- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

> >>On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 23:01:41 -0600, Jay West > <jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote: > >>>So is anyone still getting duplicate posts besides Mr. Corbin? > >> Jay the duplicate posts seem to have stopped. FWIW, the only duplicates I was getting were from YOU directly (primarily on the 11/45 Switch issues...)

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duplicate posts?

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

So is anyone still getting duplicate posts besides Mr. Corbin? If so, I'll dig into it. Jay

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WoffordWitch.com is now cookieless, stateless, and sessionless

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

> > > By popular demand, and to prevent further harassment, > > > I have made my http://www.woffordwitch.com site > > > cookieless, sessionless, and stateless. It will no > > > longer prompt you to identify yourself and you may > > > now browse it anonymously. > > > > I an top that... some of my sites have recently > > become contentless..... > > Contentless? Like how? > Server Crash..... Waiting for new parts to arrive in Denver.

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WoffordWitch.com is now cookieless, stateless, and sessionless

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

> By popular demand, and to prevent further harassment, > I have made my http://www.woffordwitch.com site > cookieless, sessionless, and stateless. It will no > longer prompt you to identify yourself and you may > now browse it anonymously. > I an top that... some of my sites have recently become contentless.....

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WoffordWitch.com is now cookieless, stateless, and sessionless

by wacarder＠usit.net

By popular demand, and to prevent further harassment, I have made my http://www.woffordwitch.com site cookieless, sessionless, and stateless. It will no longer prompt you to identify yourself and you may now browse it anonymously. I plan to do more site updates to better document my project(s) in the near future. Ashley

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by tpeters＠mixcom.com

I believe this is a T-shirt with a lear-sigler ADM-3 terminal on the front- only $11 (and up) http://www.cafepress.com/lt_goodcomputer More shirts at http://legaltshirts.com/ [Computing] You are in a twisty little passage of standards, all conflicting. --Michael Meissner, meissner at osf.org --... ...-- -.. . -. ----. --.- --.- -... tpeters at nospam.mixcom.com (remove "nospam") N9QQB (amateur radio) "HEY YOU" (loud shouting) WEB ADDRESS http//www.mixweb.com/tpeters 43? 7' 17.2" N by 88? 6' 28.9" W, Elevation 815', Grid Square EN53wc WAN/LAN/Telcom Analyst, Tech Writer, MCP, Cisco Certified CCNA

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Looking for Layered Documentation for DEC APL V4.0 circa VMS 5.4/5.5

by m.wickens＠rhodium-consulting.com

Hi, I managed to get DEC APL V4.0 working and am now looking for the associated layered documentation. It would correspond to OpenVMS Release 5.4/5.5. If anyone knows if DEC did supply layered documentation on CD for these releases at least this would be a start. Alternatively, if someone has access to the paper documentation :) The volumes I'm after are: "VAX APL Reference Manual" "VAX APL User's Guide" "VAX APL Language Summary" Many thanks to everyone who has offered their support and help so far. I can confirm that the product uses downloadable fonts for various terminals such as VT220, these work on my VT520. I'd bet there aren't many terminal emulators that can handle downloadable fonts! Regards, Mark. -- Mark Wickens Rhodium Consulting Ltd

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Data General Nova 4/X, photos

by tomj＠wps.com

A few photos at http://wps.com/NOVA4/pitchas.html I didn't want to take the machine to pieces just for photos, but next time I have cards out I'll photo most of them. I'm going to clean the heads on the disk again soon (tonight or tomorrow) so I'll photograph that apart. I'll drag out the photoflood lamp if I didn't bang its filament to death. My digital camera seems to be losing focus, it bother me, because I absolutely love this camera. It's a FujiFilm M2700. A "pocket" camera, 2.3Mpixel, but it was quite popular with pros as a "spotting" camera. I honestly don't know what battery life is; it's weeks-to-months (only good for a couple of weeks now; still the original battery). Bought it in 1998 for nearly $700. Always took great photos, but it's deteriorating, boo hoo. Scratched up, missing screws, etc. I know SLRs are better, but I'll never carry them, they become asshole magnets, get stolen, banged up, left at home, etc. I far prefer a high-quality "pocket" style, I carry it with my literally every day and use it all the time. Or maybe it's just the low light in my lab; http://wps.com/NOVA4/images/6070-cartridge3.jpg taken outside seems OK. It bothers me.

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DG board ID?

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I just picked up a board at the local scrap dealer from his junque bin, as I recognized it as a DG board of roughly the right size & shape for my Eclipse machines. It's designated "107-000261-10". Any idea what this may be? Two small ribbon connectors and a pile of 8K roms make me thing part of a cpu cardset. Jay West

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cctalk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 6

by aek＠spies.com

On Mar 1, 2005, at 9:00 PM, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: >> http://www.bitsavers.org/ > so what about www.spies.com ? Lots of stuff on > the net give the same original link and the main > site is down The person who owns spies.com decided to shut down web service. With the exception of my personal pages, including the minicomputer orphanage, it should all still be at bitsavers. This happened abruptly in January, and I didn't have time to do much other than pull the disc that had all my stuff on it, which now doesn't spin up.

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Michael's Holley got Boing Boinged

by vcf＠siconic.com

Getting Boing Boinged is like getting slashdotted but much more hip and cool: http://www.boingboing.net/ Scroll down until you get to the TV Typewriter posting, which then links to Mike's SWTPC website. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Ebay items

by jwstephens＠msm.umr.edu

This guy has a couple of pdp 11/53's and other stuff in a CNC case in the Chicago area. He probably didn't post anything here, but someone in the area might find some interesting stuff to grab. Looks like a part of a larger machine either upgraded or decomissioned. Jim Ebay Item , description 5169944715 Digital DEC VAX PDP11 pdp 11 MicroVAX II Cold War

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Want IBM 400-series account machine

by vcf＠siconic.com

Can I fantasize? I'm reading some literature on IBM accounting machines and finding them incredibly sexy. It would be a blast to actually program one and run calculations through it. So I'd love to someday get my hands on a 402, 407, etc. I'm also now more interested than ever in getting more unit record equipment. I've got a 557 interpreter and an 026 punch. It'd be nice to have a sorter (082) but what I'd really like is some sort of accounting machine or even a calculator (fat chance of that). So, that being said, if anyone every comes across anything like this, I'm buying :) Worst case, I'll build some punch card equipment from scratch. That would be even more fun. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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The future of computing/technology

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

William Donzelli <aw288 at osfn.org> wrote: > About eight years ago, when I was at the big Downers Grove, IL POP (MCI), > the front desk got a call from an MCI telemarketer trying to get them to > switch their long distance sevice. About 3 years ago I was in a Cingular Wireless store in California resolving some issues with my cell service. There was some waiting involved, so I just hung out and chatted with the staff, whom I had gotten to know as a regular customer (I had multiple lines and had to change phones sometimes, etc). They got a call from a telemarketer offering them cellular service for their business. The guy had to politely explain to the caller that their business was a cell store... MS

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Amiga Video - (was: Looks neat -- Fairchild movie on DVD)

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

> I have a pretty good Vid capture card in my system, I can save as > NTSC or PAL, save as a raw AVI, Mpeg-2, VideoCD or DVD, > so if somebody wants to send the tape to me, I can make short > work of it and post the file up onto one of my servers to D/L to > anyone who wants to burn a ton of DVD's or I can just burn > it to a master DVD and send it to whomever will make all of the DVD's Has anyone looked at the Copyright??? (if any....)

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Taking photos of displays...

by James＠jdfogg.com

> There is a 1600 Pan--something_or_other that Kodak makes > that is also fine grain. I've used it to make C size blowups > of astro pictures. It is hard to find but it is available. > Most places I went would tell me that it was only use by > professionals and they didn't carry it. I wish I could > remember that name. There are some specialty films Kodak sells that (I think) come from their movie film stocks.

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8" drive on PC troubleshooting

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Dwight K. Elvey" <dwight.elvey at amd.com> > ---snip--- > He'll have to look it up in the manual. >Dwight Hi OK, I did a little googling for Sellam. INT 1E is the pointer to the disk table. It can be found at 50:22. All this info can be found at: http://members.tripod.com/~oldboard/bios_data_area.html and http://members.tripod.com/~oldboard/assembly/int_1e.html Be prepared for a few cookies. Still, for one playing with a PC, there is a lot of info here. Anyway, Sellam, I recall that smaller numbers made the steps faster. In any case, you can experiment with the values a little. If the table isn't in RAM, you may need to make a TSR to reserve some space hide your replacement table. Have fun! Dwight

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8" drive on PC troubleshooting

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Tom Jennings" <tomj at wps.com> ---snip--- > >If it's currently 07h, or something, make it 20h, or something. >Double what's there. Good Enough (tm). > Hi This most likely won't work. As I recall, the values in the table are a bit field of a register on the controller ( only 3 or so bits ). The other bits are for different purposes. Also, as I recall, the steps are faster for larger numbers, not smaller. He'll have to look it up in the manual. Dwight

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8" drive on PC troubleshooting

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Darn, I wish I'd of thought of that! This makes sense. Dwight >From: "Steve Thatcher" <melamy at earthlink.net> > >when you are formatting tracks you have effectively slowed the stepping >rate down to a rate slow enough for the stepper motor to keep up with >(step, time to format, and then step again...). When you are returning to >track 00, the drive is stepping at the fastest rate that the controller is >configured for. > >best regards, Steve > >At 06:18 PM 03/01/2005, you wrote: > >>So what I'm wondering is why it works fine when it's stepping towards the >>center of the disk but not when it's stepping back out. >> >>As I mentioned previously, the format command actually works: it steps 77 >>tracks inward, but can't move back to track 0 to write the boot sector and >>directory. >> >>-- >> >>Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival > > >

