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HP 9000s, Canon Cat, felines, etc. was Re: rogues galleries

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> Um, is this the droid you're looking for? :-) > http://jef.raskincenter.org/published/cat_ref.html That is the user's manual. He wanted the programming information. CHM received a donation of some forth listings from another source about six months ago for the CAT at various stages of development if you aren't able to get the info you need from Stanford.

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removing green gook Re: Various problems

by zmerch-cctalk＠30below.com

Rumor has it that Chris M may have mentioned these words: >--- Jay West <jwest at classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > Chris M. wrote... > > >> and what do you all use to eliminate the chunky > > green > > >> gunk that seems to assumulate primarily on card > > edge > > >> contacts? > > > > Caig ProGold. Best thing out there. > > > > Jay > > Yo thanks. Where can I find the stu-f-f (see, I was >careful there LOL LOL). Google is your friend... http://www.caig.com/ For potentiometers & whatnot, this stuff works wonders, too: http://store.caig.com/s.nl/sc.2/category.183/.f I bought an old 0-40V 0-1.5A variable bench power supply at a garage sale for $5.00 USD; it worked fine but the pots were *very scratchy* - couple shots of that stuff in each one and a couple full wipes, and the rascal's dead on again. Smooth as silk. :-) > It hurt too They have creams for that now. ;-) Prost, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger | "Bugs of a feather flock together." sysadmin, Iceberg Computers | Russell Nelson zmerch at 30below.com |

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HP 9000s, Canon Cat, felines, etc. was Re: rogues galleries

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> Use of cameras is restricted. No flash is allowed and they even don't > allow a tripod. What about a hand scanner? Can you even buy those any more?

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74S-series grab bag on ePay

by doc＠mdrconsult.com

http://shorterlink.org/1335 Seems somebody is always looking for them here. MC Howard is local to me, and I've mentioned them here before. If you look on their website they have a toll-free number - http://www.mchoward.com - and they have an amazing assortment of arcane/obsolete electronic parts. Don't pay any attention to the prices listed online. They may or may not be current. Doc

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rogues galleries

by tim.walls＠snowgoons.com

Tony Duell wrote: > Thanks for the offer. TO be honest, a copule of HPCC memebers have made > similar offers in the past (certainly scanning prints). I just need to > get round to taking some stuff... > >> >> (If you didn't want to entrust negs with me - and I wouldn't blame you - >> I'd be happy to give you a roll or two of TMax B&W film & you can post >> me the exposed rolls back - I can process & scan them myself at home.) > > As you well know, the cost of the film is minimal compared to the cost > of the time taking the pictures... Believe me, I know all too well - time is probably the most valuable commodity we don't have enough of, closely followed by space... I have a PCB layout for an electronics project which I had prepared in January I think that I *still* haven't done anything with because I just haven't had any time. (Partly my own seasonal prioritising; Summer is for getting out there with camera in hand to see as much of the world as possible, Winter is for poring over dead bits of computer - at least that's what I'm trying to convince myself :-).) The offer of film was partly because it's so damn hard to get hold of professional film these days. It's a lot easier in London than out here in the provinces I think, but while it's certainly not yet unobtainium going shopping for a roll of, say, TMax 400 round here is an exercise in hope over expectation. My wife has had to come to terms with the house not only being full of computer 'junk', but the fridge also being full of rolls of film because I buy in bulk :-). Anyway, I fully understand; if you do ever find the time to take those shots, the offer is always open. >> Canon A1, an absolutely beautiful bit of kit IMHO, and I'm hoping a > > Rather too much electronics for my taste... I had a hunch you'd say that ;-). >> 1950s Russian Zorki rangefinder is going to land in my lap before > > Which one? If you need any hints on repairing it, e-mail me. I've worked > on a number of FEDs and Zorkis, I also have 'All you need to know about > the design and repair of Russian cameras'.... Thanks very much for the offer - I might just take you up on that! It's a Zorki 1b with the 'standard' Industar 50mm lens; not particularly rare, but as my first foray into rangefinders (and bottom-loaders for that matter) I didn't want something I'd be too scared to use! Kind regards, Tim -- Tim Walls at home in Leeds EMail & MSN: tim.walls at snowgoons.com

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wtd - dec rainbow color monitor and card

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

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FA: HP9000 systems (Ft. Meade, MD)

by legalize＠xmission.com

Hey, speaking of HP9000 systems... <http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=1063121&convertTo=USD> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

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FS: HP 110

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

Reply to Bob. >Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 19:09:47 -0500 >From: Bob Duha <rbduha at tds.net> >Subject: HP 110 >To: rigdonj at cfl.rr.com >User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.4.030702.0 >X-MID: 1654898886 >Original-recipient: rfc822;rigdonj at cfl.rr.com > >Hi I have an Hewlett Packard HP 110 with the manuals and case. No printer >unfortunately. It does have a couple of extra cords. It will power up with >the adaptor but the battery is probably long gone. I can send pictures if >you like. Do you know of anyone that would be interested in purchasing this? >I have no idea what it is worth but I bought it brand new in 1984 and have >had it in my possession since. It has Lotus 123 on it. > >Robert B. Duha >380 Brookside Dr. >Ann Arbor, MI 48105 >C - 734-730-2527 >H- 734-994-5692 > Joe

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Suggestions on through-hole prototyping board

by cclist＠sydex.com

Lately, all I've seen in 0.100" prototyping board is really inferior phenolic material in small sizes from China with nearly unusable pad patterns. Adhesion of the foil to the board substrate itself is chancy at best. I used to be able to get fairly good-sized (6"x10") pieces of FR4 protoboard with useful patterns (e.g. laid out for 0.300" DIP, with power traces down the middle and pads extending for 2 holes from each DIP pin) with all holes being plated-through. Short of taking old PC ISA or S-100 prototyping boards and cutting them up, does anyone know of some good sources for proto boards? Thanks, Chuck

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Allen Bradley and Z80 parts

by useddec＠gmail.com

While cleaning I came across a bunch of AB parts some of which have socketed Z80 cpu's, ctc, sio's, ram and rom. If you have any interest please contact me off list. Paul

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rogues galleries

by tim.walls＠snowgoons.com

Hi all, been years since I contributed to the list (I'm your archetypal lurker,) but that's normally 'cos I have nothing useful to contribute, so yay for a chance :-) Tony Duell wrote: >> When do we get to look at some pictures of your >> stash? You know I'm sure a local newspaper or magazine > > That could be a problem. Yes, I have a cmaera. Darn it, I have many > cameras. But all are film-based (I will _consider_ a digital camera when > the quality of output exceeds that from my film cameras, which include > several 5*4" large format models). I also don't have a scanner, or > anything to link it to (there don't make scanners that link to PERQs :-)) For what it's worth Tony, if any of your cameras are 35mm, I have a dedicated film/slide scanner I'd be more than happy to run some negs (or positives!) through if you did want to get some digital images to share with the list. I'm based in Leeds but travel to London pretty much every week for what it's worth. (If you didn't want to entrust negs with me - and I wouldn't blame you - I'd be happy to give you a roll or two of TMax B&W film & you can post me the exposed rolls back - I can process & scan them myself at home.) (Oh, the offer of scanning negs/slides is of course open to anyone if you need it, within reason!) As an aside, maybe a love of old cameras and classic computers is a natural fit :-). Although I do shoot digital, my favourite camera is my Canon A1, an absolutely beautiful bit of kit IMHO, and I'm hoping a 1950s Russian Zorki rangefinder is going to land in my lap before Christmas! Shameless self publicity - if anyone's curious, some of my photography is at http://www.flickr.com/photos/snowgoons/ ;-). (No classic computers there though!) Cheers, Tim -- Tim Walls at home in Leeds EMail & MSN: tim.walls at snowgoons.com

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Multibus boxes

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

are these that hard to come by: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=011&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:I… pretty cheap. I'm in the get rid of stuff mode though, couldn't see bidding on it (unfortunately). I'd be interested if anyone has one though, or something similar (preferably Intel, but I'd consider others). I was supposed to get my hands on a Compupro box, but the guy is dragging his heals... ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com

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RL01 directory listings

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Since I got the 11/34 up with one rl01 and one rl02 drive, I was able to read a stack of RL01 cartridges that came with the 11/34 as well as a few others that I got from other sources. In case there is something wonderfully interesting on them that anyone has been looking for, I posted a directory listing of all the RL01 packs at the following URL: http://www.ezwind.net/jwest/RL01DISKS.txt If anyone wants any of the files, just let me know off list. Once I check with the previous owners to make sure that file isn't personal, anyone is welcome to a copy. One of the cartridges has MPPascal. I am not sure if this is MicroPower? Pascal or if it's a variant of OSI Pascal-2? I do also have OSI Pascal-2 v2.1F on RX02 floppies. I also came accross an RX01 floppy that contains the source code for the RT11 driver and bootstrap for the COI Linktape II. One of my RL01 packs contains XXDP diagnostics, and it is a different version than the 2 verions I've seen available on the net. In addition, I have an RL02 pack that has diagnostics that are older than most I've seen around. I believe I listed both in the online directory listing. Another question - if under RT11 5.04, a disk pack shows "invalid directory"... doesn't that rule out RSX and RSTS packs? In other words, aren't those directories at least visible to RT11? I'm wondering what I can assume if a pack shows invalid directory under RT11 and isn't bootable with regards to the likelyhood I can consider it a scratch pack. I'd rather not init a pack that may contain something. Is there a better way to look? Jay

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Prototyping boards

by aek＠bitsavers.org

Twin Industries is also still around http://twinind.com/catalog.php?id=7#sc13

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MMJ cable length?

by tothwolf＠concentric.net

I was thinking about putting together some standard MMJ cables, but I realized I didn't know what the standard lengths were. Can anyone tell me which were the most common/useful lengths for the original DEC cables? I've seen and use cables as short as 18" and as long as 50ft. I've used a lot of them that were somewhere in the 12-15ft range, but I'm not sure what length would be the most versatile. -Toth

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Suggestions on through-hole prototyping board

by aek＠bitsavers.org

Halted has a bunch of FR4 proto boards from a company called "Syntax" They were clearing the shelves the last time I looked, though, and had the stuff marked down. I don't remember their being a manuf adr on the packaging though.

