- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by sml49＠comcast.net

On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 Jim Isbell <millenniumfalcon(a)cableone.net> wrote: > Subject: Salvaging HP Laser Jet series II > I saved anything that had a wire connected to it and put all the > plastic, sheet metal and gear trains into the trash on the theory that > the gear trains looked tough enough to not be a failure point. Those machines have Canon engines that are really long-lived; I have an Apple LaserWriter Iig (originally a Iint) which has the same mechanism and it's been running (admittedly in light use lately) since October 1989. I wonder if anyone on the list has any kind of teardown instructions or lubrication instructions for these machines - mine sounds as if it can use a greasing when it's feeding paper - not a screeching sound but is sounds as if something's running dry in there. It's never been taken apart and Apple's hardbound book on the LW II doesn't give this kind of information. I'd hate to slop the wrong lube in the wrong place and damage this old workhorse as it enters its 16th year of service. Seth Lewin

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ultrix 4.5 vax

by rachael＠rachael.dyndns.org

Hello My vaxserver 3100 has been installed with ultrix 4.5, I get alot better along with a unix than with vms, I was wondering if someone has keeped a copy of the different security updates from DEC ? I know the freeware archive at ftp.eagle.y.se , and I have installed the different interessing things from there. I graped the gnu things there and got unmbasic compiled, its not vaxbasic but is basic, actual not that slow either. Did a small inventory the other day, my commodore machines are staring to take up abit of space, had 13 64 machines of different types, and a 1541 or 1541II for every one of the. just needs to figure out a way to cluster them through IEC :) Maybe Cameron Kaiser can help here. regards Jacob Dahl Pind -- CBM, Amiga,Vintage hardware collector Email: rachael(a)rachael.dyndns.org url: http://rachael.dyndns.org fido: 2:237/38.8

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international order........... (fwd)

by vcf＠siconic.com

By the way, for proper context, here's the original message thread from my "customer". I have no idea where he saw that I have Commodore or Okidata printers. But you do realize this does make it on topic, since those are very vintage! :) P.S. I MapQuested that address and it exists apparently. Can someone from that area sanity check it? I wonder what's there... -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:46:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> To: mark green <greensupplier(a)yahoo.com> Cc: utl(a)rivne.com Subject: Re: international order........... On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, mark green wrote: > good day sir/ms > hi my name is green i am a business man, i live in usa i have a store in canada and uk, i purchase and sell goods from one store to another store. but for security purpose this is my address 27 East 158th Place > South Holland, illinois, > USA , 60473 > so there is a new store i wanted to set up in nigeria and i will like to place an order form your store to that store in nigeria. > but i want you to some straigth i don't live in nigeria because some people don't want to ship to that country fir some reason and i don't know why but for me i like the country > because i make a lot of profit there and idon't realy stay there i due go and come back for business i am a wihte man that love black people, > so i will like to know if you accept credit card for your payment and if you can ship to the country. > my couirer service that use is via, > dhl > fedex > so iwill place my order immidately you recieve you reply > regards > green Yes. Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 13:32:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> To: mark green <greensupplier(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: ITEMS LIST............ On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, mark green wrote: > hello > thank you for the reply,so i can now make my order pls see the goods below: > 1, > Commodore Business Machines 1526 Printer > QTY:5 > 2, > Okidata Okimate 20 > QTY:5 > so you can cacu;ate the total cost of the goods so that can make the payment I only have Okidata 21 models. They are 1 better than the model 20. Is this OK? My price is $37.62 each. For the 1526 printer, I have 7 in stock. $39.95 each. If you buy all 7 I'll give you a better price. Do you need extra dwibbles? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Don Maslin

by fmc＠reanimators.org

Yet another e-mail virus forged my address on an e-mail to his address, and it bounced to me with something like "mailbox full". Which made me think, I haven't seen anything from him since 10 August or so, and while I've never met him I think he's an old-timer.... A Google search on 'Maslin "San Diego"' found <http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040910/news_1m10obitkp.html> which says: DONALD A. MASLIN Nov. 2, 1927-Aug. 28, 2004 Donald A. Maslin, 76, of La Jolla died Aug. 28. He was born in New Haven, Conn., and was a combat systems department head for the Navy. He served in the Coast Guard and was a member of the San Diego Computer Society. Survivors include his wife, Bristol; and sister, Margaret Stadtler of Versailles, Ky. No services were planned. A scattering of ashes was planned. Arrangements: Telophase Cremation Society. (end quote) -Frank McConnell

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Yahoo! News Story - Floppy Disk Becoming Relic of the Past (fwd)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 21 2004, 13:44, John Foust wrote: > At 01:02 PM 9/21/2004, Pete Turnbull wrote: > >Readers I've seen use the standard drivers -- W2K and WinXP recognise > >them. The little cheap 6-in-one/7-in-one/8-in-one card readers just > >appear as multiple USB storage devices, like DOS disks (as do USB > >"pens"). I got mine here for about five quid. > > I must be thinking about Win98 machines that needed the drivers. Probably. I remember it was fun trying to get those things to work with W95 (for certain values of "fun"). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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computer flooring (fwd)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 21 2004, 12:58, McFadden, Mike wrote: > Offering a bribe; I'll throw in some of my wife's homemade chocolate > chip cookies for the right deal. She will be glad to make them if the > tiles disappear. LOL! My wife would be very glad to see the some of the stuff *on* the tiles disappear! -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Mine's smaller than yours (Re: rewriting legacy OS for new iron)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 16 2004, 17:40, Greg Ewing wrote: > Ron Hudson <ron.hudson(a)sbcglobal.net>: > > > I wish I had some DEC hardware, what's the physically smallest PDP11 > > one could find? > > I have an SBC-11 system consisting of a power supply and > 4-slot backplane that's about the size of a couple of > lunch boxes. > > Can anyone beat that? I can't (smallest 11 I have is an 11/03 with MXV11 and a Baydel floppy controller in an H9273 with an ex-PC PSU), but I once wanted to put together a system to control some other device that had serial ports, and the easiest way seemed to be to use an 11/03 or 11/23 processor and an MXV11. I got as far as setting aside a dual-height processor, an MXV11, and a PSU, and obtaining a set of DEC connectors to build a 2x2 backplane, but it never got assembled. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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computer flooring (fwd)

by vcf＠siconic.com

Is anyone interested in computer flooring? See below. I don't believe I know this guy...or it might be the same guy I was dealing with a couple years ago when I was actively searching for this stuff. Reply-to: Bill Hepburn <bburn(a)iquest.net> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 14:15:44 -0700 From: Bill Hepburn <bburn(a)iquest.net> To: vcf(a)vintage.org Subject: computer flooring We liquidate industry and just ran across about 4000 panels of computer flooring. They are 2'x2' and we are asking $4.00 each. mail me back if you still have an interest -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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ITEMS LIST............ (fwd)

by vcf＠siconic.com

I did a BCC of the message below to the list but it didn't go through for some reason. I wonder why not? Anyway, this is the last message I sent to my "customer". I'm anxiously awaiting his reply. I can't wait to get behind the wheels of that Lamborghini with my personal escort after a refreshing milk bath. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:01:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> To: mark green <greensupplier(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: ITEMS LIST............ On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, mark green wrote: > hello > thank you for the reply i we like to ship in 3 day plaese caculate > the shipping cost to this address > 40 bello street papa ajao mushin lagos nigeria 23401 If you choose my Personal Delivery Option then I would be there in about 3 days. It will take me 1-2 days to prepare and then 1 day for travel, so I would be there on Friday or Saturday. Checking around, the best price on airfare seems to be $1,782 for a roundtrip. I'll require two nights in the hotel, so I imagine $200 per night should cover that. For food I imagine I can get by on $100. After much research, I can get a Lamborghini for $463 for the day (I had to really haggle on this one) but it will require a $1000 deposit for the short rental. A good personal escort will be another $1000 for the time I will be there (she must be clean, bathed, and shaven, and her paperwork certifying she is 100% disease-free must be notarized). Throw in another $100 for the French wine and probably $50 for the milk bath. So that comes out to something like $3,695. Please send a valid, non-fraudulent cashier's check for US$12,457.48 (product + shipping) to me and I'll be there by Saturday with your brand new Sony laptops plus your Commodore Business Machines 1526 Printer (quantity 5) and your Okidata Okimate 21 printer (also quantity 5). I look very forward to accumulating this transaction in the swiftest feasible timeslot capable to man. Thank you for your business!!! Osama P.S. I just want to give a shout-out to my homies on CCTALK! VCF is in the house, boyeeee!!! > > Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> wrote: > On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, mark green wrote: > > > thank you for therespond plaese i want you to caculate the total > > cost of the first order and 5 sony laptop plaese speed up the caculation > > so that i can make the payment and your reply is late plaese i need a > > qiuck reply > > Ok, the total without shipping is $8,762.48. I took the liberty of > configuring the laptops with the maximum 64K of memory and BASIC language > installed via the Bubble Memory module carrier, since you did not specify > what you wanted exactly. I also installed two 5.25" 140K floppy disks (I > didn't have any 8" disk drives available). > > How quickly would you like them shipped? Your options are: > > 1) Personal same-day delivery - I will deliver them to your door but you > must pay for the airfare, a hotel room, rental car (I require no less than > a high speed Italian car), personal escort that is certified disease free, > and three meals a day plus dessert and a bottle of French wine with my > milk bath at the end of each day. > > 2) Surface mail - 6-8 weeks > > 3) Camel courier (my cousin in Saudi Arabia runs this service) which will > take about 2-3 weeks once the products arrive in an undisclosed location > in an unidentified gulf state. > > Please advise immediately as payment will be required soon. > > -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Super DEC find today

