I'm currently restoring a pdp-15:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2033045&id=1528659644&l=5d2b00be93
This one will need a fair bit of cosmetic restoration; there's enough surface rust on some of the panels to make a respray a good idea. Question: does anyone have any idea how to reproduce the rough / textured / 'spattered' appearance that DEC gave their cabinet paintwork? How was it done in the factory? See the last image in the album to see what I mean.
Thanks!
Mike
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Hi:
Sorry for the confusing prior posts, here is the chart of Compaq Portable
III drives in a legible form
Portable III Hard Drives
Min Compaq Conner
Size Type Interleave Integrated ROM Spare Part No Model No
20MB 2 1:01 Y K Not known
20MB 2 3:01 Y K 107357-001
40MB 17 3:01 Y K 110358-001
40MB 224 1:01 Y R.2 Not known
40MB 43 1:01 Y F 114106-001
84MB 27 1:01 Y K Not known
100MB 45 1:01 Y K 142365-0011
120MB 45 1:01 Y K 161832-0012
Extracted from http://oldcomputers.net/compaqiii.pdf ?and other sources
Any help in filling in the Conner Model Number column would be appreciated.
Tom Gardner
Hui folks,
I just realized that I've no docs for my pdp11/20 :-(
(11/45 and 11/34 CPU docs are also missing...!)
I have so many DEC docs.. But not for KA11..! If anyone has a manual set
he doesn't need - PLEASE take about giving it away. I probably have
interesting stuff to trade in. This applies to 11/45 and 11/34 as well.
With decreasing urgency..
Best wishes,
Philipp
Hi:
I'm a newbie to the group and a long time volunteer at the Computer History
Museum, Mt View CA. We'd like to know the models of Conner HDDs shipped in
the Compaq Portable IIIs. This is of interest because Conner, due to its
Compaq relationship was at one time the fastest growing company in the
history of commerce and because IDE interface introduced by Conner went on
to dominate the market.
The following is a list of the known capacity and Compaq PNs for the Conner
HDDs shipped by Compaq - what we are trying to do is fill in the Conner
column. The Conner model numbers should have the form of CP340, CP341,
CP342, CP3102, etc.
Portable III Hard Drives
Size
Type
Inter-leave
Integrated
Min ROM
Spare Part No
Conner Model No
20MB
2
1:01
Y
K
Not known
20MB
2
3:01
Y
K
107357-001
40MB
17
3:01
Y
K
110358-001
40MB3
224
1:01
Y
R.2
Not known
40MB3
43
1:01
Y
F
114106-001
84MB3
27
1:01
Y
K
Not known
100MB3
45
1:01
Y
K
142365-0011
120MB3,5
45
1:01
Y
K
161832-0012
1 Except Europe.
2 Europe only.
3 Requires MS-DOS 3.2 or later.
4 Drive type 17 if ROM earlier than R.2 is used.
5 Formats to 100 MB.
Extracted from http://oldcomputers.net/compaqiii.pdf and other sources
Just the Conner model number would be good, but I would appreciate as much
information as u can provide, such as the corresponding Compaq part number
(if marked), a photo of the Conner technical data plate, and some
information on the date of manufacture of the drive and system (such as
photos of pcbs showing date lot codes).
Tom Gardner
Hi:
I'm a newbie to the group and a long time volunteer at the Computer History
Museum, Mt View CA. We'd like to know the models of Conner HDDs shipped in
the Compaq Portable IIIs. The Conner model numbers should have the form of
CP340, CP341, CP342, CP3102, etc. The following is a list of the known
capacity and Compaq PNs for the Conner HDDs shipped by Compaq:
Portable III Hard Drives
Size
Type
Inter-leave
Integrated
Min ROM
Spare Part No
20MB
2
1:01
Y
K
Not known
20MB
2
3:01
Y
K
107357-001
40MB
17
3:01
Y
K
110358-001
40MB3
224
1:01
Y
R.2
Not known
40MB3
43
1:01
Y
F
114106-001
84MB3
27
1:01
Y
K
Not known
100MB3
45
1:01
Y
K
142365-0011
120MB3,5
45
1:01
Y
K
161832-0012
1 Except Europe.
2 Europe only.
3 Requires MS-DOS 3.2 or later.
4 Drive type 17 if ROM earlier than R.2 is used.
5 Formats to 100 MB.
Extracted from http://oldcomputers.net/compaqiii.pdf and other sources
Just the Conner model number would be good, but I would appreciate as much
information as u can provide, such as the corresponding Compaq part number
(if marked), a photo of the Conner technical data plate, and some
information on the date of manufacture of the drive and system (such as
photos of pcbs showing date lot codes).
Tom Gardner
Does anyone have a PDP 14? Or has anyone ever seen one out in the "wild"?
If so, please contact me directly ;)
Thanks!
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My ICT 1301 (built 1962) has a sort of sand finish, a bit like very
fine wood chip wallpaper. On the underside of one of the top covers
they missed some of the top coat and I can see the texture was in a
primer, which barely covers the metal. In the next couple of years I
am going to have to respray some areas where the covers have been
scratched, another where I've spot welded some changes and one where
the roof leaked and the covers have rusted through. Good job I'm also
a classic car restorer, but I've never come across sand texture paint
on a car, not even on my Land Rover recovery truck. If anyone happens
to know anything about sand finish, I'd love to know.
See http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/09/29/193234/A-Geek-Funeral for links
to some nice pictures.
Slashdot sez: "We've recently talked about a geek wedding, and now reader
Sam_In_The_Hills writes in with news of his brother's geek funeral. "
"I've not seen this topic covered here before even though it's one that
will concern us all at some time: what to do with our corporeal remains
after we've left for that great data bank in the sky.
For my recently departed brother (long illness, don't smoke!), I thought
this nice SPARCstation would be a cool place to spend eternity. Yes, he's
really in there (after cremation). I kept the floppy drive cover but for
space reasons removed the floppy drive, hard drive, and most of the power
supply. I left behind the motherboard and power switch and plugs to keep
all openings covered. The case worked quite well at his memorial party.
His friends and family were able to leave their final good-byes on
post-notes. Anyone who wanted to keep their words private could just slip
their note into the case through the floppy slot. All notes will be sealed
in plastic and placed within the case. There has been one complication. His
daughters like the look of it so much they aren't now sure if they want to
bury him.
One more thing: the words on the plaque really do capture one of the last
things he ever said. Of course as kids we watched the show in its first run."
-----
350. [Computing] "Formal specifications yield correct programs." No. Formal
specifications yield PhD theses. They may also occasionally yield
programs as by-products, but no useful ones. --Ronald F. Guilmette
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WAN/LAN/Telcom Analyst, Tech Writer, MCP, CCNA, Registered Linux User 385531
JBG writes:
> [OCR'ing and indexing]
> Indexing the bitsavers.org material would be a nice first step.
Kinda magically, bitsavers documents are turning up in Google searches
Quite regularly. I know, it's not really magic, what Google is doing
Is OCR'ing (where not already done, I think that at least some of the
Bitsavers PDF's already are OCR'ed by Al or others) and putting it in their gigantic
Index. But the end result is magic.
Google is astonishing. I've had files that I thought I lost years ago,
But I start typing some search terms into Google and Shazam!, there's
That document I wrote back in 1992 but haven't seen since, living on
Somebody's mirror of my website from before I deleted it. That's astonishing.
I'm not saying we should count on Google to do all our work, but wow.
Tim.
As part of my personal collection, I've recently brought a SparcStation Voyager back from the dead (wellllll, it was coughin' up blood last night....). After replacing the display (bad backlight) and the NVRAM (bad battery), I learned the machine bore Debian Linux (and I didn't have the passwords). I dug out a Solaris 2.6 CD and ran the automated install, and everything works! - except that it won't run the windowing system. Early in the boot process it complains about not finding the driver for the framebuffer.
I verified that the framebuffer is seen on the Sbus (as a bwthree); that devalias showed a device called 'screen' looking to that framebuffer in the right place; that the framebuffer's slot was early in the Sbus probe; and since there wasn't a driver in /devices for bwthree, just on a chance I copied bwtwo to a file called bwthree.
I am coming to the conclusion I have one of two problems: either I really need a particular driver for this framebuffer, or there's something I'm seriously misunderstanding in the process. In the former case, I hope there is someone out there who could share a file; in the latter, I hope he/she will share enlightenment. :-) Thanks -- Ian
Hi guys,
As I said earlier in the week, the disc analyser hardware is now
working "mostly" -- as in, it'll talk to the PC, select a drive, spin
the motor and display a ton of nifty blinking lights as the disc rotates
(track0, write protect, index pulse, etc).
I've been using a Sony MPF520 drive for testing -- basically your
standard 3.5" half-height drive, jumperable for DS0 or DS1 and some form
of override for the automatic density selection. I know where the DS0
jumper is, and I've got a rough idea what the different density-select
options do.
What I'd like is an OEM manual or datasheet for it -- hopefully
including specs for the I/O drive capabilities, termination requirements
and so on. Does anyone have one kicking around (or even better, a
scanned copy)?
Lastly, I've managed to track down a fair selection of 3.5" drives
(I've got the MPF520, an MPF920 or two, and a few Samsung SFD321 series
drives), but a Teac FD-235 series drive would be nice to play with.
Alas, I haven't been able to find a source for these -- does anyone have
a working spare surplus-to-requirements? I'd prefer one of the earlier
versions with the massive jumper block; IIRC the newer ones have been
declawed somewhat.
I'm also after:
* Some form of 8-inch drive and a couple of discs. Possibly Shugart
SA400 or SA800 series or something similar? It doesn't have to look
pretty, it just has to work. Matching cabling would be nice too
(whatever-the-drive-has to Shugart-style 34-pin 0.1" IDC header ideally)
* a 40-track 5.25" drive. Single or double sided is fine, something
like the 40-track drives that were commonly used on BBC Micros. I seem
to recall the Cumana drives being pretty popular. Not as fussed about
this as I am the 8-inch drive (I can read 40tk discs with the 80tk drive
I have already, just that if I write any 40tk images, they're not going
to be readable on a 40tk drive).
I've had a quick look on "that auction site", but it seems at least some
of the sellers are on some form of illegal substance -- the prices are
nuts. ?150 for a bog-standard 80-track 1.2MB 5.25" PC drive (i.e.
exactly like the YE-Data drive I already have). Or ?59 for an MPF520
3.5" 80tk DSHD exactly like the one that's currently sitting on my desk.
"Used and refurbished" even (but still the yellow front suggests it's
probably not in great condition)...
Thanks,
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
Hi,
An IBM System/3 model 15B with 3340 diskdrive and 5203 printer
is available in the Netherlands.
The system is 220/380V & 50Hz and complete with technical manuals.
Anyone who is seriously interested in this system please
contact me offline (asap).
ibmsystem3_at_hccnet_dot_nl
Regards Henk.
model is xp 421 ch
Has memory install.
Small pizza box size (14"x14") not very heavy
Uses PS2 keyboard and mouse (not included)
Has15 pin VGA connector not sure if its standard pins outs
location Kent Wa. USA
- Jerry
Jerry Wright
g-wright at att.net
As was previously reported long-time RT-11 and PDP-11 fan,
Robert C. Peckham passed away recently. He left a significant
inventory of PDP-11 and related stuff in Glendale, California.
I just got off the phone with Alan Frisbie, who is helping
the widow sort out Robert's collection. Alan contacted
a number of folks regarding the collection, but so far
no one has responded to the need to purchase and/or pick
up this stuff.
