> > All of the offices in the new college building have
> > those infernal
> > contraptions. Even in the library. NON-ADJUSTABLE
> > at that! Every few
> > minutes, you have to get up and do jumping jacks to
> > get the lights back
> > on. An insidious plot to promote physical fitness.
>Umm didn't like jumping jacks go out with Jack La
>Lanne LOL?? Are there any findings to suggest that
>there are any REAL health benefits associated with the activity??
Hmmm,
Me thinks that we are forgetting the benefits of a 555 timer, and an I/R
LED. Looks like somebody moving *all* of the time, and probably runs
for a year on a single 'D' cell.
(Bet they didn't see that coming)
--
Doug Jackson
Yes... I am sure its dead... I woke up and it had powered itself on
and it was making all sorts of high pitched whining sounds, etc
etc... (normally these machines have trickle power and power up with
the keyboard button). I am just hopeful it did not take out anything
in the machine...
It has the Videovision Telecast system in it, along with a FWB Nubus
SCSI Jackhammer card., Telecast connects to an external 19" rackmount
interface box which has Component, S-Video, Composite, and 4 channels
of XLR audio in and out. Way ahead of its time when it came out...
It was my first non-linear video editing system so I am sentimentally
attached to it... :)
I am located in Western NY area... Shipping $$$ is not an issue if I
can get this guy back on his feet again... thanks
David Barnes
davebarnes AT adelphia DOT net
OpenVMS , Tru64 , Solaris , Linux , OS X , SGI Irix
On Nov 22, 2006, at 1:39 AM, Teo Zenios wrote:
> Are you sure the PS is dead? I know somebody who might have a
> system (minus
> a cdrom) in the texarkana area (where are you?).
>
>
> Out of curiosity what cards are in the system?
>
> TZ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Barnes" <davebarnes at adelphia.net>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 11:03 PM
> Subject: Radius 81/110 power supply needed
>
>
>> Hello all;
>>
>> I have a Radius mac clone , model 81/110 which needs a new power
>> supply.... it gave up the ghost this morning... anyone have one
>> available? or an entire system they want to part with?
>>
>> Yes I need to keep this old machine alive.... nubus video capture
>> cards, etc...
>>
>> thanks in advance...
>>
>>
>> David Barnes
>>
>> davebarnes AT adelphia DOT net
>> OpenVMS , Tru64 , Solaris , Linux , OS X , SGI Irix
>>
>
Hi
I have one that i would like to get working but
have not been able to find much real helpfull
info on it.
These are based on a Computer Pheripherals inc.
tape drive. At least that is whats on the sticker.
It turns on and when you push "logic on" it goes
into self test and just stays there with out any
codes displayed. Display just stays at "00"
voltages look close. DEC manual says system main
board or voltages off. I guess they just had a
stack of spare boards to test with.
Thanks, Jerry
Jerry Wright
JLC inc
g-wright at att.net
Hi,
Is it normal that I'm receiving _every_ message on the Classic Computer
mailing list twice?
I'm subscribed to several mailing lists and only the Classic Computer one
has this...
Kind regards,
Laurens
--
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>Picture is at http://www.ezwind.net/jwest/1134.jpg
>
>11/34A, 128kw, RL01, RL02, DSD440.
>
>I still need to clean the side panels up, but it's assembled and up and
>running RT11 :)
>
>Back to that /44 I guess... just have to get working drives on it. Then
>hopefully back to the /45.
>
>Jay
>
Jay, that's a great looking system! Did you use any of the pieces/parts
you got from me on that system?
You have just inspired me. I think over the holidays I will finish up a
working 11/40 or 11/70 system to put in my office at work. I have
one of each ready, but I just need to clean up the side panels and
touch up the legs, clean up the black cover panels, etc. Those other
guys with all their golfing paraphernalia all over their offices will have
nothing on me once I have a real blinkenlights system sitting in the
corner of my office. :-)
Ashley
Hello all;
I have a Radius mac clone , model 81/110 which needs a new power
supply.... it gave up the ghost this morning... anyone have one
available? or an entire system they want to part with?
Yes I need to keep this old machine alive.... nubus video capture
cards, etc...
thanks in advance...
David Barnes
davebarnes AT adelphia DOT net
OpenVMS , Tru64 , Solaris , Linux , OS X , SGI Irix
seems to have been more prevalent in Europe then here.
There was a review in BYTE though.
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At 05:57 PM 11/17/2006, Ethan Dicks wrote:
>On 11/18/06, aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk <aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>On the
>>front of the box it states "4MB populated",
>>what does that mean?
>
>Sounds like they sold more than one size - perhaps the same base
>board, but with different amounts of RAM chips installed.
Yes, it was common back in the day to buy a board that had
sockets for RAM you could not yet afford.
>>As stated the seller has no idea what this is
>>and I am totally stumped too. What is it?!
>
>Sounds like an application key - a 'dongle'.
Yes, sounds like a dongle for the Amiga's second mouse port.
- John
Well, I wonder what the chances are that an LCD monitor would work with CGA
inputs (dropped down to the proper voltage levels). The question gets back
to the sync issue. But it would not surprise me if some of them might not
actually have been designed to accept NTSC TV scan rates.
> Jay West said:
>
>I went ahead and dragged the unix box out to hook up to the 11/34 so I could
>run vtserver and back up some rl disks I have.
>
>My /34 doesn't have ODT built in of course, so I had to keep entering the
>vtserver bootstrap manually. I got tired of this, since vtserver has an
>option to download the bootstrap if you have ODT. So I hacked up vtserver to
>now also support a -ce option along with -odt. If you specify -ce vtserver
>assumes you have the console emulator running that is provided on the M9312
>board and downloads the bootstrap using the syntax expected by it instead of
>ODT. Timesaver for me. If anyone wants a copy of it, no problem. One slight
>bug - it requires you to hit enter to start the download and I'm not sure
>why, fixing that is a project for another day.
>
>Come to think of it, I should have vtserver send a carefully crafted command
>and look at the response from the host, thus distinguishing automatically
>whether it was ODT or the console emulator it was talking to. That way there
>would be one command option (-bootstrap perhaps) and it would do the right
>thing. However, I'd rather not change existing options.
>
>Anyways... when I run vtserver and select an input of rl(0,0,0) it says that
>it failed to get sts. However, it still asks for the output file, and copies
>the rl image to my pc hard drive. Any idea why the "failed to get sts"
>message happens?
>
>Thanks for any input!
>
>J
>
Jay,
I have a version of VTServer that works with the M9312 console
emulator, and it runs in Windows (well, in a DOS box). I think I
got mine from Fred Van Kempen, who crafted a special version
for me. I have used it on an 11/34 and an 11/40 and have not
had any problems. I've copied RK05, RL01, and RL02 pack
images to and from the PDP-11. Would you like a copy of my
version of VTServer? If so, I can email it to you or I can put it
on my web site (http://www.woffordwitch.com) where it can be
downloaded.
Ashley
IMSAI is a company, really, not a computer. They made about a dozen models
of computers from 1975 to about 1981 (might be off a year or so on the end
date). But when people talk about an "IMSAI" computer, they are almost
always talking about the original IMSAI 8080 computer, the one in the War
Games movie. That model was made from 1975 to about 1978, and it was made
only in one color scheme (blue cover, grey lower front panel below the
switches). It was a very generic S-100 computer.