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11/45 front panel question

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

ok, two questions. In at least the docs I have (11/45 service manual, user manual, and handbook), I can't find a clear description of how to toggle a program into memory. I'm assuming that when you enter an address in the front panel switches and hit "load addrs", that the data lights aren't supposed to automatically show the data value at that location. I'm assuming you must hit "exam" first. Is this correct? If not, I'd be autoincrementing and seeing the next data value. Can someone give me a good example of just how to enter two or three words starting at a given location? I think I can figure this out, but I'd rather be sure so I don't skip over something that isn't working correctly. Second, since it's been over 20 years since I did any MACRO-11 programming, could someone post a simple few line machine code program I can enter and run to see if the machine will even go into execute mode correctly. Maybe something that just adds two constants and stores them in another memory location. Once I'm sure the machine is working, you can bet I'll dig back into MACRO-11. For now, I'm just looking for basic store and run sanity check. Thanks for any advice/help! Jay

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8" drive on PC troubleshooting

by vcf＠siconic.com

So I made the adapter cable to connect an 8" drive to my PC. The basic connections seem to be there. I can actually format a disk from MS-DOS, at least halfway, meaning the drive goes through the motions of formatting all 77 tracks but then when it goes to write the directory and other whatnot it can't move the head back to track 0. The format aborts saying it can't write the boot sector. If I then try to DIR the disk the head backs up a track or so but can't seem to recalibrate to track 0. The head vibrates as if the drive is sending the signals to the stepper to retract the head but it only manages to move back a track or so each time I issue DIR. If I do it enough it eventually gets back to the stop position but it still gets sector errors. I verified that the drive susbsystem I'm using is good by booting RT-11 off it. I was able to access both drives in the system from RT-11. The PC system only sees drive B:, or at least when I try to access drive A: (which is configured in the BIOS as a 1.2M 5.25" floppy, as is drive B:) it does not engage the head. The notes I used to make my cable indicate that this might be what I should expect, since it said to jumper the 8" drive as Drive 1: http://home.iae.nl/users/pb0aia/cm/8-525.html "Set the drive to respond to Drive Select 1 (the default for PC drives)" (under the "Drive links" section). So I suppose it would make sense that the PC only sees drive B (drive select 1). Or does it? Any ideas? -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Want IBM 400-series account machine

by mhscc＠canada.com

-------------Original Message: Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:54:05 -0800 (PST) From: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf at siconic.com> Subject: Want IBM 400-series account machine >Can I fantasize? Can you ever... >I'm reading some literature on IBM accounting machines and finding them >incredibly sexy. It would be a blast to actually program one and run >calculations through it. Sexy, eh? hmmm, you need to get out more... FWIW, a while back I sent a box full of IBM unit record machine manuals, including some tech manuals, to Norm Aleks out in your part of the country. He was going to put them up on the web somewhere but I haven't run across them; if you're interested you might get in touch with him. I think Al had some on his site as well, and I also still have a duplicate copy for one or two machines myself. Good luck building that 402; meanwhile an emulator would be an interesting project... (I can see it now: patch panels on the screen & connecting hubs with mouse clicks & drags, virtual cards dropping into the pockets of the virtual 082 sorter, dragging a virtual card deck from the virtual 083 collator to the virtual 402, etc....) BTW, although the 402/403 &c were indeed officially called "accounting machines," they were usually referred to as "tabulating machines." The term "accounting machines" usually referred to the manual machines used in banks everywhere, mostly from NCR, Monroe & Burroughs. mike

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Duplicates...

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

Jay Jay, Just just for for your your information information, I I am am getting getting two two of of each each of of YOUR YOUR mail mail messages messages. Other list members look OK.....

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not sure this went out 11/45 status

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I finally got an hour free to dig back into my /45 restoration. Thanks to some spare boards to help test and some very good "CE quickdocs" (thanks a million ashley!), I got a little further. However, it brings me to two questions. 1) In the absence of full docs on the MF11-L... I'm not sure about the following. It looks like the 1st slot of the MF11-L backplan gets a unibus in (A-B) from the last slot of the cpu backplane. The 2nd slot is my G110, the 3rd is my G231, and the 4th slot has my H214 (C-F) in it. But looking at some of the docs, it appears that an H214 can be in slots 1, 4, and a few others per the diagram. My system arrived with one H214 in slot 4. Should it be first... in slot 1 under the unibus in? Since I had a spare from ashley, I put one in slot 1 and one in slot 4. I know the jumpers on the other boards may not reflect 16K, but I figured it might change things. So if I have just 8K set up, should the H214 be in slot 1, 4, or does it matter? 2) My front panel has an oddity (to me). If I select say address 10000 and hit load addr the address lights respond correctly with 10000. I then hit examine and get nothing (blank data lights). Whatever... but here's the interesting part. If I keep pressing examine over and over again, the address lights count up just like they should - except they skip bit zero (the rightmost bit, either 0 or 15 whatever dec nomenclature is). I don't mean that the rightmost bit just isn't displaying correctly, the actual counting sequence acts like the rightmost bit is the 2nd light from the right. I can tell it's not just a bulb problem because I don't have to hit load addr twice to "move on", the count is smooth and sequential without the rightmost bit. Any thoughts offhand? I know my memory system is likely not jumpered right. I'm looking through those jumpers either tonight or tomorrow and verify them. Thanks for any thoughts! Jay

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Age

by drb＠msu.edu

Late to the game. I always seem to get postings somewhat after others, as evidenced by seeing the originals along with most of the responses, in one batch. 1965. Got interested in ham radio in about 1972 when my father revisited that briefly, but didn't get licensed then. A school field trip in 1974 or 1975 was my first hands on -- the University of Nebraska had a machine running some variant of Spacewar (says my current knowledge), and I got to play for about 20 seconds until I got killed. I remember seeing an ad in an airline magazine in late 1975 for some machine whose identity I can't recall -- looked like an early PET (says my current knowledge again) with chiclet-style keys. Wanted it badly, but couldn't convince the parents to buy it. I didn't actually get to use a machine for real until about 1980. First real exposure was a programming class in high school -- fortran on punched cards, using the Michigan State University CDC 6500. (Anyone having a line on a copy of MSU's SCOPE/HUSTLER O/S, please let me know.) I subsequently funded my own time on that machine. Or maybe they were running most of the jobs on the 750 by then. About 6 months later, a TRS-80 model III came home, and I taught myself BASIC out of the manual over Christmas break. When my parents went overseas again in 1981, we had e-mail through The Source. I talked the school into letting me use their printing terminal (on site for some career exploration service) to dial in. Much concern over long distance telephone calls. :-) When I went to college, I bought an Osborne 1, blue, single density floppies, which I still own. [I should get that out.] Got an Epson MX-80 with graftrax, and a 1200 baud honest-to-god Hayes smartmodem too. One of the roommates wasn't impressed with the keystroke noise; another didn't like the fact that the modem auto-answered the phone one day. (I was playing with the idea of BBS software, and had gone to a terminal room to dial back into it.) I took COBOL (on cards), pascal and VAX assembler (on a VAX 780 running VMS 3.x), and 6502 assembler on 8032 and fat-40 CBM machines at the local community college. At the university, I got a student job supporting and expanding a menu-driven system which delivered horticultural info to growers statewide. It ran on PDP-11 gear, and when I first started, was running v6 unix. They upgraded to v7 while I was there. When I visited my family overseas, the project computer guys let me into their VM-370 machine, a 4331, and a DG (model? ran AOS-VS). I wheedled my way into a SAS class there too. The office machines were Vector Graphics S-100 machines, which was my first round at CP/M. I used to help the secretaries get Memorite to work, solve floppy problems, etc. One of the machines had a real ST-506 hard disk. The problem immediately became how to structure files on it so that they could find things. 10 MB, whee. Or was it 5? Later, I got a real job "over there", and managed a VAX 730 (VMS), and wrote some COBOL code for it and a 750. After struggling in college for a couple of years, I took some time off and got a job doing tech support on hardware and OS stuff, working on Prime superminis. On a work trip I stopped to see some friends; a fellow who was a grad student at Berkeley showed off a Sun workstation; shame I didn't get to play on it! The employer subsequently considered porting the application to VAXen, so a MicroVAX came to visit the office for a while, and later I was mailed off to Marlborough to benchmark on some of the bigger machines. Somewhere about 1986 I bought an SB-180, which I still have, and it was my main machine for several years. [Should get this out too.] I was lucky enough to get to test a Telebit Trailblazer from home for a fairly extended period of time. In late 1988 I bought my first PC, an NEC 386SX/16. Later, I spent time on AIX machines. I was the first sysadmin for the campus gopher and web services at MSU, hosted on an RS/6000. Picked up perl programming to help with document conversion and mounting at this point. I looked at early Linux, but first installed it and ran it for real in the 0.9 range; still using it on my desktops everywhere. Finally got my ham license in 1995, and am firmly resisting tube gear, since I have these other historical interests. (Ok, ok, so I got hooked on Moto Syntor X radios instead.) Most of the rest is too new to be "on topic". :-) It's also mostly boring by list standards. If there's a gathering in Dayton, I'd love to come along. ^[[145q De

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by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Paul Koning" <pkoning at equallogic.com> >>>>>> "Tom" == Tom Peters <tpeters at mixcom.com> writes: > > Tom> I believe this is a T-shirt with a lear-sigler ADM-3 terminal on > Tom> the front- only $11 (and up) > > Tom> http://www.cafepress.com/lt_goodcomputer > > Tom> More shirts at http://legaltshirts.com/ > >Cute... > >Maybe I should republish the T-shirt I made up in college, with the >text: > > C6 A4 83 92 > 40 C9 C2 D4 > >:-) > OK, I'll be the first to byte. What does that sequnce mean? Dwight