Everything has to be moved out of Robert's office by
Thursday, October 1. Alan said that he will be renting
a storage unit temporarily in an attempt to save the
historically valuable items - unless someone picks it
up before then. It appears that much will be going into
the dumpster.
Please contact Alan ASAP if you are available to help.
His address and phone numbers follow the inventory
"The family is left with a mountain of medical and other
bills, they would appreciate reasonable offers for this
equipment. They would like to have everything go to good
homes, where it will be used and appreciated, rather than to
a dealer who will break it up and sell it."
Regards,
Lyle
---------- Inventory as of 27-Sep-2009 ----------
Two complete Q-Bus PDP-11 systems belonging to the late
Bob Peckham, plus lots of miscellaneous PDP-11 related parts
and supplies.
Note: The system disks were removed and destroyed by order of
his family and attorney to protect confidential client data.
System #1
Rack 1 DEC H967 (42" high) rack with H874-A power controller
Empty generic 5-1/4" Chassis
DEC 11/23-BC (BA11-S) Chassis containing:
M8192-YB PDP-11/73 CPU
M7551-AB MSV11 1MB memory
M8043 DMV11 DDCMP (DECnet) communications card
M8047 MXV11 multi-function card
M7516-YM DELQA Ethernet card
M9047 Dual-height bus grant card
M8029 RXV21 controller for RX02 floppy disks
Quad-height bus grant card
M9404-YA Q-Bus expansion card
DEC 11/23 (BA11-S) Expansion Chassis containing:
M9405-YA Q-Bus expansion card
M3104 DHV11 4-line serial multiplexer
Dual-height bus grant card
Dilog (model?) tape drive controller (for below drive)
Quad-height bus grant card
Andromeda ESDC disk controller for ESDI & floppy drives
Andromeda SCDC disk controller for SCSI & floppy drives
Quad-height bus grant card
Codar Technology model 102 Q-Timer & boot card
DEC 11/23-BC (BA11-S) Expansion Chassis containing:
Load Board (power resistors)
M3104 DHV11 4-line serial multiplexer
Fujitsu Power supply (not hooked up)
+5 @ 11A
+24 @ 5A
-12 @ 5A
5-1/4" generic chassis containing:
5-1/4" floppy disk drive (not hooked up)
Rack 2 DEC H967 (42" high) rack with Pulizzi power controller
RX02 dual 8" floppy disk subsystem
Cipher M891340-96-1050U 1600/3200 bpi tape drive
System #2
DEC "11V23" rack (31" high) w/power controller containing:
DEC "DPM23 (BA11-SA) Chassis containing:
M8637-EF 2MB memory
M8190-AE PDP-11/83 CPU board
M9047 Dual-width grant card
M8043 DLV11-J 4-port serial card
M9047 Dual-width grant card
M7516-YM DELQA Ethernet card
M9047 Dual-width grant card
Andromeda SCDC disk controller for SCSI & floppy drives
DEC BA11-N Chassis containing:
M8192 PDP-11/73 CPU
M7551-AC MSV11-QA memory
(three blank slots)
Andromeda ESDC disk controller for ESDI & floppy drives
(three blank slots)
Additional PDP-11 related equipment, documentation, and supplies:
Many DEC rack filler panels, both BA11-S style (metal
w/rounded top & bottom) and 10" black plastic
DEC BA42A SZ12X-MA SCSI/floppy expansion box
VT320 w/LK207-EE with KED/EDT keycaps
VT320 w/LK201 with KED/EDT keycaps
Two DEC LA120 DECwriter-III printing terminals
Three Diablo 630 Daisywheel printers (one New-In-Box)
Two Clary DT1500 Uninterruptable power systems (UPS)
Topaz Line-2 power conditioner
Two MultiTech Multi-modem MT1432-BA (300 - 14,400 bps)
MultiTech Multi-modem MT2834-BA
RT-11 v5.2/5.4 documentation set
RT-11 v5.6 documentation set
DEC M8029 RXV21 controller for RX02 floppy disks
Andromeda ESDC disk controller for ESDI & floppy drives
Two DEC M8637-E 2MB memory boards
Two DEC H9270 Backplanes
Dual RX02 drives in chassis (NIB -- New In Box!)
Three spare RX02 drives (in original boxes)
Two VT1XX-CE DECword conversion kits for VT100
Three VT1XX-FB Anti-Glare kits for VT100
Fujitsu M2263E full-height 5-1/4" hard disk drive
DEC RT-11 Distribution kits (v4.0 - v5.6)
DECUS RT-11 SIG tapes (9-track)
Many boxes of DEC-related hardware and supplies:
"Floppy media -- RX02, RX33, RX50"
"DEC Special parts & cables"
"DEC Flat cables"
"XXDP Listings from fiche"
"DEC Cables & cords"
"DEC MMJ Cables & fittings"
much more, too much to list
DEC Option Module list in 3" binder
Three 6' Wright Line cabinets with roll-up doors:
#1 Three tape hangers, two fixed shelves
#2 4 fixed shelves, 1 roll-out shelf, 1 drawer
#3 6 fixed shelves, 1 roll-out shelf
Three New-In-Box (on pallets) Stantron 19" racks, on
wheels. 21" panel height, 32" overall height, dark
wood-grain laminate tops.
Many 19" rack panels (plain & ventilated), shelves, rack
slides, etc. Most brand new.
Plus lots more PDP-11 Q-Bus chassis, backplanes, power supplies,
and miscellaneous stuff in a large room we have not yet explored.
There are more boxes and two more Wright Line cabinets filled
with DEC stuff at Bob's house which we have not yet explored.
We also expect to find more disk drives and ???? when we open
his storage unit.
Feel free to contact me by e-mail, or telephone me at the below
numbers.
Sincerely,
Alan E. Frisbie
-- Flying Disk Systems, Inc. 323-256-2575 (office)
-- 4759 Round Top Drive 213-718-1635 (cellular)
-- Los Angeles, CA 90065
--
Lyle Bickley
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
Hi Jim,
I suppose 2 years are a lot of time :-) but I've bought a TRS-80 Model IV and it arrived to Spain with the CRT broken. I'm googling for some information about to buy a replacement one and I found your message:
Item #1
------------
For the past eight years I've been keeping a box that supposedly has a
B&W CRT in it; it was given to me by a retiring engineer and TRS-80
enthusiast. I finally opened the box and confirmed there is a CRT of
some kind it it, although whether or not it is for a trs-80 I haven't
checked.
I have no need for it; anybody willing to pay shipping on it can have
it. It is in great shape and in fact, might be unused. It looks to be
about 12" diagonal.
There are a lot of different markings on the tube, and I'm not sure
which is the most important; in fact, the layout of the markings is such
that I can't always tell what goes with what, but I'll try my best:
RCA Electron Tube
12VCLP4
Model No. 6
EIA 274
KTR131B
Elsewhere it says EIA 1240.
That's my CRT!!!! You don't already have it, have you? Do you know where to get a (cheap) one?
Thank you very much,,,,
Albert.
I saw a few systems on ebay. A common issue seems
to be bubbling in the monitor and faulty light
pens/CPU cards. Also 'several thousand dollars'
does seem a bit on the high side for a basic
8 bit rack in questionable state, although the
keyboards are nice :)
There are also the Fairlight QDC or MXP racks, which
seem a later system (some kind of digital recording/
mixing desk). Those are not too interesting to me,
8 bit digital playback is so much more fun.
Ian.
I have a few DEC items that might be of interest to people here:
RZ25-E hard drive
BCC14-10 cable
BCC05 cable
H8574-A SCSI terminator
I also have a Toshiba TXM3401E1 CD-ROM drive that I used to install
software on a Sun SPARCstation.
Of course, I'd like to sell this stuff for millions or at least trade
it for an Apple 1 but I'll consider all offers that don't involve
negative numbers!
Anyone interested in this stuff?
I'm looking for a reference disc for a 1991 vintage Research Machines Nimbus
PC-386. It is a very peculiar design with MCA slots from a riser, an MCA IBM
380 (80Mb) HDD that is connected to the mainboard with a right angle riser
and it has custom memory boards. The BIOS is by Chips & Technologies and is
dated 1989 v.5.1J
I have got a program called PSETUP (from Research Machines) that allows me
to configure the RAM, date and time, but it won't see the hard drive and I
suspect I need a newer version of the PSETUP program.
I'd quite like to get this working as a neighbour brought it over (she's
over 60) and she misses her card games!
I've tried the Reference Disks of IBM model 60 and 80, but they bomb out
saying they don't recognize the hardware.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cheers
Dave
I stumbled on this today. I thought anyone into old hardware and aerospace
relics would find this appealing:
http://ronvanderende.nl/?tag=hardware
- John
Anyone have a good replacement source for the rubber feet on a VT100? Mine
are turning to goo. They measure 3/4" square by 1/2" high. I found some
furniture feet that will do at my local hardware store but they're round,
brown and too short.
Thanks,
Jack
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Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:30:43 -0700
Groups: comp.sys.dec,alt.sys.pdp11,vmsnet.pdp-11
From: Alan Frisbie <Usenet02_REMOVE at Flying-Disk.com>
Subject: Re: Robert C. Peckham -- RIP -- PDP-11 Inventory
Re: <dr-dnUiDEtp2ajLXnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d at supernews.com>
Id: <4ABFAF53.3010305 at Flying-Disk.com>
========
Here is the preliminary inventory of PDP-11 and related stuff
>from the late Bob Peckham's office in Glendale, California (near
Burbank).
The office landlord has thrown us a curve, and wants us to have
everything out by October 1. That is only a few days away!
We originally thought we would have several weeks to clean it out.
As a result, we simply don't have time to pack and ship anything.
If you can come and pick it up before Thursday (Oct. 1), that would
be great. Otherwise, we will *attempt* to move it to a storage
unit and deal with it in a few weeks. Sadly, if we run out of
time or space, it will have to be dumped.
Because the family is left with a mountain of medical and other
bills, they would appreciate reasonable offers for this
equipment. They would like to have everything go to good
homes, where it will be used and appreciated, rather than to
a dealer who will break it up and sell it.
---------- Inventory as of 27-Sep-2009 ----------
Two complete Q-Bus PDP-11 systems belonging to the late
Bob Peckham, plus lots of miscellaneous PDP-11 related parts
and supplies.
Note: The system disks were removed and destroyed by order of
his family and attorney to protect confidential client data.
