- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by Pres＠macro-inc.com

Just got the below inquiry in. Wonder if Pakistan has same problems as India? Seems legit. But if they found me, they must be scrapping the bottom of the barrel. The only things I have on the list is 1 LPV11 and some DHV11's. I'm not going to do anything with it if anyone else wants to, knock yourself out (go for it, have a ball, have a go, [insert local idiom here] etc. etc. <g>). Ed K. ------------------------------------- Hi I need the following. 1. DECserver 250 (DSRVP-AA) 05 Nos Pls confirm, is any software driver required for DECserver 250, if yes then pls do provide the price for this driver too) 2. DESTA 05 Nos 3. DS-RZ40-VA 9.1 GB SCSI Hard Disk 22 Nos 4. DS-RZ1EA-VW 18 GB SCSI Hard Disk 12 Nos 5. TLZ 10 (Internal) Tape Drive 12/24 GB 10 Nos 6. TLZ 7 (Internal) Tape Drive 8/12 GB 04 Nos 7. Communication Cable to connect DECServer 250 with LP29 5 Nos. (BC27A 30 Ft Cable) 8. M 3104 DHV11 03 Nos 9. M 8027 LPV11 03 Nos 10. TF 85 tape drive 04 Nos 11. 90L Terminal server 05 Nos Will appreciate ur early reply. Best rgds Muneeb Saeed Rabbani 117, Ahmed Block, New Garden Town Lahore, Pakistan Phone NO. 92 42 5842226 & 7 FAX 92 42 5842228 E-mail: <mailto:muneebsaeedr@yahoo.com>muneebsaeedr(a)yahoo.com <mailto:trojans@wol.net.pk>trojans(a)wol.net.pk

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FW: Rescue...

by Pres＠macro-inc.com

At 10:01 PM 10/14/2004, you wrote: >The bad news, if that I try to keep it, I will lose the wife. Without >debating the merits of this trade, let me just say that it will not be good >financially <grin> > >So....What do I do????? Road Trip!! Ed K.

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FW: Rescue...

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

\ Looks like I may be doing a rescue of the following in Eastern Conn.... It is a VAX 6000/610. 2 cabinets, approx 1000 lbs total weight. 2 CPU CMD Technologies DSSI controller ethernet capable comes with up to a dozen 2 gig drives( formatted) covers for the empty drive bays pretty sure that it is 208 volt single phase, although the drive cabinet has a 120v 30 amp twist lock connector on the cable. I dont know if this plugs into the CPU cabinets PSU or what. VMS docs and manuals The bad news, if that I try to keep it, I will lose the wife. Without debating the merits of this trade, let me just say that it will not be good financially <grin> So....What do I do?????

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FW: Rescue...

by zmerch＠30below.com

Rumor has it that David V. Corbin may have mentioned these words: > >The bad news, if that I try to keep it, I will lose the wife. Without >debating the merits of this trade, let me just say that it will not be good >financially <grin> > >So....What do I do????? 1) where do you live 2) do you already have someone else to take it? (or at least parts of it) 3) how long will your wife believe you when you say "I already have someone else to take it!" ;-) If it's a temporary rescue, it'll help others to know where you are... Depending on the circumstances (distance, timeframe, etc.) I /might/ be able to ferry parts of it from point A to point B for another list member... If it doesn't need to be covered/trailered, that would greatly improve distance calculations... I didn't get a chance to repack my trailer bearings this fall... :-/ Laterz, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers zmerch(a)30below.com What do you do when Life gives you lemons, and you don't *like* lemonade?????????????

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FW: Rescue...

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

>The bad news, if that I try to keep it, I will lose the wife. Without >debating the merits of this trade, let me just say that it will not be good >financially <grin> > >So....What do I do????? It sounds pretty simple to me, don't go. Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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ecommerce and shopping carts

by akb+lists.cctech＠imap1.mirror.to

I got contacted by an attorney looking for prior art on ecommerce and shopping carts, especially web-based stuff; a bunch of lawyers ended up with the OpenMarket patents and is trying to shake everyone down, ala SCO. Amazon, among others, are working on busting the patent. The two early events I know of are: June-July of '94 my company (Bibliobytes/HKS.net) released "OrderBook", which was basically a front end that would let you enter some SKU's and credit card info and would email us an encrypted copy of the order to be processed and fufilled. You got the SKUs from a catalog downloaded seperately from a web page, by ftp, or whatever. Around August 2004, NetMarket, a startup done by four guys from Swarthmore, started selling CDs over the web. Anyone know of any other shopping-cart and/or automatic payment systems that were up and running or publically described before October of '94? --akb

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Vintage calculator question...

by news＠computercollector.com

Hey folks... this isn't REALLY off-topic because, as everyone knows by now, I only collect calculators that also have PDA functions... i.e. computers. My latest find is a Sharp EL-8160, circa 1978/1979. This isn't the "first" PDA, but it's still a (very) early example. I can make it display letters on the screen, but I can't figure out how to make it save the data. I know the function works because, when it came in the mail and I turned it on, there was some former owner's memo on the screen! Does anyone have, or did anyone once own, a Sharp EL-8160? If so I could use a manual or some help. - Evan (PS -- I sent this message from the wrong email address just now, so please accept my apology if it also appears on this list from evan947@yahoo) ===== Tell your friends about the Computer Collector E-mail Newsletter! -- It's free and we'll never send spam or share your email address -- Publishing every Monday(-ish), ask about writing for us -- Mainframes to videogames, hardware and software, we cover it all Visit the museums directory and read about past events at our web site: http://news.computercollector.com Contact us at news(a)computercollector.com 570 readers and counting!

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Vintage calculator question...

by evan947＠yahoo.com

Hey folks... this isn't REALLY off-topic because, as everyone knows by now, I only collect calculators that also have PDA functions... i.e. computers. My latest find is a Sharp EL-8160, circa 1978/1979. This isn't the "first" PDA, but it's still a (very) early example. I can make it display letters on the screen, but I can't figure out how to make it save the data. I know the function works because, when it came in the mail and I turned it on, there was some former owner's memo on the screen! Does anyone have, or did anyone once own, a Sharp EL-8160? If so I could use a manual or some help. - Evan ===== Tell your friends about the Computer Collector E-mail Newsletter! -- It's free and we'll never send spam or share your email address -- Publishing every Monday(-ish), ask about writing for us -- Mainframes to videogames, hardware and software, we cover it all Visit the museums directory and read about past events at our web site: http://news.computercollector.com Contact us at news(a)computercollector.com 570 readers and counting!

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classiccmp server hardware

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I said I'd look at what is in there, here's the scoop. Boom 1U case, room for MB, PS, many fans, two HD's, slimline floppy and slimline CD, and a single PCI card ASUS TUSI-M motherboard Intel Celeron 1.2ghz, 256K cache, 100mhz FSB (2) 512mb low profile SDR DIMMS Mitsumi SR243T1 slim cd Citizen OSDA-39D floppy drive (heavily modified with a dremel tool to fit right) 20gb PATA drive for OS 160gb PATA drive for data, list, websites, etc. The motherboard ide controller is ATA100 or 133, I forget which. Before you snivel at the hardware... the classiccmp server doesn't NEED to be extremely fast and seems to do just fine with the horsepower it has. Of course that's because it runs FreeBSD (trolling). The end-goal here is reliability in case of drive failure. I see two options. I could get an additional 160HD, a Promise raid 1 card, and a riser card (think I already have one). Then the OS & data would be on one 160gb drive and we'd mirror to the other 160gb. This is the cheapest option. The other option would be using a motherboard with built-in raid. This would involve replacing the motherboard, the memory, and the cpu. Perhaps the power supply too, which may or may not mean a new case.... I would still need to buy another 160gb drive. Definitely a lot more expensive. Plus since it's an older 1U case, trying to find a motherboard that fit it just right may be troublesome with boards being sent back cause they dont fit, etc. Plus the frustration of trying to make sure the newer/faster processor heatsink and fan would fit into the 1U case, which can sometimes be impossible. In the event that the server runs out of horsepower, if we go the first route, we wouldn't have lost any investment cause we'd still be able to use the two 160gb PATA drives. The only money wasted would be on the promise RAID controller. So, my vote would be to go with another 160gb, riser card, and promise raid 1 card. But I'm open to any and all options. Theres about $200 or so in the kitty right now for the server. I'd love some input, mayber there's options I haven't thought of. Regards, Jay West

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[Simh] Request for Reccomendations - Telnet

by cdl＠mpl.ucsd.edu

> From: Ron Hudson <ron.hudson(a)sbcglobal.net> > Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 13:24:39 -0700 > Subject: [Simh] Request for Reccomendations - Telnet > > I need a macintosh telnet (either OS X or OS 9 ) to connect to my > PDP11 simulator. I have tried the simulator that comes with OS X, > and another called iTerm. Both are ok for most stuff but don't work > well for vt50dpy, an RSTS system status monitor. This does work well > on the HP terminal I have (while its emulating a vt100.) Let me suggest C-Kermit < http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ > which is available for OS X. It does an excellent vt100 emulation, and also does telnet and other protocols. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenst(a)ucsd.edu

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Further on India shipping (on topic)

by jpl15＠panix.com

In 2000 we bought an SGI Onyx on eBay, for about $2K - from a reseller, checked out, warranted, with doc and OS... all Ok. Had it crated and shipped air-freight. First thing Customs wanted was "Chartered Engineer's Certificate" on the thing, then the original (not copies!) invoices and sales orders for the machine and the various software packages. Now: the US does not have "Chartered Engineers" - this is a European position, and roughly equates with a certified technical appraiser. I managed to get hold of a report from a chartered engineer in Germany (for a piston-ring grinding machine) and doctored it up, then sent it to my freind in the US who is an appraiser... who sent it back. No signatures, nothing really official, but still Customs insisted on it. We told them that the machine was used and had been refurbished, and that finding the original sales invoices was impossible. They then spent a month 'researching' it - and got back to us with the inofrmation that they found that similarly-configured machines had sold new for about $345,000. So they happily informed us that the duties would be 70% of new cost. Ya'll can do the Math.... It took six months of back-and-forth negotiations, recriminations, calling in favors, bribes, etc... the unit was finally valued at $14,000 and they said we could pay 70% of that or they'd seize the machine for non-payment and scrap it, and charge us for the storage and paperwork involved. So we ended up paying $11,800 plus shipping for an already-old Onyx. This goes on every day there - one of the reasons that there is very little electronic 'surplus' or flea-markets - everyone simply fixes and maintains whatever they have for the longest possible time, rather than pay the price on new gear which includes the awful duties. This was originally instituted by the Indian Government in the late 40's - early 50's as a way to stimulate the infrastructure to produce and be competitive, but of course you know who *that* turned out.. Cheers John

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Scam? (was: FW: Binary Dinosaurs incoming mail!)