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OT - 486 w/newer IDE drives

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

Got this barebones 486 mobo. I'm trying to setup a 20 gig Fujitsu MPG3204AH drive. Types 1-46...then there's 47. I'm looking for the parameters as I type this. Has anyone accomplished this? What about a newer cd-rom drive? I don't have any 3.5" drives at my location, but I know that somewhere I have a Win98SE boot cd (I made it). Don't think I have any 5.25" boot floppies either. I'm a mess! Trying to get some images burned onto floppies, so I can play :). I doubt I can get this working today. I did make that hard drive bootable some time ago, but the P166MMX unit wouldn't boot from it. I don't have a clue. If anyone can call me, that would be great LOL! 8016260<area code 732>. I can't get my dialup stuph working, and I had to drive to a nearby hotspot w/my laptop just to do this! Man am I a mess. Can't find a 3.5 anywhere in my stash. That would make everything work. O man. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index

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Amstrad's PCs

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

not the one with the "pop-up" lcd, but didn't Amstrad make a Atari ST-looking model (essentially a whole computer in the keyboard) with presumably an 8088? Can't find it on old-computers.com. Not much but the above mentioned PPC-640 shows up in an casual google search. Actually maybe it had an 8086. Actually maybe the thing I forgot to bid on (a long time ago) didn't have an Intel proc at all, and the auction lied or was misinformed. Though off the subject, I'm desirous of obtaining the Franklin PC 5000, 6000, 8000, you know that tawdry looking brown peecee thing. Offlist please. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com

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A request...

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

Right! Besides, Mark Twain was once heard to remark: "It takes an uncreative man to spell a word only one way!" :) Al Phila, PA P.S.: Got the LNW-80 yesterday. It doesn't work properly, and I can't lift it easily due to an injury. But, my friend Tom will stop by and help me get it running. I can't wait! > From: Fred Cisin <cisin at xenosoft.com> > > > On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Warren Wolfe wrote: > >>> > > I much prefer clarity and correct spelling to "coolness" >>> > > on this list. >>> >> > Excellent. Let's talk about "depricate." >> > > I see a [slight] qualitative difference between accidental/ignorant > misspellinq v deliberate attempts to be "cool" by creating new words. > > > When I went back to college as a grad student, I was worried that my bad > spelling would be an embarrassment. It turned out that MOST of the people > that I dealt with were substantially worse! So, now I have a license > plate frame that proudly proclaims that I am a "UC Berkeley Aluminum". > > > -- > Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com

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PC20 / PC200

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

There is also another "all in one" PC Clone similar to these two machines, though not as nice looking... VTech, the manufacturer of the Laser 128 series of Apple Clones also made several PC Clones. One of them was the Laser 512XT. I have one of them. I'm missing the Power Supply for it, so I don't know if it works. I haven't been able to find one on eBay or anywhere else. It's funny that the PC20 / PC200 was meant to compete with the Atari ST, since Atari also made several PC clones. Every company did, even Commodore at the time. I think my favorite PC Clone was the first one I've ever used, the Columbia MPC. Though I've used several PC Clones over the years: I liked the Mindset too. Although I don't have one of those. Al

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Hard Sector Diskettes, was Re: Northstar Horizon

by marvin＠rain.org

A couple of questions pop up on this Northstar diskette discussion. First, was the oersted rating the same for all of the N* Horizon (and Advantage?) diskettes? And to expand it a bit, what about other hard sectored diskettes ... Heathkit, Vector Graphic, etc. And what about the 8" floppies? My knowledge in this area is nil and I don't recall ever having read anything. Second, it seems to me that someone has already made a punch for modifying soft-sectored floppies to hard sectors. As Tony says, it shouldn't be hard to do. As such, would there be much of a demand for such punches? > On 25 Nov 2006 at 13:34, woodelf wrote: > > > Can't one make a punch template and punch out the holes needed? > > Ok you have to kill a few disks in the process for the sleave and > > floppy part. > > The envelope wouldn't matter--you can usually reuse those. > > I suppose you could punch some diskettes, but soft-sectored diskettes > are still pretty easy to get. > > Cheers, > Chuck

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Pascal in production environments (was Re: lisadraw)

by marvin＠rain.org

> At that company, I learned several times over why Pascal is not my > favorite language. > > -ethan Okay, not ever having learned or used Pascal, what are (were?) some of the limitations of Pascal for production environments?

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Double Punching Diskettes

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

For 5.25" Diskettes, a friend made me a template by taking a piece of plexiglass and punching the holes as a guide in it. I used that template to mark the disk with a silver pencil (not a lead pencil, but a coloring pencil with some wax in it) and then used a regular hole punch to make the holes. Another friend had a metal template made from some thin metal that was bent over so that a disk could be inserted into it, the holes marked with a silver pencil and then punched using a hole punch. I rarely had a DDSS diskette fail on either side. And never had a DSDD disk fail. Though I usually bought Verbatim, Maxell, Elephant or Wabash disks. Even BASF floppies were ok. Though BASF Floppy drives were AWFUL. I did (and do now) have a Wangtek Flippy Drive with the Percom label on it. This drive didn't need extra holes punched since it had two sets of sensors mounted in the drive. You just flipped the disk over and it worked. I'm amazed that I used to think paying $30 for 10 180k diskettes was a bargain... Al Phila, PA

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Northstar Horizon

by river＠zip.com.au

Hi, Thanks for the replies. I've probably seen some of the web sites mentioned as I have downloaded various manuals and documentation for the system. The processor board has the provision for 1K EPROM, which isn't installed. I'd assume it's for a 2708 device. Unfortunately I cannot program these devices, so I can program a 2716 and do some mods to the processor card to make the 2716 work and show only the 1st 1kbyte. In my spares I have a few Dynabyte and Microbyte RAM cards (both static and dynamic), an old MITS 8800B CPU card (which needs some serious TLC), a spare ZPB processor card, some weird S-100 Inc 4K EPROM card which looks like it can take 8 x 512byte, or 4 x 1k or 2 x 2k EPROMS, a Vector Graphics ZCB processor card, and a few S-100 blank prototyping cards and a 4-slot S-100 mainboard. I can wire-wrap up one of the proto boards as an EPROM card if I need more and run the DOS all in silicon, if this is possible. So, if push comes to shove I can modify and use one of my 8080/85 debug/monitors and let it run on the Northstar. I guess the hardest part is getting a set of drives that will run on the AD3 card, along with the necessary diskettes. I rechecked the disk controller card and it is clearly labelled "Micro Disk Controller MDS-AD3", which makes it the double-density diskette controller. I do have another disk controller card, by Delta Products, that has a 1791 FD controller chip on it, but I have no doco for this board. However, the first thing I need to do is clean-up the system, blow out the dust, fix the blown caps and then go through the downloaded documentation that describes how to test/verify the various boards are operational. Again, thanks for you replies and I'm going to join them into a single document for reference and also go to the various links you have supplied to see if I can get more information. regards river

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Various problems

by aliensrcooluk＠yahoo.co.uk

Hi all, Just came across this page (well, someone posted it to another email group) and thought some of you might like to take a look at it. http://www.science.uva.nl/museum/rampspoed.html Among the usual rubber turning to liquid/sticky stuff are dirty keyboards (under the keys), mould on old monitors and a harddrive that is damaged beyond repair :( Regards, Andrew B aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk

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Looking for TRS-80 Model III boot floppy

by alanp＠snowmoose.com

A friend of mine not on the list has a TRS-80 Model III and is looking for a boot floppy for it. 5-1/4" drive. Can anyone help me out here? alan

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Flexowriter 2300 maintenance info somewhere ?

by jos.mar＠bluewin.ch

Once again common sense lost out am I am now the "proud" possessor of a rather run-down Friden-Singer Flexowriter model 2300. Anyone know of online resources for these beasts ? Google / Bitsavers did not yield results. Jos Dreesen

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2 dec printers free for shipping

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

LA210-A2 and LA75 companion printer. Unknown operating condition, yellow and exposed to some dampness. LN03 laser, HEAVY Emulex tape drive, ext. SCSI box - ping ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index

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Northstar Horizon

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: Northstar Horizon > From: "Dave Dunfield" <dave06a at dunfield.com> > Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 09:44:57 -0500 > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > > >> FYI the e800h start address works for SD or DD as the SD rom appears twice >> in the address space at both e800h and e900h. > >Not always - I have several different revs of SD controller cards, and I know that >on at least one of them the E900 rom does NOT mirror at E800 - however I also >have several cards that do mirror (which is nice because you don't have to change >the CPU jumpers to swap SD/DD controllers). I have three revs of the SD controller and all hit on both addresses. Maybe a forth rev? Allison

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Northstar Horizon

by Watzman＠neo.rr.com

The real problem is that it uses HARD-SECTOR 5.25" diskettes, which are just about impossible to find. Yes, you can use a PC compatible 5.25" 360k drive, if it's jumpered properly.