System #1
Rack 1 DEC H967 (42" high) rack with H874-A power controller
Empty generic 5-1/4" Chassis
DEC 11/23-BC (BA11-S) Chassis containing:
M8192-YB PDP-11/73 CPU
M7551-AB MSV11 1MB memory
M8043 DMV11 DDCMP (DECnet) communications card
M8047 MXV11 multi-function card
M7516-YM DELQA Ethernet card
M9047 Dual-height bus grant card
M8029 RXV21 controller for RX02 floppy disks
Quad-height bus grant card
M9404-YA Q-Bus expansion card
DEC 11/23 (BA11-S) Expansion Chassis containing:
M9405-YA Q-Bus expansion card
M3104 DHV11 4-line serial multiplexer
Dual-height bus grant card
Dilog (model?) tape drive controller (for below drive)
Quad-height bus grant card
Andromeda ESDC disk controller for ESDI & floppy drives
Andromeda SCDC disk controller for SCSI & floppy drives
Quad-height bus grant card
Codar Technology model 102 Q-Timer & boot card
DEC 11/23-BC (BA11-S) Expansion Chassis containing:
Load Board (power resistors)
M3104 DHV11 4-line serial multiplexer
Fujitsu Power supply (not hooked up)
+5 @ 11A
+24 @ 5A
-12 @ 5A
5-1/4" generic chassis containing:
5-1/4" floppy disk drive (not hooked up)
Rack 2 DEC H967 (42" high) rack with Pulizzi power controller
RX02 dual 8" floppy disk subsystem
Cipher M891340-96-1050U 1600/3200 bpi tape drive
System #2
DEC "11V23" rack (31" high) w/power controller containing:
DEC "DPM23 (BA11-SA) Chassis containing:
M8637-EF 2MB memory
M8190-AE PDP-11/83 CPU board
M9047 Dual-width grant card
M8043 DLV11-J 4-port serial card
M9047 Dual-width grant card
M7516-YM DELQA Ethernet card
M9047 Dual-width grant card
Andromeda SCDC disk controller for SCSI & floppy drives
DEC BA11-N Chassis containing:
M8192 PDP-11/73 CPU
M7551-AC MSV11-QA memory
(three blank slots)
Andromeda ESDC disk controller for ESDI & floppy drives
(three blank slots)
Additional PDP-11 related equipment, documentation, and supplies:
Many DEC rack filler panels, both BA11-S style (metal
w/rounded top & bottom) and 10" black plastic
DEC BA42A SZ12X-MA SCSI/floppy expansion box
VT320 w/LK207-EE with KED/EDT keycaps
VT320 w/LK201 with KED/EDT keycaps
Two DEC LA120 DECwriter-III printing terminals
Three Diablo 630 Daisywheel printers (one New-In-Box)
Two Clary DT1500 Uninterruptable power systems (UPS)
Topaz Line-2 power conditioner
Two MultiTech Multi-modem MT1432-BA (300 - 14,400 bps)
MultiTech Multi-modem MT2834-BA
RT-11 v5.2/5.4 documentation set
RT-11 v5.6 documentation set
DEC M8029 RXV21 controller for RX02 floppy disks
Andromeda ESDC disk controller for ESDI & floppy drives
Two DEC M8637-E 2MB memory boards
Two DEC H9270 Backplanes
Dual RX02 drives in chassis (NIB -- New In Box!)
Three spare RX02 drives (in original boxes)
Two VT1XX-CE DECword conversion kits for VT100
Three VT1XX-FB Anti-Glare kits for VT100
Fujitsu M2263E full-height 5-1/4" hard disk drive
DEC RT-11 Distribution kits (v4.0 - v5.6)
DECUS RT-11 SIG tapes (9-track)
Many boxes of DEC-related hardware and supplies:
"Floppy media -- RX02, RX33, RX50"
"DEC Special parts & cables"
"DEC Flat cables"
"XXDP Listings from fiche"
"DEC Cables & cords"
"DEC MMJ Cables & fittings"
much more, too much to list
DEC Option Module list in 3" binder
Three 6' Wright Line cabinets with roll-up doors:
#1 Three tape hangers, two fixed shelves
#2 4 fixed shelves, 1 roll-out shelf, 1 drawer
#3 6 fixed shelves, 1 roll-out shelf
Three New-In-Box (on pallets) Stantron 19" racks, on
wheels. 21" panel height, 32" overall height, dark
wood-grain laminate tops.
Many 19" rack panels (plain & ventilated), shelves, rack
slides, etc. Most brand new.
Plus lots more PDP-11 Q-Bus chassis, backplanes, power supplies,
and miscellaneous stuff in a large room we have not yet explored.
There are more boxes and two more Wright Line cabinets filled
with DEC stuff at Bob's house which we have not yet explored.
We also expect to find more disk drives and ???? when we open
his storage unit.
Feel free to contact me at the above address (after removing
"_REMOVE"), or telephone me at the below numbers.
Sincerely,
Alan E. Frisbie
-- Flying Disk Systems, Inc. 323-256-2575 (office)
-- 4759 Round Top Drive 213-718-1635 (cellular)
-- Los Angeles, CA 90065
As was previously reported long-time RT-11 and PDP-11 fan,
Robert C. Peckham passed away recently. He left a significant
inventory of PDP-11 and related stuff in Glendale, California.
I just got off the phone with Alan Frisbie, who is helping
the widow sort out Robert's collection. Alan contacted
a number of folks regarding the collection, but so far
no one has responded to the need to purchase and/or pick
up this stuff.
Everything has to be moved out of Robert's office by
Thursday, October 1. Alan said that he will be renting
a storage unit temporarily in an attempt to save the
historically valuable items - unless someone picks it
up before then. It appears that much will be going into
the dumpster.
Please contact Alan ASAP if you are available to help.
His address and phone numbers follow the inventory
"The family is left with a mountain of medical and other
bills, they would appreciate reasonable offers for this
equipment. They would like to have everything go to good
homes, where it will be used and appreciated, rather than to
a dealer who will break it up and sell it."
Regards,
Lyle
---------- Inventory as of 27-Sep-2009 ----------
Two complete Q-Bus PDP-11 systems belonging to the late
Bob Peckham, plus lots of miscellaneous PDP-11 related parts
and supplies.
Note: The system disks were removed and destroyed by order of
his family and attorney to protect confidential client data.
System #1
Rack 1 DEC H967 (42" high) rack with H874-A power controller
Empty generic 5-1/4" Chassis
DEC 11/23-BC (BA11-S) Chassis containing:
M8192-YB PDP-11/73 CPU
M7551-AB MSV11 1MB memory
M8043 DMV11 DDCMP (DECnet) communications card
M8047 MXV11 multi-function card
M7516-YM DELQA Ethernet card
M9047 Dual-height bus grant card
M8029 RXV21 controller for RX02 floppy disks
Quad-height bus grant card
M9404-YA Q-Bus expansion card
DEC 11/23 (BA11-S) Expansion Chassis containing:
M9405-YA Q-Bus expansion card
M3104 DHV11 4-line serial multiplexer
Dual-height bus grant card
Dilog (model?) tape drive controller (for below drive)
Quad-height bus grant card
Andromeda ESDC disk controller for ESDI & floppy drives
Andromeda SCDC disk controller for SCSI & floppy drives
Quad-height bus grant card
Codar Technology model 102 Q-Timer & boot card
DEC 11/23-BC (BA11-S) Expansion Chassis containing:
Load Board (power resistors)
M3104 DHV11 4-line serial multiplexer
Fujitsu Power supply (not hooked up)
+5 @ 11A
+24 @ 5A
-12 @ 5A
5-1/4" generic chassis containing:
5-1/4" floppy disk drive (not hooked up)
Rack 2 DEC H967 (42" high) rack with Pulizzi power controller
RX02 dual 8" floppy disk subsystem
Cipher M891340-96-1050U 1600/3200 bpi tape drive
System #2
DEC "11V23" rack (31" high) w/power controller containing:
DEC "DPM23 (BA11-SA) Chassis containing:
M8637-EF 2MB memory
M8190-AE PDP-11/83 CPU board
M9047 Dual-width grant card
M8043 DLV11-J 4-port serial card
M9047 Dual-width grant card
M7516-YM DELQA Ethernet card
M9047 Dual-width grant card
Andromeda SCDC disk controller for SCSI & floppy drives
DEC BA11-N Chassis containing:
M8192 PDP-11/73 CPU
M7551-AC MSV11-QA memory
(three blank slots)
Andromeda ESDC disk controller for ESDI & floppy drives
(three blank slots)
Additional PDP-11 related equipment, documentation, and supplies:
Many DEC rack filler panels, both BA11-S style (metal
w/rounded top & bottom) and 10" black plastic
DEC BA42A SZ12X-MA SCSI/floppy expansion box
VT320 w/LK207-EE with KED/EDT keycaps
VT320 w/LK201 with KED/EDT keycaps
Two DEC LA120 DECwriter-III printing terminals
Three Diablo 630 Daisywheel printers (one New-In-Box)
Two Clary DT1500 Uninterruptable power systems (UPS)
Topaz Line-2 power conditioner
Two MultiTech Multi-modem MT1432-BA (300 - 14,400 bps)
MultiTech Multi-modem MT2834-BA
RT-11 v5.2/5.4 documentation set
RT-11 v5.6 documentation set
DEC M8029 RXV21 controller for RX02 floppy disks
Andromeda ESDC disk controller for ESDI & floppy drives
Two DEC M8637-E 2MB memory boards
Two DEC H9270 Backplanes
Dual RX02 drives in chassis (NIB -- New In Box!)
Three spare RX02 drives (in original boxes)
Two VT1XX-CE DECword conversion kits for VT100
Three VT1XX-FB Anti-Glare kits for VT100
Fujitsu M2263E full-height 5-1/4" hard disk drive
DEC RT-11 Distribution kits (v4.0 - v5.6)
DECUS RT-11 SIG tapes (9-track)
Many boxes of DEC-related hardware and supplies:
"Floppy media -- RX02, RX33, RX50"
"DEC Special parts & cables"
"DEC Flat cables"
"XXDP Listings from fiche"
"DEC Cables & cords"
"DEC MMJ Cables & fittings"
much more, too much to list
DEC Option Module list in 3" binder
Three 6' Wright Line cabinets with roll-up doors:
#1 Three tape hangers, two fixed shelves
#2 4 fixed shelves, 1 roll-out shelf, 1 drawer
#3 6 fixed shelves, 1 roll-out shelf
Three New-In-Box (on pallets) Stantron 19" racks, on
wheels. 21" panel height, 32" overall height, dark
wood-grain laminate tops.
Many 19" rack panels (plain & ventilated), shelves, rack
slides, etc. Most brand new.
Plus lots more PDP-11 Q-Bus chassis, backplanes, power supplies,
and miscellaneous stuff in a large room we have not yet explored.
There are more boxes and two more Wright Line cabinets filled
with DEC stuff at Bob's house which we have not yet explored.
We also expect to find more disk drives and ???? when we open
his storage unit.
Feel free to contact me by e-mail, or telephone me at the below
numbers.
Sincerely,
Alan E. Frisbie
-- Flying Disk Systems, Inc. 323-256-2575 (office)
-- 4759 Round Top Drive 213-718-1635 (cellular)
-- Los Angeles, CA 90065
--
Lyle Bickley
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
On the TV show "How it's made" there was a recent episode regarding player piano rolls. I was a little surprised they were still being made, but anyway there it was, a beautiful Apple ][ with 2 floppy drives, still earning it's keep. One Apple was being used with some kind of visual roll editor to touch up the hole layout, another was running the "Perforator Control Program V070L4" to control the punches making the rolls. That'd look good on the resume.
Regards, Jim
Hi! I recently came across a Bytek Erasogram-40 EPROM programmer and eraser
combination. It uses a PC board for a controller.
Is anyone familiar with this device and/or have the PC software for it?
Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
Please contact Peter directly.
--- On Sun, 9/27/09, Peter Smode <psmode at KITSNET.VANCOUVER.BC.CA> wrote:
> From: Peter Smode <psmode at KITSNET.VANCOUVER.BC.CA>
> Subject: VAXstation going to the great VMScluster in the sky
> To: VMS-SIG at LISTSERV.ENCOMPASSUS.ORG
> Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 11:29 AM
>
>
>
>
>
> VAXstation going to the great VMScluster in the
> sky
>
>
>
>
> My old VAXstation
> is on its way to the recycling center despite the fact that it works just
> fine (booted
> today). I virtualized some
> time ago and no longer need the physical system. I don?t want it,
> but I figured
> I?d post here just in case somebody really wants
> such an old beast ? you never know.
