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Black screen on C64; continuous IRQ from VIC?

by fraveydank＠gmail.com

Hi all, I bought a C64 marked "non-working" at last year's VCF East as a project machine. Alas, I wasn't able to make it to Bil Herd and Rob Clarke's session on Commodore maintenance at the same show, so perhaps I missed this part. :-) Anyway, the screen is totally black, but it is syncing. I've verified on my scope that the VIC is generating the proper NTSC vertical and horizontal syncs, as well as the color burst, but there's no content. On further inspection, I've found that the IRQ line is pulled low as soon as the reset line is released, and it does not release. If I pull the VIC chip, the IRQ does not do the same thing. I know better than to assume correlation is the same as causation; it's entirely possible that by pulling the VIC, I've caused some crash in the initialization sequence that would cause one of the CIAs to pull the IRQ line constantly or something of the sort. I'm a Commodore newbie, so I don't know how the thing is *supposed* to behave, but I do know that a constant low on the IRQ line is going to keep the CPU from doing anything terribly useful unless it's masked. Anyone have advice? Is my VIC blown? I sure hope not, because those things are not easy to find outside of finding a scrapped C64. - Dave

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drivers and software

by sales＠elecplus.com

I have about 50 pounds of old software, driver disks, motherboard disks, etc. Is there some site to upload these to, that is not full of junky ads, trying to get you to buy misc crap? I would love to share them with the community, but I don't know where to upload them? Drivers range from old video and sound cards, almost every HP deskjet there ever was, to current motherboards, etc. Software ranges from Windows 1.0, AutoCad 13, and lots of other misc stuff. Large selection of shareware/freeware for 8088 on up. Sorry, there is nothing that is not PC or Mac related, that I know of. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 (830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax AOL IM elcpls _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2639/6046 - Release Date: 01/20/13

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Sun Solaris 2.5 x86 boxed

by marcogb＠xs4all.nl

Not mine, but just in case anyone may be interested, I saw this boxed Sun Solaris 2.5 box set today on a local (Dutch) auction site: <http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/computers-en-software/software-besturingssoftwa…> (For those from abroad: It's probably best to e-mail the seller.) - MG

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list status

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

The mailmain service and the inbound/outbound mail seems to be working ok on the new server at the new datacenter. However, it's using the front-end at the old location, and it needs to use the front-end at the new location. I'll start working on that right now... yes... further traffic interruptions. This should be the last major "event". J

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test 1

by jwest＠dewey.classiccmp.org

first test to list, using old front-end

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regarding Commodore SX-64 picture tubes and other stuff

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

I have them listen on eBay amongst many other items. The tubes for sure will likely be dumpsterized if they don't sell (and for some reason beyond my comprehension not one has in a couple of years). As for the rest of the stuff - who knows, perhaps the same fate. I'm determined, but not ultimately dead set on emptying out the last of my storage units. I'm keeping my most gorgeous loved items, not getting out of puters altogether. It just seems crazy to hold onto it all forever. I threw out a Rainbow monitor last night even! You were forewarned...

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server migration

by jwest＠huey.classiccmp.org

Not sure, but I think I have a few hours squirreled away to try and work on the mailman/email migration. It will likely be a bumpy ride. I'll start looking in to it now. If I can get enough of the mailman system transferred in the time I have, then I'll start looking at the mail transfer if that goes well. I'll keep you all posted. Expect an outage or two. J

13 years, 7 months

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HP 9865A Cassette Memory service manual?

by derschjo＠gmail.com

Picked up a very dirty but nearly entirely functional HP 9810A recently, with 9865ACassette Memory drive. While I wait for parts to repair the 9810's mag card reader and printer to arrive, I've been working on cleaning up the9865A. It is almost working (and the few rubber parts in it seem to be good) -- however it will not move the tape forward. There are two solenoids that control the direction of the tape and one of them (for the forward direction) is not activating. It shouldn't betoo difficult to trace down the circuit and find the faulty part but before I dig too deep I thought I'd see if anyone has a service manual for this thing. I've looked in the usual places on the 'net and haven't found anything, aside from Tony's notes for the interface. Thanks as always, Josh

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Wanted - AT&T or Olivetti UNIX PC 3B1 / 7300 PALs, motherboard or system

by classiccmp＠philpem.me.uk

Hi guys, A few of you might be aware of my AT&T 3B1 (UNIX PC) emulator project, FreeBee: http://www.philpem.me.uk/code/3b1emu/ A few of you may recall my... less than flattering comments about the hardware manual. Long story short, the PAL equations in said manual are worthless. Too many logic terms are missing or incorrect. To that end, I'm looking for one of the following: A complete 3B1 system. Hard drive optional, I have a couple of ST506 hard disk drives here which could be pressed into service if need be. This would probably be cost-prohibitive unless the machine were already somewhere in the UK or EU (probably one of the units Olivetti imported, rebadged and sold). A motherboard and keyboard (and ideally the internal cabling). I'm reasonably convinced I could put together a power supply and some form of display, but the keyboard would be a pain to substitute. A set of PALs (labelled with their board position) and gate arrays (or the bodgeboards used in early-rev 3B1s) which I could read out and decode to produce a full set of logic equations. My main target is the Memory Mapper PAL. I'm not afraid of taking a "breaker" unit and fixing it up. Broken is fine, as long as it's something fixable (e.g. it dies during the poweron RAM test without ever displaying the AT&T startup banner). My plan is to dump the PALs and other programmable logic chips, then hook up a logic analyser and document the behaviour of the gate arrays (one of which is completely undocumented). If anyone has any leads on any of the above kit, please either reply here or contact me off list if you prefer. Of course, if you'd like to contribute code to FreeBee, I accept Unified Diff files by email, Dropbox or FTP :) Andrew Warkentin has done a terrific job of making it work >95% - it's just that last 5%. At the moment it boots the Foundation set install media to userspace but fails to mount the hard disc on /mnt, instead spitting out a "no space" error followed by several "no stack space" errors). The prior mkfs/install loader operations work fine... Thanks, -- Phil. classiccmp at philpem.me.uk http://www.philpem.me.uk/

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FW: SCSI to IDE/SD Project

by LYNCHAJ＠YAHOO.COM

Hi More questions of a general nature. I am posting to CCTALK in case anyone else has similar questions. Overnight another $20 came in so we are closer! Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Lynch [mailto:LYNCHAJ at YAHOO.COM] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 7:10 PM Subject: RE: SCSI to IDE/SD Project Thanks! Yes, the $22 is a prototype PCB-only just like the other builders would receive. The builders assemble their own boards (as would your) using their own components they source separately. The final cost of components ultimately depends on how the builder procures their components. The S2I project is meant for early SASI and/or SCSI-1 computers and equipment. It is not intended to replace SCSI-2 or later drives. SCSI-2 or later drives typically are still commonly available and/or commercial SCSI-2 to IDE solutions already exist. The S2I PCB includes a 50 pin dual row header pads typically associated with SASI and/or SCSI-1 internal drives. It could be adapted to a 25 pin external connector like those used on a Mac. It also has the 2mm spaced dual row header pads used on early Mac Laptop 2.5" SCSI-1 hard drives. Typical early SASI/SCSI-1 systems would be the original Sun-1 system, early Mac Plus, early Amiga, early Atari, etc. Usually these machines originated in the late 1970's to mid-1980's. Anything later than that is probably out of scope for this project and would suffer from its inherent limitations. For the builders next stage of build and test I intend to get 10 prototype PCBs which cost about $200. So far we've received $50 so only need $150 more. The theory you could get as many PCBs as you would like but the practical upper limit is less than 10 PCBs since the builders also need some prototype PCBs for their continued development. There is a lot of information posted on the N8VEM wiki in the SCSI to IDE prototype folder http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/browse/#view=ViewFolder&param=SCSI%20to%20IDE %2FSD%20prototypes It is also discussed on the N8VEM mailing list. http://groups.google.com/group/n8vem If you are not familiar with the S2I project, I recommend you read the wiki and mailing list to get a feel for the project and what it entails. We are still in development and although the signs are promising we do not have full functionality at the moment. Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 6:41 PM > To: Andrew Lynch > Subject: Re: SCSI to IDE/SD Project > > So, $22 per? What's the max I could ask for? > (I'll see about adding +1 as well...for "builder"... ) > > And are these SCSI-1, SCSI-2? (what connector type... I'm looking to > use on Sun 2/120 and Sun 3/110... and perhaps Sun 4/110...and original Macintosh... > ) > > That reasonable? >

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Selling off items to raise money

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

Fortunately, I was able to save for myself several surplus pieces that I had planned to sell to raise money back in December. I was never able to follow through because of the vortex I got sucked into at the time. Since I need the money now more than a shattered collection, I will proceed to sell these pieces. This is what I'm offering right now: Cromemco System 1 w/display, keyboard & (2) 5.25" floppy drives (might have functional hard disk with OS) Cromemco System Three Altair 8800a Altair 8800b Heathkit H11 w/H27 dual drives Teleram T-3000 portable with external 5.25" disk drive I'll get proper descriptions and photos and post them up tomorrow (Wednesday). I'm not terribly keen on shipping things internationally but I will with the right motivation. If you would like to make an initial offer then please e-mail me directly (off-list). I'll take best offers by this Friday. Since I'm motivated to raise a few thousand dollars within the next couple days I will entertain all reasonable offers. Thank you for your consideration. -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

13 years, 7 months

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Evans & Sutherland PS300 tapes

by derschjo＠gmail.com

While digging through a box of old VAX CompacTapes I found these two tapes >from Evans & Sutherland: MICRO-VAX HOST-TAPE: VAX/VMS Backup File: PSDIST.BCK Rev.: A2.V01 PS300 VAX HOST COMPACTAPE Format: VAX/VMS Backup Format Files: USER.BCK, TOOLS.BCK, DEMOS.BCK Part Number: 904003-040 Rev. Level: Illegible I do not know whether these two tapes still contain what they say they do, but if there's interest I can dig out my external TK50 and make an attempt to read them. The PS300 looks like a pretty interesting system. - Josh

