Hi,
I've saved two annexes from going into the 'dead machine' skip but
haven't managed to talk to either of them yet. I'm planning to use them
to give me console access to the two DEC workstation clusters that I'm
building as a student research distributed systems test bed.
I saw some mail on an Annex 3 but there is no 'Test' button on an Annex
2 - just a Normal/Diag switch and a reset button.
I've tried powering on with the switch in diag and normal and terminal
connected at 9600,4800,2400 and 1200 (all N-8-1) but, so far, no joy.
Does anyone have any information on this model?
Thanks,
Nick.
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I have a Diablo 620 daisy-wheel impact printer available to anyone
who would like it.
This printer was carefully restored by the folks at Printerworks in
Hayward, California in 1988 and was lightly used for about a year
before being put in storage. It looks to be in excellent shape.
It has its matching cable which can be configured as a serial RS-232
or parallel Centronics interface. It is capable of proportional
spacing and uses a film ribbon for a nice letter quality impression.
Unfortunately, I do not have software drivers for it, so you'd need
to do some research. (Many word processing programs of the era
included appropriate Diablo drivers.)
I have a number of different font daisy wheels around here somewhere
and should be able to find them to go with the printer.
I am located close to Boston and would much prefer having it picked
up than trying to properly pack it for shipping. However, I do have
plenty of bubble wrap and might be able to find a big enough box
to send it via UPS if someone wants to pay for the shipping.
Please email me if your are interested.
Regards,
Will
I found a specialix si/xio multi serial port controler, sadly without
the cables and actual link modules, it uses a ST t225 tranputer along
with 64kb memory.
As I looked at the linux software for it, it seems as I could upload
a small program to it and make it run, Anyone tried such a thing ?
While it might be a waste of good I/O card, without those external
modules it aint much good, might as well have som fun with it.
Would anyone happen to have drivers for a Newport system solutions
inc. isa serial card, its a full length card using a nec v50.
For this card I have everything except the drivers, Newport system is
part of Cisco now, but their site doesnt hold much infomation about
their old products.
regards Jacob Dahl Pind
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I'm trying to stick with 8 stuff so am forarding this on to the list.
Contact jwreames(a)comcast.net and indicate if you will be scanning/making
stuff available to help him decide who get it.
>I have a bunch of old dec stuff (vax type) to dispose of from work. Lots
>of software distribution tapes etc, some manuals (no real hardware except
>for some common boards like mv2 stuff...) Do you know of anyone who uses
>these in "living" collections? (who might be interested in scanning some
>of the manuals etc)
>
>I think i might have some/all of the boot floppies for a 8500 console,
>some 8200 manuals, mv manuals, I might have an emulex dhq clone manual,
>I might have an emulex smd controller manual, that kinda stuff.
>
>I can take an inventory and let you know.. It seems a waste to trash all
>of this stuff.
>
>The Mac's current chip is a XC68LC040RC33B.
>I have a spare chip here, a XC68040HRC25M
>which looks the wrong speed.
The one you have will probably work anyway. But since it isn't cleared
for 33 Mhz, it could fry (chances are it won't as Macs have usually
faired pretty well at being overclocked).
If you have no use for the 25 MHz version you have, I'd actually love to
make a trade. I'm pretty sure the ones I pulled are all 33 MHz (I'll
check in the morning), but since I planned to use them in Centris 610's
which are only clocked at 20 MHz, I'd be fine with a 25 MHz chip instead.
If you do have another use for it, no biggie, I'll still send you a full
040 chip (pending I have a 33 MHz one, but I'm pretty sure that is the
only speed I have, they came from dead Quadra 630's which were 33 MHz
machines)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
I have several systems to trade or sell. Need to move them out. They're located in Houston TX and I'll give preference to anyone who can pick them up. Some I can't ship, too big, but some I can. Conditions are unknown as I haven't had time to work with any of these and don't suspect I will any time in the future. Not even sure what all is in each system. Thus, they're up for sale or trade. Ok, what is available...
PDP-11/60 card bays and cards, power supplies and I think the front panel. No cabinet. Can't ship this.
Kaypro 2
HP 715/100
HP 9000/300
HP 9836 - couple of key tops broken off but I still have them
I can send pics of any of the systems for those that are interested.
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Can anybody tell me anything about these? Found a little something I thought was word processor, but it actually looks like some sort of serial terminal using 80 column paper for output vs. a CRT. Very compact, kind of a neat looking little package. Googling has come up dry.....
Silly question, I'm sure, but has anyone ever seen a CM-1 or CM-2
Connection Machine in the wild?
For those not familiar with it: http://mission.base.com/tamiko/cm/
Ken
Has anyone got the system disks for the Sanyo MBC 555? If so, Tiziano in
Italy needs them. Please contact him at <tiziano.garuti(a)tin.it>.
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I once had an Apple IIc that didn't have a power
supply.
Radio Shack sells a regulated 15v supply, rather
inexpensively, and I bought that and made up a cable
to go from that to the IIc.
It worked nicely until the unit was stolen from my
car.
I've since gotten another with a monitor, the stand
and a power supply.
I am looking for a Laser128EX.
I did a lot of programming on one of those, back in
the day.
Al
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I'm considering buying one of the Velleman PCG10AU PC-based Function
Generators and one of the Velleman PCS500AU PC-based oscilloscopes from
Designnotes.com. Has anyone had any experince with either of thse items or
with Designnotes?
Joe
For those that followed my ADM3 terminal saga, most of the "Lear Sieglers" turned out to actually be the above terminals (there is still a "mystery terminal" that I can't ID, I am going to have to post a picture somewhere...)
Most of these have manufacture dates at or about 1981. Anybody have any info on these? What they emulate, if they are of any interest, etc. Want to take one (or 5) off my hands ;-)
Although I would prefer a nice VAX or PDP in my basement, I can't afford
'the big boys'. Does anyone want to get rid of any old Commodore Equip?
I need anything from C-64 up, and any accessories (tape drive, disk
drive, software). I almost had a PET that was at the Goodwill, until one
of the employess grabbed it and said they already bought it...yeah
right! Thanks musicman(a)satcom.whit.org
I have several systems available free for pickup in St. Charles, Missouri, just outside of St. Louis. The systems are:
NEC APC - This machine is complete but somewhat yellowed. It's an old 8086 CP/M system with two 8" floppy drives and a monochrome screen.
SGI Iris 4D/310VGX - This machine is in very good condition. It's the size of a large dorm fridge and includes several boards but no hard drives.
IBM 5363 System/36 - This is a small member of the IBM System/36 line. It is the size of a large PC tower and includes several hard drives.
IBM 5247 - I think this is a hard disk unit for the IBM System/23 line of computers. It may work with others as well.
Altos 1086 - This machine is the size of a large PC tower. This is an 80286 machine designed to run XENIX.
I also have two SGI 20" color monitors available.
If you are interested or have any questions you may contact me at nick(a)computer-history.org
These machines are all quite large and are available for pickup only. If there are no takers you will probably see them on the Vintage Computer Market Place and then on eBay, they won't end up in the landfill. This shouldn't be considered a rescue, I'm just trying to make room for machines that I have more interest in.
No software or manuals are included with any of the systems.
Thanks,
Nick
Hi,
Just got it in, but cant use it: a very nice Fujitsu rack on casters,
same form factor and looks as the DEC BA123, with space and rails to
hold two 8" (Fuji) SMD drives. Yes, the drives are included. :)
Given the size and weight, for local pickup only, in Holland.
If interested, contact me off-list.
Cheers,
Fred
Hi,
A guy in the S.F. Bay Area has the following available.
I'll give the first couple of responders his contact info.