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Northstar Horizon

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: Northstar Horizon > From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> > Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 08:32:35 -0800 > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > >On 25 Nov 2006 at 3:27, jim stephens wrote: > >> And my memory of 256 bytes may be off, I vaguly recall maybe on 32 bytes >> are visible and used by the processor at boot. People had to use pretty small proms >> in the early days of the hobby. > >I recall that the disk controller had a small bipolar prom and that >it was indeed 32 bytes. It was miles better than toggling the boot >code by hand... A 256-byte boot prom back then would have been an >almost obscene luxury... ;) No, it was 256bytes for SD and 512bytes for DD. FYI the e800h start address works for SD or DD as the SD rom appears twice in the address space at both e800h and e900h. Allison

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Northstar Horizon

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: Northstar Horizon > From: "Dave Dunfield" <dave06a at dunfield.com> > Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:29:16 -0500 > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > >> On 25 Nov 2006 at 3:27, jim stephens wrote: >> >> > And my memory of 256 bytes may be off, I vaguly recall maybe on 32 bytes >> > are visible and used by the processor at boot. People had to use pretty small proms >> > in the early days of the hobby. >> >> I recall that the disk controller had a small bipolar prom and that >> it was indeed 32 bytes. It was miles better than toggling the boot >> code by hand... A 256-byte boot prom back then would have been an >> almost obscene luxury... ;) > >Well - then I guess NorthStar was obscene... :-) > >The single-density controller does indeed have 256 byte of ROM (in three chips!) >The double-density one has 512 bytes of ROM. the boot rom was two 256x 4 parts (bipolar) and the third was the address decode for the board (also 256x4 bipolar). > >The controller occupies 1K of memory space from E800-EBFF > E800-EFFF ROM on DD, unused or mirror ROM on SD > E900-E9FF ROM on both SD and DD > EA00-EAFF Hardware control (address is write value) > EB00-EBFF Write data (address is data) > >I might have EA00 & EB00 reversed, it's been a while since I was in the >nuts and bolts of the N* controller. Without checking the manuals thats about right. Allison

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Various problems

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

On 11/26/06, John Robertson <jrr at flippers.com> wrote: > I have similar trouble in my day job which is restoring early arcade > games from the 1960's and 70s.... What a fun job. I'll bet you see some nice items pass by. > Oddly enough the old logic boards seem to keep working, have a few > games from the very early 70's (Computer Space and Pong that are > quite serviceable. so much for the old time theory that cosmic rays > led to TTL failures as these boards would all be dead if that was the > case. I think the cosmic ray theory went away when there was an issue with some 4K Intel DRAMs that turned out to be alpha particles from something radioactive in the clay for the ceramic package, _not_ particles from outer space. The story lived on, though. I've looked at the schematics for Computer Space - looks like it could still be built, if you could stand the rather simplistic gameplay. I've thought about a modern implementation, but it's a "ship in a bottle" project - I'd probably build it, then put it aside fairly quickly -ethan

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"Teletype magnetic tape unit"?

by legalize＠xmission.com

What the heck is this thing, anyone know? <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320053338394&ssPageName=…> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

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A request...

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

Not in the least... Mark Twain was making a joke about educated people mis-spelling words accidentally. He wasn't speaking about people making up words and purposely using them to annoy others in an attempt to be "cool". Al > From: Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> > > --- Al Hartman <alhartman at yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> > Right! >> > >> > Besides, Mark Twain was once heard to remark: >> > >> > "It takes an uncreative man to spell a word only one >> > way!" >> > > My point all along ;)

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SMS LE interface

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> One of the boards (SMS le interface) looks like an interface to a > disk controller. SMS made a dual disk system that had a 8" floppy > and an 8" hard disk in a 3RU cabinet. The system has a controller > in it that connected to the host via a 40 pin ribbon cable. > I think the "le interface" is the host end of that connection... I still > have one of the disk cabinets and controller. (somewhere) Documentation for the winchester/floppy subsystem would be a nice thing to find. SMS made several different subsystems in the 80's with that interface which weren't always compatible with DEC controllers. I have some documentation on the FW series under sms on bitsavers 3000632D_FW_OEM_Feb82.pdf

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Northstar Horizon

by river＠zip.com.au

Hi, I've recently acquired an old Northstar Horizon S-100 system. It has 3 cards; the ZPB-A2 processor card, MDS-A3 disk controller card and the RAM-32-A1 card. It has no diskette drives. The MDS-A3 card has a blown tantalum capacitor (C6) and the motherboard has a blown tantalum capacitor (C1). The motherboard is a HRZ-MB-4. I'm going to clean it up and replace the blown caps and run some checks on the power supply. I also have downloaded the relevant documentation to check the processor and disk controller cards, and also the HRZ-MB documentation. Assuming all goes well I need to get my hands on some disk images to run on this system. Does anyone know where I can get such images? Also, can I use old IBM PC full-height 360K disk drives in this machine? regards river

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Dilog DQ-20 & DQ-130 docs? (More Mystery Qbus boards)

by oldcpu＠rogerwilco.org

Charles wrote: > > www.rogerwilco.org/mystery_boards/#Dilog_DQ130 > > http://www.dilog.com/unibus.html > > DQ130 Qbus, Pertec I/O, TM11, 4 drives, Quad Height Ah, yes, I'd forgotten that link which I came across a couple of months ago. Sadly, no doc online. I guess I could try out their support team and see how friendly they are with requests for informatoin on 25-year old gear. ;) J

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Northstar Horizon

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: Northstar Horizon > From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> > Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 10:02:05 -0800 > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > >On 25 Nov 2006 at 13:29, Dave Dunfield wrote: > >> Well - then I guess NorthStar was obscene... :-) > >My comment was directed toward your reference to the Tarbell >controller, not the NS. > >> The single-density controller does indeed have 256 byte of ROM (in three chips!) >> The double-density one has 512 bytes of ROM. > >A question crops up: why? What's the point--you need only enough to >load a sngle sector. Was the NS controller so badly implemented >that it required that much code to read a single sector? I would not say badly implemented, more like dirt simple. NS* took the software can replace hardware path. For example the code in the rom sets the drive select, does the step direction and timing and walks through the find the right sector, wait for sync flag and start reading process. Allison

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Northstar Horizon

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

> >Subject: Re: Northstar Horizon > From: "Barry Watzman" <Watzman at neo.rr.com> > Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 14:56:01 -0500 > To: <cctech at classiccmp.org> > >The real problem is that it uses HARD-SECTOR 5.25" diskettes, which are just >about impossible to find. > >Yes, you can use a PC compatible 5.25" 360k drive, if it's jumpered >properly. Correct! I'm using FD55BV (half height 48tpi two side) and they work fine for either SD or DD. The official drive for SD version was SA400 (35 track) and for DD SA400L or TM100 as by then both were the standard. Allison

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need a plotter... in or near nj not wa :(

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

offlist if you please :) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com

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FREE pen plotter (and other goodies) in Kent, WA

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Fellow Techies, I've said it on my web site, and I'll say it here: Scrounging is not so much ongoing acquisition as it is a 'flow-thru' of goodies. Any tech-scrounger will eventually hit the point where they Just Need To Move Stuff Out. Such is the case with me right now, so I'd like to take a moment here to feed back to the same 'techie food chain' that I've benefited from for so many moons. Specifically: I've got the following FREEBIES available for PICKUP ONLY, NO SHIPPING in Kent, Washington. The only condition I place on the stuff is that whoever takes it needs to be taking it to USE IT, not to sell it for scrap. --HP DraftMaster SX Plus large-format pen plotter, in excellent condition. Includes a whole slew of pens (condition unknown, but they've been kept capped in an indoor environment) and two packages of big paper (including a pack of Size D sheets). This item is not that heavy, and it is on wheels, but it is bulky and tall. You will need at least a small pickup truck with an open bed to move it properly. --Compaq ProLiant 6500 server with twin Pentium Pro 200's. This was the box that was originally running my FTP archive (I've since upgraded to a later model of ProLiant). Working condition, 512MB RAM, and I think I could find a pair of rack slides and maybe even enough 4 gig drives to make a small array if you twist my arm enough. --A pair of Sun SPARC-10 systems with at least 50MHz HyperSPARC CPU modules installed. These used to run part of my Internet presence before I upgraded to HP NetServers, so I know they work. RAM and hard drives included (though I will need to wipe the drives before they're taken as they still contain security-sensitive data). If you'd like any or all of the goodies (hopefully all in one swell foop?), just drop me a line. Keep in mind that I don't currently subscribe to the CCTech or CCTalk lists, so you'll need to let me know via direct E-mail. If, for whatever reason, your E-mail bounces you can give me a buzz on 253-639-2996. Thanks in advance for helping me find this stuff a good home. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?"