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8" drive on PC troubleshooting

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Fred Cisin" <cisin at xenosoft.com> > >On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Dwight K. Elvey wrote: >> >> Wrong step rate! Poke a new on eint othe chip, or does it use the old >> >> table of junk INT 13h used to supoprt? >> >> Hi >> There is a table that one stores the step rate >> for the drive. You need to alter the value for >> slower drives, like your 8 inch. I forget where >> is it but it is in that lower area someplace >> ( 40:xxx or something ). It isn't a problem >> of the controller. It should work with any controller, >> you just need to find the table and change it. >> It has been a while since I've fiddle with it >> to make my drives step with less noise ( and wear ). >> Dwight > >While the default table is often in low memory, >sometimes it is even in ROM. >It is pointed to by INT1Eh. >To alter values in the table, copy it, alter the copy, >then repoint INT1Eh to point to the new address. >Be sure to restore INT1Eh when you are done, >or INT13h may encounter serious difficulties. > >If you've got a copy of the PC Technical Reference Manual, >most of the disk parameter table is documented right after INT13h. Ah yes, the big purple book. I couldn't remember where I saw that info. Dwight

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8" drive on PC troubleshooting

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf at siconic.com> > >On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Dwight K. Elvey wrote: > >> There is a table that one stores the step rate >> for the drive. You need to alter the value for >> slower drives, like your 8 inch. I forget where >> is it but it is in that lower area someplace >> ( 40:xxx or something ). It isn't a problem >> of the controller. It should work with any controller, >> you just need to find the table and change it. >> It has been a while since I've fiddle with it >> to make my drives step with less noise ( and wear ). > >OIC. > >Are there any drives that don't require such a modification of the stepper >table? I'm not sure what drives I'm using. They're mounted in an >enclosure and I'm too lazy to dismount them to check. > Hi For 8 inchers, I doubt that their are any that are fast enough for the standard 5-1/4 step rates. There was a program out there that modifies the step rates. I know it is on the web someplace. As I recall, it would try the full span of steps available and watch for errors. I would guess that this would work for your 8 inchers, even though, it was inteneded to be used to optimize the steps for faster drives. Maybe one of the others can remember what it is called. Of course, you are always the one that states that one should do a good google search first ;) Dwight

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Anybody need a battery for a Dell laptop?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Found today. Still wrapped up like new but can't test since it doesn't fit my Dell. Dell PN 32499. This is supposed to fit the secondary compartment on the Latitude LS, LX and M models. Joe

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UPDATE: Texas Instruments 990 business computer

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

1978(?) Texas Instruments 990 business computer. The owner wants $750 for it. Too much for me, but certainly a nice system. See photo links below. There is also an external drive system, not sure if floppy or HD - it's at her house. http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/system-1.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/system-2.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/system-3.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/system-4.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/system-5.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/front-1.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/manuals.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/ti-990.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/ds10.jpg (these photos are in my ebay directory, but the system is not in my possession, and certainly not on ebay) This system is in Los Angeles. Anyone want to pick it up for $750? Must take all of it! Steve. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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web page translation tool

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

> http://www.degraeve.com/translator.php > > Way off topic. > Hint: You have to use the full address including http:// in the > input box on the page above. > It is missing PaperTape can Punched Card formats [then it would be on-topic] btw: I literally fell of my chair for about 10 minutes....

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Taking photos of displays...

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Recent discussion about photographing machines prompted this one. Has anyone got any useful tips for photographing (with a digital camera) running machines such that whatever's on the screen is captured with some kind of decent quality? I've been playing around with all the manual settings on my camera and just experimenting (using any kind of auto mode results in banding on the computer's display, and of course use of flash is no use for a shot of a glass screen). So far results have been mixed though... Any useful hints much appreciated! cheers Jules

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classic X86 hardware

by dr.ido＠bigpond.net.au

At 04:34 PM 2/28/05 -0500, you wrote: >On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 15:00 -0500, 9000 VAX wrote: >> Before you guys start to laugh at me, I would like to itemize some. >> 1. The original IBM PC 5150/5160 MB >> 2. The HP 100LX, 200LX palm PC >> 3. The original Nexgen pentium class PC >> 4. The IBM "butterfly" 486 laptop >> 5. You name it The Compaq Deskpro 386 for beating IBM to market. The Tandy 1000 series for outliving the PCjr that it was a clone of. I'm not familiar with the Nexgen, was it anything like the Compaq Deskpro 5/60? EISA bus (no PCI), motherboard chipset was Compaq's own. It would have to be one of the 1st Pentium based PCs, but mines too hard to get at for me to go looking for date codes.

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New Retro Game programming book...

by bpope＠wordstock.com

Retro Game Programming: Unleashed for the Masses http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/mag.dyn/News/9013.html Cheers, Bryan Pope

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C Users Journal archives?

by trixter＠oldskool.org

I am going crazy trying to find the text of an article in the October 1992 issue of "The C Users Journal" without paying $80 (the official fee of the CDROM containing all the texts). Does anyone have this issue and would be willing to scan a few pages for me? I'd be willing to pay you $10 or so for your time... -- Jim Leonard (trixter at oldskool.org) http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/

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New Day - New Finds!

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

One of my sources got a new load today. I went by and checked it out and found a HP 1000 F Series computer. It's been pretty badly beaten up but it has a full load of cards so I'll probably use it for parts. Also found a double sized battery backup/power fail battery for a HP 1000. Also found a weird set of black boxs that appear to be made for aircraft use. They're all marked Ampex DCRSi. One is marked Transport and has a large tape drive built in the top of it. The others are marked Recorder, Reproduce and then a Power Supply. Does anyone know anything about these? They're very unusual looking. Also found a pile of NIB Intel AboveBoards for the PC AT, a bunch of various cards with some interesting ICs that I'll pull and add to the parts bins, a Tektronix 4041 computer and two Tektronix 4041DDU Disk Drive Units for the 4041. But one of the nicest finds was a optical paper tape reader that can be set to read 5, 6 or 8 level PT. Changing the 5, 6, 8 switch raises and lowers different sets of guide pins in the reader mechanism and moves the PT left or right so that it lines up with the drive sprocket. The front says Data Precision DP203 and the back says Membrain AH30218. There have been some Membrain computer(?) cards showing up out there so I'm guessing that this came off of some kind of Membrain computer but was actually made by DP. Does anyone have any info on it? Joe

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Kicked out

by waisun.chia＠gmail.com

Jay, Just to inform you that I was kicked out of the list, which I've since resubscribed again. I noted that other long gone ex-list members were resurrected accidentally too... Good luck. /wai-sun

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Kicked out

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

> If you subscribe to both, you WILL get double > posts. Or more precisely, you'll get double > posts of everything the moderator deems as > being on-topic and single posts of everything > the moderator deams as off-topic. Of course, if one auto-archive the ccTech list, then they get (in theory) a good archive of all of the topical information. Interactive reading is done on the ccTalk list. This technique works good for me, especially if a period of time elapses where I dont have the time to view and make manual decisions on all of the posts...

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Duplicate post notice, please read...

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

> He's getting duplicate posts because he's subscribed to both > lists, cctech and cctalk. Jay for the specific post I was mentioning the "To:" field is set to ccTalk at classiccmp.org in BOTH copies. NOT one copy addressed to ccTalk and the other to ccTech.....

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Wanted: Amiga A2410 graphics adapter

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

I'm looking for the above card. It's the hi-res video card for the A3000UX (and I think A2500UX) Amigas. As far as I know, it only runs in Amiga UNIX. If you have one to trade, sell or give away, let me know off-list, and how much you want for it. I'm in Austin, Texas, US, ZIP code 78748. Doc

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Want IBM 400-series account machine

by marvin＠rain.org

One book that has quite a bit of interesting information on these machines is "Punched Card Data processing" by Gustave Rath. I lucked out at the last TRW swap meet and found this along with "Industrial Calculating Devices" by Wilcox, Butler. The first book is available on ABE for about $9.00 or so, but the other book is a little more pricey at around $40.00. Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > > I'm reading some literature on IBM accounting machines and finding them > incredibly sexy. It would be a blast to actually program one and run > calculations through it. > > So I'd love to someday get my hands on a 402, 407, etc.

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classic X86 hardware

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

>>> Before you guys start to laugh at me, I would like to itemize some. >>> 1. The original IBM PC 5150/5160 MB >>> 2. The HP 100LX, 200LX palm PC >>> 3. The original Nexgen pentium class PC >>> 4. The IBM "butterfly" 486 laptop >>> 5. You name it > >The first Compaq portable; it was notable for it's "portability" >but also it's high degree of IBM compatiblity (for the time). The Hyperion - the first PC portable (narrowly beat Compaq), cuter and smaller than the Compaq. Notable for it's *low* degree of IBM compatibility. [Actually it isn't *that* bad, but there are a few differences which prevent a number of poorly bahaved applications >from running] - Deserves extra points for choosing an obscure, off- the wall floppy drive with reliability problems, and molding the bezel so that other drives could not be easily substituted. These two factors gave a bad taste to what was otherwise a very nice little machine. I'd also add the Portfolio, as the first MS-DOS palmtop, and possibly the T1000 as one of the earliest successful laptop format PCs. For strictly personal reasons, and moving away from "IBM PC's", I would vote for the Nabu 1600 - 8086 based, ran CP/M-86, MS-DOS, Xenix and eventually QNX, using serial consoles. I had about 1/2 dozen of them at one time, my first machine with a hard drive, and the first that ran a "real" multi-user system - but almost nobody has ever heard of them... Regards, -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Collector of vintage computing equipment: http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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Taking photos of displays...