>
>
>
> It is a VAXstation
> 3100 M38 with an internal 2GB SCSI disk. I
> have the keyboard (plus spare), the hockey puck mouse, and the external SCSI cable that allows for connectivity to external boxes with a Centronix
> connector. I have
> a
> Mitsubishi HL6605ATK monitor to go with it; that?s an honest 16 inch monitor that does both sync on green and
> external sync. The system has always failed a couple of the
> POSTs, but I?ve always associated those with looking for a
> WAN communications option. System comes without licenses, hardware only, as-is.
>
>
>
> I am in the Dallas TX area; I am figuring that
> local pickup is really the only way to go
> here. Please e-mail me if interested.
>
>
>
> -- Peter
>
> (psmode at kitsnet.vancouver.bc.ca)
>
>
> --
>
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It's alive, Igor! ALIVE! *ALIVE!*
*cue dramatic thunder and lightning*
OK, that's enough of that. I'm sure most of you know about my pet
project -- the homebrew disc analyser. I finally got off my lazy
backside this weekend and finished off the "pre-prototype" hardware,
leaving me with a rather empty parts box, one less piece of FR4
pad-board, and a ton of mess on the workbench.
It's talking to the ICD2 (so I can program the PIC), the connection to
the FPGA board seems to work (i.e. I can send bytes to the PIC across
the USB bus, then they're displayed in hex on the FPGA board's 7-seg and
binary LED displays). The .plan at the moment is roughly as follows :-
1. Make it switch the drive motor on and off, and select the drive
2. Make the drive head step in and out to arbitrary tracks, seek to
track 0, play music, etc.
3. Get the FPGA to measure the time between two flux transitions
(emulated by a signal generator.. 74LS04, resistor, capacitor) and
display the result on the hex display / store into RAM
After that it's basically a case of adding the logic to allow the RAM to
be read/written over USB, then adding the synchronisation circuitry. I
seem to recall my digital-PLL data separator working "pretty OK" with a
PC disc, and the index pulse detector definitely works (I've tested it).
I'll put the schematics online if anyone wants to take a look (it's
basically an Altera DE1 development board, a couple of connectors, some
level shifters and a bit of 74LS). The board I've built is basically a
voltage adapter for the floppy drive, oscillator (40MHz), and a USB
interface -- the FPGA board handles (almost) everything else.
At this point, I don't have much in the way of "test data", i.e. discs
that aren't in PC format. I think I've got a few Acorn DFS and ADFS
discs stashed away, but it'd be nice to get hold of some more unusual
formats as well (Amiga MFM, Commodore 1541 GCR, and maybe Apple 400K
Macintosh would be nice starting points)...
Dare I ask if anyone has any spare floppy discs they want rid of?
3.5in, 5.25in, I'm not picky, as long as there's something on them,
though it would be useful if there's a matching .DSK, .ADF, etc. disc
image to go with the disc(s).
Cheers,
--
Phil.
classiccmp at philpem.me.uk
http://www.philpem.me.uk/
Any Mac programmers out there have a copy of GUSI *1*? GUSI 2 is available
easily from sourceforge but it does not like the code I'm trying to link it
to (and I know this code works with 1).
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Hi All,
I'm looking for a copy of the old Microport SYSV/AT to run on a Compaq
Portable III I've got. I have all the documentation, but need 5.25"
floppy images.
Anybody have a copy they'd be willing to part with? I'm happy to trade
for other older x86 type UNIX systems. I have several on 3.5" floppy
and CDROM.
Thanks,
Tom
Folks,
I'd appreciate some thoughts in general, and on some specific cases, on using 50Hz DEC equipment on 60Hz power, since I've started processsing and restoring a large quantity of DEC equipment I've brought over from my UK storage to the USA:
1. Thinking about old DEC logic power supplies in general (pdp-8, -11, -12, -15 etc), is there liable to be any problem with using equipment sold in 50Hz countries on US 60Hz supplies? Obviously output voltages would be checked as a matter of course anyway!
Equipment which uses motors is, I would have thought, liable to be more of a problem, for instance:
2. Tapes. Would 9-track (e.g. TU45, TU16 etc.) tapes be likely to be a problem? It occurs to me the transport speed might be a little off...
3. DECtapes (& LINCtapes) : I would imagine they would be less of a problem; they're self-clocking and practically indestructible - you can almost read a DECtape with a toothbrush, some tinfoil, and a set of bicycle pedals! Thoughts?
4. Disks. Biggest problem I would imagine. RK05s I know have different motor pulleys - they're stamped 50Hz or 60Hz. I would imagine running a 50Hz unit on 60Hz wouldn't work, the heads would never load because it would never be detected going at the correct speed. And even if they did load there might be air bearing issues due to incorrect speed. I have around 7 or 8 50Hz RK05s, but only 3 60Hz, so... does anyone have any spare 60Hz RK05 pulleys, or motors with 60Hz pulleys attached? What about RL and RX drives? Similar problems?
Many thanks for any advice
Mike
http://www.corestore.org
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Yesterday, rooting around my local scrapper I came across several
Analogic AP509 Array Processors which had been rebadged by HP. They
evidently came out of a trashed IC test system which was missing the
computer. Anyone have any information on these beasts or interest
before they hit the parts bin?
CRC
You probably forgot the hyphen. old-computers.com works fine, but oldcomputers.com is a squatting page
Nico
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: James Carter <james at jfc.org.uk>
Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:36:26 +0100
>i'm sure i'm not the only one who regularly visits this site. it seems
>to have disappeared with a domain-squatting page in its place. does
>anyone know what's happened?
>
>--
> James F. Carter www.jfc.org.ukwww.podquiz.comwww.starringthecomputer.com
>
>
This core plane appears to be from a Univac Scientific computer,
i.e., the 1103A, made from 1956 to ca. 1960. It's a dead ringer
for a photo in a 1958 brochure on the machine. The 1103A was
an upgrade to the orginal 1103 from 1953, replacing the Williams
tube memory with core among other improvements.
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i'm sure i'm not the only one who regularly visits this site. it seems
to have disappeared with a domain-squatting page in its place. does
anyone know what's happened?
--
James F. Carter www.jfc.org.ukwww.podquiz.comwww.starringthecomputer.com
This is one of those things that has bugged me for a while - figured I'd see if anyone else noticed. Many documents on Bitsavers are missing the blank pages.
Now, this isn't much of an issue if you are just reading them on a computer, but they cause havoc when you go to print them out. Call me a tree-killer, but when I'm working on a complicated machine, and find the manual on Bitsavers, I like to print it out, three-hole punch it, and put it in a binder - this way I can work from it, add notes to it, etc, as I restore/repair a device.
With blank pages (i.e. the backs of the last page of a section) missing, when you print double-sided, it throws off the page layout. Sometimes this results in a two-page diagram being printed on the front and back of a single sheet of paper. Or the exploded diagram and the parts list on opposite sides of a page.
So, my solution is to go through the document ahead of time on the computer, page by page, and write down the page ranges that are contiguous, and printing odd numbers of pages together to recreate the blank backs at the end of the section. For example, for the KSR35 Teletype Tech manual, volume 1:
1-3 (single sided), 4-14, 15-26, 27 (reduce), 28-66, 67-113, 114-122, 123-157, 158-164, 165-183, 184-192, 193-217.
Maybe this is just me being a bit obsessive - but I'm sure someone else has run into this. I'm just wondering - were these blank pages removed intentionally for some reason? Did the scanning software automatically ignore them? Or am I the only vintage computer geek out there who owns a massive duplexing laser printer?
-Ian
Maybe you all know about PhotoFacts but this was new to me. I was spending some time at the library yesterday and noticed a huge wall of (moslty black) binders labelled PhotoFact. I guess they've been there all along but I'd never really looked. They are schematics and service info for electronic products. Mostly radios and TV's it looks like. I got the index from the reference desk and looked up the oldest electronic device I have, an Emerson portable tube radio model 558. Sure enough the schematic and some service information was there. I believe it's from 1947. At the other end of the binders the newest thing I found was from 2006.
I wondered if there were any computer manuals in there. I think there are, I found one for a Compaq portable and some Gateway system, there are also some Zenith data systems items. The binders make it hard to get the pages flat on the copier, but it looks like the pages could be removed and replaced. Anyway $0.60 for copying the four pages was a lot cheaper than the twenty bucks some internet guy wants for that manual, and that one's a copy too.
When I have more time, I'll go back and look further. Regards, Jim
I have an RX02 drive currently mounted in an external enclosure that I'd
like to mount in my 11/40's rack. Anyone have a set of rails for these?
Thanks!
Josh
Thanks to all those who have responded on 50Hz vs. 60Hz
So to summarise:
1. Most PSUs are unlikely to present a problem, especially since we're going from lower to higher frequency.
2. Tape drives are likely to run just fine.
3. Disk drives will be as expected (pulley issues) for older drives, but RL should work??
4. The big 'gotcha' appears to be ferroresonant PSUs. I knew those would be a problem, but I must admit I didn't know DEC used them. OK, so we've been told the RX01/02 is ferroresonant. Think carefully folks - are there any other DEC PSUs that use ferroresonant transformers? I'm thinking mostly about logic PSUs from early pdp-8/12/15 to later 11s - 11/34, 11/73, pdp-8a etc, but any data on peripherals which used ferroresonants would also be welcome!
Thanks
Mike
http://www.corestore.org
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Title says it all... I'm in need of a few (up to 10) DEC H960 racks in decent (rust-free) shape. Anyone who can help, please reply!
Failing that I'll need to get out the sandblaster and the spraygun!
Mike
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Brian writes:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-IBM-Personal-Computer-AT-Model-5170-System_W0QQ…
> It looks like a 5170 case wrapped in even more metal.
Sometimes this is for tempest compliance although I would think that if a 5170 was to be made tempest compliant, you'd need some kind of baffle over the front. And the tempest people were always real big on putting CRT's in metal cans too.
Tim.
Picked up an RK8E along with an interesting PDP-8/e system (well,
interesting in that it says "digital equipment international ltd, galway
ireland" on the front panel, which is something I've not seen before on
a DEC product. Otherwise it's your standard 8/e...)
The RK8E's missing the top connector blocks and I don't have any spares
of these; are these unobtanium? Anyone have any to spare, or have
suggestions on how best to make my own?
Thanks,
Josh
I have an extra serial link for the Psion Series 3. It's in original
packaging with manuals, software, and hardware. Someone make me an
offer. Located in NJ, USA.
Hello all,
I've just plugged in a SPARCClassic to 240 V 50 Hz AC (brought it with
me from a 60 Hz country).
Despite the power supply being rated for this, it won't start in the
traditional sense of the word. The speaker makes a clicking noise
when I press the power button and until I turn it off.
Inside the case, everything appears intact...
Thanks,
- Alex
Hi, All,
I have some 2.5" SCSI drives from Thinkpads - Toshiba MK2428FB, IBM
DVAS-2810, and an IBM DPRS-21215. I don't think they have the same
pin arrangement as older 68K-era Mac laptops that take SCSI drives
(though I could be mistaken on that). Was there more than one
standard pinout in the sub-1GB 2.5" SCSI drive world?
Thanks for any comments, observations, and pointers.
-ethan
As has been griped about in the past, I went on an all out google search for
a 5.25" drive married to a USB adapter. Thought I almost had one when I saw
a picture on the Teac website of what turned out to be a USB to IDE adapter
they sell. I contacted them anyway and inquired about hacking their 3.5"
USB drive. Their reply:
Hello Robert,
Unfortunately, TEAC did not make an adapter to convert a standard 5.25"
floppy drive to USB interface. There is no solution that we can offer you.
