> I found a picture of another M8186 on the internet. It has one chip on
> it, the CPU (Dual chips on a single carrier). The other 3 sockets are
> blank. Mine has 2 chips. CPU BLANK BLANK CHIP. I don't have the M818
> in front of me, but does anyone know what the extra chip is for?
>FRom the edge of the board in toward the middle its
MMU, spare, floatingpoint, data/control.
A minimal board will have data/control double as that's the F11 cpu. It
will only be a 16 bit address. The MMU is was nearly standard and gave
18/22 bit addressing. Floating point was in two forms FIS chip,
Floatingpoint Instruction Set which were microcode for floating point
instructions or the M8188 module that actually did floating point in
hardware (2901s!). Other options are the CIS or Commercial instruction
set (aka cobal instruction set) and there was writeable control store
if you wanted to write custom microcode for things like bitblting or
emulation.
The 11/23 did not have I&D space like the later J-11 cpus.
The liniage for chip-11s is LSI11/03 (kd11-f quad width), LSI-11/2 (dual
width KD-11), LSI-11/23a (KDF-11A dual width), LSI11/23b(+) (KDF-11B quad
width), Then J-11 series.
Note while the books said the 11/23a (kdf-11a) was 18 bit I have found
many will operate as 22 bit. The KDF-11b was 22 bit addressing.
Allison
On 0 xxx 1980 MAILER-DAEMON(a)nwohio.nwohio.com wrote:
> > here's the choice: My 486 or the PDP?
>
> Hey - I'll take that 486 8-)
But it would be a LOT harder to get another PDP than another 486.
> I don't think V7 would fit on a RX02 - maybe an RL02. What you probably
> want is RT-11. Single user but with Foreground/Background tasking. Or
> you could try TSX? which is a multi-user RT-11 kinda sort of 8-) I have
> heard of but not seen one of these. Email me if you decide what you want.
Hmm... There's an RX02 boot though. Maybe it could boot of seperate
root/boot disks like Linux does? Of course, I can't build kernels as I
have no source, so that goes in the can. Basically, anything multi-user
would be cool, and TCP/IP would be a nice trick. BTW, which Unix was
first to have TCP/IP?
On 0 xxx 1980 MAILER-DAEMON(a)nwohio.nwohio.com wrote:
> [Another aside - you heard from Galesburg yet? Nothing on my end 8-( Once
> we get you a case, you can just hide the 486 inside and tell *them* its a
> terminal 8-) ]
That was the idea.
Oh and the floppy drives are f0, f1 etc. I think a question mark an the
Command? prompt will give you more commands, What version of Ctos is it?
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> From: thedm <thedm(a)sunflower.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Help with Convergent Technologies
> Date: Tuesday, July 08, 1997 5:33 AM
>
> Okay, [SyS][sys] is the first hard disk, then d1, d2 d3 etc
> It was strictly an office automation machine, usually it came with
Document
> designer, Office spreadsheet and Bmail. When it boots, it has a bunch of
> dots run across the screen, seems to me at this point it tells you the
> software license. The licenses are, standalone, 5user, 10 user, 25 user
and
> 48 user. These machines had the networking built in. There are two
RS422
> ports on the side, you can put 24 machines in a daisey chain on each
side.
> There is a surplus store here with buttloads of them and no one wants
them
> because they don't know what they are. These boxes are INtel based, but
> propriatary as hell. There is a DOS emulator available or was. Unissys
> currently owns this platform as of 1986, before then it was sperry, and
> then your model convergent, allthough convergent still made alot of the
> hardware under subcontract. If you ask me more specific questions I can
> probably remember more. It's been 5 years since I even touched one.
>
> ----------
> > From: Ray Stricklin <kjaeros(a)u.washington.edu>
> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> > Subject: Re: Help with Convergent Technologies
> > Date: Monday, July 07, 1997 7:53 PM
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, thedm wrote:
> >
> > > Is this a little square box cpu with a buss on the side? and ad ons
> that
> > > lock onto the side of it? If it is I used to administer a Convergent
> > > network, it uses the BTOS/CTOS operating system and uses JCL for
batch
> > > programming. Its almost useless with out the native software and if I
> > > recall our licenses where about 10,000 for a 48 user network. They
do
> make
> > > a standalone version, but I'll be darned if i would ever know where
to
> find
> > > it.
> >
> > That'd be the one.
> >
> > It has an OS installed; with the CPU I also picked up a QIC unit, 10
meg
> > disk/floppy unit, a 'disk expansion' unit of unknown size (I'm short
one
> > power supply), and a GC-001 graphics unit, as well as boxes of QIC
tapes
> > and 360k floppies. The OS is installed along with lots of other stuff
of
> > unknown purpose on the hard disk/floppy box. It boots fine; I can play
a
> > little with it, but I really don't know what's there.
> >
> > I'm able to get file listings of [sys]<sys> which I'm assuming is the
> hard
> > disk.