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SCSI to IDE/SD Project

by LYNCHAJ＠YAHOO.COM

> To: LYNCHAJ at yahoo.com > Subject: SCSI to IDE/SD Project > > Have you considered doing this as a Kickstart Project? > > I know I'd contribute if I could get a couple units... > Hi I got a couple of ideas/suggestions from a person on CCTALK in response to the S2I project. Given the small amount I would like to raise to buy the 10 prototype PCB boards ($150 max) I don't think it warrants the overhead of a Kickstarter project. This is more of a "pass the hat" among friends/fellow hobbyists sort of deal. I believe community support for S2I is essential. If you support the idea of a free/open source SCSI to IDE/SD bridge board even if this particular board is not for you please consider donating a small amount for the builders to get PCBs to support the project. Another idea is actually just buying one or more of the S2I PCBs. That would be just fine. Each prototype PCB would be $20 each plus shipping (typically $2 in the US and $5 elsewhere). You could support the project and I will send you a PCB. You could even buy two PCBs, one for yourself and another for a builder for build and test phase. Either way helps the S2I project by making the prototype PCB manufacturing economically feasible. Good ideas! Thank you! Have a nice day! Andrew Lynch PS, the topic of SCSI to IDE/SD has come up on CCTALK numerous times in the past. I know this will be a more pressing issue as the remaining SASI/SCSI-1 drives slowly fade away. http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2009-January/062296.html http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2010-November/080118.html

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ASR 33 Teletype in Southern California (US)

by dan＠ekoan.com

This message appeared on the Greenkeys list. It's not mine and I'm on the opposite coast anyway, but for those of you looking for a classic I/O device at a less-than-eBay price, this may be of interest. Please contact Jason directly. ---------------------------- Original Message ------------------------------------ Subject: 33 ASR for sale, Burbank, CA Hi all, I am in project-reduction mode. I'm not going to do anything with this 33 ASR, or I should say, I haven't done anything with it, so I'm offering it for sale. I'd be thrilled to get my $40 back out of it. Pictures of it when I got it, looks exactly the same, starting here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kf6pqt/page3/ I can reassemble it back into a single unit, or leave it in its state seen, depending on preference of the new owner. I will be selling junk out at the Chino Hills swap meet tomorrow morning, I'd prefer NOT to bring it with me, but if that's what it takes to get it into your hands, and $40 into mine, I can alter my preference. Thanks and 73, Jason W6IEE w6iee.811a at gmail.com

13 years, 7 months

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MacWorld 30 years of the apple lisa and the apple iie

by christian_liendo＠yahoo.com

http://www.macworld.com/article/2025408/30-years-of-the-apple-lisa-and-the-…

13 years, 7 months

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SCSI to IDE/SD project

by lynchaj＠yahoo.com

Hi We've made some real progress on the SCSI to IDE/SD project (aka S2I). It is a completely free/open source project entirely volunteer community project. By hobbyists for hobbyists! There have been many improvements and fixes found in the build and test that I've incorporated into a second version of the hardware board. Many thanks to our friends at SEBHC project. I estimate it will cost about $200 for another batch of prototype/pre-production boards. So far we've raised about $50 thanks to help from 68kMLA friends. We are constantly looking for additional developers. If you would like to help develop the S2I project to support your particular application please contact me. In particular, I would like to see development to support the very oldest SASI and/or SCSI-1 systems with unique requirements. That would demonstrate the benefits of customization of a free/open source project a commercial product never could/would support. Also if you would be interested in sponsoring our next batch of boards please contact me. Even small contributions would be greatly appreciated and help us toward a new set of boards. I would really like to reduce the cost burden to the builders who are already contributing their time and skills to help make this project available to everyone. Even if you disagree with this particular implementation of a S2I bridge board, the project is useful to the larger hobbyist community because it is creating valuable design information and source code which can be used in subsequent follow on projects. I have ideas for additional improvements and other applications but we have to get past this initial board hurdle first. Like all the N8VEM projects, all the information hardware, software, parts list, BOM, build instructions, photos, etc will be publicly posted and freely available to anyone. S2I is the only free/open source SCSI to IDE/SD project I am know of that's gotten to this stage. Please consider supporting this project. If you would like additional information you can reach me at LYNCHAJ at YAHOO.COM There is additional information on the S2I project at the N8VEM wiki http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/browse/#view=ViewFolder&param=SCSI%20to%20ID… Discussion on the S2I project is on the N8VEM mailing list http://groups.google.com/group/n8vem Thank you in advance for your consideration. Have a nice day! Andrew Lynch

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FS/FT: Two Xerox 6085 computers

by greg.casamento＠gmail.com

Do you, by chance, still have one of these? If not, do you know the email of the person who ended up getting them? Thanks, GC -- Gregory Casamento Open Logic Corporation, Principal Consultant yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa (240)274-9630 (Cell) http://www.gnustep.org http://heronsperch.blogspot.com

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server migration

by jwest＠huey.classiccmp.org

Ok, all the data for the classiccmp.org subdirectories has been moved. I will be switching the A record for classiccmp.org to the new server sometime today. I'll announce after it is done, and at that point people can again start modifying content of their sites whenever they wish. Important to note... I have not migrated the mailman/email stuff for classiccmp.org yet. That means several things... Once the website is moved, it will appear that the archives are not being updated or unavailable. Fear not, nothing is being lost. All the mail goes to the 'old' server and thus won't show up in the list archives. Whenever I move the mail, then the archives will automatically re-appear with all the traffic. Our front-end mail systems are not yet proven, so classiccmp will be the first test of that new infrastructure. Given the complexity of the new environment, this will be "target rich" for "issues". I will do the best I can as quickly as possible to resolve any issues. Best, J

13 years, 7 months

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Retr0Bright: Does re-yellowing occur even in the absence of UV light?

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

I don't know or want to know what a bromide is even (sounds like something mum or dad were taking for gas or constipation back in the dawn of time, circa 1972). All I know is if you put warm coffee in a ceramic mug on top of a yellow computer, it erases the yellow, for a few seconds. There's real creepy going on with this stuff, that's all I know.

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FW: [N8VEM: 15283] Re: SCSI2IDE Progress

by LYNCHAJ＠YAHOO.COM

Hi! I think this is of general interest to the vintage/classic/hobbyist computer community. We are getting very close to a fully functional free and open source SCSI-1 to IDE (including CF adapters) and SD bridge board. There have been several discoveries during the build and test phase and we will be getting a second set of prototype boards soon that include all the fixes (including optional terminating resistors, various fixes and improvements, etc). Please see the photos of the test harness and the board responding to a PC SCSI-1 controller identify command. This board is being targeted to the most oldest SASI and/or SCSI-1 equipped machines. Generally speaking newer SCSI drives are still available and/or commercial SCSI to IDE bridges exist already so this board would not be necessary. It is primarily intended for the most ancient SASI/SCSI-1 machines such as early Mac, Atari, Amiga, Apple II, DEC, Sun, Apollo, various CP/M single board computers, sewing machines, synthesizers, lab and/or test equipment, etc with specialized SASI and/or SCSI-1 requirements. Occasionally these older machines require specific SASI and/or SCSI-1 drives to operate which may no longer be available. Since the bridge board is free/open source the identification strings and/or firmware can be modified to emulate these older devices. Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch From: n8vem at googlegroups.com [mailto:n8vem at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Warthen Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:20 PM To: n8vem at googlegroups.com Subject: [N8VEM: 15283] Re: SCSI2IDE Progress More progress this weekend. Still a long way to go, but this is good stuff. I have been able to exchange data with a host initiator to the point where the host knows the target is there and basic information like it's name and capacity. Here are links to some pictures I just posted on the Wiki. I can see the host asking for a "READ DATA" command now, but have not had time to implement it, but very close. S2I Test Harness <http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/62651425/2013-01-13%20S2I%20Test% 20Harness.jpg> shows my SCSI2IDE board connected to my Xi 8088 (thanks Sergey!) via a Future Domain SCSI Controller. S2I LUN Discovery <http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/62651421/2013-01-13%20S2I%20LUN%2 0Discovery.jpg> shows a boot screen demonstrating the Future Domain Controller BIOS finding the SCSI2IDE board and successfully determining it's sector size. SCSI2IDE Board <http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/62651429/2013-01-13%20SCSI2IDE%20 Board.jpg> just shows the board itself. Thanks, Wayne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "N8VEM" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/n8vem/-/yoF3FPjgBX4J. To post to this group, send email to n8vem at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to n8vem+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/n8vem?hl=en.

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More eBay users selling my stolen property and affidavit exhibits uploaded

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

Thanks to the watchful eyes of various folks, I have discovered two more eBay sellers selling my stolen property: kaekae_b2011 http://www.ebay.com/sch/kaekae_b2011/m.html?item=121051068738&ssPageName=ST… martinezana http://www.ebay.com/csc/martinezana/m.html?LH_Complete=1&rt=nc I am going to be contacting eBay legal tomorrow to let them know I'll be adding them to the lawsuit unless they shut down these auctions. Their response should be interesting. Also, for those interested, I uploaded the exhibits to my affidavit: http://vintagetech.com/download/lawsuit/ I also uploaded an Opposition declaration that gives some background on what occurred between the two hearings held for the second Temporary Restraining Order application. -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

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Quatech WSB-100-20 Arbitrary Waveorm Generator

by technobug＠comcast.net

> Going through the attic and found an old industrial PC with four Quatech boards (lower board in <http://www.iowaind.com/Manufacturing-Equipment-/Drills-/No-Warranty-/Quatec…>). These are 16-bit, ISA cards. They've been had ->CRC

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More eBay users selling my stolen property and affidavit exhibits uploaded

by js＠cimmeri.com

First, what a horrible, horrible thing to be going through, Sellam. I can't imagine the stress and shock you must be enduring right now. Like several people have said, despite your preferences on the matter, you really do need a pit-bull "good old boy" lawyer to go out and get this matter under control asap. You need to do this pronto. Only a good ole boy can work things out with good ole boys. You need a lawyer well connected, who golfs with the judges, etc. The more expensive, the better (unfortunately but true). Next, did you have insurance on your facility? If so, I presume you've contacted them? Ideally, if you had insurance, they'd fight the entire battle for you. If you did not, this will stand as an extremely painful lesson in the risks of not carrying it. I don't know you at all, but I feel for you. Things like this don't happen because we want them to or really through negligence.. they just sometimes are forced upon us by circumstance. Sell, sell, sell. Get money. Get a lawyer. You will not win this by yourself.. and if you are in a highly conservative area, even just your name (sadly) is going to hinder you. Best of luck. John S.