Photos of most (but not the Molecular) at
http://www.sieler.com/temp/computers.html
His descriptions follow....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Molecular Computer
First CP/M Multi-User where each user has their own CPU. About the size of
a two drawer file cabinet.
14" 30MB hard disk
8" Floppy drive
Each user had a Z80 4Mhz 64K with 2 serial ports
Chassis could hold 30 CPU Cards.
Included would be a couple of Televideo 925/950 Terminals.
[SS: I've had some discussions with the lead designer for Molecular ...
a very interesting computer!]
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Kaypro 10
First "Transportable computer with internal 10M Bytes hard disk"
Z80 - 4Mhz
64K RAM
1 Floppy 5 1/4 400KB
10M Byte hard disk
CP/M 2.2
With Cloth Carrying case
Purchased in 1982 for $2,750
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To paraphrase my friend Bob: "It ain't Dayton if it don't rain". Friday was
the best day in my 3 years of going. I do recall seeing a SPARC 5 on
basically standing in a puddle. I saw several SPARCStations around
as well as a Netra T1. Oh yes, a PILE of Data General multiprocessor
386 RAIDs (was this their last machine?). List price was $75 each.
If you wanted soldering stuff, this was the year to go, lots of different
irons and tips. Last year there was an oversupply of cables; I didn't
see that this year. And lots of small capacity disks everywhere.
At least it was warmer this year than last but the rain makes it difficult
just because everything is covered.
I'll go next year just because it's fun to see what's there.
And to see how the maxim "One man's junk is another man's treasure" applies...
I'm still seeking out the PC interface for the Alpha Microsystems
VideoTrax VHS tape drive. I've scored the drive (which is just a slightly
modded Panasonic VCR) but I still need the interface, which is the last
important piece of this puzzle I'm working on.
I have no idea what it would look like exactly. It probably has some
phono jacks on the back, and a one or two row header with anywhere from 4
to 8 pins. It probably is labeled "Alpha Microsystems".
If anyone's got such a beast then you will be my New Best Friend :)
Willing to pay good money.
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While digging around in the basement last night I found my old Nintendo
GameBoy, with a 1999 manufacture date. That makes it 15 years old.
Does this now make it a classic?
The interesting thing is that the old 1999 GameBoy games will play in
my six year old's brand new 2004 Gameboy Advanced SP.
I have several items (calculators, robots, Mac's, etc) that I'm trying to
restore and the battery acid has eaten away the battery contacts. Anyone
have a easy way or source to get new contacts to replace the damaged ones?
Thanks
I see a HP 9820 or 30 in the pile, not to mention a HP 9825 and a HP 86. I
want to go but it is too far. Looks like a great sale!!!!
If anyone goes please post a report. It looks well worth going.
Look for very old large 200 & 400 channel dataloggers. I have pulled a lot of
core memory stacks from those.
Some of the tube stuff will have tubes that are worth more than the
instruments.
Looks like lots of collectibles. I would love to know the history of the
junkpile. It looks like someone has been going to auctions for a long time.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
> So there are companies, even divisions of Fortune 500
> companies, that still value ancient old PC hardware, and use
> it every day.
At some companies, they are STILL running Atari MegaST computers that run
inserting machines in their statement processing centers! I'm trying to get my
hands on one since I know they just get tossed out eventually.
Hi,
I recently inherited a bunch of TTL and such from a list member (thanks,
Zane!), and after going through it all, I find there are several items where
I don't know how to, or otherwise can't, use them. These are basically free
to a good home (postage would be good). Many of them look like they might
be suitable for someone's vintage computer equipment :-).
(Since this is slightly off-topic, please direct replies off-list.)
Vince
Count Part Datasheet? Pkg Style Description
4 AM26LS32BPC Yes 16DIP Quad Differential
Line Receivers (RS422/RS423)
5 AM9518DC AppNotes Only DIP Data Ciphering
Processor
34 AMP749265-1 Yes 7pin Circular
Mini-DIN Connectors (Mouser 161-2207 equiv.)
1 AMZ8068DC AppNotes Only DIP See AM9518DC
1 D8257C Yes(zipped TIF) DIP Programmable
DMA Controller
4 GA1110E No DIP (Triquint)
Clock Distribution (no datasheet)
4 KMM59256BN-8 No 30SIP SAMSUNG 256Kx9
Memory
1 MC6859L No Dip DES chip?
5 MM2801J9S-07 No 60SIM NMB 256Kx9
Memory
15 MT4C16257DJ-6 Yes 40SOJ 256Kx16 DRAM
2 MT9259M-12 No 60SIM Mitel 1Mx9
Memory (See TM024EAD9)
7 P21256-12 Yes(NTE) 16DIP (Intel) 256Kbit
DRAM
3 P51C256-15 16DIP (Intel)
DRAM
15 P8237A-5 Yes DIP
Programmable DMA Controller
15 PE-65434A No 10SIP(5+4) Analog Frontend
Filter
2 SN75111N No 16DIP Quad General
Line Driver
6 TM024EAD9-10L No 60SIM TI 1Mx9 Memory
9 WDC90C20-LR No TSOP VGA Flat Panel
Display Controller
31 No PLCC Low
Profile 68 Pin PLCC-PLCC socket
23 No PLCC Low
Profile 32 Pin PLCC-PLCC socket
25 No PLCC Low
Profile 44 Pin PLCC-PLCC socket
Rumor has it that Vintage Computer Festival may have mentioned these words:
>I know, I know, I'm sorry! I got the message and it's on my callback list
>but I've been so swamped lately that I haven't had time to tend to certain
>matters.
Sounds familiar... ;-) Not to heap "yet another thing" onto the plate, but
has anyone gotten info on any lodging deals as of yet? I've got the time
off & the okeydokey from the Big Boss (a.k.a. Wife, granted, to garner such
permission I promised to bring her along & toss in a Lobster dinner as
well... ;-) and so any hotel/motel deals would be kewl...
Oh, maps / points of interest would be neat, too. Other than the VCF, my
big thing is I want to tour the Sam Adams brewery... hehehe...
>I swear I'll be caught up this weekend. I was supposed to be caught up
>last weekend and now I'm sure Evan is pissed at me :(
Famous last words, eh? I've been swearing about being caught up "by this
weekend" for... hell... 15 years now. ;^> I finally got most of what I
needed to get done *last month* thru this week...
Heck, at this rate, I'll have to retire by the time I'm 40, just to have
enough time to catch up on all the stuff I need to do before I die![1]
Laterz, and thanks!
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
[1] And that's if I live to be 80... anything after that should be gravy... ;-)
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Rumor has it that Vintage Computer Festival may have mentioned these words:
>I know, I know, I'm sorry! I got the message and it's on my callback list
>but I've been so swamped lately that I haven't had time to tend to certain
>matters.
Sounds familiar... ;-) Not to heap "yet another thing" onto the plate, but
has anyone gotten info on any lodging deals as of yet? I've got the time
off & the okeydokey from the Big Boss (a.k.a. Wife, granted, to garner such
permission I promised to bring her along & toss in a Lobster dinner as
well... ;-) and so any hotel/motel deals would be kewl...
Oh, maps / points of interest would be neat, too. Other than the VCF, my
big thing is I want to tour the Sam Adams brewery... hehehe...
>I swear I'll be caught up this weekend. I was supposed to be caught up
>last weekend and now I'm sure Evan is pissed at me :(
Famous last words, eh? I've been swearing about being caught up "by this
weekend" for... hell... 15 years now. ;^> I finally got most of what I
needed to get done *last month* thru this week...
Heck, at this rate, I'll have to retire by the time I'm 40, just to have
enough time to catch up on all the stuff I need to do before I die![1]
Laterz, and thanks!