The USB 3.5" floppy drives can not be dismantled as these don't have a USB
adapter, instead the USB chip is already built-in its main PCBA. Therefore,
there is no single part that can be used to convert a 5.25" drive into a USB
interface drive.
You may want to search online; perhaps another company offers a conversion
kit for a 5.25" drive.
Regretfully,
Mario Gomez
Customer Support Manager
Data Storage Prod. Division
TEAC America, Inc.
Ah, well. Looks like if it can happen at all, it would have to be
home-brewed.
Bob Stek
Saver of Lost Sols
In a message dated 9/21/2009 11:23:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
g-wright at att.net writes:
>> Hi, All,
>>
>> I have some 2.5" SCSI drives from Thinkpads - Toshiba MK2428FB, IBM
>> DVAS-2810, and an IBM DPRS-21215. I don't think they have the same
>> pin arrangement as older 68K-era Mac laptops that take SCSI drives
>> (though I could be mistaken on that). Was there more than one
>> standard pinout in the sub-1GB 2.5" SCSI drive world?
>>
>> Thanks for any comments, observations, and pointers.
>>
>> -ethan
>Where are the ThinkPads, I know of only the Power PC
>models that had SCSI. (8xx models) Getting very rare
>these days. I'm always looking for these
The thinkpad 700 and maybe the 720 used ESDI drives. All other models
with maybe some early exceptions all used IDE.
On 9/22/09, Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ethan Dicks wrote:
>> On 9/22/09, Sridhar Ayengar <ploopster at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Zane H. Healy wrote:
>>>> Wow, there is something I never knew. There were 2.5" ESDI HD's?!?! I
>>>> didn't even know there were any smaller than 5.25".
>>> Come to think of it, didn't the PS/2 Model 70 have a 3.5" ESDI?
>>
>> That sounds familiar. The PS/2 Model 30 (not 286) came with a 3.5"
>> ESDI drive - with a full-width edge connector.
>>
> The full width edge connector drive was the one on the Mod 70, wasn't
> it? I thought the Mod 30-8086 came with only two floppy drives? Wasn't
> the Mod 30 hard drive option a 3rd party jobbie?
This was 100% Big Blue. It was the only PC in a DEC shop, bought by
and for the accountants who needed to run DOS-based accounts
receivables and payroll apps.
I'm willing to accept that it's some bizzaro IDE or MCA bus-extension
drive (it does *not* have the usual ESDI cabling arrangement that I'm
used to), but I was told at the time I was looking for an upgrade path
that it was an ESDI drive - perhaps it's some flavor of IDE drive with
an embedded ESDI controller, not an embedded MFM controller.
-ethan
Back in 1998 (actually more like from summer 1997 until summer 1998,
i.e., the 1997-98 school year), before I started Quasijarus Project,
I was searching the World high and low for a copy of the 4.3BSD tape
set. That was before PUPS got its momentum with getting the $100
"Ancient UNIX" license deal from SCO, and more importantly, getting
people interested in preserving and working with Original UNIX, and
at that time the entire world was basically in a conspiracy of
anathema against original Bell/Berkeley UNIX, everyone just wanted
it to stay buried in its grave and not come up.
Getting a copy of the 4.3BSD tape set seemed next to impossible.
www.berkeley.edu was shockingly silent about the fact that Berkeley
UNIX aka BSD, UC Berkeley's greatest accomplishment in all of its
history, ever existed, much less saying how to order a tape. Finally
I found a phone number and a couple of E-mail addresses for some
office at UCB that was apparently kept for sending out tapes after
CSRG itself was gutted. The office was basically a voice mailbox and
a couple of E-mail addresses, with the two people who were actually
supposed to get those E-mail and voice messages being away somewhere
in San Francisco and taking a few weeks to answer inquiries.
Finally they got back to me and told me to send a check for $2400 for
4.4BSD and $1000 for 4.3BSD. Ouch! And of course some murky business
about licenses.
At that time, however, I attended Case Western Reserve University (CWRU)
and had a semi-staff relationship with their computer science department.
I realised that the university must have had a UNIX source license from
back in The Days, and most probably had the actual 4.3BSD tapes at some
point as well, especially given that the old-timers told me that they
were indeed running 11/780s before. But again the conspiracy of anathema
was working: everyone had completely forgotten about it, and no one on
the entire campus even knew that the university had a UNIX source license
(and old-timers confirmed that indeed there was one).
When spring 1998 came around, PUPS was making its debut with the $100
license deal from SCO. I didn't care so much about license stuff, but
it meant a resurgence of interest in Original UNIX and a community of
people involved with it, something that was completely lacking only a
few months prior. I wanted access to the PUPS archive, and I wanted to
use the university's license rather than fork over $100 for a personal
one. The only issue was *finding* that license. Then I got a bright
idea: since the license agreement was between CWRU and AT&T, there must
have been copies of it on both sides. If CWRU had chosen to forget
about the license they once paid big money for, how about if I dig up a
copy of the license agreement from AT&T side? So I asked SCO's Dion
Johnson about it, and lo and behold, a few days later a copy of CWRU's
original UNIX license agreement shows up in my box in the computer science
department mail room! Warren Toomey got another copy and soon I got an
overseas fax from him with passwords for his PUPS Archive! Whoo-hoo!
But I still needed 4.3BSD. It wasn't in Warren's archive since they
were still PDP-only at that time, and me holding a copy of my school's
AT&T UNIX license agreement didn't help convince anyone I knew who
might have had 4.3BSD tapes to share them with me.
In late 1997 I got myself an office at CWRU, it was the CES department's
computer junkyard room. I was quite happy, a room full of classic
computers was the best office I could get. It was actually two rooms,
411 and 412. Only 411 was accessible from the hallway, the entrance to
412 was inside 411. Both rooms were filled with classic computer gear,
but 411 was a little less full and actually had some room for a desk and
was usable as an office. 412, on the other hand, was *completely* filled
with classic computer gear (mostly Sun 3) and it was difficult for a
person to make it through to the end of the room. At the very end of
room 412 (the end opposite the entrance door from 411) there was
something that looked like a plastic curtain or plastic window blinds.
The architecture of that building was really intriguing, the kind one
finds only on good old university campuses, and I couldn't really tell
if there was supposed to be a window there or not. I just never gave
it much thought, and it was too difficult to climb over all that Sun 3
gear in the way to see exactly what it was.
On a shelf in room 411 there were some magtape reels, and I thought
that if they ever had 4.3BSD tapes, they ought to be there. But I
looked through all the tapes I could see and 4.3BSD wasn't there. Bummer.
Then one day in summer 1998 I came to work in the morning, went up
the stairs to my beloved Computer Engineering and Science department
4th floor, went to the end of the hallway to my office, and got in.
I turned on the lights and per my usual habit, peeked all over the
room to make sure all the fun classic computers were still there.
And lo and behold, at the very end of room 412, where I previously
saw those plastic curtains or window blinds or whatever, I now saw
two racks full of magtapes! It turned out that the plastic "curtains"
were actually vertically sliding doors (kinda like garage doors) of
two huge magtape cabinets! Another staff member must have had a need
to get some old magtape and didn't close the cabinet after he was done.
With trembling hands, I raced there and started looking through all
the tapes. And sure enough, in a few minutes I found all 3 tapes of
the 4.3BSD 1600 BPI distribution.
I spent pretty much the whole year prior to that moment searching the
World high and low for 4.3BSD tapes when they were sitting the whole
time in my own office! Now that's a "Duh!" moment.
MS
Got a nice old Wacom Digitizer II (Model UD-0608-A) tablet, about 8" x
6" on the drawing surface, for classic (ADB) Macs. Goes inline with
the keyboard or mouse, I don't remember. Worked the last time I had
an ADB Mac up and running. I've got the pen and holder as well.
Free for the cost of shipping from 60074.
--
jht
Just a heads up for anyone that might be interested, I'll be giving a speech
at the Emergency Chicagoland Commodore Convention on Sept. 26th. The
material is based on the latest research by myself and Curt regarding the
previously muddled claims and relationship between between Atari Inc. and
Amiga, Amiga and Commodore, and Commodore/Amiga and Atari Corp/Tramiel. I'll
be giving a glimpse in to our research and setting the record straight on a
lot of the issues, as well as covering some material related to the split
and sale of Atari Inc. itself.
Visit the ECCC site for more info on the show, I believe my talk starts
around 3:30pm.
http://starbase.globalpc.net/eccc/
Marty
I found this CDC drive while looking at a large ebay vendor's site.
They also have a CDC Hawk listed. High priced, but perhaps of interest.
Search eBay with string "CDC Magnetic Peripherals" and a tester also
shows up. Hawk ebay id is 200255855015 and the item below is either an
EMD or FSD drive and its item id on ebay is 150328274824.
Their prices are quite high if that puts you off. I am not affiliated
with them in any way.
Jim
http://www.recycledgoods.com/34913_CDC%20Magnetic%20Peripherals_81542301_Ha…
I have a few electro-mechanical Olivetti Underwood 288 adding machines
that a friend rescued from a dumpster, which look like they're in great
shape (possibly never used). I haven't tried plugging them in yet, and
can't promise that they work
If you're interested in one or all three, let me know. I can post a
picture if you're interested. From the instruction card that is with
them, they appear to be from about 1960. They're about the size of a
desktop calculator.
I'm in West Lafayette, IN, USA. They're fairly small, so I should be
able to ship them anywhere in the US without much trouble. Sorry, but
no international shipping.
Pat
--
Purdue University Research Computing --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/
The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org
All this talk of Mumps made me remember while I worked for Marconi
Elliott Avionic Systems Ltd we had a library called MEASLs library.
Another branch of GEC came up with another library which they decided
to call Rubella.
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
> At 5:15 PM -0700 9/20/09, James Gessling wrote:
>>
>> InterSystems is still actively supporting and marketing MUMPS. Now it's
>> called CACHE. ?Popular in the health care field and to a lesser extent in
>> finance.
>
> Interesting... ?I hadn't realized they were one in the same. ?Is there a
> Hobbyist License of some sort, or am I mixing them up with another DB?
>
> Zane
Intersystems/Cache used to have a free 'developers' license for their
CACHE (sorry, no accent) product, at least on Windows (and the Mac as
well, I believe). Ok, I just went and checked... their Cache product
is available for free eval on Windows, Mac and Linux. It's the single
user version.
Mark
InterSystems is still actively supporting and marketing MUMPS. Now it's called CACHE. Popular in the health care field and to a lesser extent in finance.
Regards, Jim
Hey folks, I know there must be some VM types out there. Can
someone tell me the name of the file, and the minidisk on which it
resides, that contains the logo image that is displayed on terminals
upon connecting to a VM/370 or VM/ESA system?
I know where it lives in z/VM, but it doesn't seem to be in the
same place in earlier generations, and literally hours of digging has
turned up nothing.
Thanks,
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:43:43 -0700
From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com>
Subject: Re: Burroughs B80 in NJ
>The owner has contacted me to tell me that no one's stepped up for
>this system yet. Hard to believe that there's no interest in one of
>these.
>--Chuck
----
It'd be a shame to see it scrapped; it is a bit on the large and heavy side,
but a fairly rare example of an unusual style/configuration. Wonder if
it has a hard disk drive (14" 5MB platters) or line printer.
But as mentioned elsewhere, the diskettes are perhaps even more important,
depending on what's on 'em, and also any manuals.
Is the one at MARCH actually running?