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Adrian Graham" <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk> > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org >> [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of John Lawson >> Sent: 14 October 2004 19:10 >> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts >> Subject: Re: Scam? (was: FW: Binary Dinosaurs incoming mail!) >> >> This floated around the list last year - guy's in India >> and the Customs duties alone will make this impossible, not >> to mention the shipping for an HP 9trk tape drive (what he >> calls a 'spool disk'). A couple of us corresponded with this >> individual... I don't think it's a scam, I do think Rajatji >> is a bit clue-impaired... > >Ah, OK. It may be that he's not clue-impaired but just thinks you lot are >having him on about the shipping costs :) > >cheers > >w > > Hi It is US manufactured. I'm not sure why there are duties on it. Shipping is an issue. Dwight

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Scam? (was: FW: Binary Dinosaurs incoming mail!)

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Hi folks, Got this in my inbox today, is it one of the scams I've seen others here get? If not, all you HP collectors now have this guy's details! cheers :) a ------------------------------------------------------------ Binary Dinosaurs incoming mail from: Rajat Kakkar (rajatkakkar(a)rediffmail.com ) on October 14th, 2004 at 04:05PM (BST). Respected Sir / Madam, I am having a Spool Disk Drive of HP (Model : 7970E) belonging to yesteryears, had been purchased and stored by me for past 6-7 years but, I am not able to store it further, hence, anyone desirous of preserving it for future, please feel free to contact me at your convenience. Specifications of the machine are --- Name : HP 7970E Make : HP (Hewlett Packard) , USA Model : 7970 E Tape Speed : 45 IPS Option : 015/088/151 Further details 230V AC 400V AC Max 48 - 66 Hz 233 Watts Quantity - 1 No. Price - US $ 100 + transportation charges, excise, tax as applicable. My contact details are - Rajat Kakkar, 70 - B, DDA Flats, Gulabi Bagh, Delhi - 110 007, India Ph. : 91-11-23655131 Mobile : 91-011-9868209805 E-mail : rajatkakkar(a)rediffmail.com Waiting for your reply. Thanking You, Regards Rajat Kakkar

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Masscomp machines

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Anyone out there got any info on Masscomp machines (or own one)? I found one the other day at BP (in something of a sorry state) but info on the 'net seems pretty scarce. Rumour has it that they ran some flavour of real-time Unix, and that multi-cpu machines were available - that's about all the good ol' Internet has to offer, at least according to Google. This particular one doesn't have a model number on the front, but the sticker on the back implies it's a 'mwb515'. I'm particularly after a keyboard photo right now - I've got the system unit and monitor, but there's no keyboard with it. Hopefully it's either in the 'unknown keyboards' pile or has been accidentally tidied away in a different pile of hardware :-) Hmm, it presumably has a mouse too, which presumably plugs into the keyboard as I didn't see an obvious mouse port on the back of the machine. cheers, Jules

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(Fwd) FW: UCSD Pascal Reunion Symposium 10/22

by aek＠spies.com

Sellam, any chance you can get down there to try to talk to the people about archived versions of the UCSD software?

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MIT CADR simulation (for the uber nerds..)

by aek＠spies.com

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lispmachines/message/116

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BA213 PSU conversion

by lists＠microvax.org

Hi I've got a US-version BA213 that I intend to run with two UK PSUs i've got. I think the PSUs are drop-in replacements, but do I need to change the line filter on the bottom-left too, and is there any other 110V-working stuff left in the machine? TIA Alex/melt

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Request for Reccomendations - Telnet

by ron.hudson＠sbcglobal.net

I need a macintosh telnet (either OS X or OS 9 ) to connect to my PDP11 simulator. I have tried the simulator that comes with OS X, and another called iTerm. Both are ok for most stuff but don't work well for vt50dpy, an RSTS system status monitor. This does work well on the HP terminal I have (while its emulating a vt100.)

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8279 Datasheet

by fjkraan＠xs4all.nl

> I'm looking for a datasheet for an 8279 chip (Keyboard / LED > controller), I > haven't found anything useful on the net. A PDF of the original Intel > datasheet would be preferred. > Thanks > -Neil See http://electrickery.xs4all.nl/comp/divcomp/8279.pdf for a short three page datasheet. From the 1981 Intel Component Data Catalog. Fred Jan Kraan

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Commodore 1280?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

Hi, >From Colima Mexico. I am down at my dentist and around the corner is a computer repair shop. On the top shelf is a dirty Commodore 1280 sitting on its side. (Or might it be a 128D?, I seem to remember something like that) What is it? Is it of any interest, enough for me to check it out and try to bring it home on the airplane. Paxton Astoria, Oregon near where St. Helens is erupting now in Colima Mexico where Volcan Colima is erupting. Fun times.

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So Far it's been a GREAT week for the collection

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

On Monday night I picked up a IBM 029 Keypunch at the airport loading dock that had been donated and shipped from Colorado. Last night I went to give a presentation about the museum and the president of the group I spoke to gave me a Altair 8800 Rev. A. The SN is 220862K and he also gave me 3 Mits cards. On Tuesday I also got a call from a guy wanting to donate some items and will meet with him Thursday evening. Saturday I have to drive about 200 miles from Houston to pick up a complete S/34 with tons of manuals plus a IBM model 548 card interpreter. Lots of new toys to play with. :-)

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Commodore PET 4032 problem (4 beeps)

by frank.palazzolo＠mcm1.com

Stan, FWIW - The one I bought on eBay worked for a few minutes and then blew the 12v regulator on the video board. After that - no video or raster. I replaced it and it's worked fine ever since. I'm still not sure why it failed - the 12V regulator tends to run pretty warm/hot based on the circuit, but I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it. -Frank

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DEC 11/93 in BA23 ?

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Hi Fred, check www.pdp-11.nl and click on the link ?PDP-11/93 in the menu at the left hand side ... that's all I have on this thingie. I don't have it anymore; sold to buy an 11/70 (which I considered a nice swap as I am sort of more UNIBUS-minded). - Henk, PA8PDP > -----Original Message----- > From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org > [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Fred N. van Kempen > Sent: woensdag 13 oktober 2004 17:14 > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: DEC 11/93 in BA23 ? > > > Hi all, > > If there's someone on the list with a MicroPDP-11/93 (meaning, the > 11/93 in the BA23 chassis), can you please contact me off-list? > > I have one, but the "back panel" is missing... I do have the cab > kit itself, but that doesn't fit in the regular BA23 backpanel, so > the /93 must have had a custom one. I need to see what it looks > like :) > > Thankee, > > Fred > -- > Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) > Collector/Archivist > Visit the VAXlab Project at > http://VAXlab.pdp11.nl/ > Visit the Archives at > http://www.pdp11.nl/ > Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Mountain > View, CA, USA >

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DEC 11/93 in BA23 ?

by waltje＠pdp11.nl

Hi all, If there's someone on the list with a MicroPDP-11/93 (meaning, the 11/93 in the BA23 chassis), can you please contact me off-list? I have one, but the "back panel" is missing... I do have the cab kit itself, but that doesn't fit in the regular BA23 backpanel, so the /93 must have had a custom one. I need to see what it looks like :) Thankee, Fred -- Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist Visit the VAXlab Project at http://VAXlab.pdp11.nl/ Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/ Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Mountain View, CA, USA

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finding the right name for a connector

by cb＠mythtech.net

>> original iMac. Its the power connector. It looks similar to an ATX >> connector, but it is smaller and has more pins. > >Google of 'imac power connector' turns up a lot of hits. Yes, many many hits, alas none that say what the connector is. They are all how to hack in an ATX power supply, but they all expect you to have a connector you can salvage from a dead iMac... I lack that part. So I'm trying to track down what this thing is called, so I can buy a replacement. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Onyx C8002: pictures of the boards available now (FTP)

by cheri-post＠web.de

Hello all, thanks to der Mouse, the pictures are available under: ftp.rodents.montreal.qc.ca/pub/cheri/ If anybody could check out the DIP Switch settings ?? I could verify the status of the LEDs either, if this helps. Just drop in an email. There are two identical memory boards. The one scanned is the first, that's why the two terminators are missing . The other memory board at the end of the bus has these terminators. Switch settings are different, apparently to set an ID. Remember, I have no documentain, but it would be worth to compare the settings of the switches and LEDs with a working unit ! Thanks in advance for any help ! Pierre ________________________________________________________________ Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! Jetzt neu bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://freemail.web.de/?mc=021193