> >
> > I wish there'd been an operator's manual in the lot..
> >
> > ok
> > -r
Okay, [SyS][sys] is the first hard disk, then d1, d2 d3 etc
It was strictly an office automation machine, usually it came with Document
designer, Office spreadsheet and Bmail. When it boots, it has a bunch of
dots run across the screen, seems to me at this point it tells you the
software license. The licenses are, standalone, 5user, 10 user, 25 user and
48 user. These machines had the networking built in. There are two RS422
ports on the side, you can put 24 machines in a daisey chain on each side.
There is a surplus store here with buttloads of them and no one wants them
because they don't know what they are. These boxes are INtel based, but
propriatary as hell. There is a DOS emulator available or was. Unissys
currently owns this platform as of 1986, before then it was sperry, and
then your model convergent, allthough convergent still made alot of the
hardware under subcontract. If you ask me more specific questions I can
probably remember more. It's been 5 years since I even touched one.
----------
> From: Ray Stricklin <kjaeros(a)u.washington.edu>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Help with Convergent Technologies
> Date: Monday, July 07, 1997 7:53 PM
>
> On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, thedm wrote:
>
> > Is this a little square box cpu with a buss on the side? and ad ons
that
> > lock onto the side of it? If it is I used to administer a Convergent
> > network, it uses the BTOS/CTOS operating system and uses JCL for batch
> > programming. Its almost useless with out the native software and if I
> > recall our licenses where about 10,000 for a 48 user network. They do
make
> > a standalone version, but I'll be darned if i would ever know where to
find
> > it.
>
> That'd be the one.
>
> It has an OS installed; with the CPU I also picked up a QIC unit, 10 meg
> disk/floppy unit, a 'disk expansion' unit of unknown size (I'm short one
> power supply), and a GC-001 graphics unit, as well as boxes of QIC tapes
> and 360k floppies. The OS is installed along with lots of other stuff of
> unknown purpose on the hard disk/floppy box. It boots fine; I can play a
> little with it, but I really don't know what's there.
>
> I'm able to get file listings of [sys]<sys> which I'm assuming is the
hard
> disk.
>
> I wish there'd been an operator's manual in the lot..
>
> ok
> -r
I have a LAPTOP 80286. Can I connect to INTERNET with it?
Does any Winsock exist?
Which is the best software for MAIL and WWW? (using a 286, of course)
Greetings,
Jordi Carceller
jordicr(a)eic.ictnet.es
Here is the current list I have of the Panasonic HHC buyout...
Name Qty
----------------- ---
Sam Ismail 4
Allison Parent 3
Jeff Hellige 2
Kelly Fergason 3
Gary Tucker 2
Roger Sinasohn 5
Ward Griffiths 3
Ben Coakley 1
Paul Coad 2
Jim Willing 3
Richard Cini 3
Hans Pufal 2
Doug Spence 3
John Ott 1
Bob Withers 2
Frank Peseckis 2
Roger Merchberger 3 (or up to 10! what a guy!)
ursa(a)idir.net 4
Richard Schauer 2
Brian Stuart 3
Jeff Lodoen 1
Scott Ware 3
SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com 1
James Rice 3
Benedict Chong 2
Kirk Scott 2
Kirk (dynasoar) 2
Current Total: 66
If your name isn't on here, please e-mail me with how many you want. If
your e-mail bounces, post your request publicly. If you want to add to
your count, let me know.
I will be sending the final total to Mike on Friday, so I will take
requests up until sometime Friday when I fire off an e-mail to him. At
that point I will try to cut a deal. I'm hoping for 100. Nobody will
pay more than $10 per. If we get to 100 it should go down to $9 per.
Remember...manuals, power supplies, ROM chips, custom RAM expander tray,
some carrying cases. Features thermal printer, FORTH-like language in
ROM, QWERTY keyboard.
If you don't know what the hell I'm talking about, ask
for details.
Sam
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Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass
This weekend I picked up two IBM PC Radio laptops (numbered #9075). Anyone
know anything about them? They came with no PS and the batteries are (of
course) dead. They're nifty little machines, with a built-in
~adding-machine-sized printer, a connection for an antenna (at least, that's
what it looks like) and a PCMCIA-ish slot.
Any info would be greatly appreciated, as well as leads on finding a power
supply or two. Thanks!
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Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
> X-Sender: danjo@typhoon
> I don't think V7 would fit on a RX02 - maybe an RL02. What you probabl
the miniroot would. Rl02(10mb) is more like it. Also V7 requires I&D
space so the cpu had better by 11/73 or higher. IF 11/23 then use V5 or
V6.
> want is RT-11. Single user but with Foreground/Background tasking. Or
> you could try TSX? which is a multi-user RT-11 kinda sort of 8-) I have
RSTS-11 multitasking/timesharing. Or RSX-11 real time multitasking.
Myself RT-11FB is my favorite as it's compact and can run off a rx02
and fast.
Allison