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by MicroAge97＠aol.com

hello, i have seval apple lisa's(lisa 2's). there was a model that wouldn't keep time if they were unpluged. that's when they came up with the battery idea.... dave

28 years, 5 months

On the hunt at Goodwill . . . .

by adam＠merlin.net.au

>>But as far as that sort of stuff goes, I'm with Kai. Of course, I'm on >>the west coast as well. I can find stuff like C64, Atari 800, TI-99/4a, >>etc. in thrift shops for anywhere from $.99 to $2.98. Not bad. :) I've had a good run at thrift stores myself. Other than A Commodore 64-SX for $20, I picked up a Tandy TRS-80 Model 4P for $5, a VIC-20 (with 11 carts) for $5, and my Honeywell Microsystem 6 for $20. Whoever invented thrift stores was a very clever person. Adam.

28 years, 5 months

Another Lisa 2/5 question

by healyzh＠ix.netcom.com

Hi all, Well this weekend I got the boards out and removed the battery pack. I ended up using White Vinegar to clean up the mess the batteries had made. Seems to have worked OK. Now I've got a problem. How do I go about replacing the four batteries in the pack? I've no idea what they were rated at. Do I need replace them? I noticed an On/Off switch next to them, any ideas what it's for? Zane | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | | healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | | healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Mac Programmer | +----------------------------------+---------------------------+ | For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | and the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. | | see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |

28 years, 5 months

On the hunt at Goodwill . . . .

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

I can get cables, power supplies , and other items for all the units talk about send me a e-mail at jrkeys(a)concentric.net with your list of needs. We can trade if you extra items to trade with. At 06:20 PM 9/22/97 -0800, you wrote: >>But as far as that sort of stuff goes, I'm with Kai. Of course, I'm on >>the west coast as well. I can find stuff like C64, Atari 800, TI-99/4a, >>etc. in thrift shops for anywhere from $.99 to $2.98. > >I guess I'm in the wrong part of the West Coast! In the Portland area I've >only gotten lucky enough to find stuff that cheep once or twice. Plus it >seems like most stuff is either a C64, a 1541 drive, or a TI-99/4a, and >they are always bare. You can't find stuff like power supplies, cables, or >whatever else it takes to make them function without a LOT of looking. The >average price at GW in this area for any item of this class is about $10! >I think my best find ever around here was a TI-99/4a with PS, modulator, >cassette cable, and 3 carts (which included extended BASIC) for $4. >Needless to say this wasn't at GW it was another local Thrift Store which >happens to be litterly next door to GW. > > Zane > > >| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator | >| healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast | >| healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Mac Programmer | >+----------------------------------+---------------------------+ >| For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | >| and the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. | >| see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ | > > > >

28 years, 5 months

[Fwd: Free Computer Books & Stuff!]

by gmast＠polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu

I sent this message out a while ago but the person responding never came through with the postage. Free to the first response. One requirement though: I must receive the postage within one week or I'll post it again or drop them off at the Goodwill. This is the second time this happened. I have the hardest time giving stuff away!

28 years, 5 months

Back again kinda

by bcw＠u.washington.edu

Hi all. I've been away vacationing and intended to read the list but my laptop bit the dust 2 days into the trip (damn PC crap ;). At any rate, I'll be reading and catching up again but if there is anything pressing, please get in touch. I'll also be getting back to work on the web site stuff and the FAQs over the next couple weeks as I've been slacking lately. To those I was going to meet up with on the trip - sorry I lost all phone numbers/directions/etc with my hard drive. If anyone knows where to get a cheap hard drive for a Compaq Contura 430 please let me know ;). ------------------------------------------- Bill Whitson bcw(a)u.washington.edu (mail may come from alternate addresses) Classic Computers List Operator/Owner http://haliotis.u.washington.edu/classiccmp

28 years, 5 months

On the hunt at Goodwill . . . .

by thedm＠sunflower.com

Well if you see a working 128D or anymore 1702 monitors grab one! ---------- > From: Kai Kaltenbach <kaikal(a)MICROSOFT.com> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: RE: On the hunt at Goodwill . . . . > Date: Monday, September 22, 1997 3:44 PM > > Geez, you must not be on the west coast. Around here, VIC-20/C64/C128 > hardware is like weeds. There isn't a thrift store in the entire > Seattle area without a Commodore piece for <=$5. Can't give 'em away -- > literally. > > Kai > > > ---------- > > From: Jeff Kaneko[SMTP:Jeff.Kaneko@ifrsys.com] > > Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 1997 12:30 PM > > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > > Subject: On the hunt at Goodwill . . . . > > > > Guys: > > > > I dredged this up from comp.sys.cbm. Alot of you guys out there have > > been talking about hunting down 'Heavy Iron'. Here's one who's struck > > the Mother Lode of 'Lite Plastic'. I sure wish I knew where this > > place was . . . . > > > > > > Jeff > > > > ------------>>>> Forewarded Message Follows<<<<--------------- > >

28 years, 5 months

Shipping & IBM Parts

by jrbrady＠delphi.com

> On Sept 29, starling(a)umr.edu wrote: > are? I've got a friend offering me an IBM 3278, and I can't remember > if that's a dumb terminal or if it's something more exciting. The 3278 is a dumb terminal used for information display on IBM mainframes. It requires a 3270-type controller unit attached to an I/O channel in order to function, along with the requisite software on the host processor. These are not ASCII devices. Regards, Jason Brady jrbrady(a)delphi.com Seattle, WA

