- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by john＠yoyodyne-propulsion.net

... another classic service dies... first Gopher (Archie, etc) now Ceefax (teletext)! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceefax -- Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems: ?"The Future Begins Tomorrow" Visit us at: http://www.yoyodyne-propulsion.net -------- "Under the Obama plan, NASA will spend $100 billion on human spaceflight over the next 10 years in order to accomplish nothing" -Robert Zubrin

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Iomega ZIP programming manual ?

by jeffj＠panix.com

From: Jos Dreesen <jdr_use at bluewin.ch> Subject: Iomega ZIP programming manual ? > Probably borderline for CCtalk, > but does anyone have a proper programming manual for the > Iomega ZIP drive ( 100MB atapi version ) ? > I need to know exactly which ATAPI commands have been implemented. To paraphrase a famous Jedi knight "use the source, Luke!" The Linux driver source code is probably the closest thing to documentation This mentions what parts to look for: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/ZIP-Drive.html (sorry I don't have a better URL. I've rarely needed to find Linux source code) I never allowed ZIP drives in my house but I tried using 1 gig JAZ drives. I ruined them by trying the SCSI low-level format command on them. The cartridge was unuseable after that. I suspect ZIP drives & cartridges are similar: DO NOT LOW LEVEL FORMAT! -- jeffj

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Raised flooring available

by djg＠pdp8online.com

Its in NE Philadelphia. You must come deinstall and haul away. Time is very short. If you are interested and can come and remove very soon email me and I will give you the contact information. I have no more knowledge, just forwarding the info. It's unclear if they will want some $ for it.

14 years, 4 months

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book on VMS architecture?

by tshoppa＠wmata.com

[VMS Internals Books e.g. Kenah Goldenberg & Bate] > I haven't seen that specific book, but in general such books usually > tell what the software does, but not the engineering trade-offs that led > to it being done that way as opposed to some other way, which seems to > be what was requested. At least a little of that does shine through. "The Hitchiker's Guide to VMS" has many tidbits up through the V5 days. Bruce Ellis, 1990. And even better it's enjoyable. There were various detailed things in DTJ, although those typically represent more of the corporate mongolian-horde design-by-committee approach to systems programming, rather than anything you'd want to actually emulate. Tim.

14 years, 4 months

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Iomega ZIP programming manual ?

by jdr_use＠bluewin.ch

Probably borderline for CCtalk, but does anyone have a proper programming manual for the Iomega ZIP drive ( 100MB atapi version ) ? I need to know exactly which ATAPI commands have been implemented. Jos Dreesen

14 years, 4 months

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book on VMS architecture?

by legalize＠xmission.com

Note: I'm not asking about VAX hardware architecture, but about the software architecture of the VMS operating system. What were it's design goals? What were the design trade-offs made that resulted in the specific choices for VMS? Process scheduling? I/O? etc. Is there a good book on this subject? -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 version available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

14 years, 4 months

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C. Gordon Bell architecture books

by legalize＠xmission.com

There's almost nil about these books on amazon, so I'd like to hear some thoughts on these. In particular, I'd like to know what's different between the last two. "Computer Engineering: A DEC View of Hardware Systems Design" <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0932376002/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m…> "Computer Structures: Principles and Examples" <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0070573026/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m…> "Computer Structures: Readings and Examples" <http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0070043574/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&m…> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 version available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

14 years, 4 months

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TRS-80 HD emulator...

by geneb＠deltasoft.com

Some here may find this useful: http://www.vecoven.com/trs80/trs80.html He seems to be emulating a WD1010 drive controller. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll - Go Collimated or Go Home. Some people collect things for a hobby. Geeks collect hobbies. ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Buying desktop hardware and installing a server OS doesn't make a server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes you a duck. [Cipher in a.s.r]

14 years, 4 months

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Commodore PET 2001 Video Problem

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message: Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 09:55:12 -0400 From: Ethan Dicks <ethan.dicks at gmail.com> > Try powering up with the video RAMs removed (they are in the back and look > like they have dots on them). With no RAM, the PET should power up to a > blank screen Tsk, tsk, Ethan, you know better than that ;-) A PET with a working video section and video RAM removed will show the classic checkerboard pattern or under certain circumstances a pattern of small black squares. No doubt there's considerable PET knowledge on this list, but as Terry suggested previously the VCF forum or one of the PET/CBM-specific lists might be a better place to find help with a sick PET... m

14 years, 4 months

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Reference Disc for a Research Machines PC-386

by mark＠msanet.co.uk

Hi You wouldn't have a copy of the reference disks for your rm pc-386 as I have one and am unable to setup it up as I cant get into the bios etc Any help would be much appreciated Cheers mark

14 years, 4 months

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traight-8 miniaturised

by elson＠pico-systems.com

cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: From: David Griffith <dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: straight-8 miniaturised Who was the one with the wacky idea of building a Straight-Eight PDP8 using flipchip cards populated with surface-mount parts? I have a hankering to run some numbers about it. There's some guy in Germany who built a complete computer using discrete components, mostly resistors and bipolar transistors (no ICs), but all surface mount. It was quite small. I can't find the link now, but there are a bunch of homebrew computer projects linked to here: http://www.homebrewcpu.com/links.htm http://www.holmea.demon.co.uk/Links.htm Jon

14 years, 4 months

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Quantex 650 / 2200 QIC tapedrive

by lehmann＠ans-netz.de

Hi, I'm thinking of getting my Zilog System 8000 maybe one day back to life... this includes multiple tasks. - get a working harddrive - get a working tapedrive - get access to tapes containing the OS and the diagnostics Right now I'm thinking of the tapedrive part. The original drive is a DEI CMTD-3400 http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/dei/CMTD-3400S2_4tk6400bpi_1979.pdf I have one but it is broken in multiple ways - the previous owner I got the drive from replaced it in the 80s as it was failing (no further details available) - the motor does not run smootly - it does not start on its own when powered up and the UPM is changing. I was not able to open it. - the rubber wheel went to fluid (usual problem...) I now got a so called "Quantex 2200" which is a 19" case with two Quantex 650 drives which should be able to handle the same tape format as the DEI drive. All I was able to find about this drive was: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/quantex/TM1001_650_Jul81.pdf Does anyone have any experience with this drive? I wonder if I could make it "connection compatible" somehow with the DEI drive. The manual itself talks about a controller board which is the only whay the drives can be bus driven - it looks like the drives in this 2200 case do not have this optional controller board. Maybe they do not have it because the big plate in top of the case is a controller board for both drives... Who knows - I did not find anything usefull about this 2200 case nor how it is supposed to be connected to what (pinouts). The rubber wheels are as well went fluid. I could also need some ideas how to get a QIC drive capable of reading and writing DC300XL QIC cartridges hooked up to a PC with BSD or Linux running as in some point in the future. I must be able to copy the system tapes (reading + writing) with a PC. Pics of this 2200 case: http://pics.pofo.de/gallery3/index.php/S8000/Quantex-2200 Greetings, Oliver

14 years, 4 months

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Seeking Grant Stockly

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

Do you remember Grant Stockly of altairkit.com? Whatever happened to him? The site is still up and running, but it hasn't been updated since 2007. The forums there are choked with spam. I'd love to see what he's been up to and maybe buy a kit from him. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

14 years, 4 months

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straight-8 miniaturised

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

Who was the one with the wacky idea of building a Straight-Eight PDP8 using flipchip cards populated with surface-mount parts? I have a hankering to run some numbers about it. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

14 years, 4 months

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PDP-8/L core memory surgery

by ethan.dicks＠gmail.com

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Michael Thompson <michael.99.thompson at gmail.com> wrote: > The M220 tester is the one that I want to see > working. Those modules are problematic and difficult to test in a > partially working system. I would love to see (and build!) an M220 tester. That's a complex module. -ethan

14 years, 4 months

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Evans and Sutherland parts and Soroc 120 posted

by innfoclassics＠gmail.com

Spotted on epay Evans and Sutherland Misc in Portland Oregon. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Evans-Sutherland-ESCP-Power-Supply-030446-001-Card-… http://www.ebay.com/itm/Evans-Sutherland-ESCP-Card-Gage-Tester-030451-001-H… I don't think there is much left and these seem to be power supply and testing equipment, hopefully of interest to someone. Soroc 120 terminal - rough - Vancouver BC http://www.ebay.com/itm/140735397588 I have visited the Hackery and bought stuff from them, they seem to be reliable but I have no experience with their packing. Paxton -- Paxton Hoag Astoria, OR USA

14 years, 4 months

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SCSI-1 to IDE converter board

by LYNCHAJ＠YAHOO.COM

Hi Months ago there was some discussion about a SCSI-1 to IDE converter project. There appears to be some general need for older SCSI-1 based computers to replace their hard drives with more available models. Unfortunately there are no "free and open" solutions as of yet AFAIK. I've designed a PCB that converts SCSI-1 to IDE and SD. There are about 8 PCBs left. I am looking for some volunteers to help build and test the board. So far we know the basic board boots but still need more software to handle the SCSI-1 to IDE or SD conversion. http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/browse/#view=ViewFolder&param=MINI%20SCSI%20t o%20IDE%20prototypes If you are willing to volunteer and have some experience in building, testing, debugging, and writing software this would be a good project. Please contact me by email for more information. Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch

14 years, 4 months

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Chinese ebay eprom erasers

by cclist＠sydex.com

On 15 Apr 2012 at 12:20, Eric Smith wrote: > Chuck Guzis wrote: > > just google for "germicidal lamp" Not horribly expensive. Add an > > inexpensive mechanical timer if you'd like and you're all set. > > But remember, the short-wave UV can harm your eyes fairly quickly. > Catching a brief glimpse of it won't hurt you, but avoid looking at it > any longer than that. Put it in an opaque container. I strongly > recommend installing a switch that turns off the lamp when the > container is opened. Hence my coffee can container. Not convenient to turn upside down and stare into. One could add a microswitch or even a mercury switch to enforce an interlock, but I never found it necessary. > If you're in a hurry, it is also possible to use a Xenon or Krypton > flash tube (provided that it is made from quartz class to not filter > out the shortwave UV) to erase the EPROMs nearly instantaneously. > Needless to say, this is even more potentially harmful to the eyes. Should be easy enough to find if one hoarded the disposable camera innards. A carbon arc will also do just fine (I remember how brightly the luminous face on a watch would glow when held to the observation port of an Ashcraft projector can. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jqc4GiMQE0). A MIG welder would also probably generate enough short-wave UV. I wonder if enough UV would get through, say, an ordinary 75 watt mercury-vapor luminaire. --Chuck

14 years, 4 months

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WTB: SGI Professional IRIS CPU / Help Needed

by robert.herget＠gmail.com

Hi I was wondering if you still have your Professional Iris 4D/50G? Robert

14 years, 4 months

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Systems Engineering Laboratories => Gould etc. systems?

by RichA＠vulcan.com

Querying the Group Mind(TM): We have been asked to find out if any Systems Engineering Laboratories systems are still in existence. That's kind of vague, but that's the question as it was posed to us, and I said I'd ask in the usual fora. We're only looking for information on whether any of these systems are known still to be in existence, whether in use or in storage. I vaguely remember Gould SEL32 "superminis" in the late 70s/early 80s as competitors to the DEC VAX and the IBM 43xx lines, but only through ads in Computerworld and Datamation. Information on those would be appreciated. We would also like to know about earlier systems, including the 24-bit processors from the mid-60s. Thanks for any help you can provide. Rich Alderson Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer Vulcan, Inc. 505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900 Seattle, WA 98104 mailto:RichA at vulcan.com mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org (206) 342-2239 (206) 465-2916 cell http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/