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Need 3-4 Psion Series 5 handhelds for VCF

by vcf＠siconic.com

I'm in need of 3-4 Psion Series 5 for the upcoming VCF. They're to be used as portable terminals for the judges to use in scoring exhibits. I'm trying to source them for under US$50 each. eBay has been OK and I've gotten a couple from there already but most keep going for over $50 each and my budget won't allow me to go higher. Does anyone have any for sale, or know of where I can get some for under US$50? I don't care if they are ugly or if certain non-critical parts are broken (i.e. broken doors, latches, etc.) As long as it powers up, the screen works, and the CF slot works then I'll be happy (of course I'll want to pay less for such units). Ideas? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Structured design SD 20

by wizardfz＠earthlink.net

Just roaming around the internet and ran across your thread---- Structured Design: I have an SD 20/24 s/n 2197 ------ bought it new at my old company in 1986, I believe-- It has been in a locker for about 15 years----and yeah, no software that I could find, as of late --my company is "gone", but I have the unit---- Works??? on powerup--busy light for a few milliseconds and then a green pass light----- it hasnt been abused---or even used, in years---i.e."good shape" 24 pin ZIF socket, --you guys are talking about a 20 pin unit, I think?--- 3 buttons ---verify, load , program 3 LED's busy, fail, pass We did lots of GAL's on it---- 20V10 series, I have original GAL handbook, from Lattice also we started doing hundreds of 16L8's and such from MMI, as well, back in 1986,7,8 and then went to the GAL's when they became "the thing"--- The hardware design changes were killing us in the early project phase--we burnt up 200 at a time with a particular minor hardware rev. and I also have *** 18 "magnetic wafers" --- for the drive, in the unit and *** "original" PALASM 4 (from AMD) on 5 floppys, version 1.1a-- I checked, and all read "a directory structure" ---2 thru 5 are all ZIP files and a pile of PAL's,GALS, EPLD's which were from various sources---a lot of optical reprogrammable---samsung some bigger than 24 pins, etc--I believe none are programmed, but I can't assure myself a few of the non-opticals are not used--- and, so they may not all apply to this programmer, obviously greater than 24 pins in some cases---- anyone interested? Also--- Brand spanking new (old stock)----- still in the box, in the plastic bag: Spectronics Spectroline PE-14T UV EPROM eraser with the slideout tray for devices "size of a carton of cigarettes" Looks like it was never turned on---so I did --timer 1 hour -----works, UV lamp ------works, Pull out drawer, UV turns off----works? no holes in the black foam pad--couldnt have been used and the original tech bulletin which tells you info on use of unit---energies of erasure, etc we bought 2 in 1986 and sent the second one (this one) into the stock room, as a spare, and I found it in cleaning the shelves when we shut the doors-in 2001---- Also , B+C Microsystems 1409-PL.8 EPROM Programmer--open frameunit----- version 10 firmware ---------40 and 28 pin ZIF sockets version 10.0 on 5 1/4 floppy for DOS and version 3.2 on 3 1/2 for mac drivers Program light blinks 4 times on powerup--i.e. passes selftest---- And "The Book"--technical manual for the unit--build info--schematics It also does all those 87xx smart controllers and , of course, 2716--->27011 See BYTE magazine article MAY 1986, page 279 for info and again, a pile of EPROMS with windows-----25,7----> 16, 32, 64, 256, 512, 1024 value--->???? I dont know--make me an offer? Im a heavy duty Test Equipment designer guy, at this point---- excuse me for rambling-- any interest send me an email to: wizardfz(a)earthlink.net

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BIG! TK70

by Pres＠macro-inc.com

At 05:39 PM 10/12/2004, you wrote: >They revised the information. And Canceled the auction.... Yeah, I sent them a note asking for a picture of those "whopper tape cartridges" they must have been using <g> and the link. They appreciated it. Some folks on eBay don't have any sense of humor about those things. Ed K.

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BIG! TK70

by Pres＠macro-inc.com

"Digital Electronics Model TK70 10/20 gb Internal DLT Tape Drive w/ mounting rails and 5 Tapes. " I'd like to see the size of them tapes! And they tested it too!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=39978&item=512923927… (TK70 holds maybe 290MB per cartridge) Nice link to DEC tape history... http://learning.quantum.com/demo/history.htm Ed K.

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classiccmp server hardware

by jfoust＠threedee.com

Has anyone mentioned that if the OS or hardware or horrid software goes astray and writes crap all over the disk, RAID doesn't save you but the 'periodic rsync' approach does? - John

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Anyone got a PC Server with P/390 card?

by vcf＠siconic.com

I have a friend looking for an IBM PC Server (see specific models below) with a P/390 card and OS to play around with. Has anyone got one for trade? He's not in a position to shell out cash but he is in a position to trade you something tasty in return. If you've got anything, please contact me directly and I'll put you in touch with said friend. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:11:03 GMT To: sellam(a)vintage.org Subject: IBM Warez Hey Sellam, The IBM things I am looking for are: PC Server 500 (8641-MYF) with p/390 card + p/390 software PC Server 520 (8641-MD2) with p/390 card + p/390 software PC Server 320 (8640-MYR) with p/390 card + p/390 software PC Server 330 (8640-ES2) with p/390 card + p/390 software PC Server 330 (8640-PB0) with p/390 card + p/390 software Or Heaven Forbid someone has an S/390 Integrated Server they don't need (if I see them come in for recycling I figure it's ok to ask people for :P ) I can't believe I let an Integrated Server AND a pc server 500 with p/390 slip by me at the old warehouse. Arrrggghhh. -chris

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TRS-80 (IV) help?

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

Hi Tony, >My guess is that it's not talking properly to the 1793 disk controller >chip. I have had this chip fail :-(. But you might start by checking the >power supply (there's a second PSU board in disk units, mounted on the >side of the drive tower, which supplies the disk controller board and >drives). And then check and re-check that ribbon cable. I have determined that it is indeed the 1793 disk controller chip ... I borrowed one from another system, and as soon as I powered up, I heard the floppy seek to track 0 - stuffed in a boot disk and it booted right up... I agree :-( .. I don't have a spare 1793. Does anyone have an extra Western Digital 1793 (or compatible) FDC kicking around? Bare on on a board (I've got a good desoldering station) ??? Regards, Dave -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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LF: Western Digital 1793 or compatible FDC chip

by tuban＠cisco.com

Hi Dave, You can still buy 1793s new from BGMicro for $4.49. Look on page 8 of their catalog: http://www.bgmicro.com/pdf/catalog.pdf Cheers! --tom At 02:34 PM 10/12/2004 -0400, you wrote: >I have determined that the problem with my TRS-80 Model IV is a bad >disk controller chip... > >Unfortunately I don't have a spare - does anyone here have an extra >Western Digital 1793 (or compatible) FDC chip? > >I have no trouble sucking it off of a board if necessary. > >Am located near Ottawa, Ontario Canada, but will pay shipping costs >from "most anywhere". > >Regards, >Dave >-- >dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield >dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com >com Vintage computing equipment collector. > http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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LF: Western Digital 1793 or compatible FDC chip

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

I have determined that the problem with my TRS-80 Model IV is a bad disk controller chip... Unfortunately I don't have a spare - does anyone here have an extra Western Digital 1793 (or compatible) FDC chip? I have no trouble sucking it off of a board if necessary. Am located near Ottawa, Ontario Canada, but will pay shipping costs >from "most anywhere". Regards, Dave -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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ICL Quattro monitor needed in the UK

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Hi folks, Had a mail from someone in the UK who's looking for said monitor since his has died and the system it's connected to is still in use for archive stuff. Writeups for the machine suggest that any monitor could be used but I asked him to forward some pictures and it's not a standard monitor - the keyboard plugs into it as well as there being 2x DB25 serial connectors for inputs (and I guess outputs for the keyboard).. If anyone's got a spare he's called John Charters and he's at jcharters(a)inductotherm.co.uk. I can forward on the pictures he's sent if it'll be of any help. Ta! -- Adrian/Witchy Owner/Curator of Binary Dinosaurs, quite probably the UK's biggest private home computer collection www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online museum www.aaghverts.co.uk - *the* site for advert whinges! www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - former gothic shenanigans :(

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Polymorphic Systems

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Oops! Bob Bybee was the editor of the PolyLetter, not PolyNews. Dwight

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Polymorphic Systems

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Marvin Johnston" <marvin(a)rain.org> > > ---snip--- Maybe this >will be the kick in the ... seat :) to get me going and backing up all >the Polymorphic disks (8" and 5 1/4" totaling probably a couple of >hundred disks) including source code and documentation for their >products. Hi Marvin If you get a machine running, I'll write some software, similar to what I have on the H89 to transfer entire disk images. That will make archiving easier. I sent a message to Bob Bybee to see if he knew anything about the other front panels. He was the editor for the Poly News. Also, while digging through stuff, did you happen to come on an extra serial interface card. I have a Poly88 that is sadly without one. Later Dwight