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Northstar Horizon

by Watzman＠neo.rr.com

Re: "But you will have a bit of a "chicken and egg" problem - the NorthStar disks are hard-sectored, which means that you can only make them on a system with the NorthStar controller. Unless you have other N* systems kicking around you will have to use the Horizon. But the Horizon has no front panel, or other means to easily bootstrap code into it other than the disk drive." Install the North Star disk controller card into a CP/M system configured such that there are no memory or I/O port conflicts. Then you can assemble source code of the NorthStar DOS using CP/M's ASM, and load it into RAM using DDT. There are routines in the NorthStar ROM (which will now exist in the CP/M system) for formatting a disk and writing out RAM to the diskette. It's possible for a NorthStar controller and a typical CP/M soft sector controller to co-exist in the same system at the same time, if you resolve any I/O port and memory conflicts. This allows the use of CP/M and all of it's facilities (in particular, source code editors, ASM and DDT) to create a first NorthStar diskette. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 06:56:50 -0500 From: "Dave Dunfield" <dave06a at dunfield.com> Subject: Re: Northstar Horizon To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <200611251101.kAPB1t0K026282 at hosting.monisys.ca> > It has no diskette drives. The MDS-A3 card has a blown tantalum capacitor > (C6) and the motherboard has a blown tantalum capacitor (C1). The > motherboard is a HRZ-MB-4. Make sure you have the disk controller designation right - My single density NorthStar controllers are called MDC-An and the double density ones are called MDS-AD(n). You need to figure out if you have a single density or double density controller in order to determine which boot disk you need. If it's MDS, I think it should be double-density, but I expected the latter part to be "-AD3". I have photos of both controller types on my site the difference between a single-density and a double-density is easy to see . > I'm going to clean it up and replace the blown caps and run some checks on > the power supply. I also have downloaded the relevant documentation to check > the processor and disk controller cards, and also the HRZ-MB documentation. I have a lot of NorthStar material and documentation on my site - much of it in the Altair section (One of my Altairs has a NorthStar controller). > Assuming all goes well I need to get my hands on some disk images to run on > this system. Does anyone know where I can get such images? Also, can I use > old IBM PC full-height 360K disk drives in this machine? I have many images for both single and double density Horizon systems on my site - if It's SD, your choices are NorthStar DOS and my own DMF system. If DD, the choices are NorthStar DOS, CP/M and UCSD Pascal. But you will have a bit of a "chicken and egg" problem - the NorthStar disks are hard-sectored, which means that you can only make them on a system with the NorthStar controller. Unless you have other N* systems kicking around you will have to use the Horizon. But the Horizon has no front panel, or other means to easily bootstrap code into it other than the disk drive. If you happen to have an S-100 ROM card, you could use it to bootstrap the Horizon. I've got a very simple monitor that you can use to bootstrap in the NorthStar tools archive. Also - in case you are not aware, the 10 sector diskette are physically different than a typical soft-sector diskette (11 sector holes instead of one) - you need 10-sector diskettes for the Horizon which can be difficult to find. Dave -- dave06a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Collector of vintage computing equipment: http://www.classiccmp.org/dunfield/index.html ******************

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Model 19 teletype on ebay

by legalize＠xmission.com

<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110060375575&ssPageName=…> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

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Northstar Horizon

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

River, I happen to have a Northstar on the table now, and I am in the process of making backups of the system disks now that I have it up and running. Here is a picture: http://www.vintagecomputer.net/northstar/horizon/northstar_horizon_card_view. jpg Contact me off list for a boot disk. http://www.retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff/d_nstar.html ..is a good place to start for documentation and manuals. Bill D > >Hi, > >I've recently acquired an old Northstar Horizon S-100 system. > <snip> >Assuming all goes well I need to get my hands on some disk images to run on >this system. Does anyone know where I can get such images? Also, can I use >old IBM PC full-height 360K disk drives in this machine? > >regards >river

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Special HD20 INIT file

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 11/25/2006 4:20:48 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, teoz at neo.rr.com writes: Apple apparently made a special INIT file for the HD20 (non SCSI HD that connected to the back of a Mac 128K or 512K using the 19 pin floppy port) so that unsupported machines (like an SE/30) could read the drive and copy the files from it (but not write to it). Anybody here happen to have a copy of this special INIT file? Somebody has some data they need off the drive (he is in Japan) and only has an SE/30 to use. Anything pre Nubus is out of my experience level so I figured somebody here might have the file needed ------------------------------ IIRC, Apple tech support mentioned that the SE/30 was not supported. However, I plugged my HD20 into a IIci and it worked just fine.

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DSSI Trilink connector in Renton

by compoobah＠valleyimplants.com

Any interest in one of these? It's a DEC DSSI trilink connector- HD68 to 2x (microribbon? nanoribbon? not sure) 50, as used on the best HSD arrays- etc. etc. etc. In Renton, WA near Seattle.

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Dilog DQ-20 & DQ-130 docs? (More Mystery Qbus boards)

by oldcpu＠rogerwilco.org

I've got a couple of additional boards that I've rustled up, and can't seem to locate any information on them. Can anyone point me to a source? I've also posted images of these two boards on my Mystery Qbus Boards page: www.rogerwilco.org/mystery_boards/#Dilog_DQ20 www.rogerwilco.org/mystery_boards/#Dilog_DQ130 A big thanks to all that have responded to my request for more information on my handful of 'Mystery Boards'. Thanks, Charles, I now have enough information on the Clearpoint Q-RAM 44B (I thought it was 11B) 2MB memory board to make use of it (still not sure what the 'F' jumpers are for...) J

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wtd - pc tech journals

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

I also have Jan and Feb of 85 --- cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote: > 86 and prior. I have some from 86-87, so trades are > also of interest. And if anyone (even Pat ;) should > need an issue or article, cram it! LOL LOL only kidding > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > http://new.mail.yahoo.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index

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Copyright Exemptions for

by technobug＠comcast.net

An article on Yahoo News <http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061123/ ap_on_hi_te/digital_copyright> dealing with recent copyright exemptions granted by the US Library of Congress had an item of interest for classiccmp listers buried down at the bottom: "He granted two exemptions dealing with computer obsolescence. For computer software and video games that require machines no longer available, copy-protection controls may be circumvented for archival purposes. Locks on computer programs also may be broken if they require dongles ? small computer attachments ? that are damaged and can't be replaced." CRC

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Mystery Qbus boards

by oldcpu＠rogerwilco.org

Dave McGuire wrote: > On Nov 22, 2006, at 8:05 PM, Charles H. Dickman wrote: >> I also have DT2769, DT3371 and DT3382 boards without documentation. >> I emailed Data Translation for any support information and they >> didn't have any "at hand", but would get me copies from their >> archives for a service charge of US$50 or something. Since I didn't >> really have any use for them, whatever they were, I passed. >> >> The DT2769 is a KWV11-C Programmable Real-Time Clock. If you look >> in the Micro/PDP-11 Handbook page 214, the boards are essentially >> identical. Yes, I had noticed that they are very, very similar. In fact the system (see more below) that contains all of these DT boards, also contains a real KWV11. Why the system needs both is also a mystery to me... >> >> The analog hybrid (?) block on the DT3382 is the same as that on >> the ADV11. The DC006 and DC010 chips indicate that it does DMA. >> >> Never figured out the DT3371 either. It has two analog outputs >> though. :-) It also does DMA (DC006 and DC010 again). You both may be interested in having a look at the system that these boards all came in. It is a Data Translations LAB DATAX box with an H9275A backplane and, by the time I got it, an LSI-11/2 CPU. The front panel is really also the rear panel. There is a DLV11-J with four serial lines brougth to 9-pin D connectors, and some BNC-type connectors for signals in and out from the box. What kind of software goes with it I don't know, but I do see the system auto-booting to some roms on the DT3382-8DI board (I think) and I wonder if just starts processing when powered up. Don't know for sure. There is a label on the underside of the top cover that I believe represents the original configuration when it came out of DT: 1- KDF11 & KEF11AA | D4 Interface 2- DLV-11-J (177560) | 256KB Memory 3- LDT3382-DI (771420) -> 4- LDT2768 (167770) | LDT3371 (771140 / 420) 5- LDT2769 (170420) | (empty) 6- (empty) | (empty) 7- (empty) | (empty) 8- (empty) | (empty) 9- KPV-11-A (177546) | (empty) I have no idea what the 'D4 Interface' is. It's no longer in the box. I've added a couple of images of the box to my Mystery Boards webpage: http://www.rogerwilco.org/mystery_boards/#DATAX > I'd not mind getting my grubby paws on those Data Translation > boards if you or J want to unload them, maybe some swappage or > something. I do lots of related hacking and would likely pop for the > $50 for the docs before too long so they can be used. (and get them > to Al of course) Thanks for the interest. For now, though, I think I'll hang on to this DT gear since it looks to be a 'system'. Perhaps I should spring for the $50 doc set. How long ago did you make your inquiry to DT? >> Didn't Data Translation always have the company presidents face in >> every advertisement? I can see the face, but don't remember the >> name... [Google for it] Fred Molinari. > He was rather hilarious in many of their ads...that always gave me > a laugh. Oh...ahhh...before my time, I guess. I must have missed that 'show'. J