14 years, 4 months

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Official Spring cleaning sale

by slandon＠centurylink.net

Heres my official List of whats for sale Apple IIGS ROM 03 with CMS SCSI II card, AE SonicBlaster, 2 External SCSI Hard Drives, 1 40mb the other 80MB- both come with extra drive mechanisms- Matching Monitor, Keyboard & Mouse $200 plus shipping Apple //e enhanced system loaded Has the 80col/RGB Card, With Color Monitor 100, Echo II Speech Synth Card, Apple II workstation card, Liron Card w/ 3.5 UniDisk Drive, SCSI Card Comes with a DuoDisk Drive, and a 3.5 UniDisk, Super Serial Card, And a Monitor // $300 Tandy 1400HD Laptop- Comes with AC Adapter and Dead Battery, Cant get unit to power up. $40 TRS-80 Color Computer with original owners manuals, joysticks, tape player, software carts. All of it for $50 dollars 4 Apple Disk II Drives $25 each- may need cleaning Apple //c System with AC Adapter and external 5.25 drive $30 + shipping Tandy SL386 w/ 486 upgrade 4MB RAM 80MB HDD $20 AST Advantage Adventure 486/33 with 66mhz overdrive 16MB RAM, 170MB HDD, SoundBlaster 16 w/ IDE and CD-ROM installed $40 Tandy 486 Desktop, SCSI Card 8MB RAM, 250mb HDD $30- Powers on but doesnt POST 8 G3 All in One Molar Macs $20 dollars each- Will not ship these monsters as they weigh 60lbs each- These will have to be recycled if they arent taken soon enough 20 Mac LC 575 systems $20 dollars each- These are also recycle bound 10 Power Mac 5500s $20 each These are also recycle bound Apple ADB Mice $5 dollars each- I have 80 of them Apple //e 80/Col RGB Card made by Taxan $20 Kaypro 2 Nice original System, original owners manuals, system disks and software works fine- Never use it $150 Kaypro IV Plus 88 $40 Commodore SX64- Great condition fully functional, Owners Manual and original disks and carry bag included $175 1 Mac 512k for parts- Powers on, missing Floppy Drive $40 ROM 00 IIGS CPU $20 Will have more as I clean out my closets and shed in the future Steve Landon Flushing MI

14 years, 4 months

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History of the Supercomputer & Jack Tramiel passed away

by c.murray.mccullough＠gmail.com

>From the earliest history of the computer the innovators and engineers talked about licensing, patents and who did what & when. What has changed? Should we be surprised that Jack Tramiel ?acted? the way he did and not necessarily in a bad way; that the supercomputer?s origins is in dispute! The historical origins, in some fashion, can be found in ?Turing Cathedral: The origins of the digital universe? by George Dyson. It tells us why we had the vintage computer era - this can be found in my book, ?A Historical Research Guide to the Microcomputer.? (Shameful plug here!) - and what has evolved since. Murray--

14 years, 4 months

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Minivac 6010

by brian＠ptubes.com

Hi -- friends of mine found an intact, in-box Minivac 6010 with manuals and wires etc in their mother's closet in Ohio. Just as a FYI for them, any info on valuation? I see virtually no trades of these in Google searches. tanks Brian

14 years, 4 months

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Register competition

by lproven＠gmail.com

This should be easy for the assembled, I reckon. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/14/reg_picture_puzzler/ I'm not entering myself - although I'm not an employee, I write for them. -- Liam Proven ? Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lproven at cix.co.uk ? GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lproven at hotmail.com ? Skype/AIM/Yahoo/LinkedIn: liamproven Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 ? Cell: +44 7939-087884

14 years, 4 months

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Commodore PET 2001 Video Problem

by wheagy＠gmail.com

On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Dave Caroline <dave.thearchivist at gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Win Heagy <wheagy at gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I recently picked up a PET 2001-8. ?It has a video issue...see >> http://imgur.com/PKc97 ?(disregard the black diagonal scan lines...digital >> camera artifact). > 2 The processor cannot write to the video ram (and therefore clear it) >>>That's also a distinct possibility. >>>Which version of Static PET do you have? They came with different >>>types of ROM and RAM (the schematics for all three variations are >>>posted on zimmers.net). Main memory and video memory use the same >>>chips, 1Kx4 in pairs. You need two working chips for video memory at >>>at least 4 working chips for main memory (the first 1K is taken up >>>with zero page variables, stack, and tape buffers). 2114 SRAMs are >>>notoriously suspect, but 6550s can fail too. Is it possible to tell the version by looking at the board? I posted a pic at http://imgur.com/3aeiL >>>Before worrying about RAMs, check your Vcc... there are 4 regulators >>>and 4 legs of +5VDC. If you've lost one, obviously, it will act >>>strange. I checked the 4 regulators and they are all outputting +5VDC. The most deviation I saw was +4.94VDC. Thanks...Win

14 years, 4 months

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Web server running on RSX-11M-PLUS

by bqt＠softjar.se

Ok. I just thought I'd stir some interest and just general noise by announcing that I've written a small web-server running under RSX. It's written in BASIC+2, and uses the TCP/IP stack for RSX that I've also written. There are probably a bunch of bugs and issues still around, so I'm happy to take any bug reports, comments or whatever. The url is http://madame.update.uu.se/, and if anyone is curious about the code, it's at mim.update.uu.se (same machine, other IP), under MIM::DU:[HTTPD]WWW.B2S (also on HECnet) If people have any interest in this stuff, or something else/more, I'm interested in hearing about it. The TCP/IP stack will eventually (soon) be available for others to download and use, and apart from the web server, I've also written a telnet client, and a few small services under TCP, as well as some tools for administration. I have some polishing to do, I need to finish a DNS resolved, and I'd like to also finish FTP and a telnet server, but I might be open to distributing things before I've finished all those things, especially if someone is interested in helping writing stuff. I have interfaces completed for BASIC+2, PDP-11 C, Macro-11. FORTRAN 77 should also work, but I haven't tried it yet. This all runs under RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6, but I think it should be possible to get running under almost any M+ version, but there might be some hacking needed for some versions. It will not work under 11M, and I never expect it to. One or two drivers as well as one or two tools really are big enough that I need to use the split I/D space feature in M+. Rewriting stuff to not need that is way too much work. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

14 years, 4 months

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Spring cleaning Computer sale

by slandon＠centurylink.net

Cleaning out guys.. I got the following that needs homes- All prices are plus shipping or Local Pickup from Flushing Michigan 48433. Folks who do local pickup at my door get an even better deal. Mac 512- Pretty Yellow missing floppy drive. Powers up to ? $30 dollars + Shipping 2 Quadra 610s 1 a 610CD, other a Regular 610.. 8MB RAM in both 80 and 160MB HDDs $20 each plus shipping Power Macintosh 6500/275 32MB RAM 2GB HDD. Has TV/Video System with TV/Video System box, TV Tuner and Remote $40 Power Mac 8500/180 16MB RAM 1GB HDD $30 WorkGroup Server 8550 16MB RAM No HDDs or tape drive $20 Macintosh Plus- No keyboard or mouse.. Powers up, then drops to a white line in screen $20 Tandy 486/33 system.. DX266 OverDrive in it. SCSI CD-ROM, SCSI Card, 1GB HDD $30 AST Advantage Adventure 4/33p 16MB RAM 170MB HDD, SB16, CD-ROM. $30 dollars Apple Disk II Drives $20 each Apple 800k External 3.5 Drives $20 each Apple Extended Keyboard IIs- Lots of em $10 each Dayna BlueStreak 10/100 LC Ethernet Cards New In Box $15 each 20 Apple IIGS RGB Monitors $25 each plus shipping 10 Apple Monitor //s $25 each plus shipping 10 Apple //e Systems $20 each without drives & monitor Toshiba Satellite 220CDS- 133mhz Pentium 32MB RAM 1.2GB HDD No ac adapter, comes with spare machine that needs backlight- $30 Toshiba Satellite 330CDS 266mhz Pentium 80MB RAM 4GB HDD, Ethernet Card $50 Zenith 9 inch Green Screen monitor- works Composite input. $10 dollars Tandy 1400HD Laptop.. Will not power up.. Comes with AC Adapter which tested good Radio Shack TRS-80 Color Computer 1 with original owners manuals, cassette player and software $50 dollars Gateway Solo 9500 Laptop- Has AC adapter, 64MB RAM 30GB HDD- Real Serial Port, Floppy Drive and parallel port and usb $20 50 40GB IDE Hard drives $5 dollars each plus shipping 9 80GB IDE Hard Drives $10 dollars each plus shipping I have a storage unit full as well.. Everything from Molar Macs, to Apple //e's to compact macs. Shoot me an email and lets make a deal so I can have my living room back :P Steve Landon Flushing Michigan- Which is 15 mins northwest of Flint Michigan

14 years, 4 months

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Web server running on RSX-11M-PLUS

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-04-16 02:04, David Riley<fraveydank at gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 14, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > >> > On 2012-04-13 19:00, "Zane H. Healy"<healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: >>> >> Not sure why I didn't see the original. I have to agree, this is >>> >> *VERY* cool, as I suspect very few hobbyists have access to a TCP >>> >> stack for RSX-11M+ at this point! This is also the first I've heard >>> >> of a web server hosted on a PDP-11 running on something other than >>> >> RT-11. >>> >> >>> >> Are you targeting a specific Ethernet interface? >> > >> > Nope. Works fine on both Q-bus and Unibus machines. However, with Q-bus, you need DECnet for now, for the Ethernet interface, while for Unibus you can either go with DECnet, or else the supplied Ethernet driver in the system. >> > >> > And yeah, I have only seen the RT-11 webserver up until now. >> > >> > More to come... > Yes, this is super-exciting! Now, when you mentioned it was too big > for non-split I&D, was that the whole web task + IP stack, or was the > stack alone too big? I have an 11/23 (I also don't have enough RAM > to run RSX-11M+, but that's a little more easily rectified). Unfortunately it's specific bits of the stack that are too large. If it had been the combination, then it would not have been a problem. RSX don't have a problem with several tasks combined using plenty of memory. It is individual bits that are limited to 64K. And actually, the story goes on a little further. To make a long story short, a device driver in RSX is normally limited to 4 KW. You can extend that to 8KW by a little fiddling. Unfortunately, my TCP driver needs more than 4KW of instruction space, and then 4 KW of data space as well, which is the problem. In M+, I can handle this, since I- and D-space are separate, so the TCP driver works with just a little fiddling. In 11M, I would have to do some serious rewriting and possibly manual overlaying in order to make it work. It is possible, and there are some device drivers that actually do this kind of stuff (most notably the terminal device driver). But it is a rather complex task to fix. And it is actually only the TCP driver that is the problem. Evert other component fits withing the existing address space allowed even with split I- and D-space. But then again, the TCP code is the most complex piece... Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

14 years, 4 months

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Web server running on RSX-11M-PLUS

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-04-13 19:00, "Zane H. Healy"<healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote: > Not sure why I didn't see the original. I have to agree, this is > *VERY* cool, as I suspect very few hobbyists have access to a TCP > stack for RSX-11M+ at this point! This is also the first I've heard > of a web server hosted on a PDP-11 running on something other than > RT-11. > > Are you targeting a specific Ethernet interface? Nope. Works fine on both Q-bus and Unibus machines. However, with Q-bus, you need DECnet for now, for the Ethernet interface, while for Unibus you can either go with DECnet, or else the supplied Ethernet driver in the system. And yeah, I have only seen the RT-11 webserver up until now. More to come... Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

14 years, 4 months

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ZX-Spectrum in the U.S.

by alhartman＠yahoo.com

I worked for Zebra Systems, Inc. in Woodhaven NY which was one of the main Timex/Sinclair mail order houses. My memory of the story is that Timex submitted a Spectrum with an NTSC RF Modulator to the FCC and it failed the approval process. They then redesigned the Spectrum to meet FCC standards, and while they were at it, added new features they felt the American market needed. That resulted in the TS-2068 Computer. I have one of the prototype North American Spectrum units, as well as an Interface One and Cartridge drive. Al Hartman Keansburg, NJ