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
[1] And that's if I live to be 80... anything after that should be gravy... ;-)
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> > would be-they are very common. But they even had
> CRT
> > spares for my HP2644A (8008 based terminal-for
> > $250.00! But I (physically) rebuilt that tube
> myself.
>
>
> You mean you opened it up, replaced the
> cathode/heater (about the only
> part that failes), reassembled it, pumped it down,
> baked it out, etc?
> How? This is something I've never had the courage to
> try, and I don't
> have the necessary equipment -- yet!
>
Well, no, the problem with these CRT's is that they
have a RTV-like implosion shield between the front of
the tube and another layer of glass. Over time, the
RTV develops a mold from the edges in and the tube
looks horrible and becomes unusable. I worked up the
guts to cut between the tube and the plate with a
nichrome wire. Not recommended for the sane. I
replaced the shield with aquarium RTV at the edges.
The tube works very well now.
.
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I'm looking for Microsoft Word (Windows) version 2.0 and 4.0. Has anyone
got these in the original cartons with original media and manuals?
If so, I'm willing to pay up to $40 each. Please contact me directly at
<vcf(a)vintage.org>.
Thanks!
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Hi,
I use to run this combo with RL02 drives,
it should fit on one RL01 drive but not much
free space left over.
This was in 1981-1982, someone else setup the hardware so I
don't remember much about that, I was working on the software.
I was surprised that so much of the operating system was
implemented in BASIC :-)
Ken Rauhala +1 781 993 4626
Odd, perhaps even stupid question:
Was there ever a DOS-based VME computer?
If so, has anyone got one? Want to sell it?
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> I'm not sure how to 'read out' the contents since I've never tried,
but they're often the same SRAM/EPROM footprint. Anybody tried reading
the > contents with said EPROM programmer?
I haven't finished/tested it yet; but I was planning to use NVRAM as
pseudo EEPROMs, because no UV erasing means quicker debug turn around
time. I have mostly finished a design that would use the PC parallel
port to read/write Dallas 32kx8 NVRAMS. Only mostly because I am waiting
for my cheap ebay ZIF sockets to arrive. I am happy to share
information, so if any one wants my ideas just drop me an off list
request.
David
I have a SBC with nonvolatile RAM on it. There are
DRAM and EPROM too. I guess the nonvolatile RAM might
be used to hold some important parameters while EPROM
is used to hold program.
Since nonvolatile RAM has limited life, I wonder how
you guys deal with nonvolatile RAM in your old
computers. Reading out the content with a EPROM
programmer is a solution that jumps into my mind.
"Burn" a new nonvolatile RAM and wait for another 10
years? It seems a boring work...
vax, 3900
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is a drool-proof manual but there is a pinout buried somewhere in the
middle.
-- Adam
Hi,
I need to get rid of the following (it's not in line with what I'm
interested in and it's taking up too much space):
* Sun 4/110 with printer port and 2 SCSI ports
* Sun 4/110
* Sun Sparc Server 490 (has 3 disks in base) (big)
* 2 HP Apollo
* Symbolics 3650 (heavy)
* 2 extra color memory boards
* extra 2MW memeory board
* Monitor & keyboard
* VAX Vector 6000-520 (big)
* Sun 3/60
* 2 Sun 3/50
* 2 Sun Monochrome monitors (hey, they're monitors...heavy)
* Original IBM PC (w 2 1/2 height floppy)
* Original IBM PC (w floppy & HD)
* AT&T 3B2/EXP
* HP-UX tape set (4mm) Rev A.09.05
* HP-UX Install tape
* HP-UX Runtime 2-user
* HP-UX Runtime Support
* X.25/9000 link
* Focus for HP-UX
* HP9000 Series 700 Customized S/W
* Radio Shack TRS80 Model III (no floppies)
I want this stuff gone! The whole point of this excersise is to get rid
of this stuff so don't ask for board xyz-abc out of something. I'd
prefer pickup, but if you're not local I'm sure we can work something
out. I haven't tried powering any of this stuff so I'm not sure what
works and what doesn't.
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I took some pictures of the Millennium ICE and the Prolog M825 8085
System Analyzer.
http://www.chd.dyndns.org/ICE/
The Millennium looks like the same manufacturer Joe R. was referring to,
but a different model.
-chuck
>> Both of mine had seriously burned in CRT's; I put
in
>> new ones I got for about $40 each shipped
>Where did you get these. Have details of the swap
out?
The instructions for CRT replacement (at your own
risk, etc etc) and the ROM replacement are linked from
http://juliepalooza.8m.com/sl/adm%2D3a.htm
I got the tube(s) from:
http://www.cathoderaytubes.com
The people were very knowledgeable and helpful; the
tubes were less expensive than I thought that they
would be-they are very common. But they even had CRT
spares for my HP2644A (8008 based terminal-for
$250.00! But I (physically) rebuilt that tube myself.
The tubes were packed (not too suprisingly) very well.
You need to know the P/N and mfg of the CRT (should be
a label on it) before you call. My original tubes were
made by 2 different manufacturers and were slightly
different!
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My brother just got an apple //C, but it came without power supply..
I heard there was "cigarette lighter" adapter for the Apple IIC, Will
the
Apple IIC run on 12V? (the case says 15V 1.2Amps)
Does anyone know where we can get a power supply?
2- will ProDOS run on 5 1/4" diskette?
3- Will DOS 3.3 run on 3 1/2" disks?
cctech-request(a)classiccmp.org schrieb am 13.05.2004:
>From: "Ashley Carder" <wacarder(a)usit.net>
>To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
><cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 3:51 PM
>Subject: IDEA - Collector interest database
>
>
>Has anyone on here ever thought about putting up a site that
>documents the collector interest or areas of specialty for the
>folks who visit here?
>
>If this sounds like a good idea, I'll create a site and host it.
>
>It could have things like a "wish list", "current inventory",
>"items for trade/sale", etc.
>
>I know some of this type of thing exists elsewhere, such as
>on Sellam's VCM site, but I haven't seen a place where I can
>go to find individuals who have specific computers, parts, wants,
>etc.
>
>Other ideas and opinions are welcome. If this kind of thing
>already exists, just enlighten me as to where it is located.
>
>Ashley
Hi,
I can point you to the following drectory of retro-computing collectors in
Germany. It's very simple but has all required data in one interface.
http://dafc.rauch-grapengeter.de/ sorry, its all german, but you'll get the
idea
You will find the following data:
-Name, Email (spam-treated), Collection-focus
-Geographic position, (town + zip) handy to know who to ask if suddenly a
nice machine comes up at the other side of the country that must be
collected whitin xx days (or hours...)
-Current inventory (as far as one likes to publish it)
-Items for trade / sale, items sought after.
-Machines cross reference with some photoos
-Internal area, (passworded) there are e.g. phonenumbers and Ebay-aliasses
to avoid useless competition between collectors.
-Linklist
-contactform
http://www.geocities.com/computercollectors/index.htm
is another site, but I will never list myself there due to the open
presentation of the email-adresses, which just asks to be captured by
spam-robots.
So if you want to setup something, go head! I think it's useful. However,
you may considder to seek some cooperation with one of the big vintage
sites. Starting completely from zero off a new domain is not easey afterall.
Have a nice day,
Frank
--
Die max. Eintauchzeit von Keksen in Kaffe berechnet man so:
t = ( 4L2 * h ) / ( D * g ) L: halbe Keksdicke
h: Viskosit?t der Fl?ssigkeit D: Keks-Porengr??e
g: Oberfl?chenspannung
Now was not a good time to find that one of the disks in the fileserver
has been slowly and silently corrupting itself for the past two weeks -
it only manifested itself as a problem when the system was rebooted
earlier though :-(
9GB of data down the pan - Grrr! It was all audio data on that drive, so
yes I do have backups - on original media though. Gonna take a while to
get that all converted to digital format again!