I'm pretty sure I reformatted all my B80 disks and tossed my manuals
long ago, but ya never know; I'll keep my eyes out.
mike
*********************************************************************************
On 11 Sep 2009 at 13:00, cclist at sydex.com wrote:
> Just passing this one on; if you need to contact the owner, his email
> is:
>
> Resnickshardware [[at]] gmail.com
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --- I have an old Burroughs B80 in a building I own. It seems to have
> all the parts, there is a printer and some floppys. I am interested in
> selling it to a collector perhaps, or a museum. Any idea what it's
> worth? Or other ideas where I could sell or get rid of it?
>
> I'm located in NJ.
>
Al Kossow wrote:
> There also appear to be some serious MUMPS haters out there
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:MUMPS
I got to do a little MUMPS and I understand the criticism of someone
coming from a world where reduced normal form relational databases
are the expectation. There's a lot of homegrown MUMPS code out there
that does not conform to anyone's critique of architecture and style.
But that has more to do with the accessibility of MUMPS and the decades
old nature of the code and data, IMHO, than with anything intrinsically
bad about MUMPS. I get to deal with a lot of legacy code!
Now, to see something that shows true vitriol towards a software
product, you have to not only read "The Cognitive Style of Powerpoint",
but meet Edward Tufte and let him lay into it verbally :-).
Tim.
hello everyone,
I am looking for the data sheet of the dlart dc319.I did not find it ,I
found only a few informations in micronote 33,and schematics using it in
several cpus.If someone has the file or any pointer,I'll appreciate ?the
purpose is to look
what it really does and how,and the differences
with standard dl11 devices.
thanks very much ,best regards
Alain Nierveze
web:www.radio-astronomie.com
email:nierveze at radio-astronomie.com
Zane writes:
> Good luck. The only DSM-11 images I'm aware of are in a tape format
> for which to the best of my knowledge the software for reading was
> never released. The rest I've never seen any sign of.
I seem to recall DSM-11 using DOS-11 type filesystems on tape and
disk. That was a long, long time ago, so my memory may be faded!
Tim.
I'm doing a bit of research on Mumps history and would be glad to know if
anybody has copies of the following:
1. DSM-11 (which OS did it ran on the -11?)
2. VAX/DSM
3. DSM for OpenVMS (Alpha)
4. DSM for Ultrix (MIPS or VAX?)
If it can be run on SIMH, it'd be great!!
Thanks.
/wai-sun
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
> At 11:27 AM +0800 9/20/09, Wai-Sun Chia wrote:
>>
>> I'm doing a bit of research on Mumps history and would be glad to know if
>> anybody has copies of the following:
>>
>> 1. DSM-11 (which OS did it ran on the -11?)
>
> I believe it was its own OS.
Yes. I worked with *one* 11/53 ("MIcroPDP-11") that had DSM on it.
It was assuredly its own self-contained environment (i.e., no RT-11
underneath, no RSTS, no RSX, no UNIX - just DSM from the moment the
boot block was read in.
>> 2. VAX/DSM
>> 3. DSM for OpenVMS (Alpha)
>> 4. DSM for Ultrix (MIPS or VAX?)
Those are too "new" to be part of my experience.
>> If it can be run on SIMH, it'd be great!!
ISTR that there was nothing unusual about that MicroPDP-11 except
perhaps it had a 9track tape controller in it (not unique, but
certainly unusual in 1988-era PDP11s..
-ethan
I picked up an A500 recently. All I have for a display is the mono composite
out. Can I make an adapter for the RGB out to either VGA or component? If
not, where can I get an appropriate monitor?
Thanks
Joe
On 19 Sep 2009, at 02:12, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
>
> Message: 17
> From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com>
>
>>> Once I switch to the Mac Pro I'll have to decide if I setup a
>>> Classic
>>> Mac to run a couple apps (there is no replacement for me for
>>> ClarisDraw aka MacDraw), or if I run them under an emulator). I've
>>> stayed at 10.4.11 so I can continue to run Classic.
>>
>> What do you need in MacDraw that is not in MacDraft or MacDraft PE
>> (personal
>> edition) ? I must declare an interest here as I maintain MacDraft
>> and am a
>> shareholder of the company which bought the source code of MacDraft
>> from IDD
>> about 15 years ago.
>
> I honestly don't know. I woulad have to demo MacDraft.
If you want to, there are demos free to download from www.microspot.co.uk
. Look for the 'Download a demo' button on the individual product pages.
The P.E. version is restricted to 17" x 17", no layers, no AutoCAD
file formats, reports, dimensions cannot be linked and a few other
minor things.
Both versions work to scale, but it defaults to 1:1 scale. You can of
course zoom in and out irrespective of the printing scale.
As you were a MacDraw user, I think you will be at home with the user
interface once you get the idea of multiple tools in a pop-up menu in
a single tool icon in the tool palette.
> One of my questions
> would be what file formats does it support?
The current version reads from MacDraw II, DWG (not PE vsn) and
exports to PDF, PICT, various pixel map formats (such as JPEG) and DXF
(not PE and a bit limited functionality). The old 5.5 could also read
>from Dream and write to enhanced PICT (with embedded PostScript).
> I'm not doing CAD work, I
> simply find that ClarisDraw does what I need, and I've been using it
> (and
> before it MacDraw II) for close to twenty years.
>
> My suspicion is that CAD software is better suited to what I need than
> something like Adobe Illustrator (which I have but don't like).
> Prior to
> MacDraw/ClarisDraw I would use DesignCAD on the PC.
I don't think the CAD aspects of MacDraft get in the way of use for
general drawing but of course I don't have an objective view of my own
work.
I have a friend who is moving, and wants to get rid of a few things.
SCO Open Server software
SCO manual set - do you want these? heavy to ship unless I do book rate
I guess.
Anadex Silent Scribe printer
NEC PinWriter printer
I have a lot of old SCO software sets and manuals as well.
Off list, I'll forward to him, or arrange for you to get to my stuff.
Jim
Hello,I saw your e-mail post and was wondering if you would be interested in a used str-link IIa data recorder? Used powers up with out the case includes a drive belt. the motor doesnt work makes noise but works and the brass pully needs another axle hinge. There is a dent in the top part of the case face plate. It also comes with 2 data tapes and some paper work. I am asking $100.00 plus shipping of $18.00 in the lower 48 states. If your interesed you can contact me at semac10 at comcast.net or 253-447-7382 Please leave a message and I will get right back to you. Thanks Robert at Macs Security LLC.
Hi,
its me and my S8000 again ;)
One year ago I managed to get my hands on a S8000 which was in a kinda
bad shape. I made the repairs I was able to do (fixed all 3 PSUs, build a
complete new frontpanel, fixed cut wires). But I'm still looking for
parts which are missing in that sytem:
- harddisk
- a harddisk with a SA1000 interface as well as a so called "FINCH
adapter board" used by Zilog to attach this harddisk to the WDC
controler. It was probably called "FINCH" because the shipped SA1000
harddisk was probably a CDC 9410 Finch, 8", 32MB harddisk. Some
websites lists the 9410 drive as a SMD drive so I'm not sure about
this.
- a harddisk with a SMD interface - but then I would also need the SMD
interface adaptor for the S8000
- there was also a "mini-WDC" adapter which implemented a ST506 interface
for this I would have harddisks... This was used only in later S8000
Plus models.
- tape drive
- the original one was probably a DEI drive. It should have been a
QIC-02/36 type with four tracks and a fixed head (not like the 60MB
drives).
- tape cartridges
- still looking for the diagnostic and the OS cartridges....
- any other hardware ;)
- Paxton Hoag responded 2008 on the list that he saved a whole set of
S8000 boards when the original machine went to scrap - but
unfortunally he never responded back lately :(
If someone is interested in pics of my S8000 - they can be found here:
http://pics.pofo.de/gallery/v/S8000
--
Oliver Lehmann
http://www.pofo.de/http://wishlist.ans-netz.de/
Hi All,
I am trying to arrange a quantity buy of N8VEM S-100 backplanes and/or S-100
prototyping boards. The main goal is to lower unit prices by increasing the
quantity.
If I can get the minimum quantity of the backplanes up to 10 and/or the
prototyping boards to 20, I think I can offer either for $20 a PCB, maybe
less. Of course larger quantity makes it easier to lower the price even
more.
So far, I have 4 backplanes and 8 prototyping boards reserved. There has
been a few additions lately and it looks like it might be possible to pull
this off.
If you are interested please send me an email. Thanks and have a nice day!
Andrew Lynch
Hey folks,
somewhere out there is sitting a unit called CR10. It's huge and I want to save it from scrap.
Does anyone know if there's a difference between a CR10 and CR11? I have a CR11 Unibus interface...
Perhaps I could make them working together?
Is anyone desperately looking for such a thing? In that case.... Located in northern Germany.
Best wishes,
Philipp
--
http://www.hachti.de
Just a note that if you want to create PCB Panels yourself and save a
bit of money, I suggest you load GerbMerge
(http://claymore.engineer.gvsu.edu/~steriana/Python/gerbmerge/)
somewhere and use it. It takes std Gerber files as input and will
panelize multiple designs. I can vouch that it works well. If you do
use it, I would set the design spacing to 4mil or so and ask the PCB
house to do a 'V-groove" on the cut lines. It makes for easy
separation. As well, if you do decide to have assmebly done, you can
pay for 1 stencil instead of multiple.
Here's an example:
http://www.jbrain.com/2009/07/15/rom-el-test-boards/ In this one, I
tried something different with the breakaways, but I would recommend
V-grooves over the idea this picture shows.
Jim
--
Jim Brain, Brain Innovations (X)
brain at jbrain.com
Dabbling in WWW, Embedded Systems, Old CBM computers, and Good Times!
Home: http://www.jbrain.com
After giving away that Sparcbook a couple weeks back, I've had a lot
of requests for the spare manual. So I bumped it to the top of my
scanning pile, and I am happy to present this OCR'd PDF of the
Sparcbook 1 User's Guide. Feel free to upload it to your favorite
document archive:
http://chiclassiccomp.org/docs/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputing/Tadpole
--
jht
I have oodles of 1/4" QIC cartridges - the big ones, as used in old
Sun, SGI, and other early workstations. Anyone need them? I do not,
and I would rather not scrap them. Most are used, unknown condition.
How about as many as I can stuff in a large USPS flat rate box for
$20?
Please reply off list.
--
Will
Just passing this one on; if you need to contact the owner, his email is:
Resnickshardware [[at]] gmail.com
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I have an old Burroughs B80 in a building I own. It seems to have all the parts, there is a
printer and some floppys. I am interested in selling it to a collector perhaps, or a museum.
Any idea what it's worth? Or other ideas where I could sell or get rid of it?
I'm located in NJ.
On 16 Sep 2009, at 18:00, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:16:48 -0700
> From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh at aracnet.com>
> Subject: Classic Mac (was: Amiga video to component video or VGA?)
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Message-ID: <p06240816c6d6a2261e3d(a)[192.168.1.199]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
>
> At 10:56 PM -0700 9/15/09, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
>> Classic Mac collecting really is dirt cheap except for the oddball
>> exotic
>> pieces (CC, TAM, TV). It's rewarding, too, what you can do with it;
>> there's a
>> lot of places blowing used and NOS stuff out by the cartload, and
>> much of
>> it is still really useful and practical for small servers, even a
>> backup
>> workstation.
>
> How hard/expensive is it to get NOS Apple Extended II ADB keyboards?
> While I can't afford to right now, I really should invest in a
> couple, as well as a couple USB-to-ADB converters. Once I finally
> switched to Mac OS X I gave up on the ADB II Mouse, but I suspect I'd
> be lost without my keyboard. I paid $160 new for it in January of
> '97, and it has lasted through my 8500/180, G4/450, and is now on my
> G5 2x2 (I hope to get a Mac Pro soon). Amazingly the letters are
> intact, but the spacebar has groves worn in it.