14 years, 4 months

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Nice Sinclair Spectrum story

by legalize＠xmission.com

I love this album and had no idea there was a spectrum tie-in; apparently that was only done for the UK edition? <http://www.headen.com/XL1.htm> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 version available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

14 years, 4 months

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The Terminals Wiki

by legalize＠xmission.com

The Terminals Wiki is open for public browsing! <http://terminals.classiccmp.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page> This is a joint project between myself (username Legalize), Jason T (username Silent700) and Ian Primus (username Sark). I am the wiki administrator. My intention was to create a single reference site for everything we can find about terminals. Right now, account creation is by request only, but I will open it up for more public editing gradually over time (I am mostly concerned about spambots, I don't want this wiki to become a spam ghetto like so many others). I'm trying to make this an authoritative source, not just a hodge-podge of unsubstantiated opinions. To that end, everything I've put into the wiki so far is sourced from technical documentation (linked to manx and bitsavers and other sources) or from periodicals on Google books like Computerworld, InfoWorld, Network World, PC Mag, etc. Obviously there is tons more information that could be added and that will happen over time, but there is enough there now to be useful in looking up weird terminals that you might encounter in the wild. One nice thing about Google books is that they index the advertising as much as they index the articles. I'm not sure that traditional search databases like Nexus/Lexus do that. It has meant that I have been able to find lots of information on terminals through advertising, including some technical specifications and photos. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 version available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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Commodore PET 2001 Video Problem

by wheagy＠gmail.com

Hi, I recently picked up a PET 2001-8. It has a video issue...see http://imgur.com/PKc97 (disregard the black diagonal scan lines...digital camera artifact). I seem to remember reading something about a similar issue, but Google is not returning anything. Does anyone have any leads or ideas? Thanks, Win

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KryoFlux and Commodore Disks

by cb＠kryoflux.com

On 13 Apr 2012, at 16:43, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: >> > I mean make KryoFlux do what it was designed to do. Whatever that is. I > assume make perfect images of disks. > KryoFlux was designed to deliver unaltered flux data off floppy disks, making it possible to get the lowest read possible. Certain drives or devices, like the 1541, won't spit out what's on the platter, but interpreted data. This means such data can usually be used (if transferred right) for emulation, but it's usually impossible to write back as copy protection mechanisms usually come with ambiguity or other methods that make it impossible to write such data back to disks. On top of that the 1541 can't read the index, which some protections make use of - when creating a disk. By reading a start mark on track A and then stepping to track B you can try and read a required sequence of data that will be impossible to: a) read in emulation, unless you tweak the data read and spin it around the virtual index as long as it matches. The reason is you don't know which stepping the drive does when reading the disk at the time you image the disk. b) write back to disk, unless you have some aid, e.g. a drive equipped with an index so you can time your writes. There are other things that read back differently (=unaltered or mostly unaltered) through a normal drive. To fully make use of KryoFlux you will a HD 5.25" floppy drive equipped with a -8 stepping mod so you can read flippy floppy disks. If you go for the more hobbyist approach, you can as well add a fake index mod, and read the flip side with wrong index data. Here's some more things to read about the problem: http://forum.kryoflux.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3#p1991 This video explains how to mod a drive... Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcqluH7dEj4 Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGxPGavShcE Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW65ynGGiFk >> Do you want access to the contents of the files, or are you archiving >> them? > > I want to know how to use KryoFlux and make it work with Commodore 1541 > floppies. As said above, you need a HD 5.25" drive, which usually needs to be modded. Unless you would want to cut open your disk jackets, remove the platter and place it in a jacket with two index holes. At the moment, KryoFlux will dump C64 disks as .D64 and .D64 with errormap which will allow for using simple protections. More advanced stuff will need .G64 or ultimately .IPF files. .G64 support is being added as I write these lines. Enjoy. Christian Bartsch | KryoFlux Products & Services Limited cb at kryoflux.com | www.kryoflux.com 80 Allington Way | Maidstone | ME16 0HN | United Kingdom Incorporation at Companies House, Cardiff, Company No. 07370567 Directors: Richard Rayner, Christian Bartsch

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Web server running on RSX-11M-PLUS

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-04-14 00:11, "E. Groenenberg"<quapla at xs4all.nl> wrote: > Wow, very nice! > > Makes me to get more energy in getting the 11/70 running again. Please do. All running PDP-11s are nice! > I for one would definitely like to see the ftp& telnet server > parts. Being able to connect to, from and between 2 machines running > RSX would be a major feature for this O.S. Yes. And that will come. And it will be better than TCPware, or other implementations out there. I have some nice ideas... > Sure, there is/was TCPWare and I had a demo key, but the tk50 media > got damaged making that a dead end. I think the image for TCPware is possible to find on the net. And if you have a key, then that problem is also solved... > Just wondering, how 'big' is the http task? Small. 40 disk blocks. The memory requirements are about 5KW of instruction and 5KW of data. But it does use the supervisor RMS library, and the resident BASIC+2 library, so that memory is in addition. I'm working on some more tweaks to this, which might grow it a little more, but it's pretty cool already. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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Web server running on RSX-11M-PLUS

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2012-04-13 16:43, "Rod Smallwood"<rodsmallwood at btconnect.com> wrote: > Sub zero cool! > What's the hardware? MIM (which is also MADAME) is actually an emulated PDP-11/74 running under E11. Bog standard PC otherwise. But I'm also running this on a real 11/93 at home, but that machine don't have a public IP address. Johnny > > Regards > ? > Rod Smallwood > ? > ? > > -----Original Message----- > From:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org] > On Behalf Of Johnny Billquist > Sent: 13 April 2012 13:40 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Web server running on RSX-11M-PLUS > > Ok. I just thought I'd stir some interest and just general noise by > announcing that I've written a small web-server running under RSX. > It's written in BASIC+2, and uses the TCP/IP stack for RSX that I've > also written. There are probably a bunch of bugs and issues still > around, so I'm happy to take any bug reports, comments or whatever. > > The url ishttp://madame.update.uu.se/, and if anyone is curious about > the code, it's at mim.update.uu.se (same machine, other IP), under > MIM::DU:[HTTPD]WWW.B2S (also on HECnet) > > If people have any interest in this stuff, or something else/more, I'm > interested in hearing about it. The TCP/IP stack will eventually (soon) > be available for others to download and use, and apart from the web > server, I've also written a telnet client, and a few small services > under TCP, as well as some tools for administration. I have some > polishing to do, I need to finish a DNS resolved, and I'd like to also > finish FTP and a telnet server, but I might be open to distributing > things before I've finished all those things, especially if someone is > interested in helping writing stuff. > > I have interfaces completed for BASIC+2, PDP-11 C, Macro-11. FORTRAN 77 > should also work, but I haven't tried it yet. > > This all runs under RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6, but I think it should be possible > to get running under almost any M+ version, but there might be some > hacking needed for some versions. > It will not work under 11M, and I never expect it to. One or two drivers > as well as one or two tools really are big enough that I need to use the > split I/D space feature in M+. Rewriting stuff to not need that is way > too much work. > > Johnny > > -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: > bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay > hip" - B. Idol -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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BEYOND RARE!

by witchy＠binarydinosaurs.co.uk

Folks, I presume we've all seen this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160781780426+ Prototype Mac 128k with a twiggy drive... -- Adrian/Witchy Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer collection?

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Last chance for the Free TRS80 Magazines And Books

by slandon＠centurylink.net

Guys Last chance on this TRS-80 Magazines and books, enough to fill the back of a small car. Its free if you come to my door to get it, Otherwise its headed to the trash monday. Steve Landon Flushing MI

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ADB-to-USB adapter

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

Is anyone here aware of a gizmo that will let me plug a USB mouse into an ADB socket? I'm trying to come up with a way to shoehorn modern optical mouse guts into a classic Macintosh mouse. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

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Semi-OT: Photochop question for a vintage image!

by evan＠snarc.net

Hello, especially to people on the west coast -- because it's 2:16AM ET right now -- I've got a vintage computer image that for which I need some GIMP or Photoshop assistance; any experts out there tonight? If so, then please email me directly, or better yet call me -- 646-546-9999 -- I'll be up until about midnight PT / 3am ET. Thanks!! - Evan

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CP/M directory entries

by jules.richardson99＠gmail.com

Is there any kind of sensible maximum limit for the number of directory entries that a CP/M disk may contain? Or did every vendor just do their own thing (probably!) and it's preferable to just keep parsing from the start of the directory area until either the end of the media is reached, or a location identified as file data by a previous entry is encountered? And, related to that, if the directory area of a CP/M disk spans multiple tracks, was there a standard for whether it iterated head-first (in the event of media with multiple heads) or cylinder-first? Or does code have to cope with both possibilities? I'm just pulling some data off some QX-10 floppies (none of which seem to take up more than a track for the directory area), but it seems like a good idea to make it as generic as possible. cheers Jules

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KryoFlux and Commodore Disks

by cb＠kryoflux.com

On 14 Apr 2012, at 00:11, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > If "flippies" are the only problem, . . . > There IS enough flexibility and slack in the jacket to be able to > CAREFULLY punch the other jacket holes (one on each side) without > disassembly, using a very ordinary handheld hole punch. My first retail > product "Berkeley Microcomputer Flip-Jig" was a plexiglass pocket jig for > marking the positions of where to punch. The "deluxe" version, and the > 8" versions, also had a jig for installing center hole re-inforcers. Fred, yes, the index hole is the only real problem. Tell a collector to punch his disks and then start running... :-) Good luck. Christian Bartsch | KryoFlux Products & Services Limited cb at kryoflux.com | www.kryoflux.com 80 Allington Way | Maidstone | ME16 0HN | United Kingdom Incorporation at Companies House, Cardiff, Company No. 07370567 Directors: Richard Rayner, Christian Bartsch

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The History of SuperComputers

by christian_liendo＠yahoo.com

I know someone will be interested in this article http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/125271-the-history-of-supercomputers

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KryoFlux and Commodore Disks

by arkaxow＠gmail.com

Hello All, I was considering buying KryoFlux to read and write Commodore disks. Has anyone done this ? From what I gather you just get the board and you can get the floppy cable and a power supply and power cord. But you need to buy a HD PC floppy drive and then can read the Commodore disks. That is Commodore 1541 disks. Does this sound right ? Jeffrey Brace

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ebay: Tektronix 8540, 8560 emulator w/manuals, probes, etc.

by legalize＠xmission.com

FYI... <http://www.ebay.com/itm/260999371487> If you've been looking for this stuff, now is your chance... -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 version available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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VMS Problem, please help..

by cctech＠beyondthepale.ie

> >The mms default call to cc is like this: >cc /def=("FEAT_NORMAL","HAVE_CONFIG_H","FEAT_GUI_MOTIF" ) /opt/prefix=all >/include=([.proto],decw$include:) BUFFER.C > Hopefully, it should be possible to get MMS to not optimise when compiling blowfish.c and sha256.c and to optimise when doing the other compilations. I am not familiar enough with MMS to know how to do this. Alternatively, if you compile the two files involved outside of MMS, you will also need to perform the link step afterwards. > >Interestingls help cc/opt onli has those documented options: > >CC > > /OPTIMIZE > > /OPTIMIZE[=option] (D) > /NOOPTIMIZE > > Controls whether or not the compiler performs code optimization. > /OPTIMIZE has the following options: > > [NO]DISJOINT Directs the compiler to optimize the generated > machine code. > > [NO]INLINE Specifies whether the compiler is allowed to perform > the function inline optimization. > >So my question is, what should /opt/prefix=all so in this case? > /prefix=all is not related to optimisation - the author has just put the two qualifiers next to each other. /prefix=all directs the compiler add the prefix "decc$" in front of the names of all runtime library functions. I have tested further and it appears that /optimise=disjoint is triggering the problem. > >Yes, I have compiled the entire source with the crypto features commented >out, and yes I can compile blowfish.c with that cmdline: > >$ cc /def=("FEAT_NORMAL","HAVE_CONFIG_H","FEAT_GUI_MOTIF" ) /NOOPT >/include=([.proto],decw$include:) BLOWFISH.C > >..and it compiles sha256.c too. > Great. You may need to compile them with /prefix=all added to the command line if problems show up with names of runtime library functions at link time. However, I suspect that /prefix=all is probably the default anyway. You should be able to use a command line like: $ cc /def=("FEAT_NORMAL","HAVE_CONFIG_H","FEAT_GUI_MOTIF" ) /prefix=all /include=([.proto],decw$include:) /optimise=(inline,nodisjoint) BLOWFISH.C > >Is there further documentation about the compiler optimizations somwhere >available? > There could be slightly more detail about optimisation in the compiler manual but it is highly unlightly that the manual would list additional command line qualifiers that are not documented in the online help. The online help comes with the compiler and normally documents all the available qualifiers. The alpha (and presumably ia64) compilers are quite different to the VAX compilers internally and may have different options relating to optimisation so it is important to consult the correct manual. Regards, Peter Coghlan.