Boy am I pissed! :-(
Jules
Fred N. van Kempen <waltje(a)pdp11.nl> wrote:
> It is the "small cabinet" version, just so you know, not the 30" wide
> thing.
Really?? So it *is* the thing I've been looking for, XMI plus possible VAXBI
in standard 19" rackmount units mounted in a rack?
Well, then again I don't have room for or ability to transport a full 19" rack
either... But if the VAX system per se is not the rack but the rackmount units
in it, is there perchance a way you could let me have those?? I want a
VAXBI/XMI machine sooooo bad! Just obtained a copy of the VAXBI spec a couple
months ago and just dying to work with some real HW. But have no room for a
rack. The best I can do is run rackmount units on the bedroom floor instead of
a rack. (What do you do when you just can't afford a real machine room? Use a
bedroom instead.)
MS
>I think you're referring to where you have to hand-install the packages for
>drives >1GB in size due to an Installer fault. There is a way to do this
>manually (because when I first built and installed 1.4.2 way back when on my
>IIci, I had to do this on the 2GB main drive), but sysinst with 1.6.2 is so
>good and so seamless that you should just jump to 1.6.2 and use the sysinst
>kernel to do the installation. It's very, very easy. Drag the MacOS-based
>Installer to the trash and fergeddaboudit.
No, there is a different piece of the inital install. I think it is for
certain Quantum drives. I've never had to use it, so I didn't pay too
much attention to when it is needed.
>If you're referring to SoftwareFPU, this only works in MacOS, and only then
>because of how Apple implements SANE.
I don't know what I'm referring to for FPU emulation. I just know I've
seen messages about it pass thru the mac68k email list. Since I don't
have any machines runing NetBSD that don't have an FPU, I've never paid
much attention.
I thought it was something on the netBSD side, but it could be a MacOS
side thing for all I know.
>There is an experimental 2.0 -msoft-float kernel and people have reported
>good success with it, but my recommendation has always been that if you can
>upgrade the machine to a full '040, just do it and use the stock kernel.
>I'd reserve -msoft-float only for machines where this is not possible, like
>the Blackbird PowerBooks, for example.
Yup, and thus why when I was tossing some broken macs with full 040
chips, I pulled the chips to swap into things like my Centris 610's and
650's. That way, I can use them for mac68k later and not have any FPU
headaches.
I'm sure I still have a chip or two kicking around, so all John has to do
is ask, and I'll be happy to send him one to swap into his 575 (if he is
still using the 575 and in fact needs one. I can't be sure that I didn't
do the swap before giving him the machine, but I don't think I did,
because I don't think I knew he was going to use it for NetBSD).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>I'm thinking there's three possibilities right now: (1) mis-configured
>swap space, (2) feeble SCSI driver + marginal SCSI drive specs,
>(3) bad memory. There could be another cause; I don't know.
>#1 seems most likely since all I've done is create the swap partition,
>no config changes were made, but the /etc/fstab at least looks OK to me.
>#2 has been hinted at by some documentation, but the disk load
>went without hiccup.
>#3 hasn't been seen within the MacOS (7.5.1) but I don't know any
>serious tests for it.
I'm certainly no BSD expert. But two issues come to mind. 1: I know there
is an alternate SCSI setup for some drives. The default one doesn't work
with all drives. I've only ever used the default and never had a problem,
so I don't know what would indicate if you need the alternate setup.
2: Could any of this be due to a lack of an FPU? I *think* the Mac I gave
you (if you are still on the same one we last talked about) I left with
an LC040 in it. (that's the stock for the 575). I know netBSD prefers an
FPU. I also know there is a software FPU patch that can be loaded to run
on machines with the LC040 chip.
I think Cameron may be able to give you better hints, he's got far more
experience then I do (and has helped me a number of times)
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Let me also add that I'll be in the Bay Area on Memorial Day weekend (attending
Conspiracy Con 2004 www.conspiracycon.com), so if the stuff is in San Jose as
I've heard mentioned and there is something that would be takable for me and
not already spoken for, then maybe I could take some. (Assuming it's something
that can be fit in the baggage space under the Greyhound bus I'll be riding,
or can be disassembled down to that size. Obviously a 19" rack wouldn't go,
but I think a rackmountable *unit* would be OK.)
MS
Found this big sale mentioned on one of my ham radio-related email lists.
Check out the pictures and prices! Condition of stuff may not be great, but
anyway . . .
Saturday May 22, 2004 from 9 AM to 2 PM
Details and map at
http://chicagotest.i8.com/BigSale.html
Saw pictured at least one HP 9825, maybe a 9810, a Topaz "Ultra Isolator",
a couple of 1611 logic analyzers, plotters, etc. along with a bunch of
other nice, juicy early radio test gear within my interest. Wonder if
there's any DEC or DG items in there nobody recognized to list or even a
Tektronix TEK 30 . . .
Wish I was nearby, dang it!
Please let us know if anybody went to the sale and give us a report.
-Chris F.
NNNN
Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian
Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net
Member of Antique Wireless Association
URL: http://www.antiquewireless.org/
Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote:
> What is a "VAX Vector"?
VAX 6400 and 6500 systems support optional vector processors implementing the
vector extensions to VAX Architecture defined in VARM 2nd ed.
I'm salivating at that machine too, but I have nowhere near the room for it.
And he said he wouldn't give just the boards. (If I had VAXBI and XMI boards,
perhaps I could find a smaller backplane / card cage unit to house them than
that huge VAX 6000 cabinet. I'm pretty sure that standard VAXBI card cages,
like used in VAX 8200, are just simple 19" rackmount units no bigger than a
high-end rackmount MicroVAX, and it is rumored that there once existed an XMI
backplane / card cage unit of this form factor as well.)
MS
> I'd love to get a Lisp Machine, but I really can't justify to myself
> either the shipping costs or the space it would take up. Fortunately
> it appears it won't get tossed, which is my other worry.
OK.. so how do I see such a machine... I can't figure out how a LISP
machine "works" , or gets programmed. Guess they're from before my
time... heeeelp !?
===
The short answer is Lisp Machines were microcoded computers optimized
for executing Lisp. There were several variants, the 'east coast' ones
developed from the MIT CADR, and the 'west coast' ones based on Xerox
D Machine. There is a lot of information on the web about them
MIT CADR
LMI Lisp Machine Symbolics LM-1 TI Explorer
LMI Lambda Symbolics 36xx TI Explorer II / MicroExplorer
Interlisp on PDP10s
Interlisp-D on Xerox 1100,1132,1108/9,1186
Xerox Lisp (Common Lisp from Lyric release through various Medley releases)
Envos (spinoff from Xerox)
Venue
Guys/Gals, I need your help. Let's put a serious whoopin' on a spammer!
I just got 7 spams from a company (more info below) and following is what I
sent to the following people in the company (all the email addresses I
could find from their website):
ElaineS(a)flagstaffuniforms.com, Jaime(a)flagstaffuniforms.com,
JerrytheB(a)flagstaffuniforms.com, FredB(a)flagstaffuniforms.com,
Artdept(a)flagstaffuniforms.com, RonT(a)flagstaffuniforms.com,
richs(a)flagstaffuniforms.com,
The main offender is: richs(a)flagstaffuniforms.com
So I sent this in response (original spam attached):
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Looketyhere, people!
I'm a lifetime geek (almost 20 years), and my wife runs an in-home daycare.
Why in Deity's Name would I need hospital scrubs?
How in the Hades can you say that you're anti-spam when I have absolutely
no need for your product and *did not* sign up for your service? I received
not one, not two, but *7* of these pieces of crap from your company.
Believe me, I will tell all of the medical professionals I know to make
sure they do *not* use your company.