************
Exactly how old is the IMSAI computer? I
assumed it was from the 80's as I have only
seen it in the film War Games (starring a
young Matthew Broderick). A quick search on
the 'net a few months ago only revealed the
one unit, available in 3 colours (grey, blue
and one other, IIRC).
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
Is there any chance that I may have a copy of it?
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Ashley Carder wrote:
>>
>> Whatever happened to the VTServer v3 project? There were some
>>upcoming features (like >32MB transfers) that I was eagerly awaiting.
>>
>>
>> Doc
>
>I think that my version is about 2 1/2 years old. It has also been
>almost that long since I've heard from Fred, so I have not heard of
>any VTServer news since mid-to-late 2004.
If you and Jay send me a tar file or tell me where they are I'll
make a page and put them up on the web.
I've got a bunch of little pdp-11 linux things I've been meaning to
collect anyway.
I'd be interesting in hearing more about "vtserver v3" also; who was
doing that?
-brad
Yo thanks for that. Looks promising. FINALLY A RAINBOW
FAN TO BOOT! Rock on.
--- cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org
<jba at sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
> On my DEC Rainbow, I exclusively use BinkleyTerm as
it can function as a
> terminal quite well using the appropriate FOSSIL
driver. It supports
> Xmodem and Zmodem at the least, I believe. Anyway,
if you need a T2K
> FOSSIL, try:
>
>
http://www.sentry.org/%7Etrev/opus/173files.html#fossil
>
> I've made a copy of BinkleyTerm v2.40 (the last
version that supports
> FOSSILs on non-standard hardware) available at:
>
>
http://approximatrix.com/downloads/legacy-ms-dos-support-files/communicatio…
>
> I can't seem to find the related documentation
archive right now, but I'm
> sure I have it at home. Hope this helps!
>
> Jeff Armstrong
> jba at sdf.lonestar.org
> SDF Public Access UNIX System -
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Hi all
I have one of these and would like more info on it.
anyone have a Manual or can point me in the right
direction.
- Thanks, Jerry
Jerry Wright
JLC inc
g-wright at att.net
Should people just list the reserved price as the start price? I see
auctions with reserved price often get 0 bid. This is something I don't
understand. In what situation would this thing be useful?
(I saw the vax 4000 100 auction and got this question)
vax, 9000
can you elaborate a little? To my knowledge, Kermit is
a protocol or set of them. I know Im a little dull
occasionally...
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>
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Anyway (thanks for your response btw), the 50-pins connector appears to be a standard SCSI port, at least that is what I discovered after measuring the 'ground' pin layout and comparing it with a standard 50pin - SCSI datasheet... The original Harddrive was a full size 3,5 inch model from a brand named Kyosho (the hardware is dated 1985 so I don't think 2,5 inch was around back then...) It only had a 26pin data strip connector (no power connector) (It's broken btw) which was hooked up to a little controller board (loose hanging in between boards) from SMS OMTI ( a famous name that is often found in accordance with SCSI drives and other datastorage devices (or so I read here and there))
I'm familiar with the 44 pin IDE layout you describe in your message and I regret that probably isn't the setup in this little bugger. After some reading on the SMS OMTI board, i read somewhere that smaller sized 50-pin SCSI drives can indeed draw power from the datastrip connector... whether this could work in my setup is unknown and I will not be able to try since I do not have such a drive...
I've also tried to add a standard ISA 16bit IDE controllercard, but with no luck. The BIOS simply doesn't allow other HD controllers other than it's own... The bios is fairly limited and what little motherboard-jumpers there are, come with no description whatsoever. STUCK... i guess
Unless anyone has any objections, i will put
up everyones suggestions onto my webpage
until I find out for sure what it is.
If anyone wishes to have their suggestions
marked down as "anonymous" then also let me
know.
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
Scelbal (basic for the i8008) in source form is avaliable on some
internet sites. Google for scelbal and sc.asm
Anyone here sucessfully ran this on a emulator or on the real thing ?
Jos Dreesen
--- Barry Watzman <Watzman at neo.rr.com> wrote:
> Rich,
>
> I'm not sure what "Imsai Specific" means in this
> context, but Imsai did sell
> their own 8k Basic that originally came on paper
> tape (I think that there
> may have been a 4K version also). Amazingly, it
> came with a full assembler
> output source code listing. The only thing about
it
> that was "Imsai
> specific" was that it's load and save commands wer
e
> customized for the
> cassette tape port on an IMSAI MIO card.
>
> I have the hard copy listing, and as a consequence
> of your question, I've
> just put it into the scanner and will have a PDF
> file later today. Now if
> someone wants to key it in, I'll send them the PDF
> file. The listing is 113
> pages long. I do not have the paper tape object
> code. The version that I
> have is 1.4 from 5/12/1977.
>
> Tell me about the disk system that you can't get
> working, I have pretty
> extensive knowledge of some of the Imsai disk
> systems.
>
> Barry Watzman
> Watzman at neo.rr.com
>
Exactly how old is the IMSAI computer? I
assumed it was from the 80's as I have only
seen it in the film War Games (starring a
young Matthew Broderick). A quick search on
the 'net a few months ago only revealed the
one unit, available in 3 colours (grey, blue
and one other, IIRC).
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
>I believe there is a Dec Grey standard color. Somebody I have dealt with
>before knows where to get it or how to produce it. Maybe it is the guy
>who is JCMParts on eBay. Seems like he's the one who told me that he
>refurbished Dec terminals, etc, to looks just like factory originals with the
>origianal paint colors. I'll have to dig through my thousands of PDP
>emails tonight and see who gave me that info.
>
>Also, I have sets of Dec H960 side panels that are two different colors.
>Some sets are more of a greyish color and others are more of a creamy
>color.
Ok, here's what I have on the DEC Grey color:
Per Joe Moir (jcmparts on eBay) from an email dated 10/12/2005 :
"We get ours from Raabe 800-966-7580. It is called low gloss gray.
They make it for us special."
Ashley
>From Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> Sun, 19 Nov 2006 19:33:23 -0800 (PST)
>can you elaborate a little? To my knowledge, Kermit is
>a protocol or set of them. I know Im a little dull
>occasionally...
>--- cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org <mnusa2 at hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>>Check the Kermit.
Kermit might be the most ported software.
Check MS-Dos kermit program.
It includes a vt100 compatible terminal emulator (and scripting, file
transfer, protocol etc)
Check older versions too, there might be a "general"
MS-Dos version or even tandy specifics?. Nothing sure though.
Kermit was once freeware but gone commercial now I think.
BR,
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>Ashley wrote...
>> Jay, that's a great looking system! Did you use any of the pieces/parts
>> you got from me on that system?
>Humm I don't recall you sending me any parts for the /34. I know you sent me
>a few cabinet parts and few memory boards to help with my /45 though. I'm
>probably forgetting something and I apologize if so!
I think the stuff I sent you was when you were working on the 11/45.
>
>> ... but I just need to clean up the side panels and
>> touch up the legs, clean up the black cover panels, etc.
>I was going to take a RL02 front panel or dec corp cab filler panel in to a
>hardware store and have them match the paint color exactly, and get a small
>can of the correct mix. Or does an industry standard color coding system
>exist, and these magic numbers are known by a listmember so I can just get
>the color already? I would really like to get an exact match for the "white"
>on the front of the /34 & RL02, the "grey" on the H960 side panel, and the
>"black" on the H960 anti-tip feet. Not just the right color but the right
>type of paint and finish.