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "der Mouse" <mouse at rodents.montreal.qc.ca> ---snip--- > >I don't know why they didn't look coloured. Perhaps because the light >level was too low for much colour vision? Hi Yes, that's the problem. I found that if one goes into normal light for a few minutes and then returns to the dark, you'll see much more color. I used this trick for comets. Comets are a nice aqua blue color. Dwight

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Taking photos of displays...

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Fred Cisin" <cisin at xenosoft.com> ---snip--- > >Does anybody have a good collection of Rainbow magazine? >There was a mediocre article in it (all the really GOOD stuff about >flat field lenses, etc. got edited out) > Hi To get a flat field, use a telephoto lens. The farther away you can get from the unit the better the depth of focus. It does require a tripod for a good image. Dwight

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list server problems

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

In case anyone can't tell, I'm having some pretty severe problems with the mailman software :\ All I can say is I'm working on it :\ Jay

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PING Fred VanKempen

by jpl15＠panix.com

Fred, if you're getting messages at all, pls contact me, thanks. If anyone else on the List has heard from Fred, or knows how to get a Message through to him, please if possible ask him to write me privately. Thanks! Cheers John

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Cromemco Software - what to do with it?

by mhstein＠canada.com

Sent this a few days ago & haven't seen it appear on the list for some reason; apologies if I'm duplicating. m ------- Start of forwarded message ------- Subject: Cromemco Software - what to do with it? From: mhstein at canada.com Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 00:46:26 -0800 (PST) To: cctalk at classiccmp.org I've been cleaning up the hard disks in my Cromemco systems in preparation for getting rid of them (no, they're not available at this time), and I have a question: There are numerous systems out there, and Herb and Howard et al are doing a great job of archiving the documentation, but what about the software? Is anybody archiving the various versions of CDOS, Cromix & Unix, and the languages & applications? For that matter, is there any point? I don't see many people writing Cobol or Fortran programs to run on a System 3... So, any ideas what to do with it? (no obscene suggestions, please!) BTW, any news about what happened with Don Maslin's collection? mike

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OSI Software Find!

by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

Well, since my C4P-MF has been rock solid stable since I fitted the new power supply and cleaned the drive head, I've been going through a bunch of 25 (and more) year old diskettes to see just what I have. Lo-and-behold! On a diskette simply labeled OS65D 3.2 (not originally mine, acquired I don't know where), I found really nice machine code implementations of Space Invaders and Asteroids! You don't usually see machine code programs on OSI diskettes, the OS was too crude to have a simple binary loader. Diskettes usually have BASIC programs, with maybe a couple of USR$ sub-routines in data statements. To load and execute the programs, you have to EXIT from BASIC into the sub-monitor and then load the diskette tracks into memory one at a time. Once you have it loaded, then you GO to the starting address. I think that these programs might have been originally intended to be loaded from cassette tape. Fortunately, the diskette had two BASIC programs, each of which PRINTs the instructions for loading the machine code programs. I'm really happy about this! People usually see OSI boxes running rather slow interpreted BASIC programs. These two programs show just what an OSI box can do. There is no attribution for the Asteroids program, but the Space Invaders is copyright 1980 by Michael Kincaid. Can't wait to show these at TCF! Bill

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Age

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

> It could be interesting to know the age"spread" of thist list > contributors, and how long we've had the computer virus >under our skin. 37, been computing since 1981 when my dad brought a ZX80 into the house and found meself to be amazed that I could tell it to do things in an english like language and it would just work. No tape recorder though, so I sharp learned the value of writing things down for later re-entry :) From there I went to the ZX81, Spectrum, Amiga 500 and then (spit) pc. However, I bought as many computing based magazines as I could afford, not realising that 20 years later I'd be getting hold of quite a lot of the machines featured in said magazines, though I still haven't tracked down a DAI :) Workwise I started in Operations on a dual-node ICL 2966 mainframe in 1984 then got the PDP bug when my old computing lecturer in college got me back in because he'd seen (apparently) fledgling interest on my part. The rest is all DEC based history..... cheers w

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classic X86 hardware

by Innfogra＠aol.com

At a rummage sale last weekend I picked up a 1991 Leading Technology 7000DX, an original 25 MHz 386 with a first gen NEC SCSI external CD-ROM, speakers, mouse, Keyboard, VGA monitor. What made it was all the original books and software including about a dozen games of the early 90s including DOOM II. I couldn't resist the box of SW and books. It was $5 for all. It wasn't till I got it home that I realized it is one of the first 386s (must remember to check which chip is in it). I think it is based on the magictronic board set. It had a proprietary memory card which you could load up with up to 8 megs of RAM (this one has 6 Meg.). I think it was really just used as a household games machine. Did have windows 3.1 installed but it really was used as a DOS 5.0 computer. It is a classic in its own right...and over 10 years old. Paxton Astoria, OR

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AM29116DC cpu??

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Does anyone have any information about this part? I've been told that it's a high performance microprocessor. I found it on what looks like a hex size DEC card made by Spectra Logic Corp. I found a picture of one on the net but it's not very good. <http://www.cpushack.net/gallery/showimg.php?file=/chippics/AMD/29K/AMDAM291 16DC.jpg> Joe

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Age

by john＠guntersville.net

There was a mention of " real radios glow in the dark" which brought back memories of the first logic equipment that I worked on back in the 60s. It didn't glow in the dark since the little pencil tubes didn't put out a lot of light like the larger ones. The equipment was all digital and all tube based. The later generations were solid state (potted logic ice cube modules) and discrete components, no ICs then. They weren't computers that you could program but specialized processors.... I still have some of those "glow in the dark radios" and test equipment.

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origins of IBM 3740 diskette format

by cisin＠xenosoft.com

Yes, but,... In FORTRAN, columns 73 - 80 are reserved for housekeeping, such as resequencing dropped decks. THerefore, the information content in FORTRAN could be said to be 72 bytes per card, NOT 80.

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Age

by stevew＠ka6s.com

I'm 49. Started at age 15 by learning to program an Olivetti Programma 101 - http://www.science.uva.nl/faculteit/museum/Programma101.html for those who care. Shortly there after I started learning about "Gotran" and got to run a couple of programs on a IBM1620 at Occidental College in Pasadena. Shortly there-I started learning Watfor, and got access to the IBM370 at USC. You could walk in off the street with a deck and get 15 seconds of execution time for nothing. There were a few other high-school students doing the same thing I imagine. Anyway - I took a Fortran class trough Glendale Community College after my Senior year in high-school and learned Fortran, then Cobol on a Burroughs B2500 that Glendale Unified had. Next the Junior College got a Nova 2/10 (I think..) and I became one of the two computer operators. Learned Basic and ws the lab assistant for that. It ran a DOS by Ball if I recall correctly. It had a card reader that kept blowing up ;-) and 4 ASR-28s that people ran Basic on when it wasn't trying to run Fortran. The other computer lab assistant got an Altair (had serial number 3 of 8K Basic..) and we both drove to New Mexico for the very first personal computer convention in 75. Went on to four year college and majored in EE. Saw a Bendix G15 there (didn't use it), and PDP-11's running RSTS. Did my senior project on an LSI-11 in Fortran. Went to work for Burroughs as a computer designer on the B1000 series - Did that for 3 years. Later worked at Cydrome on the Cydra-5 (a mini-supercomputer ) around 85. Worked at National semi in the 32K architecture group also for about 9 months before went into consulting. I would love to help resurrect a B1965 or a Cydra. Steve Wilson

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Age

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

woodelf <bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca> wrote: > C was nice until it got standardised. Then use pre-standardisation C (K&R C) like I do! MS

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largest private DEC collection in USA to be sold.

by recycler＠swbell.net

Hello, I've been asked to post this notice. We are liquidating, as a lot, all or part, the largest DEC computer collection in private hands (that we know of). Includes several pdp8 systems, pdp11's, many VAXen, a rare Pro-380 integrated desk system, rainbows, KIMS box, decmate or vaxmate, as well as peripherals, software on paper tape, dectape, 8" and 5.25 floppys, spare boards, parts, etc., cables, loot and booty, even the sacred |d|i|g|i|t|a|l| speakers' podium from the DEC ACT in Dallas, Texas and the DEC 'bricks' which used to adorn the wall in the reception area. Also, for contrast, a pleasing assortment of other systems including a diverse collection of early (floppy only) laptops, (including several sony SMC-210's which are made of unobtanium), several IBM Mainframe test boxes, beehive terminals, floppy disk drive tester, Tektronix 4014 graphics terminal, the original analog disk drive fromt the first Ampex slo-mo instant replay system installed at Cowboys Stadium, you name it, Osborne 1, Apples, commodores, compaq luggables, IMSAI 8080 with lots of spares, SWTPC computer, maybe 10 VT100 types, TI Professional portable, everything right down to the nuts and bolts. Has been stored in a 30x40 climate controlled building which is packed. Most all of it was working when removed, and has been stored. There's more I can't think of right now, but have a look at the web page (its' incomplete too, but it is what it is): http://www.montagar.com/~patj/hcsale/index.html The collection is available for $8000 all or part FOB Dallas, Texas. We estimate 2-3 moving vans. Viewing reccommended and by appointment please. Best regards, Patrick Jankowiak