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Mystery Q-bus boards

by oldcpu＠rogerwilco.org

Charles H. Dickman wrote: > Notes on the Clearpoint Q-RAM 44B memory card > {snip} Chuck, this is good information! After reviewing your supplied info, I got to fiddling with my board. As it turns out, there was a hand-written sticky label (with just the number "225" on it) on the module handle. Must have been some previous owners ID tag. Well, it's old enough that with my handling, it started to fall off, so I just peeled it away. Underneath I found a small, but machine printed, label that reads "44B". Though the etched markings indicate "11B", I must have the same board that you have! With that found out, I was confident in your information and tried the board in an 11/73 system. Sure enough it works great! All 2MB (1MW) is visible and though I haven't run any serious memory tests, STRTRK runs fine under RT11. For the record (and if you don't mind that I borrow your artwork) here are my jumper configurations for 000000 base address; 256Kb chips; 2MB (1MW) memory size; parity CSR at standard; and 22-bit bus: 1 0 | A o== | | B o== 3 | o== 2 | o== 1 | | C ==o b1 | ==o b0 | | D o== 1M | o== 512k | o== 256k | | E o== 21 F ==o | o== 20 ==o | o== 19 ooo | o== 18 | ---| | | ----------------------------- A: 18 bit Q-Bus 1 = 18bit, 0 = 22bit B: Parity Memory CSR Address base address is 17772100 + bit jumpers C: Chip size select b1: bank 1: 1 = 256k chips, 0 = 64k chips b0: bank 0: 1 = 256k chips, 0 = 64k chips D: Memory Size 1M: 1 = 2M, 0 = 1M 512k: 1 = 1M, 0 = 512k 256k: 1 = 512k, 0 = 256k E: Base address 1 = adr bit, 0 = adr bit F: ? I don't know how your F jumpers are set, but mine (as indicated above) don't seem to hurt. Until we can find some documentation, I'm just going to leave them the way they are. (Yes, F1 and F2 are jumpered to the left (1), and F3 is removed altogether.) Thanks a lot! J

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Special HD20 INIT file

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

Apple apparently made a special INIT file for the HD20 (non SCSI HD that connected to the back of a Mac 128K or 512K using the 19 pin floppy port) so that unsupported machines (like an SE/30) could read the drive and copy the files from it (but not write to it). Anybody here happen to have a copy of this special INIT file? Somebody has some data they need off the drive (he is in Japan) and only has an SE/30 to use. Anything pre Nubus is out of my experience level so I figured somebody here might have the file needed. Thanks, TZ

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Looking for AIX 4.1.5 or .6

by g-wright＠att.net

Hi, I have PowerPc ThinkPad that needs a early version of AIX 4.1.5 or .6. Anyone have a copy. The one I have has it on the drive but no Password. Thanks, Jerry Jerry Wright

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A request...

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

Can we please depricate use of the non-word "stuph"? Unless of course we have 'l33t d00dz" on this list that can't help but make up annoying spellings of words. I much prefer clarity and correct spelling to "coolness" on this list. Thanks! Al Phila, PA

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cctalk Digest, Vol 39, Issue 60

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

Let's not. Since it was an unintentional spelling error, as opposed to a non-word. Al cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > Excellent. Let's talk about "depricate." > > > > Peace, > > Warren E. Wolfe > wizard at voyager.net

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Copyright Exemptions for

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> So its not granting it carte > blanche for every person, but it is good news for those of us who run > actual museums or archives. What museum/archive are you associated with? "csd.uwm.edu" would be the Computing Services Division of the University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee, where I worked in the early 80's. At least back then, there was no archive associated with CSD. --al (Software Curator, Computer History Museum)

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wtd - pc tech journals

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

86 and prior. I have some from 86-87, so trades are also of interest. And if anyone (even Pat ;) should need an issue or article, cram it! LOL LOL only kidding ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com

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On.T. Pionex P1-200MMX system tower , needs a new home. Actual shipping + $8.00 for effort and materials.

by whdawson＠nidhog.net

<lurk off> Before I offer this on the local Freecycle maybe there's someone here that would want it. Solidly built and has lots of expandability, a very well laid out Wintel box. Lots of room. Currently running Windows 95 OSR2B and has passed memtest, very stable & very clean. According to the current rules this is OnT. If I offend anyone, please accept my apologies. I don't want to start a war, I only want a fellow collector to have this "classic" machine, if wanted. I just don't have any more room and can't stash it away. Those of you that have been here know what I mean. Motherboard is a BioStar MP-8500TVG with i430VX chipset (Details can be found on archive.org (wayback machine)). Can take AMI, Cyrix and Intel processors. Also will take a P1-233MMX. AMI BIOS (TVG0819 1995) 51-0819-001223-00111111-071595-82430VX-H (nice BIOS) 4 PCI slots, 4 ISA slots. 2 USB ports 2 serial, 1 parallel. 3GB hard drive, IDE (1.36 GB free) 2 empty 3-1/2 hard drive bays! 1 CDROM, unknown speed, IDE Standard 3-1/2 1.2MB floppy drive. 3 empty 5-1/4 bays! Pentium 200MMX (Socket 7) 512K L2 cache (verified with cachechk) 32MB memory (2x16 pin 72 pin). There are 2 more empty 72 pin memory sockets and 2 168 pin sockets. Mix and match is OK, I tried it and it works (with older non SPD chip 168 pin memory). Also takes EDO. S3 Virge PCI video Ensonique PCI sound 200W Bestec power supply. Various software applications of the Win95 Era and a few newer (of the Orifice 2K persuasion) others. RingCentral 4.0: Phone Answering Machine application with mailboxes and Faxing software (sorry, I'm likely keeping the installed ViVa 56LC-SM modem, but the this application should work with any voice modem if you want to use this box as an answering machine. A few cheap-bottle-of-wine $s would convince me to leave the ViVa modem in). I'm in Washington, PA, zip code 15301. Pick up to save shipping and effort costs is OK. Email me directly if interested at pionex_at_ss-50_dot_com. Regards, Bill http://www.swtpc.com </lurk off> -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

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Happy Thanksgiving!

by ploopster＠gmail.com

To all of those in the US, happy Thanksgiving. To all of those not in the US, please forgive the waste of bandwidth. 8-) Peace... Sridhar

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sanyo lat-200a

by fa475919＠skynet.be

Well, Tony, that probably is a good question, but honestly I do not know for sure. My own guess is also that this particular card worked for the crashed harddrive only... The card consists out of 2 rather big main processors from what I can tell : - SMS OMTI 20516B (84 pins) - SMS OMTI 20513 (84 pins) And then some other smaller components from: - SMS OMTI J20527C - ZILOG Z86C9112VSC All other components are pretty much mainstream Mhz-crystals and small diodes/resistors The board is about the size of half a CD-box and has no power connection, only the 50 pins cable from the motherboard and the 26 pins cable to the harddrive... Greetz

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Happy Thanksgiving!

by cheri-post＠web.de

Well, what about the Americans who live outside the US ? ;-) Pierre > > To all of those in the US, happy Thanksgiving. > > To all of those not in the US, please forgive the waste of bandwidth. 8-) > > Peace... Sridhar _______________________________________________________________________ Viren-Scan f?r Ihren PC! Jetzt f?r jeden. Sofort, online und kostenlos. Gleich testen! http://www.pc-sicherheit.web.de/freescan/?mc=022222

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"Teletype magnetic tape unit"?

by aliensrcooluk＠yahoo.co.uk

--- Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote: > What the heck is this thing, anyone know? > > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ite m=320053338394&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1> > > -- I don't think anyone else has replied yet, but a quick google search for "Teletype Model 40" found this amongst others. It looks to be correct (see the last pic on the page). http://www.baudot.net/teletype/M40.htm Regards, Andrew B aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk

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Classiccmp in NZ (was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!)