>Jay
I believe there is a Dec Grey standard color. Somebody I have dealt with
before knows where to get it or how to produce it. Maybe it is the guy
who is JCMParts on eBay. Seems like he's the one who told me that he
refurbished Dec terminals, etc, to looks just like factory originals with the
origianal paint colors. I'll have to dig through my thousands of PDP
emails tonight and see who gave me that info.
Also, I have sets of Dec H960 side panels that are two different colors.
Some sets are more of a greyish color and others are more of a creamy
color.
Ashley
>> I have a version of VTServer that works with the M9312 console
>> emulator, and it runs in Windows (well, in a DOS box).
>How reliably does it work in a DOS window under XP I wonder? The old
>(current) version of Vtserver also is documented to run in a DOS box under
>windows, but it does not do so well... I saw a document somewhere basically
>acknowledging that it often doesn't run right under windows. It's not a
>flakyness, it's a situation where for those it works for, it works all the
>time for. Anyways, maybe the one Fred gave you fixed that?
It always worked perfectly for me. I think this was a version that he had
enhanced and tested and had been using himself. I think I used it under both
Windows 2000 and XP.
Ashley
>Ashley Carder wrote:
>> I have a version of VTServer that works with the M9312 console
>> emulator, and it runs in Windows (well, in a DOS box). I think I
>> got mine from Fred Van Kempen, who crafted a special version
>> for me. I have used it on an 11/34 and an 11/40 and have not
>> had any problems. I've copied RK05, RL01, and RL02 pack
>> images to and from the PDP-11. Would you like a copy of my
>> version of VTServer? If so, I can email it to you or I can put it
>> on my web site (http://www.woffordwitch.com) where it can be
>> downloaded.
>
> Whatever happened to the VTServer v3 project? There were some
>upcoming features (like >32MB transfers) that I was eagerly awaiting.
>
>
> Doc
I think that my version is about 2 1/2 years old. It has also been
almost that long since I've heard from Fred, so I have not heard of
any VTServer news since mid-to-late 2004.
Ashley
Rich,
I'm not sure what "Imsai Specific" means in this context, but Imsai did sell
their own 8k Basic that originally came on paper tape (I think that there
may have been a 4K version also). Amazingly, it came with a full assembler
output source code listing. The only thing about it that was "Imsai
specific" was that it's load and save commands were customized for the
cassette tape port on an IMSAI MIO card.
I have the hard copy listing, and as a consequence of your question, I've
just put it into the scanner and will have a PDF file later today. Now if
someone wants to key it in, I'll send them the PDF file. The listing is 113
pages long. I do not have the paper tape object code. The version that I
have is 1.4 from 5/12/1977.
Tell me about the disk system that you can't get working, I have pretty
extensive knowledge of some of the Imsai disk systems.
Barry Watzman
Watzman at neo.rr.com
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Tengo tambi?n documentacion impresa que puedo escanear para enviarla.
Saludos
Fernando
Does anyone here know a good source for 74s472 proms for a lower price
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Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
> From: "William Donzelli" <wdonzelli at gmail.com>
>
> > I doubt anyone
> > bids on an iten because someone said it was rare.
>
> People do indeed search for some of these common words if they are new
> to Ebay or a specific field of collecting.
I put up a limited gold edition of Scott Adams Adventures on ebay (Item number:
110057014303) that I *almost* put "RARE" in the title, but I refrained. But I
couldn't help myself in the description. I *really* dislike seeing "rare" in a
title because of all the jokers who haven't a clue what rare might mean. Most of
them merely expose their limited universe for the rest of the world to see.
Daniel,
I just stumbled across your posting of LA160 software - I would love a copy if we can arrange it ?
As per my previous LA160 postings you can contact me directly on ...
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I'll have to look. But, I don't think this board has sockets.
I believe it has 4 banks of soldered in 64k chips.
Thanks!
And if you re-read my message. The RAM board is UNPOPULATED. It has NO
CHIPS.
I was going to scavenge some from somewhere...
Al
> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 14:55:28 -0600
> From: "Julian Wolfe" <fireflyst at earthlink.net>
> Subject: RE: Need Docs for XT RAM Board...
> To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'"
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> What's your XT got in it now? Most non-IBM boards you could populate to 640K
> anyway so there was no point in those cards. If it's got 41256 chips on it,
> pull them from the card and install them in the motherboard banks, and then
> set the switches properly on your XT motherboard and you should be OK.
>
> I have an IBM XT motherboard in my 5155, so I went ahead and did the 640K
> upgrade and put the chips in. It freed up a slot on my machine, so I
> installed an AST RAMpage/2 in it. It's now got 2625KB of usable RAM
> (Windows 3.0 loves it!)
>
> I've done a bunch of work collecting utilities that will correct certain
> issues with old hardware or enhance certain capabilities (like get rid of
> snow and speed up scrolling on CGA and EGA cards, and stabilize/speedup NEC
> v20 chips) Let me know if you need my help.
>
> Julian
Some time ago, someone proposed making pdp8-style flip chips from
surface-mount components. Here's a project that sort of does that:
http://people.freenet.de/dieter.02/mt15.htm
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come here lil crazed bidder...just a little
further...o come on you can do better than that LOL
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boiling water.
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All:
Ok, I admit, I probably should know this by now, but did an
IMSAI-specific version of BASIC exist that can be loaded by paper tape? I
have all of the Altair BASICs in tape format for my 8800b, but I have an
IMSAI too and I've spent so much time fiddling with the floppy system (which
still doesn't work) that I've never really played with it. The IMSAI I have
as a Z80 CPU and 48k but I think I have an original 8080 card for it
somewhere.
Thanks.
Rich
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Lead engineer, Altair32 Emulator
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--- Geoff Reed <geoffr at zipcon.net> wrote:
> FOSSIL = Fido Opus Standardized Serial interface
> Layer
>
Why did they decide to call it that? Did the
abbreviation (or whatever you call it) come
first, or did they call it Fido Opus and then
just expanded on it?
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
I went ahead and dragged the unix box out to hook up to the 11/34 so I could
run vtserver and back up some rl disks I have.
My /34 doesn't have ODT built in of course, so I had to keep entering the
vtserver bootstrap manually. I got tired of this, since vtserver has an
option to download the bootstrap if you have ODT. So I hacked up vtserver to
now also support a -ce option along with -odt. If you specify -ce vtserver
assumes you have the console emulator running that is provided on the M9312
board and downloads the bootstrap using the syntax expected by it instead of
ODT. Timesaver for me. If anyone wants a copy of it, no problem. One slight
bug - it requires you to hit enter to start the download and I'm not sure
why, fixing that is a project for another day.
Come to think of it, I should have vtserver send a carefully crafted command
and look at the response from the host, thus distinguishing automatically
whether it was ODT or the console emulator it was talking to. That way there
would be one command option (-bootstrap perhaps) and it would do the right
thing. However, I'd rather not change existing options.
Anyways... when I run vtserver and select an input of rl(0,0,0) it says that
it failed to get sts. However, it still asks for the output file, and copies
the rl image to my pc hard drive. Any idea why the "failed to get sts"
message happens?
Thanks for any input!