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VC8/I Point Plot Controller

by chd_1＠nktelco.net

I have been playing around with a collection of old Flip Chips that I have and put together a VC8/I compatible scope controller for my PDP8/e. You can find a page about it here http://www.chd.dyndns.org/pdp8/VC8/ The only reason this was possible was because I had two 10-bit D/A converters (A618), the rest of the modules are pretty common. Thanks to David Gesswein for some test programs. -chuck

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11/45 status

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I finally got an hour free to dig back into my /45 restoration. Thanks to some spare boards to help test and some very good "CE quickdocs" (thanks a million ashley!), I got a little further. However, it brings me to two questions. 1) In the absence of full docs on the MF11-L... I'm not sure about the following. It looks like the 1st slot of the MF11-L backplan gets a unibus in (A-B) from the last slot of the cpu backplane. The 2nd slot is my G110, the 3rd is my G231, and the 4th slot has my H214 (C-F) in it. But looking at some of the docs, it appears that an H214 can be in slots 1, 4, and a few others per the diagram. My system arrived with one H214 in slot 4. Should it be first... in slot 1 under the unibus in? Since I had a spare from ashley, I put one in slot 1 and one in slot 4. I know the jumpers on the other boards may not reflect 16K, but I figured it might change things. So if I have just 8K set up, should the H214 be in slot 1, 4, or does it matter? 2) My front panel has an oddity (to me). If I select say address 10000 and hit load addr the address lights respond correctly with 10000. I then hit examine and get nothing (blank data lights). Whatever... but here's the interesting part. If I keep pressing examine over and over again, the address lights count up just like they should - except they skip bit zero (the rightmost bit, either 0 or 15 whatever dec nomenclature is). I don't mean that the rightmost bit just isn't displaying correctly, the actual counting sequence acts like the rightmost bit is the 2nd light from the right. I can tell it's not just a bulb problem because I don't have to hit load addr twice to "move on", the count is smooth and sequential without the rightmost bit. Any thoughts offhand? I know my memory system is likely not jumpered right. I'm looking through those jumpers either tonight or tomorrow and verify them. Thanks for any thoughts! Jay

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Unsubscribe - please!!

by rogersda＠cox.net

Dunno who put me back on this list, after a about a year; maybe the list was restored from a really old backup. But I really don't have the time nor storage space to keep up with it. Please take me back off the list. Dale

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lk201 question

by rogersda＠cox.net

The LK201-BA is a standard LK201-AA with keycaps to use with the DEC WPS operating system. If it's working correctly, it works fine as a standard keyboard. The "Orange" PF1 key was GOLD when it left the factory. Hence the various WPS versions were known as "GOLD KEY" word processing. Most commonly, those keyboards were sold with the DECmate II & III (PDP-8 based) personal computers. Dale > > From: Paul Koning <pkoning at equallogic.com> > Date: 2005/02/28 Mon PM 12:37:32 EST > To: cctalk at classiccmp.org > CC: (Unparsable address -- End of addresses in middle of :...; > group: "General Discussion:On-Topic and Off-Topic > Posts<cctalk at classiccmp.org>_^_") > Subject: Re: lk201 question > > >>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin Handy <kth at srv.net> writes: > > Kevin> Mike wrote: > >> I just picked up a lk201 keyboard today that wouldn't work with a > >> vt320 > >> > >> Unlike my other lk201's this one has blue strip across the top, an > >> orange pf1 key, f20 is labeled Hyph Push > >> > >> PN: LK201BA > >> > >> One site selling them says it is a word processing keyboard. > >> > >> > Kevin> There were several word processing keyboards, depending on > Kevin> which software you were using. DecWord, WordPerfect, > Kevin> All-In-One, etc. > > I doubt that DEC ever made keyboards for WordPerfect. And I haven't > heard of All-In-One keyboards either. The keyboard Mike mentioned is > a DECword keyboard. > > Kevin> Check the keyboard-terminal cable. Check for stuck keys. > > One possibility: you could make an adapter to plug it into a UART > port, then write a test program to see what's wrong with it. The > protocol is simple (4800 baud 8 bit messages) and well documented in > the Pro 300 series technical manual. > > Then again, if it's a stuck key or something like that, the keyboard > is beyond repair. LK201 keyboards are cheesy low quality membrane > switches that cannot be disassembled or cleaned or repaired. If > moisture ever gets in them, your only option is to scrap the board. I > found this out the hard way. > > paul > >

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Matrox card?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I have an old Matrox video card that I can't find out much about. It's actually two cards sandwiched together. It looks vaguely like a VME card but has connectors on the side and not on the edge of the card. The connectors look like S-bus connectors like those used in Sun computers. There is one connector in the middle along one edge and a second identical connector offset to one side. The video connector in on the metal mounting plate on the opposite of the card from the S-bus connectors. It's a 13W3 type connector like those used on many SUN, HP and SGI computers. The card is marked Matrox Electronics Systems SG3-1152B/BASE 0385-06-02 Made in Canada Copyright 1990". The only reference that I could find on the net says "I found an old triple-width, > dual-sbus slot graphics card made by Matrox and labelled an SG3. > When booting NetBSD/sparc is identifies it as a cgtwelve." Anybody know any more about it? Joe

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#3 MORE Free SUN stuff!

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

More S-bus cards for SUN systems. QLogic 3701703 Single Ended Wide SCSI controller. SUN 5011902 Differential SCSI/Ethernet controller. 3 ea. Cisco Ethernet s-bus card. Marked "CDDI/MLT-3". Status and Ringop Indicator lights. Model WA-C303TA. SUN 370-3328 FDDI Interface. See <http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Devices/Communication/COMM_FDDI_S_SAS_ 4.html> joe

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OSI Software Find!

by wh.sudbrink＠verizon.net

Well, since my C4P-MF has been rock solid stable since I fitted the new power supply and cleaned the drive head, I've been going through a bunch of 25 (and more) year old diskettes to see just what I have. Lo-and-behold! On a diskette simply labeled OS65D 3.2 (not originally mine, acquired I don't know where), I found really nice machine code implementations of Space Invaders and Asteriods! You don't usually see machine code programs on OSI diskettes, the OS was too crude to have a simple binary loader. Diskettes usually have BASIC programs, with maybe a couple of USR$ sub-routines in data statements. To load and execute the programs, you have to EXIT from BASIC into the sub-monitor and then load the diskette tracks into memory one at a time. Once you have it loaded, then you GO to the starting address. I think that these programs might have been originally intended to be loaded from casette tape. Fortunately, the diskette had two BASIC programs, each of which PRINTs the instructions for loading the machine code programs. I'm really happy about this! People usually see OSI boxes running rather slow interpreted BASIC programs. These two programs show just what an OSI box can do. There is no attribution for the Asteriods program, but the Space Invaders is copyright 1980 by Michael Kincaid. Can't wait to show these at TCF! Bill

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Age

by wmaddox＠pacbell.net

> It could be interesting to know the age"spread" of thist list contributors, > and how long we've had the computer virus under our skin. I am 43, born in 1961. I got a small amount of exposure to coding in BASIC and FORTRAN in a summer "computer camp" for high school students, but my serious hands-on experience with computing really got underway when I built an IMSAI 8080 >from a kit in 1977. I attended college at Carnegie-Mellon University, which was a hard-core DEC shopw during the time I was there, with PDP-10s, DECSYSTEM-20s, PDP-11s, and VAXen everywhere. I also got to play with the Altos and the PERQs, the latter sometimes more than I cared to. I've had a longstanding interest in computer history, and obtained my first classic machine, a PDP-8, while I was still living in Pittsburgh. I put it in storage shortly thereafter, however, and moved to California for graduate studies. I ended up staying and working in the Silicon Valley, and for almost 20 years my historical interests remained purely academic. VCF 6.0 changed that, and reawakened my interest with the realization that not only were old computers more fun back then, but they still are today! I started collecting old machines again a little over a year ago, and haven't looked back. Strangely, but like a few others here, my nostalgia is reserved primarily for machines *earlier* than the ones I used. Switches and blinkenlights, core memory, hardwired control, no LSI -- that kind of thing. I think that I balk at thinking of anything I remember well as being truly *old*. ;) --Bill

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Top Posting, was Re: ASR33 $1000+ And Counting...

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 11:48 PM 2/24/2005, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: >Actually, it'd be interesting to see what some user interface gurus and >human-computer interface types (i.e. people who study these issues in >depth, including the psychology, physics, physiology, etc.) would say >about this. From what little research I've done, I'll bet they'd say that >top posting is inefficient and confusing in general. I went looking to see if Tog ever talked about it. All I found were these interesting and funny links. http://www.asktog.com/Bughouse/bhWindows.html http://inconnu.isu.edu/~ken/sigs_page.html - John

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More New Toys!