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Onyx C8002: pictures of the boards available now

by cheri-post＠web.de

Hello all, thanks to der Mouse, the pictures are available under: ftp.rodents.montreal.qc.ca/pub/cheri/ If anybody could check out the DIP Switch settings ?? I could verify the status of the LEDs either, if this helps. Just drop in an email. There are two identical memory boards. The one scanned is the first, that's why the two terminators are missing . The other memory board at the end of the bus has these terminators. Switch settings are different, apparently to set an ID. Remember, I have no documentain, but it would be worth to compare the settings of the switches and LEDs with a working unit ! Thanks in advance for any help ! Pierre __________________________________________________________ Mit WEB.DE FreePhone mit hoechster Qualitaet ab 0 Ct./Min. weltweit telefonieren! http://freephone.web.de/?mc=021201

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HP 2621-P terminal

by vcf＠siconic.com

Does anyone want an HP 2621-P terminal? Lawrence has one for you. Please contact him if interested at <lmzeidler(a)MSN.com>. Photo: http://www.columbia.edu/acis/history/carman.html -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Setup disk for HP Vectra ES?

by jmartinson＠martinsound.com

Hey, I have a copy of the setup program for the Vectra ES 12 computers. Do you still need it? Do you still have the HP 82321 Basic Language Processor cards and would you like to sell them? Joe Martinson President Martinsound Inc. 1151 W. Valley Blvd. Alhambra, Ca. 91803-2493 www.martinsound.com <http://www.martinsound.com/> email: jmartinson(a)martinsound.com Phone: (626) 281-3555 Ext. 101 Fax: (626) 284-3092

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Looking for Astounding Arcade Games For Your Spectrum+ & Spectrum

by vcf＠siconic.com

I'm looking for the book ASTOUNDING ARCADE GAMES FOR YOUR SPECTRUM+ & SPECTRUM by David Perry (published by Interface). This would've been published in the UK (13,000 copies). Does anyone know where to locate one? I have a friend who's trying to find it for some research he's doing. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Polymorphic Systems

by marvin＠rain.org

It is amazing what can be found by looking around :). I had a box of "stuff" from Polymorphic Systems that I finally got around to checking out. I didn't realize that Polymorphic made a keyboard, but I have a metal chassic with "Polymorphic" on it and about 6 keyboard assemblies that fit inside. I also found a front panel to a System HD/18, a number of "new" System 88/DS front panels, a System 8810 front panel, various back panels, and enough wooden sides for another 5 computers or so. All of the front panels have cutouts for full size 5 1/4" drives. Maybe this will be the kick in the ... seat :) to get me going and backing up all the Polymorphic disks (8" and 5 1/4" totaling probably a couple of hundred disks) including source code and documentation for their products. Does anyone know what the HD/18 and 88/DS systems were all about? I've got another box someplace that holds a pair of 8" drives with Polymorphic logo on it, but I haven't had time to look through all the engineering documentation to find out what it is.

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Any info on "Kid Newton"

by vcf＠siconic.com

I'm seeking out information on the Kid Newton, which was some special version of Apple's Newton. Here's a photo: http://www.msu.edu/~luckie/kidnewt.gif This is for a client of mine but I'm not sure what if anything this information will be worth. If you have a write-up or more photos of this device (or you happen to have one) please contact me and we'll discuss further. Thanks! -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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TRS-80 (IV) help?

by nbreeden2＠comcast.net

Dave, You are correct that BREAK at power up will bypass the attempt to boot >from floppy, the Cass? / Memory? Prompts here are normal. You are correct that without the floppy controller it will boot directly to BASIC in ROM. Again Cass? And Memory are normal. Cass? is asking for the cassette baud rate (L=500Baud or H=1500Baud). Memory? Reserves high memory for use by drivers etc. When the system at startup says 'Diskette?' it thinks it's sensing a disk in the drive, for me this typically happens when the drive door is open with a disk in the drive. The best web site for info, docs and software is http://www.trs-80.com/, you should find the service and disk owners manuals for download. Ira can send you bootable floppies for the system; he's great to work with and knows a lot about these old systems. When I power up my Model III I hear the heads step back to track 0 thus you are correct that this should happen. I'm more familiar with the MODEL III however I believe the following applies to the MODEL 4 as well: When you removed the floppy drive for cleaning did you reconnect it to the same position on the floppy cable? (Cable position defines the drive number!) Assuming this is a standard RS floppy controller and cable then the following is true: Radio Shack removed pins from the floppy drive connector on the cable to control selecting the drive (typically either DS0/DS2 or DS1/DS3 will be missing on the floppy controller side of the cable), they jumper DS0-DS3 as all active on the disk drives (if you reset this then turn them all back on). The internal floppy connector brings only DS0 and DS1 out. The external connector brings DS2 out as DS0 and DS3 out as DS1. Again this is ONLY 100% true for RS controllers, some 3rd party controllers used normal pinouts on the connectors so your mileage may vary. The LAST drive on the floppy cable MUST be terminated (150 ohm typically) otherwise the drives won't work. Finally - if the drive is ALWAYS selected with the power on them you have one of the cables on upside down, most likely the end to the controller PCB as it's typically not keyed. Hope something here helps. :) -Neil ------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 21:45:57 -0400 From: Dave Dunfield <dave04a(a)dunfield.com> Subject: TRS-80 (IV) help? To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Message-ID: <20041012014553.YBKR14765.berlinr.sprint.ca(a)smtp.sprint.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Guys, Picked up another big load this weekend, and am just starting to go through it - Item#1 is a TRS-80 Model IV. When I first powered it up, it sucked on the Empty bottom drive for a couple of seconds, then prompted with "Cass?" and entered ROM basic. Tried a Model IV boot disk and go the same result - so I removed the drive and cleaned it (machine has been sitting a long time). Now, it powers up, selects the drive and "hangs" - does not move on to the "Cass?" prompt - I've checked all connections and socketed chips, and everything is clean and looks OK. Have reseated everthing several times. A few of observations: - If I hold RESET while I power up the machine, the drive motors still come on, but I do not get a select - the select appears to be happening under software control. - If I disconnect the disk controller board ribbon cable, the machine powers up at the "Cass?" prompt - in this case, I believe the ROM startup sees that there is no disk system and enters ROM basic, thinking that it is a diskless unit. - If I power-up/reset while holding BREAK, it also gives the "Cass?" prompt - after briefly selecting the drive - looks like BREAK very soon after power-up can interrupt the boot process, and ROM BASIC comes up normally. - I never see the drive seek - it selects, but does not seek. If I manually move the drive head out during power-off, it DOES NOT seek back to track-0 after selecting the drive when I power it on. - Twice so far in a couple of hours of working on it, I have seen the prompt "Diskette?" (no cursor) after powering on the machine (with disk controller connected and not holding BREAK). I cannot make this prompt come up reliably. It looks to me as if something in it's interaction with the disk controller is hanging the machine. Anyone here knowlegable in TRS-80's? Can anyone tell me what the Model IV is *SUPPOSED* to do on power-up, both with and without a boot disk in the drive (I have no documentation at all). Any pointers to service documentation? ROM listings? Other information on servicing a model IV - any idea how I can further diagnose this problem? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated! Regards, Dave -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html ***************

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TRS-80 (IV) help?

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

Hi Guys, Picked up another big load this weekend, and am just starting to go through it - Item#1 is a TRS-80 Model IV. When I first powered it up, it sucked on the Empty bottom drive for a couple of seconds, then prompted with "Cass?" and entered ROM basic. Tried a Model IV boot disk and go the same result - so I removed the drive and cleaned it (machine has been sitting a long time). Now, it powers up, selects the drive and "hangs" - does not move on to the "Cass?" prompt - I've checked all connections and socketed chips, and everything is clean and looks OK. Have reseated everthing several times. A few of observations: - If I hold RESET while I power up the machine, the drive motors still come on, but I do not get a select - the select appears to be happening under software control. - If I disconnect the disk controller board ribbon cable, the machine powers up at the "Cass?" prompt - in this case, I believe the ROM startup sees that there is no disk system and enters ROM basic, thinking that it is a diskless unit. - If I power-up/reset while holding BREAK, it also gives the "Cass?" prompt - after briefly selecting the drive - looks like BREAK very soon after power-up can interrupt the boot process, and ROM BASIC comes up normally. - I never see the drive seek - it selects, but does not seek. If I manually move the drive head out during power-off, it DOES NOT seek back to track-0 after selecting the drive when I power it on. - Twice so far in a couple of hours of working on it, I have seen the prompt "Diskette?" (no cursor) after powering on the machine (with disk controller connected and not holding BREAK). I cannot make this prompt come up reliably. It looks to me as if something in it's interaction with the disk controller is hanging the machine. Anyone here knowlegable in TRS-80's? Can anyone tell me what the Model IV is *SUPPOSED* to do on power-up, both with and without a boot disk in the drive (I have no documentation at all). Any pointers to service documentation? ROM listings? Other information on servicing a model IV - any idea how I can further diagnose this problem? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated! Regards, Dave -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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OS Suggestions - Mac Quadra 800

by CCTalk＠catcorner.org

Scored this from the local "cleanup week", sans monitor, keyboard and mouse. Has the DayStar Digital 100 MHz PPC upgrade board installed. Now, what do I do with it? I have a keyboard and mouse on the way. I have plenty of "standard" PC VGA monitors. Will these probably work? What OS would suit this machine the "best". I am primarily a Xenix/Linux/Solaris man, with a smattering of Microsoft products. Which OS will be the most "usefull" I know the machine has at least 48 Meg of RAM. Not sure exactly until I get it connected to a monitor. What are the Pros and Cons of each OS? Thanks for any suggestions, Kelly

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AVL Coyote Memory Programmer

by cb＠mythtech.net

>* If indeed this is an S100 machine then don't do it! Having never seen an S100 machine I can't say for sure, but I did open the case today and there are no slots of any kind. Just a bunch of ICs soldered to a single board (actually, two boards, but one appears to be just for controlling the keypad and display). My guess is, it is just a custom unit, and I really don't think it has any value. I have to dig thru my slide projectors, some of the info I found leads me to believe some of the Kodak ones I have should support the remote connector. I've never noticed a 7 pin connector before, but the way the extra two pins are placed, I may have simply not paid attention when plugging in a standard 5 pin remote. Baring finding a usable slide projector, I'll be returning it to where I got it, curbside garbage. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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archeology

by aek＠spies.com

> if anyone would like to see these scanned: A KA-10 print set would be nice to find.