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Quatech WSB-100-20 Arbitrary Waveorm Generator

by technobug＠comcast.net

Going through the attic and found an old industrial PC with four Quatech boards (lower board in <http://www.iowaind.com/Manufacturing-Equipment-/Drills-/No-Warranty-/Quatec…>). These are 16-bit, ISA cards. If anyone is interested, they are available for $20 plus shipping from 85704. I will include a 60MB IDE drive with software that was used to display data along with control the cards. ->CRC

13 years, 7 months

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Retr0Bright: Does re-yellowing occur even in the absence of UV light?

by terry＠webweavers.co.nz

I've Retr0Brighted a handful of my computers in the past but now they seem to be regressing back to their original mellow yellow. This despite being kept in dark boxes. While UV seems to be essential for yellowing in the first place, perhaps it's not required for reyellowing/regression after a Retr0Bright treatment. Anyway I thought it was an interesting phenomenon worth sharing so I wrote an article on my experiences http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/blog/2013-01-15-retr0bright-only-tempor… Has anyone else observed this? Terry (Tez)

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Forgot to post here...16Kx1 DRAM NOS at Goldmine

by joerg.sigle＠jsigle.com

Hi Chuck, I just reviewed the datasheets. The pinout appears *mostly* compatible - appart from the fact that the 4116 pin 8 wants +12V, and the 4517 only +5V. The other power supply pins have changed to N.C., so it could be done with a small board change or a small wire by each IC. I was just considering that because I have a machine with 64 x 4116 (and maybe some more in two or three other boards, don't want to look now...), and I would be interested in reducing power dissipation. It may go to 170 mW per chip, ... but while MOSTEK say their 4116 needs up to 1 W max, I just see the TMS4116-20 more probably has 462 mW. So it would save me... 19 W at best. Or less, because the unused power rails cannot simple be turned off - or more, because the PSU is a rather large, old, linear type. Now well - I don't have time; the originals are soldered in, so don't want to ruin the boards anyway. Nor change their original state more than needed for actual repairs. I've already replaced one defective IC of these, so I could at least test compatibility... Has anybody ever replaced memory ICs to save power? Btw., I *might* have to stick with 1 bit RAM in this machine because it might mask individual bits in hardware, IIRC. Kind regards, Joerg On 16.01.2013 06:07, cctalk-request at classiccmp.org wrote: > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 14:43:39 -0800 > From: Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > <cctalk at classiccmp.org> > Subject: Forgot to post here...16Kx1 DRAM NOS at Goldmine > Message-ID: <50F5DB9B.9050107 at sydex.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I posted this on Erik Klein's forum awhile back, but also meant to post > this here. > > Electronics Goldmine has new 2-per-package MCM4517P12 16Kx1 DRAMs for $1 > for two ICs. These are the single-supply version of the 4116 3-rail > devices and I believe, entirely pin-compatible. > > Might be a good deal for someone looking for replacement DRAM. > > http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G19239 > > Cheers, > Chuck -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. med. J?rg M. Sigle +41-76-276-8694 http://www.ql-recorder.com +41-32-51-22-944 http://www.jsigle.com Have a lovely day... +49-176-964-35413

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Part for Hitachi 6800 emulator available...

by lbickley＠bickleywest.com

I recently acquired (3) NOS H62EPC1 keyboards for Hitachi's 6800 emulator. In appearance they look like calculator keyboards. See: ftp://bickleywest.com/hitachi/H62EPC1.jpg If you have an need for one or more, let me know off-list. Cheers, Lyle -- Bickley Consulting West Inc. http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"

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DEC R82-HDA for sale

by sales＠elecplus.com

I have one very large old hard drive here, made by DEC. The front face plate is missing. The drive inside says R82-HDA. PN 70-21170-01 The complete unit is an RA82, I believe. Looks like the one in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfskSzKBnWA Except for the face plate, it appears complete. This unit is on rails, and came out of an old server years ago. It will have to ship on a pallet. Make offers? Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 (830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax AOL IM elcpls _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2638/6037 - Release Date: 01/16/13

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More eBay users selling my stolen property and affidavit exhibits uploaded

by robert＠irrelevant.com

On 16 January 2013 16:34, Zane H. Healy <healyzh at aracnet.com> wrote > > You need to stop travelling down this road you are on, and get real legal > representation. You do not want to be threatening a Corporation such as > eBay without a good team of Lawyers behind you. Honestly my fear is that > your actions already done irreparable harm to any chance you might have of > getting your property back. Please seek out Legal Representation before you > also do irreparable harm to your life as well. > I have to concur. From a UK perspective: Without going into details, we are currently in legal battles getting money back off someone, and whilst, so far, we've done everything ourselves (successfully, if slowly) the defendant has been representing himself too. The judges have for the most part been sympathetic and have taken our lack of experience into account. The moment however that he does find himself a solicitor willing to take on his case (he had one drop out already once we explained matters to them), then we'll have to do the same. I've dealt with the professionals in the past, and they are mostly akin to playground bullies, and delight at stomping on the amateurs. Don't let yourself get into that situation. Rob

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Radio Shack Pocket Computer TRS-80 for sale

by sales＠elecplus.com

Catalog number 26-3501, batteries work, powers on, basic arithmetic functions work. I have not tested it further. There is some darkening of the display, mostly on the top left side. Includes Radio Shack vinyl case and fold-up TRS-80 Pocket Computer Reference Card. $100 plus shipping takes it away. Well packed, the weight will be about 2 pounds. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 (830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax AOL IM elcpls _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2638/6037 - Release Date: 01/16/13

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Vintage Computer Festival Archvies STOLEN by Tri-Valley Recycling in Stockton - now selling on eBay as seller "tvrsales"

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

eBay seller id "tvrsales" is currently selling property STOLEN from the Vintage Computer Festival. If you are planning on buying anything of a vintage computer nature from eBay seller "tvrsales" in Stockton, California, please know that you are most likely BIDDING ON STOLEN PROPERTY. The VCF Archives were STOLEN by Tri-Valley Recycling (eBay ID "tvrsales") in cahoots with the landlords of the building where it was sold. The sordid tale can be read about through lawsuit material already on my website for download: http://vintagetech.com/download/lawsuit/ I encourage everyone to read through the letters and especially the affidavit to see the absolute criminality of these vultures. I am continuing to upload more material as I have time, but the basic story is there. The court system was absolutely useless, as were the police and sheriff. I am having to sue for conversion, fraud, racketeering, unjust enrichment, and probably other charges as I continue my research. I am here to tell you right now: Anyone on the receiving end of my stolen property is going to be entangled in this mess one way or another. Therefore, my suggestion to you is that YOU SHOULD NOT BID ON OR BUY ANYTHING FROM TRI-VALLEY RECYCLING IN STOCKTON, CALIFORNIA. If you do end up with my stuff, you will become a part of the lawsuit in some way. So if you don't want to have legal issues to deal with, stay away from anything they are selling. I think I have made myself redundantly clear here. The full story will come out in time. Right now I'm re-grouping for my next legal attack. Yes, I could use assistance, especially if you have a law background and can do research for me. Sure, I could use money, so send some if you got it. I don't need attorneys. Attorneys are useless in the capacity that I am acting. I'm doing this the proper way: myself. My entire career as a computer historian has been destroyed by these hyenas. Now I have to sit here and watch as they auction off 25 years of my life's work piece by piece. Don't be caught in the frenzy when the lion shows up. -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

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Video TECO

by blake＠arahant.com

Greetings, I am a teco enthusiast too. Saw you made some patched to Cantrel's video teco. Do you have a latest version with any patches? Thanks. Blake McBride

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Honeywell terminals pics

by sales＠elecplus.com

https://picasaweb.google.com/106111250846948401252/Honeywell Pics of the Honeywell terminals, for those that asked. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 (830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax AOL IM elcpls _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2638/6034 - Release Date: 01/15/13

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My Commodore SX-64 Executive video on YouTube

by terry＠webweavers.co.nz

This time it's the Commodore SX-64 Executive to the fore. Just in time for its 30th Anniversary. http://youtu.be/1cGGhtMSxtE Terry (Tez)

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server status

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

All the websites on the classiccmp server that have their own domain name have been migrated. Please test & advise. You can start modifying content again. I'm now working on all the subdirectory websites of classiccmp.org, will let you know when they are done so you can again start modifying any content. Mailman will be done last. J

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Current Do Not Buy/Bid list (eBay) - STOLEN VCF Archives Items

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

The follow items listed for sale on eBay are STOLEN from the Vintage Computer Festival Archives: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOS-Technology-KIM-1-Single-Board-Computer-Revision… http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Factory-Sealed-Scrapyard-Dog-Video-Game-Atari-7… http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Commodore-Amiga-A-500-Personal-Home-Compute… http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Atari-1040STF-1040ST-W-Power-on-Mouse-Box-C… http://www.ebay.com/itm/National-Semiconductor-ISP-8P-301N-SC-MP-Low-Cost-D… http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Cromemco-CS-1-System-One-Computer-W-Manual-… http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ohio-Scientific-Challenger-8P-Computer-Rare… http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-NorthStar-Horizon-Z-80A-Computer-Rare-W-Woo… http://www.ebay.com/itm/IMSAI-PCS-80-10-S-100-Rare-Cromemco-Blitz-Computer-… These items have been reported to eBay as stolen. An open lawsuit for conversion, fraud, and racketeering has been filed in San Joaquin County Superior Court and these items are the subject of that lawsuit. Any sales from eBay seller "tvrsales" (Tri-Valley Recycling, Stockton, California) will be traced and any buyers added as defendants to the suit. -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

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Vintage Computer Festival Archvies STOLEN by Tri-Valley

by ball.of.john＠gmail.com

>I encourage everyone to read through the letters and especially the >affidavit to see the absolute criminality of these vultures. I am >continuing to upload more material as I have time, but the basic story is >there. > >The court system was absolutely useless, as were the police and sheriff. >I am having to sue for conversion, fraud, racketeering, unjust enrichment, >and probably other charges as I continue my research. > >I am here to tell you right now: Anyone on the receiving end of my stolen >property is going to be entangled in this mess one way or another. >Therefore, my suggestion to you is that YOU SHOULD NOT BID ON OR BUY >ANYTHING FROM TRI-VALLEY RECYCLING IN STOCKTON, CALIFORNIA. If you do end >up with my stuff, you will become a part of the lawsuit in some way. My interpretation is: tough noogies. You spent half a year not paying bills or trying in any possible way to relocate your belongings. It was excuse after excuse after excuse followed by backlash. If you considered these computers so valueable you should of been putting a LOT more effort into cramming it into a storage locker or a spare bedroom. Up here in Canada (I guess that's the key phrase because who knows just how much different the laws are but at least up here it's nationally accepted that....)if you don't pay the rent and you're that far due you can forget about whatever you left there. The landlord can switch the locks and now claim it as his own and the courts will laugh you out the door. Just because you decided to play lazy does not mean that we can't bid in fear of a pretty weak court case. If anything I advocate for more people to bid on it because we at least know it came from a reputable person.