Please do not use the mailing list you received/purchased ever again... or
else.
Regards,
Roger Merchberger
P.S. Here's your filth back to you.
>To: Subscribers
>FROM: "richard schwerdtmann"<richs(a)flagstaffuniforms.com>
>Importance: Normal
>Sensitivity: Normal
>Subject: Special of the Month
>Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:53:12 -0400
>Sender:
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>wish to be removed from our mailing list, please send an email with REMOVE
>in the subject line to richs(a)flagstaffuniforms.com
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After that, the guy sent me this:
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Return-Path: <richs(a)flagstaffuniforms.com>
Delivered-To: z(a)30below.com
Received: (qmail 1840 invoked by uid 0); 19 May 2004 18:56:34 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO mail.flagstaffuniforms.com) (65.174.169.64)
by 0 with SMTP; 19 May 2004 18:56:34 -0000
Received: from richflag [65.174.169.41] by mail.flagstaffuniforms.com with
ESMTP
(SMTPD32-7.10) id ABBE10100C2; Wed, 19 May 2004 14:47:26 -0400
Message-ID: <000c01c43dd4$40b96730$170aa8c0(a)flagstaff.local>
Reply-To: "richard schwerdtmann" <richs(a)flagstaffuniforms.com>
From: "richard schwerdtmann" <richs(a)flagstaffuniforms.com>
To: "Roger Merchberger" <z(a)30below.com>
Subject: Re: Special of the Month
Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 15:05:27 -0400
Organization: Flagstaff Ind.
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409
One word........... Remove ....... it works just like everyone else in the
world does. We have many daycare employees who where scrubsets it is very
common. But some people live with there head in the sand I guess.
I WILL OF COUSE REMOVE YOU FROM OUR MAILING LIST
Thank you for your understanding in this little matter
Richard Schwerdtmann
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*Then* I got 3 more spams!!!
I'd like to get everyone I can to send a few (say... 10, like I got, but
more is good, too!) mails to all the fine folks at Flagstaff Uniforms...
Thanks one and all!
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
--
Roger "Merch" Merchberger | "Profile, don't speculate."
sysadmin, Iceberg Computers | Daniel J. Bernstein
zmerch(a)30below.com |
In a message dated Tue, 18 May 2004 21:41:13 -0700 (PDT)
Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> writes:
>
> $20 each is fair. A little less ($10-$15) if they are in
> crap condition,
> a little more ($25) if they are in great condition.
>
No offense Sellam, but I would say that they are worth about double those figures, for east coast values. I recently sold one in good condition for about $50 or $60 I think. Best, David, classiccomputing.com
>Hello,
>If you are still interested, I have a total of 11 compatible tapes (8
>Teac CT-600N and 3 Maxell CS-600XD). All are used and have used labels.
> As far as I know, they all still work. (I still have the tape drive as
>well, but have no longer an operating Apple system, so I cannot check
>these).
>
>If you are interested, please let me know.
I assume this was meant for me since I was looking for these tapes a long
while back, so I'll respond.
Nope, I'm no longer interested. I've gotten rid of the drive, and the few
tapes I had (which didn't work with my drive anyway), have been sent on
to someone else that could use them.
Thanks anyway.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Hello all,
I sure hope someone from this group can make it there Saturday and pick
up some of these machines. I wish I could, but I'm a couple of thousand
miles away...
I'm very (and I mean *very*) interested in that HP 9820/21 (hint, hint).
Regards,
Stan
>Scanning thru a newsgroup, I happened on this:
>http://chicagotest.i8.com/BigSale.html
>If you look at the pictures, there are several HP desktop
calc/computers
>underneath alll that other Stuff...
>website says most everything will be in the $10 - 30 range - this
coming
>Saturday, the 22nd.
>
>Might be some Rescue Opportunities
>
>Cheers
>John
Hi,
I saw on a news group posting that you owned the book
"How to build a working digital computer" by Edward Alcosser.
Would you be interested in selling this book? I would also pay top dollar
for a photocopy of the book.
Thank you for your time,
- Chris Lind
>That depends on which DEC world you circulated in... there's been a termcap
>entry for the ADM 3A in UNIX for as far back as my experience goes.
>
>I don't recall seeing them at all in non-university or non-UNIX settings,
>though. DEC terminals cost enough that in the notoriously cheap educational
>market, people gave serious consideration to other forms of terminals (I
>have reciepts from the early-to-mid-1980s for VT100s at around $1,700 each,
>which is why Software Results had a mix of DEC terminals and CiTOH terminals,
>'101's and '101e's).
The ADM3 did not perform cursor addressing, which the ADM3A did, making the 3A
much more useful in many applications - I don't think there would be a termcap
entry for a 3.
Btw, on the off chance that these are 3A's, I'll mention that I have detailed
photos of one, as well as PDF's of both the operators and service manuals posted
on my web site: http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html
Look under the "Altair 8800" entry (I use a 3A on the Altair).
Regards,
Dave
--
dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield
dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com
com Vintage computing equipment collector.
http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html
82928A System monitor:
Provides the necessary hardware to aid in developing and debugging
assembly language programs for HP Series 80 Personal Computers. The HP
00085-15007 (or 00087-15007), 82928A and 82929A form a complete set of
tools.
The 82928A System monitor is described in the HP85 Assembler ROM
manual. This manual is currently available on the MoHPC CDROM
(http://www.hpmuseum.org) collection (if you are interested in the 85
then purchasing the MpHPC collection should be a priority as it also
contains the 85 service manual).
Somebody has promised me a scan of the 85 assembler manual, so it
should appear shortly in the www.series80.org site as well.
Last but certainly not least is John Shadbolt's site
(http://www.vintagecomputers.freeserve.co.uk/hp80)
**vp
>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com>
>
>On Wed, 19 May 2004, John Allain wrote:
>
>> > Some folks have an idea that these things are scarce,
>> > which they aren't.
>>
>> Just as a supporting argument you might want to list two or
>> three places where a person could go and get one of these.
>
>eBay, VCM, my warehouse ;)
>
Hi
I'd be more interested in getting a Beehive terminal.
Intel blue would be nice.
Dwight
Hello, all:
While browsing an early-1980 issue of Compute magazine, I saw a blurb for Rockwell offering copies of the manufacturing test program for the AIM 65 computer. The blurb references a test manual (#EA74-M800) and a test program listing (#EA74-J100). It also indicates that on the manufacturing line, two EPROMs with the test program are installed in the BASIC ROM slots.
Does anyone have either manual or the ROMs in question?
Thanks.
Rich
My father has 10 or 12 of these terminals that he has no need for. I'm not familiar with them, would they be of interest to anybody or should I tell him to just scrap them?
PLEASE CONTACT ME REGARDING THESE TAPES IF YOU STILL HAVE THEM.
Hello,
If you are still interested, I have a total of 11 compatible tapes (8
Teac CT-600N and 3 Maxell CS-600XD). All are used and have used labels.
As far as I know, they all still work. (I still have the tape drive as
well, but have no longer an operating Apple system, so I cannot check
these).
If you are interested, please let me know.
romboc
Hi.
All this talk about frontpanel emulators...
So I have this (mostly) working PDP-11/34, my one and only UniBus
machine. It came with a RK07 drive. But the system was stored under bad
conditions for years. There is rust and corrosion _everywhere_. The
machine works so far but the drive is quite rotten. I have no other
UniBus disk drive interfaces so I need either a new RK07 (unlikely) or
a replacement for the entire conroler / drive combination or:
What about a RK07 drive emulating hardware?
A microcontroler with some TTLs to interface to the RK611 controler on
one side and a compact FLASH card on the other. Maybe cache RAM in front
of the FLASH to reduce write cycles to the FLASH. 32 MB is enough for a
RK07 disk, even if the emulator stores raw data including all sector
headers / trailers.