J
I seek a MOS 6545-1 (or Motorola's MC6845) is for a CBM 8296
motherboard. The chip is running hot and there is no screen output. The
6545 is the Cathode Ray Controller for the built-in monitor. Anyone with
information on how I may obtain such chip, please let me know
privately. Will pay $$.
Thanks.
Bill D
Deskmate is even a possibility, as I believe it had a
telecom program built in. but I aint positive.
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--- Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/19/06, aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
> <aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > ... a small oblong object with a
> > > > female 9 pin connector (like a mouse port).
On
> > > > the opposite end is a smal sticker with
> > > > "K50076" on it. On the top of the "thing" is
a
> > > > chequered pattern in silver which starts abo
ut
> > > > 2cm from either end. It is completely sealed
> > > > all the way around...
>
> > I have managed to get some pics onto my
> > website...
> >
> http://www.geocities.com/aliensrcooluk/mysite/glis
ts
> > /amiga_thing.html
> >
> > So, is it a "dongle" then?
>
> That's what it looks like.
>
> The "silver checkerboard" looks to me like the
> remains of a "removal
> voids warranty" sticker. It might have formerly
> been marked as to the
> software vendor or protected product, but now, it
> seems to be
> anonymous.
>
> If you can find the software that it is expecting,
> it's worth
> something. Otherwise, it's just a lump.
>
> -ethan
>
ok, thanks everyone for the help.
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
--- Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > However, the main reason for this post is this:
> > Inside the box is (as the seller stated) "a
> > thing". It's a small oblong object with a
> > female 9 pin connector (like a mouse port). On
> > the opposite end is a smal sticker with
> > "K50076" on it. On the top of the "thing" is a
> > chequered pattern in silver which starts about
> > 2cm from either end. It is completely sealed
> > all the way around, no screws or join marks,
> > with the only exception being the connector
> > bit. I even tried shaking it! No sound at all.
> > As stated the seller has no idea what this is
> > and I am totally stumped too. What is it?!
>
> My first guess is a software protection 'dongle'.
> It's sealed so that it
> can't (easily) be reverese-engineered or copied. I
f
> it's for the Amiga, I
> would guess it plugs into one of the joystick port
s,
> if it's for a PC,
> then into an AT style seiral port.
>
> -tony
>
I have managed to get some pics onto my
website. Please forgive the quality, but they
have been taken using my Dreameye (Sega
Dreamcast digital camera) which uses 8 years
old technology. Still not bad though, eh? :)
http://www.geocities.com/aliensrcooluk/mysite/glists
/amiga_thing.html
So, is it a "dongle" then?
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
Hi, I'm responding to this old thread about the Sanyo LaT-200a because I have here a Running Sanyo SAT-250A /X286. This board is located inside a Sanyo LT17 Laptop (or something that once was) and is running perfectl with an AMD 80286, 640k conv and 384k upper.
If anyone still reads this and might be interested or just want's more information, you can contact me at stijnbagin at hotmail.com
Only trouble is that it has some sort of 50-pins connection harddrive setup (i have been thinking SCSI) directly on the mainboard from which I can make heads nor tails.
I want to hook up a standard 40 pins IDE drive, but I'm not sure how to proceed without a datasheet on the specific connector... The Bios knows all 47 standard HD layouts and a 3,5 inch floppy drive is already in place... I also succeeded to remove the old monochrome LCD display and the huge controllercard and replace it with a smooth standard ISA 16-bit full color Headland Technology's Video 7 board. The only thing remaining is this Harddrive problem... who helps... ?
I must also mention that standard the 50 pins connector was relayed onto a "SMS"<brand> controllercard which converted the 50 pins into a managable 26 pins connector on which i can find even less information... The 3,5 inch harddrive took it's juice and information all from these 26 pins (the brand on this harddrive is also unknown on the net).... I'm hoping this controllercard is unimportant and that the 50 pins are the ones to proceed with...
Greetz
Picture is at http://www.ezwind.net/jwest/1134.jpg
11/34A, 128kw, RL01, RL02, DSD440.
I still need to clean the side panels up, but it's assembled and up and
running RT11 :)
Back to that /44 I guess... just have to get working drives on it. Then
hopefully back to the /45.
Jay
Maybe $300 for a Compaticard isn't so silly. Just search on eBay for
"PS3". Yikes! And even more surprising because in a year, we'll be
flooded with the things.
Reminds me of Beanie Babies.
Cheers,
Chuck
Jay West wrote:
> Didn't someone on the list create a program to load disk images from a pc
> serial port to a pdp's hard disk? I know vtserver, but I thought someone on
> the list wrote something smaller....?
You might be thinking of Will Kranz's TU-58 emulator. I use it all the time while testing my collection of LSI PDP-11s.
http://www.fpns.net/willy/pdp11/tu58-emu.htm
Since it's going through a serial port, it's not particularly fast, but it does work well if you have the time. I've imaged several dozen RL01 (5MB) and RL02 (10MB) disk cartridges, along with a horde of RX01 and RX02 floppies.
J
Didn't someone on the list create a program to load disk images from a pc
serial port to a pdp's hard disk? I know vtserver, but I thought someone on
the list wrote something smaller....?
Jay
Hello all,
Just to put my belated two cents in about VCF 9.0... This was my second time around and this year was even better than the last! I particularly enjoyed the build sessions for the Replica I (bravo Vince!) and the ELF 2000 (a big bravo to you Bob!, thank for swapping my board for yours!). If Sellam is a lurking out there, I sure hope there are more build sessions in future years. Maybe a P112 or Howard Harte's eZ80 perhaps? Just like David's better half, my wife also made the semi-long trip from home (Calgary, Canada) to Mountain View and actually took in some sessions on Sunday. Evan's session on collecting helped her understand my obsession (and yes I'm going to take your words to heart about specializing... spreadsheet software! it made my career possible and nutures it today) She also quite enjoyed Christine's talk about retro-tech (among other things).
Got some great deals on the sales floor and shipped them all home via UPS. I learned that most UPS stores (my sample of one at least!) have never sent anything out of the country, no wonder so many of my eBay sellers are reluctant to ship to Canada! But after only an hour of filling and re-filling forms they went on their way. Arrived in good shape thanks to copious amounts of bubble wrap. I know my bad embay experiences with bad packing jobs would have some eventual benefit.
(Ha! that would be a whole other thread, like the 50 lb North Horizon I got packed in a flimsy box with some balled-up plastic grocery bags!)
Anyway, it was nice to meet some of you in person, and I hope to see you all next year. My best wishes to Sell and his crew for an excellent job!
GF
This was a message from Gary Fisher
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Most helpful
Thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Graham
Sent: 17 November 2006 08:14
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Vax 4000-200 - The Saga continues
On 17/11/06 05:10, "Rod Smallwood"
<RodSmallwood at mail.ediconsulting.co.uk>
wrote:
> This is mostly correct.... But what they don't say is the system gets
> left in a minimum condition.
Since you're only really doing this to reset the password the lack of
other devices is unimportant, all you need access to is
sys$system:sysuaf.dat.
> OK so lets try reversing the commands at the SYSBOOT prompt
>
> SYSBOOT> SET/STARTUP SYS$SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM;2
Set/start sys$system:startup.com. I'm not aware of any file called
sys$systartup_vms.com, the site specific file is
sys$manager:systartup_vms.com.