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

o thats right pengies live in the n.hemisphere. But with all this talk of global warming, perhaps a few will move in before long... --- cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/24/06, Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote: > > off the ice as in S.Pole? Crikeys mate you must be > > having the time! Smack a penguin for me, ay? ;) > > Yes... off the Ice as in South Pole. > > No penguins there... nothing to eat at the Pole (nearest water is > hundreds of miles away). They are too smart to go there; humans > aren't. ;-) > > -ethan ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com

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FPGAs, unobtanium and FPJ11s

by bqt＠softjar.se

Gordon JC Pearce <gordon at gjcp.net> skrev: > > The thought occurred to me that it might be nice to have the > floating-point option in my PDP-11/73. Since I haven't got one, and > don't fancy paying the $500 or so that some online sellers seem to be > asking (do they really expect to sell *any*, never mind at that price?), > I was wondering how easy it would be to implement in an FPGA as was > discussed at length earlier in the week. > > Feasible, or a complete waste of time? Presumably I'd need software > written to make use of the floating-point hardware anyway... > > Gordon. Can't really answer your primary question, but to fill in some information for you, the FPA for the J11 is an *accelerator* (hence FPA, and not FPP). It will not add any instructions to the CPU. The J11 already implements all the instructions of the FP11. What the FPA do is speed them up. And software wise, there is plenty of software that uses the FP11 instructions. Mostly high level languages, though. Johnny

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Classiccmp in NZ (was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!)

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

On 11/24/06, Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> wrote: > Pierre Gebhardt wrote: > > Well, what about the Americans who live outside the US ? ;-) > > Well, happy Thanksgiving to y'all too! > > Peace... Sridhar Strangely enough, I find myself in that category... After 13+ months, I'm back off the Ice and thawing out in NZ for a number of weeks. While there's a small chance I'll make it up to Hamilton before New Years, I think this trip, I'll mostly be on the South Island. If there are any Classiccmpers in Christchurch or Dunedin who wouldn't mind a visit, drop me a line, off-list, and we can go for a beer or equivalent. -ethan

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Classiccmp in NZ (was Re: Happy Thanksgiving!)

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

off the ice as in S.Pole? Crikeys mate you must be having the time! Smack a penguin for me, ay? ;) --- cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/24/06, Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> wrote: > > Pierre Gebhardt wrote: > > > Well, what about the Americans who live outside the US ? ;-) > > > > Well, happy Thanksgiving to y'all too! > > > > Peace... Sridhar > > Strangely enough, I find myself in that category... > > After 13+ months, I'm back off the Ice and thawing out in NZ for a > number of weeks. While there's a small chance I'll make it up to > Hamilton before New Years, I think this trip, I'll mostly be on the > South Island. If there are any Classiccmpers in Christchurch or > Dunedin who wouldn't mind a visit, drop me a line, off-list, and we > can go for a beer or equivalent. > > -ethan ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index

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Tandy GT2000 Digitizer Tablet

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

Got one, but no stylus, cable or docs/drivers. Any help would be appreciated. I'd like to use it with a model 2000 of course. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com

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Amiga Quiz

by aliensrcooluk＠yahoo.co.uk

--- Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote: > > --- Adrian Graham <witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk> > wrote: > >> snip << > Yeah but at least I knew that the 68010 was never > used in an original 'miga. Actually I'm at a > terrible > loss to name the unit that used a 68020 BUT AT LEA ST > I > GOT IT RIGHT! HA! > That's easy. The Amiga CD32 (I own one). I got all the A600 related questions right, which is good as I own two :) Regards, Andrew B aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk

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FA : ED-Lab 980 Microcomputer Lab

by stephane.tsacas＠gmail.com

Hi, Seems 2 units are for auction. What it is I don't know, but it look like an old Moog ;-) http://dovebid.com/assets/display.asp?ItemID=tbd295149 -- Stephane Paris, France.

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MicroPower/Pascal

by aek＠bitsavers.org

I put an introductory manual up under pdp11/rt11/micropowerPascal on bitsavers. There is a five volume manual set for the product, which doesn't appear to be in the CHM archives. Looks like that would be a good thing to be on the lookout for.

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Free H9642 rack in Milpitas CA

by bob＠jfcl.com

I have more racks than I can use (or store), so I have one, maybe two, to give away. It's just the bare rack - no sides, door or top, but it does have casters and it's free :-) Pickup only in Milpitas CA. Bob Armstrong

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OT - 486 w/newer IDE drives

by kelly＠catcorner.org

> > Does anyone really care about the smaller (<2GB) 3.5" drives anymore? > I've been wiping and recycling the ones that I have--is this a > mistake? I've still got a few old <1GB Conner drives if anyone's > interested. Some <4GB WD's and Quantums also. > I use them in support of the old packet network here in New Jersey. If anyone is throwing away the smaller drives let me know. I'll take them for the price of shipping. I could use 5 or 6 less than 540 meg drives. A typical packet backbone node using flex net takes less than 10 meg, and runs comfortably in a 486/66 with 16 meg of RAM. Kelly

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Ultrix Distribution tapes - what do they all mean?

by bob＠jfcl.com

I was lucky enough to be able to borrow a box of random Ultrix TK50 distribution tapes. Unfortunately I have to give it back, but before I do I'd like to be able do a complete Ultrix installation on some system that I have. The printed labels on the tapes are somewhat cryptic, however - here's a sampling of what I have DECNET-ULTRIX V2.0 BIN ULTRIX-32W V1.0 BIN ULTRIX WS 1.1 UNSUPP VAX C/ULTRIX V1.0 ULTRIX-32 V2.0 SUPPORTED ULTRIX-32 V2.0 STAND ALONE / ULTRIX TK50 #1 ULTRIX WS V2.0 (RISC) FORTRAN FOR RISC V1.0 ULTRIX AND UWS (VAX) UNSUPPORTED SUBSETS ULTRIX/UWS T4.0A-1 (RISC) / SUPPORTED VOL 1 Dumb question #1 - I assume that the ones that say (VAX) are VAX, and the ones that say (RISC) are PMAX/MIPS, but are the ones that don't specify (e.g. "DECNET-ULTRIX V2.0" or "ULTRIX-32W V1.0 BIN") also assumed to be VAX? What actually constitutes a complete Ultrix base system distribution? Is it three tapes - SUPPORTED, UNSUPPORTED, and (if necessary) WORKSTATION ? Are the SUPPORTED tapes supposed to be bootable? Roughly what hardware is supported by the VAX versions? I would guess a MicroVAX/VAXstation-II/2000 should work, but what about a KA650/655 (uVAX-III/III+) ? Was there any Ultrix version that ran on a VAXstation-4000/60/90/VLC? Does the DECNET version correspond to the Ultrix version (e.g. DECNET V2.0 for Ultrix V2.0)? Probably the most important question - are there any scanned Ultrix SPDs and/or installation instructions online anywhere? This would probably answer all my other questions :-) Thanks, Bob Armstrong

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RL01 directory listings

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> MPP15 .DSK 3500P 29-Jul-84 I'll see if I can dig up anything on uP Pascal in the archives. I've never actually seen a copy. > Another question - if under RT11 5.04, a disk pack shows "invalid > directory"... doesn't that rule out RSX and RSTS packs? Nope.. RT can't read either. You can normally guess the file system type by an ASCII dump of the first block or two.

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Mystery Q-bus boards

by oldcpu＠rogerwilco.org

I've collected a number of Q-bus boards for PDP-11s and/or VAXen that I'm trying to identify and locate documentation for. Poking around the web, checking bitsavers. org and Manx, and looking at the Q-bus field guide have so far turned up nothing for me. I'd like to ask all of you Q-bus experts for some input. I've cobbled together a webpage with some images here: http://www.rogerwilco.org/mystery_boards At this moment, I'm most interested in information and documentation on the Clearpoint Q-BUS 11B. I'd like to use this in a PDP-11/23+ or 11/73, hoping to get Ultrix-11 or BSD2.9 running. All comments are welcome on- or off-list. Thanks! J

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looking for OLD copies of PC Magazine

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

let me know :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Simulators/Emulators

by roger.holmes＠microspot.co.uk

Back in the early 70s, I did a computer science degree and was taught that a simulator was a program and an emulator was a microprogram, both to execute the instruction set of another computer, but at a different level. There is another class of simulation I have been considering lately. For machines like my ICT 1301, which I would guess has about ten thousand gates, it would be possible to write a program which does a gate level simulation on a fast machine like my 2GHz Mac. You could even simulate the signals in the machine, hook up a simulated oscilloscope and look at the waveforms. The slow rise times and overshooting might not be possible to show of course, but maybe even this could be added. You could even simulate logic faults for educational purposes and show how they used to be tracked down via the console, the logic diagrams and an oscilloscope. Now that really would be a historical/educational tool. Or am I just dreaming? Could I OCR the old line printer listings of the interconnection lists and use them to build the simulator? Simulating the audio output (which is pulsed on most conditional branch instructions) is another issue I am thinking about. Modern computers can obviously make the sounds, but how do I convert >from a live stream of speaker reversals into what a modern machine needs? Roger.