Problem: Exact and detaild specs of the RK611 <=> RK0[67] interface.
I found some hints in the "RK06/RK07 Disk Drive User's Manual" but not
enough to build a new drive from scratch. Any pointers?
--
tsch??,
Jochen
Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/
I just finished adding some pictures of the core memory boards from the
UYK-20 to my website at <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/UYK-20/>. This
<http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/UYK-20/back.jpg> is a picture of the back of
one memory card with a 3.5" floppy disk laying on it for size comparision.
This <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/UYK-20/top.jpg> is a picture of the top.
The core is under the green cover. Here is a close-up of the Sperry Univac
logo on the memory board. And finally, here
<http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/UYK-20/core.jpg> is a picture of the core
itself. You can get an idea of the size of the core area in comparision
with the 3.5" floppy disk in the LH edge of the picture. The green over
comes off very easily. Just remove four screws and it slides off.
Lyle Bickley send me a couple of PDF files about the UYK-20 and I've
posted them on the same webpage.
Joe
Scanning thru a newsgroup, I happened on this:
http://chicagotest.i8.com/BigSale.html
If you look at the pictures, there are several HP desktop calc/computers
underneath alll that other Stuff...
website says most everything will be in the $10 - 30 range - this coming
Saturday, the 22nd.
Might be some Rescue Opportunities
Cheers
John
I think Beehives are much more rarer than ADMs of any kind.
Beehives were highly sought after by my scrapper as they had an aluminum case
and good cards. He actively sought out Beehives as one of the best terminals
to scrap along with the early Sorocs and went out of his way to search them
out. As a result there are few Intel ones in PDX.
ADMs survived by having very poor scrap values and high disposal costs for
the plastic case.
Paxton
Astoria, OR
These terminals are very nice; I have a brown one and
a blue one. One part that always breaks or is missing
is the flap on the front for the DIP switches. I made
aluminum plates to fit in the recess.
Both of mine had seriously burned in CRT's; I put in
new ones I got for about $40 each shipped (I hate this
kind of work, but I did it) and now they look and feel
new. I opted for B/W for "originality", although I
could have gotten green phosphor at the same price.
One didn't have the lower case option; the chip for
lower case is hard to find. So I copied the ROM out of
the ADM-3 with lower case (2kx8, strange voltages and
pinouts, a 2513-type ROM), blew a 2716, and made a
little adapter to plug into the other ADM-3's 2513
socket. This, two 2102-1 RAMs, and a few flips of dip
switches gave me lower case! Absolutely hideous
matrix, but very authentic!
=====
-Steve Loboyko
Incredible wisdom actually found in a commerical fortune cookie:
"When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day."
Website: http://juliepalooza.8m.com/sl
__________________________________
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Hi
I usually make copies on two diferent media. I make
a copy on another similar device and also a 3.5 floppy.
I keep these with the unit.
Have you played with the SBC any? What kind is it?
These are always interesting to collect because of the
chalenges of locating software and documentation for them.
I've been known to connect up a switch panel to a uP
socket and use this to determine the addresses of ports
and memory. I did this on a 80C186 machine and implemented
a Forth on it so that I could play with it.
Development boards are also fun to play with. I have
a few of these.
Later
Dwight
>From: "SHAUN RIPLEY" <vax3900(a)yahoo.com>
>
>I have a SBC with nonvolatile RAM on it. There are
>DRAM and EPROM too. I guess the nonvolatile RAM might
>be used to hold some important parameters while EPROM
>is used to hold program.
>
>Since nonvolatile RAM has limited life, I wonder how
>you guys deal with nonvolatile RAM in your old
>computers. Reading out the content with a EPROM
>programmer is a solution that jumps into my mind.
>"Burn" a new nonvolatile RAM and wait for another 10
>years? It seems a boring work...
>
>vax, 3900
>
>
>
>
>__________________________________
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>
>While digging around in the basement last night I found my old Nintendo
>GameBoy, with a 1999 manufacture date. That makes it 15 years old.
>Does this now make it a classic?
>
>The interesting thing is that the old 1999 GameBoy games will play in
>my six year old's brand new 2004 Gameboy Advanced SP.
Shall we presume you meant 1989, or are you counting in a different base?
1999 - 2004 is 5 years, not 15.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>From: "Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com>
>
> I've added some more pictures to my website. The first ones are of one
>of the UYK-20 computers. These were made by Sperry Rand and are militry
>versions of the Univac and use core memory.
><http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/UYK-20/>. The other pictures
---snip---
Hi Joe
Does anyone know what processor model was used for these?
It would be great to power one of these up and actually
program one. It looks like a 16 bit machine.
Dwight
I've added some more pictures to my website. The first ones are of one
of the UYK-20 computers. These were made by Sperry Rand and are militry
versions of the Univac and use core memory.
<http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/UYK-20/>. The other pictures
<http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/millennium/> are of the Millennium
microproccessor tester that was discussed here a few weeks ago. I took
these pictures in a hurry and they aren't real good, particularly the ones
of the Millennium. It was in the back of a dark warehouse and the pictures
show it. One item of interest on the Millennium is the pullout drawer on
the side. It has the CPU and all of the CPU spcific items on it. In other
words, you can change it from an 8080 system to a 6800 system by merely
changeing that drawer. I have two of these and IIRC one is 6800 and the
other is 8080 based.
Joe
I just noticed I have an Altos 686 (without a cover) PC in my stack of 'old computer stuff'. It's s model 25A with one 5 1/4 inch floppy drive and a Seagate ST225 hard drive. Is this one of Altos computers that people are interested in or something that needs to be scrapped? Thanks for any help you can give me.
Bill Machacek
Another item that will be leaving my collection (mostly because I never
did anything with it) is a DECmate II - the micro version of the PDP-8
(Intersil 6120 based, I think). A couple of questions, as I would like to
test the thing out before I offer it to anyone.
1) Whay kind of video is "video"? Some sort of odd tube? Whatever it is, I
don't have it so I am hoping the box supports a dumb terminal.
2) Will I boot this up from a dumb terminal (VT100, my guess)? What are
the specifics?
This machine is in decent condition, with an RX50 and a hard disk of some
sort. I have no manuals.
William Donzelli
aw288(a)osfn.org
Hi All,
Another good haul at the auction today: one HP J2240 (dual cpu) and a J210XC.
another cypher 9-track and 4 Boxes of still-in-the-wrapper sun os manuals:
(2) 4.0 System Admin Manuals Minibox 825-1048-10 (these are in the original
mini-box. still shrinkwrapped) Circa 1988
contents:
Sun OS 4.0 Change Notes
Installing GunOS
System and Network admin
Security Features Guide
Prom Users manual
Sun System Diagnostics Manual
Also two boxes:
Sun Reference Manuals
including Assembly Language Reference for Sun-2 and Sun-3
Sun Programmers Manuals
The last two boxes include some fairly thick reference Manuals most still
shrinkwrapped
I's like to give the Sun Manuals free to a good home, preferably to someone
who collects Sun OS stuff or who make the info in these manuals available over
the web, copyrights, of course, maintained. If not than anyone who needs them.
If multiple requests: first come first served, or make me an offer I can't
refuse. You pay shipping usps media mail.
Cheers
Tom
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<< I recently sold one in good condition for about $50 or $60 I think. >.
Oops, I sold an ADM 5 on vintage.org marketplace for $79. That was in mid-February. I guess these are worth more for the lower case text? Best, classiccomputing.com
Hello,
This weekend I picked up a Hewlett-Packard 82928A System Monitor,
which is a plug-in module for the HP 85 desktop computer. I have
the box, the cartridge and a two-page "Installation Sheet", but no manual.