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archeology

by brad＠heeltoe.com

Howdy, I'm doing some archilogy in a local garage and finding some interesting things. I've only just begun but I thought I'd ask if anyone would like to see these scanned: - tek 611 storage scope manual - PDP-6 schematics It looks like pdp-6 prints may already be in bitsavers - I'm not a pdp-6 person Didn't see any 611 info. -brad

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finding the right name for a connector

by cb＠mythtech.net

>You also didn't say what the connector is installed in! This one in particular doesn't fit in the 10 year rule. Its from an original iMac. Its the power connector. It looks similar to an ATX connector, but it is smaller and has more pins. > I >assume you have one half of a connector pair, and want the >other. Yup, I have one side, and I want the other so I can splice in a new power supply. >If you can get the connector out, with a magnifier look for >molded-in letters IDing the manu or brand, often << 1mm or .010" >or so. I was able to find on it "FoxConn". It was almost completely rubbed off (or just poorly molded in), so I missed that on the first pass. I did check FoxConn's web site, and they do seem to have pics of most of their stuff. It is going to be a royal PITA, but I suspect I will just have to click thru their online list and hope I find the right one. (On a first try, I wasn't able to find something that looked right AND had the right number of pins AND right pitch for the pins). >If you can't, do the classic hold-a-ruler-up-to-it and take a >300dpi photo and post it and ak the list to look at it. If I don't have luck on FoxConn's web site tonight, I'll probably upload a pic and see if anyone recognizes it. Otherwise, I may just have to find pins that fit and put them all in place, then use silicone caulk or hot glue to make my own shell to hold them in the right alignment. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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finding the right name for a connector

by cb＠mythtech.net

Is there any reliable place to check what the name of a connector style is? I have one I am trying to track down so I can purchase a replacement. But most of the catalogs that sell large assortments of connectors don't have pictures of each style. That makes it tough to buy the right thing when you don't know what it is called. In this case, the connector looks rather like an ATX power plug. Only physically smaller (but has more pins). I'm sure Mouser will have what I want, as soon as I find what it is called so I can look it up. I go thru this on a regular basis, so I didn't know if someone knew of a web site, or of some dealer who's catalog actually showed pictures of each style. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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AVL Coyote Memory Programmer

by cb＠mythtech.net

I can't find a date on this thing, so it might be off topic, but visually it sure looks older then 10 years. I got this from the "it isn't selling so it is now garbage, help yourself" pile at a garage sale over the weekend. It is labeled as an AVL Coyote Memory Programmer. Near as I can find, it is a slide projector dissolve controller. It has 3 wires hanging from it that I'd guess plug into slide projector remote ports. However, all the slide projectors I have seen have 5 pin jacks. These cables have the standard 5 pin plug, but there are an additional 2 pins below it that will prevent them from being used with any slide projects I have. It also has two RCA style jacks labeled Play In and Record Out. I'm taking a guess they are saving and loading any programming you have done. (There are Memory Save and Memory Load buttons on the keyboard that helps me draw this conclusion). Without knowing how to use it, I can't say if it works or not. It powers on, and in just pressing the buttons, I think some of the keys may not work. They are pressure pad like keys, and it feels like the top of the pads is lifting up, so the keys that don't seem to do anything could just be failing to make contact (or could only work in some combination or under certain times). Does anyone know anything about this thing? Any idea where I can locate a manual? Is there anyone that has been hunting for one of these and would like it? I'd be interested in playing with it if I can figure out how to use it and can find slide projectors that work with it, but it isn't anything that I'd do more than play with, so if there is someone that would love to have it, I can probably be persuaded to give it away. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Tektronix Microlab I

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Well Tektronix stuff is still finding it's way to me! I went out this morning and found a Tektronix 7D15 Counter Timer plug-in and a Tektronix Microlab I in the bottom on a basket of scrap. Does anyone know anything about the Microlab? I thought it was some kind of digital trainer but found a referenece on the net, <http://www.spies.com/~dd/TE/Tillman/Tek7000-Tillman.html>, about it being used with a special interface board to test Tek 7854 o'scopes (presumably the digital sections). It's mounted in a blue case similar to those used for the Tek 83x Communications Analyzers. Once you open the cover there is a hinged clear plastic cover on the LH side inside. The clear cover has a square opening that leads to a card slot in the main unit. On the RH side is a panel with an 8 digit LED display. The left four digits are labeled "address" and the right four are labeled "data". Below that is a hex kexpad. There are also four more keys along the RH edge. They are labeled "reset", "load address", "load data", "inc" and "dec". The sixteen hex keys also have shifted functions that look like something that would be found on a digital trainer. One the left side of the case near the rear are two 1/8" jacks that are labeled "cassette in" and "cassette out". One the right side of the case near the back are two DB-25 connectors, one labeled "RS-232 terminal" and the other labeled "RS-232 MODEM". I opened the case to check inside and found that it only has sone circuit board in it. It has a lot of TTL ICs, some 2114 RAMs, three 6850 UARTs but no CPU! I suppose the CPU is on the plug-in card (that I don't have :-( Anybody know anything about these? I couldn't find anything in my '86 Tektronix catalog and only one mention on the net. Joe

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Emulex TC12 controller

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Thanks Antonio. My manual is a bit older: TC1251002 Rev E, June, 1983. I am going to scan it anyway; a request gives me a good reason to pick up some scanning work after a long idle time. As I said, I will scan in what the manuals calles "Sections". You/Guy/etc. can download what is relevant before I remove it from my site (URL follows when it's up). Now it's time to fill that 8th CD-ROM with FMPS and manuals ... - Henk, PA8PDP. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Sent: 11-10-2004 21:49 Subject: RE: Emulex TC12 controller > If this manual seems to be what you are looking for I can scan it > at 600 dpi. Big file, but when printed gives very good copies! > The contents (briefly): Introduction - General Description - > Functional > Description - Packet Processing - Installation - TC12 Option > Switches - > Address Selection - Autoconfigure and VMS, RSTS/E and RSX-11M. > See mainecoon for an impression of the scan quality -- they > are my work. There are already a few TC02 and TC12 things online (see vt100.net/manx). In addition there are some on bitsavers in pdf/emulex. I also have "TC12/FS (TS11 Compatible) Tape Coupler Technical Manual", part number "TC1251002 Rev H". I picked this up from somewhere on the net but I do not remember where (and it does not seem to be on bitsavers). If it is not still around somewhere, I could make it available for long enough to get it online somewhere. Hopefully this might save you some scanning work! Antonio -- --------------- Antonio Carlini arcarlini(a)iee.org LINC Tape Control

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Plato

by jan＠jandujardin.com

Hi, I found your message below while googling around for Plato information. You probabley already know, but there's an emulated Cyber running PLATO online now at http://www.cyber1.org Greetings, Jan. From: Claude.W cctech(a)classiccmp.org Date: Fri Aug 2 14:14:31 2002 Subject: Plato terminal -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Id love to see the old Plato running again. Does anyone here know anyone that worked or was involved in Plato closely and might be able to get some kinda "emulator" project going off the ground? Writing up a terminal emulator might not be dramatic but emulating the cybers that ran plato might be more of a challenge... This would be totaly wild and while I dont have a lotta time for stuff like this...this one would probably get some attention from me... And if I could find listing of some games I had written, Id go totaly wild...SPACE ATTACK was one of them. Seems TELUQ (Tele-Universitee here in Quebec) was very involved in Plato. But I have yet to find some people from "back then".... Claude -- Jan Dujardin | http://www.jandujardin.com

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Emulex TC12 controller

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Hi Guy, perhaps I can be of some help here. I've got the original Emulex documentation of the TC12 tape coupler, and also the TC02 tape coupler. Both boards are quad-sized, the TC12 is for UNIBUS, the TC02 is for QBUS systems. To identify if your board is a TC12, I describe what is in manual. (wished that those pictures were in more manuals, they're great!) With the four rows of finger contacts right before you, in the middle of the board, at the left of the center are two DIP switch packages, and to the left of those are first 2 small IC's followed by 2 big AMD 2901 bit slices. At the opposite of the 4 finger contact rows (which go into UNIBUS slot positions C,D,E,F) are two 50-pin BERG header connectors. If this manual seems to be what you are looking for I can scan it at 600 dpi. Big file, but when printed gives very good copies! The contents (briefly): Introduction - General Description - Functional Description - Packet Processing - Installation - TC12 Option Switches - Address Selection - Autoconfigure and VMS, RSTS/E and RSX-11M. See mainecoon for an impression of the scan quality -- they are my work. - Henk, PA8PDP. -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only Cc: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Sent: 11-10-2004 6:07 Subject: Emulex TC12 controller Hi, I'm looking for information on the Emulex TC12 (I'm assuming) tape unibus controller. I have two Kennedy 9300 drives that I'd like to hook up and I have an Emulex TC12. I also have an AVIV board (hex height with 2 50 pin connectors on the top) that I have no other information on. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. -- TTFN - Guy