by edward＠groenenberg.net

Well, today was a truly super find day. We (Henk Gooijen and I) collected 2 pallets full of test equipment from HP at an older warehouse (was used by DEC). What we got : 2x Unibus margin testers 2x Unibus exercisers 3x RK06/07 drive testers 2x RM02/3/5 drive testers 1x PRS01 papertape reader 2x portable RX02 drives (basically 1 RX02 drive + psu in suitcase) 1x portable RX01 drive 2x potrable RX50 drives 2x RL02 reference packs (these have a blue top and are marked RL02-RF) 1x set of RL01's containing a full XXDP+ diagnostic kit 1x RL02 containing XXDP+ 1x RA60 containing 8xxx/9xxx complete diagnostic kit 1x RL02 containing 11/750 diagnostics 2x RA60 data packs 2x RK07 alignment packs 2x RK06 alignment packs 1x RK07 XXDP+ pack 1x RM02/3 Alignment pack 1x RM02/3 XXDP+ pack 1x Kennedy 9900 tapedrive exerciser 1x Wilson tester (for various SMD/CMD drives, incl CDC's) 1x RP06 drive tester 1x RP05/06 alignment toolset 1x RT02 terminal 1x HSC50/70 software kit 3x RK06/07 alignment toolset 200+ floppies containing XXDP+ (DX/DY) 70+ floppies containing XXDP+ (RX50) 10+ tapes containing XXDP+ 3x head inspector kits. Pics to be seen at www.groenenberg.net/gallery/view_album.php Ed -- edward(a)groenenberg.net | Collector of PDP-11's. http://www.groenenberg.net | Politici zijn vieze oplichters. Unix Lives! M$ Windows is crap. '97 TL1000S

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Salvaging HP LaserJet Series II

by cb＠mythtech.net

>My HP series II makes a "groaning" sound as the paper exits into the >paper tray. No other symptoms, just the "Groan". Is that something to >fix now or something that is normal? IIRC, that is the exit rollers. Like most rubber rollers, they harden over time, causing them to start groaning as paper passes thru. I don't think it is something you have to fix ASAP. If you ignore it, eventually paper will stop exiting and jam. I repaired mine with a kit from fixyourownprinter.com (I also did the pickup rollers at the same time). Mine was for an Apple LaserWriter IINT, but its the same engine. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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ITEMS LIST............ (fwd)

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

ROFL! What's next, VCF Nigeria? Joe PS You forgot to add the armed guard(s) to your list of expenses. At 11:36 AM 9/21/04 -0700, you wrote: > >I did a BCC of the message below to the list but it didn't go through for >some reason. I wonder why not? > >Anyway, this is the last message I sent to my "customer". I'm anxiously >awaiting his reply. I can't wait to get behind the wheels of that >Lamborghini with my personal escort after a refreshing milk bath. > >-- > >Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org > >[ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] >[ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ] > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:01:37 -0700 (PDT) >From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> >To: mark green <greensupplier(a)yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: ITEMS LIST............ > >On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, mark green wrote: > >> hello >> thank you for the reply i we like to ship in 3 day plaese caculate >> the shipping cost to this address >> 40 bello street papa ajao mushin lagos nigeria 23401 > >If you choose my Personal Delivery Option then I would be there in about 3 >days. It will take me 1-2 days to prepare and then 1 day for travel, so I >would be there on Friday or Saturday. > >Checking around, the best price on airfare seems to be $1,782 for a >roundtrip. I'll require two nights in the hotel, so I imagine $200 per >night should cover that. For food I imagine I can get by on $100. After >much research, I can get a Lamborghini for $463 for the day (I had to >really haggle on this one) but it will require a $1000 deposit for the >short rental. A good personal escort will be another $1000 for the time I >will be there (she must be clean, bathed, and shaven, and her paperwork >certifying she is 100% disease-free must be notarized). Throw in another >$100 for the French wine and probably $50 for the milk bath. So that >comes out to something like $3,695. > >Please send a valid, non-fraudulent cashier's check for US$12,457.48 >(product + shipping) to me and I'll be there by Saturday with your brand >new Sony laptops plus your Commodore Business Machines 1526 Printer >(quantity 5) and your Okidata Okimate 21 printer (also quantity 5). > >I look very forward to accumulating this transaction in the swiftest >feasible timeslot capable to man. > >Thank you for your business!!! > >Osama > >P.S. I just want to give a shout-out to my homies on CCTALK! VCF is in >the house, boyeeee!!! > >> >> Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> wrote: >> On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, mark green wrote: >> >> > thank you for therespond plaese i want you to caculate the total >> > cost of the first order and 5 sony laptop plaese speed up the caculation >> > so that i can make the payment and your reply is late plaese i need a >> > qiuck reply >> >> Ok, the total without shipping is $8,762.48. I took the liberty of >> configuring the laptops with the maximum 64K of memory and BASIC language >> installed via the Bubble Memory module carrier, since you did not specify >> what you wanted exactly. I also installed two 5.25" 140K floppy disks (I >> didn't have any 8" disk drives available). >> >> How quickly would you like them shipped? Your options are: >> >> 1) Personal same-day delivery - I will deliver them to your door but you >> must pay for the airfare, a hotel room, rental car (I require no less than >> a high speed Italian car), personal escort that is certified disease free, >> and three meals a day plus dessert and a bottle of French wine with my >> milk bath at the end of each day. >> >> 2) Surface mail - 6-8 weeks >> >> 3) Camel courier (my cousin in Saudi Arabia runs this service) which will >> take about 2-3 weeks once the products arrive in an undisclosed location >> in an unidentified gulf state. >> >> Please advise immediately as payment will be required soon. >> >> > >-- > >Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org > >[ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] >[ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ] > > > >

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HP5036A schematics

by oconnor＠wctc.net

Patrick, I saw your posting of 9 Jan 04 regarding the HP 5036A Service Manual. I am trying to obtain a copy. Do you still have the information? Thank you, Chuck O'Connor chuck(a)tcr-inc.com

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ASR-33 repair parts

by CPUMECH＠aol.com

For $25 you can buy a new typewheel for a 33TTY. Call Dataterm Inc. 781-938-1010 in Woburn, MA.

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Guess what the hurricane(s) left behind!

by ddl-cctech＠danlan.com

Hmm. I have a variety of iRMX86 distribution disks including, IIRC, Pascal and Fortran (and maybe PL/M) compilers. I also have Xenix distribution disks for the 286 flavor of Intel multibus box. There should be real manuals for everything as well. These will all be coming out of the crawlspace shortly... Dan Lanciani ddl(a)danlan.*com

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Yahoo! News Story - Floppy Disk Becoming Relic of the Past (fwd)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 21 2004, 7:57, John Foust wrote: > At 05:42 AM 9/21/2004, you wrote: > >Lots of 'em out there, John- not very expensive either. > > Late-night brain block. I own several, but I always > thought of them as "read the CF cards from my camera" devices. > They require special drivers. But USB thumb-memories don't, right? Readers I've seen use the standard drivers -- W2K and WinXP recognise them. The little cheap 6-in-one/7-in-one/8-in-one card readers just appear as multiple USB storage devices, like DOS disks (as do USB "pens"). I got mine here for about five quid. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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international order........... (fwd)

by cb＠mythtech.net

>By the way, for proper context, here's the original message thread from my >"customer". I have no idea where he saw that I have Commodore or Okidata >printers. But you do realize this does make it on topic, since those are >very vintage! :) I assume you will fill us in on how this plays out? Or at least point us to a web page where you post it? Oh, and how is your price on just dwibbles? I'm a little shy on them myself :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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computer flooring (fwd)

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

This topic is very timely my wife just asked me about a pile of computer flooring in the corner of the garage. I have some of the non carpet computer flooring tiles, they came out of a CT scanner room. I think there are about 32 tiles, and some of the rails and feet to support them. Best offer plus you pay shipping... Located near Kansas City, Missouri. Offering a bribe; I'll throw in some of my wife's homemade chocolate chip cookies for the right deal. She will be glad to make them if the tiles disappear. Mike

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computer flooring (fwd)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 21 2004, 9:45, Al Kossow wrote: > > > this stuff is HARD to come by > > yup. > > I'm interested as well. > Where is it located? > > Would suspect the other Big Iron people (Donzelli, Ross) may be interested > as well. Makes me feel pleased I got mine a few years ago (about 200 sq ft). $4 a tile is a good price but do check what condition it's in -- some types are quite prone to warping if badly stored (unevenly stacked) and they're worthless if they're warped. Also check the height of the stanchions, and whether they can be cut down if they're too tall. I got a local engineering company to cut 70 for me. Lastly, check if they're vinyl-clad or carpeted. Lifters for carpeted ones are relatively uncommon and expensive (I discovered this when we lost one recently and I had quite a task finding a decent replacement), plus carpeted ones tend to make for more dust and static, to say nothing of the problems of solder splashes, oily dirt, etc. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Yahoo! News Story - Floppy Disk Becoming Relic of the Past (fwd)

by AppleTO＠gmail.com

If the floppy disk disappeared, I would notice (I use them) but would not care. It is also unfair to say the floppy disk is disappearing when CD-ROMs/CD-Rs/CD-RWs are serving similar purposes: to distribute and install software, to exchange data between machines or people, and to backup data. The main difference is the technology. Besides, floppy diskettes are not as uniform as the article implies. They seem to suggest that there are two sizes, then leave it at that. Well, there were different densities and encodings too. Oh, and there were more than two physical sizes. (IIRC, 8" and 12" was common. Then there is all of the similar-but-failed technologies.) I couldn't care less if they disappeared, because all of those different formats make it next to impossible to transfer data between different computers. Now if you were to say that the serial port is disappearing ... well then I would be concerned.