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Vintage Computer Festival Archvies STOLEN by Tri-Valley

by ball.of.john＠gmail.com

>spare bedroom??!? >Can I move into your house? >Maybe put my HOUSE into one of your spare bedrooms? >Just the stuff that he hauled out from my closing office >would fill three normal "spare bedroom"s. Okay, I didn't realize that when he meant a warehouse he literally meant a warehouse crammed wall to wall and just about as high as you could go with with essentially everything. I was rather blown away by the photographs when I finally saw them on Flickr ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/2533385026/sizes/o/in/photostream/ ). It's like an episode of hoarders only things are a bit more organized. I'll agree that at that point a spare bedroom will be the leasy likely place to store stuff. >In the US this is a matter of state law, which of course varies from >state to state. In California, the landlord can NOT take simply >possession of the tenant's belongings. The eviction process involves >having the Sheriff seize the tenant's belongings. If the property is >believed to be worth more than $700, it has to be sold at a public sale >(auction) at a time and place published in a general circulation >newspaper. I rather doubt that eBay qualifies. See California Civil >Code section 1980-1991, especially section 1988. > >If the landlord takes possession of the belongings or disposes of them >in a different manner than prescribed by law, it is theft, conversion, >and/or unjust enrichment. > >[These are my personal opinions, which are worth exactly what you've >paid for them. I am not a lawyer, and this isn't legal advice.]// OH! Okay, so there is some reason to complain then. Pardon my previously posted opinion.

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Forgot to post here...16Kx1 DRAM NOS at Goldmine

by cclist＠sydex.com

I posted this on Erik Klein's forum awhile back, but also meant to post this here. Electronics Goldmine has new 2-per-package MCM4517P12 16Kx1 DRAMs for $1 for two ICs. These are the single-supply version of the 4116 3-rail devices and I believe, entirely pin-compatible. Might be a good deal for someone looking for replacement DRAM. http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G19239 Cheers, Chuck

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Vintage Computer Festival Archvies STOLEN by Tri-Valley

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

> My interpretation is: tough noogies. Your opinion is noted, ignorant as it is, based on assumptions, incomplete facts, and a callous disregard for and improper understanding of property rights (that apply equally in Canada as well as here in America, ancient law that goes back to the Magna Charta). I understand there are people like you, who will look at a situation like this and say stuff like, "tough noogies"(?) I realize you would probably say the same thing to your grandmother--damn the facts. You're the same type of people who believe it's OK to scam someone out of their property by intentionally withholding court notices they are required to send, then collude to deprive the rightful owner of any possible remedy because you know you have an insider in the court who will make everything work in your favor. I'm not concerned with people like you, inasmuch as I can avoid doing any business with you so that when things don't work out I can be guaranteed my rights will be observed and a business relationship can be wound down honorably and with integrity. -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

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Vintage Computer Festival Archvies STOLEN by Tri-Valley Recycling in Stockton - now selling on eBay as seller "tvrsales"

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

Zane Healy wrote: > Something that worries me is what went into the dumpster that they > apparently had on site. All of my shelving, desks, benches--the infrastructure of the archive-- and other items that the undiscerning scrapper would consider "junk". Thank you for your concern. > One also has to wonder how badly Sellam had pissed off the landlords > prior to this point. Reading through the email and documents last night > I was reminded of a conversation I'd had earlier in the night with my > seven year old. As regrettable as it is, the choices he made had > consequences. You're now comparing me to your 7 year old? You're unbelievable. How do I put this as politely as possible: you are making a lot of fart noises right now. As far as TVR, they claimed at the hearing it cost them $61,000 to move 200 pallets 3 miles across town. Almost all of the pallets were stacked and ready to go. They needed to stack maybe 5 more pallets of stuff, and discarded the rest (the "junk"). When they claimed this I knew they were lying and thus colluding with the landlords in their crime and therefore complicit. Four days before the hearing I had a 40 minute conversation with the operations manager of TVR and they knew full well the story AND the fact that there was already an open lawsuit against the landlords. I offered them the money they claim they paid the landlords for the stuff and to not add them to the lawsuit but they rejected it. Right there they opted to collude with the landlords. They are guilty. Now I will prove it. -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

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Vintage Computer Festival Archvies STOLEN by Tri-Valley

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

Eric Smith wrote: > In the US this is a matter of state law, which of course varies from > state to state. In California, the landlord can NOT take simply > possession of the tenant's belongings. The eviction process involves > having the Sheriff seize the tenant's belongings. If the property is > believed to be worth more than $700, it has to be sold at a public sale > (auction) at a time and place published in a general circulation > newspaper. I rather doubt that eBay qualifies. See California Civil > Code section 1980-1991, especially section 1988. Actually, the threshold amount is $300, and before it can be sold at auction the landlord must have already: 1) Noticed the tennant of the restoration of the real property 2) Noticed the tennant of any personal property left on the property 3) >>>Allowed the tennant 15 days to recover the property<<<a 4) Noticed the tennant of the sale of any personal items remaining after the initial 15 days *and give them 15 days additional to recover the property upon payment of all storage fees incurred by the landlord* before it is actually sold off The landlords did exactly none of this. Even after I plainly and explicitly and thoroughly educated them on the law through the letters I wrote (which I posted for all to read) including footnotes to the actual statutes. Even after they sent me (an illegible) notice of the sale, they still refused to allow me to get my stuff, even after I offered to pay the storage costs as required under the code. They wanted me to pay additional amounts to which they were not entitled. Note for #3: by the time I received notice that I was locked out it was 4 days before the mandatory 15 days I am to be given by default under statute. The landlords never sent notice to my address of record but instead sent it to the building, where I never received any mail, which never had mail service and didn't even have a proper address until one was added for the purposes of the eviction. Thus, I never received notice and the landlords failed in their duty to notify me. This is all in my affidavit. > If the landlord takes possession of the belongings or disposes of them > in a different manner than prescribed by law, it is theft, conversion, > and/or unjust enrichment. Eric is obviously someone who has taken the time to study the law. Thank you, Eric. And as Eric mentioned, these laws vary by state/jurisdiction, so you may have a different set of laws involved where you live, in which case I can say I'm sorry for you. At least in California we have these protections on the books, not that they are strictly adhered to in some places where the rule of law is obviously not as paramount as personal connections. -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

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Vintage Computer Festival Archvies STOLEN by Tri-Valley

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

What some folks are missing is a sense of the timeline. This dragged out over 5 months, in which time I tried every possible way under the Sun to get access to the warehouse after I'd been inappropriately locked out (landlords failed to give proper, timely notice) including OFFERING TO PAY THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OF BACK RENT, the money of which was laid out on the counter of their secretary, counted in her hands, but was rejected after she called her bosses and was inexplicably instructed not to take the money. Read Uniform Commercial Code section 3-306(b) and then tell me I didn't pay them. This is all in my affidavit. I only went to court after I exhausted my private administrative remedies and the landlords began to threaten to sell my stuff, fully in violation of my rights and California statutes of which I thoroughly educated them. The landlords brought an insider to the court with them (as they did to every court appearance) who obviously helped throw the matter in their favor. Yes, yes, of course I'm going to say that, but if you only knew. Learning about the corruption in San Joaquin County courts is not difficult--google will tell you all (that is publicly available). What do you do when you're an outsider and you're up against an entire "good old boy" network? Never mind, don't think about it, it might hurt your fragile brains. All I can say is that when your options are to capitulate to someone's unlawful demands or else say bye bye to your life's work, what choice are you going to make? I was able to move out about 15-20% of the collection before being locked out again. Read the affidavit as to why I could not finish on time. Yes, it was my fault for not getting it all out in time--woulda/shoudla/coulda. Yes, I could have asked for help sooner. Yes, maybe I should have ignored the unchecked flooding in the warehouse that was destroying part of my documents collection and just continued to pack the loose items. Etc. However, I don't see how that negates my property rights, and anyone who has an accurate understanding of the law doesn't either. I know more about California commercial rental and property law than most attorneys now, so to those who want to pontificate lawyerly, please keep your uninformed opinions to yourself. I am, however, open to input from people who actually study law and can match or surpass my knowledge. My affidavit was never rebutted. An unrebutted affidavit stands as truth in the record. This is an ancient legal maxim. These guys have implicitly admitted their guilt. However, they have the shield of attorneys and insiders who know the judges well enough to sway the outcome in their favor. Yes, I understand: that only happens on TV, not in real life. Of course. While all this was going on, I was also fighting against my purported "mortgage lender" who was unlawfully foreclosing on my house, and was actively assisting others in a similar situation. I was supposed to be out of MY house last Tuesday, but a last minute bankruptcy filing has kept shelter over my and my families head--for now. I can comfortably say I didn't get much sleep last year. At least walk a few feet in my shoes if you can before you feel the urge to lecture me. -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

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Apple Lisa is sold

by sales＠elecplus.com

The Apple Lisa has been purchased. Cindy Croxton _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2638/6034 - Release Date: 01/15/13

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HP 12c

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

------------------------------ On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 8:19 PM PST Chris Tofu wrote: > > > > > >------------------------------ >On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 6:33 PM PST Chuck Guzis wrote: > >>On 12/16/2012 05:39 PM, Chris Tofu wrote: >> >> What would be the difference, internally, between it and other horizontal models? >> >>Of what vintage? A modern HP12C has very little in common with a >>vintage HP16C. >> >>--Chuck >> >> >> >I didn know that. I bought it at Wallyworld say 10 years ago. Ill spill the beans. I had aspirations of turning it into something scientific. Rom swap or what have you. Naive I guess. Anyone want to make an offer? Barely used.