28 years, 5 months

IBM System/38 Available for Free, Is It Worth It?

by chemif＠mbox.queen.it

At 22.57 21/09/97 -0400, William wrote: >People are abandoning System/36 boxes like crazy these days. If you >search, you should be able to find a deskside system for free in little >time. > >> 2) But the main thing that keeps me away from IBM machines (and towards >> DEC/Philips/etc) is that IBM machines are often almost impossible to hack >> and repair. The chips are those strange IBM square metal cans with >> unlisted numbers. Schematics and spares are impossible to obtain. A >> binary listing of the instruction set is sometimes a pain to find. >You do have a valid point, IBM does things weird. The chips are far from >off-the-shelf. The solution is to build up spares from donor machines. For >my RS/6000s, I saved some extra motherboards (planars, as they call them). >For System/3x stuff, there seem to plenty of machines in the scrapyards >that can be picked apart. IBM tended to cram lots of stuff in a small CPU >box, situated inside the normally spacious cabinet. Pulling an entire CPU >should pose no problems. > The best thing for repair is to get donor boards. I fully agree with William's opinion. Unfortunately here in Italy IBM had a great fame, comparing to others (Digital,Honeywell, etc.) I can say that talking with many general manager about the first installation of a computer system in the company where they were working during early 70'S, everyone confirmed that was IBM the first approach. This, together with the incompatibility of the hardware of other producers, leads many company here (once sticked in the net of the IBM-spider) to have no way out rather than the same "system". So, in few years, during '70 years, too many IBM S/3X were installed in many companyes and today IBM is still present there. This big park of machines needed to have many company to be involved for programs and maintenance. I can say that those machines reached a level of diffusion here nearly to be compared to the success of the VHS system as a consumer video system. If all above said seems to help a collector to find plenty of those system, this is not true. In fact there is a market of used hardware for those units that are still requested. Why? 1)The "family" is so well known by programmers 2)There are many IBM and specially ex-IBM programmers available for those systems (=low price know-how) 3)Park of twinax peripherals already installed (=why change all?) 4)Strengthness of IBM Hardware (=if it last is very good) 5)Low price of faster used CPU (=easy upgrading/maintenance) 5)Customerized application running ONLY on them. All this keep high in price and request of used S/3x hardware. I remember one of those specialized company based in Milan to have a "STOCK-EXCHANGE-LIKE" price list of S/3x machines as advertisement in PC-WEEK last year. This sort of "market fever" keeps working IBM system far from scrapyards. CIAO RICCARDO ROMAGNOLI .

28 years, 5 months

Apple II info for CHAC

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

- Original Apple II: introduced April 1977, code name "Annie", $1300 with 4K - Apple II+: introduced June 1979, $1195 with 16K - Apple III: introduced May 1980 (ships February 1981), code name "Sara", $4340 with 128K - Apple IIe: introduced January 1983, code name "Super II", $1395 with 64K - Apple III+: introduced December 1983, $3000 with 256K - Apple IIc: introduced April 24, 1984, numerous code names, $1300 with 128K - Apple IIe enhanced: introduced March 1985 - Apple IIgs: introduced September, 1986, code name "Phoenix" - Apple IIe platinum: introduced January 1987 - Apple IIc+: introduced September 1988 Kai > ---------- > From: Kip Crosby[SMTP:engine@chac.org] > Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu > Sent: Saturday, September 20, 1997 10:25 AM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > > Hi ClassicCmp, > > Issue 4.2 of the CHAC?s journal, the ANALYTICAL ENGINE, will > commemorate > the 20th anniversary of the Apple ][ and its descendants. As it > happens, > I?m in the middle :-) of writing the lead article :-) and I?m > wondering if > you could help me with a few data points. In spite of the laudable > work > done by Liethen, Mates and Weyhrich -- all of which I've gone through > with > some care -- the rest of this stuff is still remarkably hard to find. > > What I?m looking for is: > > · Date, or at least month and year, of introduction, and location if > pertinent > · "Secret" (internal development) name ? I realize there may have been > several > · Price of typical config at introduction > · Total number produced, even if approximate (tough) > · Date, or at least month and year, of discontinuance (sometimes > tough) > > and for these models: > > Original ][ > ][plus > ][ europlus > Original //e > //e Enhanced > "Expanded" //e (1987, the one with 64Kx4 RAM) > //c > //c+ > //e Emulation Card for Mac LC > IIGS ROM 00, 01, 03, and the prototype-only 04 > IIGS Upgrade Kit for //e, especially what it cost > > I'm also in need of everything about the Black Apple II marketed by > Bell & > Howell, including not only the above, but its technical > specifications. > And, if anybody ever actually SAW a IIx and remembers what it looked > like, > please let me know. > > If there?s a model I?m missing, and I don?t think there is, please > clue me; > but I hope that what I?m asking for, and the way I?m asking for it, > will > reassure you that I?ve done some homework already. I have at least > ONE of > these data items for every model listed, except the ][ europlus, but I > don?t have ALL of them for ANY model listed. If I could complete this > table with solid information, IMHO, it would be a significant > contribution > to the literature. > > Thanks in advance for your time and attention, and I hope you can and > will > contribute. You?ll understand that I want the CHAC?s commemoration of > this > quasi-eternal computer to be as good as we can make it. > > cheers, > > __________________________________________ > Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org > http://www.chac.org/index.html > Computer History Association of California > >

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