You can see this yourself by doing SHOW/START when you first get to
SYSBOOT.
--
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collection?
Thanks that's moved me on a bit
Rod
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of arcarlini at iee.org
Sent: 17 November 2006 08:24
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
Subject: RE: Vax 4000-200 - The Saga continues
Rod Smallwood wrote:
> SET/STARTUP OPA0:
> SET WINDOW_SYSTEM 0
> SET WRITESYSPARAMS 0
> CONTINUE
OK so this bit says "start fromm OPA0: (the console), don't do any of
this next time".
> $ SPAWN
> $ @SYS$SYSTEM:STARTUP
After this bit you have enough of OpenVMS running to fiddle with the
system manager's password.
At this stage you would do:
$ SET DEFAULT SYS$SYSTEM:
$ MC AUTHORIZE
UAF> MOD SYSTEM/PASS=somethingmemorable/PWDLIF=0
UAF> EXIT
(It's been years since I've had to break in so I may have mis-typed or
missed a step ... I'm sure someone will chip in if I have)
So now reboot and when the system comes up normally you just login as
SYSTEM with your memorable password.
> This is mostly correct.... But what they don't say is the system gets
> left in a minimum condition.
Did you log out and did it reboot?
> In my case only the drive it booted from ie no 2/3rd drives, no tape
> and no ethernet devices.
> Under the low level prompt (>>>) all devices are shown as present.
> i.e. DIA0 (RF71), DIA1 (RF72), DIA2 (RF72) MUA0 (Tape) and EZA0
> (ethernet)
I'm guessing that
$ MC SYSGEN A A /LOG
would have sorted you out but ...
>
> OK so lets try reversing the commands at the SYSBOOT prompt
>
> SYSBOOT> SET/STARTUP SYS$SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM;2
Should this not be SYS$SYSTEM:STARTUP.COM? It absolutely should not have
a version number in there.
> SYSBOOT> SET WINDOW_SYSTEM 1
>
> SYSBOOT> SET WRITESYSPARAMS 1
>
> SYSBOOT> CONTINUE
>
> startup begins,
>
> Then the following errors:
>
> invalid logical name
> previous value of SYSUAF has been superseded
> error opening SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]BT$DEFINE_SYSTEMS.COM; as input
> file not found
> ON MIN OR UPGRADE START UP CLUE IS NOT RUN
You are using the wrong startup procedure and some pre-requisite has not
run.
> Then a load of OPCOM messages
Definitely set the startup procedure properly.
> If anybody does know where the answer is a link would be nice.
After your first reboot the startup would have been restored to the
correct value. WRITESYSPARAMS of 0 means "don't write anything I've
changed back to a file on exit so none of the changes will be present on
next boot". If all you've changed is as described above, then reset the
startup procedure (WINDOW_SYSTEM is fine as is) and you'll be OK.
Antonio
I've had this thing kicking around for a very long time and could
never figure out a use for it. It's an ALF 811 diskette copier and
copies 96 tpi 5.25" diskettes. It seems not to care a bit if the
floppies are FM or MFM or if they're DD or HD. It will NOT copy 48
tpi media.
It's eBay item 320050592195.
It's kind of cute, but since there is no way to retain an image of a
diskette, just the physical media, it hasn't been terribly useful.
I do note what looks like an empty socket for a MAX232 next to a
header on the PCB, so it's possible that there's an RS-232 interface
that I'm not aware of.
Cheers,
Chuck
Hi,
I received a 4MB PCMCIA ram card off of eBay
today. It's by Amitek and is for the A600 &
A1200. It is known as RAM 6040 and has the
serial number A010100. It states on the back
of the video box (yes, it's in a video box) that
it was distributed in the UK by SDL. On the
front of the box it states "4MB populated",
what does that mean?
However, the main reason for this post is this:
Inside the box is (as the seller stated) "a
thing". It's a small oblong object with a
female 9 pin connector (like a mouse port). On
the opposite end is a smal sticker with
"K50076" on it. On the top of the "thing" is a
chequered pattern in silver which starts about
2cm from either end. It is completely sealed
all the way around, no screws or join marks,
with the only exception being the connector
bit. I even tried shaking it! No sound at all.
As stated the seller has no idea what this is
and I am totally stumped too. What is it?!
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
At 12:10 AM 11/17/2006, Rod Smallwood wrote:
>
>OK .. I login and am still in minimum mode.
>
>I can't see anything in the online docs to cover this.
At the SYSBOOT prompt, try
SHOW STARTUP_P1
it's probably set to "MIN". You need to clear that, so:
SET STARTUP_P1 " "
CONTINUE
That'll get you a normal (non-minimum) startup.
-Rick
On Nov 16, 2006, at 15:54, Dave McGuire wrote:
> "147" sounds VERY familiar. I've not really "gotten into" those
>boards, but I'd sure like to. Could you share your files?
>
> -Dave
>
>--
>Dave McGuire
>Cape Coral, FL
Sure,
Give some more specifications, MVME147 or earlier 141,131,130?.
Should we continue privately, please email m n u s a 2 at hotmail dot
com.
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>Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:02:18 -0800 (PST)
>From: Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: wtd tandy 6000. sanyo mbc-xxx, tektronix tc-2000
>some trades possible. Also want Zenith Z-100 and
>related stuph
I've got an MBC555/2 up here in Toronto if you want it; do you
want it as badly as that person with the Apple/// ?
mike
________________________________
From: Rod Smallwood
Sent: 16 November 2006 08:01
To: 'cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org'
Subject: Vax 4000-200 - The Saga continues
Hi
And thanks again for all the suggestions
Having successfully reset tht SYSTEM password (Here's how)
*
1. Once at the SYSBOOT prompt, request that OpenVMS read the system
startup commands directly from the system console, that the window
system (if any) not be started, and that OpenVMS not record these
particular parameter changes for subsequent system reboots:
1.
SET/STARTUP OPA0:
SET WINDOW_SYSTEM 0
SET WRITESYSPARAMS 0
CONTINUE
*
1. At the $ prompt, the system will now be accepting startup
commands directly from the console. Type the following two DCL commands:
1.
$ SPAWN
$ @SYS$SYSTEM:STARTUP
1. You should now see the dollar ($) prompt of DCL.
The result of these two commands will be the normal system
startup, but you will be left logged in on the console, running under a
fully privileged username. Without the use of the SPAWN command, you
would be logged out when the startup completes.
Perform the task(s) required, such as resetting the password on
the SYSTEM username as described in Section 5.6.1
<http://h71000.www7.hp.com/faq/vmsfaq_007.html#mgmt5a> or registering
one or more license product authorization keys (PAKs) as described in
Section 5.6.2 <http://h71000.www7.hp.com/faq/vmsfaq_007.html#mgmt5b> .
2. Once you log out of this session, the system will complete the
startup and can be used normally. You can choose to reboot the system,
but that is not necessary.
This is mostly correct.... But what they don't say is the system gets
left in a minimum condition.
In my case only the drive it booted from ie no 2/3rd drives, no tape and
no ethernet devices.
Under the low level prompt (>>>) all devices are shown as present. i.e.