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Lisa pics

by sales＠elecplus.com

https://picasaweb.google.com/106111250846948401252/AppleLisa but it might be sold now Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 (830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax AOL IM elcpls _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2638/6034 - Release Date: 01/15/13

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Mindset Computer Corp collection...

by curt＠atarimuseum.com

Hi, I've had a lot of interest in the collection, but my time is running short so I need to sell this whole collection, I've lowered the price for everything - systems, expansion units, modules, boxed items, mice, joysticks, keyboards, software, developer binder and domain and more all for $4,000. First person who replies directly to me - curt(at)atarimuseum(dot)com gets it all, so email me and let me know, thanks... Curt

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Honeywell and HP terminals

by sales＠elecplus.com

The OLD Honeywells and the HP 700/96 terminals have been sold. Qty 2 of the HDS7 terminals, not just 1 are left. If anybody knows the PN for the HDS7 keyboard, I might have matching ones here. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 (830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax AOL IM elcpls _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2638/6034 - Release Date: 01/15/13

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Current Do Not Buy/Bid list (eBay) - STOLEN VCF Archives Items

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

Zane Healy, So you're saying you read my entire complaint, affidavit, all exhibits, and have applied your Solomon-like wisdom to the matter and have determined that my credibility is lost, I have committed slander, and I am a fool. Wow. Hey, maybe you should offer to represent Tri-Valley Recycling. They could really use your legal expertise. You seem to have it all figured out. Even if I never get my property returned, turning my back on this hobby and moving on will be easy thanks to people like you. -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

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cheap flash RAM for sale

by sales＠elecplus.com

http://www.pacificmicrotel.com/products/AT49F512-70TC/ 25 cents each, can anybody use these? Cindy Croxton _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2890 / Virus Database: 2638/6031 - Release Date: 01/13/13

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creating old school 3D graphics

by tom_a_sparks＠yahoo.com.au

> In article <1358156904.76010.YahooMailNeo at web142501.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, > ? ? Tom Sparks <tom_a_sparks at yahoo.com.au> writes: > >> > Are you looking to just reproduce the look or are you also wanting to >> > reproduce the technology used back then? >> I just want to reproduce the look > > OK, then you need to decide which "look" you want to reproduce.? Are > you specifically trying to reproduce the visual look from REND386, or > just using that as a reference point? I think both > >> for my model I am looking at doing >> * Isometric projection > > This is trivial. > >> * objectvr[4] > > This is also trivial.? From looking at the URL you gave for [4], it's > just picture flipping a bunch of pictures taken at different > viewpoints relative to the object.? You don't even need a graphics > card for this, it's just picture flipping. working out the best way to get these pictures, animation? > >> * at a later date I may use webgl > > Why webgl, are you trying to make something that is browser based? yes, it? a later date project, I want to allow full 6DOF of the models as well as objectvr's limited freedom > >> > If just the former, it's not hard at all, since you're simply > using >> > existing technology in a lower fidelity mode. >> its not that easy as it seams a lot of the styling needs to be done using a >> Shading Language >> witch is only support on some newer graphics cards > > Shader based graphics cards are the norm for the past decade, so hardly > only available on "newer" graphics cards.? OGL even provides a > software > fallback. > > However, don't assume that because people are showing you how to do > something in a shader that the only way to do it is in a shader. I was just asking could it be done > The > last generation of fixed-function pipeline cards (i.e. 10+ year old > cards) were capable of a variety of effects if you were creative in > how you use the hardware. > > I would agree that it's simpler to develop the effect now with a > shader than to try and figure out complex multitexture fixed-function > effects.? If you get something like ATI's RenderMonkey or NVidia's FX > Composer, you can evaluate the shaders interactively on a model > without having to do edit-compile-test cycles. i'l have look into downloading those programs (google here I come.....) > -- > "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book > <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> > ? ? The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> > ? ? ? ? The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> > ? Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com> >

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Current Do Not Buy/Bid list (eBay) - STOLEN VCF Archives Items

by sellam＠vintagetech.com

David, To answer your question: the truth of the matter is no. My affidavit contains their soul response: an illegible (legally invalid) notice to sell my property that came only after I noticed them of their deficiency in process and did not meet any of the statutory requirements and was undated (hence, illegible). As it was merely intended to cover their asses, it was not really a serious notice, as even when I exercised my right to reclaim my stuff per their notice they still refused. I will post that particular exhibit with the rest of the exhibits as soon as I can get them scanned. The landlords did finally respond to the complaint, which I received in the mail today. I'll scan and post that as well, for what it's worth. It's filled with stuff attorneys get paid to write. -- Sellam Ismail VintageTech ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintagetech.com Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap...The truth is always simple.

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HP terminals

by sales＠elecplus.com

There are 5 HP 700/96 terminals with keyboards. The keyboards are complete. 1 of the terminals has significant screen burn in white mode, but not in black mode. 4 terminals come up crisp and bright white, no screen burn, no scratched glass. Cases are very dirty right now, but I can clean them. Make offer? Prefer to ship within the US; I don't know how well these will do going overseas. Cindy Croxton Electronics Plus 1613 Water Street Kerrville, TX 78028 (830)792-3400 phone (830)792-3404 fax AOL IM elcpls _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2742 / Virus Database: 2617/5875 - Release Date: 11/05/12

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Data General MV/2500 Documentation

by steve＠stephenmerrony.co.uk

Does anyone have any MV/2500 docs that I could have a copy of? Or MV/2000 for that matter - they are very similar. I have just got hold of an MV/2500 which needs plenty of TLC to get it running again. Website and blog at http://stephen.homedns.org/dg/ Steve -- /Stephen Merrony /

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PDP-9 Restoration at the RICM

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

> From: Tom Uban <uban at ubanproductions.com> > Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:29:24 -0600 > Subject: Re: PDP-9 Restoration at the RICM > Very cool! There was a PDP-9 at Purdue University back in the day. What > is the origin of the machine which is being restored at the RICM? This one came from Max Levy Autograph inf Philadelphia, PA. Details are here: https://sites.google.com/a/ricomputermuseum.org/home/Home/equipment/dec-pdp… -- Michael Thompson

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Wanted: X Terminal software

by legalize＠xmission.com

I'm collecting together all the X terminal software (servers, configuration files, manuals, etc). I have this old snapshot of the FTP site for ncd.com: <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org/mirror/ftp.ncd.com/> I'm looking for more. I don't have the X terminal software for X terminals from: - DEC - HP - Tektronix If anyone can help me collect this together into one place, that would be great. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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Jumper settings / docs on AVIV qbus card needed

by p.gebhardt＠ymail.com

Dear community, I dropped over an AVIV card (model number 50-860), which seem to be a qbus tape-controller for drives with GCR-encoding. Two 50pin pin connectors typically used for PERTEC-systems are sitting on the front. Except for thirdy or so shops, google does not show up anything about this board. Bitsavers does not contain any AVIV-related documents, either. Does anybody have docs or at least jumper specifications of this board? That would be of great help in order to make use of it ! Kind regards and thanks in advance, Pierre ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pierre's collection of classic computers : http://classic-computing.dyndns.org/

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creating old school 3D graphics

by tom_a_sparks＠yahoo.com.au

----- Original Message ----- In article <1357986577.45360.YahooMailNeo at web142506.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, Tom Sparks <tom_a_sparks at yahoo.com.au> writes: >I've talked to the webgl community about this, and their reply was it could >be done, without a reference sorry reference [1] >? Are you looking to just reproduce the look or are you also wanting to > reproduce the technology used back then? I just want to reproduce the look i've found a program called REND386 v5[2] (DOS based) it dose not support texture mapping and only works @ 320x200 (mode 13h) but it can load in PLG files[3] its a start in the right direction for my model I am looking at doing * Isometric projection * objectvr[4] * at a later date I may use webgl > If just the former, it's not hard at all, since you're simply using > existing technology in a lower fidelity mode. its not that easy as it seams a lot of the styling needs to be done using a Shading Language witch is only support on some newer graphics cards >-- > "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> > The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> >The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> > Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com> [1] https://www.khronos.org/webgl/public-mailing-list/archives/1206/msg00162.ht… [2] http://www.cob.unt.edu/slides/VEDDER/Temp/AI/REND386/ best to download with a website reaper [3] http://paulbourke.net/dataformats/plg/ note: the FIG and WLD information is out of date [4] http://gardengnomesoftware.com/object2vr_example.php?demo=multires --- tom_a_sparks "It's a nerdy thing I like to do" Child of the Internet born 1983 Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Ubuntu wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/tomsparks?

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University of Delaware EE department machine history

by legalize＠xmission.com

Some nice pics here with a little narrative: < http://www.eecis.udel.edu/tour-history.php> -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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PDP-9 Restoration at the RICM

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

The PDP-9 will now execute the built-in diagnostic described section 3.7.7.3 of the maintenance manual. This diag copies the contents of the AR register go through the ADR to increment the value, then to the MB register and then back to the AC, AR, and PC registers. This means that much of the I/O bus logic, the CP timing, the registers, the ADR, and the Control Memory is working. Now we need to fix the core memory controller and start debugging the rest of the processor and I/O. -- Michael Thompson

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CD-ROM drive "is offline. Mount verification in progress."

by spectre＠floodgap.com

Okay, VAX heads. I got an external SCSI cable for my VAXstation 3100 M76 and connected it to my old Apple SCSI CD-ROM that boots pretty much anything in my collection (Apple, SGI, you name it). At the chevron prompt, >>> b/r5:10000000 dkb500: -DKB500 [...] OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version X7G7 Major version id = 1 Minor version id = 0 [...] PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MM-YYYY HH:MM): 13-JAN-2013 16:14 [...] %SYSTEM-I-MOUNTVER, DKB500: is offline. Mount verification in progress. It just sits there. So I tried it without the /r5 bit: >>> b dkb500: -DKB500 [...] OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version X7G7 Major version id = 1 Minor version id = 0 [...] PLEASE ENTER DATE AND TIME (DD-MM-YYYY HH:MM): 13-JAN-2013 16:20 Configuring devices . . . Available device: DKB500: device type SONY CD-ROM CDU-8 Available device: DKA0: device type RZ26 %BACKUP-I-IDENT, Stand-alone BACKUP V7.2; the date is 13-JAN-2013 16:21:06.64 $ So far so good. $ BACKUP/IMAGE/VERIFY DKB500:VMS073.B/SAVE_SET DKA0: %SYSTEM-I-MOUNTVER, SABKUP$DKB500: is offline. Mount verification in progress. And sits there again. What am I doing wrong? (Don't say use another CD-ROM drive; this one works perfectly with every other computer I've used it with. And why would it boot from it but not install from it?) -- ------------------------------------ personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser at floodgap.com -- Twenty-four hours in a day, twenty-four cans in a Pepsi cube. Coincidence? -

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Anyone want to buy a Hal 9000?

by christian_liendo＠yahoo.com

Looks like thinkgeek made replicas http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f29d/#tabs

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N8VEM PCBs remaining

by LYNCHAJ＠YAHOO.COM

Hi There are 11 S-100 LAVA PCBs and 8 XT-IDE V2 PCBs remaining in case anyone is looking for them. Please contact me at LYNCHAJ at YAHOO.COM for more information. Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch