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Big IBM vacuum-column tapes drives on Ebay

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 21 2004, 9:53, Paul Koning wrote: > >>>>> "Brad" == Brad Parker <brad(a)heeltoe.com> writes: > > Brad> Paul Koning wrote: > >> With the controller included, it would presumably hook up to > >> anything that knows an IBM channel interface. So if you have a > >> DX11 you could hook it up to your Unibus PDP11; > > Brad> wow - bus & tag? I've never seen a dx11. I assume VMS had > Brad> support for that. > > No VMS support that I know of. The DX11 was a rather uncommon beast. > I believe it was a 6 foot rack full of little M series modules (and > perhaps even older modules). Built by the CSS group, I believe. When > I heard of it, it was definitely used with a PDP11 at one end, not a > VAX. Not a 6' rack, about 4', but it was full of M-series modules. And lamps. Lots and lots of lamps on the front. I've seen two, one converted to use LEDs (or possibly supplied like that), and both hanging off 11/34s, running a modified version of RT-11, IIRC (but I could be wrong about the OS). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Taxan 630U monitor question

by rich_bramante＠yahoo.com

I dug up a Taxan 630U RGB monitor with an 8-pin DIN connector that I'm trying to test. Apparently this was originally connected to an AT&T 6300, so the cable I currently have is 8pin DIN <--> DB-25. Is there anyway to connect this to a standard DB-9 CGA port. I've looked around a little for an adapter or cable but no immediate hits. Can I build my own if I get the pinouts? Thanks for any help. _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com

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Atari 2600 s-video mod

by bpope＠wordstock.com

All, I am working on a Atari 2600 S-video mod and am trying to follow instructions for a 4 switch 2600.... But of course the 2600 _they_ picture is totally different then the one I am trying to mod.. Does anyone have some pinouts for the TIA or for different 4-switch 2600's? Is there any way I could find out the locations of the Lumas / Sync / Chroma myself? Thanks!, Bryan Pope

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Yahoo! News Story - Floppy Disk Becoming Relic of the Past (fwd)

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Hmm. Come to think of it, does anyone make a CompactFlash >to USB adapter that would let us use all these cheap CF cards >as USB disks? Yes, just don't ask me who, because I don't remember off the top of my head. But I know when I bought my first MemoryStick reader, the same company offered a reader for CF along with other types. It was about the same size as a USB FlashDrive, and could be plugged directly into a USB port (although it also came with a 3 foot extension cable). I can't give a review of how well it worked, as the package said my MemoryStick reader didn't need drivers for Mac OS 9, upon opening the package, I found that it in fact did need drivers. So I returned it and bought a different brand that really didn't need drivers. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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computer flooring (fwd)

by aek＠spies.com

Check if they have the jacks as well. Tiles by themselves would be a pita to install without the support jacks, which are normally glued to the subfloor

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Intellec 8 Development System

by JMeyer101＠aol.com

Looking for some advice on this deal. I found an Intellec 8 with instruction manual, Cassette Tape Unit (Mesonix Automation LTD - model # is listed as "Fitted DCR-3 Tape Unit"), Stand Alone Tape Reader/Transmitter (Addmaster 606)and a Desktop Punch Station (Litton - Sweda International, Inc Roytron 528 Punch). Seller is quoting two prices, one as-is and the other is "Cleaned and Working" (there is a $1500 difference between the two. I think I'll take my chances and clean it myself...). I already own an Intellec 4 and thought the 8 would be a nice addition. Not sure what a reasonable price for the whole lot would be. Any comments? Thanks, Jeff

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looking for NeXTstep

by yoda＠isr.ist.utl.pt

Hello. I rescued a NeXTcube from going to the garbage. However, the hard disk seems dead. Does anyone have a NeXTstep instalation software around? Cheers, Rodrigo Ventura -- *** Rodrigo Martins de Matos Ventura <yoda(a)isr.ist.utl.pt> *** Web page: http://www.isr.ist.utl.pt/~yoda *** Teaching Assistant and PhD Student at ISR: *** Instituto de Sistemas e Robotica, Polo de Lisboa *** Instituto Superior Tecnico, Lisboa, PORTUGAL *** PGP fingerprint = 0119 AD13 9EEE 264A 3F10 31D3 89B3 C6C4 60C6 4585

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DECmate III vs VT103 for size? was Re: Real PDP11 model question

by Innfogra＠aol.com

The terminal for the Decmate III is the VR201 although they can use the color VR241 with the optional color card. The keyboard is the LK201 Gold Key word processing keyboard. The DECmate III is a small box about 12" wide by 11" deep and about 5 1/2" high. The VR201 is one of the smallest mono monitors I have ever seen, comparable to the Zenith 9 inchers. I have had both the VT103 and a Decmate III and would definitely believe the Decmate III, keyboard and mono monitor is smaller than a VT103 and keyboard. Now if you include the color monitor...but then the VT103 was not color either. A quick google search for "DECmate III" brought up http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=1&c=468 which has a picture of the outfit. Hmm, in production from 1984 to 1990. There were both Z80 and 8088 option cards for CPM and MS-DOS? I have seen the CPM options, although more common in the DECmate II but never the 8088 card. Monochrome WPS Word Processing worked very well and was easy to run on the RX50's 400K floppys. I am sure that is why it survived for so long. Does anyone know of an Ethernet interface for one of these? Paxton Astoria, OR

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LGP-21 photos, including memory

by tomj＠wps.com

Sloooowly I get stuff up on the website... http://wps.com/projects/LGP-21/Documentation/Photos/index.html This URL is in the index, but I've added some photos. If you scroll down there's some photos of the memory, heads, platter, scratches, the caplugs, etc. (After careful dust removal, I keep a lint-free washed towel over the top of the memory assembly. No sense inviting more dust in there.)

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Poly 8813/8810 emulator

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Bob Bybee has place his Polymorphic emulator on his web page. He was an editor for the PolyNews. The emulator runs on a PC in DOS mode. Most current machines can emulate the original faster than the original. He originally wrote the emulator for people migrating from the Polymorphic machines to PC's but wanted to keep the software that they were previously using on the Poly's. Many had ledger programs and Poly's BASIC was one of the better implementations. Anyway, it is all good fun: http://bybeeweb.com/pm.htm Enjoy Dwight PS Any specific questions about the commands, you can either ask him or me. He is much more expert than I am but I do have a working knowledge.

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Don Maslin

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Although, I never actually asked Don for copies of an OS, I have sent a couple of things to him. I do hope that his family realizes how important saving this old software was to him and takes appropriate action to keep that information >from being lost. I'd never met him but we have had several email conversations. I feel like I did just lose a friend. In fact, I did just lose a friend. Dwight

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BBC printer port (ever used for anything else?)

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

Still tinkering with that Acorn Cambridge.... Firstly some background... As Beeb owners will know, the BBC micro had 5 header plugs on the front edge of the main PCB, which were accessible under the machine. They were : Floppy Disk (34 pin, standard Shugart pinout) Printer (26 pin. This is one port of a 6522, buffered, and used to connector a Centronics printer) USer port (20 pin, the other port of that 6522) 1MHz Bus (34 pin. This is a system bus, 8 address lines, 8 data lines, R/W, Phi2 clock, address decoder outputs, etc) Tube (40 pin. Also a system bus, used for the second processors) On the Camdbridge, the floppy and Tube ports are not brought out. There's a floppy drive built-in, and the Tube links to the 32016 second processor board. The other 3 connectoes are linked to connectors on the rear panel -- DB25 for the user port, DC37 for the 1MHz bus (yes it's used internally for the SCSI controller too), 24 pin Blue Ribbon for the printer port. Now, one of the things I need to do is make up addapters from those connector back to header plugs so I can connect normal Beeb add-ons to the Cambridge. At leat for the User port and 1MHz bus. If the printer port was only ever used to link to printers, then I can make a cable from the 24 pin Blue Ribbon to a 36 pin Blue Ribbon (to fit a Centronics printer socket). But if someone used the printer port for something else (say as a set of outputs to control something, since it's buffered the data lines are output-only), I suppose I'd better make an adapter back to a 26 pin header. So has anyone ever heard of the Beeb printer port being used for something other than a parallel printer? -tony

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RAREST COMPUTERS....

by LAAG＠PACBELL.NET

ANY THOUGHTS ON HOW RARE THE COMPUTER AUTOMATION MINI COMPUTERS MIGHT BE NOW??? SOMEONE TOLD ME OF A GUY UP IN THE SEATTLE AREA WITH SOME TOO...

