice setup... but could really use a PC with the old fashioned 5.25" floppy drive. *Sigh* Lyos Gemini Norezel --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster.

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Paging John Allain...

by vcf＠siconic.com

...are you getting my messages? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Good experience (ESR Meter)

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Just wanted to pass this on to the list, as when I posted about it earlier several folks replied that they had, or wanted an ESR meter for working on their classic computers. One of the more popular (and for good reason) ESR meters is the Dick Smith one. I believe the Dick Smith one was an implementation of an original design by Bob Parker. While the Dick Smith one is a great meter, EVB electronics partnered up with Bob Parker and came up with a new unit. This one has exactly the same specs as the Dick Smith unit, but a few really nice improvements. Much better display quality (bigger brighter numbers) More of a professional, polished looking case and probes Much better protection from charged caps Automatic power off after 3 minutes of inactivity (instead of 2) More to the point, the Dick Smith meter is 50-60 USD in kit form, and 75 to 110 USD assembled (seems to average about 97). But you need a calibrated DC supply to calibrate the unit once built. The EVB unit comes preassembled, calibrated, with leads, for $87 USD including shipping. For roughly the same bucks as the Dick Smith one, you get a slightly better unit (same design). More to the point, two days after I got my EVB unit, I got an email from the owner at EVB. He just wanted to make sure I got my unit, that it worked correctly, and that I was satisfied. Turns out there was a minor problem with my unit, and he took a genuine interest in the problem and made it right (was just a mechanical adjustment to the bananna plug sockets). Most impressive in this day & age, so I wanted to pass on my experience and recommendation. Jay West --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

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AUI cables in UK?

by bqt＠update.uu.se

On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 "Antonio Carlini" <arcarlini(a)iee.org> wrote: > > > The rules aren't quite what you said -- the transceiver > > rule is that > > > you put them on the stripes. You can put transceivers on adjacent > > > stripes. > > > > You can, but I was always told (and read somewhere) there > > should be two stripes between, not one. > > > Paul's rule (which is the one I was told) is that you can use > *any* stripes and there is *no* requirement for one stripe > in between transceivers (never mind two). > > Given that this stuff was often hidden in suspended ceilings > and suchlike, it would be quite tricky to check that adjacent > stripes (or two adjacent stripes) were unused (I assume the rule > applies in both directions. Surely it would have been easier > to miss out the unusuable stripes? > > OTOH I don't have any documentation to hand that says one > way or the other but I'd be happy to see it written down > unequivocally somewhere. I'm pretty sure that the stripes are at 2.5 m. I'm also pretty sure that the standard says you should have 5 meters between transcievers. But I have actually never really understood why. Maybe just to not damage the cable to much with vampire taps? There cannot be an electrical or signal reason for this, as far as I can tell. Johnny Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt(a)update.uu.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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New-in-Box Atari 825 printers

by vcf＠siconic.com

Nothing terribly special, but this fellow contacted me this morning about a lot of Atari 825 printers new-in-the-box that he came upon. He's posted one on the Vintage Computer Marketplace: http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=456 For you Atari fans, this would be a good opportunity to get a brand new 825 printer at a not-bad price ($20). -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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[x-post from port-vax] HSD05 formatting

by lists＠microvax.org

Hi again guys :) I've got myself a storageworks shelf (with floor-stand hardware and the smoked doors :D ) that has 3 SBBs and a HSD05 DSSI<->SCSI unit. It's hooked up to my 4000/200 with a KFQSA MSCP DSSI card, and i've set it up so that I can SET HOST/DUP/UQSSP/DISK 0 into the HSD05 and run all the setup utils and toys there. However, I don't know how to partition these disks under NetBSD - i've had a bit of a fiddle with disklabel but quite frankly I get a bit lost, and most of the time disklabel locks up on me anyway - I suspect this is because it cannot know the true geometry of the disk it is talking to, but that's just a supposition... The three disks I have appear to the VAX firmware as DIS610, DUA620 and DUA630 - all appearing as RF72 disks, and the VAX is netbooting NetBSD 1.5.2. Can anyone explain to me how I can get these babies formatted so I can eventually install NetBSD on them? TIA alex/melt

22 years, 5 months

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[x-post from port-vax] HSD05 formatting

by trash＠microvax.org

Hi again guys :) I've got myself a storageworks shelf (with floor-stand hardware and the smoked doors :D ) that has 3 SBBs and a HSD05 DSSI<->SCSI unit. It's hooked up to my 4000/200 with a KFQSA MSCP DSSI card, and i've set it up so that I can SET HOST/DUP/UQSSP/DISK 0 into the HSD05 and run all the setup utils and toys there. However, I don't know how to partition these disks under NetBSD - i've had a bit of a fiddle with disklabel but quite frankly I get a bit lost, and most of the time disklabel locks up on me anyway - I suspect this is because it cannot know the true geometry of the disk it is talking to, but that's just a supposition... The three disks I have appear to the VAX firmware as DIS610, DUA620 and DUA630 - all appearing as RF72 disks, and the VAX is netbooting NetBSD 1.5.2. Can anyone explain to me how I can get these babies formatted so I can eventually install NetBSD on them? TIA alex/melt