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Xerox 9700 card identification

by jplist＠kiwigeek.com

Greetings; I've got a line on a Xerox 9700 COM driver, which appears to be a double-rack containing a CDC disk, a PDP11/34a, a big magtape and a couple honkin' great PSUs. Was wondering if anyone could identify one of the cards in the unit - this is the list I received from the owner: M7843 DR11-K Digital I/O M7856 DL11-W SLU/RTC M8265 KD11-EA 11/34A Data Paths Module (rep M7265) M8266 KD11-EA 11/34A Control Module (rep M7266) M9202 (2 bus) Inverted Jumpered Unibus Cable (M9192 + M9292) M9031-YX Unibus to 3 3M cables for 11/74? M9302 Unibus Terminator - Far End X020 5012180B-P2 Data Path X030 CDC Disk Controller X031 -5 VDC regulator 143103843-001 rev B 8x18 (6pop - 4116-20NL) == 96k? M8013 RL01 Disk Controller 1/2 M8014 RL01 Disk Controller 2/2 M8092 ??? M8200-YB 1-line sync DDCMP microprocessor w/ 1K control ROM (point-to-point, used with M8201) M8202-YA DMC-11-MA 1-Mbaud integral modem line unit M9301-YJ M9301 w/ bootstrap for DECnet DMC11, RX01, TU10, ASCII console I'm not sure where he got the descriptions, probably from some web resource or maybe even documentation of some description. I'm curious what the M8092 is, google doesn't return anything remotely related. Pictures of the 9700, amongst other bits and pieces, can be found here: http://microfilm.dyndns.org/~wulfcub/CompStuff The thing also comes with a couple spare CDC disk packs, and he thinks he can find an RX01 with the necessary disk controller for it too. Thanks; JP

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OT: shipping from USA to UK

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Pete Turnbull" <pete(a)dunnington.u-net.com> > >Off-topic because it's not a classic computer (it's a pice of >microscopy equipment)... > >I have the prospect of buying something very cheaply in the States, but >which would be expensive here in the UK. Unfortunately, it weighs too >much for normal UPS -- about 80lb. FedEx want over $300 to ship it. > Can anyone think of a better way? > >-- >Pete Peter Turnbull > Network Manager > University of York > Hi Pete If it is a piece of equipment, have is broken down into several sub pieces for shipping. You know, remove the power supply, etc. Dwight

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DEC W940 wire-wrap board

by wmaddox＠pacbell.net

A guy on Ebay seems to have a supply of these. The are labelled "Intercon", but it is clear that they OEMed the boards from DEC and ground off the DEC markings. These do *not* have sockets -- you either solder in the chips or your own sockets, maximum 16-pin DIP, 50 parts. Bypass caps are pre-installed at all positions. He's also got the the smaller double-height boards. I bought a few of these, and they look OK, although the pins are *not* gold plated and are less than perfectly pristine. The seller seemed a bit disorganized, and I had to send an inquiry after waiting a month with no shipment, though I got an apology and a free extra board for my trouble. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26213&item=384065871… eBay item 3840658718 (Ends Oct-16-04 22:25:26 PDT) - Large Wire Wrap Board Pluggable for DIP IC Prototypes http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26213&item=384065942… eBay item 3840659420 (Ends Oct-16-04 22:33:35 PDT) - Wire Wrap Board Pluggable for DIP IC Prototypes There is also another board that looks like it is intended for some flavor of DG Nova. You can't see the chips in the photo, but half of the board is already populated. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26213&item=384065871… eBay item 3840658716 (Ends Oct-16-04 22:25:24 PDT) - Huge Wire Wrap Board Pluggable for DIP IC Prototypes

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HP posters wanted

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

That poster got me thinking.... anyone have any HP 21MX or 21XX type marketing posters? I just realized I don't have anything like that in my collection, and would certainly love to. Anyone have any duplicates to trade? Thanks! Jay

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Emulex TC12 controller

by ggs＠shiresoft.com

Hi, I'm looking for information on the Emulex TC12 (I'm assuming) tape unibus controller. I have two Kennedy 9300 drives that I'd like to hook up and I have an Emulex TC12. I also have an AVIV board (hex height with 2 50 pin connectors on the top) that I have no other information on. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. -- TTFN - Guy

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Boot Rom for KDF11-BA

by mehditk2＠juno.com

Hi, Does anyone have a KDF11-B3 boot rom or any other version which can boot RX33 or an MSCP device on my KDF11-BA. I will pay for that and I will be very thankful since I have not to buy a Eprom programmer to burn the immages.

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LF: DEC VAX 4000/xxx

by kcampbell＠idokorro.com

Greets all, I?m looking to acquire my first VAX system. I?m a youngin? who?s been cutting his teeth on OpenVMS through HP?s TestDrive program, and would like to have a box of my own. I?d really like to track down a VAX 4000 unit, preferably a /300 or higher. I?m not too picky about internals, I just need something to get started on (hardware collecting wise). I?m located in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, so I?d be looking for a unit located in Eastern USA or Eastern Canada (yes, I know shipping a BA440 will cost me a bit) and someone willing to bubblewrap it :) If I?m being insane, hoping to have a 120lbs unit shipped, let me know.. Should I be just looking for the cards / drives separately, and try to find the case locally instead? Thanks, Ken Campbell kcampbell at HYPERLINK "mailto:kcampbell@idokorro.com"idokorro.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.773 / Virus Database: 520 - Release Date: 10/5/2004

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Intel Paragon on ebay

by stephane.tsacas＠gmail.com

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1486&item=5725108402 one card is sold separatly : http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11175&item=3844908613 The actual high bidder will resale the chips only :( -- Stephane Paris, France.

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OT: shipping from USA to UK

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

Off-topic because it's not a classic computer (it's a pice of microscopy equipment)... I have the prospect of buying something very cheaply in the States, but which would be expensive here in the UK. Unfortunately, it weighs too much for normal UPS -- about 80lb. FedEx want over $300 to ship it. Can anyone think of a better way? -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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OT: shipping from USA to UK

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 10 2004, 12:47, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > On Sun, 10 Oct 2004, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > > Can anyone think of a better way? > > I highly recommend Menlo Worldwide Forwarding: Ah, interesting. Thanks, Sellam -- they have a branch at Leeds/Bradford, which is our local airport. Thanks to Nico, too. I've also contacted Transgroup. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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HP table cloth!!!!!

by esharpe＠uswest.net

found the giant HP table Cloth.... now have to go though the crate of HP software that turned up. think it may be mainly 110.150/vectra. more later.... Thanks Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC Please check our web site at http://www.smecc.org to see other engineering fields, communications and computation stuff we buy, and by all means when in Arizona drop in and see us. address: coury house / smecc 5802 w palmaire ave glendale az 85301

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your osborne 1 machine

by half_eaten＠yahoo.com

omg... i know you posted abot your ebay auction for your osborne 2 years ago, but you wouldn't happen to still have software for it would you?? i know this is a long shot, but ive been looking for software for this thing for years. i can't even boot it up because i have no disks for it. thanks for your reply! -Mike --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!

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WANTED ($$$): DEC MXV11-BF (M7195)

by waltje＠pdp11.nl

Hi all, For a project I need one of the above beasties. If you have one (or several ;-) and could be coerced into parting with them, contact me off-list and we'll agree on terms .. Thankee, Fred -- Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist Visit the VAXlab Project at http://VAXlab.pdp11.nl/ Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/ Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Mountain View, CA, USA

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HP Laserjet ..again....

by millenniumfalcon＠cableone.net

As I stated earlier, I have cannibalized three HP laserjet series II printers. In looking over the parts recovered I find that I have three (3) totally different memory boards. The first is populated with small chips on BOTH sides of the board with a total of 128 soldered in chips that appear from their part numbers to be 256K memory chips, That is the number 256 appears within the part number. Now I don't know how wide the buss is but I am assuming 8 bits because of its age. If so this board is a 4 Megabyte memory board. The second is only half populated with 16 soldered in chips on one side that have the number 1000 in their part number so I am assuming they are 1meg chips and using the afore mentioned logic I come up with a 2Megabyte memory board. The third is fully populated with 32 socketed chips with the number 1000 in their part number and that works out to a 4 Megabyte memory board. Is my logic sound? Do I have two 4 meg boards and a 2 meg board? What is the largest memory board the Series 2 could hold? I am assuming that the socketed memory is best because it is easily repaired, but are there any problems with the socketed memory having bad contacts after time?

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[OT] IDing a website owner

by stephane.tsacas＠gmail.com

On Sat, 9 Oct 2004 15:13:58 -0700, Zane H. Healy <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> wrote: > OK, either my memory is failing or it's no longer as easy to identify > who owns a website. How can I go about figuring that out? > Zane 1/ query the whois of the according registrar. Example : for .com : www.internic.net, for .org, www.pir.org. For countries query their NIC (Network information center), www.nic.fr for France for example. If you prefer something easier : http://www.whois-search.com/ which will automagically query the correct whois database. 2/ A web server is bound to an IP address. You can find who owns this IP by querying another set of databases. Start from the ARIN database at www.arin.net which might redirect you to some other databases (RIPE for Europe, APNIC for Asiac/Pacific, LACNIC etc.). http://www.whois-search.com/ will work in both cases. To have the name converted to IP AND the whois query at the same time : http://www.samspade.org/ Hope this helps, -- Stephane Paris, France.