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ISDN useless relic? Token Ring unkillable

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Mike Ford <mikeford(a)socal.rr.com> wrote: > Sitting on my desk I have a totally neat Harmonix Hi-Card P8, a PCI card > that I think can talk to 4 primary ISDN lines [...] Did you say ISDN *Primary* Rate Interface (PRI), the big expensive one that carries 23 (in North America) or 30 (in Europe) B channels, NOT the 2B+D Basic Rate Interface (BRI)? So it's basically a channelised T1/E1 card, right? Do you know if it can do E1 or just T1? If it can do E1, my friend Stacy Minkin in Uzbekistan was looking for a PCI channelised E1 card and probably still is. It isn't ISDN, though, just a channelised E1. He wants to connect an E1 line from their old municipal telephone switch (classic traditional telephony, pre-ISDN, pre-other modern innovations) to an Asterisk Linux-based VoIP gateway. MS

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smc HDC9224

by emu＠ecubics.com

Anybody out here has a datasheet for it ? (disk controller)

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BC11Y-05?

by brad＠heeltoe.com

Hi all I could use a short Unibus connector cable. I have one which is about 20' long and I have one which is about 2.5' long. I need one about 5' long. I think that's a BC11Y-05. Basically to go between two unibus boxes sitting next to each other on the floor :-) Anyone have one they don't need? (this is the wide "white" cable with a dual-height connector on each end) -brad

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Real PDP11 model question

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

>Were there any PDP11's as small as the DECmate III? Not really. The smallest box (available from DEC) into which one could place a PDP-11 was the Shoebox (SB-11, or BA11-VA, if I remember correctly) which was about a foot wide and about 9 inches deep. It had a 4slot backplane (4x2, Q, AB side only) and a power supply. This was enough to put together a CPU (11/2, KDF11-A, KDJ11-A), memory, serial lines, bootstrap (MXV11-B), network card (DEQNA or DELQA) and a disk interface (RQDX3). It was not meant for housing the actual disk.. that would have to be another box. Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL,ST| email: mbg at world.std.com | | Member of Technical Staff | megan at savaje.com | | SavaJe Technologies, Inc. | (s/ at /@/) | | 100 Apollo Drive | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Chelmsford, MA 01824 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (978) 256 6521 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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Teledisk

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi I very much doubt teledisk would work through USB. In order to work, it has to be very personal with the controller. Dwight >From: "jim stephens" <jwstephens(a)msm.umr.edu> > >teledisk is quite cranky about running on processors that are too fast >if you get the wrong version and the wrong system together. > >also have you run it on anything that is USB attached? I'd be interested >if any of the trick stuff to adjust track sizes, and other copy protect >override features work on the USB version. > >jim > > >

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Guess what the hurricane(s) left behind!

by aek＠spies.com

You dirty dog! I didn't know that you had a copy! Can I get a copy of it and the docs for it? -- the docs should be on bitsavers/intel I offered you DMK (or raw) images a year ago -- X-Sender: rigdonj(a)pop-server.cfl.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2003 11:24:55 To: Al Kossow <aek(a)spies.com> From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> Subject: Re: Good News, Bad news In-Reply-To: <200308021514.h72FEdx6005359(a)spies.com> References: <3.0.6.16.20030802082807.515f2da4(a)pop-server.cfl.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-SpamBouncer: 1.6 beta (7/05/02) X-SBClass: OK X-Folder: Bulk Status: RO At 08:14 AM 8/2/03 -0700, you wrote: >they should be on sourceforge. >http://sourceforge.net/projects/dmklib/ > Thanks. Have you tried to use Teledisk on the iRMX disks? If not can you try it on one of them. If it works can you send or post the disk images where I can get them?

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Yahoo! News Story - Floppy Disk Becoming Relic of the Past (fwd)

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Ethan Dicks" <dickset(a)amanda.spole.gov> > >> Now if you were to say that the serial port is disappearing ... well >> then I would be concerned. > >The serial port _is_ disappearing. I am concerned. I have a number of Hi I'm starting to have what I call linkage machines. I have a lap top with a CDROM drive that I tranfer stuff to a desk top with CROM and floppies. From the floppy, I go to an older lap top to send serial to my older machines. I expect someday I'll have a DVD writer to talk to a machine that only uses DVD's. It is the weakest chain linking but what else to do? Dwight

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Yahoo! News Story - Floppy Disk Becoming Relic of the Past (fwd)

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Gee, neither of the last two new computers that I purchased had >floppy drives (and one of those is about 5 years old now). I'd say >this is old news (and the PC world finally catching up with the rest >of us). I can't even remember the last time I used a floppy drive. Heck the last two PC's I bought not only didn't have floppy drives, but completely lacked floppy controllers, so I couldn't add one if I even wanted to. They also lacked on board Serial and Parallel. Everything was expected to be done via USB. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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kaypro 10 for sell!!!

by josh＠scarecrow.com

I know this post is pretty old - still have one (or a Kaypro 2)? Looking for it - doesn't matter if it runs or not . Working on a random nostalgia project. Cheers, Josh.

21 years, 11 months

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Intellec power cord

by JMeyer101＠aol.com

I received both power cords on Friday. I ended up buying both cords Jack Rubin suggested (only about $6.00 each and I didn't want to waste time waiting if the first wasn't correct). I checked the polarity of both cords and the cord # 17952-B1-8 matches the polarity on the Intellec 4. Big thanks to Jack for pointing me to Newark to pick up the cord! And thanks to all others who gave guidance for how to verify the correct polarity. Thanks, Jeff

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C4P Floppy

by JMeyer101＠aol.com

Hello All, I am considering modifying an old 5 1/4 or even 3 1/2 drive to work with the 4P but have never done one before so I'm a bit weary (I've been given some coaching from a couple guys from CCTech on how to do the conversion and they say it's not a big deal. Thanks guys). However, I'd rather have an original to complete my system. I have the opportunity to pick one up from ebay at about $400, but that's a bit over my budget. Anyone know of a source where I can pick up a drive? Thanks, Jeff

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Please Help Identify Mystery ISA Card

by gsutton9503＠wavecable.com

I just recently purchased an old Toshiba T5200/100 Laptop at a thrift store. One of the cards installed in it was an old 8-bit device of some sort. First of all, here are pictures of the card in question. http://webpages.charter.net/scarletdown/Geekworks/GW-Mystery-Card-0.JPG http://webpages.charter.net/scarletdown/Geekworks/GW-Mystery-Card-1.JPG Can anyone here help me identify what this card is, and more importantly, where I can download MS-DOS drivers for it? It is from Maynard Electronics, 1988. The large socketed chip says: WD33C93A-PL 00-08 9031 069660200102 PROTO Other markings state: Type II Controller, and Rev. -5 The FCC ID number is D8I6I2 60201. Just taking a wild guess, I suspect that this is some sort of SCSI Controller. However, I could not find it in the TH99 archives. The only match for Maynard on Driverguide is for a 16-Bit SCSI driver from Seagate. Also, I could not find any info on Seagate's site either. So, anyone here have any info on this card and possibly know where to get drivers for it?

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Hard disk recovery recommendations

by jfoust＠threedee.com

>From the recent discussion about data recovery from hard drives, was there a recommendation for a company that performs well at fair prices? I'd like to keep a company in mind for recommending to clients when they're in dire straits. I looked around on the web for resources regarding data recovery, and by far most of the words out there are related to sales pitches for the companies offering the service. I don't think I found any less-potentially-biased info from amateurs. Safe for amateurs like us: If the drive is working, data recovery tools like http://www.r-tt.com/ Software-based tools like SpinRite www.grc.com Logic-board swapping between identical models of HD Not safe or smart for amateurs: Platter swapping - John

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Paging Fred N. van Kempen

by rich_bramante＠yahoo.com

Fred, please contact me re: the Rainbow Doc Set. I haven't heard anything for 14 days and am going to relist them. Thanks. rich __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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Made first phone call

by vcf＠siconic.com

I made an initial phone call to Don's number and got an answering machine (presumably Don's voice is still on the OGM). I chose not to leave a message. I'll try again later today. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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More VT520 terminals for sale

by vcf＠siconic.com

I've posted a couple more DEC VT520 terminals on the Vintage Computer Marketplace: http://marketplace.vintage.org $25 each...such a bargain! :) -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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simh qustions

by ron.hudson＠sbcglobal.net

simh hp2100 how do I setup the simulator to run the papertape basic? set cpu.... att dev basic1 boot dev what do I put for dev, do I need any other attaches simh PDP11 / RSTS/E Can other machines on my network attach to the simulated PDP11 via telnet? what port? Thanks.

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Yahoo! News Story - Floppy Disk Becoming Relic of the Past (fwd)

by melamy＠earthlink.net

the serial port and parallel ports are being replaced by USB ports... >Now if you were to say that the serial port is disappearing ... well >then I would be concerned.

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Real PDP11 model question

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 19 2004, 21:14, Jerome H. Fine wrote: > As far as I understand, some backplanes that handle the PDP-11/03 > can't handle the 11/23 or the 11/73. But some might be able to > handle all 3 CPU types. Are you aware of this problem and which > backplanes are in which category? All I can think of is the obvious -- that you couldn't put some of the quad-height devices in a serpentine backplane, but that isn't an 11/03 vs. 11/23 issue. There are backplanes (H9273-A and H9275-A) where you are supposed to change jumpers. Unless someone has meant that the 11/03 is 16-bit and the others are 22-bit, but they still work in 18-bit backplanes. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Real PDP11 model question

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 19 2004, 17:22, Zane H. Healy wrote: > Ouch! I knew there was something I was forgetting. That's what the > remaining slot would have to be filled with, a RAM board. Is the > MXV11-B only dual-height? I thought all boards like that are > quad-height, but then I don't own any. No, both the QBus multifunction modules are dual-height (MXV11-A and MXV11-B). I've seen a small machine built this way: KDF11-A, MXV11-A, and a Plessey RXV21, uncased but in a small frame, used with a single boxed portable 8" floppy drive. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Any Honeywell fans?

by dan＠ekoan.com

For those that have asked, I've put up some photos of the Honeywell training materials I have. You can see them at www.decodesystems.com/honeywell-training.html I haven't set a price or anything, but I am happy to take offers. Cheers, Dan

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Odd PET 8032 mainboard

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

>What board is this? Is this the "early 8032" board that is mentioned on funet? >Both boards say "Copyright 1080". Obviously that should read "Copyright 1980" (Otherwise I would have a REALLY vintage computer). Dave -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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Real PDP11 model question

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I had a couple of SMS boxes in my warehouse that had hard drive and a floppy drive and I think a 4 slot qbus backplane. One had 8 inch drives and the other 5 1/4 inch drives. When I got them I think they had 11/23+ CPUs. They were 19" rackmount and about 5 inches tall. Fairly deep as thery were designed for 8 inch drives in front with the cardcage in back. I think you could put an 11/73 card in one. Zane, did you buy those from me years ago? They sold in one of my final warehouse sales. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Rescue of a life-time.. or the year at the very least.