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can anyone ID this terminal?

by legalize＠xmission.com

Photos: <http://www.govliquidation.com/aucimg/photos/2896/2895309.jpg> <http://www.govliquidation.com/aucimg/photos/2896/2895310.jpg> Lot: <http://cgi.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=1045428&categoryId=1004> That fuzzy red thing in the photo is a plastic 1 foot ruler. Any ideas? -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 draft available for download <http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/book/download/index.html> Legalize Adulthood! <http://blogs.xmission.com/legalize/>

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Amiga Quiz

by aliensrcooluk＠yahoo.co.uk

--- Jules Richardson <julesrichardsonuk at yahoo.co.uk > wrote: > aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk wrote: > > I got all the A600 related questions right, > > which is good as I own two :) > > Out of interest, why was the answer to the "Only > Amiga makes it possible" > advertising slogan question "because it can > multi-task and run a second OS" I have no idea. I knew it was either that one or the "it can have 4096 colours on a screen". I guess it depends how you define "multi-tasking". As an Amiga owner with a A600 (with 2MB) it can run say up to 10 applications at once (depending how much memory they eat up) theoretically. Whether it can or not I don't know, since I generally only have 2 or 3 things running at once (eg. Workbench, a music program and AMOS Pro). > (or words to that effect) - surely plenty of syste ms > had existed before the > Amiga which could do just that. They might have be en > big and expensive, but > I'm sure it wasn't a new concept. > > Gawd, extra-halfbrite mode. That takes me back... > > > I got 11 out of 30. I suck. :-) > > > What's the state of play with Amiga emulators thes e > days - are they any good > (and complete)? What's archived, on-line software > availability like? I think Firstly I apologise if the next bit seems like free advertising, but it's all relevant :) Amiga Hardware ---------------- Various "new projects" in the pipeline, including a PPC based machine and Amy '05. New "Amiga's" since Commodore went under include The Pegasos and the AmigaOne. There are 2 sites I can point you to for a pretty near complete (if not complete) archive of info about Amiga hardware. The first is Commodore Amiga Retro ( http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com ) and includes loads of decent sized pictures of all the various Amiga's, and other retro computers. The other one is known as the Big Book Of Hardware. Sorry, I don't have an URL for it as I have never visited it. But from what I have heard about it, it has a complete archive of all Amiga hardware, including pripherals. Amiga emulators ----------------- Don't really know much about them. There are a few out there. UAE is one of them, but I forget what it stands for. Amiga software ---------------- http://www.lemonamiga.com has a huge archive of info about loads of Amiga games, some movie clips and some interviews with famous Amiga people. http://www.aminet.net is a huuuuge online database of games, utilities, tools, libraries and other Amiga stuff developed by bedroom (aka homebrew) coders. There are atleast 6 mirror sites based all over Europe and in the US. Ownership of Aminet recently changed hands (either this year, or last year) and so should be around for quite a while yet. I recently bought a modem for my A600 so I could upload my stuff onto there, but before I could do so I ran into problems (my original Amiga 600 died). Amiga magazines ----------------- There are only 2 magazines that I know of: Amiga Forever is a Germany-based magazine which AFAIK is in English. There are special issues available that come with CD's/DVD's full of software, video's and other stuff. Total Amiga is a UK-based magazine which comes out quarterly, and is the one I buy. Due to high demand in Europe and the US it is professionally printed in the UK and in Canada. It includes a round-up of the latest Amiga news, the latest info about OS4, interviews with people such as Eric Schwartz and Dave Haynie. Acquiring Hardware/Software ---------------------------- There are also various online shops to buy Amiga software and hardware including: http://www.amikit.com http://www.amigadeals.co.uk and an online advertising board for buying / selling Amiga kit: http://www.amibench.org (or .net , both work) Regards, Andrew B aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk PS. Sorry if that was too long, or if anyone fell asleep!

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wtd: Fujitsu Micro16s

by trag＠io.com

>Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 14:43:57 -0800 >From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com> >On 22 Nov 2006 at 15:31, Jeff Walther wrote: > >> There was (and may still be) a fellow on Ebay selling a pair for $6 >> shipped. Ah, here it is >Wasn't the Micro 16s a PeeCee-type machine that could use different >CPU boards? (Z80, 8088, 68K maybe?). I've got a couple of diskettes >from one in my collection, but I can't say that I've seen one up >close and in person. If that's the case, then *Whoops!*. Sorry. I just immediately though 16 bit microcontroller. I guess I've been reading too much of the FPGA thread. Gets me thinking on the chip level. Jeff Walther

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Amiga Quiz

by compoobah＠valleyimplants.com

Ethan wrote >In the realm of 68K >Macs, though, I'm not sure if they can or do use an MMU if present. Apart from A/UX and the other *IXes using one, System 7 and above would "kind of" use the '851 to manage a pagefile. That was all. The '020 was used in many workstations: the entire Sun-3 series excluding the 3/80, 3/380 and 3/480 (030 based), a number of Apollo stations, the IRIS 3000 and Turbo 2000 series from SGI. Might have still been used except that the 030 was a disappointment and the 040 was late.

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Radius 81/110 power supply needed

by trag＠io.com

>Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:03:45 -0500 >From: David Barnes <davebarnes at adelphia.net> >Hello all; > >I have a Radius mac clone , model 81/110 which needs a new power >supply.... it gave up the ghost this morning... anyone have one >available? or an entire system they want to part with? > >Yes I need to keep this old machine alive.... nubus video capture >cards, etc... It's the same as the Apple 8100 power supply. You'll have better luck finding a power supply for the 8100. Here's one: <http://cgi.ebay.com/Power-Supply-for-an-Apple-PowerMac-8100-Quadra-800-840_…> but that seller (KPS101) plagiarized my Item Description for Beige G3 ROMs so I would love it if folks would refuse to buy from him/her/it. Actually, he continues to plagiarize it to this day when he has them available to sell. Ah, here we go and cheaper too <http://cgi.ebay.com/Powermac-8100-Quadra-800-840av-Power-Supply-614-0012_W0…> And finally from Olde Mac Milt <http://cgi.ebay.com/Quadra-800-840av-PowerMac-8100-Power-Supply_W0QQitemZ87…> This one is in the middle price-wise, but I've dealt with Milt before and he's an upstanding guy. Oh, and he has a 225 watt version as well, the others are 200 watts: <http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-PowerMac-8100-225-Watt-Power-Supply_W0QQitemZ8793…> What kind of video capture are you using in there? Is it a Video Vision Studio? I have one I haven't hooked up yet. One thing that's keeping it down on the list of things to do next is all the (old) talk about fiddling to get decent frame rates. Is it really that hard? Or with a modern hard drive connected to a JackHammer, should one be able to do just fine? Is it difficult or tricky to record the sound along with the video and have them synchronized? And finally, any tools to convert the MJPEG to modern video formats? Jeff Walther

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wtd: Fujitsu Micro16s

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

yes indeed I was referring to a desktop machine. Not sure if had optional uPs - what youre describing sounds alot like the Dimension 68000. --- cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org <cclist at sydex.com> wrote: > On 22 Nov 2006 at 15:31, Jeff Walther wrote: > > > There was (and may still be) a fellow on Ebay selling a pair for $6 > > shipped. Ah, here it is > > <http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-MB90552APF-Fujitsu-MCUs-100-Pin-QFP-FREE-SHIP_W0QQi…> > > Wasn't the Micro 16s a PeeCee-type machine that could use different > CPU boards? (Z80, 8088, 68K maybe?). I've got a couple of diskettes > from one in my collection, but I can't say that I've seen one up > close and in person. > > Cheers, > Chuck ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com

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Somewhat OT: FPGA Develpment Kits

by cclist＠sydex.com

Not vintage, but closely related. Rather than write some emulation software, I'd like to see if I can implement some simpler CPU designs in FPGA. I see various development kits out there with various capabilities (I/O memory, displays, etc.). Is there any particular kit that stands heads and shoulders above the others? Is there a preference between Xilinx and Altera? I'm just looking for some pointers here. Thanks, Chuck

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TX Peripherals?

by cclist＠sydex.com

I'm looking at a reference to the brand "TX Peripherals". A link to their website just brings up the Tapes4u, so I suspect they're out of business. The Wayback machine shows a few pages. It looks as if their 9-track setup used a rebadged Cipher drive, but that's about all I can tell about them. Did they use Pertec-interfaced 9 track drives? Thanks, Chuck

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DEC TU-80 Trouble shooting info

by g-wright＠att.net

Hi Tony Yes, there is activity in the address lines at least. I would beleive is gets hung on something. I can see some activity for a breif period in different parts of the board. like it was in self test. Then it looks like it gets hung. Not sure what type of a Processor it uses, but watching the address lines on the roms it starts out Ok. With all of the Error codes in the manual and none being displayed, It would have to be a very low level problem. As Dave pointed out, it's not a true DEC item. So with out much to go off of it would be a long up hill battle. - Jerry -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) > > It turns on and when you push "logic on" it goes > > into self test and just stays there with out any > > codes displayed. Display just stays at "00" > > voltages look close. DEC manual says system main > > board or voltages off. I guess they just had a > > stack of spare boards to test with. > > Again, I've never worked on one of these, so this is very generic > information. > > If there's a recognisable microprocessor on the controller board, I'd > check it was getting a clock signal, that the reset line wasn't being > held asserted, and then check that there was activity on the bus lines > from said microprocessor. > > This might give you an idea of where to start looking for the fault. > > -tony

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TC08 in an FPGA

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> For the TC08 and similar devices, the issue really comes down to > the Posibus interface and the Blinkenlights. Both are key features > of the TC08, and both are very pin-hungry. Lights can be serially multiplexed to an external holding register / light driver on the panel. A TC08 on an omnibus card would be useful too.