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TRS-80 CoCo 1 video on YouTube

by terry＠webweavers.co.nz

For those who might be interested... Another one of my rest-home residents hits YouTube. The TRS-80 Color Computer. http://youtu.be/2Lqa4fHlw6M Terry Stewart (Tez)

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University of Delaware EE department machine history

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

> Subject: University of Delaware EE department machine history > Message-ID: <E1Ttikp-0007nv-Pv at shell.xmission.com> > > Some nice pics here with a little narrative: > < http://www.eecis.udel.edu/tour-history.php> > This is when I went to the U of D...I remember those Zenith terminals were in most labs. I checked years later, "..any old Dec stuff in storage someplace?" all of this stuff is long gone except for one Dec Line printer II in the kitchenette of the Comp Sci annex building on West Main St. I did get a few little DEC things, here's one: http://vintagecomputer.net/UofDelaware/hyperdiagnostic/ I have a few ethernet cards from the pictured systems with the hard-coded Ethernet addresses. Bill

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creating old school 3D graphics

by tom_a_sparks＠yahoo.com.au

----- Original Message ----- > The books he cited in his list are all books describing how to write > your own engine, not using someone else's, so I gather that he's > thinking of doing things from scratch and not using anyone else's > code. I'm not think of doing it scratch, the books i cited are ones witch I read in the 90's I only have Andr? LaMothe's Black Art of 3D Game Programming (on CD with source code) and Waite Group Press's "Virtual Reality Creations." (no source code) on hand the others i borrowed from a library I've talked to the webgl community about this, and their reply was it could be done, without a reference i am looking for object viewer programs that display models at 640x480 > > -- > "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book > <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> > ? ? The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> > ? ? ? ? The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> > ? Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com> > PS: I was hopping you would join this thread --- tom_a_sparks "It's a nerdy thing I like to do" Child of the Internet born 1983 Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Ubuntu wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/tomsparks

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Update to PDP-8 Spacewar to resolve VC8/E issues

by lbickley＠bickleywest.com

I had often run D.E. WREGE's version of Spacewar! on my PDP-12. But when I tried to run it on my PDP-8/E with a VC8/E and DEC VT01 (Tek 611), I would get flashing artifacts on the screen in addition to the normal display. I initially thought I had a hardware problem - but I could only get my VC8/E and VT01 combination to fail while running DEC's VC8/E diagnostics by setting the timing switch on the VC8/E incorrectly. When I initially looked over the VC8/E code in SPCWAR, it looked O.K. and I thought the problem was likely in the clock or interrupt code. After reviewing it extensively and not finding an issue, I tried multiple hardware clocks (EP, EC) and various VC8/E settings without success. Finally, I revisited the VC8/E code in SPCWAR - and the problem turned out to be a subtle bug in the VC8/E code. According to DEC's VC8/E writeup in the LAB 8/E manual, a "wait for done" should be given AFTER the last LOAD command (X or Y) is given and BEFORE the intensify command. In other words the code should be: TAD X /Get X coordinate DILX /Send to VC8/E TAD Y /Get Y coordinate DILY /Send to VC8/E DISD /Skip on done JMP .-1 /Wait until done DIXY /Display (Intensify) XY point ... The original SPCWAR code it was: Get X DILX /Send to VC8/E Get Y DILY /Send to VC8/E DIXY /Display (Intensify) XY point DISD /Skip on done JMP .-1 /Wait until done Because of the above coding error, the VC8/E analog output would not "settle" the correct amount of time (which for a VT01 is about 80 microseconds) because a DIXY command was given immediately after the DILY. This error created artifacts on the screen because the intensify command was in effect while the VT01 was still in the process of moving it's "beam" to the correct location. BTW: Slower displays, such as the VT01/Tek611/Tek613, do NOT need a clock to slow down Spacewar to an appropriate speed. If you would like a copy of the corrected SPCWAR.PA or a listing (SPCWAR.LS), you can get them via anonymous FTP to bickleywest.com or via your browser at ftp://bickleywest.com/pdp8_spcwar/ While I was at it, I also added an assembly option to start SPCWAR in Spaceship mode (per the original Spacewar!) as opposed to UFO mode. Cheers, Lyle -- Bickley Consulting West Inc. http://bickleywest.com "Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"

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S-100 LAVA PCBs have arrived!

by LYNCHAJ＠YAHOO.COM

Hi! There are about 13 S-100 LAVA PCBs remaining. http://s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/Lava-10%20Board/LAVA-10%20Board .htm If you would like one or more please contact me. They are $20 each plus $3 shipping in the US and $6 elsewhere. Please send a PayPal to LYNCHAJ at YAHOO.COM and I will send your board right away! Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch

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OS/8 RK05 Disk Copy

by billdeg＠degnanco.com

Quick question There are three executables that I know of to copy RK05 disks in OS/8 on a PDP 8/e. RXCOPY RKCOPY RKUTIL Using RKCOPY I was able to generate exact copies of the 0 partition only. Any tips for how to get both partitions to another disk? What's the best utility. I hate to experiment on someone else's disks too much, doing the copy for a fellow MARCH club member. RKA0 --> RKB0 RKA1 --> RKB1 Thanks Bill

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Lotus Improv

by BHuntsman＠mail2.cu-portland.edu

Anyone remember Lotus Improv? I understand that a version 3.0 was finished, though unreleased, and was a 32-bit application (unlike the final 2.1, which is 16-bit). Anyone know if Improv 3.0 survived? Thanks! -Ben

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creating old school 3D graphics

by tom_a_sparks＠yahoo.com.au

----- Original Message ----- > Tom Sparks <tom_a_sparks at yahoo.com.au> wrote: >> >> I've been wanting to create the old school 3D graphics feel that is > seen in these books and games (see bellow) >> >> I am think of using wings3D[1] for the modelling >> what render can create this style? >> > Well, you have a couple of techniques listed there, but it's old skool > vector > graphics which could be done using extremely simple models with large flat > polygons in your modeler. Then render it with a technique called Cell Shading > which a lot of render engines support, simply pick one. > I would like to see cell shading do an image like this http://www.supernintendoclassics.com/wp-content/uploads/StarFoxNoUpres.png --- tom_a_sparks "It's a nerdy thing I like to do" Child of the Internet born 1983 Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Ubuntu wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/tomsparks

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Calendar

by c.murray.mccullough＠gmail.com

Has anyone seen the Nerd Calendar put out by "classic-computer fan Jan Kaufmann"? According to reviews it's rather 'racy'...

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server migration beginning

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Yes, I'm running far far behind schedule with our new datacenter buildout. I'm finally to a point where I can start migrating classiccmp-related stuff. I'll be migrating the classiccmp-related websites that we host first (but not the main classiccmp.org site and subdirectories therein). That will start tonight probably. Anyone who has classiccmp-related websites hosted on classiccmp.org server, please do not make any changes to content over the next few days - that would make it easier on me. Also, while we provide DNS for most of the domains on that server, there are a few there that are using some other dns servers. If that is the case, please make an effort to respond quickly with regards to changes in A records. Several people contacted me a month or two ago about hosting additional classiccmp-related sites. I have those emails in a separate mailbox and will be getting back to each of you after the final classiccmp migration is done. After the websites are moved, but before I get ready to migrate the mailman/list setup, I'll post another update at that point so you're aware of the impending migration. Best, Jay

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creating old school 3D graphics

by tom_a_sparks＠yahoo.com.au

I've been wanting to create the old school 3D graphics feel that is seen in these books and games (see bellow) I am think of using wings3D[1] for the modelling what render can create this style? Andr? LaMothe's Black Art of 3D Game Programming Waite Group Press's "Virtual Reality Creations." ? Christopher Lampton's Flights of Fantasy Snes' Star fox Atari's S.T.U.N. Runner Sega's Star Wars Arcade Infogrames's Alone in the dark 1 Dynamix's Red Baron [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wings_3D --- tom_a_sparks "It's a nerdy thing I like to do" Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Ubuntu wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/tomsparks 3 x (x)Ubuntu 10.04, Amiga A1200 WB 3.1, UAE AF 2006 Premium Edition, AF 2012 Plus Edition, Sam440 AOS 4.1.2,? Raspberry Pi model B, Microbee?Premium Plus+, Roland DXY-1300 pen plotter, Cutok DC330 cutter/pen plotter Wanted: GEOS system (C64/C128), Atari ST, Apple Macintosh (6502/68k/PPC only)

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LCD display from the 60s

by francois.dion＠gmail.com

Invented by mr Granjean. Well, ok, maybe not LCD, perhaps LAD? http://raspberry-python.blogspot.com/2013/01/pi-sketch.html I had to do something while I'm waiting on my P112 kit :) Francois -- www.pyptug.org - raspberry-python.blogspot.com

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Early CD-ROMs was: NASA computers circa 1969

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On 01/04/2013 03:46 PM, Bill Sudbrink wrote: > Yes. That was the test platform for an early CD-ROM company > I worked for. We also had a Meridian Data CD-Publisher. > It wrote 9-track tapes that we sent to PDO Holland. They > would send us back some count of CDs along with the glass > master. That was what? 1983 or maybe 1984. I had one of > those glass masters in my office for a while but I've lost > it somewhere along the way. You didn't work for a flaming asshole of epic proportions who went by the name of "Murf", did you? -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA

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Looking for: IBM 5110/5120 I/O bus terminator

by derschjo＠gmail.com

Subject line says it all -- and I know this is a long shot. Anyone have one going spare? Finally got my 5120 working (after scrounging a keyboard, display, and an ROS board from a parts machine*) and of course I had no idea that a terminator was required in order for the internal drives to function. Iimagine these are hard to find, but I haveto ask... Thanks as always, Josh (*stillneed a Command/Language ROS board since it turns out my 5120 had not one but two bad ROS boards, but I've borrowed it from my 5110 for the time being. I'm assuming that it's pretty much impossible to repair these things...)

