> Does anyone remember this machine :
>
> it's a video game console (like the atari VCS) but which could sit on
> a box which then converts it to a home computer.
>
> The machine ran on a 6800 and had built-in basic.
>
> It came out approx at the same time as the Atari 400/800 series
> (78-79?)
>
> I remember seeing an ad on it and the heading of the ad was
> "imagination machine".
>
>
> Ben
>
> Ahh, the "APF Imagination Machine" I believe. Somewhere I have a
> single cartridge for it.
>
> -Mp
Hi all.
A lot of things have been significantly updated over the last few weeks.
You may want to take a look.
The web site (http://weber.u.washington.edu/~bcw/ccl.html) has been
reworked somewhat.
Brett's Classic Computer Encyclopedia
(http://www.xnet.com/~danjo/classic/index.html) has grown quite a bit
but could use some images (hint, hint, guys)
Isaac's Classic Computer Rescue site
(http://www.comland.com/~idavis/classic/classic.html) is looking good.
The Links Section of the web site has nearly doubled (although I know
you guys have more that you could cough up ;)
Same with the FAQs section (once again - send me more) and the ClassicCmp
FAQ has been HTMLized for your ease of reading.
The document archive is online (although most listings are still being
held under review).
The Big List of Classic Computers now contains sections for Prototype
and Limited-Run computers and for computers which more info is needed on.
The FTP site has been indexed and divided up into sections for various
computers - not a whole lot is there, a few faqs, articles, and pictures.
Feel free to send more ;) (ftp://140.142.225.27/pub/classiccmp)
Bill
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Bill Whitson - Classic Computers ListOp
bill(a)booster.u.washinton.edu or bcw(a)u.washington.edu
http://weber.u.washington.edu/~bcw
> > The HP86 is basically an HP85 without the built-in monitor,tape drive,
> > or printer, but with GPIB as standard. The 9121 is a single-sided version of
> > the 9122 if that's any help.
>
> Ok, you've lost me on that one. What is the GPIB?
GPIB = General-Purpose Interface Bus. Aka IEEE-488, and very similar to
HPIB (= Hewlett-Packard Interface bus). HP were the company who designed it,
but it turns up on all sorts of machines.
It's an 8-bit parallel interface using a 24 pin connector. 8 pins are ground,
8 are data, 3 are handshake, and 5 are bus control/management. It was
originally designed to link up lab equipment (DVMs, counters, digital 'scopes,
etc), but HP use it as a general peripheral bus (disk drives, plotters,
printers, etc) on some of their micros. Commodore used it for much the same
purpose (although with looser timing requirements) on the PETs
> David Williams - Computer Packrat
-tony
> There are two flavors of HP 86, the 86A and the 86B.
Thanks for the info - I've only used 86B's.
> Re: the 9121: yep, single-sided Sony stiffy drives that hold about
> 300KB I think. It's been too long and I have forgotten just about
> everything except that the single-sided ones never seemed to hold
> quite enough (this on HP 150s).
Probalby 320 or 360K bytes (at least on the 150 - is the 9121 supported on the
150 - my manuals are silent on the subject...). It's 80 track single-sided,
and thus the same size as a double-sided 40 track disk.
> You know how 3.5" drives open the metal slider so they can get at the
> medium? The very earliest drives didn't, and the stiffies didn't
> spring-load the slider -- it was up to the user to slide the slider
> before insertion into and after removal from the drive.
I've also seen disks that open automatically, but stay open when ejected. You
'pinch' them to close them. They did not close automatically on ejection from
any drive.
> -Frank McConnell
-tony
> what is a PDP? choices 1,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,11/780,11/750,11/730?
Got something against the PDP12 and PDP15, then ? :-)
[Sorry, couldn't resist it!]
> Allison
-tony
Ben,
I recieved your money order in the mail, but due to my work
schedule, it's likely I won't be able to try and ship the Model 4 until at
least Tuesday. I'll let you knwo as soon as I ship. Thanks.
Jeff
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Hi,
Yesterday I recived Thomson To7-70 computer, which is totally dead.
When it's working, on display there are only horizontal color lines,
each of them has witdh of one character. Is ther anybody who can say me
whots's bad. I suppose this can be demaged processor (it's incredibly
hot after 2-3 minuters of working), but I am not sure.
Thanks,
Krzysztof Strzecha
Sam Ismail <dastar(a)crl.com> writes:
> Nope. I've got a Pivot. This was nothing like the Pivot. It was close
> to the shape of an Osbourne and it was beige. It was close to the
> dimensions of a tower case only it sits horizontally.
You are right, that is not a Pivot. Unfortunately I am not sure what
it is.
> I got mine for free.
Like I said, "bogus price". I didn't buy it. I didn't even inquire
at the counter. IBM-compatibles (and I think these were fairly so)
aren't real interesting to me even if George Morrow did let his name
get put on 'em. (Though I do have one of the Osborne 3 flavor...a
moment of weakness I guess.)
BTW, speaking of Morrow stuff, I met a guy at the Foothill swap meet
today who was selling a Micro Decision (claimed to be an MD-11 but two
floppies, no hard disk) for $30. I'm not interested -- got two of 'em
that I haven't touched for a while -- but thought someone here might
be. Has software and manuals but I did not see the big stack of
paper-bound manuals that I might expect; the seller said he got it
>from an ex-Morrow employee and it may have been assembled from excess
parts but is functional.
Other stuff found at the Foothill swap:
Sinclair ZX-80. Well, it's in pieces, but board, case top, case bottom,
wall wart...yep, looks like they're all there. $5. First one I've seen
in years so I snagged it.
A couple of S-100 bits. Some HP employees were perturbed by the
prices of quality S-100 gear and so set about designing their own, and
it looks like they got to use HP's printed-circuit production
facilities. Apparently I missed the chassis but got the junk box for
another $5. Included are a pristine blank CPU board of their design,
as well as a couple of S-100 bus terminators. S-100 bus terminators
with the HP logo, whodathunkit? Part number on the board is
7373-60003, and the board comes with helpful instructions in the
traces (no solder mask or silkscreen):
TERMINATOR
THE LAST
BOARD
I think there is a story here, and I want to know more of it than
I got today.
Convergent Tech Workslate, plus printer and serial/parallel box,
condition uncertain. $26. Pricey but if I get it cleaned up and
working it could make a nice desk toy at the office. What sort of
power input do these things want?
Xerox 820 board, socketed but ICs not plugged in. Another project
that the owner lost interest in. $2.
-Frank McConnell
I have the oportunity to aquire an IBM System 36 model 5364 with manuals
and operating disks, all in working condition. My question is, I have never
heard of this system (the 360/370, yes). What can I expect?
Secondly, from the same source, I can get a Compac Portable I XT with
harddrive and memory upgrade, ethernet 3/comm and AST 5250 emulation (some
mainframe terminal?), again all in working condition, but from what I hear,
it's portable in the term that yes, you can lug the entire setup.
Third, for anyone that is interested (you pay shipping, plus maybe a few
extra bucks - whatever you think it's worth) the following are also
available:
10M HD for an IBM 360
Monroe (possible) "bookkeeping machine"
Underwood typewriter (manual)
(unknown) manual adding machine
I'll be hearing more about this stuff on Monday.
-spc (Is getting more stuff than he knows what to do with ... )