DIA0 (RF71), DIA1 (RF72), DIA2 (RF72) MUA0 (Tape) and EZA0 (ethernet)
OK so lets try reversing the commands at the SYSBOOT prompt
SYSBOOT> SET/STARTUP SYS$SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM;2
SYSBOOT> SET WINDOW_SYSTEM 1
SYSBOOT> SET WRITESYSPARAMS 1
SYSBOOT> CONTINUE
startup begins,
Then the following errors:
invalid logical name
previous value of SYSUAF has been superseded
error opening SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]BT$DEFINE_SYSTEMS.COM; as input
file not found
ON MIN OR UPGRADE START UP CLUE IS NOT RUN
Then a load of OPCOM messages
Then....
minimum system startup, security server not started
Then some system stats
and finally a Username: login
OK .. I login and am still in minimum mode.
I can't see anything in the online docs to cover this.
If anybody does know where the answer is a link would be nice.
Rod
I have had a go at the VMS online manual but can't see anything related
to this.
If anybody does know of a reference could that send me a link
Yesterday evening I had a look at my sick 11/44.
The notes I had kept said that the VT100 displays
"?CP didn't start". I already knew that this is the
typical bus hang condition, so I opened the BA11 box.
I was surprised to see the FP11 board (I did not know
I had that one), but I also saw that the last slot of
the CPU backplane has a G727 ... I remember that in
that quad slot had been the TU80 controller, sure an
NPR device. So, I pulled the G727 and inserted a G7273,
and pushed all other boards firmly into place.
A few boards actually moved a little (say, 1 mm).
Powering up ...
the 11/44 shows the ">>>" prompt and is responsive,
but I was too lazy to unlock the heads of the RA81
and tension the motor/spindle belt. The RA81 is the
boot device for the 11/44. The system has an RL02 so I
tried >>>B DL0: but then the 11/44 shows on the VT100
"no such PROM" (IIRC, or something close like this).
OK, I was glad not to see "?CP didn't start" anymore,
and I turned off the machine.
Half an hour later I had thought of entering the
boot code for the RL02, so I turned the 11/44 back on.
However, ... besides the DC ON light, the RUN light
stays ON too. I am sure the RUN light should go OFF.
It does not matter if the switch is in the HALT or
CONT position at power up.
The VT100 only displays:
(Console V3.40C)
(Program)
and nothing more, no ">>>" prompt anymore!
Also, the FAULT lamp on the RL02 drive stays ON.
In the normal behaviour, the FAULT lamp is OFF, and if
you toggle the switch to the "BOOT" position, the FAULT
lamp will flash ON briefly.
The TK50 (also connected to the 11/44) flashes the red
push button lamp and after a few seconds the red lamp
goes OFF and the green LED goes ON.
Now, in its faulty state the TK50 still behaves the same
when I push the switch to the BOOT position, but the RL02
drive keeps the FAULT light ON.
As the FAULT lamp stays ON of the RL02, I am *guessing*
that the 11/44 does not issue a "reset", keeping the CPU
hung, and the RL11 controller ...?
Where do I start?
What are the obvious things in this machine?
Don't read this line Tony. I have 2 spare set 11/44 CPUs.
thanks for any hints!
- Henk, PA8PDP.
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Hi all,
I must be missing something, but I have not found a good way to
preserve a bunch of vax/vms files. I've looked at VMSZip, Gzip, VMSTar,
etc, and I must be missing something.
Here is what I am trying to do:
Before my vax finally dies, I want to take the hundred or so TK50s I
have and restore them to the hard drive and then move them to PC-land
for long term storage. This is halfway done with the tapes that are
easily readable. I now have a bunch of directories, one for each tape,
with files in them on the VAX. So the tree is only two levels deep on
the vax. The files are pretty mixed: backup files, savesets,
distributions, text files, etc. Right now the files amount to about 2Gb.
Now, the environment is: VAX 3100-30 with SCSI external. THis is where
I hooked up the TK70 (TZ30?) to read the tapes. I have network access
and can get to it via FTP and TELNET from elsewhere, namely my PC. I
also have a bunch of different SCSI tape drives, 8mm, 4mm, 9 track, etc.
So, I could transfer all the files if I could containerize (zip) them.
Do I try to Zip them somehow (what program) and FTP them, or do I just
write them to duplicate disks/tapes and throw them on a shelf, hoping I
have a machine to read them in the future?
I'm usually pretty good with this stuff, having been around the VMS
world for a few decades, but I just have this memory block, or the
blinders are on.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Joe Heck
some trades possible. Also want Zenith Z-100 and
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--- jim stephens <jwstephens at msm.umr.edu> wrote:
>
> I personally would spend it on a house on the bay
> out here in LA
> or such, and spend the extra $$ to get a PS-III,
> though I have no
> plans to get one now.
>
> The lines outside Fry's have been around since
> Tuesday according to
> some guys I talked to there today, I guess they go
> on sale tomorrow.
>
> I'd just like one of the Cell processors, forget t
he
> game, to play with,
> and a linux distro to run on it.
>
>> snip <<
>
> jim
>
LOL. Bwahahahahaha!
You'd be *very* lucky to get one.
Only 84,000 units were sold in Japan on
Saturday (100,000 were originally promised)
and now recent comments from industry
analysts suggest that only 100,000 to 150,000
units will be available at launch (originally
Sony promised 400,000).
Sony's original target was to ship 2 million
by the end of December and 6 million by the
end of March. They are looking like they will
miss both targets at present.
As for The Cell, I believe only 7 of the 8 cores
will be fully functional on most machines,
unless Sony fixed the reliability issue.
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
Dave (and all),
I agree with you 100%
I just won an LNW-80 Computer on eBay. I've been trying to win one for
YEARS!!!
I probably paid more than I could afford for it. But, I'd had enough at
losing auctions.
It's not the Model II I wanted, but a Model I (as far as I can tell).
I used to work for "Stoney Clove Computer Center" in NYC that was a
dealer for LNW computers, and also for Percom.
I bought my Percom Doubler for my Model I from them in 1981 and then,
went to work for them in 1982.
I also worked for Lawrence S, Epstein Associates that also sold LNW-80
Computers and Corvus Hard Drives and Networks. I was never smart enough
to put one on Layaway either time.
An LNW-80 Model II has been my "Holy Grail" for at least 20 years. The
Model I is the next best thing.
The only other pieces of computer equipment I'd like to have (that I
consider "grails") are:
- A BeBox (Which will now be my next target of opportunity)
- A Trash Compactor Board (A TRS-80 Model III Clone that fits in a Model
I case)
- A Hydra Card (A Mac Plus on an ISA card that works in a PC)
- A 20th Century Macintosh
- A G4 Cube
- A Color NeXT Station (which I know I can buy from several vendors or
on eBay. I stupidly passed one up for $50.00 at a computer show).
Nobody knows about the Trash Compactor, and I can't find all the docs I
used to have about it. It might be a figment of my imagination...
But, when that LNW-80 gets here... I'll probably cry like a baby too...
Here's hoping that my Model I disks are still good and will boot the
thing. I found my masters of Multi-DOS and DoubleDOS, and somewhere I
have masters for DOSPlus, NewDOS/80 and TRS-DOS. I bought 100 360k
disks, so the first thing is to make backup copies and label them nice.
I'm going to try putting a 720k 3.5" drive on it (which ought to work
well) and make bootable 3.5" disks just so I have more sturdy backups.
Since it comes with an LNDoubler, I'm hoping it's the 8"/5.25" kind that
might let me put 1.2mb/1.44mb Drives on it...