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Onyx C8002 News: Boards pictures

by cheri-post＠web.de

Hi all, finally, I've had some time and a new scanner to scan in the boards. Somebody asked me to do so several months ago. There are scans of one of the two memory boards, the peripherals board and the CPU board. Problem is, that I haven't got a website to put them on. Six pictures are available, size is 500kb - 800kb. They're big, I know, but everything can be seen, including the inscriptions of the chips. If anybody wants them, I can send them via email. Better would be a place to put them online for a week or so. Maybe a kind person could help me ? It would be great if someone who owns a C8000/c8002 could check out the DIP switch settings of the boards. I'm not sure if they're ok. Remeber, my C8002 doesn't work, I'm trying to fix it. Have a nice weekend Pierre ________________________________________________________________ Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS! Jetzt neu bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://freemail.web.de/?mc=021193

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HP-3000 "Guide for new System Operators" 1986 manual - free

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

I have a thick manual entitled - "HP-3000 Guide for new System Operators" dated 1986. I don't want it, do you? Free for shipping from So Cal 92656. First come first served? No, I hate that. Everyone who responds in the next 7 days will have a fair chance, unless you want to start throwing money at me. I'm making a big assumption that someone may actually want it... Steve. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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Storage Hazards

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 8 2004, 4:34, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > Also to worry about: > > * Paper rot (paper documents that are crumbling due to acid in the paper) > * Bit rot (EPROMS or magnetic media that are nearing their theoretical > lifespan) I was going to mention that. Also electrolytic capacitors that need reformed. Old oil/grease in fan bearings and the like, which has turned to varnish/wax and seized the bearings. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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classiccmp server hard drive info

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Bought a new hard drive for the classiccmp server. It's a seagate barracuda 7200rpm 8mb cache 160gb unit. Retail Price was $129.99, less $20 instant rebate, plus $7.23 sales tax, subtotal $117.22. Then there was a $50 mail in rebate, so the bottom line cost is $67.22. This was a compUSA special last week. Anyone who wants to donate a pittance to cover the drive purchase, paypal me at jwest(a)classiccmp.org I'll email the list soon as I cover the price of the drive. I probably wont get down to the datacenter to install the drive for a week or two. I'll announce to the list when the downtime is to be expected. Jay

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some DEC person is going to want this :)

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I was contacted with the following email text: "For Sale - Wall poster, size 22" x 28", good condition. Shown in chrome frame, I will keep the frame, roll the poster up and mail it in a tube (at my cost) for $20." And the poster can be viewed at http://www.ezwind.net/jwest/dec-poster.jpg Contact me off-list if interested. Very nice :) Jay

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[OT] IDing a website owner

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

OK, either my memory is failing or it's no longer as easy to identify who owns a website. How can I go about figuring that out? Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh(a)aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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PDP 11/70: MK11 memory crate, M9312 cards, and wiring...

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi all, We've got an M9312 boot / terminator board in our Decsystem 570 (which has 11/70 internals). The board has four spade connection points on it - TP1 - TP4. Now, TP1 has a couple of wires connected to it, one white and one clear, and TP2 has a black wire connected to it. These appear to run up to the central pillar of the rack - I expect to the 'initialize' switch. (TP1 is boot input, with TP2 as return, whilst TP4 is enable boot with TP3 as return) TP3 and TP4 are currently unconnected. *However*, we have a crate of memory in the machine in a box labelled MK11-C2. From this there's a cable dangling out the back, with a pair of spade connectors at the end (one spade having both white and black wires running to it, the other having clear). I suspect this is supposed to plug into TP3 and TP4 on the M9312 board, but can anyone confirm this? What does the cable actually do? I'm guessing it's some sort of 'power good' type of signal back to the CPU... And whilst I'm here... We have three H775D battery modules for the machine. The back of the MK11-C2 has an 8 pin connector marked as being for such a battery unit - anyone know if the cable's a straight through between the memory crate and the battery unit? (i.e. 1-1, 2-2 etc.) I suspect the other two battery units were spares - but the MK11 also has two more unlabelled 8 pin connectors; are these important for anything? Will the memory unit be happy without any battery unit(s) plugged in? Also... :-) What do J1 and J2 do on the back of the MK11? Currently pins 1-3 on J2 are shorted via a small plug, whilst J1 has nothing connected to it. As mentioned in a previous email, the machine power supplies look good, but whilst various LED's on the CPU front panel are lit, with the key inserted we're still unable to use any front panel switches to yield any signs of life. My *guess* is that the cable hanging out of the memory crate should be plugged into the M9312, and the system isn't starting because it thinks the memory crate is upset - but I could be totally wrong on that and something else is up with the CPU... And if anyone has any answers in the next 12 hours, then great - as I can spend all day tomorrow screwing around with the machine then :-) cheers Jules

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Mac Parts

by don-jacque＠comcast.net

I am interested in a couple of the Mac local talk or phoneNet terminatiors. If you still have any. Let me know how much and availability. Thanks Don Joyce Don-jacque(a)comcast.net

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[Ace-students] Re: Thoughts -> Re: classiccmp server (fwd)

by tomj＠wps.com

> From: John Foust <jfoust(a)threedee.com> > What an interesting engineering problem: design an audio encoding suitable > for a few dozen bytes that was pleasant-sounding to the ear, yet had a > chance to work over AM radio or telephone. It could even just be the > standardized start and end tones to bracket a snippet of audio that the > device would record and decode later. So I forwarded John's interesting idea to the ACE students (Arts Computation Engineering) here and got this reference: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:40:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffrey Kent Ridenour <jridenou(a)ics.uci.edu> This is one of Crista Lopes' research areas: audio modems. Check out http://www.ics.uci.edu/~lopes

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FREE: Compaq Luggable w/ software

by blair＠averagebacon.com

Any takers? Free. Vermontville, MI (hour from Grand Rapids, 45 min. from Lansing, could also transport to Chicago area). Pictures can be found here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5127260755 Just let me know... Blair

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DEC flip chips

by ddl-cctech＠danlan.com

I have the following flip chips. If anyone needs any specific modules, please let me know. (I already have someone to take them all/what's left.) Dan Lanciani ddl(a)danlan.*com A 607x1 B 163x2 G 222x16 223x4 100x7 613A/614Ax1 823x1 825x1 829x2 848x1 853x1 882x4 R/S 002x10 107x17 111x8 113x12 123x8 202x16 203x9 302x2 303x3 401x1 409x1 602x2 603x5 W 010x8 033x2 050x1 051x3 103x10 104x3 107x6 500x3 520x1 640x4 700x3 714Ax1 800x2 M 002x5 103x2 104x3 111x8 112x6 113x22 115x8 117x9 119x17 121x15 133x4 135x1 149x11 160x1 161x1 203x2 204x2 207x8 212x13 216x24 223x5 240x3 302x3 311x3 312x3 401x1 405x1 420x1 500x6 510x19 602x4 611x2 606x7 617x1 622x25 627x6 632x6 776x1 786x1 909x4 910x1 911x2 966x2

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DEC board cleanout

by anheier＠owt.com

I have these DEC boards I would like to find a new home for. These appear to be in good shape, but not sure if these are in working order. I would like $30 for all the boards + shipping. 4 each: M3105 DHU11-A ASYNC MUX DMA CNTL 1 each: M7485-YA M7485 W/ BLSTD RMS 4 LYR UDA50 1 each: M7903 BOARD DATA RK06 1 each + 1 damaged: M7819 8 LN DBL BUF ASYNC EIA DZ1 Thanks Norm

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Programmable ROM Module for the HP-85

by vp＠cs.drexel.edu

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5128991233 For the people looking for an EMS ROM for the Series 80, this is the next best thing, the programmable ROM drawer allows you to install ROM images on 4K-byte 2732 or 8K 2764 EPROMs. You can get the images from www.series80.org Note, I am not the one selling this item, I am just posting this because people have been asking me about the EMS ROM. **vp

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Storage Hazards

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Tom Jennings" <tomj(a)wps.com> > >On Fri, 8 Oct 2004, Ethan Dicks wrote: > >> It takes much longer for double-sided copies to stick to themselves, but >> under a variety of storage conditions, it does happen. Sticking to binder >> covers is much quicker, and as someone else here pointed out, ensuring there >> is a blank page at the front and back goes a long way to preventing problems. > >I have binders of xerographic copies that stick to >themselves. xerography isn't very permanent. > Hi I've found that it depends on the paper that was used and how well it was fused. Porous paper seems to work better ( non-glossy ) and lighter amounts of toner also works better than heavy amounts. Too thick a layer of toner doesn't fuse well to the paper. Dwight

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Storage Hazards

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Philip Pemberton" <philpem(a)dsl.pipex.com> > >In message <200410082218.PAA18131(a)clulw009.amd.com> > "Dwight K. Elvey" <dwight.elvey(a)amd.com> wrote: > >> This is really bad stuff. One of the things I've seen with mouse >> piss is that the legs of many IC's are steel cores with tin plating. > >Steel? Are you sure? >Most of the manufacturers' datasheets I've seen say something along the lines >of "Pin material: Copper with [x]um tin-lead plating"... > >> I've seen where the IC leg will look fiine but the entire insides >> are rotted out from mouse piss. > >Chinchilla urine seems to do the same sort of thing - had a steel cage that >was rendered unsafe in a year or so by a family of three chinchillas. > >Later. Hi Phil Check for your self. Use a magnet. If it sticks, it is steel inside, if not, it is copper. At a previous company I worked at, we always trimmed the leads of IC's and passives. I would say that about 75% of the IC leads would stick to a magnet and some 20% of the passive leads would also stick. Dwight