Does anyone have a manual for this module?
Cheers,
Dan
www.decodesystems.com/wanted.html
See my other post about the Ultra 1 I found. (I think it's a couple of
years too new to be on-topic - sorry!)
I put the pair of memory sticks in there which I got in the same day and
tried powering the machine up using a terminal as the console.
Amazingly, it's alive!
At the moment it's set to boot from the network - any idea how I can
interrupt that and get into the boot monitor in order to switch that
off? I think there's some key combination to do it from a keyboard, but
of course I don't have one handy at the moment - just the console.
There's a clear perspex bracket above the CPU for holding a fan, but no
fan. As this machine had been stripped before I got it, I don't know if
it should have one and someone had taken it out. The CPU has a large
finned heatsink on it - on the web I saw a vague report that Sun may
have stopped putting fans in the machines on later ones and just used a
larger heatsink. Any ideas?
Finally, any clue as to whether the Apple SCSI CDROM I got will work in
the Ultra? It's a 1993 vintage drive, an "AppleCD 300 Plus". If not, I
do have a SCSI drive that'll do both 512 and 2048 block sizes, but it's
in a running machine at the moment...
No idea why this machine was thrown out. It seems to work so far. Maybe
it has an intermittant fault when it's been running for a while, or
maybe the network interface is dead (according to console messages it
notices when a cable's present or not though).
cheers
Jules
On May 18, 7:37, Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
> And it must also be remembered that these folks did this when it was
> economically feasible to spend a day or two tracking down and
repairing a
> problem. Business is time, and time is money, so as technology
evolved
> and came down in price, it became more practical to just swap boards
(both
> for the user and the supplier).
>
> Sometimes we lose a sense of the more pragmatic aspects of tech work.
If
> your business is halted because a computer system is down, would you
> rather your tech take a few hours or a day or two to track down and
fix a
> problem, or would you rather they swap a few boards in an hour or so
until
> they find the problem?
It's also worth pointing out that by the '80s, some of the boards
required diagnostics and equipment that it wasn't practical for every
field service guy to carry. A lot of companies did as the one I worked
for: field service engineers were trained (quite carefully) to pin a
problem down to a board, replace that, and send the faulty one to their
central workshop (ours was in Stoke) where it would be repaired and
tested. There's nothing wrong with swapping a board providing you know
which to swap (implying "why", at some level) and the faulty one gets
fixed (assuming it's economic).
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
Remembered to bring the details ...
The ROM board is marked ..
"5419803 5019802-01 A1" and "ROM DWT CARD"
.. and holds 14 27C010 1Mb EPROMs. The back has a label
saying "VT1000 2.2" I can use these EPROMs so if no one
needs them or the contents they'll be recycled next week.
The RAM card is marked ..
"5019806" and "5419807"
.. and has one 1MB SIMM marked ..
"5419805"
.. I have no use for this at all.
Cheers,
Lee.
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Begin forwarded message:
> From: Ron Hudson <ron.hudson(a)sbcglobal.net>
> Date: May 18, 2004 2:48:45 PM PDT
> To: Classic Computers <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> Subject: wtb: Apple //C power supply
>
>
> Want an apple IIC power supply $10.00 plus shipping
> to 95127.
>
> Contact: jh1960(a)pacbell.net
>
>
P.S. Please put "Apple Power Supply in Subject"
Thanks.
I acquired a PDP 11/23 this weekend. It runs RT-11, which boots fine from either the RL01 or RX01s. Has anyone ever attempted to run RSTS/E on an 11/23? I was thinking about attempting to SYSGEN RSTS/E v7.0 on this machine, but in looking over some info on RSTS/E, it does not list the 11/23 as one of the systems that RSTS/E will run on.
Ashley
Well, amazingly, I'm still alive after my trip to the Dayton Hamvention... ;-)
Got down there Friday nite, so I didn't get any chance to peruse the
flea-market booths then (which is when I'm told most of the classic schtuff
is available...)
on Saturday, it rained like a ... Well, a lot. It didn't ease off until
about 1600hrs, when I finally figured I'd "venture out into the
wilderness", so most vendors were still wrapped up prolly figuring the
entire day was a lost cause & went to drown their sorrows. I did see a
Heathkit EPROM burner (4800? methinks) - guy wanted $50 but "might" take
$40. I told him I'd think about it, it was gone Sunday. (It did have the
personality modules up to a 27256.) Dunno if it was a good buy or not. That
was all I saw for classic gear (other than PeeCees that were 10+ years old,
I'm not counting that due to the boredom associated with said particular
platform. ;-) [1]
Sunday was nicer, overcast but warmer & no rain, so it was a good day to do
some exploring, and all I saw was a TI-44/9a with 1 cart for $20, an
unpriced Apple //e, and some unpriced assorted Suns. Altho I'm not "the
most worldly wize d00d on the planet" I do know that most of the time, if
it's unmarked, the price doubles when you ask. I generally don't waste my
time or theirs. ;-)
Nothing Tandy-ish, let alone Model 10x/200 which is what I was hoping
for... :-(
As a lead-in to another thread, tho, I did pick up a soldering station &
desoldering gun. For $100 I got a Hakko 939 soldering station w/1 tip (it's
fine for medium work, but for some fine circuitry I'd want a finer tip),
photocopied manual, and key (yes, you need a small "punch-card" key to
change the temperature & the configuration... each tip has a "temperature
coefficient" that you key into the station, to keep an exact temperature,
AFAICT)...
Anyone else have any experience with this brand/model of soldering station?
The cheapest I'd found on ePay (tho I didn't search completed auctions yet)
was $150, and it looks like they still make 'em for about $400, so I think
I did OK...
I also snagged a $65 Soder-Wick SC-5000 desoldering gun. My only concern is
that the guy told me the filters are no longer being produced for this
model (he had the SC-7000, but I didn't have the $475 required to purchase
the rascal). I've already googled around a bit for this model, and I got 1
website: His. The filter on it right now is "nearly new" and he stated that
it would take me a long time to wear that filter out, but I'm still
concerned about finding replacements. Anyone know or use this model?
Oh, and I did find an AUI transceiver for my Vaxstation so when I have the
room to set that up again... Externally powered (never seen one of those
before) w/wallwart, $3. Not too bad... ;-)
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
[1] and there were a *lot* of them. Anything from a '386 & up could be had
for anywhere from super-cheap to "what the hell are you smoking" prices.
Sad, really...
--
Roger "Merch" Merchberger | JC: "Like those people in Celeronville!"
sysadmin, Iceberg Computers | Me: "Don't you mean Silicon Valley???"
zmerch(a)30below.com | JC: "Yea, that's the place!"
| JC == Jeremy Christian
Hi all!
While attempting to get some organization back into one of my
study rooms (the one where all my DEC docs and media are), I
again ran into the problem of organizing my collection of the
wellknown "Handbook" series of DEC publications.
I have many, but after sorting them out, and taking out the
dupes (which *are* available for trade, by the way) I noticed
some volumes were clearly missing in series where they had
multiple-volume issues.
So, is there (from DEC, or collected by us) some sort of
"master list" of which handbooks were published by DEC?
This would help me a lot in finding the ones I am missing,
or think I am missing...
Thankee,
Fred
--
Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist
Visit the VAXlab Project at http://VAXlab.pdp11.nl/
Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/
Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Mountain View, CA, USA
You could also check my list... I have a somewhat
large collection of dec handbooks. At one point while
working for DEC, I got myself on an automatic distribution
list to receive a copy of all new handbooks as they came
out... I was on it for a few years before they stopped
doing it.
Anyway, check out
http://world.std.com/~mbg/dec_handbooks.html
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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Surplus and pulls from a 'minicomputer repair shop'...