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Nasty of them to do that. Maybe make a motor generator :) Dwight >From: "Steve Thatcher" <melamy at earthlink.net> > >AMC used a resonant transformer in the Em series. It has no primary taps on >it for switching voltages. It also needs to run at the required frequency. >Joe's first thought of scavenging the transformer (and cap) from other box >is the only way to go. > >best regards, Steve Thatcher > >At 08:07 PM 02/25/2005, Dwight K. Elvey wrote: >> >From: "Joe R." <rigdonj at cfl.rr.com> >> > >>---snip--- >> > >> > I also found another Applied MicroSystems microprocessor Diagnostic >> >Emulator unit. These one is an EMM-188 for the 8080 and 8085 CPUs. I also >> >got an EMM-188 pod with it for testing 8080 circuits. It appears to be in >> >new condition, there's just one problem, it's wired for 220VAC 50Hz! I also >> >got the original fitted case for it but it has a problem too. The interior >> >was made of that foam that likes to turn to goo after a while! It took a >> >bit to get everything cleaned up! Anybody know what it takes to convert one >> >of these back to 110 volts or do I just swap the xformer out of one of the >> >podless ones that I have? >> > >> > >> >>Hi >>1. Use another transformer of about half the core weight as >>an autotransformer to step the voltage up to the 220V. This >>doesn't have to be a 110 in to 220 out full transformer, just >>one that has the split primary. You only use the primary. >>2. Look to see if the transformer already has two primary windings >>that can be arranged for 110v. >>Dwight > > >

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lk201 question

by kenziem＠sympatico.ca

I just picked up a lk201 keyboard today that wouldn't work with a vt320 Unlike my other lk201's this one has blue strip across the top, an orange pf1 key, f20 is labeled Hyph Push PN: LK201BA One site selling them says it is a word processing keyboard. red lights and an error 4 on a VT 330. How many variations of LK201 were produced? Are they interchangeable? Also heard about a PLATO system now online, I'm waiting for more details. -- Collector of vintage computers http://www.ncf.ca/~ba600 Machines to trade http://www.ncf.ca/~ba600/trade.html Open Source Weekend http://www.osw.ca

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UPDATE on Texas Instruments 990 business computer

by tosteve＠yahoo.com

1978(?) Texas Instruments 990 business computer. The owner wants $750 for it. Too much for me, but certainly a nice system. See photo links. There is also an external drive system, not sure if floppy or HD - it's at her house. http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/system-1.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/system-2.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/system-3.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/system-4.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/system-5.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/front-1.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/manuals.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/ti-990.jpg http://members.cox.net/stengel/ebay/ds10.jpg (these photos are in my ebay directory, but the system is not in my possession, and certainly not on ebay) This system is in Los Angeles. Anyone want to pick it up for $750? Must take all of it! Steve. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

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by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote: > I have no bits of paper for computing (or > electronics for that matter) at all. But you have a Ph.D., don't you? What is it in? Physics? MS

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by classiccmp＠crash.com

Okay, why not... Born in 1968, currently 36. First regular interaction was with an Apple ][ in about 1980-81, and some time on ASR33's talking to an unknown DEC BASIC timesharing system run by the Philadelphia public school system. Got an Apple //e in highschool. College brought a VAX-11/750 running VMS4.4 in late 1986; and Macs, Zenith IBM-clones, DEC Rainbows, and when I was allowed to visit the Inner Circle assorted S-100 gear. For one project I did a paper design (circuit and ucode) around the 74181 ALU, maybe someday I'll dust it off and actually build it. Didn't finish my degree before I got a job at MIT, as part of DECs ESL agreement - "hire a couple people, stop calling our support staff all the time, and we'll give you huge discounts." So it was mostly VMS and Unix support, noodling around on everything from MVIIs to 8800s. But I also wound up with a Sun-3/60 on my desk for duping tapes under their license program, and answered a lot of questions about them too. Every now and then I got a treat and someone would call me to look at a problem with their SGI gear... Lots of things since, but this is getting long. Not much discipline to the collection. DEC stuff (pdp-11, vax, alpha), Moto m88k, Nat Semi 32k, CompuPro S-100, and a couple Apple 8 bitters. --Steve.

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by javickers＠solutionengineers.com

Born 1973, currently 31. First experience/sight of a computer was at around age 9-10 at primary school, when the class got to use a loaned BBC 'B' for a day. I was hooked there & then. I didn't see another computer until I went to secondary school. The computer lab there had: about 8 ZX Spectrums in a network (of sorts), 1 BBC 'B' (which spent most of its life playing Revs), and one Sharp MZ-80K (which I acquired a few years later). Sometime between 1982 and 1985, Dad had an Apple ][ Europlus on loan from works; he learned DBase, I learned Apple Basic - which I've long since forgotten. I do recall a rather good helicopter game though (one rescued soldiers or somesuch from burning buildings. Also a flight simulator game, which ate many a child-hood hour. In February 1984, Dad ordered a Sinclair QL, which eventually showed up in about June or July. I used that in its barebones 128k twin MDV setup for about seven years, before finally buying disk drives (Well, a 5.25" single drive), then extra memory, then a Gold Card, then twin 3.5" drives, before finally retiring it for good in about 1994. I still have that QL, & most of the accessories I ever bought/acquired. Between 1986 and 1990 - I have long forgotten the actual dates, and I almost forgot the actual machine! - I owned a ZX Spectrum - which I later swapped for a CBM Plus/4 + games. During the same period, I had a BBC 'B' on loan; with a very flakey keyboard connector which I eventually had to replace myself, using ordinary stranded ribbon cable. Euch. It never was quite the same after that. At sometime between 1990-1992, someone (I never met them) asked me to write some software on a Commodore PET 8032SK; I got to play with the complete system (it included an 8040(?) double drive unit & printer). Around this sort of time I made the fatal error of selling the Sharp MZ-80K for ?10 to a mate. Oops. The PET system eventually went back to its owner in about 1993 (I think) - software un-written. In 1994, I finished college & went to work, starting on a 486DX33. I got my own PC the same year (a DX2/66), and have used PCs to work on ever since. My classic comps collection, though, didn't really get going until 2000, when I bought another QL. And another one.... I have about 7 now. Also a BBC B, a BBC Master, a Spectrum or 4, a ZX81, a pair of Osborne 1's, a collection of PETs (including an 8032-SK), a pair of MZ-80K's, 2 -80A's and an -80B, and so on. Big iron wise, I would covet a Vax 8800 (as used at N. Staffs Polyversity), but have to make do with an HP 1000F & an A700. So there you go... I am currently slimming down my oversized collection somewhat, as it's getting to be a PITA to haul around everytime I move house (4 times in 5 years so far). Cheers, Ade.

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Taking photos of displays...

by swtpc6800＠comcast.net

Many years ago when a EGA monitors were new, we had a Professional photographer take product shots of our DOS base software. He set up the PC in a room where he could turn off the lights, He took 3 second exposures of the screen then fired a strobe to get the computer case. I have found the long exposures give good results. You need a tripod. Simple point and shoot digital cameras don't allow for an external strobe. I have used two methods to get around this. Turn down the lights (turn off the flash) and take a picture of the screen. Use a normal or dim brightness setting on the montior. Turn up the lights (or tun on the flash) and take a second picture of the complete system. Use a photo editing package to merge the two images. http://www.swtpc.com/mholley/CT_1024/CT1024_Index.htm I have also adjusted the lighting to low level and taken a single shot. http://home.comcast.net/~swtpc6800/CT_1024_New/CT1024_ebay3.jpg I am currently selling this SWTPC CT-1024 TV Typewriter on eBay. (item number: 5169085449.) I have 4 working TV Typewriters, I need some room for new projects. Michael Holley www.swtpc.com/mholley

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by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Born in the year of the transistor. My first programming experiences were 6800 and 8080 machine code. I then went on to use PLM-80, a little PASCAL and BASIC. My first computer was a Poly-88 that I bought used for $400. I was one of the ones that went to the West Coast Computer Fair to buy my first floppy drive. While there, I picked up a listing of Forth. Up to that time, writing large programs was a mystery to me. How was it that one could use something like BASIC to actually do something significant. Forth taught me how to factor problems and because of its natural flow to create significant programs on the fly. For a long time, I tried to convince people how right Forth was compared to other languages. I've since come to realize that people all think differently. Some like the comfort of natural languages ( BASIC ) while others like the compactness of programs ( APL ). Some feel that millions can't be wrong ( C ), while others like to explore the abstract ( SmallTalk ). I just like to get working programs as quick as I can so I can fiddle some more with the hardware. Each to their own. Dwight

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Test

by jim＠g1jbg.co.uk

Hi, I don't seem to have received any messages since Saturday - is the list down, or is it my ISP? Thanks Jim. Please see our website the " Vintage Communication Pages" at WWW.G1JBG.CO.UK

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by jhfinexgs2＠compsys.to

I was born on July 24th, 1938. If I am not the oldest member, then someone else will have to answer - unless I missed your response. By the way, what is the current (unique) list count: cctalk / cctech? Remember that I am a software addict (as opposed to 95% who are hardware addicts) using MACRO-11 under RT-11. My first system in 1960 was the IBM 650 (which has been discussed recently) using SOAP (Symbolic Optimal Assembly Program) as the name of the Assembly Language. The optimal referred to the location of the instructions on the drum which were placed in the next available location on the drum so that the instruction was available ASAP after the previous instruction was finished. The drum size was 2000 words of 10 decimal digits - or about the equivalent of 20 KBytes. I probably used the IBM 1620 in 1961 with assembler. I seem to remember the Univac 1107 in 1963 with FORTRAN. The IBM 7094 arrived in 1965 with FORTRAN and assembler. Then came the CDC 3300 in 1967 with assembler. The next 5 or 8 years are a bit of a haze. The CDC STAR-100 was included during that time period using assembler and MALUS. I seem to remember about 1 MByte of core memory and a program address space of 32 TerraByes (with a 48 bit address). I can't remember the disk drives at all. The PDP-11/05 seemed to arrive around 1975 with MACRO-11 under V02.? of RT-11. The disk drive was a DEC RK05 with 2.5 MBytes per removable media. I think the memory was 32 KBytes of core. Although I occasionally used a VAX after that, I seem to remember running RT-11 on a PDP-11 of some kind ever since 1975. At present I have many Qbus PDP-11 systems available with most not assembled. If I ever get the energy, there are probably enough parts to put together about 2 dozen Qbus PDP-11 systems, mostly PDP-11/23 and PDP-11/73. I still design and write programs, mostly in MACRO-11. But lately, I tend to run RT-11 under an emulator since the emulated features are much better than the real DEC PDP-11/83 that is still available. Sincerely yours, Jerome Fine -- If you attempted to send a reply and the original e-mail address has been discontinued due a high volume of junk e-mail, then the semi-permanent e-mail address can be obtained by replacing the four characters preceding the 'at' with the four digits of the current year.