by pat＠computer-refuge.org

So, after forgetting to bid on the 11/780 that was on eBay, ending on Sunday (I slept in 15 minutes too late), I decided to drop the guy a message and see if he had another 11/780. Much to my amazement he did, and when I asked if he had any other DEC equipment, he replied that he had an 11/750 (which it turned out he had two, but I only took one of), and that I should "bring the largest truck I could find, and he'd get me loaded up. So, I spent Sunday night looking at options for rental or borrowed trucks, and times, and decided that it was cheap enough to get a 15' Budget Truck (which was a lot cheaper than what Penske or UHaul wanted for a similar size), and after finding out he'd be leaving Friday for a month, I decided I needed to go get the stuff now. So, I reserved the truck for Tuesday. Having done this "move computer that weighs a lot" thing a few times before, I put together some tools Monday night, 10 or 12 ratchet straps, hard packing foam to keep stuff from scratching too badly, tape for marking things, along with some cardboard boxes, ziploc bags, masking tape and a sharpie and 2 friends (well one was my roommate). We left here at 8am on Tuesday morning, picked up the Truck in Waukesa, WI, around 12:15, and got to the place before 12:30, avoiding too much bad traffic driving through Chicago a bit after morning rush hour. The building the machines have been stored in for the last decade (or more) is an old limestone building in downtown Waukesa, which according to the guy who was trying to clear out the stuff used to be a brewery - fitting for an old building near Milwaukee. : ) Anyhow, the guy is a landlord, and some company was using the building as storage. He said that there used to be a lot more machines there before - some had been scrapped, and he had been able to sell some things using eBay. So, after getting there we loaded up the 11/750, and UNIBUS expansion rack that appeared to go with it, and headed to the "large pile" to look through more things. In that pile were the two 11/780s, another 11/750, a Systems Industries disk rack with some sort of controller, which I'm guessing goes with the VAXen, a 5ft DEC rack with a Cipher tape drive in the top and a UNIBUS box at the bottom. Aparently, attached to all the VAX hardware was some Intergraph and Synercom CAD "workstations", which consisted of an approx. 4x2x3ft (WxDxH) box that contained the "main electronics" with a 4x2 ft digitizing tablet, and two monitors which were 20-24" on top of the main 4x2x3ft box. The Intergraph ones were somewhat plain, with the two monitors in one enclosure, but the Synercom ones had a very "Bat-Cave" feel to them, and were separate monitors on swivel posts. If I had room for one, I would have grabbed one of them. I didn't get a chance to look too closely, or take a picture either, which I do somewhat regret. In the back corner behind that stuff was a CDC 14" disc cartridge drive of some sort (which was rated 1phase, 208VAC.. I didn't have room for it, or disk carts), a Sun 3/180 with a pair of 800MB-ish Fujitsu SMD drives and a Sun-branded 9-track tape drive. The final item I found there was a Data General Eclips MV/4000. It had two 19" rack mount disk drives, which appeared to possibly be SCSI (?), a 9-track drive, and the CPU. So, I managed to bring home one of the 11/750s, its expansion cabinet, one 11/780, the Systems Industries disk rack, the DEC rack with the Cipher drive and UNIBUS box, the Sun 3/180 rack, and the DG Eclipse. All in all, I'd say I made out fairly well. The truck was probably a bit overloaded (I'm certain we had more than 3500lbs of stuff in the truck, which what it's "suggested capacity" was, as the leaf springs on the back tires were arcing upwards slightly, instead of downwards... I'm glad it's a rental. : ) The ride home brought us right through rush-hour traffic on Chicago's loop (I-90/94), and we got back here around 10pm; we left for home around 5pm after some lunch. I spent the next day (Wednesday) working all day, and then came home and unloaded the truck with some help from friends. We removed as much weight as we could from the racks before taking them down the ramp, which was actually wide enough to be of some help, and was strong enough to hold up to the mostly-intact 11/780. I've got a picture of the 11/780 up, with the front doors removed: http://computer-refuge.org/compcollect/dec/vax/11780/vax11780-front-open.jpg I don't yet have pictures of anything else, nor do I have most of it reassembled yet. I spent this afternoon testing the 11/780's power supplies with a dummy load - they all appear to work - and then running a 30A 220V line from where there used to be an electric range in this house to the garage so I can try to power it up. I noticed when I was working on the VAX (I had to look at what cards are in it!) that it has a full complement of 32MB of ram (8 x 4MB boards), made by EMC Corp, along with a memory backplane power supply by EMC and a battery-backup power supply box for the memory, which was the same as what the 11/750 used for its memory backup (the 11/750 I got also had a memory backup battery power supply). I took the batteries out of those, along with the TODC power supply, as I'm quite certain that they need to be replaced. If I can remember, tomorrow I'll be fetching a new battery for the TODC power supply in the 11/780 and fitting that. Tomorrow I'll be finishing that up, wiring up an adaptor so I can plug in the 11/780's PDU (I "fixed" it a bit - moved plugs around - so I can use it with 1-phase 220 instead of 3-phase 208), and potentially re-racking some of the rest of what I have. I hope to have the 11/780 cleaned up and ready to try powering up before the end of the weekend. After that will be the Eclipse, the 11/750, and the Sun 3/180 (in no particular order). As I set up my 11/780, I'm gonna try to put together a page on it like the 11/750 page I have on my site right now, I'll probably do something similar for the Eclipse too once I get that far. One thing I noticed after getting home is that I should have engaged the shipping locks on the disk drives... so I don't know how well they faired, but that'll be something I can worry about later, as it's too late to do anything about it now. In one of the UNIBUS boxes (presumably for the 11/780) I got, there was a Emulex UC18 UNIBUS SCSI card, so if all else fails, I should be able to put some low-power disk drives (even FH 5.25" drives are low power for it! :) on that thing, and I *think* (but am not yet sure because I haven't checked it out) that the Eclipse also uses SCSI disks. I realize how much the UC18 is probably worth, and would consider selling it if I had another form of mass-storage for the 11/780, but I'm not sure I do.... that's something I still have to look into. Since the stuff I got is now blocking my roommate from parking in the garage, I'm gonna have to start purging some of the smaller / less interesting things I've got laying around here, so look out for postings of stuff available from me soon. As well, if you're interested in the Intergraph or Synercom stuff, or those disk drives (sorry I didn't look closely enough for a part #), you might want to look the guy up via the 11/780 auction and send the guy a message. Just remember that someone already has the other 11/780 and 11/750 going to him. :) Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCS --- http://www.itap.purdue.edu/rcs/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org

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QBus chassis and backplanes

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

In view of the recent discussion about which backplane(s) go with which CPU(s) and some similar discussion on alt.sys.pdp11, I've collected together some of my data on backplanes and chassis. They're in a text file at http://www.dunnington.u-net.com/public/PDP-11/QBus_chassis If anyone wishes to add to that, feel free to send me information :-) -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Searching for LapTop manual (IBM T21)

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Do go to the IBM website! All the drivers are there in support and I think the manuals are in the tech database. It is kept up to date. You can search by your model number. Paxton Astoria, OR

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Real PDP11 model question

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 19 2004, 15:03, Zane H. Healy wrote: > To the best of my knowledge the smallest possible PDP-11 made out of > real hardware would be a 4-slot dual-height backplane, with a > dual-height CPU (ideally a PDP-11/73), DLV-11J (providing console > port), 3rd party disk controller w/bootstrap (preferably SCSI). That > would leave room for one additional dual-height board. What about memory? All the dual-height CPUs including the KDJ11-A are CPU-only. You'd be better using an MXV11-B (you can disable the bootstrap) instead of the DLV11-J. Smallest of all would be a Falcon or one of the other KXT11 series. Everything on one card, and you could add a disk controller if you wanted. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Atari Unix

by KVanMersbergen＠RandMcNally.com

According to the HP Service Guide a 50 message is: 50 Error/Service (Fuser Malfunction) 1. Temporary Error Power off for 20 minutes to clear temporary 50 error 2. Low/unstable power (brownout) Locate/verify stable power source I hope that can help you -Ken V. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 11:36 AM To: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Atari Unix I am trying to resurect some ancient HP laserjets. Two Laserjet II's and one Laserjet 4v. Prior to failure they were all three running fine and giving nice output. Then each just stoped and began to give the same error message, "50 Service". Just what does this mean? Is it a counter that has to be reset or is there really something wrong with them. If the latter I am going to pull the ink cartridges and set them out by the curb. If the former, can someone shed some light on the correct procedure to get them going again. Jason McBrien wrote: > How about dd'ing it to a file, transferring it to another computer and > pressing a CD? > > >> From: luke <etyrnal(a)ameritech.net> >> Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic >> Posts"<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> >> To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org >> Subject: Atari Unix >> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 22:48:34 -0500 >> >> "For those who own Atari TT030 workstations, I have finally gotten a >> hard >> disk with Atari's version of Unix System V on it running along with a >> diskette with setboot.prg utility that sets the nvram in the TT030's to >> recognize and boot from the Unix Hard Disk. >> >> If anyone is interested, I can make ghost images of the 300MB SCSI >> hard disk >> for you. One word of caution, according the Atari engineer who >> wrote Atari >> Unix, it does not work on all TT030's. Some of the units had bugs and >> issues, most came back into Atari's service center where the -33 68030's >> were replaced with slower 16mhz CPU's, so while I will guarantee that >> the >> image works, I cannot guarantee if your TT will have a problem or >> not. So >> far I've tried it out with 3 TT's and they all work. Also Atari >> Unix will >> recognize Riebl VME ethernet cards and set them as /dev/en0 so you >> can hook >> the TT up to the internet directly. I personally am going to see if >> I can >> get Apache to work on the TT as it would be great to run a website for >> Atari's on an actual Atari computer. >> >> If you want a copy, I need a 300mb SCSI HD to Ghost the image to and >> you pay >> shipping to and from me. >> >> >> Curt >> " >> >> Hi >> >> my friend and i have been looking for this for a while... >> >> is there a way to create a ghost image that is downloadable? >> >> this way we can ghost it into our own drive ourselves? >> >> there are two tt's we are trying to get going... >> >> thanks for any info >> >> - luke >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the > Back to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx > >

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RSTS strange problem

by ron.hudson＠sbcglobal.net

Ok, I have repeated it again... and typed out all the files before I rebooted - they disappeared again. I ran option:RES Clean then booted again. They were still gone. It's funny that all the files I touched disappeared.. Perhaps this is a clue... What is SY0: as contrast to SY: and DL0: (all the same drive?)