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IBM 026 in episode of Bones

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

I don't recommend watching this (typical network TV acting and feeble storyline) but it does feature my IBM 026 at the 17:00 mark: http://www.hulu.com/watch/318646/bones-the-crack-in-the-code Here is my baby: http://www.vintage.org/gallery.php?grouptag=IBM026 It works (thanks to the old farts who restored the IBM 1401 at the Computer History Museum). -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

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Help identifying Mystery CDC Terminal...

by benylin＠hotmail.com

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://yahozna.dyndns.org/ computers/cdcterminal/CIMG1330.JPG&imgrefurl=http:// www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2008-February/ 052537.html&usg=__1fV1PKo3sAiJ9Wg7Uo9Hi8yipYU=&h=1728&w=2304&sz=1734&hl= en&start=28&zoom=1&tbnid=qPJXAYIkwqa- cM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&ei=oEOGT67UIenj0QGehIz6Bw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dcdc %2Bterminal%26start%3D21%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbm%3Disch%26prmd% 3Divnsfd&itbs=1 it's a VUCOM 1 made by CDC ok,the post is a few years old but hey...you've posted one of the rare photo of a VUCOM 1 online !... if you have found more info on it,let me know,I've got one home. JF

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Complete Apple IIGS for Sale With SCSI Card & Hard Drive

by slandon＠centurylink.net

Got a nice complete Apple IIGS for sale 2 3.5 drives Has a 40MB CMS SCSI Hard Drive and SCSI Card- Will include a 1GB bare drive so you can add more space 1MB RAM Expansion Card AE SonicBlaster SoundCard Included will be GS/OS System 6 on Disk so you can set the system up to your specifications. $200 dollars + Shipping or come pick it up. Thanks Steve

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Commodore 1591 roms

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

Does anyone here know anything about the ROMs to the Commodore 1591 floppy drive? The ROM from this prototype was supposedly dumped and sent on to ftp.funet.fi, but it's not there. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

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ebay: Tektronix 8540, 8560 emulator w/manuals, probes, etc.

by jonas＠otter.se

On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:25:19 -0600, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote: > FYI... > <http://www.ebay.com/itm/260999371487> > > If you've been looking for this stuff, now is your chance... Wow, what a collection! And a Trigger Trace Analyzer, we had one, an expensive option IIRC, a logic analyzer built in to a board in the 8540 reading the emulated processor's signals and states directly. 4 separate triggers IIRC which could be interconnected in all sorts of ways by operating system commands. IIRC the 8540 is based on a rather unusual processor, Signetics 2650. /Jonas

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Commodore 64 conversion from NTSC to PAL

by arkaxow＠gmail.com

Does anyone have experience converting a Commodore 64 from NTSC to PAL ? Jeffrey Brace

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Micro-PROLOG

by spectre＠floodgap.com

Looking for any version of Micro-PROLOG by LPA. This was a modified version of Prolog for small systems and was most notable for translating the typical Horn clause into an almost Lisp-like syntax, but could still do a surprising amount of the language within limitations of the host computer. There were versions for Z80, 8086 and 6502, and possibly others. 6502 preferred but any version, especially with source code, appreciated. -- ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser at floodgap.com -- FORTUNE: You're wise, but not wise enough not to read this sort of drivel. -

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Old days of the Amiga

by jfoust＠threedee.com

Here's a dump of pictures from the early days of the Amiga... the first public developer's conference, a CES, a show in San Francisco, the first AmiExpo in New York... https://plus.google.com/photos/117735836648635794619/albums/573016527192731… - John

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commodore sx64 keyboard cable idea

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

I got the weird idea that the odd keyboard cable hood for the Commodore sx64 could be made out of wood fairly simply. Is there anyone here who is good at woodworking who'd be interested in doing some tinkering with me? -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

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RD53 Disk Not Rotating

by cctech＠beyondthepale.ie

> >When, like me, you don't know a lot about electronics beyond some >theoretical study as a student many years ago, it is especially satisfying >to make a repair like this. > I have a degree in electronic engineering. However it didn't help very much repairing old computer equipment. I had to figure out how to do that for myself from resources such as this list. > >With regard to your doorstops, if they are RD5x disks then I would be more >than happy to take them off your hands :-) Alternatively, I can share what >little I know about getting them working again (mainly RD53). > None of them started out as RDxx disks. Many were from a skip (dumpster) outside a closed PC repair shop. Others were pulls from old PCs that were being dumped at work. Some never worked but others worked well enough for me to format them using a VAX 2000 and gave reasonable service for a while before giving up with various problems. Regards, Peter Coghlan.

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Camtec jnt pad

by dave_rowland＠btinternet.com

Hi Does anyone have info on the jnt pad. We have one here at the museum but dont have docs. Looks like it works but not found a console access yet. Thanks Dave -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

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Jack Tramiel passed away

by rachael＠telefisk.org

And another father of beloved machines has passed into silicon heaven. http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2012/04/09/computer-legend-and-gamin… -- Jacob Dahl Pind | telefisk.org | fidonet 2:230/38.8

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Recognising old ?IBM modules

by peter＠vanpeborgh.eu

Guys, look at the picture in this eBay item.: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260976748947?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p39… Anyone tell me what computer these modules belonged to? Many thaks, peter vp || | | | | | | | | Peter Van Peborgh 62 St Mary's Rise Writhlington Radstock Somerset BA3 3PD UK 01761 439 234 || | | | | | | | |

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archives of Tandy manuals

by dgriffi＠cs.csubak.edu

I seem to recall bitsavers.org keeping old Tandy manuals, but I must have been mistaken or something changed. Who collects these? I just now noticed that the scans I made of the TRS-80 PT-210 user and service manuals are nowhere to be found through Google. -- David Griffith dgriffi at cs.csubak.edu A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

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GAL fusemaps (16V8)

by cclist＠sydex.com

I've received reports that Lattice GAL16V8D's don't program correctly when fed National GAL16V8 JEDEC fusemaps. Has anyone else run into this? I mean to dig into this, but if anyone knows off the top of the head, it'd save some work. EQN2JED was used as the assembler in both cases. I'm going to try CUPL and see if the results are the same. --Chuck

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HP-UX 10.20 B4474FA Netstation Software Codeword?

by glen.slick＠gmail.com

I recently acquired an HP Envizex II Netstation X-Terminal which I would like to try out. I have a base HP-UX 10.20 OS running on an HP B160L and I have an original set of HP-UX 10.20 install media CDs, but apparently a Codeword is necessary to install the B4474FA HP Netstation Software from the CD. I don't have any Codewords for this set of install media CDs. Is there any way to obtain a Codeword to install the Netstation Software from the HP-UX 10.20 install media that I have? http://www.hp.com/softwarereleases/releases-media2/media/3710366.htm HP9000 Series 9000/700 HP-UX Application Software CD Part Number - B3782-10366 B4474FA, HP Netstation Software, Codeword Required: Yes, Size: 115622777 -Glen

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New release of IBM 360/30 code for Digilent Spartan 3

by lawrence＠ljw.me.uk

Having finally got back onto this project a few months ago, I have prepared another release of the code from my IBM 360/30 emulation project for the Digilent Xilinx Spartan 3 board. The main differences from the previous release are: * 64k storage in external static RAM * 1050 Console typewriter/keyboard implemented using the serial port * Main storage initialisation from a file stored in the flash rom (This can be generated from a Hercules PCH file) * Lots of little bug fixes The main limitation is that the 1050 is the only peripheral available. There is a known bug: The first character output by the 1050 on each SIO is duplicated. There are probably lots more hiding. Everything is available at http://www.ljw.me.uk/ibm360/vhdl/ Future tasks: Implement printers/readers/punches via multiplexor channel Implement tapes/DASD via selector channel and flash disk -- Lawrence Wilkinson lawrence at ljw.me.uk The IBM 360/30 page http://www.ljw.me.uk/ibm360

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RD53 Disk Not Rotating

by cctech＠beyondthepale.ie

> >Just in case anyone is interested, replacing the failed Darlington >transistor fixed the problem. The RD53 now spins the disk again. Thanks to >everyone who helped. > Some people enjoy repairing things. I find it a bit of a drudge. What I enjoy is the feeling of satisfaction when a repair succeeds :-) Well done to all involved. I am now looking with renewed interest at my pile of doorstops which once spun. Regards, Peter Coghlan.

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RD53 Disk Not Rotating

by robert.jarratt＠ntlworld.com

I acquired an RD53 disk recently. I have just been trying it out. The heads were stuck, as usual, but the main thing is that the disk itself will not rotate. The locking mechanism that keeps the heads parked releases on power up but that is all that happens. I have not come across this particular kind of failure before, does anyone have any suggestions for common causes of this kind of failure? Regards Rob

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The Terminals Wiki

by cctech＠beyondthepale.ie

> >The Terminals Wiki is open for public browsing! ><http://terminals.classiccmp.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page> > >This is a joint project between myself (username Legalize), >Jason T (username Silent700) and Ian Primus (username Sark). >I am the wiki administrator. > >My intention was to create a single reference site for everything we >can find about terminals. > Well done - this looks like it will be a useful reference point. I have a user guide for an ICL model 6402 Character Display Terminal which I used in 1988. It may be compatible with a Televideo 950 (or maybe 925). I only used it as a fairly basic terminal but IIRC it seemed to have an endless number of features that I never felt the need to use. I only have the manual, not the terminal. If someone has the terminal and not the manual, I would be happy to give them the manual or scan it for them. I am looking for a maintenance manual for a Lear Siegler ADM-5. I found the manual for the ADM-3A on bitsavers (thanks Al!) and this helped me to fix one of my ADM-5 terminals but my other one has a fault that I think is in an area with significant differences to the ADM-3A. Regards, Peter Coghlan.

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Terminals Wiki needs an IBM terminals expert

by legalize＠xmission.com

Frankly, IBM terminal land is completely unknown to me. I am looking for a volunteer to contribute information about terminals from IBM and other manufacturers that were intended for the IBM mainframe world. Let me know if you're interested! The pay is nonexistent and it's entirely a labor of love on your part, but I think we're off to a good start. However, the wiki is almost completely lacking on IBM mainframe type terminals. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 version available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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Camtec jnt pad

by cctech＠beyondthepale.ie

> >Its a X25 Packet/Assembler/Dissasembler. It allows ordinary Async >Terminals to be connected to an X.25 network. In the UK all Universities >had such networks under the umbrella of JANET. Some at Janet probably >has a manual. I have forgotten almost every thing I know about them. I >have asked one of my former colleagues if he has any info. > These were also to be found in Irish Universities where early networking was also X.25 based. I have a small stash of X.25 capable kit which I have no real interest in. It is available for free to anyone interested and is located in Dublin, Ireland. I would prefer collection but will consider shipping if someone is really keen. Among the bits and pieces are two Satelcom X.25 switches. Both are marked MegaPAC E but they are different sizes. Also a DEC DEMSA and two DEMSB X.25 routers (manufactured in DEC's former facility in Clonmel, Ireland) and some cables. And the connection with this thread? The DEMSA has a sticker on one of the ports which says "Camtec". Regards, Peter Coghlan.