My friend Tom and I are going to spend an afternoon sometime in the
future repairing my Model I TRS-80 and get it working again. It's
festooned with upgrades from Dennis Bathory Kitz's book (Reset Switch,
Lowercase, Composite Video out, Alpha Joystick compatible port, Turbo
Mod with Tri-Color LED, built in speaker and amplifier, External KB
connector).
In fact, those mods let me identify it twice after it had been stolen.
Al
Phila, PA
Dave McGuire wrote:
Every collector or enthusiast has their own reasons for their interest
in this hobby, and those reasons usually define what specific machines
they're interested in.
Myself, I will pay top dollar (if I'm able) in order to get my hands
on a machine that I lusted after during my childhood. For example, in
my teens, I desperately wanted a Ferguson BigBoard but couldn't afford
one. I saw those ads every month in BYTE and just drooled and drooled.
Now, I'd just about kill to get one, even though they're really not all
THAT rare...I just haven't managed to find one that's available yet.
Earlier than that, I drooled over the TRS-80 Model I in the Radio
Shack catalogs, back when that model was current. A kind Radio Shack
employee once took me aside and showed me around the system when they
were first introduced. I wanted one so badly I could practically taste
it. I begged and pleaded, but my family did not have a lot of money,
and I was never able to get one. I finally got one on eBay about a year
ago...fortunately I didn't have to pay a lot of money for it, but I tell
you, I nearly cried when I opened that box. I think I only paid about
$30 for it...but frankly I'd have paid a LOT more than that if I'd had
to, probably up to $1K or maybe even more, because I had deeply personal
reasons for wanting it.
Now of course, this is classiccmp, where ANY statement of ANY monetary
value of more than a few dollars for ANY piece of old computer hardware
is usually met with unbelievable amounts of vitriol and ridicule, that
may draw some laughter or even doubts of my sanity...but that's the
honest truth. We all have our reasons.
-Dave
-- Dave McGuire Cape Coral, FL
when their parts are strewn about 3 or more states.
Cpu (got that), p/s, mouse (I think my 600 came with a
mouse), monitor cable (never could figure that one
out), and monitor (nice one too).
And turning it on would be efficacious in producing
what result Golan? I'm doubtful the rom code wouldn't
scroll across my screen if I did. You didn't have to
tell me how to do it, no obligation there. But you
didn't have to hurt me either.
I did have it on once come to think, but I plugged it
into a mini tv-vcr. That cable it came with just
wasn't working out for me. Looked ok.
There wasn't alot of 'Miga talk lately. I figured I
provoke some. I think I'll think twice next time.
Golan, your last name sounds almost as German as the
people I come from (in part). I don't give out such
personal information on the web though. It helps to be
paranoid in this godless day and age yer know. Nice to
keep a few secrets besides.
And no, said last name does not begin with an "H".
Good grief.
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A friend gave me a Magitronic XT RAM Card.
It's an 8-bit ISA Full length card with 8 sets of 9 sockets. It's
totally unpopulated.
It has 8 position DIP Switch. Currently all but #5 are off.
It has two Magitronic Stickers. One has the number 606 and the other 0687
I'm assuming this board populates with 4116 chips for a total of 128k or
4164 chips for a total of 512k
I have an original XT board with 256k on it and I want to take it up to
640k total.
I'm hoping I can put 4 sets of 4116 and 4 sets of 4164 on here for 384k.
So, any help with a copy of the manual or link to the same would be much
appreciated.
I have an Oak 8 Bit VGA card in the XT that not only handles VGA but
also does EGA/CGA/MGA/MDA.
I have a couple of these cards, and they are like gold to me.
I'm looking out for a high density disk controller for an XT so I can
put one 1.44mb drive on it for data transfer.
But, it will be fun to run an XT again...
Al
Phila, PA
P.S.: Still looking for an LNW-80 Model I or Model II CPU, and a power
supply for a Laser 512 XT (like the Laser 128 Apple II Clone).
> Do you have any hardware documentation for them? Specifically I'm
>interested in I/O addresses and such, as I'd love to throw some code in
>EPROMs and do some low-level hacking with them.
If You have separate memory boards they are probably pre-mvme147.
There I have mvme130/131 and mvme141 schemantics + docs.
Some pdf and some tif - files.
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What is that pinout for the Acoustic Coupler port for
the TI 707? There are 6-pins (2 rows of 3). What is
TX, RX, GND? Is is Async, or is ther clock? Any
control leads?
Any information is appreciated.
Joe Klapatch
Galloway, NJ
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I just posted two new items on eBay and thought I'd give anyone who might
be interested a heads up.
The first is a TRS-80 model 100/102/200/600 printer cable. I tried to
duplicate the original 26-1409 cable as best I could. Its listed as item #
120053986869
The second is a MMJ adapter kit that I mentioned not long ago on
classiccmp. I finally had time to make a few more and listed one to see
how it would do. Its listed as item # 120053989909
I still can't believe what vendors are getting for genuine H8571-J (and
compatible/generic!) adapters...
I still have TRS-80 cassette and serial din cables listed, as well as my
usual assortment of telecommunications tools, for those who might also be
interested in those.
-Toth
The RD53 drive in my 11/73 has finally gone to silicon heaven, after a
brief resurrection. Given the reputation these drives seem to have, I'm
not too surprised. So a few nights ago I dug through my stacks of
ancient hard drives and found three possible candidates for replacement:
- A Microscribe 6085, which seems to have the same drive geometry as an RD53
- Two Seagate ST-251s, which seem to be identical to an RD32
All of these are in "unknown" condition (I haven't used them in years),
but spin up without making any evil noises and are recognized by the
RQDX3 controller. To the best of my recollection, all three were
formerly used in PCs.
I've used zrqch0 (booted via vtserver) to format all three of these
disks. In all three cases the formatting appears to be successful --
the drives format for a few minutes, then go through three verification
stages for another 20-30 minutes. During this time I can hear the heads
being stepped, and the drive access light blinks. At the end of the
format no errors are reported.
I'll note that in order to do the format on these drives, I had to go
through the process manually (as opposed to the "AUTOFORMAT" mode of
zrqch0) -- for the Microscribe this was because zrqch0 didn't recognize
the drive (showed up as "unknown"), for the ST-251s this was because the
fault tables could not be read off the drives. I suspect this may have
something to do with the issue I'm seeing, but of course this is pure
speculation. I've tried various permutations of the formatting options,
but I've had no joy there.
After formatting the drives, no other utilities seem to be able to make
use any of the drives -- running the disk exerciser (zrqah0) fails after
the first test step (and after a very small amount of disk activity)
with an error similar to the below (this varies slightly based on the
test being run):
FATAL I/O ERROR
* DISK 0 WENT OFFLINE
* SUB_CODE: NO VOLUME MOUNTED OR DRIVE DISABLED BY SWITCH
* COMMAND: READ_COMPARE
Interestingly, 2.11BSD's 'disklabel' is able to partition and write the
label to the disk. Mkfs, however, fails with:
ra(0,0,0) error op=A2 sts=23
write error 3
Exit called
I've tried this with two different RQDX3 controllers with the same
results (and these controllers worked fine with my RD53 until it
failed). Is there a magic step I'm missing? Is what I'm attempting to
do (use non-DEC drives) not possible? Any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks for any help here...