21 years, 11 months

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BA356 SCSI

by Pres＠macro-inc.com

Just got an Emulex UC08 SCSI <--> QBus. Has the S handles on it and all I have is BA23. So, I'm waiting for drill to charge so I can drill out the 4 rivets that hold on the S handle stuff. Not having any experience with SCSI, I have a question. Could I use a BA356, with 8 bit personality module, with RZ29B-VW 4gb drives, with the UC08? From what I can find, the drives are 50 pin, wide SCSI, but I'm guessing that's what the personality module would handle. The UC08 has 2 HPDB50M connectors. It has 2 SCSI ports, typically one TMSCP, the other MSCP. If the BA356 and those drives should work, anyone know what the connector is on the BA356 going to the host adaptor? Ed K.

21 years, 11 months

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QBus chassis and backplanes

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Sep 19 2004, 5:24, Ed Kelleher wrote: > At 01:04 PM 9/18/2004, you wrote: > >In view of the recent discussion about which backplane(s) go with which > >CPU(s) and some similar discussion on alt.sys.pdp11, I've collected > >together some of my data on backplanes and chassis. > Bravo! What an excellent piece of work. > Thank you. Thanks! It's not complete, though. For example, I don't know what's in a BA212/BA213 (I believe it's a 12-slot straight Q/CD, but I don't know the number), BA215 (6 slot?) or BA440 (same as BA213?), or in a PDP-11/93 (I assume it's the same as an 11/83). And wasn't there a very small backplane in one of the PDTs or Pros, or am I misremembering? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 11 months

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BBC printer port (ever used for anything else?)

by gtoal＠gtoal.com

ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote: > I am suprised a sound sampler used the printer port -- there's only 2 > bit of input (the ACK line). Why not use the user port? My memory is really starting to fade. Now I think about it more, it was an ARCHIE peripheral! :-/ > It's brought off-board. It's linked to a 24 pin Blue Ribbon connector > (looks like a GPIB connecotr, but isn't the same wiring, of course) on > the back. I will certainly make a cable to link it to a printer... I may have the proper cable. I have an ACW but I think I finally scrapped the printer I was using with it. (One of those crummy Olivetti inkjets - really not worth repairing) > > By the way I'm borrowing Joe Rigdon's US Beeb so I can recover the code > > on my BBC 5.25" floppies, which is where the sideways RAM loading code > > you were looking for is stored. Unfortunately I did't have any copies > > Ah, so there is a loader program. I will dig about on the 'BBC Lives' > website, I can't believe there's nothing suitable there. There are *many* loader programs and they're easy to write. This particular one was one of mine and I don't think the source ever made it anywhere public. Fortunately I have at least 20 floppies containing the source and one of them is surely still readable! As well as a small stand-alone utility I wrote myself, a friend I was working with wrote a clone of the Master rom extensions, including SRLOAD etc, that I supplied with my Rom/Ram board. > If you want to transfer individual files, there is a kermit for the beeb > (and for that matter for the ACW's 32016 side...). Kermit may not be > efficient, but it's available for anything.... I know, look in the sources of ACW kermit and see who ported it :-) I was amazed (and depressed) that the ARM port of Kermit was simply my ACW port with another layer added to fake out the ACW routines, which themselves were just a veneer over BBC OSBytes! What a mess! But my experience has been that sucking off the entire disk as an image is not only faster, its more reliable in terms of disk errors, plus you find interesting deleted files that way :-) G

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A different RSTS/E Question

by ron.hudson＠sbcglobal.net

AARRGG I am logged in as 1,2 I try TECO TTY.CMD I edit it and then try to save it *EX$$ it then gives me a protection violation TTY.CMD in directory [1,2] has a protection code of <60> I am the owner [1,2] I should be able to edit it. I was able to edit it once. There is also a file TECF06.TMP <60> that I can't UNSAVE I also can't UNSAVE TTY.CMD -protection violation. hrmm What do I do?

21 years, 11 months

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Intel 86/330 pictures

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Hi All, I brought home two of the Intel 86/330 computers that I recently bought. (The things are BIG and I could only get two in the car at one time). I was told that they all contained bubble memory cards and the one that I checked had one but neither of the ones that I brought home had one :-( Anyway I took a few pictures of the two that I brought home. Here are some links; Front <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/Intel%2086-330/front.jpg>, Back <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/Intel%2086-330/-back.jpg>, One of these has the iSBC86/30 CPU card with a iSBC337 NDP daughterboard and a Real Time Clock daughterboard made by Linear Systems <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/Intel%2086-330/86-330w-rtc.jpg>, they both contained iSBC215 Winchester Hard Disk Controller cards with iSBC215 Floppy Disk Controller daughterboards <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/Intel%2086-330/WDC.jpg>, one system contains an iSBC028 RAM card <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/Intel%2086-330/iSBC028.jpg>, the other contains an iSBC012CX RAM card <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/Intel%2086-330/isbc012cx.jpg>, both systems contain iSBC86/30 CPU cards <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/Intel%2086-330/isbc86-30.jpg>. One system contains an iSBC88/45 Advanced Data Communications board. This is the first iSBC 88/45 that I've seen. According to a site on the net, it has 3 HDLC/SDLC half/full duplex communication channels, optional ASNCH/SYNC on 2 channels, Supports RS232C, CCITT V.24, or RS422A/449, has a 8088 8 MHz microprocessor, On-Board DMA supports 800KB baud operations, Self-clocking NRZI SDLC loop data link interface point-to-point multidrop, 16KB static RAM, Software programmable baud rate generation. More later, Joe

21 years, 11 months

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PDP8A chassis 50Hz

by waisun.chia＠hp.com

Question: Would the mismatch in mains frequency affect the performance of the rated ferro-resonant transformer (i.e. regulation)? > A PDP8A chassis is listed on eBay, in the USA > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=5124686380… > > Wonder what someone will think when they find out it's 50Hz only. > It's in the pictures, but not in the writeup. > > Ed K. > > That should not really matter that much, it is still 115 volts. The block of iron in the transformer is a little overspec-ed for 60Hz. Ed G.

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Congratulations to Ethan Dicks!

by kahrs＠caip.rutgers.edu

Ethan won the "out-of-the-way-corners-of-the-earth contest" on Velonews (competitive cycling magazine following the Tour de France). and, if they decide to start an "insane readers" contest, they assure him he's in the running as well. Congratulations!

21 years, 11 months

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Rotating memory data recovery

by tomj＠wps.com

OK, I'm very close to needing to suck the data off the main memory of this LGP-21 before I reform caps and all that electronicky stuff. It would be nice to have a 16-bit MHz A/D system, but I don't. Any *practical* suggestions for someone with an extremely limited budget? I also don't have time to build one, though it's within my skills. (The LGP-21 I have has a rotating magnetic main memory; bit-serial 80KHz clock, 64 physical tracks (128 logical), 4096 31 (32) bit words, NRZ or NRZI. I figure A/D sampling of the raw head signal at 8 to 10 times the original clock rate will allow offline data recovery, should I smash data on later CPU powerup.) The platter is driven by an AC motor. It powers up completely independently of the rest of the computer, so I can easily do all this before I begin the restoration. I planned on rigging up a fast opamp buffer/amp, clip-leading it onto each head in turn (the heads are low-Z; I do know about ground, common-mode, etc), and taking 2, 4 or a dozen snapshots of each track. I'll make the track snapshots available to anyone who wants them. If there's anything there, it would be really nice to see 41-year-old-data. Practical suggestions appreciated...

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Panasonic RL H-1400 - Information Needee

by spectre＠floodgap.com

> About the best I could do is to snail-mail the ROM to > you. -or- I'll be in San Diego tomorrow - Monday. That's a very generous offer, but there are two problems ... first I'm presently in San Bernardino :( and won't be back in San Diego until Sunday, and only Sunday at that. The bigger problem, though, is actually getting the capsule out to read it. I opened up my HHC-4 and dug out the NYL capsules, which I hadn't examined too closely before. They *seem* to be regular 24-pin EPROMs (with an NYL sticker conveniently covering the UV window; they're 4K TMS 2532s, for those interested). The problem is not the chip, which seems to be a regular old ROM. The problem is that the DIP legs are wrapped *around* the capsule carrier, and digging the DIP out is probably going to damage the chip. I could try wiring it into my Jason-Ranheim Promenade, but I don't see much I could attach the wires to on the capsule side, and soldering leads directly on to the DIP legs is right out because I'm very worried I would ruin this first example of this capsule I've ever seen! Is the BASIC ROM similarly "wrapped" on yours? If it is, perhaps there's another way of doing this -- some way of reading out the contents of the ROM using the HHC itself. If you've got the printer, maybe if we could scrabble some way of printing out a hex dump, assuming this BASIC is halfway sane and has PEEK and POKE or a moral equivalent. We'd just have to figure out where in memory, but this is easier than it looks because it would have to start on a 4K page boundary, meaning we'd only have to glance at 16 possible areas. If one of them has BASIC keywords, we've found it. All this to say I would be *very* antsy about damaging a *very* rare ROM with my relatively novice EE skills, despite the fact I want it *very* much! -- ---------------------------------- personal: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Floodgap Systems Ltd * So. Calif., USA * ckaiser(a)floodgap.com -- Five is a sufficiently close approximation to infinity. -- Robert Firth ----