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cctech Digest, Vol 104, Issue 21

by jonas＠otter.se

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:23:49 +0100, "Rob Jarratt" <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com> wrote: > > I need to replace a transistor in my H7140 PSU for my PDP11/24. The > transistor is marked GPSA55J3 and the printset identifies it as "XA > 55 PNP > 500MW SI 60 50 P", it is in a TO-92 package. I have tried to find > specs for > an A55 and can only find partial matches, so I am not sure what > today's > equivalent would be. Can anyone help me work out what the equivalent > today > would be? > > Thanks > > Rob Sounds like a 60V, 500mW device. BC556, MPSA-56. A BC161 might also work, except it is in a TO-39 case, or a 2N2907 in a TO-18 case. Looking at the printset on vt100.net, none of the A55 transistors appear to be doing anything terribly demanding, so any of the above ought to work. /Jonas

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VMS Problem, please help..

by cctech＠beyondthepale.ie

> >There are orher problems now with that VIM Source, the files blowfish.c and >sha356.c take very very much time to compile. I do have an account on >Vaxmans VAX7000/820 and even on this machine the compiling was not done after >13hrs of CPU Time. SHA356.c behaves pretty much similar. >I'll look later this day if the compiling gets done on this machine, on my >VS4000 the same process is running now for 12hrs on the CPU and the >VS4000/90 isn't the slowest VAX so far as I know... > Well, my curiosity got the better of me. I downloaded VIM73-69 for VMS and attempted to compile blowfish.c on my VAX 4000/100A with VAX/VMS 7.1 and DECC V6.4-005. I don't have MMS or MMK installed so I had to hack a little to make it work. I found that after some seconds work, the compiler went into a CPU bound loop and seemingly did nothing useful after that (unless it is thinking hard and will come up with something useful some time from now!). The source is not large so I was able to find that the part that the compiler was having difficulties with was these two lines of macros in bf_e_block(): F1(0) F2(1) F1(2) F2(3) F1(4) F2(5) F1(6) F2(7) F1(8) F2(9) F1(10) F2(11) F1(12) F2(13) F1(14) F2(15) I found that if I commented out F1(10) F2(11) F1(12) F2(13) F1(14) F2(15) the compile would complete in just under a minute. Next I tried commenting out just F2(11) F1(12) F2(13) F1(14) F2(15) and then the compile completed in around 7 minutes. It took about the same time if I only commented out F1(12) F2(13) F1(14) F2(15). If I commented only F2(13) F1(14) F2(15) the compile took nearly two hours! Finally, it dawned on me to try compiling the original code with /NOOPTIMISE and this completed in 30 seconds! So, it appears that something in those two lines is causing the optimiser to spend way too much time doing something. At least the good news is that if you compile blowfish.c (and perhaps sha356.c) without optimisation, it should be possible to get it done in a reasonable amount of time. Maybe the compile you are currently running will also complete eventually. Regards, Peter Coghlan.

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The Terminals Wiki

by silent700＠gmail.com

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Bill Sudbrink <wh.sudbrink at verizon.net> wrote: > ? Interesting that one of your partners goes by Silent700 > ? but there are no Texas Instruments terminals in your wiki > ? yet. ?If you're interested, I'm going to be bringing one > ? of the last variants of the 700 to VCF East next month to > ? use as a printing terminal on my SWTPc. Yeah yeah.....it's all In the Works, Check's in the Mail, Real Soon Now. Richard probably has more S700s than I do, anyway ;) Seriously, though, Richard has done a ton of work on this, from wrangling his own voluminous collection to deciphering the WikiSpeak necessary to make this a pro job. I look forward to contributing! -j -- (Real Soon Now)

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Multi-node SGI Onyx2 startup help

by jplist2008＠kiwigeek.com

Greetings; Long-story-short, a couple of years ago I picked up six Onyx2 racks and have been moving them around with me without ever actually firing them up. I've finally got myself sorted and have been slowly working through bringing things up and having some successes, but every step closer has me finding a new problem. My set-up right now has one graphics head and five compute nodes cabled together in a daisy-chain (not enough CrayLinks for anything else). It appears all but one of the MMSCs are shot, so I'm doing manual start-ups using the keys. My current confusion is how to nominate which system becomes the Global Master. For some odd reason whenever I bring up three racks the machine I've "picked" as the master (keyboard/mouse/gfx head) comes up just fine and boots into IRIX, but whenever I add two more nodes things get a bit more fuzzy and the Global Master appears to migrate around. I had initially believed that the last rack in the power-up sequence would always become the Global Master, since it goes and finds all the rest, but this apparently is not the case... or perhaps there are corollaries I'm unaware of. The more times I turn this thing on and off the more hardware is failing on me, not unexpectedly. I've lost a PSU, a node board and now one of the racks has started making a worryingly hot-electrical smell. I'd really like to get it all working together just once before I get old and grey. Cheers; - JP

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VMS Problem, please help..

by cctech＠beyondthepale.ie

> >I have cleared this in the meantime with some help of B. Ulmann aka vaxman. >The paging file was much to small, I've diabled swapping and created a >much bigger pagefile.sys (500000 blocks), raised PGFLQUOTA to 130000 blocks >and some other things. The compiling doesn't stop now anymore because of >vm-space outage. > I'm glad the original problem is solved. > >There are orher problems now with that VIM Source, the files blowfish.c and >sha356.c take very very much time to compile. I do have an account on >Vaxmans VAX7000/820 and even on this machine the compiling was not done after >13hrs of CPU Time. SHA356.c behaves pretty much similar. >I'll look later this day if the compiling gets done on this machine, on my >VS4000 the same process is running now for 12hrs on the CPU and the >VS4000/90 isn't the slowest VAX so far as I know... > You can check what the compiler is doing with the command: $ SHOW PROCESS /CONTINUOUS /ID=xxxxxxxx where xxxxxxxx is the process id of the process doing the compile. You can also use MONITOR to see what the whole machine is doing. $ MONITOR MODES will tell you which processor modes are in use most. If it shows mostly user mode, the compile is CPU bound. If it shows mostly kernel mode or interrupt stack, there is an i/o bottleneck. If it shows mostly idle, something is wrong and the compiler is not getting sufficient access to the machines resources. $ MONITOR PROCESSES /TOPCPU should show the compiling process as getting most of the CPU. If something else is getting a significant amount of CPU, there may be something wrong. I've compiled a fair amount of C on my VAX 4000/100A which is also pretty fast and on my VAX 3100 model 76 which is less fast and I don't remember any single source file taking anything like even 1 hour to compile. Are the sources involved particularly large or complex? Does the compile show any signs of making progress (for instance, is the object file or listing file growing in size) or could it be stuck in a loop doing nothing useful? Is there too much detail being logged in the listing file resulting in a huge listing output? You haven't said whether you did an AUTOGEN or not. If you have not, I would suggest doing one as this should help sort out any other system parameters that might be incorrect. > >I'll report later what happens.. > I'd certainly be interested to know what's going on. Regards, Peter Coghlan.

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The Terminals Wiki

by legalize＠xmission.com

In article <06fa01cd1743$79aea9f0$6d0bfdd0$@sudbrink at verizon.net>, "Bill Sudbrink" <wh.sudbrink at verizon.net> writes: > Interesting that one of your partners goes by Silent700 > but there are no Texas Instruments terminals in your wiki > yet. Yes, isn't that interesting? I'll let him defend himself on that point. :-) -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" -- DirectX 9 version available for download <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com/the-direct3d-graphics-pipeline/> Legalize Adulthood! <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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Jack Tramiel passed away

by dm561＠torfree.net

----- Original Message: Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 16:18:16 -0400 From: Keith Monahan <keithvz at verizon.net> To: cctalk at classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Jack Tramiel passed away Message-ID: <4F834408.8020104 at verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 4/9/2012 3:35 PM, David Riley wrote: > On Apr 9, 2012, at 3:06 PM, Keith Monahan wrote: > >> On 4/9/2012 2:29 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: >>> That's a shame. His impact on computing is frequently forgotten these >>> days. >> >> It should probably be noted that Jack was a pretty ruthless business man ----- Reply: Umm, why "should it be noted," especially a few days after his death? Whether it's Bill Gates, Steve Jobs or Jack Tramiel, why do some people feel the need to insult and criticize (especially immediately after their death in the case of the latter two) these people who did what they had to in order to survive and be competitive and make the huge contributions that they did to the field which is a hobby and a vocation for most of us? Being "nice" doesn't usually succeed in a cutthroat field like computer hardware and software; I don't think I'd call Jack "ruthless" but perhaps his time in a concentration camp did give him a stronger sense of what it takes to survive than some people. >> and made decisions that were contrary to a stable and reliable machine >> and accessories. I don't know; all my PETs, VIC20s and all except one C64 are still working as well as when they were new; other than C64 power packs and PALs overheating, what decisions resulted in unreliable and unstable machines and accessories? The drive interface issue you mention was precisely the result of a compromise to make it reliable and stable (albeit slow). >> I hope I'm remembering correctly, but I think the 1541 was a victim of >> Jack Tramiel's rush-to-market engineering. Again, I don't know if Jack was personally responsible, but yes, getting new product "out there" before the competition has always been crucially important and yes, sometimes decisions are made that have repercussions long afterwards due to backward compatibility issues (640Kb oughta be enough for everyone...) In any case, the VIC20/1541 issue created an opportunity for numerous third-parties to market speed-up solutions. Let's give Jack the respect and credit he deserves and let him rest in peace. m

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VMS Problem, please help..