"Memory, logic, drivers, baud rate generators, and much more
includes 7400 series 2516's 2716's 4116's 2116's com 5016's
includes large bag of assorted chips from a minicomputer repair shop
)1980's)"
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4663&item=3816263323…
Items are in New York. If they were in Old York, the shippin'd kill ya.
This does not apply to Midlands blokes.
Cheeerz
John
The following turned up yesterday from a couple of skips:
Two Acorn 420/1 machines, one with an ST506 drive and the other with
an IDE drive and interface. One has an Ethernet board fitted. Both seem
to have some sort of CPU upgrade fitted to them.
An Acorn A5000, with a board called a "Colourcard" in it - I assume
it's some sort of video board with a better spec than the standard video
output?
I got keyboards and mice for all three machines, which was nice. Also
found two seperate Ethernet cards, a whole slew of RiscOS ROMs in a box,
Artworks software and a pile of Artworks dongles. Oh, and a collection
of the rear panel blanking plates (I'm actually missing those from some
of my Acorns, so they'll come in handy :-)
I also came away with Sun Sparc 4 (gutted though), a Sun Sparc 10
(memory and CPU board fitted, no hard disk), and a Sun Ultra 1 (also
gutted).
Couple of Mac LC III's were in the haul too, a couple of Apple Ethernet
boards, an Apple SCSI CDROM drive, plus misc. bits - a 760MB full-height
SCSI drive, several small-capacity IDE drives, couple of sticks of Sun
memory, couple of RS232 gender changers etc.
I passed on the huge Apple Quadra tower that was in the skip, and the
numerous PCs that were in there... :)
Not a bad haul for free though.
cheers
Jules
Found in the bin this weekend at Drayton Manor Radio Rally.
One EPROM board with 12 27C010 EPROMs and a label on the back
saying "VT1000 2.2".
One SIMM carrier board with three 64 pin SIMM slots, one
populated with a 1MB SIMM.
Are these any use to anyone? I can dump the EPROM contents
if needed.
I did make a note of the DEC part numbers but left it at
home (doh!).
Cheers,
Lee.
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>I don't think it was *that* good. I'm certain it was only three numbers,
>not four. It could well have been a 950 - given the dusty dirty skip it
>was lying it it's not impossible to believe that dirt made the 5 look
>like a 6 :-)
What may be tell tale is, did you actually see the name Quadra on it (I
came in late, so I responded before without realizing you called it a
Quadra). If so, then it is not a 9600. A large tower with Quadra on the
name plate would be a 900 or 950 (there were no 96x in the Quadra line,
although there were some 6xx, but no 69x and the 6 series were all
desktop cases, not towers). Slightly smaller tower would be the 8xx series
A Q950 still isn't a bad machine, but not as big of a deal to abondon (I
have a WorkGroup Server 95 which is the Quadra 950 with a different
software package).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>> Heh - I don't really know Macs at all. I have '960' stuck in my head,
>> but I had a quick look on lowendmac.com and didn't see that listed - I
>> swear there was a 9 and a 6 in there (I don't think 690 was listed
>> either, so who knows!).
UGH... go back and get it.
You probably left behind a PowerMac 9600! DAMN good Macs. Fully
upgradable to a G4 processor, and it has 6 PCI slots (last Mac to have 6
slots, and one of the few to ever have that many). They sell used for
$100 with stock processors (200-350 MHz IIRC).
Grab it, buy a $100 G3 or G4 processor upgrade, and have a 6 slot OS X
runnable Mac (OS X requires the patch from XLR8 to install, but it will
work once installed).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
\begin opinion
Seems like the best method for very long term storage in theory is ion
beam on iridium disk
More practical methods include the following:
I have also heard that using archival quality ink in a retrofitted ink
jet printer printed on acid-free paper may work for reasonable amounts
of time. The plastic ink particles in laser toner are very susceptible
to environmental factors.
I know that for land surveys that archival ink using a pen plotter on
vellum is "best".
\end opinion
References
http://www.uky.edu/~kiernan/DL/hedstrom.html
Digital preservation: a time bomb for Digital Libraries.
www.tims-im.ca/Whitepapers/22010v052p.pdf
Preserving Information Forever and a Call for Emulators.
Archives: Preserving Bits, Formats, Documents, and Wisdom
www.berghell.com/
whitepapers/Archives%20-%20Preserving%20Bits,%20Formats,%20Documents,%20
and%20Wisdom.pdf -
Mike
At 02:05 PM 5/17/04 -0400, you wrote:
>> 63/37 is the optimal tin/lead alloy; its melting point is a little
>> lower than 60/40 alloy.
>
>I thought the reason 63/37 (or whatever the precise ratio is - I think
>it's something like 63.7/36.3, no?) was preferred was that it had a
>melting _point_ rather than a melting _range_. (Whether this is tied
>to its being the eutectic mixture is something I'm not enough of an
>alloy scientist to know.)
63/37 has the lowest melting point and the lowest or close to lowest
"plastic" range. The Lyman books on bullet casting have some good
explanations and charts on this.
Joe
On May 17, 17:57, Fred N. van Kempen wrote:
> On Mon, 17 May 2004, emanuel stiebler wrote:
>
> > Both 11/23 and the 11/23+ have 22-bit addresses. Only very early
> > revisions of the 11/23 board had 18 bit.
> Oh! I learn something every day! I'll check my boards, dunno
> whether I have new ones. I do have old ones, since they're Q18.
Original 11/23 *backplanes* are 18-bit, though they can be rewired to
be 22-bit. AFAIR, the only 18-bit 11/23 CPU was the Rev.A KDF11-A (the
first dual-height one).
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York
I have an IBM AT with all original docs and keyboard, in like-new condition from the original owner. It can be yours for the price of shipping. Note that it has an upgrade VGA video card in place of the usual mono or CGA/EGA card, and that it currently will not boot from the hard drive (which is why he finally upgraded to a PC made in the last 20 years). A 14" VGA monitor, IBM ProPrinter, and Okidata 320 printer are also available as part of the bundle. E-mail if you have questions or want the thing. Note that I ship via Mailboxes Etc. so be prepared to pay their packing/shipping rates or arrange to pick it up.
There are many areas of "collectors" that can't give up any parts of
their collections.
My grandfather had an old corn crib that was full of partial parts and
containers of stuff from the orchard and farm. There were tractor
parts, mower parts, sprayer parts, wagon parts, and picking bags. You
could not just drive to the store for a part when something failed.
After he died I looked through it, saved some unique items and it was an
education of how farming used to be versus what it is today. I don't
think he thought he was a collector just a farmer.
Currently I have neighbors who are sailors and their back lots are a
collection of boat parts. I have seen more hasty repairs from the
collections. The local community would like to clean up "junk" however
one person's junk is another's treasure. It's probably related to
availability, if you have a broken boat and need a part then the closest
part is the best.
Then there are the car people! I don't know enough to comment.
You have never seen stuff until you meet some "horse people", they have
more tack, ribbons and stuff than most.
I'm the computer person. The nice thing about computers is they don't
eat, and need veterinarians.
This weekend is a general community cleanup and I'm keeping my eyes open
for any neat computer stuff. Last year I got an HP 7550 pen plotter
>from the dumpster. Of course I will have to negotiate with my wife.
Mike
Looks like the Ultra doesn't need any more attention to convince me it's
working, so I just tried the Sparc 10. The fans spin, and I'm getting
good +5 and +12V on the hard disk power connector, but no power LED and
no console activity.
I notice that (apart from the pin nearest the PSU, which is at +5V), all
the other pins along the frontmost row of the PSU connector register no
voltage, which *could* be a problem. Anyone have the proper pinout
handy?
(At least this machine's on topic :-)
cheers
Jules