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Amiga Quiz

by aliensrcooluk＠yahoo.co.uk

--- Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> wrote: > > --- aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk wrote: > > > That's easy. The Amiga CD32 (I own one). > > I got all the A600 related questions right, > > which is good as I own two :) > > Hmm a rather late use of the chip - 1993 (the > original Mac II had it in 1987). I think I'm > intrigued. There's a few new ones on ePay for arou nd > $100, not a colossal sum, but I just don't feel li ke > getting Shanghaied ;). > A striking resemblance to the Sega Genesis, and > according to Wiki it can use it's controllers. > I think I'll save my cash for a 1000 though when it > comes along. > It can, however the wiring needs to be swapped (didn't we talk about this a few months ago?) otherwise using the Megadrive controllers can blow a chip (CIA, IC or whatever it was). Regards, Andrew B aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk

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Mystery Q-bus boards

by oldcpu＠rogerwilco.org

Ethan wrote: > I don't have any docs on the CompuServe board, but I can give you a > historical tidbit or two... (snip)... > Ah, thanks for the education. Very interesting. Are there any good online sources of historical infomation about CompuServe and their data center? I should google..... > Try here... http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw/j-boards.shtml ... for a > picture of what looks to be a CompuServe Node serial card. > > Hmmm...yes, too bad Jim doesn't have the picture behind the thumbnail online anymore. Would be interesting to see up close. Thanks for the link. J

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Documentation

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> PS. Al, if you read this, it would be great if you get an ftp server up > and running again... I no longer have direct control of this, since Jay has generously offered the space/bandwidth for the main site. I assume you mean ftp access to the archive?

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wtd: Fujitsu Micro16s

by trag＠io.com

>Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 17:10:06 -0800 (PST) >From: Chris M <chrism3667 at yahoo.com> >Subject: wtd: Fujitsu Micro16s >To: talk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> >Message-ID: <69858.93343.qm at web61012.mail.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > >seems to have been more prevalent in Europe then here. >There was a review in BYTE though. There was (and may still be) a fellow on Ebay selling a pair for $6 shipped. Ah, here it is <http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-MB90552APF-Fujitsu-MCUs-100-Pin-QFP-FREE-SHIP_W0QQi…> I bought a couple from him but have not done anything with them. They came wrapped in antistatic wrap that was bundled up in tape. I don't know if they were already bent, or if I bent the pins undoing the tape, but either way I was not impressed with his packaging job. It's been a while, so my memory is hazy, but somehow I was able to request a CD or DVD of development software from Fujitsu. The European Fujitsu sites seem to have better information on them. Plus I don't think I saw any development boards advertised anywhere except on the European site. However, when I started thinking at the fine detail level, i.e. how do I develop software and run it on this board, as opposed to the coarse detail level, i.e. this board has enough IO pins and memory to do what I want, I realized that having a decent development kit would be very important. The tiny bits of obscure information that the sellers publish about their development kit totally put me off compared to some of the great information that's out there for kits for the Freescale 9S12 for example. So ultimately, I decided that the Fujitsu MCUs will probably stay in a drawer because it's just to big a pain and risk to get a decent development board for them. Of course, my research may have been incomplete or inaccurate and I'd be happy to be shown that it was. Jeff Walther

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Documentation

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> In general, I think its a bad idea to have everything in any community > funnel through a single person. What happens if Al (knock on wood) > should get injured and can't do scans anymore? If we adopted the > "well, just let Al scan everything because he knows how to do it" and > it never gets documented on what is the best way to scan documents, > then we lose everything connected to document scanning when we lose > Al. The only thing that currently has me as the bottleneck is actually putting things onto the web site. I have loaned several people now scanners and as you say, it isn't a good thing to rely on a single person to do all of the work. One area that would be useful would be having others help in the cleanup/post-processing of the raw scans. There is only about 25% of what I've scanned currently on line. The things I try to concentrate on are materials that are rare and out of the mainstream. There are others, for example, that are taking care of microcomputer docs. I also like to collect material on digital magnetic storage devices, for their use in data recovery. I really don't claim to have any 'special knowledge'. There is a particular document processing flow that I prefer to use to have the documents have a consistant 'look' to them. It does change over time, though. I have started adding color cover pages recently as well as more grayscale pictures.

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Amiga Quiz

by aliensrcooluk＠yahoo.co.uk

FYI: I scored 14 out of 30 Regards, Andrew B aliensrcooluk at yahoo.co.uk --- In Commodore_Amiga_Retro at yahoogroups.com, "Paul Hill" <paulroberthill at ...> wrote: > > Hi Amigos, > > Just stumbled across this Amiga quiz while looking logic simulator software: > > http://www.tetzl.de/quiz/quizbegin.cgi > > I scored 20 points out of 30. How about you? > > -- > Paul >

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TC08 in an FPGA

by aek＠bitsavers.org

>> A TC08 on an omnibus card would be useful too. > Nah, you just need yet more Posibus and Data Break cards for your > Omnibus machines :-). 8E cabling is horrible. I helped maintain a large TSS/8 configuration (RK8E,TC08,RF08,PC08, lots of 8655's in an expander box) and a similar OS/8 system w/o the expander box, and those heavy shielded BC08s made working on the CPU a nightmare. As you are aware, there is neither cable strain relief nor card guides in those machines. It wasn't uncommon to see an Omnibus card bent 1/4" back because of the cable strain.

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Duplicate mails in cc mailing list.

by laurens＠daemon.be

Hey Jim, I just noticed this was sent to cctalk@, apologies if this is off-topic. > Are you using MS Outlook? No, Thunderbird. > Are you using filters to move it to a special folder? Yes. I'm also subscribed to other mailing lists, but I don't have that problem there. They have the same sort of filters though. > Do you have two rules? Yes, one for cctalk and one for cctech. > That can cause the symptoms you describe. > > Laurens Vets wrote: >> Hi, >> Is it normal that I'm receiving _every_ message on the Classic >> Computer mailing list twice? >> I'm subscribed to several mailing lists and only the Classic Computer >> one has this... Laurens -- Laurens Vets http://www.cilinder.be http://www.cilinder.be/syllable

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Documentation

by aek＠bitsavers.org

> On the other hand, anyone who actually owns the relevant > equipment would probably like to have original documentation. As I mentioned the the post to you, if someone has the gear, they are welcome to the paper copy after it has been scanned. My concern is with getting the material digitized.

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BBM manuals - new home found.

by dm561＠torfree.net

Looks like the Burroughs manuals have a new home, but scans will probably be available eventually. Thanks to everyone who replied. mike

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Burroughs manuals

by dm561＠torfree.net

Some BBM Medium Systems (B-3500/4700) manuals heading for the dumpster; anybody want 'em enough to pay postage? 1058062 4/73 Fortran Reference Manual ~200pp 1067527 2/74 BASIC Reference Manual ~200pp 1054905 9/71 BASIC and CANDE Reference Manual ~50pp 1054772 10/73 System Software Operational Guide (CP14, CP40, MCP1 & MCP2) ~400pp PTCOPY Operating Guide 10/73 (Printout only) (B-3500/4700 PPT Utility) INSTR5 Misc Utilities (Printout only): CDEDIT, LIBBLD, SYCOPY, etc.

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More BBM Manuals (Small systems)

by dm561＠torfree.net

Some more manuals for anyone willing to pay postage (from Toronto): 1070737 2/76 DC140/L8000/TC1700/TC3500 SL5 Basic Assembler (Also applies to other L & TC models) 1085966 6/75 DC/L/TC System S/W vol 2 - Cassette Routines 1118387 7/80 TP410/420 Microdisk Module Reference Manual 2009379 10/75 L/TC Cassette handler for COBOL programs 1090909 8/80 CMS DataComm Subsystem (B80/800 etc.) 2010831 2/77 B80 Operator Training Course 1/80 B90 CMS Operations Student Materials 1126851 1/80 B91 Operator's Manual 2012712 2/79 ARCS Reference Manuals L/TC Report Writer, CMS Reporter Overview, Misc L/TC/B8 stuff 2015228 6/80 B80/1800/1900 CMS Operation Guide (System Software) 1100757 10/80 CMS Reporter/Domain Dictionary Module User's Manual

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