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[x-post from port-vax] KZQSA tech docs needed

by lists＠microvax.org

Hi guys - as per title really. Does anyone have a copy of any documentation pertaining to the KZQSA QBUS SCSI adaptor local? I've followed a couple of trails and hit dead ends. I'm looking to do a bit of dev with the card... TIA alex/melt

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Alpha & HP on eBay UK

by classiccmp.org＠irrelevant.fsnet.co.uk

Spotted these on my wanderings. They are physically too big for me to bid on, but since we have talk of these on here, thought I'd mention them as they might be a bargain for someone, depending how the bidding goes. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3083732068&category=14… Alpha 4100 + Raid Disk Arrays + Server Rack Located in London 6 days to go, currently sat at ?1.00 with no reserve. Also of interest: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3082607371&category=176 HP Storage Rack Unit -0055 with 36 various 9.1Gb drives. 1 day left, no bids, ?1.00 reserve not met.

22 years, 5 months

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Vinegar and Computer guts...

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Does anyone know if it would be safe to put a dish of Vinegar inside a computer? I've got a Sun Ultra 60 that smells. I've already sprayed the foam and fans with Lysol, and I've taken bleach to the foam as well, plus I'm getting ready to put the front (which is the foam that smells the worst) through the dishwasher. However, the inside of the computer smells some as well, and it's been suggested that I stick an open dish of vinegar in/near the computer, changing the vinegar a couple times a day for a couple days. I'm slightly nervous about this as Vinegar is 5% acidic. I'm just afraid to have the system in the house, and power it up until I get the smell beat down thanks to my allergies. Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

22 years, 5 months

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Sun U10/U60 Creator 3D card question

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

I've got an Sun Ultra 10 with a nice Creator 3D card in it. Yesterday I scored a Sun Ultra 60 with dual 300's :^) Is there any reason I can't move the Creator 3D card from the U10 to the U60? Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

22 years, 5 months

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[x-post from port-vax] KZQSA tech docs needed

by port-vax＠microvax.org

Hi guys - as per title really. Does anyone have a copy of any documentation pertaining to the KZQSA QBUS SCSI adaptor local? I've followed a couple of trails and hit dead ends. I'm looking to do a bit of dev with the card... TIA alex/melt

22 years, 5 months

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VAXStation disk question

by jpl15＠panix.com

O Gurus assembled - hear my story: Was at Mike Quinn's in the Area of the Bay on Saturday after a nice visit to Sellam's ..... um.... place of business. ;} Found a forlorn VAXStation 3100 M38 upside down in a stack of PCs, and bought same for about twice the going rate. Of course, that amount of money would still not get one a decent burrito, so I didn't pay much. Getting it home and hooked up, it goes thru the usual VAXStation boot sequence ending in the >>> chevron prompt. Attempting to boot, >>> b (ret) produces a 1 minute wait and returns 40 NOSUCHDEV 06 HLT INST PC=00000C66 the first time after power-up and 40 NOSUCHDEV 84 FAIL subsequently to [back-panel button] resetting and re-attempting a boot. This was a DEC-owned machine, it has a DEC property/asset tag on it, and the drive is a DEC RZ23-E (Connor). If it's running, it's the damn quietest HD I've ever encountered. The drive is getting it's proper voltages, +5 and +12, and upon power up the faintest of 'clicks' can be heard within it (parking solenoid??) and then nothing. I have tried the judicious use of repetitive impulse torque normal to the plane of rotation of the platters (I held it and banged a corner with the handle of a screwdriver) in case the spindle was perhaps stuck. SO: I'd love to know what's on this HD, but it's possible to also form the assumption that it has gone to be with it's Honorable Ancestors and will not return this way again. Any thoughts / ideas? Thanking Y'all in advance: Cheers John

22 years, 5 months

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c64 guru: save a file again

by ron.hudson＠sbcglobal.net

It seems I can't save a file twice with the same name ... write basic program ... save "program",8 ... edit basic program ... save "program",8 (light on floppy blinks - error ) verify "program",8 wont verify ... power cycle ... load "program",8 ... view program ... it's the old program, not the edited program. this behaviour noted on both a read c64sx (before it croaked) and on the VICE emulator. I can't seem to see anything in the manual about it.. and also no command to delete a file.

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Ultrix V4.2 sources et al...

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

R. D. Davis <rdd(a)rddavis.org> wrote: > This is interesting. Why then do DECvoice and Fallon FAX cards, for a > Qbus VAX, have connectors for a T1 line on them? Not being very > familiar with telephone equipment with T1 lines, perhaps I'm > overlooking something. Any thoughts on this? In telephony applications a T1 is split into 24 channels each carrying a phone call. When, however, someone speaks about T1 as a dedicated line for Inet, a device called a CSU/DSU takes the entire T1 payload (all 24 channels together) and turns it into an EIA-422 or V.35 synchronous serial stream that a router then has to deal with. In fractional T1 applications the CSU/DSU is reconfigured to take fewer than all 24 channels, reducing the bit rate on the EIA-422 or V.35 line. MS

22 years, 5 months

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TelePad Stylus Needed

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

Does anyone here know where I can get a stylus for this machine? It's a '486 slate pc by TelePad. I'm hoping that they used a compatible stylus >from like maybe a Kurta pad, or something similar. The TelePad company itself is long gone . . . . Thanks! Jeff ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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