Here's an Apple /// for sale. I've seen them go for much cheaper.
Sam
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From: sundeck(a)ix.netcom.com(N.J.C.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.marketplace
Subject: Apple /// FS
Date: 24 Jul 1997 12:31:32 GMT
one Apple /// with Apple /// monitor and
2 nd drive , some software
$150 plus shipping
sundeck(a)ix.netcom.com or
eflea(a)atlantic.net
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Sam
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>Or otherwise stated: What to do when the cost of reviving a rescued
>computer is as much as buying one of the same model?
>
>To explain, I recently rescued a Mac+ (2.5/40) which was being thrown
>out by my employer. When I got it, it would give intermittant Sad Mac
>errors. No problem, I figure I can replace the RAM with some surplus
>PC SIMMs. This fixes the Sad Macs, but after it heats up it dies with
>an "Address Error" bomb. Some board switching points to the motherboard
>(more specifically, the ROMs) as being the fault.
Hmmm... My first thought is to fix the old board :
Since the ROMs work OK when cold, you should be able to make a good copy of
them onto disk. Then blow them into EPROMs, and modify the Mac+ to use said
EPROMs (I believe a very small mod is needed, alas, but I don't know that much
about the Mac+ hardware).
IMHO that's not piracy - it's simply using a backup copy on new media since the
original media failed.
However, a pair of EPROMs would probably cost about $15, so that's no solution
either.
In the past I _have_ spent more on repairing/restoring a machine than buying a
new one would cost. The reason is simple - I enjoy doing said repairs. A hobby
doesn't have to make financial sense.
[...]
>Thanks in advance... <<<John>>>
>
>P.S. Anybody also know of a source for a LaserWriter Plus logic board, too?
What's wrong with the old one. From the pictures I've seen of said board
(Sorry, I don't have one, only a CX-VDO (same engine, but with no logic board)
and a Laserwriter 2NT), it looks to be mostly standard components, and should
be repairable.
-tony
Hey Marvin:
I was wondering if any of your recent Atari acquisitions are for sale. I
am especially interested on a good deal on a drive and some software...
PLEASE let me know..
CORD
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On Wed, 31 Dec 1969, Marvin wrote:
> I went to the TRW Swap Meet today down in Los Angeles and managed to get
> a few things. A guy was selling a fairly complete Aquarius that
> included the cassette recorder, printer/plotter, expansion chassis, a
> 32K expansion unit, some games, and documentation. He was asking $25
> but took $20 for the lot. Also picked up an Epson PX-8 portable and an
> NEC 8201 portable (sure hope those numbers are correct as I am going
> from memory) for $25 lot. The "best" deal was a guy walking around with
> a sign that said "Free Atari". Of course, that got my attention and I
> picked the 5 boxes of stuff up. Haven't checked it all out yet, but
> there were supposed to be three Atari 400 computers, Three disk drive
> units, an 850 interface, a modem, docs, and some other stuff. Saw a guy
> offering S-100 cards (mostly memory and HD cards) at $5 each. When I
> asked why he was asking so much, he replied they weren't for sale. I
> hadn't heard of the manufacturer of those particular cards, and figured
> if schematics were available, they might be worth what he was asking.
>
> I met a friend of mine whom I hadn't seen for about a year. Turns out
> he built one of the Altair computers I have and was one of the first
> factory reps for Vector Graphic. Apparently among the many people he
> called on was a place up around Berkeley with a name like Kentucky Fried
> Computers (or something similar) and that was where Northstar Computers
> got started. Apparently, he has some of the early SCCS stuff along with
> most of the Vector Graphic docs, etc. so with any luck, I'll end up with
> that stuff too.
>
>
Message text written by INTERNET:classiccmp@u.washington.edu
>Does anyone have a Commodore Plus/4 video cable for sale or trade?<
The 8-pin cable for the Plus/4 is exactly the same as the 8-pin cable for
the (more common) Commodore 64 or 128. And, a 5-pin cable made for the 64
(the early models had a 5-pin port) will also work on a Plus/4. In fact, I
think most home computer manufacturers (Atari, TI) used 5-pin cables with
the composite, sound and ground on the same pins, so you could try one of
those if you have one sitting around. Finally, if you want to hack one
together, I can provide the pinout.
Gil Parrish
107765.1161(a)compuserve.com
> >On the other hand, I had a garage sale last weekend. Not one person =
> >interested in the piles of Apple, Commodore, Atari stuff. I mean, if you =
> >guys aren't going to garage sales to buy stuff, you're missing a lot of =
> >deals. Most of the stuff at the Goodwill has an old garage sale sticker =
> >on it.<
>
> Heck, if you're dumping stuff at garage sale prices, post the list here
> first! Probably nothing rare or particularly interesting, but you never
> know what somebody might be looking for.