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Don Maslin

by staylor＠mrynet.com

Don's passing is a great loss to all collectors. May he rest in peace. At risk of sounding selfish already, did anyone ever archive his disk images? I had coincidentally been awaiting some from him these last few weeks, and to my knowledge there were no archives of the floppy images he'd amassed. -scott

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classiccmp server problems

by jwest＠huey.classiccmp.org

Yup, the drive is pretty much toast. No telling how long it's going to stay up this time. I'm headed back home from the datacenter to start copying stuff off the drive. Loosely translated, anyone who wants to chip in for a new hard drive for the classiccmp server, let me know. If the servr is down, I can be reached at jwest(a)ezwind.net Thanks. Jay

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Fwd: RSTS strange problem

by ron.hudson＠sbcglobal.net

More info.. I can edit files if I am logged in as 100,1 but if I change files in 1,2 they disappear at running $shutup. I visited the computer history museum today and showed someone there the problem, and they suggested I "crash" the system instead of running shutup... tty.cmd remained afterward. It seems like shutup is doing somthing to try to protect the system by deleteing an edited system file. Other History... > Ron> There is a problem when I am logged to my RSTS/E(simh) in as > Ron> [1,2]. > > Ron> I recently have been trying to edit my tty.cmd file, I am using > Ron> teco, I edit the file making a change, I save the file with the > Ron> teco command ex$$, ($=escape). Once out of teco I type tty.cmd > Ron> to verify my changes. I then use pip to copy tty.cmd to tty.bak > Ron> and tty.old . > > Ron> Then I shutdown RSTS/E and restart - to make sure my changes > Ron> work. > > Ron> On reboot RSTS can't run tty.cmd - claims it can't even find it. > Ron> Of course the startup procedure stops at that point so a lot of > Ron> other things don't get done (loading error managers, spool > Ron> managers, batch manager and defining CCL are the main things) > > Ron> While in this state directory (run $direct) cant find tty.* none > Ron> of the tty files I copied remain.. > > Ron> I even tried saving a file named cmd.tty and it vanished too. > > Ron> I type a new tty.cmd from scratch (using teco or pip) and reboot > Ron> and now **all** of them are back. > > Ron> 8^P What's up? > > Sounds like a corrupt file structure. > > Try the "clean" option in INIT (Refresh command) at boot. > I did try this, it does not seem to help. > paul > Begin forwarded message: > From: Ron Hudson <ron.hudson(a)sbcglobal.net> > Date: September 17, 2004 10:01:06 PM PDT > To: Classic Computers <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: RSTS strange problem > Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > > Ok, > > I have repeated it again... and typed out all the files before I > rebooted - they disappeared again. > > I ran option:RES Clean then booted again. They were still gone. > > It's funny that all the files I touched disappeared.. > > Perhaps this is a clue... What is SY0: as contrast to SY: and DL0: > (all the same drive?) >

21 years, 11 months

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[Posibly OT?] Tek 321A scope needs help....

by r_beaudry＠hotmail.com

Hello all, I recently became the new owner of a Tek 321A scope, but it needs some repairs. Also, I have no manuals, so if anyone could loan me an operator's manual or service manual so I could make a copy, I'd appreciate it.... The main issue is the display. There is what I can only describe as a "cloud" that runs vertically along the center of the display. Varying the intensity and focus does vary this cloud, but it is still present. Also, the trace line is visible, but very out of focus. Wider at the edges, and narrower in the middle. I can take a picture if this makes no sense... I don't know the working condition of the scope, but it was put in a large bin for disposal. It's possible that it was just tosseed in, so it may have been banged around a bit. It seems a shame to toss this unit, as it is in pristine physical condition. The battery holders are very clean, and the unit has no dust or dirt that I can see.... If this is a common problem, or if it seems fixable, let me know what to try.... Rich B.

21 years, 11 months

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Salvaging HP Laser Jet series II

by millenniumfalcon＠cableone.net

Well, with the help from members of this list I finally got one Series II running and one not tested but saved back and two that were FUBAR. So, because I cannot bear to throw anything away all at once, kind of like the story of the three legged pig, i decided to scavenge what I could of the two Series II before pitching them. I just pitched the Series I, the 3, and the 4. I saved anything that had a wire connected to it and put all the plastic, sheet metal and gear trains into the trash on the theory that the gear trains looked tough enough to not be a failure point. I saved about half the weight and half the storage space. The fuser bulbs looked to be in good shape so I don't think they were the cause of the "50 Service" error I was getting. At least the filaments were not broken. I am assuming that this is like a halogen bulb and you don't want to touch the glass surface of the bulb. Is there a recommended cleaning procedure??? Too bad the fans are 24 volt not 115 volt. I could have used some 115 volt fans for my Kilowatt Linear I am building. Are there any parts I missed? Are there some parts I should have dumped?

21 years, 11 months

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VAX 11/780 help needed.

by pat＠computer-refuge.org

So, I've got power run now, and am trying to get the machine up and running. After I figured out what baud rate it wanted (and reset it down to 1200 baud from 1800 baud), I've been trying to figure out a problem... So, when I connect a terminal to the console port, all I can get is an address: 173002, followed by an "@" (the ODT prompt). Trying to examine the addresses using ODT fails. So, it looks like the bootstrap PROMs are not accessible for some reason. From what I see, it appears that they are actually contained on the CIB (Console Interface Board) in the KA780 CPU. Can anyone verify this, or have any suggestions what I should check? The power supply bricks all have their "POWER NORMAL" lighs on, and seemed to have a good 5V output from testing with a dummy load and DMM. Any ideas? I'm a bit stuck here. Pat -- Purdue University ITAP/RCS --- http://www.itap.purdue.edu/rcs/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org

21 years, 11 months

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Classiccmp website?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Anybody know what has happened to the Classiccmp website? I checked some of my webpages there yesterday and the files are still there but most of them are now blank! The files are NOT missing and they still have the right file size but they're blank. I just tried to access the site a few minutes agoo but now I can't even get a connection to it. I e-mailed Jay yesterday and asked him about the problems but haven't gotten a reply. Joe

21 years, 11 months

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IBM Book (VSE/ESA Performance Management and Fine Tuning) - anyone want?

by shirker＠mooli.org.uk

I found this in a book sale at a local organisation, and rescued it in case anyone's interested. If you want it, you get to pay me the 50 English pence it cost me, plus shipping from UK. It's by Bill Merrow, pub. McGraw Hill, (C) 1993. Has a flash "Includes VSE/ESA Version 1.3" on the cover. Ed.

21 years, 11 months

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Any Honeywell fans?

by dan＠ekoan.com

At a recent hamfest I picked up two sets of what appears to be Honeywell training material. Each set consists of a slide projector tray, cassette tapes, and a manual all in a fold-open case. The first set is labeled "Digital Computers and Software" and is dated 1979. It has 80 slides in the tray and comes with two cassette tapes and a booklet. The second set is labeled "Delta 1000 Control Interpreter Language" and is dated 1980. There are 46 slides in the tray and there is one cassette tape, along with a booklet. All of this stuff is marked "Honeywell Proprietary." I'm generally much more interested in HP stuff, but this looked unusual enough to pick up. Contact me off-list if you'd like more information. Cheers, Dan www.decodesystems.com/wanted.html

21 years, 11 months

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Osborne 1

by ddl＠danlan.com

To answer a few questions that have been asked about the Osborne 1: -I'm not asking anything for it, but neither will I spring for shipping and packing. I expect this could be expensive. I am not willing to deal with international shipping at all. -I'm in Gloucester, MA. Pickup would of course be best. -It worked last I played with it, but that was 15+ years ago. -The latches are on the sides. And to answer some questions that have not been asked: -The original user's manual is included. -There are a number of disks, but no originals. -I believe it has the double density controller.

21 years, 11 months

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Panasonic FDD number decode?

by cfandt＠netsync.net

Has anyone information on decoding the model number suffix on a Panasonic 3.5" floppy drive? The number is JU-257-14PF. I was told it was a 720K drive when I bought it some time ago but it seems to act like a 1.44MB unit. Need to confirm as I want a 720K for an industrial OS-9/68K system I'm thinking of dragging out of storage. Controller only talks 720K. Controllers in PC's use connector pin two, IIRC, to select lo/hi density. Is my drive selectable by internal jumpers for 720k only/1.44MB only (and is there such a drive available in general)? I don't care to hack the hardware on my nice OS-9 system just to make something work. I can find 900+ hits on Google at this moment for the JU-257. Several different suffixes are shown and many indicate 1.44MB capacity. There's but only one with the -14PF suffix which appears in the search under the inventory of Searchlight Tech.com site. No descriptive help there. Methinks this is in fact a HD drive instead of the desired 720K and I was, basically, ripped off. Neither Matsushita nor Panasonic website searches yield anything on even "JU-257". Long obsolete, evidently. Thanks for your help. -Chris F. NNNN Christian Fandt, Electronic/Electrical Historian Jamestown, NY USA cfandt(a)netsync.net Member of Antique Wireless Association URL: http://www.antiquewireless.org/

21 years, 11 months

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toking ring adaptor

by williams.dan＠gmail.com

I saw this on ebay if anyone is interested : http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1486&item=57204386… Dan

21 years, 11 months

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2114 Static RAMs...

by melamy＠earthlink.net

at least it was CMOS versions of TTL logic... -----Original Message----- From: Tom Jennings <tomj(a)wps.com> Sent: Sep 17, 2004 5:20 PM To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only" <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> Cc: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Subject: RE: 2114 Static RAMs... On Wed, 2004-09-15 at 11:16, Ed Kelleher wrote: > At 05:00 PM 9/13/2004, you wrote: > >When I was designing I/O boards for spaceborne computers I once saw > >what happens when most inputs are left floating on CMOS designs. This > >was a design full of (~30) 54HCxx ICs. > gak! 54xx IC's -- No wonder the space program cost so much! And running TTL off batteries! Ouch!