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Daemonic Quake players [was RE: FS. Working PDP 11/83 deskside case (UK)]

by RichA＠vulcan.com

From: geneb Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 2:59 PM > On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, John Many Jars wrote: >> On 9 January 2013 19:07, Richard <legalize at xmission.com> wrote: >>> PDP-11 can't DOOM. PC wins. >> My four year old daughter (at the time): >> "I want to make more BLOOD!" > One of the most efficient killing machines I've ever seen in Quake was the > daughter of our tech support lead (way back in my sysadmin days). The > nerd rage that would flow on the net when someone discovered they'd been > repeatedly and brutally hammered by an 11 year old wisp of a girl wearing > pony tails and a frilly pink dress was *epic* > I nearly fell out of my chair in a fit of laughter the time I heard her > mutter, "Quit running! You'll only die tired!" ROTFLMAO. That's going to keep me snickering for a long time. That line could come from one of the better SF stories I've read, say Walter Jon Williams or John Scalzi. Thank you. Rich Alderson Vintage Computing Sr. Systems Engineer Vulcan, Inc. 505 5th Avenue S, Suite 900 Seattle, WA 98104 mailto:RichA at vulcan.com mailto:RichA at LivingComputerMuseum.org http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org/

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Commodore SX-64 new picture tubes for sale 25$ + shipping

by rampaginggreenhulk＠yahoo.com

I probably have 8 left. I dropped one. Man that shadow mask was all warped to heck. Weird forces are in play when there's an implosion.

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looking for supercomputers, Ardent, Stardent, Titan or Portable Graphics Mainframe

by michael.99.thompson＠gmail.com

> From: Richard <legalize at xmission.com> > Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 11:01:44 -0700 > Subject: Re: looking for supercomputers, Ardent, Stardent, Titan or Portable Graphics Mainframe > > In article <BLU002-W211CABDFBFAD39F8F9562C7BA240 at phx.gbl>, > Randy Dawson <rdawson16 at hotmail.com> writes: > >> Any of these lying around? I ask every year or so... > > I have had ebay searches running for 10+ years and have never turned > up anything. I think these things are extremely scarce to > non-existent at this point. I don't recall hearing of any in the > hands of collectors anywhere, but of course, as soon as I say this, > someone will pop up and say "I have 3". :-) The RICM has one... https://sites.google.com/a/ricomputermuseum.org/home/Home/equipment/ardent-… -- Michael Thompson

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Major progress on S2I project

by LYNCHAJ＠YAHOO.COM

Hi! The N8VEM SCSI to IDE/SD project has been renamed the S2I project. There has been large progress of late and things are really shaping up. I have distributed 3 of the 4 remaining prototype PCBs and have accumulated a short list of hardware changes for the next PCB revision. http://n8vem-sbc.pbworks.com/w/page/62549548/S2I%20Status Thanks and have a nice day! Andrew Lynch

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TRS-80 Model II Fixed Disk Controller Support

by ball.of.john＠gmail.com

>Some of the controllers also provided power on the control? Cable to power >on secondary enclosures. Technical bulletins state that yes the cabling for a second drive is modified to accomidate for the system to power on the external drives by means of a relay. If you didn't get the memo and you attached a second drive you would be greeted by a resistor on the drive burning out. :)

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the Internet has turned 30 years old

by tom_a_sparks＠yahoo.com.au

" 30 years ago, at flip of a switch, the internet as we know it WAS BORN How TCP/IP nearly fell at the first hurdle By Gavin Clarke ? Get more from this author Posted in Networks, 3rd January 2013 08:59?GMT Thirty years ago this week the modern internet became operational as the US military flipped the switch on TCP/IP, but the move to the protocol stack was nearly killed at birth. The deadline was 1 January, 1983: after this, any of the Advanced Research Projects Agency Network's (ARPANET) 400 hosts that were still clinging to the existing, host-to-host Network Control Protocol (NCP) were to be cut off. The move to packet switching with TCP/IP was simultaneous and co-ordinated with the community in the years before 1983. More than 15 government and university institutions from NASA AMES to Harvard University used NCP on ARPANET. With so many users, though, there was plenty of disagreement. The deadline was ultimately set because everybody using ARPANET was convinced of the need for wholesale change. TCP/IP was the co-creation of Vint Cerf and Robert Kahn, who published their paper, A Protocol for Packet Network Interconnection in 1974. ARPANET was the wide-area network sponsored by the US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) that went live in 1969, while Cerf had been an ARPANET scientist at Stanford University. The military had become interested in a common protocol as different networks and systems using different protocols began to hook up to ARPANET and found they couldn?t easily talk to each other, Cerf, who today is vice-president and "chief internet evangelist" at Google, announced the 30th anniversary of the TCP/IP switchover in an official Google blog post titled "Marking the birth of the modern-day Internet". The 1983 deadline?s passing was anticlimactic, Cerf recalls, considering how important TCP/IP became as an enabler for the internet. Cerf writes: When the day came, it?s fair to say the main emotion was relief, especially amongst those system administrators racing against the clock. There were no grand celebrations?I can?t even find a photograph. The only visible mementos were the ?I survived the TCP/IP switchover? pins proudly worn by those who went through the ordeal! >Yet, with hindsight, it?s obvious it was a momentous occasion. On that day, the operational Internet was born. TCP/IP went on to be embraced as an international standard, and now underpins the entire Internet. It was a significant moment, and without TCP/IP we wouldn?t have the internet as we know it. But that wasn?t the end of the story, and three years later TCP/IP was in trouble as it suffered from severe congestion to the point of collapse. TCP/IP had been adopted by the US military in 1980 following successful tests across three separate networks, and when it went live ARPANET was managing 400 nodes. After the January 1983 switchover, though, so many computer users were starting to connect to ARPANET - and across ARPANET to other networks - that traffic had started to hit bottlenecks. By 1986 there were 28,000 nodes chattering across ARPANET, causing congestion with speeds dropping from 32Kbps to 40bps across relatively small distances. It fell to TCP/IP contributor Van Jacobson, who?d spotted the slowdown between his lab in Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and the University of California at Berkeley ? just 400 yards and two IMP hops apart ? to save TCP/IP and the operational internet. Jacobson devised a congestion-avoidance algorithm to lower a computer's network data transfer speed and settle on a stable but slower connection rather than blindly flooding the network with packets. The algorithm allowed TCP/IP systems to process lots of requests in a more conservative fashion. The fix was first applied as a client-side patch to PCs by sysadmins and then incorporated into the TCP/IP stack. Jacobson went on to author the Congestion Avoidance and Control (SIGCOMM 88) paper (here) while the internet marched on to about one billion nodes. And even this is not the end of the story. Years later, in an interview with The Reg, Jacobson reckoned TCP/IP faces another crisis - and, again, it's scalability. This time, the problem is millions of users surfing towards the same web destinations for the same content, such as a piece of news or video footage on YouTube. Jacobson, a Xerox PARC research fellow and former Cisco chief scientist, told us in 2010 about his work on Content-Centric Networking, a network architecture to cache content locally to avoid everybody hitting exactly the same servers simultaneously. You can read more here. ? " - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/03/operational_internet_anniversary/ i've been meaning to post this PS: I was born in 1983 :cry: --- tom_a_sparks "It's a nerdy thing I like to do" Please use ISO approved file formats excluding Office Open XML - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Ubuntu wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/tomsparks 3 x (x)Ubuntu 10.04, Amiga A1200 WB 3.1, UAE AF 2006 Premium Edition, AF 2012 Plus Edition, Sam440 AOS 4.1.2,? Raspberry Pi model B, Microbee?Premium Plus+, Roland DXY-1300 pen plotter, Cutok DC330 cutter/pen plotter Wanted: GEOS system (C64/C128), Atari ST, Apple Macintosh (6502/68k/PPC only)?

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HP 3000 microcode

by jdbryan＠acm.org

Does anyone have a copy of the "HP 3000 Series III Microprogram Listing Manual" (part number 30000-90136)? Bitsavers has the Series II microcode manual (30000-90023), and while that is helpful, it's not authoritative for the Series III. Thanks. -- Dave

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Need help with a 11/23+ and a M8061 RL02 card.

by g-wright＠att.net

The system has M8189 cpu M8067 memory 256k M8029 RX02 M8061 RL02 M8639 HD controller Everything works except the M8061. Jumpers are set to Factory default. I did add the Q22 jumper just in case. There is always a chance its a bad controller card. The drive will come on line but that's about it. If I try to boot from it. i get an error, 'no controller' . If its running under RT11, booted off the RX02 , I get 'cant read directory ' Any words of wisdom out there Thanks, Jerry

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TerminalsWiki: University terminal rooms

by legalize＠xmission.com

I imagine that UDel wasn't the only university to have a public terminal room. I created this page for UDel terminal history: <http://terminals.classiccmp.org/wiki/index.php/User:Legalize/UDelTerminals> If anyone else is interested in capturing the history of other terminal rooms at other sites (commercial, government, or educational), that would be a great addition to the wiki. Right now this is an article in my user space, but it could easily be moved to a more public space if others contribute similar articles. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com>

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TRS-80 Model II Fixed Disk Controller Support

by ball.of.john＠gmail.com

>When this happens with a floppy drive, it is often due to the data cable having >being put on upside down, causing all the active signals to be grounded and >resulting in the drive being selected all the time. Perhaps a similar cabling >issue could cause this with an ST-225? I had the same idea until I switched the drive ID from 0 to 1. The BUSY light is now off and remains off on the drive until I tell DISKUTIL that the drive I want to work with is on channel 1 and not channel 0, at which point it probes for the drive (if it finds nothing it says the drive is not ready and asks to specify another drive), the BUSY light comes on and we get the same issue as before where it knows there's a drive but it can't format and says the disk is bad. The light WILL go out if the system reset is toggled which is probably because the controller is reset in the process. The cabling is keyed on the edge connector side and pin 1 is noted on both the ribbon cable and the header on the disk controller so there's no probable chance the wiring is wrong. I don't see why it could be trying to find an existing error map AFTER I specify what the factory had printed on it. It would make more sense to search for that BEFORE it prompted me to specify it. (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/CRW_778 9.jpg) It could be ignoring it like you said but there's no way to try with a differently formatted disk at this time. Unsure if WRITE PROTECT is stuck. Seagate's own papers don't even mention a write protect jumper so I assume it simply does not exist for the drive. (ftp://ftp.seagate.com/techsuppt/mfm/st225.txt) I also don't see WRITE PROTECT listed as a pin on the ST506/412 interface cabling.