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Cromemco software question

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: Here's another stumper. I was able to get copies of some of the Cromemco paper tape software, particularly Space War, so I can test it with a Dazzler add-on for the Altair32 emulator. Can anyone with Cromemco experience tell me what loader should be used to load this software into a machine? I don't recall seeing anything in the manual that revealed this secret. Thanks. Rich

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Storage Hazards

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Jules wrote: Toner consists of hars, pigment and iron particles. In a photocopier the combination of temperature and pressure "prints" the toner onto the (paper) sheet. Your copies get a little sticky at warmer days, and the pressure inside the binder is doing the rest. I guess that you are right when you say that *any* batteries cause corrosion over time. I never saw batteries made of *one* piece of metal enclosure. There must be some opening in that case to get the two poles (as wires) to the outside world. Et voil?: there you have the weak spot that eventually will cause a leak! BTW an other place toi check for leaky batteries are DECstations and VAXstations (or ...servers). They also have a NiCad (!!!!) "on board". - Henk, PA8PDP ; Be careful with laser-printed documentation in ring binders too; the ; text has a habit of sticking to the underside of the binder's cover for ; some reason - stick a blank sheet of paper in there to protect it. ; ; > * Leaky nicad batteries that will "eat" the circuit board traces ; > The early computers that come quickly to mind are the TRS-100, Lobo ; > Drives Max 80, NEC 8201A, 286 and later motherboards, and S-100 ; > CompuWatch Clock/Calendar boards. Any others that should be added to ; > this list? ; ; Won't *any* batteries cause corrosion over time? E.g. anything in ; pocket calculators etc.

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by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Computer Collector E-Mail Newsletter" <news(a)computercollector.com> >>>>>> Won't *any* batteries cause corrosion over time? E.g. anything in pocket >calculators etc. > >I agree. Recently I went to use my Palm III, and it wouldn't turn on. So I >opened the battery cover to change them, and to my surprise, the dual AAAs were >badly melted. > >Speaking of which... LOL, can someone suggest a way to CLEAN battery acid? Is >my PDA salvageable? > ---snip--- Pinball machines often have this problem. Cleaning with just soap and water is not enough. Most current day batteries use an alkaline electrolyte. This will continue to do damage unless neutralized. On boards for pinball machine, using vinegar seems to do the trick. We first soak the board in a bath of 50% white distilled vinegar for several hours and then use a stiff brush to remove as much of the corrosion deposits as one can. Do note that you may need to remove things like dip switches, relays and keypad covers ( think in terms of where water can hide ). Also, any socket that is even slightly suspect will need to be replaced. After the soak, use a water hose and spray rinse the board well. Shake of excess water and rinse again. Dry quickly in a warm place. I often set them in the sun but for winter drying, an oven set to about 140-150F works well. Use a cookie pan or piece of foil to block direct heat radiation >from the heating elements ( not a problem in convection ovens. Also don't even think of using a microwave! ). Any trace that is rotted through will need to be replaced. Dwight

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Storage Hazards

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com> > >Pests of any kind should be watched for, including rodents that will pee >all over your circuit boards like little bastard teenage vandals! > ---snip--- Hi This is really bad stuff. One of the things I've seen with mouse piss is that the legs of many IC's are steel cores with tin plating. I've seen where the IC leg will look fiine but the entire insides are rotted out from mouse piss. The lead would just crumble when squeezed with needle nose pliers. I have in the past assumed this was acid damage and use baking soda solution and rinse. It seems to help but usually by the time I notice it, the damage is already done. I live in the mountains and critters are just part of living here. Still, I wouldn't trade it for living in any city I know of. Dwight

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Texas Harris county auctions

by Ladyelec＠aol.com

I saw this in the peper and it might be a good site to check upon occasion. It is in Houston, Texas. <A HREF="http://www.purchasing.co.harris.tx.us/auction/directio.htm">601 Lockwood, Houston, Texas</A> http://www.purchasing.co.harris.tx.us/auction/directio.htm <A HREF="http://www.pur.hctx.net/">Harris County Purchasing Agent</A> http://www.pur.hctx.net/ Click auctions on the left hand side. Harris County sells surplus and confiscated property through the Online Auction. Read the rules for bidding! Isa

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Storage Hazards

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 8 2004, 19:39, Jules Richardson wrote: > Some plastics react badly with each other when left for extended periods > of time too and can stick together. Unfortunately there seems to be no > way of knowing which types (power cables and polystyrene don't seem to > do very well; we've also had an Amstrad PDA at the museum that had > welded itself into its protective wallet...) It's now my habit to clean all such cables with white spirit (light kerosene) or turpentine substitute to remove the icky remains. > Be careful with laser-printed documentation in ring binders too; the > text has a habit of sticking to the underside of the binder's cover for > some reason - stick a blank sheet of paper in there to protect it. Ditto for photocopies. It's the same problem as the power cable vs expanded polystyrene, actually. Plasticisers in the PVC migrate into the polystyrene or toner (which is plastic). A sheet of acetate film, such as is used to make overhead projector transparencies (viewgraphs) makes a moderately effective barrier. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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OT: Good Windows FTP Servers

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Hello, all: Putting any Windows jokes aside, I'm looking for a decent Win32-based FTP server program to use at home to move files from my weather station computer to an Apache Web server which is also at home. The goal here is to open a single port in the firewall so I can log in and see the weather at my house. Not being familiar with Apache, maybe there's a way to do this without an FTP server, but I need to move a text-based data file every 5 minutes from the weather station program to the http server, both of which presently will reside on the same PC. The weather program handles all aspects of creating the data file periodically and will upload the data using ftp -- it does not provide for direct copying of files, the assumption being that this data is being uploaded to a server that's not on the same physical machine. I wanted to get some recommendations/user's favorites before I start Googling. Thanks. Rich

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Ethan in Userfriendly Cartoon

by cthilo＠unix-ag.org

Looks like Ethan has a guest appearance in todays userfriendly cartoon... ;-) http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041008 bye Thilo

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URGENT - DEC 11/83 (?) needs to be picked up this weekend (10 /9)

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Oct 8 2004, 16:44, Gooijen H wrote: > Correct. > I have an 11/84 in 10.5" box (console at the right-hand side) > and one 11/83 in 5.25" box (console in the middle of the front). > The original poster is maybe not so "DEC-aware", but then again, > I often doubt my DEC knowledge too. > How much difference is obvious in just a glance at an 11/73 and > an 11/83? Without looking at the boards, it's impossible to tell for certain. Some 11/73s were upgraded without changing the badges on the front. *Usually* a microPDP-11/73 is in a BA23 and a microPDP-11/83 is in a BA123, but not always. The real difference is in the use of normal QBus versus PMI memory; that makes more difference to the speed than just about anything else. Originally, an 11/73 would have had a 15MHz KDJ11 and an 11/83 would have been 18MHz, so they'd have had slightly different suffixes on the M-numbers, and they'd have slightly different boot ROMs, but any of these things may have been changed. What an OS goes by is whether the memory is PMI or not. -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

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Snopes on Ken Olsen

by jfoust＠threedee.com

"In 1977, Ken Olsen, the founder and CEO of Digital Equipment Corporation, said, "There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home." http://www.snopes.com/quotes/kenolsen.asp - John

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Interesting article on UCSD Pascal team annual reunion

by jfoust＠threedee.com

I'd previously mentioned the UCSD reunion page at: http://alumni.ucsd.edu/magazine/vol1no3/features/pascal.htm but there's another at: <http://soeadm.ucsd.edu/events/Pascal/>http<http://soeadm.ucsd.edu/events/Pascal/>://soeadm.ucsd.edu/events/Pascal/ And if you're closer to Mountain View, Wirth will be there the same week: http://www.computerhistory.org/events/index.php?id=1097188078 - John

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URGENT - DEC 11/83 (?) needs to be picked up this weekend (10 /9)

by GOOI＠oce.nl

Correct. I have an 11/84 in 10.5" box (console at the right-hand side) and one 11/83 in 5.25" box (console in the middle of the front). The original poster is maybe not so "DEC-aware", but then again, I often doubt my DEC knowledge too. How much difference is obvious in just a glance at an 11/73 and an 11/83? - Henk, PA8PDP. > [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Christopher McNabb > Sent: vrijdag 8 oktober 2004 16:10 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: URGENT - DEC 11/83 (?) needs to be picked up this weekend > (10 /9) > > > On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:48:18 +0200, Gooijen H <gooi(a)oce.nl> wrote: > > So, my guess, it is probably an "11/83". > > The 11/83 QBUS CPU board plus memory on QBUS side, then the > > QBUS-UNIBUS bridge and the rest is UNIBUS with its famous > > line of (beautiful) peripherals. > > > > - Henk. > > That would make it, in fact, an 11/84. The 11/83 is all QBUS, the > 11/84 is the 11/83 CPU with the Bridge.

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URGENT - DEC 11/83 (?) needs to be picked up this weekend (10 /9)

by GOOI＠oce.nl

So, my guess, it is probably an "11/83". The 11/83 QBUS CPU board plus memory on QBUS side, then the QBUS-UNIBUS bridge and the rest is UNIBUS with its famous line of (beautiful) peripherals. - Henk. > >>>>> "Jack" == Jack Rubin <jack.rubin(a)ameritech.net> writes: > > Jack> DEC 11/83 (or 73?) system with 2 RP06 drives ... > > ??? A Q-bus system with RP06 drives??? > > paul

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