Josh
My 'excuse' was that I just got back from VCF 9, via western-Canada. I
was a speaker at VCF 9, thoroughly enjoyed myself. Of particular note
was meeting The Woz on the 30th anniverary of Apple, Lee Felsentein of
SOL 20 fame, and a visit to the Digibarn in Snata Cruz, a brilliant
creation of Bruce Damer, CEO of DigitalSpace. One amazing artifact was
the Digi-comp 1 a creation out of the 60s. I have one and it made my
heart go a flutter...All-in-all a great faire Sellam and others put
on. Looking forward to VCF 10 and seeing Evan in May for VCF east.
Happy computing!
Murray--
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Well- my terminal (Altos III) was a bit too unobtrusive, and wound up being left on for a couple of weeks
straight. Now, it has a somewhat anemic beep and the screen comes up with garbage.
Looks like possibly a RAM issue. Anyone have experience or ideas?
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Dave McGuire wrote:
Myself, I will pay top dollar (if I'm able) in order to get my hands
on a machine that I lusted after during my childhood. For example, in
my teens, I desperately wanted a Ferguson BigBoard but couldn't afford
one. I saw those ads every month in BYTE and just drooled and drooled.
Now, I'd just about kill to get one, even though they're really not all
THAT rare...I just haven't managed to find one that's available yet.
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There has long been a theory in book collecting that the best prices and
most demand for collectibles is for exactly this reason. Young people grow
up, raise a family and mature. Late in life they long for the toys of their
youth. They now have the time and money to enjoy those toys. The magic age
seems to be 30-45 years from when the item was desired first. In other
words, people aged 50-70. Then the market prices slip back to normally, as
that generation passes on.
The best example I know of this street rods. Go to any custom car show and
you will find most of the owners are grey haired and usually affluent.
Reliving the joys of their teen years.
You can apply the theory to Star Wars figures, books, cars or computers.
I invested heavily in certain types of magazines, especally pulps, based on
this idea. So far it has paid off handsomely. But in the last ten years
the prices have completely tanked. Most of the readers of that era are
gone now.
And please, I'm not disparaging this yen for the toys of one's youth - I'm
probably more guilty than most what with buying Erector and Meccanno sets,
science fiction fanzines, and old CDC computers.
Billy
I have a 386/40 and a 486 EISA system that sometimes boot in mono mode instead of color. Any idea why that would be? The CMOS seems to keep its settings and the time is correct.
I missed it too. :-(
However, the Apple 30th anniversary event that occurred that is documented
at the digibarn web site!
http://www.digibarn.com/history/06-11-4-VCF9-Apple30/index.html
Audio of the event is available with introductory slide show and lots of
photos are available there. Streaming Video coming soon. DVD for sale now.
Very cool.
John
Hi everyone,
I have followed this list for some time now.
I collect, restore and repair Motorola MVME computers.
I'm just wondering can I find some help or (MVME)friends in here.
For example, does anyone have/know about a MVME360 SMD disk controller.
Motorola docs and OS's (System V/68) support it.
Never seen one though.
I have controllers and disks for MFM, ESDI and SCSI
and now I'm looking for SMD controller and disks.
BR,
Matti.
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It's small, like a shoebox.
Tim donated one as a prize at both VCF East 3.0 and VCF 9.0 this year. He's based here in central New Jersey and online at www.mindsontoys.com.
--- Steven Canning <cannings at earthlink.net> wrote:
> The Digi-Comp1 3 bit "mechanical" computer is
> being re-issued in a $49
> (USD) kit. This has to be one of the coolest
> computer learning tools ever.
> Check out the link:
>
> http://www.retrothing.com/2006/02/build_your_own_.
html
>
> You could always build your own ... But for $49 it
> beats the hell out of the
> 40 year old kits on E-pay that sell for more !!
>
> Best regards, Steven
>
Looks very cool and I am tempted to get one,
but just how big is the DC1 V2.0 when assembled?
Regards,
Andrew B
aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 02:08:46 -0500, 9000 VAX" <vax9000 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Might as well ask why ALL D shell connectors are referred to as
> size B.
All D shell connectors are not size B, only those with 25 pins - the
proper designation being DB-25. The 15 pin versions are DA-15 and
DE-15 (the latter being the three row version). The 37 and 50 pin
versions are DC-37 and DD-50 respectively.
Size-wise, besides the "standard" D-subminiature connectors are HD,
micro, and nano variants.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-subminiature> has an excellent
rundown on the various flavors (flavours) and variants of these
connectors.
CRC
Ive got a bunch of 8bit floppy controllers and some memory expansion cards,
as well as some 16bit full length memory expansion cards too. If interested,
LMK.
Hello,
on the web I found the interesting web page
of www.oddmix.com. Here interesting vintage
stuff can be found (most is off topic for
this group). Among these was the Cosmac
CDP 18S021 Microterminal - new and unused.
So I bought one of these and from Karl Nagy,
who manages oddmix and is a very kind and
interesting person, I got the Manual for
the Micro Terminal (MPM224) as well. He sold
me a copy of the desired Manual for the
Cosmac 1802 Evaluation Kit Rev 2 as well,
too.
So the problem is solved - thanks a lot,
happy computing,
Erik.
> When one is dealing with 70's-era personal computers, does rarity
> play any part in the valuation?
>
> Cheers,
> Chuck
I haven't seen a lot of correlation between rarity and valuation. A quick
example is the Altair vs the Lobo Drives Max-80. The numbers I've heard for the
Altair are in the range of 25,000 produced while there were only about 5000
Max-80s produced.
There seems to be a lot more correlation between publicity and valuation.
Ebay gives a good idea of what the market is like *for those people who deal on
ebay*. Judging the value only by looking at the final price can be greatly
misleading ... there are a few people who bid the thing to death rather than
snipe or bid what they are willing to pay on the *FIRST* bid. When looking at
pricing, I almost always go to the bidders list to see what is actually going
on.
> Speaking of builds and terminals, anyone interested in creating a
> Beehive TTL terminal replica? ;-)
Now that the docs are on line, I would think a KENBAK-1 would be more
interesting, and that only needs two MOS shift registers, as opposed to most
terminals which had frame and line buffer shift registers.
Hello,
Will you please remove me from the list for the time being. I am having trouble keeping up with all the mail! The email to remove is
pds3 at ix.netcom.com
Thank you,
Shannon Hoskins.
there is an FPP-12 on ebay that expires tomorrow (Monday at 9am) It
looks to be in excellent
condition with documentaition.
Hope someone can get this beast for their collection. Anyone interested
in PDP8's or lots of
flip chips should bring this up and take a look anyway, there are 12
ranks of card edge connectors
and a great wire wrap backplane photo, for those that just like the photos.
Located at a gold scrapper in Atlanta, GA
Jim
290047654838
Oops, I meant Bruce Damer of the DigiBarn, not Bruce Draper. Also, on
Sunday, the ?room? was the workshop room just off the front lobby of the
museum. This is where all of the workshops were held. I will have my
pictures up on my website soon. As far as our flight back, we hung out at
the San Jose airport from about 6:00pm until 9:30pm, taking off at
10:00pm. We landed in Newark, NJ at about 6:00am EST (five hour flight).
Had a two and a half hour lay-over, then two hours to Jacksonville, FL. We
were pretty burned-out by then. Best everyone, David
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