>
> Gil Parrish
> 107765.1161(a)compuserve.com =
I do post lists of the stuff I'm selling on Auctionweb. Some of that stuff does
go really cheap but not all. I do plan to post a big list of the stuff I was
selling at the garage sale and the prices should be very reasonable (cheap).
You are right in that the G sale stuff isn't rare. I had 3 Apple II+, an Apple
IIc, C-64, Piles of C-64 power supplies and cables, joysticks, Atari 2600
consoles and games. Only thing is that they need to be shipped which can be
more than the price sometimes. I did manage to give away 4 dead C-64s and a
1541 to a guy who works on them.
Give me a month or so.
>> 2nd: a number of DECStation 2100 and 3100 series units. (along with
>> various peripherals and expantion boxes.
>>
>> What are they, and what do they run? (and docs?)
>
> I have one, it runs VMS 5.3 (VAXServer 3100)
Sorry; it it runs VMS it's a VAXstation, not a DECstation. The DECstations
are built on MIPS processors.
Roger Ivie
ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
> 1st: (the biggie) VAXStation 3520. 'Cube' configuration, apparently 4
> processors
Four processors would make it a 3540...
> , 64meg of ram, a TK70 and controller, one board that appears to
> be the interface between the processor bus and the three Q-bus slots in
> the chassis,
How much stuff is on the QBus adapter board? There were two versions: FTAM
supports only the TK70 controller (is you TK70 attached to QBus or to SCSI?)
and FQAM supports any random QBus module.
FTAM is a simple module containing only a few chips; FBIC (interface to the
backplane) and CQBIC (CVAX -> QBus adapter) being the only really big ones.
I believe there was also a clock generator chip, but not much else.
FQAM is chuck full o' goodness. It his a prom-based microcode machine to
run the module and lots and lots of PALs.
> and a board on the processor bus marked "I/O Module" with two
> 50 pin headers on it.
The connector which goes out the side of the backplane is SCSI. Although DEC
used the DSSI chip on this module, they only supported SCSI; the DSSI chip is
capable of doing both.
The connector which comes out the front of the backplane goes to a distribution
panel which provides:
- Four serial ports (console/printer, modem, mouse, keyboard)
- Ethernet (AUI and BNC)
- Diagnostic code display (one 7-segment LED)
Unfortunately, I don't know the pinout of the cable; I don't have a printset
for the 3520.
> There also appears to be a space for what looks like it would have been a
> three board video sub-system (which has been removed).
Three boards is correct. For extra fun, it has its own embedded MicroVAX II...
> Aside from the basic power/control cabling, and the cable to the TK-70,
> there are no other cables in the unit at present. (and no place to plug in
> a terminal!)
The terminal plugs into the distribution panel which plugs into the I/O module.
Can any expert out there help me with this? Thanks!
In comp.sys.tandy, bluesky6(a)ix.netcom.com (Benedict Chong) wrote:
%I just got a Model 4. When I turn it on, the disk drive will spin but
%there's no video.
%
%When the video brightness is increased, I can see a large rectangular
%green area where the video would be.
%
%Instead of video characters, there are lots of zigzag lines across
the
%screen, with more on the top of the screen than towards the bottom.
%The entire screen is stable and does not flicker or move around.
%
%It has been a good number of years since I last played with this kind
%of video (built a 6502/6845 terminal in the mid 80s) so I can't
%remember what problem would cause this type of symptoms.
%
%When I remove the video connector (after opening up the machine), the
%screen loses the vertical hold. I guess that would mean that the
%vertical sync and circuitry is working.
%
%Could the problem be due to the monitor circuitry or a problem with
%the Horizontal Sync generation?
%
%Would appreciate all/any pointers.
%
%Ben
%
I must've fell off the list last week when the Internet went haywire and I've just resubscribed. From the tone of this message it would seem that the HHC deal fell thru. Would someone mind bringing me up to date?
Thanks,
Bob
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From: Sam Ismail[SMTP:dastar@crl.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 1997 6:15 PM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: re: HHCs
On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Gil Parrish wrote:
> Message text written by Sam:
> >I should have mentioned that in a couple months when the remaining units
> are liberated, they will be up for grabs.<
>
> A suggestion. Why don't you start with the existing list of people who
> were willing to pay for the units, and allocate one to each. If there
> aren't enough to go around, then delete names in some random manner. If
> there are units left over, then take the list of folks who requested more
> than one and allocate them to those folks in some sort of random manner,
> and so on.
This is what I planned to do. I have retained the list. There were a
total of 53 interested persons, so hopefully there will be enough for
everyone. If there are extras then maybe we'll just hold a lottery.