I still use one every day, only problem is the 'E' key keeps double
typing, maybe I should clean it or like you, try to find an NOS one,
needs to be a UK model though.
>
> Once I switch to the Mac Pro I'll have to decide if I setup a Classic
> Mac to run a couple apps (there is no replacement for me for
> ClarisDraw aka MacDraw), or if I run them under an emulator). I've
> stayed at 10.4.11 so I can continue to run Classic.
What do you need in MacDraw that is not in MacDraft or MacDraft PE
(personal edition) ? I must declare an interest here as I maintain
MacDraft and am a shareholder of the company which bought the source
code of MacDraft from IDD about 15 years ago.
Roger Holmes.
Technical Director, Microspot Ltd.
>
> Zane
>
I have a nice HP 64000 series computer for sale. I rescued it from a surplus shop and fixed/cleaned it up a bit. I don't know much about it, and would like to pass it on to someone who does. Here is a copy of the post I left on the vintage-computer.com forums:
For sale: An HP 64110A "portable mainframe" computer, used primarily for doing design work and in-circuit analysis and emulation. It's still considered to be a fairly competent diagnostic and development tool. Not to mention it looks awesome.
This thing has been tested by me to the best of my ability and seems to be in full working order, but it's huge and I really am probably never going to use it to it's full potential. It comes with the optional "backpack" pouch attached to the top of the unit. It also comes with a large amount of cables and probes of various kinds. It has 5 different "pods" which can plug into the back of the unit. I am not familiar enough with this computer to be able to say what all the cards inside of it do. It also comes with a number of floppy disks, all of which work and have data on them. I am fairly sure some disks needed for doing compiling/text editing/terminal use are missing. However the
boot disks and timing disks are there and work.
If you know what you're looking for and can direct me, I'll be happy to do whatever inspections/photo taking you need.
The machine does have a few small defects which I will list here:
-The plastic screen cover has gotten a little bit discolored/foggy in one corner, which makes the screen look slightly blurry, but in my experience the screen is still very readable.
-the keyboard hinge has come slightly loose on one side, but generally this is not a problem when operating on a table or in the "upright" mode standing on the floor
-a couple of keys are slightly gummy in operation, and a good cleaning should fix this
-there are some fairly normal scratches/scuffs on the case, probably because this thing is heavy and some engineer many years ago was forced to drag it across the floor.
-and lastly, I haven't taken the time to thoroughly clean the thing, so it's fairly dusty inside
I am looking for a some things I can get in trade for this beast:
-A compact flash drive card for Apple II (CFFA, etc.)
-Other Apple II things, especially IIgs stuff
-Tandy model T things (ROMBO, NadsBox, TPDD 1 or 2)
-Neo Geo MVS hardware (kinda a long shot, but hey)
-what have you, just ask if I'm interested
I would gladly trade this whole setup for a MicroDrive card for Apple IIgs. I accept PayPal if you aren't interested in trading.
For people making offers, I am thinking somewhere in the price range of... a MicroDrive card. So $150? Let me know if you think I'm way off.
One final thing- this beast is very heavy. You'll be paying shipping, which I have no clue how much it'd be because I'm not exactly sure how much this thing weighs.
http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?t=17278http://picasaweb.google.com/arf.at.sjv/HP64110APortableMainframe#
If interested, email me: arfink (at) stthomas.edu or send me a PM via the vintage-computer.com forums.
On 17 Sep 2009, at 16:15, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote:
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:31:20 -0700
> From: Brent Hilpert <hilpert at cs.ubc.ca>
> Subject: Re: Classic Mac (was: Amiga video to component video or VGA?)
> To: General at invalid.domain, "Discussion at invalid.domain":On-Topic and
> Off-Topic Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> Message-ID: <4AB12EF8.1AA97C27 at cs.ubc.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> "Zane H. Healy" wrote:
>>
>> Once I switch to the Mac Pro I'll have to decide if I setup a Classic
>> Mac to run a couple apps (there is no replacement for me for
>> ClarisDraw aka MacDraw), or if I run them under an emulator). I've
>> stayed at 10.4.11 so I can continue to run Classic.
>
> I'm actually still running native Classic for these sorts of
> reasons. I must
> try out Cameron's Classilla for an improved browser, but I've been
> meaning to
> ask here about ClarisDraw/MacDraw for awhile.
>
> I have hundreds of pages of reverse-engineered schematics of old
> equipment,
> drawn in ClarisWorks. It's my own 'symbol library' so I don't expect
> to be able
> to convert them easily to some common CAD schematic capture, but
> does anyone
> know of a conversion or upgrade path to pull these into the future (or
> present), besides printing and scanning them?
If you have a machine which still runs ClarisWorks, you should be able
to save this data in MacDraw II format which MacDraft 5.5 can read and
save. Possibly 5.6 too, but not 6.0, though that isn't released yet.
There was just too much code to maintain for reading old files, and
the alternative of using 5.5 (and 4.0 for REALLY old files) is still
there if you can get access to a PPC/68k Mac. If you have used blends
they won't come through, but schematics should be fine. From MacDraft
you can save them as PDFs, which Illustrator will read if you can
stand the price and the user interface.
>
> Alternatively, is the file format definition out there in public, so
> I might
> write a conversion program some day?
We've been working to connect a second TU56 to our PDP-8/e and TC08. Unfortunately, our second TU56 had been configured for a TD8-E. The good news is that we surmounted our lack of a M531 negative bus converter module - by making our own. The module worked partially (it did boot OS/8) on its first test, but further testing discovered one missing trace, which was easily ECO'ed. With that in place, I discovered that our second TU56 had a defective M040, and fortunately we did have a spare to replace that. Each TU56 runs appropriate MAINDECs successfully.
The bad news is that we still don't have two TU56s on our PDP-8/e. The extant TU56 and TC08 documentation (thanks, Bitsavers!) aren't particularly clear on this, but the cable that connects the TC08 to a TU56 is NOT the same cable to 'daisy-chain' to another TU56. The TC08-TU56 cable, 70-6223, has several crossovers on the paddles - it's not A to A, B to B, etc. The TC08 documentation *hints* at that, but only states that connecting two TU56s requires a "M908 to M908" cable. The M908 is the paddle itself. There are at least two cables made using those paddles.
The correct one to connect two TU56 drives (and I finally thought to confirm this in the FSTM) is a BC02X, which comes in various lengths. It, too, has M908 ends, but the wiring is direct, A to A, etc. (except for four low-value resistors in four of the lines). We do have a 70-6223, and I suppose we could rewire it - but I really really hate to do things like that. Frankly, I'd rather make some M908s. But I'd really like to find an original BC02X, if anyone has a spare in any length. Please contact me privately if you have one and would be interested in making a deal. Hey, we have some more M531 replicas.... Thanks -- Ian
Ian King, Vintage Systems Engineer <iank at vulcan.com>
Living Computer Museum
A project of Vulcan, Inc.
http://www.livingcomputermuseum.org
I have finally acquired a Teletype ASR33 for my PDP-11s (/20 and /10).
Is there any chance of damaging the console port of my PDP-11/10 when
I connect directly to the ASR33? Should I use some sort of electrical
isolator board between the TTY and the port? Is there any way of
testing the ASR33 prior to connecting to the 20mA port? The TTY seems
to work fine in local mode. I have not yet tried line mode yet.
What is the connection diagram between the 9 pin terminal strip on the
TTY to the DEC console port?
Thanks for any information you can provide.
--barrym
Dear all,
we are trying to get an ASR43 paper tape unit back to running condition.
The front panel punch advance button now works, punching sprocket holes.
This seems to have been a problem with the connector to the circuit
board, and switching the pulley from 60Hz to 50Hz.
I now really need access to schematics for the circuitry to try to work
out the problems with the reader, which will not advance.
A scan or purchase would be acceptable.
Best Wishes,
Ronan Scaife,
DCU, Dublin, Ireland
--
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
> The A3000 has a VGA out. ?Or if you're lucky you can find a video card that
> goes in the A2000, A3000, or A4000.
I forgot about the vga adapter on the 3000.
> For the A500, the best bet is to find a A520, but you might need to feed it
> through a VCR or something depending on the TV you want to hook it to. ?I
> know that is the case with your one TV and things like the TurboGrafix 16,
> or our SuperGun. ?I assume a A520 is still easy to find, I know they were 10
> years ago.
They show up on ebay all the time, but you might have to wait a couple weeks.
> Personally in this day and age, I think the A500 is one of the best Amiga's
> to have, as it plays all the old games. ?For AGA games though you need a
> A1200 or A4000.
The 2000 is supposed to be the same design as the 500, just with slots
added. It plays the same games and has many more upgrade options.
Still, the 500 was the one I had and I'd like to have one again. I
have a 600, two 2000s, and parts of a 1200. I'd still like to get the
1200 working, and end up with a lot of upgrades for the 2000 and 1200.
The upgrades are getting expensive these days though. Look at this:
http://www.softhut.com/cgi-bin/test/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=catalog/ha…
I just can't bring myself to spend $500 on an amiga. Many fine
woodworking machines can be had for that. Still, the 68060 boards are
awesome.
> Zane (who is hoping to revive my A500 and/or A3000 this winter)
I'd like to have a 500 and 3000. Care to trade a working 2000 for both? :-D
brian
Dave,
Do you have any Intel ISIS-II OS diskettes available? I have a Series II
MDS-225.
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I though that this post on alt.sys.pdp11 would be of interest.
From: Alan Frisbie <Usenet02 at Flying-Disk.com>
Newsgroup: alt.sys.dpd11
It is my sad duty to report the passing of long-time RT-11
and PDP-11 fan, and my friend, Robert C. Peckham.
Bob was one of the driving forces behind the last release
(v5.7 -- Y2K-compliant) of RT-11. He continued to use it
long after most other people had moved on to other platforms.
Bob died peacefully in his sleep at home on September 9, 2009.
He had suffered from a variety of ailments over the years, and
they gradually forced him to give up the work and activities he
loved so much. His friends and family hope that he finds a
racetrack and fast cars in heaven so he can once again enjoy the
sport he excelled at.
Of immediate concern to the family is what to do with Bob's
collection of PDP-11 systems and supplies. An inventory has not
yet been made, but they want it to go to "a good home", someone
who would appreciate it. Besides the PDP-11 equipment, there
are also several Wright Line media cabinets, DEC manuals,
handbooks, and related supplies. There is at least one 9-track
tape drive, one or two Diablo 630 printers, and an LA120
DECwriter. Everything is located in Glendale, California.
Because Bob left his family with a mountain of debts, they cannot
afford to ship anything and would appreciate at least a nominal
payment for some of the items. I will post an inventory to these
groups in the next few weeks as we dig our way through the
collection.
Feel free to contact me at the above address if there is anything
in particular you would like me to keep my eyes open for.
Sincerely,
Alan E. Frisbie
-- Flying Disk Systems, Inc. 323-256-2575
-- 4759 Round Top Drive
-- Los Angeles, CA 90065
On 9/16/09, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
> Wouldn't we all, I hate to think about what I've spent on my A3000,
> and I don't have half the system you do.