by cctech＠beyondthepale.ie

> >Ok, THX guys, >I've managed to get this thing running again, don't ask me how :-) > It's hard to know how to advise you where to go next when you don't tell us where you are now :-) > >But my first problem, the cause of the fiddling with the system paramaters >persists. > >This is the VIM73-69 source for VMS: > > The adequate command for mmk is: > > mmk /descrip=Make_vms.mms > > NOTE: Because of empty /auto/config.h (needed for Unix configure) >build > will fail with very strange messages. Therefore before building, it is > recommended to make one clean up, to prepare everything for OpenVMS > development. The command is: > > Buffer: INSTALLVMS.TXT | Write | Insert | >Forward > > > >$ mms /descrip=Make_vms.mms > >using DECW/Motif/XPM environment. >creating OS_VMS_MOTIF.OPT file. >cc /def=("FEAT_BIG","HAVE_CONFIG_H","FEAT_GUI_MOTIF","HAVE_XPM" ) >/opt/prefix= >all /include=([.proto],decw$include:) BLOWFISH.C >%CLI-F-TEXT, Compiler abort - virtual memory limits exceeded. >%SYSTEM-F-ABORT, abort >%MMS-F-ABORT, For target BLOWFISH.OBJ, CLI returned abort status: >%X0000002C. >-SYSTEM-F-ABORT, abort >$ > > >I've googled for the error and found this: > >http://www.jcameron.com/vms/em12.htm > >...that was the beginning of the problem. > [snip] > >So what should I do next to try to compile that VIM source (hopefully w/o >to destroying the system again) > That webpage has some good advice. The C compiler installation guide should include details on what SYSGEN parameters and user quotas need to be set to for the compiler to function properly as well as how to set them. If you don't have the installation guide, I would suggest finding out what VIRTUALPAGECNT is now and if it is "small", increase it is smaller steps than previously using AUTOGEN (not using SYSGEN, if that's what was used before). $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$GETSYI("VIRTUALPAGECNT") will tell you what VIRTUALPAGECNT is set to now. Suppose it 64000. You could try adding the line: MIN_VIRTUALPAGECNT=100000 to the bottom of SYS$SYSTEM:MODPARAMS.DAT using the editor. and then use the following command to run AUTOGEN: $ @SYS$UPDATE:AUTOGEN SAVPARAMS SETPARAMS Then review the log files that AUTOGEN says it is producing and if things look good, shut down and reboot. Next, make sure that the userid running the compile has as much page file quota as VIRTUALPAGECNT will allow: $ SET DEFAULT SYS$SYSTEM $ RUN AUTHORIZE MODIFY HOLM /PGFLQUOTA=100000 If the userid is already logged in, be sure to log out and log back in to get the new user quota to take effect. Then retry the compile. If it still fails, check that VIRTUALPAGECNT has indeed been increased as expected and use: $ SHOW PROCESS /QUOTA in the same process as attemtped the compile to see what its pagefile quota is set to. If they are as expected and the compile still fails, try increasing both items some more as per the above procedure. Maybe try 150000 if 100000 is not sufficient. > >The VS4000 has 64 Mbytes of Ram, I think that should be sufficient to >compile something like this, so it seems to me that some quote values are >the problem. > What a process sees is virtual memory, not physical memory. The amount of virtual memory a process can use depends on system parameters such as VIRTUALPAGECNT (and BALSETCNT as pointed out by someone else) and user quotas such as PGFLQUOTA and the size of the page file on disk. The process can end up seeing less memory than physically exists or more memory than physically exists depending on how various system parameters are set and how big the page file is. VMS has lots of parameters to control memory allocation in order to try to avoid just giving processes what they ask for and ending up leaving other more important processes starved for memory when they need it. Regards, Peter Coghlan.

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11/70 bus

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

Does anyone know offhand if it's possible to use the "BCT" slot for an RH70 in the PDP-11/70 backplane as a standard Unibus slot, for, say, an RX211 or something like that? It would seem to be a normal Unibus slot, it even requires that a grant card be installed if that RH70 board set isn't installed. I can dig through the print sets for hours to find this out, but if someone knows offhand I'd appreciate an express clue delivery. Thanks, -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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VCF East update

by evan＠snarc.net

Less than one month to go .... we're up to 21 exhibits, four or five lectures (I forget exactly; adding one more this week), and seven technical workshops. All the details are posted at http://www.vintage.org/2012/east/ and http://www.facebook.com/vcfeast8 .... if ever you considered attending VCF East, then let this be the year!

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What is this Vadic thing ?

by jonas＠otter.se

On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 21:25:47 -0500, Adrian Stoness <tdk.knight at gmail.com> wrote: > whats a scratch monkey? Scratch monkey is from a lab accident where real monkeys were killed owing to diagnostics being run on a computer: http://edp.org/monkey.htm This may or may not be an urban legend /Jonas

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how do you crack (open) a Rainbow mono monitor?

by chrism3667＠yahoo.com

for the purpose of expunging the screen rot. Need to get behind the screen thingee there

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Jack Tramiel dead. :(

by wgungfu＠gmail.com

Guys, just got confirmation from his son Leonard, a friend of mine. I'm sorry to say that Jack passed away yesterday. The man was an immense influence in the consumer electronics/computing industry whose legacy allowed many of us to enjoy years of great memories. My sincerest thoughts goes out to his family in their time of loss. Curt and I were supposed to interview him next week for the book on Atari Corp. Was really excited to get the chance to meet and spend time him. :( -- Marty

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VMS Problem, please help..

by holm＠freibergnet.de

Jonas Otter wrote: > On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 14:30:23 +0200, Holm Tiffe <holm at freibergnet.de> wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I've tried to compile the VIM-7.3 Sources on my freshly installed VS4000, > >and entered a pitfall here. > >Since the C Compiler was complaining that the virtuel memory is exhaustet, > >I'veed the PGFLQUOTA for the user to 104826 and the VIRTUALPAGCNT SYSGEN > >Value to 2097152 (max was displayed as 4194304) > >I've let run autogen and ebooted. > > > >Now the system ewfuses to boot: > > > >%SYSBOOT-W-WS default and quota raised to PHD+MINWSCNT > >%SYSBOOT-F-VASOV, system virtual address space exeeded > >?06 HLT INST > > PC= 00009631 PSL=041F0000 > > From the VMS error messages manual at > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/6023/6023pro_019.html : > > VASOVF, system virtual address space limit exceeded > > > *Facility:*SYSBOOT, System Bootstrap Facility > *Explanation:*The combination of SYSGEN parameters used to specify > various capacities within the operating system have pushed the size of > the operating system address space over the limit allowed by the VAX > architecture. > *User Action:*Reduce one of the parameters (BALSETCNT or VIRTUALPAGECNT > (VAX only)) that contribute to the virtual address space size required > by the OpenVMS system. By using AUTOGEN to set these values for your > system, you avoid selection of parameter combinations that cause system > space to overflow its architectural boundaries. > > To recover, perform a conversational boot (i.e. the boot process will > let you modify system parameters to recover from a situation like > yours). It is described here: > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82final/aa-pv5mj-tk/00/00/34-con.html > > Use the "booting with default system parameters" section. You probably > then need to reduce VIRTUALPAGECNT below the value you have set (which > gives a 2GB virtual address space) because the VAX architecture allows > max. 2 GB virtual memory and you are probably just over the limit. > > The VMS documentation is excellent, you will find it online here: > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/ > > and this is a good manual to start with: > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82FINAL/aa-pv5mj-tk/aa-pv5mj-tk.HTMl > (you will find it from the page above by following the link "OpenVMS > Operating System" to the left. > > /Jonas Ok, THX guys, I've managed to get this thing running again, don't ask me how :-) But my first problem, the cause of the fiddling with the system paramaters persists. This is the VIM73-69 source for VMS: The adequate command for mmk is: mmk /descrip=Make_vms.mms NOTE: Because of empty /auto/config.h (needed for Unix configure) build will fail with very strange messages. Therefore before building, it is recommended to make one clean up, to prepare everything for OpenVMS development. The command is: Buffer: INSTALLVMS.TXT | Write | Insert | Forward $ mms /descrip=Make_vms.mms using DECW/Motif/XPM environment. creating OS_VMS_MOTIF.OPT file. cc /def=("FEAT_BIG","HAVE_CONFIG_H","FEAT_GUI_MOTIF","HAVE_XPM" ) /opt/prefix= all /include=([.proto],decw$include:) BLOWFISH.C %CLI-F-TEXT, Compiler abort - virtual memory limits exceeded. %SYSTEM-F-ABORT, abort %MMS-F-ABORT, For target BLOWFISH.OBJ, CLI returned abort status: %X0000002C. -SYSTEM-F-ABORT, abort $ I've googled for the error and found this: http://www.jcameron.com/vms/em12.htm ...that was the beginning of the problem. $ set proc/priv=all $ r authorize UAF> sh holm Username: HOLM Owner: Holm Tiffe Account: UIC: [200,201] ([HOLM]) CLI: DCL Tables: DCLTABLES Default: DKA0:[HOLM] LGICMD: LOGIN Flags: Primary days: Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Secondary days: Sat Sun No access restrictions Expiration: (none) Pwdminimum: 6 Login Fails: 0 Pwdlifetime: 90 00:00 Pwdchange: 3-APR-2012 20:05 Last Login: 7-APR-2012 11:40 (interactive), 7-APR-2012 11:34 (non-interactive) Maxjobs: 0 Fillm: 300 Bytlm: 32768 Maxacctjobs: 0 Shrfillm: 0 Pbytlm: 0 Maxdetach: 0 BIOlm: 40 JTquota: 4096 Prclm: 2 DIOlm: 40 WSdef: 256 Prio: 4 ASTlm: 100 WSquo: 512 Queprio: 0 TQElm: 40 WSextent: 1024 CPU: (none) Enqlm: 200 Pgflquo: 40960 Authorized Privileges: ACNT ALLSPOOL ALTPRI AUDIT BUGCHK BYPASS CMEXEC CMKRNL IMPERSONATDIAGNOSE DOWNGRADE EXQUOTA GROUP GRPNAM GRPPRV IMPORT LOG_IO MOUNT NETMBX OPER PFNMAP PHY_IO PRMCEB PRMGBL PRMMBX PSWAPM READALL SECURITY SETPRV SHARE SHMEM SYSGBL SYSLCK SYSNAM SYSPRV TMPMBX UPGRADE VOLPRO WORLD Default Privileges: NETMBX TMPMBX UAF> So what should I do next to try to compile that VIM source (hopefully w/o to destroying the system again) The VS4000 has 64 Mbytes of Ram, I think that should be sufficient to compile something like this, so it seems to me that some quote values are the problem. Kind Regards, Holm -- Technik Service u. Handel Tiffe, www.tsht.de, Holm Tiffe, Freiberger Stra?e 42, 09600 Obersch?na, USt-Id: DE253710583 www.tsht.de, info at tsht.de, Fax +49 3731 74200, Mobil: 0172 8790 741

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pdp8 tapes trays core memory ebay auction

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 04/07/2012 01:43 PM, Scott Mickey wrote: > I need someone to educate me as to why this DEC hardware is worth > more than $1K: > eBay auction - > "DEC PDP-8 paper tape software, books and core memory card" > http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320880958746 > At first I thought it was a gag, but then I looked at the number of > bidders and the amounts. Do you know any (for example) classic car enthusiasts? Do you know any of them who have TRULY rare or historically-significant cars? Ask them how much they'd pay for parts, or for entire vehicles. But, I respectfully submit, if you have to ask the question, you wouldn't understand the answer. > I know there are a lot of older fellows out there holding on to their > PDP and VAX hardware because they are quite fond of it. However, at > some point each comes to the conclusion that unless they want to be > buried with their computers, the same as the egyptian pharaohs were > buried with their gold, they need to find a new home for them. > A fellow who was on oxygen and too weak to pick up his computers any > longer kindly give me two fully loaded VAXServer 3400's for free. > A few years later, from another retired gentleman, I received a > VT103 (11/23), VT100, RX02 (dual 8" flop drives), a pair of > CDC 9427H "Hawk" drives (which about KILLED me when I lifted each > one by myself), dozens of floppies, and a dozen 14" rigid platter > disk cartridges. I got all of this for free too. I did pay $100 > for a MicroVAX II, with all original tapes and manuals. It has been > very educational learning all this old hardware and running the > early UNIXes on real hardware (not an emulator). I found all these > people and all of this stuff locally on craigslist. So when I see > bits of DEC paper tape and core memory going for more than $1000, > I am flabbergasted. Completely. Shouldn't this money be staying > in your retirement account? (No offense intended). Why is this > particular stuff so valuable? "I got this amazing, incredible deal once (or even got lucky enough to get such a deal TWICE!), therefore they're all like that." No, I'm sorry, that's not the way it works. You got lucky. Twice. Don't take it for granted. I know people who would skip meals for the hardware you listed. I wouldn't, but there ARE computer-related things I'd skip meals to acquire, with no hesitation. Just like any REAL classic car person...except the car stuff is a lot more common. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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To Rob Jarrett, sorry about posting this publically

by ard＠p850ug1.demon.co.uk

Sorry for psoting this publically, but a private reply to Rob got a bounce 'due to unacceptable content'. OK, I probalby wouldn't talk about soldering iron bits in polite compnay, but I cna think of many worse words to use :-) -tony > > Hello Tony, > > > > If you recall I got a Weller TCP probably just like yours. I have a couple > > of PT-AA8 tips, but they seem a bit too big for working with some of the > > boards I need to work with. > > > > What tips would you recommend for working with the H7140 PSU (and the RD53 > > motor control board)? > > Well I use a PT-AA8 for just about everything. There is a finer one > (PT-O8???) which I use for some SMD work (but a lot of that gets done > with the PT-AA8 actually). > > Certainly it should be OK for the PSU and RD53 boards. > > -tony >