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Found another Commodore calculator

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Added a model 886D to the collection and now I have 4 different Commodores.

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Sprite OS trouble.

by jkunz＠unixag-kl.fh-kl.de

Hi. I am trying to bring up a Sprite cluster. [1] I was able to get the demo system running on a SPARCstation 1+ by dd-ing the boot image to a disk. Now I wane label an additional disk, make LFS, ... make the new disk bootable to get more free disk space then I have on the premade boot image. But I can't get a label on the disk with labeldisk nor did I succeed using fsmakeprompt. The later crashes... Next step is to bring a SPARCstation 2, an IPX and two ELCs into the cluster. Is there someone out there with Sprite experience who can help me? Additionaly I was not able to get the PMAX image to work on my DECstation 5000/240 nor my DECstation 3100. Any ideas? Do I really need a DECstation 5000/200 for this? [1] http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/Research/Projects/sprite/ A mixed architecture, distributed single system image OS capable of process migration that presented the cluster to a user as a single, large multiprocessor machine. Pmake and LFS (Log-Structured File System) originate from Sprite. -- tsch??, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/

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Back to the future

by mhscc＠canada.com

Just watched a Stephen Hawking documentary last night; looks like he was wrong: time does go backwards when the universe contracts (as it's apparently doing) - the cctalk archive already has messages from 2008 & 2025 :-) m

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Jef Raskin dies

by GFisher＠tristonecapital.com

Another pioneer taken before his time: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20050228.gtraskin0228/BN… Gary Fisher This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. Unless otherwise stated, opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the author and are not endorsed by the author's employer.

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New RK07K Disk Packs Available

by ICS＠Core.com

Contact for Disk Packs... I have for sale up to five unused/sealed disk packs comprising DIGITAL (DEC) RK07K DC . Let me know if you can use these. John Stephen Urciolo P.O. Box 61150 Potomac, Maryland 20859 301-983-1998 (9am - 9pm EST)

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More New Toys!

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

... true Sine wave AC ... 9,999 HZ ... 270 volts. ...the cat's ass. A howl, and lots of smoke... << Contacting ASPCA.....

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More Free SUN stuff

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I guess I should have been more clear. These are just cards, not complete systems. Joe All of this stuff came from NASA KSC and is in original SUN boxs. I don't know if it's new or was pulls during an upgrade. I believe the specs are correct but I didn't spend any time checking them. Sun Super Sparc 10 30Mhz MBUS CPU CARD PN 501-1889, 501-2239 SM30. For Sparc 10 only so I've been told. Two Differential SCSI/Ethernet (DSBE/S) Cards. PN 501-1902 Workstations: Sun 4/75, SPARCstation 5, 10, 20 Ultra 1, 1E, 2 Servers: SPARCserver 6x0MP, 1000, PARCcenter 2000 Enterprise 3x00, 4x00, 5x00, 6x00, 10000 Option 1052 Sun PN 501-2270 SM 41 X1161A 40 Mhz CPU CARD for Sparc 10 and SS600MP Model 41.

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IBM AS/400 Model B10

by m.wickens＠rhodium-consulting.com

Hello list, Just a quick question: I've been offered an IBM AS/400 Model B10. Is there anything interesting I can do with it, or interesting software I can run on it? I'll leave 'interesting' open to your own interpretation. Regards, Mark -- Mark Wickens Rhodium Consulting Ltd

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Taking photos of displays...

by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

> > Has anyone got any useful tips for photographing (with a digital > camera)running machines such that whatever's on the screen is > captured with > some kind of decent quality? > Depends if the screen display is static [constant content]. If constant, use a tripod and go slow [>1/60 Sec]. If the display is changing rapidly.... Again on a tripod from a fixed location... 1) 1 Shot with the shutter speed / f-stop balanced for the overall shot (don't worry about the screen) 2) A series of shots at a FAST shutter speed (1/500 or 1/1000) to capture the screen. It takes some playing to get a good composition [for *MY* monitor (21" Viewsonic) 1/1000 and f5.6 from a distance of about 5" on MY Olympus camera, is usually the center point for my bracket. Then with the wonders of digital photography....cut and paste..

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More Free SUN stuff

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

All of this stuff came from NASA KSC and is in original SUN boxs. I don't know if it's new or was pulls during an upgrade. I believe the specs are correct but I didn't spend any time checking them. Sun Super Sparc 10 30Mhz MBUS CPU 501-1889, 501-2239 SM30 For Sparc 10 only so I've been told. Two Differential SCSI/Ethernet (DSBE/S) Cards. PN 501-1902 Workstations: Sun 4/75, SPARCstation 5, 10, 20 Ultra 1, 1E, 2 Servers: SPARCserver 6x0MP, 1000, PARCcenter 2000 Enterprise 3x00, 4x00, 5x00, 6x00, 10000 Option 1052 Sun PN 501-2270 SM 41 X1161A 40 Mhz CPU for Sparc 10 and SS600MP Model 41.

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by dvcorbin＠optonline.net

> > So ya know, since you never mentioned getting it > OUT of storage and shipping > it to CA.... I can head up there with a van & all... ;) > And the Race Is ON.......Illegal Road Rally with the PDP-8 as a prize....Gentlemen (and others) start your engines!

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Looking for a 6U (both J1/J2 populated) 4 to 8-slot VME chassis

by rmeenaks＠olf.com

I need a VME chassis to hook up some of my transputer cards to my Ultra Enterprise 2 workstation (as well as my PC). I current have a PTSBS915 Sbus-to-VME adapter on my SUN and a SBS Bit3 Model 617 PCI-to-VME adapter on my PC. I need a small chassis as I currently don't have much space left. Something similar to the ELMA portables like the following: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3669&item=6742586384& rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW If you have one please respond off-list... Thanks, Ram

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DG equipment in my future

by tomj＠wps.com

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005, Ethan Dicks wrote: > With all the DG stuff happening around here, I thought I'd mention > that I'm trying to work out a rescue of some unknown DG rack from a > machine shop in Central Ohio that was bought new, approx 25-30 years > ago by said machine shop for approx $50K. I have no idea what to > expect except a tape drive in the top of the rack and a "very heavy > disk drive" in the bottom of the rack. > > My contact has no idea what any DG equipment is, so I'll get a > surprise when I show up, I suppose. In the meantime, from the rough > age and cost, would anyone care to speculate what I might be facing > when I see it? I'm hardly a DG expert, and actual experts may have replied off-list, but 1980 plus/minus five years it's probably very approximately like mine. DIsk drive heads need to be locked down before transport or they'll likely self-destruct. If it's one of the typical top-loader disk drives, there's little lock levers on each side of the front rack handles, flip these down and slide the cabinet out. If it won't come out more than 1" there's a latch on the rear, lift it up. Remove the cartridge (dust cover, slide lever on handle to engage, lift >BONK< place in dust cover, fold handle). There "ought to be" a shipping dust cover to fill up the hole... With the drive all the way out, take the 4? 6? screws from the sides and lift off the cover. There's a red bracket bolted with an allen screw on the right of the head motor assembly, take it off and flip it around, that locks the heads. Non-removable disks have a similar system but I don't know it. If it's got small metal toggle switches it's a rare early Nova, by all means take it! If it's a plastic front panel it is newer. If it's from some CNC thing it prpbably has paper tape.

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substitute for TI TIL306/307 Display

by harald.giese＠ihm.fzk.de

Dear folks, I realised there was a discussion going on ... a long time ago ... on the TIL306 and TIXL306 availability. Just wanted to let you know, that I am presently offering 6 TIXL306 on ebay-Germany. So, if you're still interested or if you know somebody else who might be looking for them, here is your chance. I have tested them using standard TTL-voltage levels and a slow clock to see wether the display characters are all ok and everything looked neet. The ebay auction runs until next Saturday. Air-Mail-shipping worldwide is EURO 8.00 ($ 10.50). If you chose the option 'registered delivery' it's a little bit more expensive: EURO 10.05 ($ 13,00) Best wishes from the snow-clad black-forest to wherever you are. Harald Dipl. Physiker Harald Giese Institut fuer Hochleistungsimpuls und Mikrowellentechnik (IHM) Forschungszentrum Karlsruhe GmbH Postfach 3640, 76021 Karlsruhe Telefon 07247 82 6235, Fax 07247 82 4874 e-mail: harald.giese at ihm.fzk.de

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OT: AVR programming using SP12?

by zmerch＠30below.com

Finally git my AVR 8515 programmer built and debugged -- I chose to build the programmer around SP12 -- it's a dos-mode programmer, but says it supports Win2k. Got everything built, plug 'er in, and no matter what, it says it can't find a valid chip. Hrmph. Anyone ever deal with AVR programming and/or the SP12 software? (SP12 is easiest found if you search google for "Programming a Spider's Brain".) I'm wondering if it's due to my dual-processors... Please keep replies off-list, as this is offtopic. Thanks all! Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- SysAdmin, Iceberg Computers _??_ zmerch at 30below.com (?||?) If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead _)(_ disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.