21 years, 11 months

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Guess what the hurricane(s) left behind!

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I will be happy to pass on the SW when I get to it, and to all also.. ISIS should run on the 330, too. The 330s origianlly were 8086 SBC with separate disk controllers for the HD and 8" Floppy. The 330 had a Priam 3450 *" HD (30 meg) and a DSDD 8" floppy and a 6 slot backplane. My 380 has a 286 SBC with a 14 slot backplane in one box and the HD, floppy and a tape drive in a second same size box.Twin 50 pin cables interconnect. The combo HD, Floppy and tape card is the 214 I think. There is usually a console port on the SBC. Other serial IO was on other cards. The hard drives have a manual parking lever. If it is not set do it immediatly. I would love to hear what the configuration of them is. The SBC board numbers had a slash number. 86/30, 286/10. The 320 is multibus II isn't it? A VME type connector (but not the same pin configuration). Paxton

21 years, 11 months

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Commodore PET disk drive power-up error codes

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

>> [If it is a 2114, it will be the second one I've found dead in PET hardware >> over the past month - other was was video RAM in a 4032] > >FWIW, I've had _lots_ of 2114s fail. I had to replace all of them in my >8050 (IIRC, if you hvave multiple RAM errors, you get the flash code for >the lowest bank first, then when you've replaced those you get the code >for the next bank, and so on...). I had to replace the video RAMs in my >TRS-80 Model 3. And the RAM in my HP82163 video interface. And more... > >In my experiece the 2114 is one of the least reliable chips ever... I've seen a few other ones fail as well - funny, I used a LOT of 2114s in my early building (at 4 bits each - way less wire-wrapping than 2102s). Never had any trouble with them at the time, however they do not seem to age well... Btw, it is an 8050, and replacing those two chips did fix it. [Naturally, the one I pulled first was not the defective one] Regards, -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

21 years, 11 months

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Nigerian scams

by Innfogra＠aol.com

This is a new variation of a scam. I have gotten two on my posting of my HP 110 outfit on the HP Museum classified ads that I mentioned earlier. Both wanted me to name a price, they did not care what it was. One wanted to send me a certified check for over the amount with me rebating them the overage. This is the letter I mentioned on the list. The other wanted to buy anything else I had and would pay me with a credit card. All they were going to provide was the credit card number and the expriation date. There was a strong implication they would pay an inflated price. It was an open invitation to Fraud and I reported it to Yahoo where the offer came from. It was interesting that they would make arrangements for the equipment to be picked up. A news story on the local TV told a story of a T Shirt company that got an offer similar to purchase the 9000 T shirts and paid with two credit cards. One went through but the other bounced and the owner of the business found out it was fraud before he shipped it, overseas. However. The people that ordered, when they did not get their T-Shirts, threatened violence against the owner if he did not ship, several times. I think it best not to respond to such offers, and report them to their apparent (but usually not real) source. I think it is important to report all Fraud to the internet providors. Paxton Astoria PS I was concerned that I got two fraud offers directly related to my posting of the HP110 on the HP Museum Classified ads. It shows that thre are many people out there trolling collectable computer and calculator sales with the intent to defraud.

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Super DEC finda today.

by edward＠groenenberg.net

The URL in my previous message is not complete, the correct one is : http://www.groenenberg.net/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album14 Ed -- edward(a)groenenberg.net | Collector of PDP-11's. http://www.groenenberg.net | Politici zijn vieze oplichters. Unix Lives! M$ Windows is crap. '97 TL1000S

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I don't believe it!!! Jeanne

by cb＠mythtech.net

>For some reason I just don't trust Disney any more as the >company is too $%^! much like M$ now days. I'm curious if that will change when Eisner leaves (2006, he formally announced he will be leaving when his contract expires). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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I don't believe it!!! Jeanne

by trash3＠splab.cas.neu.edu

I am in Port Charlotte with the American Red Cross and the damage around here is unbelievable. I went last weekend to visit the In-laws in Boca Raton on the east coast of Florida and there is quite a bit of damage there as well. Red Cross is scrambling for volunteers and is trying to shuffle equipment around. It is beyond comprehension for me on just how Red Cross can possibly keep up. Yes, Florida is getting slammed this year. Joe Heck

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I don't believe it!!! Jeanne

by cb＠mythtech.net

>The >question is not so much is this year anomolus in terms of history, but >rather the start of a long term trend [think of the impact on the economy >down there if it is.....] Humm... you mean Disney might actually have to make Walt's EPCOT dream a reality and have a fully enclosed theme park? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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by cb＠mythtech.net

><< Humm... you mean Disney might actually have to make Walt's EPCOT dream >a reality and have a fully enclosed theme park? >> > >In 1967, Walt Disney (after his death) presented on TV his original >concept of what EPCOT (Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow) was >to be and it in no way resembled what EPCOT is today. It was not to be a >theme park, or more accurately a permanent World's Fair. Instead, it was >actually a city with approximately 20,000 citizens. The central >core/shopping/office district was to be inclosed by a dome, and the rest >of the "city" extended away from it in a wagon wheel style of monorails >and streets. I have this presentation on DVD from Disney's Treasures >collection. > >For more, see: http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MA98/hogan/celebration/epcot.htm Yeah we learned all about this in Disney Brainwashing... er... um, "Traditions" (the intro to Disney class they put all the college interns thru). >From what I understood (last time I asked friends that still work for Disney, which was a while back), Celebration is (was?) a borderline cesspool of high crime and bad neighbors. So I guess that would make it a successful failure? -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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by MTPro＠aol.com

Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 12:40:43 -0400 From: chris <cb(a)mythtech.net> << Humm... you mean Disney might actually have to make Walt's EPCOT dream a reality and have a fully enclosed theme park? >> In 1967, Walt Disney (after his death) presented on TV his original concept of what EPCOT (Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow) was to be and it in no way resembled what EPCOT is today. It was not to be a theme park, or more accurately a permanent World's Fair. Instead, it was actually a city with approximately 20,000 citizens. The central core/shopping/office district was to be inclosed by a dome, and the rest of the "city" extended away from it in a wagon wheel style of monorails and streets. I have this presentation on DVD from Disney's Treasures collection. For more, see: http://xroads.virginia.edu/~MA98/hogan/celebration/epcot.htm Best, David

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Rescue of a life-time.. or the year at the very least.

by aek＠spies.com

The ride home brought us right through rush-hour traffic on Chicago's loop (I-90/94) -- For future reference to people heading west from Wisconsin... DO NOT go through Chicago! Take I 43 down to I-90 east, then I-39 to I-88 (the old East-West Tollway) which connects to I-80 at the IL-IA boarder. --al (who's made the trip TOO many times)

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I don't believe it!!! Jeanne

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Joe Yes. It is telling you to leave Florida to the gators and bugs. Dwight >From: "Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > > Damm! We took a direct hit with hurricane Charlie. Then a NEAR miss >with hurricane Frances. (It took 4 1/2 > DAYS < to pass through!) Then >another narrow miss with hurricane Ivan. I just looked at the weather >forecast and now there's another one headed this way! Hurricane Jeanne is >expected to hit the east coast of Florida around Monday. Is somebody trying >to tell us something? > > Joe >

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by cb＠mythtech.net

> Damm! We took a direct hit with hurricane Charlie. Then a NEAR miss >with hurricane Frances. (It took 4 1/2 > DAYS < to pass through!) Then >another narrow miss with hurricane Ivan. I just looked at the weather >forecast and now there's another one headed this way! Hurricane Jeanne is >expected to hit the east coast of Florida around Monday. Is somebody trying >to tell us something? One of the reports I was reading claimed that this is supposed to be the norm for the Florida area, and that you have just been lucky for the last few decades and haven't really had as many storms as you should have. But then, who trusts anything the weather service has to say :-) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Interesting article on UCSD Pascal team annual reunion

by jfoust＠threedee.com

http://alumni.ucsd.edu/magazine/vol1no3/features/pascal.htm - John

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Digital Alchemy - The Ultimate Emulator?

by whdawson＠localisps.net

FWIW "A startup claims it has created software that lets programs run on any operating system?and any processor?without slowing down. Is the hype for real this time?" http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/04/09/wo_hellweg091704.asp?p=0 or http://tinyurl.com/3l3px

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more RSTS/E strangeness....

by ron.hudson＠sbcglobal.net

ooh no it's that Hudson fellow again. Someone take his PDP 11 away, he don't know how to use it.. There is a problem when I am logged to my RSTS/E(simh) in as [1,2]. I recently have been trying to edit my tty.cmd file, I am using teco, I edit the file making a change, I save the file with the teco command ex$$, ($=escape). Once out of teco I type tty.cmd to verify my changes. I then use pip to copy tty.cmd to tty.bak and tty.old . Then I shutdown RSTS/E and restart - to make sure my changes work. On reboot RSTS can't run tty.cmd - claims it can't even find it. Of course the startup procedure stops at that point so a lot of other things don't get done (loading error managers, spool managers, batch manager and defining CCL are the main things) While in this state directory (run $direct) cant find tty.* none of the tty files I copied remain.. I even tried saving a file named cmd.tty and it vanished too. I type a new tty.cmd from scratch (using teco or pip) and reboot and now **all** of them are back. 8^P What's up? I think I need a nice RSTS/E boot camp.

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Guess what the hurricane(s) left behind!

by aek＠spies.com

I found five of these in the same area a couple of years ago but they were missing the hard drive and there was no hope of finding the OS for them so I eventually scrapped them -- Was this before I found the copy of iRMX86 on eBay?

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