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TRS-80 Model II Fixed Disk Controller Support

by ball.of.john＠gmail.com

According to this website (http://nemesis.lonestar.org/computers/tandy/hardware/storage/mfm.html) I finally managed to get hold of a Type 4 hard disk controller for the TRS-80 Model II/16/6000 family of computers (which looks like this: http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/CRW_7791 .jpg) Sourcing the external drive enclosures for Tandy systems is near impossible unless you have a lot of spare money handy so I instead did some research and mounted a Seagate ST-225 INSIDE the computer on a custom made mounting bracket over the PSU. (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/100_276 9.jpg) The drive is a known good drive and formats and boots under MS-DOS. In order to run it under Xenix 1.03 I need to format it again using DISKUTIL. The controller can see the drive and seems to know it's ready but the problem is that the utility instantly fails the entire disk the moment you start the format. (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/Computer%20related/CRW_779 0.jpg) Tried with other ST-412 interface drives (full height, half height and 3.5") and they all do the exact same thing. Lonestar.org states that the '225 SHOULD be compatible with my controller. I looked up any documentation I could find and I see nothing about any sort of configuration the controller that needs to be set to support the drive. It should just plug in and work. The only thing I seem to find odd is the BUSY light on the drive is stuck on when the controller is attached which seems suspicious. Anyone here got a slue how I should be tacking this problem?

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Recovering DC42 images?

by IanK＠vulcan.com

Hi all, This is one I've been working on for a bit without success, and I'm hoping the community has some ideas to offer. I'm attempting to recover the Lisa Xenix images on BitSavers so I can boot up a Lisa for an exhibit. I've managed to get the images onto a Mac IIci over the network (rather than through the dance of PC to Mac file formats), but DiskCopy 4.2 doesn't recognize them. I used the boot.dc42 image on LisaEm and got it to boot as far as it will (Ray acknowledges in the documents that Xenix doesn't work on LisaEm yet), but of course the emulation is likely written to the image: still, it suggests the images are likely OK. I found information that suggested it was necessary to use an older Mac to generate the correct disk format: I've formatted my 400K disks on a Mac Plus under System 6.0.3, and run DC on that Mac, too. Still no joy. Any suggestions? Thanks -- Ian

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any stash of MODEM info? Bitsavers not much....

by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com

any stash of MODEM info? Bitsavers not much.... unless I am looking in wrong places. We have some we have accumulated set aside here waiting for the day of a fast scanner but want to thin the stack if it has already been done elsewhere. cc me offlist also... I do not always read my digest file. thanks Ed Sharpe _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)

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Difference between RSX-11M and M+ (was: What PDP11 OS in 20MB Disk Space)

by bqt＠update.uu.se

On 2013-01-01 19:00, Dave McGuire<mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: > > On 12/31/2012 04:39 PM, Rob Jarratt wrote: >>> >> Straight 11M (non-plus) does. (fits in 10 actually) Early RSTS/E, like >> >v8, >>> >>should, but not 10 and likely not 9. RT11 does. >> > >> >BitSavers looks like it has 11M 4.0 in a 19MB virtual tape, here: >> >http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/bits/DEC/pdp11/magtapes/rsx11m/ >> >Assuming that is the right one to go for? >> > >> >I know next to nothing about RSX, what is the difference between plus and >> >non-plus? > Oh jeeze, lots of stuff...I'm quite drunk at the moment, but I seem to > recall..named directories being a biggie. Johnny (if he's montoring) > can expound. Since my name was mentioned... There are plenty of differences. Virtual terminals for one. Which also means that only M+ have batch queues. Named directories. Logical names. Variable send/receive. Secondary pool. Split I/D space support. Supervisor mode libraries. Accounting. Online reconfiguration. Mixed massbuses (probably not that big win today, when people run simulators anyway). Memory is managed slightly differently. I think that only M+ have disk shadowing and disk caching (also perhaps less used in emulated systems). Lots of tasks end up having more memory available in M+, which means they can handle more data, or have more capabilities. This also affects things like SYSGEN, which in M+ is rather more user friendly. There are probably more things, if I think some more. But this gives a fair idea. M+ is basically more. > I ran 11M (non-plus) on an 11/34 for many years. Rock solid, fast, > very nice OS. Agree. 11M is fine. It's just that if you can run M+, I'd recommend it. But it do require much more of the hardware. It takes way more memory, and it requires certain features in the CPU, that 11M do not. 11M can be run on basically any PDP-11, as long as you have atleast about 56K of memory (Better with more, of course.) Johnny

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Wait! There's more including MS-DOS 1.25!!!! was Sanyo MBC-550 (Yuck!) software available

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

I'm still digging. I found more 550 stuff. I think this is everything that came with the 550. Here's a chance for you 550 owner's to get the whole set at one shot! Original DS-DOS box and invoice. Original Sanyo Easywriter ver 1.3 disk Original Sanyo disk box with 550 dos ver 2.11 and BASIC 1.25, two original Sanyo disk for InfoStar (set B disk 2 and 3 of 4; disks 1 and 4 are below), original Sanyo disk for DOS 1.25 and BASIC ver 1.1 Original Sanyo disk box with all three original disk of set A, WordStar and CalcStar and a backup copy of DS-DOS. Two card board dummy disks used to protect the floppy drives duing shipment. Joe > >A few weeks ago we were talking about the Sanyo 550 series and someone mentioned one of the alternates operating systems that supported 80 track drives in the 550. I said that was DS-DOS by Michtron. > > Today I found an old Sanyo disk package with four disks for the 550. One of them is DS DOS 2.11, one is InfoStar, one is MailMerge/SpellStar and the other is a disk of misc utilities. The first three are original disks. In additon, the InfoStar, MailMerge/SpellStar are Sanyo labeled disks that came with the 550. If anyone wants them, trade me something I can use and they're all your's. > > Joe

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Sun 2/120 Front panel

by earl＠baugh.org

Howdy, I'm looking for a source for a front bezel / plate / panel for a Sun 2/120. Anyone happen to know where I might be able to obtain one? (I'd also be interested in the correct Mouse / Keyboard that goes with the Sun 2 series) I'm slowly working on restoring it, and the panel is the major missing piece. (I just recently found a replacement power supply, so I hope to be able to get it to boot shortly...) Thanks. Earl

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SCSI over UTP, i.e. extender

by marcogb＠xs4all.nl

Purely out of curiosity, is anyone aware of the possible existence of LVD/SE SCSI (e.g. HD68) over UTP (RJ45) extenders? I'm aware that one normally goes for FC, or a SCSI<=>FC bridge, but those tend to be rather pricey. - MG

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ValueWord & ValueNotes

by marcogb＠xs4all.nl

This was software me my parents used in the 1980s on our family computer. Does anyone know how and where to obtain this, for old time's sake? Thanks in advance. - MG

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WTT/WTB: SGI IP59 quad-processor CPU board

by marcogb＠xs4all.nl

Does anyone have this, willing to sell or --- more ideally, for me --- willing to trade a SGI IP59 quad-processor CPU/node- board? (P/N: 030-1989-003) I have several (non-SGI) systems of interest, Alphas (PWS 500au's and DS10s), but also Sun SPARCs (e.g. Ultra 10) and also at least one HP Integrity rx2620 "Montecito" (largely maxed out, with 24 Gbytes RAM) to trade. All of the above are max'ed out, in terms of 'specs' & configurations, plus there are many (PCI, PCI-X, AGP, etc.) options available. I also have an IP53 dual-processor CPU/node-board, as a possible 'replacement' (in case an IP59 board would have to be removed from a working system) and may even have a quad-processor one (i.e. the one I currently have installed). I'd also like to emphasize, to avoid confusion, that these are things I have to offer. Not so much things I'd like (or deem sensible) to trade 1:1. The reason I'm looking for this part, as well as other parts, is because I'm trying to get as much out of my system as possible, as I'm working on my portfolio as a graphic designer. Either way, please don't hesitate to contact me. I'm open to ideas and offers. Thanks in advance. - MG

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WTT/WTB: SGI DMediaPro DM2/DM3 LVDS cables

by marcogb＠xs4all.nl

Does anyone have a complete set of SGI DMediaPro DM2/DM3 LVDS cables, willing to trade/sell? (See my other WTT/WTB thread, for the IP59 board, for possible items of interest to trade.) I'm specifically looking for both a white (P/N: 018-0985-001) and black (P/N: 018-0946-001) LVDS cable, to connect a DM3 to a VBOB. Thanks in advance. - MG

13 years, 7 months

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WTT/WTB: SGI Indigo² IMPACT (4 Mbyte) TRAM board

by marcogb＠xs4all.nl

Does anyone have one of these TRAM (Texture Memory, 4 Mbytes ideally, P/N: 030-0676-003) boards, for an SGI Indigo? IMPACT (e.g. for HighIMPACT) graphics card to trade/sell? (See my previous threads for possible items to trade.) Thanks in advance. - MG

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FS: 2× Compaq DS10

by marcogb＠xs4all.nl

Two Compaq AlphaServer DS10 systems, each with a 466 MHz EV6 processor and 2 Gbytes RAM (I can also reduce it to, say, 256 Mbytes). There are various options additionally, including SCSI RAID (e.g. Smart Array 5300 or even Smart Array 6400), GbE (DEGXA, original and/or modified), stock ELSA GLoria Synergy, various Radeon 7500 (also All-In-Wonder), NEC USB, audio cards and more. One of the two DS10s 'as-is', as it may have a faulty CD-ROM drive (it's also missing its 'badge/name plate' with "ALPHASERVER DS10" on it, below the "Compaq" logo, in case you should care). The skins are all intact, in good/excellent shape and included. I have various options to offer. In any event, please contact me for more information, offers or potential trades (I'm in particular looking for SGI parts). I can also show pictures and arrange a 'test drive' or 'tour' via SSH or Telnet. The systems are located in the Netherlands and I'm willing to ship (internationally). - MG

13 years, 7 months

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FS: HP AlphaServer DS15

by marcogb＠xs4all.nl

Anyone interested in a barely used, mint-condition, HP AlphaServer DS15? Equipped with a 1 GHz 21264C/EV68CB, maxed out with 4 Gbytes RAM, (*original HP*, active-cooled, noise-free) ATi Radeon 7500, (rare) DS15 audio option, DEGX2 (dual-port Gigabit Ethernet) and a hot-swap front access disk cage (I may also be able to include two disks and sleds, contact me about that). A nice touch, especially for those used to the DS10, is that SCSI (KZPEA) is on-board. Besides the on-board KZPEA, I also have a KZPDC (HP/Compaq Smart Array 5300, Ultra160 SCSI RAID HBA) and/or KZPEC (HP Smart Array 6400, Ultra320 SCSI RAID HBA), as well as an HP/Neterion XFrame 10GbE NIC. Here are some pictures: - <http://marcogb.home.xs4all.nl/tmp/pictures/02.jpg> - <http://marcogb.home.xs4all.nl/tmp/pictures/03.jpg> - <http://marcogb.home.xs4all.nl/tmp/pictures/05.jpg> Feel free to e-mail me offers. - MG

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