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Data General Nova 4/X -- HELLO COMMA WORLD STOP

by tomj＠wps.com

RDOS prompt is newline then "R". I had to re-create the FORTRAN IV distribution and libraries from random tape dumps. Of course the library file editor pages were missing from the manual I printed out! Had to build the fortran library, aargh. CLG is "compile load go" an all-in-one utility. Amusingly, RDOS isn't umm fully Y2K clean! Accepts year as 2005, but prints it variously as 105 or :5. I guess I'll write "hello world" in macro then assume I'm in business, and go work out the foreground terminal, line printer, etc... Thanks again Bruce for all the help!!!!! tomj R CLG HW HW.LS/L PROGRAM IS RELOCATABLE .TITL .MAIN HELLO, WORLD STOP R LIST HW.- HW.FR 82 D HW.SV 8192 SD HW.LS 9786 D HW.RB 282 D R HW HELLO, WORLD STOP R TYPE HW.FR C THIS PROGRAM DOES NOTHING BUT PROVE THAT IT EXISTS. TYPE "HELLO, WORLD" END R R TYPE HW.LS ; DGC FORTRAN IV REV 05.50NH ; C THIS PROGRAM DOES NOTHING BUT PROVE THAT IT EXISTS. ; ; TYPE "HELLO, WORLD" ; ; END 0001 .MAIN ; DGC FORTRAN IV REV 05.50NH ; C THIS PROGRAM DOES NOTHING BUT PROVE THAT IT EXISTS. ; ; TYPE "HELLO, WORLD" .NREL .TITL .MAIN .ENT .MAIN .NREL 000001 .TXTM 1 .EXTU .EXTN .I .F1: 00000'000000 .F2: 0 000000 .CSIZ 0 00001'000000 FS. .MAIN: 00002'002401 JMP @.+1 00003'000004' L1. L1.: 00004'006002$ JSR @.FWRI 00005'000021' .C1 00006'000000 0 00007'000006 6 .TXT "HELLO, WORLD" 00010'044105 00011'046114 00012'047454 00013'020127 00014'047522 00015'046104 00016'000000 ; 00017'000005 5 ; END 00020'006001$ JSR @.FRET 00021'000012 .C1: 000012 000000 FS.=0 000000 SFS.=0 177611 T.=-167 000011 V.=200+T. 177610 TS.=T.+177777 177611 FTS.=T.+0 000010 VS.=V.+177777 000011 FVS.=V.+0 .END 0002 .MAIN FS. 000000 FTS. 177611 FVS. 000011 L1. 000004' SFS. 000000 TS. 177610 T. 177611 VS. 000010 V. 000011 .C1 000021' .F1 000000' .F2 000000' .FRET 000001$X .FWRI 000002$X .I 077777 X .MAIN 000002' HW.SV LOADED BY RLDR REV 07.10 AT 22:08:51 02/27/:5 R LIST HW.FR 82 D ASM.SV @:ASM.SV FIV.SV 20992 SD LFE.SV @:LFE.SV FMT.LB 6292 D RLDR.OL @:RLDR.OL HW.SV 8192 SD SYS.LB @:SYS.LB FORT0.LB 7794 D FORT1.LB 22552 D HW.LS 9786 D SPEED.ER @:SPEED.ER CLG.SV 3584 SD RLDR.SV @:RLDR.SV FSYS.LB 4036 D N.SV DP0:NSPEED.SV FORT2.LB 18242 D COM.CM 8 FORT3.LB 13618 D FORT.SV 3072 SD HW.RB 282 D LIBS. 37 D BREAK.SV 14336 SD FORT.LB 62134 D R

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more progress, searchable archives

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

The cctech archives have been indexed, check it out. www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/ The archives can be user selectable via thread, subject, author, or downloaded as text. In addition, you can now seach those archives (exact match (any or all) or boolean expression!), sort criteria, etc. At least for the things I was searching on, the results were returned QUITE fast. The index isn't built for the cctalk list yet, but it will be sometime tomorrow. Jay West

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Tektronix plugins available

by ddl-cctech＠danlan.com

Not exactly computer, but clearly classic. :) I have a Type K fast-rise calibrated preamp and a Type 53/54C dual-trace calibrated preamp. As usual, price is $0 plus shipping. Dan Lanciani ddl at danlan.*com

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Age

by rmeenaks＠olf.com

Well, I couldn't resist. I am 33 years old (born 1970) and got my first taste of computers when we bought a TI99 4/A in the early 80's. I spent hours and hours typing in the games in Compute! during those golden ages. We started using a TRS80 during my junior high school and later an Apple / IBMPCin high school. I got so fasinated with computers that I started my Comp Sci degree for both my masters and bachelors. I worked more in the "wall street" type firms designing various trading systems for different markets (FX, international banking, government bond trading, and now Power/Energy market trading). Currently I design trading systems for the Energy Markets (specifically for Power..). I got exposed to transputers during my undergraduate days and have been hooked into it ever since.... Cheers, Ram

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INFO 2000 Vintage S-100 Dual 8" Floppy Disk System

by rmeenaks＠olf.com

On ebay, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4193&item=5170416637& rd=1 Cheers, Ram

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FTP Server/Client for RSX?

by list＠saracom.com

Hello, I received this request for help and was wondering if any one could offer any suggestions. I am not too familar with RSX. Max From: "Dr.M.S.Moni" <moni at iitm.ac.in> Dear Sir, I am using an old pdp/11/73 (LSI 11/73) without network/lan/ card. The OS is RSX11M. Only an 8" floppy drive is avilable. I recently bought a DEQNA card withot any installation instructions. I do not have any file transfer program in my PDP. I tried to use the serial port to communicate to a PC without any sucess. I would like to install the DEQNA and use some FTP or Kermit software to transfer data from the PDP hard disk to a PC. How do I do it and where can I get the necesary software? Is it freely available or on payment? Since I am not an expert in computers I may need detailed instructions. Can you please help me? I shall be much obliged. -Dr.M.S.Moni

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Jef Raskin

by vcf＠siconic.com

Sorry to have to break this news. I just learned this tonight. I have no other details. ;( ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Dear Friends, Jef died this evening, surrounded by friends and family, with some favorite music playing. While I am overcome by a profound sense of sadness and am not looking forward the the days, weeks and years ahead without him, I am also relieved that he did not suffer for a long time and that he is at peace and no longer in pain. There will be a memorial service, time and date to be determined. Much love- Linda -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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[OT]Homebrew PCB fabrication

by jdboyd＠jdboyd.net

On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 08:06:38PM -0500, 9000 VAX wrote: > I think I can say something here because I am drawing the PCB for my > project. A good free CAD software is the gEDA suit, including gschem > (schematic), gsch2pcb(schematic to PCB translator), gerbv (Gerber > viewer), and pcb (PCB). It is time for you guys to install linux in > your computer since you guys are computer geeks anyway! A friend uses PCB heavily for his work, and PCB has been used for some fairly high projects. It looks like good stuff. I've only fiddled with it though. But, I'd like to point out that the stuff will run on Solaris and likely other OSs. No need to install linux just for that. > The cheap double side PCB will cost you $33 each > (http://www.33each.com) for 3 boards, and could be lower than $10 for > 44 square inch boards with quantity of 100. Sounds like a reasonable price. -- Joshua D. Boyd jdboyd at jdboyd.net http://www.jdboyd.net/ http://www.joshuaboyd.org/

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Why are transistors called "Q"?

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

> > "T" was taken (Transformer). That was also a problem when tubes began being= > =20 > used. I think they use X for tubes, don't they? Normally 'V' Certainly in UK manuals -- we call them 'valves', but HP and Tekky also use 'V'. -tony

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Age

by technobug＠comcast.net

Nico de Jong mused: >> It could be interesting to know the age"spread" of thist list >> contributors, and how long we've had the computer virus under >> our skin. >> Age: around 1700 fortnights... First glimpse of the deamon occurred relatively late in life (as measured by this crowd) when working on an Army missile project in '65 which was the first to use PERT. Shoved in cards and got back reams of paper. The following year learned patch-panel programming on a punch card system in the jungle. The real bug was caught in grad school when our department got a PDP-8. Spent one night with the beast and taught myself FOCAL. Shortly after, our group got a Nova 1200 attached to a pulse-height analyzer which one programmed by reading in tapes on a clunk-clunk and punching out results (editor in -> program out, compiler in-> program in-> assembly out, assembler in -> assembly code in-> object out, object in-> run program -- one did not make a mistake). Language was the Algol (with which DG wrote RTOS and RDOS). And then along came a PDP-9 with 3 DEC tapes and 8 kwords of memory and my invention of the operating system - that is until I found out that the box came with one. Wrote my first GUI program in FORTRAN 4 on that box - a background fitting affair that used a light pen on the displayed data (can you say Chain...?). Read in the data from the Nova and printed a graph of the result. Beat feeding cards to the CDC6400 and waiting a day to get back results. Went on to gin up a data collection system on a Modcomp which we took on tour around the US collecting data from a U2 flying a laser. Subsequent work on a disertation used the system to feed data to a DEC10 which front-ended a Cyber on which I churned through many CPU hours (and $) crunching the data. Escaped from academia and started a company in which we developed a automation controller using the National 32016 using a VAX730 as the development tool. That VAX ran 7 years with a down time of less than a week... Brought the beast home when the company folded, but adopted it out to a list member when I realized that I could only run it on winter nights with the doors open. My first personal computer was a LISA. Real multi-tasking with a real GUI - (Oh Steve why did you stray from the true path....). Current project is designing passive filters using a genetic algorithm (gasp!!) - the fitness function is fuzzy :-P My current collection consists of a smattering of Macs of various vintage, a VAX3540 (used to be two 3520s), Sun 1000E, and an Alfa server which isn't up and running yet. Hey, the game is still fun and I'm not about to quit. CRC

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