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pdp8 tapes trays core memory ebay auction

by tdk.knight＠gmail.com

indeed http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1291/boxus.jpg http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/9946/atomcomps.jpg http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg717/scaled.php?server=717&filename=atom005… http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg803/scaled.php?server=803&filename=atom004… http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg189/scaled.php?server=189&filename=handboo… http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/228/2dec.jpg http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg842/scaled.php?server=842&filename=boxsx.j… On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Scott Mickey <scott.m.18 at atsgate.com> wrote: > Adrian Stoness wrote: >> i was bidding on it from the start quite strongly . . . > I switched to JBidwatcher recently, as I have always preferred to > bid against the clock, not other people. > http://www.jbidwatcher.com/ > It is a Java app and will run with Solaris or Linux. ?Launch with: > java -Xmx512m -jar JBidwatcher-2.5.jar > Or if you ahve more mainstream hardware, it runs on Windows or OS X. > It's free. ?I have only used it for a couple of auctions so far, > but have found it works well. ?-For what it's worth. > And on your free pdp8a, I think it is true that the free stuff is > often the best. ?Maybe just because of the hardware itself, or > perhaps also because it was given with an unspoken contract that > you are to take care of it. > Scott > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adrian Stoness" <tdk.knight at gmail.com> > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 5:56 PM > Subject: Re: pdp8 tapes trays core memory ebay auction > >>i put a 500$ bid in on that auction didn't expect this and it proly >> shot up that high cause i was biding on it from the start quite >> stronglyv and my bid was based on what i have seen these individual >> items go for so i am kinda shocked >> >> as for freebees i score a free pdp8a my pride n joy of my collection >> and have been aquiring parts for it ever since like rk05's and >> controllors rl02's >> >> as for you talk about freebees mines not as nice as ur stuff but i did >> score a pdp8a with all its software manuals drawings asr33 x2 >> On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Scott Mickey <scott.m.18 at atsgate.com> > wrote: >>> I need someone to educate me as to why this DEC hardware is worth >>> more than $1K: >>> eBay auction - >>> "DEC PDP-8 paper tape software, books and core memory card" >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320880958746 >>> At first I thought it was a gag, but then I looked at the number of >>> bidders and the amounts. >>> I know there are a lot of older fellows out there holding on to their >>> PDP and VAX hardware because they are quite fond of it. However, at >>> some point each comes to the conclusion that unless they want to be >>> buried with their computers, the same as the egyptian pharaohs were >>> buried with their gold, they need to find a new home for them. >>> A fellow who was on oxygen and too weak to pick up his computers any >>> longer kindly give me two fully loaded VAXServer 3400's for free. >>> A few years later, from another retired gentleman, I received a >>> VT103 (11/23), VT100, RX02 (dual 8" flop drives), a pair of >>> CDC 9427H "Hawk" drives (which about KILLED me when I lifted each >>> one by myself), dozens of floppies, and a dozen 14" rigid platter >>> disk cartridges. I got all of this for free too. I did pay $100 >>> for a MicroVAX II, with all original tapes and manuals. It has been >>> very educational learning all this old hardware and running the >>> early UNIXes on real hardware (not an emulator). I found all these >>> people and all of this stuff locally on craigslist. So when I see >>> bits of DEC paper tape and core memory going for more than $1000, >>> I am flabbergasted. Completely. Shouldn't this money be staying >>> in your retirement account? (No offense intended). Why is this >>> particular stuff so valuable? >>> Thank you for your time today. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Adrian Stoness" >>> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" >>> <cctalk at classiccmp.org> >>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 6:19 PM >>> Subject: pdp8 tapes trays core memory ebay auction >>> >>>> i put bid in and went to work at 6am and see this when i get back >>>> 1100 bucks :O >>>> >>> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma= >>> > true&item=320880958746&si=6c9FJZXW%252BgdjnHCVq%252FpYYQ4M3tI%253D&viewitem= >>> &sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBUAA%3ACA%3A3160&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc >>>> > >

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pdp8 tapes trays core memory ebay auction

by scott.m.18＠atsgate.com

Adrian Stoness wrote: > i was bidding on it from the start quite strongly . . . I switched to JBidwatcher recently, as I have always preferred to bid against the clock, not other people. http://www.jbidwatcher.com/ It is a Java app and will run with Solaris or Linux. Launch with: java -Xmx512m -jar JBidwatcher-2.5.jar Or if you ahve more mainstream hardware, it runs on Windows or OS X. It's free. I have only used it for a couple of auctions so far, but have found it works well. -For what it's worth. And on your free pdp8a, I think it is true that the free stuff is often the best. Maybe just because of the hardware itself, or perhaps also because it was given with an unspoken contract that you are to take care of it. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Stoness" <tdk.knight at gmail.com> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2012 5:56 PM Subject: Re: pdp8 tapes trays core memory ebay auction >i put a 500$ bid in on that auction didn't expect this and it proly > shot up that high cause i was biding on it from the start quite > stronglyv and my bid was based on what i have seen these individual > items go for so i am kinda shocked > > as for freebees i score a free pdp8a my pride n joy of my collection > and have been aquiring parts for it ever since like rk05's and > controllors rl02's > > as for you talk about freebees mines not as nice as ur stuff but i did > score a pdp8a with all its software manuals drawings asr33 x2 > On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Scott Mickey <scott.m.18 at atsgate.com> wrote: >> I need someone to educate me as to why this DEC hardware is worth >> more than $1K: >> eBay auction - >> "DEC PDP-8 paper tape software, books and core memory card" >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320880958746 >> At first I thought it was a gag, but then I looked at the number of >> bidders and the amounts. >> I know there are a lot of older fellows out there holding on to their >> PDP and VAX hardware because they are quite fond of it. However, at >> some point each comes to the conclusion that unless they want to be >> buried with their computers, the same as the egyptian pharaohs were >> buried with their gold, they need to find a new home for them. >> A fellow who was on oxygen and too weak to pick up his computers any >> longer kindly give me two fully loaded VAXServer 3400's for free. >> A few years later, from another retired gentleman, I received a >> VT103 (11/23), VT100, RX02 (dual 8" flop drives), a pair of >> CDC 9427H "Hawk" drives (which about KILLED me when I lifted each >> one by myself), dozens of floppies, and a dozen 14" rigid platter >> disk cartridges. I got all of this for free too. I did pay $100 >> for a MicroVAX II, with all original tapes and manuals. It has been >> very educational learning all this old hardware and running the >> early UNIXes on real hardware (not an emulator). I found all these >> people and all of this stuff locally on craigslist. So when I see >> bits of DEC paper tape and core memory going for more than $1000, >> I am flabbergasted. Completely. Shouldn't this money be staying >> in your retirement account? (No offense intended). Why is this >> particular stuff so valuable? >> Thank you for your time today. >> >> Scott >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Adrian Stoness" >> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" >> <cctalk at classiccmp.org> >> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 6:19 PM >> Subject: pdp8 tapes trays core memory ebay auction >> >>> i put bid in and went to work at 6am and see this when i get back >>> 1100 bucks :O >>> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma= >> true&item=320880958746&si=6c9FJZXW%252BgdjnHCVq%252FpYYQ4M3tI%253D&viewitem= >> &sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBUAA%3ACA%3A3160&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc >>>

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pdp8 tapes trays core memory ebay auction

by scott.m.18＠atsgate.com

> On 04/07/2012 01:43 PM, Scott Mickey wrote: >> I need someone to educate me as to why this DEC hardware is worth >> more than $1K: >> eBay auction - >> "DEC PDP-8 paper tape software, books and core memory card" >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320880958746 >> At first I thought it was a gag, but then I looked at the number of >> bidders and the amounts. On Saturday, April 07, 2012 5:20 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: > > Do you know any (for example) classic car enthusiasts? Do you know > any of them who have TRULY rare or historically-significant cars? Ask > them how much they'd pay for parts, or for entire vehicles. But, I > respectfully submit, if you have to ask the question, you wouldn't > understand the answer. > >> I know there are a lot of older fellows out there holding on to their >> PDP and VAX hardware because they are quite fond of it. However, at >> some point each comes to the conclusion that unless they want to be >> buried with their computers, the same as the egyptian pharaohs were >> buried with their gold, they need to find a new home for them. >> A fellow who was on oxygen and too weak to pick up his computers any >> longer kindly give me two fully loaded VAXServer 3400's for free. >> A few years later, from another retired gentleman, I received a >> VT103 (11/23), VT100, RX02 (dual 8" flop drives), a pair of >> CDC 9427H "Hawk" drives (which about KILLED me when I lifted each >> one by myself), dozens of floppies, and a dozen 14" rigid platter >> disk cartridges. I got all of this for free too. I did pay $100 >> for a MicroVAX II, with all original tapes and manuals. It has been >> very educational learning all this old hardware and running the >> early UNIXes on real hardware (not an emulator). I found all these >> people and all of this stuff locally on craigslist. So when I see >> bits of DEC paper tape and core memory going for more than $1000, >> I am flabbergasted. Completely. Shouldn't this money be staying >> in your retirement account? (No offense intended). Why is this >> particular stuff so valuable? > > "I got this amazing, incredible deal once (or even got lucky enough to > get such a deal TWICE!), therefore they're all like that." > > No, I'm sorry, that's not the way it works. You got lucky. Twice. > Don't take it for granted. I know people who would skip meals for the > hardware you listed. I wouldn't, but there ARE computer-related things > I'd skip meals to acquire, with no hesitation. > > Just like any REAL classic car person...except the car stuff is a lot > more common. > > -Dave > > -- > Dave McGuire, AK4HZ > New Kensington, PA > Dave, Thanks for your perspective. Where I live (near Denver), both Maynard Massachusetts and Silicon Valley are a long-long way away, and always have been. I think that is one reason why when older computers go up on craigslist here, I am often the only person to email the seller. I should have stopped at my original question, and left out the info about DEC machines I have acquired, as it completely diverted attention away from what I was asking. I was just shocked by the dollar figure of that eBay auction, and telling my own story is how I reacted. So, back to the question: What were the valuable items in the auction? I don't think it was the books. And I doubt it was the core memory, but I could be wrong. I think it must have been the paper tapes with the original DEC labels. Those are somewhat fragile, and while a computer can sit in a corner for years with little degradation, the same likely cannot be said for the paper tapes. Or maybe people tossed those tapes over the years with little thought, so now they are very rare? But still, $1K, wow! Makes one think twice about tossing anything, doesn't it? Scott