I bought an A3000 new (that and my A1000, the rest was used/free)...
between "simple" memory upgrades and HD floppies/larger SCSI disks and
an A2065, I've got well over $3K in it, possibly over $4K (not
counting the GG2 Bus+ I made myself). The A1000 was upgraded
incrementally with a mix of new and used parts, so it's tough to add
it all up, but when I was populating the Spirit InBoard in the late
1980s, it was during the DRAM Dumping tariff war with Japan, and I
remember individual 41256 chips soared from $3.50 each to $17.50 each
essentially overnight (fortunately, I was able to scavenge some 50256
chips from a discarded engineering prototype at work, so I _didn't_
personally pay $560.00/MB).
Stuff today is so cheap it's not funny; of course much of it is less
interesting, thus the reason for still playing with the old stuff.
-ethan
I'm hosting an open house for the Chicago Classic Computer group at my home
on Saturday, September 19. One of the agenda items will be the kickoff for
VCF 5.0, to be held in Chicago in 2010.
If you are in the area, please feel free to join us on Saturday. RSVP
directly to me (offlist) for time and directions.
More importantly, if you'd like to work with us to make VCF Chicago a
reality, please respond and let's get this thing started!
best,
Jack
jack DOT rubin AT ameritech DOT net
Found this site, lots of vintage computers for sale, as well as everything else.
I talked to the guy on the phone, sounds good, but I haven't bought anything. I have no connection with owner or site in any way.
Located in New jersey.
http://earth.prohosting.com/vinstuff/
Examples:
Northstar Advantage
Apple II plus (listed as Apple II)
TI, Tandy, Radio Shack, Comnmodore,
EAI TR10 Analog Computer (!)
Lear Siegler
Model 33, 35 TTY
He's an old guy, good prices, shipping may cost extra.
http://earth.prohosting.com/vinstuff/
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote:
> That was why I went with an Amiga 3000 and an Atari TT030 in the late 90's.
> ?I'm hoping to revive both machines this winter, both spent way to many
> years in storage while we lived in an apartment. ?Now that we have a house
> they're at home with us, and I have some room to work on them.
I'm the same. Too many hobbies, not enough time. These days, classic
computing has taken a back seat to getting the wood shop done. Still
need to finish the basement also. :-/
> I didn't realize Software Hut was still around. ?Guess I just had bad timing
> last time I tried to go to their website. ?That's not that bad of a price, I
> think they were slightly more 10 years ago.
They're legendary for not updating their web page. Better to ignore
what their page says and call them. I swear they update their website
every other year whether they need to or not.
The price is great considering it's a *new* board. It's still more
than I can spend on an old computer though.
> I got rid of 3 A2000's a couple years ago to another list member. ?At the
> time I needed the space more than 3 A2000's. ?I still have 1.5 A500's, 1
> A600, 2 A3000's, and 2 A1200's (I might be able to build 1 working from the
> two, but it need's surface mount work).
The caps like to go from what I hear.
>The A3000 I got from someone who
> got it from Magni (I also have a pair of Magni Genlock's), and I fully
> upgraded it with the latest chips, full 16MB+2MB RAM, ethernet, a Picasso IV
> video card, and Amiga OS 3.9. ?I never could bring myself to spend the $$$'s
> on a CPU accelerator card. ?The 2nd A3000 is basically pristine in the
> boxes. ?Though I think the keyboard is in an A2000 box, not an A3000 box.
I have most of what I need to put my 1200 motherboard into a custom
case. I just need the lyra keyboard adapter to get a ps2 keyboard
hooked up. That should be a fun project. It's high on the list once
the wood shop is back together this weekend.
brian
Hi Richard,
Looks like you got a nice computer from that auction. There are a few
different possible configurations when it comes to floppy disk drives.
I probably will be telling you things you already know, since you used
these systems in the past. Strictly speaking, if you have a 225, that
implies an 8085-based cpu board with 64k bytes of RAM on that board. It
also implies that the boot drive is the internal drive being controlled
by the IOC (Input/output controller) back panel board. That board has
imbedded on it a single-density controller. To use that configuration
there would be a 50-pin wide ribbon cable from the IOC to the Shugart
SA801 drive. In this standard configuration the internal drive is
single-density single-sided.
There was an option Intel sold that upgraded the internal 801 drive to
work in a double-density mode. That included a two-board multibus set
that could control up to four drives. Normally that two-board set
controlled up to two external two-drive packages. So up to four
double-density single-sided drives total. They also sold a special
cable that allowed that internal two-board-set to control the one
internal drive. That cable went from the interface board of the
two-board set to two connectors. One connector is the 50-pin edge to
the 801 drive directly. The other connector is a 37-pin D-type
connector that attaches to the back panel of the MDS and is for
controlling a two-drive external box. There are other permutations, but
that is the most common way to get the internal drive to be double-density.
It sounds, from your e-mail, that you may have that optional
configuration. So I have a question. What is set up in your system to
control the internal drive? The difference is whether it is
single-density or double-density.
I'm going to cc this to the classic computer list as it may be
interesting to some others there.
I should be able to help you with software, but whether you need
single-density or double-density is significant.
Dave
Richard Main said the following on 9/13/2009 11:59 AM:
> Dave,
>
> I was an engineer for Ford Aerospace in 1976 and I got my department to buy
> an Intel Series II MDS-225 with an MDS-DDS and UPP-101. I used it to
> develop code for Intel SBC-80/20 boards we used in some satellite downlink
> equipment. I got pretty good with ASM-80/85 and even microFORTH. I bought
> serial #6 from FORTH, Inc.
>
> Last week one came up on eBay and I was the high bidder at $235.50 (item
> 200377495743). When it arrived, I opened the covers and found a few cables
> unplugged on the I/O board and a switch in the wrong position. Fixing that,
> the unit signed on with the monitor. Seems to be completely functional. It
> is equipped with one built in SA801 DD disk drive, a two board disk
> controller, and a three board plus pod ICE-86A.
>
> I contacted you because I have zero software. At a minimum, I need the
> ISIS-II OS. Be nice to get the ASM-80/85, ICE-86, and UPP software. A copy
> of microFORTH for the MDS would be especially cool.
>
> Best regards,
> Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Mabry [mailto:dmabry at mich.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 4:51 AM
> To: mainpatents at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Intellec MDS questions
>
> Hello Richard,
>
> I have most of what was ever available for the Intel MDS computers.
> What is it that you would like?
>
> Tell me a little about your MDS please. I'm always interested in those
> beasts.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
> Richard Main said the following on 9/10/2009 2:23 PM:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you have any Intel ISIS-II OS diskettes available? I have a Series II
>> MDS-225.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard Brewster Main, Esq.
>>
>> Patent Attorney
>>
>> 9832 Lois Stiltner Ct.
>>
>> Elk Grove, CA 95624
>>
>>
>>
>> mainpatents at gmail.com
>>
>> http://mainpatents.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> cell: 650-575-4624
>>
>> FAX: 650-641-3126
>>
>>
>>
>> home: 916-494-2571
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:22:44 -0700
Groups: comp.sys.dec,alt.sys.pdp11,vmsnet.pdp-11
From: Alan Frisbie <Usenet02_REMOVE at Flying-Disk.com>
Subject: Robert C. Peckham -- RIP
Id: <dr-dnUiDEtp2ajLXnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d at supernews.com>
========
It is my sad duty to report the passing of long-time RT-11
and PDP-11 fan, and my friend, Robert C. Peckham.
Bob was one of the driving forces behind the last release
(v5.7 -- Y2K-compliant) of RT-11. He continued to use it
long after most other people had moved on to other platforms.
Bob died peacefully in his sleep at home on September 9, 2009.
He had suffered from a variety of ailments over the years, and
they gradually forced him to give up the work and activities he
loved so much. His friends and family hope that he finds a
racetrack and fast cars in heaven so he can once again enjoy the
sport he excelled at.
Of immediate concern to the family is what to do with Bob's
collection of PDP-11 systems and supplies. An inventory has not
yet been made, but they want it to go to "a good home", someone
who would appreciate it. Besides the PDP-11 equipment, there
are also several Wright Line media cabinets, DEC manuals,
handbooks, and related supplies. There is at least one 9-track
tape drive, one or two Diablo 630 printers, and an LA120
DECwriter. Everything is located in Glendale, California.
Because Bob left his family with a mountain of debts, they cannot
afford to ship anything and would appreciate at least a nominal
payment for some of the items. I will post an inventory to these
groups in the next few weeks as we dig our way through the
collection.
Feel free to contact me at the above address (after removing
"_REMOVE") if there is anything in particular you would like
me to keep my eyes open for.
Sincerely,
Alan E. Frisbie
-- Flying Disk Systems, Inc. 323-256-2575
-- 4759 Round Top Drive
-- Los Angeles, CA 90065
I have a bunch of Atari and Commodore stuff that needs to find a new
home. I'd love it if someone would come and pick this up in Bedford,
NH. If that doesn't work, I may be willing to ship some/all of it if
the buyer pays the shipping. If possible, I'd like all of the Atari
stuff to go in one batch and all of the Commodore stuff in one batch
(or everything in one batch).
I'm offering this stuff for free although if you have any old
calculators or hand-held computers that you'd like to trade that would
be even better!
Thanks!
David
Atari stuff
2 Atari 1050 disk drives with power supplies and SIO cables
1 Atari 850 interface with power supply and SIO cable
6 SIO cables
1 Atari Logo cartridge and manuals
1 Atari Editor/Assembler cartridge and manual
1 pair of Atari paddle controllers
1 Atari controller extension cable / Y adapter
2 RF switch boxes
1 Atari PAG-1200 power supply, 9VDC 1A
2 Atari CO-14319 power supplies, 9VAC 15.3VA
1 Atari 1010 Owner's Guide
1 Atari Basketball cartridge CXL4004
1 Atari Music Composer cartridge CXL4007
1 Spinnaker Adventure Creator cartridge
Commodore stuff
1 Commodore 1541 disk drive with power and data cables
2 Suncom Tac5 joysticks
1 Aprospand 4 slot extender
1 Cardkey numeric keypad with a missing keycap (the multiply key)
1 Cardco centronics parallel interface with cables
After eleven years of unwavering support for the Museu do Computador,
Museu do Computador doors closed on august , 2007 at Av do Rio
bonito, Sao Paulo. This is not the kind of news I want to start the
New Year with, but I am confident that the hard work of the Museum
volunteers and staff over these past eleven years will continue. I
will be exploring every avenue to find new sources of financial
support, with the hope of re-opening the Museum in the west side of
Sao Paulo area in the near future. Your help and assistance in the
past has been invaluable. In the coming months, you can continue that
service by telling your friends and family about the Museum and how it
has benefited the community. As we seek our future, I believe we can
find solutions to the problems we face. Your ideas, contacts and
efforts will contribute to that success. So?call, E-mail, write or
shout at me, whatever it takes, until no stone is unturned and we have
fulfilled our objective to save the Museu do Computador
Thank you
Jose Carlos Valle
President Curator
curador at museudocomputador.com.br
take a look of my blog.
http://blogdocurador.museudocomputador.com.br/?p=72
--
Jos? Carlos Valle -
Got home very late, and now very tired!!!
VCF East 6.0 this weekend was, by far, the largest and most successful
of all the east-coast editions. We out-did ourselves for the number of
exhibitors (23), number of attendees, amount of income for our club and
museum, all sorts of good press attention (ars technica, AOL, etc.),
very busy computer consignment and book sale, and special events (8-bit
concert, guided museum tours, etc.)
We also took lots of video and photos, hopefully to be posted soon.
Best-of-show winner: Mike Lee (Chicago); exhibit: "Fail" (computers that
were duds)
Best rookie VCF East exhibitor: Robert Bernardo (Visalia, Calif.);
exhibit: Guitar Hero on a C-64
I'm off to hibernate for a while. :)
- Evan