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pdp8 tapes trays core memory ebay auction

by tdk.knight＠gmail.com

i put a 500$ bid in on that auction didn't expect this and it proly shot up that high cause i was biding on it from the start quite stronglyv and my bid was based on what i have seen these individual items go for so i am kinda shocked as for freebees i score a free pdp8a my pride n joy of my collection and have been aquiring parts for it ever since like rk05's and controllors rl02's as for you talk about freebees mines not as nice as ur stuff but i did score a pdp8a with all its software manuals drawings asr33 x2 On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Scott Mickey <scott.m.18 at atsgate.com> wrote: > I need someone to educate me as to why this DEC hardware is worth > more than $1K: > eBay auction - > "DEC PDP-8 paper tape software, books and core memory card" > http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320880958746 > At first I thought it was a gag, but then I looked at the number of > bidders and the amounts. > I know there are a lot of older fellows out there holding on to their > PDP and VAX hardware because they are quite fond of it. ? However, at > some point each comes to the conclusion that unless they want to be > buried with their computers, the same as the egyptian pharaohs were > buried with their gold, they need to find a new home for them. > A fellow who was on oxygen and too weak to pick up his computers any > longer kindly give me two fully loaded VAXServer 3400's for free. > A few years later, from another retired gentleman, I received a > VT103 (11/23), VT100, RX02 (dual 8" flop drives), a pair of > CDC 9427H "Hawk" drives (which about KILLED me when I lifted each > one by myself), dozens of floppies, and a dozen 14" rigid platter > disk cartridges. ?I got all of this for free too. ?I did pay $100 > for a MicroVAX II, with all original tapes and manuals. ?It has been > very educational learning all this old hardware and running the > early UNIXes on real hardware (not an emulator). ?I found all these > people and all of this stuff locally on craigslist. ? So when I see > bits of DEC paper tape and core memory going for more than $1000, > I am flabbergasted. ?Completely. ? Shouldn't this money be staying > in your retirement account? ?(No offense intended). ?Why is this > particular stuff so valuable? > Thank you for your time today. > > Scott > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adrian Stoness" > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 6:19 PM > Subject: pdp8 tapes trays core memory ebay auction > >> i put bid in and went to work at 6am and see this when i get back >> 1100 bucks :O >> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma= > true&item=320880958746&si=6c9FJZXW%252BgdjnHCVq%252FpYYQ4M3tI%253D&viewitem= > &sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBUAA%3ACA%3A3160&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc >> > >

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pdp8 tapes trays core memory ebay auction

by aek＠bitsavers.org

On 4/7/12 10:43 AM, Scott Mickey wrote: > I need someone to educate me as to why this DEC hardware is worth > more than $1K: > > I know there are a lot of older fellows out there holding on to their > PDP and VAX hardware because they are quite fond of it. > A fellow who was on oxygen and too weak to pick up his computers any > longer > Shouldn't this money be staying > in your retirement account? (No offense intended) I find your na?vet? refreshing, if offensive. You'll be 'old' some day too. Let's see how you feel when a kid comes along eying your collection. > about KILLED me when I lifted each one by myself Learn about dealing with heavy equipment before you do permanent damage to your back. It's easy to ignore this when you're young and stupid.

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pdp8 tapes trays core memory ebay auction

by scott.m.18＠atsgate.com

I need someone to educate me as to why this DEC hardware is worth more than $1K: eBay auction - "DEC PDP-8 paper tape software, books and core memory card" http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320880958746 At first I thought it was a gag, but then I looked at the number of bidders and the amounts. I know there are a lot of older fellows out there holding on to their PDP and VAX hardware because they are quite fond of it. However, at some point each comes to the conclusion that unless they want to be buried with their computers, the same as the egyptian pharaohs were buried with their gold, they need to find a new home for them. A fellow who was on oxygen and too weak to pick up his computers any longer kindly give me two fully loaded VAXServer 3400's for free. A few years later, from another retired gentleman, I received a VT103 (11/23), VT100, RX02 (dual 8" flop drives), a pair of CDC 9427H "Hawk" drives (which about KILLED me when I lifted each one by myself), dozens of floppies, and a dozen 14" rigid platter disk cartridges. I got all of this for free too. I did pay $100 for a MicroVAX II, with all original tapes and manuals. It has been very educational learning all this old hardware and running the early UNIXes on real hardware (not an emulator). I found all these people and all of this stuff locally on craigslist. So when I see bits of DEC paper tape and core memory going for more than $1000, I am flabbergasted. Completely. Shouldn't this money be staying in your retirement account? (No offense intended). Why is this particular stuff so valuable? Thank you for your time today. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Stoness" To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 6:19 PM Subject: pdp8 tapes trays core memory ebay auction > i put bid in and went to work at 6am and see this when i get back > 1100 bucks :O > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma= true&item=320880958746&si=6c9FJZXW%252BgdjnHCVq%252FpYYQ4M3tI%253D&viewitem= &sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBUAA%3ACA%3A3160&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc >

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pdp8 tapes trays core memory ebay auction

by tdk.knight＠gmail.com

i put bid in and went to work at 6am and see this when i get back 1100 bucks :O http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma…

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Bunches of Dell Precisions for sale w'/ 3.5 Floppies

by slandon110＠gmail.com

Hey guys I work for an ewaste company, thought id share what we have in right now 10 Dell Precision 390s 2.4ghz Core 2 Duos 3.5 Floppy Drive- BIOS Supports 5.25 drives as well Dual 160GB SATA HDDs 2GB RAM XP COA on each machine Asking $100 dollars each for them + Shipping or come to my door in Flushing MI and get them Steve

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VMS Problem, please help..

by jonas＠otter.se

On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 14:30:23 +0200, Holm Tiffe <holm at freibergnet.de> wrote: > Hi, > > I've tried to compile the VIM-7.3 Sources on my freshly installed VS4000, > and entered a pitfall here. > Since the C Compiler was complaining that the virtuel memory is exhaustet, > I'veed the PGFLQUOTA for the user to 104826 and the VIRTUALPAGCNT SYSGEN > Value to 2097152 (max was displayed as 4194304) > I've let run autogen and ebooted. > > Now the system ewfuses to boot: > > %SYSBOOT-W-WS default and quota raised to PHD+MINWSCNT > %SYSBOOT-F-VASOV, system virtual address space exeeded > ?06 HLT INST > PC= 00009631 PSL=041F0000 From the VMS error messages manual at http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/6023/6023pro_019.html : VASOVF, system virtual address space limit exceeded *Facility:*SYSBOOT, System Bootstrap Facility *Explanation:*The combination of SYSGEN parameters used to specify various capacities within the operating system have pushed the size of the operating system address space over the limit allowed by the VAX architecture. *User Action:*Reduce one of the parameters (BALSETCNT or VIRTUALPAGECNT (VAX only)) that contribute to the virtual address space size required by the OpenVMS system. By using AUTOGEN to set these values for your system, you avoid selection of parameter combinations that cause system space to overflow its architectural boundaries. To recover, perform a conversational boot (i.e. the boot process will let you modify system parameters to recover from a situation like yours). It is described here: http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82final/aa-pv5mj-tk/00/00/34-con.html Use the "booting with default system parameters" section. You probably then need to reduce VIRTUALPAGECNT below the value you have set (which gives a 2GB virtual address space) because the VAX architecture allows max. 2 GB virtual memory and you are probably just over the limit. The VMS documentation is excellent, you will find it online here: http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/ and this is a good manual to start with: http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82FINAL/aa-pv5mj-tk/aa-pv5mj-tk.HTMl (you will find it from the page above by following the link "OpenVMS Operating System" to the left. /Jonas

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VMS Problem, please help..

by cctech＠beyondthepale.ie

> >I've tried to compile the VIM-7.3 Sources on my freshly installed VS4000, >and entered a pitfall here. >Since the C Compiler was complaining that the virtuel memory is exhaustet, >I'veed the PGFLQUOTA for the user to 104826 and the VIRTUALPAGCNT SYSGEN >Value to 2097152 (max was displayed as 4194304) >I've let run autogen and ebooted. > VIRTUALPAGECNT is specified in pages and 2097152 pages is 1GB. >Now the system ewfuses to boot: > >%SYSBOOT-W-WS default and quota raised to PHD+MINWSCNT >%SYSBOOT-F-VASOV, system virtual address space exeeded >?06 HLT INST > PC= 00009631 PSL=041F0000 Your VAX probably doesn't have enough page file to back 1GB of virtual memory per process. Perhaps some process is defaulting to grabbing as much as it can and you are running out of pagefile? > >What can I do now to boot this thing again? > I would suggest doing a conversational boot and setting VIRTUALPAGECNT back down to something more reasonable. How to do a conversational boot varies for different types of VAX but usually it is something like: >>> BOOT /R5:1 or >>> BOOT /1 You should end up at a prompt ( SYSBOOT> I think) where you can alter SYSGEN parameters. Enter something like: SET VIRTUALPAGECNT 64000 CONTINUE and hopefully your system should then boot up ok. If you already entered a very large value for VIRTUALPAGECNT into SYS$SYSTEM:MODPARAMS.DAT, you should probably change it to something smaller before you run AUTOGEN again. AUTOGEN defaults to shutting down and rebooting the system after it sets the new system parameters. This is fine if everything worked out well but is not so great when things go wrong. A better way to do it is to tell AUTOGEN to exit after setting the new parameters and before shutting down, for example: $ @SYS$UPDATE:AUTOGEN SAVPARAMS SETPARAMS When this completes, you can review the logs that AUTOGEN produces and then manually shut down and reboot if all went well or fix things and run AUTOGEN again if it didn't. > >PS: I'm new to VMS, don't expect any knowledge, I'm a Unix guy... > Hope I pitched it right... Regards, Peter Coghlan.

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VMS Problem, please help..

by holm＠freibergnet.de

Hi, I've tried to compile the VIM-7.3 Sources on my freshly installed VS4000, and entered a pitfall here. Since the C Compiler was complaining that the virtuel memory is exhaustet, I'veed the PGFLQUOTA for the user to 104826 and the VIRTUALPAGCNT SYSGEN Value to 2097152 (max was displayed as 4194304) I've let run autogen and ebooted. Now the system ewfuses to boot: %SYSBOOT-W-WS default and quota raised to PHD+MINWSCNT %SYSBOOT-F-VASOV, system virtual address space exeeded ?06 HLT INST PC= 00009631 PSL=041F0000 >>> _ What can I do now to boot this thing again? Kind Regards, Holm PS: I'm new to VMS, don't expect any knowledge, I'm a Unix guy... -- Technik Service u. Handel Tiffe, www.tsht.de, Holm Tiffe, Freiberger Stra?e 42, 09600 Obersch?na, USt-Id: DE253710583 www.tsht.de, info at tsht.de, Fax +49 3731 74200, Mobil: 0172 8790 741

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commodore sx64 keyboard cable idea

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 04:53 AM 4/6/2012, Sander Reiche wrote: >Rosewood always has a nice look. Did anyone actually establish, with CCC pedant levels of certainty, that the -8 case in question was actually rosewood? That's the biggest chuckle to me. - John

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Looking for an KDJ11-BF ...

by holm＠freibergnet.de

Hi guys, has someone, perfered in Europe because of the shipping costs, an M8190 with FPU to sell? (Hobbyist use). If yes, please contact me.. Kind Regards, Holm -- Technik Service u. Handel Tiffe, www.tsht.de, Holm Tiffe, Freiberger Stra?e 42, 09600 Obersch?na, USt-Id: DE253710583 www.tsht.de, info at tsht.de, Fax +49 3731 74200, Mobil: 0172 8790 741

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ID memory board?

by cclist＠sydex.com

A subscriber over at the Vintage Computer forum has an interesting board to ID: http://www.vintage- computer.com/vcforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8414&d=1333637581 Does it ring any bells for anyone? --Chuck

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VMS Backup files

by elson＠pico-systems.com

Well, finally figured out how to use the vmsbackup program to unpack a backup save set - it sure wasn't obvious. First, after reading in the whole tape, you need to extract the backup save set file with no formatting. So, it won't handle a tape container format. So, you want the XXX.BCK file put into a file with just a stream of raw bytes, with no blocksize value like in the container format. Then, you use vmsbackup like this : vmsbackup -xe -b <blocksize> -f <filename> Jon

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75 in 1 Electronic Project Kit

by jgessling＠yahoo.com

Sorry, don't got any 75 to 1 manuals.? I've got two 200 to 1 sets and a 150 to 1.?? Good luck in your quest.? If you can find it that's great, or look further for a different set with a manual.? Anyway a lesson how "ephemera" as they call it can be really more valuable that the actual thing,?? Including the model number in any future messages may help.? Regards, Jim p.s. Are you near the SF Bay area, maybe I could just give you one of the other sets?? I'm getting to the age of reducing, but not quite to the age of shipping.

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